There's no time like the present. Hello. Welcome to episode 41 of what's the buttons.
Um I'm here Reese is here let's do this shit. Ash has been on nights again so I've been
I've been I've been told to not shout um at him and in general uh so we have to keep this
a nice quiet uh lovely place. You can shout and you can moan at me but there just there won't
be none coming back from me. I haven't got the energy to fight back. That's fantastic. That's
absolutely great. That's the perfect. Get it out of your fucking system. I haven't really got anything to
whinge about if I'm honest. The weather is fucking miserable. We're both tired. Ash as you'll
understand I've been more tired than I am. The only real major positive to to come from today is that
I am potentially after this getting the what's the buttons t-shirts um so that'll be quite cool but
I have this horrible feeling that they're gonna be shit like the hoodies and I said to Steph I said
if this one isn't the if this doesn't work I give up I give up with the whole merch side of it because
it's a fucking pain in the ass. It sucks man it sucks. I don't know if anyone listening has ever
done it before but it's fucking annoying. You sound like you've got a cold. Don't give it to me. I've
got a cold. I've got a cold. I've had three hours sleep. I'm struggling on focusing on anything at
the moment but I'm gonna do my very best. Don't say I'm not committed. Right. Pokemon. Pokemon.
In classic me fashion. I'm obsessed with Destiny. I'm obsessed with Valheim and I've played Neva
basically. So we we did exactly what we did with No Man's Sky except we dropped it even quicker.
I do it with every single game I play. I have jumped in and out of Destiny this week so I won't
go I won't go too hard on Destiny but it's Clarky's fault. Why was he doing? Well back back when
back a bit of time ago when I started getting Pokemon cards. Yeah. I swung in on him one day
and was like look at my Pokemon cards look at my Nintendo Switch and he went yes bought one there
and then on Amazon ever since that Nintendo Switch has turned up he's put like 250 300 hours in Pokemon
Scarlet but bearing in mind we used to play this when we were kids like you know 14 sitting on our
windowsills of our Gameboys playing Pokemon Red. The times don't change man. I was doing the same
shit. But yeah so every every like every five years or so we end up with like a DS and we play
Pokemon or something but this this one's different. Why? Because modern technology. Why? Because now
you can play against other people in a PvP arena. Yeah boy. Oh yeah. So Clarky is the goat and I
admit it he knows I've said look you're the goat at turn-based games. He for Gwent the competitive
scene at Gwent I got right into Gwent he never played a card game before. I went round his I said
look at this he went I don't know what's going on but he ended up fast exceeding my ability
and he almost qualified for professional tournaments like he was on pro ladders. Did he never give
He never give Hearthstone a go. No. He was never interested in that. He was just in Gwent was his
first like experience and I think he just loved that and now obviously with Pokemon also being a
turn-based thing he's just he's already into the top thousand or top five thousand in the world.
Yeah. On the rank ladder. He's in. What a sweaty nerd. Yeah he's just he's just. Does he listen?
Very yeah he's just very like calculated he's just very good at. He's one step ahead. Yeah.
Like a chess player. Yeah. He knows what you're gonna do. I think he'd be good at chess yeah.
Yeah. So yeah I think uh so since he was like look you gotta get on this PvP shit I was all right
and I liked it I tried it just the casual mode but I knew that once I got into it it had sucked me in
and it's not sucked me and it sucked me dry. It's a bit nutty. I would it would hurt your head if I went into
why because it's not just a case of um just you know luck you don't know he's super effective
against him. The thing is with Pokemon games is then they don't teach you how to raid and they
don't teach you how to PvP. Any Pokemon game you just pick a Pokemon you go to the gym you go uh
fire beats grass super effective win. Yeah pretty much. But you don't you know ever since I was a
kid even now there's no like defensive moves there's no stat reducing moves you don't need.
Yeah you fuck them all off straight out. Yeah you learn a move you go does this do damage you're
like one yeah yeah does that one do damage get rid yeah yeah yeah but they're the most important moves.
Raise defense by five fuck off. Exactly yeah I'll have lightning bolt. Exactly that so obviously you have to
learn a completely different way of playing Pokemon um which you never learn through any conventional
Pokemon games in your life you just get rid of all them moves but here they're the most important
moves. Now where the fun really is is the different the different styles of Pokemon so you could have
say for example you've got a annihilate I've got an annihilate they'll be completely different
because once you catch them they'll have different like stats to them so they have different so
there's a thing called EVs which is effort values and there's a thing called IVs which is individual
values and you can see these stats now there's ways to manipulate them to get them faster to get
them bulkier to get them better special defense better special attack there's all different ways
to get them how you want them you can feed them things you can breed them to get certain moves
that you can only get if you breed them it goes deep like so deep so obviously that is where the
fun is so you build your team you go into battle you're coming up against Pokemon that you don't
know how quick they are how quick yours are because going quick is being fast is important
yeah yeah you want that first hit I think so I said to Clarky I want to be I don't like reacting
to other people's because then you're always chasing but yeah he's he's just he's like a
he's like the overlord so I've been around his uh a couple of nights this week and he's been
teaching me his ways much like a Jedi master I was I was the master uh in Gwent and then he overtook
me the apprentice overtook the master and now he is the master basically like us an Elden ring
essentially yeah I know that you never exceeded me you just let's not surpassed you quite a lot
all right I'm too tired to fight you're the best um do you ever want me to just say you're good at
saying clip that just ask me now and yeah you have that as a sound bite but um yeah I've got
pretty good I mean he's in master ball rank so when you reach master ball rank you uh you hit
the pro ladder and he's now uh he hasn't gone too hard on it because it's the end of the season
the season resets tonight he's like three thousandth in the world or something why um I was like one
win away yesterday from reaching master ball rank which is pro ladder yeah um obviously I wouldn't
have been as high up in the world as him but I would have nearly I nearly reached it but it's
one of them if you lose you go down you go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I got one win and Clark he
was there to witness it and he was proud of me and I was proud of myself but I was tired
you know but I did my best and that's all you can do so I'm all in on Pokemon grinding finding
Pokemon leveling them up nurturing them creating um PvP is always one of those aspects of gaming
where it's so vastly different to player versus environment um and I've always had a soft spot
for player versus player not your traditional like first person shooter type but PvP in different
aspects so obviously my massive one is is world of warcraft um and it's it is that
the fact that you're playing against other people who are trying to create their own style of play
I find that it's almost like you're working towards something because you're you're not
playing against a computer you're playing against someone that actually has a brain and has their
own thoughts and feelings and and and the different ways that they that they're with their play styles
um so I've always enjoyed player versus player and I think this sounds very very fun um especially
with how in-depth it sounds it does seem like you can your your team is is like sculpted with your
own hands which gives you even more purpose to want to play and and get better and I'd imagine
you can really go in deep with the fucking what Pokemons do this fucking ability and what is it
ability and what is it what what can you do to counter that what can I do to defend against that
blah dee blah dee blah you can go real fucking sweaty with it what I love about it is I I didn't
want to do it because I knew what time investment it would be as well because obviously I didn't
have I've got a lot of Pokemon none of them are battle ready for PvP they're all just for uh PvE
um and they're with um the things called EVs the effort values when you battle with that Pokemon
it will get better in a certain way in a certain way so the more you battle with a Pokemon you
you kind of you can only have a certain amount of EVs on a Pokemon so if you've used it too much
um in in the in the game not in PvP then it will have spiked in a different area so if you look at
my my EVs on some Pokemon like it would be like a hexagon you know the hexagon graph yeah it's all
over the place where they're battled in all sorts but if you look at the ones that are now
crafted to be PvP it's a very thin line speed and physical or whatever you want to build it into
but because I didn't have a team of six Mons which you use for anyway but you have six to choose from
in your team um I knew that it'd take me a long time and it's a lot of resource gathering to get
the stuff that you want and it costs a lot of money not real life money um so it's a lot of
grinding to get the gear to get stuff to level up and buy the things you need and blah blah
uh so what we did was Clarky lent me or gave me traded his starter team that he built
so I had all Clarky's team and it's cool because you can go into the Pokemon and see his original
trainer Mr. Weegee Mr. Weegee um so yeah he caught it tells you the date he caught it where he caught
it it's very cool um it's very cool so I've used his starter team but then he has a lot of these
Pokemon around his squad he swaps in and out but a lot of the Pokemon that are the same he's built
completely different so we've got multiples of the same Pokemon but they're built in different
ways they hold different items they have different uh IVs and EVs and all sorts of shit and um with
Pokemon home where you can transfer Pokemon from Pokemon Go yeah and then to games and stuff like
that uh the possibilities are endless you know these Pokemon I'm using in this game I could end
up using in the next five Pokemon games once I've transferred them to Pokemon home transferred them
to the next game and used them in that you I could have a Pokemon that I've used for 15 years in battle
yeah I caught and it will still say the same date it's just all very cool man it's something
something special about like building a bond with a Pokemon and and then having it and training it
and that's going to be bad you put um oh my god you put the time and the effort into something and you
do get a bond of it this is this is how bonds work it's it's it's a it's a love affair of of
your your your sacrifice in your time to to better yourself in in this game so yeah of course you're
gonna fucking care about it of course it's gonna mean something to you if you're not into gaming
then you won't understand it if you're not into gaming what you're listening for you weirdo
you're not into gaming go fuck yourself but the whole the whole um time equals love kind of thing
it is if you spend a lot of time on a game you grow attached to whatever it is that you're doing
and I like that especially with something like Pokemon that shit should you should feel like
that's your team that you've worked desperately hard on because in actual Pokemon that's that's
the crack that's what that's what you do um you you you catch your Pokemon and you grow you grow a
bond with them um so it's cool that they've been able to somewhat uh transfer that into into a
video game I like that it's good it's very good I'm having a lot of fun rooting for Clarky I want
to see him on the on the big stage on the tournament that'll be so sick watching him on YouTube
these little tournaments playing for the big bucks like a fortnight event he ends up with winning
like 67 million or something like that it'd just be cool to see him because he's that good he really
is I you know I was watching him um because how it works is you put your team in you want so you'll
start your team you go I want these six Pokemon and then it will search for a trainer and then
it will come up with their team sheet of their six Pokemon but you can only use four of them so you
don't know what four they're going to use they don't know what four you're going to use yeah
so it makes it a little bit more so yeah so you're looking thinking right if he pulls that out is he
going to use them too and then obviously you want to normally build around a certain game plan so
you might start with what I want to go we want to go with speed here or they might come out with
terrain manipulation to make electric moves harder you just don't know so you want to try and work
out what Pokemon they're going to start with to counter that you want to work out what their game
plan is you want to nullify it as quickly as possible but when I'm sitting there with Clarky
I'm like what what what do you think he's going to do he's he's he's looked at their team sheet he
already knows what the first two Pokemon they're going to put out he knows what the game plan is
he's like in the middle of the game he'll be like I bet he's going to use this next pull that Pokemon
out bring this one in and I was like how are you and they're doing it he reads them like books
he's this and what what I love about this is that there I wouldn't probably I wouldn't say meta
but there will be a probably a distinct line that people will follow in terms of builds and different
types of Pokemon on what works well with what and what bracket is good with what and there's always
that one black sheet where you may know exactly what every single Pokemon is going to do and what
they're good for and what they are used for and what 99% of people are doing with these Pokemon
but there'll always be that 1% where they do something completely different with a team that
you you did not even think was possible or have never seen before and you'll come across it maybe
once in your fucking playing career and you'll go what the fuck was that like what was that because
because that's all it will shit happen that's with this type of pvp where you have that maneuverability
that type of stuff is there are those creative people that will push the boundaries and and make
a build of something that wasn't intended to do that but it worked out anyway that's exactly what
he does his favorite Pokemon much like most people's is Gengar and he's like Gengar's in my team
but yeah you know no one uses Gengar yeah but because no one uses him you don't know what to do
against they don't expect him yeah so while you see the same sort of teams turn up he's rocking
out Gengar like what's he gonna do then bang and he's turning it over it's great it's always fun
we've always been the same we've always liked to go against the grain i'd rather you look at what
the meta is not to follow it but to counter it it always feels better going against the grain
because i'm such a stickler for looking at metas when it comes to world of warcraft and i get so
heavily influenced by them but i'm i'm working very it sounds ridiculous but i'm working very
hard to not be influenced by that because i feel like it ruins my gaming experience and when it
comes to arenas so like free v3s 2v2s and shit like that um i'm very very good at healing on a
on a class called a monk i'm just very good at it they're shit healers if you look at any of the
tables they're right down the bottom but i'm fucking good at it i'm really good at it so
when i do arenas on that thing people don't expect it because monks don't like monk healers
don't play those arenas so like you just said people don't know what to what to do against it
because they don't see them so i am a lot better than what other people are because it's a class
that i know but i play it completely differently to how other people would because i don't like
following that grain i go against it because i know what i'm doing and i love that type of shit
i'm so all for that so to hear clark is doing something like that is cool because normally
those types of people they're never they're never on top but they're fucking close to it because
people just can't work them out and then it's always cool when you get people following them
slowly people start doing the same shit the geese has just won the latest tournament with a move
that nobody uses and hasn't used in like 10 years it's a move where uh i can't remember what it's
called but after three turns every pokemon dies um that's there so you can obviously take your
pokemon out but there's a way to keep them trapped there and stuff like that and he won the
tournament like that because no one's expecting it yeah what what's this what the fuck is he doing
yeah you want that funky shit man it's very cool i've done it with uh one of the just put on one
of the i can't remember if it's called volcarana one of the pokemon i'm using i've put a psychic
move on it it's no one else is going to use a psychic move on it so when i pull it out people
are like oh that's all right it's not i'm not weak against that well you are when i use the
psychic move dickhead yeah yeah i mean you don't expect that and um it flusters people when you
throw out something that they just aren't expecting it might it might only be one move out because
it's four it's four four attacks you have in it so you might only have one move out of the four
that is completely fucking out of nowhere and sometimes that might not even be intended to
actually do anything but just throw off your opponent because you you throw out a move that
no one's fucking using they will go what the what is this going about and if you're sitting high
and in the in the brackets you're obviously there for a reason you're not just a fucking idiot at
the bottom who who doesn't know what they're doing yet um so yeah the mind games of it are very cool
it makes them doubt every move they go on forward from that yeah they don't know anymore they go
what has this guy got if he's pulling out psychic what and obviously you know how pokemon works you
know fires strong against grass bloody bloody blah but in boat in uh violet and scarlet they
introduce something called terrestrialization which is basically once a game you can terrestrialize
one of your pokemon and change its type entirely yeah i like so you can be like to any type but
you can change it manually but you have to collect terra shards or whatever but so you could have a
you could have a charizard but and then after the game it's just turning into a water type
therefore still doing fire moves but now is is not weak against so oh what you can do it mid game
you can change it all right until until it dies basically yeah have that so now all of a sudden
charizard is is water um and and he won't be vulnerable that's crazy charizard's a water type
yeah so it just changes the game completely because now you just don't know what pokemon are going to
do what you that's like another that's another layer massive of of complete fuckery it happens
all the time it's crazy they throw out a grass type i'm like right i'm gonna pull out my volcarana
who's got flame blast everyone knows it's got flame blast or whatever pull it out they and you
go you press your move flame blast you're gonna cook you're gonna be one shot and then all of a
sudden they've terrestrialized it and it's completely changed to water and they've pre-empted that yeah
so they know what you're doing yeah and you're like oh fuck and now i'm weak against that
and they'll do you it's yeah it makes another it's another layer and obviously pokemon have dual
types now a lot of the time they're not just bug or water they'll be bug and dark yeah yeah yeah
so the damage will be reduced 25 percent or whatnot there's just so much it's so in-depth
for something that looks so basic on the surface and is all intents and purposes if you just want
to play the story very basic you go there you hit with the hardest moves the super effective moves
you win and then you fuck off yeah if you go deep into it there's a lot there's a lot under the hood
and that's why i say whilst pokemon violet and scarlet are not like uh the best performing like
in terms of frames per second when you compare it to something like zelda where it still should be
better running but there's so much information under the hood that's like moving pieces in numbers
and stuff that um yeah that i think a lot of casual players just wouldn't give it credit for
i think that's why so a lot of a lot of pvp stuff is seen as somewhat niche when it comes to that
you think of player versus player environments and things like you think of cod battlefield the
first person shooter type you don't think of pokemon as player versus player um even world
of warcraft is sort of not died out with pvp but a lot of people don't really pay much attention
anymore um so when that happens you end up with the diehards that are playing that and they are
the people that go massively in depth and they fucking know everything because they they have
to because the person that they're going against knows everything so you you slowly weed out the
people that are that are just not that interested in it and i think that's both good and sad at the
same time because i think how many people miss out on pvp for that one reason in that they're
just out of their depth but you need that depthness to have pvp otherwise it becomes very bland and
the people that are top tier playing it are going to find something else because it just becomes
boring yeah that's that's why i think pvp is so good and it has a place in so many games because
i'm a single player game player i prefer single player games i always have but after a while
you're like right now i've done all i can do i'm bored let me take this to a competitive scene like
you said where you know someone's there you know you're either making someone frustrated or angry
and like you know because you've felt that from the other side yeah do you know what i mean so it's um
there's a different taste of killing someone that is an actual player or being better than
proving that you are better than another person you don't know who the fuck that person is but you are
you are better than them and then when you you have a ranking system and you can you can go
online and you can see where you're sitting in the rankings and and and see how how far up you are
it feels good because everyone can complete a fucking game only a certain amount of people
can be sitting on top of a ranked pvp system and everyone wants to be there it's yeah something
really fruity about it and pokemon with all this integration with pokemon go and pokemon home you
know i'm playing pokemon go to catch pokemon to send to pokemon home so when the pokemon home
integration comes into violet and scarlet if there's pokemon that i've caught i can just transfer
them over and they might be good i mean there's there's pokemon in games that because there's
like a mystery box feature on pokemon home so you can put loads of pokemon you don't want in a box
and then leave it for a couple of hours come back and it will have randomly traded that box with
someone else's box in the world that's cool and then you can get loads of pokemon so for loads of
i haven't played pokemon games in years so i'm collecting so many pokemon from other games that
i've never had before yeah and now i've got them in here so when they're integrated into the violet
i can just go bop and transfer them over i wish they could um amalgamate the trading card game
app with the pokemon games oh i'm sure they will it would be very cool because obviously
for people who don't know when you buy pokemon cards there's a there's a there's a card in there
which has a qr code on it and when you scan it if you have the trading card game app you can
basically open up another virtual deck and then it gives you um random pokemon cards from that set
in that deck um like my my trading card game app has it's annoying because my deck on my app is
better than the fucking deck that i have sitting in the in the bedroom you know i mean there's so
much better shit on this app um but it's useless because i don't i don't play through the app i
don't use it so it'd be cool if they could sort of implement something with that because you get
obviously you have gems on there as well whether it could be something like all right you can you
out of all of the pokemon you have you can have some of these and it will cost you this many gems
that you've acquired through either playing on the app or just from collecting real life pokemon
cards if there was something you could do with that um that would be very cool or and then make
it say like i don't know if it's if it's like a legendary obviously you can't it wouldn't be
fair to just be able to transfer a legendary over into a pokemon game but if it was like okay you
can transfer it over but you can only use it for player versus player would be a a cool thing
but i'm not i don't play it so i don't really fully understand that but if they could implement
something like that just to make it a little bit more useful would be would be really fucking cool
yeah in pokemon violent scarlet they they release these raids uh probably every month or so every
fortnight on the weekends where you can go and battle a raid and pokemon there'll be four of you
um and then you can catch it at the end it'll be like a charizard or something from the old games
that you can't get stuff like that and they've released one uh at the moment but you get such
good resources out of it's such a good farming place that i've just spent all day when i've had
some downtime today just farming these raids they just get resources to put into my other pokemon
because the season resets tonight at one o'clock and there's the legendary pokemon that are in
pokemon violent scarlet are being integrated into the ranked because you can play with them in
casual but there's rules you can't use certain pokemon in rank mode right so like the legendaries
and stuff so the legendaries are coming in so the meta is just going to go bang tomorrow
completely switched up yeah and i've only caught one of the four legendaries um i call him two
chains he's got two chains hanging from his nose is that the bird the the three the four birds no
no they're like uh these are i don't know one's a fish one's a wolf looking thing uh so they're
sick but um there's going to be completely meta changing and defining so it's exciting and i've
this would be the first time i've started from the start of a ranked season so it'd be interesting
to see how i'd get on throughout the course and meta is always cool for people to complain yeah
but i just want to see fucking constantly my plan is i want to just go into a few ranked battles
early on i want to see how people are using these new pokemon before i build because i want to tech
for what they're doing i don't want to build what they're building i don't want to do what they're
i want to go right i'm seeing a lot of these so i'm going to counter it with this yeah yeah yeah
that's what i want to do i don't want to i want to go off meta i want to i want to build to count or
i don't want to build to just copy everyone else because then you're just mirroring it all the
time and it's just frustrating i feel like uh metas um they're they're weird man they're
they're very strange because everyone everyone begins to follow a meta and i feel like it takes
somewhat of the skill out of playing because everyone's doing the exact same thing everyone's
doing the same rotation everyone's using the same play style um it gets very boring very quick um but
it it does depend on the situation of the metas because if they are proper good it's very difficult
to steer off of that because you're always hitting a brick wall always which makes it very difficult
to actually enjoy going against that it's a weird one it's very weird it's very very very weird the
thing is with pokemon is there might be a meta but it doesn't matter because if you're coming
up against your complete counter yeah yeah yeah yeah it doesn't matter really yeah the meta itself
is is different to how i may perceive yeah well meta in destiny call of duty is very cut and dry
you know this gun is the best this is good this isn't this will kill you this won't you're a
massive disadvantage if you do not use this yeah as in pokemon yeah there's there's really good
you could have all the best moves and all the best types and all the best things but if your counter
is directly the opposite to what that is then it's no longer the best is it yeah you know so there is
meta but in the same way there isn't so that's why i like it as well and even then i suppose you don't
you ain't gonna fucking see who you're being matched up with anyway no no no until you're
matched up with them you see their team there's six pokemon that they can choose for that's only
that's only after yeah you can't if you cancel out when you see that screen then you lose yeah
so you have to you go in with whatever team and you see that team you go oh fuck that they're
gonna beat me you can't back out you'll just lose so you have to go all right but there's been many
times i've been playing and i'm playing teams i should lose to but i've managed to get through it
so many times it comes down to one pokemon be one pokemon well again just because just because
you're playing against a team that on paper is better than you doesn't mean that the person
behind the screen is actually better than you are they all it takes is one fuck up of a move you
you've done the wrong thing or you've calculated the wrong thing you you've just messed up or
something misses do you know yeah yeah yeah it's all it's all it's all um rng based stuff so there
there's so many factors of it man that and i i just i just love that kind of shit i love it so much
it's great it's really it's really fun i'm having a great time it's a good sense of accomplishment
when you're doing well my player versus player yesterday was the first time that i looked at a
team sheet and i went right he's gonna pull these two out he's gonna do this he's gonna do that and
i nailed him he didn't lay a glove on me i killed all four pokemon before he killed any of them
and it feels good i feel like it feels so good i've leveled up i love it and then obviously
pokemon violet and scarlet's cards come out last night i managed to resist but i was watching a
lot of unpacking it was it was enjoyable can't do it man you had a you had a bit of a big pull
this week didn't you it was completely random i've been thinking i was like i haven't bought any
pokemon cards lately for a while i'm trying to save for a mortgage so it's sort of i understood
how much money i've spent on pokemon cards so i was like ah yeah like it's cool saying it's
an investment but when you're not selling any of it it's not it's not investing um so uh i i sort
of pulled out of buying pokemon cards for a little bit and then i just needed milk from the petrol
station it's the closest shop i just needed milk and every now and then they've got silver tempest
in there and i went in there and there was i think seven or eight packs in there because i'll have
them fuck it i'll take them and then yeah i go it was eight i had i opened four steph opened four
and i think like the first pack she opened was the lugia v the um the alternative art which is
worth like 100 quid like 80 to 100 quid something like that and then if you get it graded and it's
a decent grade well i'm like you get that from ace grading um it's about 270 quid so i was like
fucking hell fair play haven't opened any cards for since my birthday so it was it was quite nice
i that's a lie because i've got you some packs yeah but that was shortly after my birthday
that you forgot but anyway it was it felt nice it felt nice but i i will resist for there's a
couple that i need to get graded um i just can't be bothered the only reason i'm so interested in
pokemon violet and scarlet set is because pokemon violet is the first pokemon i've played since
probably i was a kid that i got well into so like the pokemon that are in this set i actually know
and i'm invested in because i'm using them in battles and they'll be they'll be like just the
most basic cards that i'll love because i love that pokemon yeah there's all these other ones
that i've missed from playing years and years ago i haven't played them so i just don't know them so
they've got no feeling no feeling towards them but yeah like there'd be some pokemon like delibird
and you know i love them yeah it's great and i'm having a great time but i suppose that's enough
about pokemon i guess it's probably valheim's dead valheim's definitely not dead i love that
shit older your boy david he's he's backtracked on it he's loving it now you know well that old
fucker yeah the old boy he fucking loves it of course he does he's struggling against the um
the first boss um uh but i told my power i told rich to to tell him about the invis frames with
the rolls rolling into him and then voila but yeah he's loving it he's built himself a little
settlement yeah he's like i had it all wrong do you know what i mean he's proper into it so fair
play to him i love that he's loving it i moved and rebuilt my entire base and it took an entire day
to do it like i'm talking the whole day of just constant moving and oh god it was fucking i'll
tell you man it was it was uh it was stressful it was real fucking stressful um i basically built a
cube i thought four by four square with a roof well since i since you like we spoke about the
fact that you can manipulate the terrain around you to build a a wall um that very little things
can get through and i thought i want that i want that rather than just building a standard wall
that i've got to keep repairing so i was like right i want to do that but i don't want my base
on the ground i was like i want my base up in the air so i started building stairs and i just went
up and then i was like right okay i need to do this properly because when i did the first base
there i didn't treat it like proper building there was no support structures everywhere anywhere or
anything like that so obviously shit that i could only build so much and then if i built anything
on it it would start to break and things like that so i started off with about two flights of
stairs literally just straight up and then built a flooring now naturally you can only go about
four tiles out and then it starts to break because there's no support so i was like all right okay
i'm about fucking 20 foot in the air here so i started building support structures and then i
just kept building so i basically just had a massive series of cubes just massive just just
imagine if you drew just like three lines and then another three lines and then you just kept on
building up and then any any single point that you could join another bit of wood to to attach it to
another bit of wood i kept doing that so this was so it was so intricate there was so much fucking
wood involved in this and then i paneled it all up because naturally when it rains it it degrades
so the durability goes down to 50 it never breaks but it goes down to 50 so i thought right one way
to get around this i'll panel around it and then it's only those panels because you're talking
easily easily like a thousand pieces of wood here like there's a lot there is a lot so i paneled
around it and then at the top i had to build the roof which was a fucking pain in the ass
because i'm shit at building roofs anyway i managed to build fucking something right and then i put
the bed on it you need a fire don't you if you want to sleep in the bed what can't you put fire on
flooring fuck what what am i going to do here like what the fuck so i then had another thought
a thought you can dig because i dig down and i did so i went back down to the bottom so my cube is
still there paneled round with the fucking roof on top of it and a bed there and fucking light so
it looks like a proper like like penthouse so what i did i went all the way down to the bottom so
i'm outside of it i took a panel off right and exposed some of the beaming right and then i
it was terrifying i started to remove bits i started taking away bits and i got in so i'm now
in this cube i can't see fuck all because there is literally just wood i'll show you at some point
there was just wood everywhere and i was like okay let me take out this bit of wood nothing happens
okay cool let me take out this bit and then this bit and then this bit and i kept on taking more
and more and more away from this structure and nothing was happening until a point where
until a point where basically imagine i'm i'm two stories up well to be fair i'm three stories up
in in the structure that i've built and i've managed to take out two entire stories within
the structure that i've built and it's still standing it's nice and solid so i've completely
hollowed it out and have now made a secondary floor within that that has all my chests on it
all my inventory and then underneath that is my fires my another bed all my crafting shit
stairs within stairs there's fucking loads of stuff man and the bit i love about it is all i
have to do is go out of it and then just put another panel up and then it looks like there's
absolutely nothing there it's great i love it sounds like you undersold it when you called it
a cube it sounds quite cool next time we're both on i'm coming into your world i was look at that
i was terrified because i i cleared out the bottom floor started putting everything down
and then obviously while i'm doing this there's the day and night cycle going right so i'm also
being fucking attacked while this is going on yeah but i've built a fat off fucking wall around me
right so in the in the interim of being attacked and building i'm having to go over to my other
base dismantle it and then bring it back to my base but all all while i'm doing this there's
certain things i have to leave there because i've got a repair and shit like that i'm using the car
of fucking it took me forever um and yeah i built the i built the bottom floor it don't get me wrong
it doesn't look pretty but it's very functional um and i put i hollered it out and then i started
to hollow above me i put stairs in and then as i got more and more that i was hollowing out
you know the noise it makes when you dismantle something like it breaks yeah i did that and then
every now and then you'd hear another bit break like oh fuck like where where's that coming from
and it was the roof the the bits that i was taking out with the at the bottom were the support
instructors for some of the roofs so i've had to go back up and then like refix them um but i think
i've done all right like i've literally got an entire floor that's now decked out with every
single inventory box and i've labeled all the inventory boxes so like one for like hides and
bones one for meat one for rocks one for seeds one for wood all of that shit is all fucking
labeled out i've got my smelter and all that shit that's knocking around and then yeah i've
i built the i built the wall with the with the um manipulating the landscape so i probably got
like a 10 foot fucking rock wall and then on top of that wall i've gone around and put them them
wooden spike fences around the entire entire structure and then i've just got one like that
double door is my entrance it's very good i'm happy i'm happy with it it's good yeah you can
tell that that david's been watching videos on it or saying because rich was telling me uh
he wants to build like spike uh fences and lure the troll into it because it kills it and stuff
and i was like yeah you've watched videos you've watched them 10 tips to know about valheim i've
got i've i've got obviously a lot on the facebook um groups and shit and some of the fucking places
are these people build and i don't understand where they get in the fucking room for it i don't
understand how they get their brain to do it but how do they visualize how do they make them this
big because i've built this entire i've gone to the limits of that fucking dotted white line that
it gives you i am at the limits of that and all i have is a fucking free story building and a hut
but how the fuck are people building castles i don't get how they're doing it i really don't
understand it well you know what that dotted line is don't you that's only that's you can build
outside of that that's only the area you can build within where your workbench is have you
brought a workbench oh shit yeah of course how stupid yeah you just bang another workbench yeah
and then it will yeah yeah that's fucking stupid to me i'll take everything back that i've just
said let me pause i need a piss i was about to say same thing there's a nice little wee wee break
i never really know how to come back from that we're back click clack we're back
well i've completely forgot what we were talking about um we were talking about valheim but i think
we've done enough of that now fucking get rid of it get rid of valheim so nice sick game uh you
wanted to talk about amazon lunar amazon lunar it's um yeah it's a um it's new but it isn't new
but it is but it isn't it's quite old but it's actually brand new so it it's been out in america
for like 18 months something like that and what amazon lunar is is it's a streaming service
for games you remember playstation now yes basically that that's awful but you remember how shit
playstation now was yes recently i used it and it was awful nothing streamed properly the fucking
servers were horrible the graphics were grim the quality was shit the loading times were wank
everything about it there's a reason why they've got rid of it well this is very very good i won't
lie it's very good so the if you have amazon prime you get access to four different games i
can't remember what they are you get access to them for free they're shit because they're free
but you can link your ubisoft plus account with this amazon lunar and it gives you the ubisoft
catalog so all the assassins creeds fucking the division ghost recon things like that um and then
and then i think that is 14.99 a month but if you don't want to use you ubisoft plus one you can use
the amazon one which i think is like nine pound a month something like that and then you have access
to another catalog which has like control on it i flicked through the catalog and there's nothing
really in it for me to be interested in doing it however i can see why there would be quite a
there's quite a lot of indie games on there but there are some some gems on there and i watched
steph sister lucy play it now you can play on your fire stick uh on your laptop on your fucking smart
telly anything that's got basically got the amazon app on it you can you can play um and amazon have
brought out their own controller for this service looks very similar to like an xbox um controller
or a stadia controller uh and when i watch lucy play it instant like instant play there's no
fucking around with it the fact that you haven't got to download anything i find that crazy because
the quality is absolutely spot on there's no limitation you only need a download speed of 10
megabits a second which really isn't a lot in today's day and age it's quite fucking manageable
and what i wanted to see was a test on an online service game so i watched her play control on it
there was no input lag the graphics were perfect it played absolutely great so i was intrigued to
see what something like the division 2 would play on it because obviously that game is entirely
online and i went on to youtube and there was a guy that was playing it and he played the division
2 and he got so into it it was it was that it was playing that well he forgot that he was doing a
review on it and just i sat there and watched him for 15 minutes just playing the division 2
because he forgot that he was reviewing and i feel like if the game catalogue becomes decent
say you put this type of game catalogue on par with like xbox game pass then i think you've got
something dangerous on your hands here something quite meaty because the fact that you don't have
to download anything i find that crazy and it plays that well i find it mental i don't like that
and i hope it never succeeds i don't want it to ever become i don't want gaming ever to become
a streaming service because i just don't like streaming so i don't want to be playing a game
and tied to the fact that my internet goes down it's gone i don't like that i don't like
i don't like when the internet drops every now and again it doesn't matter how good your internet is
my internet's sick now every now and again it will drop a bit and something will happen i don't
want that to affect skyrim but how often does that happen no it doesn't happen often but it
happens enough to be jarring if you're just trying to play you know single player gta why do you want
to be streaming that and i don't i don't think it matters how good it is there's always going to be
some element of input lag it might be like a millisecond but it will never be perfect because
it's to get that button prompt it's having to send the signal from your controller to your console
and then from your console to the server wherever that fucking is and then back again well this is
where they've actually thought of that so the amazon lunar controller where i agree there will
be some slot some form of input lag with their their own controller you connect you can so say
you're playing this on on my laptop you connect an xbox controller because you can't connect a
fucking ps5 controller or you connect a ps4 controller whatever there's going to be an input
lag so that controller is connected to that game through the laptop on the game servers right and
that's how it's controlling the game the controller that you can get for the amazon lunar does not
connect to the game servers it connects to its own separate server that amazon run and apparently
that that reduces the input lag by i can't remember the exact number but it basically takes the input
lag from this much to this much to an unnoticeable amount like very very very miniscule so they're
kind of full of the input lag side of it but you have to spend the 60 odd quid to have that
that controller for it um but it it depends how much it really bothers you when it comes
with input lag from what i saw it doesn't actually seem noticeable well it depends if it's not
noticeable then no problem but going forward if that is the if that is their business model
they better understand that if there's any sort of competitive gaming you're in trouble yeah you
can't have the fucking input lag yeah just be blaming on that on i think i i like i like the idea of it i'm
with you in that i wouldn't want to be streaming games because i don't feel like i own them
and you're right if something goes wrong i can't play them however for people who either don't have
the time to download stuff or they just don't have decent internet my internet isn't great
it's a lot better now that i can run an ethernet straight into the fucking laptop before it's not
fantastic so downloading games are like 70 80 90 gig it's going to take quite a bit of time but
the fact that you could be able to just play these instantly with with no issue whatsoever
i think for a lot of people that's quite a that's quite a big thing it may not be absolutely massive
now because if it was i feel like the stadium would still be a thing because obviously that was
entirely streaming and that that is no longer in existence anymore but i feel like if you if you
could if amazon could build on their gaming catalogue because they are trying to break into
the gaming world um you've got something quite quite special there i'm all for it
i'm all for it as an option i just don't want that to become the main i don't think it'll ever
it'll ever take over i think what will happen is you won't get physical copies of gamers anymore
you'll only get the fucking steel books because well look at fucking god of war uh you didn't get
fucking a disc with that because it is it's not the same technology anymore most most gaming shops
i.e game in england and stuff like that they're more filled with merchant stuff than they are
games nowadays because games now where it used to be you had a disc version of a game it was less
to download because some of it would be sitting on the disc so i don't know fucking let's say red
dead redemption is 100 gig well on the disc it might have only been 70 gig because 30 of it's
sitting on that fucking disc whereas now it's very much if you get a physical copy that disc
is just a fucking an access key that's all it is you put that in your playstation and it goes oh
you own this game here's the key so you can start downloading it that's all that's on that fucking
disc it's just it's more of a gimmick than anything it's no different to a digital download
it's very very much the same and i think we spoke about it before that's why say in the next 10
years i don't think you're gonna get disc games anymore i really don't i just think you're gonna
i just think you're gonna get steel books for if people want to collect them i thought or if you
are gonna get discs it will just be for the sake of having the fucking key to download it digitally
i've always maintained that i hate downloading games and i'll always buy them physical but in
the last few years i have i can't remember the last game i bought physical no i just
no do you know what it is because i'm such an impatient man and i've been burnt too many times
when there's a game coming out that i want i want it instantly i don't want to oh what if amazon
don't arrive on the release date yeah for example star wars jedi survivor comes out at the end of
april i'm gasping at and it just come up on my little my little deal page that is cheaper on
amazon at the moment it's like a deal on for it i was i'd rather pay more to guarantee that i've
got it on the playstation store in case amazon turn up the day later you know what i mean this
is where i'm at but if the problem is with that once any servers go down or you know or playstation
cease to exist for whatever reason your entire collection is dead nothing it's all caught up in
their cloud their store you know i mean yeah but that's something that you just have to fucking
live with in it that that's just how it works yeah um a lot of games run like that is you own it but
you ain't fucking in control of where that stuff sits man it's not like the old days me and my
mate were playing his nests the other day we're playing bubble fucking bobble you know it still
works you just blow the blow the cassette slap it in go blow it again yeah you can't do that no more
yeah half the time you need internet connection just to play these fucking things but yeah no
not for me that um yeah as an option yes but as a as a i'm keeping i'm keeping an eye on it um
um because i i do feel like it could be something that's very very cool um i feel like day one
releases becoming a bigger thing now xbox has sort of set the standard with that one or microsoft
um i don't know if you know that playstation's latest uh plus games one of them is a day one
release i can't remember what else fucking called like that's that that's the extra plus in it make
it great or some fucking thing like that i can't get them on just the normal plan that i'm on the
little playstation i thought you did now you get games but you don't get like the new releases are
on like the upper plan no i think this this the the the three games that they're giving you for
playstation plus i think this one is a day one release okay um so i think like that's that's
going to be the direction and if if if amazon um lunar can can jump on that then there's more
of a reason to go to it uh but it's just interesting it's a different standpoint because they're not
going to come out of a fucking console it's too much competition of course stage everyone just
wants your money in in form of a subscription service is the easiest way to just make money
100 the only bit that i'd never agree with with this whole digital age is digital games being more
expensive than physical it's weird isn't it you ain't fucking got any cost you ain't got to make
anything you just you copy and paste the fucking game onto a key please give it to me i don't
understand why it's why the playstation store is charging me 75 fucking quid for a 10 year old
game but i could go and buy it on amazon for fucking five quid why why just because you got
ease of access of it being on a fucking server it's suck my dick it's so annoying i hate it so much
other than that i love digital games nice and convenient all right last but not least zelda
tears of the kingdom had a hands-on gameplay reveal for the first time in its existence
it was good wouldn't it i enjoyed it initial impressions uh it looks exactly the same as
breath of the world which is not a bad thing i'm not moaning i will not bash that because i
thought he looked fine um new powers and abilities still weapons are breaking instantly as soon as
he started eating things with that branch and it snapped i was like yeah but then he then he fucking
terraformed it into something else he did terraform it but as i said before all i want from breath of
the world and tears of the kingdom now is just a way to repair weapons i don't care if they break
that's fine but don't let me find a sick weapon and then not be able to use it again because i
won't fucking use it you don't know if that's going to be implemented or not though no that's
what i'm saying i hope they're hiding a lot i hope it is because i and many other game gamers um
suffer from a condition which i think stems from rpgs which is too good to use syndrome yeah so
you'll pick exactly the same you'll pick items up you'll pick potions up you'll pick money up you'll
pick all these things up and you won't fucking use them because you always go i might need it later
and you end the game with millions in the bank thousands of potions i use them yes see i don't
i use them because i think fuck it and then like in breath of the wild i pick up a sick weapon
and i'd never use it because i didn't want it to break after five swings so hopefully they've
they've looked at the feedback from everything else and they've looked at what people were doing
in that game with like with all the amazing physics that it has and making things fly and
stuff like that and they've gone right well they could do that without any tools now here's a toolkit
to go and make what the fuck you want and build rafts and spaceships and fucking whatever else
you want to build just to see how the mechanics work and the great thing about breath of the wild
was there was no right way to do anything you you you could make it work a completely different way
to everybody else so it's interesting to see how your brain reacts to the tools that are put in
front of you with these games so i'm gassed for that the future uh this month and next month is
scary because i've got star wars jedi survivor comes out at the end of april then we got diablo
and fucking and zelda next month yep mad fucking mad month bro i i think just quickly going back
to zelda i don't think there's going to be a repair system in it for the reasons that i think
they've sunk a lot of time from what we briefly saw into crafting your own weapons and changing
and all the different possibilities of that so i feel like if you then introduce a repairing
system it takes away from that inherent want to create different types of weapons if you like with
the stick and the fucking the rock so you got this this rock stick well if you fucking break that
but you can repair it well there's no reason why why you'd make a different version of that
because i've got one here but if that breaks you might go all right well rather than me keep making
sticks and rocks and putting them together i might put a stick and a fucking mushroom together or
whatever i know it's very basic but i just feel like if you introduce a repair system to that
you're taking away from a system that is encouraging you to explore different um mixtures of of
of ingredients you know i hear that and i agree with what you're saying and i completely understand
but what is the obsession with forcing me to use everything creativity why can't i just find
something i love and let me enjoy it for what i enjoy because they do let you enjoy it and then
when it breaks you just make another one it doesn't work like that it didn't in breath of
the wild yeah but it works like that now you watch them do it if you break it you just go and make
another one of whatever you've broken but you don't know how rare the thing that i want to use is
well then that's your problem for not wanting to use it it's their problem because they're fucking
making the cutting thing fucking break no that's your problem that is your problem if you've got a
fucking weapon that is fucking sick you use it use the motherfucker yeah and then it breaks and then
i can't get another one yeah but you've enjoyed it it's not about the point it is the point let me
play the fucking game oh i want to fucking play it stop forcing his shit cunt into my
system down my throat i ain't fucking buying it fuck hunting game dead to me when you got rivers
of blood on elden ring why did you like it so much because it hit hard and it fucking killed shit
yeah so if it ever broke if you ever you used it for i don't know four hours and then it breaks
you just don't get angry you just look at the four hours you had it and go yeah that weapon was
fucking sick now let's find something else no i don't i go i loved that and it's gone and i
loved that and it's gone i want that back no yes you can't have it back off you're you're talking
such shit all right what if i then did this all right four hours it's gonna break you go i love
that i want that fucking back and i go all right mate you can have that back but you just got to
grind a little bit to get this stuff to have it back if you want it back that bad off you trot
i want the weapon that i picked up i don't want a different one i want the one it'd be the same
fucking thing man why do i have to do that because that's what breath of the wild is that's what
zelda wants you to do they want you to explore the different fucking types of weapons and shit man
this is what i feel like this entire game is wanting you to explore your own creativity
you can make your own fucking rafts and shit and i will find your weapon i want a fucking sword
that i found and i'll put that in the back and i'll go what's this let me put these together oh
that's cool anyway let me get my sword out and hit that yes yes but you might so you pick up this
sword and you fucking love it you're wanking off to it in the shower this sword is the best thing
that you have ever seen in your life you've left gemma this sword is everything right well when you
put this fucking rock on this sheep head and then attach it to a crane and make some weird fucking
mace thing you might look at that and go oh that's cool and then slap it in your bag and forget about
it because you've got this really cool sword but you may never realize that that thing that you've
just slept in your bag is actually 10 times better than the fucking sword that you're holding but
because you love this sword so much and you're not interested in changing you actually ended up with
a shitter weapon than what you've already fucking made who cares that's how i want to play the game
yes but why why would you do that because that's why i'm fucking prerogative that's what i want to
do just because we had this discussion i don't want to wear fucking armor in destiny that is good
because it's got good stats i want to wear what looks good hence why there's a fucking transmog
system in every fucking game now yeah exactly because you want to wear what you want to wear
yeah so i want to use what i want to fucking use so let me use it and stop fucking breaking
but you can you just make another one it's not a fucking point you're so frustrating on why is it
frustrating yeah but why is it frustrating you're just sucking up because you don't want stef to
listen to it and be like oh zelda oh i'm so angry because you shan zelda i'm going oh re-shooting so
much trouble so you're scared so you're just saying because off camera off fucking for audio
you are not like this you're like fuck zelda zelda's a piece of shit nintendo's for kids
it's a load of wank where do you want to hear like oh the nintendo switch is such an awesome
bit of equipment i can see why nintendo want this the weapons to break because if they break then
you experiment with your own fucking mind fuck off this is character development i'm not buying
it now everyone on the podcast knows how many opinions i've had on various different things
and in the following episode i've changed my opinion completely because i've given it at the
time of day nintendo is no different i never used to like nintendo but i they've grown on me
and it's not because i'm scared of stef it was because i was scared after this i'm going to
tell her to fucking listen to the previous episode and then we'll see who's fucking scared of stef
but it's i i think i genuinely think that it's a good idea you sit in there going i want my
fucking sword forever well you have your fucking sword you go and hit 10 things with it and then
just leave it in your fucking bag listen i'm sorry you can't even have an opinion because you've
never played the game you go play that game then come back to me and tell me it's not fucking
annoying every three swings your weapon breaks you go in your backpack you've got 50 weapons
i'm not joking go play it and then come on next week and tell me i'm never playing exactly it's
not the most frustrating thing in the world you go look at any zelda comments on any fucking post
and i guarantee you their biggest gripe with the game is that of weapons breaking clark he didn't
even buy breath of the wild because of the weapons breaking it is a problem that people don't want to
have so to have it forced down your throat is a fucking pain in the ass yes this system seems to
alleviate some of them issues and it looks a lot better but it still doesn't take away the fact
probably that if i've got something i like i won't use it because i don't want to break the
fucking thing so it's wasted i won't use it you're going against what you want me to do you want me
to use all these things but i won't use the good shit because i don't want to break it it's dumb
all right are you excited for it yes i was i was now fucking sick of it i hope it fucking gets
canceled why because you've annoyed me you're such a wet lettuce you know that i'm pissed me off no
it's ridiculous either way suck a dick either way we nearly got through a whole podcast nearly
i don't really give a fuck i'm not gonna play it i know you ain't i know you've just done it
to prod me i know exactly what you're doing i hate the idea of having to make my own raft
i just give me a boat i couldn't think of anything worse than fucking breaking weapons
you just wanted to fucking wind me up give me a fucking boat i don't want to have to sit there
and make one that propels itself just give me the fucking stuff man give me a ground mount give me
a water mount give me a fly mount simple as that fucking soppy cunt i think the weapon thing is
cool but yeah i can very much see how it is annoying that they keep breaking thank you that's all i
wanted is a bit of understanding i understand you thank you it's all i wanted some empathy
yeah you're a dick i'm going listen we gotta do the patreon but just bearing mind next week
we're going on the star wars thing on friday so it'll either be no change for you where we've
recorded it on the first day and released it on friday or it might be a day or two late depending
we don't know what we're doing yet we haven't discussed it i'm too tired to sort anything out
right now so we'll we'll let you have content don't worry about that you little fucking maggots
you'll have something to listen to yeah exactly but we're going to record for the important people
that pay us now that's where the good shit happens that's where the money is we're going to go over
to the money side thanks for listening anyway we appreciate you all and we want your thoughts and
feelings on zelda no we don't not me anyway if you're gonna come at me with that shit don't
bother but at least wait till tomorrow because i am i'll rip i'll rip heads off fucking shoulders
i need sleep all right see you later everyone over