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It's another milestone for what's the buttons it's episode 30

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And with me I have Steph

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Not ash

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on nights again

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So that's upsetting that you couldn't be here for another I think you missed the last milestone

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I think I think he missed 20 or did he not no

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I don't think so. He missed the first exclusive episode on patreon. Yeah, which by the way you can subscribe to

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Patreon

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patreon.com forward slash watch the buttons

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Yeah, how are you?

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Yeah, Steph had COVID everyone in the house got COVID and

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Me and your mom managed to avoid it. Yeah, that's literally was half as both fuck knows how I have no idea how that happened

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But yeah, so

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We're quite tired to be fair. I must admit the energy levels are quite low. I've been busy at work for once

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Doing a lot of chainsaw related stuff. So I'm a bit tired

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But as ever we're gonna provide you

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Bless your ear rolls with good stuff with some good shit

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Cat

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There's a cat purring for you want some ASMR. This is actually we've got our first guest

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Izzy what have you to say?

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I guarantee they won't hear that. They might do it depends how loud people please listen to it

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Maybe I'll heighten the audio

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We haven't done a list

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No, no

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Yeah, we sort of

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The quarry would be a good one. Oh, we going straight in. Yeah

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Fuck all the messing around it'll be the quarry

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Me and Steph both played it together. If you listen to the last podcast episode, you would have

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Heard me complaining about the quarry and how me and Mark both purchased it hoping to play it together and in actual fact

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Because we're lonely and it's just the two of us

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You can't play it multiplayer. Well, no, I think it's it's

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It's just a bit of a wanky set up

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In the sense that you can see why they thought it was a good idea. It's fucking stupid what I don't understand

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How hard is it to make a?

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online play

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Exactly like the couch cop without passing the controller. That's all they had to do

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so the setup of yeah, yeah, and it's called it's called like wolf pack or something like that and

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And essentially what happened? I don't know. Did you explain?

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Well, let's roll it back real quick. So so you got you got single-player for the quarry

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so the quarry for the people that may not have listened to the last episode is a a

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horror

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Telltale type game

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though

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And it's it's made by the same people that made the dark anthology picture series

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Which me and mark have played every single one in that series

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and yes, the they made the quarry and

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It it originally came out a single player and then multiplayer was added in at a later date and it has

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Online multiplayer and then like Steph said couch co-op, which is a LAN party essentially. Yeah

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Go on

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I

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I was watching I was in bed because I wasn't well, but I was watching recent mark have a go and

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Essentially what was happening?

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Was I discovered because he and I did you were seeding when I interrupted you but I'm sure now that you're glad I did

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That's only because you have a habit of

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Yeah, but I was always canceling headphones. Oh, right

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Was it and it were the interruption, you know, you know how?

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Mothers their hearing is adapted to

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Being alerted by high-pitched noises in a sense that if their babies crying, there's a high-pitched noise and they wake up

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I'm almost certain that my ears have adapted to your voice

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Because when I got them headphones on you can't fucking hear anything around you anything at all

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That's what they're designed for. It's why I paid the big bucks for them, but you I

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Can hear you clear as day?

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Clear as day. I'll be sitting there. The game will be loud as fuck and I will hear you

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Mumble something behind me and I just know to turn around and you do it every time and it's both sweet

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Cold, it's sweet and annoying at the same time

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but basically

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What I found out was essentially

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Whoever started the party is the only one who makes the decisions

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And you can have up to seven friends, but all those people do is vote on the decisions

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which makes it essentially yet unplayable if it's two of you because

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Whoever votes what just is either fifty fifty or a hundred percent

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if you've got seven people except that would be incredible because the

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Arguments you would be having because obviously a lot of the decisions you have to make us

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So probably like 70% of the of the decisions you have to make in the game

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There's no time limit to make them. Yeah, you just sit there in the in the cut script

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Fucking can I speak? I can't speak properly in the

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Cut scene. Yeah, and then nothing happens and then the other 30%

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Is all timed and some of them are really quick

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So it would it sounds like it would be absolute chaos if you had seven people having to make a quick decision in five seconds

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And you've got no time to talk to anyone. You've got to make your decision

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Did you get to one of those where it needed to happen like because I can can you imagine?

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When I bet it just doesn't ask. Yeah, we yeah at the beginning when you're when you get knocked off the road

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And you have to decide whether to hit the log or

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Yeah, steer away from it. That's a that was a timed one. Yeah, and you had a choice. I had a choice

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This was this was where it caught us off guard because

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What me and mark did for the first couple ones because it we did quite a few of them

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I went one I'd go choose the option on the left and he'd choose the option on the right and it would follow him

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Yeah, and then there were some options where we would both pick the same and then it was only for like when you said is

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When we did a quick experiment with it and for the next like five things that come up

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We went completely opposite

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Answers and it always went with marks. Yeah, cuz he was cuz he was the host

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But I'd imagine if you had if there was one more person if it was me and another person that were picking

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The option on the left and he was picking the one on the right

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We would go for the the one on the left because it was giving us a percentage every time we was answering. So

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And I just found that I found that so annoying because there was nowhere

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That it told you that's how it played out in the game

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Even before you set up the party didn't say what the

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That's how it did things. No, and I mean, I don't I don't know how hard could have been if you want that mode cracking

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But being that how couch cop worked was essentially you could have again up to eight players

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and essentially how you do it is you've got your eight characters and you

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Assigned them to be yeah player one player two

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So we just we to make it easy because I wasn't sure how

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You know easy we remember who was who I did all the girls raised it all the boys

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So, you know pretty straightforward and that was how we remembered

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But it did actually come up and say like player one player two. Yeah, but there was also an option to just completely randomize it

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Why why you wouldn't offer that online? I don't understand how hard is to just is it something about diverting the the the

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You know the play between consoles

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but this is this is the this is the um, the difficult thing to understand is exactly that and the fact that

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Supermassive games made it and like I say

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The dark anthology picture series is what they do. That's that's what they do and and and they're no

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No, but you're playing it concept. You're playing it at the same time

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Yes, that's what they do. And I think that's what they do

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They're playing it at the same time

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Yes, that's not what this was. No, but I'm saying that so we were playing at the same time

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Yes, but they know how to create a game where you where you can do it like that

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So I really struggled to work out how they couldn't just do not the same thing

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But exactly what you're saying have the couch co-op but online but then is it because

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We haven't got friends

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Maybe this is why so how we played it. Okay as far as our ps5 was concerned

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It was playing a game the whole time when I'm sat there watching you the console is playing it

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Don't care who's who's it's got in its hands

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so if you're now playing that online you're gonna have to switch between states of

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That console is now watching the game being played on another console and with no input

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Maybe that's more difficult than we're giving them credit. Can you see what I mean?

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Like when you say when you play the other ones you're both playing at the same time

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Your console is playing the whole time. Yeah, it's consoles playing the whole time

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How difficult is it to make to constantly switch?

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It would be constantly swapping and changing essentially a cutscene that is live

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Because it's happening as mark is choosing to display that on your PlayStation

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PlayStation with you having no input and if you think maybe they just thought that it would be a bit boring because

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Sometimes one of us will play for 15 minutes. Yeah, you just be sad

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Yeah, but they are able to because we've with any of the the the dark stuff

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Even though you're playing the same game but playing different characters because when you play say the legs on the devil in me

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I can't see what the other players do it. Yeah, you cannot see them. It's just your screen and what you are doing

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Yeah, but obviously you can talk to the other person or whoever whoever you're playing with. Yeah, but in order to progress

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That person would have to

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Is affecting you? Yeah, so so my PlayStation

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Knew what was going on with marks PlayStation because he could progress the story without my say so and it would fucking skip out half

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You shit. Yeah, of course. No, that's not what I'm saying. So obviously it's the same in online

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You know everything what I mean is it's about

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You not playing

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Yeah, if you think about it, what what what can you think of?

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Where you're interacting with somebody else, but you're not doing anything. I

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Can't think of one in every game like that. You're doing something too. Mm-hmm

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Yeah, true, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just maybe it was just too much

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We were like, but it wasn't but it wasn't bad. I'll say that yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't

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It I find it difficult

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I'm so sorry. I'm having a refreshment

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Your eyes in that

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They're not too cold

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Is that lemon lemon really nice I opened that this morning

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That'll go dusty by the end of the bottle though. Yeah, can't wait

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Coach your teeth

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Fucking saying sorry, I said I said you said maybe that is the case

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I was it was fun

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It gave us the opportunity to

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Play it together. Mm-hmm, which was good. One of the features. I really really like about it and

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isn't in any of

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the other supermassive games games is the

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Ability you so there's always different paths. There's fucking loads in this one. There was what?

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186 different

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Ways you could do a fit the story fucking loads and

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The devil in me little hope

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Fucking all the other ones. I can't remember at the moment

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It's the same. It's the same case. However, if you finish the game and

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everyone survived

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Is that me that is me

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and everyone survived

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You could go back and do another playthrough and then try and kill everyone

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Fucking who is that?

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Fucking tick tock

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No way you can

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Go back. You'd have to go back and do another playthrough and try and kill everyone again what the quarry did

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Which was very cool and a lot less time-consuming is it gave you the option to watch that in the movie mode

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so movie mode it had

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everyone survives everyone dies and then custom and custom allowed you to go into each individual character and

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Set preferences onto how they behave and what they do

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It meant that if you wanted to see different outcomes of different sit of how the game played out

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rather than having to play through it all again and do all the

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Running around and stuff in between cutscenes. You could just watch a

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Movie version of it, which was just all the cutscenes and all the stuff in between cutout which made it a lot

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It made it a lot more entertaining to do that and it gave us more

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Need to go back and watch it because that's what we did. We watched the everyone dies

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Bit and that was like what two and a bit three hours

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Oh, it was hell of my one my one gripe was that you couldn't like fast-forward and

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So you could pause it but yeah, you couldn't you couldn't select chapters in it

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You couldn't just cut to yeah such-and-such which I found quite annoying as well. Yeah

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And I think you can't it was weird there was things that they did differently

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Excuse me, I'm coughing that put them on like a better path if you will and then

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It was a not it was a little bit annoying because I almost wanted to

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There was points in watching the movie mode where I wanted to go right. Let me play it from here then

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You know because because there was there's a particular

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Well, it's which one you think I'll focus about Caitlin. Oh, no

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We'll get there but no essentially

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Much like I mean, it's similar to

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I'm sure I don't if you agree a lot of games like this

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There is a like a moral an expected moral compass, you know that you're to have

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Yeah, they push heavily towards doing the right thing

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Yeah, and then like, you know, and it will say this will have consequences, you know those kind of things

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Yeah, and it was interesting because

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The way we had done it was there's this point where your stuff's locked in a cabin

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And you can either break in or not. I need to cough my moment. I

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Could hear that horrible like pre-coffing

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Excuse me

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You anyway

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I've done my pre-coff

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It's gross and we'd chosen to break in to get our stuff and and it

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Didn't it wasn't till ages later

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That a separate character. It's it meant that they could get to say

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very big because we'd opened that cupboard, sorry that cabin and

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Then we carry on and that that you know, everything happened as it happened

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They were we watching the movie mode and this is on everyone dies mode

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And she said no, I'm not breaking into that cabin and didn't do it

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and then fast forward to the part where these characters need to hide and

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They're now having to bash the door in yeah, because she never did it and it was like this is juicy

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But what it actually did was we didn't think it was related

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Did we at the time when we played through but basically because they bashed and made the noise

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They still got in safe spoiler alert. They still got in safely

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But actually when we played someone else got hurt because the thing that

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Yeah, the thing that attacked him didn't attack him in this one because it had gone to the noise of the breaking the door down

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Yeah, it was like blew my mind

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Yeah, because we couldn't for the life of us figure out because essentially they there's like an infection and a new you have to try and like the characters are trying to fight it off and

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Werewolves is everyone is basically yeah. Well, yeah, it was everyone was being turned into werewolves.

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Yeah, and we we didn't it was only at the end when it came up that essentially this person had been able to

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Help at the end and we didn't have him because he'd become a werewolf

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But we were like, how could we not have like we could not see how it was possible that didn't happen

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Yeah, and it was as far back and as covered up as that like how many different things was incredible absolutely incredible

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Yeah, but it's like Mark killed all of the um hackets

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Who did we leave? We only left Travis

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Travis? No Travis

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And Bobby that was it Travis and Bobby and that's only because you didn't start if you just stabbed Bobby Chris had killed him

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Yeah, Mark Mark killed Bobby by stabbing him. Yeah, and then he Mark killed Travis by not shooting Silas first

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And refusing to shoot and basically you have a squabble with Travis

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And then like he's trying to pull the gun away from you to kill Silas and you end up blowing his head off

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And then I said, well, did you have to fight Silas after and he was like, no, you just get given the option to shoot Silas

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So he shot Silas as well. So you can so he must have he must have been friendly enough with Travis that Travis didn't kill Laura

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When she turned back

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Yeah, yeah, that was another thing Manistah that you that you won't have seen. Yeah, Travis killing um,

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Laura, it was awful stabs her in the face. It's the way the chest

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So she turns back into a person and they're kind of like looking at each other

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But it's the way that he kind of looks at her smiles nods

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Yeah, and then he has this sort of a mirror in his hand. Yeah, and she just stabs the fuck out of her. It's horrendous

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Blows Ryan's head off

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Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah

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Jesus Christ takes his skull off. Oh, it was unreal or even the mum

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Mama Beckett, Hackett. Sorry

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Whatever her name was Constance Constance when she got her face blown off

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But it's like not her whole face just the front like on her face her eyes and shit fucking hell

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It was a gory game man. Everyone got their heads cut off

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Yeah, Abby getting her head ripped off. Jesus Christ fucking but they're

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The werewolves in the game aren't your typical werewolves that you would think of

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Especially the way they transform they shed all their skin. Yeah, well where where where you'd expect someone who turns into a werewolf?

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Through like movies and books and stuff like that. They sort of like hair starts to sprout out of them

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And they slowly like start to turn and and and form into a werewolf whereas no in the quarry is literally people start screaming

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Like vis- visibly in excruciating pain and then they just explode all their skin comes exploding off

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Blood goes everywhere and then they're just ten foot fucking werewolf. Yeah, and then when they transform back

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They're all just covered in their own guts. Oh grim. Yeah

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But a really cool way to put a unique spin on how someone transforms into a werewolf

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They just they just blow up where they are and what I will say for the actual graphics of the whole thing

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Good. Yeah, I

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Immediately, I immediately recognized the actor. Yeah, like I knew it was him straight away

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And then there was two other actors that I knew

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And it was incredible. Like I went on

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What's his name? Miles Robbins played Dylan

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On the pause screen whoever you're playing currently in control of like their face is huge on the screen

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And they're sort of like looking around it's quite cool pause menu. Yeah, quite dynamic and um, and I knew I was looking at him

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And it's not perfect. Like their eyelashes are odd and sometimes I mean Emma's mouth

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Her mouth was huge

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Anyway, and but I'm looking at him and I called up a picture of him on Instagram and they had every single

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Freckle freckle the veins in his eyes the wrinkles. Yeah, because it's incredible. It's all motion captured

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Yeah, and very like detroit with the guy from grazing that yeah. Yeah, but the faces they just can't they cannot get them fucking faces

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Correct, and I don't know how they can't do it when it's motion capture

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Because I thought that would have made it a bit easier to actually capture the faces. I don't know but it yeah

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Emma's mouth was just fucking huge

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It took up like half her face when she'd speak. Yeah, yeah, so it was so fucking shit. So stupid

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Um, and yeah, they were like Travis's eye when we first see yeah, I thought he was having a stroke

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What the fuck is it? I couldn't I genuinely couldn't work out if it was part of his character

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Yeah, that he'd like he's got something wrong with his face because it was just the right side of his face was just

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Like melted ice cream. It was fucked

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It just makes it a bit more funny to be fair. Yeah, but I mean I could sit and replay it now

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Honestly, I could yeah, I think mark mark said he was gonna replay it

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Because there's a couple of bits that because he he pointed out the fact that it gives you the option to go back

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to various chapters and change your

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Actions. Yes, but it affects your save game. Yes. Well, that's exactly what we did. We went back

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We went back

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Three times by the way, he said you're gonna do it three times. Oh, that's annoying. I think I think he's because so how we played it

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Like when we like played it

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genuinely

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I killed emma, but she was getting on my head. So we were going along and then she's doing like a vlog

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And anyway, she goes. Oh, it's incredible. Really really fucking good

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She's like, um, oh, what was it? She could she was like I could look in these bags

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Or I could open the hatch and read my like grizzly death and I was like, okay then open the hatch then and I was not

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Expecting I kind of knew but I was not expect she's like, um, she barely even screams because he's like swiping her apart

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She just grabs hold of her, rips her throat apart. Yeah, and so that was death one and Rita's really like mad

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Um, you were like, oh my god, I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna kill myself

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Rita's really like mad. Um, you weren't you weren't pleased. It's because we were keeping everyone alive

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No, we weren't we were just playing and then uh, uh

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And then yeah, but then you was like, oh we'll go back. We'll go back. No, that's not how we play this

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We deal with the actions the consequences of what we do. Yeah, and um

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And then what happened was the so I hadn't shot it was started off. It was very very focused on all the male

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Characters, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and and they seem to be doing a lot of the you know, it was like

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A girl picked up a stick and then the boys were playing like firing guns. Yeah. Okay

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Not i'm not saying a gender thing at all. I'm just saying that that's factually what happened with the guns

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Yeah, but she didn't fight. No, she was a cutscene though. She wasn't a playable character

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You know what I mean? And that's that's what that's what i'm saying

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The boys were doing the main reason was what happened fucking later on

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I know but if had I had practice on a fucking watermelon, maybe I could have saved me own bacon

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Couldn't I I told mark about it and he was like, how did she fuck it up? No because I hadn't

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I essentially I over corrected but you had massively you went from left all the way to right

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No, you had yeah, I've got it saved. It was like two seconds

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Yeah, yeah about two or three seconds to make a split to shoot a fucking massive werewolf with a shotgun. Oh

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I also I wasn't well i'll give you that

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Anyway, um

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Yeah, and then you just like ripped apart so so she died as well

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Um, why was I saying this?

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Oh anyway, yeah, and then we went back the only thing we've so far replayed other than the movie mode is

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Went back and I wanted reese to do it and he did and you did you did admit it was very difficult

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You said to me you went no that was hard. It was difficult, but I still did it barely. I did it though barely

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But it doesn't matter anyway, but then what we thought was a shot was play on till the end

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But didn't shoot sylas

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sylas and

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my boy, um

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So yeah, we didn't shoot him and he just rips everyone's heads off

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Yeah, I weren't expecting this so there's seconds travis

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Ryan and laura and laura

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Um with with sylas

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I know that a lot of people listeners won't have a fucking clue a lot of people have already turned off. I imagine

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But sylas if you're still listening sylas is the reason why everyone's turned into a werewolf. He's like og

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Werewolf number one. Yeah

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Which is why everyone is why we're trying to kill him to rid us of this curse

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I was not expecting him to be that brutal with everyone that was standing around him because

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you had the option to shoot him and

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I took the shots but purposely missed and that still backfired because our mum still give us the fucking cold shoulder after

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um, and yeah, he just springs up in his werewolf form and

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Straight away bang there goes laura's head straight off

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And then there goes and then and then travis as well just gone

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Oh, well, I don't know straight for the heads. It was laura and travis's head and then um, ryan was already down

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That's what I want to look at because it happened so quick

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But yeah rohova ryan's jaw was missing there, but I don't know how he did it. I don't know how he killed him

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I think he sliced it. I think he like

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Hit it with his hand

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Ripped his jaw off and then he still he was still alive wouldn't he and then he jumped on it when fucking

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I mean ripped in the shreds special mention to the blood that spurts out of laura's eyeball when he

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Smashing that's disgusting. That is disgusting

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And it really as it should be it weren't a scary game though

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Normally with these types of games, there's more jump scares and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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Said this to mark this morning

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And he agreed wouldn't have paid 60 quid for it

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Which is a full which it was the original price for it

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No 35 it was marks limit and i'd agree with him 35 quid I would have gone. Yeah, fuck it 35 quid

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Um, obviously we got it for 21

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um

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But I don't know where they were getting that price tag from

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60 quid just seemed like too much for that type of game because it was only I don't think it was long enough

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We did it in eight hours. Yeah, it weren't it weren't a long game

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Yeah, it's a good game, but not a long game. I mean unless they're they're saying accounting for like, you know

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you can replay it and it would be a different game, but

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Well, then i'm

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No, I don't necessarily think that price point's correct

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So that was the quarry that was the quarry indeed that was very fun

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Did you you brought up about hogwarts legacy last time didn't you with the absolute?

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Heathens

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And the late release on the switch and stuff. I remember you guys talking about that last

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Yeah, but obviously we haven't had a nintendo switch

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Uh fanatics opinion on on hogwarts legacy raging hogwarts legacy again

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If you haven't heard if you didn't listen, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

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um

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hogwarts legacy is

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massively delayed

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on the nintendo switch the xbox

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One and the ps4 but the nintendo switch has got it real fucking rough

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so for

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I think for the xbox one and the ps4 it doesn't release until april april and then for the nintendo switch. It's july

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There's no point playing it on the switch

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Can you it'll be done it'll be done. I have all three. Yep. And so, uh

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Uh warner brothers said that the reason behind these delays is because they are um

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Um trying to figure out how they can get hogwarts legacy to play on all platforms

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because obviously the

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hardware capabilities between the xbox series x and the ps5 compared to its um

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predecessors and the nintendo switch is fucking leaps and bounds

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So there's obviously a lot of work that has to go in

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um for ps4 games to be on the ps5 and vice versa

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Um, and it's just the the nintendo switch has really got the rough end of the stick here because obviously that's a completely different

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Um beast and like ash pointed out they have to figure out a way for to be able to dock it

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And then take it off and make that a smooth transition from telly to switch which I never thought about before

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Because obviously that must take that must take some fucking work because it has to be instant

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And exactly it has to be as smooth as possible. Otherwise, otherwise, i'd imagine you really fucking notice it

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It's a well-known fact that you you know that you kind of accept a drop in performance dropping frame rate that that's that's always been there

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They've never hidden that they've never hidden that but not a massive delay like that. Fuck me

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it's a big ask for up for

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a game of of

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What seems to be that size? You know, it's um, and this is where this is where me and ash had the conversation about

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Is this not a point where maybe nintendo need to look at the switch and go maybe we do need a pro version a more a more

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beefed up version because you can't

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Your this is the type so the the um

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What the requirements are for hogwarts legacy what it demands

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That

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Is going to be the norm for a lot of new games a hell of a lot of new games

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Especially games that are running on unreal engine 5

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so

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Either you you deal with delays for nintendo switch or nintendo does something to beef up the switch so that you don't have to delay it

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Sometimes it just can't happen yet

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It just can't happen yet. If you think like there's computers that exist

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that are

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So incredibly incredibly fast, but they cannot

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exist yet

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Because they are too hot

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To be you know, they they're sat and it will be a computer that would fit on that desk, but it needs a room

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This size just to cool it down to stop the components exploding before they you know, because they cannot process

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They don't have the the physical materials to make something that can withstand that so with the switch you have to

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think about

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For that thing to be more powerful

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But also be handheld so it's light enough. It doesn't it's not to get hot

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It needs ventilation

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You know you you can't if you think how many times you walked in i'm sitting that and i'm resting it on my tummy

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I'm playing it like that. Well, if it's more beefy and it needs three more vents and they're on the bottom

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Well, okay. Well, you can't be sitting playing like that no more. Yeah, you know, and I think there's there's there's

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You got to think about how

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How capable how available?

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Well shit look at the ps5 and you know, they made that thing where it basically

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They couldn't mine the component to

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Do it couldn't they whatever it was it was like they'd run out of the stuff and it's only available every

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Power of many years. Yeah

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Yeah

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Absolutely data mining and shit like that, isn't it?

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You know, and that's that's a big I imagine that was a very very steep learning curve for sony

439
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:29,780
You know, so I don't know. I wonder is it something like that where they just either they're not willing because at the end of the day

440
00:32:29,780 --> 00:32:31,780
They're selling well as they are

441
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:35,940
But this is what is it is it a material based thing or you know

442
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:39,460
They've made a lot of improvement with oled but clearly not enough

443
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:42,740
They kind of obviously just focused on the screen but companies like this

444
00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:47,380
So so massive companies samsung apple nintendo sony

445
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:54,500
Microsoft they these these aren't companies. They're fucking thinking 10 15 20 years into the future

446
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:59,860
They have they will have entire buildings of people who is their job

447
00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:03,620
Is to is to make sure that this company survives

448
00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:08,100
Far into the future for as long as possible. That is their job. So

449
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,860
Nintendo being as fucking huge as they are

450
00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:14,580
arguably the biggest

451
00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:20,980
Must have an idea of what the future holds for them and for the nintendo switch

452
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:26,740
They have to they can't there's no way in hell that a company is incredible with nintendo are

453
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:30,020
Have something like the nintendo switch

454
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:33,220
And are just going oh, this is quite cool. This is good. How it is now

455
00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:36,980
They will definitely have plans in in for the future. Yeah, but you need to be careful because ultimately not you personally

456
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,500
I'll be careful. You need to be careful. Yeah. No, no

457
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:45,380
Um, no, but you know mr. Nintendo or mrs. Um

458
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:47,460
You know

459
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:51,060
The the we you as I think i've said even before on here never mind to you

460
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:54,020
The we you

461
00:33:54,020 --> 00:34:00,420
Should have been you know, it it tanked it nearly took them under

462
00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:04,740
But all the way you is I don't think i've even ever fucking seen what it looks like

463
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:09,300
It looks like a switch with joy cons. You can't attach in a smaller screen and a bit more clunky

464
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:14,100
And all you can and the whole like the advert for I mean, I never had one

465
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:16,900
But the advert for it

466
00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:19,220
The adverts for it

467
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:24,820
Was a kid is playing on the telly as we all used to and then the dad comes in and wants to watch the telly

468
00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:28,180
And it rather than the kid being upset

469
00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:30,660
He just takes up the pad

470
00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:36,100
And changes the thingy and he's playing his game on the game pad

471
00:34:36,820 --> 00:34:39,300
And the dad's watching the telly so he's playing the we

472
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:42,740
The dad is watching the telly and it was essentially like a

473
00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:44,820
You know

474
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:52,340
A baby version a dumbed down a more simple and and clunky version of what became the switch the genesis

475
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:57,700
But it almost took them under you know everyone no if someone even remembers the we you it was either

476
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,700
Oh shit, or oh, I never had one, you know, and and that's something where

477
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:08,660
I feel like their innovation and their willingness to just completely change it up and throw something crazy and new out

478
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:11,140
It almost took them under

479
00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:14,340
You know, it could have you know, it could have done um

480
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:22,340
Because like it was it was it timing was it just the idea wasn't refined enough, but there must be there there must be

481
00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:26,100
Something in the works. How long has the switch been out for?

482
00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:32,500
2017 so it's quite it's it's a long time, but it's not a long time at the same time. That makes sense

483
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,700
It'll be it'll be six years in march. Yeah, so there and

484
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:41,460
And the nintendo switch up until rather recently didn't have a competitor

485
00:35:42,660 --> 00:35:49,060
Did it really in terms of handheld console there have also been two, you know, they've not released nothing

486
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:54,180
You had the switch then you had an improved battery life switch then you had the switch light and then you switch oled

487
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:58,100
They've not done nothing. No, no, no, no, no, they are they're pumping out new consoles

488
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,060
It's just not what you're necessarily doing. It's not what you're doing

489
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:06,260
No, no, no, no, they are they're pumping out new consoles. It's just not what you're necessarily after

490
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:09,220
Yeah, that's that and that's the thing that that I um

491
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:11,940
Would work because I think

492
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:18,100
There's obviously there's a stigma and because marx in the it was or is but he obviously his missus has one

493
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:20,660
in the market for a switch and

494
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:28,180
He said to himself and I had the exact same viewpoint until I until I met you in that he thought that the nintendo switch

495
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:35,300
Which it didn't have the same type of games you could get on a on a playstation which a lot of people I think fall

496
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:42,740
in in in that pit because when you think of nintendo you don't think of red dead or fucking

497
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:48,820
Um elden ring elden ring's not on the switch. Is it no no, um skyrim shit like that

498
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:53,860
You know, I mean, you don't you don't think of the nintendo switch of as having those types of games you think of

499
00:36:53,860 --> 00:37:00,100
Of my fucking kobe and mario, you know the tip appreciate that but yeah, no, but you do you think of the typical nintendo

500
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:02,420
the your time

501
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:03,700
um

502
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:05,700
They're not they're not my cup of tea. So

503
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:07,620
I apologize, but then have you ever played them?

504
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:12,180
No, no, but i'm not going to um because you might enjoy them and then that will destabilize your whole

505
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:19,540
It will destabilize your entire snobby. So what i'm saying is if nintendo want to

506
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:21,940
try and

507
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:25,620
Make it so that people view the switch as another console

508
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:32,020
Compared to all the other consoles out there. They have to be able to have to allow that console

509
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:34,820
to

510
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:39,300
Not only have but be be capable of running at a fairly decent rate

511
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:46,180
A lot of games that are on the xbox and the playstation. Why are you trying to make it fit to be like the others?

512
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:47,940
I'm not

513
00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:49,940
But but neither are they

514
00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:52,340
It would seem are they not at the end of the day

515
00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:55,220
The fact that I can

516
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:58,980
So, you know when we went away the other week, I took that with me

517
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:04,660
And I needn't have plugged it into the telly. I did because I could yeah

518
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:06,260
but

519
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:08,260
I will take

520
00:38:08,340 --> 00:38:14,340
Having a game be they've not said they're not at the end of the day someone somewhere. Well a lot of someones and a lot of somewares

521
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:16,020
thought

522
00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:18,020
and and are still continuing

523
00:38:18,020 --> 00:38:26,340
To put a game like hogwarts legacy on that console. It's just a bit longer. Yeah might be more buggy, but I will take that

524
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:31,700
Over the innovation of the switch which you you you have admitted is incredible

525
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,900
Like it doesn't need

526
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:36,420
to

527
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:39,300
It doesn't need to keep up with them in the same way

528
00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:45,780
It doesn't but you just doesn't your your reaction to hogwarts legacy being delayed until july got to the switch fucking annoying

529
00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:51,540
Like you say gutted. Yeah, so how many games do you have to have that you're really interested in and looking forward to?

530
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:57,780
That have the exact same exact same delays because they have to try and figure out how to put it on a switch because you

531
00:38:57,860 --> 00:38:59,460
can sit here now

532
00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:01,460
and say that you would take the

533
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,380
Innovation of a switch and and deal with the delays but you and I know very well

534
00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:10,660
That and will be included in it, too the

535
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:13,140
gamer

536
00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:17,380
The gamer player base the people that we are the nerds that we are

537
00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:20,260
Don't do well with delays

538
00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:24,660
And you you wouldn't and I could i'll probably talk an absolute bullshit

539
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,780
It's probably the only game on the switch that will be delayed this heavily

540
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:32,500
So this might be an absolutely invalid point, but let's say hypothetically that it isn't

541
00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:34,580
and every

542
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:38,180
Newer generation game that comes out that's also going to be ported onto the switch

543
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:40,500
has a fucking

544
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:44,020
Half two-thirds of a year delay compared to everyone else

545
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:48,980
You'll you'll only put up with that for so long because it isn't fair

546
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,700
It's not fair that you have to wait till july

547
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:58,500
Because how are you going to avoid spoilers and any of that shit you you don't because i've got a ps5. Yeah, we have a ps5

548
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:02,020
Well, it's mine mine is yours. I'll be ridiculous mine

549
00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:06,980
Um, but right but but if I if I wasn't here you wouldn't be able to play it till july

550
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:09,540
No, and that's what i'm saying

551
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:11,860
if every game like that you had to

552
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,660
You had to wait that long

553
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,740
Eventually, you're not going to be happy about doing that are you right?

554
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,860
But and then you'd move on to a steam deck on the one hand

555
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,500
Yeah, but is hogwarts legacy on the steam deck

556
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,340
I think so. Yeah

557
00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:27,780
I don't think it is

558
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:29,620
is it on

559
00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:33,220
I'm gonna have to do a quick google. You will have to do a quick google, but ultimately

560
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:36,020
I don't personally think it's that deep

561
00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:40,020
Because you do at the end of the day nintendo has a lot of exclusives

562
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:43,140
it is mostly catered to

563
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:46,420
You know, it's it's

564
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:50,500
I just don't think that that it's not

565
00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:56,820
My brain has just completely like floated away has not been confirmed for the steam deck yet. Oh, there you go

566
00:40:57,140 --> 00:41:01,860
Probably because they run into the same issues as what switch does you cannot expect?

567
00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:04,820
it's like

568
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:09,940
You know fucking it's like having heelies and a bicycle, you know or a bike and a car

569
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,940
You know, yes. Okay. I'm not going to be able to cycle

570
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,180
to

571
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:17,220
You know

572
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:18,420
glasgow

573
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:19,380
but

574
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:20,900
I can

575
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:22,900
Take that bike on a train

576
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:26,740
Do you know what I mean? Like I can't take my car on a train to glasgow if I want to go to glasgow my car

577
00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:30,260
I've got to drive the whole way there. But if I want you know, I mean something like that like with the switch

578
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:32,740
Yes, it is

579
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,500
nowhere near

580
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:39,860
The hardware capabilities of the playstation 5 but I can't put my playstation 5 in my handbag. No, I know but

581
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:42,740
Where's the change?

582
00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:45,220
What do you mean? Well where where so?

583
00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:47,780
the

584
00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:50,500
The innovation of it the uniqueness of it

585
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:57,700
Can surely only last for so long. You can't just as a nintendo switch owner

586
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:04,740
Nintendo can't just rely on you being happy because this is the only console in the world that can do this forever

587
00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:08,740
No, but it's they got to do something. Yeah, but you're ignoring

588
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:14,820
You're you're actively ignoring all of the games that are built for the switch

589
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:22,020
No, I'm not ignoring the game. What I'm saying is they are always coming out with new titles. Yeah, you don't just have to wait

590
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:23,940
for

591
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,420
For one or two at the end of day hogwalk's legacy

592
00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:31,140
End of day hogwalk's legacy as my knowledge is one of the only ones but wouldn't it be nice

593
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:35,380
If you if every game for the nintendo switch could also run better

594
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:39,940
But it's not it's not noticeably bad

595
00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:46,500
Some of them are like the latest pokemon looks fucking awful. Um

596
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:54,020
Dreamlike valley always crashing always having frames frame issues. No, not always. Yes. I fucking watched it

597
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:59,940
Not always there are some like of course 60 hours into that game and it's not there's games on the switch

598
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,740
that run lower performance than than

599
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,020
Then you know, you and I have had this conversation before

600
00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:09,940
But pointing at you now you're having this conversation before where you admit

601
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:16,500
That all the people that were like, oh god, I couldn't play it because the grass was jottery, you know, you go

602
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:22,100
No, that's bullshit. I don't notice shit like that. Yeah, no, no, no, you don't no, you don't most people don't so it's not that deep

603
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,020
But you can't in a world of of of electronics

604
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:33,060
Gaming electronics is ever ever ever expanding our grade makes you think that they aren't doing something

605
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:39,220
At the end of the day because there's nothing in the fucking pipeline. There's no leaks. There's no nothing. Is there a ps6 leak?

606
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:42,340
Everyone knows there's going to be a ps6

607
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:45,460
So you think that nintendo have gone, uh

608
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:50,260
Never mind. That's done with now. We don't need to make anything else new. Of course

609
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:52,260
They're working on something. Maybe they're just

610
00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:56,420
After five years coming up six. Oh my god, brov. Oh my god

611
00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:02,340
There's literally been two consoles since my son there's been there has been the switch light. There has been the switch oled

612
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:10,100
They got rid of the joycons. They changed the screen. They beefed up the battery. Okay, what else what what else the screen is now?

613
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:12,340
Oh lead. Yeah, they changed the screen

614
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,420
They got rid of the joycons on one of them made it more hand better

615
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:21,700
It is more capable system and then they got a bigger battery for it. What do you want from them?

616
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:25,060
What do you want from that? You made the cat jump down off my lap now. It's a hardware in it

617
00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:28,980
Yeah, what better hardware in it after five years. Oh sweet

618
00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:31,140
sweet

619
00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:33,220
Nibblets. Oh wow

620
00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:35,700
And everyone thought it was just me and ash that argued

621
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:41,080
Well, yeah, because when you're just being insufferable, it's not insufferable. It's a debate. It's a conversation

622
00:44:42,020 --> 00:44:45,300
Yeah, an insufferable one because I just know I don't I don't know

623
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:50,660
No, I don't understand why you don't have a want for the switch to be upgraded

624
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,260
Of course I do. Of course I do. You're not acting like you do

625
00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:59,060
Of course I do but you're ultimately I can't think there's a point of which you're asking too much

626
00:44:59,460 --> 00:45:05,700
What do you mean asking too much? Why there has been it's literally one game

627
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:12,020
Yes, there's been other games that have been delayed but i'm talking about the you know, it's taking hogwarts legacy as an example whereby

628
00:45:12,020 --> 00:45:16,420
The you know the new next gen whatever you want to fucking whoever calls and whatever

629
00:45:17,860 --> 00:45:19,860
Having it in february

630
00:45:19,860 --> 00:45:23,060
And then previous is having it in april and the switch is july

631
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:31,940
Ashes probably bang on it could very very well be something to do with the fact of docking versus undocking. But again

632
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:41,460
So if if they are struggling to accommodate for the ability to take a home console and make it a handheld

633
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,660
fine

634
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:47,540
Because it's it's it's something that

635
00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:51,940
Like I say you you so elden ring

636
00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:57,780
Elden ring and obviously yes, that wasn't on the switch a big boy understandably, but if I could tell you

637
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:04,420
Wait two months three months four months, whatever it is, you know, and you could have had that experience

638
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:08,820
So you wouldn't have had to sit there and wait all day thinking god. I can't wait to get home and play

639
00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:09,940
I really want to get home and play it

640
00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:13,300
I wish I could play it right now because you would have it in your hands and you could be playing it

641
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:17,300
You know now what do you mean?

642
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,020
Well steam deck

643
00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:22,020
You know, you don't own a steam deck

644
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,700
So you can't do that now because you don't own a steam deck

645
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,740
Do you no, right? Yeah. No, thank you

646
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:34,180
But you see I mean or even wow or something. I mean you cannot you cannot expect

647
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:36,340
or rather

648
00:46:36,340 --> 00:46:38,340
Shouldn't be trying to

649
00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:46,340
Force it to fit or like super keep up straight away, you know, like be on par with a ps5

650
00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:50,420
And ultimately four months really isn't that deep?

651
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:56,980
It isn't that deep. I will play it on the playstation 5 because I can if I couldn't I wouldn't and I'd just wait

652
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:58,980
Maybe I won't buy it anymore

653
00:46:59,540 --> 00:47:03,940
Right, but you see what I mean? It's really the fact that you know, you mean it's like you

654
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:08,100
The fact that it's actually going to be able to play it

655
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,740
Is incredible in itself because yeah, it's very cool. It is not

656
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:14,740
anywhere near

657
00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:16,740
the same capabilities

658
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:23,540
But it's not for a console that is five years old four months behind one. That's only a year isn't bad

659
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:26,660
Well, it's not going to look exactly the same

660
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:32,020
Can you come back now ash

661
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:34,580
Please look

662
00:47:35,060 --> 00:47:38,340
I didn't go to the 1975 gig tonight for you. I could have had two tickets this morning

663
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:40,340
What do you mean for me? How much? How much?

664
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:42,340
I could have had two tickets this morning 40 quid each

665
00:47:42,340 --> 00:47:44,340
And who was you going to go with?

666
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:46,900
And who was you going to go with?

667
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:49,860
Well, I was hoping you'd come with me

668
00:47:49,940 --> 00:47:51,940
But I didn't because I knew I was like no

669
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,500
What the pod is important. Yeah

670
00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:57,540
What time was the gig?

671
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,580
Well, they'll be on at nine. Absolutely not where

672
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:04,340
Where the 02? Greenwich

673
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:09,300
Absolutely not. Oh, please. Have you no soul. But anyway, I didn't do it

674
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:15,380
I didn't do it because out of respect and love for you and you like doing the podcast as well

675
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:19,300
I know if you hadn't come just off then I would have said I literally was just said for the podcast as well

676
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:21,380
I'll put your eyes back in your head

677
00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:30,500
Yeah, no, I want to say I usually enjoy doing the podcast no you enjoy this right now this is this is a

678
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:32,980
wholesome healthy debate

679
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:37,060
I just feel to me like you're just picking on nintendo. I'm not picking on nintendo

680
00:48:37,060 --> 00:48:39,700
It does feel to me this way picking on nintendo

681
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:42,740
But nintendo is the one that's behind everyone else

682
00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:47,300
But they're also in front aren't they? Of course they are aren't they? Yes

683
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:51,940
I'm just i'm just very aware of the fact that in order to get to 100 you need one game

684
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:57,620
I one game that they're slightly delayed on exactly. It's one game now

685
00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:04,740
I'm just saying be be somewhat prepared. I can't believe it may happen again

686
00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:09,140
I can't believe and we have it literally recorded you essentially just accused them

687
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:14,580
Of not working on something else. You honestly think they're not working on something else

688
00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:19,700
No, I was I asked you the question. Do you think that they are working on something else?

689
00:49:20,260 --> 00:49:22,260
When was the ps4 released?

690
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:28,980
I can't remember what was the gap of time between the ps4 and the ps5 and don't you be saying about the pro?

691
00:49:29,060 --> 00:49:30,340
They filled it with a pro

692
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:36,580
No, because at the end of the day there's been two two further iterations of the switch way more beefy than the ps4

693
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:41,940
Right, not the point still said ps4 didn't it? Yeah, but it was a pro. No, I want it was a beefed up version

694
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,180
You can have the nintendo switch. What i'm saying is

695
00:49:46,020 --> 00:49:50,520
When was the ps4 released? Pardon me years ago

696
00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:55,140
Oh my phone's on silent. Hang on. Oh, i'll ask him again

697
00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:59,140
When was the ps4 released?

698
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:09,220
PlayStation 4 was the 15th of november 2013. Okay. Jesus christ is that when was the ps5 released?

699
00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:13,060
I found this on the web

700
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:19,060
Uh, oh he doesn't why don't you just answer the question i've answered the question before ask it about the pro

701
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:21,620
When did that come out?

702
00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:27,300
Uh, did it came out in november 12 2020 so seven years

703
00:50:28,660 --> 00:50:35,540
PS4 pro, let's have a look gab keeps ringing me. Oh fancy that manister gab's ringing me now release date

704
00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:44,100
Silence november 10th 2016. There you go

705
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,140
Right years. They brought our beefed up version

706
00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:53,700
Nice, isn't that good? Sorry, but it just wasn't isn't that great. That's good. It's not the next thing though, is it?

707
00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:59,300
Seven years so nintendo i've got another three. I'm not saying that nintendo have to do the next thing

708
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:04,420
I'm saying it would just be no, but you essentially just said that they weren't doing anything. Let's put this to bed

709
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:12,180
I'll put you to bed. I like thank you. I like nintendo bloody bloody bloody no you don't just admit that you don't

710
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:18,260
I do like nintendo. I do it was just never my choice when I was a kid so therefore as an adult

711
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:23,860
You slag the living daylights out of them. No, you come on here pretend to be all nice, but I know

712
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:31,140
You don't like them. I slag fifa and I slag xbox, but even then xbox is warm to me. Um

713
00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:35,060
It was just because I never really fucked around with nintendo as a kid

714
00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:40,180
So it was always a playstation. You had a ds. I had a ds but that's as far as it went and I had a wii

715
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:43,140
And then but that was as far as it went though

716
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,220
so

717
00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:51,620
It would have been different different um story if I was thrown into nintendo, but I just wasn't so I just think it would be nice

718
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:54,340
if they um

719
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,100
Brought out a

720
00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:03,300
Better switch. Yes, it would be nice. It would be nice for the player base

721
00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:06,340
To have to have a more powerful switch

722
00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:08,980
With a longer battery life

723
00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:10,740
Yes

724
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:12,740
I'm just looking at

725
00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:15,940
Has there been any leaks

726
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:23,960
Well, I think when we when we when we went away switch console were given out at some point they said 2025 2024

727
00:52:25,940 --> 00:52:30,580
But yeah, no go on because there was the rumors of the switch pro and then it was put to bed by nintendo

728
00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:33,220
And they said they would not be doing anything until

729
00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:36,260
It was either 24 25. Yeah

730
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:38,260
So it says here

731
00:52:38,820 --> 00:52:43,720
Different ports it currently features a custom nvidia tegra processor

732
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:51,300
A 720p lcd display and 32 gig of storage most recent refresh happening in august 19 to bump up the battery life

733
00:52:51,620 --> 00:52:54,100
Taking it from 6.5 to 9 hours of game time

734
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:59,940
We tested the upgrade using super smash brothers and found the amount of game time we were able to fit in before we needed to recharge

735
00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:01,220
had doubled

736
00:53:01,220 --> 00:53:05,220
The switch pro tipped to offer a 4k output in some form of docked mode

737
00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:10,740
Form of docked mode likely when docked the switch pro. This is obviously guessing. This is a report from bloomberg

738
00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:16,900
The switch pro will have some form of coprocessor to up mix a 1080p video feed into a 4k output

739
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:24,660
Furthermore a newer probe into switch firmware revealed the line 4k dp under preferred under over under

740
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,700
USB 30 that could indicate the potential for a 4k output over a display port over usb 3.0. It's very cool

741
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:36,580
11 developers are in possession of 4k tool kits supplied by nintendo

742
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:41,220
Strongly implying that nintendo is at least thinking about releasing a switch that can output in 4k

743
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:48,820
Although nintendo did release uh quickly release a statement denying the accuracy of the report because why wouldn't you you know

744
00:53:48,820 --> 00:53:50,980
You're protecting your yeah, you do breeze

745
00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:53,620
um

746
00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:56,980
The oled display

747
00:53:57,620 --> 00:53:59,620
How old is this article is it's talking about oled

748
00:53:59,620 --> 00:54:02,020
It's like well, yeah, it does have a fucking oled

749
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:10,520
Or maybe reading a really out there, but you know, I see what i'm like perhaps they're just controlling

750
00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:16,900
The you know the quite possibly and I hope that is the case i've bored you now

751
00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:19,460
No

752
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:21,780
I'm just quenching the thirst of the argument

753
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:26,100
The debate yes, will we ever get a switch pro?

754
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:31,860
Um while it never materialized rumors of a 4k switch won't go away after the switch oled last year

755
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:36,980
Everyone's been waiting baited breath the next upgrade despite the sizable upgrades. It's been five years

756
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,500
Um

757
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:47,220
Well, there will be there will be there has to be otherwise it dies simple as that bang on you're right

758
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:52,660
And I appreciate that I do appreciate what you're saying. I do appreciate what you're saying and that is how adults argue

759
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:55,380
You always resolve

760
00:54:57,780 --> 00:55:04,500
Yeah, oh god, yeah, so much comfort so much more comfy doing it in here

761
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:11,460
We're welcome to do it here. No, I don't think ash would go for it. The dog would rip his fucking legs off as well

762
00:55:15,620 --> 00:55:17,620
That was entertaining

763
00:55:18,260 --> 00:55:19,700
um

764
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:25,940
God, we literally need to really argue. Yeah. Yeah, that's about summed up pretty much. Yeah, i'm embarrassed. Why don't know

765
00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:29,940
That's embarrassed. There's only like 10 people that are gonna hear it. That's true

766
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:32,820
Hi everybody

767
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:35,300
Hi, that's great in it. We've got um

768
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:41,140
Uh, we've got our exclusive episode that we've got to do as well. Yeah, we've promised not to argue

769
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:46,500
Um, I might release this now why?

770
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:50,980
Well, that's a little treat. No, you don't reckon no if you're hearing this

771
00:55:51,860 --> 00:55:53,860
Friday morning

772
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:57,060
I suppose I could schedule it to release for friday morning

773
00:55:58,260 --> 00:56:00,260
Oh cats on your drawer

774
00:56:00,820 --> 00:56:02,020
um

775
00:56:02,020 --> 00:56:04,020
But we'll fucking leave it there then hey

776
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:10,340
Yeah, Steph's done a stellar job at filling in again. It's fantastic. Thanks as always um

777
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:14,420
If you want to catch us on the exclusive episodes

778
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:18,100
Which we do at least 30 minutes after every single episode

779
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:23,300
Go on to patreon.com forward slash. What's the buttons and for a fiverr?

780
00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:28,180
You can get an extra minimum two hours worth of content a month

781
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:30,260
mental behavior

782
00:56:30,260 --> 00:56:35,860
Where we talk about all sorts of random bullshit mark tells us how crap the exclusive episodes are

783
00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:41,940
We come back the following week with adjustments and changes and that's how it's done. Do you like the ones we did?

784
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:45,140
Yeah, yeah, it was just the one where it was me and ash. She said it was absolute shit

785
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:50,500
Well, I think this one this wasn't our best. No, this was the best one. We're ever gonna have you reckon no

786
00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:53,140
No

787
00:56:53,380 --> 00:56:56,900
No, I just want to apologize. I just want to put an apology. Why why?

788
00:56:57,860 --> 00:57:00,260
I don't know. We're put a clickbait title on

789
00:57:01,060 --> 00:57:03,700
We have a massive argument that she storms out

790
00:57:06,260 --> 00:57:07,060
Yeah

791
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:09,860
No, it's good people love it when other people argue they sit on the sidelines

792
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:15,220
And they get to listen. It's fantastic. That's why they love it. That's why fucking everyone wants me to do carry on

793
00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:20,420
That's why they want us to carry on doing the quizzes. Oh, maybe we'll do a quiz for the exclusive episode because I get so fucking irate about it

794
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:25,620
Let's do a quiz for the exclusive episode. If you want to hear the quiz. We've now pay walled it. Yeah

795
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:30,500
No other people listening that wanted to have a quiz you go give me some money and you can hear this quiz

796
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:34,020
Yeah

797
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,100
Excellent. Yeah. All right. Well

798
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:40,580
Um, we're gonna go. I really really need to have a wee that was that cup of tea. Um

799
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:46,500
Thanks for listening everyone if you're still here if you're still here if you didn't switch off because we were fucking arguing

800
00:57:46,500 --> 00:58:06,500
Um, we'll catch you next time catch you next week. Enjoy your weekends and all that bullshit. See you later. Uruh

