Click clack I'm back. The Prince returns. I know it's been a while. I'm sorry.
A month? It's been four weeks.
Yeah it's been a long time.
Four entire weeks everyone thought you were gone.
But I'm back. I'm here to bless you with the beauty of my vocal chords once more.
Spider-Man 2?
Yeah yeah. What do you mean? Why are you looking at me like that?
That's grim. The lists are back by the way.
The lists are back. The lists returns.
Yeah.
So.
Steph hasn't disappeared by the way. I have no doubt that we'll hear her voice again.
Absolutely. We'll get to that. This is my start of the show. So can we just leave it?
Alright? You're not pushing me about. I've heard you.
What do you mean?
Steph just let's you get away with murder.
What do you mean?
They're just shitting over all her games.
She listened while you sent me that voice note.
Shitting over all her games. And she's so pleasant to you.
What do you mean?
And you just let her. You just talk over her. She's so quaint and just. Yes Rhys I understand.
She had her platform. You're talking shit.
To the point where after your voice note her sister come in and said are you okay? Because
she was listening to you just ripping me a new one for no fucking reason. She had her
platform. You know what I mean? I named the episode after Dreamlike Valley. Ridiculous.
Go on get your fucking shit out of the way.
Nobbed.
Mental.
Welcome back to me anyway. I know this is what people have missed is my sweet tones.
But yes I thank Steph very much. She's done a fantastic job. Arguably much better than
me. Definitely better than you. So yeah. She will be back for sure.
I prefer doing it with her. 100%.
Thanks very much.
It was nice.
That's good.
I said to her I was like to get rid of confusion. She should change the logo and get rid of
you and replace it with her. And then when there's an episode with her we put that on.
And she decided and I also thought the same thing that that would be really mean. Because
that would just feel like you're being proper pushed out.
I mean I don't want to make a big deal out of it but I pretty much built this.
What do you mean?
It was my idea.
What do you mean?
You've got.
It was our idea.
This is what I mean let me finish. I started first. Okay? My idea.
Right.
I pitched it to you. You become on board. Then you bottled it. Even in the kitchen. We're
talking about it and even then you're saying are we actually going to go through with this?
I bought everything. What are you on about?
Let me finish. I can't believe we're actually going through with this. Are we actually having
the conversation? And then he's giggling like a little school girl while we're writing down
ideas.
You are talking shit.
No these are facts. These are facts. I come up with the name after I wrote about 400 names
down. Yes you bought the gear. But I also paid my part. You didn't buy it yourself.
We both. We both. We both. Look at the red rings.
Also. Also. I pushed you to do it. Because I was like well let's order it now then.
What do you mean? You're talking bollocks.
I said let's order it today. And you were like order it today? What now? Like right
now? I was like yes because if we don't do it now we won't do it at all. And these are
facts and I swear on my kids that they are facts and if you deny it you're a liar.
You're talking shit.
Facts.
Because you said to me look we need to keep doing this every single week otherwise if
we miss one week I'm not going to come back. So it's been me that's been fucking pushing
this forward. Me.
Sorry I've been coming here even when you know full well I haven't been. I ain't been
up to scratch.
After I give you options to not come here.
Yeah. Yeah. And then you gave me an option and said.
And then you took liberties. Took liberties for three episodes.
I'm pretty sure if you go into your house now and realise the quarantine zone it has
become that it's fully aware that I was not fit for purpose. Yeah.
Everyone at home is ill except for me.
And no I can't get blamed for that because I've been long gone. I was ill. I was on nights.
Then I got ill. I shit everywhere. I shit in the bath. I was that ill I shat in the
bath.
What do you mean?
Did I not tell you?
What? Why are you having a bath?
I was having a bath. After I had been sick and I had shit. The next day I was in the
bath and I farted and it went on. It went on for ages. It was like.
I was like wow. But then I thought how that was a wet fart. And then I thought how have
I had a wet fart in the bath. Yeah. And then I looked down and there was shit everywhere.
Here I.
And when I mean everywhere I mean everywhere.
Why is it all shuddered?
Because it's shit. It's not supposed to be in the bath. So then I called Gem and I was
like Gem I've shit in the bath.
Why are you? You're a grown man.
Yeah but I didn't know what to do. I'd never shit in the bath before. So then she just
said get out and hose it down. I'll come and disinfect it and stuff.
So that's how ill I was. And then after that I got ill again. I got tonsillitis.
People should have paid for this.
Mate I've been ill as fuck.
Well I'm back now. But we've gone right off topic. Thank you Steph. From me. From me.
Not from you. From me. Thank you very much. You've done a stellar job. I really enjoyed
listening to it. I thought you'd done a fantastic job. We definitely need to get you on when
there's all three of us here so we can discuss Zelda.
Well I can't discuss it can I because I'm out of that equation.
No but I'd like to talk about Zelda. And yeah thanks. What a great job. You're natural.
You're a complete natural. So kudos to you. And I certainly enjoyed the Hooroo. I was
a big fan of that.
So you were very excited to be there.
I was excited. I couldn't believe it when she said it.
It was very good.
I was even with my mate because we were on night shifts. I looked at the time while we
were driving and I was like a few minutes left. I was like I wonder if she's going to
say Hooroo. And then literally like two minutes later then you started saying can I say it.
I was like aha yeah come on come on come on. Get it out. It's funny. Anyway yeah I'm back.
Thanks. Thanks maggots for all your money. I've been watching it tote up while I've been
laying in the bath in the shitty bath.
Old exclusive episodes. They're all right to be fair.
Yeah. Yeah. I banged on a couple of them. Decent. Decent. I like doing that. It's a
shame there's not like an option on Spotify to like add it in but it's locked. Yeah you
have to go through a Patreon. I like fucking messing it doing it all like that. But. But.
Fairly simple. Good fun. It's good fun.
So it's done me. Welcome me. Now you have to embrace me. Reading the list. I can't believe
you shat in the bath. Yeah. And now love me. I've changed. Explain. So I've changed since
I've been gone. I've got new clothes. He looks very dapper. I look dapper. He normally comes
out of the van. He looks like shit. Got decent hair now. Don't look like a square no more.
Show me that. I will once this is off. I'm not going to do it now am I. Just take it
off and show me quick. It's getting long. What do you mean.
Then you have to wait. All right. No more square head. I look double decent now. I'm
a beard trim. Going for the Viking look. That's Prince Squarehead. Yeah that one. Ha ha. But
most importantly I've stopped drinking coffee. I've started drinking Red Bull. Yeah this
is bollocks. Don't start saying that like it's a good thing. You've stopped drinking
coffee. You've basically gone. I've stopped doing cocaine. I'm now doing heroin. The worst
thing is I haven't stopped drinking coffee. This should be my second Red Bull in like
three days so it doesn't matter. So why are you saying it like it's a new you. Because
it is new me. You had two in three days. What do you mean. I don't normally drink Red Bull.
I've added something to my life. But most importantly while I've been away I have become
a champion of the Paldira region and I am a Pokemon master now.
This guy's a rocked up today and he's got his Nintendo Switch with him stroking the
case. Is that a Pokemon case or is that just a Switch case. No I think this is a Super
Mario special edition Nintendo Switch. He's rubbing the case like there's some sexual
affection there and then he's pulled his phone out. What do I hear. It's Pokemon Go. And
then I go and make a cup of tea and I come back in the studio and what's he doing. He's
got his Switch open and his phone open at the same time. He's got loads of Pokemon around
here. Loads of cool Pokemon around here. Yeah. That's exactly what I did. We know. We know.
I don't know why this is a surprise to you. Because I wasn't expecting it. I've got loads
of Japanese friends as well now which is cool because I caught a very cool Pokemon. They
invited me to a raid yesterday just on a whim. It was just like do you want to join in this
raid. I was like yes. Clicked on it. Smashed the life out of his Pokemon. Oh it was shiny
as well. The odds of that happening. Minuscule. So gassed. Absolutely gassed. I love it. I
love it. I'm all over the Pokemon. We'll get into it. NerdBase just posted loads of
Pokemon Go Pops. Very interesting. We'll get into it anyway. Well we're going to get into
it right now actually. So back story on Pokemon. I haven't played a Pokemon game in many years
but the only ones I really liked was when I was a kid. So like red and blue and yellow.
Is that it? Yeah well I played more of the more recent ones on like silver, gold. But
I don't know what ones they were. I'm trying to think. Me and Clarky had ones. Pokemon
Diamond. Oh you got some real good ones man. Yeah Diamond and Pearl and all that. What
was the ones. Can you name the Nintendo systems? Like the handhelds. What? What like Game Boy?
DS? Yeah DS. 3DS. DS Lite. What was the one after the DS? 3DS? Yeah after that one. Oh
mate. We need Steph. Steph! Help! Come back! It's just a steak. Bringing him back. Yeah
we had one anyway. I played a couple of the Pokemons. I don't know what ones they were.
I have a list of the Pokemons if you'd like me to read them. Yeah but I still won't be
able to tell you what ones I had but you can go for it. You got red, blue and yellow. Smashed
all three of them. Hey You Pikachu. Didn't fuck with that. Pokemon Snap. Pokemon Pinball.
Pokemon Gold and Silver. Pokemon Play It. Pokemon Stadium 2. Pokemon Crystal version.
Pokemon Stadium was hard on 64. Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire. Pokemon Channel. Colosseum.
You got Fire Red and Leaf Green. X and Y. Some Y in it. XD. I think that one might have
been Wii U. Maybe. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. That was a cool one. Did you ever play that?
You had to fill out a questionnaire at the beginning and it would give you a Pokemon
based on your answers and you'd just run around as the Pokemon and get loads of friends of
other Pokemon beating the shit out of stuff. It was good fun. Should have taken off more.
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. That might have been one I played. Battle Revolution. Mystery
Dungeon again. You got Pokemon Platinum. Which was 2008. That seems like it weren't even
that long ago. Heart Gold. Black and White. I'm skipping out like all the other ones.
That don't matter. Black 2 and White 2. Don't know what the fuck that is. It just remakes
them of the original ones. X and Y. There's a fucking lot of them. Omega Ruby. There is
loads. They basically come out as often as FIFA. Ultra Sun. Blah blah blah. Sword. I
played Sword. Sword is the last one I played. Sword and Shield. 2019. Pokemon Sword. That's
fairly recent. Really really like that one. I can tell you actually. I think I've got
that one. And then the latest is Scarlet and Violet. And Zip in his case. Yeah I've got
that one. Yeah you've got it. Have you not played it? I played it but I can't remember
anything about it. I never finished it. This is my point that I'm making. What's the point
that you're making? Put the fucking switch down. I'm putting it back in its case. Muggle.
So my point that I'm making is. I smashed the life out of red, blue and yellow when
I was a kid. It's all we played constantly and I never got bored of it man. I finished
it. I'd start a new save. It'd be the same shit. There's no end game in them. It was
just the same shit. Over and over again. And it never bored me. When you're a kid things
are different man. You don't get bored like you do as an adult. So yeah I smashed them
and then as the years have gone on and I've got older and I ain't even had time. I've
never really put much time into it. But more so the fact that all the new Pokemon they
added. I was just like OG Pokemon. Squirtle and Bulbasaur and all them ones. I don't really
vibe with the newer ones. But now we're on like I think the Pokemon in the latest Violet
and Scarlet are like Gen 9. So it's like 9 generations of Pokemon. Yeah some weird names
now. I don't know how they keep coming up. Yeah there'll be like a turtle with a rock
on its back and it'll be called Turt Rock. I mean they've got to get new fucking writers
or something and it's pathetic. You've got to come up with better names than that. That
is literally the sort of thing we're going with. It's embarrassing. But yeah so I'm catching
up like there's Pokemon in there from like older generations. Generations that I know.
Generations that I missed. And the newest ones. So I'm trying to like learn as many
as I can. And obviously like I said to you privately. On Pokemon Home now you can transfer
Pokemon from Pokemon Go into Pokemon Home and then transfer them into your games. So
like your Pokemon can like come with you through multiple games now. So you can like be like
you could I don't know for example you could have a Squirtle that you've had for 10 years
and he's gone through three mainline games with you. And you're not evolving him you're
just keeping him a Squirtle with all his moves and that. Oh are you one of them? What? You
don't evolve. No I'm just saying that's what you could do. You could if you wanted to.
And it's just cool that you'd be like oh I smashed the last two games with him and you'd
have like memories catching him at your house in the garden on Pokemon Go like 6 years ago.
And it's a pretty cool system. I think there's still work to do as it's the biggest IP in
the world. What they could create as to what they do create is embarrassing. As I heard
you say on a previous pod that you weren't too keen on it and it looked shit. Whilst
I echo your sentiment it's actually fucking amazing. Poor to look at granted. It doesn't
look good and it's performance isn't fantastic. There's a lot of specular. There's a lot of
talk on how it looks like we said. Rightly so. When you've got Breath of the Wild on
the Switch. The Nintendo Switch isn't a slout when it comes to gaming performance. It's
there to do a job and it does it very very fucking well. So much so that you get things
like the Steam Deck that obviously aren't on the Switch. But it's definitely it's another
handheld console. It's it's Switches sat on the very very tippity top of the handheld
console game for a long time and it deserves to be there. And there are some seriously
nice looking games out on the Switch. So whenever I've seen anything of the new Pokemon I can't
understand why it looks so shit. Not the game itself but graphically why it looks so waff.
I don't get it. It's very poor. It runs quite poorly but luckily in Pokemon's favor it's
not it's not a game that relies on on FPS. So no I know I know. So what actually happens
is it's got an interesting system built into it where if you're looking at something whatever's
behind you 180 degrees is not there. Yeah I know a lot of games do it but this is different.
So and the closer you are to something the smoother it is. The further away you back
up from something the more the frames drop. So if you if you're looking at a windmill
on there and you're up close it will be 30 frames a second. The more you back away it
will literally drop down to like six frames a second and it will look like because it's
trying to save on its like processing power because the Switch hardware is old man it
is old. It really is. There is only so much that they can do with it. The way I look at
the Switch is I wish and I hope it continues in the way it does because it's not for me
it's not built for things like oh Doom coming to the Switch. It's not built for things like
that for me. It's not it's built for Animal Crossing and Zelda's and Pokemon's and Mario's.
It's not built for The Witcher 3 because The Witcher 3 is on there. I would never in a
million years dream of playing The Witcher 3 on there. Yeah but you're also someone that
has an Xbox and a PlayStation. Granted. That's true. There'll be fucking thousands of people
that would just want the Switch. I didn't even know those types of games were on the
Switch. Yeah you're right. I was somewhat sitting in the same camp as you thinking yeah the
Switch is for Mario and things like that because to my own detriment I'm educated on what the
Switch actually is. So yeah but I sort of agree with you and at the same time I don't.
I sit on the fence with it where I would much rather play something like The Witcher 3 or
Doom or them bigger games on a PlayStation. But is that because it's just what I've grown
up with? That's what I'm used to? Would it be the same answer if I'd grown up with a
Switch in my hand? I don't know. But I definitely agree with you on the fact that the hardware
in the Switch, they can only do so much of it. I'm surprised that they're not, obviously
they brought the OLED, the latest version of it. Why they haven't decided to bring out
a beefed up version like the Switch Pro or something like that. You know what I mean?
I'll tell you why the games like Doom and The Witcher and I don't think should be on
there. You're right in terms of there'll be people that only have a Switch. I'm in a privileged
position where I've got all three of the newest consoles. But people that aren't and can only
choose one, they choose the Switch. Yeah, they should be able to enjoy the games as
well. But the difference being games like Doom and The Witcher, for example, the controls,
I've got Fortnite on there and it's all right. I played it when I was at Centre Parks. But
to have like the fine aiming and stuff. Apex Legends is horrible on the Switch. You can't
do it on them little Joy-Cons. You haven't got the precision. And you can say, we'll
use the Switch Pro controller, which I have. But the input lag on the Switch Pro controller
is far too much. You can't play. It's night and day compared to the PlayStation X-Box.
I think the Switch is fantastic for what it does with the Mario's and the Zelda's and
the Pokemon's and stuff. But I don't think it's got, it hasn't got the hardware capabilities
to keep up with the performance of what these games need to be on. Like it's got No Man's
Sky on there now. That's a cool game to play. Would it be good on Switch? I don't know.
Would it run well on Switch? I wouldn't like to say so.
Very difficult until you play it. So I got, according to a new podcast from Digital Foundry,
shout out to whoever they are. The updated Switch Pro was cancelled. And not to expect
the next generation hardware in 2023. Digital Foundry's John Lineman claimed that the Switch
Pro was cancelled at the last minute by Nintendo in 2021. This was revealed during their supporter
Q&A. Why would you cancel that? Why would you cancel a Pro? Because there's only so
much, there's only so much that you can do with it without upgrading it. That's why X-Box
do it. That's why PlayStation do it. That's why PCs do it. Because eventually you have
to upgrade your system to, when we've spoken about this before, and we will speak about
it later on when we talk about Hogwarts legacy, you can only keep up the pace for the people
at the back for so long until everyone else is suffering for it. At some point you have
to let the people that are falling behind go. I make it sound like actual people, but
you know what I mean? That you can't keep catering to a lesser system requirement because
you have to, to compensate for everyone. Eventually you have to start cutting certain things out
and then you'll get to a point where it's no longer an issue and it constantly recycles
itself. So I don't understand why you wouldn't have a...
I think they should be looking by now to release the next iteration of whatever it is they
want to do because it came out in what 2017? I'm pretty sure it was like 2017. I bought
it on a whim. I was working and I was like, oh, the Switch come out today. I went on Argos
website and they had some in stock and I was like, fuck it. So I bought one and then there
was like a shortage. I didn't realise. I didn't even know it was coming out. And I think the
perfect time to release one would to coincide with Zelda next year. If you release a new
set... You're all right, 2017.
Yeah. So you release a new Nintendo Switch bundle with the new Zelda. People will lap
that up. Yeah, of course they will. People are going
to lap it up anyway. Yeah, of course.
I just don't understand why because the Switch is so massive. Nintendo aren't going anywhere.
They just aren't. They're the biggest. They're still the biggest.
They're a fucking powerhouse and the Switch itself isn't going to be going anywhere. But
why you wouldn't then throw as much investment as you possibly can into the Switch to get
another version of it out there? I don't get that.
Why would they keep selling them? Why would they? They're selling them. They're still
the highest selling console. Why do they give a monkeys?
Oh, well. They sell more than the PS4, PS5 and Xbox.
Yeah. And I think COVID probably helped that a
lot, but they did. Massively.
They're still the biggest. Because they're like the Japanese market and stuff. They're
huge, man. They're massive. And they're not for everybody. Because they do cater more
to not certain type of gamers like colorful Zelda, Mario's.
They're running on the anime side of things. Platforming and stuff. A lot of people nowadays
just want to play twin stick shooters. They want to play Call of Duty. They want to play
FPS's. They want to play fast paced games. People that want to play platformers. Normally
of a certain age. I grew up on platformers, so I love a bit of Mario. People nowadays
not really too bothered about platform games. But I think the people that grew up with them
sort of games and people like Steph and that, they appreciate them sort of games, but they're
really not for everybody. I think the main reason Switch is selling
point is like Steph said on the last episode, Animal Crossing massively benefited from COVID.
And now those people don't fucking touch it anymore. You go through Steph's friends list
on a Switch and it's like hasn't been on for X amount of days because it was just a fad
that people grew out of. Pricks.
It's done very well for them. But I'm interested to see what Nintendo's next movie is. But
yeah I do think, I'm surprised that they haven't what are planning on doing something new for
the new Zelda because is it running on the same engine? Because it's a massive undertaking
to do another Zelda and for it to be as successful as Breath of the Wild was under the same hardware.
On the same hardware. Very, very difficult to do that.
Very difficult. We'll wait and see I guess. It's an exciting
time. A lot of good games coming out next year man. Jesus Christ.
Some decent shit. Yeah boy. I saved a lot of holiday. All for
the good of the pod. Not for my own benefit of course.
For content. Yeah of course. I think the first big hitter
for me is going to be the new Star Wars game. I thought you were going to say Starfield.
I think Star Wars comes out before Starfield. You've got Starfield, Legend of Zelda, Forspoken,
Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo 4, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Redfall, Suicide Squad, Dead Island
2 is going to be cool, Assassin's Creed Mirage, there's fucking loads. Woe Long, I played
a little bit of that on the beta. I think that could be quite cool. Atomic Heart. We
have quite a lot of interaction with the people that make Atomic Heart. Where else have we
got? There's fucking, there is loads. ARK 2, that'll be another massive one. Dead Space.
ARK 2. Yeah. Avatar. They're going to try and make another Avatar game. There is some
serious shit that will all be pushed back. Spider-Man 2. Sons of the Forest. I know Spider-Man
2 is on the list. Destiny 2 Lightfall. That's when Ash will come on the podcast and say
that he's found his love for Destiny again and then two months later he won't be speaking
out here whatsoever. You say that but the new season's out and I have not even touched
it. Not once. Payday 3. All me and Manus will be on that one. Fucking love Payday. We love
that game so much. Yeah, there's some real decent shit that's coming out. I think Mark
played a bit of the forespoken beta that PlayStation released. Like a limited time thing and he
said it weren't in his cup of tea. He weren't really a fan of what it was. Can't really
say much on that. I never got around to actually playing it. I've seen a lot of people say
that they're not excited for it. They played it. It doesn't feel great but then normally
the games that come out and wow people. They always go, oh no, it's not good and then bang,
here it is. Yeah, true. Diablo 4 would be an interesting one. Oh yeah, I'm gassed for
that. I love Diablo 3. Yeah, Diablo 3. But then they got to recoup a lot of player base
from when they released Diablo Immortal. They turn off a lot of people, man. Yeah, but people
still go back to the... It's different, isn't it? It's not a... They've already got half
the WoW community on it because they brought out a special mount that you can only get
for like four WoW through pre-purchase in Diablo 4. I almost did it but it's like 60
quid. I was like, is it really worth it that much? Is it really worth it? It looks fucking
sick but yeah, I've seen quite a few people running around on it. So you just know that
they've spent the dough. Well, we may as well go on to Spider-Man 2 since you mentioned
it and then... It's not even on this list. Well, it's only got announced the other day
but yeah, it's coming in 2023 which is very, very, very exciting. I don't know. Did you
play? You didn't play them, did you? Spider-Man is not my cup of tea. Well, it's... Spider-Man
1 or just Spider-Man for PS4 and Spider-Man Miles Morales. Absolutely incredible games.
Whoever you like, Spider-Man or not, it's still just a fantastic game. This one, I still
don't really know exactly what it is. In the trailer, it showed Spider-Man and Miles Morales,
obviously both in separate games. Both standing next to each other. Yeah. And then Venom appearing.
Fall 2023. Very exciting times for that. But they're also Insomniac who are making or have
made Spider-Man, who are making the new one. They're also making Wolverine, aren't they?
So yeah, when's that coming? What's that entail? That looks violent as well. That looks like
a serious tone. And this Spider-Man 2 is only for next for current gen as well. Exactly.
So we're going to start seeing some more of that, which is exciting. Speaking of Spider-Man.
Wolverine doesn't have a... Have you seen... Whoever you like, Spider-Man. Have you seen
any Spider-Man films and stuff? Yeah, I've seen a few of them. Have you seen Into the
Spider-Verse? No. That is good. I've heard good things about that for years and I've
never watched it. Wait, is that the one where all three of them end up meeting up? It's
like, no, no, that's like the newest film. I'm talking about like it's a cartoon film.
Oh no. But it is like one of the highest rated films of many years. It was mad. It just come
out of nowhere, bang, and it was huge. But yeah, I watched it. I like Hedge Runners.
It's nuts. It's so good. It's such a good film. Oh my God, it's good. You should watch it.
Maybe I will. I probably won't, but I can say maybe I will. I say you pound back that
Red Bull. I'll take it. I'll take the maybe. Right. Well, Mark's just doing a run for it.
It's his first time playing Dying Light 2. Sick game. Always in for a little lovely one.
They're so underrated that game, man. So underrated. Such a fantastic game. Me and him, we fucking
love Dying Light. I was so shocked that he hadn't actually played Dying Light 2 yet,
but he got it for Christmas. He's playing it. Yeah. Fucking sick game. What are you doing?
What? You've got to change a little juice in your vape pen. This looks so wet when people
do it. Well, I like to commentate on it. What juice is that you're putting in it? What is
that? Fucking fairy bubble gum assholes. What is it? What flavor? What flavor? What flavor
is that meant to be? I'm not promoting them until they sponsor us. Yeah, but you can just
give a flavor. What is it like? Strawberry watermelon. Strawberry watermelon. Ribbit.
Pardon me. Great. He's back. He's back. Hogwarts Legacy. Me and Steph watched about two hours
or something on it. Not a lot of it went in apart from the fact that... So there's the
different editions. You know about the Dark Arts. I know. Fuck all. So if you want to
talk Harry Potter. No, Dark Arts is basically like the evil side. Like the Forbidden Spells
and all that shit. There's a Dark Arts arena where you can test out all the spells and
stuff and you can learn rotations and all that shit. It's only available if you buy
the Tippity Top edition. That's disgusting. Of Hogwarts Legacy. That's fucking disgusting.
I don't like that. I couldn't... I don't like it. It's fucking disgusting. I never thought
I was talking about it. I think I misunderstood it because I was saying this because I thought
it was you couldn't touch any Dark Arts stuff without purchasing the best edition. And I
thought that's horrendous because you put a paywall on something that will completely
change the way the game feels because you can essentially be evil. But I think I am
wrong and it is just you still have access to all the Dark Arts shit, but the arena to
test it all out freely and whenever you want, you have to pay for it and you get cosmetics
and stuff like that. I don't like the idea of that. I think that's a bit of a cheeky
one. I don't know why you couldn't just fling it all in the same fucking thing. But the
main thing that got us... Well, got Steph more annoyed than it got me is I looked at
the release dates. The release dates. Right? So Hogwarts Legacy, if you buy the ultimate
edition, you get 72 hour early access to the game. Now you could almost complete it in
fucking in three days. So that's quite a big early access. And that comes out... Was it
February? I think it was like the 12th of February. I thought it got delayed. Was it
delayed till February? Well, listen to this. So 10th of February is when it comes out.
Now that is on the PS5, the Xbox Series X. And I think that's it. Maybe PC. I think.
For PS4 and the Switch and the Xbox One, they have to wait until April the 4th. Right? Sorry,
scratch that. PS4 and Xbox One have to wait till April the 4th. Switch have to wait till
July to get it. Steph is fuming about it. Why? That doesn't... Absolutely fuming. I
tried to search it up and it's basically a hardware issue by the sounds of it, which
ties in very well to what we were just talking about. So the people that make Hogwarts Legacy
or are making it... Who is it? Is it Warner Bros? Yeah. Same people that made... That make
the movies and all that shit. Yeah, but they made the Lord of the Rings game. Shadow of
Mordor and Shadow of War. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good games. Yeah, yeah. Very good games.
So yeah, it's a hardware issue by the sounds of it. So they need more time to make it so
that it will... So you can play it on the previous consoles and the Switch. Now, is that not
a little kicker for what is to come in terms of if you want to be able to release games
for current gen and previous gen, you might start seeing more and more of these types
of delays. Well, this is exactly what I've mentioned on the pods before. There's people
saying, developers saying that, or a developer specifically, I can't remember, I saw on Twitter
and he put a thread out, it's very interesting read about how that the Xbox Series X or S,
which one is the lower version? S, the S. I think it's the S. That is holding back gaming
because it's less powerful. So, and people underestimate... It's much smaller and like
half the price. People underestimate, and this is my personal opinion, people underestimate,
I've proved myself and don't even pay it any mind, that when you create a game, this cross
platform, the undertaking that is, because not everything is created equal, but everything
can play... Just because there's a brand new PlayStation, brand new Xbox, and they both
look very good, they're not the same. They're completely different. But to us, the untrained
eye, they're just brand new consoles, they look the same, which one do you prefer? But
there's so much more under the hood that matters. So when they're creating a game and you feel
they have to create for PS5, Xbox Series X, the lesser version, the Series S, the PS4,
the PS4 Pro, the Nintendo Switch, all these different... They've all got their own kinks
and... You're asking for a lot because we say...
Sorry, there's a reason why PlayStation games, God of War, Spider-Man, these exclusive games,
Ghost of Tsushima are so phenomenal, because they're created on one platform. You know
how much difference that must make.
Yeah, because even down something simple like the laptop I gave you and this laptop in front
of us now, this will run anything AAA at a steady... Depending on the game, but it will
run at a steady 140 frame, which is more than enough. Your laptop can probably run the same
AAA games, but it will not run them nearly as smoothly as that will. So, again, exactly
what you mean. So, Hogwarts Legacy, you want Hogwarts Legacy to play the same. Graphically,
it's not going to look the same, but you want it to play as smoothly on the PS4 as you do
on the PS5, because it should do. And like you've just said, that must be so fucking
difficult to do that because you have to completely retune it, which is why they've had to delay
it so late, especially for the Switch, because the Switch being decent for what it is and
powerful for what it is, it is nowhere near as powerful as something like a PS5. It just
isn't. It's not going to be. It doesn't take away from Nintendo Switch at all, but it's
just not. So, it must be such a ball ache for Warner Brothers to make it so that that game
is going to run smoothly and effectively on the Switch, on the PS4, on the Xbox One. Yeah,
it must just be a fucking nightmare. And I think I can completely understand Steph's
anger, because she's annoyed by it, because she's really excited for it. So, what I've
said I'm going to do, I'm going to buy it. I want to play it, but I'm not massively excited
about it. She can fucking play it first on the PS5, because if you're having to wait
till July, so best part of what, like six months to get it, well, it's going to be done.
You know what I mean? You could-
You do well to avoid spoilers.
Yeah, to avoid spoilers for that long, all the Easter eggs and shit, because it will
be all over the place when it releases.
You think when you create a game like that, say Hogwarts Legacy for example, you've got
to take into mind, right, it's going on the Nintendo Switch, so how does it look docked?
How does it transition when it's undocked? How is that looking? How does it perform?
Right, it's going on the PlayStation 5, right, so now we've also got to include trophies.
We've also got to include the haptic feedback for the controllers.
We forget about the docking aspect of the Switch, because that is such a clever idea
and one of the main selling points of the Switch. It's why Steph's always said, if I
was to get a Switch, she won't let me get a light. I have to get one that I can dock.
Oh yeah, no, 100%, you want it like that, yeah.
The programming behind that must be fucking unthinkable. Like you just said, it's a very,
very good point. They have to make that somewhat seamless. You dock it, it's on your telly,
you pull it out of the dock, it's straight on your Switch, it's in your hands. So there
must be a whole fucking department to figure that one out and that must only get more and
more difficult the more and more demanding these games become.
So you've got that, you've got the haptic feedback for the PlayStation 5 controllers,
you've got the trophies you need to add and also on the PlayStation, you have to add the
little gaming help cards that no one uses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not something someone can just do in an afternoon.
Yeah, no, someone's had to sit down and do all of that.
There's mountains of stuff and that's why it's such an undertaking to put on multiple
consoles and that's why quite often when you watch a review of a game, it will say, oh,
8 out of 10, really good. Not so good on the Xbox where it suffered performance issues
or vice versa or any other console for that matter.
Cyberpunk really bad on the PS4, fine on the PS5.
Exactly, The Witcher 3, oh, it's really struggling on the PC for whatever reason because it's
so hard to optimize for every possible outcome.
Creating a game is obviously a far more undertake, huge undertaking than we'll ever understand
as it is.
You add all them facets into the mix.
Mental, absolutely crazy.
But then that's Hogwarts legacy, that's Warner Brothers, that's their problem.
If it's not ready to release on everything, they shouldn't release it.
That's just facts.
That's never happened before.
But again, is that this is what I'm saying, is this a little peep into the future of releases
in terms of, like we've sat here and said, it has to become a point where eventually
you'd think that, say this kept happening for the next five years, every game that was
coming out that was going to be on every single console had to be delayed six months because
the Switch, it couldn't perform on the Switch or the Xbox One or the Series S. There has
to be a point and outcry from the people that are on the current gen consoles to say, cut
them loose.
There would have to be because you can't, you can't as a, if you want to develop as
a games developer, as someone that brings out games and makes money and that's what
it is, is mainly profit.
You want to keep rolling out profit.
You're going to have to keep, you know what I mean?
I think I'm rambling a bit, but you have to eventually, you're not releasing shit for
a PS3 anymore because you've got a PS4.
At some point the PS3 stopped and the PS4 will stop.
And this is why Nintendo have to do something with the Switch because it can only go on
for so long until the Switch won't be able to cope with new games that are coming out.
You think Unreal Engine 5 shit, some of that stuff's fucking mental to a point where even
the PS5 is going to struggle to run it.
So a Switch is going to have no fucking hope.
So you're missing out on it.
Exactly.
Until you bring out a beefier version of it.
There's something else that Nintendo need to get sorted is their customer service is
appalling in terms of, so when, when the Switch shuts down and whatever it is and it's dead
and it's ripped, like the PlayStation 5, if I want to play PlayStation games that I had
on PS4, I can just download them.
I can't do that shit on Nintendo.
If I want to play Pokemon Violet on my Nintendo Switch 2, I should be able to download Pokemon
Violet because I already bought it.
I should have a library.
It will just be like, Oh, we've added these games in the store.
You can buy them again if you want.
No, I've got what they do is that what you speculate.
That's what they've, that's what they've done.
You can't play any games as far as, as far as I'm aware.
I've never been a massive Nintendo game and game up.
I've had the Nintendo 64, I had the NES, I had this NES.
I think that's it.
I didn't really, I had a DS and stuff and a Wii, so I've had most of them, but never
really like plummeted into them.
But my point being, um, like you can't, where the PS4 and PS5 are transitioned, fantastic.
You can play all your old games.
These games, you could just put your PS4 discs in and play PS5.
Yeah.
Xbox has got the best for it because you can literally put an Xbox, the first ever Xbox
disc in an Xbox and play a game.
Yeah.
And you're good.
Yeah.
Here at the Nintendo, they change from cartridges to discs, to all sorts of stuff.
They're constantly changing whatever it is that they're using.
Um, and I've always seen people complaining that why can't I play all my old games?
You know what I mean?
Because they change.
They're innovative.
We're innovative.
Well, I mean, well, I struggle that word, don't I?
Innovative.
Where, where, where the PlayStation has been, PlayStation 1, PlayStation 2, PlayStation
3, PlayStation 4, box with a disc, box with a disc, box with a disc.
With these, they innovate the machines.
So it's not, it's not always a disc.
It's not always a cartridge.
But the, but you could, so you can get physical games for that right now and they are those
little cartridge.
Yeah.
You can lick them and they taste funny as well.
Yeah.
They're literally design.
Yeah.
Steph always licks them.
It's weird, isn't it?
She can't help it.
She has to.
It's weird.
I don't know why.
They've told you it tastes horrible.
So you go, all right, I'm going to check that.
No, some of them taste like strawberries and stuff.
It's so strange.
It doesn't make no sense.
It's a Nintendo man.
They do this shit.
So cause Steph pointed out a lot of games now and I'm exactly the same.
You buy them digitally.
Yeah.
Same.
I hate that.
How many PS, how many PS five games have you got a physical copy?
Like two.
Yeah.
Two, three, I think one of them is being returned to Amazon.
So you, the digital age is, it's well and truly upon us.
Yeah.
It's far more convenient to do it.
I hate it.
I love having the physical object.
Yeah.
I like to have the physical part of it, but the, the ease of buying online.
I also don't like the fact that, and you'll never get around it.
Downloading it from a disc is so much quicker than downloading it from the PlayStation store
because you've got half of it sitting on the fucking disc right there.
It will always download way quicker.
Um, obviously there's pros and cons to both, but are you saying that, so if I were to
buy a digital game on the switch, I couldn't, what are you saying?
I'm saying if you bought a digital game on the switch and then they bought out a switch
to the way Nintendo operate, you wouldn't be able to just download that onto the switch
there.
So you're speculating on that?
Well, obviously I'm speculating cause the switch to don't exist.
I'm talking about like, what was, what was before the Nintendo switch?
Oh, the Wii U.
Right, so you bought super Mario all stars on the Wii U.
You can't go onto your Nintendo account and download it.
Yeah.
That's the problem.
But that would have been the same shit with the PSP.
Yeah, but this isn't a handheld console.
This is, this is their flagship.
Yeah.
The Wii U was a flagship.
They went, this is what I mean.
They innovate.
They've gone from, they've gone from Dreamcast and that was Sega.
They've gone from the, the Wii to the Wii U to the Nintendo switch.
That's just the PS3, PS4, PS5.
Yeah, but the Nintendo switch is more, this is the one.
Yeah, but it's not a handheld console.
It is their flagship console.
Yes, but that's what I'm saying.
Surely I would imagine if they brought out the switch too, they must make it so that
you can use the old.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what they need to do.
That would be the fucking clever thing to do.
Because I've lost count the amount of times I've had to buy certain Zelda games.
I've bought them so many times, exactly the same game.
I'll buy it again because you can't just re-download it.
It shouldn't be like that.
They did the same thing with The Last of Us though and GTA.
Yeah, granted, but you could.
Bought that fucking thing three times.
You can download it again though, is what I'm saying.
If you bought something on the PS3 store, right?
And now you, now you're still on your same account on the PS5.
No you couldn't.
You can re-download that.
No you couldn't.
That's why I had to re-buy them.
Why?
Because you couldn't just re-download them because they were for that.
PS4 to PS5 maybe, but when GTA 5 come out on the PS3, sounds mental when you say that.
That's crazy.
Right at the end, wasn't it?
So you buy it on the PS3, PS4 then come out.
You had to buy a GTA 5 again, which I had to do, and then the PS5 come out and I bought,
no sorry, the Pro and then PS5.
I'm not 100% sure if you could just re-download.
I think mine was physical.
PS4 to PS5 you definitely could, but they released a newer version of GTA didn't they?
But definitely PS3 to PS4, you couldn't re-download anything.
I know PS3 was a bit iffy.
PS3 was a bit iffy.
Yeah, but then saying that, as I say, Xbox, you can, you couldn't do that on Xbox.
There's no excuse for these companies not to be able to do it.
Xbox can do it.
Everyone's got to have some form of fucking, this is why I said to Steph, there should
just be one fucking console.
Everyone makes the same shit for one, think how great that would be.
No more competition anymore.
It's the exact same fucking thing.
That's right, but what makes companies strive harder is competition.
So competition is healthy.
Profit.
Yeah, but competition is healthy and you need it.
But I just think maybe there's a little bit too much of it and they're all trying to get
a slice of the pie.
Whereas I don't know, man, I think Nintendo just need to just keep with this.
Like I say, I've got my Nintendo account.
Let me just go on and download the games that I already own.
Then we're cool.
But I know they won't and they'll be like, no, just re-download this package.
And I'll be like, no, but I'll buy it.
Yeah, of course I'm an idiot.
That's enough there.
I don't know what we started.
I'm talking about switches and shit.
You wanted to talk about the dark anthology chronicle thing.
What's that?
Oh, me and Mark, I've said it before multiple times.
We play a series called the dark anthology series.
And I'm just trying to get a quick list.
Is the dark pictures anthology.
And it started with there's four of them.
So you got the dark pictures, man of Medan, and then you got the dark pictures, little
hope.
Basically, they're co-op horror games that you can play solo, but it's always best to
play it with another person.
And rather than it being split screen, you follow different characters.
So you might be, so how we're sitting here now, Mark might be playing you and I'm playing
me.
We'll have different dialogue options, but I can't see what Mark's seeing and he can't
see what I'm seeing, nor can he see the dialogue options that I'm picking.
He just receives like what if he's talking to me and I pick a certain thing, he's going
to hear or see what I've said, things like that.
And yeah, they're not long games.
They're probably like eight, maybe like sort of like the eight to 15 hourish type of Mark.
And they're good fun, man.
Like me and Mark always end up killing everyone.
It's normally set like bog standard, five teenagers go to a cabin in the woods to spend
the night.
And then, oh, there's a fucking man running around with a shotgun, cutting people's heads
off and then blowing the brains out.
Little shit like that.
Your typical horror type.
And me and Mark had a shit load of fun playing them and have been keeping up with the series
ever since it started and getting every single one of them one day one release and playing
them.
And the latest one that come out was The Devil in Me.
Now it was 30 quid on Amazon.
So they're not expensive games and sometimes they're a little bit buggy, but you deal with
it.
You're spending 30 quid on the game.
It's not the end of the world.
So me and Mark got it, expecting it to be half decent.
We cracked it out in one session, did it in one session and it was possibly one of the
shittest games I think I've ever played.
And it was fucking awful.
When the credits rolled, we both sat there in silence and I went, that was shit, wasn't
it?
And he went, yeah.
It was so, it was so boring and pointless.
There's going to be another one that comes out.
But I just thought that after like your fourth one, you would have been off date because
for a horror, it was more of a thriller.
I mean, whether we missed the wrong options and all that type of shit.
Because if you wanted to go back and fully, fully completed, take about 25 hourish Mark
to do it because you have to do about four different playthroughs of it to get different
outcomes.
Well, yeah, I was just disappointed.
Just disappointed.
If you're thinking about getting The Devil in Me, don't bother.
It's shit.
Get The Quarry instead.
Yeah.
That's my take on horror games.
I tend to just watch them on YouTube if I've got any interest in them.
You'd enjoy playing them though, man.
Because you can play them with me and Mark as well because I think you can have more
than two players.
Yeah, I don't know.
They're just not, I prefer watching them games.
I just feel like they're a waste of money because they are a serious one and done.
I know you can go back and do different choices.
Yeah, we never fucking.
I don't want to sit there and watch people say the same shit over and over again and
then choose one different dialogue option.
That's just not for me.
So I like watching them on YouTube.
The latest one that's going to be coming out doesn't have a release date.
Is in space.
Oh, all right.
Maybe I'm in.
It might be a bit for you because the one before The Devil in Me, I can't remember the
name of it.
I'll have to try and.
It didn't come out that long ago.
I remember you saying about this before that you and Mark were going to play it and then
it just weren't working.
Yeah, it weren't that long ago.
They must come out fairly regularly.
They do.
I'm just trying to fucking.
I thought it was called The Quarry.
No, no, this is made by the sort of like the same people.
But so the one that we so you got The Devil in Me was the latest one.
The one before that was called House of Ashes and it was set in the desert and used.
Is that the one that weren't working?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When it first come out and you couldn't play it, it won't work.
So we had to wait like a week for them to fucking put a patch in and then we could play
it.
And that was sort of like alien meets Egyptian underground treasure hunter.
The premise of it was quite good and it weren't too bad, but over quick.
Everyone died.
It weren't like it was all right, but it weren't.
They're short games just because you get everyone killed.
No, they're short games anyway, but we can't keep people alive, whether that's because
I purposely piss people off.
We always pick the worst dialogue.
You know, I mean, the antagonizing dialogue rather than trying to try to grow.
Whenever I play the old Star Wars games, Knights of the Old Republic, I want to be the good
guy, man.
You've got to do the evil shit.
Games are for being who you're not in real life.
So just be a dick because I'm not a dick in real life.
I don't think I am.
So if I'm going to be a dick in a video game, I might as well because it's funny.
Yeah, but they.
Yeah, it's it was disappointing.
It was disappointing, but we bought the quarry.
It was cheap as chips on the PlayStation store because they wanted 60 bones for that.
And me and Mark, I ain't paying fucking 60 quid for that.
I think I've got the quarry, man.
I'm sure it was on PlayStation Plus.
No quarry one.
Otherwise, we would have got it.
You sure?
Because I've got one of them sort of games downloaded.
What's the other one?
What?
What's the other one that's like that until dawn?
Yeah, that's the one.
It's made by the same guy.
I've got that one download.
That was on PlayStation Plus.
Made quarry.
I played Woe Long as well.
I just noticed.
Yeah, Woe Long wasn't too bad.
Detroit become human.
Is that the same people?
It's not the same people, but same sort of premise.
Yeah, the narrative story.
Yeah, kind of think.
Yeah, yeah, basically.
Until Dawn.
There you go.
Got it there.
So yeah, me and Mark will be playing the quarry.
It will be half decent, hopefully.
Well, you can play that together as well, can you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can play that together, but we weren't prepared to pay 60 odd quid for it.
I won't ever pay 60 quid for a game like that.
I can't be arsed with it.
No, I don't think you should.
I don't know where I was fucking going with this.
It was a bit of a boring segment.
It's on your shitty list.
That's it.
That's the end.
That's it.
You said we've got to do the little Patreon bit.
Yeah, we've got to do our little Patreon section.
How long is it?
I don't know.
This is long enough.
Don't worry about this.
No one's paying for this, so it can be fucking 10 minutes.
I mean, it's not costing anyone anything.
Yeah, this will be your first exclusive, won't it?
Yes, it'll be my first Patreon episode.
Little disclaimer, we have discussed that sometimes my wife works night shifts on Friday
evening, so more often than not, if Steph's available, she might be doing the Patreon
bits because I just can't stay any longer than I normally do.
So yeah, Steph might be on there a lot more, so if you prefer Steph, pay some money, dickhead.
And if you prefer Steph on this, then tell me and I'll fuck off.
We'll get Steph in.
Did you see that message that Sam's put in?
See what Sam was talking about on the Patreon.
Yeah, I did actually.
I love the interaction, Sam.
The engagement.
I love it.
He's all involved, man.
I don't know if this is the same Sam though, because his Twitter picture to his normal
picture on this were two completely different people, I swear.
Of course it's the same guy.
He's talking about you doing Horizon, isn't he?
I could be wrong.
He was talking about Horizon, wasn't he?
Of course it's the same Sam.
Yeah, I don't know though.
What?
I don't know.
What are you on about?
You're such an oddball, aren't you?
Such a weird one.
It took him two years to get a PS5.
Did you see he bought it from eBay?
Yeah, I saw that.
eBay?
That's mental.
That is mental.
You're taking big boy risks there.
From eBay?
That's crazy, isn't it?
You have to tell us if you paid full, if it was, or maybe you said, did he pay more for
that from eBay?
Did he give in to the scalpers on that one?
Because who was selling it on eBay for the same fucking price as retail?
I want to know.
I want to know, Sam.
I want messages off of you.
I want to know exactly how much your PS5 cost you.
So if it was loads of money, I can laugh.
That's not very nice, is it?
No, I'm not a nice person.
Anyway.
That is true.
Oh, there we go.
I found the message.
He doesn't say, does he?
He doesn't say because he's scared.
But he has got bigger balls than you.
He has got bigger balls than me.
Big sweaty balls.
Let's go.
Let's get out of here.
Let's leave it there.
All right.
Thanks for coming, guys.
Thanks so much, everyone.
And we're going to go and do the really good bit.
If you want to listen to the really good bit and you haven't still fucking bought access
to it, it's five quid on Patreon.
It's called the Jedi.
It's literally fuck all really, isn't it?
Not really a whole lot.
I know people don't want to pay because it's like, I'm going to give you money and you
see free.
It's literally a fiver.
It's two hours worth of content minimum every month.
I think the last episode we did, well, no, the first one we did was like over an hour
long, I think.
Me and Steph.
You won't be getting that out of me.
Fucking hell, mate.
I've got things to do West Ham on tonight.
There's a reason why when we first went out, we said it would be 30 ish minutes.
You might get 35 every now and again.
Maybe.
Football's on.
I've got to get out of here, man.
All right.
Well, we're going to fuck off, catch us on the fucking Jedi club.
All right.
In a bit.
Uro.