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playing God of War but also thinking of it I'm sleeping God of War I wake up
there's God of War you know I mean the Leviathan Axe has sat with me the entire
time had to hide it though because the cat was trying to use it as a scratching
post and I'm not fucking having that so Steph had to hide it away from the
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war zone yeah you want to talk about war zone and DMZ so I took the day off
Thursday booked annually well didn't pull a sticky much like I did with God of War
last week as well so I'm taking this podcast seriously I'm getting it in nice
ready for the content nice plus a lot playing computer games hmm so it's easy
way to deal with yeah so war zone came out I was skeptical you're skeptical I
was skeptical oh you was yeah just because there's a lot of changes what
you was or still are no I was hmm there's a lot of changes gameplay the
systems in place there's just a lot to it but I'm proud to announce it's fucking
amazing yeah so much better than war zone one and all your little bedroom
streamers bitching and moaning mmm fuck off we don't like stream why any little
shit it's all about them man and if war zone now gets changed because of the
verts a little bit back to how it was then then it's just there's no point
because that right now as I'm pretty sure we spoke about this last week the
problem with war zone is for casual gamers casual Barry there's got a
full-time job and plays two hours on a Sunday mm-hmm you can't play war zone
but you can't play it because you're gonna jump on and you're just gonna get
bunny hopped on slide canceled they're gonna be jumping off the walls shooting
you in the face you're like this is crap mm-hmm
whereas now much more PUBG yeah as it fucking should be it's a big map yeah
you've got a backpack you pick items up you store them you can store more than
one of whatever you want in your backpack there's not so many conflicts
and when you do get into a fight with other players it is a battle of
positioning and gun skill it's not who's on PC and can press more buttons than me
and who's got scuff controller so I can jump around corners there's proximity
chat now as well as proximity chat is that always on or is that something that
you can turn off no I mean you can just mute your mic and we just go on a
fucking awesome I'll what you don't use a proximity chat no because the reason
why is because when I'm when I'm playing I'm playing with my pals and we're just
talking about stuff like I'll talk about you know what been up to I don't want to
be looking out a window in a building talking about my family and someone's
just sitting in a bush listening I literally it's just weird and it's
creepy I've seen some funny clips oh it's gonna be it's gonna be mental it is
gonna be mental like you can recruit you can recruit enemies to your team hmm so
I don't know if it's a specific mode we was playing trios me worse than Clarkie
and I downed a man and you can interrogate you can hold square
interrogate them and when the bars finished going up so risk obviously
you'll ping where they're put their teammates on the map which is pretty cool
you can also open your emote wheel and you can recruit them to your team and if
they accept then they'll become a teammate if they don't then they won't
what and they can start killing their own team yeah so you can like literally
convert I don't know how it works in time I don't know if you could have a
very 40 team man team or whatever the whole point I think mainly for the
proximity chat is one for the clips and two for the gulag now the gulag in war
zone one was a very simple case you died other people died around the map you
would be put in a 1v1 room whatever weapon was given to you and you would
just have a quick 1v1 whoever won got put back into the war zone now I don't
know if you're aware it's now 2v2 hmm you're put in there with another random
enemy who's died on the map but for this time you have to work together
hmm to try and get out but in the middle of the in the middle of the map after I
don't know 15 20 seconds a jailer will appear hmm if you kill the jailer you
take the key and you'll get to leave but to do that you will have to work together
not not kill each other over so proximity chat be like hey hey guys
you want to work together yeah yeah absolutely yeah I would be killing
exactly 100% trust nobody trust nobody but all these things are making it I
didn't think that would be a good system I really enjoy it and and if you die if
it's squad wipes at the same time sometimes you're in there with your
mate yeah it's rough edges rough launch as it always is trying to get into a
game is a pain in the ass it's a lot of service game if if Activision can't
sort it out no one's gonna be able to sort out no live service game is ever gonna get
mustered it's just impossible it's just it's normally just how it is especially
when it's with the big games because you get a lot of more because you say you
have a million people playing war zone war zone 2 you're gonna have one and a
half million because of the hype surrounding it exactly so you're always
gonna have way more people than what your servers are built for because it's
you just can't expect it and though you anticipate a rough launch and you know
it's gonna be annoying doesn't make it any less annoying no yeah still
frustrated and you're like I understand why this is happening but what I can say
is it is phenomenal but as I said back to my previous point streamers and stuff
have been moaning like crazy and they're saying their reasons for mainly
complaining is saying there's no skill gap no skill gap the skill gap is there
the skill gap is there more than ever because of it's now based on positioning
you need to get into a good position you need to read a map you need to look at the map and
go right we're moving here and then here and we're gonna get this higher ground
or we're gonna hold this building we're gonna lock this down instead of I slid
around a corner really fast yeah my frame rates quicker than yours I've seen a lot of
streamers on tik-tok I spent a lot of time on tik-tok and seeing a lot of
people complaining about about skill issues and things like that that's what
they're talking about and most of the clips you're seeing are these people
running through an open area zigzagging and then being beat down in a matter of
seconds no cover and getting angry that they that they've died and you sort of
think well what the fuck do you think is gonna happen you're running around in in
the open you go on PUBG you run around the open you're dead 100% that is like
number one rule of a battle royale or any any first-person shooter you do not
stand in the open simple as that so it's very annoying when you keep seeing all
these streamers and they might not even be streamers I might just be people who
just get a couple clips but people whinge in that there's an issue with the
game itself when you're dying because you're standing in the open what do you
think is going to happen it's so fucking annoying I'm with you if they change
start changing shit because streamers are complaining about it
dr. disrespects cart stops fucking whinging to me the tap man starts
whinging about some other shit you know I mean and then they start changing
things to accommodate them it's not fair because that sort of shit's happened
before you're not stupid for thinking that that could happen because it's
already happened many many many times in the past and that's fine but the way I
the way I see it and I spoke to Clark about earlier I think that I think this
is the way warzone was designed the way the multiplayer played a lot slower and
they're trying to move away maybe from that arcade II nature and arcade feel
because people now want escape from Tarkov kind of games they want military
simulators they don't just want arcade cool duty you know the multiplayer you
can go play like that if you really want to there's different modes different
maps where you can play that fast-paced multiplayer but there's a massive market
now for more serious military simulations and it's whilst it's still
very arcade II is so much slower and much more enjoyable for it because I've
always said if pub G was more polished I would be playing that all the time 100
and I joined that far too late so the skill gap is massive for me
pub G's fucking sick I love that yeah so do I but then I'm always getting killed
by level 100 whatever the highest rank and and it's just it's probably too late
to get good yeah me and Mark joined it quite early on and we got quite decent
very good at PUBG but it's that is the kind of game I think a lot of people
like and really set obviously the battle royale market off so I think I think
what they've done is fantastic but as I said to Clarky earlier hopefully if they
do stick with their guns and stay stay true to what they've made because it's
their vision should do then they've got something decent yeah then these other
streamers alive are suck it up and get on with it because I don't know what else
they're gonna move on to and if they and if they don't and they move on to other
things well the people in the market is still there for warzone 2 there'll be
another there'll be more streamers that are nobodies now coming up yeah people
will they'll grow because people want to watch warzone 2 no obviously because
I don't play it so my knowledge is limited but I see I've been seeing a
hell of a lot on this game but am I right in saying that people are
purposely throwing games to be put into bot lobbies to level shit up a lot easier
because of the skill based matchmaking system so to the point where the game
makes so they join a game and apparently just run around there was one video I
saw a tutorial on how to set up your controller so that you wouldn't have to
touch it and you'd always be running around in circles so that you would get
no kills and eventually be put into bot lobbies because you're just as far as
the games concerned that bad and then you can level up your guns and all that
sort of type of shit I've seen that been said before but it wasn't for leveling
up weapons it was so so the plan was I don't know they they done the analytics
and the metrics something like if you had a really bad KD or your KD was judged
over the course of say 10 games so if you went like hugely negative for 10
games then your 11th game would be in like a low rank lobby so then you'd
absolutely fry and frag out and then they'd post that on youtubers I don't
know if that is the case but that's what rumors are and I spoke last time about
the skill based matchmaking system and how I was all for and everything I
wasn't as informed as I am now am I right in saying that so let's say every
every nine out of ten games you play you win consistently and then for me every
two out of ten games I win so else our skills are there quite a big gap
between us am I right in saying that if I were to join you it's gonna throw me
in your lobbies with all the other people that are getting nine out of ten
wins and I'm just gonna get hammered on constantly is that a thing that correct
that is that well that is the assumption that's not fucking fun is it well no
it's not fun but my advice to you would be good enough I genuinely think you
would like this because it's slow pace and the skill is in the gun play and the
position in which you're good at from playing with apex with you and other
shooters you you're surprisingly good so I think surprisingly thank you well yeah
because I don't really play with good people normally I said to you the other
day when you jump on with some of you I'll play games a bit you know you're
wife you know me so I think maybe if you had any interest in ever playing it you
start sooner rather than later so the skill gap doesn't come in you're already
there you already hit the curve so you know you're already ready to go
regardless of when you play I do think it's it's much more up your street it's
much more up all our streets because we don't enjoy running around I don't like
the running around it got too silly it's why it's why people like myself come
away from games like fortnight as well it just goes too far on the other end of
the scale and just become stupid and call of duty was guilty of that the
slide canceling stuff is such fucking it's such bullshit man I wouldn't mind
that if it was available for everyone and it was a case of getting better at
it but the cut the simple matter of fact is unless you're on a PC and a good PC
at that for the for the frame rate and FPS to be good enough to be able to
compete or you spend a silly amount of money on a controller for the paddle so
you can do these things with ease yeah that's that's not fair that's that's
that's not skill gap that's a that's a pay gap that's a money gap well yeah as
well it's the same as overwatch 2 when you join me I'm on a PC and you're
you're being forced to join what is essentially a PC lobby you're always
gonna get absolutely murdered because aim assist is off yeah aim assist is off
and from from you see it yourself the movement that you can do on a PC is
compared to a PlayStation or an Xbox or any other console is fucking ridiculous
PC will always be on top when it comes to movement because especially if
you've got a mouse like mine which isn't a fucking crazy good mouse but a
razor mouse you can adjust the sensitivity on the fly while you're
playing so I can spin around ten times quicker than anyone else can and then if
I want to spin around slower one button and it's done and I can I can customize
that so yeah you jump like I was turning around on overwatch like I've just seen
a unidentified object flying just like shock of war you spun round and it was
like he's having a seizure it's just ridiculous we had a little test on it
and I can't it doesn't matter what sensitivity I put it up to I'm not getting
over near that there's no there's no way that and that and the the crazy thing is
that my highest sensitivity that I have set on my mouse isn't the highest
sensitivity that it can go to so when I put it on the highest and I was spinning
around like a fucking tornado it goes way way higher so yeah don't really know
where that whole point came from anyway warzone is very good the DMZ mode yeah also very
enjoyable lot of potential so they've been very smart with it blueprint for
the m13 so the m13 is not in the game I see this the m13 is not in the game but
it is in DMZ right so how Call of Duty works is you unlock the blueprint then
you unlock it for all the modes multiplayer DMZ warzone and then you can
obviously level the gun up to unlock the attachments etc etc now people weren't so
excited about DMZ but when they put a gun in there that you can only earn in
there everyone's all over you got very clever so you know I was gonna try it
anyway but kind of forced their hands so me and Clarky jumped in there the other
day so we'll try and get it very cool dropped in just some crappy weapons
whatever we found out where because there's a boss the boss was called the
chemist nice to try and kill the chemist so we drive all the way across the map
now I'm used to warzone one the cars handle like arcadey they don't do that
no more they're very slow to get started you can't just jump in the car and go vroom
you have to like it builds up speed made it a bit more realer yeah it's a lot
more realistic and we're getting halfway there going along a massive bridge and I
looked and I was like we're gonna run out of fuel we run out of fuel on a bridge
and had to book it the rest of the way mm-hmm we got there anyway massive
like gas storm where he is in so we had to go buy some gas masks we went in
there the bots are they they're somewhere in between like I don't know
they're just staring at walls no idea what's going on or they literally like
Rambo and they just dive in shooting grenade rockets some like there's no in
between mmm anyway me and Clarky managed to get through it somehow first ever one
we did managed to kill him I picked up the M13 we booked it down the down the
street found an extraction zone set this flare off more AI dropped in we killed
them got onto the helicopter lovely got the M13 blueprint but thing is them for
in blueprint obviously you know how it works you whatever you take out of the
DMZ or talk of mode then you get to keep you can take him with you next time if
you lose it lose it but it doesn't give you the blueprint for everybody only
gives it to the person holding it no so you had to go in again so yeah so
obviously we had to go in again we've got it first you or I had it but but
what I read luckily online was that if you go back into the DMZ drop the M13
for your mate he picked up then extracts our way that's what we did but even then
risky because if we get shot you've lost it I've still got it because I've
unlocked the blueprint now you still go back in but then we'd have to do it
again because we've both lost it now so yeah I dropped it for him he's got it so
we've both got the M13 now but it's a very clever way to get people to apply
it people are shockingly positive about it when people were very negative
before so yeah just another thing to play another really fun mode so overall
massive thumbs up from me warzone DMZ it sounds like DMZ's like obviously
escape from Tarkov inspired but also the division inspired that's what people
compare it to most division black zone or dark zone with the extractions
because now the entire game like series that shit was so fun so fucking you took
me there once as a first gaming experience to give up nuts when it I
was thinking about the other day how nervous we both were you was you was as
well no you were I could hear it in your voice you were nervous whereas now now
we don't play over each other at all we don't even talk about that well I've
gone from bringing you every day talking to you for a good like two hours a day
to nothing because otherwise we get Friday and we're just scratching but
yeah it's um it sounds very dark Sony and I like that I think that's that gives
you something something worth fighting for there's a few things that I'm not a
fan of so why it works is you got insurance slots so you can you can build
any weapon you want from guns that you've got and things you've unlocked in
all across all the multiplayer yeah so I built my m4 so love the m4 was using
and can ensure it cool you go in you lose it whatever it gives you like a
20-hour cooldown or whatever on the weapon so then you have to take contraband
weapons in which are weapons that you find in DMZ and bring out can't change
any attachments they're just they are what they are that's fine I don't mind
that system but then you can add all the grenades smoke grenades stun grenades
yeah frag grenades all sorts stuff like that you can just pick them like you
would normally these things should be found and brought out so you got I'm
gonna take a smoke grenade in this time I've got three of them yeah you shouldn't
just be able to take them as you know yeah but that's about other than that I
just don't feel there's a massive risk to dying where I think that is the
shining light of that sort of genre which I haven't really nailed they did
stick a fat old beta sticker on it oh did they so they've they've got a cover
in covering their arses and this isn't the final product exactly so with that
that beta sticker on it now but that's that's quite clever though because we
have you've got you've got a good the community is is enjoying it so far
they're gonna give feedback on it so rather than bringing it out and how it
is now that's it and then saying a couple months time they decide to change
a load of shit it's it's clever it's clever it sounds to me like they're
actually giving a fuck about what the community thinks and I like that and
that work that works good for the developers it works good for the people
who actually play in the game it's good for everyone if they actually take note
and listen to what people are saying and sort of just come away a bit from little
streamers whinging about it the most exciting aspect for me is that
obviously they're trying to implement like storylines into warzone each
season this is happening and you're you're going into be the last one
standing because of this reason none of it really makes any sense it's cool is
a cool cinematic something to throw in there but it doesn't really make any
sense with this mode they really could put some story you know killing this
chemist I don't know who the fuck he is it was cool to go and kill a boss so
when like in two three years time whenever what is happening I remember
when we had to go and kill that chemist dude they have a health bar or anything
or is it just like zombies but it was cool you know it's a cool mechanic he's
in a little gas zone on his own yeah loads of people and me and Clarkie were
like nervous trying to get out like stressing I had zero bullets I had zero
armor plates I'm laying down like Clarkie you've got to shoot these the
helicopters coming down for us to leave I'm like you've got to shoot them I have
no bullets and no armor if I get shot I'm dead that's as simple as that so he
managed to like fight him off and then we got and that was that was the fun
that was the excitement exhilarating it was and it was nerve-racking because we
had the M13 to lose my point being if you haven't got that to lose takes it
away a little bit you know whatever yeah yeah cuz you all that's gonna happen is
I can't use my gun for 20 hours yeah so so go back to that so you die so you're
let's say you're carrying the M13 you're in the DMZ you die that M13 is now
locked out for 20 hours across the entire game no no no only in DMZ only in
DMZ so how it works is I always have an M4 because it's my favorite gun in Call of Duty
so I have the M4 I build it the way I want it it's insured if I want to take
that in I'll take that in if I die or lose it out there then it's locked out
for 20 hours and I can take any of the old crappy contraband weapons I've found
but that is pretty much all you lose you'll lose like because you can only put
one armor plate in now we used to put three you can find armor plate bags so
you can put two plates in or three plates if you have one of them then you
can take that in with you if you lose it you go back down to one plate so the
contraband gas masks you can take out and put them in you do lose little
things but I think like say they need a stash they have no stash those Tarkov
has got a massive stash and a place they got a flea market where you can sell
items to other players all that sort of stuff like an auction house and well
they start adding them in later the game is gonna skyrocket potential that's why
I think like you said the beta sticker very smart info and get people in yeah
it's alright add pepper it yeah it could blow up and then here comes the fucking
microtransactions of buying things to get your gun out of the 20-hour
cool down or there'll be events where cooldowns only five hours rather than
20 which that in itself wouldn't be so bad because you say say it so they bring
something else out in the DMZ that's fucking difficult to get hold of like a
way more difficult boss than the chemist and they say for limited time only while
this events on cooldown is slashed to two hours rather than 20 to try and get
more people to throw themselves in the potential for that is is very cool and
they've got is a decent studio and a decent game to be running off of off of
that it's a shame they've built it like this in that I think what they should
have done is they give you a first ever game you go in with a fucking AK nothing
else just a shitty little AK and you should be scrounging for everything red
dot sights a cog sights yeah sniper scopes everything and then you build
your weapon out that way so then the weapon that you're putting all these
attachments on you're gonna put this I'm gonna put this grip on this I'm gonna
put this stock on this I'm gonna put this scope on this one you've spent the
time to get a weapon you spent the time to get the bits and bobs to put on it
and then when you're on it you're not just if you go in without weapon you're
not just losing your weapon you're losing all the attachments you put on it
to just be able to build any weapon that you like with all the attachments takes
away the whole point I think you I think you run into the risk of that of how
many times are you gonna go in and die before you go fuck this I'm not playing
anymore because you keep going in dying losing all your shit because you aren't
ensuring it or there will be people that will go fuck that I'll just jump on war
zone instead that is the game yeah but people don't like that though do they
just because they're liking it now yeah exactly the same mm-hmm yeah but it's if
you take everything away from them so essentially a permadeath type thing it
it I think you I like I like that idea I prefer that idea to just having a gun
locked out for 20 hours if it's everything's locked out for 20 hours
that you had on you I like that but I don't think everyone will enjoy that I
don't want it locked out I want it gone oh so you just gotta get it again yeah
you lose that you I've got an AK I've gone in I've managed to find an M4 mm-hmm
I've picked up a red dot sight and a silencer I come out okay brilliant I'm
gonna put that red dot on my AK I'm gonna put the silence on my M4 go in the M4 I
lose the M4 I've lost the silencer and the M4 mm-hmm so I haven't got an M4 now
but I've got the AK with a red dot I suppose you can stack up you're finding red dots so I've got loads of red dots in the stash
yeah I suppose that that sort of gives you that replayability because you if if
if every now and then you're dying it's not like you play a load of DMZ get
everything that you could possibly want so there's no point in you playing it
again whereas if you're losing shit then yeah that gives you that replayability
because you might go in with a with a weapon fully decked out lose it and then
you're like fuck so I've lost all my shit be angry for an hour and then go
back into it and regroup and try and get all your shit again or yeah no I like it
I like it what you do is you put in really rare loot you put in dangerous areas
yeah there's a there's a completely covered gas area the only way you can
go in there is safely is with a hazmat suit find the bits of a hazmat suit
legs I've got the torso I found the hat sick I'm gonna extract get my stuff
ready and I'm gonna go I'm gonna go in I've got my good gun I've got my hazmat
suit on I've gone in of course I found some sick loot rare loot I come out I
extract again I sell it on the market for stupid money hmm I'm flossing I buy
what I want from the market but that game cycle that game mechanic is basically
what Tarkov does yeah I don't think it's a polish this call duty but it's the same concept
of it yeah I think if they did that that that sort of game mode on massive you're
talking about building an economy which is that type of shit because dark zone
was close to doing that other than being able to sell your stuff on the black
market obviously you could sell it but it wasn't that that cut and dry but yeah
that that that as an idea sounds fucking awesome because you could become like a
full-on pirate type fucking fee yeah man that does sound fucking cool mate you
never know maybe they'll they'll think about trying to throw something like
that's what I thought they were going with and with it being a beta I think the
potential is there yeah but the way they've structured at the moment I don't
know if they'll revert from that is my theory I don't know whether they'll take
stuff I think when you try and throw economies like that into games is very
very difficult because it's such a fine balance World of Warcraft does it very
well obviously with auction houses it has its own economy every server gold is
worth a different amount and things are worth different and like a real economy
that shit can crash and that shit can boom and the server itself might not
have enough gold or it's got too much gold and things like that so it can
become a bit tricky but that's sort of where you end up leaving it to your
player base to handle but I I like the idea that I think what you would then
need is like DMZ specific stuff that you can only get through obviously the the
black market and things like that and then you have warzone specific stuff you
know what I mean so it's not all just you go and DMZ to get a load of shit and you
can use all of it in warzone and it doesn't work like that no so you have
all the guns right got all the guns whatever you can use but you can't use
m13 until you've unlocked it in DMZ just because you've got an m13 it doesn't
mean you've got one with a red dot so you can use that in warzone now that's
not what we're going for it is solely the blueprint so you can build it how
you want in warzone or multiplayer it doesn't matter do you know I'm saying
that's the same thing no no because you know what it was annoying is as well in
the single player campaign no in the single player campaign there's a bit in
one of the missions where you've got nothing and you're like scavenging
around so you're like this is what DMZ is gonna be like yeah showing you and
you open in like boxes and stuff and you're finding a red dot sight and
you're putting it on your gun and stuff why is that mechanic in there but not in
DMZ why are you finding red dot sights and putting them on your weapons they
must have had that in DMZ at some point maybe or maybe there's something that
they're gonna maybe maybe it might be a case of they've got the functionality
for it to be there however DMZ still being in quotes beta they're testing
that out before they start committing to throwing stuff like that in that that
that because you don't want to go for the effort of putting that in and making
it so that every person can do that because I'm sure it's quite a lot of
work and then no one fucking like DMZ because then you just wasted your time on
it but if you've got the if you've got the blueprint of that there haha then if
DMZ takes off like it sounds like it will then you can throw that in there a
lot easier if that makes sense yeah I hope you hope that they really press on
with it and they don't just leave it like that but one of the coolest features
of it is you don't know how many players are in the game mm-hmm there's other
players in there as well you can only go in and trios but me and Clark it's a no
squad film when in as a duo yeah but yeah you can only go in in trios and we
like going along and we're like is that AI or is that a player? Because you can't really tell
mm-hmm I mean oh yeah of course there's no name plates or anything is there?
Right and then Clark's I'm sure even in in warzone because they removed the AI from
warzone like they had in the beta and now they just hang around strongholds
mm-hmm because we don't really know where the strongholds are we get confused
I've been shot I've been shot and you're like ducking down you're like that's just a
bot bro but you don't know it's a bit more excitement you know especially in
DMZ where you know nothing you don't know if it's a player or a bot yeah it's
exciting when you see someone cuz you're like it's good it's good fun anyway we've
spent far too much time on that but massive thumbs up and I really think
you should download it and give it a go. Is that done? This is basically this is
basically my part it is anyway next one vampire survivors I don't know what to say
about this game I don't know what this is I saw a picture of it and it looked
wanky. Every now and again there's a little Twitter game where everybody
that I follow like reputable people yeah start going on about this new game and
at the moment is vampire survivors we've had others on there like fall guys and
stuff like that that really took off on there mm-hmm among us yeah among us all
them sort of one vampire survivors is the latest and it recently came out so I'm
getting out breath that's how ill I am hold on
it's cuz you've been talking for the last 37 minutes yeah so vampire survivors
came out on game pass I'm just googling it now so I figured I'll give it a go I'll turn
the old Xbox on that's definitely not a waste of money had about 400 updates to
do look you knew why you bought that and that that game hasn't come out yet no it
wasn't supposed to that was in quite a few of the categories for game of the
year shit by the way which was vampire spores no not vampire survivors
starfield how it's not even out how can be gaming here it was on like two or
three different you made most anticipated game that will be was
definitely on that one yeah it will be them ones not because no one knows
nothing about it anyway yeah it came out and game boss I'll give it a quick
download I think it was about three megabytes large I mean this game could
have come out on the NES yeah you know I mean it could have come out on one of
the oldest systems known to man yeah I mean it's about as graphically advanced
as pong yeah it literally is this is something that could be run on a fucking
toaster it literally is like got about eight pixels in it yeah but anyway
that's that's a disservice it's fucking amazing it really is what do you do you
just move right right okay you don't even need to I'm looking I'm pressing
all the buttons what button does nothing just move so you start off you pick a
character you go into a the first level is a jungle forest you start off and
you character we've got whatever weapon the character starts with just starts
using it so I like character with a whip hmm so as soon as you start it's just a
character and he's just going every like I'm watching I'm watching a video I see
what you mean he's using the whip yeah every like one and a half second he's
just gonna just whip in yeah like spiders or those they're bats so every time yeah
that's first level so every time you kill an enemy or nine times out of ten
they'll drop a little a little thing that looks like a rupee from the legend
of Zelda right you pick that up gives you a little bit of level you level up
he's level up yeah you level up just level yeah you pick of a tree of items
yeah and they all do different things they'll have an augment the ability you
already have will give you a new one yeah you can carry eight of them at a
time I believe and you just rinse and repeat and you can and it it sounds it
sounds fun it looks fun I know it is fucking I can see exactly why people are
enjoying this because it's just a fucking just chill out and just just go
for it man it is so addictive it looks it you're
leveling up but what I'm saying is it seems so simple but it's so deep it is so deep I think one man
made this one man I believe and he just did it as like a little pet project it's
massive now no it's full-time job so yeah you just you're just picking up
you're leveling up you're picking different augments and but then what
happens is what I didn't realize for a long time was that once you've leveled
these up to however many in a run other items that you've that you can pick up
will evolve the item so say you can pick up a heart that gives you more health if
then on your next level up ability the garlic item is there it will say
evolution with the heart yeah so when you've leveled that up that if you pick
that item up then it will give you like a mega ability right and that and that
goes for pretty much every item in the game but then past that which I've just
discovered now is you can now like get like evolved versions of each weapon and
then merge like the mega versions it's just I don't know where it ends and then
it each run can last up to 30 minutes and then death turns up and just
insta kills you but I found a way where I think you can kill death now death
himself room the levels are like mental is that you get to the end and you think
this is the last mission you do last mission there's like oh no this one is
a lot now there's there's permanent unlocks when you pick up the gold you
can go and level up your ability so each you start with more speed more health
then there's a thing that you can buy called a golden egg from a merchant
which apparently increases stats on a certain character there's loads of
characters to unlock it is so deep and so addictive and I am fucking obsessed
with it gems looking at it she's telling me how are you doing this because
there's monsters everywhere the screen is filled and I'm like ducking and
weaving and I've got whips going off all over the place I've got bombs going off
birds flying around dropping shit oh shit yeah like that no you can't see
that yeah no it gets much 100 times 1000 times worse than that that's small time
yeah it is insane the game is phenomenal one of the first comments having crushed
through every achievement in this game it has been a complete blast to play the
most fun I've had for a in ages on Steam is currently at 10,000 reviews at 99%
positive you know you're in for a treat that was nine months ago yes it'll be
even more there's me being all gassed there is free how much is it it's 499
and and there's me leaving out a section on that comment saying that it was three
dollars because it I thought it was free so 10 out of 10 on steam 127,000 and a half
reviews it's just obviously it came out it came out 17 for December 2021 on on
steam and it's just come out on console games like that they get that they have
a way of being real decent other because they aren't asking you aren't asking a
lot of the game the game isn't asking a lot of you and I think the it's games
like that can be so simple but like you said so deep at the same time the
gameplay itself looks like a piece of piss it looks enjoyable but it doesn't
you're not fucking it's not damaging your brain to figure out how to play it and
and those types of games sometimes well evidently people just want to chill out
and play an easy an easier game that's still fun as hell and that looks like
one of those games obviously okay and it's just a different ability this is
very reminiscent of cult of the lamb and we were saying all the fucking
followers and everything shout out punk who is the developer of vampire
survive you've done a fantastic job and I really can't wait to see more of this
game what you're gonna do with it because it's clearly got a huge
following now and it's all right I'm just swallowing breath and burps and all
sorts yeah it's swallowed up my life yeah be honest and it's exactly what I
needed after you know what we're gonna get to so we better speed up to do this
well so shout out vampire survivors huge congratulations to pongal great game
love it absolutely fantastic I can't wait to play tonight moving on we have
Pokemon this is your section because I didn't know what I was only a quick
little section there's nothing crazy I'm not really a massive fan of Pokemon
love it only come about because I was I was seriously considering getting a
switch and getting the new Pokemon you say that I took my switch on the other
day and I've done loads of downloads because I was gonna vibe with mine as
well mm-hmm and I decided not to because it was either that or the steam deck and
I thought you know what I want to direct money if I'm I want to save my money at
the same time if I'm gonna have a have an expense for my own benefit I want to
throw that money into the podcast so I held off and I think I made the smart
decision to do so I've been seeing a lot of videos on the new Pokemon it's
Pokemon scarlet and violet it looks so shit I like Pokemon games but it's a lot
of apparently the launch was really rough it looks laggy as fuck now there
has been an update and a lot of people are saying that once you do the update
it fixes a lot of the issues but by the by the looks of it I think everyone was
hoping for them to really ramp up the graphics and make it look decent and it
just looks rough man it's I mean it's been labeled as the open world Pokemon
game that everyone wanted but didn't receive in that and and and I think that
that statement is true in that everyone would love an open world Pokemon game I
certainly would but they just can't seem to nail it man they just can't seem to
do it this fucking dead world nothing in it laggy as shit frames all over the
place it keeps crashing it just looks a bit of a mess and that was my section
done let's hope it improves I love Pokemon one thing I know about Pokemon and
Nintendo is they always land on their feet and I don't worry about there
they'll sort it out of course they will and the player base will remain there's
no one that's gonna be turned off a Pokemon just a lot of people complaining
like how it was meant to be so much better than its predecessor which was
arceus arceus oh yeah however you fucking say it yeah that one you can go
back and play that game though people keep saying oh my god it is so much
work and you can always go back yeah you can that's that section done shut up
next section is yours as well fillers fillers oh another filler my my entire
week has been taken up with God of War my entire week from when we filmed the
last episode we're not talking about God of War by now no yes but this but this
but this scared yeah but this this rolls into it so as many of you may be aware
on the 16th of November World of Warcraft went in went into phase two of
their pre-patch for Dragonflight which meant that the new class and the new
race the dracthea evoker was released for people that have already pre-ordered
Dragonflight I am obviously one of those people and the excitement for it was
there but God of War took me in a way that I never thought a game would and
for once in my life I wasn't excited to I wasn't so excited to play new content
on World of Warcraft because I was busy investing all of my time into something
else I just couldn't focus I couldn't do it I played for about an hour I still
haven't done it there's a new Star Zone and everything and I've done like four
quests in it because I jumped on and I went what am I doing I said I turned
around to the TV as I got I gotta go back on this I've got to do it so there
will be more way more on World of Warcraft next week it's coming because
yeah we're I think now is the time where we can move on to God of War Ragnarok
because it's not why Marvel snap don't even start with that what's what shut
up what's this game that I've got hold on hold your horses I'm holding my horse
because Marvel snap is the cut is a Marvel card game you know I am I am
correct now where is because I sunk in a lot of time and a lot of money into
this card game is it hearthstone I'll delete it anyway moving on Swift throw
down never heard of it you never heard of it no you never heard a throw down
no is massive is it Marvel Oh family guy family guy fucking future armor
Bob's burgers all of them and it's a card game man oh no all I know is Marvel
snap is another thing much like vampire survives I'm just minding my own
business on Twitter and all I'm seeing is vampire survivors gonna get a game of
the year category it's that good blah blah and now I'm all I'm seeing is
Marvel snap is the best mobile game time of the year and I'm like I'll check it
out man I don't like mobile games well I do now I'm telling you yeah I have told
one two three I've told three people yeah try it right I'm one of them as well
and well no you're fourth and all three people that I have told are fucking
obsessed with it so much so they're higher levels than me mmm in less time
pretty much something more yeah and I'm playing war zone with Clarkie and Royce
and while the games loaded we'll play Marvel snap yeah they brought me back
yesterday from the gulag I was dead they brought me back I'm parachuting I'm in
the middle of a Marvel snap game so I just had to hang in the parachute they
all I can hear one oh one on me one on me they're all down shooting dead where's
ash I'm still floating in the parachute because I'm playing Marvel snap is it
is it something similar to Hearthstone it's got that mechanic of you can only
play what your power level and the gems go up each time yeah but that but it's
different there's three different zones on the board each one can be many
different things I've played it you've played models now yeah why are you
asking them because it's your show and everyone it's not just me that's fucking
listening I played about ten minutes of it well that's not enough to go very
bored very quick how have you judged engaged off of that no because I think
I'm fair and saying this what was that what was that you might a game like it
it was very very very similar to throwdown and I sunk in so many hours of
throwdown and quite a lot of money that I just wasn't interested in Marvel snap
because I don't play throwdown anymore I I've had my fix of mobile card games
like that I was like no I can't be bothered because it's very very very
similar well one of the massive pros to Marvel snap is it's not pay to win you
can't buy anything really yeah no neither was throwdown it was just I'm
greedy cool well whatever all I know is there's a welcome pack where you get
like 700 gold and Captain America oh so right yeah I just wanted Captain
America you pay for that yeah and then what does Captain America do no it's
just a card you get it's just a different with a different ability and
nothing different card face is literally all it is you can't upgrade cards in
any way that makes them more powerful yeah believe me or not I don't know
throwdown to be fair you can't on this and I bought a battle pass first ever
battle pass it's not paid to win yeah how much money you spent on this is
giving me any competitive advantage at all it's impossible there's nothing you
are so easy to get your wallet to open up for a game incorrect not incorrect
at all when's the last time you played fortnight is Star Wars skins when's the
last time you played fortnight and when's the last time you bought a skin
for it couple weeks ago because I went up blue
player I want to jump on and play Star Wars characters that's neither in or
there I like what I like you put Star Wars skins in anything I'm gonna buy
and you're all over it doesn't matter doesn't matter you send me some right
old shit which is a Star Wars stuff because you know I sent you a Star Wars
advent calendar that was 40 quid yeah and it would have been cool if they were
cool characters but got Darth Vader dressed up like some elf you don't do
Darth dirty like that well there's no mug so you like you like you like Marvel
snap I don't like it I fucking love it that's really great one so you know it's
never in or there with you like it if you don't you don't all I'm saying is if
you like if you don't like mobile games check it out because it's changed my
opinion on mobile games forever nice anyway all I know is I think that you
should try to play Marvel snap but more importantly I think you should try and
play warzone but
what is this what is this those put that right to the mic so it's a bit louder
this is your warning God of War spoilers are coming now yeah that's what this is
thank you for listening to this episode if you're leaving well we love and
appreciate you see you next week we're about to talk about God of War me and
ash have both completed it and we said last week that we will do this segment
you can turn it off now I think people get the siren yeah we're gonna talk
about God of War there will be spoilers we will talk about quite a lot of it
about every spot so yeah if you want don't want to know a thing you just get
out this is your warning right now yeah turn the podcast off if you don't want
to hear spoilers about God of War we cannot be much more clearer than that
now anyway about Kratos dying that's not what happens we'll try and get some sort
of we'll try and get some sort of organization to it so let's work our way
through it what you can remember what you like can I just quickly say quite
possibly one of the best games I think I've ever played well I got a message
yesterday late last night saying best game ever full stop and that was it yeah
and you never put full stops so I know you were serious it was incredible now
you did it in 22 hours I did it in 53 no 53 35 and a half hours now this would be
quite interesting because we both played it completely differently whereby you
did none of the side missions if you didn't have to I did one and I did all
of them I did one side mission after the story ended because there was another
ending if you go and do it yeah and I and I did all of them so I've got I've
got five side missions left four of them you can't track but I know where they
are I got one more Raven to get of Odin's Ravens I got one more Draugr
Draugr Draugr hole to close up what I'm smelling the platinum it's coming I
looked at the trophies just to make sure and I'd say I've got about I've got I
think half the trophies and let's say there's like ten more trophies I need to
get six of them I think five or six of them are the side missions that I've got
left I don't know although this is a spoiler section please don't spoil the
side missions for me because I haven't done them yet so difficult not to spoil
the side can I just say I can appreciate that you've spent your hard-earned money
and you will play you are more than entitled to play your games however you
see fit and I fully understand that you beeline the story for the spoilers
because I won't lie it's taken me a lot longer to complete this game than I
thought it would and trying to avoid the spoilers and I almost had certain points
spoiled for me multiple times in fact one of them was sort of spoiled for me
so I can understand why you did why you played it the way that you did but
having been someone who did every single side mission the minute I got it like
when I go into a new zone you'd get like five or six different side missions I'll
do them all before I carried on with the main story mental absolutely mental and
law law fuck it the law inside of these side missions is just incredible shit
that ah I listen to a podcast today and they was talking about God of War and
they said the same they said a lot of side missions give you so much
information you're not you you know if you go back and do him because a lot
of people play it same as me yeah and normally in any other situation I
wouldn't play like this I'll do what you do if I feel like doing so I just go do
the side missions I'm a completionist in that respect I don't like leaving areas
unfinished so I'll try and do it but in this one I like sales petrified and I
didn't want it ruined if I didn't have a family I would have just booked like
the notion of the week off and I'd have just blow for it the way I would
normally play doing everything but unfortunately this is the position I'm
in I just think it's that they're so in-depth and you talk about a lot with
Witcher and that how the side missions feel so much like the main story you
can't even tell the difference and it was very much like this very very much I
don't think there was a single side mission where I thought what's the
fucking point in me doing this they all had a relevance to something and yeah
I'd say the majority of them probably like 70 80 percent of the myths side
missions you do give you a piece of law that you've never heard of before and
when you do complete the game or as you begin as you start coming towards the
end of the game those bits of law that you've learned along the way start to
fall in to their little their little sections and you think fucking hell
that's why that's like that and that's why I'm blah blah blah
weren't really paying attention to the shit that you get I've got some cool art
like the armor that I'm using is armor that you only get from side missions and
some of the abilities you get for like oh pardon me for like the blades of
chaos and shit you only get from side missions so I don't really know it'll be
quite interesting to see like our games next to each other to see what you've
got and what I've got because I'd imagine it'll be quite different I just
got normal bog standard shit I've got I think yeah I think I've got pretty much
everything the only things where I just I thought no fuck this I'm not touching
them until the end of the game is the berserkers don't know if you've run into
one yet I think so basically the Valkyrie replacements this game's Valkyries the
big fucking night dude yeah green things yeah I killed one of them and then it
popped up with the side mission because obviously it starts a mission one out of
twelve yeah I went twelve and the little fucking worm dude yeah yeah I went there's fucking
twelve of these what the fuck it'll be interesting to see how they've designed
these quests because I imagine there's back and forth between Kratos and Atreus
there's back I think yeah there's back and forth so what's gonna happen when I
go there with Freya and interesting with obviously no Brock because obviously
Brock's dead the ending that you're talking about is it Brock's funeral yeah
yeah yeah very sad very very sad gut wrenching to me I didn't like Brock
until he died and I was like oh no I really liked him and Sindri did very nearly make me cry because
of seeing the the anger in his eyes and the fact that they made it made his
eyes red I was like that I didn't even notice I was like that gaze is broken I was like
he is fucked and when when Kratos as like obviously Brock goes off in the boat
cool to have a Viking funeral as well very cool when he goes to grab Sindri
and he's like Brock was and then he just shrugs him off and just looks at me like
and then just disappears I was like fuck the way he disappeared I think it's the
it's the fact that I don't know you might have not paid attention to the
dialogue because to be fair I didn't it was Steph that that told me obviously
where Brock died first and Sindri brought him back and he doesn't have an
afterlife where he's died again obviously he doesn't ever laugh like and that shit
killed me man because I was like Sindri couldn't handle Brock dying the
first time so much so that he went and got his soul back and now him doing that
has meant that now he's died again he does not have an afterlife and Sindri
is gonna have to live with that for the rest of his life in that he's ruined
like Brock just he's gone forever there's no there's no meeting him again
because there's no afterlife and I thought that was so sad it really was
speaking of Brock's death what was your reaction to oh I'm not here by the way
I'm Odin fucking me well where's here then normally see these twists coming
that didn't say that at all so here must be dead then he must have actually been
killed is gone as well yeah I found that crazy because this whole time I didn't
like to hear no I didn't I was like this guy's kept saying to self I was like this
geezer is the god of war it's just annoying I was like he is he is the
pinnacle of of war well he's Kratos in the Norse world basically and and he's
doing fuck all he's making soup and running away from enemies I was like this
guy is wet I've had enough of him and then yeah when he turned to Odin I was
like what the fuck I love Odin's character by the way yeah I didn't make
the start towards the end I was like yeah now I really liked him I really
really really enjoyed the balance between like not comedy but the the sort of
non-serious lines thrown in with the serious situations and Odin did that so
well it's just calm demeanor no matter what yeah yeah just he never raises
voices and the fact that he just lets Atreus leave as God on everyone she's
like you know a prisoner here because I know you're gonna be back so clever
because then you start to think hold on is Odin all right yeah yeah of a knob
yeah are we gonna be the bad guys mmm they made me think that a little bit it
was such a such a journey man I think the way that they ended it I was
expecting so we've gone completely off of what I said and started from the
beginning we started at the end fuck it I think that there's so much shit to
cover that if you went for it would be a for I think that the way that they've
ended it because I was worried for you in that I was like when he finishes
this because natural I don't know if you're you're the same but if I finish
the campaign the chances of me wanting to go back and do the side stuff unless
I'm really wanting to like get a platinum or something so slim because
it's sort of like well I'm done now what's the point but the way that they
ended that where the credits rolled up as you were walking down the pathway and
then boom they disappeared and it was like okay cool you can carry on now I
really like that transition because it wasn't so cut and dry as straight back
to the main menu continue exactly the same as God of War 2018 was it the same
when they walk back down the mountain after throwing the ashes in the Notch
yeah of course it is of course it is yeah I just really liked it and I did
think to myself I was like maybe I won't return to it but I definitely will I
definitely will because I want that platinum I feel like this is the game
this should be mine at my first platinum of actually given worthy of it for sure
100% and it's easily obtainable where did you think the story was going because
I was I had loads of different times where I'd like bold moments and I was
gonna write them down I didn't and I wish I had as I thought all these
different theories of what was gonna happen at the end hmm there's times
when I because obviously I play with headphones on obviously you don't cause
deaths in there but when you're moving with Kratos he breathes heavy yeah he's
like hmm so I thought he's just dying anyway dying of old age or whatever and
then at the end in the tent before you go to Asgard he's telling him the story
about the farmer that can't carry on no more and when death comes I thought that's a
metaphor for him yeah he's just given up so he's just gonna that is what it was
he's just given up and he's ready to die now so yeah I thought he was just gonna
die of old age regardless by the way one of the coolest lines in the history of
anything is death can have me have me when it earns me I'll fucking love that
death can have me when it earns me so fucking cool it was so cool he'd killed
death you know I mean it depends what mood is in the case is nuts I think the
the raw emotion that you saw from Kratos was so unnatural but natural at the same
time because even to the point where quite a few scenes his lip was quivering
yeah I was getting upset his lips quivering and I was half expecting to
see a tear come down his eye that you never saw but I think you could sort of
see like him welling up a bit and like in the tent when he's telling that story
and he cuts off because obviously Atreus is asleep and you can hear the emotion
in his voice that that that person was ready to to break down at that point he
sounded very very upset and I felt so attached to him and I think off the back
of you know that you're never gonna see Kratos again but this is it they're not
doing any more this storylines done as far as I'm aware that's false I thought
they say they come out and said they're not gonna do it anymore
they're not the Norse story is done I thought they said they're done with the
Kratos side of it they're done with Norse they're doing this Norse in two
series they just said that's all they've said they've they're doing two games to
wrap Norse up so that's why everyone thinks he's gonna jump to another
mythology yeah that would make sense because there's high there's a lot of
rumors about him going to Egypt and there's a lot of rumors about him going
to Japan I suppose especially with the with the opening of the Modumma call it
he's worshiped as a god yeah on the other side you see the shock on him he's
like I made it it's very cool he they can go in any way they want now you can
now they can leave Kratos and you can go and play as Atreus
she's a fruit fruit yeah who's that fruit um fours daughter oh yeah I forgot
about I was thinking of Agraboda Agraboda yeah she was cool there's loads of
different shit I've got one disappointment go on and I'm sure you're
gonna share it one criticism not once did you get to wield Thor's hammer no
yeah yeah they sold it in a click-session I'm thinking there's no way
you don't go through this game you can throw it you can pull it back there's no
way well there's the same way you grab hold of it and stop it from moving I
thought that was cool I wanted to hold it he stops it he stops it from moving
the hammers in motion both arms he just grabs it and just goes no I thought I
thought I was gonna have a so powerful when we got really close to the end I
thought that Thor was what I thought the story was gonna end right at the end
was I don't think Kratos was gonna die but I thought that the girl you just
said Agraboda oh fruit she was gonna go with Atreus mm-hmm and that you're gonna
play as Atreus or whatever and she was gonna give you Thor's hammer so Loki was
gonna have Thor's hammer and his bow because you haven't really got melee
weapon you're running around hitting people with a bow mm-hmm that's sort of
just flies around Ingrid it's cool but I like that that Ingrid I want a weapon
Ingrid didn't actually belong like wasn't here was the Freya's Freya's
Freya and Freya that's confusing yeah no yeah I would have really liked to have
have had a little bit more incorporation with with Thor's hammer Milnur Milnur it
would have been very cool but I suppose you you can't if that if that's the only
thing that you have a gripe without the entire game it's just yes you know I
mean choose one with the scene that we spoke about where we come up with but
where it would be like if they both hit each other and then the camera panned
round and then you were suddenly for attacking Kratos I think that would have
been really cool but given how you how the stories panned out I don't really
see how that would have worked the trick they missed was that first fight with
Thor and Kratos and they threw the hammer and he threw the axe they hit
each other and then they walked around each other what should have happened
should have swapped to Thor no no they should have thrown a hammer throwing the
axe they're talking and they're walking and fucking Kratos gets the hammer and
he gets the axe and they go at each other yeah you've got that it's mad but yeah
that that's one of the coolest scenes in the game there and every time you go
back to Midgard and you see that frozen thunderbolt yeah that you caused when
you yeah there's there's there's lore that you find out surrounding Thor Milnur
the Leviathan axe itself and things like that that I I don't think you would have
come across it because I think it's part of a side story mission no I will do it
but when when whenever you do do it you'll know what I'm on about when it
happens but nothing theatrical but message me when you find when when you
come across it because it for me it was very much like a fucking hell really
like wow that's very cool and even like the characters in the game was shocked
by so is little things like that peppered in just like I can't even
remember the side mission it was where I've received this law from it was at
the end of a quest chain but yeah I'm just obsessed with those side missions
man I think I think you're in for a treat playing them again I can't see I'm
interested to see how they pan out now that the Trius isn't there that's what I'm
confused about but obviously Santa Monica being Santa Monica they won't
have made it so that you can go back and do them all and it like not work like a
try isn't gonna pop up out of nowhere they've obviously thought of this one
whether you just do it with Freya or whatever yeah it's I feel like there's
so much to talk about but that first switch when you start it because you
you're listening to Kratos talking to Mamiya and and then Sinjri comes around
and he's like couldn't sleep and you make a trash jump and then you when you
were a Trius yeah but you like crawl along and you see Brock and he ducks
down and then I thought what's this awkward pause for because they're just
like I was like move down looks to move forward I was like what the fuck I'm playing as a Trius what the hell
I thought it was the cutscene still and they made it very very made him very
playable because I don't know if you noticed but they they scaled down the
enemies for when you play as a Trius so you kill them a lot quicker your attacks
feel a lot a lot heavier as they should they didn't make it as difficult as the
shit that you were fighting as Kratos he's just feels so much more nimble he's
like why more nimble diving around where's Curtis he's like slow and
deliberate I'm gonna be wrong I prefer playing Kratos I think what what did you
use weapon wise more consistently everyone has a favor I started off with
the axe and then moved on to the blades it I think the blades are mainly just
for when these large groups people to try and keep some groups off here
because you can get overwhelmed I played on normal bro and I'm ashamed to say how
many times I died that game is hard I died a lot there's some times where I'm
like surely it's not this hard then then berserkers on give me god of war mode I
don't know how the fuck anyone's supposed to do them because that yeah
those enemies are difficult all the other enemies were difficult I died
countless times thank fuck for that resurrection stone yeah because I used
that a hell of a lot but I superior resurrect yeah yo yeah I used the blades
chaos the most I love the blood out of everything drop near spear very very
cool yeah very cool weapon I didn't really get along with the mechanics of
using it but I killed Odin with that spear I don't know why I just seemed to
do the most amount of damage and was the easiest thing to use yeah I weren't
expecting that as a weapon if I'm honest I really weren't Heimdall was very good
as well yeah he's acting was oh yeah when he fucking when he lands that punch
on him that's the bit that was spoiled for me because I was I wasn't anywhere
near as God yet but try us hadn't even entered as God and I was scrolling
through tick-tock and a video come up of them fighting of Heimdall and Kratos
fighting and I quickly scrolled past it and I was a bit like fucking hell
because obviously that like the gates has already been introduced but I wasn't
expecting a fight like that I thought that was fucking cool when he obviously
when he hit his braces and I thought he's landed a hit and then the next bit
you fucking crack his cheekbone open I was like what the fuck this guy's is
nuts and nothing can stop this man and then you fucking beat the shit out of
him and then when you kill it kill him I was like what the fuck he lost it so
obviously he's not supposed to I was like no now that also now see Ragnarok's
about the fucking beginning you've done it Ragnarok himself that was nuts yeah
that's crazy fucking Valkyrie you have to fight up there man oh well as you
struggle with them yeah they're fucking pain in the ass man blades of chaos man I'm telling you I
leveled up all my shit I was fucking wailing on him that that that area alone
when you walk out of the cave and then it's just like space I was like this
place is gorgeous like this looks this is incredible
yeah he's crazy oh yeah he wasn't a nice guy like Ragnarok he's a bit of a weirdo
they sort of didn't really close up on that what they did but they didn't
obviously Freya Freya Freya I really don't know how you say it without
talking about the other Freya obviously he's died from the Freya
brother Freya from Ragnarok which I suppose does clear up what really
happened to Ragnarok but it does it doesn't really it doesn't it doesn't
Freya brother Freya gives you the flying boat yeah you don't use it again you
have used it I used it I used it one other time to cross to traverse over a
certain part of the map and that was it haven't used it again since whether
there's other parts but I but no didn't didn't really bother that was cool I
like that yeah weren't expecting it was very cool one moment that does stand out
to me that you probably didn't pay much attention to it did make me laugh was
you where you get on like a little train ride thing and you're going up mmm and
the train stops and there's a fucking no no they're all jumping in all these
monsters and you're trying to pull the brake then the brake snaps then the
fucking train just burst open and there's a fucking humongous troll in
there he grabs you and yeah crows up you know boss fight now crows just chops his
head off yeah then you fight them in the in the goal you came before this time
he's just like no I'm not fucking yeah I'm not dealing with your shit it just chops him up
yeah them trolls went down a lot easier this time around than in the last game
100% I think there was there's still you I don't know if you would have noticed
it at the very beginning obviously you have the chests where you have to hit
the rooms don't you and there's ones where you have to hit them and there's
ones we have to set on fire there's other ones right at the beginning there's
one there and it's it's nothing it's little stones with like blue light
flashing on them I don't know how you do them because I haven't got I still
haven't unlocked anything to do them and I haven't googled it
you're not just the runic arrows no no tried them there's a good couple it
might be I might just be doing it wrong but there's a good couple of chests I've
come across where it's like no can't do them can't touch any of that there's a
there's quite a few little bits where because I think I've probably explored
I'm gonna say 90% of the game of what it has to offer me so there's really not a
lot left but there's definitely bits that I have visited but couldn't quite
get through because I hadn't unlocked the spear yet or the bow so that I just
haven't returned to yet but yeah there's definitely shit that that I'm excited to
go back to I think this game's just incredible I think when I first started
playing I was really conflicted as to whether this would get game of the year
or Elden Ring and I think having finished God of War I think God of War
will take it because the story alone it's just incredible it's gut-wrenching
really properly gut-wrenching you go back to Kratos in the first one and how
he is at the start with I'll try as to how he is now and he's like it's just
complete arc with him in him within himself yeah well he becomes a father
I think it's the well like one of the very last scenes with him and Atreus
together where he's he apologizes and he's like I was wrong don't close your
heart he's like open it open it to everything around you that the world see
it and he's like cuz that's who who you are and I think towards the end Kratos
finally like lets Faye deal with it all the things that Faye told him and he's
sort of ignored and gone that Spartan way with with bringing up Atreus and it
was nice to see at the end that he sort of abandons that and he's like no
Atreus you you're your own man you do your own thing you are you are who Faye
taught you to be so be it very cool Faye was a very cool character yeah played
by Deborah Anne from Daredevil very cool looks like that as well very
cool I really enjoyed fighting the wolf in Hillheim yeah Garm that was fucking
that was so cool this is how I know how much I really like this game because I
never remember names and I remember a good fucking 80% of the names here Garm
and then when you turn him into Fenrir I weren't expecting that I was like how
fucking cool was that oh no I was expecting that I also knew as soon as
you put that soul into this snake that that was gonna be Jorg Munda yeah I knew
that was gonna be the world serpent but the world so this is what I don't
understand because the world serpent was already there it's Ragnarok it loops
time loops because Jorg Munda is supposed to be Loki's son oh yeah yeah
didn't think of it that way Ragnarok's supposed to happen and then the world like loops round again
yeah yeah yeah so yeah that was so yeah and that's such a head fuck so you got the first God
2018 God of War the world serpents there but and you're a kid as Atreus but you
it's actually you that is the reason why the world serpents there yeah I don't
know if that's the law they're going with in this in this game but that's how
it's pretty sure in Norse mythology that's how I think that sort of them I
think that is the law they went with because when you have the final battle
obviously you see for fighting the world serpent such and and Atreus does go ah
that's that was me so he's aware that that is the the snake's quite as easy
looks different yeah very very fucking cool very cool and then even when they
put Odin into one of those orbs and Sindri just comes out of nowhere and
he's like what does he say that's what that's what you expect or something like
that he says one final line straightaway this bit yeah just gone yeah
fucking about Sindri's you broken man he's done it he turns up at the end for
Ragnarok then he opens a door fucks off opens door fucks off he turns up for the
funeral and then fucks off very quickly he's very upset man very sad but very
good game very good game exceeded my expectations plus s plus it's plus plus
it is one of the very fine it's one of the very few games where it has surpassed
the hype that was around it and a lot of games like this you get such big hype
for it and it just falls short and from the first five minutes of playing God of
War Ragnarok you knew that this was living up to the hype and it was going
further than that hype I've it's been a long long time since I've played a game
like this and been so invested with the story and so excited to come back and
play it and never know what's gonna happen do you know and I played it with
Steph again like the last of us part two I sat there in my chair in front of the
telly angled off to the side so that Steph could actually see partly of what
was going on and she experienced a lot of it with me and and and it just a
fucking awesome game and that is the type of game that will go down in history
100% I'll never forget it never never and I'm so happy that I'm not rubbing it
in but I'm so happy that I have something like the collector's edition
to remember that game by because such a fucking good game I haven't bought that
because you would never be able to get it again you'll be able to sell it for
loads of money I've got that because I felt that Santa Monica studios deserved
that money from me for the effort they've put into this game and I'm so
happy that I've got that memorabilia of this game because it's just fucking nuts
it will win game of the year I think it should this but it's also that recency
bias I mentioned before because at the time Elden Ring was just something else
and that will still come back to Elden Ring still is fucking something yeah it's
still it's still up there like it's in its own category of absolute nuts that
will go down in history as well it's hard because you can't compare them
they're different games completely different great that God of War is it's just
phenomenal story and combat but the only thing I could do is the is the puzzles
right but you need them to break it up yeah but they weren't even they weren't
even that bad it's not bad I just get a bit I'm not another one we've got
fucking push a block around or whatever it's there was there was a couple with
like the runic arrows and the fire linking up there was a couple that a
bit like fucking hell this is really difficult but overall yeah it was
decent I don't think there's anything in Ragnarok where I wouldn't want to see it
or I think I'd be better off without it I think overall fantastic oh 100% the
but Agrabod is on here as well the big oh yeah that was well she was a big
motherfucker running around feeling like a little ant in her massive cups and
bowls and shit like that yeah she was cool the whole the whole story of it I
would like to see more of Agraboda's world yeah obviously she's a giant I
would I would like to explore that I would like to see more Freya now that
she's a Valkyrie I think that would be very cool and I'd like to see Frodo's a
Valkyrie as well because obviously her mum I can't remember her name Sif Sif is
like I want you to be a Valkyrie but not under Odin so it'll be cool to see that
I'm sort of trying to wrap it up a bit because I really need a piss yeah so
right before we go it's your favorite moment you stand out my favorite moment
the whole game in the whole game I know there's millions and this is just if you
had to pick one killing Heimdall fighting him being the one to land land
the only person ever to land a hit on Heimdall and then to kill him you know
I mean this geezer thinks that he's top of the world he is number one no one
can fucking touch him and then Kratos comes out of nowhere and just fucks him
up with quite ease and I thought that that to me it was a turning point in the
whole war factor of it that was when Ragnarok was set in stone I was like
right well this is the path we're now going down he didn't want to do it but
that that God of War in him come out blows the whole other very last minute I
said to Steph I was like if you had that horn you would be tempted to just give
it a little little see how much of a blow it really needs to set things off
because if it's just like a little gust of wind to go through it and that sets
off Ragnarok but yeah that was my favorite my favorite part yours it'd
probably be what we discussed last week where you think you've failed the
quick time event and yeah I was like no I say when we're done and brings you
back to life yeah one of my favorite things to do at the moment is to watch
YouTube videos of people react into it because it is hilarious everyone's like
ah yeah I thought I was dead as well as I was like fuck I was like I was definitely
mashing circle what's going on I didn't want to tap it that I don't play my controller
it's like no it's forced decision very cool I really like the way Odin takes
you in Ravens yeah it's very cool I love everything but it's a fantastic game
fantastic game I think it might be one of the only single-player games where I
could probably play it again s plus plus plus the highest possible
rating I can give a computer game and we'll leave it there yeah we will thanks
for joining us yeah we appreciate everyone listening if you haven't got a
war Ragnarok yet and you're humming and haring about it fucking get it it's
fantastic game but yeah we'll leave it there we'll probably talk about a bit
more next week maybe next week when I do a warzone spoiler cast love it can't
wait that's a joke you can't spoil it more you fucking can all right mom yeah
sweet all right thanks for joining us Oro Oro