It's your intro you fucking idiot. No, it's not. It is. So what episode are we on? Seven? Seven? You started
One. Yeah. You. Me. You. Me. You. Me. You. So now it's me. Oh, yeah, we got there, Ian.
You know what that could actually work as an intro.
Hi!
Starting off with an argument
You're listening to What's the Buttons. My name is Rhys with me. I have Ash. That was the intro
We're gonna talk about some shit. We just don't know what shit we're gonna talk about
Join us for the next hour
Here comes the intro
What's the Buttons?
It's getting real lackadaisical with the intros. That's the word of the day by the way. Lackadaisical.
It's very hot and sweaty.
I know. It is warm in here.
We're literally sitting in an oven just to not have it echoey for you like.
I opened the windows to let some cool air in. It was worse. I promise you it was a lot worse.
I don't know about that.
I just set up my fantasy football team.
Yes you did.
It's called the Stinky Loggers. It's the first time I've ever done it.
I can feel myself getting into football a little bit this year.
It's quite weird. I'm actually gonna go and watch football tomorrow.
I'm a changed man.
You're gonna be buying FIFA 23, aren't you?
Never say never.
I'd love to see that. Please.
Ridiculous. Maybe if it's in the bargain bucket which I'm sure it will be.
Eventually it will be.
You sent me a list of things that we're gonna talk about because we do put some thought into this.
Believe it or not.
The first thing up was Starfield.
Well done.
It's not really an intro. What have we been doing this week?
How are we feeling?
Sorry. I've already fucked up. It says intro waffle on the first.
We're giving away all the trade secrets.
Jesus Christ.
No we don't need an editor.
Look at this top quality merchandise.
I had someone message me privately not long ago and they asked if they could be an editor.
She was a very nice lady.
I hope she does very well.
I basically said no we don't need one at the moment. We can handle it.
Well, proof is in the pudding when you listen to this podcast.
Because if this sounds any fucking decent it means that we can handle it.
If it doesn't sound decent it means we need help.
It's top quality.
Top fucking quality.
This is at the top of the leaderboards.
This is what the pros do.
Yeah, kinda.
In a roundabout way.
Maybe hold off on that Patreon for GoPros because you ain't seeing much.
Nah, just a mess.
Loads of pop figures.
My swimming shorts are behind this man.
And there's a wall of Styrofoam next to me.
What are we doing?
I don't know.
What have you been doing this week?
No Man's Sky.
Oh fuck's sake.
Nonstop. I think I've clocked in.
I've gone over the 30 hour mark I think now.
Jesus Christ.
I've more than doubled my game time since we last spoke.
Man's gotta get that copper.
It's gone a bit crazy to be fair.
Like I said before we started I've got a fleet of 16 strong frigates that I'm sending out on all sorts of missions.
And half of them are coming back broken but they're going out nonetheless.
It's good.
I respect the hustle and the grind.
I've missed out on two missions to get some frigate modules.
I was fuming. I didn't realise that those Nexus missions fuck off after about five minutes.
You've got to grab them while they're there.
Didn't know that.
Getting white as hot.
Well lost out.
Last week I went on my wedding anniversary.
I told you I'd keep you updated.
We went to a spa day.
That sounds too happy.
It was very awkward.
It was very uncomfortable.
I was getting into massages I wasn't expecting.
It was front, wasn't it?
Yeah so I laid down front ways so I had a back massage.
But then the next massage I had to turn around the other way.
Problem being although I'm middle aged man I'm still very childish of the mind.
So then I started getting a bit giggly and I had to really really hold in.
The boner.
No. Not at all.
It was quite the opposite actually.
I was so just awkward.
I don't know man the motions that were going on in my fingers just made me laugh.
I had to hold it in.
It wasn't comfortable.
No it was about to get very awkward.
I thought a grown man is just going to burst out laughing in a minute.
I'm going to have to leave the room and they're going to be like what on earth is going on.
So I had to really focus on not laughing.
So we left there after a couple of hours.
And we went to Nerdbase to sponsor us.
That's a little plug there straight away.
To be honest we need to let them know that we exist.
Because they're not going to sponsor us because they don't even know we exist at the moment.
So we went there. I bought nothing.
Then we had a pub lunch. It was delicious.
We went home, stuck Pirates of the Caribbean on and fell asleep for about three hours.
I woke up and I played a bit of Yakuza but we'll talk about that later anyway.
And that everyone is marriage.
Yeah and it's lovely.
That's how it works.
I also went back to the gym this week for the first time properly since coronavirus hit the world.
And yeah I'm a little bit sore.
But I'm enjoying it and getting back into it.
And yeah it's very good. Very good for you mentally and physically.
I've given him a little gaming chair as a replacement for the chair that he was sitting in to make him a little bit more comfortable.
But I know that they don't hold.
There's not a lot of room on them chairs for the biggest of bodies.
So I'm hoping we'll see progress in terms of muscle by the next month or two he won't fit in the chair.
Yeah I'm already quite a decent.
It's already quite a struggle.
Yeah I feel bad for this one. This is brand new and my fat arse barely fits in it.
Whoopsie daisy.
There you go.
That was an intro.
Yeah it was. I told you.
Bit more chit chat. Now we can move on to it.
And it's a big surprise because it's Starfield.
Woo.
Now I saw that coming.
So yeah go on.
This is your show.
All it is, is I've read an article.
It's our show by the way.
This is a joint effort.
Yeah but it's your turn.
It's my turn.
And basically I've read an article.
Can I just comment on how we're sitting in these chairs.
I'm so tired.
That one leans all the way. That's like a bed that one.
Is it? How does it go back?
Yeah there's like an extra bit on like for the legs.
Ow.
It does go all the way back.
No that's down.
Is there another lever?
There is another lever somewhere. It does go back because I did it.
I can't. Son I had to do it mum.
Just leave it.
Just leave it. I've got to sort it out now. I'm too small now.
You're pulling the amp.
This is fucking ridiculous.
Ah yeah. There we go. Now I'm too high.
What was I saying? Starfield. Lovely.
There's I basically just read an article that talks about how there's a potential for there to be a survival type of gameplay.
Which I think is quite a good little subject to speak on because I used to fucking hate that aspect of games.
Any game that involved having to eat and fucking water myself and make sure I had a shower and a shit and sleep enough.
I hated it and then No Man's Sky come and made me fucking monitor my shields and my health and all that stuff and I got used to it.
I like it.
Why don't you start a new game on survival mode then?
Fuck that.
I don't like it that much.
I can't be arsed. I can't be bothered with that at all.
I don't like that type of shit.
If I die I want to be able to come back with all my shit.
That sort of thing.
You can. You can come back.
Yeah but it's not permadeath mode.
It's just too hardcore though isn't it?
It's not permadeath.
Look. I'm trying to avoid No Man's Sky.
This is Starfield.
Yeah same thing.
They were saying that they...
I say they.
The entity that is they.
Basically you know Fallout New Vegas had the hardcore mode type thing.
Yes.
Basically that is what some people are hoping for and other people are saying that they like the idea of it.
However it should be an optional theme to have that.
I don't think it should be optional.
I reckon you should have it.
The survival aspect.
Well it depends doesn't it.
I mean if you want to create a game without...
If you're going to create a game an RPG of that scope.
You can't and you want to implement survival mechanics.
To get the best of the survival mechanics the game needs to be built from the ground up with survival mechanics in mind.
Because when you just start adding the extra option for survival mechanics and just going you can toggle it on and off.
Now all of a sudden you've got a little meat and it means you need to eat an apple every now and again.
It's not really survival mechanics is it.
It's just another thing that you've got to do.
Yeah.
So if you're going to do survival modes I think it needs to be either implemented permanently throughout or built with the option of having it toggled on.
But really built with that in mind.
Like I say because Skyrim got a survival mode probably inspired by the survival mods that came before it.
And yeah don't get me wrong it's ok.
It is essentially just tacked on. Eat an apple. Eat some water.
It's probably doing it a bit of a disservice actually because you have to keep warm and stuff like that.
You can get too hot.
But yeah you need to create the game with survival in mind.
Starfield having it I'm not so sure. I think it needs it.
I mean you're already in space.
You know you've done pretty well to survive that well. That far.
Do you need to eat an apple?
All it is is there the you can get special.
Didn't mute my phone did I?
Turn it on silent.
You're checking yours as well.
I didn't mute my phone. That's really bad.
Oh fuck it.
Meme.
They were talking. Fucking they.
The article I was reading was talking about how in Starfield they have different skills that you are able to get.
And like the first one you have access to is called Gastronomy.
Which is about food. Food and drinks.
And it's the ability to learn special recipes.
Basically a fucking cooking book.
You get to learn new shit in terms of cooking and people were saying that they would quite like the idea of venturing around space.
And going to all these alien chefs and having food made for them with special buffs and shit like that.
I don't know if that seems a bit skew if. Seems like it could get boring real quick.
I don't know. It's more appealing than just telling you that you're hungry and you need to eat something.
And just going into your inventory and choosing one of the 400 food items in your inventory to eat.
It's a bit pointless like I say. It's a bit tacked on.
If there's actually quests that are designed for it.
And actually an in depth food system.
Then maybe it can be more interesting.
They can go a lot further with it than just eating anyway.
But yeah it needs to be built up properly rather than just tacked on in my opinion.
But I don't think Starfield needs it.
But if it gets it you know is it going to be a toggle on toggle off thing?
I'm going to love it regardless. I'm in space.
Just give me a fucking lightsaber. That's all I care about.
If they get it then it would be good.
If it is a case of so the resources you would need to keep yourself fed and all that shit.
If they were plentiful in some respect.
So you weren't fucking spending hours trying to find a loaf of bread.
You know what I mean.
So have the survival mechanics of it.
But don't make it fucking impossible to actually keep up with the survival mechanics.
Don't make it a second job.
Like no man's sky.
That's the problem with it. That's the complete opposite to what I want.
If it's going to be survival mechanic make it so you are scrambling around.
Like fuck I need a drink or I need to eat.
Oh yeah but that takes the fun out of it doesn't it?
Yeah but then why bother if you're just going to select an apple out of the million things in your inventory.
No man it's an article I've read.
Exactly. So you're just going through the menus and you're eating shit that you've got thousands of.
It takes away the point of it being survival.
So there has to be like a fine middle ground there somewhere.
Or just turn it off.
Yeah just turn the fucking thing off.
That's that conundrum sorted.
I'm trying to think of what other games have had survival mechanics in.
Red Dead?
Yeah that was rubbish.
They really shouldn't have bothered personally with that.
Daisy?
Yeah Daisy the game is built on that though. That's done well.
Daisy's done well because you really are.
Fucking annoying yeah.
Yeah but you're really searching and you're eating.
There's times where you're like I love this character I've got so much stuff I don't want to die.
All that's around me is human flesh.
And then someone takes your plum.
Yeah and then you kill them and then you eat them.
You can eat human flesh but you know that you'll get ill.
And then you start going crazy you start laughing and hysterically like.
I never got that far. I just kept running around trying to find plums and went this is fucking wank I can't bother.
Oh Daisy is great. Daisy is so good.
Me and Mark didn't like it.
Fuck Mark.
Whatever. I don't care.
I like it.
Sick game.
I only played it because of H1Z1 it just weren't my cup of tea.
Very good game. Very good game.
Underrated actually.
But yeah that's I think yeah 100%.
That's survival mechanics done well.
When did you play it? I guess you didn't play on PS5.
60 FPS now.
Very nice. Very smooth.
What Daisy?
No I think I did play it on PS5.
No I think I did but I really didn't play it long.
I really didn't.
I remember getting hold of a gun with no ammo and then getting my head fucking caved in with a shovel or some shit and I thought I can't bother.
It's a very steep learning curve.
But it's very addictive.
Yeah that's probably survival done right.
But then like that whole game is designed around survival.
That is the draw of the game.
There's nothing really else going on other than starting from scratch and trying to build yourself a little empire really.
And starting life for as long as possible because once you're dead you're dead.
There is no like you know quitting out and just going oh well I'll come back later.
You'll be coming back as a new fucking dude mate.
Minecraft has got some survival in it has it?
I don't know I haven't played Minecraft before.
Well I have again.
Not my cup of tea.
Yeah I don't know. I can't really think of any more.
There's quite a few out there with survival aspects like Valheim and games like that.
It's just it's one of them where either works or it doesn't.
World of Warcraft.
I won't talk about World of Warcraft itself.
You've completely skipped the next thing.
Have I?
Yeah.
Have I?
Yeah.
Oh.
Sorry.
I didn't realise that.
That's how forgettable this section is.
Well listen.
I don't know anything about this.
We've got to make it last.
We've done it for about 15 minutes deep and we're already on the third subject.
Sorry.
Steph will love this.
I haven't actually heard much about it.
Well nothing about it because it's not my world but go ahead and enlighten me.
I don't know fuck all about either. I just see it.
No Nintendo Switch Pro in 2022.
There's been rumours about Nintendo Switch Pro for quite some time.
For the last couple of years actually.
Obviously they released the Nintendo Switch OLED was it?
Yeah.
Better screen and better battery.
Supposed to be very good.
People that bought it sing its praises.
But for me is it worth buying a whole new Nintendo Switch?
Absolutely fucking not.
No.
I don't play it enough as it is.
I only played it for Star Wars really.
And now that's on the Xbox.
What's the point?
Exactly.
Saying that though.
Nintendo Switch has a massive following.
Steph fucking loves your Switch and I can see why.
It's a very handy bit of kit.
It is but I just find all the games are just very childish.
Very kid like.
Yeah but they've got I thought that but they've got quite a good catalogue of other games.
But some of them play a bit waft.
Yeah that's the problem.
That's the problem with it.
Are you trying to play Apex Legends on the Switch?
Exactly.
Fucking hell.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just awful.
A lot of the games that aren't child like or are targeted at children or young people I guess.
You can play them on better systems.
More comfortable systems.
So you would choose to play Apex on the PlayStation and the Xbox on the PC.
Obviously it's got the advantage of you know you can sit on the shit and play it.
But it's just not comfortable.
I don't like the way to play proper games like that.
It's very uncomfortable on your fingers.
You reckon?
Oh yeah.
Massive.
You need to go to the doctors and get your wrists and your hands checked out because you're too uncomfortable with the most money.
With the most mundane tasks in terms of your hands.
Well I broke my wrist.
So it's very very painful still.
And also I'm old.
So the doctor is going to go there's nothing we can do for you sir.
You're just old and you're getting older and guess what?
It's going to get worse.
So no there's no point going to the doctors to be told what I already know.
So you won't be buying that PlayStation controller for the phone then?
No I did see that actually.
That looks quite cool.
But no no I won't be.
There's no fucking good games on the phone to warrant playing it.
Stuff like that just always ends up.
I don't like really small screens.
And it's just going to make your phone really hot.
It's going to overeat.
And your phone is going to go oh I'm too hot.
You're going to have to stick it in the fridge for ten minutes.
No you have a Samsung.
You ain't on Apple anymore.
That shit doesn't really happen.
I've never had an Apple in my life.
And yes it does happen on Samsung.
I thought you were an iPhone geezer.
I've never had an iPhone in my life.
I don't know you at all.
No you don't.
I don't know who you are.
Learn.
Well I've learned.
Beep boop.
No Nintendo Switch Pro in 2022.
It's not happening.
Um Steam Deck?
Yes Steam Deck might be happening.
Uh yeah.
It looks cool.
I see it a while ago.
Good luck getting one.
Will you just fucking pre-order it?
No you don't.
You do?
Okay go on then.
No you don't do you?
Good luck.
You have to like get specially invited for it.
I know that you can go on the website and it has the breakdown because it's quite cheap.
The base version is like 64 gig and it's like 200 something quid.
But then the 200 no the 500 something gig memory one is like five six hundred quid.
Something like that.
If you don't know what the Steam Deck is it's basically a PC but a handheld version.
It's a very cool bit of kit if I'm honest.
But I feel like not enough people have one to get a valid review on one.
It's perfect for me because I just play football manager on it all the time.
What a waste of money.
Not at all.
You have a laptop in front of you.
You'll be playing football manager soon.
You're basically a football manager now doing Dream Team.
Me and my fucking fantasy football team.
I'm gonna win that money.
If you're listening Martin I'm gonna fucking win all of that money.
It's gonna happen.
Yeah?
Well I saw your team.
All the best.
It's gonna happen.
All the best.
Trust me.
You probably will win.
The stinkiest loggers.
The stinky loggers is gonna claim his 40 quid.
You can't claim him Scott the idiot.
Yeah so Steam Deck I've always been interested in them but once again I don't really like
handhelds.
But they're releasing it in like quarters so they've had two releases so far and then
you can like not pre-order but register for the third release.
I don't really get it.
They're not just releasing them all at once.
They're basically saying here's fucking 100 of them.
We'll see you again in four months.
Yeah they're very hard to come by.
It's very strange.
We're gonna google it now quickly.
Supply and demand isn't it?
Now everyone's gonna want one.
Yeah.
I want one and I don't even need one.
I've got everything I need and that's still not enough.
Get it off of eBay from a scalper.
Nooooo.
Oh sorry my yeah logging.
Well you can reserve it.
Well you can probably reserve a position to wait in line to pre-order.
It's £570 for the 512GB version.
I'm pretty sure that once you get it as well there's like a six month waiting time for
it to even be delivered.
It's nuts.
Yeah it says when inventory is available you'll receive an email and will have 72 hours to
complete your purchase.
Yeah that's very expensive.
£520 I don't know if I'll be paying that.
Well I know I will.
£570.
I would not be paying that.
£570 big ones.
There's a lot of games that I think because as far as I'm aware it's Steam Deck.
It's called Steam Deck for a reason being that it's got the Steam library on it.
Yeah.
But it's not got all the Steam library on it.
Not every game is compatible.
However there are many games that I would love to play and would much prefer to play
them on a Steam Deck rather than a laptop.
But then once again I'm already spoilt for choice and I always want what I don't have.
And then when I get it I'm like nah I need something new.
So it has most of the Steam library on it and I was reading a Reddit thread that was
from a guy who said that you can get like emulators and stuff and you can get like Origin
and fucking other platforms on there but it seemed like an absolute ball ache to get any
of that on there.
You know what I mean?
Like you've got to be somewhat technical to get all this shit on there and it seemed a
bit...
But I like the look of it.
I'm tempted by it.
I probably won't buy it.
Don't do it.
Don't buy it.
It's not worth it at the moment.
In my opinion I wouldn't.
But I know what you like.
You do you King.
Nah I'm not spending £507.
Because I'd get the...
If I was going to get it you'd get the biggest version of it for the sake of £100.
Just remember...
£200.
Sunshine always comes after the rain.
Where's this going?
Nah I'm just telling you.
And...
Cold potatoes are not hot.
What's happened to this?
Blizzard cancelled World of Warcraft mobile game.
What the fuck's going on?
Just some knowledge.
Just some knowledge for you.
Right.
Really trying to scrape through.
Not at all.
We're both tired.
I'm tired for some reason.
You're tired because I'm dragging you down.
No no no no.
I should be well...
Sorry I need to rehydrate.
Two seconds.
Continue.
I listened to a podcast called Another One podcast.
And when we started doing this podcast I got it in my head.
I was like it needs to be perfect.
We need to get rid of...
Cancel as much background noise out as possible.
First couple of episodes I think we did pretty well with that.
Soundproof the room as best I can with the abilities that I have.
And then I started listening to another one.
The geezer gets up and goes to the toilet mid podcast and leaves it running.
You hear him flush the toilet.
He does this almost every episode.
And I think that's inspired me and this podcast to just allow the little things to come.
I can hear his chair fucking squeaking.
He's rubbing his mic cable along the fucking desk.
I can hear it through my earphones.
I don't know what it's going to sound like on the final edit but I'm sure it's going to be there.
He's just drunk into the microphone.
He's blowing his fucking vape juice into the mic.
You know what I mean?
I don't know what's happened.
I don't know what's going on.
I kind of enjoy it.
I thought we'd have a million subscribers by now.
I don't understand.
Well even then if we do end up it's not going to change.
No.
Why would we bother?
They're here from the bottom of the barrel dross.
You know what I mean?
They're here to listen.
We are gutter tier.
And if you hear a bit of squeaking in the background who gives a fuck?
Exactly.
So be it.
Welcome to the bottom of the barrel.
You're going to have to listen to it.
You're going to have to deal with it Dean.
And just listen to the fucking squeaking of this chair.
Alright mate?
Alright.
You're calling Dean out again.
Has he listened to the last one?
Yeah he loves it mum.
He loves it.
And he'll love this one.
You don't know.
Squat dilly ot.
Shout out Connor.
Since he's been crying about it for the last month.
The old conrod.
Yeah not that Connor.
Oh.
My brother in law Connor.
Oh apologies.
Yeah.
He wants to be on the podcast.
Yeah he can come.
He can give us £400 to get him on the podcast because that's what it costs.
Yeah it ain't cheap.
Realise that.
Understand this.
You dickhead.
We made a mistake when we bought the gear for the...
We're sitting here about fucking go put the phone away.
We made a mistake.
A little bang there.
I won't edit that out.
I'll leave that.
We made a mistake.
Fuck it.
I'll do one.
We made a mistake when we bought the gear and we only bought an interface that lets
us plug in two mics.
That wasn't a mistake.
It was a two man band.
Yeah.
Now imagine if we had a third screaming at each other constantly.
Just pass the mic to him.
Steph said this.
I think it'd be horrible.
It would be horrible but there you go.
So £400 if you want to get yourself on the podcast.
If you got £400 spare I'd rather just put it straight in my pocket rather than make
us buy some equipment.
But if you want to be on it, it's £400.
People don't realise how expensive it is to get another person on this fucking popular
platform.
This is the last episode of Matarun I've had enough.
What a waste of time.
This is seven weeks or more than that because it took us about 11 weeks ago we started the
idea.
Took us a while.
We got everything up and running.
We've not got a million followers, views, listens, nothing.
Not even close.
I don't understand.
I thought this shit was easy.
Yeah, not a penny has gone into my pocket.
Pennies have left.
They haven't come back.
It's just outgoing.
It's time investment.
It's money investment.
It's emotional investment.
It's giving me headaches.
I'm getting anxiety.
I'm sweating right now.
My muscles are hurting.
I'm sitting like I'm all bent up in this chair.
It's not comfortable.
I mean, it's just not worth it.
So this is the I'm gone.
These chairs are awful for posture.
They're comfy as fuck.
But you know what I mean?
They make you jump around.
I feel like we've really, really.
I can't leave.
I've invested too much.
We've really dropped down.
Let's pull it back.
That was a bit of just a bit of fun.
Just a little bit of fun.
Anyway, the energy is back now.
The World of Warcraft mobile game that has now been canceled was called Warcraft Arclight
Rumble.
And you could pre-register your interest in it.
And I did just for the sake of it.
It's been it's been fucked off.
Essentially, Blizzard have a partnership with a company called NetEase.
Basically, they're there.
Well, they've been partnered since 2008.
And NetEase have a massive market in the mobile gaming industry, like worth fucking serious
money.
So it made sense that Blizzard would try and break into the mobile gaming industry.
They did that with Diablo Immortal, which received a shit ton of backlash because it's
pay to win.
And it is pay to win.
You loved it.
You loved it for the first like week or two weeks.
Me and Steph went to Lanzarote for her birthday, sat in the room playing that the entire time.
It was fantastic.
But we haven't touched it fucking basically since we got off the plane.
You know what I mean?
It's just.
Will you be playing the new Diablo, the proper one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I think Diablo.
I like Diablo.
Diablo 3 was very good.
It was very good.
Diablo 4 looks also fantastico.
That's that is coming out on the I don't know, 2023.
So that's all we got for that.
But that's excited for stuff that says this is the problem.
What are we?
Where's all the games?
We get a big splurge of them.
Too much to play and then nothing.
Yeah.
And I'm just bored.
Yeah.
You wait till Dragonfly comes out.
The expansion for World of Warcraft.
When does that come out?
They say December, but it won't be till 2023.
It'll get delayed.
Well, that'll do you good because you got you got to tackle God of War yet.
No fucking hell.
Yeah.
You know, that's the next big game.
That's what people are waiting for.
I've just remembered the game.
Haven't actually taken my money for that either.
So that at some point, three hundred and something quid is going to go exiting out of my fucking bank account.
If you hope it does.
It fucking better.
I've got the email confirmation and everything.
If that are who who who who I'll be fuming.
Who?
Yeah, that game got canceled.
Warcraft Arclight Rumble got canceled.
Everyone thinks it's a bit.
They have come out and said that there's nothing wrong.
Our partnership is is perfectly fine.
The relationship is steady between Blizzard and NetEase.
Now, a lot of games get into development and then get canned before they even come out.
It happens quite often.
It's quite a normal thing.
And usually what happens is the people that they have working on those games, if it if it flops, they just re divert those resources somewhere else onto another game or doing whatever.
This time around, though, NetEase have sacked off over a hundred people of that development team.
They're just gone.
They didn't give them jobs back.
They just went near.
Don't need you anymore.
So that tells me that the relationship between them and Blizzard isn't so cushy because they've just sacked off pretty much the entire team that was working on that game.
I say there must be a serious development team to sack a hundred people.
Well, they're big.
They are big.
But yeah, a hundred hundred people.
It was over a hundred people and something like only five percent of them got offered a job doing something else within within that company.
Everyone else was basically fucked off.
See you later.
Go somewhere else.
Stop.
Stop doing that.
Clicking.
I love it.
Stop fiddling with that.
You're rambling, bro.
I'm bored.
No, I don't know anything about World of Warcraft.
What was the mobile game name?
Warcraft Arclight Rumble.
It's a mouthful.
I could have told you it'd be canned just from the name alone.
It's a terrible name.
It's a lot, isn't it?
I don't know what where it's come from.
It's not just World of Warcraft mobile.
That is a dumb, isn't it?
I don't know.
It was meant to be set in that universe, but a different time period.
I wasn't really that high.
What was it supposed to be?
Was it supposed to be an actual MMO?
Was it supposed to be a card game?
Was it supposed to be?
Fucking no.
It just looked like just a generic mobile game.
It didn't look good.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't going to fucking break records.
Pull up no trees.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not disappointed, to be honest with you.
What I am disappointed about still is Star Wars.
Knights of the Old Republic.
It's not coming back.
It will come back.
Anakin came back.
It'll be dead.
Anakin came back.
Anakin's not dead.
It's already dead.
It's not dead.
There's hope.
They will come back.
They will come back and they will make it lovely and fluffy and warm.
And I'll live in there for at least three months and it will be toasty.
Speaking of Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars The Old Republic, the MMO.
Yeah.
It's not looking too great at the moment.
Apparently.
What one you're playing?
Well, I haven't played it in a long time, but yeah.
Why is it not looking good?
It's looking like the main director guy has just left and a few other people are left.
And this the general consensus is there might be limping to its final destination.
It's been out for a long time.
And it looks it.
However, someone has suggested or implied that there is a possibility that they could.
They probably won't, but they could try and reboot it.
Releasing it on consoles.
Imagine if they released that on the PlayStation 5 or the Xbox Series X.
I promise you this podcast would be a waste of time because I would never play another game ever again.
This podcast is a waste of time anyway.
We're talking to the never know what I mean.
No, it's just our mates.
We're just taking a piss out of this fucking nerds.
No, because even that's got even that's wilted down.
It's only the select few that take the piss.
Everyone else has stopped taking the piss.
They've got bored as well.
Except I listen no more.
This is the novel he's worn off of us being twats.
Yeah, that will be exciting though.
If that if that I'll give you that if that comes out on console, that will be very, very fucking cool.
This is what I'm saying.
Unique is what it will be.
You saying and I will never have it.
You will never convince me otherwise.
All right, you will never convince you can try.
You can try right now because I know you're going to because you're going to be on me.
There is no reason World of Warcraft cannot be on consoles.
Talking shit.
There is no reason.
No reason at all.
ESO can be on consoles.
Knights of the Old Republic could be on consoles.
There is no reason World of Warcraft could not be on consoles.
They could have a dumbed down version.
They could remove certain things.
It's already done as fuck.
Well, there was no reason you can do the toolbar system that you have.
You could even write you could even just give me just give me your number one reason right off the rip.
Right.
Just straight off the top of the dome.
Boom, boom, boom.
What is your number one reason that World of Warcraft cannot come to console?
Too many abilities.
Right.
OK.
So make World of Warcraft come to consoles, but you can only use it with keyboard support.
You can use a keyboard on consoles.
What would be the point?
Why not?
Because you're playing it on a massive television and you just got a keyboard.
Yeah, but you can just plug your fucking HDMI into the laptop or computer and then boom, you're playing it on a massive television.
But it's completely different.
I get what you mean.
Because how am I going to play on the television on my laptop?
I've got a big old heavy laptop.
You haven't fucking played it long enough to understand that Blizzard are not going to invest money into that.
They've barely got any money to stay alive now, let alone fucking.
I bet they have because you just pumped 100 quid down on some shitty old expansion that you're not really that bothered about.
You're getting you're pretending in your own brain.
I'm so hyped in reality.
We know that you're not.
It's going to be fun.
You want God of War Ragnarok.
That's all you want.
All right.
You're living in space.
You're in no man's sky.
You're just bored and for there's nothing to buy.
What else can I waste my money on?
World of Warcraft fucking hovercraft edition.
Have you seen my Dunharrow King Funko Pop?
Very cool.
It's very cool.
Yeah, very cool.
One that off of eBay, not nerd base eBay.
Well, sorry.
You've missed.
I just weren't listening because I because you're talking shit.
Because it's facts.
There's facts.
I'm excited for it, but it's not happening for another fucking six months.
So what am I getting excited about now?
Regardless.
Why can't it come to console?
Because it just won't.
Why?
There's no point.
It's too established as a PC game.
There's no point of it coming to fucking console.
Of course there is.
Look how many people they're missing out on in the market.
No.
What do you mean no?
That's not an answer.
Just no.
There's millions and millions and millions of people that do not play PC.
I wouldn't want them to.
I would rather.
You're selfish prick.
No, I would rather.
They invested that time into doing a different game and putting it on the console instead.
Why?
You're so fucking moody when you're tired and achy.
I'm not moody.
You're just not coming at me with a reason that they can't come on to the console.
There's obviously a reason.
They haven't done it yet.
Have they?
Well, like you just said, they won't do it because they don't need to.
They don't.
They don't need to.
So all that untapped money and resources they could consume.
Yes, but Blizzard as an entity are a bit thick anyway.
The game itself as a whole hasn't got that much.
I reckon after Dragonfly it's done.
I reckon that's it.
If Dragonfly comes out and it's not immediately amazing, that's it.
It's dead.
One hundred percent.
You know, I mean, there's especially with things like Starfield coming out, how good
No Man's Sky is at the moment.
They don't have the ability to recover.
There's been previous expansions.
Warlords of Draenor was one.
It come out was absolute wank.
That was basically when I stopped and they very, very nearly didn't recover.
They went down to like four million players, which is a lot of people.
But when you're when you're used to sitting in the 30s or the 40 millions, that's quite
a big decrease.
What was it about that DLC that made you want to stop playing?
What constitutes a good DLC from a bad DLC in an MMO?
Because the way I see it and I know it's very ignorant.
Let me finish.
Is go kill 10 pigs, go collect 10 apples, bring them back, me collect your quest and
your XP.
Yes, I'm being ignorant, but that's what I see from Star Wars.
That's what I see from ESO and that's what I see from World of Warcraft.
So when an when an expansion comes out, is it not just new location, more of the same?
It is the the whole package in terms of the release of it, how the servers fare with it.
So it's notorious that when a new expansion releases on World of Warcraft, the servers,
they just go to shit.
Either you can't actually play it on day one or when you get in, it's laggy as fuck.
Things are glitched out.
You have to wait for for a patch, which normally takes a week for things to actually work.
It's they they there's only been a very rare like one or two expansion releases where it's
actually been a decent release where you could play it off the bat.
So straight away that turns people off because you get people that are going, oh, the expansion
releases in two weeks.
I'll be playing it in three weeks.
They'll purposely wait.
So you you get things where, yes, it is.
It's an MMO.
So the bread and butter of it, the building blocks, they don't change.
However, the the story behind each expansion and things like that and the new things they
bring in and the old things they take out and the bits that they build on do make it
that that that bit better.
And if they do that type of shit wrong, they don't add anything decent or they add shit
that everyone hates, then it just flops, man.
It just flops like the latest one, Shadowlands.
I know it's old now, but that's the latest expansion that's out at the moment.
And everything's time gated.
You need certain things, but you can only do a certain amount of things once a week
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So everything takes forever.
It's purposely made to get you to max level as quickly as possible and then fucking everything
take as long as possible so that you have to keep fucking paying for game time to play.
It's just very it's just very boring.
So if this next expansion comes out and it's more of the same, I don't think it will survive.
I think people will just go fuck it.
I'm going Final Fantasy instead.
This is another one.
See, like I say, I'm very naive to MMOs, but from my limited experience of ESO,
Night's the Old Republic and my very, very limited time on World of Warcraft, it is all the same.
Now, if you're invested in ESO, which I probably I probably am.
I know more about ESO than I do Star Wars or World of Warcraft just because I played a lot of
Elder Scrolls games.
Star Wars is kind of its own contained thing, so it's not really anything I'd know.
It is all the same.
Go do 10 of this, 10 of that.
I feel MMOs are they target addicted personalities with 100 percent with and also people that
enjoy the number crunching.
Definitely.
There's a very interesting endorphin fly off when you level up on MMOs, much like when you're in
the gym and you come out the gym, you get these endorphins or even when you're in there, you feel
strong, you feel powerful.
It's the same kind of feeling when you level up.
Especially like you're level eight and you have a little look and you're like, oh, level 12, I can
fire a grapple hook and fucking choke someone out.
So when you get to, when you're level 11, you're just over that tipping point to level 12, knowing
you're about to get that cool new thing and it goes bang, little fireworks, you're like yes, and
it lets off the endorphins.
It's very exciting.
Now that grind continues for many people and yeah, I do feel what you say is correct.
They make it so same with Destiny.
You can only do a certain amount of X things a day.
So it means you have to keep going back whether or not you have to pay.
Obviously Destiny hasn't got a subscription service other than like battle passes and things, but
that's different.
That's optional.
But it makes you keep coming back.
And if you keep coming back to do the things that you can't do all in one go, it looks good for them
because their player base is consistently high.
Obviously that player base will drop off.
But the thing I don't like about most games like this, like Destiny 2 is the prime example for me
because out of anything that's close to an MMO, that's the one I've put the most time in, is it
really gives you that horrible feeling of, what is it, FOMO, the fear of missing out.
Oh yeah.
It is a horrific feeling.
So with Destiny, I've said before my biggest problem with it is I'm terrified to have got a
god roll and dismantled it.
So I just literally put everything in my vault.
So half my time is just going through my inventory and checking up that I haven't got
I'm not about to dismantle something really good.
But if I'm not playing it for a day or two, I start getting a bit anxious.
I'm like, I bet I've missed a god roll in the store.
I bet I've done this.
I bet I've done that.
And it makes me kind of not want to go back to it, but also go back to it at the same time.
You know what I mean?
And that's one of the biggest problems for me with Destiny.
And I'm sure, like you say, it's the same for MMOs.
The FOMO is a horrible feeling.
Yep, some it can either be very, very fun because you really enjoy doing that type of shit,
or it will suck the fun out of it fucking quickly.
And it was one of them where I obviously I love doing it because I've been playing World of Warcraft
since it first come out.
So years and years and years and years.
And yeah, as I've as I've grown up with it, the current expansion, they brought out a new area
and I rinsed it real quick because of that exact thing.
I didn't want to fall behind with my guild that I was with.
I wanted to be at the top.
I wanted to progress the furthest and in the quickest time possible so that I wasn't behind anyone else.
I wanted everyone else to be behind me.
And it meant that I just fucking I got bored of it real quick because I've done everything.
I ended up logging in purpose to do the same mundane tasks, 15 quests.
And that's it.
And then logging back off and doing something else.
Something about it makes you come back and if it weren't for my subscription running out,
I would probably still be logging in every day just to say.
But I've been quite good with it and let it run out and haven't bothered going back to it yet.
Because I said to myself, I'm not going to because I was literally sitting there.
Best believe it when I say this last like two weeks of my my subscription,
I was sitting there on the laptop for two, three hours just flicking through characters, not actually doing anything, just wasting time.
And it was yeah, that was the store that broke the camel's back.
I was like, what the fuck am I doing?
Just wasting my time looking at a character screen.
So is it I see it as another way of keeping people in.
So you've got the fear of missing out.
Obviously, you've got the daily tasks, which gives you bonus XP and all that sort of stuff.
You have weekly tasks. Yeah.
You have things you can only do a certain amount of times a day. Yep.
And you'll have other tasks that you can only do a couple of times a day or whatnot, which makes you keep going back.
Yeah. Pile on top of that.
The monetary cost of reality, your time and the money you're you're putting in your your monthly subscription fee.
So you're like, well, I have to go on there because I'm paying for it.
So you worry that you're not using your time because you're paying for it.
So you're wasting your money. This is where they infect your daily life.
They were clever because they got around that 100 percent agree with you.
They made it so that you could buy the currency in World Warcraft is gold, gold, copper and silver standard shit.
They made it so that you could purchase game time with in-game gold.
So you now have people who are who brag going, I haven't paid a subscription for over a year,
but they they neglect to tell you the fact where they've sat there for almost a week farming gold
so that they could pay for a subscription to then sit there and farm for more gold to pay for another subscription.
You know what I mean? So so out of the four weeks they get, they've had to spend about a week.
And if you're like me and you weren't I wasn't good at getting money.
I really weren't. It would take you a lot longer.
So you know, you know, I mean, like you were spending half your subscription just
trying to get more gold to buy a longer subscription.
So that's how they sort of got around that side of it.
Are people who can't afford it, they can just fucking they can they can earn in-game gold to pay for it.
So let's lock in some more players that don't can't afford to play World Warcraft.
You know, I mean, it was probably an accessibility thing.
It allowed people who don't have the money for a subscription to pay it to to play the game,
but very fucking sneaky because it meant that you were locked into doing it for at least a couple of days.
It seems like quite a predatory keeps the player base up as well.
Imagine it'll keep them numbers up.
It seems like quite a predatory, you know, game in design and this throughout them all.
Yeah. You know, and that's that's why I don't like MMOs because of that FOMO feeling.
I don't like missing out on stuff.
I especially hate it. Fortnite's got it to a degree, not not massively,
but it's becoming more and more common now in video games to for there to be items.
Apex, for a prime example, items that become available.
And then once they're gone, they're gone.
So you're like, well, if I don't buy this now, this cosmetic, this 23 quid, I will never get it again.
And then then what you'll probably find is in a year's time, they'll bring it back for a special thing.
Yeah, we brought this back for a year.
So I'll face it all that time.
There's the battle pass for Fortnite right now.
The Darth Vader is level 100.
So you have to get the Darth Vader is like my favourite character in the history.
And then we guess you can buy the tears.
Of course you can buy the tears.
Now, I grinded the balls off that game that season.
I went mad on it.
I'm still only like level 60.
Same and but the good thing about Fortnite is if you don't play it for a while, when you go back, it often puts you in loads of bots.
So that's why you get wins when you first go back.
Which obviously releases endorphins and then you want to play more.
It's very clever.
Anyway, when you when you go back after you haven't played it for a while, it supercharges your XP.
So it lets you catch up.
You know, so if you just play it every day, your XP will just be going up as normal.
If you don't play it for a week, it will let you catch up to the people that have been playing it.
Warcraft does the same. It's very smart, though.
It's very good. And I think that is actually a good thing.
But regardless, you have to play and I don't really want to play that much Fortnite.
But I do really want that Darth Vader skin and it ends on September the 16th that season.
So I think what I'm going to do is I've already got about 3000 coins on there.
It's going to cost about five thousand eight hundred coins to get him.
So I think I'm probably just going to pay the 1520 credit is just to skip to the battle.
Your time spent to get it isn't is worth more than just the 20 quid.
Exactly. So then I can have Darth Vader if I go back to Fortnight, which don't get me wrong.
I don't think he's going to die anytime soon.
But whenever I go back to Fortnight, I would like to play as Darth Vader.
And if I don't get it now, because it's a battle pass only thing, I don't think I'll ever be able to get it again.
So if I don't buy it, it's gone forever.
That is also an awful way of doing things.
But that is OK when you're a busy adult who has a family life and you just you have to pick between whether you want to sit there and waste your time grinding that shit.
Or when you're already two thirds of the way through and you know, I mean, for the sake of 20 quid, you go, well, I really want that.
I'm going to be annoyed if I don't get it.
I can save myself a couple of weeks worth of or weeks.
But I don't know how long it would take you to get to one hundred on that battle pass.
But yeah, I understand where you're coming from.
One hundred percent. But like you say, it's all I say is the is the fear of missing out.
Because if I go back to play Fortnight in a year's time, I will kick myself if I get right back into it.
Yeah, I wish I brought that. I can't get it no more.
But this is the the depressing thing with World of Warcraft is that you have you have raids, bigger dungeons.
Obviously, you have them in Destiny as well.
And like now, now that there is you will grind as I did for fucking weeks to get the best gear possible
so you can do the raid with your guild successfully, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And obviously they do different difficulties, all that shit, which in turn gives you better gear, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then so you invest a lot of time and then they come out with an expansion release,
which immediately makes everything that you've worked for useless.
Because when that expansion comes out, all of that gear is, you know, I mean, it's redundant.
So especially now is when you get a massive player drop off because people like myself and there are loads of us out there
will sit there and go, well, I'm going to fucking waste my time playing this game, getting all the gear and stuff, because what's the point?
There is no point. So it's yes.
It's just very addictive and it's difficult to to get out of that mindset and to come away from that because of FOMO.
You don't want to miss out on shit. And it does take over your life to the point where not long ago I actually turned around to Stefan,
had a talk with her and I said it was an addiction.
I went, I'm going to I'm going to stop playing it.
And I did for a couple of months because I was like, this is take I was running the guild and it had over 200 people in it.
That doesn't sound like a lot of people, but when you're it sounds ridiculous when you go, I was in charge of these people.
But I was running the guild. I mean, I was sorting out the rage and we had a discord.
It was it was quite big. So and there was drama, you know, I mean, in game drama or like real time arguments and shit between people.
And obviously everyone was from all over the world.
So there was there was clashes with people and all this types of shit.
So it was just I mean, it was a second job. And I think that's what happens with MMORPG is sometimes if you're not careful,
that shit becomes a second job easily and you do start worrying about your life.
Yeah, it becomes your life. And when you've got a family or you've got a girlfriend, boyfriend, fucking whatever, or you've got responsibilities,
that shit, that shit is damaging 100 percent. Luckily for me, as much as I've got an addictive personality,
your hands won't let you crack on. No, I just can't. I can't stick with a game for that long.
Yeah, I've I've tried it. So obviously I had a little go on World Warcraft.
You know, I was obsessed with Destiny for, you know, a couple of months maybe.
And I was like, this is it. This is the one. This is what I'm doing.
This is going to be the game I play, you know, indefinitely, because I've got friends that I've had on there since, you know,
PS3 days and the or PS4 days, should I say, and Destiny, they've only played you go on their game library.
The only games they've played Destiny one, Destiny two and their hours are like in like tens, fifteen, twenty thousand.
I wish I liked to gain that much where I could play it that much.
And the problem is with these games to do the good stuff like Destiny, ESO and World Warcraft, you have to get into a guild.
It's not simple as, you know, just clicking a button and you joined a guild and then there's friendly people in the upper end.
You have to go through this discord server or you have to ask what is your what is your time zone?
What are your reasons for joining this? And it's very like it's like having a job interview.
Yeah, it makes me feel uncomfortable anyway, because I'm always not not like the most clued up when it comes to MMOs and things like that.
Terrified of making a mistake or screwing it up for other people.
So then you get you get put into these guilds and things. And if you don't turn up, it gives me the mental strain.
I'm like, I have to go on. I'm going to have to have to do this.
That's exactly why I have to. I can't go out because I have to do this.
That's very bad. Why do I have to do this?
And then I think on the other end of it, I think games where where you don't have to catch up again,
games like No Man's Sky where you can pick it up and drop it and it doesn't it doesn't matter.
You're not you're not punished. You're not missing out on anything.
The game's so fucking big. Apart from the expeditions.
You know, please bring back the Normandy. Yes.
Yes. But other than that, if you're like me, you're not really too interested in the expeditions only because I'm a new player.
So I'm just so fucking fascinated with what I'm doing at the moment.
How are you not bored yet, by the way? You still love it.
I'm obsessed. I know I'm happy. I love that you love it.
I thought you'd be bored because you look you seem like me in terms of you.
You're like, I love this. This is great. Anyway, until next thing, I picked you up.
I think it's because I don't know what's in the game.
I don't know what I'm what what what awaits me around the corner.
So that's the thing. No one really does because it's infinite.
I know one thing I'm after at the moment is a a sentient frigate like a living frigate.
That's what you want. That's what you're supposed to know.
That's what I'm trying to. I saw an article of it and I had to get I'm trying to do as minimal research as possible so that I don't spoil anything.
But when I scroll over on my phone, it gives me all the fucking articles and it was on there and it was it was a farming thing of how to get this.
I read it. It weren't a farming thing. It was just fucking telling you how you could possibly get one.
And I just thought that's cool. I'd like to have one of them.
So now I have I don't know how to get one. I can't remember but that's what I'm after.
You set your own goals. So I'm just fucking around doing that at the moment.
And then obviously obviously Connors playing it not your brother-in-law our little ginger friend Conrod our D&D buddy that hasn't introduced us to D&D yet, but he will shout out to Connor.
He's playing it now, but he plays it on on PC.
But the the the cross platform and the in-game voice is perfect. It works really really well. It's very good.
So that's like like fucking hell. I can play with him when he's on a PC.
Then we haven't got a fuck around with Discord or any of that shit. It's fun man. I like it sir.
No, maybe maybe when I hit over a hundred hours, I might probably go.
Yeah, I'm getting a bit fucking waft here. But at the moment, no bro, I've got a I've got a weekend free.
Steph's not here. Unfortunately, so I'll be pining for in the evenings, but I shall console myself by sitting on no man's sky until the early hours.
We pumping him hours up to 60 by the end of the week.
100% 100% man.
But like I say though, he doesn't it doesn't punish you for not playing it.
And you can go back and the only time I say it didn't punish me.
But when I hadn't played it from launch and then I jumped back in, I don't know what the time frame was.
But everything that I had acquired was like nothing void.
I went in my inventory and it was like this is useless. This is useless.
This man to it. So that's why I just started again. So I don't know. I do what I'm doing. I need to do the tutorial.
Yeah. Yeah. But that's not punishing the game completely changed.
And it wasn't there was nothing that I'd lost out on because everything had been replaced with other things.
Fantastic game. But yeah, the MMO model is not for me.
It's a dangerous one. It is a very dangerous one.
And I can I can luckily for me on from the outside looking in, I can see where these stories come from of people getting really addicted to them.
Yeah. And but then dangerously addicted to them.
But yeah, luckily, I'm not that obsessed or nowhere near even on that level with any game.
But I can definitely see why people end up going down that road.
But if they release Star Wars, the Old Republic on PS5, then maybe I will.
Yeah, it is. The graphics and everything it will.
That will be fucking mental. I would happily play that because that that that sounds fun as fuck.
But we'll see. Yeah, we will see. Yeah.
Next up, we have there's more, is there? Yeah.
Evolve. This will be a short and sweet one.
Evolve is a game where it's for V1, the one being a monster that surprise, surprise evolves.
Yeah, you were you were a monster.
You start spawned as I believe there was four or five different monsters and then they brought out a couple more.
And you could you there was you spawn into the map and there's all animals and other shit running around that as the monster, you could go and eat.
And there would be a meter.
And the idea is fill it up. And there was three evolutions.
And obviously, you'd get more powerful. Your body would change.
You'd get more abilities, blah, blah, blah.
And the job of the other four were to come and kill you.
They couldn't evolve or anything. But yeah, it was the monster was obviously powerful as fuck.
But if you had a well coordinated team, it was very easy to down.
It was unbalanced is what it was. And when it first come out, it was it was it was fun.
But like I say, a mixture of it being unbalanced and not really that in depth in what you were doing.
Like there weren't really a story or anything like that. Repetitive. Yeah.
So it died very, very quickly.
And then you could play the legacy version of it. And there was legacy servers.
So I don't really fully understand it.
But what I can gauge is that you you could still because they shut down the servers.
They completely like went now. Fuck this. This is done.
So you could not play it. So I'm going to assume they brought back the legacy servers so that people could play it.
But it just meant that the developers didn't have to do anything with it.
I would imagine, say it was on version one point zero three.
And that was the latest version of it.
They just released let you play that on the legacy version.
And there was never going to be any updates.
And then recently the original servers come back.
They brought it completely live again.
And it's slowly creeping up the tables on steam.
I saw a stat that said half a million people were playing. Is that true?
Is that false? Was that the all time peak?
I tell you what, I think I've got steam on it.
So if I load that up, I think I can probably have a look and be able to tell you.
But it it came out a while ago. I'm talking years ago.
And I feel like it might be a case of where it's it's aged a bit better.
I mean, they've they've gone now. This was shit.
Dropped it and it's come back and people.
It wasn't that bad after all.
It's come back to a different world.
Possibly now I've gone on to the gaming library and nothing on it.
Ignore that. None of that is true.
We might have nothing on it.
I've typed in a bowl.
Nothing's come up on the on the store for evolve.
So that's I don't really fucking know.
Well, I'm sure I saw something that said half a million players,
but that was almost certainly all time peak.
I can't imagine that is the case right now.
Either way, it's it's it is back.
I probably won't bother giving it a go, if I'm honest.
But I hope it may be because it was it was a cool concept.
The monsters were cool. It was it was decent.
It just needed it needed more work like another game that I would I would fucking love to come back
and really would love it if they put some more time and effort into it is Anthem.
I think that would be really good.
I don't know if you ever played Anthem.
I didn't. I'm a bit of a review whore.
Very fun. So not what I've changed over the years.
I've mellowed. I was very and my mate Clark, he's always give me stick for that.
If a game come out and it was like less than 10, I was like, it's shit.
It's the worst thing. I'm the same. Oh, yeah.
It's rubbish. But now I'm looking and I'm seeing sevens and I'm like, you go.
Yeah, it might be all right. Yeah, it might be all right for me.
Let me form an opinion.
I'm not saying we've we've days gone.
I absolutely love that game.
It's not for everyone. It didn't get the greatest reviews.
Got a cult following though. Yeah, a lot of people love it.
It's a fantastic game.
But because it came out or people were comparing it to like the last of us, which is not.
But yeah, I won't be playing evolve.
But yeah, I was a review whore. Things have changed.
I no longer review whore. I form my own reviews and this is Diabolical.
And it's like this is a three. This is awful. It's janky. It's horrific.
The problem is with games and reviews as a whole is obviously not everybody.
Not everything's for everyone.
But sometimes a game can look really good and review really well.
But when I play it, the controls or the way it moves and stuff just don't vibe me.
I don't like the feeling. Even silly little things like the noise in the menus and things, they annoy me.
If you've got a nice little crunchy or little menu noise when you're going across.
I love that. You know, little things like that. I love.
So they change depending on my opinion.
Well, the review scores don't really matter that much.
Like I say, unless it's just a buggy mess, don't play it.
Sometimes they're bad reviews you're playing.
And you say, no, no, I like the feel of this. This is for me.
Not every game's for everybody. And that's what I've learned.
So you do the same. I agree.
And on that bombshell, hear what we've been playing.
We've just done that. No, we didn't.
We've literally done that segment. No man's sky.
That's what I've been playing. You haven't been playing anything.
I have. I played jacuzzi.
Oh, go on then.
It's all right.
You know what I mean? No, I played jacuzzi. It's good.
It's a very I've wanted to play for a long time.
It's on Game Pass. So I thought solid. I downloaded it.
And it's a very interesting game.
Very Western.
So it's it's like they're hard games to get into because they
the dialogue seems to go on forever.
You know, there's times he's just like, just just just finish this.
Shut the fuck up so I can stab you.
Yeah, let's just move on with the story.
They're like not really long text boxes just to say, wow, no way.
Come on, man.
Just want to play interesting game.
I like your Koosa. It's good.
I played no man's sky this week as well.
What am I doing?
The football season starts this evening.
I'm now football orientated on just football again.
I love football. I live and breathe it.
Who's playing tonight?
It is Crystal Palace versus Arsenal.
is Arsenal going for a Crystal Palace win 2-1. 2-1. Okay. At
Sellers Park, I fancy Palace to have a go. Right. I've got no
opinions. Okay. Well, they. But I know that Arsenal aren't
that good anymore. They should be better this season but
Palace. Yeah. It's nice to know. Brand new season. I'm so out
of touch. Well, you've got two tasks. One, watch football this
season. Support the mighty Ammers. Yeah. And you know,
it's 38 games in the season. You can get behind it. Yeah. Two,
you have to play Cyberpunk. Please soon. Just start it. I
don't have the time. This is a no man's sky zone. Well, when
when that's over, that's gotta be an expert. How much is it on
Amazon? What do you need it on Amazon for? I thought you owned
it. No, I've I got it refunded, didn't I? Well, just get it off
the store. I played it. Remember when they come out and
they said, look, we're really sorry for producing this
absolute **** We'll actually give you your money back and I
was straight on it. I went, give me the **** money back.
Well, when they said, when CD Projekt Red said, oh, if you
don't like it, ask PlayStation for a refund and
PlayStation were like, that's not how we operate it. Yeah,
they went, let's just take it off the store. Yeah. Yeah,
they didn't. PlayStation are wankers for giving refunds. I'm
actually get one for for a game once and I was very happy
about it. Um Cyberpunk twenty seventy-seven for eighteen
last PlayStation four. Right. Eighteen quid for PlayStation.
Purchase. Oh no, there is no PS5 version, is it? It's an
upgrade. So, you buy the normal version and then I think the
upgrade to PS5 is free through the PlayStation store. I don't
know. I think that's how it works. Well, we'll check it out
after this anyway. So, yeah, that's what we've been playing.
Um I haven't played that much obviously because I've been
busy in the gym. I've been getting back into that which
means I've been tired of an evening. Yeah. I try to do
better next week. I'm sorry. Love Island is done now. So,
that means I have an extra hour in the evening to do
whatever. So, I might be playing No Man's Sky or I
might be watching Killing Eve with Steph. We haven't really
made up our minds yet. So, the world is my oyster. That's it.
That is it. Really? So, yeah, thanks. Thanks for another
week of listening to us Mumbo Jumbo. Thanks for listening
Dean. We really appreciate your support. Uh bumps the numbers
up. We all the 30 people that are listening. Thanks Connor
brother-in-law and thanks Connor friend. You're the
bestest. Yeah. Connor brother-in-law, Connor friend,
me. Connor brother-in-law and Connor friend. I'm joking. I
love you all. Peace and love baby. Bye everyone. Uro.