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It's your intro you fucking idiot. No, it's not. It is. So what episode are we on? Seven? Seven? You started

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One. Yeah. You. Me. You. Me. You. Me. You. So now it's me. Oh, yeah, we got there, Ian.

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You know what that could actually work as an intro.

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Hi!

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Starting off with an argument

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You're listening to What's the Buttons. My name is Rhys with me. I have Ash. That was the intro

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We're gonna talk about some shit. We just don't know what shit we're gonna talk about

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Join us for the next hour

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Here comes the intro

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What's the Buttons?

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It's getting real lackadaisical with the intros. That's the word of the day by the way. Lackadaisical.

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It's very hot and sweaty.

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I know. It is warm in here.

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We're literally sitting in an oven just to not have it echoey for you like.

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I opened the windows to let some cool air in. It was worse. I promise you it was a lot worse.

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I don't know about that.

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I just set up my fantasy football team.

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Yes you did.

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It's called the Stinky Loggers. It's the first time I've ever done it.

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I can feel myself getting into football a little bit this year.

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It's quite weird. I'm actually gonna go and watch football tomorrow.

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I'm a changed man.

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You're gonna be buying FIFA 23, aren't you?

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Never say never.

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I'd love to see that. Please.

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Ridiculous. Maybe if it's in the bargain bucket which I'm sure it will be.

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Eventually it will be.

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You sent me a list of things that we're gonna talk about because we do put some thought into this.

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Believe it or not.

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The first thing up was Starfield.

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Well done.

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It's not really an intro. What have we been doing this week?

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How are we feeling?

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Sorry. I've already fucked up. It says intro waffle on the first.

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We're giving away all the trade secrets.

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Jesus Christ.

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No we don't need an editor.

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Look at this top quality merchandise.

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I had someone message me privately not long ago and they asked if they could be an editor.

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She was a very nice lady.

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I hope she does very well.

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I basically said no we don't need one at the moment. We can handle it.

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Well, proof is in the pudding when you listen to this podcast.

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Because if this sounds any fucking decent it means that we can handle it.

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If it doesn't sound decent it means we need help.

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It's top quality.

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Top fucking quality.

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This is at the top of the leaderboards.

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This is what the pros do.

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Yeah, kinda.

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In a roundabout way.

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Maybe hold off on that Patreon for GoPros because you ain't seeing much.

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Nah, just a mess.

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Loads of pop figures.

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My swimming shorts are behind this man.

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And there's a wall of Styrofoam next to me.

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What are we doing?

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I don't know.

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What have you been doing this week?

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No Man's Sky.

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Oh fuck's sake.

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Nonstop. I think I've clocked in.

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I've gone over the 30 hour mark I think now.

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Jesus Christ.

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I've more than doubled my game time since we last spoke.

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Man's gotta get that copper.

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It's gone a bit crazy to be fair.

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Like I said before we started I've got a fleet of 16 strong frigates that I'm sending out on all sorts of missions.

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And half of them are coming back broken but they're going out nonetheless.

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It's good.

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I respect the hustle and the grind.

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I've missed out on two missions to get some frigate modules.

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I was fuming. I didn't realise that those Nexus missions fuck off after about five minutes.

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You've got to grab them while they're there.

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Didn't know that.

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Getting white as hot.

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Well lost out.

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Last week I went on my wedding anniversary.

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I told you I'd keep you updated.

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We went to a spa day.

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That sounds too happy.

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It was very awkward.

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It was very uncomfortable.

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I was getting into massages I wasn't expecting.

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It was front, wasn't it?

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Yeah so I laid down front ways so I had a back massage.

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But then the next massage I had to turn around the other way.

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Problem being although I'm middle aged man I'm still very childish of the mind.

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So then I started getting a bit giggly and I had to really really hold in.

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The boner.

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No. Not at all.

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It was quite the opposite actually.

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I was so just awkward.

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I don't know man the motions that were going on in my fingers just made me laugh.

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I had to hold it in.

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It wasn't comfortable.

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No it was about to get very awkward.

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I thought a grown man is just going to burst out laughing in a minute.

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I'm going to have to leave the room and they're going to be like what on earth is going on.

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So I had to really focus on not laughing.

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So we left there after a couple of hours.

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And we went to Nerdbase to sponsor us.

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That's a little plug there straight away.

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To be honest we need to let them know that we exist.

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Because they're not going to sponsor us because they don't even know we exist at the moment.

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So we went there. I bought nothing.

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Then we had a pub lunch. It was delicious.

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We went home, stuck Pirates of the Caribbean on and fell asleep for about three hours.

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I woke up and I played a bit of Yakuza but we'll talk about that later anyway.

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And that everyone is marriage.

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Yeah and it's lovely.

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That's how it works.

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I also went back to the gym this week for the first time properly since coronavirus hit the world.

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And yeah I'm a little bit sore.

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But I'm enjoying it and getting back into it.

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And yeah it's very good. Very good for you mentally and physically.

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I've given him a little gaming chair as a replacement for the chair that he was sitting in to make him a little bit more comfortable.

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But I know that they don't hold.

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There's not a lot of room on them chairs for the biggest of bodies.

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So I'm hoping we'll see progress in terms of muscle by the next month or two he won't fit in the chair.

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Yeah I'm already quite a decent.

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It's already quite a struggle.

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Yeah I feel bad for this one. This is brand new and my fat arse barely fits in it.

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Whoopsie daisy.

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There you go.

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That was an intro.

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Yeah it was. I told you.

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Bit more chit chat. Now we can move on to it.

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And it's a big surprise because it's Starfield.

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Woo.

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Now I saw that coming.

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So yeah go on.

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This is your show.

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All it is, is I've read an article.

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It's our show by the way.

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This is a joint effort.

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Yeah but it's your turn.

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It's my turn.

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And basically I've read an article.

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Can I just comment on how we're sitting in these chairs.

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I'm so tired.

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That one leans all the way. That's like a bed that one.

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Is it? How does it go back?

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Yeah there's like an extra bit on like for the legs.

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Ow.

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It does go all the way back.

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No that's down.

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Is there another lever?

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There is another lever somewhere. It does go back because I did it.

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I can't. Son I had to do it mum.

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Just leave it.

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Just leave it. I've got to sort it out now. I'm too small now.

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You're pulling the amp.

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This is fucking ridiculous.

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Ah yeah. There we go. Now I'm too high.

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What was I saying? Starfield. Lovely.

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There's I basically just read an article that talks about how there's a potential for there to be a survival type of gameplay.

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Which I think is quite a good little subject to speak on because I used to fucking hate that aspect of games.

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Any game that involved having to eat and fucking water myself and make sure I had a shower and a shit and sleep enough.

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I hated it and then No Man's Sky come and made me fucking monitor my shields and my health and all that stuff and I got used to it.

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I like it.

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Why don't you start a new game on survival mode then?

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Fuck that.

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I don't like it that much.

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I can't be arsed. I can't be bothered with that at all.

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I don't like that type of shit.

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If I die I want to be able to come back with all my shit.

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That sort of thing.

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You can. You can come back.

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Yeah but it's not permadeath mode.

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It's just too hardcore though isn't it?

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It's not permadeath.

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Look. I'm trying to avoid No Man's Sky.

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This is Starfield.

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Yeah same thing.

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They were saying that they...

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I say they.

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The entity that is they.

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Basically you know Fallout New Vegas had the hardcore mode type thing.

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Yes.

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Basically that is what some people are hoping for and other people are saying that they like the idea of it.

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However it should be an optional theme to have that.

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I don't think it should be optional.

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I reckon you should have it.

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The survival aspect.

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Well it depends doesn't it.

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I mean if you want to create a game without...

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If you're going to create a game an RPG of that scope.

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You can't and you want to implement survival mechanics.

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To get the best of the survival mechanics the game needs to be built from the ground up with survival mechanics in mind.

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Because when you just start adding the extra option for survival mechanics and just going you can toggle it on and off.

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Now all of a sudden you've got a little meat and it means you need to eat an apple every now and again.

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It's not really survival mechanics is it.

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It's just another thing that you've got to do.

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Yeah.

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So if you're going to do survival modes I think it needs to be either implemented permanently throughout or built with the option of having it toggled on.

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But really built with that in mind.

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Like I say because Skyrim got a survival mode probably inspired by the survival mods that came before it.

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And yeah don't get me wrong it's ok.

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It is essentially just tacked on. Eat an apple. Eat some water.

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It's probably doing it a bit of a disservice actually because you have to keep warm and stuff like that.

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You can get too hot.

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But yeah you need to create the game with survival in mind.

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Starfield having it I'm not so sure. I think it needs it.

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I mean you're already in space.

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You know you've done pretty well to survive that well. That far.

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Do you need to eat an apple?

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All it is is there the you can get special.

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Didn't mute my phone did I?

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Turn it on silent.

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You're checking yours as well.

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I didn't mute my phone. That's really bad.

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Oh fuck it.

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Meme.

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They were talking. Fucking they.

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The article I was reading was talking about how in Starfield they have different skills that you are able to get.

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And like the first one you have access to is called Gastronomy.

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Which is about food. Food and drinks.

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And it's the ability to learn special recipes.

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Basically a fucking cooking book.

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You get to learn new shit in terms of cooking and people were saying that they would quite like the idea of venturing around space.

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And going to all these alien chefs and having food made for them with special buffs and shit like that.

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I don't know if that seems a bit skew if. Seems like it could get boring real quick.

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I don't know. It's more appealing than just telling you that you're hungry and you need to eat something.

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And just going into your inventory and choosing one of the 400 food items in your inventory to eat.

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It's a bit pointless like I say. It's a bit tacked on.

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If there's actually quests that are designed for it.

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And actually an in depth food system.

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Then maybe it can be more interesting.

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They can go a lot further with it than just eating anyway.

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But yeah it needs to be built up properly rather than just tacked on in my opinion.

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But I don't think Starfield needs it.

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But if it gets it you know is it going to be a toggle on toggle off thing?

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I'm going to love it regardless. I'm in space.

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Just give me a fucking lightsaber. That's all I care about.

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If they get it then it would be good.

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If it is a case of so the resources you would need to keep yourself fed and all that shit.

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If they were plentiful in some respect.

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So you weren't fucking spending hours trying to find a loaf of bread.

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You know what I mean.

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So have the survival mechanics of it.

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But don't make it fucking impossible to actually keep up with the survival mechanics.

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Don't make it a second job.

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Like no man's sky.

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That's the problem with it. That's the complete opposite to what I want.

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If it's going to be survival mechanic make it so you are scrambling around.

247
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Like fuck I need a drink or I need to eat.

248
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Oh yeah but that takes the fun out of it doesn't it?

249
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Yeah but then why bother if you're just going to select an apple out of the million things in your inventory.

250
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No man it's an article I've read.

251
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Exactly. So you're just going through the menus and you're eating shit that you've got thousands of.

252
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It takes away the point of it being survival.

253
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So there has to be like a fine middle ground there somewhere.

254
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Or just turn it off.

255
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Yeah just turn the fucking thing off.

256
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That's that conundrum sorted.

257
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I'm trying to think of what other games have had survival mechanics in.

258
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Red Dead?

259
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Yeah that was rubbish.

260
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They really shouldn't have bothered personally with that.

261
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Daisy?

262
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Yeah Daisy the game is built on that though. That's done well.

263
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Daisy's done well because you really are.

264
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Fucking annoying yeah.

265
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Yeah but you're really searching and you're eating.

266
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There's times where you're like I love this character I've got so much stuff I don't want to die.

267
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All that's around me is human flesh.

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And then someone takes your plum.

269
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Yeah and then you kill them and then you eat them.

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You can eat human flesh but you know that you'll get ill.

271
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And then you start going crazy you start laughing and hysterically like.

272
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I never got that far. I just kept running around trying to find plums and went this is fucking wank I can't bother.

273
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Oh Daisy is great. Daisy is so good.

274
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Me and Mark didn't like it.

275
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Fuck Mark.

276
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Whatever. I don't care.

277
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I like it.

278
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Sick game.

279
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I only played it because of H1Z1 it just weren't my cup of tea.

280
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Very good game. Very good game.

281
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Underrated actually.

282
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But yeah that's I think yeah 100%.

283
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That's survival mechanics done well.

284
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When did you play it? I guess you didn't play on PS5.

285
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60 FPS now.

286
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Very nice. Very smooth.

287
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What Daisy?

288
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No I think I did play it on PS5.

289
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No I think I did but I really didn't play it long.

290
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I really didn't.

291
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I remember getting hold of a gun with no ammo and then getting my head fucking caved in with a shovel or some shit and I thought I can't bother.

292
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It's a very steep learning curve.

293
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But it's very addictive.

294
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Yeah that's probably survival done right.

295
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But then like that whole game is designed around survival.

296
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That is the draw of the game.

297
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There's nothing really else going on other than starting from scratch and trying to build yourself a little empire really.

298
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And starting life for as long as possible because once you're dead you're dead.

299
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There is no like you know quitting out and just going oh well I'll come back later.

300
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You'll be coming back as a new fucking dude mate.

301
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Minecraft has got some survival in it has it?

302
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I don't know I haven't played Minecraft before.

303
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Well I have again.

304
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Not my cup of tea.

305
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Yeah I don't know. I can't really think of any more.

306
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There's quite a few out there with survival aspects like Valheim and games like that.

307
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It's just it's one of them where either works or it doesn't.

308
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World of Warcraft.

309
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I won't talk about World of Warcraft itself.

310
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You've completely skipped the next thing.

311
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Have I?

312
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Yeah.

313
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Have I?

314
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Yeah.

315
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Oh.

316
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Sorry.

317
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I didn't realise that.

318
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That's how forgettable this section is.

319
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Well listen.

320
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I don't know anything about this.

321
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We've got to make it last.

322
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We've done it for about 15 minutes deep and we're already on the third subject.

323
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Sorry.

324
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Steph will love this.

325
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I haven't actually heard much about it.

326
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Well nothing about it because it's not my world but go ahead and enlighten me.

327
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I don't know fuck all about either. I just see it.

328
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No Nintendo Switch Pro in 2022.

329
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There's been rumours about Nintendo Switch Pro for quite some time.

330
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For the last couple of years actually.

331
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Obviously they released the Nintendo Switch OLED was it?

332
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Yeah.

333
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Better screen and better battery.

334
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Supposed to be very good.

335
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People that bought it sing its praises.

336
00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,680
But for me is it worth buying a whole new Nintendo Switch?

337
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Absolutely fucking not.

338
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No.

339
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I don't play it enough as it is.

340
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I only played it for Star Wars really.

341
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And now that's on the Xbox.

342
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What's the point?

343
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,680
Exactly.

344
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Saying that though.

345
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Nintendo Switch has a massive following.

346
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Steph fucking loves your Switch and I can see why.

347
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It's a very handy bit of kit.

348
00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,680
It is but I just find all the games are just very childish.

349
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Very kid like.

350
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,680
Yeah but they've got I thought that but they've got quite a good catalogue of other games.

351
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But some of them play a bit waft.

352
00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,680
Yeah that's the problem.

353
00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,680
That's the problem with it.

354
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,680
Are you trying to play Apex Legends on the Switch?

355
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,680
Exactly.

356
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Fucking hell.

357
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,680
That's what I'm saying.

358
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It's just awful.

359
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A lot of the games that aren't child like or are targeted at children or young people I guess.

360
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,680
You can play them on better systems.

361
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More comfortable systems.

362
00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:10,680
So you would choose to play Apex on the PlayStation and the Xbox on the PC.

363
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,680
Obviously it's got the advantage of you know you can sit on the shit and play it.

364
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,680
But it's just not comfortable.

365
00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,680
I don't like the way to play proper games like that.

366
00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,680
It's very uncomfortable on your fingers.

367
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You reckon?

368
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,680
Oh yeah.

369
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Massive.

370
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,680
You need to go to the doctors and get your wrists and your hands checked out because you're too uncomfortable with the most money.

371
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,680
With the most mundane tasks in terms of your hands.

372
00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,680
Well I broke my wrist.

373
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,680
So it's very very painful still.

374
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And also I'm old.

375
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,680
So the doctor is going to go there's nothing we can do for you sir.

376
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,680
You're just old and you're getting older and guess what?

377
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,680
It's going to get worse.

378
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,680
So no there's no point going to the doctors to be told what I already know.

379
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,680
So you won't be buying that PlayStation controller for the phone then?

380
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,680
No I did see that actually.

381
00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,680
That looks quite cool.

382
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,680
But no no I won't be.

383
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,680
There's no fucking good games on the phone to warrant playing it.

384
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,680
Stuff like that just always ends up.

385
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,680
I don't like really small screens.

386
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,680
And it's just going to make your phone really hot.

387
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,680
It's going to overeat.

388
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,680
And your phone is going to go oh I'm too hot.

389
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,680
You're going to have to stick it in the fridge for ten minutes.

390
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,680
No you have a Samsung.

391
00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,680
You ain't on Apple anymore.

392
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,680
That shit doesn't really happen.

393
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,680
I've never had an Apple in my life.

394
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,680
And yes it does happen on Samsung.

395
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,680
I thought you were an iPhone geezer.

396
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,680
I've never had an iPhone in my life.

397
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,680
I don't know you at all.

398
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,680
No you don't.

399
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,680
I don't know who you are.

400
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,680
Learn.

401
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,680
Learn.

402
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,680
Well I've learned.

403
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,680
Beep boop.

404
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,680
No Nintendo Switch Pro in 2022.

405
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,680
It's not happening.

406
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,680
Um Steam Deck?

407
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,680
Yes Steam Deck might be happening.

408
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,680
Uh yeah.

409
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,680
It looks cool.

410
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,680
I see it a while ago.

411
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,680
Good luck getting one.

412
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,680
Will you just fucking pre-order it?

413
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,680
No you don't.

414
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,680
You do?

415
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,680
Okay go on then.

416
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,680
No you don't do you?

417
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,680
Good luck.

418
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,680
You have to like get specially invited for it.

419
00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,680
I know that you can go on the website and it has the breakdown because it's quite cheap.

420
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,680
The base version is like 64 gig and it's like 200 something quid.

421
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:12,680
But then the 200 no the 500 something gig memory one is like five six hundred quid.

422
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,680
Something like that.

423
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:20,680
If you don't know what the Steam Deck is it's basically a PC but a handheld version.

424
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,680
It's a very cool bit of kit if I'm honest.

425
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,680
But I feel like not enough people have one to get a valid review on one.

426
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,680
It's perfect for me because I just play football manager on it all the time.

427
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,680
What a waste of money.

428
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,680
Not at all.

429
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,680
You have a laptop in front of you.

430
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,680
You'll be playing football manager soon.

431
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,680
You're basically a football manager now doing Dream Team.

432
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,680
Me and my fucking fantasy football team.

433
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,680
I'm gonna win that money.

434
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,680
If you're listening Martin I'm gonna fucking win all of that money.

435
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,680
It's gonna happen.

436
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,680
Yeah?

437
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,680
Well I saw your team.

438
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,680
All the best.

439
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,680
It's gonna happen.

440
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,680
All the best.

441
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,680
Trust me.

442
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,680
You probably will win.

443
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,680
The stinkiest loggers.

444
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,680
The stinky loggers is gonna claim his 40 quid.

445
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,680
You can't claim him Scott the idiot.

446
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:09,680
Yeah so Steam Deck I've always been interested in them but once again I don't really like

447
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,680
handhelds.

448
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:17,680
But they're releasing it in like quarters so they've had two releases so far and then

449
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:24,680
you can like not pre-order but register for the third release.

450
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,680
I don't really get it.

451
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,680
They're not just releasing them all at once.

452
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,680
They're basically saying here's fucking 100 of them.

453
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,680
We'll see you again in four months.

454
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,680
Yeah they're very hard to come by.

455
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,680
It's very strange.

456
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,680
It's very strange.

457
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,680
We're gonna google it now quickly.

458
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,680
Supply and demand isn't it?

459
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,680
Now everyone's gonna want one.

460
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,680
Yeah.

461
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,680
I want one and I don't even need one.

462
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,680
I've got everything I need and that's still not enough.

463
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,680
Get it off of eBay from a scalper.

464
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,680
Nooooo.

465
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,680
Oh sorry my yeah logging.

466
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,680
Well you can reserve it.

467
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,680
Well you can probably reserve a position to wait in line to pre-order.

468
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,680
It's £570 for the 512GB version.

469
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,680
I'm pretty sure that once you get it as well there's like a six month waiting time for

470
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,680
it to even be delivered.

471
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,680
It's nuts.

472
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:22,680
Yeah it says when inventory is available you'll receive an email and will have 72 hours to

473
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,680
complete your purchase.

474
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,680
Yeah that's very expensive.

475
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,680
£520 I don't know if I'll be paying that.

476
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,680
Well I know I will.

477
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,680
£570.

478
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,680
I would not be paying that.

479
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,680
£570 big ones.

480
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,680
There's a lot of games that I think because as far as I'm aware it's Steam Deck.

481
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,680
It's called Steam Deck for a reason being that it's got the Steam library on it.

482
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,680
Yeah.

483
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,680
But it's not got all the Steam library on it.

484
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,680
Not every game is compatible.

485
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,680
However there are many games that I would love to play and would much prefer to play

486
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,680
them on a Steam Deck rather than a laptop.

487
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,680
But then once again I'm already spoilt for choice and I always want what I don't have.

488
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,680
And then when I get it I'm like nah I need something new.

489
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:13,680
So it has most of the Steam library on it and I was reading a Reddit thread that was

490
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:21,680
from a guy who said that you can get like emulators and stuff and you can get like Origin

491
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:28,680
and fucking other platforms on there but it seemed like an absolute ball ache to get any

492
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,680
of that on there.

493
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,680
You know what I mean?

494
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,680
Like you've got to be somewhat technical to get all this shit on there and it seemed a

495
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,680
bit...

496
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,680
But I like the look of it.

497
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,680
I'm tempted by it.

498
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,680
I probably won't buy it.

499
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,680
Don't do it.

500
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,680
Don't buy it.

501
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,680
It's not worth it at the moment.

502
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,680
In my opinion I wouldn't.

503
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,680
But I know what you like.

504
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,680
You do you King.

505
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,680
Nah I'm not spending £507.

506
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,680
Because I'd get the...

507
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,680
If I was going to get it you'd get the biggest version of it for the sake of £100.

508
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,680
Just remember...

509
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,680
£200.

510
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,680
Sunshine always comes after the rain.

511
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,680
Where's this going?

512
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,680
Nah I'm just telling you.

513
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,680
And...

514
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,680
Cold potatoes are not hot.

515
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,680
What's happened to this?

516
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,680
Blizzard cancelled World of Warcraft mobile game.

517
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,680
What the fuck's going on?

518
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,680
Just some knowledge.

519
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,680
Just some knowledge for you.

520
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,680
Right.

521
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,680
Really trying to scrape through.

522
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,680
Not at all.

523
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,680
We're both tired.

524
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680
I'm tired for some reason.

525
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680
You're tired because I'm dragging you down.

526
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,680
No no no no.

527
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,680
I should be well...

528
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,680
Sorry I need to rehydrate.

529
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,680
Two seconds.

530
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,680
Continue.

531
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:47,680
I listened to a podcast called Another One podcast.

532
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,680
And when we started doing this podcast I got it in my head.

533
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,680
I was like it needs to be perfect.

534
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,680
We need to get rid of...

535
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,680
Cancel as much background noise out as possible.

536
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,680
First couple of episodes I think we did pretty well with that.

537
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,680
Soundproof the room as best I can with the abilities that I have.

538
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,680
And then I started listening to another one.

539
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,680
The geezer gets up and goes to the toilet mid podcast and leaves it running.

540
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680
You hear him flush the toilet.

541
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,680
He does this almost every episode.

542
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:20,680
And I think that's inspired me and this podcast to just allow the little things to come.

543
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,680
I can hear his chair fucking squeaking.

544
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,680
He's rubbing his mic cable along the fucking desk.

545
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,680
I can hear it through my earphones.

546
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,680
I don't know what it's going to sound like on the final edit but I'm sure it's going to be there.

547
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680
He's just drunk into the microphone.

548
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,680
He's blowing his fucking vape juice into the mic.

549
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,680
You know what I mean?

550
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,680
I don't know what's happened.

551
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,680
I don't know what's going on.

552
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,680
I kind of enjoy it.

553
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,680
I thought we'd have a million subscribers by now.

554
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,680
I don't understand.

555
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,680
Well even then if we do end up it's not going to change.

556
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,680
No.

557
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,680
Why would we bother?

558
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,680
They're here from the bottom of the barrel dross.

559
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,680
You know what I mean?

560
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,680
They're here to listen.

561
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,680
We are gutter tier.

562
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,680
And if you hear a bit of squeaking in the background who gives a fuck?

563
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,680
Exactly.

564
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,680
So be it.

565
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,680
Welcome to the bottom of the barrel.

566
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,680
You're going to have to listen to it.

567
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,680
You're going to have to deal with it Dean.

568
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,680
And just listen to the fucking squeaking of this chair.

569
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,680
Alright mate?

570
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,680
Alright.

571
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,680
You're calling Dean out again.

572
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,680
Has he listened to the last one?

573
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Yeah he loves it mum.

574
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,680
He loves it.

575
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,680
And he'll love this one.

576
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,680
You don't know.

577
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Squat dilly ot.

578
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,680
Shout out Connor.

579
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,680
Since he's been crying about it for the last month.

580
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,680
The old conrod.

581
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,680
Yeah not that Connor.

582
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Oh.

583
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,680
My brother in law Connor.

584
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,680
Oh apologies.

585
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Yeah.

586
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,680
He wants to be on the podcast.

587
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,680
Yeah he can come.

588
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,680
He can give us £400 to get him on the podcast because that's what it costs.

589
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,680
Yeah it ain't cheap.

590
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,680
Realise that.

591
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,680
Understand this.

592
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,680
You dickhead.

593
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,680
We made a mistake when we bought the gear for the...

594
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,680
We're sitting here about fucking go put the phone away.

595
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,680
We made a mistake.

596
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,680
A little bang there.

597
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,680
I won't edit that out.

598
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,680
I'll leave that.

599
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,680
We made a mistake.

600
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Fuck it.

601
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,680
I'll do one.

602
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,680
We made a mistake when we bought the gear and we only bought an interface that lets

603
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,680
us plug in two mics.

604
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,680
That wasn't a mistake.

605
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,680
It was a two man band.

606
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,680
Yeah.

607
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,680
Now imagine if we had a third screaming at each other constantly.

608
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Just pass the mic to him.

609
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,680
Steph said this.

610
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,680
I think it'd be horrible.

611
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,680
It would be horrible but there you go.

612
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,680
So £400 if you want to get yourself on the podcast.

613
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,680
If you got £400 spare I'd rather just put it straight in my pocket rather than make

614
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,680
us buy some equipment.

615
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,680
But if you want to be on it, it's £400.

616
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,680
People don't realise how expensive it is to get another person on this fucking popular

617
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,680
platform.

618
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,680
This is the last episode of Matarun I've had enough.

619
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,680
What a waste of time.

620
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:34,680
This is seven weeks or more than that because it took us about 11 weeks ago we started the

621
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,680
idea.

622
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Took us a while.

623
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,680
We got everything up and running.

624
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,680
We've not got a million followers, views, listens, nothing.

625
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,680
Not even close.

626
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,680
I don't understand.

627
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,680
I thought this shit was easy.

628
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,680
Yeah, not a penny has gone into my pocket.

629
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,680
Pennies have left.

630
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,680
They haven't come back.

631
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,680
It's just outgoing.

632
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,680
It's time investment.

633
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,680
It's time investment.

634
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,680
It's money investment.

635
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,680
It's emotional investment.

636
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,680
It's giving me headaches.

637
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,680
I'm getting anxiety.

638
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,680
I'm sweating right now.

639
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,680
My muscles are hurting.

640
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,680
I'm sitting like I'm all bent up in this chair.

641
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,680
It's not comfortable.

642
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,680
I mean, it's just not worth it.

643
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,680
So this is the I'm gone.

644
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,680
These chairs are awful for posture.

645
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,680
They're comfy as fuck.

646
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,680
But you know what I mean?

647
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,680
They make you jump around.

648
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,680
I feel like we've really, really.

649
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,680
I can't leave.

650
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,680
I can't leave.

651
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,680
I've invested too much.

652
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,680
We've really dropped down.

653
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Let's pull it back.

654
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,680
That was a bit of just a bit of fun.

655
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,680
Just a little bit of fun.

656
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,680
Anyway, the energy is back now.

657
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,680
The World of Warcraft mobile game that has now been canceled was called Warcraft Arclight

658
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Rumble.

659
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,680
And you could pre-register your interest in it.

660
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680
And I did just for the sake of it.

661
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,680
It's been it's been fucked off.

662
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Essentially, Blizzard have a partnership with a company called NetEase.

663
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Basically, they're there.

664
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Well, they've been partnered since 2008.

665
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,680
And NetEase have a massive market in the mobile gaming industry, like worth fucking serious

666
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,680
money.

667
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,680
So it made sense that Blizzard would try and break into the mobile gaming industry.

668
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,680
They did that with Diablo Immortal, which received a shit ton of backlash because it's

669
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,680
pay to win.

670
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,680
And it is pay to win.

671
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,680
You loved it.

672
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,680
You loved it for the first like week or two weeks.

673
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:24,680
Me and Steph went to Lanzarote for her birthday, sat in the room playing that the entire time.

674
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,680
It was fantastic.

675
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,680
But we haven't touched it fucking basically since we got off the plane.

676
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,680
You know what I mean?

677
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,680
It's just.

678
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680
Will you be playing the new Diablo, the proper one?

679
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

680
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,680
Because I think Diablo.

681
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,680
I like Diablo.

682
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Diablo 3 was very good.

683
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680
It was very good.

684
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,680
Diablo 4 looks also fantastico.

685
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,680
That's that is coming out on the I don't know, 2023.

686
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,680
So that's all we got for that.

687
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,680
But that's excited for stuff that says this is the problem.

688
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,680
What are we?

689
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Where's all the games?

690
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,680
We get a big splurge of them.

691
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Too much to play and then nothing.

692
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Yeah.

693
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,680
And I'm just bored.

694
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Yeah.

695
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,680
You wait till Dragonfly comes out.

696
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,680
The expansion for World of Warcraft.

697
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,680
When does that come out?

698
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,680
They say December, but it won't be till 2023.

699
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,680
It'll get delayed.

700
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Well, that'll do you good because you got you got to tackle God of War yet.

701
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,680
No fucking hell.

702
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Yeah.

703
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,680
You know, that's the next big game.

704
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,680
That's what people are waiting for.

705
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680
I've just remembered the game.

706
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Haven't actually taken my money for that either.

707
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,680
So that at some point, three hundred and something quid is going to go exiting out of my fucking bank account.

708
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,680
If you hope it does.

709
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,680
It fucking better.

710
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,680
It fucking better.

711
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
I've got the email confirmation and everything.

712
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,680
If that are who who who who I'll be fuming.

713
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Who?

714
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Yeah, that game got canceled.

715
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Warcraft Arclight Rumble got canceled.

716
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Everyone thinks it's a bit.

717
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,680
They have come out and said that there's nothing wrong.

718
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,680
Our partnership is is perfectly fine.

719
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,680
The relationship is steady between Blizzard and NetEase.

720
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Now, a lot of games get into development and then get canned before they even come out.

721
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,680
It happens quite often.

722
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,680
It's quite a normal thing.

723
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:22,680
And usually what happens is the people that they have working on those games, if it if it flops, they just re divert those resources somewhere else onto another game or doing whatever.

724
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,680
This time around, though, NetEase have sacked off over a hundred people of that development team.

725
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,680
They're just gone.

726
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,680
They didn't give them jobs back.

727
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,680
They just went near.

728
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Don't need you anymore.

729
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:41,680
So that tells me that the relationship between them and Blizzard isn't so cushy because they've just sacked off pretty much the entire team that was working on that game.

730
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,680
I say there must be a serious development team to sack a hundred people.

731
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Well, they're big.

732
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,680
They are big.

733
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,680
But yeah, a hundred hundred people.

734
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:59,680
It was over a hundred people and something like only five percent of them got offered a job doing something else within within that company.

735
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,680
Everyone else was basically fucked off.

736
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,680
See you later.

737
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,680
Go somewhere else.

738
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Stop.

739
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Stop doing that.

740
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Clicking.

741
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,680
I love it.

742
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Stop fiddling with that.

743
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,680
You're rambling, bro.

744
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,680
I'm bored.

745
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,680
No, I don't know anything about World of Warcraft.

746
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680
What was the mobile game name?

747
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Warcraft Arclight Rumble.

748
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,680
It's a mouthful.

749
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680
I could have told you it'd be canned just from the name alone.

750
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,680
It's a terrible name.

751
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,680
It's a lot, isn't it?

752
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680
I don't know what where it's come from.

753
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,680
It's not just World of Warcraft mobile.

754
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,680
That is a dumb, isn't it?

755
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,680
I don't know.

756
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,680
It was meant to be set in that universe, but a different time period.

757
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,680
I wasn't really that high.

758
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680
What was it supposed to be?

759
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Was it supposed to be an actual MMO?

760
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Was it supposed to be a card game?

761
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Was it supposed to be?

762
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Fucking no.

763
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,680
It just looked like just a generic mobile game.

764
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680
It didn't look good.

765
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,680
You know what I mean?

766
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,680
It wasn't going to fucking break records.

767
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Pull up no trees.

768
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Yeah.

769
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Well, I'm not disappointed, to be honest with you.

770
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,680
What I am disappointed about still is Star Wars.

771
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Knights of the Old Republic.

772
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680
It's not coming back.

773
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,680
It will come back.

774
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Anakin came back.

775
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,680
It'll be dead.

776
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Anakin came back.

777
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Anakin's not dead.

778
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,680
It's already dead.

779
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,680
It's not dead.

780
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,680
There's hope.

781
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,680
They will come back.

782
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,680
They will come back and they will make it lovely and fluffy and warm.

783
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,680
And I'll live in there for at least three months and it will be toasty.

784
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaking of Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars The Old Republic, the MMO.

785
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Yeah.

786
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680
It's not looking too great at the moment.

787
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,680
Apparently.

788
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,680
What one you're playing?

789
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,680
Well, I haven't played it in a long time, but yeah.

790
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Why is it not looking good?

791
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,680
It's looking like the main director guy has just left and a few other people are left.

792
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,680
And this the general consensus is there might be limping to its final destination.

793
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680
It's been out for a long time.

794
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680
And it looks it.

795
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:16,680
However, someone has suggested or implied that there is a possibility that they could.

796
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,680
They probably won't, but they could try and reboot it.

797
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Releasing it on consoles.

798
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Imagine if they released that on the PlayStation 5 or the Xbox Series X.

799
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,680
I promise you this podcast would be a waste of time because I would never play another game ever again.

800
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,680
This podcast is a waste of time anyway.

801
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,680
We're talking to the never know what I mean.

802
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,680
No, it's just our mates.

803
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,680
We're just taking a piss out of this fucking nerds.

804
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,680
No, because even that's got even that's wilted down.

805
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,680
It's only the select few that take the piss.

806
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Everyone else has stopped taking the piss.

807
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680
They've got bored as well.

808
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Except I listen no more.

809
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,680
This is the novel he's worn off of us being twats.

810
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Yeah, that will be exciting though.

811
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,680
If that if that I'll give you that if that comes out on console, that will be very, very fucking cool.

812
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,680
This is what I'm saying.

813
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Unique is what it will be.

814
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,680
You saying and I will never have it.

815
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680
You will never convince me otherwise.

816
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680
All right, you will never convince you can try.

817
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:27,680
You can try right now because I know you're going to because you're going to be on me.

818
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,680
There is no reason World of Warcraft cannot be on consoles.

819
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Talking shit.

820
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,680
There is no reason.

821
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,680
No reason at all.

822
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
ESO can be on consoles.

823
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Knights of the Old Republic could be on consoles.

824
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,680
There is no reason World of Warcraft could not be on consoles.

825
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,680
They could have a dumbed down version.

826
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680
They could remove certain things.

827
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,680
It's already done as fuck.

828
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Well, there was no reason you can do the toolbar system that you have.

829
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,680
You could even write you could even just give me just give me your number one reason right off the rip.

830
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Right.

831
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Just straight off the top of the dome.

832
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Boom, boom, boom.

833
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,680
What is your number one reason that World of Warcraft cannot come to console?

834
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,680
Too many abilities.

835
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Right.

836
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,680
OK.

837
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,680
So make World of Warcraft come to consoles, but you can only use it with keyboard support.

838
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,680
You can use a keyboard on consoles.

839
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,680
What would be the point?

840
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Why not?

841
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,680
Because you're playing it on a massive television and you just got a keyboard.

842
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,680
Yeah, but you can just plug your fucking HDMI into the laptop or computer and then boom, you're playing it on a massive television.

843
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,680
But it's completely different.

844
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,680
I get what you mean.

845
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Because how am I going to play on the television on my laptop?

846
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
I've got a big old heavy laptop.

847
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,680
You haven't fucking played it long enough to understand that Blizzard are not going to invest money into that.

848
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,680
They've barely got any money to stay alive now, let alone fucking.

849
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,680
I bet they have because you just pumped 100 quid down on some shitty old expansion that you're not really that bothered about.

850
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,680
You're getting you're pretending in your own brain.

851
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,680
I'm so hyped in reality.

852
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,680
We know that you're not.

853
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,680
It's going to be fun.

854
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,680
You want God of War Ragnarok.

855
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,680
That's all you want.

856
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,680
All right.

857
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,680
You're living in space.

858
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,680
You're in no man's sky.

859
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
You're just bored and for there's nothing to buy.

860
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
What else can I waste my money on?

861
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,680
World of Warcraft fucking hovercraft edition.

862
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Have you seen my Dunharrow King Funko Pop?

863
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Very cool.

864
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,680
It's very cool.

865
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Yeah, very cool.

866
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680
One that off of eBay, not nerd base eBay.

867
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Well, sorry.

868
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,680
You've missed.

869
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,680
I just weren't listening because I because you're talking shit.

870
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Because it's facts.

871
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,680
There's facts.

872
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680
I'm excited for it, but it's not happening for another fucking six months.

873
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,680
So what am I getting excited about now?

874
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Regardless.

875
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Why can't it come to console?

876
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Because it just won't.

877
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Why?

878
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,680
There's no point.

879
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,680
It's too established as a PC game.

880
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,680
There's no point of it coming to fucking console.

881
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Of course there is.

882
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680
Look how many people they're missing out on in the market.

883
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,680
No.

884
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,680
What do you mean no?

885
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,680
That's not an answer.

886
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Just no.

887
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,680
There's millions and millions and millions of people that do not play PC.

888
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,680
I wouldn't want them to.

889
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,680
I would rather.

890
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,680
You're selfish prick.

891
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,680
No, I would rather.

892
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,680
They invested that time into doing a different game and putting it on the console instead.

893
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Why?

894
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
You're so fucking moody when you're tired and achy.

895
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
I'm not moody.

896
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,680
You're just not coming at me with a reason that they can't come on to the console.

897
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,680
There's obviously a reason.

898
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,680
They haven't done it yet.

899
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Have they?

900
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Well, like you just said, they won't do it because they don't need to.

901
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,680
They don't.

902
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,680
They don't need to.

903
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,680
So all that untapped money and resources they could consume.

904
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Yes, but Blizzard as an entity are a bit thick anyway.

905
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,680
The game itself as a whole hasn't got that much.

906
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,680
I reckon after Dragonfly it's done.

907
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,680
I reckon that's it.

908
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,680
If Dragonfly comes out and it's not immediately amazing, that's it.

909
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,680
It's dead.

910
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,680
One hundred percent.

911
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,680
You know, I mean, there's especially with things like Starfield coming out, how good

912
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,680
No Man's Sky is at the moment.

913
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,680
They don't have the ability to recover.

914
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,680
There's been previous expansions.

915
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Warlords of Draenor was one.

916
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680
It come out was absolute wank.

917
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,680
That was basically when I stopped and they very, very nearly didn't recover.

918
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,680
They went down to like four million players, which is a lot of people.

919
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,680
But when you're when you're used to sitting in the 30s or the 40 millions, that's quite

920
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,680
a big decrease.

921
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
What was it about that DLC that made you want to stop playing?

922
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,680
What constitutes a good DLC from a bad DLC in an MMO?

923
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Because the way I see it and I know it's very ignorant.

924
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Let me finish.

925
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,680
Is go kill 10 pigs, go collect 10 apples, bring them back, me collect your quest and

926
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,680
your XP.

927
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Yes, I'm being ignorant, but that's what I see from Star Wars.

928
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680
That's what I see from ESO and that's what I see from World of Warcraft.

929
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,680
So when an when an expansion comes out, is it not just new location, more of the same?

930
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:43,680
It is the the whole package in terms of the release of it, how the servers fare with it.

931
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:50,680
So it's notorious that when a new expansion releases on World of Warcraft, the servers,

932
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,680
they just go to shit.

933
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Either you can't actually play it on day one or when you get in, it's laggy as fuck.

934
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Things are glitched out.

935
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,680
You have to wait for for a patch, which normally takes a week for things to actually work.

936
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,680
It's they they there's only been a very rare like one or two expansion releases where it's

937
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,680
actually been a decent release where you could play it off the bat.

938
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,680
So straight away that turns people off because you get people that are going, oh, the expansion

939
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,680
releases in two weeks.

940
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680
I'll be playing it in three weeks.

941
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,680
They'll purposely wait.

942
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,680
So you you get things where, yes, it is.

943
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,680
It's an MMO.

944
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,680
So the bread and butter of it, the building blocks, they don't change.

945
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,680
However, the the story behind each expansion and things like that and the new things they

946
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,680
bring in and the old things they take out and the bits that they build on do make it

947
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
that that that bit better.

948
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,680
And if they do that type of shit wrong, they don't add anything decent or they add shit

949
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,680
that everyone hates, then it just flops, man.

950
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
It just flops like the latest one, Shadowlands.

951
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680
I know it's old now, but that's the latest expansion that's out at the moment.

952
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,680
And everything's time gated.

953
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,680
You need certain things, but you can only do a certain amount of things once a week

954
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,680
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

955
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680
So everything takes forever.

956
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,680
It's purposely made to get you to max level as quickly as possible and then fucking everything

957
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,680
take as long as possible so that you have to keep fucking paying for game time to play.

958
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680
It's just very it's just very boring.

959
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,680
So if this next expansion comes out and it's more of the same, I don't think it will survive.

960
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,680
I think people will just go fuck it.

961
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
I'm going Final Fantasy instead.

962
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,680
This is another one.

963
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:31,680
See, like I say, I'm very naive to MMOs, but from my limited experience of ESO,

964
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Night's the Old Republic and my very, very limited time on World of Warcraft, it is all the same.

965
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,680
Now, if you're invested in ESO, which I probably I probably am.

966
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,680
I know more about ESO than I do Star Wars or World of Warcraft just because I played a lot of

967
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Elder Scrolls games.

968
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,680
Star Wars is kind of its own contained thing, so it's not really anything I'd know.

969
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,680
It is all the same.

970
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Go do 10 of this, 10 of that.

971
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:04,680
I feel MMOs are they target addicted personalities with 100 percent with and also people that

972
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,680
enjoy the number crunching.

973
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,680
Definitely.

974
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:16,680
There's a very interesting endorphin fly off when you level up on MMOs, much like when you're in

975
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,680
the gym and you come out the gym, you get these endorphins or even when you're in there, you feel

976
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,680
strong, you feel powerful.

977
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,680
It's the same kind of feeling when you level up.

978
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Especially like you're level eight and you have a little look and you're like, oh, level 12, I can

979
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,680
fire a grapple hook and fucking choke someone out.

980
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,680
So when you get to, when you're level 11, you're just over that tipping point to level 12, knowing

981
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,680
you're about to get that cool new thing and it goes bang, little fireworks, you're like yes, and

982
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,680
it lets off the endorphins.

983
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,680
It's very exciting.

984
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Now that grind continues for many people and yeah, I do feel what you say is correct.

985
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
They make it so same with Destiny.

986
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,680
You can only do a certain amount of X things a day.

987
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,680
So it means you have to keep going back whether or not you have to pay.

988
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Obviously Destiny hasn't got a subscription service other than like battle passes and things, but

989
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,680
that's different.

990
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,680
That's optional.

991
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,680
But it makes you keep coming back.

992
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,680
And if you keep coming back to do the things that you can't do all in one go, it looks good for them

993
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680
because their player base is consistently high.

994
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Obviously that player base will drop off.

995
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,680
But the thing I don't like about most games like this, like Destiny 2 is the prime example for me

996
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,680
because out of anything that's close to an MMO, that's the one I've put the most time in, is it

997
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:38,680
really gives you that horrible feeling of, what is it, FOMO, the fear of missing out.

998
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Oh yeah.

999
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
It is a horrific feeling.

1000
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:48,680
So with Destiny, I've said before my biggest problem with it is I'm terrified to have got a

1001
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,680
god roll and dismantled it.

1002
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,680
So I just literally put everything in my vault.

1003
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,680
So half my time is just going through my inventory and checking up that I haven't got

1004
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680
I'm not about to dismantle something really good.

1005
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,680
But if I'm not playing it for a day or two, I start getting a bit anxious.

1006
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,680
I'm like, I bet I've missed a god roll in the store.

1007
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,680
I bet I've done this.

1008
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,680
I bet I've done that.

1009
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,680
And it makes me kind of not want to go back to it, but also go back to it at the same time.

1010
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,680
You know what I mean?

1011
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,680
And that's one of the biggest problems for me with Destiny.

1012
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,680
And I'm sure, like you say, it's the same for MMOs.

1013
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
The FOMO is a horrible feeling.

1014
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Yep, some it can either be very, very fun because you really enjoy doing that type of shit,

1015
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,680
or it will suck the fun out of it fucking quickly.

1016
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,680
And it was one of them where I obviously I love doing it because I've been playing World of Warcraft

1017
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
since it first come out.

1018
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,680
So years and years and years and years.

1019
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,680
And yeah, as I've as I've grown up with it, the current expansion, they brought out a new area

1020
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680
and I rinsed it real quick because of that exact thing.

1021
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,680
I didn't want to fall behind with my guild that I was with.

1022
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,680
I wanted to be at the top.

1023
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:03,680
I wanted to progress the furthest and in the quickest time possible so that I wasn't behind anyone else.

1024
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,680
I wanted everyone else to be behind me.

1025
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,680
And it meant that I just fucking I got bored of it real quick because I've done everything.

1026
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,680
I ended up logging in purpose to do the same mundane tasks, 15 quests.

1027
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,680
And that's it.

1028
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680
And then logging back off and doing something else.

1029
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Something about it makes you come back and if it weren't for my subscription running out,

1030
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,680
I would probably still be logging in every day just to say.

1031
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,680
But I've been quite good with it and let it run out and haven't bothered going back to it yet.

1032
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,680
Because I said to myself, I'm not going to because I was literally sitting there.

1033
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Best believe it when I say this last like two weeks of my my subscription,

1034
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:51,680
I was sitting there on the laptop for two, three hours just flicking through characters, not actually doing anything, just wasting time.

1035
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,680
And it was yeah, that was the store that broke the camel's back.

1036
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,680
I was like, what the fuck am I doing?

1037
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Just wasting my time looking at a character screen.

1038
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,680
So is it I see it as another way of keeping people in.

1039
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,680
So you've got the fear of missing out.

1040
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Obviously, you've got the daily tasks, which gives you bonus XP and all that sort of stuff.

1041
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680
You have weekly tasks. Yeah.

1042
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,680
You have things you can only do a certain amount of times a day. Yep.

1043
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,680
And you'll have other tasks that you can only do a couple of times a day or whatnot, which makes you keep going back.

1044
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Yeah. Pile on top of that.

1045
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:34,680
The monetary cost of reality, your time and the money you're you're putting in your your monthly subscription fee.

1046
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,680
So you're like, well, I have to go on there because I'm paying for it.

1047
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,680
So you worry that you're not using your time because you're paying for it.

1048
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,680
So you're wasting your money. This is where they infect your daily life.

1049
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,680
They were clever because they got around that 100 percent agree with you.

1050
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:57,680
They made it so that you could buy the currency in World Warcraft is gold, gold, copper and silver standard shit.

1051
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,680
They made it so that you could purchase game time with in-game gold.

1052
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,680
So you now have people who are who brag going, I haven't paid a subscription for over a year,

1053
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,680
but they they neglect to tell you the fact where they've sat there for almost a week farming gold

1054
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:20,680
so that they could pay for a subscription to then sit there and farm for more gold to pay for another subscription.

1055
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,680
You know what I mean? So so out of the four weeks they get, they've had to spend about a week.

1056
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,680
And if you're like me and you weren't I wasn't good at getting money.

1057
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,680
I really weren't. It would take you a lot longer.

1058
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,680
So you know, you know, I mean, like you were spending half your subscription just

1059
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,680
trying to get more gold to buy a longer subscription.

1060
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680
So that's how they sort of got around that side of it.

1061
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Are people who can't afford it, they can just fucking they can they can earn in-game gold to pay for it.

1062
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,680
So let's lock in some more players that don't can't afford to play World Warcraft.

1063
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,680
You know, I mean, it was probably an accessibility thing.

1064
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,680
It allowed people who don't have the money for a subscription to pay it to to play the game,

1065
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,680
but very fucking sneaky because it meant that you were locked into doing it for at least a couple of days.

1066
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,680
It seems like quite a predatory keeps the player base up as well.

1067
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Imagine it'll keep them numbers up.

1068
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,680
It seems like quite a predatory, you know, game in design and this throughout them all.

1069
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Yeah. You know, and that's that's why I don't like MMOs because of that FOMO feeling.

1070
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,680
I don't like missing out on stuff.

1071
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:32,680
I especially hate it. Fortnite's got it to a degree, not not massively,

1072
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:39,680
but it's becoming more and more common now in video games to for there to be items.

1073
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Apex, for a prime example, items that become available.

1074
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,680
And then once they're gone, they're gone.

1075
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,680
So you're like, well, if I don't buy this now, this cosmetic, this 23 quid, I will never get it again.

1076
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,680
And then then what you'll probably find is in a year's time, they'll bring it back for a special thing.

1077
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,680
Yeah, we brought this back for a year.

1078
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,680
So I'll face it all that time.

1079
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680
There's the battle pass for Fortnite right now.

1080
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,680
The Darth Vader is level 100.

1081
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,680
So you have to get the Darth Vader is like my favourite character in the history.

1082
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,680
And then we guess you can buy the tears.

1083
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,680
Of course you can buy the tears.

1084
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,680
Now, I grinded the balls off that game that season.

1085
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,680
I went mad on it.

1086
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,680
I'm still only like level 60.

1087
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:27,680
Same and but the good thing about Fortnite is if you don't play it for a while, when you go back, it often puts you in loads of bots.

1088
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,680
So that's why you get wins when you first go back.

1089
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,680
Which obviously releases endorphins and then you want to play more.

1090
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,680
It's very clever.

1091
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Anyway, when you when you go back after you haven't played it for a while, it supercharges your XP.

1092
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,680
So it lets you catch up.

1093
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,680
You know, so if you just play it every day, your XP will just be going up as normal.

1094
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,680
If you don't play it for a week, it will let you catch up to the people that have been playing it.

1095
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Warcraft does the same. It's very smart, though.

1096
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,680
It's very good. And I think that is actually a good thing.

1097
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,680
But regardless, you have to play and I don't really want to play that much Fortnite.

1098
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:01,680
But I do really want that Darth Vader skin and it ends on September the 16th that season.

1099
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,680
So I think what I'm going to do is I've already got about 3000 coins on there.

1100
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,680
It's going to cost about five thousand eight hundred coins to get him.

1101
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,680
So I think I'm probably just going to pay the 1520 credit is just to skip to the battle.

1102
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Your time spent to get it isn't is worth more than just the 20 quid.

1103
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,680
Exactly. So then I can have Darth Vader if I go back to Fortnight, which don't get me wrong.

1104
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,680
I don't think he's going to die anytime soon.

1105
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,680
But whenever I go back to Fortnight, I would like to play as Darth Vader.

1106
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,680
And if I don't get it now, because it's a battle pass only thing, I don't think I'll ever be able to get it again.

1107
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,680
So if I don't buy it, it's gone forever.

1108
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
That is also an awful way of doing things.

1109
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:49,680
But that is OK when you're a busy adult who has a family life and you just you have to pick between whether you want to sit there and waste your time grinding that shit.

1110
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Or when you're already two thirds of the way through and you know, I mean, for the sake of 20 quid, you go, well, I really want that.

1111
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,680
I'm going to be annoyed if I don't get it.

1112
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,680
I can save myself a couple of weeks worth of or weeks.

1113
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,680
But I don't know how long it would take you to get to one hundred on that battle pass.

1114
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,680
But yeah, I understand where you're coming from.

1115
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,680
One hundred percent. But like you say, it's all I say is the is the fear of missing out.

1116
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Because if I go back to play Fortnight in a year's time, I will kick myself if I get right back into it.

1117
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,680
Yeah, I wish I brought that. I can't get it no more.

1118
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:29,680
But this is the the depressing thing with World of Warcraft is that you have you have raids, bigger dungeons.

1119
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Obviously, you have them in Destiny as well.

1120
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:41,680
And like now, now that there is you will grind as I did for fucking weeks to get the best gear possible

1121
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,680
so you can do the raid with your guild successfully, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1122
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,680
And obviously they do different difficulties, all that shit, which in turn gives you better gear, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1123
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,680
And then so you invest a lot of time and then they come out with an expansion release,

1124
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,680
which immediately makes everything that you've worked for useless.

1125
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,680
Because when that expansion comes out, all of that gear is, you know, I mean, it's redundant.

1126
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:14,680
So especially now is when you get a massive player drop off because people like myself and there are loads of us out there

1127
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,680
will sit there and go, well, I'm going to fucking waste my time playing this game, getting all the gear and stuff, because what's the point?

1128
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,680
There is no point. So it's yes.

1129
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:33,680
It's just very addictive and it's difficult to to get out of that mindset and to come away from that because of FOMO.

1130
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,680
You don't want to miss out on shit. And it does take over your life to the point where not long ago I actually turned around to Stefan,

1131
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,680
had a talk with her and I said it was an addiction.

1132
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,680
I went, I'm going to I'm going to stop playing it.

1133
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:51,680
And I did for a couple of months because I was like, this is take I was running the guild and it had over 200 people in it.

1134
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,680
That doesn't sound like a lot of people, but when you're it sounds ridiculous when you go, I was in charge of these people.

1135
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,680
But I was running the guild. I mean, I was sorting out the rage and we had a discord.

1136
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:08,680
It was it was quite big. So and there was drama, you know, I mean, in game drama or like real time arguments and shit between people.

1137
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
And obviously everyone was from all over the world.

1138
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,680
So there was there was clashes with people and all this types of shit.

1139
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:23,680
So it was just I mean, it was a second job. And I think that's what happens with MMORPG is sometimes if you're not careful,

1140
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:29,680
that shit becomes a second job easily and you do start worrying about your life.

1141
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Yeah, it becomes your life. And when you've got a family or you've got a girlfriend, boyfriend, fucking whatever, or you've got responsibilities,

1142
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:43,680
that shit, that shit is damaging 100 percent. Luckily for me, as much as I've got an addictive personality,

1143
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,680
your hands won't let you crack on. No, I just can't. I can't stick with a game for that long.

1144
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,680
Yeah, I've I've tried it. So obviously I had a little go on World Warcraft.

1145
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,680
You know, I was obsessed with Destiny for, you know, a couple of months maybe.

1146
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,680
And I was like, this is it. This is the one. This is what I'm doing.

1147
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,680
This is going to be the game I play, you know, indefinitely, because I've got friends that I've had on there since, you know,

1148
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:16,680
PS3 days and the or PS4 days, should I say, and Destiny, they've only played you go on their game library.

1149
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:23,680
The only games they've played Destiny one, Destiny two and their hours are like in like tens, fifteen, twenty thousand.

1150
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,680
I wish I liked to gain that much where I could play it that much.

1151
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:35,680
And the problem is with these games to do the good stuff like Destiny, ESO and World Warcraft, you have to get into a guild.

1152
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,680
It's not simple as, you know, just clicking a button and you joined a guild and then there's friendly people in the upper end.

1153
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,680
You have to go through this discord server or you have to ask what is your what is your time zone?

1154
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,680
What are your reasons for joining this? And it's very like it's like having a job interview.

1155
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,680
Yeah, it makes me feel uncomfortable anyway, because I'm always not not like the most clued up when it comes to MMOs and things like that.

1156
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,680
Terrified of making a mistake or screwing it up for other people.

1157
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:08,680
So then you get you get put into these guilds and things. And if you don't turn up, it gives me the mental strain.

1158
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,680
I'm like, I have to go on. I'm going to have to have to do this.

1159
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,680
That's exactly why I have to. I can't go out because I have to do this.

1160
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,680
That's very bad. Why do I have to do this?

1161
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:25,680
And then I think on the other end of it, I think games where where you don't have to catch up again,

1162
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,680
games like No Man's Sky where you can pick it up and drop it and it doesn't it doesn't matter.

1163
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,680
You're not you're not punished. You're not missing out on anything.

1164
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,680
The game's so fucking big. Apart from the expeditions.

1165
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,680
You know, please bring back the Normandy. Yes.

1166
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,680
Yes. But other than that, if you're like me, you're not really too interested in the expeditions only because I'm a new player.

1167
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,680
So I'm just so fucking fascinated with what I'm doing at the moment.

1168
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,680
How are you not bored yet, by the way? You still love it.

1169
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,680
I'm obsessed. I know I'm happy. I love that you love it.

1170
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,680
I thought you'd be bored because you look you seem like me in terms of you.

1171
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,680
You're like, I love this. This is great. Anyway, until next thing, I picked you up.

1172
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
I think it's because I don't know what's in the game.

1173
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,680
I don't know what I'm what what what awaits me around the corner.

1174
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,680
So that's the thing. No one really does because it's infinite.

1175
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:21,680
I know one thing I'm after at the moment is a a sentient frigate like a living frigate.

1176
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,680
That's what you want. That's what you're supposed to know.

1177
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:33,680
That's what I'm trying to. I saw an article of it and I had to get I'm trying to do as minimal research as possible so that I don't spoil anything.

1178
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:40,680
But when I scroll over on my phone, it gives me all the fucking articles and it was on there and it was it was a farming thing of how to get this.

1179
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,680
I read it. It weren't a farming thing. It was just fucking telling you how you could possibly get one.

1180
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680
And I just thought that's cool. I'd like to have one of them.

1181
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,680
So now I have I don't know how to get one. I can't remember but that's what I'm after.

1182
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,680
You set your own goals. So I'm just fucking around doing that at the moment.

1183
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:06,680
And then obviously obviously Connors playing it not your brother-in-law our little ginger friend Conrod our D&D buddy that hasn't introduced us to D&D yet, but he will shout out to Connor.

1184
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680
He's playing it now, but he plays it on on PC.

1185
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:17,680
But the the the cross platform and the in-game voice is perfect. It works really really well. It's very good.

1186
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,680
So that's like like fucking hell. I can play with him when he's on a PC.

1187
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,680
Then we haven't got a fuck around with Discord or any of that shit. It's fun man. I like it sir.

1188
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,680
No, maybe maybe when I hit over a hundred hours, I might probably go.

1189
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,680
Yeah, I'm getting a bit fucking waft here. But at the moment, no bro, I've got a I've got a weekend free.

1190
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:43,680
Steph's not here. Unfortunately, so I'll be pining for in the evenings, but I shall console myself by sitting on no man's sky until the early hours.

1191
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680
We pumping him hours up to 60 by the end of the week.

1192
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,680
100% 100% man.

1193
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,680
But like I say though, he doesn't it doesn't punish you for not playing it.

1194
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,680
And you can go back and the only time I say it didn't punish me.

1195
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,680
But when I hadn't played it from launch and then I jumped back in, I don't know what the time frame was.

1196
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,680
But everything that I had acquired was like nothing void.

1197
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,680
I went in my inventory and it was like this is useless. This is useless.

1198
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:14,680
This man to it. So that's why I just started again. So I don't know. I do what I'm doing. I need to do the tutorial.

1199
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,680
Yeah. Yeah. But that's not punishing the game completely changed.

1200
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,680
And it wasn't there was nothing that I'd lost out on because everything had been replaced with other things.

1201
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,680
Fantastic game. But yeah, the MMO model is not for me.

1202
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,680
It's a dangerous one. It is a very dangerous one.

1203
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:40,680
And I can I can luckily for me on from the outside looking in, I can see where these stories come from of people getting really addicted to them.

1204
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,680
Yeah. And but then dangerously addicted to them.

1205
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,680
But yeah, luckily, I'm not that obsessed or nowhere near even on that level with any game.

1206
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,680
But I can definitely see why people end up going down that road.

1207
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,680
But if they release Star Wars, the Old Republic on PS5, then maybe I will.

1208
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,680
Yeah, it is. The graphics and everything it will.

1209
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,680
That will be fucking mental. I would happily play that because that that that sounds fun as fuck.

1210
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,680
But we'll see. Yeah, we will see. Yeah.

1211
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Next up, we have there's more, is there? Yeah.

1212
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Evolve. This will be a short and sweet one.

1213
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:27,680
Evolve is a game where it's for V1, the one being a monster that surprise, surprise evolves.

1214
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,680
Yeah, you were you were a monster.

1215
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,680
You start spawned as I believe there was four or five different monsters and then they brought out a couple more.

1216
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:42,680
And you could you there was you spawn into the map and there's all animals and other shit running around that as the monster, you could go and eat.

1217
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,680
And there would be a meter.

1218
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,680
And the idea is fill it up. And there was three evolutions.

1219
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,680
And obviously, you'd get more powerful. Your body would change.

1220
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,680
You'd get more abilities, blah, blah, blah.

1221
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,680
And the job of the other four were to come and kill you.

1222
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,680
They couldn't evolve or anything. But yeah, it was the monster was obviously powerful as fuck.

1223
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,680
But if you had a well coordinated team, it was very easy to down.

1224
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:12,680
It was unbalanced is what it was. And when it first come out, it was it was it was fun.

1225
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:19,680
But like I say, a mixture of it being unbalanced and not really that in depth in what you were doing.

1226
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,680
Like there weren't really a story or anything like that. Repetitive. Yeah.

1227
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,680
So it died very, very quickly.

1228
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,680
And then you could play the legacy version of it. And there was legacy servers.

1229
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,680
So I don't really fully understand it.

1230
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,680
But what I can gauge is that you you could still because they shut down the servers.

1231
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,680
They completely like went now. Fuck this. This is done.

1232
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,680
So you could not play it. So I'm going to assume they brought back the legacy servers so that people could play it.

1233
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,680
But it just meant that the developers didn't have to do anything with it.

1234
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,680
I would imagine, say it was on version one point zero three.

1235
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,680
And that was the latest version of it.

1236
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,680
They just released let you play that on the legacy version.

1237
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,680
And there was never going to be any updates.

1238
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,680
And then recently the original servers come back.

1239
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,680
They brought it completely live again.

1240
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,680
And it's slowly creeping up the tables on steam.

1241
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,680
I saw a stat that said half a million people were playing. Is that true?

1242
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,680
Is that false? Was that the all time peak?

1243
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,680
I tell you what, I think I've got steam on it.

1244
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,680
So if I load that up, I think I can probably have a look and be able to tell you.

1245
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,680
But it it came out a while ago. I'm talking years ago.

1246
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:32,680
And I feel like it might be a case of where it's it's aged a bit better.

1247
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,680
I mean, they've they've gone now. This was shit.

1248
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Dropped it and it's come back and people.

1249
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,680
It wasn't that bad after all.

1250
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,680
It's come back to a different world.

1251
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:52,680
Possibly now I've gone on to the gaming library and nothing on it.

1252
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,680
Ignore that. None of that is true.

1253
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,680
We might have nothing on it.

1254
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,680
I've typed in a bowl.

1255
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,680
Nothing's come up on the on the store for evolve.

1256
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,680
So that's I don't really fucking know.

1257
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,680
Well, I'm sure I saw something that said half a million players,

1258
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,680
but that was almost certainly all time peak.

1259
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,680
I can't imagine that is the case right now.

1260
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,680
Either way, it's it's it is back.

1261
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,680
I probably won't bother giving it a go, if I'm honest.

1262
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,680
But I hope it may be because it was it was a cool concept.

1263
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,680
The monsters were cool. It was it was decent.

1264
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:33,680
It just needed it needed more work like another game that I would I would fucking love to come back

1265
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,680
and really would love it if they put some more time and effort into it is Anthem.

1266
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,680
I think that would be really good.

1267
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,680
I don't know if you ever played Anthem.

1268
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,680
I didn't. I'm a bit of a review whore.

1269
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,680
Very fun. So not what I've changed over the years.

1270
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,680
I've mellowed. I was very and my mate Clark, he's always give me stick for that.

1271
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,680
If a game come out and it was like less than 10, I was like, it's shit.

1272
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,680
It's the worst thing. I'm the same. Oh, yeah.

1273
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,680
It's rubbish. But now I'm looking and I'm seeing sevens and I'm like, you go.

1274
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,680
Yeah, it might be all right. Yeah, it might be all right for me.

1275
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,680
Let me form an opinion.

1276
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,680
I'm not saying we've we've days gone.

1277
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,680
I absolutely love that game.

1278
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,680
It's not for everyone. It didn't get the greatest reviews.

1279
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,680
Got a cult following though. Yeah, a lot of people love it.

1280
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,680
It's a fantastic game.

1281
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:25,680
But because it came out or people were comparing it to like the last of us, which is not.

1282
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,680
But yeah, I won't be playing evolve.

1283
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,680
But yeah, I was a review whore. Things have changed.

1284
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,680
I no longer review whore. I form my own reviews and this is Diabolical.

1285
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,680
And it's like this is a three. This is awful. It's janky. It's horrific.

1286
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,680
The problem is with games and reviews as a whole is obviously not everybody.

1287
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,680
Not everything's for everyone.

1288
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:50,680
But sometimes a game can look really good and review really well.

1289
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,680
But when I play it, the controls or the way it moves and stuff just don't vibe me.

1290
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,680
I don't like the feeling. Even silly little things like the noise in the menus and things, they annoy me.

1291
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,680
If you've got a nice little crunchy or little menu noise when you're going across.

1292
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,680
I love that. You know, little things like that. I love.

1293
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:14,680
So they change depending on my opinion.

1294
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,680
Well, the review scores don't really matter that much.

1295
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,680
Like I say, unless it's just a buggy mess, don't play it.

1296
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Sometimes they're bad reviews you're playing.

1297
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,680
And you say, no, no, I like the feel of this. This is for me.

1298
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Not every game's for everybody. And that's what I've learned.

1299
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,680
So you do the same. I agree.

1300
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,680
And on that bombshell, hear what we've been playing.

1301
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,680
We've just done that. No, we didn't.

1302
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,680
We've literally done that segment. No man's sky.

1303
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,680
That's what I've been playing. You haven't been playing anything.

1304
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,680
I have. I played jacuzzi.

1305
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,680
Oh, go on then.

1306
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,680
It's all right.

1307
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,680
You know what I mean? No, I played jacuzzi. It's good.

1308
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,680
It's a very I've wanted to play for a long time.

1309
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,680
It's on Game Pass. So I thought solid. I downloaded it.

1310
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,680
And it's a very interesting game.

1311
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680
Very Western.

1312
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,680
So it's it's like they're hard games to get into because they

1313
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,680
the dialogue seems to go on forever.

1314
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,680
You know, there's times he's just like, just just just finish this.

1315
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
Shut the fuck up so I can stab you.

1316
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Yeah, let's just move on with the story.

1317
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:25,680
They're like not really long text boxes just to say, wow, no way.

1318
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,680
Come on, man.

1319
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,680
Just want to play interesting game.

1320
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,680
I like your Koosa. It's good.

1321
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,680
I played no man's sky this week as well.

1322
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,680
What am I doing?

1323
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,680
The football season starts this evening.

1324
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,680
I'm now football orientated on just football again.

1325
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,680
I love football. I live and breathe it.

1326
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,680
Who's playing tonight?

1327
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,680
It is Crystal Palace versus Arsenal.

1328
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,640
is Arsenal going for a Crystal Palace win 2-1. 2-1. Okay. At

1329
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,320
Sellers Park, I fancy Palace to have a go. Right. I've got no

1330
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,440
opinions. Okay. Well, they. But I know that Arsenal aren't

1331
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,560
that good anymore. They should be better this season but

1332
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:06,440
Palace. Yeah. It's nice to know. Brand new season. I'm so out

1333
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,920
of touch. Well, you've got two tasks. One, watch football this

1334
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,280
season. Support the mighty Ammers. Yeah. And you know,

1335
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,520
it's 38 games in the season. You can get behind it. Yeah. Two,

1336
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,320
you have to play Cyberpunk. Please soon. Just start it. I

1337
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,920
don't have the time. This is a no man's sky zone. Well, when

1338
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,760
when that's over, that's gotta be an expert. How much is it on

1339
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Amazon? What do you need it on Amazon for? I thought you owned

1340
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,120
it. No, I've I got it refunded, didn't I? Well, just get it off

1341
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,360
the store. I played it. Remember when they come out and

1342
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,360
they said, look, we're really sorry for producing this

1343
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,320
absolute **** We'll actually give you your money back and I

1344
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,240
was straight on it. I went, give me the **** money back.

1345
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,760
Well, when they said, when CD Projekt Red said, oh, if you

1346
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,320
don't like it, ask PlayStation for a refund and

1347
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,960
PlayStation were like, that's not how we operate it. Yeah,

1348
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,920
they went, let's just take it off the store. Yeah. Yeah,

1349
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,520
they didn't. PlayStation are wankers for giving refunds. I'm

1350
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,960
actually get one for for a game once and I was very happy

1351
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:14,440
about it. Um Cyberpunk twenty seventy-seven for eighteen

1352
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,800
last PlayStation four. Right. Eighteen quid for PlayStation.

1353
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,080
Purchase. Oh no, there is no PS5 version, is it? It's an

1354
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,840
upgrade. So, you buy the normal version and then I think the

1355
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,520
upgrade to PS5 is free through the PlayStation store. I don't

1356
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,040
know. I think that's how it works. Well, we'll check it out

1357
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,560
after this anyway. So, yeah, that's what we've been playing.

1358
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,960
Um I haven't played that much obviously because I've been

1359
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,360
busy in the gym. I've been getting back into that which

1360
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,400
means I've been tired of an evening. Yeah. I try to do

1361
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,120
better next week. I'm sorry. Love Island is done now. So,

1362
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,520
that means I have an extra hour in the evening to do

1363
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,840
whatever. So, I might be playing No Man's Sky or I

1364
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,080
might be watching Killing Eve with Steph. We haven't really

1365
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:58,280
made up our minds yet. So, the world is my oyster. That's it.

1366
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,600
That is it. Really? So, yeah, thanks. Thanks for another

1367
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,800
week of listening to us Mumbo Jumbo. Thanks for listening

1368
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,040
Dean. We really appreciate your support. Uh bumps the numbers

1369
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,040
up. We all the 30 people that are listening. Thanks Connor

1370
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,160
brother-in-law and thanks Connor friend. You're the

1371
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,880
bestest. Yeah. Connor brother-in-law, Connor friend,

1372
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,240
me. Connor brother-in-law and Connor friend. I'm joking. I

1373
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:33,160
love you all. Peace and love baby. Bye everyone. Uro.