WEBVTT 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:04.820 Get this 45 minutes out of the way and then I 00:00:04.820 --> 00:00:07.080 can fuck you off out of my house. Yeah, nice. 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:11.519 That's how we start on it, isn't it? Welcome. 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:15.960 I'm back. Welcome to this episode of What's the 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:19.199 Buttons? Mark's with me. We've devoured a pizza 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:21.960 and we've watched Steph finish Shadow of the 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:26.839 Tomb Raider. How long has that taken you? Eight 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:33.070 years. But it's finally done. And might I add, 00:00:33.170 --> 00:00:36.469 100 % completion. It was on Xbox, so does that 00:00:36.469 --> 00:00:40.850 mean that 100 % is that just their version of 00:00:40.850 --> 00:00:43.469 a Platinum? Do you get anything? No, just game 00:00:43.469 --> 00:00:45.549 scores. That's it. Well, that's what it used 00:00:45.549 --> 00:00:48.170 to be back when I played it. Fair enough. So 00:00:48.170 --> 00:00:50.810 the PlayStation version of a Platinum, which 00:00:50.810 --> 00:01:00.399 is pretty cool to be fair. Get this left. You've 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.620 done it already, haven't you? Sorry. Sorry, I 00:01:04.620 --> 00:01:07.939 forgot. This happened last time, I was just constantly 00:01:07.939 --> 00:01:14.959 laughing. No, don't start. Come on, focus help. 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:20.200 You've bought some pins. I have bought some pins. 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.400 I want to talk about that because... Shout out, 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:25.299 Carl. Yeah, one of the patrons, Carl, he pointed 00:01:25.299 --> 00:01:27.879 out, sent us an article where... I don't know 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.540 if they're introducing that into... every Platinum. 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.260 Well, he said it was the replacement for PlayStation 00:01:34.260 --> 00:01:37.140 Stars. Yeah. If you don't know what PlayStation 00:01:37.140 --> 00:01:42.900 Stars are, they're like Game of Score, aren't 00:01:42.900 --> 00:01:45.579 they? I don't know. I didn't really look into 00:01:45.579 --> 00:01:48.620 it because you've got points and then you could 00:01:48.620 --> 00:01:51.719 use them for vouchers, couldn't you, I think? 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:55.299 Yeah. I don't actually know what you had to do 00:01:55.299 --> 00:01:58.299 to get the points. Was Sony's free loyalty program 00:01:58.299 --> 00:02:00.560 rewarding players with points and digital collectibles 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:03.859 for completing campaigns, playing games, and 00:02:03.859 --> 00:02:07.219 making purchases? I remember they used to have 00:02:07.219 --> 00:02:10.719 challenges that you could see. I don't know where 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:12.080 you could see them on the PlayStation. Oh, yeah, 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.719 it was on the app, wasn't it? Yeah, and it would 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.180 activate certain challenges and stuff. Yeah, 00:02:17.180 --> 00:02:19.919 play free online games. I think a lot of that 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.620 was to get the... You know the little things 00:02:22.620 --> 00:02:24.560 that was on the shelf? Yeah, the collectible 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:26.560 things that no one fucking looks at. But I don't 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.039 actually know if you got points for any of them. 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.319 I'm not too sure. Well, it says here that you 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.599 did or at some point there was some aspect of 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.860 it where it gave you points. Yeah, I definitely 00:02:36.860 --> 00:02:40.500 bought like two five or ten pound vouchers. Yeah, 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:44.080 yeah. So it's officially ending November 2nd. 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.199 review that users able to redeem points for wallet 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:51.039 funds or items until then um following a refocused 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:55.120 strategy from sony um earned by completing monthly 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.180 campaigns like playing specific games or earning 00:02:57.180 --> 00:03:00.340 trophies purchasing from the playstation store 00:03:00.340 --> 00:03:02.719 or being a playstation plus member so i reckon 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.599 we would have just got points passively for having 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:08.080 a fucking membership running i don't think i 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:11.039 was even at a membership at that point fuck those 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.810 in Either way, we've got something out of it. 00:03:12.949 --> 00:03:18.129 It says, Sony is refocusing. New members are 00:03:18.129 --> 00:03:20.069 no longer accepted. Campaign, blah, blah, blah, 00:03:20.069 --> 00:03:23.729 blah, blah. Why it's ending. Sony is evolving 00:03:23.729 --> 00:03:27.509 its player engagement, learning from stars. Oh, 00:03:27.590 --> 00:03:29.490 learning from stars to potentially build a new, 00:03:29.550 --> 00:03:31.849 improved loyalty program in the future. Though 00:03:31.849 --> 00:03:34.430 the current version's financial viability was 00:03:34.430 --> 00:03:37.590 questioned. Financial viability. Well, they're 00:03:37.590 --> 00:03:39.789 struggling, aren't they? It's fucking digital 00:03:39.789 --> 00:03:43.240 trophies. What the fuck? And a £5 voucher. What 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.719 were they struggling with? £5 voucher going on 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:47.439 a game that's already overpriced on the PlayStation 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:53.939 Store. So Kyle sent in an article where for... 00:03:53.939 --> 00:03:56.219 Is it just for Ghost of Tsushima and Ghost of 00:03:56.219 --> 00:03:58.419 Yotai? Yeah, just them two games. So for those 00:03:58.419 --> 00:04:01.180 two games, if you've got the platinum for those 00:04:01.180 --> 00:04:05.879 games, you can get a pin. Yeah, there was also 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.080 a T -shirt and a jacket. Yeah. You had to get, 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.080 I think it was a certain gold trophy for them. 00:04:13.139 --> 00:04:14.800 So here we go. That's a voice crack straight 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:19.740 away. Ghost of Yotai legendary Onryo platinum 00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:27.560 trophy pin. Pre -order. $25. Highlighting Atsu's 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.879 twin wolf Tsuba spinning behind her mask. It's 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.360 a cool looking fucking pin. Yeah, it's very cool. 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.660 That is a very, very cool pin. All I see was 00:04:36.660 --> 00:04:39.100 the thumbnail for the article. I didn't actually 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:41.480 click on it and read it. That looks fucking sick. 00:04:43.180 --> 00:04:46.720 So Ghost Rewards offers collectors items to earn 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.339 and purchase that are uniquely crafted to commemorate 00:04:49.339 --> 00:04:53.240 various tiers of in -game accomplishments. And 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.300 then, yeah, this is just a Players Who Complete 00:04:55.300 --> 00:05:00.600 Ghost of Yotai Platinum Trophy by April 30th, 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.639 2026. will be eligible to order the products 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:07.819 between November 4th and May 31st. November 4th, 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:11.879 2025 and May 31st, 2026. Yeah, so I've ordered 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.480 both of mine, but it says that they come between 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.000 two and three months. I wonder where they come 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:19.639 from. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, so that bit at 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:22.360 the back spins as well. Did you know that? No, 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.899 I didn't know that. So the pin with the mask 00:05:24.899 --> 00:05:27.620 and then the two wolves behind it, those two 00:05:27.620 --> 00:05:31.290 wolves spin around. That's cool. I quite like 00:05:31.290 --> 00:05:34.209 that. And then, yeah, you've got a ghost of Tsushima 00:05:34.209 --> 00:05:38.110 pin as well. Yeah, they're bastards for it though 00:05:38.110 --> 00:05:39.930 because I tried to order them both together and 00:05:39.930 --> 00:05:42.649 they won't let you do it. So I've had to pay 00:05:42.649 --> 00:05:46.689 like £10 postage per one. Dirty little fuckers. 00:05:48.990 --> 00:05:53.230 Why would they do that? Is it ghost? Yeah, the 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:57.850 Tsushima. Yeah, kind of similar. Does that one 00:05:57.850 --> 00:06:00.279 spin as well? I don't think it does. Yeah, they 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.939 look very similar. Yeah, very, very similar. 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:04.639 But they're very, very... Be prepared to wait 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.319 two to three months before your order is shipped. 00:06:06.459 --> 00:06:08.480 Was it Carl that also said that it's rumoured 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:10.399 that, yeah, they're replacing the stars? That's 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.899 what started this whole thing, wasn't it? I don't 00:06:13.899 --> 00:06:19.420 know if that would be replacing stars. Because... 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:22.000 Well, that's what I say. It all depends whether 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.860 stars you got rewards for platinum games. That's 00:06:24.860 --> 00:06:28.079 what I say. I'm not too sure. I get what he means. 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.720 If that is the thing, instead of money replacement, 00:06:31.259 --> 00:06:33.560 like they're putting pins instead of giving you 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:39.180 rewards for money. I feel like, because what 00:06:39.180 --> 00:06:42.800 was it? It was 25 quid a pop. Yeah, like 28 euros 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.579 or something. And then 10 quid posted. Yeah, 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.920 something like that. I feel like that's either, 00:06:49.100 --> 00:06:51.639 like that's cool that you get something to commemorate 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.519 getting a platinum rather than just a digital 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.100 trophy. But at the same time, you imagine if 00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:58.920 you platinum every game you get. Yeah. Yeah, 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.500 it's going to get expensive. Of course it is. 00:07:00.579 --> 00:07:02.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you fucking... But 00:07:02.980 --> 00:07:04.959 then you've got, obviously, what Carl said in 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:06.939 there, that they're going for, what, 130 quid 00:07:06.939 --> 00:07:10.779 on eBay. Shall we see what they are? I'm assuming 00:07:10.779 --> 00:07:12.620 that's just Tsushima. I don't think anyone's 00:07:12.620 --> 00:07:16.180 got the Yota ones yet. But it's mad. Instead 00:07:16.180 --> 00:07:18.360 of someone platinum the game... They'll just 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:20.600 buy it. Yeah. I suppose it's because it's collectible, 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.439 isn't it? It's something that you're... But I 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.740 feel like once you put a date on it where you 00:07:26.740 --> 00:07:29.079 say this will no longer be available for purchase. 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.160 Yeah, I guess it makes sense. Didn't he say that 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.079 you had to platinum Tsushima by the end of the 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.100 year? Yeah, yeah. So now I guess it makes sense. 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.860 But for Yota, I would just buy the game, grind 00:07:38.860 --> 00:07:41.439 it, if you're that interested in having the pin. 00:07:41.819 --> 00:07:43.759 Yeah, but you've only got until May. Yeah, but 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.019 that's easy. I've platinumed it in about a week. 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.620 So there are only like 50 -hour games to platinum. 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:52.050 Yeah, but you also, I'd imagine... We wouldn't 00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:53.810 know about it unless Kyle would put it in the 00:07:53.810 --> 00:07:55.529 page. Yeah, yeah. It's only a select through. 00:07:55.589 --> 00:08:00.430 I've never seen anything on this before. Let 00:08:00.430 --> 00:08:04.449 me tell you something. PlayStation. Yeah, to 00:08:04.449 --> 00:08:05.610 be fair, I didn't even look and see if there's 00:08:05.610 --> 00:08:07.550 any other games doing it. PlayStation Platinum 00:08:07.550 --> 00:08:13.750 Pin. Let's have a look. Platinum Pins. Here we 00:08:13.750 --> 00:08:16.920 go. PlayStation have announced physical rewards 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:18.920 for achieving the Platinum. That's for Ghost 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.879 of Tsushima. I wonder if, yeah, maybe this is 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.939 a... What, a one -off from Sucker Punch? Well, 00:08:26.980 --> 00:08:30.139 either a one -off or if it's sanctioned by Sony, 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:33.399 if they then decide for certain games that they're 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:34.600 going to implement. It would make sense, because 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.840 obviously they come out as Sony exclusives, don't 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.200 they? Before, obviously, they eventually go on 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.899 PC. I wonder if they decide that... to do it 00:08:43.899 --> 00:08:48.059 with every future and relatively present Sony 00:08:48.059 --> 00:08:51.039 exclusive. I would love one for Ragnarok, but 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.759 obviously that's probably too far gone now, isn't 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.779 it? Ragnarok would be sick. That's probably my... 00:08:56.779 --> 00:08:59.080 Yeah. No, I wouldn't say my proudest, but my 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.080 favourite platinum out of all of them. Because 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.779 that would... If you was going to do it with 00:09:04.779 --> 00:09:06.480 every game that come on the PlayStation, that'd 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.639 be far too much. There's going to be a lot of 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.019 games where you go, I'm not going to fucking 00:09:10.019 --> 00:09:12.720 waste money on a pin. But I feel like those PlayStation 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.759 exclusives, at least the AAA ones. It means more, 00:09:16.779 --> 00:09:20.340 doesn't it? Yeah. The game you've actually had 00:09:20.340 --> 00:09:24.620 to put effort in to get. Because obviously there's 00:09:24.620 --> 00:09:26.559 a lot of games out there that are piss easy to 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.070 platinum. If you've got a pin for that, it doesn't 00:09:29.070 --> 00:09:30.789 really mean anything, does it? Could you imagine 00:09:30.789 --> 00:09:33.429 if they started releasing like collector's edition, 00:09:33.570 --> 00:09:37.769 let's say God of War hasn't come out and then 00:09:37.769 --> 00:09:39.769 it's due to come out this year and you buy a 00:09:39.769 --> 00:09:41.509 collector's edition for it. Could you imagine 00:09:41.509 --> 00:09:43.169 if they did like a little add -on where it was 00:09:43.169 --> 00:09:46.769 like for an extra 20 quid, you can reserve a 00:09:46.769 --> 00:09:49.269 platinum pin. And then we'll send it out. We'll 00:09:49.269 --> 00:09:51.250 send it out once you've got it. It would be a 00:09:51.250 --> 00:09:52.830 good idea to do something like that. That would 00:09:52.830 --> 00:09:54.129 be quite cool because then at the end of the 00:09:54.129 --> 00:09:55.809 day, if you don't get the platinum, they've still 00:09:55.809 --> 00:09:57.940 got their money. Yeah. But it's an incentive 00:09:57.940 --> 00:10:00.600 for you to actually do it. Yeah, yeah. Because 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:01.600 obviously that's what I'm saying. Now you're 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.539 only doing it for, I guess, the joy of it. Yeah, 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.840 because it was Ash that actually first gave me 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.299 his viewpoint on it of he will platinum a game 00:10:13.299 --> 00:10:19.399 as a sign of respect for... Like the devs. Yeah, 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.299 yeah. I like this game so much that I'm going 00:10:22.299 --> 00:10:25.279 to platinum it, which seems like quite a good... 00:10:26.549 --> 00:10:29.350 Outlook for it. Obviously, people just platinum 00:10:29.350 --> 00:10:31.169 it for the sake of platinum it. We actually spoke 00:10:31.169 --> 00:10:33.470 about platinums when you was last on. Yeah, yeah, 00:10:33.490 --> 00:10:34.950 we covered quite a bit. I think it's just because 00:10:34.950 --> 00:10:39.669 it's niche. For me, anyway. Yeah, I guess. Not 00:10:39.669 --> 00:10:43.269 everyone's cup of tea, obviously. I haven't got 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:46.370 a shitload, but I would like to do more this 00:10:46.370 --> 00:10:50.570 year. What the fuck have you been playing? Everything, 00:10:50.789 --> 00:10:54.730 really. Obviously, I've been playing ARK with 00:10:54.730 --> 00:10:58.899 you and Jay. Won't get into that. No, we will 00:10:58.899 --> 00:11:01.899 for a quick five minutes. The most useless... 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:04.080 I'm not going to slag him off. I said I'd shout 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.440 him out on this. The most useless cunt I've ever 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.360 played with. But you had a fun time. I did have 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.980 a fun time. I had a great time. 10 out of 10 00:11:12.980 --> 00:11:16.019 would do again. 100 % we'll plan tomorrow, won't 00:11:16.019 --> 00:11:18.620 we? Yeah, I can't wait. I fucking love it. He 00:11:18.620 --> 00:11:21.940 is shit though. Sorry, Jay, but I can't get over 00:11:21.940 --> 00:11:25.500 that fight. Three on one, and I've got what? 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.500 What's it called? The Pharaoh. Yeah. The one 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:29.039 -shotter. Yeah, the one -shotter. I'm basically 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:30.879 playing with a sniper against three people, and 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:32.559 this guy's just running around looting. Close 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:36.220 call. And he's got a rifle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.860 Which has left me in the smoke. I've never, I 00:11:38.860 --> 00:11:42.240 have never seen such a poor play, and I feel 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.220 like I have, I'm allowed to have such a high 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:46.460 opinion of it, because I was dead. Yeah, that's 00:11:46.460 --> 00:11:48.039 the funny thing, because obviously I've listened 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.799 to what you said with Ash. Me and Jay couldn't 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.509 hear you at all. Could you not hear me at all, 00:11:53.549 --> 00:11:56.210 though? No, when you die... You go silent. I 00:11:56.210 --> 00:11:58.149 think so. I don't know how it works. Sometimes 00:11:58.149 --> 00:12:00.389 you can hear people and other times you can't. 00:12:00.389 --> 00:12:02.710 I don't really know how it works. I think... 00:12:02.710 --> 00:12:04.429 It might be if you're in proximity chat and you 00:12:04.429 --> 00:12:06.769 die. Maybe it's... You stay in that, I'm not 00:12:06.769 --> 00:12:11.789 too sure. Maybe it's if you die, your voice disappears, 00:12:11.889 --> 00:12:13.769 but once the other person's knocked down, they 00:12:13.769 --> 00:12:17.149 can hear you. Yeah, because you hear me and Jay 00:12:17.149 --> 00:12:20.250 during all of that. The entire thing? Yeah. So 00:12:20.250 --> 00:12:22.809 you can hear me shouting. yeah yeah on there 00:12:22.809 --> 00:12:31.090 yeah voice chat when dead let's have a look because 00:12:31.090 --> 00:12:33.909 i'll be very interested to see in our graders 00:12:33.909 --> 00:12:36.830 voice chat um when dead is often bugged especially 00:12:36.830 --> 00:12:39.269 with proximity chat making you unable to talk 00:12:39.269 --> 00:12:41.330 to teammates yeah but you can try switching your 00:12:41.330 --> 00:12:44.210 audio settings between open mic um slash toggle 00:12:44.210 --> 00:12:46.809 for your party chat to fix it or use discord 00:12:46.809 --> 00:12:49.649 as a workaround so it's a bug proximity chat 00:12:49.649 --> 00:12:51.980 bug Yeah, so the only way around it, I guess, 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:54.100 is just doing a party chat on PlayStation before 00:12:54.100 --> 00:12:57.240 you go in. Yeah. So we can both scream at Jay. 00:12:57.460 --> 00:12:59.659 Dying while using proximity chat often locks 00:12:59.659 --> 00:13:01.940 you out of team chat until the match ends, a 00:13:01.940 --> 00:13:03.919 known issue. So I must have been in proximity 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.779 chat. Yeah, I reckon so. Or is it when you die? 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.360 You were screaming at them people not to kill 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.539 you, so it would make sense. And then you're 00:13:11.539 --> 00:13:13.059 just calling them cunts while they're shooting 00:13:13.059 --> 00:13:18.470 you. I was going livid at Jay. No wonder he weren't 00:13:18.470 --> 00:13:20.789 listening. That made it even worse. He's that 00:13:20.789 --> 00:13:22.850 geezer, isn't he, when you used to play Battle 00:13:22.850 --> 00:13:25.129 Royale? He'd just steam in. You'd say, don't 00:13:25.129 --> 00:13:27.870 start. Start on a team of four. Goals down. Yeah, 00:13:27.929 --> 00:13:29.929 yeah, yeah. He's that geezer, but he's somewhere 00:13:29.929 --> 00:13:32.330 else on the map. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never 00:13:32.330 --> 00:13:37.049 seen anything like it. It was biblical. just 00:13:37.049 --> 00:13:39.929 you fighting for your absolute life and then 00:13:39.929 --> 00:13:41.850 I reckon if I had a rifle I would have done the 00:13:41.850 --> 00:13:44.009 three of them they were shit yeah they were genuinely 00:13:44.009 --> 00:13:46.110 shit because I was watching you and then I swapped 00:13:46.110 --> 00:13:48.929 over to Jay and then I literally just see him 00:13:48.929 --> 00:13:51.330 with his hands in a box and I was like what are 00:13:51.330 --> 00:13:54.009 you doing makes sense now I know that he couldn't 00:13:54.009 --> 00:13:55.629 hear me because I was just shouting at him I 00:13:55.629 --> 00:13:56.549 was like what the fuck are you doing I was like 00:13:56.549 --> 00:13:59.509 go and help him but the thing is this whole time 00:13:59.509 --> 00:14:07.629 I was calling for him I'm changing between proximity 00:14:07.629 --> 00:14:09.929 to have a go at these people and try and talk 00:14:09.929 --> 00:14:12.049 to Jay to tell him to hurry the fuck up. It's 00:14:12.049 --> 00:14:13.929 just the fact that I see him run in and then 00:14:13.929 --> 00:14:16.769 run straight back out and take the longest route 00:14:16.769 --> 00:14:19.330 possible round and then to just watch you die 00:14:19.330 --> 00:14:22.289 and then go I can't see him. Standing right in 00:14:22.289 --> 00:14:24.049 front of you. What do you mean? I literally watched 00:14:24.049 --> 00:14:26.570 Mark's body drop to the floor and then reveal 00:14:26.570 --> 00:14:31.139 the person that shot him behind him. How can 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:32.779 you not? It was just bad from the offset, wasn't 00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:35.320 it? Our very first game together, he got downed 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:40.059 by the arcs. Shot a load of them fucking... What 00:14:40.059 --> 00:14:43.100 are they called? The little ones, weren't it? 00:14:43.419 --> 00:14:46.460 What, the snitches? No, the... Or snitches, whatever 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:50.320 they're called. No, not the... Not the snitches. 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.019 Or the snitches. The fucking... I can't remember. 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:55.580 We haven't played for a few weeks, have we? I 00:14:55.580 --> 00:14:59.840 know. Arc... Because you've got that big bastard 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:03.379 that always gets us. Here we go. We have the... 00:15:03.379 --> 00:15:06.620 You have the snitch, the wasps. That's what it 00:15:06.620 --> 00:15:09.080 is, a wasp. Yeah, what's the one... That one 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:12.120 that takes wherever to kill? Which one? Flying 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.799 or on the floor? No, flying. It always sends 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.139 bombs at me and you. That's a rocketeer. That's 00:15:17.139 --> 00:15:19.340 it, that's the one. Right cunt. That thing is 00:15:19.340 --> 00:15:21.019 a fucking nightmare. I've got a list of them 00:15:21.019 --> 00:15:24.279 here. So we've got the snitch, which is... It's 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.559 got 100 health. Yeah, that's very basic, isn't 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.320 it? It says destroy 100, loot 200. Oh, that's 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.000 XP. Sorry, it doesn't actually give you health. 00:15:32.419 --> 00:15:35.080 Weakness, destroying two of its three thrusters 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.899 will cause it to crash and be destroyed. Wasps, 00:15:37.899 --> 00:15:40.059 destroying two of its four thrusters will cause 00:15:40.059 --> 00:15:43.340 it to crash or quickly use an entire mag into 00:15:43.340 --> 00:15:46.299 its body and it will be destroyed. A hornet, 00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:49.059 which is the one with a little turret on the 00:15:49.059 --> 00:15:51.039 underside of it. Yeah, they're not too bad either. 00:15:51.379 --> 00:15:54.039 Heavy ammo or medium ammo guns are best for destroying 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.629 hornets. Take out. Two of the four thrusters 00:15:56.629 --> 00:16:00.029 on the same side will cause them to crash and 00:16:00.029 --> 00:16:03.850 be destroyed. And we've got the ticks. Single 00:16:03.850 --> 00:16:06.190 shot of most guns will destroy this arc. Then 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.509 the little fucking spider things. The pop. Yeah, 00:16:08.509 --> 00:16:10.669 they're annoying. The pop, the little ball that 00:16:10.669 --> 00:16:13.149 rolls around. Oh, they're fuckers, man. They 00:16:13.149 --> 00:16:15.070 come out of nowhere. And then you've got the 00:16:15.070 --> 00:16:17.950 fireball. This arc will open its armour to attack. 00:16:18.090 --> 00:16:19.309 Yeah, that's fucking annoying and all. Shoot 00:16:19.309 --> 00:16:21.590 those open spots to destroy it. Several shots 00:16:21.590 --> 00:16:23.470 from most weapons will destroy this arc. What 00:16:23.470 --> 00:16:25.970 was that thing that took us out? What was that 00:16:25.970 --> 00:16:27.950 map called? That hard one we jumped on first 00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:33.350 game and got blitzed by it. That was a shredder. 00:16:33.409 --> 00:16:36.490 Yeah. That was a shredder. Take out its thrusters 00:16:36.490 --> 00:16:38.330 with heavy ammo weapons. Yeah, those things take 00:16:38.330 --> 00:16:41.129 a fucking beating. Hide behind cover as it's 00:16:41.129 --> 00:16:45.070 about to attack. Repeat. The thing was on fire 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:46.990 for about two minutes and still took us both 00:16:46.990 --> 00:16:49.470 out. That thing fucked us up. Oh, and this tells 00:16:49.470 --> 00:16:51.190 you what they dropped. So what the fuck is a... 00:16:52.999 --> 00:16:56.519 So you've got a snitch and a spotter. So a spotter 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.200 is the one with the light that shines on you. 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.419 And then a snitch is the one that screams. Yeah, 00:17:03.419 --> 00:17:05.680 very basic, like a drone. And then you've got 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:09.059 the bombardier, which is like one of those crabs. 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:10.779 You've got the bombardier and you've got the 00:17:10.779 --> 00:17:12.380 bastion that look very, very similar. They're 00:17:12.380 --> 00:17:16.299 like the crab things. Weak points, mines can 00:17:16.299 --> 00:17:19.900 be effective. Yeah, you've got the big spider. 00:17:20.619 --> 00:17:23.980 And then you've got the leaper. That is it, isn't 00:17:23.980 --> 00:17:26.420 it? Yeah, the big spider. Which is obviously 00:17:26.420 --> 00:17:28.940 easy to take out, like Jay said. Stun grenades 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:30.900 and hornet drivers are effective at keeping this 00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:33.920 unit from moving around. Focus on its eye and 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.559 mag dump until it is destroyed. And then a rocketeer. 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:40.000 Break line of sight as much as possible. Heavy 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.059 ammo weapons are most effective at its thrusters. 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:46.460 Well, we've done that with pistols. I generally 00:17:46.460 --> 00:17:48.279 don't think I've actually beat one yet. You've 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.619 got the Queen as well. What's that? Big fucking 00:17:52.619 --> 00:17:56.420 spider looking one. Big, big bastard. I don't 00:17:56.420 --> 00:17:58.819 think we've had a fight with one of them. I think 00:17:58.819 --> 00:18:00.480 we've come across one, but we haven't had a fight 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:01.900 with one of them. That actually doesn't... Was 00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:03.960 that the big... You remember when one of our 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.619 first games, that other team took out a shitload 00:18:06.619 --> 00:18:08.359 of stuff and we just kind of stood in the background? 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:14.039 No, that was a... That was either a Bastion or 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.599 a Bombardier. So this is bigger than that. Oh, 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:18.339 brilliant. Yeah, and this doesn't actually say 00:18:18.339 --> 00:18:21.670 what his weak points. And then you've got a matriarch, 00:18:21.890 --> 00:18:25.109 which is even bigger. But I don't know if you 00:18:25.109 --> 00:18:28.529 can actually fight them yet. I don't think a 00:18:28.529 --> 00:18:30.410 queen and a matriarch... A queen I think you 00:18:30.410 --> 00:18:32.690 can fight now. I don't think you can fight a 00:18:32.690 --> 00:18:35.069 matriarch yet. And they're like... Yeah, as I 00:18:35.069 --> 00:18:36.470 said, I definitely haven't seen any on the map. 00:18:36.789 --> 00:18:38.369 That's because they're not on the map. They're 00:18:38.369 --> 00:18:41.549 outside of it. So if you're in a game, every 00:18:41.549 --> 00:18:43.930 now and then if you look outwards, you can see 00:18:43.930 --> 00:18:47.369 these big fucking arcs just walking around. And 00:18:47.369 --> 00:18:50.609 that is a matriarch. Wow. huge fucking things 00:18:50.609 --> 00:18:54.190 and I don't think it's very difficult because 00:18:54.190 --> 00:18:57.890 all of my like Ark Raiders info I was getting 00:18:57.890 --> 00:19:00.029 from Instagram which now I don't have Instagram 00:19:00.029 --> 00:19:03.769 so I don't see anything that's going on anymore 00:19:03.769 --> 00:19:05.750 I literally just have to sit there with Jay while 00:19:05.750 --> 00:19:08.490 he's watching Mr. Peanut burnt peanut fucking 00:19:08.490 --> 00:19:11.150 dying all the time my knowledge is literally 00:19:11.150 --> 00:19:13.029 just from downloading it giving it a go with 00:19:13.029 --> 00:19:15.289 you and that's it I've enjoyed it a hell of a 00:19:15.289 --> 00:19:16.730 lot more than I thought I would I'll be honest 00:19:16.730 --> 00:19:19.049 it's good man It's really good. That proximity 00:19:19.049 --> 00:19:23.170 chat is great. You running around with the flute 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:26.930 and me screaming. And the fuckers trying to shoot 00:19:26.930 --> 00:19:29.950 us and all when I'm giving them a little concert. 00:19:30.990 --> 00:19:34.250 Fuckers. It's been good. Proximity chat's great. 00:19:34.690 --> 00:19:36.690 Doesn't Rocket League have proximity chat now? 00:19:36.809 --> 00:19:39.410 Or have in -game chat? I have not got a clue. 00:19:40.250 --> 00:19:42.450 I'll be honest, I'm not toxic on Rocket League 00:19:42.450 --> 00:19:45.589 anymore. Are you not? No. Gabby's. Every game 00:19:45.589 --> 00:19:49.500 is abusive to everyone. But I've been banned 00:19:49.500 --> 00:19:51.440 on that game so many times I don't do it anymore. 00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:56.660 Voice. It does have voice chat. No one talks 00:19:56.660 --> 00:20:00.559 on it. No one really entertains the abuse in 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.880 the chat anymore. Do they not? No, it's not really 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.299 that sort of game anymore. Everyone's grown up. 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.859 That's upsetting. Yeah. Yeah, it does have... 00:20:07.859 --> 00:20:13.940 It has team chat. So not... I don't think you 00:20:13.940 --> 00:20:18.099 could talk to opposing... Is it... Cross -gen, 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:20.599 though, because a lot of the time we play on 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:22.640 there now, you play with PC players, you don't 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:23.539 come across a lot of PlayStation players. It's 00:20:23.539 --> 00:20:25.960 cross -gen, and the chat also lets you talk with 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.880 teammates across platforms. Yeah, a lot of cross 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.500 -play, because I turn cross -play off in Artgraders. 00:20:35.059 --> 00:20:37.799 I don't even know if I had it on. I think it's 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.619 turned on by default, but the thing is, I know 00:20:41.619 --> 00:20:44.160 that playing on a PlayStation, you get aim assist, 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.539 but playing on a PC is just... Do you reckon 00:20:47.539 --> 00:20:50.339 they're more toxic, though? What, PC players? 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:51.660 Of course they fucking are, because they can 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:53.380 type quicker. Could you imagine us if we could 00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:56.119 type quicker? On old school Rocket League, if 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:58.779 you could type with a keyboard, rather than having 00:20:58.779 --> 00:21:03.019 to... We'd be ruthless. It's bad. You can't say 00:21:03.019 --> 00:21:04.960 nothing on that. There's no loophole to swear 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:09.220 on it anymore. Everything's blocked out. The 00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:11.200 good old days, we would just put a space in between 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.000 and just call everyone cunts. Yeah, you used 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.599 to find every single loophole possible to say 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.940 whatever you wanted in there. In that game. Yeah, 00:21:17.940 --> 00:21:19.880 times have changed. Yeah, PC players are way 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:22.759 more toxic than... Do you think? ...than console 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.960 players. Yeah, I think so. Because they're the 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.619 elite. Well, supposedly. Every country you play 00:21:29.619 --> 00:21:33.099 with is useless, but... I think... I feel like 00:21:33.099 --> 00:21:37.319 if you're going to get a typical sweaty geezer, 00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.740 chances are you're going to find them on PC more 00:21:39.740 --> 00:21:42.579 than console. I think. I'm not saying you're 00:21:42.579 --> 00:21:44.900 not going to get sweaty people on consoles, because 00:21:44.900 --> 00:21:48.619 you do, but... There's some people... I've met 00:21:48.619 --> 00:21:50.619 some people in WoW that are just absolute cunts. 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:55.160 Like proper fucking... Just the most annoying 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:58.500 people ever. I've met way more annoying people 00:21:58.500 --> 00:22:01.740 on PC than I have on console. It's only a PC 00:22:01.740 --> 00:22:03.319 game though, isn't it? That's the difference. 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:05.599 You haven't got a choice but to play it. Yeah, 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:09.480 no, that's true. I wonder what... Is it not meant 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:14.339 to be coming to console? It's... it's rumoured 00:22:14.339 --> 00:22:16.720 so there's nothing set in stone they've got like 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:21.599 they've integrated being able to plug in a controller 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.960 and then do all of your keybinds and make it 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:26.500 work so when Ash played well he played on the 00:22:26.500 --> 00:22:28.099 controller because he couldn't play on mouse 00:22:28.099 --> 00:22:31.519 and keyboard because it hurt his wrist so he 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:35.059 played on controller fuck knows how but he got 00:22:35.059 --> 00:22:37.240 on really well with it I couldn't I've never 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.859 even tried it but I just know that like I was 00:22:39.859 --> 00:22:41.359 saying in our chat earlier I've been playing 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:43.829 this for almost 20 years So I've been doing that 00:22:43.829 --> 00:22:46.130 mouse and keyboard. So I'm not going to switch 00:22:46.130 --> 00:22:50.549 to a controller now. But it works. There's add 00:22:50.549 --> 00:22:52.170 -ons for it as well. But like I say, they've 00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:53.809 integrated it so you don't really need them. 00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:58.109 And then with the next expansion that's coming 00:22:58.109 --> 00:23:01.269 out, so the pre -patch for that is coming out 00:23:01.269 --> 00:23:04.210 in like four days. And alongside that, they've 00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:07.130 like pruned a lot. Basically every class has 00:23:07.130 --> 00:23:10.740 been pruned. So you're talking like... half the 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:13.000 abilities have been taken away and turned into 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.299 like passive abilities so now most characters 00:23:15.299 --> 00:23:19.220 will have like three or four rotational buttons 00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:23.200 and then your big cooldowns are separate buttons 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:24.759 but even then i think you've only got like a 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.900 couple of them so it's all streamlining down 00:23:27.900 --> 00:23:31.200 to being able to play it on a controller effectively 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:34.400 because like eso you can play on console final 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.359 fantasy you can play on consoles there's been 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.420 plenty of mmos that have been brought to console 00:23:38.420 --> 00:23:42.900 and they work pretty damn well so yeah i feel 00:23:42.900 --> 00:23:46.339 like maybe in the next two or three years you'll 00:23:46.339 --> 00:23:49.480 get like a surprise maybe with the next gen that 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:51.400 comes out possibly because you don't because 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.420 you don't you don't need a lot to run Well, in 00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:58.740 comparison to how PCs and consoles are now, you 00:23:58.740 --> 00:24:01.900 can fucking run it on anything. So I don't think 00:24:01.900 --> 00:24:04.000 it's a hardware issue. I think it's just a... 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:09.180 There's no real necessity to do it, but I think 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:12.259 it's a server issue on how you work. So like 00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:18.519 Final Fantasy, I think, is cross -play or cross 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.619 -platform. So everyone can play with everyone. 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.839 I think. could be wrong in that ESO definitely 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.619 isn't so like me and Steph obviously played a 00:24:26.619 --> 00:24:29.680 shitload of Elder Scrolls Online but originally 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.420 had it on console so you had to start fresh so 00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:39.079 nothing carried over so they run on separate 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.619 servers so the console players are completely 00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:43.480 separate from the PC players I don't know if 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:45.240 that's how World of Warcraft would work if they 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.500 were to do it because they've got shitload of 00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:52.539 servers like they call them realms And it gives 00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:54.980 you a population, not an in -depth one, it'll 00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:59.359 just say low, medium, high, full. And they've 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.059 got fucking loads of dead ones. So there's shitloads 00:25:02.059 --> 00:25:03.900 of servers. So I don't see why it would be an 00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:05.559 issue for them to be able to just have everyone 00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:06.960 playing with everyone, but then you've got the 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.039 skill gap of it. It's like the people that are 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.539 on PC with a mouse and keyboard. are going to 00:25:12.539 --> 00:25:15.619 be better yeah don't get me wrong there are people 00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.119 who play on controller and they do like the top 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.319 top tier content and they do it very very well 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.559 but the the bulk of people are not going to be 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.460 able if you're playing against people with a 00:25:27.460 --> 00:25:31.240 controller i think in a pve environment it's 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:35.319 not really that big a deal but on a pvp scale 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:39.880 it's The gap is too big. It's massive, yeah. 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:41.819 I think. I'd like to see it happen. They make 00:25:41.819 --> 00:25:44.359 a fuck ton of money. Well, because they haven't 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:50.380 made enough of it so far. How much does Blizzard 00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:54.700 make? Blizzard make a year from WoW. Let's have 00:25:54.700 --> 00:25:57.990 a look. It's just WoW. Doesn't release specific 00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:00.490 WoW revenue, but it's a huge earner with estimates 00:26:00.490 --> 00:26:03.309 suggesting hundreds of millions annually from 00:26:03.309 --> 00:26:05.230 subscriptions, expansions, and in -game purchases, 00:26:05.410 --> 00:26:09.190 potentially exceeding $30 million monthly just 00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:11.789 from subscriptions. Monthly, Jesus. Just from 00:26:11.789 --> 00:26:15.809 subscriptions. What do you pay them? What, like 00:26:15.809 --> 00:26:18.549 every month? Yeah, you pay a tenner a month. 00:26:18.589 --> 00:26:21.589 So you pay a tenner a month, or I do a yearly 00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.029 subscription, I think. I think, no, I don't. 00:26:24.029 --> 00:26:26.329 No, I do a monthly one now. But a yearly one 00:26:26.329 --> 00:26:29.970 is like 60 quid, something like that. That's 00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:32.930 not bad. It's not bad. Or is it more? It might 00:26:32.930 --> 00:26:36.089 be more now. It's definitely more value to pay 00:26:36.089 --> 00:26:40.650 for the year. But that's just a subscription. 00:26:41.609 --> 00:26:44.750 So the way it works now is if you were to buy 00:26:44.750 --> 00:26:46.869 an expansion, you have access to all the other 00:26:46.869 --> 00:26:50.390 previous expansions, blah, blah, blah. But it's 00:26:50.390 --> 00:26:53.789 the in -game store with the mounts and shit. 00:26:54.430 --> 00:26:56.670 is where they make a load of money because they 00:26:56.670 --> 00:26:59.329 did a mount that had an auction house on it um 00:26:59.329 --> 00:27:03.849 which in a previous expansion they had one and 00:27:03.849 --> 00:27:06.250 you'd need basically like the gold cap to buy 00:27:06.250 --> 00:27:09.069 it so only like the the richest of the rich would 00:27:09.069 --> 00:27:10.890 have access to it and then after the expansion 00:27:10.890 --> 00:27:13.430 was gone for a little period of time that mount 00:27:13.430 --> 00:27:15.390 was gone you couldn't have it this is the one 00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:18.519 you got before way back when I haven't got it 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:20.619 no you didn't no I never got it I remember you 00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:22.079 talking about the one that was a lot of money 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.640 yeah I never got it and then they released it 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.059 to the masses yeah they re -released it under 00:27:27.059 --> 00:27:30.940 like same thing but different skin on the store 00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:34.660 for I think it was was it 60 quid or was it 90 00:27:34.660 --> 00:27:37.619 quid one of those two either way it was a lot 00:27:37.619 --> 00:27:38.980 of money yeah I remember you saying it was a 00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:41.460 chunk and every fucker bought one so I was like 00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:43.240 well everyone's got one I'm not going to buy 00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.309 one because I'm just going to use theirs And 00:27:46.309 --> 00:27:51.309 how much did they make? How much did WoW make 00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:56.990 from the Brutoshaw? It was called the Brutoshaw. 00:27:58.349 --> 00:28:02.210 It was loads. It was loads and loads. Likely 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:06.019 earned. Traders gilded Brutal Seal with estimates 00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:10.079 suggesting figures between $15 million to $20 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.380 million or potentially more based on community 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:16.200 data shown. Nearly 20 % of tracked whale accounts 00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:20.220 purchased the $90 amount. Just for one item. 00:28:20.380 --> 00:28:23.680 Or it's equivalent in gold slash blizzard balance. 00:28:23.779 --> 00:28:27.500 So you can buy like tokens. So you can use in 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:31.690 -game gold to buy a token. that puts money onto 00:28:31.690 --> 00:28:35.210 your blizzard account and you can buy a um you 00:28:35.210 --> 00:28:37.349 can buy time with it so like a subscription so 00:28:37.349 --> 00:28:38.670 there are plenty of people where they'll play 00:28:38.670 --> 00:28:40.710 the entire game for free because they're earning 00:28:40.710 --> 00:28:43.250 enough gold in game to be able to do it but you 00:28:43.250 --> 00:28:45.069 can also do it the other way around as well so 00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:48.809 you can buy those game time tokens and then sell 00:28:48.809 --> 00:28:51.890 them in the game and that's how you can buy gold 00:28:51.890 --> 00:28:54.769 um i've done that many times of course you have 00:28:54.769 --> 00:29:00.059 um it's just easy uh but yeah So nine months 00:29:00.059 --> 00:29:03.940 ago, 18 .38 % of accounts own the auction house 00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:08.099 store mount, which is around, yeah, 20 million 00:29:08.099 --> 00:29:10.819 US dollars. So that's just from one fucking mount. 00:29:10.940 --> 00:29:14.700 Just one. There's like between like 20 and 30 00:29:14.700 --> 00:29:17.619 different things in that store that people can 00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:19.880 buy, and most people do. Yeah, so they're not 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.819 struggling. No. No, they're not struggling at 00:29:22.819 --> 00:29:25.920 all. Money's not a fucking issue for them at 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.259 all. And that's just from one game. You think 00:29:29.259 --> 00:29:31.539 they make Diablo? They've got Call of Duty now. 00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:33.980 Oh, they've got Call of Duty over there? Yeah. 00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:36.880 Fucking sucks for them, doesn't it? If I open 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.619 it up, so you've got WoW, Diablo, Overwatch, 00:29:39.940 --> 00:29:44.799 Hearthstone, Diablo Immortal, StarCraft, Warcraft 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.000 Rumble. They don't own Call of Duty, but obviously 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.500 they're all owned by the same fucking people. 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:56.940 So it's in their launcher. It's just... astronomical 00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:59.259 the amount of money they make I think it's the 00:29:59.259 --> 00:30:03.579 reason why they're the top earners but it like 00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:06.359 it's unfathomable you think what was that that 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:11.059 was 30 million dollars a month just from subscriptions 00:30:11.059 --> 00:30:18.880 yeah a month 30 million 360 a year just for signing 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.380 up to the game not even playing it just having 00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:29.759 a go I wonder if you can find since release. 00:30:29.940 --> 00:30:32.119 I wonder if there's a guesstimate of how much 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.500 they've made since that came out. So while exact 00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:39.440 cumulative figures aren't public, World of Warcraft 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.380 has generated billions for Blizzard, estimated 00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:48.819 at over $9 billion up to 2017. So it's just another 00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:52.539 almost decade on top of that. So it's probably 00:30:52.539 --> 00:30:59.220 doubled that easy. By 2017, WOW had already grossed 00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:03.299 an estimated $9 .23 billion in revenue. Annual 00:31:03.299 --> 00:31:06.700 earnings suggest potentially there's such a large 00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:10.019 gap. Reports suggest WOW generates tens of millions 00:31:10.019 --> 00:31:14.539 in monthly revenue, potentially $156 to $564 00:31:14.539 --> 00:31:19.039 million annually as of 2021. That's such a big 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.259 gap. It's mad, isn't it? You know it's at least 00:31:22.259 --> 00:31:24.339 360 if they're getting that just from the descriptions. 00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:26.559 The broader Warcraft franchise, including strategy 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.259 games and the film, grossed around $15 billion 00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:32.619 by 2017, with WoW being a massive contributor. 00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:38.339 Like, it's mad. Serious, serious money. From 00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:42.759 just a... Well, it's not even a random game. 00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:46.579 The lore of it. It's so mad. We were talking 00:31:46.579 --> 00:31:48.980 earlier with graphic novels, the amount of books 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:50.980 that you've got surrounding that. But then when 00:31:50.980 --> 00:31:54.420 you delve into other games, that was just from 00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:57.559 a quick search find in that Hitman series and 00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.980 the God of War one. There's loads. There's loads 00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:02.660 of stuff. I think I've done an episode on this 00:32:02.660 --> 00:32:04.759 before talking about graphic novels. Yeah, you 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:06.099 did something with Connor, I think, didn't you? 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.220 Yeah, they're really cool. Really, really cool. 00:32:08.460 --> 00:32:11.740 I've never looked into it. Even just the artwork 00:32:11.740 --> 00:32:16.319 of... Graphic novels. I know you said God of 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.960 War or Hitman. Throw another game and then we'll 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.259 see. Well, you said about the cyberpunk ones, 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.079 didn't you? Cyberpunk ones are cool, man. They're 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.759 really cool. I don't know how many cyberpunk 00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.579 graphic novels. I don't know how many there are. 00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:34.539 I think I've got most of them. Cyberpunk graphic 00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:38.180 novels. Let's see if there's a list. That's not 00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:41.160 a fucking list. I think there's maybe like 10. 00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:46.220 What's that? One. Two, three, four. Because they 00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:48.279 do it in volumes and then they do it in numbers. 00:32:48.740 --> 00:32:51.359 There's loads and then there's spin -offs. But 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.599 Cyberpunk is... I think Cyberpunk was the first... 00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.000 Was it the first ones I read? I think. I think 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.839 so. There was a load of World of Warcraft ones 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.319 that I read. There was a couple of Bloodborne 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.099 ones that I read and they were quite cool. Can 00:33:07.099 --> 00:33:09.940 you get into some ones called Berserker or something 00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:12.809 like that? Yeah, Berserker was really good. I 00:33:12.809 --> 00:33:14.049 think that's what you started out with, wasn't 00:33:14.049 --> 00:33:18.750 it? I think Daryl started reading them. Berserker. 00:33:18.869 --> 00:33:23.970 Because they are written by Keanu Reeves. Oh, 00:33:23.990 --> 00:33:27.549 really? Mm -hmm. I think that's why Daryl got 00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:33.170 into them. Berserker. It's spelled B -R -Z -R 00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:37.970 -K -R. And I've read the first volume. And then 00:33:37.970 --> 00:33:43.119 I think... I want to say there's maybe like 12 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.740 or something. Comic series created by Keanu Reeves, 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:51.779 Matt Kind, Ron Garney and Bill Crabtree offers 00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:54.839 an engaging start to the Berserker series storyline. 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.819 While I wasn't enthralled by the first volume, 00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:01.180 I still came across some very interesting moments. 00:34:01.259 --> 00:34:04.339 I'll give Berserker a rating score of 7 out of 00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:06.680 10. Who was that from? Greek God's Paradise. 00:34:08.909 --> 00:34:13.989 How many volumes does that have? Volumes. But 00:34:13.989 --> 00:34:16.030 I'll probably look into getting the rest of them. 00:34:16.110 --> 00:34:18.369 Because the thing I like about them is... You 00:34:18.369 --> 00:34:21.949 read quite a bit, don't you? I did. I've gone 00:34:21.949 --> 00:34:23.789 off it again. Are you a fast reader, though? 00:34:25.510 --> 00:34:28.030 Fairly. I'd say normal. Yeah. See, I think I'm 00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:31.090 quite a slow reader. I'm not a shit reader. You 00:34:31.090 --> 00:34:34.309 take it in more. Yeah. It takes more for you 00:34:34.309 --> 00:34:37.170 to take in what's going on. I think. I think 00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:39.429 I take it in, but what I do is I find myself, 00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:43.269 if I read a chapter, I start to find myself not 00:34:43.269 --> 00:34:46.090 getting bored, but almost like I want to do something 00:34:46.090 --> 00:34:51.750 else. What do you mean? In that like, so like 00:34:51.750 --> 00:34:53.690 the book that I'm reading at the moment, The 00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.750 Lich King. So I know a lot of the lore already, 00:34:56.849 --> 00:35:00.690 but it's really interesting to read about it 00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:04.480 rather than just play about, like play it. So 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.199 I'm about halfway through it and I've had the 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.900 book for fucking ages. But I'll find myself reading 00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:15.880 a chapter and then trying to like debate with 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.900 myself as to whether or not I want to read another 00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:20.340 chapter if I can be bothered. But I'm enjoying 00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:23.099 the book at the same time. Yeah. It's really 00:35:23.099 --> 00:35:25.860 weird. Yeah, that's what I used to do with, because 00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.099 the last book I read was the David Goggins one, 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.139 which is obviously what you've got now. Yeah, 00:35:30.139 --> 00:35:31.199 yeah. You can start reading soon. That's what 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.300 I used to do. a chapter so i would say a day 00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:37.679 but then it it went to a chapter a week or whatever 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.500 because i've kind of lost interest in reading 00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:41.960 but yeah i'd always sit and make myself read 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.519 a chapter yeah yeah yeah and after that you kind 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.219 of decide whether you want to continue with it's 00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:48.579 exactly what i do yeah i go i'll at least get 00:35:48.579 --> 00:35:51.179 a chapter done yeah and then if it's like at 00:35:51.179 --> 00:35:53.579 a pivotal point sometimes i carry on and read 00:35:53.579 --> 00:35:56.119 another chapter and another chapter um but yeah 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.239 sometimes i i can sit there three four hours 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.889 and read other times 20 minutes and I think that's 00:36:01.889 --> 00:36:04.409 enough for me. Yeah, yeah. I think you've just 00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:07.070 got to be in the right mood for it. Yeah, I think 00:36:07.070 --> 00:36:10.949 it's... I think it's helping not being on social 00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:14.650 media. Oh, 100%. So, like, there was... There 00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:17.349 was a whole fucking... I watched all of the cinematics 00:36:17.349 --> 00:36:19.829 for World of Warcraft and it was four hours long. 00:36:20.050 --> 00:36:21.909 Yeah. And I watched the entire thing over, like, 00:36:21.909 --> 00:36:25.030 two days. And I watched it, not, like, just put 00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:26.829 it on in the background. I fucking watched it. 00:36:27.449 --> 00:36:30.380 And... from that point that just got me a little 00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:32.820 bit more amped up to read some more books about 00:36:32.820 --> 00:36:37.980 wow um but yeah definitely not sitting on your 00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:42.320 phone um endlessly scrolling it just gives you 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.019 more of an attention span to be able to do those 00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:46.820 kind of things which is ironic having a conversation 00:36:46.820 --> 00:36:48.719 where i've just said i can only read one chapter 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.590 and then i need to do something else yeah but 00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:55.030 I used to do the same I'll admit it I'll read 00:36:55.030 --> 00:36:57.170 a chapter and I'll say why are you debating to 00:36:57.170 --> 00:36:58.750 read another one you're sitting there scrolling 00:36:58.750 --> 00:37:01.449 yeah and then it draws you away and you think 00:37:01.449 --> 00:37:04.369 yeah can I be fucking bothered now yeah that 00:37:04.369 --> 00:37:06.329 was the worst one I used to do that all the fucking 00:37:06.329 --> 00:37:09.030 time yeah stop halfway through a chapter I think 00:37:09.030 --> 00:37:10.570 you're safe to say you were probably a lot worse 00:37:10.570 --> 00:37:13.920 with it than me 100 % but i i understand what 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.480 you mean you you do something and then it's like 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.179 well we'll scroll for a bit and then i'll go 00:37:18.179 --> 00:37:20.500 back to it and then you never do yeah never never 00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:22.280 do because it was me and steph were obviously 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.760 talking about screen time and stuff and that's 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.440 what that's what started the the getting rid 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.000 of social media and i was chatting to my mate 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.280 rosie um about it because she was like i've messaged 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.300 you on instagram like where have you been i said 00:37:34.300 --> 00:37:38.130 oh shit sorry like i've deleted it um I then 00:37:38.130 --> 00:37:39.550 explained it to her and she was like, oh, fucking 00:37:39.550 --> 00:37:41.630 hell. She's like, yeah, no, I really want to 00:37:41.630 --> 00:37:45.570 as well. And I was like, well, just do it. And 00:37:45.570 --> 00:37:47.929 she was like, oh, my boyfriend Cam was chatting 00:37:47.929 --> 00:37:50.610 to me about it. And what was he calling her? 00:37:51.610 --> 00:37:54.389 Doomscroll Rosie. Some shit like that. Because 00:37:54.389 --> 00:37:56.449 she was saying, she was like, I'm spending like 00:37:56.449 --> 00:37:59.510 six, seven hours a day on my phone. Fucking hell, 00:37:59.550 --> 00:38:01.289 man. I was like, shit. I was like, there were 00:38:01.289 --> 00:38:03.789 some days where I was near that. But I think 00:38:03.789 --> 00:38:05.929 like the general was between like four and five 00:38:05.929 --> 00:38:09.769 hours a day. And then she was talking about her 00:38:09.769 --> 00:38:13.130 sister because she was like, my dad pulled me 00:38:13.130 --> 00:38:16.389 and my sister because he found out how big my 00:38:16.389 --> 00:38:18.969 screen time was and then wanted to see Mia's 00:38:18.969 --> 00:38:23.670 screen time. 11 hours her sister sits on her 00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:28.349 phone a day. 11 hours. How do you do that? I 00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:29.989 mean, us in a group chat is probably not far 00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:33.909 from that. Back in the day, that used to take 00:38:33.909 --> 00:38:41.000 up an evening. At one Saturday. Oh, don't. We'll 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:46.360 never bring that back. Shout out, Roman. 11 hours 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.539 is mad. Yeah, that's too much. 11 hours on your 00:38:49.539 --> 00:38:53.480 phone. That's just like brain mushy. Well, that's 00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.260 just literally from the moment you get up, isn't 00:38:56.260 --> 00:38:58.539 it, really? Wake up and scroll. Yeah. Wake up 00:38:58.539 --> 00:39:00.679 and scroll. Which I'm assuming you used to do 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.369 as well. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd 00:39:04.369 --> 00:39:07.190 like, I'd wake up and if I was brushing my teeth 00:39:07.190 --> 00:39:09.550 like four, fucking half four in the morning, 00:39:09.570 --> 00:39:12.590 I'm scrolling on my phone and then come downstairs 00:39:12.590 --> 00:39:14.110 while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil, I'm 00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:16.489 scrolling on my phone, get to work, like sit 00:39:16.489 --> 00:39:18.349 in the yard waiting for everyone to turn up, 00:39:18.369 --> 00:39:20.449 scrolling on your phone. I still, do you still 00:39:20.449 --> 00:39:23.449 do it as well? Because I, like, like I say, I 00:39:23.449 --> 00:39:25.090 said it to you boys the other day, what do you 00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:27.849 do when you're having a shit? I instantly pull 00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:31.130 out my phone to scroll. I still do it. I've been 00:39:31.130 --> 00:39:33.730 off social media, what, a week? yeah I pull out 00:39:33.730 --> 00:39:37.889 so sometimes I just don't go on my phone and 00:39:37.889 --> 00:39:40.070 then which I find alien because I remember being 00:39:40.070 --> 00:39:41.969 a kid and you'd read like the back of a bottle 00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:46.050 of bleach yeah or like a book or any just looking 00:39:46.050 --> 00:39:48.110 around the room for stuff anything that was by 00:39:48.110 --> 00:39:50.110 the toilet that had text on it you'd read it 00:39:50.110 --> 00:39:51.769 like an ancient scroll while you're banging out 00:39:51.769 --> 00:39:55.949 a dirty one I've just got a habit of texting 00:39:55.949 --> 00:40:01.630 you when I'm having a shit night it works are 00:40:01.630 --> 00:40:05.469 you shitting yeah I'm shitting too nice yeah 00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:07.570 sometimes I just won't look at anything and then 00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:11.690 other times I'll just open up YouTube because 00:40:11.690 --> 00:40:14.309 I've usually always got a video that I'm like 00:40:14.309 --> 00:40:17.869 halfway through yeah but even that even YouTube 00:40:17.869 --> 00:40:19.510 is a fucker because you've got YouTube shorts 00:40:19.510 --> 00:40:22.789 but when you open up YouTube the shorts are right 00:40:22.789 --> 00:40:24.730 there when you scroll down like you scroll down 00:40:24.730 --> 00:40:26.969 a tiny bit I'm pretty sure if I do it now and 00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:30.760 it's just annoying because they They look like 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.940 the videos. Yeah. But they also tailor it to 00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:36.500 what you're watching as well. So there's a streamer 00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:40.159 that I'm watching called Zaru for WoW. He's a 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.840 very cool guy. So I just watch a lot of his live 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:44.320 streams and a lot of his clips and stuff like 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.219 that. So now whenever I open YouTube... I've 00:40:47.219 --> 00:40:50.179 got one of his videos open now. But YouTube video, 00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:53.380 straight, shorts. Shorts. Just a fat man in the 00:40:53.380 --> 00:40:56.760 games with a six -pack. Yeah. Football. And then... 00:40:57.530 --> 00:40:59.670 Something else I noticed, they do games on YouTube 00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:02.469 now as well. Really? Of course they do. I didn't 00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:06.530 notice that. I played that whole .io one for 00:41:06.530 --> 00:41:09.269 a good couple of hours and then I was like, no, 00:41:09.349 --> 00:41:11.230 this isn't... Steph pointed out, she was like, 00:41:11.289 --> 00:41:13.389 it's no different to just scrolling because that 00:41:13.389 --> 00:41:16.690 is just mind -numbing games. Yeah, I guess. At 00:41:16.690 --> 00:41:18.289 least you're gaming though. I was like, yeah, 00:41:18.309 --> 00:41:20.510 no, maybe. I can just say I'm not interested. 00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:23.550 I didn't realise I could do that. But yeah, they... 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.320 More fucking shorts. I wish there was a way for 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.280 me more games. I just said I'm not interested. 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.860 Yeah. Well, try again five scrolls later, won't 00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:37.500 you? Yeah, that's what I do. But it's the watching 00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:43.440 YouTube. I'm taking it in and actually understanding 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.800 what I'm watching. Yeah, it's not just background 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.190 noise. Yeah, which is... It's just weird that 00:41:49.190 --> 00:41:50.469 you have to sit here and have a conversation 00:41:50.469 --> 00:41:52.570 about it like it's a fucking big thing. Like 00:41:52.570 --> 00:41:57.110 it's a fucking AA meeting. Yeah. Look how proud 00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:58.909 I am of myself that I'm not just fucking sitting 00:41:58.909 --> 00:42:00.510 here scrolling on my phone. Yeah, I've done a 00:42:00.510 --> 00:42:02.190 week without it. I'm fucking better than you. 00:42:05.090 --> 00:42:08.090 Yeah, pretty much. It's bad. It's really bad. 00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:11.869 It was probably a good time, to be fair, to crack 00:42:11.869 --> 00:42:14.369 open the Steam Deck again. Crack open the tin 00:42:14.369 --> 00:42:16.619 it. crack open the tinnies and snort the lines. 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:18.800 But the Steam Deck would probably be a good shout 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:23.019 -out because I genuinely feel like that was possibly 00:42:23.019 --> 00:42:27.699 one of the diminishing factors to me not playing 00:42:27.699 --> 00:42:29.920 the Steam Deck so much was because I was just 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.840 addicted to my phone. You're probably not wrong 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.780 because obviously going back to not the company 00:42:35.780 --> 00:42:38.179 I've just left but the one before when you first 00:42:38.179 --> 00:42:39.920 got your Steam Deck. Do you remember you used 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.139 to bring it on site? Yeah. And we used to just 00:42:42.139 --> 00:42:45.289 sit on site and sometimes play it. Yeah. phone 00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:47.110 to go away and the steam dip will come out for 00:42:47.110 --> 00:42:48.750 an hour or two yeah yeah because you're playing 00:42:48.750 --> 00:42:51.630 with that and i i feel like even then like when 00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:54.690 i towards the end of me not playing it i would 00:42:54.690 --> 00:42:57.510 find that i would stop like reading the books 00:42:57.510 --> 00:43:00.030 and just scroll yeah it's like but you've got 00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:03.269 you've got a game in front of you if that's not 00:43:03.269 --> 00:43:05.389 fulfilling enough on your brain then there's 00:43:05.389 --> 00:43:07.829 there's something wrong but that is what that 00:43:07.829 --> 00:43:11.489 short format fucking instant dopamine hit constantly 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:15.190 you say that obviously it is just short clips 00:43:15.190 --> 00:43:18.010 but like you say you lose two three hours it's 00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:19.550 not like you just sit there for five minutes 00:43:19.550 --> 00:43:21.849 yeah and then you come away from it and play 00:43:21.849 --> 00:43:23.409 your game or whatever again you've just wasted 00:43:23.409 --> 00:43:25.750 three hours yeah but that's the thing though 00:43:25.750 --> 00:43:27.690 is that you've been endlessly hit with a dopamine 00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:29.590 hit yeah so you're just constantly scrolling 00:43:29.590 --> 00:43:31.489 through trying to find the fucking random videos 00:43:31.489 --> 00:43:34.510 i mean don't get me wrong i miss the the the 00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:37.510 ai fat people shitting on themselves i miss that 00:43:38.710 --> 00:43:43.429 I do miss the odd funny video. I won't lie. It's 00:43:43.429 --> 00:43:47.130 funny. But we have to make do somewhere else. 00:43:47.269 --> 00:43:49.650 I have to hope I see someone fall over in London. 00:43:50.429 --> 00:43:55.230 We know you have. You think about the woman face 00:43:55.230 --> 00:44:02.750 -fighting and all. I think I'm quite a nice, 00:44:02.750 --> 00:44:06.469 empathetic person. you're wondering what we're 00:44:06.469 --> 00:44:10.949 laughing at it was i was driving um to acton 00:44:10.949 --> 00:44:14.610 and the road that i was on it had i don't know 00:44:14.610 --> 00:44:17.090 why it was there because it's so stupid in hindsight 00:44:17.090 --> 00:44:20.469 but it had like a bicycle lane over the road 00:44:20.469 --> 00:44:23.989 but it was made out of cobblestones so why would 00:44:23.989 --> 00:44:25.730 you make a bicycle lane made out of cobblestones 00:44:25.730 --> 00:44:27.949 that's just a recipe for disaster and exactly 00:44:27.949 --> 00:44:30.670 what happened was a woman was riding down on 00:44:30.670 --> 00:44:35.010 a bike and um like one of them normal like bikes 00:44:35.010 --> 00:44:36.929 with the baskets on them and shit like not not 00:44:36.929 --> 00:44:39.230 a boris bike but just like a normal bike yeah 00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:44.050 and all i heard was was the ring of the bell 00:44:44.050 --> 00:44:47.050 on the bike and i looked over and she'd locked 00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:50.329 the front wheel up and then face plant just skidding 00:44:50.329 --> 00:44:52.750 down these cobblestones and i was just laughing 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.179 He just carried on driving. I didn't feel terrible 00:44:59.179 --> 00:45:01.840 at the time and I kind of still don't because 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:03.940 it was funny. The same thing happened the other 00:45:03.940 --> 00:45:08.880 day, funny enough. My newspeak was driving me 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.639 to the station to where I go and he just went, 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.679 he goes, I felt bad this morning. It was an old 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.559 woman crossing the road there and she fell over. 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:19.119 I was like, did you get out and help? He goes, 00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:21.039 no, I just carried on driving but I felt bad 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.519 for her. it's like it's like when i was driving 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.920 a site years ago and it was like fucking like 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.320 four in the morning or some shit because i well 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.739 i used to work in west london but i used to drive 00:45:32.739 --> 00:45:35.360 to west london in my own car every day so to 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.719 beat the traffic i was like fuck it i'll just 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.019 leave earlier for work beat the traffic get the 00:45:41.019 --> 00:45:42.780 site and then go back to sleep which is what 00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:45.940 i used to do for fucking ages i will never forget 00:45:45.940 --> 00:45:49.000 yeah about four in the morning or something And 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.519 then I come to a T -junction and then just seeing 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.679 some geezer fly over the speed bump on a moped 00:45:54.679 --> 00:46:00.079 and fully Superman and then just disappear. I 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.139 was like, what the fuck? And I drove onto the 00:46:03.139 --> 00:46:05.659 T -junction and then just looked and just see 00:46:05.659 --> 00:46:08.320 him on the floor, but then see him get up. So 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.000 I just carried on driving because I wanted to 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:15.300 go to site and go to sleep. he obviously didn't 00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:19.960 see the speed bump he just went flying just ET 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.360 style just over the fucking speed bump 4 in the 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.940 morning I'm not getting out and helping I'm going 00:46:27.940 --> 00:46:30.920 to sleep I was like 10 minutes from site I was 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:32.900 like I ain't doing that felt like one of those 00:46:32.900 --> 00:46:34.199 ones where if you get out and help you're going 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:35.699 to be there for a couple of hours I was like 00:46:35.699 --> 00:46:40.099 no that's not me let someone let someone else 00:46:40.099 --> 00:46:45.809 deal with that I love London. Brutal, innit? 00:46:47.230 --> 00:46:52.070 What have we got? In standard... With the Deluxe 00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:54.429 series... This is back to the Berserker. Oh, 00:46:54.469 --> 00:46:56.050 we're actually getting back on topic now. I don't 00:46:56.050 --> 00:47:00.050 know how we got so off topic. Collecting three 00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:03.789 standard volumes per book in a hardcover format. 00:47:03.869 --> 00:47:07.869 Currently up to Deluxe volume 14. Covering up 00:47:07.869 --> 00:47:12.480 to... Standard volume 42. I don't understand 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.360 that at all. These are the original single volume 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:23.820 releases with over 40 volumes published. Deluxe 00:47:23.820 --> 00:47:28.400 volume 1 to 14 cover up to... Why is it sounding 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.860 like fucking... Sounding very complicated. Yeah. 00:47:32.579 --> 00:47:37.360 Deluxe volume 1 to 4 cover... up to standard 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.460 volume 42 and the official guidebook. Volume 00:47:40.460 --> 00:47:45.139 14 includes volumes 40, 41 and the official guidebook. 00:47:46.099 --> 00:47:51.280 What? So the standard volumes... It has 12 issues. 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:57.340 Yeah. But there's like 42 books. So many in each 00:47:57.340 --> 00:48:02.940 volume, I guess. But I don't understand. What's 00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:04.559 the difference between a volume and an issue? 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:08.639 There's probably so many issues in a volume. 00:48:09.059 --> 00:48:12.760 Yeah, certain volumes in an issue, maybe. So 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:18.739 there must be 12 books with up to 40 volumes 00:48:18.739 --> 00:48:22.000 within those 12 books. I'm guessing that's how 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.239 it is. There's a lot of books. Yeah, a lot of 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:31.139 books. And you've read like one. Yeah. Well, 00:48:31.739 --> 00:48:35.900 I don't know. This is volume one. so how many 00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:40.599 there's 144 pages so is that there's volume 2 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.360 volume 3 so what's an issue then I don't know 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.920 you've fucking lost me on this either way get 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.420 some get some graphic novels because they're 00:48:52.420 --> 00:48:54.960 fun yeah I'm going to start getting into some 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.559 lore games because I've gamed for well since 00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.920 as far as I can remember but I've never been 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:03.559 into lore Yeah, so the only comparison that I've 00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.199 got for it is something like WoW. And I can say 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.139 that it definitely makes the game richer because 00:49:11.139 --> 00:49:15.659 you understand it's like there's shitloads of 00:49:15.659 --> 00:49:19.239 dungeons that you do where you don't particularly 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.699 know why you're there or what you're doing. And 00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:24.380 then when you read specific books surrounding 00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:29.699 various parts of lore, That's when you start 00:49:29.699 --> 00:49:31.360 to realise that some of these dungeons go, oh, 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:36.119 fuck. I know what the... what the genesis was 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.239 to me being here in this dungeon and I know what 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.639 this dungeon's about because I've read an entire 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.400 book about it. I know why this character's doing 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.420 this. I know why this has happened. Would you 00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:47.900 ever recommend reading before playing? Or would 00:49:47.900 --> 00:49:50.760 you always go play it and then understand after? 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:57.360 I think... I think you'd have both benefits. 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.599 I feel like if you were... I feel like you could 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.480 play the game and get an initial interest in 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.559 a franchise and then go, I want to know more 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.699 about the lore of this. And then go reading the 00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:13.739 books because it helps you either way. But at 00:50:13.739 --> 00:50:18.159 the same time, if you read all the lore of a 00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:22.880 franchise via book format and then... play the 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.260 game i reckon like if you was to read all of 00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:26.940 the lore books surrounding world of warcraft 00:50:26.940 --> 00:50:30.300 and then start playing world of warcraft it's 00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:31.900 gonna it's not gonna make you play any better 00:50:31.900 --> 00:50:34.460 but it's gonna make you understand the game a 00:50:34.460 --> 00:50:38.179 lot more going in but it's not a necessity it's 00:50:38.179 --> 00:50:40.920 more like just an add -on so i feel like either 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.079 way it works pretty well yeah it's like reading 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.340 a book and then watching a film yeah yeah it 00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:49.940 just makes it more more engaging i don't know 00:50:49.940 --> 00:50:52.260 what the I don't know if the God of War one that 00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:56.099 I sent you is... I don't know if that was lore 00:50:56.099 --> 00:50:59.179 -based or if it was just a novelisation of the 00:50:59.179 --> 00:51:02.119 actual game itself. So, like, if you get it, 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.380 read it. Yeah, it didn't really give you much, 00:51:03.460 --> 00:51:05.139 did it? It just showed the cover, which was obviously 00:51:05.139 --> 00:51:07.099 the same cover as the game. Yeah, so you think... 00:51:07.099 --> 00:51:09.159 So it might have just been the game made into 00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.739 a book. Yeah, am I just going to read the storyline 00:51:11.739 --> 00:51:14.380 of the game that I've got a platinum for? Is 00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:17.380 there any point? There are... I haven't actually 00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:19.300 platinumed that one. Have you not? I thought 00:51:19.300 --> 00:51:21.550 you had. Nah, the 2018 one, I was going to go 00:51:21.550 --> 00:51:27.530 back and do it. There were comics for it, but 00:51:27.530 --> 00:51:33.110 they have been discontinued. So I'd imagine you 00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:40.650 can buy them. But they're the comics. What is 00:51:40.650 --> 00:51:44.889 the Amazon graphic? Was that the novelisation 00:51:44.889 --> 00:51:47.309 of it? God of War takes on the world of Norse 00:51:47.309 --> 00:51:51.130 gods. Starting with a cult of bear berserkers. 00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:56.510 Well, that's not that then. But that is on Amazon 00:51:56.510 --> 00:52:01.329 for... Fuck it, do you have a Kindle? No. I was 00:52:01.329 --> 00:52:03.909 going to get one, but... Yeah, see, everything's 00:52:03.909 --> 00:52:06.110 on Kindle now. There's a lot... That's the problem 00:52:06.110 --> 00:52:09.769 with a lot of these law books for gaming. A lot 00:52:09.769 --> 00:52:11.329 of them are available on Kindle, but they're 00:52:11.329 --> 00:52:13.309 not available on paperback. That's why I was 00:52:13.309 --> 00:52:15.289 saying to you, a lot of the stuff that I bought 00:52:15.289 --> 00:52:17.630 was on Vinted and eBay. because they've already 00:52:17.630 --> 00:52:20.829 been discontinued so you have to get them elsewhere 00:52:20.829 --> 00:52:25.710 but it looks like they're oh God of War Volume 00:52:25.710 --> 00:52:29.250 2 Fallen God God of War 2 yeah they've got their 00:52:29.250 --> 00:52:32.250 own books I just don't know if that novelisation 00:52:32.250 --> 00:52:37.590 one I sent you was the thingy but yeah we'll 00:52:37.590 --> 00:52:40.949 wrap it there fuck it I've had their time see 00:52:40.949 --> 00:52:41.610 you later everyone