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Oh, no, you can't. No, you have to leave that.

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Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. 2026. Oh, don't

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tell me that. Oh, one year. You're 30 this year.

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You're never supposed to say that. It's like

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the number one rule. Old. Old and shameful. Why

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are you looking at that? Looking like anything.

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We've enjoyed our holidays, haven't we? Well,

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yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. We're back after

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hiatus. Busy month. Lots of shit went on. So

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we didn't step away. We just couldn't fucking

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get round to doing the pod. So here we are. We're

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back. It's the 3rd of February. January. We've

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missed a month. First. Third. Fuck. We're here.

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Either way. Help me. I can't really. Yeah. I

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can't do much in this situation. Rusty. Yeah.

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I mean, sorry. I know I just said this was fine,

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but I did just fuck with it again. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, it's been pretty wild. I still am adamant

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that it does not feel like... It didn't feel

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like Christmas. It didn't feel like New Year.

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It doesn't feel like we're in a new year now.

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yeah yeah yeah it's kind of all melded into one

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the theory where like it was all a simulation

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that ended ended in 2020 yeah and that's why

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nothing feels real anymore yeah but we've all

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just got like a collective like traumas of what

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was like it's so weird isn't it maybe it's because

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the majority of the people that you interact

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with are of the same age bracket so you all you've

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all grown we've all grown up around the same

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time doing the same So at some level, we probably

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all think the same and experience the same shit.

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No, but I have it with customers. Go on. I'll

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just leave that there dead for a moment. Let's

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just leave that just one more minute. Cool, right.

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Yeah, with customers and stuff. Everyone feels

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it. Of all generations, I've had it from everybody.

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This just general, I don't know. of what the

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fuck. Probably because it's just so fucking expensive

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and draining. Yeah. It's just so much money.

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Throw it into a gaming type. You see a lot of

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the stuff where companies are speculating that

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AAA games will end up being 100 quid a pop. Christ.

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100 quid a pop. Could you imagine? That's depressing.

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What are you supposed to do though? Yeah, but

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then it's the same with like gig tickets and

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stuff. You know, I remember an expensive gig

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being like, oh, 35, 40. You know what I mean?

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Like, shit, don't know if I can swing that. Like,

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if it was a 35 or 40 quid ticket, you were at

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Wembley, the O2, whatever. Now, you can't even

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get into the back nosebleeds for that. It's mad.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, gaming, like when

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you think... Is that what they call it, the nosebleeds?

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You've never heard that saying? Is that because

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they're so high? Yeah, from the altitude. That's

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cool. We're sitting in the nosebleeds. Or the

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gods. They call it the gods as well. Elbow to

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elbow with Jesus. But yeah, just generally really

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fucking depressing. Because I know, speaking

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of Dreamlight Valley, for example, the latest

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DLC... i so far haven't found i haven't seen

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a problem with it but people were moaning saying

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like no this should have been a mini dlc or this

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you know it shouldn't have been the same price

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as the other two but then really how do you they've

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also introduced mounts which i feel like mechanically

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is quite intensive um that that does kind of

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warrant Do you know what I mean? It is quite

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a big change to gameplay because it's applicable

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outside of that DLC as well. What was the cloud

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thing then that you could do? What cloud thing?

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Where you would travel around on like a surfboard

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thing. That's like a glider or a sprint. So is

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that not a fucking mountain? No, that's your

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sprint. That's what sprint looks like. Yeah.

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And so originally there was no faster movement.

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You just ran. Then they introduced it and basically

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how it works is you've got like a bar. like a

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stamina bar sort of yeah and then that bar is

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full but then if you overfill that bar again

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it becomes gold and that's what you use to sprint

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whereas with the mount it doesn't use anything

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it's just infinite you can just just keep going

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around um i'm liking it i'm liking it so far

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um and that's kind of like what we were saying

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the other day about like stranger things and

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like the That might make any sense if I don't

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explain it. Stranger Things is over. I know.

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It's over. But we were talking about Stranger

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Things and how we watched it and then sort of

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like quickly went on to socials and sort of to

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see how everyone else was thinking. And whilst

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that's like quite normal to do in this day and

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age, at the same time, it's like, are you then

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forming your own opinion or is it getting diluted

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by what other people think? And I think that's

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true, like with Dreamlight. I very easily could

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have gone, oh, no, you know, apparently it's

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shit. Like, I'm not going to bother because,

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you know, these people don't like it. But then

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actually what's happened there is, you know,

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seven people over a week on Reddit have gone,

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I didn't really like that. And I'm then basing

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that when actually so far I'm quite enjoying

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it. You kind of fall into that trap, don't you?

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Especially in speaking, I think it does link

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very closely with money and the way things are

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lately because we're all so frightened of letting

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go of that money. You're choosing to spend money

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on something and it's not refundable, only in

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limited circumstances. So you want to search

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and review culture. But that's one of the worst

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things as well for the entertainment industry.

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Like with games, think of... Well, we've mentioned

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it a million times, but it fits perfectly into

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what we're talking about. Days Gone. Oh, man.

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Reviewed terribly. when it first came out. It's

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mad. But it's not a bad game. It's a brilliant

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game. It's amazing. But you can guarantee that

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the majority of people would have seen those.

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We do it ourselves. Oh, you see fucking Hogwarts

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Legacies come out. Apparently it's shit. I think

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I'll give it a miss. Because there's a monetary

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point to that. If the game was free... We pre

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-ordered Hogwarts Legacies. Yeah, no, yeah. I'm

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just using it as an example. Sorry, it's my literal

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thinking. But you use that like if I'm talking

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about if a game comes out and let's say Mark's

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played Ghost of Yotai. He's got the platinum

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for it. So if anyone's opinion is valid on whether

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that game's good or not, it's probably going

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to be Mark's because there's nothing more that

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he can do in that game. So if he tells me that

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Ghost of Yotai is a great game, I'm going to

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believe him as a good source because we're close

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mates. And chances are, I'm going to then play

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it off the basis of him saying it's decent. If

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he turned around to me and said, this is the

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shittest thing I've ever played, stay away. Chances

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are, because it's got a price tag of about 60

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to 70 quid, I'm going to go, yeah, no, yeah,

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I'll keep my money. True, but then I think that's

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where you benefit from actually knowing the person

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that you're asking because you know yourself

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that you and Mark have very similar... uh like

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interests so it's gonna if mark likes something

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you're more likely to like something whereas

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say like you and i we cross over for sure like

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there's quite a lot that we do cross over but

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we also do not cross over in other ways so it's

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like pinch of salt isn't it like in the same

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way that mark like he there's things that you

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liked that mark doesn't and things like that

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but you're able to sort of get that rough idea

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and yeah you know you kind of go right well actually

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yeah that's something that i can see myself playing

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yeah yeah i think it's just weird yeah you're

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you're um i don't think people realize how heavily

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you are influenced by what others are saying

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and like what we just said with forming your

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own opinion i can't remember the last time i

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actually had my own um my well i suppose outer

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worlds 2 maybe a lot of people don't like it

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I really like it I don't give a fuck what everyone

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else has said because I've played it I've completed

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it so I know for me it was a really good game

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and I would recommend it to anyone that's interested

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in that type of game like the fallouts and stuff

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like that to give Outer Worlds 2 a crack but

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a lot of people are like nah it's awful it's

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soulless and yeah weird I suppose that's one

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of the more recent times when i was about i was

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gonna say i don't remember the last time i'd

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had my own opinion that wasn't influenced by

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other people but i suppose that is because i

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was keep burping that was when that got announced

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i was so dead set on getting that are you good

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are you good It's that coffee. It's whatever

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the fuck you put in this. What is that? Vanilla?

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Caramel, I think. Salt caramel. Caramel poison.

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Yeah. But it is odd. And I think we've kind of

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lost that. I think everyone kind of has because

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we are all so connected. Well, paleo. What I

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was going to say was rage. And that's something

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that I just, I can't remember how it even came

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into my fucking possession. It was like, just

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appeared one day. It was either from like a bundle

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or whatever. It was just there and I played it.

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I was off the back of, I think, maybe Skyrim

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and I was looking for something else and it was

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similar, like same people and whatever. And it's

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something that I really enjoyed. Rinsed it with

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absolutely no idea. of how it was originally

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ever received or what people thought of it or

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what thing like and and then when rage 2 came

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out and it was like this is shit oh my god it's

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absolute shit yeah and i didn't touch it because

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i mean i was away from xbox at that time anyway

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and like it wasn't it wasn't going to be something

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that i would get yeah but there is a chance potentially

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that i could really enjoy that game i think do

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you know what i mean like you don't it's so weird

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isn't it i think where we've I had a conversation

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about it before, and I don't know if it was you

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or if it was with Ash, where we spoke about demos

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and how there's such almost a lack of demos now

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for games, where you used to get the physical

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disc, or you could download a demo off the store,

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and even now on the PlayStation Store, the demo

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section isn't there anymore. You have to physically

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search the game and then search if it has a demo

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to play it. Like with Star Wars Outlaws. Star

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Wars Outlaws, the exact reason why Ash is, I

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don't know if he's completed it or not yet, probably

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hasn't, but it's why he started playing Star

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Wars Outlaws and really enjoyed it because he

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obviously had an opinion where he didn't like

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the look of it, which was sort of shifted with

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a lot of the people that how Star Wars Outlaws

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was received. And then obviously I played the

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demo of it, which gives you like two hours worth

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of playtime. wasn't a massive fan but then said

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to ash play the demo of it it's free what like

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what you ain't gonna lose and then he really

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liked it so then bought the game and now really

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likes the game so it's like that all of those

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opinions that you you read about in terms of

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that specific game where everyone was ripping

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it and ash was sort of with them on that and

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then has come away from that and then played

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it himself and gone actually I really like it.

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So you think, how many games have we all, games,

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movies, music, whatever, come across where multiple

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people have gone, that's really bad. So you go,

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all right, I'm going to follow the fucking herd

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here and say that's really bad even though I

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don't know. And then actually turns out you would

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have really, really enjoyed it. There has to

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be loads of games like that where Metro Exodus

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is one where it's critically acclaimed. People

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absolutely love it. I can't get on with it. I've

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tried multiple times to play it. I cannot, whether

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it's because I'm trying to play it in the wrong

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setting, as in, like, my mindset isn't in the

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mindset of being, like, a Russian fucking winter

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-killing monsters. Yeah. Or if, for me, it just

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isn't, it's just a game that doesn't click. Well,

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yeah, and I mean, like, I think, as well, speaking

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of Days Gone... Obviously, you'd played that,

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you'd tried to play it. Multiple times. And it

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was like... And then, boom, one particular time,

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it just clicked. And then the next thing, you're

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rinsing through it. Yeah. Rivals. I literally...

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There's a show, which everyone... Oh, my God,

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it's class. A show called Rivals, and it's David

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Tennant, Aidan Turner. It's got names in it.

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And me and mum tried to watch it, and I was just

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like, no, this, no, not at all. And all it was

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is kind of almost like the opposite effect. Was

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I saw a... You know, someone had made a... What

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the fuck are they... What are they called? Like

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a... A reel? Yeah. A short? Yeah. I don't know.

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I'm trying to think of... There's a name for

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it. What was it? Yeah, like a clip of all the...

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A montage. A montage. Thank you. A montage. Came

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to my rescue. It's lovely, isn't it? Yeah, I

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know. I made it. It's lovely. You're throwing

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me off now. Where was I? You're so sour. I know.

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Oh, the Grinch. Oh, shit. Sorry, this is really

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boring to listen to. Fucking hell, Grinch drink

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from McDonald's. Shit. Oh, no, I've put tropical

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juice in that, though. Oh, Rhys. Made a montage

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of rivals. Thank you. And I thought, oh, okay.

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And you were asleep. We'd been watching something

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else and you'd gone asleep. And I was like, oh,

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fuck it, I'll put that on. And we were absolutely

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hooked on it. You wake up 20 minutes in. You

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were into it. Like, we watched the whole thing

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and that's something, like, if you'd have asked

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me... Why do I not remember it? Rivals? Are you

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taking a piss? David Tennant and it's the...

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Yeah. Amazing. Rupert and... That was really

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good. Yeah. Really, really good. I really enjoyed

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that. Yeah, we were hooked like motherfuckers.

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But if you'd have shown me, like, oh, have you

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seen that? And, like, shown me a clip, like a,

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you know, a photo of it, I'd have gone, oh, I

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tried to watch that, it was shit. like it's so

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weird isn't it how something will catch you at

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another time and all of a sudden it's just like

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perfect vikings yeah that's another one i'll

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get to the most pivotal pivotal point halfway

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through it and then go yeah no i'm not watching

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anymore and then it's like some of the best fucking

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cinema ever after that's what you've done with

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9 -1 -1 as well you've decided after something

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similar has happened that you're not watching

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it anymore. I have. And I've tried to get you

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to watch it. I just can't. It's just getting

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a bit silly. If you're in... I'm sorry. They're

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in fucking space. They fixed the space. They're

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out now, aren't they? Yes, they're out now, but

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it was just getting a bit fucking... Everyone

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take cover from the asteroids. Shut up. But there's

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also a whole other... I cannot believe... For

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context, everybody, we are... on the ninth season,

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okay? Oh, no. We have watched, we have watched

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eight, and it's one of those, like, American

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Minds was like 20 episodes a season. Yeah. We

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have watched eight seasons of this show, and

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now I can't get this man And every episode's

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like, what, 45? to watch it. Yeah. Are you joking?

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Like, this is probably going to be the last season.

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For fuck's sake. You know what I mean? We've

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got to finish it. You've got to finish what we

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started. Let's finish Revenge, and then we'll

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finish 9 -1 -1. And we'll just do it like we

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did where we put it on at dinner time. Okay,

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we'll do that then. We'll finish it. Okay. Days

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we've spent. I dread to think if you added it

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up, it's probably like actual whole weeks of

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our lives would be spent watching this and you

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won't finish the ending. Well, let me do some

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real rough math because Revenge is... Which again,

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which is another one. I remember it being on

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telly and I was like, nah. It was about 22 episodes

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a season. Yeah. We're in the fourth season. Yeah.

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So we've watched... We've watched about 110 episodes.

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How did you get that from 22 times three? Oh,

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sorry, I did four seasons. Sorry. Yeah, we've

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done three and a half seasons so far. Yeah. Yeah,

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so we've done about, yeah, probably 80 episodes.

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Yeah. I know. Mad, isn't it? Yeah. And imagine

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now. 80 hours we've watched. No, I'm not watching

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it. You can watch it if you want, but I'm not

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watching it. That's how it feels. Yeah, but this

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has you hooked. Ladies and gentlemen, what me

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and Steph are going through at the moment, and

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it seems like that kind of perfect timing where

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everyone has a New Year's resolution, blah, blah.

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I promise you now, it's none of that bollocks.

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But basically, me and Steph are trying to step

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away from social media because it's just getting...

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What? Nothing, I'm listening. Because it's just

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getting too much. Especially from my point. Just

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spending too many hours in the day staring at

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my phone, looking at utter bollocks rather than

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all the things that are around me. Including

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all the books that I want to fucking read. Fallout

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Shelter now. It's great. I love it. Gaming. There's

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conversations with people. There's so many more

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interactive things that I personally... and missing

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out on because i'm just glued to my phone looking

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at either a whole family get crushed by a fucking

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truck or or a baby falling over and then there'll

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be a fucking dog doing backflips and then there's

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an ai video and then an ai video then an ai video

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another one chimpanzee there's all sorts of shit

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it's just it's just random attacks so we've both

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stepped away from from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok,

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all that bollocks. And it's trying to understand

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that our brains just aren't used to not having

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that constant stream of dopamine. And it's almost

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like that's what was happening with 911. And

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then it's just something switches in your brain

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where you go, right, I'm not getting any more

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dopamine now. I can't be bothered to put in the

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extra hours. to get to the point where it's juicy.

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Whereas I feel like with Revenge, it's just every

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fucking episode. Every episode, there's just

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something. There's some twist. There's some bollocks

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where you go, oh my God. I think that's why we're

00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.369
so... hooked on it it's ramped up hasn't it it's

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ramped up because I think we know that it's at

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the end of the day it's a show from I think it

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began in 2011 ended in 2014 so you know there's

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not going to be any more so we know that we're

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getting to the end plus at points we're like

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10 episodes away from the end man and then it's

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done I know and like obviously because it's not

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current we've not seen any spoilers literally

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the only spoiler i see was about declan and even

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then i didn't know fully and that was so long

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ago now so long ago who's declan and um yeah

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like it's it's it's nice like that and i know

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that when this ends i feel like if we crack out

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9 -1 -1 it's a good like we can then find something

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else after because Stranger Things has ended

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now not that we were watching that on the regular

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anyway because we've been waiting three years

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for it to fucking come out we've got Fallout

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on a weekly basis yeah we've got options and

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then I think Rivals is coming back as well so

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I've got fucking on the edge of a burp now I

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can feel it in me bones I think that must be

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a sorry if you heard that must be a thing with

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gaming as well where you want that that constant

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dopamine this hit and i think that's what kind

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of started started the conversation that we had

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was you know we're like oh yeah we've got some

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like so excited to have some time off and stuff

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and then you had a you were sat there with your

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book your wow book and i was sat there with paleo

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and we were both just scrolling on our phones

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and it was like a little minute of like what

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the fuck are we doing yeah And then you go, oh,

00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:22.490
have you played much? Oh, no, I've not had a

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lot of time. Or like, oh, did you finish that

00:21:24.890 --> 00:21:27.430
book? Oh, no, it's been six months and I haven't

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finished this book. Oh, why is that? Or like

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you would take your book to work and then you

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wouldn't read it. Yeah, I just scrolled on my

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phone. And I think ultimately it's because, like

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you say, there is a more reliable amount of dopamine

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waiting when you scroll. It's an addiction. Chances

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are. Yeah, if you don't like a video, boom, it's

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gone. It's an addiction. It would be like going

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to someone who smokes and going, right, give

00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.099
me those pack of cigarettes. Here's all the ingredients

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to make a cigarette. Now make one and then you

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can smoke it. I'm not going to do that. I might

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do it a couple of times, but then I'm going to

00:22:00.380 --> 00:22:02.200
go, this is bollocks. This ain't worth the aggro.

00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.539
I'm going to find something else. I think that's

00:22:05.539 --> 00:22:08.180
why a lot of people don't do roll -ups. They

00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:13.759
just smoke tailor -made fags. Because it's just

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easier or vaping. So it's being on your phone

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involved with that. It makes it, I almost hate

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talking about it because it makes you sound high

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and mighty because you've only stopped doing

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that for like a week. Not even that of not using

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these apps. So to sit here and not lecture other

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people on it, but to say like, oh, I've given

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it up and I feel so great. It's like, well, you

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haven't. I feel like anyone can stop doing something

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for a week. Well, and say so like today, I haven't

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really been on there. I did when I woke up and

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then like on my phone and like just looking at

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stuff. But today when we've had like stuff to

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do, it's I think the real test is like you said,

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.500
when you go back to work or like, yeah, or like

00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:08.059
I'm here and you're not here. So I think that's

00:23:08.059 --> 00:23:11.359
where we struggle when either of us is home alone.

00:23:11.930 --> 00:23:14.450
without the other and you just like scratch about

00:23:14.450 --> 00:23:18.130
put the radio on get all lonely like it is then

00:23:18.130 --> 00:23:22.150
there but we'll see we'll see how we go but no

00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:23.769
it's a completely personal choice it's not like

00:23:23.769 --> 00:23:25.589
a judgmental thing either because ultimately

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i think everyone can can sort of like safely

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acknowledge that they are built to keep you on

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there because that's how it makes money and you

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know you think like how in the last sort of let's

00:23:38.049 --> 00:23:44.500
say probably five years now It used to be that

00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:46.220
apps were different, but now they're all the

00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:49.259
same. TikTok is the same as Instagram Reels and

00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.900
YouTube Shorts and Facebook Reels. Much like

00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:54.079
with any form of... Twitter's got Reels. PlayStation,

00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:58.019
Xbox. They're all the same. Yeah. Same thing.

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Because it's like, oh, they're doing really well.

00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:03.839
What are they doing well on? Oh, videos that

00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.940
auto -scroll and two times speed. Well, let's

00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:07.980
do that then. Perfect. You know what I mean?

00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.619
So I think everyone knows that that's kind of

00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:14.240
like happening. But I think it's up to you when,

00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.660
you know, if and when or whatever that you sort

00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:19.740
of say, look, actually, I'm going to sort of

00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:22.440
step this back a bit. Like for myself, it's more

00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.059
that I've got a drawer full of craft things that

00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:28.099
aren't finished, games that aren't finished that

00:24:28.099 --> 00:24:30.980
I really, really want to play. Well, even Mark

00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:33.180
was telling me when, because me and Mark have

00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:36.160
been playing Ark Raiders quite a bit and having

00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.160
fun with that. Jay, you're fucking useless, by

00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:40.660
the way. I just want to get that out there. He

00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:42.559
won't listen to this. He won't hear it. Chances

00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.140
are Mark will tell him that I've said this, so

00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:47.599
I hope he does hear it. Absolutely useless. I'm

00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:49.519
not playing with him again. It's all right, Jay.

00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:51.539
I've been in a trio with them two before as well.

00:24:51.539 --> 00:24:54.380
It's rough. Just useless. Just not doing. Just

00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:58.140
not being a team player. Mark, I'm dead, all

00:24:58.140 --> 00:25:01.450
right? So it might be a bit... A bit wary for

00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:04.569
me to have such a high opinion of how bad Jay

00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:06.950
is because I was actually dead. Sounds like a

00:25:06.950 --> 00:25:10.750
familiar story, doesn't it? But watching Mark

00:25:10.750 --> 00:25:15.930
battle three people on his own and then scrolling

00:25:15.930 --> 00:25:19.609
over to Jay, who's just standing there, not even

00:25:19.609 --> 00:25:22.829
looking in the direction and going, well, where

00:25:22.829 --> 00:25:27.349
is he? What? What do you mean? What do you mean?

00:25:27.430 --> 00:25:31.180
We have Matt Mark. But me and Mark have been

00:25:31.180 --> 00:25:33.539
playing Ark Raiders. And even Mark said, he was

00:25:33.539 --> 00:25:38.079
like, one of my resolutions, he was like, is

00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.619
to finish games. He was like, I've got all these

00:25:41.619 --> 00:25:43.539
games. He was like, it's nothing crazy. He was

00:25:43.539 --> 00:25:47.099
like, I'm just sick of playing a game, a story

00:25:47.099 --> 00:25:49.200
-driven game, not an online game because they're

00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:53.019
different, and not finishing it. Black Mith Wukong

00:25:53.019 --> 00:25:55.019
still hasn't finished it. He really liked it,

00:25:55.059 --> 00:25:57.039
but he hasn't finished it. Yeah. I'm fucking

00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:58.779
terrible at it as well, the amount of games I've

00:25:58.779 --> 00:26:01.220
got where I haven't finished it. The problem

00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:06.480
that I have is it's such a dying like the beast.

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.920
I really liked it, but at the same time, I really

00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.960
hated it. I think I was just burnt out and scared,

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.460
ultimately. There's a whole section of that game,

00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.720
the night mode, that I didn't touch. And Mark

00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.259
didn't touch it. Get away, really? Yeah, don't

00:26:22.259 --> 00:26:23.779
get me wrong, the story doesn't take you there.

00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.339
There would only be a couple of quests or bounties,

00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.079
like side stuff that you miss, but the actual

00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.039
game itself you don't have to play in the night

00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:36.660
time. But it was so incredibly hard. Yeah. And

00:26:36.660 --> 00:26:39.039
Mark didn't touch it either because he was like,

00:26:39.099 --> 00:26:42.140
absolutely fuck that. So there's a whole side

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:45.740
of it that I just didn't experience. And then

00:26:45.740 --> 00:26:49.660
that was, for me, kind of a slog to get through.

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.299
And I didn't think the ending was all too amazing.

00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:58.059
And then to almost be forcing, because I was

00:26:58.059 --> 00:26:59.640
telling myself, I was like, you have to finish

00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.900
it. I was like, if you don't finish this, you're

00:27:02.900 --> 00:27:05.299
not going to. So I was like, you have to force

00:27:05.299 --> 00:27:08.299
yourself to finish it. And then your brain finds

00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:10.319
other things to take you away from it because

00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.539
it knows I've started playing WoW again and then

00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:14.240
there's fucking all sorts of other stuff. And

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.000
it's like, no, I need to fuck off. I need to

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.849
finish it. And I did. And then... The disparity

00:27:20.849 --> 00:27:25.470
of when I then played something out of Worlds

00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:28.390
2 was the next game that I played after that.

00:27:28.529 --> 00:27:33.130
And I was fucking glued to it. Glued to it. Every

00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:35.130
area, I was doing every single mission. There

00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:38.210
wasn't anything I left untouched. So I was like,

00:27:38.269 --> 00:27:41.630
I was all in. I was absolutely loving it. I didn't

00:27:41.630 --> 00:27:44.769
feel like I was towards the end of playing Dying

00:27:44.769 --> 00:27:47.710
Light. I was sat there for maybe like the last...

00:27:48.199 --> 00:27:50.859
10 hours of it sitting there thinking there's

00:27:50.859 --> 00:27:53.160
other stuff that I'm missing out on I need to

00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:54.740
get this done because there's other games that

00:27:54.740 --> 00:27:56.740
I want to play whereas when I was playing Outer

00:27:56.740 --> 00:28:00.279
Worlds the entire time that thought wasn't entering

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.839
my mind of there's other things I want to do

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.200
no this is exactly where I want to be so to have

00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.059
that as a resolution of finish the games that

00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:14.700
you buy before you go and buy another game because

00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:15.819
I feel like it's part of the experience even

00:28:15.819 --> 00:28:19.690
if it is shit I feel like it's still a good experience

00:28:19.690 --> 00:28:23.690
to play a game that you didn't enjoy. Well, yeah,

00:28:23.769 --> 00:28:27.529
especially because something drew you to it in

00:28:27.529 --> 00:28:30.970
the first place. And when you think, like, if

00:28:30.970 --> 00:28:34.049
you've got so far, let's say you're 70 % complete

00:28:34.049 --> 00:28:37.089
and then you're really struggling, you think,

00:28:37.109 --> 00:28:39.190
kind of like with 9 -1 -1, I agree with you,

00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:41.630
it is quite hammy and it is getting a bit unbelievable,

00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:45.039
but... Yeah, when you think of, when you're looking,

00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:50.220
can you go and get your drink, bitch? Bit of

00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:52.619
ASMR there. Oh, that's good. Crunchy little kumifis.

00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:54.940
Look, I'll put it in the middle so you can reach

00:28:54.940 --> 00:28:56.200
it. No, that's right, because I've got mine over

00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:57.599
there. No, it's fine. When we're finished with

00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.380
this episode, I'll go and get mine. Like, yeah,

00:29:02.420 --> 00:29:03.960
you kind of just think, well, you've put so much

00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.720
time into it that, yeah, just get it done and

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.220
then close that chapter. Because then I think...

00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:12.029
As well, as much as, obviously, there's people

00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:14.049
that would listen to this and be like, come on,

00:29:14.109 --> 00:29:17.390
it's a game. But there is an element of, like,

00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:23.970
I feel similar with Tomb Raider. So when the

00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:25.450
first, like, obviously not the first one, but

00:29:25.450 --> 00:29:27.349
you know what I mean, like the first of the revived

00:29:27.349 --> 00:29:31.390
ones, finished it completely. Second one, did

00:29:31.390 --> 00:29:33.349
it, finished it completely. Third one, so excited

00:29:33.349 --> 00:29:38.880
for it. Got probably maybe 80 % of the way. And

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.920
I had gone... So in the previous games, I don't

00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.720
know that I 100 %ed it. But in this last one,

00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:49.779
I made sure I had got every relic from every

00:29:49.779 --> 00:29:52.640
area, every monolith, every single thing you

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.619
could do in an area before moving on. Yeah, the

00:29:54.619 --> 00:29:55.819
last time you were playing it, that's what you

00:29:55.819 --> 00:29:59.000
were doing. I remember. And... You were like,

00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:01.220
I can't leave this place because there was one

00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:04.019
thing that you needed to get from it. Yeah, and...

00:30:04.990 --> 00:30:09.250
But obviously it gets harder and harder. And

00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:11.750
like now, the same thing would happen. So essentially,

00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:14.329
I came to it having not played it for actual

00:30:14.329 --> 00:30:17.329
years. And of course, you don't know what you're

00:30:17.329 --> 00:30:18.650
doing. You don't know what the buttons are. You

00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:20.670
don't know what all the little things you've

00:30:20.670 --> 00:30:24.049
got do. So you're shit at it. And then it's really

00:30:24.049 --> 00:30:25.609
hard. And then it's really boring. Not boring,

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:26.789
but you know what I mean? Like it's annoying.

00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.630
It's not enjoyable, let's say. So yeah, going

00:30:30.630 --> 00:30:33.410
back. Okay, let's try it again. But I'll have

00:30:33.410 --> 00:30:36.259
to do that. now again yeah which is putting me

00:30:36.259 --> 00:30:39.960
off but then you and actually like seeing that

00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:41.500
they're gonna do obviously i know that i think

00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:43.900
they sold it off but nevertheless there will

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:47.740
be another one what was it 27 yeah 27 yeah and

00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:50.700
initially upon hearing it i was like better finish

00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:54.039
uh what is it rise rise of the tomb raider yeah

00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:58.480
um you know i better finish that no it's shadow

00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.700
yeah it's shadow shadow that i haven't finished

00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:06.140
um And it's stupid because I loved it. At no

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.880
point did I get bored. I was loving it. But all

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.720
it took was something that I meant, you know,

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.660
it might have been uni or whatever. I can't remember

00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:17.539
what stopped me playing it. And before you know

00:31:17.539 --> 00:31:20.680
it, it's been years again. I think we suffer

00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.619
with the same thing. So like, funnily enough,

00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:27.259
I was just texting Connor earlier saying, do

00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:29.640
you fancy getting back into Enshrouded? Oh, perfect.

00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:35.440
I said to him in the text, what did I say? Because

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.640
it sums up perfectly what you've just said. I

00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.960
said, was thinking about jumping back on Enshrouded

00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:46.880
if you fancy. Might start a new character. Because...

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.940
Just get rid of... Because I don't remember any

00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:53.599
of it. And I do the same thing with WoW. I leveled

00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.519
a shaman in Legion Remix. Absolutely love it.

00:31:57.019 --> 00:31:59.380
I've got about three of the cunts, but I don't

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:03.500
remember how to play them. So I find it better

00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:07.140
for my brain to start over again. That way it's

00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:09.779
kind of new, but isn't new. Yeah. And exciting.

00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.420
And the pressure of, there's nothing worse than

00:32:14.420 --> 00:32:17.680
dropping into a game. Like when Shadow of the

00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.839
Earth Tree come out. Yeah. Hadn't touched Elden

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.099
Ring for ages. I didn't have a fucking clue what

00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:24.779
I was doing. And it was one of the worst things

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:26.539
to the point where me and Ash actually said,

00:32:26.619 --> 00:32:29.180
we need to get some practice time in before.

00:32:29.789 --> 00:32:33.609
the dlc drops because otherwise you're just not

00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:37.089
gonna know i didn't i ended up just going into

00:32:37.089 --> 00:32:39.170
shadow of the earth tree blind but picked it

00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:43.670
up pretty quick um but even that was like fuck

00:32:43.670 --> 00:32:45.569
i don't i don't know what i'm doing this is a

00:32:45.569 --> 00:32:48.349
lot harder than what i remember um so yeah jumping

00:32:48.349 --> 00:32:51.650
back into a game when you're already so far in

00:32:51.650 --> 00:32:54.849
because then the the game's not designed for

00:32:54.849 --> 00:32:57.910
you to get 70 of the way through and then Take

00:32:57.910 --> 00:33:00.950
a break. It's designed for you to go from 0 %

00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:04.609
to 100 % and that's it. So unless you're in the

00:33:04.609 --> 00:33:08.710
first hour of a game where you're getting somewhat

00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:12.009
of an intro, it's not designed to help you along.

00:33:12.190 --> 00:33:14.289
It's designed for you to play the game. So trying

00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:17.009
to jump back into that is so overwhelming, but

00:33:17.009 --> 00:33:18.569
at the same time, it isn't. Because you think

00:33:18.569 --> 00:33:20.769
realistically, it's going to take you, what,

00:33:20.809 --> 00:33:24.049
half an hour to look through your inventory,

00:33:24.190 --> 00:33:26.230
know what buttons are what, know what does what.

00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.480
know where you are and then crack on yeah but

00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.460
in your fucking head it makes far more sense

00:33:33.460 --> 00:33:36.440
no let me let me wipe 20 hours worth of gameplay

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.220
and start again to save myself the half an hour

00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:42.599
of having to learn it or the alternative that

00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.579
being let me just think about it wish i was doing

00:33:45.579 --> 00:33:48.099
it but not do it for the next three years and

00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:49.799
then have this conversation again that's what

00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.279
i seem to be i can't even remember if it was

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.140
in this house or my old house when i was when

00:33:54.140 --> 00:33:57.000
i was replaying a bit I can't remember. I think

00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:58.599
it might have been... It was the old house. It

00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.519
wasn't this house. No, you haven't touched it

00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.119
in this house. No, I think I have, because I

00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:05.099
remember plugging the Xbox in, actually. Maybe.

00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.619
But if it is, it was bloody ages ago. Certainly

00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:10.099
not in the last six months. And it's mad. But

00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:12.679
so many of us do that. Or, like, if you get something,

00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:15.260
a game that you really wanted, get home, and

00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.719
then you're like, I'll play that later. So why

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.739
are you edging yourself? That's something I liked

00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:23.920
when we, and brief as it was, when we dabbled

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.650
back into ESO. And they have that whole quest

00:34:28.650 --> 00:34:31.510
line. It's like called Welcome Back. Yeah, WoW's

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:33.369
now introduced that as well. Yeah, the concept

00:34:33.369 --> 00:34:36.449
of, we know that you've been gone. Here's something

00:34:36.449 --> 00:34:38.369
fun for you to get stuck into. It's something

00:34:38.369 --> 00:34:42.630
that, you know, it's new and it's here and it's,

00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:44.849
you know, you can get these bits. It didn't keep

00:34:44.849 --> 00:34:48.369
us ultimately, but nevertheless, I still appreciated

00:34:48.369 --> 00:34:50.789
it. Like it was cool. And I do, and like I have

00:34:50.789 --> 00:34:53.369
a lot of love for ESO. I could, but I think what...

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:57.619
It's the only game I play on a computer. And

00:34:57.619 --> 00:34:59.579
I think that kills it because also as well, I

00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:04.239
think we've definitely got... I would have thought

00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.179
we'd have figured it out by now, but since we've

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:09.300
lived here and it's the being, I don't want to

00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:11.380
be sat upstairs while you're sat down here. Yeah.

00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.420
It's weird, isn't it? Or like if I'm in the front

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:16.039
room and you're in here, it's weird. Yeah, I

00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:17.179
was literally about to say, I was like, after

00:35:17.179 --> 00:35:20.000
this is all done, you can sit and play Shadow

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.579
of the Tomb Raider. But then immediately I was

00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:24.969
like... But I want to sit here and play WoW.

00:35:24.989 --> 00:35:27.150
But I was like, I don't want to sit here while

00:35:27.150 --> 00:35:28.750
you're over there. But at the same time, I can't

00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:31.110
set this up. I'm sure we could jerry -rig something.

00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:34.409
Really, we could. That's the whole purpose of

00:35:34.409 --> 00:35:37.150
it. It's just we haven't got the means for it

00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:41.750
at the moment. It's a very nice issue to have.

00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:44.510
Like, oh, I don't want to... Yeah, I can see

00:35:44.510 --> 00:35:49.510
why people get... joint desktops yeah which we

00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:51.929
could and potentially it may even Leon's got

00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:55.730
one with his missus lend to the pod like if I

00:35:55.730 --> 00:35:58.570
were to if we were to have a desk down here or

00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:02.050
something like that then you guys could sit at

00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:03.389
it you know what I mean like it would it would

00:36:03.389 --> 00:36:07.849
work but yeah we'll we'll have a think on on

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:11.369
that like when they have like a complete like

00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:13.829
a his and her side of of an office and things

00:36:13.829 --> 00:36:15.329
like that you could probably you could probably

00:36:16.610 --> 00:36:18.510
You could probably clear a bit of room behind

00:36:18.510 --> 00:36:20.710
me and then pull this forward and then have another

00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:25.510
desk in between that bit and this bit. So then

00:36:25.510 --> 00:36:29.230
you've got the gap where you can set up your

00:36:29.230 --> 00:36:31.889
own things there. It just doesn't solve the issue

00:36:31.889 --> 00:36:35.809
of consoles. No, not at all. Just need to be

00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:39.110
a PC game, clearly. The other solution is to

00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:41.329
just get some form of desk in there as well.

00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:46.900
So you can just unplug and move. If I could unplug

00:36:46.900 --> 00:36:48.619
this and then bring it around to Charlotte's

00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:51.320
house and sit on the fucking kitchen counter

00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.639
playing it, I can figure out something to fucking

00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.480
move it over there. It's not a necessity. We'll

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.440
figure it out. After this, we'll figure something

00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.659
out because I would like to do that. They did

00:37:02.659 --> 00:37:05.679
not figure it out. Yeah. I've got so many things

00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.260
on our to -do list now. When you said paleo earlier,

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:12.380
what were you saying, paleo? I was going to say...

00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.739
What got you into playing Paleo off the back

00:37:15.739 --> 00:37:20.159
of talking about people being influenced by reviews

00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.119
and other people's thoughts and opinions? Because

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.079
I'd never really heard of Paleo before, but it

00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.679
looks very similar to... It's got exactly the

00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.079
same chemistry or genetic makeup of almost every

00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.599
single survival, minus the survival aspect. It's

00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.989
a building. It's MMO. mmo yeah but centered around

00:37:44.989 --> 00:37:49.969
gathering crafting yeah yeah and there is that

00:37:49.969 --> 00:37:51.949
there is a like a storyline of because you're

00:37:51.949 --> 00:37:55.309
the only human humans have been gone for like

00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:58.230
however many humans and magic has been outlawed

00:37:58.230 --> 00:37:59.889
like humans haven't been outlawed but humans

00:37:59.889 --> 00:38:03.829
humans are gone other than you and magic has

00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:08.949
been outlawed by like the government um And I'm

00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:11.670
just at the start of the story. I found a temple

00:38:11.670 --> 00:38:17.170
and then... It only came out in 2024. Yeah. And

00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:20.070
you're trying to find these batteries that power

00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:23.230
these doors and their ruins and stuff. Fantasy

00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:26.409
Life Sim Adventure. There you go. That was a

00:38:26.409 --> 00:38:29.909
mouthful. That's what it's called. But truthfully,

00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:33.369
I couldn't tell you. So I got it on Switch. It's

00:38:33.369 --> 00:38:37.929
free. And played it on the Switch a bit, but

00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:41.130
graphically on the Switch is absolutely abhorrent,

00:38:41.210 --> 00:38:47.389
unfortunately. Which kind of made it feel a bit

00:38:47.389 --> 00:38:51.190
shit. Because, I don't know, not shit, but just,

00:38:51.250 --> 00:38:53.050
I don't know, didn't really grab me as much.

00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:54.510
And then I don't know why I went back to it,

00:38:54.570 --> 00:38:56.650
but I kind of did. Got a little bit more into

00:38:56.650 --> 00:39:00.010
it. And then it was around the time that Dreamlight

00:39:00.010 --> 00:39:03.690
became, in my opinion, unplayable on the Switch.

00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:10.239
having been 99 % to reducing slowly, slowly,

00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:14.119
slowly, all the way down to like 2%. It had,

00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.659
but I found it playable. Yes, it was slower loading

00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:20.460
times, graphically not brilliant, but then it

00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:22.880
just got shocking. And it was as they were bringing

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:28.320
up the DLC that came out in November, I was like,

00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.380
this is going to get so much worse. There's no

00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:34.199
way. So, obviously, I got that on PlayStation.

00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:37.099
And I think, yeah, I just had a little look and

00:39:37.099 --> 00:39:40.099
I thought, oh, I wonder if. And so, to put that

00:39:40.099 --> 00:39:42.139
onto the PlayStation, it was just like, oh, my

00:39:42.139 --> 00:39:44.059
God. Remember when you first played, when we

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:46.139
got DreamHack Valley on the PlayStation and just

00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:49.099
graphically the difference and how quick it was

00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:51.780
and you were like, fuck. And then it allowed

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:53.559
you to carry everything over as well, which is

00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.099
nice. Yeah, because that's the thing. I think

00:39:58.099 --> 00:39:59.820
number one for me, the best thing was the smart

00:39:59.820 --> 00:40:02.219
transfer out of the chests, or into the chests.

00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:04.159
Because it didn't used to be that bad, but it

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.619
got so bad. I'm talking like, you press the button

00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:10.380
and it moves like 15 seconds later. It was really,

00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.300
really bad. Really bad. Which is now instant.

00:40:13.380 --> 00:40:18.760
It's lovely. But, my thought train, what did

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.179
you say? My brain? The transition from Switch

00:40:22.179 --> 00:40:26.059
to PlayStation. Graphically. It looked really

00:40:26.059 --> 00:40:28.429
good. Played really well. Yeah, I know, but what

00:40:28.429 --> 00:40:31.210
was I going to say? I can't remember. I said

00:40:31.210 --> 00:40:33.429
about the Czech Republic. About playing Palia.

00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:38.989
DLC came out for Dreamlight. Yeah, but ultimately,

00:40:39.110 --> 00:40:41.650
yeah, and that's what... I'll remember what I

00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:44.849
was going to say in a minute. But that's what

00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:47.110
made me switch. And then I got so much more into

00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:51.070
it because, yeah, everything is so much quicker

00:40:51.070 --> 00:40:57.250
and just nice. Like, it's so... nice visually

00:40:57.250 --> 00:41:01.309
yeah yeah oh that's what i was gonna say um i

00:41:01.309 --> 00:41:03.949
knew it would come back so what you said there

00:41:03.949 --> 00:41:07.570
about it switching over with dreamlight i was

00:41:07.570 --> 00:41:11.050
so confused because everything it says it's like

00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:16.730
oh no this is um like specific to console it

00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:20.989
doesn't change over um but it has which is i

00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:24.110
really don't understand um yeah i'll take it

00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:26.380
i'll tell you i'm not complaining It's almost

00:41:26.380 --> 00:41:27.880
like, you know, like when Amazon during COVID

00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.139
and it was like, this is going to take three

00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:32.460
days to get you, babe. Jokes. It's always like,

00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.440
we'll be there tomorrow. I've got a very quick

00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.900
review for Palia from someone that's played it

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:44.860
done 79 hours. I first played Palier back when

00:41:44.860 --> 00:41:47.260
it first released before it was on Steam and

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:49.219
had an absolute blast with it. It's addictive,

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:51.079
it's fun and there's always something to do.

00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.699
Sometimes I have to take it slow and focus on

00:41:53.699 --> 00:41:55.559
one thing at a time else I'll get overwhelmed

00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.079
with choice. Here I am back again two years later.

00:41:58.179 --> 00:42:00.300
I started from scratch and the intro has been

00:42:00.300 --> 00:42:02.420
streamlined so much better now. I think the only

00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:04.840
thing the game really lacks for beginners is

00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:06.760
there's not much of a tutorial around how to

00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.360
set up your house, add rooms, etc. It kind of

00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.179
just throws you in and lets you figure it all

00:42:11.179 --> 00:42:16.679
out for yourself. Not that it's exactly complicated,

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.659
but still. It's a completely free game with absolutely

00:42:19.659 --> 00:42:21.940
no incentive to spend money. There's no gacha,

00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.780
no pay to win, nothing of the sort. You can purchase

00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:27.059
additional outfits and pets with coin bundles.

00:42:31.690 --> 00:42:35.409
These are by no means cheap, but there is plenty

00:42:35.409 --> 00:42:37.949
of choice. And again, no pressure to buy them

00:42:37.949 --> 00:42:39.650
whatsoever. It's currently my favourite game

00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:42.050
to sit back on the couch and relax with on my

00:42:42.050 --> 00:42:44.909
Steam Deck. Nice. It's got very positive reviews.

00:42:45.889 --> 00:42:50.289
They very recently, like I'm in December, introduced,

00:42:50.409 --> 00:42:54.789
they've called it a Lunar Path. The first one

00:42:54.789 --> 00:42:56.630
is Path of the Kitsuni or something like that,

00:42:56.670 --> 00:43:01.139
I think. And that did get some criticism. With

00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:04.119
the whole... What was it called? Dark... It's

00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:08.440
called something like dark... Dark something.

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.099
I feel like Ash would know the term. For what?

00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.519
The pay thing. So basically the price of something.

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:22.260
So like the bundles of coins. It's like $1 ,700

00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:27.340
or $3 ,200. But the price of the thing is $1

00:43:27.340 --> 00:43:32.940
,900. So... if you bought 1700 it's not enough

00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:35.920
so you then have to buy 3200 in order to get

00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.199
something that's 19 or something like that um

00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.179
they got a bit critical but there's a concept

00:43:41.179 --> 00:43:44.239
and it's called dark something um where that

00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.500
that concept basically um but again yeah that

00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:51.380
person is right like it's still no um obligation

00:43:51.380 --> 00:43:54.159
like in the same like fortnite you can you can

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:55.440
play fortnite for something that's completely

00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.380
free yeah um The only difference being I don't

00:43:58.380 --> 00:43:59.719
know that there's any way you could sort of like

00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.760
earn the sort of paleo coins. I think it is purely

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.320
you have to buy them because obviously Fortnite

00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.780
you can earn an element of V -Bucks. Dreamlight

00:44:07.780 --> 00:44:12.400
you can earn Moonstones. So, and actually I like

00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.599
never bothered when they brought in the Dream

00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.980
Snaps, which is like a weekly contest where it's

00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:22.940
either an outfit or like a area that it will

00:44:22.940 --> 00:44:25.619
have a prompt and you... You design it, and then

00:44:25.619 --> 00:44:27.340
you take a photo, upload it, and everyone votes

00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:30.059
on it. And I never bothered. But actually, it's

00:44:30.059 --> 00:44:32.019
a fucking cracking way to get Moonstones. Because

00:44:32.019 --> 00:44:35.440
even if all you do is the tags that they're looking

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.079
for, you fulfill those tags, you'll get some.

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.960
Something, yeah. So that is actually way better.

00:44:42.219 --> 00:44:46.539
What did we work out? You've got like 150 -something

00:44:46.539 --> 00:44:49.519
quids worth of fucking Moonstones. Yeah. And

00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.960
you haven't bought them. No. Or not all of them?

00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:53.900
Some of them I've bought, yeah. But you got some

00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:55.400
with the bundles. Within bundles, yeah. But yeah,

00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.579
the majority of that. I can probably say that

00:44:57.579 --> 00:45:00.280
safely there's at least 100 quids worth of rhinestones

00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.780
there that you haven't bought. But that's where

00:45:02.780 --> 00:45:05.639
Gameloft, I think, have looked after us because

00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.340
obviously the entire concept of Dreamlight Valley

00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:10.639
initially was going to become a free -to -play

00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.039
game and you were buying the chance to be a guinea

00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.119
pig, basically. It was sort of like part and

00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.630
parcel of... like yeah you're going to help you

00:45:22.630 --> 00:45:24.750
know you're going to get bugs but that's the

00:45:24.750 --> 00:45:29.349
whole point basically um and what they did sort

00:45:29.349 --> 00:45:32.070
of do around that time they would just go look

00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:34.730
sorry guys here's whatever like they would give

00:45:34.730 --> 00:45:38.130
quite a lot yeah um and bearing in mind that

00:45:38.130 --> 00:45:41.070
everything that you can buy with moonstones is

00:45:41.070 --> 00:45:43.190
something that is like aesthetic it's an outfit

00:45:43.190 --> 00:45:46.010
it's a house style it's a outfit for a character

00:45:46.010 --> 00:45:50.829
whatever it's a pet they're quite good at just

00:45:50.829 --> 00:45:54.829
sort of going like oh like apologizing and making

00:45:54.829 --> 00:45:58.010
things right i found quite impressive yeah yeah

00:45:58.010 --> 00:46:01.349
it's being there was um the house style that

00:46:01.349 --> 00:46:04.510
they advertised in the trailer um for wish blossom

00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:08.090
which is the latest dlc when it got like delivered

00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:11.329
it was different and like out really out of proportion

00:46:11.329 --> 00:46:14.070
and yeah within days they'd like gone look well

00:46:14.070 --> 00:46:17.449
sorry here's and like everyone who'd pre -ordered

00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:19.840
it got to keep them both So even if it wasn't

00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.099
quite right, you still had it, but you could

00:46:22.099 --> 00:46:23.659
get the new one. It's always nice when there's

00:46:23.659 --> 00:46:28.579
something, when the player feedback is acknowledged.

00:46:28.780 --> 00:46:34.199
We had that with, on WoW, there's meta achievements

00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:40.260
that you can get for every expansion. And they're

00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.840
basically just really fucking hard achievements

00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:46.400
to get that take you all over the expansion.

00:46:48.139 --> 00:46:50.239
Very few people actually end up getting them.

00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:51.920
You usually get a mount at the end of it or a

00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.000
title or something. And it's just a long list

00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.659
of all these obscure things that you have to

00:46:57.659 --> 00:46:59.059
do. All these other achievements you have to

00:46:59.059 --> 00:47:01.800
get. And then you'll get the meta achievement.

00:47:02.539 --> 00:47:06.360
And there was one for Dragonflight. And the reward

00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.860
for it was a mount. And it was basically a big

00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:15.019
old dog. Looks like a Tibetan Mastiff almost.

00:47:15.219 --> 00:47:20.880
Big fucking... dog thing um and in the in the

00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.460
game when these aren't your mounts they're huge

00:47:23.460 --> 00:47:26.460
so then when the gay when the meta achievement

00:47:26.460 --> 00:47:28.219
come out and you could get the mount the mount

00:47:28.219 --> 00:47:30.739
itself was huge it was like two three times the

00:47:30.739 --> 00:47:32.920
size of a normal mount oh shit so you were still

00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.440
a normal size person riding this fucking huge

00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.719
dog thing and it looked sick um and everyone

00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.079
loved it but then for some reason blizzard scaled

00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.440
it down to the same size as every other mount

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.360
And everyone kicked off about it, even though

00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.059
there's such a small portion of people that had

00:47:49.059 --> 00:47:50.980
them out. Everyone kicked off because they were

00:47:50.980 --> 00:47:53.199
like, why? Why have you done that? There's no

00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.559
need to do that. And they reverted it because

00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:01.940
everyone complained. So it's like, here's your

00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:06.099
feedback. Listen. It's minute detail. We want

00:48:06.099 --> 00:48:08.480
you to change it. Change it back. They go, okay,

00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:10.960
let's fucking change it back. I don't know why

00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.230
they changed it in the first place. maybe to

00:48:14.230 --> 00:48:16.329
fit more aesthetically for them or fuck knows.

00:48:16.690 --> 00:48:19.690
But it's just nice when Blizzard's probably not

00:48:19.690 --> 00:48:24.150
a good company to use for that example of always

00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:28.289
listening to player feedback. But it's just nice

00:48:28.289 --> 00:48:31.329
when companies do listen to what their player

00:48:31.329 --> 00:48:33.230
base is saying, especially if it's from a game

00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:36.949
where they've had people pay to essentially be

00:48:36.949 --> 00:48:40.969
a beta tester. And yeah, a lot of people were

00:48:40.969 --> 00:48:45.739
quite... annoyed when they then doubled back

00:48:45.739 --> 00:48:47.000
on that and they were like actually we're going

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:53.039
to leave it as a as a paid game um because there

00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.940
was like there's always moonstones have always

00:48:55.940 --> 00:48:59.139
been there and it was i remember god if you go

00:48:59.139 --> 00:49:02.960
back in the pod episodes like you were waiting

00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.219
for it to be like to become you're waiting for

00:49:07.219 --> 00:49:09.820
that diablo immortal moment and you know where

00:49:09.820 --> 00:49:12.239
yeah all of a sudden this game that you've really

00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.400
been enjoying is now just going, pay me, come

00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.280
on, cough up. And obviously that didn't happen.

00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.480
And I do think that it is good. I do think it's

00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.739
a good thing that they've taken it in that direction.

00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:34.780
And the way that the bug reporting system is

00:49:34.780 --> 00:49:37.739
quite cool. You just scan a QR code on the page

00:49:37.739 --> 00:49:40.139
and... And it will even like list, the first

00:49:40.139 --> 00:49:41.960
thing it lists is go, right, here's the ones

00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.500
that we know about. So like when I was the slider

00:49:44.500 --> 00:49:46.719
with the daytime thing and like since the new

00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.960
update, you can't go backwards. And there they

00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.780
were like, yep, sorry, we know. Here's how a

00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:54.780
temporary way of getting around that. Nice. You

00:49:54.780 --> 00:49:56.199
know what I mean? Like that's quite, that's quite

00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.019
nice. They're not perfect. Like there are things

00:49:58.019 --> 00:50:00.880
that have been ongoing that still haven't been

00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:02.780
sort of looked at. I think you also get, you

00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:04.699
get a lot of people as well with those types

00:50:04.699 --> 00:50:08.900
of like Path of Exiles and other one. Star Citizen

00:50:08.900 --> 00:50:11.300
there's so many games out there where they're

00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:13.980
in early access but you have to pay to gain access

00:50:13.980 --> 00:50:17.860
to the early access where people will play those

00:50:17.860 --> 00:50:21.360
games and almost forget that they're early access

00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.019
and then kick off about those games and go this

00:50:24.019 --> 00:50:26.980
is shit because X Y and Z you go well you're

00:50:26.980 --> 00:50:32.599
a tester so tell them you've kind of got a job

00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.179
there you've kind of paid to sign yourself up

00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:41.070
to to be a tester so yes complain but you need

00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:44.190
to action your complaints if that's what the

00:50:44.190 --> 00:50:46.309
current state of the game is in your if you've

00:50:46.309 --> 00:50:47.929
got a problem you need to tell the developer

00:50:47.929 --> 00:50:50.070
it's your job to tell those developers this is

00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:52.130
what your problem is if you're just talking bollocks

00:50:52.130 --> 00:50:54.170
then you're just talking bollocks but if you

00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:57.230
have a genuine if you've come across something

00:50:57.230 --> 00:51:00.070
genuinely wrong and it's pissing you off then

00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:03.250
report it because that's what you're there for

00:51:03.250 --> 00:51:05.849
it's an early access game but the result i think

00:51:05.849 --> 00:51:09.849
of that can be people almost feel like they're

00:51:09.849 --> 00:51:12.449
then owed something like when it then exited

00:51:12.449 --> 00:51:16.550
early access it's like well what do i get yeah

00:51:16.550 --> 00:51:20.889
you know like because there were initial bundles

00:51:20.889 --> 00:51:24.050
with with the game you had the base game then

00:51:24.050 --> 00:51:26.389
you had like one up where you got a start amount

00:51:26.389 --> 00:51:28.570
of moonstones you got an outfit you got a pet

00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:31.920
whatever but then there was this third one that

00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:35.639
was probably maybe 60 or 70 quid. I can't remember.

00:51:35.739 --> 00:51:39.659
It's a long time ago now. But the outfit in that

00:51:39.659 --> 00:51:42.099
one has never come around again. And yeah, there's

00:51:42.099 --> 00:51:44.219
people that really cling on to that, that we

00:51:44.219 --> 00:51:48.099
should have been given that. But you're not really

00:51:48.099 --> 00:51:50.460
owed anything, ultimately. What you usually see

00:51:50.460 --> 00:51:54.639
is, here's a game, here's early access, 20 quid,

00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.860
and you can have access to the entire game and

00:51:56.860 --> 00:52:00.960
when it fully releases. be warned you're playing

00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.400
an early access game up until that point and

00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.559
then when the game fully releases oh the game's

00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.099
45 quid but you've already paid a 20 so you you

00:52:09.099 --> 00:52:12.619
have the game oh yeah so it's like that's that's

00:52:12.619 --> 00:52:15.500
usually your reward for doing that is you've

00:52:15.500 --> 00:52:17.519
had early access you've had access to a game

00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:19.500
two years prior to its release but then when

00:52:19.500 --> 00:52:22.079
it's fully released you don't pay anything else

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.280
it was going to be a free to play it was all

00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.940
going to change there was there was things that

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.800
were in place that then didn't occur But I mean,

00:52:28.820 --> 00:52:30.940
I'm of the mind of like, I don't really care.

00:52:31.099 --> 00:52:33.280
But is it, do you still pay the same as what

00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:37.340
you did beforehand? What do you mean? If I was

00:52:37.340 --> 00:52:41.340
to go and buy a Dreamluck Valley now, would I

00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:44.659
be paying the same as what you've paid? Potentially.

00:52:44.659 --> 00:52:47.260
They do a hell of a lot of sales. Yeah, I think

00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:48.860
you can pick it up. I don't even know what the,

00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:50.840
because that's the killer. It doesn't show you

00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.139
once you own it. I feel like I couldn't tell

00:52:53.139 --> 00:52:55.360
you what it costs on. It'll be on Steam anyway,

00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.280
won't it? Yeah, have a look. It's currently,

00:52:58.529 --> 00:53:02.750
£23 on Steam, but usually it's £33 .50. Yeah,

00:53:02.809 --> 00:53:04.889
so that's probably... It probably was about £20

00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:07.429
what I paid. Hang on. Let me see if I can find

00:53:07.429 --> 00:53:15.630
what I paid. One second. I don't know why the

00:53:15.630 --> 00:53:17.789
PlayStation app does that. If you buy something

00:53:17.789 --> 00:53:19.269
and then you can just never see what you paid

00:53:19.269 --> 00:53:21.789
for it ever again. Oh, well, Thingy does it as

00:53:21.789 --> 00:53:26.329
well. Nintendo. What did I buy? Oh, my God. I

00:53:26.329 --> 00:53:29.019
bought 1 ,200 Moonstones one time. No way. I

00:53:29.019 --> 00:53:30.880
don't remember doing that. You fickle, fickle

00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.519
woman. Oh, slag. What did I buy here? Pay to

00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.420
win. Gold edition. What did I get? Oh, no, I

00:53:38.420 --> 00:53:40.280
didn't pay. I didn't pay for those Moonstones.

00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:41.920
It was included on the Moonstones. Oh, right.

00:53:42.099 --> 00:53:45.559
But that's how it worked out. I paid £40. But

00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.019
that was for the gold edition, so I think that

00:53:49.019 --> 00:53:54.099
was the second tier where you got stuff. Fair

00:53:54.099 --> 00:53:57.670
enough. Although that doesn't look right because

00:53:57.670 --> 00:54:02.289
that's saying February 24, which I played it

00:54:02.289 --> 00:54:07.530
before that. August 2023. Disney Dreamlight Valley.

00:54:08.329 --> 00:54:10.250
Well, we'll leave it. Yeah, that's why it's really,

00:54:10.269 --> 00:54:13.309
really boring to listen to. We'll leave it and

00:54:13.309 --> 00:54:18.429
we'll call it there. Oh, okay. Thanks for my

00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:19.989
ramblings. I couldn't even summarise what we've

00:54:19.989 --> 00:54:23.849
spoken about this episode. Jesus. The title for

00:54:23.849 --> 00:54:26.130
this episode looks a bit weird because I don't

00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:29.309
know what the fuck it's supposed to title is.

00:54:29.710 --> 00:54:32.969
Everything. New Year. All right, Conrad. Everything.

00:54:33.269 --> 00:54:37.130
Everything. That's a little revenge nugget there.

00:54:37.230 --> 00:54:40.269
If anyone's a Conrad Grayson fan, let us know.

00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:45.389
Thank you. Thanks. See you later, everyone. Ooroo.

00:54:45.710 --> 00:54:46.250
Ooroo.