WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.200 Merry Christmas, podcasters, listeners. Hello, 00:00:04.259 --> 00:00:09.859 you fucking maggots. There it is. I've got a 00:00:09.859 --> 00:00:12.419 ginger monkey in the pod room. It's your favourite 00:00:12.419 --> 00:00:15.679 depressed ginger. Oh, he's here. Me. You know 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:20.559 what he's got. That was fizzy. Can of the white 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:26.140 stuff. Oh, God, mummy. Bit of ASMR for everyone. 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.920 Anything to keep it going. people's going on 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:33.600 this podcast got all in my beard big one straight 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.399 into it game of the year awards the actual game 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:39.359 of the year awards not the joystick ones this 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.240 is the real game of the year awards have you 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.899 seen much on it not at all I've only seen the 00:00:45.899 --> 00:00:48.820 joystick ones that Claire Obscura got well that's 00:00:48.820 --> 00:00:51.659 fantastic because allow me to go through the 00:00:51.659 --> 00:00:56.219 categories so game of the year the winner of 00:00:56.219 --> 00:01:00.289 that Claire Obscure Expedition 33. Not surprised. 00:01:00.289 --> 00:01:03.990 Expected and earned. Best Game Direction Claire 00:01:03.990 --> 00:01:07.629 Obscure Expedition 33. Of course. Best Narrative 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:11.409 Claire Obscure Expedition 33. Is it going to 00:01:11.409 --> 00:01:13.609 be across the board is it? Best Art Direction 00:01:13.609 --> 00:01:19.329 Claire Obscure Expedition 33. We've then got 00:01:19.329 --> 00:01:21.969 Best Performance is Jennifer English in Claire 00:01:21.969 --> 00:01:27.079 Obscure Expedition 33. Wasn't that the best independent 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.819 game Claire Obscure Expedition 33 best debut 00:01:30.819 --> 00:01:34.900 indie game Claire Obscure Expedition 33 yeah 00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:35.939 I was going to say that Jennifer English has 00:01:35.939 --> 00:01:37.519 done well for herself because she was in Baldur's 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:39.719 Gate as Shadow Hearts can you guess what the 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:44.219 best RPG was Claire Obscure it was it was Claire 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:47.319 Obscure Expedition 33 let me take a guess yeah 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.719 yeah that was so they so they won the majority 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:54.980 of stuff we've then got let's have a look is 00:01:54.980 --> 00:01:58.859 there anything else left? There is. Best score 00:01:58.859 --> 00:02:02.459 and music. Okay. Oh, no, sorry. That's Claire 00:02:02.459 --> 00:02:05.799 of Europe. Not Claire of Europe? Sorry, I missed 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:07.859 that one out. Best audio designs, Battlefield 00:02:07.859 --> 00:02:11.719 6, which is quite cool. I actually, when me and 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:15.139 Ash went through and picked our choices, I actually 00:02:15.139 --> 00:02:18.060 picked Battlefield 6 for sound design because 00:02:18.060 --> 00:02:20.599 when you play it with a headset on, it's just 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:22.699 so crisp. That surround sound effect, yeah. Yeah, 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:27.620 it's so nice. Innovation in Accessibility, Doom, 00:02:27.699 --> 00:02:30.780 The Dark Ages. Yes, I can understand that one. 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.860 Games for Impact, South of Midnight. Won that. 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.740 Best Ongoing Game, which I'm happy about, is 00:02:37.740 --> 00:02:42.000 No Man's Sky. Still. Still. Still. And that went 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:48.199 up against Final Fantasy... What's XIV? XIV... 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:52.439 14. 14. Fortnite, Helldivers 2 and Marvel Rivals. 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.419 So I feel like out of that, Bunch, No Man's Sky. 00:02:56.659 --> 00:02:57.960 When did Clear Obscura come out? It was quite 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.699 the middle of the year. I know that, but in terms 00:03:00.699 --> 00:03:07.919 of month. Clear Obscura. So it came out in... 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:14.310 April, late April. Okay. Yeah, it's a decent 00:03:14.310 --> 00:03:15.650 one. Because I think sometimes games, if they're 00:03:15.650 --> 00:03:17.389 out longer, have got the benefit of the fact 00:03:17.389 --> 00:03:20.110 that they're much loved through the year versus 00:03:20.110 --> 00:03:21.909 a game that comes out now and you go, right, 00:03:22.030 --> 00:03:24.389 well, you've got bad competition. I think the 00:03:24.389 --> 00:03:27.229 thing with... Because people threw that argument 00:03:27.229 --> 00:03:30.189 out there and said exactly that. It came out 00:03:30.189 --> 00:03:31.770 earlier on, so it's going to be more popular. 00:03:32.250 --> 00:03:34.389 I do genuinely believe that... Game of the Year's 00:03:34.389 --> 00:03:37.789 Shadow of the Earth Tree, again. Yeah. The thing 00:03:37.789 --> 00:03:41.330 is that I believe that the awards that Claire 00:03:41.330 --> 00:03:44.360 Obscura has won, wholeheartedly deserves have 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:49.000 you played it you would love it I know you I'm 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.479 a little bit on the fence with it because I know 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.400 I probably would enjoy it but I feel like I probably 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.280 would get tired of it quick if that makes sense 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.840 I don't think you would I don't fucking French 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.139 though I don't think you would I really don't 00:04:01.139 --> 00:04:05.819 because the story is incredible and the the combat 00:04:05.819 --> 00:04:10.159 is so satisfying but the the builds that you 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.460 can create are so crazy so you you you're not 00:04:13.460 --> 00:04:15.960 stuck it's turn -based isn't it it's all turn 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.720 -based the whole thing is turn -based but i'm 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.759 i'm a man that doesn't like that type of game 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.500 or at least i didn't think that i would um and 00:04:24.500 --> 00:04:28.819 yeah incredible game like i say the the story 00:04:28.819 --> 00:04:32.959 is just so fucking good so good um and the exploration 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.860 and all that It's meant to all the little mini 00:04:35.860 --> 00:04:39.220 side games and quirks. Don't give me another 00:04:39.220 --> 00:04:42.000 big game. I can't handle it. It's so fucking 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.699 worth it. I've got so many. It's so worth it. 00:04:44.779 --> 00:04:48.220 If you haven't played it, I really, really, really 00:04:48.220 --> 00:04:50.680 recommend it. It's one of those types of games 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:55.079 where I feel like in 10 years' time, you'll mention 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.860 Claire Obscure Expedition 33 to someone if they're 00:04:58.860 --> 00:05:02.199 new to gaming or they haven't heard it, and they'll 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.389 go, what is that? that just sounds weird and 00:05:05.389 --> 00:05:08.990 you'll sit there and you go oh boy oh boy much 00:05:08.990 --> 00:05:10.829 like if you go to someone that's never played 00:05:10.829 --> 00:05:13.810 a Souls like and you go Dark Souls 2 Dark Souls 00:05:13.810 --> 00:05:17.389 3 Bloodborne and people go what's the hype about 00:05:17.389 --> 00:05:21.810 them it's probably it's probably how I feel with 00:05:21.810 --> 00:05:26.889 maybe like the Silent Hill franchise I've never 00:05:26.889 --> 00:05:31.329 played it or like Crisis Fucking Crysis, man. 00:05:31.449 --> 00:05:33.410 Yeah. I've never played it. I haven't played 00:05:33.410 --> 00:05:34.949 it. That's a throwback. But I know that it's 00:05:34.949 --> 00:05:38.230 meant to be incredible, but I haven't touched 00:05:38.230 --> 00:05:42.250 it. I played a little bit of Crysis 3, but Crysis 00:05:42.250 --> 00:05:45.730 was a computer slash console breaker back in 00:05:45.730 --> 00:05:48.810 the day. It's one of them. Claire Obscure is 00:05:48.810 --> 00:05:52.110 one of those niche games that isn't niche at 00:05:52.110 --> 00:05:54.250 the same time, but it is because it is so fucking 00:05:54.250 --> 00:05:59.850 niche. It's a really... different type of game 00:05:59.850 --> 00:06:01.930 that I'm used to playing. I bet it's really expensive, 00:06:02.089 --> 00:06:05.850 aren't they? And it's so fucking good. So good. 00:06:07.509 --> 00:06:12.990 Where is it? Where is Steve on my phone? Oh, 00:06:13.009 --> 00:06:15.850 well, you want to fucking see how much it's going 00:06:15.850 --> 00:06:19.449 to set you back? It's probably fairly pricey 00:06:19.449 --> 00:06:21.990 at the minute, I imagine. Probably. There'll 00:06:21.990 --> 00:06:26.490 be a Game of the Year edition. I'm happy at the 00:06:26.490 --> 00:06:28.129 fact that it's an indie game as well. I'm even 00:06:28.129 --> 00:06:30.589 more happy that the development team are ex -Ubisoft 00:06:30.589 --> 00:06:36.430 employees. I love that. Ex -Ubisoft and they've 00:06:36.430 --> 00:06:39.089 just gone and absolutely wiped the floor. I just 00:06:39.089 --> 00:06:40.730 pulled up Steam now and they've got the game 00:06:40.730 --> 00:06:42.870 awards there and it's annoying because scrolling 00:06:42.870 --> 00:06:45.110 down you go the 2025 winner is obviously Battlefield 00:06:45.110 --> 00:06:48.509 6. Guess what? It's the second game on the list. 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.019 I don't know what the nominations aspect of this 00:06:52.019 --> 00:06:57.100 is, but it's obviously Steam's kind of version 00:06:57.100 --> 00:07:01.360 of it. Yeah. The second game to come up on is 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.959 Last of Us Part II Remastered. Of course it is. 00:07:04.259 --> 00:07:09.220 Of course it fucking is. Of course it is. Yeah, 00:07:09.259 --> 00:07:12.160 I don't really know what the criteria for them 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:16.040 is. Claire Obscure is £33 .59 at the moment. 00:07:16.350 --> 00:07:18.689 That's not actually offensive. Reduced from 41. 00:07:18.990 --> 00:07:21.970 Yeah, because it wasn't a full price. A full 00:07:21.970 --> 00:07:25.449 super release. Yeah, because it almost couldn't 00:07:25.449 --> 00:07:27.290 be. There we go. It was pretty much a straight 00:07:27.290 --> 00:07:31.069 away. It almost couldn't be because you're a 00:07:31.069 --> 00:07:35.610 small, very, very small indie developer. Sandfall 00:07:35.610 --> 00:07:38.649 Interactive. That's creating a game, like I say, 00:07:38.730 --> 00:07:43.350 isn't the typical... There you go, 97. Well, 00:07:43.449 --> 00:07:47.100 overwhelmingly positive, 97%. Yeah. Those 80 00:07:47.100 --> 00:07:51.480 ,000 reviews. Nearly 82 ,000 reviews. Yeah. 25 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.339 ,000 overwhelmingly positive recent reviews. 00:07:56.019 --> 00:08:01.560 It's... I can't... Here we go. Claire Obscure 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.579 feels like one of those games that shouldn't 00:08:03.579 --> 00:08:05.959 exist but somehow does because a bunch of passionate 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.459 weirdos decided, yeah, why not? The dev story 00:08:08.459 --> 00:08:11.300 alone is wild. A French dude who speedruns Sekiro 00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:14.060 gets tired of his job at Ubisoft and just quits 00:08:14.060 --> 00:08:17.370 to make his dream game. He calls his old university 00:08:17.370 --> 00:08:19.750 buddy who ends up becoming the lead tech. He 00:08:19.750 --> 00:08:22.370 finds a musician on SoundCloud who makes the 00:08:22.370 --> 00:08:25.649 entire OST. He finds a girl on Reddit who agrees 00:08:25.649 --> 00:08:28.050 to voice the demo for free and she eventually 00:08:28.050 --> 00:08:31.009 becomes the lead writer. They then hire like 00:08:31.009 --> 00:08:33.889 30 fresh grads who are all in over their heads 00:08:33.889 --> 00:08:35.549 but clearly giving it everything they've got 00:08:35.549 --> 00:08:40.299 and member. Number 33, a dog, literally credited 00:08:40.299 --> 00:08:42.940 as the happiness manager in the end credits. 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:45.279 And the crazy part is the game actually turned 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.059 out great, stylish, unique, full of heart, exactly 00:08:48.059 --> 00:08:51.480 the kind of thing you get when people make something 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.639 because they want to, not because some exec told 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:55.980 them to. Claire Obscure is a win for gamers and 00:08:55.980 --> 00:08:58.980 a big, beautiful middle finger to AAA companies 00:08:58.980 --> 00:09:02.059 that fill their games with garbage and microtransactions. 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.399 I stand by every single word in that review and 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.129 they've got 60 hours. on record so they're within 00:09:08.129 --> 00:09:10.429 their right to say that sort of stuff that it's 00:09:10.429 --> 00:09:15.870 it's there seems to be a running everyone likes 00:09:15.870 --> 00:09:19.370 a David and Goliath story and everyone always 00:09:19.370 --> 00:09:22.909 goes for David you always want to back the underdog 00:09:22.909 --> 00:09:26.509 everyone does I do it in my own games I do it 00:09:26.509 --> 00:09:29.769 in life you always you never want to go with 00:09:29.769 --> 00:09:33.570 the fucking big big teams with the big developers 00:09:33.570 --> 00:09:36.070 because no one's putting out anything good Well, 00:09:36.110 --> 00:09:38.149 even then, I think this year there's been some 00:09:38.149 --> 00:09:41.230 real decent stuff. And then if you see what's 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:44.110 meant to be coming out next year, yeah, we've 00:09:44.110 --> 00:09:48.090 had some woeful years. The tide seems to be turning. 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:49.629 We're actually getting some half -decent shit 00:09:49.629 --> 00:09:51.690 coming through, especially next year. There's 00:09:51.690 --> 00:09:53.009 some really cool stuff that's been announced. 00:09:53.350 --> 00:09:56.950 But there's nothing better than an indie game, 00:09:57.129 --> 00:10:00.480 an indie developer. absolutely fucking wiping 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.580 the floor with everyone. Larian Studios did it. 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.100 I know that they're a big indie company, but 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:07.200 they're still indie. You know what I mean? And 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.019 then now you've got Claire Obscure. Most of my 00:10:10.019 --> 00:10:12.019 favourite games in the last couple of years have 00:10:12.019 --> 00:10:14.580 been indie games. Yeah. And I love that because 00:10:14.580 --> 00:10:17.440 they deserve that. And it's... Well, the last 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.919 game I was playing was the indie game. I played 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:23.860 Dispatch 3. from top to bottom yeah yeah the 00:10:23.860 --> 00:10:26.700 new generation of telltale games yeah yeah it's 00:10:26.700 --> 00:10:28.779 technically indie even though it's got big backing 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:32.299 but that's a very small they were like what was 00:10:32.299 --> 00:10:36.960 it they sold their three year margin in like 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:40.350 two weeks yeah Yeah, because it's like what this, 00:10:40.429 --> 00:10:42.649 Claire Obscura is a win for gamers and blah, 00:10:42.730 --> 00:10:45.389 blah, blah. Big middle fingers, AAA companies 00:10:45.389 --> 00:10:48.330 that fill their games. And then, yeah, exactly 00:10:48.330 --> 00:10:50.149 the kind of thing you get when people make something 00:10:50.149 --> 00:10:52.250 because they want to, not because some exec told 00:10:52.250 --> 00:10:55.250 them to. And I've said that on the podcast multiple 00:10:55.250 --> 00:11:00.669 times in that when you get people who make something, 00:11:00.809 --> 00:11:04.070 and this is in regards to anything, when anyone 00:11:04.070 --> 00:11:08.730 does something that they love doing, it's almost 00:11:08.730 --> 00:11:11.149 always better than someone who's being forced 00:11:11.149 --> 00:11:12.990 to do it. If you're really good at something, 00:11:13.090 --> 00:11:15.269 but you don't like it and you're being forced 00:11:15.269 --> 00:11:17.330 to do it. It's funny you say that. I look forward 00:11:17.330 --> 00:11:20.509 and see your one ring desk lamp thing. Cause 00:11:20.509 --> 00:11:22.590 that's like, someone said that about Lord of 00:11:22.590 --> 00:11:25.350 the Rings and said, why is that the last big 00:11:25.350 --> 00:11:29.629 major, like fantastic trilogy? Because I loved 00:11:29.629 --> 00:11:31.230 making it. Because it was a passion project. 00:11:31.309 --> 00:11:34.289 Yeah. It wasn't about anything else. It wasn't 00:11:34.289 --> 00:11:37.649 about the money. They were taking risks. They 00:11:37.649 --> 00:11:41.610 were following law. Most of the games that are 00:11:41.610 --> 00:11:44.549 incredible now are games that are like that. 00:11:44.610 --> 00:11:48.269 You're in such a cluttered market that you have 00:11:48.269 --> 00:11:49.789 to come up with something unique. Let's have 00:11:49.789 --> 00:11:52.750 another extraction shooter. Yeah, fucking hell. 00:11:52.809 --> 00:11:55.669 I understand something like Ark Raiders. Mega, 00:11:55.730 --> 00:11:59.169 mega popular. Mega popular. But it's different. 00:11:59.289 --> 00:12:02.570 It's enjoyable. Something like Call of Duty. 00:12:03.409 --> 00:12:06.529 I mean, it's almost soulless and boring. Even 00:12:06.529 --> 00:12:08.570 Battlefield 6 to a point. I haven't played Battlefield 00:12:08.570 --> 00:12:10.769 6 for fucking... I didn't even bother. For a 00:12:10.769 --> 00:12:12.909 long, long time. That's nothing against the game, 00:12:12.950 --> 00:12:16.210 but I'm just... It's the type of game I should 00:12:16.210 --> 00:12:18.690 love because it brings me back mad nostalgia 00:12:18.690 --> 00:12:21.789 to when I was a kid. Or not even a kid, but when 00:12:21.789 --> 00:12:25.590 I was much younger and playing like Bad Company 00:12:25.590 --> 00:12:29.029 2 with my best mates from then. And that would 00:12:29.029 --> 00:12:31.730 be like every night. Again and again. All weekend 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:35.809 long. Whatever, whatever. And the fun we had 00:12:35.809 --> 00:12:38.730 in that. And then you come some years later and 00:12:38.730 --> 00:12:40.450 you go, you haven't touched one since Battlefield 00:12:40.450 --> 00:12:43.809 3. Didn't touch the fucking future one. Didn't 00:12:43.809 --> 00:12:48.990 touch 4. Barely touched the World War 1 one. 00:12:49.750 --> 00:12:54.000 Battlefield 1. Not really that. And even now, 00:12:54.019 --> 00:12:56.240 you go, oh, six has come out. You go, I'm not 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.779 interested. I think it's because... Not interested, 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:00.940 but it doesn't bring back the same... I think 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:02.220 it's because we're just not in the multiplayer 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:04.100 scene. Yeah, it doesn't bring back that nostalgia 00:13:04.100 --> 00:13:05.899 anymore. First -person shooter. It's a very good 00:13:05.899 --> 00:13:08.279 game. I really do enjoy it, but chances of me 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:12.120 playing it again are quite slim because I'm more 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:13.960 interested in other things, but it is... That's 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.919 why I like this badge. When I decided to play 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.639 that however long ago, probably a month ago. 00:13:20.509 --> 00:13:22.309 And it was the only annoying part of it was it 00:13:22.309 --> 00:13:25.090 was episodic. So it was X amount of episodes 00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:26.970 were out and then you had to wait a week for 00:13:26.970 --> 00:13:29.470 the next one to come out. Yeah, but I kind of 00:13:29.470 --> 00:13:31.309 like that as well. That was nice because it strung 00:13:31.309 --> 00:13:33.269 it out a little bit. Yeah. But it was easy to 00:13:33.269 --> 00:13:38.570 pick up and not like... Overwhelmingly positive 00:13:38.570 --> 00:13:46.330 with 91 ,500 reviews. Excellent. So long as it's 00:13:46.330 --> 00:13:48.330 a different style again because it's, you know... 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.299 like interactive novel but there's a mini game 00:13:52.299 --> 00:13:55.419 aspect to multiple parts of it superhero workplace 00:13:55.419 --> 00:13:58.840 comedy where choices matter manage a dysfunctional 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.840 team of misfit heroes and strategize who to send 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.559 to emergencies around the city all while balancing 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.279 office politics personal relationships and your 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.620 own quest to become a hero all episodes out now 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:13.879 it looks good it looks enjoyable and and but 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:17.340 this this is what i'm saying in in those those 00:14:17.340 --> 00:14:20.769 little indie Well, they've come from much like 00:14:20.769 --> 00:14:23.610 Claire Obscura's lots come from Ubisoft. A lot 00:14:23.610 --> 00:14:26.750 of the people who've made Dispatch ad hoc, they're 00:14:26.750 --> 00:14:30.669 all Telltale. And obviously where Telltale, I 00:14:30.669 --> 00:14:33.149 don't really know why the reason for their downfall 00:14:33.149 --> 00:14:35.710 was, but the quality of their work wasn't as 00:14:35.710 --> 00:14:37.970 good gradually because they were picking different 00:14:37.970 --> 00:14:42.090 topics. But where there was a lot of layoff, 00:14:42.289 --> 00:14:44.409 obviously they've turned around and gone, okay, 00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:46.809 well, should we make our own company then? And 00:14:46.809 --> 00:14:49.889 then take... If you like things like Invincible 00:14:49.889 --> 00:14:54.889 on Amazon or if you're into the comics, there's 00:14:54.889 --> 00:14:57.389 a similar sort of ness of that to it. The art 00:14:57.389 --> 00:14:59.629 style is kind of similar. But again, it's another 00:14:59.629 --> 00:15:02.909 indie group that have made a fantastic game and 00:15:02.909 --> 00:15:04.809 everyone was screaming out going, oh, season 00:15:04.809 --> 00:15:07.549 two, please. I just find it mad that you've got 00:15:07.549 --> 00:15:13.889 small indie companies where everything's on the 00:15:13.889 --> 00:15:16.490 line for these people. Everything. They have 00:15:16.490 --> 00:15:19.789 virtually no money, majority of the time, and 00:15:19.789 --> 00:15:23.090 rely on crowdfunding. It's funny you say that, 00:15:23.190 --> 00:15:26.549 because I think Larian now, after making Baldur's 00:15:26.549 --> 00:15:30.529 Gate, and their original game, Divinity Series, 00:15:30.929 --> 00:15:35.149 Original Sin, and Original Sin 2, were kickstarted. 00:15:35.210 --> 00:15:38.950 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now, number three has just 00:15:38.950 --> 00:15:41.649 been announced. With a cool -ass fucking trailer 00:15:41.649 --> 00:15:44.759 of a geyser being melted alive. Yeah. Bloody 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.379 and gory. That gives us a little bit. If I thought 00:15:47.379 --> 00:15:48.899 about it as I was just watching it, because I 00:15:48.899 --> 00:15:50.600 hadn't seen it while we were at work, but I saw 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:55.879 it just now, and it made me think of a throwback 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:57.940 to the second game. There is a moment where there 00:15:57.940 --> 00:16:00.259 is an aspect that is very much like that. So 00:16:00.259 --> 00:16:02.539 they're kind of interesting to see a little bit 00:16:02.539 --> 00:16:05.500 of a tie -in, which is obviously relevant. That 00:16:05.500 --> 00:16:08.440 was good. Which is obviously relevant. And it's 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.220 weird because I can't really remember what the 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:12.139 fuck Divinity was meant to be about. Obviously, 00:16:12.139 --> 00:16:14.940 I've never played either of them. But it's nice 00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:19.460 to see that they're not milking the cash cow 00:16:19.460 --> 00:16:23.039 that is Baldur's Gate. And going back to... The 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:28.639 irony of it is, you know, Sven, the managing 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.500 director of Larian, turned around and said their 00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:34.759 next game would be like a little palate cleanser. 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.990 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's actually, no, let's 00:16:37.990 --> 00:16:41.870 bring us back to our original IP and try and 00:16:41.870 --> 00:16:45.309 make it bigger than Baldur's Gate. Yeah, I think 00:16:45.309 --> 00:16:48.970 it'll be very, very good. I just don't want another 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:52.190 four years worth of early access. As much as 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:55.029 that will be good. I don't know if I can handle... 00:16:55.029 --> 00:17:00.590 Back to what I was saying in that for indie developers, 00:17:00.889 --> 00:17:04.190 it's so risky. And I've spoken about it before 00:17:04.190 --> 00:17:08.210 where I say that almost... That almost encourages 00:17:08.210 --> 00:17:11.509 the risk taking because you go, right, we've 00:17:11.509 --> 00:17:13.769 got very little resources here, but we need to 00:17:13.769 --> 00:17:15.990 make something that people are going to be engaged 00:17:15.990 --> 00:17:18.250 with and want to spend money on. So therefore, 00:17:18.410 --> 00:17:21.210 we need to take the risk. We need to make something 00:17:21.210 --> 00:17:23.650 crazy. I think if they put their heart on the 00:17:23.650 --> 00:17:28.019 line and then it works out. is a better return 00:17:28.019 --> 00:17:29.779 than trying to play it safe and make something 00:17:29.779 --> 00:17:31.579 that's very similar to everything else. And a 00:17:31.579 --> 00:17:33.319 lot of the times it doesn't work out, but for 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.519 the few times that it does, it's usually incredible. 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.339 I feel like that's the way it's been more and 00:17:38.339 --> 00:17:41.180 more recently. You get like fad games where you 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:43.500 go, well, like Lethal Company, you play that 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:46.980 for a little bit, or like Repo, or Among Us, 00:17:47.059 --> 00:17:50.619 all those kind of games that have got hype for 00:17:50.619 --> 00:17:53.640 a bit, but then even then, they stand out for 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:55.940 a little while. They stand out long enough for 00:17:55.940 --> 00:17:58.579 the developer to get their flowers, to make the 00:17:58.579 --> 00:18:00.519 money that they wanted to make, to enable them 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.660 to carry on and build a career out of it. The 00:18:03.660 --> 00:18:06.000 point I'm trying to make is you have all these 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.359 AAA studios. Yeah, why the fuck can't these big 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.240 names do it? Why can't they see that? Because 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.980 it's not the developers that are the problem. 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:15.480 I don't believe it's the developers that are 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.259 the problem most of the time because they have 00:18:18.259 --> 00:18:21.259 a passion for gaming. Making games isn't easy. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.579 There's a lot of blood, sweat and tears that 00:18:23.579 --> 00:18:26.920 goes into it and countless hours to get a game 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:32.839 to where the games that we play are. I think 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.240 it's just corporate greed, but I don't understand 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.599 why corporate greed can't understand what the 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:43.880 market wants. Will that change though? I don't 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:45.400 know. But then there's part of me that thinks 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.079 it would change because we're, not to say we're 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.309 the generation, but we're in that. heavy period 00:18:52.309 --> 00:18:56.890 of the old guard and the people that don't understand 00:18:56.890 --> 00:18:58.890 that kind of thing who are the big men in money 00:18:58.890 --> 00:19:02.529 you know the big directors and the you you man 00:19:02.529 --> 00:19:05.690 donald trump and all that lot that you know the 00:19:05.690 --> 00:19:09.670 70 year olds in power all that lot that you know 00:19:09.670 --> 00:19:13.380 the big wigs in the office that I've got to be 00:19:13.380 --> 00:19:15.420 the older generation that don't understand video 00:19:15.420 --> 00:19:18.119 games but understand money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:19:18.339 --> 00:19:20.920 Money, money, money. That gradually as we phase 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:22.740 them out and they're replaced by people like, 00:19:22.779 --> 00:19:25.859 you know, our age. Neil Druckmann. A little bit 00:19:25.859 --> 00:19:28.779 older, like, you know, that they've actually 00:19:28.779 --> 00:19:30.720 got a love and a passion for making the games 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.920 that they would see it as, oh, we can be happy 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.299 with not making as much money so long as we make 00:19:37.299 --> 00:19:40.740 a good product. Yeah, which is... IE fucking 00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:43.930 old Gaben. From fucking Steam. But in turn, you 00:19:43.930 --> 00:19:46.769 end up making a fucking fortune. How much money 00:19:46.769 --> 00:19:49.829 did Baldur's Gate fucking make? Let me Google 00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:55.730 that. Silly amounts. How much money? I read something 00:19:55.730 --> 00:19:59.049 the other day saying that I forget what group 00:19:59.049 --> 00:20:01.269 it was. I don't know if it was Ubisoft. I don't 00:20:01.269 --> 00:20:03.750 know if it was EA. But they were saying that 00:20:03.750 --> 00:20:09.390 the average employee was making like $150 ,000. 00:20:10.940 --> 00:20:14.039 And the guy in charge of it was making 200 % 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:17.859 more than them. Standard, of course. And you 00:20:17.859 --> 00:20:20.759 didn't think, just cut that fucker out. And then 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:22.779 you go, right, reinvest that money in making 00:20:22.779 --> 00:20:29.259 a game fucking worthwhile. So this isn't even 00:20:29.259 --> 00:20:32.779 the fucking... It isn't even the sum total of 00:20:32.779 --> 00:20:36.859 it. No. So it says Baldur's Gate 3 was a massive 00:20:36.859 --> 00:20:40.710 financial success. generating over $650 million 00:20:40.710 --> 00:20:46.690 in in -2023 revenue from Steam alone, becoming 00:20:46.690 --> 00:20:49.170 the platform's top -grossing new release, with 00:20:49.170 --> 00:20:53.730 Larian Studios supporting €427 million in total 00:20:53.730 --> 00:20:58.170 revenue and €249 million in pre -tax profit for 00:20:58.170 --> 00:21:02.670 the year. Hasbro also received around €90 million 00:21:02.670 --> 00:21:04.950 from the game's licensing deal, but this was 00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:13.650 just in... uh 2023 yeah across all platforms 00:21:13.650 --> 00:21:16.769 because because obviously you've got playstation 00:21:16.769 --> 00:21:21.690 you've got xbox you've got so um hasn't released 00:21:21.690 --> 00:21:26.349 uh exact total revenue that's 2023 uh blah blah 00:21:26.349 --> 00:21:30.769 and roughly 15 million copies sold by late 2024 00:21:30.769 --> 00:21:33.940 with some speculating figures might approach 00:21:33.940 --> 00:21:37.039 or cross one billion dollars in total earnings 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.779 across all platforms by early 2024 so i feel 00:21:40.779 --> 00:21:42.039 like you could quite comfortably say they've 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:45.500 made over a billion dollars from from boulders 00:21:45.500 --> 00:21:47.519 so you sit there and you go all right okay again 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.539 i know they're a big indie company but they're 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:50.980 still technically an indie company and you go 00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:53.920 okay they've they've taken that leap done what 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.059 they've done and you've made over a billion dollars 00:21:57.059 --> 00:22:01.809 and we'll continue to make money on that So it's 00:22:01.809 --> 00:22:04.009 like, why as an exec would you sit there and 00:22:04.009 --> 00:22:07.190 go, well, why not? We need to make the risks. 00:22:07.990 --> 00:22:10.470 You look at the position that EA's in. Shit. 00:22:11.869 --> 00:22:19.950 Ubisoft. Shit. Even Insomniac to a point. Waff. 00:22:21.769 --> 00:22:24.470 That's the next interesting part. That was what 00:22:24.470 --> 00:22:26.529 I was trying to figure out. Because Baldur's 00:22:26.529 --> 00:22:30.049 Gate 3, Larian is the developer and the publisher. 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.140 In both parts. So that saved them a lot of faff. 00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:37.839 Yeah, a lot of aggro. Because it's always publishers. 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.279 You've got all these big, big hitters where it 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:44.500 is. What fucking Bethesda? They're not doing 00:22:44.500 --> 00:22:48.299 anything. Bioware. Yeah. Or to be fair, there 00:22:48.299 --> 00:22:53.440 was that latest announcement for Star Wars that 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.440 you sent me earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. lead director 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:02.019 on it casey hudson he is uh he did the mass effect 00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:05.220 and we did the mass effect trilogy and he did 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:12.140 the last old republic stuff so there's some promise 00:23:12.140 --> 00:23:17.279 he's promising i don't have the license yeah 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.460 that but it would just be interesting to know 00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:21.980 if it follows that same pattern where it gets 00:23:21.980 --> 00:23:25.390 hindered by big wigs or publishers and turning 00:23:25.390 --> 00:23:26.950 around and going, oh, we've got to pump this 00:23:26.950 --> 00:23:29.950 game out or we've got to include fucking something 00:23:29.950 --> 00:23:33.049 that's going to gimp it. Not to say it'd be like 00:23:33.049 --> 00:23:34.710 microtransactions because I don't know how you 00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:37.009 do that in a single player game. Must be done. 00:23:37.349 --> 00:23:40.269 But yeah, there is ways of doing that rather 00:23:40.269 --> 00:23:42.750 than just being like, here's your product, sir. 00:23:43.609 --> 00:23:51.329 Enjoy that. There's also the acquisition from 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:55.960 Netflix of Warner Brothers and I was talking 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.500 to Can't keep getting away with it. I was talking 00:23:59.500 --> 00:24:02.339 to the wow lot about it so Leon, John, Connor 00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:06.900 and sort of saying obviously Warner Brothers 00:24:06.900 --> 00:24:09.640 has their own gaming department which is quite 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.859 large and Netflix Give us the fucking Nemesis 00:24:11.859 --> 00:24:14.359 system. Well Netflix have said that they're not 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.940 particularly interested in it as a money maker 00:24:16.940 --> 00:24:19.200 so that alludes to the fact that they're willing 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.119 to sell it off. We'll sell off parts of it. And 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.319 yeah, the Nemesis system was the thing that we 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.279 were talking about because obviously Warner Brothers 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.299 owns that. And if they're now owned by Netflix, 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:31.700 that means Netflix now owns the Nemesis system, 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:33.619 which means if they're not interested in gaming, 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.940 they can sell that fucker off. Sell it off and 00:24:36.940 --> 00:24:40.099 get rid of the fucking patent on it. Get rid 00:24:40.099 --> 00:24:43.440 of it. Whoever buys that, just fucking tear the 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.849 patent up. Just go, no. we ain't we ain't or 00:24:45.849 --> 00:24:48.750 just let own the own it and then just allow everyone 00:24:48.750 --> 00:24:51.349 to use it yeah so you want to use to put money 00:24:51.349 --> 00:24:53.589 anyway you want to use the system you fucking 00:24:53.589 --> 00:24:56.769 crack on you use the system bro and then alongside 00:24:56.769 --> 00:25:00.309 fucking ea losing the licensing rights to star 00:25:00.309 --> 00:25:03.509 wars let's make a star wars game with the nemesis 00:25:03.509 --> 00:25:06.869 system in it why not why the fuck would you imagine 00:25:06.869 --> 00:25:09.769 let's do something like that now we've got the 00:25:09.769 --> 00:25:13.119 fucking creative freedom to to make something 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.559 quite fucking mega that would be tasty of course 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.420 it would who's not doing that why would you not 00:25:19.420 --> 00:25:23.099 do that if you own if you have the money for 00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:25.539 it if you're a AAA developer and you're going 00:25:25.539 --> 00:25:28.619 what's the next big thing that we can do oh I 00:25:28.619 --> 00:25:32.420 know everyone's screaming for a decent Star Wars 00:25:32.420 --> 00:25:34.900 game and everyone's screaming for the Nemesis 00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:37.380 system which has now just become available let's 00:25:37.380 --> 00:25:40.279 buy that cunt and let's make a Star Wars game 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:46.420 With that system in it. Oh. Give it to me. What 00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:51.160 a thing to do. What a thing to do. Sell it all 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:56.220 off. Sell it off. Give it to me. What else was 00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:59.980 on the game awards? You had... Big yawns. Best 00:25:59.980 --> 00:26:03.200 community support, Baldur's Gate 3. Yeah, they're 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.539 still... I think they're gradually wrapping that 00:26:05.539 --> 00:26:12.710 up now. Best mobile game... Yumamusumi. Pretty 00:26:12.710 --> 00:26:17.609 derby. I don't know. Fuck mobile gaming. Destiny 00:26:17.609 --> 00:26:21.609 Rising was up though. Oh yeah. Roman. Best VR 00:26:21.609 --> 00:26:24.990 slash AR game. The Midnight Walk. We're not interested 00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:28.750 in VR. Best action game. Hades 2. That's cool. 00:26:28.829 --> 00:26:31.710 I can see that. You can get with that. Not my 00:26:31.710 --> 00:26:34.549 style of game. Best action slash adventure game. 00:26:34.769 --> 00:26:37.880 Hollow Knight Silksong. I'm all game for that. 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.960 They beat some heavy hitters. Death Stranding 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.160 2, Ghost of Yotai, Indiana Jones, and Split Fiction. 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.019 I've not really heard much of anything on Ghost 00:26:47.019 --> 00:26:50.660 of Yotai. It's very good. Yeah. It's such a weird 00:26:50.660 --> 00:26:52.460 one because I know it dropped, but it's been 00:26:52.460 --> 00:26:56.859 like, personally, between all of our lot and 00:26:56.859 --> 00:27:00.819 whatever else. Well, Mark's platinum did. And 00:27:00.819 --> 00:27:02.980 he said that it was extremely good, better than 00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:06.980 Ghost of Tsushima. I feel like it's one of those 00:27:06.980 --> 00:27:09.660 where it was just expected that it's going to 00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:12.559 be good, and it is good. So there's not really 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:14.960 much negativity surrounding it, so therefore 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.920 you don't really hear much about it. But it's 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.160 also not an online game. It's not multiplayer. 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.400 So you're not going to get much of the like with 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.259 Artgraders where you see it every fucking five 00:27:26.259 --> 00:27:28.579 minutes. You're not going to get the same clips 00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:31.200 and interactions that you're going to get from 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.450 a single -player AAA game. especially with so 00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:37.329 much other shit going on because Ghost of Yotai 00:27:37.329 --> 00:27:39.130 released it the same month with like four other 00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:41.210 games so there was so much shit wasn't it like 00:27:41.210 --> 00:27:44.150 in within like four days or something yeah you 00:27:44.150 --> 00:27:48.390 had I can fucking scroll back onto the calendar 00:27:48.390 --> 00:27:52.049 for it so it was October wasn't it so you had 00:27:52.049 --> 00:27:58.470 Ghost of Yotai you then had Battlefield 6 you 00:27:58.470 --> 00:27:59.809 then had that was probably what I was thinking 00:27:59.809 --> 00:28:08.509 what else did you have The Outer Worlds 2. Little 00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:10.910 Nightmares 3. It's already fucking December. 00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:15.470 Nearly mid -December. This was all in the space 00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:19.809 of fucking one month. The month prior to that, 00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:22.730 I'm pretty sure there was also another game that 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:25.430 came out. I can't remember what it was. It's 00:28:25.430 --> 00:28:27.950 been quite a heavy end of the year. It was heavy. 00:28:28.089 --> 00:28:30.500 And that's what I'm saying. Ghost of Yotai, very 00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:32.559 good game. I think there was just so much shit. 00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:34.400 I think it was because you had Battlefield 6 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.400 come out literally the day after. So that obviously 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.200 just overwhelmed all forms of social media. But 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.220 Ghost of Yotai is meant to be very, very good. 00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:50.180 You've got Little Nightmares 3 is also a game 00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:51.460 that I want to play as well because I really 00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:55.339 like 1 and 2. Look at the popular searches. I 00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:57.400 don't know why Black Desert's on there. Black 00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.559 Desert's always fucking... Well, it's free. That 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.680 would explain why. What else have we got? Yeah, 00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:08.660 best multiplayer game, Ark Raiders. Yeah. I was 00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:10.380 surprised that... Went up against Battlefield 00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:13.359 6, Elden Ring, Night Rain, Peak, and then Split 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:17.210 Fiction. That's what that went against. Ark Raiders 00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:20.549 is big, man. It's fucking, it's big. Ash did 00:29:20.549 --> 00:29:23.849 say it was going to pick up. Yeah, he called 00:29:23.849 --> 00:29:26.230 it that it was going to be mega and I believe 00:29:26.230 --> 00:29:29.930 that it will remain being mega. Not my cup of 00:29:29.930 --> 00:29:33.279 tea. I'm not a massive fan of extractions. What 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.859 I am a massive fan of, though, is seeing all 00:29:35.859 --> 00:29:39.859 the people cry about being killed. Because it's 00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:42.119 a fucking extraction shooter. What the fuck do 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.059 you expect? That's the whole point of it. If 00:29:44.059 --> 00:29:47.920 you take away the PvP aspect from an extraction 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.119 shooter, it's not an extraction shooter. It takes 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.910 away everything about it. And I can only speak 00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:59.009 of it from playing the Dark Zone in The Division, 00:29:59.150 --> 00:30:02.369 which is the genesis of Extraction Shooters in 00:30:02.369 --> 00:30:07.630 that that heart -pounding fucking fear and anxiety 00:30:07.630 --> 00:30:11.390 of killing people. You can't trust your fellow 00:30:11.390 --> 00:30:13.829 man. Yeah, getting their loot and then trying 00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:16.950 to extract. And then someone else is extracting. 00:30:17.309 --> 00:30:20.559 But the fact that... what you've got in art graders 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.140 where everyone's sort of banding together and 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:24.799 looking after each other you didn't have that 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.960 in the dark zone that wasn't a thing it was everyone 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:28.880 was killing everyone that was it if you was if 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:30.339 you was at the extraction zone and there was 00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:32.859 someone else there you had to fucking watch because 00:30:32.859 --> 00:30:34.920 chances are you was about to get into a gunfight 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.920 it would always happen and it was incredible 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.140 i loved it and i hated it at the same time but 00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:43.180 that is that is the bread and butter to to an 00:30:43.180 --> 00:30:44.960 extraction shooter it's like playing fucking 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.140 cod zombies without the zombies what am i doing 00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:49.160 then I'm just running around a building with 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:53.019 a gun. Like, what is the fucking point? Please 00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:56.599 get rid of the PVP. No, fuck off. Yeah, that 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.380 would drastically change the dynamic of... Don't 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:01.619 even add a PVE mode in. Don't add it because 00:31:01.619 --> 00:31:07.539 it's PVP. It's P -V -E -V -P. Yeah. So keep it 00:31:07.539 --> 00:31:09.880 that way. Because people were calling. I think 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.640 there was a fucking petition for it as well where 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:16.160 they wanted a PVE mode. No, don't do it. You 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.099 had Fortnite that got rid of the build and had 00:31:18.099 --> 00:31:21.000 a no -build mode. Took off great. Perfect. You 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.740 don't need to bow down and get rid of the PvP 00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:26.359 aspect of it. If you don't like it, don't fucking 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.619 play it. But that's also why free loadouts are 00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:32.019 a thing. Because people are also saying they 00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:34.299 should bring in insurance that you can buy for 00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:36.640 your loadouts. Number one, you've got one aspect 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.599 because you've got a little slot you can put 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.930 something in and it keeps it. But also... That's 00:31:41.930 --> 00:31:43.650 risky business because that ends up being like, 00:31:43.730 --> 00:31:45.750 oh, I'll pay for the insurance and then that'll 00:31:45.750 --> 00:31:48.890 be like a thing that ends up being a microtransaction. 00:31:49.210 --> 00:31:51.329 Yeah, and it's bullshit. It's why you have a 00:31:51.329 --> 00:31:53.289 free loadout. You don't want your gear getting 00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:56.170 stolen. Get a free loadout. This is how I would 00:31:56.170 --> 00:31:59.089 play it. I would be doing free loadouts and camping 00:31:59.089 --> 00:32:01.329 by the extraction. I'm going to kill you at the 00:32:01.329 --> 00:32:03.089 end and take your shit and then I'm going to 00:32:03.089 --> 00:32:04.990 log back into another game with another free 00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:07.769 loadout and I don't give a fuck if I die. That's 00:32:07.769 --> 00:32:09.309 how I'm going to play. It's like playing DayZ. 00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:12.839 crying that you get shot in the head yeah that's 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.819 the whole point of it and it sucks it's like 00:32:14.819 --> 00:32:17.019 playing Elden Ring and complaining that the game's 00:32:17.019 --> 00:32:19.180 hard yeah it's supposed to be I think that's 00:32:19.180 --> 00:32:20.680 one of the reasons I couldn't play that kind 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:24.859 of game I'd be pissed I'd hate it Because I know 00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:27.119 it would proper sour me to be like, oh yeah, 00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:28.740 I've done really well for this amount of time. 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:31.000 And then I've killed you at the end. Yeah, someone's 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.220 either done me over dirty or just something fucks 00:32:33.220 --> 00:32:36.019 up. I would hate it. And then that would be me 00:32:36.019 --> 00:32:39.099 putting my fist through the computer screen. 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.000 I'd absolutely hate it. But at the same time, 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.519 I don't get on well with the gameplay loop. I'm 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.940 like that with Battle Royales. I've said multiple 00:32:47.940 --> 00:32:50.519 times. Once I get a win, that's it. It's completed 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.579 for me. I don't like that kind of grind. I've 00:32:52.579 --> 00:32:54.700 done what I need to do. be the same with an extraction 00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:56.680 shooter if i get a load of kills and then i extract 00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:01.119 okay cool now what yeah i don't now what i'm 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.019 done that's for me i mean that's very shallow 00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.640 but that's just how i operate um well it's a 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.680 little bit like the hell divers loop that eventually 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.420 you're like exactly that i've done i've done 00:33:11.420 --> 00:33:13.680 as much as i can do and as much as it is fun 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.579 there's not much more to it than i've got to 00:33:16.579 --> 00:33:19.019 do this much in this amount of time i've got 00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:21.559 to get got to get out at the end of it I was 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.420 obsessed with it the other month obsessed for 00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:25.500 about two weeks yeah every day I was playing 00:33:25.500 --> 00:33:27.599 it I was like this is sick I love this like this 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.980 this feels so good and then just stopped just 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:34.279 madness for your wow grind you're happy for all 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:38.099 that but yeah yeah yeah but when it comes to 00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:43.160 like a game that's also grindy or you know hey 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.480 look fucking I did Dying Light the Beast I grinded 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.500 through that and I enjoyed it, but at the same 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.480 time, I hated it. But then The Outer Worlds 2, 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.160 which I've literally just completed the other 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.240 day, that was 57 hours, is what I put into that. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.720 And absolutely incredible. How many hours did 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.039 I spend on the original? Fucking loved Outer 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.099 Worlds 2. That's another game. Did you enjoy 00:34:07.099 --> 00:34:11.260 the first one? I definitely did, but I definitely 00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:13.460 had moments where I was like, this is getting... 00:34:14.670 --> 00:34:17.110 repetitive maybe so the second one is way way 00:34:17.110 --> 00:34:20.090 better in terms of repetitiveness nah there ain't 00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:25.969 any there really isn't the guns are way better 00:34:25.969 --> 00:34:29.769 the combat is fucking is way better the characters 00:34:29.769 --> 00:34:33.070 are better the story is better the environment's 00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:37.010 better really really fucking fun game and the 00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:40.929 random perks that you can get the flaws did I 00:34:40.929 --> 00:34:45.530 not have this on seems to suggest that I didn't 00:34:45.530 --> 00:34:48.389 have this on maybe I got it on GOG when it first 00:34:48.389 --> 00:34:51.269 came out maybe maybe because Outer Worlds 2 is 00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:53.409 completely separate to Outer Worlds 1 story is 00:34:53.409 --> 00:34:54.369 completely different you don't need to play I 00:34:54.369 --> 00:34:56.670 enjoyed it because it's again it's like it's 00:34:56.670 --> 00:34:58.349 an obsidian game but I don't I think there was 00:34:58.349 --> 00:35:00.150 moments where I was just like oh this is feeling 00:35:00.150 --> 00:35:04.889 maybe a little bit empty I definitely played 00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:06.750 it I think it might have been just like the ending 00:35:06.750 --> 00:35:09.409 got me as a bit like oh is that kind of it well 00:35:09.409 --> 00:35:11.769 there's different endings on this one yeah and 00:35:11.769 --> 00:35:15.530 I won't spoil anything but I believe I have to 00:35:15.530 --> 00:35:16.670 google it because I haven't actually looked it 00:35:16.670 --> 00:35:18.530 up but I think the ending that I got was the 00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:23.230 good ending like the typical like it's too many 00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:26.489 fucking games leader ending too many games and 00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:28.880 I haven't got enough time yeah well this is the 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.860 thing because Outer Worlds 2 I put all of my 00:35:30.860 --> 00:35:33.400 time into it I was like any game in time I need 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.219 to play Outer Worlds 2 because I really enjoy 00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:39.639 this game and I want to finish it I actually 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.699 I think I think there was only maybe like three 00:35:43.699 --> 00:35:46.320 missions like side missions that were just collectible 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.699 stuff that I had left over so I fucking did pretty 00:35:48.699 --> 00:35:50.260 much everything that's what does me that's what 00:35:50.260 --> 00:35:53.619 gives me the not the the fear but that gives 00:35:53.619 --> 00:35:56.820 me the hesitation to pick up gaming is picking 00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:59.699 up big games and that's mostly what I want to 00:35:59.699 --> 00:36:04.440 play is big games you go like Ragnarok yeah you 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.320 go I want to play that I've got it I've been 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.659 meaning to play it for however long and again 00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.860 wouldn't get a PlayStation because why would 00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:15.940 I buy a PlayStation for like exclusives waiting 00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:19.679 for it to come to PC got it on sale or whatever 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.400 and it's just sat there because I go I know this 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.380 is a big game And I know there's a lot of side 00:36:25.380 --> 00:36:28.039 shit. And the side shit is the problem that I've 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.659 got the completionist run in my brain, which 00:36:31.659 --> 00:36:33.960 won't let me just go like, just do the main story 00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.199 and avoid the rest. It'll be, no, you're in an 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.340 area, you need to do everything. Well, that's 00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:41.320 exactly how I work. And with Dying Light the 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.519 Beast, I didn't do any of that because I just 00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.980 wanted to get it done. Whereas Outer Worlds 2, 00:36:47.179 --> 00:36:51.250 I did everything. and enjoyed everything. At 00:36:51.250 --> 00:36:54.409 no point did I feel like I was doing a side mission. 00:36:54.690 --> 00:36:57.650 I was doing a slog. And one of the great things 00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:00.750 about it is even though you've got your main 00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:06.150 story, you're free to go and explore entire zones 00:37:06.150 --> 00:37:09.329 without having to do the main story. And then 00:37:09.329 --> 00:37:11.349 what you find is that throughout the main story 00:37:11.349 --> 00:37:13.909 or various missions, they'll ask you to go and 00:37:13.909 --> 00:37:16.050 do stuff and either collect certain things or 00:37:16.050 --> 00:37:18.190 go and find out certain information, liberate 00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:20.900 whatever. And you've already done it. And it 00:37:20.900 --> 00:37:23.579 seamlessly goes, oh, you've already done this, 00:37:23.619 --> 00:37:26.320 blah, blah, blah. So you're not really locked 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.440 behind anything. One of the things that I really 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.059 enjoyed about it wasn't necessarily the combat. 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.619 The combat was probably the thing that I least, 00:37:36.699 --> 00:37:40.199 not enjoyed, but the thing that I was least bothered 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:42.699 about. The bit that I really loved was the dialogue. 00:37:43.219 --> 00:37:45.539 Yeah. And the choices that you can pick. Because 00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:46.800 obviously you've got all those perks that you 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.300 get to pick from. I specialised in hacking, engineering 00:37:49.300 --> 00:37:51.860 and lockpicking was my main things. And guns. 00:37:52.579 --> 00:37:55.159 But guns was less than the other three. I can't 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.119 really remember how the first game was. I think 00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.500 it was very... But then that's an Obsidian thing 00:37:59.500 --> 00:38:03.000 where... Because, you know, Fallout New Vegas 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.940 and they're quite good with branching dialogue 00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:12.400 trays. Yeah, very, very fun. Because... I had 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.840 a play style of I was able to pickpocket a lot 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:19.280 of pickpocket people, which meant gaining access, 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.440 like needing key cards to get into certain areas 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.980 and shit like that. I was able to pickpocket 00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.440 the people to obtain that rather than having 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.699 to go through the dialogue. And then I was able 00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:30.800 to open most doors and most chests and hack most 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.280 terminals. And so I was able to access areas. 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.179 easier or quicker that you wouldn't be able to 00:38:39.179 --> 00:38:44.820 and then with the dialogue options there was 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:46.980 just a wealth of things I spent the majority 00:38:46.980 --> 00:38:50.360 of the game in dialogue yeah Because there's 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.760 so many conversations to have, but it was engaging 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.420 because it's like, right, well, if you had this 00:38:55.420 --> 00:38:57.420 skill or this bit of information or if you had 00:38:57.420 --> 00:38:59.019 done this, then you could have gone down this 00:38:59.019 --> 00:39:01.559 route and blah, blah, blah. Nine times out of 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.139 ten, I had an option that I could go with that 00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:05.940 would change the course of the conversation. 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.039 maybe it's because we play D &D more or if I'm 00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.039 just getting more into those types of games where 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.539 I'm getting more patient with it. I remember 00:39:14.539 --> 00:39:16.460 you being like, I don't know if I've got the 00:39:16.460 --> 00:39:19.059 creativity and the imagination for D &D. And 00:39:19.059 --> 00:39:22.059 you go like... And I do, I do. You've got to 00:39:22.059 --> 00:39:23.500 trust yourself with it. But I feel like that's 00:39:23.500 --> 00:39:26.440 why I enjoyed Outer Worlds 2 so much because 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.659 I was like, towards the end, there were some 00:39:29.659 --> 00:39:32.219 bits of dialogue where I was... I was slightly 00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:34.300 skipping stuff, but I was reading it all before 00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:35.960 I was skipping it because I was like, I read 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.559 this quicker than you're speaking it. But that 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.579 was part of the game that I really, really enjoyed 00:39:42.579 --> 00:39:44.719 was those dialogue options where it was like, 00:39:44.780 --> 00:39:47.780 what's going to happen when I talk to this person? 00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:50.559 Do I have the necessary skills to like, how is 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.159 my character going to be able to... Handle these 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.619 situations. Yeah, what am I going to be able 00:39:56.619 --> 00:39:59.789 to do? And that made it really enjoyable. That's 00:39:59.789 --> 00:40:03.650 a good sign of a good RPG. Yeah. How I make this 00:40:03.650 --> 00:40:07.050 character makes it relevant to how I can go forward. 00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:09.389 Yeah. It just kind of ties into D &D because 00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:13.610 you go, well, you're a barbarian. You're not 00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:15.250 going to be good at speaking to people. Yeah. 00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:17.550 But even like the companions. So there's six 00:40:17.550 --> 00:40:20.170 companions. I did all of the companion quests, 00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:22.329 every single one of them, because I was invested 00:40:22.329 --> 00:40:26.510 in their stories. But I knew that they were good. 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.420 because when i was going to various different 00:40:29.420 --> 00:40:31.440 planets and doing different missions and stuff 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.340 like that i was i knew which companions i wanted 00:40:35.340 --> 00:40:36.559 to bring with me because i knew what they were 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.519 like as characters so i knew how they would react 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:41.460 with a certain dialogue and the politics on this 00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:43.960 certain planet and the situation i'd find myself 00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:49.699 in um it which for me sort of like light bulb 00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:51.500 moment where i was like no that i know this is 00:40:51.500 --> 00:40:53.860 a good game for me because i'm understanding 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.380 everything that's going on here I know what is 00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:00.039 happening with these characters and everything 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.099 for me great for people like Ash probably not 00:41:04.099 --> 00:41:05.699 so great probably wouldn't enjoy it well the 00:41:05.699 --> 00:41:07.059 interesting thing because I thought Ash used 00:41:07.059 --> 00:41:10.159 to like Fallout because he used to say that he 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.960 really enjoyed it but I don't know if I misconstrued 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.760 it or got it wrong and thought of someone else 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.539 when he was like oh I'm not really that big on 00:41:16.539 --> 00:41:19.159 Fallout no I think Ash really likes Fallout but 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.619 then it was like oh he didn't enjoy Outer Worlds 00:41:21.619 --> 00:41:26.199 yeah he just didn't like Outer Worlds which because 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.039 it's Fallout but it's not Fallout at the same 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.699 time it is it's own standalone it's different 00:41:30.699 --> 00:41:35.800 arguably I prefer Outer Worlds to Fallout but 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.460 it's difficult having just played them would 00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:40.380 I then go back to the likes of Fallout and go 00:41:40.380 --> 00:41:42.539 no this is fucking sick because I've now got 00:41:42.539 --> 00:41:45.860 that much like when you go from playing D &D 00:41:46.489 --> 00:41:48.550 To then go, all right, well, maybe I'll get invested 00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.349 in Boulder's Gate or vice versa. Because now 00:41:52.349 --> 00:41:54.949 I've dipped my toes in an aspect of it. Would 00:41:54.949 --> 00:41:57.409 I really enjoy it? I think you would enjoy some 00:41:57.409 --> 00:41:59.610 of it. I think where they're a little bit older 00:41:59.610 --> 00:42:00.909 and a little bit clankier. I don't even know. 00:42:00.969 --> 00:42:03.050 I played them. I played Fallout 3, Fallout 4, 00:42:03.230 --> 00:42:07.769 New Vegas. I've played them. Even 76. So I've 00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:11.789 completed them all. It's just I was a lot younger 00:42:11.789 --> 00:42:14.289 when I did that. So I obviously have a completely 00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:17.010 different outlook and mindset. when playing these 00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:19.230 games, but also the same as you, I don't want 00:42:19.230 --> 00:42:22.469 to invest the time. I've done Dying Light. I've 00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:24.389 done Outworld. Big game scare me a little bit. 00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:26.849 Let me recede back to World of Warcraft, which 00:42:26.849 --> 00:42:28.949 is what I'm doing. Let me go back to the comfort. 00:42:29.269 --> 00:42:31.670 That's why Dispatch was good for me because the 00:42:31.670 --> 00:42:35.030 episodes were like an hour and a half, maybe 00:42:35.030 --> 00:42:37.469 two hours. And there's only like eight of them. 00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:39.969 Yeah. It was like, oh, I can, I ended up getting 00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:42.480 through like four in a night. And I did it all 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.119 on the Steam Deck. I didn't even have to go upstairs 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.960 and fucking sit down. I could just literally 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:48.840 sit on the Steam Deck, lay on the sofa and play 00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.619 it. And I was proper invested. Versus if I want 00:42:52.619 --> 00:42:54.420 to play God of War, if I want to play Ghost of 00:42:54.420 --> 00:42:56.400 Yotai, or if I want to play anything else, it's 00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:57.619 going to be... It's just those comfort games. 00:42:57.619 --> 00:43:00.920 I'm going to have to commit to this as much as 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.139 I want to. But it's those comfort games that 00:43:03.139 --> 00:43:05.360 are also very engaging and very fun to play. 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.590 I had that with Hi -Fi Rush. Finish that on the 00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:10.550 steam deck. I've said it to Ash. I said it's 00:43:10.550 --> 00:43:14.030 why Rogue Trader kind of died off for me. As 00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.289 much as I was playing a lot of it, I got to a 00:43:16.289 --> 00:43:18.429 point and we joked and said, because there's 00:43:18.429 --> 00:43:23.250 bits that are full narrated dialogue and then 00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:26.070 sometimes there's not. So you can be just like, 00:43:26.269 --> 00:43:27.969 oh, I'm just listening. And then there's a bit 00:43:27.969 --> 00:43:30.289 where you go, it all stops. And then you have 00:43:30.289 --> 00:43:32.489 to lean forward and you have to read the whole 00:43:32.489 --> 00:43:36.059 thing and walls of text. And you go. I'm tired. 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.659 It's late in the day. I'm tired. I've had a busy 00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:42.760 one at work or a busy week and you go, yeah. 00:43:43.099 --> 00:43:45.420 And it's also a game that's got 4 ,000 options 00:43:45.420 --> 00:43:47.940 that you go, this is a bit much. Yeah, it's just 00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:50.659 madness. It's absolute madness. That's why, yeah, 00:43:50.699 --> 00:43:54.079 you need those. It's gone are the days of having 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.340 the time and the brain capacity to just crack 00:43:56.340 --> 00:44:00.739 through these big 60, 70 -hour games, even 100 00:44:00.739 --> 00:44:04.079 -hour games and just keep... chugging along at 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.280 them because you go I can't I can't keep doing 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:10.760 this I can't do it it's just a lot it's a lot 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.900 like I say there's so many games so many games 00:44:12.900 --> 00:44:15.900 Ghost of Yotar Little Nightmares fucking there's 00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:17.539 all sorts I haven't even touched Night Rain I 00:44:17.539 --> 00:44:19.539 won't touch Night Rain I just know that I won't 00:44:19.539 --> 00:44:21.659 Night Rain's not for me but there's there's just 00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:24.460 so many games where you think I just don't have 00:44:24.460 --> 00:44:28.320 the capacity to it's like I haven't played Elden 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.090 Ring oh which is mad and then you just go like 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:34.349 which is madness like I've played the Souls games 00:44:34.349 --> 00:44:35.969 didn't play Bloodborne because I didn't have 00:44:35.969 --> 00:44:38.489 a Playstation yeah but I was just like I know 00:44:39.130 --> 00:44:41.409 There is massive aspects of Elden Ring that would 00:44:41.409 --> 00:44:43.369 appeal to me, but I'm just like... It's such 00:44:43.369 --> 00:44:45.130 a big game. I'm just like, I can't. That's too 00:44:45.130 --> 00:44:48.630 much. It's such a big and lonely game. Yeah. 00:44:49.269 --> 00:44:52.469 You have to be in the right mindset to be able 00:44:52.469 --> 00:44:56.250 to play Elden Ring, and I feel like you're not 00:44:56.250 --> 00:44:57.610 in that mindset at the moment. That won't come 00:44:57.610 --> 00:45:00.789 to me. You're not there right now. That's one 00:45:00.789 --> 00:45:02.030 I'm never going to... That would be just like, 00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:04.630 I'm never going to touch that. Yeah. I love it. 00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:06.510 It's a beautiful game. Incredible game. One of 00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:10.559 the goats. But there's so much other stuff. It's 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.199 such a big game. It's such a big game. And for 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.559 a completionist, it's even worse because you 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.019 don't know what the fuck's going on. There are 00:45:18.019 --> 00:45:22.019 no quests as such. You're finding shit, which 00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:24.719 in turn makes you want to explore every aspect 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.719 of it. But everything's difficult. It's not a 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.420 game for the faint -hearted. I'm surprised I 00:45:30.420 --> 00:45:33.940 managed to fucking do it six times. I really 00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:37.530 am. Six times I managed to do that game. I don't 00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:39.690 know what the fuck happened there, but I think 00:45:39.690 --> 00:45:43.389 it's just that adrenaline, that dopamine hit 00:45:43.389 --> 00:45:47.469 of killing those bosses. I need to do this. His 00:45:47.469 --> 00:45:49.050 health bar's gone down, so that means he can 00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:51.789 die. I don't care if I'm massively out -geared 00:45:51.789 --> 00:45:56.070 for it. I can do this. Yeah, madness. Well, that's 00:45:56.070 --> 00:46:00.099 it. We can fuck off. Oh, my God. Fuck off. Cheers 00:46:00.099 --> 00:46:01.780 for listening, everyone. Roman, you fucking forgot 00:46:01.780 --> 00:46:04.000 stuff in my van. Of course you did. Squirrel 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.900 boy. Who wrote? Who wrote?