Hello, Buttons of Watts. Hello. Oh, unfamiliar
voice but familiar voice at the same time. The
return. Oh, the prodigal son. Oh, God, the stand
-in. When was the last time you did an episode?
How long ago was that? I haven't got a special
logo for you, so it's difficult. Months and months
and months. Just get an orangutan and just stick
that on. It's difficult to pull out. Photoshop
that in. But it has been a good couple of months,
I think. Yeah, I can't remember. I would have
to scroll right back and I don't know when. Well,
welcome back. Welcome to the podcast dungeon.
You'll notice that this is substantially better
than the last one. Yeah, I'm not holding a massive
dong in my face. No massive penis. A special
little chode on the arm boom. The last one was
in a shed pretty much, wasn't it? Yeah, it was
when you were at the old house. You hadn't moved
in here yet. It was cold and damp. It was cold.
It was pretty smelly like damp. It was. It smelled
like my fucking work boots. We've got some insulation
here though, so we're decent. Oh, fantastic.
Episode 149. That's what this is. That's what
this is. I thought you meant that was the last
one you did. I was like, there's no way. It's
nice. I was saying to a couple of my mates yesterday,
I was like, it's... It's always nice to get someone
else's perspective on the pod when they haven't
been on for a while or just haven't been on at
all. It adds a little bit of freshness into the
stale mixture that is What's the Button? What's
the Button's got at all? It might have been episode
122 because that I've got partially listened
to. Yeah. Which tracks about right, but that
would have been December last year. That tracks
about right, to be fair, doesn't it? It sounds
about right, yeah. Fucking hell. Fucking months
and months. It is mad. And months. Because I
always, I'm guilty. I wasn't invited. Well, that's
the thing. I was about to say, I'm guilty of
the chance and the occasions when the podcast
can't happen normally, which is quite fucking
often. So like even this week, I've got a doctor's
appointment Friday. Oh God, here we go. So I
have to move, juggle some things around. That'd
be me called down here Thursday. I always forget.
I always forget that I can just ask, ask the
audience if anyone wants to fucking jump on and
say hello. Yeah, that sort of... How many weeks
without Ash again? No, this is all on me, to
be fair. The last three weeks has entirely been
me, which is fine, which is annoying as well
because Ash has finished Rogue Trader. so I really
want to hear and he hasn't told me anything hasn't
he no he just texted me it's a little bit awkward
for me because I started playing it a little
bit after Ash was playing it and I have not made
anywhere near the progress that he's made what
did he say he said so the fact that I do listen
in and then go ah okay that's technically big
spoilers but not that I'm really that fussed
he said he just texted me saying Rogue Trader
is finished what am I going to do I do wonder
what his hours have looked like now. It was 156.
Is that total to finish? Because I know that
was pretty much what he was at. Oh, no. Yeah,
it's probably more like 160, 170 -odd thing,
which is a lot. Last time I sort of spoke to
him, and that was about the time where he came
to mine, and we ended up going out and getting
him a combat patrol for World Eaters. Yeah. He
said he was about 33 % through. Well, he sent
me a screenshot of one of his mates. Or someone
that he's got on his PSN. And they apparently
hadn't got the trophy that you get when you finish
Rogue Trader. Right. But they put 770 hours into
it. it's a bit like my Baldur's Gate playthrough
before it was even fucking before the actual
release I had like 150 hours and that was just
the early access act one he was like I don't
understand because he was like I've got more
trophies than he does so he was like what the
fuck is he doing I was like I don't know so there
might be a glitch restarting it from the beginning
might just be fucking leaving it some of the
achievements I know for a fact have been like
you have to do very specific criteria to get
that to prop yeah then it'd be like you probably
wouldn't hit that from a certain play style because
it does the game does suggest well if you were
going by the like just the ideologies there's
three to begin with so there was the dogmatic
the heretic like ash has been yeah and there's
iconoclast which is like being um just being
a good person yeah basically so that's if you
were to do them from all different perspectives
You're going to change a lot of the story. I
will imagine that Ash is not being a good person.
Well, we know that for a fact. He's being a fucking
dirty heretic. Yeah, yeah. I've got a worm in
my brain, so that's making me be evil. Well,
funny that we should talk about that and then
talk about fucking Baldur's Gate because obviously
me and Steph are playing it. After this, we'll
probably fucking play it tonight as well. And
fuck, it's fun. What a fun game. You can finally
come back to it. What a fun game that is. Especially
when you've got D &D knowledge as well. Because
when I first started Baldur's Gate, obviously
we hadn't done any D &D before. Had we? Or had
we done one? No, I don't think we'd done any.
I don't think you'd done any. Because that was
where Ash was saying that he... I think that's
what got us into it, wasn't it? He thought he
had a little bit more knowledge because he was
pushing through. Baldur's Gate so he kind of
understood the concepts a little bit more but
that I remember playing it it's good from both
sides because if you play Baldur's Gate it gives
you more of an idea because it's basically like
for like it gives you a lot more of the ideas
like I was trying to explain to you The other
day when we played, you're like, oh, you're in
engagement range. And you were like, no, I'm
not. And I'm like, you are. Yeah, I couldn't
understand it. Oh, yeah, I've clocked that now.
It's like Baldur's Gate. If you're up close and
personal with being a spellcaster or a ranged
character. Or if you're immobilized or something
like that and then you're at disadvantage. A
lot of that still, that carries over. But it's
made into, you can't necessarily visualize that.
on a table top because it's not giving you the
flashes and all the little pop ups but you turn
around and go no this is what's happening and
it's a good representative because you've got
differences well not differences it's differences
in terms of visual rather than actual law and
mechanically in like having advantage on boulders
gate because am I right advantage in D &D is
you roll twice and you take what you take the
highest one obviously it doesn't do that in boulders
gate does it no it's just you have advantage
it won't look that way in the combat but then
when you do that because you can when you come
to you know when you get the little pop -up for
the dice rolls yeah it will be sometimes you
see down the bottom you can like add bonuses
yep sometimes there is one that will give you
advantage on that and it shows you it brings
two dice up oh okay and it will roll both of
those at the same time it will pick one and then
it will gray out whichever was the lowest only
time we've ever had it was in combat so obviously
there isn't any it will come up later as well
or you can take like potions and stuff that give
you buffs that will be like that that will come
up in the non -combat situations what's her name
Ethel Aunty Ethel Aunty Ethel yeah bitch what
a cunt what an absolute cunt nasty witch person
we haven't even fought her yet yeah because Steph
did her own playthrough and she didn't finish
it but she got like knows quite a bit about what's
happening 30ish hours into it or something like
that it's still respectable time and it's um
so she never made it out of act one however she
knows quite a lot of what's going on in act one
and when we was in the grove obviously aunt auntie
Ethel is there and I was chatting to her and
she was like oh my god that's her and I was like
who and she was like fucking auntie Ethel she
was like the witch um And when Steph was playing...
Just as bad as you. Been out long enough. Just
as bad as you for spoilers. When Steph was on
her own playthrough going against her, I remember
her having conversations with me about how much
of a cunt she was. So I obviously spoke to her
and then Steph was like, you want to be nice
to her? She was like, just be nice. So I was
like, all right, we'll be nice to her. Fuck her
off. And then we went on exploring. And then
obviously found her where she's talking to those
two people that turns out to be Thingy's brothers.
Fucked them up, burnt them to a crisp, which
I didn't feel good about. I said to Steph, I
said, we've got to kill them. And she was like,
we have to. I said, do we? But we did. It's your
playthrough. Went to her house. And then, yeah,
sure enough, there she is, fucking turns into
the witch. Nice big ugly hag. But then she ran
away. Yep. she ran away and then there was about
seven fucking weird goblin little red caps yeah
they were fucking horrible yeah wiped us all
except for me i managed to because what because
i what are you playing as i'm playing as a fighter
but i'm playing as a arcane um whatever that
spec is the the the archer one Is it like Arcane
Archer? I think that is one of them. It's Arcane
something. I haven't looked at it in a little
while because I know they added a lot more classes.
Because you've got four. You've got Eldritch
Knight at the end and then it was... Because
it just used to be like Battlemaster and Champion
or something like that. Yeah, but whatever the
one is with the fucking arrows because I was
like, I want to be ranged. That's why I was asking
on Saturday, asking Alicia, I was like, are fighters
good at range? And when she was like, no, they're
shit, I was like, oh. I was like, oh no. I was
going to say, she's not wrong. Well, she is wrong
anyway. Because I thought, just because they're
proficient in. Yeah, fighters can be some of
the best range characters you can get. They're
just not going to be, if you factor in like range
damage, yeah, a wizard's going to be better long
term. Yeah. In terms of like, you go high end
on a, fighter and you stack like you've got four
by the end of the if you go for a level 20 fighter
long term that's four attacks plus you can action
surge so that's eight attacks plus any bonuses
oh what the action surge gives you the doubles
your action so your attack action is four by
high levels is four attacks so that turns it
into eight wow it's like I said to you before
I had a I had an echo knight Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who, even by level... What was it? I never got
to play my Echo Knight. Well, that was your own
fault, wasn't it? One on. Albert comes. Cut the
pieces. Yeah, even by level five, I had like
six attacks plus. It was like there was an encounter
in one of the campaigns that we played. And I
just basically soloed the... that like area boss
who had like 90 hit points and i was just level
five and went well it's time yeah and just kicked
off so yeah you can still be the same for a you
just have to build the class different because
everyone goes oh fight is just going to be a
strength based a bit like a barbarian but the
beauty of a fighter is that they're such a blank
canvas not necessarily in dnd but like Something
like Pathfinder is better for customization.
What? Because I took a screenshot. But you can
definitely build a character, build a fighter
around decks and then pick a ranged one. So we
have... With bows or spears or whatever you fancy,
really. His name is Rhys. Original. He's a level
three wood elf at the moment. Arcane Archer is
what it is. So what have we got? We've got...
Kind of goes against what you were just saying.
Legolas. 15 strength. 16 decks. That's still
relevant though. 15 constitution, 10 intellect,
10 wisdom and 8 charisma. Yeah, that's about
right. Charisma is not my strong point. And then
Steph is currently playing a high half elf druid.
That's what she's playing. Oh God, I can't. I
can't wait until we've got some decent armor
and some weapons and shit like that where we
can pop off proper. It's just so much fun. But
that fucking, that, them red caps, they come
in, one of them enraged because the first encounter,
the first encounter we did, they didn't show
up. Yeah, they're not, they're down at the actual,
her little tea hut thing. So I don't know why
they didn't show up the first time. So we started
attacking Ethel. And then she absolutely batted
us. So that was that done. And then the second
time round, because it's split screen, when Steph
engages a cut scene or something, the other person,
it doesn't engage unless you go there and listen.
Oh yeah, that's the same for if you played that.
like online online yeah it's like people can
go into conversations and you can just be yeah
so so where where that was going on i was like
right okay well i'm gonna reposition myself whilst
this is going on because when we first did it
we was all in the doorway fucking first proper
encounter of the campaign yeah the very fucking
first one you know when you come off the the
what's the ship called the nautilus yeah the
nautiloid when you come off that and then you
go to get uh withers You pick up all the other
companions and then you go and get with us. Both
the bandits in that gaff killed us. They killed
us all. All of us. Because we opened the fucking
door and then, like idiots, we wouldn't survive
in a war. Through the door. Through the front
fucking door. Yeah, we opened that. And then
they're all stacked up. We were all stacked up
as well. One of them's fucking... thrown a fire
arrow, a Molotov at us. So suddenly, we're all
fucking burnt to a crisp. We've all lost most
of our health. One of them goes berserk, because
one of them's a barbarian, just absolutely wails
into all of us. Obviously, me and Steph are ranged,
so we're now at disadvantage. We can't fucking
move. Oh, we got absolutely bladdered. And then
the second time around, we went through a different
entrance and then fucked shit up. Actually...
about what we were doing. But anyway, Ethel's
house. Yeah, I managed to reposition so that
I climbed the ladder and I was standing on a
ledge. Obviously the red caps, they don't have
any ranged, or at least the ones that we fought
didn't have any, but they also apparently can't
climb ladders. I don't know why. I think they
jump quite well though. Well, they killed everyone
except for me. And then I just had to basically
solo them. But by that point, I had no actions
or anything left. So I was just hitting them
with arrows and then revived everyone. And then
now we're back in camp. And Steph was like, we
are not following her down in the basement. She's
like, we cannot do that. She's like, we need
better armor. We need to level up. So I was like,
all right, we'll leave that. I used to keep,
when a couple of times I've started a co -op
session with some of my mates and I've been like,
I'm going to play like a rogue this time and
people go into the conversations and I'm picking
the pockets of the person in the conversation
and taking all their shit. Love that. In the
grove, the little goblin that's in the crate,
whatever her name was, Salazar or something like
that. Salazar, yeah. Where's the fucking key
to get her out? Who's got that key? You can just
pick a lock, I think. You can just pick the lock.
Yeah. You have to click. You can just pick the
lock. Because when we were there, we didn't have
any lock picking tools. They will be about. You
can pick the lock. Yeah. We've been picking loads
of locks. Fucking loads. Just been thinking,
oh, I need to keep this one. You go, just pick
the lock. Because Steph really likes Astarion.
Yeah, he's very good with locks. Yeah. You can
get him to have advantage. There's an item at
some point that gives you, I used to do it on,
might have been one of my co -op characters or
I might have just put it in Astarion's inventory.
There's one that does give you advantage on lock
picks or like slight hand. So I'd just be like,
okay, I've come to a locked door. I'll just quickly
slip them gloves on. Advantage, super, whatever.
He picks the lock, success, and then just swap
back to his other gloves. Yeah, that's what...
So he gets all of our lock picking tools, our
thieves tools. And then who else we got with
us? We've got Gale. Gale's mobbing around with
us, but then we got rid of him. And now we've
got Shadowheart. But we haven't actually gone
out with Shadowheart yet, because I was going
to have Lae 'zel come out with us, but then I
was like, I don't want two fighters. Yeah, party
balance is a little bit awkward sometimes. I
was like, I don't want there to be two fighters
here, so we'll have Shadowheart not mobbing around
just to heal us. I'm trying to remember what
I actually played when I did my full playthrough.
I was a half -orc Tempest cleric. An orc? Tempest
Cleric. Weird combo. It's because it ended up
being quite like middle ground. So it was the
half fork added like they've got some sort of
endurance thing, which is if you get dropped
to zero, you come back at one hit point. Yeah.
And it was also because it was like, okay, I'm
going to go like semi. Well, you can't pick those...
So monstrous. You can't pick those weird classes,
those weird characters and shit, can you? Like
we've done. Like a fairy. A fairy, yeah. No,
they didn't... I think there's mods for that,
but they didn't, as base, decide. Well, that's
the one thing that we didn't really look into
because it's been so long since I've touched
the game. Obviously, they've now introduced mods
since the last time I touched it. So... Well,
yeah, because you're playing... Mods have been
massive on PC. Yeah, but now it's on PlayStation.
I did. Well, originally I did the early access
playthrough, which I played quite a lot of. I
did try different things, but then obviously
it only got to a point where I was like, oh yeah,
it's now over. Great, come back when the game's
finished. And that's when I did the full playthrough.
But I was like, I'm going to do a playthrough
without any mods. Yeah, yeah. What mods were
you flying on? Because... I haven't put any on
at the minute. The first one I see was Shadowheart
basically wearing a bikini. which really does
scream about the player base, doesn't it? Oh,
yeah. I was like, oh, right, okay. We've enhanced
the boobs, have we? Sex mods, come on. Let's
see. Let's do proper cut scenes, not face to
blacks. Yeah, she looks like she's got more bunda
than she had before. It seems a bit odd. Oh,
yeah, everyone loves that kind of stuff. But
I didn't flick through the rest of the mods.
If I have a look now and see what the number
one is. Steph was like, no, don't ruin the game.
But I'm thinking just a couple of things. There
must be some cool stuff there that aren't game
affecting. I would only go like quite a lot of
stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just make it a little
bit, because there were some things I found clunky
way back when, but again, there's been so many
updates since that I haven't been back. It's
such a huge game, man, that at the end of the
day, I've not... I know it'd be a little bit
heavy to try and go back to. Yeah. Again, when
I've got loads of other stuff I kind of want
to play. I'm just excited to be mumbling around
it, and then there's a nice balance between that...
and then jumping into something like Dying Light.
Yeah. The fucking night time in Dying Light,
The Beast, is something, it's ridiculous. You
know how Lord of the Rings does Blue Light? Yeah.
And you know how... everything else after when
all of the rings come out decided to ditch blue
light so now any scene in the dark you can't
fucking see it at all anything just the tv anything
game of thrones for i know game of thrones still
did blue light fucking um uh house of the dragon
rings of power eastenders they're all fucking
all of them are ditched blue light well This
is very much the same with Dying Light. So Dying
Light 2 had essentially blue light on their night
time setting. So it was still dark but you could
make out everything. Dying Light The Beast, full
blackness. Great. Full. Torch barely lights up,
fuck all. It's terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
I suppose that's what you want from that style
of game though. Yeah, but it was horrifying.
I did one mission, one of the first missions,
because I'm really not far in. Having to sit
in the dark just to play a video game, which
you don't like anyway. Well, I had to hunt down
a volatile. And obviously, they only come out
at night. So obviously, it sets you on this mission
in nighttime. Connor, I was so scared that you
have to basically follow the trail. this path
and you're using your senses and you can see
the footprints you know that and then you follow
it um and it basically leads you to uh this blown
up lorry that had soldiers in it and obviously
they've got the blue light is hanging on in the
back of the lorry like the trailer's open it's
all fire and shit everywhere um and when you
get there uh you just got to investigate the
area but obviously there's volatiles everywhere
so my ass was so scared that i basically sat
in that lorry dipping out so that they would
fucking aggro me and then coming back in the
blue light because once they touch it they can't
attack you however what they were doing is they
were jumping into the back of the lorry and then
having a spaz fit because they weren't supposed
to be in there so I was just fucking wailing
on them while they was in there I did that for
so long that the night the night mission turned
into a day mission so by the time I was done
it was fucking daylight and I was like oh cool
I can carry on it's just And you've only just
started, so I've got a fuck all weapon. I've
got a drain pipe. Yeah, I always feel like games
like that where you just come in. So I thought
exactly the same for Days Gone. I know everyone
was hyping it up and Ash was being like, yeah,
this is really good. And I was like, I'm not
really enjoying this first couple of little bits
because it's hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, very
much. It's that fuck. Everything's taking like
six hits. I've got to keep repairing my weapons.
You're up against it. Yeah, and then you've got
the parkour as well, which is unlike any other
parkour, but where I haven't played it for so
long, especially when I'm being chased, it's
just pure panic. I don't know the buttons. I
don't know what I'm doing. I'm fucking pressing
X to jump rather than R1 because R1 is to jump
and X is to kick. So I'm fucking in a full sprint
going to run up a building and then I'm just
fucking kicking the wall instead. That's so weird.
It's a weird layout. Why would I? It's a weird
layout, but when you actually play it, it works.
But I'm pretty sure you can swap it around. But
that's just how Dying Light's always been. R1
is the button for scaling walls and jumping.
It's like when they changed it in Assassin's
Creed when that all changed. Remember when it
was like parkour was easy and it flowed and then
it all of a sudden became really awkward in whatever
game it changed from. Yeah, then they fucked
it. Did you find out the mod? I found out some.
So number one is obviously improved UI. But then
you go a few down. The first few are pretty standard.
So improved UI, mod fixer, multiverse. So that
adds a lot of species and lineages. Hair, more
spells, more hair. Increase the levels. So it
goes above. The cap is 12. Now this one goes
to 20. It's obvious. Party limit change. Party
limit changes are cool. That would probably be
one of the ones I would do. So now you can just
have everyone with you. It would be mad. The
game would not be hard by that point. No, it
wouldn't. Because you end up having your eight
companions. Yeah. And you go, yeah, it's going
to be a bit of a breeze. So there would be ten
of us. That would be no different to a normal
D &D. If you turn around and went, yeah, the
adventure or whatever that's set out goes, yeah,
it's balanced for four to six players. And you
go, how many have you got? And you go, I've got
10. I mean, I still might float that to Steph
and just say, look, we can have fucking everyone
come out with us if we really wanted to. And
then it goes, more equipment. There's another
bit, not safe for work in there. Go on, what's
that bit? That was just literally basket full
of equipment, not safe for work. Was it just
dildos and shit? There's probably a few interesting
outfits there. Appearance editor, because you
can change your appearance, unique feet, and
then, ladies and gentlemen, we get down the list
to enhanced nude bodies. Yep. Cool. With, guess
how many downloads? It's going to be, is it in
the millions? It's in the millions. Fuck me.
Of course it is. 1 .7 million. 1 .7 million.
Enhances the nude bodies of female characters
by increasing their breast size, thighs and buttocks.
Jesus Christ. So I've got some people's favourites.
Yeah, Party Limit, Be Gone, plus Sit This One
Out, plus Teleport To You. Show approval ratings
in dialogue. Camp event notifications. Configure
movement speed 140%. Makes running around the
city much less of a pain. Fast launch. No splash
screen on startup. Marginally better pickpocketing.
Makes the pickpocket menu slightly larger. 50
% slower blood accumulation. Oh, because you
get covered in shit. As you fight, you do get
covered in blood and then it just sits on your
character until you have a rest or certain situations.
Carry weight increase, WASD movement. That I
could get, the carry weight, because it is annoying
when you have to balance all that shit when realistically
you just end up with stuff in your inventory
and you've got to take it back to camp and then
put it away. Achievement enabler. Oh, well, that's
kind of... You put mods on and most of the time
you need that. Yeah. Because putting on mods...
blocks your achievements blocks your achievements
so unless you've done all of that before you
know even now there's probably I could probably
look it up but there's going to be X amount of
achievements I haven't got yeah but I imagine
people would probably throw mods on so they could
do like the nightmare campaign because you know
there's the ultra hardcore ones you can try and
make that a little bit more bearable, but I don't
know if it actually allows that or not. I should
really type in PlayStation after the following.
Here we go. Best Baldur's Gate 3 mods for a PS5
player. Was that the same list? I don't know.
Blah, blah, blah. What mods do you recommend?
All the better mods by Quality of Life, Adjustable
Party Limit, D20 Initiative, Extra Encounters
by blah, blah, blah. cheaters spell scroll I'm
just reading none of these make any sense I wonder
if there is it once you download any mod it breaks
you out of achievements yeah that's usually the
way it always works with games that then open
up the mod aspect it's just a straight out no
mods achievements enabled if you do play with
mods they're going to disable it because it's
basically like cheats or you've got the option
of basically like that one that said oh cheats
cheats menu because you can yeah if you've got
mods there's a lot of ones that are like oh yeah
you get access to the debug menu that can take
you to i remember it in Like the fallouts, like
New Vegas and Fallout 3, if you enabled cheats,
it blocked all that because you could have access
to just a special room that had every armor.
So you could go from level one, you'd be like,
I've got the best armor in the game. Yeah. Now
nothing can defeat me. It does. It does block
you. So fucking hell. So even if you download
like a dice reskin. You're going to fucking lose
it. But do we really give a fuck about achievements?
Depends if you want them. Not really. If you're
going to put mods on anyway, then you just go,
okay, I'll just add the achievement enabler.
I'll flick through the list anyway and see what's
on there. But that party limit one does sound
quite cool because then you don't... Sex framework?
Custom sex animations? For little cut scenes,
yeah? Having a full -on bang fest. Yeah. Jesus
Christ, really? Oh, yeah. You don't know what
people are like, man. They did that for Oblivion
and all that shit. It's more the fact that people
sit down and they've actually had to go through
and make that. There you go. Hold on. I'm letting
that reload. Oh, wow. You can put on... Jesus
Christ. Yeah, people love that kind of stuff,
man. Well, yeah, I suppose. After seeing the
amount of Astarians at Comic Con when Baldur's
Gate had just come out. Astarian with tits. Fucking
tits. Just loads of naked Astarians. I said to
Steph, I said, what the fuck is the fascination
with Astarian? I don't get it. People just love
him. Yeah, but he's just... Here you go. Lewdgate
3. Total overhaul. Adult. Large. Not so full
of mud collection. Mad, isn't it? It's so fucking
mad. Published April this year. That's four gigabytes
worth of content. Four gigabytes? Yeah. Four
gigabytes of tits. Jesus Christ. You know what's
bad, though? Follow their mum with Steph, yeah?
Obviously, you've played it. And then, yeah,
come around Jules on the Saturday to play actual
D &D. And then all that happened when I got home
was I said to Steph, I was like, should have
made a warlock. Should have made a warlock. They're
fun. They're fun to be. That's the only downside
about a game like Baldur's Gate is it's so long
that to play... To redo. No, like you could do...
Explain that add class to me when you level up.
Oh, so the... What the fuck is that? The multi
-class aspect. Yeah, because every time I level
up it says I can add a class at the beginning.
That's just multi -classing. So you could go...
Some don't... It's the same with regular D &D.
Like every time you level up... you have the
option of having your starter class, which is
whatever you've picked. So in Baldur's Gate,
you've picked fighter. In actual D &D, you've
had your barbarian. Fighter, barbarian, monk,
fucking warlock. And then swap to, you had a
cleric, and then in the latest, you've got the
warlock, is that you can, when you hit a level
up, you don't need to stay in that class. So
you could then pick, so say you've got a warlock
in, This one, you've got old fucking Cinnamon.
Oh, Cinnamon Rainbow Dance. Cinnamon Rainbow
Dance the fairy. Yeah, the two -foot fairy, I
might add to everyone, with two -foot chicken
wings. Yeah. Works perfectly. Currently handling
a bag of shit. Handling a bag of shit. Yeah,
so that when you come to hit level two, you don't
have to stay in Warlock. You could. Obviously,
there's ones that synergy better. But you can
just go, so long as you hit the requirements,
usually that's stat requirement, that you could
just pick any of the other classes. But how does
that work though? Do I still retain the spells
from fighter? So say that you were going to do
that with your fighter, you would have everything
you have access to in that level. So say it's
level one, or say you did it for up to, yeah,
just go from level one to level two. Whatever
your skills, abilities and... and aspects are
granted from level one you then multi -class
into say barbarian yeah say you then get all
the bonuses from level one from both classes
then compiled into level two and then you get
the hit points of that next class from what you
rolled so you can just do the most cursed one
is you take every like one level from every class
yeah I bet that's fucking weird it's just gimped
all that is is it's just gimped what in a good
or bad way in a bad way because you get no like
top end stuff because you can't do anything yeah
but there is standard um so there's good balances
and bad balances so like if you're picking a
warlock the favorite is to multi -cluster paladin
because they share the same um like top stat
And I suppose a good multi -class would be what?
Fighter and Rogue? Fighter Rogue can be a good
one. Fighter Berserker. Fighter Barbarian is
another good one. Fuel picking, like a strength
based. I've got a Ranger Rogue multi -class.
Ranger Fighter. Ranger Fighter works. Rogue Fighter
works. Sorcerer Paladin works. There are some,
as long as the base. is the same base stat so
that would be like keep strength classes together
keep dex classes together keep like your spell
casting main ability the same as the one you're
going to go into so it wouldn't be if you're
going to go okay I'm going to pick a barbarian
and a wizard probably not smart it's doable but
it's not necessarily going to be good optimal
yeah so because they don't the stats don't line
up so let's say I'm a level 10 fighter now in
boulders gate I then level up to 11 and then
decide to add a class do I get all the benefits
of no you would get the benefits of 10 levels
of fighter yeah and then you would only get the
first level benefits of that next class you're
gonna pick so oh so then so so the level cap
is 12 so i've now got one more level to pick
whether i put that into so you went 10 oh i see
and then went to barbarian you would get all
the 10 first 10 levels abilities yeah yeah so
that would be um by that point i think you get
you would have two or three attacks all the other
bits like action surge second wind um by then
i think you get like indomitable which means
you can re -roll a failed save and all the little
like fighter tends to get a lot of all the gubbins
asis and improvements so that your ability score
improvements or the ability to take a feat which
would be like some sort of perk um but then when
you take that 11th level that then technically
if you were to pick like level one barbarian
yeah you only get the bonuses from the first
level of barbarian so that would be like access
to rage yeah hit dice pool rage would be cool
though that's why that's why a fighter barbarian
is very good yeah and people often do barbarian
heavy so you get all your rage you have additional
strength um higher hit pool hit dice pool yeah
because you get the d12 But they'll dip into
fighter to get action surge. Yeah. So the barbarian
can rage, have the decent hit points, obviously
halving damage. Yeah. And turning around and
going, okay, well, I'm going to action surge
now to the barbarian. And then increases, can
increase basically the attacks. Or they do it
the other way where they go, okay, I'm going
to be a fighter to X amount of levels, but I'm
going to do a little dip into barbarian so I
can get rage. So it'd be like you become a lot
more tanky, but you've still got your output
for damage. So an arcane archer with fucking
rage. That wouldn't be the best. Is rage only
a melee thing? Yeah. Rage doesn't transfer over
to... I wonder if I Google... But you would probably
end up instead picking, if you're going to be
an arcane archer, I would probably dip into,
say, rogue. If you're going to be ranged, because
then you can get access to sneak attack. Best
Arcane... I mean, I'm going to say Arcane Archer
subclass. Oh no, I was going to go Fighter. Best
Fighter subclass. The best Fighter subclass is
the Battlemaster. Yeah, I was about to say. What's
that? That gives you... Exceptional versatility,
battlefield control and damage potential. So
that gives you manoeuvres. So that's basically
additional... Oh, Battlemaster is in subclass.
Yeah. I'm thinking of... You mean you want like
best... Well, I'm not a fucking Battlemaster,
am I? You want best multi -class, best fighter
multi -class options. Trip attack, disarming
attack and menacing attack. Yeah, that's it.
Battlemaster, Eldritch Knight, Champion, Arcane
Archer, Samurai. Samurai. Samurai wasn't on there
for me. It probably isn't on... You won't find
that on Baldur's Gate, but that is in D &D. Oh,
right, okay. Samurai's all about you get the
option of having advantage on a lot of your attacks.
Best added class. And that's the only problem.
Baldur's Gate kind of kept it streamlined. That's
why they didn't, because there's a lot of classes
and there's a lot of third -party content to
get more classes. But Baldur's Gate kept it kind
of trim because, again, it was such a massive
game. that it was better to keep the game trimmed
down. That's why they didn't add all the classes
ever. Some obviously don't work for the setting.
It's not... I don't know what I'm supposed to
be typing in. Best joint class? Put... What do
you mean? Just put best D &D multi -classes.
If you wanted a... Best D &D. But that's where
it'll come up. Fighter Barbarian will be up there.
sorcerer paladin or warlock paladin will be up
there for like some of the the favorites fan
favorites there we go p best pg3 multi -classes
uh multi -classes are paladin warlock for potent
melee sorcerer tempest cleric for massive aoe
lightning damage and barbarian rogue for versatile
melee or throne attacks the paladin warlock lockadin
uses charisma for attacks That's quite cool.
Barbarian, yeah, Barbarian Fighter. Gains action
surge from fighter, providing a powerful burst
of action to cons. A more direct melee build,
lacking the unique combo style damage of other...
I mean, to be fair, I could just also not multi
-class and just stay as pure fucking... What
I need is a bow. You haven't got a bow? I've
got a crossbow. Okay. Yeah. They're sparing fucking...
I was going to say, as if you haven't found a
bow the whole time. No, it's a crossbow. I haven't
found any decent bows. The only bow that I found
that was relatively decent was from a vendor
and he wanted like 400 gold. I can steal it.
I ain't paying that. No, it was in the grove.
Steal it. It was in the grove. Steal it. And
we already know that we're looking after the
grove. We're not closing it all off. Just get
a starion to open up his chest. No, because he's
standing right there, the fucker. Well, distract
him. How do you do that? So you can talk to him.
One person can talk to him. Is that straight
up how it works? You're probably distracting
like that, yeah? I don't know what the button
is obviously on console, but on PC, and obviously
it will be for console, you'll probably have
to find it. There'll be a button where you can
go into stealth. Yeah, yeah. I can hide is what
it's... Yeah, so hit hide and it should show
you people's sight lines. so there'll be like
a red red outline of people's sight lines yeah
that if you have one person talking to your man
you can have one person in stealth and if you
avoid all the sight lines you can go to either
him or his chest and you should be able to get
the items that he is selling are then available
to be yeah but then does he then put does he
then pipe up if you've been robbed does he clock
on that you've been robbing him later on not
whoever's talking they might ask whoever's talking
to him but then you go i haven't got it And then
you just get the guy who robbed it, just legs
it, gets out of the way because he'll go, oh.
No, I'm saying like if you come back. No. Like
once you get past that initial like. That initial
phase. That initial bit of like, oh, I've been
robbed. And he goes around asking, have you seen
anything? Or let me check your pockets. And then
you go, like if you've scrawled it away or given
it to like another party member who's not in
the area. So long as it's not on that person
who's being questioned. You can get away with
it. Yeah, because they're not going to question
companions, are they? If they're in the area,
they might. But that's why you have... But we
could just snatch and run. But again, they're
smart pockets, so you can literally go, oh, you
can be talking to matey, and then you can have
Steph's character hanging around. but then you
can have the fourth party member can be the other
side. And you can just drop it in. The other
side of the grove and you can just smart pocket
it into the fourth person. Imagine that where
you've got that kind of realism where you go,
right, I'm talking to the vendor so he's distracted
so you can rob him. However, you can magically
teleport his entire inventory to someone that's
fucking in camp or whatever. Yeah, but that'd
be no different than like in D &D where they
go, you've got a bag of holding. So the man who's
got the thing just goes and puts it in his bag
and then they go. oh because you know go oh let
me check your bag hold and you go no you're not
going in you're not going in through my shit
right I didn't even think for a minute because
I'm playing it good because you could also pay
you can pay for the item but then you can rob
the gold back that's the best I could also rob
the items and the gold yeah yeah we've got to
start thieving some shit man unfortunately that's
the way It's the way the Baldur's Gate and Larian
kind of makes their games up to be that you can
just get away with doing that, which is a good
thing and a bad thing. You can play it as honest
as you want, but it's like there's almost just
an outright benefit to being like, okay, well,
I can buy the item and then I can steal back
the gold or I can just rob the item and just
not have to pay for it. It does get to a point
where by the end of the campaign, you'll just
have shit tons of gold. Yeah. But when you first
start out... Well, I like the bow that he had.
There is an argument to just fucking steal it.
Just fucking take it. Just take, take, take.
I'm going to try that later on. You might have
to do some save scumming, which is probably like...
Oh, yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? I mean,
we have save scummed a couple of times. I'm not
perfect. We're not a perfect couple. It's up
to you. The owlbear fucked us. As long as you
enjoyed having fun. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah,
I love being torn to pieces by that fucking thing.
We were just trying to save it. Yeah, Steph.
Actual D &D end. Yeah, Steph messed up the animal
talking check, animal handling check. Maniska's
going to love D &D chat today, isn't he? And
it fucking... Fuck him! Fuck him! but yeah it
messed that up and then we had to engage in combat
and I was like I don't want to kill it because
then it's babies left and then Steph googled
it and basically it dies anyway the goblins come
and fucking dispatch it you can you can get it
to come with you and come to your camp at some
point at some point we didn't kill any of them
I don't know what happened then. We didn't kill
any of them. No, I think you do come across it.
Because we save scummed and then did the animal
hand and then Steph actually rolled it properly
and then we managed to get away from it. Yeah.
I was like, I can't deal with it. It had like
90 health and took us out in one hit. I was like,
yeah, this isn't right. Oh no. Well, they fucking...
More D &D next week when me and Steph are still
playing it. If the ADHD holds on. Right, well.
Bestest friends. That's that. Can fuck off. No.
All right. All right.