Afternoon everyone, welcome to What's the Buttons
podcast. Episode 4. Yeah, episode 100 and something,
130 something, 140 something, in the hundreds.
Yeah. It's absolutely fucking sweltering. Thankfully,
we've been apart for... Like three weeks, a month,
something like that. So there's going to be a
plethora of things to talk about naturally. So
many, so many. Which is thankful because the
heat has zapped out any gaming capability from
me whatsoever. I am fucking shattered. It's terrible.
And all my other gaming powers are having the
same complaints. It's too hot to fucking get
any games in, which seems ridiculous because
all I want to do is sit indoors out of the heat
with a fan on my nutsack. So it's kind of like
prime gaming time, but it's just too fucking
hot. The gap between us is decent because a lot
has fucking happened. A hell of a lot. The fucking...
Summer Games Fest. Summer Games Fest. Switch
2. You're back on ESO. I'm back on ESO. The cross
-player announcement for ESO. The fucking Xbox
showcase. The Xbox handheld. Xbox announcement
that they're partnering up with AMD for the latest
Xbox. That's the big one that I want to talk
about. NetEase just announced, I say just announced,
15, 16 hours ago, a AAA game that Mark was talking
to me about called Blood Message. Looks very,
very similar to Assassin's Creed, but very fucking
good. Graphics look insane. Who fucks NetEase?
Who's NetEase? Oh, NetEase. NetEase, one of the
biggest. I thought you said NetEase. No, not
NetEase. NetEase, game developer. No, NetEase.
There seems to be a paving the way ever since
Black Myth Wukong for AAA games coming from places
like China, many Asian countries, which is quite
nice to see because that history in terms of
what you could throw into games is just endless.
It's like Vikings pretty much. You can just do
whatever the fuck you want with it. I love it.
I'd be remiss to not talk about Exposition 33.
Yeah. We need to do that for Sam at least. Okay.
Yeah, fucking hell. And that. One last final
hurrah. I've done exactly what I knew I would
do. Haven't touched it since I completed it,
which is fine. It's now deleted off the PlayStation
because I needed the storage for The Division
2, which I'm now also playing as well. You want
to go then? I don't mind. Go on. Obviously, there's
going to be spoilers, so you're going to have
to jump 10 minutes forward or whatnot and then
have a little listen to see if we're still talking
about it. It's been out for a while now. You
should have already finished it. I am going to
go against the grain and say it's all right.
It's all right. I thought it was good. No, let's
not beat around the bush. It's very good. It's
a fantastic game. It's not my taste. I don't
like the setting. I was getting to a point where
I was bored. To be perfectly honest with you,
I put it on easy about halfway through and just
bum -rushed it. And even then I got to a point
where I had to grind because I wasn't high enough
level. So even easy is not actually that easy.
You proper bum -rushed it. Jesus. Because, yeah,
I just... It's very good. I'll tell you what
is the best, quite possibly the best in any game,
is the music. It's great. Top tier. Phenomenal.
A lot of the story beats I'd already kind of
put together myself. I'd not put together, but
I was like, I bet she's her and I bet that's
a representation and I bet they're related. You
know, it wasn't many big surprises to me and
towards the end, I was getting confused. I was
like, I don't even know what we're looking at
now. I was getting confused. It was one of those
games where I was paying a lot of attention to
stick with the story and then sort of like in
the last couple of hours, I was kind of like...
what the fuck is actually going on and i was
i was just holding on and then when i did finish
it i googled the ending because obviously there's
two separate endings um and yeah it made it made
perfect sense but i had to i had to get on reddit
to actually find out what the fuck it meant i
picked the bad end and i let um i let her win
um whatever male i let her win so then he's in
the theater and she's sitting in the crowd yeah
yeah i did the other thing yeah you did the good
ending I didn't know what was the good end. I
just liked him. Yeah, him winning. What was his
fucking name? He wasn't Gustav. He was... He
just left the brain, finished the game. Verso.
Verso. Very cool character. Ben Starr voiced
by amazing. The characters were very cool. Yeah,
great. I really enjoyed it. I fucked around a
lot with the character builds, which I don't
normally do. Messed around with swapping people
in and out. Messed around with different builds
and shit like that. Monoko was my favourite geyser.
I made him an absolute tank. He just fucking
could not take damage. And yeah, I had a lot
of fun with it. But it was very much... Yeah,
I mean... I was getting bored but not getting
bored at the same time. I don't know if boredom
is the right word. Maybe a familiarity with it.
It was almost like I know what I'm doing and
I can almost switch my brain off a little bit
and continue to play and still get the same results.
There was definitely a lot of encounters where
I like the different levels and all the different
structures. And I liked the art design, but there
was definitely, I got to a point sort of like
two thirds of the way through in the game where
anything outside of a boss that I was encountering,
I just knew what was going to be effective against
those enemies. And I was in and out of combat
within like 15, 20 seconds. So just straight
in, straight out, straight in, straight out until
you get to a boss and then continue the story.
So little bits like that were somewhat. tedious
but at the same time i feel like if it was the
opposite of that it'd be fucking annoying so
can't really win um but yeah i think it's it's
it's a very very good game especially if you
don't like um what do they call them turn -based
turn -based games it's a it's a decent game to
jump into if you're if you're thinking about
about dabbling into that or if you're like me
and you've never outside of fucking pokemon and
boulders gate played a turn -based game then
it is good I think it deserves a lot of praise.
It's fantastic. It's a fantastic game. And I
think in a different setting, that game's my
jam. That's not my setting. If that was in World
of Warcraft world, Dungeons and Dragons world,
I'm all over it. But the setting, as I said before,
the modern switching between modern and post
-apocalyptic and fantasy, it was all too much
for me. There was a lot of jumble there. Yeah,
so... setting wise it's just not for me but I
thought the characters were great the game was
great story's a bit convoluted I think that might
just be my small monkey brain I can't comprehend
things because everyone else seems to get it
and then I think I'm the same as you man I YouTubed
the story just to make sure I got what I needed
out of it be like oh right yeah I may have missed
that bit like understanding yeah very good game
Won't play again. And now we close the book on
Claire Obscura Expedition 33. I'm very happy
I played it. I'm extremely happy that I played
it. And I do think it does deserve its, it definitely
deserves its flowers. And in the game of the
year, shout. And fortunately or unfortunately,
I think it probably will win. Just for the size
of the studio and how it's come about, more than
the game. What they've done is fantastic with
who they've done it with. But for me, still,
my game of the year, still Kingdom Come to Live,
it's still a mental game. What they've achieved
is, Mind -boggling. And that is the last you're
going to hear of Expedition 33 as we banged on
about it for the last fucking four, five, six
episodes. That's that fucked off. Sorry, Sam.
I know you loved it. We loved it too. I loved
it. You loved it. I enjoyed it. Next thing on
the list of the group, I would like to delve
into that Xbox handheld. Go ahead, because I
know very little. I watched it. I know little
about it. You're the tech guy. There's not a
massive amount that come out of... There's not
a massive amount of knowledge, but for quite
a few conversations that we've had in terms of
where we've seen gaming going, that is almost
exactly what we fucking said is going to happen,
where it's going to that handheld, play -everything
-on -anything type, and that is exactly what
Xbox is going for. They want you to be able to
play whatever game, wherever, and have it all
cloud -based so you can just fucking keep flicking
between the two, which is basically what this
handheld's going to allow you to do. They've
partnered up with Asus, so you know the ROG Ally.
It's basically that, but customised as Xbox.
What you're essentially getting is a fucking
Xbox Series X. in a handheld it's a powerful
fucking device uh and the sort of like the ui
and everything on it will be um game pass will
be on it and as far as i'm aware i think it will
just it will be microsoft will be the the the
system on it so you'll be able to have access
to shit loads of games just having game pass
on it will be fucking cool and like i said it's
cloud based So anything that you play on that,
you'll be able to then jump onto your Xbox, PC,
whatever, and continue playing from that. That's
the winner. Which is quite cool. They've openly
come out and said that the console wars for them
are done. They just want everyone to enjoy games
on everything. It's easy to say when you've lost,
right? It is easy to say when you've lost, but
at the same time, it's also very... fuck the
wars you don't need them anymore especially not
now and we've been saying that for for fucking
almost three years now that it's just it i remember
i remember when we were sat at the old house
in the fucking um in the outhouse and having
that conversation where i said that the tech
will hit a point where the the the gaps between
previous gen and the current gen are nowhere
near as big as they used to be, and you'll plateau
and have to look elsewhere for advancement. And
I feel like the handheld scene, like when the
Steam Deck come out, and we was big on that and
talking about that subject matter, is exactly
where it's heading to. And now that the console
wars sort of aren't a thing, really... for xbox
is just grabbing that by the fucking balls and
going all right well we we want you to be able
to fucking jump on everything so here you go
have at it it's the same with the latest xbox
that they're bringing out alongside um not alongside
the handheld but same sort of news is going to
be partnered with um amd so they're going to
make that fucking crazy powerful but at the same
time the um operating system that's going to
be on the Xbox will be Microsoft rather than
Xbox so you'll be having access to a shitload
of stuff through your Xbox rather than a PC so
it's just all about that you can see that they're
building a base to just fucking have everything
which I like I'm all for it I'm all for it The
only thing that can be a downside to that is
without competition, there's no innovation. So
PlayStation, Xbox are always battling it out,
trying to one -up each other. And if that doesn't
exist anymore, and Nintendo, obviously, if that
doesn't exist anymore, then are we in a place
where no one's going to push? In the grand scheme
of things, you just want to be able to play whatever
you want on whatever you want, right? That's
the dream. But then does that come at the sacrifice
of not... None of them innovating enough because
they push each other forward. I feel like you're
still... Because Sony's obviously doing their
own thing. I feel like now they have to be working
on a handheld. I know they've got the Portal,
but that's not a handheld to the same standard
as what is coming out. So I feel like there's
your competition in that Steam's doing this fucking...
Xbox is doing this, Asus is doing this, all with
handhelds. Sony's tried something of it with
a portal. I know they didn't market it as the
same kind of handheld, but you can't ignore that.
You've then got the Switch 2 that's thrown into
that as well. A far more capable Switch to its
genesis. So it's difficult to ignore that space.
And I feel like through having a competition
of handheld devices and what each one can do
and the quirks from that, I feel like you're
going to get innovation and competition in terms
of games naturally spew off from that. Because
I feel like the next course of action will be
how fucking powerful can we make a handheld and
how good can we make the games run on it? Because
obviously right now you jump on your Steam Deck,
you can play a lot of games on it that are decent,
but there's also a hell of a lot of games that
you have to tune the fuck down to be able to
play it. And I feel like that is the next piece
of the puzzle that needs finding, is how do we
put AAA games onto a handheld device that's going
to run almost the same as what it would do if
you banged it on a console. It's a natural progression.
100%. We'll get there. I mean, they do run a
lot of them just at 30 FPS, right? Yeah, but
that's the other milestone, isn't it? Getting
rid of something like 30 frames per second and
being able to run that run shit on 60 frames
per second, which is, that's a hurdle that's
already been... leaped over in terms of consoles,
especially on a fucking PC. Because right now,
if a game releases and it's native on 30 frames
per second, everyone kicks off about it because
you go, what the fuck is archaic? Why are we
doing this? It's ridiculous. I mean, we still
hold that grudge now when you have the option
between performance and fidelity. Let me run
fidelity at 60 frames per second. Why can I not
do this? Performance at 120. Yeah, still happens
at some games. So that... That issue is almost
disintegrated. So I feel like that's the natural
progression in terms of a handheld is you'd look
towards that. And then I think through there
you're just going to get other games. Naturally.
Naturally. Because everyone needs to make fucking
money. Me too. It's too fucking hot. You know
what I mean? I know what you mean. Moving on.
I don't know nothing about consoles. Pandas.
I'm terrible shit like that. What else came out
that you saw on there? On the showcase or whatever?
I don't know. More Outer Worlds 2 stuff. Right,
yeah. Looked quite cool. That's a game that I'm
very interested in. I know you weren't a massive
fan of the first one, but I'm a big fan. I like
it. That's cool. Yeah, let's have a little...
Because you can pre -purchase that for $80. And
that comes out on October 29th, 2025. There were
just a little more trailers and gameplay and
shit like that. Nothing crazy. I do like the
perks and shit that they're bringing in. The
ones where they've got a downside to them. And
they showcased one where it was you're always
moving faster when you're crouched down. But
the downside to that is when you stand up, your
knees pop, and it alerts everyone around you.
Nice, yeah. That's funny. I just thought that
was quite entertaining. So I'm interested to
see what other ones they bring out that have
little quirks like that. In terms of the rest
of the showcase, I feel like it happened so long
ago. I did sit here and watch it. Summer Game
Fest was good. You saw the new James Bond. Yeah,
James Bond was cool. Rest of it was a bit waft,
though. Yeah, I'm trying to pull back some information.
I think that's why we can't think of anything.
Death Stranding 2 showed some of that. Yeah.
Let me have a look. Let me do a quick little
goggly box. Oh, Resident Evil they showed, or
some of it. It was Requiem. Very cool, very cool.
Can't really see. There we go. I just want a
highlight of everything that was there. Nintendo
Direct is next month. Catch the latest Pokemon
news on July 22nd at 6am PST. There was that
weird game that was announced and it was like
Pokemon, but not Pokemon, but not Power World.
Digimon. Was it that one? Was it Digimon? I think
Digimon, yeah. Not interested in it. You're going
to have to help me out. It's Digimon. It's Pokemon,
isn't it? But it's Digimon. It's old. It's old.
I think it came out before Pokemon. Yeah, I think
it was. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I feel like
they've missed the boat for, you know, monster
games, Pokemon games. Unless they can make Pokemon
what people want. Because people want Pokemon
to fucking make something powerful instead of
just the same regurgitated shite. Well, what
would you want? Well, you want Power World, but
with Pokemon. You want, like, that level of,
like, innovation where it's just the same shit.
It's the same drop into a world, fucking run
around, beat the gym leaders, and that's it.
And it's always the same art style, right? So
it's gone from, like, a top -down 2D art style
to now it's got this 3D shit but runs at, like,
12 frames a second. I mean, when are they going
to make the GTA of Pokemon? When are they going
to make it the fucking pinnacle? Because as we've
said millions of times, it's the biggest IP on
the planet. Would you still want it to hold to
its turn -based combat? Well, this is up for
them to innovate, right? But yeah, I mean, they
can have the turn -based. They've got enough
money, is what I'm saying, to make the next GTA.
But in the Pokemon world. Yeah. They just need
to innovate, man. They're so stuck in their old
ways. And don't get me wrong. I love Pokemon.
I love the Pokemon games. Yep. But I'm sick of
seeing the same shit every fucking year. They
need to make it, you know, it feels like they
just go, I'll stick that out. They'll buy that
Pokemon. That's what I feel like they do. And
then they, they come up with names like fucking,
you know, grass carrot. And then it's, I say
grass. You've got, you've got so many. Look at
Pokemon cards, for example, and the difference.
Fuck knows how many sets have come out since
we were collecting them. The last one I was grabbing
was Crown Zenith. Roman's massive into his Pokemon
cards at the moment. So, obviously, I see a lot
of what he's buying and what's coming out and
shit like that. But they're just bringing out
the same stuff over and over again, which is
with different artwork. It looks very, very cool,
but obviously it sells. And when you've got that
paired with how much money you can make from
buying and selling cards and keeping hold of
them and blah, blah, blah, then you've got a
license to print money there. And I feel like
that is the same with the Pokemon games. I feel
like the question for them is, do they need,
do they really need to do anything else? Well,
no, but I feel like... They don't, but if they
want to blow the stratosphere off and become
like a main fucking eSport, I feel like they
could become the GTA. I thought their anger with
Power World was foreshadowing of them having
something in the pipeline that was similar. Well,
that's what I thought, but then they released
the fucking, oh, we're just doing this, and it's
just the same shit again. Yeah. Where is it?
Where's the next fucking evolution of Pokemon?
Excuse the pun. You know what I mean? Where's
the open world proper with things to do in it?
They could make it so interactive. What was the
one that was where you could run around? You
had that Pokemon that was like your motorbike,
really fucking weird. Was that Arceus? That's
the one I just played. No, RCS was the olden
days Pokemon, but it's the same style. It's Scarlet
and Violet, I believe. Scarlet and Violet, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Yeah, where you had that Pokemon
bike thing is fucking weird, but is that not
akin to what you're talking about? I've never
played it. No, it's just the same shit, but just
in 3D, and it runs... quite possibly the worst
running game I've ever played. It literally runs
at like 12 frames a second. It's embarrassing.
This is what I mean. You're putting out this
shit when you've got fucking indie developers
making better... What's the word? Optimized games.
Do you know what I'm saying? That's the big thing.
They can't make Pokemon optimized enough to make
it run decently. It's shocking. Shockingly bad.
The weird thing which sort of... leads me to
think that maybe you're just not going to get
what you want from Game Freak is the fact that
they announced that game they make Beasts of
Reincarnation. Have you seen that? No, I don't
think so. Maybe. It looks fucking mental and
it does not look anything that Game Freak would...
It looks almost like a Dark Souls. Japanese set
fucking... I mean, you're not going to like the
first sentence. Post -apocalyptic Japan. I don't
mind that. Japan's good. It's just the post -apocalyptic
bit. Yeah, I don't mind post -apocalyptic if
I just don't like the merging of all these different
things. Humanity's last hope may rest with Emma
and her loyal canine companion, Kuu, explore
what it means to be human in Beast of Reincarnation,
an expansive one -person, one -dog action RPG
built around demanding technical combat. And,
yeah, it looks like boss battles. It looks...
like a souls like to me um i went on reddit to
look at it literally the first comment so why
not pokemon games cannot look like this because
it looks very very pretty very good i see i saw
the trailer thought this game looked sick and
i had the same reaction that so many other people
did and then saw loads of videos of people reacting
to it because the minute that you see the logo
pop up for the developer and it goes game freak
and you go what the actual fuck is like this
is so far removed from anything game freak has
ever done it crazy um so maybe that's a reason
as to why they're not but they're so good at
pokemon they're so good so why would you I'm
with you, to be fair. It's just a slap in the
face to people. It doesn't bother me that much
because I'm not into Pokemon the way I know other
people are, but I feel like they need to do more.
It's just not good enough. It's the same, sort
of the same spectrum as how you're so desperate
for another Battlefront. Oh, yeah, yeah. But
then, this is what I'm saying, Game Freak, is
it down to them? Because they're not the owners
of Pokemon. They might make Pokemon games, but
surely that's just licensed out by the Pokemon
company. Yeah. So surely they can go, hold on,
fucking, I don't know, Obsidian, Bethesda, fucking,
I don't know, I'm thinking of anyone. Can you
imagine that? Bethesda's making the next Pokemon.
Yeah, but surely they can go, right, you're licensed
to make this game. We give you the freedom to
go make a Pokemon game. I don't know what that
looks like, but they need to do more. Even if
what they've already done... is the max they
need to do, then they need to optimise that because
it's not good enough in today's day and age to
have a game that can't even hit 30 FPS. Yeah,
no, I agree. Especially from Pokemon. What did
I say something about? Someone said... I swear
I saw news about Battlefront 3. Oh, they've been
talking about it for ages. And it's rumoured.
Yeah, it's because of all the devs coming out
because of... Battlefront 2 had a massive resurgence.
We hit another massive player peak. Hit a new
concurrent player peak, I believe. What was the
reason for that? I think it was... I can't remember
what it is, like Star Wars Day or something,
but not... I don't think it was May the 4th,
but there was some sort of... I think every year
they have like a Star Wars day where everyone
gets back into something. Yeah, yeah. And yeah,
they all got back into it on that and then it
just blew up. Everyone was playing like, fucking
hell, this is great. Why are we not playing this?
And I've said it from day one. They fucked up
then. They released it with loot boxes. And it
was not just loot boxes. It was loot boxes that
you needed to open to unlock shit. It was just
a terrible, terrible system. They got backlash,
rightly so. They went back. They fixed it. Took
all that shit out. Made it the game it should
be and went, see you later. It was like, no,
no, no. You can monetize this. Just do it properly.
Yeah, don't bring loot crates in that are anything
other than cosmetic. Literally, just make a battle
pass. Just do a season. I've said this a hundred
times. It's the perfect game to just do the Call
of Duty Battle Pass system and every three months
have a new hero or villain to be the hundredth
tier fucking character unlock. Why not? If you
want to monetize it, do it that way rather than...
Yeah, it baffles me. You wonder who makes these
decisions. It really does confuse me because
when all these battle boxes, loot crates, whatever
the fuck they're called... When they came out,
it wasn't like, oh, I bet people are going to
take to this. It was already under a microscope.
Everyone was already like, fuck loot crates.
Fuck FIFA packs. Fuck all this shit. So why then
go on? Let's just stick these in. Well, no, like
you say, you keep them in if you like, but definitely
don't make it important. Definitely just make
it like an optional fucking thing. Just make
it cosmetic. That's all you need. All you need
to do is go down the same route that Fortnite
do. And you go, just make the shit. That is a
prime example of monetizing your game to its
maximum potential without pissing off the fan
base. I mean, obviously, it helps when 90 % of
your fan base are fucking children because they
don't really have developed minds to worry. I
mean, all they've done is they've stolen mum
and dad's credit card to buy some skins. Whereas
the 10 % of adults that, for whatever reason,
do play Fortnite, God help you. The cosmetics
are fucking good. Really fucking good. You could
have a season that runs, you know, quarterly,
so every three months of the year. And then,
say, your 100th tier is Darth Maul. You unlock
Darth Maul to players. Sick. Loot crates and
in the store you can have Darth Maul skins. and
upskins you could have so many Darth Mauls you
could have Spider Darth Maul you could have fucking
Rebels Darth Maul you could have fucking Episode
1 Darth Maul you could have hood up hood down
fucking battle damage whatever you want you could
fill it up with shit like that but no you just
went loot boxes and that's it Just absolutely
mental. And they blew it. Because that game now
still is graphically better than a lot of games
that come out. Yeah, it looks very good. It's
amazing. Very, very good. And it's a fantastic
game as well. It's like Battlefield 4, Battlefield
5. But there's a lot of games where you've got
Battlefront 2. I have Anthem. That's hands down
my fucking... I so badly wish that that... got
a resurgence and got someone else to carry on
developing that and updating it and building
on that because to this day, there isn't a flying
mechanic that's been implemented into another
game and been so seamless in its combat transition.
It's such a fucking cool game. I really, really,
really enjoyed it. And you can still play it.
It's just... You can't. It's a live service game
that isn't live service anymore. Battlefront
2 is kind of toast anyway, isn't it? Because
EA, I don't think they have the rights anymore,
so they can't make Battlefront 3. Does that mean
that EA have the rights to Battlefront 3, or
does it mean that Star Wars has the rights to
Battlefront 3 and they can commission another
company to make it? Fuck knows. No one knows
the intricacies. It's the same as with the Battle
Royale fad, something that we both... were very,
very deep into. Loved them. Loved them. I fucking
hate them now. I hate them. And I feel like the
minute a game implements a battle royale, then
it's fucking snowballing downhill. Splitgate.
Splitgate 2. Fucking prime example. The geezer
stood there and was saying how much you wanted
Titanfall 3, blah, blah, blah. Fuck COD. And
then fucking, yeah, fuck COD. We want our games
to be like Halo. we want Titanfall 3. And then
after that sentence, you then say, so here's
our battle royale. The thing that killed Titanfall
3. Because what happened? Apex Legends, Shadow
dropped. And then any fucking wish of Titanfall
3 coming, gone. Very true, very true. No fucking
chance. Because Apex Legends is one of the most
popular battle royales there is, or was when
it first came out. And it was so fucking good.
We absolutely loved it. Still is... relatively
good I haven't played it for a very long time
I'm sure it is fine but I'm just not in that
world so to have the cheek to stand there and
go we wanted this game so desperately but here's
our carbon copy of the game mode that killed
this game that we wanted so desperately for fuck's
sake come up with something else there's only
so much innovation that you can throw into a
fucking battle royale Jesus Christ but people
lap it up like I say I'm going to be critical
because I'm not in that world I don't like them
anymore So it's easy for me to sit here and slag
them off. But I just don't... Like I said to
some of the lads when I was talking about the
Splitgate one, in my head, once you get a win,
it's done, isn't it? You've done what you wanted
to. You're like a dog chasing a car. Well, I've
caught up with the car now. I don't want it.
Let me go home. I've got a win. What the fuck
else do you do after that? You do exactly what
something like Fortnite does. You bring out really
cool cosmetics that resonate with many, many,
many people. Or... You have something like Battlefront
where it's just a fun game. Even the latest iteration
of Battlefield. I'm not excited for that. Because
they fucking burnt us to a cinder in 2047. Yeah,
you're definitely going to be a sceptical about
it. The next Black Ops is coming out. That looks
shit. What the fuck was that? I thought it was
another Control. I genuinely, I was watching
the trailer. I was like, this looks quite cool.
I was like, I think this is another control.
And I was like, I don't know why it's on the
showcase. And then boom, seeing that it's another
COD, I was like, what the fuck? But it hasn't
even been a year since Black Ops 6. No one wants
futuristic COD. No. No one asked for that. No
one wants it. I'll tell you. They're struggling
as it is. So to do that is just now in the coffin.
I don't know what they're thinking. World War
II. was one of my favourite CODs, I reckon. I
feel like that was an idea that was just left
to rot, that could have been built upon, that
having your own sort of like base camp where
you could run around and interact with different
people and the Easter eggs and even that, the
loot boxes in that, where they'd come smashing
out the sky and then fucking open up and everyone
could gather around and see what you were getting
from them and shit like that. I really liked
that. That was cool. That was a real decent cod.
I sunk a shit ton of hours into that. And then
it just feels like that idea was exited out of
the mind. Very sad, really. Fuck them. Yeah.
I'm just not interested in cod. No. Not right
now. It's not my cup of tea. I'm more interested
in MMOs. Yeah, I know. You snuck that under the
radar. Jump back into that one. Very quickly,
before we jump into ESO, Irish Connor actually
downloaded New World again. And I was like, oh,
go on then. Downloaded it. You need a PlayStation
Plus subscription to play it, so that got immediately
uninstalled. I don't have an active subscription.
I was like, you can go fuck yourself. And then
another issue that I had, which isn't an issue,
but is bought the Division 2 again for six quid
on the PlayStation Store. Playing it, loving
it. Already got it. Disc version. It's been so
long since I've played it. I was like, I swear,
I swear I've got this on disc and I do. It was
the first game we played together. It was, yeah.
Because you took me to the Dark Zone and said,
I'm off. See you later. You can't leave me in
here. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, so I'm
dabbling in and out of that. But ESO. ESO. Tasty
little number. Oh, is it just. Yeah. Mmm. get
me in get it in me amongst me around me through
me whatever way you can put it in me I'm in I'm
so into that ecosystem I'm in the walls yeah
what go on talk to me about it it's great I don't
know what to say that you don't already know
it's just great I love it what are you playing
as did you start a new character yep Necromancer
yep Solex cool I completed the main story yep
I'm sick of doing that I'm ignoring it I liked
it. The main reason I did it was because the...
You get a lot of skill points and shit from it.
Nah, nah. I'm not playing it for that. I'm not
rushing. I'm chilling. Have you ever played it?
The main story? Yeah. I have, but not to completion.
Right, okay. That explains it. I've done it like
fucking ten times. I hate it. Yeah, see, I haven't.
So, yeah, I've done that. I finally finished
that. But the only reason I concentrated on the
main story was because the new... expansion season
whatever actually extends that story yeah so
people have been waiting fucking 10 years to
see what happens next I've got to wait 5 minutes
so yeah I assume I've finished what is the story
so you fight Molag Bal yep and then Molag Bal
yeah and then he fucks you off and then Rydia's
like oh you're great anyway off you go and then
that's it so I'm assuming that's the end of that
And then, yeah, I'm started. Because the update
come out for, I know you've probably had it fucking
for a month, you scrub. But the update for the
new season came out yesterday for PlayStation,
for consoles. Because it come out like two weeks.
I'm playing it on this. Yeah, that's what I mean.
It come out like two weeks earlier on PC. Oh,
shit, sorry. So I've finally just. I haven't
got the latest DLC, by the way. no but the subclassing
stuff that's new subclassing is cool man so that's
i'm enjoying that came out yesterday for us have
you done it for have you had a chance to do any
of the subclass yeah yeah yeah i went there i
went there yes well i went there the first day
it came out yeah you can tell that it's like
um like a new thing because everyone's here it's
like 40 000 people standing on this one mpc yeah
um so yeah i went there Got paralysed by choice,
got scared. All the menus coming up saying, oh,
you're going to be locked in. I was like, I don't
know what to do. She gives you a fucking thing
to just respec it. Yeah, so I went away and waited
a day. Give it some thought as to what I actually
wanted to subclass into. So you're a necromancer
slash... Sorcerer. Sorcerer. Which is, ironically,
the opposite way Solex does it in D &D because
he's a sorcerer trying to become a necromancer.
So is that because you want the familiar and
the... The dragon thingy, the harpy thing? It's
not. It's because that was the only build that
I could find online. Oh, I'm not looking at it.
The way that I'm playing it, because obviously
Steph's always loved it, and I was like, fuck
it, let's jump back into it. And, yeah, I'm not
falling into that trap. I'll do it with WoW.
But with ESO, the freedom of choice is so vast.
I know there's metas. I know there is. But I
also know that I'm never going to be doing the
end tier content like hardcore within ESO. So
therefore, I don't give a fuck about the meta.
I really don't. As long as me and Steph can have
fun playing it, I don't care. So as far as builds
have gone, nothing. So what I am, I am an arcanist
who is also subclassing as a warden. because
I want the fucking bear and I have the bear.
So I've got my little, well, I say little, my
huge bear, which is the ultimate, which just
stays with me permanently. I've got one of the
new companions. I can't remember his name. He's
a Khajiit. I think he's a necromancer, technically.
He's quite cool. And yeah, I fire fucking green
triangles at people and tentacles while my bear
mobs them. It's very fun. Yeah, I'm not following
a meta. I'm just following a build. It's different.
I just want something that's functional where
I can solo stuff and not be like, ah, I'm fucking
stuck. Sorcerer's very, very good. I was playing
that before my last ESO stint playing as a sorcerer.
They're basically a fucking warlock. Yeah, well,
I've only got the storm calling skill line at
the moment, so... So you do one skill line at
a time, I don't know. But I turn into lightning
and stuff. Yeah, so you won't get... Because
Daedric Summons is the one where you get the
familiar and then the other one. But that thematically
makes sense with the Necromancer, so maybe I'll
do that skill line after. But yeah, I just want
to be able to go into the good shit and do the
good shit and not be the one letting the team
down. Yeah, yeah. No, I see what you mean. I
see what you mean. But once I've got my... my
feet wet and I understand how the builds work
because there's a lot of one bar stuff as well.
A lot of people, one bar build and stuff and
I'm like, that's probably better for me. Yeah,
yeah. Because there's less buttons to press.
I thought, yeah, because the two bar is, it's
easy on PC. Console is a little bit more finicky
to fuck around with two bar. Yeah, because you've
just got to press the D -pad every time you want
to swap to the other. Yeah, whereas on, I've
got it so that on, On PC, I just keybound it
to Q. Obviously, Q is your quick slot, and then
just keybound my quick slot to Shift, so they're
still next to each other, and then it's a lot
easier. I remember when I first started playing
ESO, when I was the sorcerer and I had the fucking
harpy thing. I can't remember what it's called,
but it's an ultimate. I couldn't work out for
ages why when I was swapping bars, I was losing
those because she wasn't slotted in on an ultimate
as well on the other bar. So you've got to keep
them active. So it's the only downside to having
that is that you have to have two of the same
ultimates. Do you follow? You're frowning. You
don't follow? I don't have to have two of the
same ultimates. No, you don't have to have two
of the same ultimates. I'm saying if your ultimate's
a summon, so like my Warden, Warden, for example,
my ultimate is to have that bear active. If I
don't have that in the second slot and swap over
to it, I lose that bear. So I have to swap back
and re -summon it, which in combat does not really
fucking work. I had one fight on ESO. This geezer
was giving it in the town. So I had to scrap.
This is what I was downloading, the little video
of me fighting him. Yeah. Oh, you had a duel?
Yeah, yeah. He was like level 233. I'm only level
38. Yeah, yeah. But he wasn't expecting me to
pull out the big move. Oh, what was the big move?
I'm just waiting for my ultimate to tick up there,
look. Yeah. He's slapping me. Oh, no. I've turned
into the Necromancer, Lord of Destiny and Death.
Get fucking... Is that a necro skill, yeah? Get
melted, bro. Oh, my God. The scaling's fucking
off. Yeah, bro. And then I had to use a rip thing
to clear my bounty. Oh, because you killed him.
Yeah, in town. Look at how sick he looks, though.
It does look cool. It's a very cool thing. Oh,
so that's what they mean when you hover over
necromancers. That's the warning that pops up,
isn't it? It's like if you use necro skills within
a town. oh yeah people get pissed off yeah yeah
so we've kind of gone down different paths I
just made D &D Solax and the crazy thing is is
I'm starting to like Solax more than Rain which
I never thought would happen but he just seems
to be I think it's because I never ever played
as a mage or any magician fucking sorcerer shit
so I've played now the first game I did it on
was Dragon's Dogma 2 wasn't it And since then,
I think every RPG I've played, I've started making
mages. Yeah, oddly for me, like with WoW, I'm
purely melee. As much as I love the look of a
ranged class and the fantasy of them, I just
can't get with it. So I'm always, I just, big
sword bonk is what I want to do. Whereas for
some reason in ESO, get me on the range. I want
to be fucking, I want to be away from everyone
and sending shit in. I feel like... an arcanist
slash necromancer would be a really cool combo
um the subclass and shit is cool man i mean i'm
enjoying that and and the fact that you can once
you once you level up that subclass to its max
level it no longer counts towards your pot of
subclasses so you can have equipped a maximum
of two can't you i think um you have to have
one You have to have your main. You have to have
your main and you can have two subs knocking
around. And if you get one to max level, which
is 50, that no longer counts towards having taken
up one of those slots. So I don't know how that
works theoretically because there's only so many
skill points that you can allocate. But still
very, very interesting. There'll be some fucker
there, if you are allowed to do it, that will
have everything maxed out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
But, yeah, we haven't got ESO Plus yet. I think
that if you've already got a character that's
maxed out, that's already unlocked, ready to
go for you. Yeah, I think so. I think that's
how it works. You don't have to level them up.
So anyone that's been playing it for 10 years
probably has all the characters. They just go,
oh, I'll have this and this and this. It would
have been nice to sort of get a little bit more
of a storyline based around that subclassing.
Because I feel like you went and spoke to the
woman. She asked you to get a couple of bits,
some fucking berries and shit. And you come back
and she went, ah, sorcerer, you can now fucking
summon earth from the ground and smash people's
faces in with it. I didn't have to do anything.
I just spoke to her. You just chatted to her.
There you go. You're smart. Look at this book.
Yeah. Flick through this and then pick what you
want to fucking be. It's typical MMO stuff. It's
cool though. I do enjoy it. I've always been
a massive fan of how everything in ESO is voice
acted and voice acted well. I've been listening
to all the story I've had my headphones on I've
been paying attention I've always liked that
aspect of it which I feel like a lot of MMOs
can really learn from I would absolutely love
it if World of Warcraft was like that that wow
itch is definitely coming back because there's
the new raid has been announced and the PTR builds
which is where they're testing everything It
looks really fucking cool. I'm going to re -roll
a new character. I had my fun as a Guardian Druid.
Put that to bed. That was great. The Paladin
has been put to bed through last season as well.
I'm now going to go completely outfield. And
play a Warrior. Which was something that I was
maining before the Paladin. Because they can
just hold two massive, massive weapons. And smack
the shit out of things. And I feel like that's
fun. So I'm going to do that. Well, I subscribe
to ESO Plus. Yeah. And I also just bought the
big edition fucking. Yeah. I went the premium
double deluxe. So now I own everything. Yeah.
Not that that was important, but I was getting
so confused as to what. I was watching videos,
I was reading things. If you've got this, buy
this. If you haven't and you're going to get
an ESO, fuck this. Just let me think so I never
have to think about it again. And now anything
that comes out, I just know that that's the only
one I haven't got every time. Yeah, it just basically
means that you can drop your ESO Plus and you'll
still have the DLCs. Yeah, I just won't have
the crafting bag. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
Which, I mean, it's a nice touch that you just
buy ESO Plus and you've got access to everything.
I don't mind. But you can still, you can buy
those with crowns. Yeah, yeah. So eventually
you can just buy all of them. I don't see why
you would ever fucking, I don't know. I just
think if you're going to play it and you're just
going to play it for free, I'll just subscribe.
You get access to everything. It's a cool way
to do it. It's no different to WoW, really. You
pay a subscription, you buy the latest expansion.
That's it. You've got access to everything. There's
no point locking you out. Especially if it's
not current anymore. I'm looking at buying a
house because the housing system in that is massive
and it's something you just fuck with the houses.
I've yet to find a place that suits. Are the
houses locked to the account or the character?
Because I have quite a fat house on Arasuki.
I would imagine account. Because you've bought
them. With crowns, I assume it would be account
-wide. Account -wide. Let's have a fucking look.
What does AI say? Yes, in the Elder Scrolls Online,
houses are account -wide, meaning any house purchased
or acquired by any character on your account
can be accessed and used by all characters on
that account. This includes the initial, a friend
in need, tutorial quest homes, crown store purchases,
and any homes obtained through other means. Yeah,
so my mate at work, he's played it for the last,
God knows how many years, he's got something
like 8 ,000 hours or something. It is mental.
But he can't read, so I find it fascinating how
he can't play any other games. He just plays
an MMO, which is the most confusing kind of game
to play. Voice acting, motherfucker. Yeah, I
know, but you've still got to fucking look, oh,
this is 1 ,700 magicka damage, and this is, that
ain't voice acted, is it? Yeah, but it just highlights
shit, doesn't it? It goes, this stuff makes it
go green. This red stuff means this is worse.
Yeah, I don't know. Good luck. But yeah, he's
bought a fucking... He bought a boat. He's been
saving up crowns. It's a houseboat. It costs
like 16 ,000 crowns or so, which is just mental
real money. That's a lot of money. But yeah,
because they rotate in and out. So I haven't
really found one that I like thematically. The
one that I absolutely love and have always wanted
but never had the crowns for it and also dips
in and out is during Christmas, the snow globe.
oh nice it's a fucking huge gaffe in a snow globe
um and yeah when you're outside of the snow globe
obviously it is just a tiny snow globe and you
walk up to it it's like on a table and then fucking
boom you're in this fat house and you can see
out of the snow globe and like the outside world
that's sick i love it It's fucking cool. It's
really cool. I mean, yeah, they've got a whole
dedicated fan base that just do the fucking houses.
Yeah, because there's so much shit you can do.
Thousands and thousands of items, furnishing,
put it where you want. So I'm going to make Solax
a proper little necromancer fucking place. Fair
play to ESO Online because it is... I feel like
I'll always sing its praises because whilst I
definitely don't take it as seriously as WoW,
there's so many things within that game that...
make it so incredibly good like i said the voice
acting is is is one of the top things that makes
it so good um the freedom to do pretty much whatever
you want with your character uh and the the fact
that it's one of the very few mmos where you
do just feel free to do whatever the fuck you
want and you can do it me and steph for example
we're just going through the prologue quests
that's it No real set game plan. We're just rolling
through the prologues. Discovering different
zones. Doing different shit. And that is it.
Having fun doing it. And the fact that it's a
mega server as well. I like that because it means
there's always people. Always people knocking
around. World of Warcraft has joint servers and
shit like that. So there's a lot of times when
you'll be in a zone and you just won't fucking
see anyone. Whereas having a mega server, which
like when we were talking about it, is one of
the hurdles they encountered when it comes to
cross -play, which you were saying they may have
figured that one out. One of the cons for that,
but one of the pros is that you just don't feel
alone in the game. There's loads of people. I
love it. Yeah, it's weird because it's not a
thing that I'm like... I don't ever play a game
and be like, I wish there was more people around.
But then when I see someone, if I'm just running
around, I'm like, oh, there's a geezer there.
And then we might be running through a delve,
like, just... on our own just chilling yeah people
are like oh fucking hell he's just come in and
smacked this boss up when we've done this quick
shot you know what I mean I might help him he
probably didn't need help but you know it's just
it's a bit of camaraderie but yeah I listened
they did a podcast special with kind of funny
games like a four I've literally just got it
up yeah a four part thing I listened to all four
of them and whilst they didn't specifically announce
cross play when it was brought up they were like
look we know we want it We're working on it.
We've found some ways around. So whilst they
haven't specifically announced it, they've basically
said it's going to happen. And I think if that
happens, that's going to blow it into stratosphere
like Final Fantasy Online. Because having that
many people on mega servers... on console and
pc is going to be mental says not confirmed they
say they're looking into underlying tech changes
that would make it possible is way more likely
to happen than before um though since they're
actually getting support from higher up time
stamped at 25 minutes on episode four um would
be a good way to help the console side of things
i've been told it's way lighter on xbox than
pc but i don't have a personal experience um
yeah cross save uh cross save will get me back
in the day back in the game is the one that i
hope cross same would cross save would be really
nice um purely because me and steph first started
our eso adventure on console and i spent a lot
of money on my account on console and then didn't
realize that it wasn't cross save so when i started
on this i was like what the fuck i was like what
why so why can you not just fucking let me have
my account and put it onto here it's the same
shit um So that would be nice to... I would love
it because then you know what that means. Steam
Deck grinding, baby. Yeah. Someone said, I'm
assuming this is one of the reasons for console
add -ons. I think it's also good to point out...
Add -ons are coming out. Yeah, to point out that
they discussed why they moved to the current
season format to free up time to pursue these
updates and fixes to things people have had issues
with for a long time. They also said they could
move... back to chapter -like expansions in the
future, but that it was clear that the game needed
some time to cook on fixing those long -standing
issues people have complained about for years.
Assuming they actually deliver, I really wouldn't
mind the game getting less bombastic content
updates if they use the flexibility to do as
they say. But yeah. I absolutely love it, and
I'm remiss to say, that's why I'm not going to
say it, but you know what I want to say? That
it's my game. But I'm not going to say it, even
though I kind of have already said it. Yeah.
But this is all I want. If WoW came to console,
I'd just be playing that shit all the time. But
ESO for now is good. I thought WoW was coming
to console the other day because Game Pass was
bang, Warcraft, Warcraft. Everyone was mental.
There was no world of above that title screen.
But they're getting closer, man. And I think
with the way ESO's gone, New World, all these
MMOs, you've got to think... ESO was like the
first MMO to really come to console bang in obviously
Final Fantasy Online World of Warcraft's getting
there because they in in one of the PTRs they're
testing a one button rotation I've read that
for accessibility purposes for for new players
to be able to get to grips with the game. Basically,
it means that the global cooldown for World of
Warcraft, if you don't know what global cooldown
means, it means when you use an ability, the
time that it takes for you to be able to use
that ability again. There's abilities that have
a flat cooldown, like 30 seconds, whatever, but
your standard moves will have a global cooldown.
basically with this it will it will be a one
button on your skill bar that it will just when
you press it will use the next move in that in
your rotation of what your character is supposed
to be doing apparently it's meant to be quite
intuitive and know what it's supposed to be using
given the situation and what you're currently
attacking because if you're just using the same
rotation over and over again it's not going to
work But the drawback of it is that they're adding
on, I think it's like 0 .3 of a second to the
global cooldown, which sounds negligible. But
in end game content and in player versus player
content, it's just not viable because you'll
lose so much for that time. Looking for raid
type shit where it's just very AFK, let's just
smash the boss and not care about mechanics,
probably perfect. But that kind of shit. If it
comes to console and that was your only option
of combat, very boring. It would kill the game
on console immediately because it's just an AFK
MMO. Very shit. But it's a step to seeing that.
But it need not be. I played it on controller.
Yeah. Just get it on and then work the kinks
out later because you can get it on and have
it working on a console with a controller. And
then if you want, if people then, because this
isn't, that's not the AFK combat you're talking
about. I was pressing L2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
it was quick. You know, I know what I'm doing.
I've got muscle memory after a while. You know,
don't get me wrong. I'm shit at the game. I'm
not saying that. But then if you want to get
to the point of like, oh, I want to get to the
high end stuff, then you can work them kinks
out and be like reducing times and working it
out. But just the casual players will be enough
to just play you, bro. The thing is, is that
they're... Blizzard will, something as monumental
as that, they will want to release it as good
as they can and then work out the kinks. But
I couldn't see them releasing something and then
going, now we'll figure it out. What you have
is a whole community of people that are doing
that for you for free. Because they were very,
very clever by implementing controller support
natively into the game. Because they put the...
the building blocks there and then have said
to a whole community here you go have fun with
that and they'll be listening to feedback and
they'll be watching how people are doing shit
and then of course there's so many people that
have ported wow to steam deck and they'll be
looking at that um and it's sort of like why
why go for all this time and effort to deliver
this to the public get the negative feedback
and then have to rush to try and work out because
we've now put this on a platform that we've never
put it on before when you could just let your
current player base figure it out for you for
free and then just slowly because what they're
also starting to do is um they announced that
they would be getting rid of add -ons so you
won't be able to have add -ons anymore but what
they're going to do is their own add -ons into
the game, which they already started doing by
being able to customise your UI and shit like
that, which you had to use an add -on for before.
The add -ons are still way better because they're
way more fleshed out. But it's a step. It's a
no -brainer. Who owns Blizzard? Well, it's Microsoft
now. Yeah, Microsoft. Yeah. Xbox. Who owns Bethesda?
It's all linking up. They want it all out. Years
ago, when we had the developer wars where Sony
and Xbox were just buying everything up, this
is exactly what was happening. I feel like Microsoft
always had their game plan of let's fucking get
everything under one banner. And I feel like
Sony saw what they were trying to do and were
going, fuck you, I'm taking my gems. And then
pinch, pinch, pinch, pinch, pinch. But I feel
like if you're going to put it down to a who's
won what, Microsoft have won that because they
hold a monopoly there. Game Pass alone is so
monumentally crazy that it's just unbeaten. I
don't have Game Pass, but I've had Game Pass
and I would have it again. for the day one releases
and shit like that. If you're then going to tell
me that you're going to turn pretty much everything
cloud -based so I can play it on this and then
fucking on a handheld and then on a console and
have it all mixed and mashed up for fucking $9
.99 a month, go on then. Have it. Yeah. Keep
Horizon. Keep fucking. The only thing that would
really draw someone back is if they redid Bloodborne.
Yeah, they thought they'd fucking won by snatching
up fucking Bungie and having Destiny and then
Destiny went, oh, look at this gun. Oh, I've
shot myself right in the dick. Yeah. And they've
fucked it. They've fucked Anthem, fucking Marathon.
That's dead. It hasn't even come out. Dead. Completely
dead. Gone, yeah. Yeah, they've gone right. That's
delayed indefinitely. So the fuck knows what's
going to happen there because they're stealing
art and doing dumb shit. They've stole art. They've
stolen art, so that game is just fucked. People
didn't want that. They wanted Destiny 3. And
they went, no, no, we're going to make an extraction
shoe with this shitty art style. Marathon, the
trailers, looked really fucking cool. Marathon
reminds me of a mobile game trailer where the
trailer looks nothing like the game. That is
not a good fucking thing to look like when you're
trying to go and make a AAA fucking big game.
The extraction shoe is fantastic. I like the
idea of extraction shoes. Destiny is your live
service model. It is sustainable. It's huge.
It's massive. You've ruined it. Because now,
there's no Destiny 3. We know this. You've fucking,
you've alienated yourself. You've lost all the
goodwill because you've been nicking art off
people. And now, Marathon is shit because people
have played it and they're like, yeah, it's alright,
but, and these are big Destiny streamers, it's
alright, but I don't really get what's going
on here. And then, Destiny 2 is just sitting
there like, well, All the players that are still
there are like, we love this game. They've released
more content, more shit, more big updates. Well,
they're not giving you more vault space. So you're
still stuck with fucking... I only know this
because I watched a video last night about it.
You're still stuck with 600 or 700 fucking spaces
in your vault, which when you play Destiny is
fuck all because... You want all the old guns
that you've had that were really good, all your
god rolls, which sometimes are relevant, sometimes
you need to put them out for certain things.
You'd be like, oh, what should I take in this
raid? They'd be like, I'll bring Gjallarhorn
and this, and if you've got this with this roll.
So you need stuff, and then you're going to add
all this other shit, which is all current, so
then people are, well, I'm going to keep this,
this, this, this. You keep piling shit in. People
haven't got space to keep it. They're killing
their own fucking franchise, and that is sad.
I thought, because what was the... I thought
they had that, because I haven't played Destiny
for a long time. I'm not massively interested
in it. I was, I used to love it. But I thought
they were done with... The expansions. I, for
a brief period, thought that Destiny 2 was done.
What was it when they announced that this would
be the final shape? Yeah, yeah. They'd done the
final shape, which is the end of the story. But
then they were like, but this is the end of the
light and dark saga. Now we're going to start
a new saga. But that was like a 10 -year fucking
story. So then people were like, ooh. So what
would have been the best thing they could have
done? Think in your head. You work on Destiny
2. You're a big Destiny fan. You love Destiny.
The people that work there love it. This is the
game. We've built a fucking huge player base.
It's making mountains of cash, which is known.
And then let's do the final bit of the story.
And then at the end, after you've done the final
boss of the raid, this big bad that's been built
up for a decade, why don't we go to be continued,
Destiny 3. Blow the internet up. Blow the world
up. Don't even have to be working on it at this
time. Do you know what I mean? Do something.
You've already done it once. Destiny 2. I was
saying this to Steph the other day. I don't remember
Destiny 1. It's really weird. But Destiny 2.
I remember it. But you've done it. Not like this.
Destiny 1. Here's Destiny 2. And now you've built...
Yeah, if you had... Because that is, to me, even
on the outside, was such a cop -out. And I saw
the disappointment when it was announced that
the final shape was the end. And then it was
kept quiet. And then... the final shape finished
and then they just pop out and go, there's another
expansion coming. You go, well, don't hype that
as the end because that's just, that's just rude.
That's, that's, it's, it's, it's the equivalent
of sitting through a two hour movie and at the
end going, and it was all a dream. You go, so
it was fucking pointless. You've, you've hyped
this up as this is the end. This is the, this
is the magnum opus and you've just gone, only
kidding. That's the end of that bit. That chapter's
done. Now we move on to the next bit. The game
fundamentally needs Destiny 3. The technology's
advanced too much. The game system has advanced
too much. Whereas ESO and WoW and stuff like
that, they... they innovate like the a lot of
that podcast they were talking about eso like
for the future so they're talking about we're
still going to do expansions we're still going
to do chapters these things are just going to
be changed because we want to we want to work
out the kinks what we want to do is modernize
it more we want to make it more modern we want
to improve it visually which i've already done
tenfold like you know pierce five dishes 60 fps
so i'm going to keep it current like what because
eso's art style it can go like that for another
20 years same as ESO same as World of Warcraft
that game doesn't look too much different from
you look at the is it retail well the old school
well it doesn't look too dissimilar from that
the art style is unique and you're not looking
going these graphics are shit it's the art style
same with ESO whereas Destiny is like it needs
needs improvement the framework needs improvement
the fundamental like the things it's built on
you know stuff that we don't know but you can
see it's like you've cut it and you can see the
cogs working you're like this needs sorting out
it's not good enough the systems the way things
interact it needs rebuilding and they need to
make Destiny 3 but they've gone hold on let's
not bother with that let's not bother with our
most successful franchise since Halo and the
money cow that Sony bought let's not bother with
that Look at this rainbow -coloured extraction
shooter. You in? It just weren't interesting
at all. No, what about the fucking looter shooter
that we've got that's made billions? Yeah, yeah.
I just can't understand it. It just weren't...
I'd never heard of Mario, and apparently there's
a whole rich lore behind it. I don't understand
what it is, nor do I really care to get involved
with it, but it was another one of those where
you make the trailers look so cool, so weird
and unique, and then... The gameplay is nothing
like the trailers. I always find that shit so
annoying. It's such clickbait. Imagine World
of Warcraft going, this is it. You know the Lich
King? He was nothing on this guy. Building him
up for ages. Ten years. This is the end. The
end comes. Did you like that? Here's a medieval
fishing game we're making. What? I want World
of Warcraft 2 or the next evolution. A medieval
fishing game? it's just completely outfield it's
just stupid World of Warcraft is teetering itself
on that sort of shit not like making a different
game but in terms of expansions and it becomes
very predictable where you go oh look it's almost
like watching Walking Dead where you go There's
a big invasion. Suddenly there's a big enemy
that's trying to kill me. Quick. We go through
all these fucking hoops and jumps. Now we've
killed the enemy. Oh, no. They found a new safe
space and everything was great. Yeah. Oh, no.
There's another big enemy that we've never heard
about but have caught whispers in books and shit.
They're trying to destroy this part. Oh, no.
We have to move to another zone. Bloody, bloody,
bloody. And you go, right. World of Warcraft
got to a point where they were getting so wrapped
up in doing that sort of shit that they were
implementing massive bits of lore and then forgetting
about them. So I feel like they're trying to
wrap it all up because it was getting too carried
away. But I read a post earlier today where someone
on Reddit said, just let us fucking lose for
once. Yes, 100%. Let us lose. I know that we're
the heroes and the fucking world can't turn without
us, right? But let us have that sort of Marvel
arc. No, you need that. Let's have that end game.
That hits harder. You lose and then the next
thing is your redemption arc. Yeah, and that's
exactly what people are calling for in the next
expansion is let me fucking lose. Let there be
no happy ending on this and then let us build
to that. I want that sort of shit. I don't want
the... The whimsical fucking... And everyone
lived happily ever after and everyone was included.
No. I want it to be dark and horrendous and gut
-wrenching and then I want you to keep me there.
And then you kill off someone that everyone loves.
Kill off someone fucking decent but actually
kill them off. Don't fucking injure Khadgar and
then have him as one of the most powerful mages
in existence now rolling around in a wheelchair.
in a, in a, in a, in a, in a manor wheelchair.
What, like, what's going on? Like, fuck me, let's
kill someone off. You know what I mean? Let's
do something, let's do something crazy. Let's
do, let's do a fucking Cade. Let's get rid of
some people. Oh yeah, let's do a Cade and then,
and then everyone gets really sad and then they
bring him back. And then bring the comeback.
Yeah, they've just lost everything about it.
Yeah. So everyone's like, I love Cade, I wish
he'd come back. But I don't actually want him
back. And then when he comes back, you've just
lost all the, Shit. Everything, yeah. Same with
Game of Thrones when they killed off J .S. And
then he's like, well, you know, I'm back. And
you're fine. Yeah, yeah. No repercussions of
that death? Yeah. You're not like a little bit
weird and that? No, no, you're just alright.
The only ones that got away with something like
that was Lord of the Rings when Gandalf fucking
fell with the Balrog. And you're like, oh my
god, I think he's dead. And then no. Through
fire. And water. Brimstone. Brimstone. Yeah,
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