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It's been two whole months, nearly two months.

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Whoa.

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I've forgotten how to do any of this.

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Melting.

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We're gone.

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Literally, we put a message out to the Patreon

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and said what was going on and that we had to go on a forced break.

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Didn't put anything out for anyone else.

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Probably a bad decision in hindsight.

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We've just gone completely rogue for the best part of two months.

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What happened is I moved house twice.

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Me and Steph had to move with her folks

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whilst we were waiting for a house that we were buying to complete.

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So moved all of our shit and then a month after moving, our house then completed.

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So then we've had to then move everything back in the interim.

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Trying to get a podcast out for

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trying to get that around everything was impossible.

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So, yeah, we went on a hiatus and it's been it's been awful

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because all I've done is just watch the statistics just go down.

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It's just non-existent because we've gone fucking AWOL, but we're back.

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The true fans stay with us.

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They do. We're back with an absolute boom and there's been

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there's been so much gaming news that I can't even fathom any of it.

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I don't know what the fuck's happened.

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There's been so much that I can't remember anything.

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It's terrible, isn't it? It's really, really bad.

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So this is it.

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I imagine you've done nothing.

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We've had no gaming apart from a bit of wow every now and again.

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Yeah, literally, we we moved with with Steph's mum and

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I didn't bring my PlayStation that went to her sisters just to get it out of the way.

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And then I set my laptop up

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and just didn't have the time, man,

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just have not had the time to engage in fucking anything

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because I've just been so busy.

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So I think the last bit of gaming news where I was like mega excited

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and couldn't wait to talk about on the pod was the fucking switch to announcement.

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If you've been listening to this podcast since the beginning,

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there's multiple episodes where we fucking winched about there

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not being a switch to and then it gets fucking

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revealed and we ain't here.

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We're not present for it.

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So that was about it. But I know there's a shitload more that's gone on.

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I've just I've not I've been busy.

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I won't lie.

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I'm just going through my last play game so I can get some grass.

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We've been fucking banging Kingdom Come Deliverance.

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I'll get to that.

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I was playing.

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I played.

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I played Mafia.

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Definitive Edition. Mm hmm.

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You've played them? No.

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Well, I just go from a library, no, we use boarders.

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Fuck. And you just don't want to play anything.

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But I want to play something. Yeah.

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So go from my library and that was on there.

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Well, I available to download.

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I don't think I bought it.

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I think it's just a PlayStation Plus thing.

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Yeah. Because I played the second one.

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I've never played the first one.

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And it was like definitive edition.

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So it had been like remastered, remade, what not.

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So I downloaded that kind of on a whim really.

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Just thought I'd just have a little go and see if I fancied it.

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Fucking loved it, man.

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I blitzed that game in like four or five nights.

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What was that like a GTA type?

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Yeah, it's GTA, but it's like...

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Mafia.

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It's more linear than GTA.

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So there is times where you can just like fuck about,

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but it's more like you're in it for the story.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And yeah, you have to go like the speed of light.

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And yeah, you have to go like the speed limit

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when they're all a bit of a worry about.

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Or they'll pull you over, give you a ticket and shit.

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Or you can shoot them if you want.

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It's fucking really good, mate.

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Really, really good.

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So after I finished Mafia,

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then I redownloaded Mafia 2, which I had already played.

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Not for years though.

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And I was working my way through that.

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And then obviously I was just waiting for KCD,

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King of the Cubs, really.

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And then that come out and then everything else has just died to me.

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Days Gone To is not coming.

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No.

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What that will sound like in the podcast is that we've edited that.

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We've gone cut straight to something else,

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but we do no editing here.

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We haven't changed.

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We've been gone, but we ain't changed.

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Fuck all.

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Still lazy, guys.

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But Days Gone Remaster was probably the highlight of my holiday.

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I hate it.

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It pisses me off, man.

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I hate it so much.

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There's no need for it, right?

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There's no need for it.

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It's a fucking cash grab.

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It's just like The Last of Us.

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But it's just like The Last of Us,

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but I feel like it's even more of a kick in the bollocks

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because of how many people are screaming for Days Gone To.

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And you've gone, no, we're going to put those resources into remastering

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a game that already looks really good.

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It looks great as well.

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What's the fuck?

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But they did that with The Last of Us Part 2 remaster.

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They look exactly the fucking same side by side.

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They look exactly the same.

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So you're going to, I mean, there's a part of me that's wishful thinking.

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You got Amazon ringing you again.

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You want me to force it?

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It's my wife.

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All right, carry on.

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You were talking.

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Was I?

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About Days Gone.

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Cash grab.

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Yeah, bullshit.

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Bing bang bong.

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Because it's same shit as The Last of Us.

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It's a tenner.

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But what I, because I was chatting to Mark about it at work.

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And he's pretty sure that you have to own the game.

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Now bear with me.

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Own the game in a sense of not through PlayStation Plus.

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You have to own the game as in you had to have purchased said game to then pay the tenner to upgrade the game.

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So in other words, if I wanted to have the remastered version of Days Gone, I've got to pay for Days Gone

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and then pay for the remaster because the PlayStation Plus collection thing doesn't doesn't allow that, which I think is fantastic.

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I think that's really nice.

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What a fucking, there's a part of me that's wishful thinking in that.

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Is it them trying to test the waters to see if there is a reason to go and make Days Gone 2?

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Or is it just how Sony have been for the last couple of years and just trying to get some fucking money?

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Well, I am hopeful that it is a sequel tester, but they've said so many times that they're not going to do it.

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The people that did make it disbanded.

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So then fucking bring them back together.

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They probably disbanded because Sony turned around and said, yeah, we're not letting you do number two.

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I think it was a guy called John Garvin and he left.

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Basically, I think he's quite an outspoken person anyway.

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And he's basically said fuckers.

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Yeah, because the game was so good.

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It was one of them where critics received it poorly, but players loved it.

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But I genuinely cannot understand how that was reviewed poorly.

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I'll tell you, I can tell you straight away why it was reviewed poorly because it was people,

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I think might not be this one, but I'm 98% sure it was after Red Dead Redemption 2.

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So people are just comparing it to like the pinnacle of fucking gaming.

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There we go. Why did it get bad reviews?

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Why are the reviews so bad?

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This was five years ago on Reddit.

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Let's have a look.

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Yeah, I think days gone got the short end of the stick.

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A lot of people are sick of open world games and they're still zombie fatigue from last year.

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And they wanted to let people know we want something new and less form you late.

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I don't know what it is.

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And reviewers use this game to bash harder because it wouldn't be as popular as Spider-Man,

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Assassin's Creed and other popular open world games.

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Yeah, I really don't get the bad reviews.

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This game is great so far about seven hours in.

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It's very tense much like I said when I played it.

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I stay true to exactly what I said.

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It is quite possibly the best post-apocalyptic zombie game I have ever played.

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And I would I would scarcely put it above the last of us.

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If you're looking at it from an open world zombie orientated game,

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I think Days Gone pits that but if you're looking at it from a purely story side,

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then the last of us is at the top really difficult gameplay was the days gone much better.

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You're not playing last of us for a game play.

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You're playing a story alone.

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The gameplay is good, but nowhere near as you know,

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it's not dynamic days gone's dynamic.

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Yeah, Days Gone feels very good.

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Very very very good.

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And then the the horde mechanic with the zombies as well feels as it should,

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you know, I mean doesn't doesn't feel fake.

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It's very very very good where I feel like that that horde aspect is missing from a lot of games

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where where they would really benefit from that style of of of enemy.

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You just played Days Gone and then they do that another game.

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You played recently with Shadow of War or Shadow of Mordor and now they've just died.

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So goodbye Nemesis System forever.

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Thank you for that.

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Yeah, thank you for locking that away.

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One of the best systems ever created is gone.

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Well, yeah, but it's Sony that owns that.

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Warner Brothers, no?

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I thought it was Sony that patented it.

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No, it's Warner Brothers that patented it,

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but then the company that made Shadow of War and Shadow of Mordor games have now died.

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I can't.

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I don't know who owns that specifically.

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Is it still Warner Brothers?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It confuses me.

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Well, I can't I can't understand the so from a from a business point of view in terms of game

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and you want to make as much money as fucking possible.

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Yeah, this is the agreed assumption.

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So why if people are screaming if the gaming community is screaming for a certain thing

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and everyone screaming for it.

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Well, surely that would that would result in money.

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So why would you not do it, especially when you're in a in a gaming lull?

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Because Sony is not really coming out with a fucking whole lot of the moment.

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Just remaster after remaster after remaster.

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And you think what what the I feel like the whole opinion and attitude towards gaming

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at the moment is severe distrust in companies and developers and things like that

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because how many times in the last three or four years we as gamers have been burned essentially.

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I know I know the answer to all these questions.

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All right.

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I'll tell you why.

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Concord Dragon Age Val guard.

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Yeah, avowed the most recent one.

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Yeah, all these games.

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Right.

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What are they doing?

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They are pandering to an audience that doesn't exist.

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The audience they are pandering to are all the people on Twitter.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not pandering to gamers.

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They're going look at us with our virtual signal flag.

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We're going to do X Y and Z.

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Look how fantastic we are.

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And then when the game doesn't sell they go under why hold on why is no one buying it?

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Yeah, you've gone too far.

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And then if I buy it, right?

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This is this is the only way I can describe it.

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Right.

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So avowed here made by obsidian the people that made fallout New Vegas and our world

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professor used to be my favorite studio.

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All right, so it's fallout is basically I was very excited for avowed until I saw it.

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So I so they've made that right and then a lot of people haven't played it because I'm

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looking at it going that looks not for me.

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That looks shit.

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Yeah, don't look good.

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Right, but all the people that are complaining saying this is crap.

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Why is it like this X Y Z Y scarring better?

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Why is oblivion better?

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All the people that defend it say it's not made for you.

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Well, then who is it made for because if I'm supposed to know that an RPG made by the same

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people that made one of the best RPGs ever made in a fantasy setting, which is my favorite

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setting with swords and magic and dragons and whatever else isn't for me then what's

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your target audience?

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Yeah, who are you aiming this shit at?

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Because I've seen side-by-side comparisons compared to oblivion.

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This is even before squaring.

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You can't attack animals.

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You can't attack like humans.

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You can't that everyone in town just stay still.

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Now if you pass time, yeah, they will just stand still you fire an arrow in the air.

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Don't come back down.

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There's no water physics like everything's just shocking.

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It's almost like you because I really liked Outer Worlds.

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I'm a big fan of that and obviously made by Obsidian as well.

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And I know that if you're comparing that to the likes of Fallout, then Fallout always

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wins.

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But I felt that Outer Worlds had a really cool artistic style and like I say, really

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fucking enjoyed it.

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And it was always perceived as the lesser of that entire genre.

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So you'd think that even though it's still pretty successful that Obsidian making a vowed

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would learn from previous mistakes and build upon some build upon what they had was already

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a decent game and then make make something that's very similar but but even better and

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then hype up people get excited for it and then you it releases and you see the gameplay

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of it and you just think this is in in the year that we are in and the capability of

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gaming as a whole.

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If you look at and you think that's not what I want is achievable now.

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So I'm going to ask for it like the physics of jumping into water.

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I don't want to jump into water and then all of a sudden the bling just the screen just

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flashes blue and then boom I'm underwater.

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I want a little bit more pizzazz to that and even just swimming it like you know, I mean

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all like you say being able to attack animals and if you're going to fucking sift through

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time because you're saving the game or whatever then fucking let the background run round

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you know like they're little things where 10 years ago you're asking for the world.

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Whereas in 2025 that's that's not even a standard you that's just basics at that point.

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It's bare minimum.

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Yeah, there people are kiting enemies into like settlements and and and to other guards

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and now the guards don't pay any attention to the yeah.

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I mean and this is old as time and this is the problem.

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People are saying well the game is not meant for you.

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Well it is because it's exactly what I want.

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I want a fancy bubble.

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I will fancy games on but then they're complaining it's not for me but then complaining that

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it's not selling well.

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I'm not going to buy it.

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So what's it for?

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Who's buying it?

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It's it's a weird one because you've also got Outer Worlds 2 that is coming out this

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year.

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So it begs the question of like well there I know they're not the same game but they're

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fucking similar.

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So it's almost like well you're you're trying to you see what I mean.

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That's the why I didn't like Outer Worlds 1.

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I found it too basic too bare bones but as I say I'm comparing that to to Fallout New

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Vegas.

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Even in Fallout New Vegas you could pick stuff up.

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The world's not interactable like like the like in a vowed and much like the Outer Worlds

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is very it was very basic and I get that was their first big game since like Fallout New

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Vegas so it was like exciting and I didn't necessarily think Outer Worlds was a bad game.

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I just it wasn't enough of what I wanted.

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Yeah it almost it almost like cock teased you and then never actually let you fucking

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finish.

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So it was it was almost very good.

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And then just fucking tilted to the edge.

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It was yeah I mean like I say I sit in the camp where I really liked it but if you're

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going to throw comparison to to New Vegas or just Fallout as a as a whole then yeah

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it falls short of that.

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But I just don't see how how can you make Fallout New Vegas and then make the Outer

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Worlds or a vowed.

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They're they're so similar but yet it's like they've all they've done is take away.

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They've made it pretty.

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It looks great.

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It does look good.

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Yeah.

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They've made it very pretty and then just removed everything from the game.

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But I don't understand and I didn't I haven't thought about it until until this conversation.

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Why you would make a vowed and Outer Worlds 2.

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Look well make one or the other because I didn't know Outer Worlds 2 was coming out

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this year but I can tell you for damn sure that's getting delayed if it is.

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Of course it's getting delayed but it's got an initial for 2025.

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They are going to be panicking after this because of out.

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And but the thing is we don't want them to flop.

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I want these games to be great.

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I'm not I don't care how I don't care how long it takes just make the game good.

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Yeah.

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I don't care how long it takes.

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I know it costs money and rah rah rah but if it's not ready if it's undercooked don't

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put it out man be better off scrapping it because all they're doing each time is tarnishing

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their own reputation and these reputations get built up and once you've lost the trust

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of players it's very hard to get back.

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I think what you have is I saw it the other day in in regards to World of Warcraft in

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that the the latest patch has just released released on Wednesday new raid new zone new

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mythic plus rotation new dungeon blah blah blah.

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And that all comes out next week but we're in the new zone and blah blah blah.

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And it's all goblins.

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It's all goblins engineers mechanical all this like shit and it's called undermine.

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And when it first got announced everyone was like well no one no one's really fucking asked

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for that.

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And I read a thing on Reddit and it was it was a person saying that developers know what

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they're doing 99 percent of the time.

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They do know the audience especially when it's Blizzard because they've been making

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the same game for fucking years and years and years.

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And this person said that it isn't always right to do what everyone wants.

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And I feel like that rings true because like this person said he was like if every if Blizzard

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did what everyone was fucking calling for you'd be on your 11th expansion it would all

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be fucking elves because that's all anyone cares about which isn't good for the game

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and what in the grand scheme of things everyone would want.

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So there's times when it benefits you to not listen to your audience as a developer because

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you know the game better than anyone else and you're the one that's fucking making it.

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So you you sort of you you when it comes down to it is the bare bones.

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You are steering that ship regardless of what anyone else says.

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But I just think that so many games now have come out where no one's asking for it or the

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input that people are putting in isn't actually finding its way into the games where you think

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is it maybe time now to kind of listen to what people are saying because there's been

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a lot of fucking games that have a lot of heavy hitting games that have flopped.

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Concord I put as the biggest one that was meant to be a fucking a flagship that was

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that was meant to be a big time exclusive and just fucking died.

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The only reason that started harder than say about and Val guard the only reason is because

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it was an online game.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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To die because they couldn't support a game that was having 300 players or whatever it

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was.

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Yeah, you can't do it.

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I mean, whereas if Dragon Age Val guard make no mistake if Val guard and avowed were online

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multiplayer games they'd be dead as well.

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And that a lot of it comes down to the simple fact of this virtue signal and nonsense.

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This is all it is.

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They're putting modern day politics in medieval fantasy games.

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There is getting this game too much.

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We play games to get away from all this crap.

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I don't I don't need all that in there.

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You're making everything purple and vibrant and like the trailer for avowed was dark gritty

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skeletons fantasy.

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And now you look at it and it's bright fluorescent pink purple mushroom heads big massively massive

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colorful and the people that I read yesterday the people that made that trailer for avowed

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didn't they didn't have any gameplay to work with or any idea what the game was.

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They said make a fantasy trailer and they made that there's nothing to do with what

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the game is no art direction.

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So that's why people are sick.

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Yeah, that looks great.

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And then the more I saw leading up I was like, I don't this doesn't look like what it looks

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like the outworld.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean very colorful and vibrant, but I like you know personal preference.

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I like dark fantasy.

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I still would have played it.

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Yeah, if it was good.

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Yeah, but colorful and vibrant is absolutely fine because you're making out of worlds too.

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So if you don't want if you don't want to play colorful and vibrant, that's fine because

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avowed there similar sort of game.

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But this is your dark gritty version of that.

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This is what you want.

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But that's that's not what you've got.

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You've got a carbon copy of very, very similar.

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I just I don't understand where that where that comes from, man.

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I really don't get it.

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I've got no problem with like, you know, purples and pinks and you make it as colorful as you

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want because if the game is good, I'm going to play it.

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There's plenty of games that I've played where I don't like the art style.

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I like pixel art, but not everybody does.

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If the game is good, people are going to play it.

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Yeah, vampire survivors.

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I mean, I'm not like, oh, this looks amazing, but the game plays great.

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Yeah, it's good.

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You kind of ignore all the rest.

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Yeah.

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If the game plays not good and the stories Blair like Dragon Age, Valgaard, too many

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modern day politics with the pronouns and all that nonsense in there.

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And then you get a very basic spoon fed story.

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It's like that's a dog.

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A dog is where ships come.

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So your audience is surely the people that played the original Dragon Age.

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So we're all in our 30s, 40s, late 20s, whatever.

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We don't need that spoon fed.

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Yeah, give me a decent story.

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Give us a story, man.

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And keep the modern day politics out of it.

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All them arguments can be had out of video games.

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We want fantasy games with dragons and whatever else.

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You don't need that crap in there.

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And unfortunately, all this stuff is the reason the games are not doing well.

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And it's a shame because Dragon Age is a fantastic series.

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I was so excited for Dragon Age and you better believe I'm going to play it now.

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It's free three months after it's released.

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Yeah, which is crazy.

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Mental.

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Says everything that you need to know.

431
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Right.

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I saw it.

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The screenshot that sent you.

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I was on Twitter.

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I went, Oh, Valgaards kind of plays this plus carried on thinking, Oh, it's going to be

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like the premium tier.

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Well, that shit's coming to the most basic tier, the cheapest tier, the six pound 99

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a month kind of.

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Yeah.

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That's not going to the catalog that is going to the cheap, cheap, cheap PlayStation Plus

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download it and keep it forever.

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Jobby in this light, man, that's that's if that doesn't say that that's failed and Bioware

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is just it's dead now.

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Bioware is dead.

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Obsidian are going to be struggling.

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And it's a shame because Bioware and Obsidian, if you'd asked me five years ago, they would

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have been in my top five, 10 favorite developers.

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And now they're putting out Tosh.

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Yeah.

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It's sad, man.

451
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I don't want it to happen, but that is what happened.

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Yes.

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Fuck is cut throat because spin it to a lighter side or a different game entirely.

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Elden Ring fucking blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Night rain.

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Night rain.

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Thoughts.

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We've got two months here to fucking cover in this fan.

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Not a fan.

460
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I am a fan.

461
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Difficult to take in it.

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I'm not a fan because yes, it's just going to be a weird night.

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One thing that from software not good with is like netcode, bro.

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Their multiplayer is not.

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Yeah.

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Never been up to snuff.

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So that's a big test for them in the first place.

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And test is like, I think if I played it with like you and I don't know, Connor or saying,

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it'd be good.

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But if I'm matchmaking, I'm going to get the hump.

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It's going to be a rough one.

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Cause you don't know who you're matchmaking.

473
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Yeah.

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And you're going to get the hump with each other.

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And my biggest concern is I don't know what the gameplay loop is.

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I know what the gameplay loop is because I've watched it, but I don't know what the reason

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is.

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You know what I mean?

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So we're going to be dropping in, smashing shit up, trying to survive the free days,

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kill a farm boss, whatever.

481
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Cool.

482
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So what happens when you do it?

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What happens then?

484
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What makes you want to do it again?

485
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Do I go back in the spaceship and then, and then drop back down like fucking hell divers?

486
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What was happening?

487
00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:06,140
Yeah.

488
00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:07,140
It's Fortnite, man.

489
00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:08,140
Well, what makes you want to do it again?

490
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,140
Like are you unlocking new cosmetics?

491
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:10,140
Are you unlocking new stuff?

492
00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:12,140
Are they going to put out new characters?

493
00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:14,180
Cause it's preset classes, isn't it?

494
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:15,180
Yeah.

495
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,180
So which I like cause random loot.

496
00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:17,620
Oh, I've got the fucking blood.

497
00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:18,620
Yeah.

498
00:25:18,620 --> 00:25:20,980
I like it and don't like it.

499
00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:26,860
At first I didn't like the idea of it because I was like, well fucking Elden Ring's all

500
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:31,980
about making your own class and fucking around with different builds and then you're going

501
00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:32,980
to take that away.

502
00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:35,740
And then when I thought about it more and more and I was like, no, actually no, it is

503
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:40,700
fucking decent because you're, you're trying to make this a solely multiplayer matchmaking

504
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:41,700
game.

505
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:46,960
It must be a fucking nightmare or it just wouldn't work full stop if everyone had the

506
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,980
complete freedom that you do in Elden Ring.

507
00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:55,360
So or any Soulsborne game for that matter.

508
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,980
So yeah, I'm a massive fan of it.

509
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:03,060
Being preset classes, loot, shit like that.

510
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:08,300
We didn't see enough of it to really understand what was going on.

511
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,300
I've watched a lot.

512
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:10,780
There's been a lot of people playing it.

513
00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:12,780
Cause I thought it was just DLC.

514
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:14,340
No, it's not a standalone.

515
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:15,340
It's a 30 quid game though.

516
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:16,340
It's not.

517
00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:17,340
Yeah.

518
00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:18,340
Yeah.

519
00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:25,580
So basically you drop in on your, on your Eagles and then you have to kill a boss each

520
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:27,420
day, but you, you can run around to, you open a map.

521
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:31,380
There's like little points to the map where you can go and kill like mini bosses.

522
00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:37,500
Essentially you'll get a runes, whatever you call them run to a bonfire and it'll automatically

523
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:38,500
level you up.

524
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,780
You don't need to manually do it or anything like that.

525
00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:41,780
And then you just find loot.

526
00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:43,180
It's like a road like man.

527
00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:44,180
You find loot.

528
00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:45,180
You don't know what loot you might find.

529
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:48,740
You might find the, the, the Yuchi Katana or the Katana that fires the blood.

530
00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:53,340
You know, you find that you're laughing, but you also find in spells and all sorts of stuff.

531
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:58,700
So every run will be different, but at the end of that day, then you have to do it again

532
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,740
until you fight the final boss.

533
00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:04,900
What's cool for people like me is it's got bosses from like the old dark souls games

534
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:05,900
and stuff.

535
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:08,760
So I'd be like, Oh mate, it's got the nameless king and stuff in it.

536
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,760
So that's cool.

537
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,460
But what I want to know is what makes me want to do it again?

538
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:15,900
Cause once I've done it, sweet, I've done it now.

539
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:21,620
Which is exactly what we encountered when we played remnant two, same sort of style

540
00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:28,060
where you have preset builds that you can customize and stuff like that.

541
00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:32,940
Entering into a world where you're fighting your way through numerous bosses until you

542
00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:35,700
get to the final main boss.

543
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:41,100
And then you give up, kill that, finish the, finish the level and then go into the next

544
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:42,620
level and carry on and carry on.

545
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:47,060
I know that remnant two has had a load of DLCs and probably way more shit on it now

546
00:27:47,060 --> 00:27:50,060
than when we last played it.

547
00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:53,500
But at the time when we played it, that is exactly what happened.

548
00:27:53,500 --> 00:28:00,220
You finished, killed the last boss and then put it down because I'm done now.

549
00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:01,220
I've done my bit.

550
00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:04,340
I'm great game, really good game, but I'm done.

551
00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:05,340
Thank you very much.

552
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:06,340
See you later.

553
00:28:06,340 --> 00:28:09,980
So it's like, is that, is that going to be the same sort of sort of thing?

554
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:10,980
Really difficult to tell.

555
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:20,100
I think it's very, it's very unique and it's nice to see from software heading into that

556
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:23,820
because you, you do have to think what sort of direction are we going into after something

557
00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:24,820
like Elden Ring?

558
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:29,980
We go, well fucking hell it's going to be, it's going to be tough to, to, to top that.

559
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:37,180
So going into a purely multiplayer aspect for a lower price bracket, I think is a very,

560
00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:38,180
very smart move.

561
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,180
It's very smart.

562
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:40,180
Yeah, it's smart to do that.

563
00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:42,740
I mean, I just hope they build the franchise.

564
00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:47,780
I want it to be, cause they're talking about Elden Ring film or series or whatnot, but

565
00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:49,180
Elden Ring 2 has to happen.

566
00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:54,060
It has to, but me and Zacky doesn't seem like, you know, he just does what he wants.

567
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:55,060
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

568
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:56,060
He's a proper G.

569
00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:57,060
Yeah.

570
00:28:57,060 --> 00:28:58,060
It's like, it's like boulders game, man.

571
00:28:58,060 --> 00:28:59,420
You're leaving all that money on the table, bro.

572
00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:04,180
Yeah, cause you just fucking made a load of millions and millions by what you've just

573
00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:05,180
fucking done.

574
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:08,060
It's a, it's almost artistic.

575
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:13,540
I've done this for the love of the, of the game and have made a shit ton of money off

576
00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:16,980
of it, but I'm, I'm going to do this again if I want to.

577
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:17,980
Yeah, it's great.

578
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:21,340
If I want to do it again, not because of the money and it works.

579
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:23,340
I can't wait for light, no fire.

580
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:24,820
Yeah, me too.

581
00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:28,540
I haven't seen a lot on that, but I've, I've, it's cause they haven't fucking shown it.

582
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:29,540
I know, I know.

583
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,500
You know why, you know why?

584
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,300
Because they just released a massive update from No Man's Sky again.

585
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:35,300
Huge.

586
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:36,980
One of the biggest ones I've ever done.

587
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:38,460
Yeah, mad stuff on that shit, bro.

588
00:29:38,460 --> 00:29:39,460
You should watch it.

589
00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:41,580
If you haven't seen it, that shit's mad.

590
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:45,140
But a lot of people think No Man's Sky is the testing ground.

591
00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:49,860
So all these features they put in, obviously I know it's in space, but yeah, but it correlates

592
00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:53,820
to yeah, all like the water physics and the wind and all these different things.

593
00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:55,820
Yeah, the water physics look fucking sick now.

594
00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:56,820
Exactly.

595
00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:59,980
So really fucking cool on the weather dynamics, really cool shit.

596
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:05,300
You imagine that all on a earth sized planet, like that's going to be multiplayer, but it's

597
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:07,500
actually like earth.

598
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,660
So you want to go and attack so and so, but he lives in Spain.

599
00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:11,660
Yeah.

600
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,660
Get to Spain dickhead.

601
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:13,660
Yeah.

602
00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:15,660
I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be sick.

603
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:20,300
But speaking of like boulders gate, obviously, cause it's the best game I've made.

604
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,060
They are the prime example.

605
00:30:22,060 --> 00:30:28,820
So boulders gate, AKA Larian studios and warhorse studios and making deliverance.

606
00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:32,340
Just two of them, not AAA studios.

607
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:33,700
Now they are.

608
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:36,980
Not AAA studios making games that put everything else to shame.

609
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:42,220
So King Kong deliverance one was a kickstart.

610
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:43,220
Okay.

611
00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,940
So obviously raised money for it.

612
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:52,420
They made it and I, I always liked King Kong deliverance, but it's just, it had, it had

613
00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:54,860
a lot of jank and it was annoying.

614
00:30:54,860 --> 00:30:58,700
Sometimes it was just really annoying before KCD to come out.

615
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,660
I forced myself to finish it.

616
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,940
And when I say forced, I mean, like I was fast traveling.

617
00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:04,780
I was beeline in the story.

618
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:08,660
Not because I wasn't enjoying it, but I just wanted to, I didn't want to watch the YouTube

619
00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:09,660
video.

620
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:11,860
I wanted to actually do it myself.

621
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:17,580
And then when KCD to come out, that game is probably the best sequel ever made you.

622
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:22,780
I can't see a game that has ever like lifted everything up and improved it to the point

623
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:25,780
that it's, I can't believe they're the same company.

624
00:31:25,780 --> 00:31:26,780
Right.

625
00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:31,780
And bearing in mind how much money they spent on KCD to, to what all these other companies

626
00:31:31,780 --> 00:31:34,820
that are putting out this absolute dross.

627
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:37,500
I want to know where their money's going, bro.

628
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:38,500
I want to know where their money's going.

629
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:39,500
I mean it.

630
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,740
I want to know where the money's going because how are you putting out that shit when King

631
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:47,460
Kong deliverance is putting out that I want to know.

632
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:48,880
I really want to know.

633
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,300
And they're not afraid to do.

634
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:56,020
It costs 36.5 million us dollars, which is in terms of gaming.

635
00:31:56,020 --> 00:31:57,020
It's pathetic.

636
00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:58,020
Not a lot.

637
00:31:58,020 --> 00:31:59,020
That can't be right.

638
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:00,020
It must've cost more than that.

639
00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:01,020
That's pathetic.

640
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:05,940
That is pathetic amount of money.

641
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:12,540
And then a vowed, uh, had a budget roughly between 70 to 80 million.

642
00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:13,660
What's double?

643
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:14,660
Where is it?

644
00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:15,660
What is the shit you've put out?

645
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:16,660
What is the shit you've put out?

646
00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:17,660
I don't understand.

647
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:18,660
What's fail God?

648
00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:25,180
Uh, fail God, then Concord please.

649
00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:27,460
I think Concord was expensive, man.

650
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:30,940
Um, let me have a look.

651
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:39,580
Is that going to do the budget for this was over $250 million.

652
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,220
Val God for Val God.

653
00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:43,220
Where is it?

654
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:46,220
And then what did you want?

655
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:49,020
Con Concord Concord game budget.

656
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:52,020
Let's have a look.

657
00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:58,940
So the game was in development for around eight years according to video game podcast

658
00:32:58,940 --> 00:33:06,820
host Colin Moriarty citing and Moriarty sorry, uh, citing an unnamed Concord developer.

659
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:10,780
The game had development costs of $400 million.

660
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:15,180
Although this figure was disputed by several place, they had developers on social media.

661
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:20,220
Um, so don't take that as gospel, but you know that it will probably be around the free

662
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:21,940
to 400.

663
00:33:21,940 --> 00:33:23,820
That's so much money for a game.

664
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:26,500
So I need so much money.

665
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:27,500
Where is it?

666
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,500
Well, it's in the bin.

667
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,500
This is what I mean.

668
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:30,500
Where's this money go?

669
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:36,380
Imagine you're a company that's gone like we've just spent $400 million on this.

670
00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:39,000
This is going to blow people's fucking minds.

671
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,060
And then what was it?

672
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:41,060
Two weeks.

673
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,140
Most expensive two weeks you could ever have.

674
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:47,140
I know you're never going to play it and I wouldn't put you to play it because I don't

675
00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:51,900
think it's your kind of thing, but I wish you could see what kingdom come deliverance

676
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:56,480
two offers and compare it to what he's have a shit he's doing.

677
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,060
And then you will say, where is it?

678
00:33:59,060 --> 00:34:04,740
Because how can come deliverance to have made that on that budget when obviously, you know,

679
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:05,740
that's just a massive number.

680
00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:06,740
We can't really comprehend.

681
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:11,420
But if you're comparing it to other budgets, you're saying, where's that money going?

682
00:34:11,420 --> 00:34:12,460
What are you doing with it?

683
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:20,700
So Kim kingdom come deliverance, what come out six years ago, six years ago, 36.5 million

684
00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:24,360
approximately was the budget for that game.

685
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,900
Would you like to know how much kingdom come deliverance to budget was 40 million?

686
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:39,840
Six years you've gone up by what is that 3.8 million because they are unrecognizable

687
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:46,580
gameplay wise, visual wise, performance, length, what makes it so good because a lot of people

688
00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:54,860
in the guild are playing it and I've seen I've seen a fair bit of of gameplay.

689
00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:55,860
What is it?

690
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:57,500
It doesn't look like my cup of tea personally.

691
00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:01,860
I don't think I've got the patience, but I don't understand what it is.

692
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:03,900
It's the most immersive game I've ever played.

693
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:05,340
Yeah, that's the bit that puts me off.

694
00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:09,300
I saw that video you put up on Instagram with you being knocked over by a shelf.

695
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,300
I don't want that.

696
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,300
I didn't know that could happen.

697
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:14,300
I had no idea.

698
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,700
I was just riding and I fell off.

699
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:17,700
What the fuck has happened?

700
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,180
It worked till I saved it.

701
00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:20,180
Watch it back.

702
00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:21,420
I was like, I ran into that.

703
00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:23,300
I had no idea.

704
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:26,740
It's just I can't explain it.

705
00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:32,860
I'll give you a story like I gave to guys at work.

706
00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:37,260
So I was looking for a guy.

707
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,260
I spoke to this woman.

708
00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:41,740
She was having an affair with this guy.

709
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,980
So this is in the game.

710
00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:51,060
She was having an affair with this guy, like some foreign Polish guy, I think he was.

711
00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,740
Her husband found out he was fuming.

712
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:55,780
So he took a couple of the lads, beat him up a little bit, took him up to a tree to

713
00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:56,780
hang him.

714
00:35:56,780 --> 00:36:00,900
I was like, all right, I'm going to go and save this geezer because we need him.

715
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:01,900
She was like, don't hurt my husband.

716
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:03,900
I was like, yeah, I'll try not to.

717
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:04,900
Went up there.

718
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:07,100
Then this is all RPG stuff as well.

719
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:11,000
So you're like doing skill checks, trying to like, oh, you know, I'll try and say this

720
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,700
to them, but it might fail and then it'll backfire.

721
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:14,700
Okay.

722
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:19,180
So I found out where and, and, and by doing that, say, I can't remember the exact scenario.

723
00:36:19,180 --> 00:36:23,780
So I might say, oh, um, where's your husband or I heard you're having an affair.

724
00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:24,780
Rara.

725
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:27,780
If I found that skill check, it could mean I have to find them myself.

726
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,420
I have to go around the town and look for other clues.

727
00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:32,020
Um, I could kill her.

728
00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:35,140
I might have a note on her or pickpocket her or something.

729
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:36,940
Um, I could follow her.

730
00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:39,700
Like none of these things are things that I told you.

731
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,060
These are just things that you can think of and they will work.

732
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,060
Yeah.

733
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:45,060
Um, and that's all off a skill check.

734
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:48,460
So failing a skill check might send you off to doing something else for hours.

735
00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:49,460
So it's very light.

736
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:52,460
Um, just open-world is very, it was almost like boulders.

737
00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:53,460
So dynamic.

738
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:54,460
It's so dynamic.

739
00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:56,980
Like it's just crazy.

740
00:36:56,980 --> 00:37:00,660
So I then went up to the, she told me where they was.

741
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:01,660
I went up there.

742
00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:03,540
Uh, I freed this geezer.

743
00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:08,460
They had this geezer, had a noose around his neck and he was on a horse.

744
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:13,340
And then, um, uh, there was like four or five guys, they were shouting at him, rah rah.

745
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:16,820
I tried to get him down so I need him, failed the skill check or whatever.

746
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:18,420
Cause it all matters how you're dressed as well.

747
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:19,420
So there's different ways of speaking.

748
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:22,580
You speak politely, you speak like viciously, aggressively, nicely.

749
00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:25,540
If you're dressed like a night, they're going to see you more intimidating.

750
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:26,700
I have more respect for you.

751
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,180
If you're dressed like a bit of shit, they're not going to have the, and it depends what

752
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:31,340
skill check you think.

753
00:37:31,340 --> 00:37:35,020
If you're dirty, if you're clean, all the things I know you hate.

754
00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:36,020
Yeah.

755
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,020
Yeah.

756
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:38,020
Yeah.

757
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,020
So I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get them away from me.

758
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:40,020
Yeah.

759
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,020
So all, all them things, anyway, they, they, they whip the horse.

760
00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:43,020
The horse runs away.

761
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,060
He's dangling from the thing.

762
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:46,660
And then I ended up having to fight all these geezers.

763
00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:49,060
Now I was punching them with a punch them all up.

764
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:53,700
And then I'm looking, I'm thinking like the game won't game over you.

765
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:54,980
If something happens, it happens.

766
00:37:54,980 --> 00:38:00,340
And the game carries on just changes the way you have to go on to the next part.

767
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:02,100
Or so I'm thinking shit.

768
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,740
This geezer has been hanging from that tree for like 15 seconds or so.

769
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:05,740
He's going to die.

770
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:06,740
I haven't got time for this.

771
00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:08,220
I'm going to go and get my sword and kill everything.

772
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,220
One of them.

773
00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:10,220
All right.

774
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:11,220
Whoops.

775
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:12,220
Whoopsie daisy.

776
00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:13,220
Yeah.

777
00:38:13,220 --> 00:38:14,220
I shouldn't have done that.

778
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:15,220
But nevertheless, I get him down.

779
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:16,220
Rara.

780
00:38:16,220 --> 00:38:17,220
Um, and that's it.

781
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:19,740
That's the end of the mission.

782
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:23,220
But just out of my own curiosity, I thought, I wonder what happens if I go back and talk

783
00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:24,220
to the wife.

784
00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:25,220
There's no, there's no marker.

785
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,460
I just remembered where our house was.

786
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:29,940
I went back to the house.

787
00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:34,460
They were butchers family said their own butchery and stuff.

788
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:35,860
And I walked into the house.

789
00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:38,180
I shouldn't have been in there because it was after a certain time.

790
00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:39,660
And then it's like considered trespassing.

791
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:42,780
She's like nighttime or whatever, but she was still up.

792
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:47,860
So I, I, I locked, picked the door, went in just to talk to her.

793
00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:53,300
And as I went in, um, she started screaming at me, you murdered my husband, Rara.

794
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:57,780
But that was like, you would never have known that unless you went back to talk to her.

795
00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:01,180
So while I was trying to talk to her and I was trying to calm her down, like giving dial

796
00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:02,180
of choice, I'm sorry.

797
00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:03,180
Yeah.

798
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:06,540
So I was like, this geezer is like walked into the back of the cut scene or whatever.

799
00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:09,620
I'm not the cut scene, but the dialogue thing is just Shannon.

800
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:10,700
You shouldn't be in here.

801
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:11,700
Get out, get out.

802
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,700
Just fucking over and over again.

803
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:13,700
I'm like, I can't concentrate.

804
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:14,700
He's doing my head in.

805
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:16,740
So I'm just like, I'll leave this conversation.

806
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:20,100
Uh, so I turned around and he was like, get out of here.

807
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,820
So I was like, all right, I left.

808
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:26,460
I was so angry that he interrupted me trying to console this grieving widow that I had

809
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:27,460
caused.

810
00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:28,620
I decided I was going to kill him.

811
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:32,380
I hadn't killed anyone innocent in that game really.

812
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:37,100
So I waited in the, in the, in the sheds in the dark, I watched where he went, he went

813
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,100
in the house, shut the door.

814
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,980
I was like, oh, is he having it off of her then?

815
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:44,540
So I broke in again, like an hour later or something, looked around.

816
00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:46,500
He, he, he was upstairs.

817
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,460
Um, in they lit.

818
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:52,500
So what a lot of people do in them days or in this game, which is historically accurate

819
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:58,260
allegedly a lot of people, they'd have like hired hands, like not slaves, but people that

820
00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:00,620
they would use and they'd live in like the rafters.

821
00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:04,180
So they'd climb up and sleep on hail whales and stuff like that.

822
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:05,180
So I climbed the ladder there.

823
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:06,180
He was sleeping.

824
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:07,860
We're fucking idiot.

825
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:10,860
So yeah, put my hand over his mouth, stabbed him in the chest.

826
00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:11,860
He's dead.

827
00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:13,860
Fuck you piece of shit.

828
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:14,860
Robbed his stuff.

829
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:19,860
Um, and then I've done a 180 turn around and then down and down that ladder across up another

830
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:20,860
ladder.

831
00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:24,620
So directly opposite where he is, there's a, there's a woman sleeping there.

832
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:27,580
And I was like, Oh no, what have I done?

833
00:40:27,580 --> 00:40:30,420
That's probably his girlfriend or something.

834
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:35,540
I felt terrible that I had killed this geezer genuinely felt bad.

835
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:39,460
So I went over there and killed her as well, just out of guilt.

836
00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:42,060
So she didn't wake up and see this murder scene.

837
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:43,060
Yeah.

838
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:45,020
I want a boyfriend to be dead or whatever.

839
00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:46,020
Yeah.

840
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:49,980
And then I went downstairs and I thought, well, I've killed the butcher's husband.

841
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:50,980
You might as well kill the butcher's wife.

842
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:53,020
I've killed the butcher's, the wife's husband.

843
00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:54,020
Yeah.

844
00:40:54,020 --> 00:40:55,020
Yeah.

845
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,020
And I've killed both of her things.

846
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:57,020
Yeah.

847
00:40:57,020 --> 00:40:58,020
I might as well kill her.

848
00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:59,020
I might as well kill her.

849
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,020
Yeah, you might as well.

850
00:41:00,020 --> 00:41:01,020
I might as well kill her.

851
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:02,020
Yeah.

852
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:03,020
Yeah.

853
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:04,020
Yeah.

854
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:05,020
Yeah.

855
00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:06,020
I saved her a lot of aggro.

856
00:41:06,020 --> 00:41:07,020
So I murdered her as well.

857
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:13,020
And the only reason all that happened was because geezer was trapping off behind me.

858
00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:16,620
And they'll, and they'll like, they'll do funerals for these people.

859
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:17,620
Yeah.

860
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:18,620
Yeah.

861
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:22,660
And you could, and you could go to those funerals and, and everyone's like crying and sobbing

862
00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:26,500
and you could stand at the back and you go, of course this, all of this, you can, you

863
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:30,340
can dig graves up people's dead bodies, you can dig them up.

864
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:32,220
Have a little look, have a taste.

865
00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:36,460
But all that stuff, that organic stuff has just happened is just on a whim that I decided

866
00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:39,660
to go and see if there was any dialogue.

867
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:45,580
And but that is, that's just one scenario that is woven throughout the game in every

868
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,740
single possible aspect that you could possibly imagine.

869
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:56,060
It is, it is absolutely mind blowing how a game system is this immersive.

870
00:41:56,060 --> 00:42:01,100
And I know Sam was not enjoying it because I see him posted on Twitter.

871
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:06,460
He was not impressed with the dog barking and all this stuff, but I know that he's done

872
00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:07,460
a complete one 80.

873
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:08,460
Yeah.

874
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,460
He's enjoying it a little bit now.

875
00:42:10,460 --> 00:42:14,940
I got, I got a, uh, it's not massively long, but it is someone that seems to have summed

876
00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:15,940
it up.

877
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:20,340
Um, they finished it 160 hours they've put into it.

878
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:24,180
Um, and they said it has many microscopic downsides in it, which is normal.

879
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:27,700
Not all features are a hundred percent appreciated by the wide public.

880
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,540
Combat, combat has been significantly improved in my opinion.

881
00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:34,660
The new weapons were a welcome addition to an already expansive arsenal.

882
00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:38,340
And lastly, the CGI's were magnificent.

883
00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:44,500
Kingdom Come Deliverance as a franchise arrived into the world of disgusting, disgusting waves

884
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:49,420
of games that have no soul and with a simple blacksmith apprentice made it all feel whole.

885
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:54,740
I have not seen in the past five years, a game that made me want to play it instead of work.

886
00:42:54,740 --> 00:43:00,580
A game that did not make me look for collectibles to get a useless outfit or buy a season pass

887
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:03,100
to upgrade 10 levels of horsemanship.

888
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,500
I do not feel like I had to do side quests.

889
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,580
I did them because I was curious about the world and the people in it.

890
00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:14,260
The story, the emotions, so many games make an absolute drag to side, to do side content

891
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:19,300
like it is actually a chore, like go open 12 tombs or you won't have dinner, Timmy.

892
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,940
The world actually felt alive.

893
00:43:21,940 --> 00:43:24,780
Some things were repetitive, sure, but they were not forced upon you.

894
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,500
You the player have the power of choice, actual meaningful choices.

895
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:29,900
That was so refreshing.

896
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,700
No more choose option A or B, but the outcome will be the same.

897
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:38,300
So many good points, features, characters and emotions that destroyed gaming for me,

898
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:39,980
at least for the time being.

899
00:43:39,980 --> 00:43:42,780
There's only a little bit left.

900
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,660
As I ventured with Henry, I experienced several games at once.

901
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:50,180
The or of the Witcher saga, the thrill of the battles from Elder Scrolls and older Dragon

902
00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:52,940
Age games, the level up of souls like games.

903
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:55,340
There was a ladder and I climbed it with an open heart.

904
00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:59,540
I have played several games before Kingdom Come Deliverance Saga and I have never felt

905
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:00,540
complete.

906
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:01,540
Last paragraph.

907
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:06,660
A day ago, I finished the game with 160 hours played and tried to play new games such as

908
00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:11,940
a vowed Dragon Age, Valgaard, even went back to play Spider-Man 2 and they all failed in

909
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:15,540
the things I mentioned above about Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.

910
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:20,340
I am utterly disgusted by the state in which recent games have been done and released.

911
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,780
I never really gave much attention to it.

912
00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:25,380
I just didn't play them.

913
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:27,700
I just didn't play them and paid no attention to the games.

914
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:31,980
But after this experience, something rotten began to fill in my airways.

915
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:39,420
The mediocrity of games after after playing an exceptional one is clear as day.

916
00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:43,300
Imagine eating a magnificent lemon pie than having to go back to eating a shitty one

917
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,060
with half baked dough made out of shit.

918
00:44:46,060 --> 00:44:47,060
That's how I feel.

919
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:49,980
I don't think I can play other stuff for a while.

920
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:52,100
And yeah, that's about it.

921
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:55,260
That person has summed it up absolutely spot on.

922
00:44:55,260 --> 00:45:00,820
This game, as that person has just said, has completely and utterly opened my eyes.

923
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:04,340
That was ResponsibleSky6733 on Reddit.

924
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:10,260
That person is bang on because this game has opened my eyes to how have you done that with

925
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:14,220
that money and these companies are doing that with that money.

926
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:17,780
It's very impressive considering the difference, the budget difference between the first one

927
00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:19,340
and the second one is 4 million.

928
00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:20,340
And not just that, right?

929
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:22,980
It's sold phenomenally well.

930
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:24,820
And this is a niche game.

931
00:45:24,820 --> 00:45:26,220
This is the definition of niche.

932
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,900
This is like immersive sim medieval fantasy.

933
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:32,420
This isn't, there's no dragons and goblins in this.

934
00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:38,060
This is high, you know, it's all on the accuracy of stuff and this as well, right?

935
00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:39,060
Just look at that, right?

936
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:42,260
This is King, that's Kingdom Come One script.

937
00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:43,260
Yeah.

938
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:44,260
Fucking hell.

939
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:47,260
700,000 words that is.

940
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:49,700
That, that's 71421.

941
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,300
So that, that the KCD2 script is three times bigger than that.

942
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:54,300
Jesus Christ.

943
00:45:54,300 --> 00:46:00,020
KCD2 scripts now are the world record holder for longest script in history.

944
00:46:00,020 --> 00:46:05,140
It's more words of dialogue log in this game than all seven Harry Potter books, the three

945
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:08,620
Lord of the Ring books and all five of the Hunger Game books combined.

946
00:46:08,620 --> 00:46:09,620
Wow.

947
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:10,620
Fuck me.

948
00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:14,100
And this is a say, this is, and, and, and it's not just, oh, the story's great, which

949
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,460
it is by the way.

950
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:18,380
It's not like the side quests are great, which they are by the way.

951
00:46:18,380 --> 00:46:21,660
It's not like it's all just slob.

952
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:25,660
The game is phenomenal in every single aspect.

953
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:27,260
You know, sure.

954
00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:28,260
Some things are not perfect.

955
00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:29,260
Of course it's going to be bugs.

956
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:32,340
Of course nothing's perfect and there never will be that.

957
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:37,700
But how have they done that with the budget when these other companies are putting out

958
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:38,700
the drafts?

959
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:45,740
And this is all on a, on a, um, on a setting that, that isn't, isn't boring by any means,

960
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:47,500
but it's so basic.

961
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:56,860
You think medieval times, not only is that fucking, um, saturated to fuck in terms of,

962
00:46:56,860 --> 00:47:05,860
of media games, movies, programs, whatever medieval times, but at the, at the bare basics

963
00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:11,860
of it, you'd think, oh, I'm going to make a game is, is about medieval, medieval times.

964
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:14,260
You'd look at it, you go, well, that's going to be a bit fucking boring because you're

965
00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:18,940
not going to have dragons and shit flying around, but they've seemingly made a game

966
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:20,540
that is absolutely incredible.

967
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:21,860
With all due respect as well.

968
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:27,820
And I mean this, it's much be my, my ignorance, but not just that, but the point of history

969
00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:35,580
that they've chosen, it, Czech Republic, the invasion of Hungary.

970
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:38,500
If you're going to do that, you'd think, oh, they're going to do Samurais or they're going

971
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:39,500
to do Vikings.

972
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,820
They're going to do one of the ones that's like not loved, but do you know what I mean?

973
00:47:43,820 --> 00:47:45,700
They're the people like the good wars.

974
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:46,700
Yeah.

975
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:47,700
But you know what I mean?

976
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:48,700
Very niche.

977
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:53,180
And it's like for me anyway, that might be my ignorance, but I knew nothing about any

978
00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:54,180
of this.

979
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:56,220
King Wentz, a slash and Sigismund of Hungary.

980
00:47:56,220 --> 00:48:02,500
I knew nothing about all this until this game on KCD one, should I say, and now I'm fully

981
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:05,100
invested and they've, and they have reaped the rewards.

982
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,060
They are doing phenomenal.

983
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:08,340
They've made so much money.

984
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:09,700
I'm so happy for them.

985
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:11,540
I bought a collector's edition, didn't I?

986
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:13,060
So I was buzzing when that turned up.

987
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:14,060
They recouped.

988
00:48:14,060 --> 00:48:15,340
There's a good collector's edition as well.

989
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:22,820
It's got a horse and Henry and they recouped their $40 million budget within 24 hours of

990
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:24,260
launch.

991
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:28,620
And someone commented at the bottom and said, and yet all we ever hear about is how it's

992
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:32,860
impossible for developers to make a truly awesome game with a reasonable budget.

993
00:48:32,860 --> 00:48:37,100
And that half finished games live service is required to make money.

994
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:45,180
Well done war, war house on showing a safe typo on showing 90% of developers how it's

995
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:49,620
done, which again, it's another, it's another boulders gate story, isn't it?

996
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:50,620
It's phenomenal.

997
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:54,180
And then there's going to be expansions that are coming, which I'm excited to think about

998
00:48:54,180 --> 00:49:01,020
in the last two years or three years, the games that have really, really stood.

999
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:03,860
We've always loved an indie game because it's an indie game.

1000
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:04,860
Everyone likes the underdogs.

1001
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:08,220
You always, you always want to root for them, even if they're not doing the best because

1002
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:11,900
they're trying in a, in a world where, and that's with everything.

1003
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:12,900
Innovation.

1004
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:13,900
Yeah.

1005
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:16,300
Gaming, football, like whatever.

1006
00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:20,900
If the underdog has a chance of being decent, you fucking support them regardless.

1007
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:26,520
And in the last couple of years, the games that have really stood out are ones made by

1008
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,660
fucking indie developers.

1009
00:49:28,660 --> 00:49:31,100
Yeah, the retro, yep.

1010
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:36,380
Vampire survivors, Dave, the diver, Dave, the diver, boulders gate, King come deliverance

1011
00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:39,980
to like all these nominated for games of the years, man.

1012
00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:42,420
And you're, and you're putting out high five, right?

1013
00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:43,420
There's no excuse.

1014
00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:44,420
There's no excuse.

1015
00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:45,420
I'm sorry.

1016
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:46,420
I've had enough.

1017
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:47,420
Oh, high five rush.

1018
00:49:47,420 --> 00:49:48,420
We're in India too.

1019
00:49:48,420 --> 00:49:49,420
Sorry.

1020
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:50,420
There's no excuse.

1021
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:54,820
It is just, but I think what it, what it, what it all boils down to at the heart of

1022
00:49:54,820 --> 00:50:02,900
it is indie developers, probably like 90% of them are just gamers like you and I that

1023
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:05,540
have a deep passion for what they're creating.

1024
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:11,060
They haven't, they haven't been, they haven't been gobbled up by the corporate world and

1025
00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:12,820
seen as a fucking cash grab.

1026
00:50:12,820 --> 00:50:19,260
You see that happen all the time with singers, with fucking, with streamers, with, with podcasts,

1027
00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:25,740
people who start with a passion and a vision and then someone goes, oh, fuck, I can make

1028
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:27,340
some money off of this geyser.

1029
00:50:27,340 --> 00:50:31,340
And then you let that poison settle into you.

1030
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:35,160
And all of a sudden you're doing what you're being told because that's what someone else

1031
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,500
thinks is going to make the most money rather than you being the one that started that passion

1032
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:41,320
and owning it.

1033
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,900
And I think with indie developers, they just haven't been got ahold of yet.

1034
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:51,420
And I feel like that's why most of the games that have been really surprising and popular

1035
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:54,900
in the last couple of years have come from indie developers is because there's a genuine

1036
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:55,980
love there.

1037
00:50:55,980 --> 00:51:01,380
That's not saying that AAA studios and any other big budget games aren't made by people

1038
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:08,840
that love the games because they are, but those bigger games have fucking big suits

1039
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,620
sitting above them that are fucking holding them under the thumb because they want fucking

1040
00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:18,220
money so they can give it to their investors and stock shares and all that other bollocks

1041
00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:22,460
that comes with it, which ultimately is what is what drives a big part of the game in world.

1042
00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:25,420
But this is, this is the good thing, right?

1043
00:51:25,420 --> 00:51:26,420
Look what's happening.

1044
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:30,060
I know, I know they're getting, they're getting pushed back because all these games, this

1045
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,060
has never happened before.

1046
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:32,060
No.

1047
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:37,260
Or if it has, it hasn't been so widely known and spoken about about Concord.

1048
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:38,260
I'm not sure.

1049
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:41,620
I don't mean shit on these games, but these are the only ones I can think of about.

1050
00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:44,020
They are shit and that's why they're not doing well.

1051
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:48,780
Dragon Age, like there's reason, like you've got gamers that love games.

1052
00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:52,380
They're not doing it for any reason other than they're not good enough, right?

1053
00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:53,380
They're not good enough.

1054
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:56,140
You can take all your, your woke and your virtual signaling out of this.

1055
00:51:56,140 --> 00:52:01,300
The games inherently are not good enough compared and they're getting exposed.

1056
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:04,500
As I just said, we've KCD and boulders gate for the budgets.

1057
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:07,500
You're getting exposed because people are going, well, hold on.

1058
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:15,060
How is this game performing like this and amazing and yours is dross.

1059
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:16,060
Where's the money going?

1060
00:52:16,060 --> 00:52:17,540
And that's what the investors should be asking.

1061
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:18,740
Always the money.

1062
00:52:18,740 --> 00:52:23,660
And you have a lot of people now that are losing faith in those AAA studios.

1063
00:52:23,660 --> 00:52:24,660
Oh yes.

1064
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:31,620
You look at Ubisoft, there's a lot of people, including myself, that had pre-ordered, um,

1065
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:39,220
Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed shadows have now canceled that because you start to

1066
00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:43,620
see the gameplay and you think I'm not necessarily falling for this again.

1067
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:48,900
Like I'm, and, and you watch any f*****g shadows trailer, it will be filled with comments of

1068
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:52,740
people saying, remember, don't pre-order, do not pre-order this game.

1069
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:55,140
Let them, let them f*****g work for it.

1070
00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:57,660
If the game's good, then it's good is what it is.

1071
00:52:57,660 --> 00:52:59,500
And obviously you're still going to get people that will pre-order it.

1072
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,660
And fair enough, it's your money, do whatever the f*****g you want with it.

1073
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:07,140
But the majority of people are starting to pull away from that because the faith just

1074
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:08,140
isn't there.

1075
00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:16,380
I used to look at Ubisoft when it come to Assassin's Creed and think, I trust you have

1076
00:53:16,380 --> 00:53:17,380
my money.

1077
00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:18,380
I love the franchise.

1078
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:20,860
You like, you're going to smash it.

1079
00:53:20,860 --> 00:53:25,700
Whereas now you're looking and you go, no, we'll, we'll see what's going to come out

1080
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:27,420
on this because I'm not f*****g.

1081
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:34,860
I am more likely in the state that I am now of giving my money in terms of a pre-order

1082
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:38,060
to an indie developer than I am to a AAA.

1083
00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:42,820
It's a back kickstart saying, man, you've got these games coming out that are putting

1084
00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:46,900
AAA developers quadruple A, who's going to Ubisoft to shame.

1085
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:47,900
Right?

1086
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:52,820
So these, these AAA companies are either going to have to innovate or die.

1087
00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:53,820
Yeah.

1088
00:53:53,820 --> 00:53:56,380
And I think you will see some die.

1089
00:53:56,380 --> 00:54:02,260
Just like mainstream media, IGN's, GameSpots, all these, no, I, I, me personally, and I

1090
00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:04,380
know a lot of other people don't go to them no more.

1091
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:05,380
No.

1092
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:10,260
They go to yous and not us, but they go to the average gamer that they watch, the YouTuber

1093
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:13,460
that they trust because they have similar interests and they go, I know you're not going

1094
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:14,460
to talk s**t.

1095
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:15,940
And that's, and that's the bottom line.

1096
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:18,380
And then what mainstream media and gaming is dying as well.

1097
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:23,260
And what you also find is that the people that you do come to for reviews and things

1098
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:30,080
like that, you see a trend of the minute that a big company starts sponsoring that person,

1099
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,620
you watch their f**king viewership go down because a lot of people see that as a code,

1100
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:36,220
no, you're f**king, you've sold out at this point.

1101
00:54:36,220 --> 00:54:41,100
You're, or if you're lucky enough, you still hold something about you and you maintain

1102
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,180
that audience, but it happens a hell of a lot.

1103
00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:50,380
It would be, I feel like obviously this podcast isn't big, but it's something that we love

1104
00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:55,620
and have been f**king eager to get back to and we'll continue to build this.

1105
00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:59,620
And like I said to you earlier over message now that we have an actual hub in that this

1106
00:54:59,620 --> 00:55:04,340
is, this is in a home that I own and we can f**king, we can tailor this to however the

1107
00:55:04,340 --> 00:55:09,220
f**k we want to give a real good crack at making it something big.

1108
00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:10,540
I think we've worked hard on this.

1109
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:12,740
I think we've done it consistently over time.

1110
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:17,700
I mean, I'm not saying, oh, we did like loads of work in this day and that we've been consistent

1111
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:18,980
for years now.

1112
00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:22,900
You think the star Wars celebration went to that's two years.

1113
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:24,420
But you would, we were already doing this then.

1114
00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:28,820
But if we suddenly got sponsored by, I don't know, you listen to this episode and at the

1115
00:55:28,820 --> 00:55:36,540
beginning there's a f**king, there's a, there's an advert for f**king no.

1116
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:39,820
We ask for early review code of a game and we get it.

1117
00:55:39,820 --> 00:55:44,940
I understand why people would be like, they've trusted us a month early with f**king say

1118
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:45,940
GTA six.

1119
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:51,140
So just for example, massive, I don't want to get on rock star shit list, but I would

1120
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:57,180
not, I would never just lie if it's shit and I have to say it.

1121
00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:59,460
And if it's the detriment, so be it.

1122
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:01,100
But we're not one to talk shit.

1123
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:03,620
We would tell, we'll tell it how it is.

1124
00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:05,460
And I don't think anything would ever change that.

1125
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:10,140
And we're, and we have spoke to, we spoke to a company before about a review code and

1126
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:14,620
we just missed the, missed the otherwise we would have had one.

1127
00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:16,060
And there's something that we need to do more.

1128
00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:17,540
We need to be more active on social media.

1129
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:19,200
We don't post enough on there.

1130
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,380
We don't do enough on Twitter.

1131
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:21,380
That's me.

1132
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:22,380
We don't do enough on Instagram.

1133
00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:29,820
I mean, it's all both of us really, but we need to do more to push it, but we are trying

1134
00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:33,980
our best and I think we do give a good account of ourselves and we won't talk shit.

1135
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:38,700
So if we were an indie podcast, but that's, that's the, that's the point that I'm trying

1136
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:44,180
to make is that it, we do this because we, we, we love doing it.

1137
00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:51,100
And we haven't, we haven't entered into that world where someone is other than the patron,

1138
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,420
which even then the patrons fucking our closest friends.

1139
00:56:54,420 --> 00:57:00,500
Um, that, that's where our, our revenue stream for this podcast, um, comes from, but we believe

1140
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,500
that shit's getting unpaused.

1141
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:07,860
But we haven't, we haven't entered the realms where, um, someone that we don't know or a

1142
00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:13,980
company that we don't know is paying us to produce something for like with this podcast.

1143
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:21,540
Um, and I feel like there's a period where you, you acknowledge that and in, and enjoy

1144
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:24,860
that you're doing something because you love it, not because someone is fucking trying

1145
00:57:24,860 --> 00:57:25,900
to make money out of you.

1146
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:29,940
And I feel like that is what comes through with a lot of these, these indie games.

1147
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:34,460
Like you say, with kingdom kind of deliverance too, just from the fucking script alone, seeing

1148
00:57:34,460 --> 00:57:38,940
that in its visual format, those people care about what they've, what they've put down

1149
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:43,780
on those pages and it shines through on the reviews and the fucking revenue that they

1150
00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:44,780
make.

1151
00:57:44,780 --> 00:57:52,420
This is, this is, this is such a niche game that has made a shit ton of money and with

1152
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:57,780
such a small budget, I wonder if I can find out how much is actually critically acclaimed

1153
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:02,300
that game that is top, top whack of a game.

1154
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:06,140
You find you'll, you'll be, you'll struggle to find a game as good as that.

1155
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:09,280
And, and, and it's an indie developer, man.

1156
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,540
If you can do it, why can't the companies that have endless resources do it?

1157
00:58:13,540 --> 00:58:20,340
And how, how, imagine as a development team, how successful you must feel if you've created

1158
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:27,180
a game with a $40 million budget and then made it back in less than 24 hours when you've

1159
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:28,180
released.

1160
00:58:28,180 --> 00:58:33,740
So you've hit the button to release that game, gone to bed, woken up, gone to work.

1161
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:38,500
And then by the time you've come home from work, you, all of that blood, sweat and tears

1162
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:42,580
that you poured into that game has just come back like that.

1163
00:58:42,580 --> 00:58:46,220
All that money and some has just come back in a day.

1164
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:47,220
Maybe, yeah.

1165
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:48,220
You just go, what the fuck?

1166
00:58:48,220 --> 00:58:49,220
Like what?

1167
00:58:49,220 --> 00:58:54,420
Like, but it took them over, I was it over a year to sell a million copies of KCD one

1168
00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:57,140
and even send a million of that was tough going.

1169
00:58:57,140 --> 00:58:58,140
Literally.

1170
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:00,380
I'm reading this right now from 11 days ago on Reddit.

1171
00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:04,860
It took KCD one a year to sell 2 million units.

1172
00:59:04,860 --> 00:59:10,380
And then it says kingdom come deliverance to her sold 2 million units in less than two

1173
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:11,980
weeks and this was 11 days ago.

1174
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:19,060
So I mean, so they, they, I'd love to, yeah.

1175
00:59:19,060 --> 00:59:23,980
And the budget is rumored to have been reasonable, a rarity in the age of 200 to 300 million

1176
00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:28,220
games, million being spent on games, many of which aren't even that good.

1177
00:59:28,220 --> 00:59:32,100
It's a, it's a change of, of, it's a change of the times.

1178
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:37,060
I feel like, I feel like gaming as a whole is, is, is shifting.

1179
00:59:37,060 --> 00:59:41,700
And it probably will be a point where these indie developers do end up being the next

1180
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:47,220
triple A developers because there will be quite a few of them given the chance that

1181
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:48,220
will want to get bigger.

1182
00:59:48,220 --> 00:59:50,460
There's no difference where anything that you're running.

1183
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:53,060
If it's your own business, of course you want it to get bigger.

1184
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:55,540
And sometimes it would be stupid not to.

1185
00:59:55,540 --> 01:00:01,380
So I feel like there is a, there is a power shift going on there where the, the big developers

1186
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:04,660
are starting to get a bit fucking worried.

1187
01:00:04,660 --> 01:00:09,940
I think maybe it has to come down to at some point the size of the studio as well.

1188
01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:16,660
Like so boulders gate or larian and, um, warhorse there's small studios.

1189
01:00:16,660 --> 01:00:18,220
So I imagine everybody knows each other.

1190
01:00:18,220 --> 01:00:19,740
Everyone's checking in on each other.

1191
01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:20,740
What are you doing?

1192
01:00:20,740 --> 01:00:21,740
What are you doing?

1193
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:24,980
Whereas these big companies, EA and stuff like that, I imagine there's bits that you

1194
01:00:24,980 --> 01:00:25,980
don't even know exists.

1195
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:28,180
Like there's someone over there that does the sound.

1196
01:00:28,180 --> 01:00:32,740
Someone over there does, you know, hundreds whole whole departments doing these things

1197
01:00:32,740 --> 01:00:38,860
and you're not even aware of their names and, and you are not aware, for example, like motion

1198
01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:40,300
capture, I'm doing a voice.

1199
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:41,900
Well, that voice sounds weird.

1200
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:45,300
Well he done the voice and then the motion capture was done a day after and they don't

1201
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:48,820
even know what they were motion capturing all these things.

1202
01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:52,820
When it's a tight knit studio and everyone's there, it's probably a good environment as

1203
01:00:52,820 --> 01:00:55,420
well because everyone's helping each other rooting for each other.

1204
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:59,340
And with the big ones, there'll be a lot of justification in pricing.

1205
01:00:59,340 --> 01:01:02,100
No different to, no different to fucking anything.

1206
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:07,020
You think the industry that we work in, there's a shit ton of money being thrown away.

1207
01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:10,380
There's fucking loads of exploitation going on in the industry we work in.

1208
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:11,860
Fucking loads.

1209
01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:16,300
And it's the same with most fucking big industries and gaming is not exempt from that.

1210
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:22,700
If you've got a budget of $400 million, you can guarantee there will be millions that

1211
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:28,400
are going to things that have no place being involved with the, with the development of

1212
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,400
said game.

1213
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,900
Where money is, there's corruption.

1214
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:31,940
Of course there is.

1215
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:33,660
And that is where it starts to shine through.

1216
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:38,740
Four million on lighting and the game's got no lighting.

1217
01:01:38,740 --> 01:01:40,420
Is that lighting payment for you, mate?

1218
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:41,420
Yeah.

1219
01:01:41,420 --> 01:01:42,980
You go, where the fuck's that come from?

1220
01:01:42,980 --> 01:01:45,140
And it's, it's, it's nice.

1221
01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:52,540
I like it sitting as being someone that is a, a consumer of the media rather than a creator

1222
01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:53,540
of the media.

1223
01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:58,300
So there is no risk for me other than, than spending 60 quid on the game and then it being

1224
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:04,500
shit which even then is minimal cause you just wait for, for trusted reviews.

1225
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:08,540
It's, it's, it's, it's nice seeing it because you go, right.

1226
01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:11,220
Well, the people that have been fucking us over for the last couple of years are starting

1227
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:12,780
to get fucked over themselves.

1228
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:14,300
Everything comes crashing down eventually.

1229
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:19,340
If you're, I feel like a lot of these companies and I feel like Ubisoft is a big one.

1230
01:02:19,340 --> 01:02:23,300
I've got too big for their boots and, and used to the weight that they can throw around

1231
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:28,460
and they're coming across developers that can throw a fucking decent punch.

1232
01:02:28,460 --> 01:02:29,940
About fucking time and all.

1233
01:02:29,940 --> 01:02:30,940
About fucking time.

1234
01:02:30,940 --> 01:02:31,940
Anyway, we're back.

1235
01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:32,940
We're back, baby.

1236
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:34,460
We're going to do the patron now.

1237
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:36,660
And I'm going to piss before I piss myself.

1238
01:02:36,660 --> 01:02:38,340
Pissy, pissy, pissy.

1239
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:39,700
Thanks for sticking with us, everyone.

1240
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:41,420
We're back, back in Wholesome every week.

1241
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:42,420
We're fucking back.

1242
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:43,420
I'm not moving again.

1243
01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:44,420
I'm not doing this again.

1244
01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:45,420
It was fucking awful.

1245
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:48,300
So you'll get one of these every single week because I'm not fucking leaving this room.

1246
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:49,380
I'm not fucking leaving.

1247
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:50,380
See you later.

1248
01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:51,380
Uro.