It's 2025, this is the first episode of the year.
Hello, welcome, Connor's here, boom.
Yep, Ash isn't here.
Bing, bong.
No surprise.
He's ill, genuinely he is ill.
I've messaged him before Christmas
and he was feeling like dog shit then
and he's had a terrible Christmas
to the point where he's been off of work as well.
So that's when you know he's really fucking ill
because normally he goes in and just shits
and pisses himself at work.
So it must be real bad
because he hasn't done that this time.
Would have been loving the Christmas shifts doing.
Fuck all but pooing in the back of a van.
Absolutely fucking nothing and getting paid 400 quid
for sitting there shitting yourself.
Jesus, bless him.
So you're here saving the bacon, which is fantastic.
Back.
Which ties in, what the fuck?
Oh, that's that, it's because of the zip.
I'm like, what is fucking headset?
Everything's falling apart, the room's different.
Yeah, room's empty, echoey, cold, it is late.
It's getting dark.
The toilet light doesn't work.
So it was pissed by sound.
Toilet still flushes though.
So that's always a fucking decent one.
There was a time when it didn't, now it does.
It's all right, I'd go down the end of the garden
and have a piss but you know.
Shit on the floor.
You know what Michael asked me today,
it was like when you do the podcast,
he's like, how long does it take you to write a script?
And I went, script.
Script.
You talk that, we turn up and talk shit.
Yeah, he was asking me, he was like,
what are you gonna talk about?
I was like, fucking no, I don't have a clue.
Still don't have a clue.
I haven't played any games in ages.
This is a gap filler.
Well, this is the thing, right?
So the only game that I've been playing
is World of Warcraft and Marvel Rivals, right?
Which I know you haven't been playing Marvel Rivals.
Reason that I'm playing it is because obviously
we're in a lull with WoW,
because there's no season at the moment, blah, blah, blah.
And Marvel Rivals is all I keep fucking seeing on TikTok.
Oh yeah, it's massive, it's everywhere.
All of the Discord lot were like, oh, let's fucking,
let's play it one day.
So I was like, oh, I didn't know it was free at the time.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, it was free download.
So I downloaded it on Steam.
And oh my God, mental.
He's loving it.
It's a very, very fun game because it's just Overwatch,
but Marvel, literally.
Yeah.
But it's, the graphics are better.
It does definitely, if you didn't know,
it definitely does look like you're just playing Overwatch.
Yeah, yeah.
All of a sudden see fucking Venom's 19 inch.
Oh yeah, the mods that you can get are fucking ridiculous.
My mate Owen, he's got all the mods for it.
And he was like, oh, he was like,
you don't want to see fucking Venom.
Cause he changed, I can't remember which character it was,
but one of them to the fucking,
it was either Among Us or the fucking,
you remember that?
What was that game where you had to collect scrap?
Lethal Company.
Lethal Company, it was one of those dudes,
I think, where you could change into.
And then he was like, oh yeah, you don't want to see fucking,
you don't want to see Venom.
And he was being really shirty about it.
And he was like, no, go on, fucking bullied him into it,
fucking show us.
And he streamed it and then just gave us a quick glimpse.
And yeah, it was Venom with a massive cock.
I was like, what the fuck?
So what is that?
But only you can see it if you've got the mod on.
No one else can actually see it.
Fucking nude squirrel girl or some shit.
Yeah, there's loads of weird shit.
But it's really, really good, really fun.
The only thing that I'm-
Can't say free Taiwan though.
Can you not?
Have you not seen that?
Does it block you from that?
Does it ban you?
Yeah, well it doesn't ban you.
It says-
Don't say that.
Inappropriate content in message or something like that.
Yeah, great.
The only thing that I would point out
that I would quite like to see,
which is a very fucking easy one to fix
and 100% being a free game will be,
is just more cosmetics.
Because the outfits and stuff for the characters
at the moment are a bit waft.
All the ones that I'm just playing are a bit waft.
So you got the main character that I was playing
is Jeff, the land shark thing.
Never fucking heard of him before.
Yeah, I don't know what that's about.
I think from the comics maybe.
I don't know, someone can correct me on that.
I'm not a Marvel or DC fucking fan.
I'm not in that world at all.
So I don't really know.
And it's same with like Squirrel Girl.
I fucking no idea where she's come from.
Jeff, the land shark.
But he's a healer and he just squirts water on people.
It's very, very fun.
And then he like can fucking,
it looks like he's swimming in the water
but he's actually the underground
and he's swimming around healing himself up.
When it says, what's the story behind Jeff, the land shark?
When the West Coast Avengers led by Kate Bishop
defeated the West Coast version of the masters of evil
that Modoc Superior was part of.
Modoc Superior's former employee and nemesis,
Gwen Paul founded and adopted a baby land shark,
naming it Jeff after a kitten of the same name
Gwen had adopted earlier in the series.
Fair enough, a role of that fun character.
What I'm playing now though is Blair.
First appearance was January, 2019.
So very, very zoom-er.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I've switched to Scarlet Witch anyway.
There's a running theme here.
And at the moment I'm being bullied for it
and I won't stand for it for much longer in that.
Feet.
In World of Warcraft, I was maining,
I've now sort of changed a little bit.
A Paladin, Holy Paladin was Retribution
and then I've now gone back to Retribution.
And it's like a three button class.
You can fucking play it with one hand.
Easy cheesy, yeah.
It's extremely fucking easy and also very, very good.
It's very high on the meters.
And because of that, most people fucking play one.
They're the most popular class in the game, right?
And they're sort of like a running thing
that if you play that you're a bit dumbed down
because you're just playing an easy class.
You're just thick.
Now with Scarlet Witch,
so obviously when you're playing on PC,
there's no aim assist or anything like that.
But the movement on PC is obviously fucking a lot easier.
And I...
Aiming actual weapons is...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
However, with Scarlet Witch, there is no aiming involved.
So the way that it works is obviously you've got
your orb thing, red bull bollocks thing.
I don't know what it is,
but you're like fucking zap,
suck the life out of people or whatever.
And you use that.
Is she a support character or is she?
No, no, no, she's DPS.
But it'll basically be like,
say I'm trying to fucking kill you.
Because that sounds a little bit like, who was it?
Moira from... Moira.
Who had the beam.
Yeah, similar in that, but the beam itself that you fire,
all you do is hold down left click
and it just consistently a stream comes out.
But you don't have to be aiming at someone
for it to be...
As long as, say you're in front of me,
if I'm sort of aiming over there,
then it's gonna fucking...
It's like it has sort of like a six yard radius type thing.
So it will just fucking,
whatever's within that invisible circle,
it will start hitting and it will lock onto it.
So in terms of accuracy and needing to fucking land shots,
you really don't need to.
You just hold down left click.
There's no reloading, there's no nothing.
One of her movement ability is that she goes invisible
and can basically float away,
move around and levitate and shit for,
it's like two or three seconds,
but she's immune to damage at that point.
On the outside looking in,
she turns into a red orb and fucking floats away
and then comes back and you can do that twice
and it's on like a 10 second cool down.
So it means that if someone's attacking you
and you get down to barely any health,
pop, see you later, just off I go.
Seems like a very mix of a lot of Overwatch.
They've kind of mixed every once.
A lot of the abilities are very similar.
Yeah, Overwatch characters have just gone like,
we've got new ones for Marvel
and we're gonna blend a lot of characters stuff together.
There's big similarities there.
And if you right click, it shoots an orb,
which you have to aim with.
That does a decent amount of damage.
She also has another ability
where she'll throw an orb down.
It's like a mine that detonates after,
I think it's like one second
and it will throw a sphere on the ground
and if anything runs through it,
they're stunned for like 0.5 seconds.
And then her ultimate ability is where she like,
she basically fucking powers up, levitates
and she's like, pure chaos,
but it takes fucking forever, right?
She's like gathering all these orbs that come up
and then just fucking fires them out
and one shots everyone.
I can't work out the radius of it.
I can't work out the range of it.
I can't work out the timings of it.
Yeah, I think I've seen a video
and they've said it's basically,
you're arranged DBS,
but you have to be very close to everyone.
Be close, yeah, yeah.
To make that ult work.
Very easy, very fun class.
With that ult, I must have used it maybe like 50 times
and I've landed it maybe 10
because you either pop it
and obviously it's loud as fuck, right?
So you hear her saying ultimate, well, pure chaos
and obviously everyone's then looking around going,
where the fuck is she?
Yeah, and then just focusing.
And then obviously you have to be next to the people
that you're wanting to kill.
And by that point, your big glowing red fucker.
So they just turn around and go bang, bang, you're dead.
I've got some seriously cool fucking kills of it
where I've wiped an entire team with it,
but there's very,
it's probably the most annoying part about the character
if I'm honest, but getting back to it,
people keep fucking rinsing me for playing that character.
And like I explained to everyone in the Discord last night,
I don't have, not last night, the other day,
I said, I don't have all the fucking time in the world.
You tell them.
I'm enjoying the game, okay?
I've played all the other classes, I will shit at them,
most of them, right?
I'm sure I could get good at all the other classes.
I can't be bothered, right?
We found a decent comp, right?
No one's whinging when we're playing a game
when I'm sitting there, 30 plus kills, all right?
No one's fucking whinging then.
Then when the game's finished, we've won
and it pops up MVP, it's me.
Oh yeah, of course.
No one's fucking whinging then, right?
You know what I mean?
I have more good games than I do bad.
So all this incessant fucking complaining,
are you playing an easy class?
What if someone else wants to play it?
Fuck them, fuck them.
Had that the other day.
If you ask nicely.
Someone was hovering over it, cause I'm quick.
We're unplugged into the ethernet as well.
I've got barely any loading time.
So I'm just fucking straight in there,
picking the character.
I'm quick on it.
And then someone joined us at random.
Please, I wanted to play that.
Yeah, and they were hovering over it.
And they were like, please let me play Scarlet Witch.
It was no, no, not happening.
It was the same shit in Overwatch.
You go, I can only play this, that and that.
I go, don't give a fuck, I'm playing it.
Too bad, soz.
Yeah, it's fair to say that that scene
missed me quite a bit, the Overwatch.
Well Overwatch 2 was, this is the thing I don't understand.
I don't know why either.
Well me and Jay and Ash for a while
were playing Overwatch 2.
And I really, really liked it.
I was playing Brigitte and she's basically a paladin.
She was a healer.
Yeah, it was like a healer tank.
Mason, shield, and again, very easy character
because you could just fucking up front
and just smack people with your mason
and put your shield up and then heal yourself
at the same time.
Again, an easy character to play.
But I don't really understand what happened.
That's why I'm so dubious about Rivals
because I lived and breathed Overwatch 2
for about two weeks and then fucking put it down
and never went back to it.
It's probably a bit of hype because there's no,
like unless you're playing Overwatch
and when did Overwatch 2 come out?
So if people do seem to really enjoy that style of game,
which isn't necessarily for me
because I don't really wanna play with randoms.
I'll tell you why it's mega fun
is because I'm playing with a whole group of people.
I was gonna say Overwatch 2 came out in 2023.
Yeah, it's not old.
Replacement to the 2016 Overwatch.
I think you'd genuinely like it.
I really do.
I think I'd enjoy it with the right people.
Because we're playing it so you got myself, Owen, Joe,
wow, Connor, Leon, and John are the main
and then Leon's pal whose name escapes me.
So there's already more than a full team there.
A squad, B squad.
It's good fun, man.
When you're playing with people, it is genuinely fun.
It's way more fun.
If you was playing it solo,
then yeah, it's probably a bit like, ah.
That's always been the issue with them.
What was it, 2016?
I'm trying to think what I was doing
about that sort of time.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been or had a stable enough
gaming group to play.
Because what, was Overwatch five or six?
Five, I think.
Pretty sure it was five.
So it's like, didn't have enough people
to get a stable five man to then enjoy it.
And then you play with randoms
and you know how fucking painful that ends up being
that you're like, I can't be asked.
Well, there was a little event going on
to get a skin and shit like that for Jeff.
And it was basically Splatoon where you cover the shit.
And it was fun, but I did that on my own.
Didn't take long.
And it was fucking infuriating
because whatever my team was doing was fucking useless.
When I played a game with everyone in that game mode,
we fucking obliterated.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I think there is an element of cohesion
that just makes so much easier.
It's just easier because you can all talk to each other
and go, right, this comp isn't working.
I mean, obviously I don't change up.
I'm staying as fucking Scott.
God, this is who I want to be.
This comp isn't working.
We need to do something to change.
Sorry, you need to do something to fucking change it all.
I'm not doing anything.
Do better.
Very happy to sit there and win.
It isn't working with only one healer.
No, I'm full well.
I can switch over to play Jeff and be that extra support.
I'm not gonna though, because I like the kills.
Yeah.
Fucking ridiculous.
No, I've really not been on a gaming thing at the minute.
I don't know why.
I think Christmas, I was doing the mini painting fiasco
and playing with my pals friends.
And then it's just been Christmas
and I have not had the energy.
Yeah.
But I think I'd probably give it a go,
but I've got so much fucking backlog
that I haven't finished Veil Guard.
Fucking hell, yeah, Jesus.
Because that was like the last time I came on.
I haven't fucking bothered with that.
But yeah, well, I suppose if, hang on, let me look it up.
If it's free, then it's more likely
that I'll give it a go, but.
Yeah, it ain't gonna fucking cost you anything.
You download it, let the hype die down,
stop playing it.
Yeah, Marvel rival.
Yeah, when everyone decides, yeah,
they've had the three weeks worth of fun
and they're like, yeah, there's nothing more
to the fucking game anymore.
We're done.
We're done, let's move on to the next one.
Well, this is the thing is that obviously
everyone's moving over onto ranked
and we've already got one person in the fucking Discord
that's a grand master.
Of course.
Leon's fucking, I believe he's,
Fucking bunch of nerds.
That's what I'm saying.
Fucking sweaty.
Sweaty cunts.
I haven't got that many hours, you cunts.
Owen's fucking just as bad and all.
Like, oh, Jesus Christ, but ranked is fun
because it means something.
Yeah, you actually, you're not getting
fucking bottom of the barrel.
But also.
Opposition.
Where most of us haven't bothered playing ranked yet.
We are good.
We're not the fucking crazy, but we are good.
We're all good, so we're really good
in fucking Bronze tier.
Yeah, literally, so we jump into ranked
and we're all still in Bronze tier
and you go, yeah, we're fucking slaughtering it.
This is great fun.
You get to fucking Silver and like,
it's getting a bit harder now.
This is a bit fucking rough,
getting the Gold and then fucking playing.
You go, yeah, this is tough.
This diamond or fucking whatever,
because they're all trying to get me
to play League of Legends as well.
Not touching it.
Do not.
I'm not touching it.
My powers, you know, Dan.
That's the other group I have that we play D&D,
but they are still in the League scene
and they have been since it came out
and I cannot understand it and I cannot join it.
John's a Buddhist because of League of Legends.
He was so toxic, he started practising
being a fucking Buddhist.
But that's how mental that is.
What did I just say?
I saw something on our Discord just popped up
saying someone's streaming and I'm like...
But I was talking to people,
because I said, when everyone was trying
to get me to fucking jump into it,
because obviously off the back of watching Arcane,
because I think that's where a lot of people
have been trapped in it.
They've watched Arcane, gone, this is fucking incredible.
I've just, I literally just opened the Discord.
I haven't opened it in a few days
and there's a fucking biscuit box,
McVitie's fucking family circle box.
And it's like, oh, I could do with some of that.
Steph's got one fucking...
That's so funny.
We were literally slagging one off last night.
We've got no biscuits and she was like,
I've got a family circle upstairs.
We both looked at each other,
I was like, oh, it's such a dead box of biscuits.
But we'll open it anyway.
Have a little magic.
I mean, you've got nothing else.
I'm just like, that's why I've just looked at it and gone,
I could do with a biscuit.
Oh, you want biscuits?
I'll give you biscuits.
I can get biscuits.
Don't tease me.
I can get you a biscuit if you want a biscuit.
And then look, there's some feet.
We still, that'll appeal to you.
Yeah, great.
For some reason I have a foot fit, apparently.
That's the running theme.
Let it roll for a little bit longer
and I'll pause it and get you some fucking Bickeys.
What the fuck was I talking?
Yeah, they were trying to get me on League.
Yeah, because Arcane was good.
I feel like the second series was a bit seasoned, sorry.
It was a bit, the storyline of it was a little bit
over the place, but ultimately-
I just think it was such a good series, man.
Ultimately, the style of it
and everything going on with it was just like-
But what a fucking, what a catfish though.
You play Arcane, you watch Arcane, you go,
oh my God, this is based on a game.
You go, this is a fucking game, crazy.
And then you jump into League of Legends.
Fucking basically RuneScape.
I mean, it's nothing to do with anything like the fucking series.
Have you seen some of the little animations
that went with, like when they did new characters
and stuff like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sick.
Really fucking cool.
And then you go, oh, it's just for League.
You go, what's this, what's this?
This is really, really interesting.
And you go, oh, it's just League of Legends.
But they're all, everyone's jumping,
like World of Warcraft has a, not a season pass,
but like a seasonal thing where you can get cosmetics
and stuff like that.
You just gain it passively.
And it's steampunk themed.
And they have the fists and everything that look,
I've got a picture where it looks.
They release basically all of the skins
for those characters that appeared in Arcane, didn't they?
Literally that fucking transmog.
Decent.
Someone's made Vart Aven with the fist weapons
and everything, you go, yeah.
You've inspo'd that off of somewhere, I don't know where.
But like I was pointing out to my Lord,
I was like League of Legends is the most toxic environment
in the world.
And someone made a good point, I think it was,
I think it was my mate Joe.
And he was like, he was like, World of Warcraft
is also the most toxic fucking game that you can play.
Yeah, I've literally scrolled up, what, like seven videos.
And it says yesterday at 11, 17,
it's a fucking League meme or little video, whatever.
And I'm like, oh, grooming it.
Fuck off with that shit.
And then above that, it's,
I'm hearing Marvel rivals.
Marvel rivals, there you go.
But they sent me, because John played Shaco,
is the character in League that he plays.
It's like some clown rogue thing.
And he sent me the video of the world's best Shaco,
apparently, and it was a compilation
of all of his best plays and stuff like that.
Hey look, it's me.
Because I was saying to him, I was like,
I don't understand it.
I see a League video, I don't get it.
But at the same time, I can understand that
because if you showed someone that's never played WoW
before any MMO.
He's jungling.
Yeah, exactly.
Go tap, go tap.
I don't know what any of that means.
He's feeding, he's bottom.
I have no idea what any of that means.
So they're trying to explain it to me.
And then John sent me this video and I watched it.
And I think he's got his whatever.
I can't remember his fucking name,
but I'm sure anyone that's listening that plays League
will know the geezer that I'm talking about.
But he looks like a typical fucking League player.
You know what I mean?
Big massive geezer, fucking neck beard.
And he's just like that,
like a scene out of fucking South Park.
That's quite mean to be fair.
Apologies.
But he did look like that.
You before you lost your wife.
I didn't understand any of it.
And I watched it, it was about a 17 minute video
or something like that.
And I watched about five minutes of it.
And I kept skipping through it and seeing different bits.
And I didn't understand it.
A lot of the time he's hiding in a bush.
A lot of the time he's dying.
And a lot of the time I just don't understand
what's happening.
And I looked through the comments,
oh my God, three minutes, five seconds
was the best player I've ever seen in the world.
Oh my God, you're amazing.
This is why you're the world's best.
And I'm looking, I don't understand any of this.
And I said to John, I said,
the geezer's just dying through most of it.
I said, what is it?
What is this going?
And he starts talking about gold.
Some gold that you drop or something and smart plays.
And I was like, I don't get it.
You collect gold to get items that makes you better.
To upgrade your characters.
And then you get better in that session.
And then you're just more powerful
and the more gold you've got, you get things faster.
But he was saying like, there could be some scenarios
where you've killed a load of things
and gained a load of gold,
but then you allow yourself to die by the hands
of someone else because it's actually,
they won't gain as much gold from killing you
as you've gained from everything else and blah, blah, blah.
And he was like, don't worry,
we'll get you involved with it.
We'll get you playing it.
And I was like, nah, I'm so uninterested in it,
which is crazy because it's one of the most popular games
in the world consistently.
Consistently.
What is it thinking at the minute?
To the point, like the competitions and stuff
that run for league are mental.
The amount of money that is involved around that.
And I know nothing about the game whatsoever.
And the only bits that I know are through
what other people have told me through the Discord.
So I've just looked up League of Legends current players
and it's come up live play account stats
has a total of 150 million registered players.
Over 117 million players are actively playing monthly.
Fucking hell.
That's mad.
So there's only a drop off of what?
Like 30, 33 million online players in the last hour,
nearly a million in the last hour.
Nearly a million people are playing League of Legends.
Jesus Christ.
See that makes me want to try it.
Active players in the last month.
130, well, nearly 132 million.
Jesus Christ.
Fuck me.
See, it makes you want to play it
just to see what the fuck is the hype, what is going on.
Thing is I've watched enough of my pals play it
and I just look at it and go,
that's, I already know that's not my style of game.
It's the click to move that fucks me off.
In the slightest I see it and go,
I can't follow what the fuck is going on.
I'm not a fucking bad gamer,
but anything that's going on in that moment,
I do not understand what the fuck is going on.
I just see things blipping around,
people moving and fucking doing whatever.
Because I've played MOBAs before.
I'm not new to MOBAs.
I've played the likes of Paragon,
which when I was talking about it the other day,
is actually shut down.
I didn't even realise.
Smite, there's quite a few MOBA clones out there,
but obviously, but those play differently
to how League of Legends play,
the play style and that click to movement
and the top down camera view and all of that.
So it's, yeah, I'm probably on the same stance as you,
where I know that League isn't my cup of tea.
MOBAs don't do it for me at all.
No, but I want to see exactly what the hype is about.
It's annoying to know that my,
like I can meet up with people,
like they came round New Year's Eve to New Year's Day,
and obviously we were doing our own thing,
but even when we meet up outside of that
and whenever else,
that they can get onto the League topic
and it will, I'll just shut off,
because I'm like,
and it was even this way fucking 12 years ago,
like we were in college and whatever else,
they're talking about League
and they're talking about how they play it
like most nights and they're,
even sometimes they bring the laptop in,
they're playing it there and I'm looking at them going,
I don't know what this is.
What's going on?
I don't get it.
Fucking playing Teemo last night
or whatever fucking, whatever else.
I'm like, I don't know what the fuck this is.
I'm glad, I'm glad.
And I'm glad I never got into it,
because I know that would probably not consume me
because I'm not, I don't know,
I don't feel like I get that absorbed
in some of the things, but yeah.
I just want to see why it's so toxic.
What makes it so toxic?
I think it's just cause people just scream,
like if you're doing bad,
like, you know, get good, kill yourself.
Yeah.
Attitude is like, you know,
people take it so fucking,
make, get so sweaty about it
when ultimately it's just a fucking,
I assume it's just ranked as well.
Like when you get into it, I don't know how deep it goes,
but they've got, you know, like fucking bronze one, two,
three, four.
Yeah, they got, they got ranked modes and all.
Like, you know, you get into that
and fucking you're playing with something.
Ah, you're fucking, you're a shit.
You're fucking, I can't believe you've done that.
You've fucking lost it.
Yeah, I mean, like it would get to you.
The only connection that I've got to it is playing.
Again, it comes to, I suppose,
if you play with your friends,
because it's a team game,
like you can only play with X amount of people.
I don't know how many it is,
if you get it again, I don't fucking know.
But like, if you get on with the people
that you're playing with, you might be all right.
I suppose you would get to a certain point
where like the only thing I can liken it to
is when I used to be quite heavy in rated PVP for wow,
like arenas and rated battlegrounds.
And obviously they had ratings rather than categories.
And yeah, you would get to a point
where sort of you'd hit like 2000 plus rating
and it would be like, you'd get maybe like five or six
rating for a win.
But if you fucking lose,
you're losing about a hundred something rating.
You go, you fucking, cause it's such a,
such a cunt to get it back up.
Cause you can always think, you know,
like we spoke earlier about people's egos and stuff
that if you really push it down to it,
you'd be like, we didn't lose because of me.
And then you go, you go, well, actually,
because you were playing like a dick,
you know, it's a team game.
So ultimately we fucked it because we fucked it not.
You might go, oh yeah, my bad.
I, you know, I fucking-
I think that's the toxicity.
And it isn't, is where you go, you go,
well, I was playing absolutely fine.
You fucked up rather than going,
okay, we've made a mistake here.
You did this wrong.
I could have done this.
We can work on it this way.
But let's figure this out.
But for some reason, when you're fucking,
that's the crazy thing is, is most of the time-
It's like calling Jay bad at Overwatch.
He was terrible at Overwatch though.
He was really bad.
And at Space Marine 2.
Pokemon.
And bad at Pokemon.
He was bad at Space Marine 2 and all.
And he won't listen to this.
He won't have a fucking clue.
Roman will tell him about it.
But he gave it the absolute big one from Wigan
with Overwatch 2 saying that, oh, he's fucking sick
and bloody, bloody, bloody, blah.
Shit.
Yeah.
Fucking useless.
He let me down on Space Marine 2 when I joined him.
I was useless on that.
I know, even for the, what, one or two games
that I played with you boys.
I sat at the back doing fuck all.
Doing nothing, sniping, sniping, sniping, sniping.
He was playing the Vanguard class
and the one with the grapple claw.
And he kept going down and I was like, what are you doing?
Who, me?
Him, like he kept going down.
No, I was playing the grapple class.
This was the time before you joined us.
It was just me and him.
I don't know if we had a random or a bot.
He was like, yeah, yeah, I was doing really well.
And I was like, what difficult are we on?
And it's like normal.
He's like, kept going down.
I'm like, what's going on?
He's struggling.
What's going on, you little baby boy?
Yeah, I remember him saying that he was fucking,
he was, he was shit hot.
That's what I mean.
If you keep, if you get people that say they're good
and then they're not very good
and you think that you're better than them
and you go, well, you're a bit shit
and they get defensive and whatever.
And it just carries on.
Like we can do it all in good humor and go, yeah, Jay,
you're fucking useless.
Bit shit.
Absolutely useless.
And he'd go, right, yeah, great, thanks.
I wonder if I can fucking ring him with your answer.
Uh, his mates coming around, he's got, um,
uh, his mates coming around with the quest,
uh, the meta quest.
I wonder if he'd answer.
I very, very rarely ring him.
So maybe.
So maybe he might.
I see.
Guest appearance.
Here we go.
It's typical.
He won't fucking answer.
It's like prank call.
You know them memes where he's like.
He is also, what time is it?
What's that, big boss?
No, he's not.
He's not.
What's happening, boss?
What's happening?
You're all right.
There he is.
Yeah, I'm just on meta quest.
I'm doing someone's hair, boss.
Yeah, no, that's, no, no, that's fine.
This ain't going to fucking take us that long, man.
It's sweet.
I'm on the podcast.
So I'm recording you for a minute.
All right.
Yeah.
Maybe you'll actually listen to this episode
if you can be bothered.
So some support.
We're just talking about how Waf you were at Overwatch 2.
All right, brilliant.
No, listen, right?
Overwatch 2, that was a problem
because I played with OMSIS
and you go on PC, no OMSIS, you miss everything.
I couldn't even jump with Lucio.
So I don't know.
Yeah, but that just sounds like an excuse to me.
So who's this?
Ask him about Space Marine.
Space Marine 2 as well.
That was a problem there.
Space Marine, no, no way.
No shot.
No, no.
Pokemon, that's another issue.
No, well, I'll tell you what the real issue now is.
My client is waiting for me on meta quest barbershop.
Yeah.
In the middle of his hair cut.
And now I don't know where to start.
You're cutting someone's hair on meta quest.
As you're sure he's in the position
to give recommendations about haircuts.
He's got some eyebrow cut, isn't he?
All right, well.
He's spinning around in his chair and everything.
Yeah?
All right, fair enough.
Okay, well, maybe that's something
that you'd be decent at then.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
It might be my main thing.
All right.
But I am actually decent.
I don't want everyone to think I'm not good.
Yeah, no, I don't believe that at all.
We've just been talking about you
for the last maybe like five, 10 minutes.
Wow, so the plug's actually gonna be good.
All right.
No, shit, it's episode.
Got a client, yeah?
Yeah, all right, well, I'll let you go, mate.
I'll speak to you later.
Thank you, mate.
I've got a job on.
All right.
Everyone's out the weekend.
We'll need to get the haircut done.
All right, mate, no worries.
All right, all right.
Bye-bye then.
Bye-bye.
Ha ha ha.
Maybe he will listen.
Maybe he'll listen.
32 minutes in.
About 30-odd minutes is where he fucking,
is where I'll remind him.
What episode is this gonna be
that he's gonna fucking,
that he's not gonna listen to?
What is this, 106 or seven?
Something like that, I think.
Fucking, are we not that,
no, you're further than that.
Oh, is it?
Oh, no, that's the patrons.
One, two, three.
Welcome to episode one, two, three.
I think it's like, yeah,
I think it's like 107 on the patron episodes.
Patron.com forward slash what's the button.
Shameful, it's not.
It's that way.
So yeah, that's a crack.
That's Jay.
He added me today on Marvel Rivals.
So I'll probably play one game of him
and go, yeah, no, you're sweet.
Yeah, he won't ever play it.
But I don't think they've got the,
because to be, in his defense,
it does seem stupid that you're gonna enable cross play
on Overwatch 2, and then the people
that are playing on console get their aim assist
taken away from them when they join a lobby
that involves PC players,
because that is such a massive disadvantage.
100%.
And then you with the movement on PC,
like I said this morning when we was in the yard,
I'm doing about fucking 1080 worth of spins
before he's even done 180 himself.
Yeah.
It's very, very much not fair.
Fucking rookie.
Because I never realized how,
because I-
The difference still.
I far prefer shooting on mouse and keyboard.
It feels weird because I said it to someone,
who did I say it to?
It might be off the back of when we did, across Christmas,
Alicia got a Switch, and we got the Switch dock,
and we were playing little games on that.
And then obviously with my parents and her dad and brother
and her mom and whatever, and different people,
and my brother.
And obviously everyone's digging me out
because they're going, oh yeah, he's just too good,
and fucking whatever.
It's like, no, it's just I've been playing video games
for a little while.
And I know how to use a fucking-
Yeah, yeah.
A fucking Switch.
I'm not a fucking boomer.
Yeah.
I know what I'm doing.
Yeah, pretty much.
And then it was like, I said to her,
it was like, it's weird going from
originally being a console gamer,
obviously with a controller,
then you migrate to PC and you're using mouse and keyboard.
And how much, your aiming gets so much better on a mouse,
but then your movement's fucking weird on the PC
with a keyboard compared to smooth movement
with the driving games.
Try doing a fucking driving-
I'll fuck doing driving game on a-
Driving game on a fucking WASD.
It's a fucking- Fucking no chance.
It's grim.
It's because you haven't got the motion of it
with an analog stick.
You can feel it way better.
And then occasionally going back to playing
games on Switch or I got the dock for the Steam Deck
and I haven't really played it yet,
but obviously picked up a new controller to have too,
so that we could potentially play more games
and being like, it's going to be weird going back
in that weird middle ground.
Yeah, to a controller.
Yeah, because I don't play a lot of controller stuff.
Yeah, because I know that when Steph was asking me
the other week-
Even using the Steam Deck to me is a bit-
It's weird, yeah, it feels weird.
Because that's the only main gripe I've ever got
about the Steam Deck is I find it a little bit too big,
because it's almost like, even though,
even though it doesn't really make a lot of sense,
I just feel like where you're holding it,
the joystick needs to be a little bit closer into the edges
for your thumb, because I find my thumb is overstretching.
Or if you try and use the back triggers
and your thumbs at the same time,
it feels like your hand stretching far more.
I find that the, I don't like the new PlayStation controllers.
Do you not? No.
I don't really like the PlayStation controllers in general.
No? I find that, especially the newer ones,
I find them too small.
Oh, see, I quite like them.
Because I find where I put my, when I'm gripping,
I find that I put the middle of the pad
in that section of my thumb, rather than that point
when I'm moving around.
Yeah, I do the same thing.
You do it on the ball of your thumb.
Yeah, rather than anything.
And I can't do it any other way, which then fucks me up
when I'm trying to do stuff a lot of the time.
Yeah, see, I've been-
But then I was Xbox, which I find that having
that position- You've got a different layout.
And that one lower works so much better to me
that having them together, scrunched together.
Yeah, see, I've always been Sony.
I've always been PlayStation.
So that's so ingrained to me that playing
on an Xbox controller feels fucking horrible.
I hate it.
Cause I go, why the fuck is one up here
and one's down there that don't work?
You're not coming around to mine then.
Everyone's like, it's the best way to play on a controller.
For me, it ain't, I don't like it.
But it's the same with WoW, where everyone uses
a shitload of key binds for everything
and bladdy, bladdy, blah.
I'm still fucking WASD and fucking Q and E to strafe.
And then, yeah, one, two, three, four,
and then fucking click the rest.
Cause you've got a funny mouse, haven't you, as well?
Yeah, but I don't- A special multi-button mouse.
Yeah, but I don't use it.
So I've got- Exactly the same.
The Naga Trinity, I've got one,
but obviously it's got the interchangeable side plating
for it and you've got one where it's,
one where it's nine buttons in a ring
and then another one where they're all in a fucking row.
And I think it goes up to like 12 or 16
or something like that.
And I've tried using both of them, don't like it.
The one that I have literally has two side buttons on it,
which I incorporate now into WoW by using key binds
because it's there and it makes life easier.
But it's like loads of people who have worked,
whenever I see screen grabs of other people's UIs and stuff
where they will have like big portions of their keyboards
are bound to different abilities and shit like that.
And I go, I can't fathom that.
I wouldn't be able to keep track of it.
I can't do it.
But it's like when like I say, a lot of people,
WASD is the main movement,
Q and E are your strafing left and right.
A hell of a lot of people will bind Q and E,
so your strafes and S, which is your back pedaling,
two abilities.
So all your movement is W, A and D.
So you can rotate left and right and move forward.
And that's it.
Because what, and then what they do is
they completely devoid that.
And if you hold in both mouse buttons, it moves you.
And then obviously you can move the mouse
and then that will move your character.
But that's what most people do
because it frees up this hand
to then use all your key binds.
Which I have tried before in the past
and it felt so horrendously grim
because you've got to remember that's a decade more,
over a decade's worth of me playing WASD, QE
and then the numbers on the keyboard.
So to then try and change that.
Because someone else is saying it's gonna make you,
it's gonna make you play better.
And you go, I already play good.
I'm already good doing what I'm doing.
Yeah, but you're good at that little bit more.
You could be even better.
I'm already sitting near the top.
I don't need it.
That's fine.
Don't need to worry about that.
Fuck that.
Like from a DPS point,
because obviously from healing you use an add-on anyway,
so it's all fucking mouse clicks.
And there's a whole different ball game.
But from DPS,
because I'm playing a fucking simple class anyway,
I'm already fucking in terms of meters up there.
We don't need to worry about doing any of that.
You know what I mean?
So I just can't fucking.
But when I first started playing shooting games and stuff
on PC, it does just feel.
It feels better.
The only bit that prevents me from doing it all the time
is because I've got a laptop and not a PC.
So my laptop can run pretty much everything.
But in terms of running stuff,
the beauty of console is console's designed
to run the games that are fucking made for it.
You ain't got to fuck around with any settings
other than like fidelity or performance.
So you buy a game,
you expect it to run at its optimum fucking settings,
full stop.
There's no adjusting there.
Where is it?
60 or 30 FPS.
Where is it?
We have a PC.
There's all these different things
that you can adjust and everything,
which is great.
What was there was a game I couldn't, I ended up.
What was that one, Atomic Heart?
I played that on this.
And it was all interesting.
I couldn't play it because I couldn't adjust the FOV.
It made me feel ill.
Yeah, very annoying.
It made me feel really ill.
I know exactly what you mean.
Exactly what you mean.
So I just went, no, I'm done.
And I think that's the reason why I stopped playing it
because I was really enjoying it
and I got about two thirds of the way through
and just never finished it.
And I think that's why,
but also the fact that where I'm playing on a laptop,
it's not the smallest screen in the world,
it's also nowhere near the biggest screen in the world.
It's a nice screen.
It's not that much, I'd say what?
It's not tiny, but at the same time,
the ease of just spinning the chair around
and picking up a controller
and then there's a big old fucking telly there
and I can just lean back and do it like that.
What did mine lot say?
New Year's, we played Marry a Party Jamboree.
On the Switch and they played that a lot
when we went to Ireland.
But when we were in Ireland,
we played it on a projector, just on a wall.
And you can imagine when we played that during the day,
when it was still light out,
obviously it was Ireland, so it was fucking great.
But it was still difficult to see
and especially for some of the little activities.
But then as it got into,
we stayed up till fucking four o'clock in the morning
and it's like, as it is now, it's fucking dark
that you could actually see everything.
And they were saying it was when we put it on the TV,
they're like, I'm glad we can fucking see stuff this time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've got one of those projectors
that we've always toyed with the idea
of doing something like that.
It is good if you got the right setup for it.
But I was, I think waiting to move house,
get our own place.
Oh God, here we go.
And then this was when, this was when a couple weeks ago
when Steph was like, do you reckon you'll get a PC?
Because right now the reason I chose laptop
is because it needs to move around a lot.
The laptop gets used for the podcast on a weekly basis.
The laptop stays in one position for the rest of the week.
However, when I do need to move, I can,
rather than having the big fucking rig set up
that I can't move.
Obviously you can move a PC,
but it's an upheaval to do it consistently on a weekly basis.
So that's why I went for laptop.
It's one of those ones again where we've lived the same,
or we live the same life.
Because when, what was it, B?
10 years ago, 11 years ago, I went,
that was when I made my change from being a console gamer,
the heavily Xbox, but with a dabble in PlayStation.
And then I got a gaming laptop.
Because I went, okay, I can do my coursework stuff on it.
Yeah, yeah.
But I can also game.
Play games, yeah.
So as sort of said, we get our own place
and then we've got the room where nothing's fucking,
where we're beholden as to whether
something moves around or not.
Then yeah, when I've got the space to facilitate it,
I will get a PC.
Obviously that will be a big cost.
Like Owens fucking PC, two and a half grand.
Still crashes when he tries to play Rivals though.
So that's fucking great.
It's Rivals, not the PC.
Like, yeah, all right, mate.
Right, no worries.
That's literally why just before we moved
in that half year before I moved,
that I basically just went, right, I'm making a new PC.
Because I can't afford it afterwards.
Yeah, see, that's what I'm worried about
because I've only got about a month.
Yeah, no, you got ages, don't worry.
The boat's fucking sailed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When this one falls through,
I've got another year of fucking waiting.
So yeah, I feel like when I get a proper PC setup,
that will be when I start buying shit for PC as opposed to,
because right now if a AAA comes out
and I want to play it, if it's on everything,
I'm going to get it on console.
Whereas if I've got a rig that I know
will be able to run it decent,
because that's the confliction is you go, right,
you take cyberpunk, for example.
It will play cyberpunk fine.
But if I want it to look absolutely stunning,
not going to do it.
You have to play about.
There's going to be a little bit of an issue there.
Whereas I could just play it on the PS5
where it did look absolutely fantastic.
And I haven't got to do anything there.
Yeah, that is the one major downside.
Is it's always evolving, always.
As soon as you put something in it, it's outdated.
Something new is coming out and unless you can,
that's the whole reason I had to get a new one
is because mine's not even, one's like six years old,
seven years old, maybe a little bit older.
Maybe it's eight years.
I can't really remember it.
But the motherboard's out of date.
Can't put a new graphics card in it.
Nice, you have to change the motherboard
so you can change the graphics card.
Yeah, so going from I had a 1080,
still solid bit of kit, still powerful now.
But wanted to get a little bit more out of it
and play more and more new games coming out
on better settings.
Go, yeah, you can't do that.
You can't move up to the next one.
What's this?
This has a...
It's annoying how expensive it is.
There is a lot more like, I'd say longevity in it
in some respects, but.
I think this has a 4080 in it, no, 4060.
Oh, baby.
I think.
Oh, baby.
It says it on the system.
I can't remember what mine's got.
Performance, here we go.
It has...
Not gonna tell me.
Here we go.
11th gen Intel i7.
Really, you're not gonna tell me?
Oh no, sorry.
It has a 3080.
What have I got?
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080.
4070 Ti.
In mine?
I don't know what any of that means.
I ain't got fucking clue what any of that means.
Oh my God, you've got a 4080 Ti
that's so much better than the fucking 1072 PX.
No idea.
Such a load of bollocks.
I ain't got any clue.
It plays well, fantastic.
It plays Marvel Rivals, fantastic.
I ain't got a fucking clue what any of that means.
It makes me laugh because it's one of those ones
where it's like, you've got such a powerful PC,
but why are you playing fucking Minecraft?
Pretty much.
And you go, it's a peaceful life.
Yeah, because I fucking can.
It's currently 43 degrees and it's outputting 10 watts
of power.
You can overclock it and all that shit.
I ain't got a fucking clue what any of that does.
I ain't got a clue.
People keep talking about updating their graphics drivers.
Right?
I update mine, but everyone's got a different way.
How do you do yours?
I've got a, mine is the auto updater.
So I literally just fucking.
So I've got the control.
I've got the Nvidia control panel.
So I click on that and then, I mean, it won't,
because I've got no internet, but it tells me
if I've got the latest driver installed.
But I know that there's a lot of people that do it manually.
Yeah.
I haven't got the fucking.
I don't understand that because like.
I've got no interest in that.
Cause like I can.
If the wizard can do it, the wizard can do it.
This is what I mean, because I can go on MSI's website
and then look up all the different drivers,
but then I have to, I have to manually download them,
unzip them myself and then do a load.
Is this your elite discord friends?
I've no fucking idea.
They can explain it to me.
Connor will be listening to this
because he listens to all of them.
And he, he will undoubtedly, when I next play with him
and he's listened to this, he will explain to me what it is.
And I'll sit there not listening to any of it
and just go, thank you.
He seems like an intelligent geek.
So he's you, he's you.
Yeah, but I don't know any of that.
No, but you're nerdy in most of all ways.
He's a Warhammer geek and all.
He's nerdy.
We're going to have to fight.
He's nerdy in the same way that you're nerdy.
If I got you two in a room together.
That's going to be.
Set you off with Warhammer, the pair of you
are just going to start fucking bouncing off each other.
Tism.
Oh.
To be able to smell it from under the door.
Yeah, but it's going to go like Highlander, isn't it though?
What do you mean?
There can be only one.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
You'll have to suck him off.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
They're proper nerdy.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, like.
Owen is Steph's mate from, from, from work.
And we've taken him under our wing.
Cause he's a, he's a young and he's 90.
A wee-in.
A proper wee-in.
And.
Zuma.
And he, he, he is nerdy in the same way
that we're all fucking nerdy.
But when you start playing Marvel Rivals
with all of the nerds together,
and then you start getting them on topics of conversation
like League and Warhammer and fucking Age of Civilization
and all this other stuff.
And you go, yeah, you're way nerdy than I am.
Nothing wrong with it at all.
Because it's a wealth of knowledge.
I take it all in.
But I go fucking hell.
Like you, you boys are a proper fucking, you know,
way more shit than I do.
And I thought I was a nerd.
Did I tell you how cringy I felt in the Warhammer?
When I went to play Warhammer 2v2 with my pal.
Oh God, was it like proper fucking measuring tapes out
and all sorts of shit?
So we went in.
I think you'll find it's actually 2.7 centimeters away.
Genuinely.
Was it like?
So we rocked it.
Like we were there.
I rocked in late because I was not originally intending
on going there.
And then when obviously the other two were late,
my pal's usually late, but we all mobbed in
and they'd already sort of started setting up
and I just rocked in because I was like,
okay, I may as well turn up.
And we all seemed nerdy, but relatively normal.
And like fucking, we got the cancer monster there
and fucking whatever else.
And we're all eager there to have a good time.
And we say, right, what are we doing?
Obviously 2v2, we went, should we just have a fucking bust
up?
We all went, yeah, sweet.
We won't do any fucking extra shit.
No objectives, no fucking cards, no fucking whatever.
We'll just do, we can have our army rules,
even though we're playing like two armies
and we can still do command points and whatever else,
but we won't do victory points.
We won't do fucking anything.
And we're just having a good time.
We're just fucking getting into it,
fucking smashing each other, causing chaos or whatever.
And I hear from the table next to me, the fucking,
well, I think you're actually.
Oh my God.
I just glance over and they're the most like fucking
baiter, soy boy looking like,
fucking sweaty, greasy.
Sigma males.
Like grabbing out the fucking laser pointer
and being like, my piece of this can see your piece of that.
Oh my.
I can highlight your virginity from here.
I was like, oh fuck.
Oh no.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
I was like, help.
Some people will take it really fucking serious though.
They spend a lot of money to take it.
And I thought, I know we're nerdy and fucking weird.
And I was like, they're something else.
They're the furry con.
I'm like.
And I don't get why it's so intriguing
because they're not harming anyone.
No.
I mean, they're harmless.
Nerdy nerds are harmless.
They're not doing anything.
They're just really, really, really fucking
in depth with the shit that they're doing.
You call me autistic.
They were proper.
That was something beyond.
Proper there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Bathe in chicken nuggets and ketchup.
Yeah.
Only dinner they'll eat is like Mark.
Proper water.
Potato smileys and fucking chicken nuggets.
English tapas.
Oh yeah.
We had English tapas the other day.
Oh, it was great.
When they came around,
literally just had fucking boxes of fucking Iceland's.
Bargees.
Oh yeah.
That was her parents.
I'm sorry.
Right.
An Indian night one night
and then fucking English cuisine the next.
Yeah.
And what?
Fantastic.
You're just jealous because you weren't invited.
We'll leave it on that high note, shall we?
Yeah.
Go and do the patron.
Yeah.
Right.
That's it.
See you later everyone.
Uru.
Bye.