1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Hello everyone welcome to the what's the buttons podcast. Hello. 10 out of 10 energy from you there. Oh my god. 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:22,600 What the what is the fucking. It's only 10 to 10. It feels so old. I'm so tired. Yeah. I'm like, 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:32,600 oh, that enough. What a long week it's been. However, we're back. Apologies for missing last week's episode. 4 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:42,600 We had a for the very first time a technical issue with the one of our cables not working. So we've gone and bought loads. 5 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,600 So it doesn't happen again. Are you all right? You good? Yeah. I have a red. No, Steph has a red cable. 6 00:00:48,600 --> 00:01:01,600 I have a yellow cable. Very cool and snazzy. What we what we've been doing for the last half hour or actually the last half hour. 7 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:07,600 We've been outside staring at the fucking moon because it's bright as fuck. Casting shadows. 8 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:20,600 It's really weird. But before that we were playing a new game that had come out. That has come out. 9 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:30,600 It's terrible. Pokemon trading card game. Pocket is the actual name of it. 10 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Pokemon Pocket sounds way fucking bad. And everyone at work is on it, particularly my pal Roman, who's ADHD to fuck. 11 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:50,600 So has just spent an obscene amount of money. It must be over 100 quid. Has to be. 12 00:01:50,600 --> 00:02:03,600 And the premise of Pokemon Pocket is literally just the Pokemon game, the card game. And you open packs and stuff like that. 13 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:12,600 And obviously you can buy packs and that's pretty much it. And it seems to have taken the absolute fucking world by storm. 14 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Like most things. Number one in the charts. Number one in the charts. It is from last week. This was four days ago. 15 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:29,600 So these statistics would have gone up. Pokemon Pocket is earning over three million dollars per day. Jesus. 16 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:39,600 With 12 million plus banked to date. So that was four days ago. The revenue is mostly coming from high spending players in Japan. 17 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:52,600 App Magic estimates estimates sorry, suggest 43 percent of the 49 million dollar total earned by the Pokemon company to date has come from players in Japan. 18 00:02:52,600 --> 00:03:01,600 That's around 21 million dollars from this app from for this app alone has come from Japan. Fair play. It's big, isn't it? 19 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Huge, absolutely ginormous. Pokemon as an IP is fucking mental. And then when you you then. 20 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Is it pay to win potentially? Potentially because there's still an RNG basis to it. 21 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Still a chance. You're pulling you're pulling packs. It's just I suppose it's no different to the to the real world where if you could only afford a couple of packs a week, 22 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,600 but then someone else can come in and just buy a booster box after booster box. 23 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:39,600 The chances are that person's going to get more cards and land the heavier ones than you are. 24 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,600 So I guess maybe it is a pay to win strategy. 25 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,600 But I know that the meta decks are changing quite a lot. 26 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:55,600 So obviously you can make your own decks and there's ones that are absolutely obliterating. 27 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:05,600 So the the one that was really pissing Roman off and then he went to the dark side and actually started using the deck himself was the Mewtwo deck. 28 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:16,600 And I think there's a Charizard deck. I think the latest one is like the deck built around Pikachu is OP as fuck to the point where Roman was banging his head against the wall 29 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,600 because every time he was playing PvP, he was playing against someone else that we use in the fucking Mewtwo deck. 30 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:29,600 And he could not beat it. And that's why he was like, right, well, I'm going to fucking join them then I'm going to do the same. 31 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:36,600 And I've sort of stayed away from it because I'm not massively interested in it. 32 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:49,600 I like watching it from a side, sidelines. But like I was saying to Roman, if I was going to pump money into it, I'd rather pump that into real cards than on a digital platform. 33 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Yeah, and we've just sat and played it for a little bit. 34 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:02,600 And I can see why people enjoy it and why people are all over it. 35 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:10,600 But if I have to click one more fucking thing and get a paragraph of text pop up telling me what to do 36 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,600 and then scroll through 10 different pages of text to fucking just open up the shop and look at something. 37 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,600 And then when I go back, there's something else. 38 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:26,600 And if it stops me doing anything and highlights one more fucking thing and forces me to press on it to do something I don't want to do, fuck me. 39 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Yeah, I felt the same. I think we're both too tired. I mean, I'm struggling to hold this microphone. 40 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,600 It feels so heavy. But yeah, no, I felt the same. 41 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:43,600 Like, so I hadn't downloaded it yet. And I thought, right, well, if we're going to talk about it, I'll at least have like a little bit of a hands on. 42 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Yeah. And yeah, I've never been one that I get it. 43 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,600 I get you want they want to set you up to, you know, know what you're doing. 44 00:05:52,600 --> 00:06:01,600 But force tutorials really pissed me off because I just don't have the, you know, like even just down to and it's such a little moment really. 45 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,600 But some of it was like pressing hold. Some of it was tap. Some of it was drag. 46 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,600 And I was like, how can you be telling me so much what to do? 47 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,600 But I also don't know which one I'm supposed to do. 48 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,600 The amount of time I was tapping it, I was like, oh, no, it's a drag. 49 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:24,600 Yeah. But I did have I kind of I kind of like it when when games like this do kind of give you quite a lot sort of get you going. 50 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:33,600 Like, so it's it's established that you're going to get for free the chance to open two packs per day. 51 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,600 They regenerate in 12 hours. And then you've got your one that picks on top of that. 52 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Yeah, which was like five per hour. And then but then it kind of gives you loads of stuff. 53 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:53,600 So you can try out like speeding up and you can collect these hourglass things that allow you, you know, it's like each hourglass is an hour and they give you 12 and that kind of thing. 54 00:06:53,600 --> 00:07:01,600 So and then already, like I've probably got enough to open another like 10 packs because I ended up like 100 hours. 55 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,600 So that like I kind of like. And then, yeah, I went through the little tutorial thing. 56 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:12,600 The first bit is mandatory and then it kind of says like, OK, if you want to know more, you can go to the intermediate. 57 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,600 If you don't, then like have at it. And it wasn't as painful as it. 58 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Like when I looked, it was like seven steps. But then actually, they were probably like 30 seconds apiece, which is really not that bad. 59 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Yeah. I think we're both just in like arsey moods. 60 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:38,600 And then, yeah, I did give PVP a go, but it annoyed me because I did a couple of the like AI ones and it was constantly making me go second. 61 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,600 And I beat them twice and then did a PVP one, went second. 62 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:50,600 And yeah, it's my fault really, because I didn't read the card, the last card I picked, which kind of sealed my fate. 63 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Was whatever his name is and he didn't it doesn't damage them, it just knocks their next attack down by 20. 64 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,600 But they had like 80 and I was on 60. So they killed me anyway. 65 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:08,600 And I was like, oh, never mind. But I can see. Yeah, like I get the whether it's my cup of tea, I'm not so sure. 66 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:19,600 But it's quite promising. It's quite cool. I can see, like you say, like it's a bit like you when you're playing that showdown thing and you were like massively into it for that little period of time. 67 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:30,600 And I think you did put a lot of money on that as well. When when Jay was because Jay was playing Pokemon Pocket at work before anyone else was. 68 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:37,600 And I said, Roman fucking moth to a flame. Is he playing or is he collecting? 69 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Fucking both. He's got last time I checked, I think he had there was only 20 cards he needed to get of all of them. He's only been fucking playing it for less than a week. Absolutely ridiculous. 70 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:57,600 It's impressive, but fucking you ask his wallet, how impressive is it? 71 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:08,600 And Jay, Jay's like a natural sweat when it comes to that kind of stuff. He loves it. 72 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:16,600 But he'll he is like a chess player. He'll work out by the maths, whether he's going to fucking win or not. 73 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,600 It will get to a certain point and he would have calculated in his head. 74 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:28,600 You'll go, I'm not going to win this or go with this person does this. Eventually, I'm going to I'm going to win this because it's all done by hit points and the moves and blah, blah, blah. 75 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,600 So there's been a couple of games where he's been like sat in the van playing and he's like conceded because he's like, I'm going to lose. 76 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,600 There's no point. I can't bothered. 77 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Whereas what was funny is when you when you do the AI battles, you can set it to auto play. 78 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Yeah. So you just fucking let it do what it wants to do. Well, when Roman first started playing, that's all he did. 79 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,600 He just did the AI battles and just let it auto play. 80 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:02,600 And then when he started doing the PvP battles, he had no idea how to play because he was just letting the fucking AI take over and do it all. 81 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:17,600 And it's just I think it's it's one of them where you can you can be quite innocent and play something like Pokemon and just enjoy it for its artwork and the nostalgia field of it. 82 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:31,600 But I don't think it takes much to get involved and then join the more higher up, hardcore people that take that shit a bit more seriously. 83 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Roman's one of them people at the moment. Like he fucking just all over it. 84 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Put it this way, though, in those like that six step tutorial, I feel like I understand how to play Pokemon more than I ever have done in my life. 85 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so that's what that does. 86 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:56,600 That is how you play it. Makes sense. Because obviously they had the they had the trading card game app anyway. 87 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Yeah, because you couldn't play on it, though. You could just collect the cards. 88 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,600 I swear you could play. I swear you could play on it. Do you not still have it on your phone? 89 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,600 I probably fucking don't. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you could. 90 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,600 You could still play on it. No, I've only got the pocket one. 91 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Yeah, I just got rid of it. But yeah, because you would scan the QR codes on the on the card thing. 92 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Well, I've got an account and then you'd get you get the packs on that and you could definitely build decks in it and all that sort of shit. 93 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,600 So that leads to me me to believe that you could play other players with it as well. 94 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,600 I don't know. I don't know. Wake up. Come with me. 95 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,600 I'm looking at you. You know, when you look at a baby and you get them to go to sleep, so you just gently close your eyes and close it. 96 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,600 That's what you're doing to me. Your eyes are like you're looking at me half lidded. 97 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Eyes are open. You want to lick a battery? I've got one here. 98 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,600 She's so tired. Oh, my God. Whoo. 99 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:11,600 So that's that. I don't know. There's not much more I can give on it. I don't really give a fuck. 100 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Pokemon. People enjoy it. It'll be dead in a month. 101 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaking of games that are dead, I haven't seen your new world. And if you say on the Internet, you're talking about your fucking ass. 102 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:28,600 What's happened? What's happened there? Where's everyone gone? Why is no one playing it? 103 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,600 I don't actually know. I genuinely don't know. What's your reasons for not playing it? 104 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,600 World of Warcraft. No, I don't buy it. I promise you. No, I don't buy it. I promise you. 105 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:45,600 I was in turmoil with making an old made a few of them, started leveling them up. 106 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,600 And now I really like playing a tank and I've never played a tank before. 107 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,600 And then a lot of the people that were playing New World have gone up. 108 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,600 The guild itself has gone into hibernation because we're done until the next season. 109 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,600 A whole message went out and everything. What for? Well, for wow, we're in hibernation. 110 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,600 I think what the fucking I'll read the message out for you. 111 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:18,600 It says, says, Hi, all you wonderful fucking emojis is in that. 112 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,600 If I think it was just taking the piss. We had one without the emojis and then one with the emojis. 113 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Said, Hi, all you wonderful people, little ghouls and goblins. 114 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,600 As you can probably guess, this raid here has come to its natural end. 115 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:37,600 This is horrible to read all these emojis because of this, the guild will be going into hibernation mode with no organized raids each week. 116 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Enjoy having your Wednesday and Sunday evenings back. 117 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,600 And we look forward to raiding with you all next rate here. 118 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:50,600 So that message went out to just finalize that now it's happening. 119 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:57,600 And naturally, that coincided with Call of Duty coming out. 120 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,600 So a lot of people are now fucking playing that a lot of people are playing classic instead. 121 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:08,600 And everyone's just sort of gone. Oh, and. 122 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,600 That's kind of it, really. Everyone's just in a little new world. 123 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,600 This could make a discord for New World. Yeah. 124 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,600 Has that gone dead? No, no, I was really talking to anybody. 125 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:32,600 It was a very young thing. And yeah, yeah, that standard standard fucking me really just World of Warcraft fun because I'm playing something that I've never ever played before. 126 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,600 I'm playing a tank and it's very anxiety driving because you're both burping so much. 127 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:44,600 I don't know because you're in charge of it because I'm scared, tired and scared. 128 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,600 And then obviously I bought tell you I was that noise chair. 129 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,600 I think I bought telltales as well. The Walking Dead. 130 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,600 I've seen that in your hand. I've been fucking busy. 131 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:04,600 I know. I know. But that that I want to get through because I really like the story so far. 132 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,600 And let's talk about that for a little bit. 133 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:24,600 It's I wanted something simple and easy for the Steam Deck and telltale games are one of those where it's very much like Detroit become human. 134 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,600 I don't know what the genre of it is. I know. 135 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Yeah, it's not. Is it is telltale the genre? No, telltale is the company. It's fucking hell. 136 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,600 I really don't know what it's like. Google Detroit. 137 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,600 I'm going to really annoy me. Yeah, because the same as life is strange. 138 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,600 It's like decision based, isn't it? Decision based storytelling kind of thing. 139 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Interactive story or something like that. Life is strange. 140 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:06,600 Where does it tell you what fucking category that would be? Life is strange genre. 141 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Interactive film life is strange is an award winning episodic adventure game. 142 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Yeah, similar there. 143 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:25,600 Interactive story and decision. Yeah, you basically you make decisions that determine the outcome of your particular game. 144 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,600 Detroit life is strange. Telltale games. They are all that similar thing. 145 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,600 Yeah, yeah. Even like well, yeah, yeah. Kind of like elements of Baldur's Gate kind of thing. 146 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:43,600 You're like you are that character. The decisions you make have consequences that are either immediate or you find out later on. 147 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,600 And that's basically what it is. I wanted something like that. 148 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:57,600 And the The Walking Dead series has really, really good reviews across the entire games. 149 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:11,600 So I figured, well, I'll look into that and then managed to pick that up off of I think I got that off of G2A for I think it was 10 quid for all of it. 150 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:20,600 So, yes, I started playing that and it was just not it was just nice because obviously I haven't touched the Steam Deck for a long time. 151 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,600 And I was like, well, I don't want to get it on the on the laptop. I can't be asked to sit there and play on the big screen. 152 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,600 It's nice to just have something that's that's a bit smaller. 153 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:35,600 And I was like that that's the perfect chilled out game to be able to do that and get invested in the story without having to do that much. 154 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:47,600 Because I I like the idea of having something that's portable, but at the same time, I can't enjoy myself like laying down on a bed and then playing fucking Assassin's Creed in your hands. 155 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Because I like to be fucking like that to the telly. I want to see big screen. Yeah. 156 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:03,600 So that's something that I'm fucking slowly slogging through. 157 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Yeah. I mean, it's like it was nice when like I was reading my book and then you were playing. 158 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,600 That was quite fun. And then I fell asleep read my book. 159 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:30,600 I tell you what, I tell you what's terrible is you have to go back through all of the episodes that we that you and I have done and me and Ash have done talking about the PlayStation portal. 160 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,600 And where we were slagging off saying, what's the fucking point? 161 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Because now that I've matured a little bit, I'm starting to see why people have them. 162 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,600 What the ability to play a PS5 game in your hands in bed? 163 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that all stemmed from when I was on nights for a week and Dean had one. 164 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,600 And so his PlayStation was on at home. 165 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can. 166 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,600 So weird. That's basically the Wii U. 167 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,600 But you can. But you're able to put the place that leave the PlayStation in rest mode and it will turn on. 168 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Then you can put it back into rest mode when you're done from the fucking thing. 169 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,600 And he was playing The Last of Us. 170 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,600 And I said to him, I said, how the fuck are you playing that? 171 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,600 And he was like, it's just connected to my phone. 172 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,600 And it was playing really well, really well. 173 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,600 And was his phone the screen? 174 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,600 No, no, no, no, no, it was. 175 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,600 It was it was hotspotted to his phone for a connection. 176 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 And it was playing absolutely fine. 177 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Daryl's got one now. 178 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Mark's one turns up next week. 179 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,600 I thought you already had it. 180 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,600 Mark's one was a preorder, wasn't it, for the anniversary edition. 181 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,600 So it hadn't released yet. 182 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,600 OK. But I think they're like 200 quid or something like that. 183 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600 And I was talking to Daryl about it the other day. 184 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,600 I was like, how how is it? 185 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 And he was like, yeah, they're they're decent. 186 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:01,600 They are good. He was saying exactly what I fucking said in that he gets up. 187 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,600 And if he fancies fucking playing a bit of PlayStation, we don't want to get our bed. 188 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,600 It's there. He's fucking flick on. 189 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,600 And it's good to go. 190 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600 And I asked him, I said, how's the battery life on it? 191 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,600 And he said, it's not it's not great. 192 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600 But he said, it ain't bad at all. 193 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:21,600 I think he was saying sort of like four or five hours you can get on it, which is of a decent fucking thing. 194 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:27,600 He was like he was saying it's it's good because it's if you're already playing on a PlayStation, it's no different. 195 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 It's just the controllers fucking split in two. 196 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,600 But it's the same controller that you're used to playing with. 197 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,600 He said the screen's very good as well. 198 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:48,600 And yeah, it's it is somewhat tempting because obviously the other day when you were playing Fortnite or whenever you're playing on the Switch. 199 00:20:48,600 --> 00:21:01,600 It's sort of like, well, if you then have the option there, which is exactly what they were marketing for, which is crazy because the amount I've sat here and slagged it off thinking, why the fuck would anyone need that? 200 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,600 What is the point? 201 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Just just fucking turn your telly on and use your PlayStation. 202 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Well, now here we are where I'm like and even Mark said he was like, I'll leave the PlayStation upstairs and fucking sit downstairs with Taylor and just play on it there. 203 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:21,600 And that is a not to not to well, you know, everyone knows I'm about to bring up Nintendo. 204 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,600 But the predominant advert I remember for the Wii U is little kids playing his game. 205 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,600 And like I think the dad comes in and he goes like, sorry, mate, you know, I want to watch the football. 206 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,600 And the kid just walks up, picks up the game pad. 207 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,600 It pops up on the screen. 208 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,600 So the dad's now using the telly to watch the football and the kids carrying on playing his game in his hands. 209 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:50,600 And yet it was just that was such a big flop for probably that exact reason, because you're thinking, what the fuck do you need that for? 210 00:21:50,600 --> 00:22:03,600 But actually, it's one of those ones, like you say, it's only when it kind of settles in and becomes a sort of more widely accepted idea that people start to see the benefit of it. 211 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:12,600 And it's like, sometimes you do have to try something to work. Either you go, actually, I'm never going to use this or you go, holy fucking I don't know how I lived out without it. 212 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Because then I started looking at that other games where you can you can now play them portable or just like basically wherever you want to go within reason. 213 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Things like New World, you could fucking play that on the portal, dependent on. 214 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Anything that's downloaded on your PlayStation, as long as you've got a connection, it's anything. 215 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,600 It's literally your PlayStation. 216 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,600 It's whether that would be like that be all right with like really small screen. 217 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Don't know. But then you've got things like the division, which is fucking bought that again the other day. 218 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Anything on your PlayStation where. 219 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Or even disc games. 220 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Yeah, I believe so. Because it's on if it's there. 221 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Because obviously it's not it's not downloaded to the portal. 222 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:20,600 No, you're basically streaming it from casting it from the PlayStation to the portal, which is why you need a stable connection to be able to do it. 223 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:27,600 And yeah, it just seems. More and more useful. 224 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:35,600 I'll be interested to get Mark's point of view on it because he's going through a stage now where he's playing his PlayStation quite a lot. 225 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:46,600 So it'll be good to hear his side of it because I know Darrell plays plays his PlayStation a fair bit, but not as much as Mark does. 226 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:53,600 And yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to like you say with those games where would it be suitable for a smaller screen? 227 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,600 You think you're playing something competitive like Call of Duty. 228 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Is that going to be too small because the screen's not fucking tiny? 229 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,600 I suppose you've been a different to can you play Fortnite on your Switch when it's on? 230 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:16,600 That's literally what I was about to say. So when it first came out, I played it handheld, like when Fortnite first was released. 231 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,600 I played handheld on the Switch and I don't know why I didn't play it on the telly. 232 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600 I can't remember. Just did. Just happened to, I think. 233 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,600 And so that's kind of like what I knew. 234 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,600 And then this time around playing it, I've mainly played it on the telly. 235 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:38,600 But there has been a handful of times when I've either like sat in with Lou or just had it in my hands and played it. 236 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,600 And yeah, it's it's a different experience, but it's not like you can kind of get used to it. 237 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:52,600 One for two reasons. One, because, you know, like when it's on the telly and you've got, you know, you're trying to hit someone in front of you. 238 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,600 That person might be, I don't know, five centimeters big or they're a little bit closer. 239 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:07,600 They're 10 centimeters big. Well, obviously on the on such a small screen, they're then a centimeter big if they're, you know, in the distance or at most maybe three centimeters big. 240 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,600 But the other thing I find quite interesting to get used to is like having your hands be that far apart. 241 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Yeah. The difference between holding the controller and then holding like again with the Switch. 242 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:28,600 If I've played it two ways, one, holding it as a switch to having it in tabletop mode. So I've still got a controller connected to it. 243 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:39,600 But the screen is in front of me like a little mini telly. Yeah, that's probably easier because it's what you're more used to in terms of aiming and like just positioning and stuff. 244 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Because obviously the like the map buttons are selected and start on whatever or in slightly different places. 245 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,600 But again, it's you get used to it. You get it's for it is played. It does feel different though. 246 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,600 I've noticed that with the Steam Deck where the where it's such a wide console. 247 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Your your hands are in a normal position for a controller, but the thumbs feel off. 248 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,600 Weird. Yeah. Your thumbs and your trigger fingers, they feel almost stretched out. Yeah. 249 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:17,600 So like for the but which is really which is really weird when you think about it because when you're holding a controller, 250 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,600 your left hand's on the left side of the controller and your right hand's on the right side of the controller. 251 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,600 So your thumbs on the joysticks are not overlapping each other. They're on the fucking joysticks. 252 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,600 So I think it's just your positioning of your arms as well, isn't it? 253 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Yeah, it might be that might be the thing that makes it feel weird is that that feels one way far more natural. 254 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,600 But that yeah, that doesn't my thumbs haven't fucking changed position. 255 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:53,600 But having your elbow, your elbow feels odd. 256 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:59,600 It was like when the certainly when I suppose was a novelty aspect of our comfort aspect. 257 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Most of the time when I was playing the Switch when it first was released, I would literally be like on like under the covers. 258 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,600 And then you just have like your hands like where it's comfy and you wouldn't have to worry about holding like especially when the heating was not. 259 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,600 It's great because you still be it wouldn't affect it. 260 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:26,600 But yeah, and then especially with some games where they are like completely because obviously again, 261 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,600 they were like utilizing the concept of the joycons. 262 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600 They would almost be like quite. Oh, yeah, it's nice. 263 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:40,600 I could have that tomorrow. Yeah, no, it's not. Let's not go there. 264 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,600 I've got my hands on. But anyway, yeah, it's all under the covers. 265 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Yeah, but why was I saying that? Oh, right. Yeah, like how they had like kind of different uses. 266 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 No, it's actually gone. I'm talking about my ass now. 267 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,600 I remember you're very good at distracting me. You know that. Sorry, I thought you were absolutely lethal. 268 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:07,600 I only showed you the portal. Yeah, but then earlier when you just go, I'm talking. 269 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600 And you're like, why have you lost what you're saying? 270 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Because if we were talking now, you go, oh, I can't help it. 271 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Sometimes it just fucking comes out. Yeah, I'm just being me. 272 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,600 And now it's gone. So you have to think something else now. 273 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:34,600 We've got a big we've got a dead air. So. 274 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Get the price. This is why people edit. 275 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Isn't it? Oh, we pride ourselves on never editing our podcast. 276 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,600 The fact that I've shown you that portal is just absolutely killed. 277 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Yeah, but you have seen it before. 278 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600 We've seen it. We've like you said, we've spoken about it so many times. 279 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,600 I know exactly what it looked like. I think what that is is you wanted to get up the Amazon listing to run it by. 280 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:12,600 No, no, no, no. No. What that is is aftershock from trying to get a PS5 and how much of a cunt it was to then looking at a portal. 281 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600 And it's just there. Remember that? 282 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,600 I remember that ordeal trying to fucking secure one of them. 283 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,600 What a bastard. And you had one in your basket and it crashed. 284 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Well, you bought one of them, canceled it. 285 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,600 What a fucking has got to be one of the most stupidest things I've ever done. 286 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,600 That has to be up there. And you were with me when I did that. 287 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,600 So you were a party to that. Well, yeah, but we went on a walk and I said, I might cancel it. 288 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,600 And you did nothing to prevent that. Yeah. But then at that time you were hardly playing PlayStation. 289 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Yeah. And ultimately at that time as well, what was there like two PS5 games? 290 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Yeah. Everything else was still PS4. Yeah. You should have done better. 291 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Really stopping that from happening. Don't give a fuck. 292 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600 How about that? But that's the minute I did it. 293 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,600 Am I going to feel the same about canceling the Assassin's Creed Shadows pre-order? 294 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Have you done that? Yeah, I've done that. I've done that. Yeah. No, I had to email them. 295 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,600 We got in just like them piped, mate. We're going to be thinking about. 296 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,600 I had to I had to email them. I'm sick again. 297 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,600 I had to email them specifically to request that they cancel that order 298 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,600 because you can't do it through their website anymore for some reason. 299 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600 I think they've been taken over by someone else. 300 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,600 And the person that was the person that was replying to me, she was like 301 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,600 she she basically copied and pasted my email back to me and and said, 302 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,600 essentially, are you sure? I was like, yes, I'm sure. 303 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,600 And then she was like, you need to confirm the order number again so that we're positive. 304 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,600 This is what you want to do in this. And you want to cancel your order. 305 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,600 So I did that. And they just sent me another email. 306 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,600 And she was like, are you sure you want to cancel your order? Yes. 307 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,600 Yes. It's like the full female in the Fred now cancel the order. 308 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,600 And then there was like three other emails after that confirming that I had canceled the order. 309 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:15,600 But what scares me is that obviously with game, they don't take the money until the preorder fucking ships. 310 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:21,600 I swear to God, if fucking two hundred and something quid leaves that account 311 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,600 because she ain't fucking cancel that order properly, just double check. 312 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600 You know, what do you mean? Email again? 313 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Just say, can I just confirm that this is not talking to her again? 314 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Do you remember? Oh, no, you went to give her. 315 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,600 When when the switch came out, there was this really cool like carry case thing. 316 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,600 And you know, I think it was Zavi. 317 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,600 We're selling it. And so I bought it like a real fucking loads of loads of stuff. 318 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,600 Yes, you do. Because obviously they're coming out with fucking everything. It's great. 319 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600 And anyway, they kept me on the hook. I think it was six months. 320 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,600 And they finally. So six months for a case. 321 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Yeah, because I was really wanted it. I really wanted it. 322 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600 And in the end, I found a different one that I actually like better. 323 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:15,600 So it was fine. But so I preordered it maybe in like the February and it should have released in the March. 324 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600 And it didn't. And then it was like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. 325 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,600 And finally, in the October, they were like, OK, yeah, we don't have it. 326 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600 But like all this time. Well, yeah. 327 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600 What do you mean? We're like it's on its way. 328 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,600 We're just we're waiting. But it was all that was stringing you along for like six months. 329 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant you were waiting for it to release. 330 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,600 I was genuinely like, oh, my God, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. 331 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,600 It was like still orderable. I could have bought another one. 332 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,600 And yet it went on and on and on. And then finally, yeah, they were just like, all right, never mind. 333 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Because they wouldn't like cancel it. They just get nuts. 334 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,600 It went on for ever. How the fuck they're still going. 335 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600 I think they're one of the ones that's like they're covering up for it. 336 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,600 So yeah. Did you see the thing? Do you remember Vivo? 337 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,600 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 338 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Did you see that post the other day? 339 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Basically, someone was like, what the fuck happened to that? 340 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,600 Like everyone, all the big artists had Vivo in their names and like it was a full on site. 341 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,600 Like it was basically a screenshot of Vivo from like 2007. Yeah, I remember. 342 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600 And then basically writing and stuff, wasn't it? 343 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,600 I don't know. I think it was still red. 344 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,600 But and then basically it was. 345 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600 I was thinking of Vimeo. Oh, that's green. 346 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600 I think that's still going. That's just a hosting website, I think. 347 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600 But I do know Vivo. Yeah. 348 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,600 And it was like Warner Brothers, SMG. 349 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,600 Like it was like the four big music labels. 350 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,600 I've got an idea. And like make it this video website. 351 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:57,600 And then, yeah, basically, obviously it never I would deliberately go and like not watch it or like go click on YouTube. 352 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Do you remember boycotting it for like no reason at all? 353 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,600 No, I don't remember doing that. 354 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Do you know? Oh, I do. But yeah, it's just like. 355 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:15,600 But you get you get things like that where where I remember Mike Shinoda was trying to promote another social media platform. 356 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,600 It was like it was like Triangle or something like that. 357 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600 So I can't remember what random shit it was. 358 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,600 It was really odd. And I remember downloading it. 359 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:31,600 And it was like a like a culmination of Facebook meets Twitter meets Instagram. 360 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Like it was it was a really weird format and like followed Mike Shinoda. 361 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,600 And then there's all these other celebrities. 362 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,600 And he promised you can speak to me directly. 363 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600 It's going to be like the best thing ever. 364 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,600 And it was like quick like you want to get involved on this before it really blows up. 365 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,600 And then you can say like I was on this before everyone else. 366 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600 No, Joe, I won't download threads. 367 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,600 I won't download threads. I refuse. 368 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,600 When you scroll through Instagram, then it comes up with things from Fred's. 369 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600 It sounds so once you follow you on threads. 370 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,600 No, yeah, not happening. No. 371 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,600 And they try and get you. They'll be like we do tagline. 372 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600 I won't finish it. And they click it. 373 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,600 It goes, you need to download threads. 374 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Most of your friends are on threads. Everyone's going to join them. 375 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,600 It's just you. I'm not joining. Fuck all. 376 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600 No, I'm not joining it. You ain't having it. 377 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,600 And what's more ironic is the fact that I'm not joining it for the fact that I'm not going to use it. 378 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,600 I have another one. 379 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600 I can't have another fucking social media. 380 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,600 I don't use Twitter anyway, so I don't need another version of Twitter. 381 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:42,600 But it wasn't like when threads first come out and in the fine print, you basically like gave them access to absolutely everything. 382 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 And it was like you couldn't delete your account after you've done it. 383 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,600 Because it would delete your Instagram as well. 384 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,600 Yeah. And everyone was like, I'm not doing that. 385 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Everything that we fucking download does that already. 386 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,600 So that's not even something that's worth worrying about. 387 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,600 They're not going to get my information. Fucking fuck Meta. 388 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,600 They've already got it. 389 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Yeah, it's too late. 390 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,600 They've already got it. 391 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600 You signed that away when you were 12 years old and you made your Facebook. 392 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:12,600 Yeah. It's like when fucking Mary from fucking wherever, 64 years old, puts a picture, puts a fucking copied and pasted picture. 393 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,600 I rebuke. 394 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Yeah. On a story on Facebook. 395 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Meta cannot have my photos. 396 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,600 This is me officially saying you don't have my permission. 397 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600 You've posted it on their platform, you dumb fuck. 398 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,600 What do you mean? 399 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,600 You already accepted that you've had to accept the terms and conditions to post that there to say you don't accept them. 400 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Yeah. You've already done that. 401 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,600 And then it'll be like random people that you haven't spoken to for ages and then they'll be fucking copying and pasting. 402 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,600 You're fucking one of them and all. 403 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,600 The who? Oh, George Harrison. 404 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600 I'm trying to find that thing because I can't remember. 405 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,600 I think it was true. 406 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:56,600 And it was basically like, I just need my other hand, someone apparently they died in Disneyland. 407 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:03,600 And because it was something like they'd subscribed to fucking hell. 408 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600 Jesus Christ. 409 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,600 Are you good? 410 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600 No, because I'm trying to do it quickly. 411 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,600 It's getting worse. 412 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,600 One second. 413 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,600 Disneyland. 414 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,600 Yeah. 415 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,600 Disney. 416 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,600 Yeah. 417 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Let's see if it was. 418 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,600 Yeah, they have. 419 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,600 They've dropped the defense. 420 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:43,600 So basically, someone had died at Disneyland due to, I think, an allergy and they tried to get out of it because he'd basically or rather she she was the one who died in somewhere in the terms and conditions of when you sign up to Disney Plus. 421 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:51,600 It's basically a waiver and they were like, we're not going to pay out for her death because she's signed this this waiver. 422 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,600 Saying what? 423 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Right. 424 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,600 Hang on. 425 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,600 So they've got it. 426 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,600 It's not our fault. 427 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,600 So they have dropped it. 428 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Basically, they've dropped a controversial legal claim that the terms and conditions that a widow agreed to when signing up for Disney Plus, the streaming service that they protect from a wrongful death lawsuit that he brought over his wife's death when she ate at a resort restaurant. 429 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,600 But they have decided to drop the matter. 430 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:25,600 Basically, the lawyers also judge in Florida to dismiss the wrongful death lawsuit and settle any disputes out of court. 431 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:44,600 They argued that the widow had agreed to Disney's terms of use, which state that users agree to settle any disputes with the company out of court via arbitration when he signed up for a one month free trial of Disney Plus in 2019 and again in 2023 when he purchased the Disney theme park tickets using his Disney Plus account. 432 00:38:44,600 --> 00:39:01,600 They were like, no, you've agreed to settle it out. So like that's what it was basically like that you can't take us to court for killing your wife because in 2019 when you got a free trial, you agreed somewhere in the terms and conditions that you'd settle any disputes with Disney. 433 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:15,600 So because we've got Disney Plus, if we ever have legal beef with Disney, we have we've signed a waiver because I've got Disney Plus saying that we personally won't take Disney to court. 434 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:22,600 We'll settle it outside of court because I who puts that in their terms and conditions for a streaming service. 435 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:33,600 So that's basically what what happened. His wife, it confirmed by the medical examiner died was a result of suffering allergic reaction. 436 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,600 Cause of death anaphylaxis due to elevated dairy levels of dairy and not. 437 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:46,600 And basically, they were done in a resort restaurant, he and his wife both questioned the waiter multiple times. 438 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:53,600 And they were like, I don't know if I've ever had a severe allergy and the waiter assured them that the order would be allergen free. 439 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,600 And obviously it wasn't. That's fucking scary in it. If I had a mega allergy, I'd be fucking terrified to go outside. 440 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:13,600 I was like, remember the one and it was like when people they've got like a thing against people ordering, you know, like obviously how milk like dairy alternatives are getting way more popular. 441 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,600 And then when someone comes in and they'll ask for an oat milk, they'll like put a shot of milk, like cow milk in it. 442 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,600 It's like that's fucking fucking kill someone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So bad. 443 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:31,600 Where people are like, oh, back in my day, we weren't allergic to things. And if you were, you just ate loads of it to get over it. 444 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,600 No, that's not how anaphylaxis works. That's not how it works. 445 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:44,600 Nana said shit like that. I feel allergic to sweet corn. Just eat loads of it. What do you mean? On the on one of the Facebook groups, 446 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,600 it was like a picture of a black and white picture of a little kid in a car. 447 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:54,600 It was like back in my day, we didn't have seat belts. We did all right. 448 00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:00,600 And everyone's like, yeah, mate, it's all gone wrong. And then people like, I'm not being funny. 449 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:09,600 Not only were there dramatically less cars on the road, which makes it even worse, but the death rate of driving was significantly higher. 450 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,600 It is now. So actually, no, you didn't do all right. You just fucking died. You're in a car accident. It was good. 451 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,600 But it's exactly you go. Yeah, you did all right. You survived. So that's why you're here. 452 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,600 Loads of other people. I left my baby outside the butcher shop for three hours and no one took him. 453 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,600 All right. OK. But did he grow up to be a fully formed human or does he have a lot of issues? 454 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,600 We didn't bother with fucking vaccines or anything like that. We just got the mumps. 455 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:43,600 That's why no one has polio anymore, because you none of you bothered. Is that why? No. I quite like an iron lung, actually. Yeah. 456 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,600 Yeah. Fucking hell. It's nuts, isn't it? 457 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:56,600 Oh, my day. We had them smartphones. We used to just fucking beat each other up. 458 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,600 Lost contact with my mate. That was it. No texting him. Just never saw him again. Didn't do me no harm. 459 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,600 It's just fucking. It's so weird, isn't it? 460 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,600 It's what they call it. It's kind of like I suppose survivor bias in a way, isn't it? 461 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Like you're just because I'm alive, therefore it was great. Yeah. 462 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:21,600 Yeah. The kids used to play outside all the time and not sit indoors on their fucking playstations. 463 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:31,600 Yeah. Let me go outside where all the cars are driving 60 mile an hour, where you defunded all the parks and there's fuck all in them and then just stand there in the mud. 464 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Yeah. Staring at stuff. But at least my teacher can't, you know, slap me or make me clap chalk. Yeah. 465 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,600 But I can spell. It's just so weird, isn't it? Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. 466 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,600 Kids just fucking sit on their phones all day and the fucking tablets and all that. 467 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,600 But half of us gaming. Yeah. Leave us alone. Yeah. 468 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,600 I mean, fucking it's infuriating, isn't it? Absolutely infuriating. 469 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,600 You know, no, what absolutely terrifies me is that in 50 years time, it's going to be us. 470 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,600 It will be us because I look at teenagers now. I go, what the fuck is that? Yeah, it's weird. 471 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600 What are you wearing? And why are you talking like that? Yeah. 472 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,600 Weirdo. Yeah. As long as I can. 473 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,600 Absolute tangent on this one, this is the first like 15 minutes of this with gaming. 474 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,600 If you're still listening, I don't know, well done up until about I'd say about eight minutes ago. 475 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600 My prediction. Yeah. If you're still here, it's around 35. 476 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,600 We then fair play. It's all right. We'll be we'll be fucking off soon anyway. 477 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,600 As long as I'll be able to put my head on that pillow every night and close my eyes 478 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,600 and have a have a nice sleep and wake up and continue. 479 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:48,600 As long as I don't become the type of person that buys real butter and puts it in the fridge. 480 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,600 You know, them squares of butter, not I'm not talking about early, but early fucking anchor, whatever. 481 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,600 I'm talking like country fucking country file. 482 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,600 What's the fucking country life? That's not about either country life, isn't it? 483 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,600 Country life's margarine as well, I think. Well, no, it is quite hard. It's butter. 484 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:15,600 Country life, country life. I think they do both, don't they? Country life is butter. 485 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,600 If I have a look here, butter clover isn't butter. 486 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,600 Anchors, but anchor is not butter. 487 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,600 Anchor is not butter. 488 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,600 Is what anchor isn't butter? 489 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,600 Yes, anchor is a brand of butter. Oh, maybe clover isn't butter. 490 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,600 Sorry, clover isn't butter. Anchor is butter. Clover isn't butter. Sorry. Clover. 491 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,600 No, clover is margarine. Clover is a soft spread that resembles butter, but is not butter. 492 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,600 So fucking soft spread. My favorite. 493 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Sorry. Yeah. Anchor is butter. Country life butter. Country life is is is but is it? 494 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600 Country life is butter or is country life spread? 495 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:01,600 Well, it says country life spreadable. Yeah, no, it's not butter then. Country life original salted spreadable. 496 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,600 Yeah. No, butter with vegetable oil. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a spread. 497 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,600 Well, it just says butter with vegetable oil. So that is butter with vegetable oil. 498 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600 They just called it a salty spreadable. That's that's a legal avoidance. 499 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,600 I mean, it says butter in the fucking ingredients. What do they call cheese slices now? 500 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,600 Like yellow slices. Yellow slices. I think it is yellow. Let's have some burgers. 501 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,600 You got any yellow slices? Any of them? Hey, corned beef. 502 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:39,600 But I swear they're even less like like, you know, back in the day when they were cheese slices, I do remember them being cheesier than they are now. 503 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:46,600 Well, you had it now. It's fucking plastic. Well, you had it with the bacon. No, the fucking cheese strings the other day. 504 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Cheese strings have gone fucking well. Downhill, downhill. The noodles in pot noodles downhill. 505 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,600 Cheese strings downhill. Even baby bells are suffering. 506 00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:14,600 They are. They are. They're a victim. 507 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,600 In this whole in this whole saga, they've taken a hit. 508 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,600 I'm telling you now, fuck knows how they're doing. I say not well, not well. Never mind. 509 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,600 They're really part of it. Where's the laughing cow gone? 510 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,600 I ain't seen many of that knocking about. You know, the little triangles are laughing cow. Yeah. 511 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,600 Yeah. No. Last time I had a Dairily triangle, it was not good. 512 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:47,600 It was not good. No, you know what I think is the great fucking scourge of what the Dairily franchise was bringing in Dairily light. 513 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,600 That was the gateway to it being fucking shit. What is Dairily light? 514 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,600 It's supposed to be like less fat Dairily, but it's basically like very much. 515 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,600 I hate low fat mozzarella because it's not it's not mozzarella. 516 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,600 It's literally just bouncy fucking taste. Bouncy shit. Yeah, it's awful. 517 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:15,600 And Dairily light follows the same. I don't know if I was looking particularly porky one day, but all of a sudden my mum got started buying only Dairily light and it doesn't taste the same. 518 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,600 The texture is not the same. It's awful. And I love a laughing cow. 519 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,600 Yeah, they did. They are the triangle ones. Yeah. 520 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,600 But then Dairily triangles. I used to eat Dairily. Maybe that's why she was about to say. 521 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,600 I wonder why she bought light. I used to eat 16 triangles. No, I didn't. 522 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,600 But yeah, I did used to consume a significant amount of triangles. 523 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:42,600 Got posh one day, started having it with grapes. Or the Dairily straws. 524 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,600 What jumbo tubes? No, no, no, no, no, no, like the cheese strings. 525 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,600 But they were the strip cheese. You know, it was squares. One of them pulled off in quarters. 526 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:56,600 Yeah, 12, 12 individual. There were six on each side. Of course. 527 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,600 Oh, here's another good one as well. I keep making that loud noise. Sorry. 528 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600 It's because you're holding the mic right next to your fucking mouth. 529 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,600 Like you're a news reporter. It doesn't need to be there. Just hold it. 530 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,600 No, you know, it is just a tannoy. You have to hold the tannoy here. Well, you're not at work. 531 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,600 No, I know. Look at the noise on there. Sorry, everybody. 532 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Cathedral City toasties. And it was like six little bits of cheese and six little tiny pieces of toast. 533 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,600 Did you have them? No, but I remember them. Yeah. 534 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,600 You said that I remember them. Yeah. So good. So fucking nice. 535 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,600 Yeah, we just used to be fucking Dairily dunker types. 536 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,600 Oh, no, I never had. I'm talking as an adult. You'd have that fucking depressing thing where 537 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,600 it would just be standard tubes, not jumbo tubes. Oh, what? Breadsticks. Breadsticks. 538 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,600 Did you agree as well? The cheese was different. Yeah. The breadstick cheese is really runny. 539 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:56,600 Yes, yes, yes, it was. We get an horrible one where you'd open up and there'd be that fucking thick line of water over the cheese. 540 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,600 You go, oh, fuck it. Do you remember when they came up with the nacho ones? Grim. 541 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:06,600 Do you remember this was the fucking the best? It's the night of all the food that's discontinued. 542 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,600 This is the end of this soon because we're just going off on one. 543 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,600 The show, I've probably walked about on here before about it, the hot dog Dairily one. 544 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,600 And you got no, no one remembers the fucking hot dog Dairily. 545 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,600 It was hot dog. And then you got Capri Sun and you got two little pieces of dime. 546 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,600 And it was little hot dogs and you had cheese and you had sauce and they're fucking incredible. 547 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:35,600 Honestly, if I could bring anything back, I'd forego Mars planets for the Dairily hot dogs. Mars planets. 548 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,600 Yeah. Or do you remember Mars Delight? You don't remember Mars planets? No, I remember them. Mars planets weren't good. 549 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,600 They were. No. Mars Delight. Mars Delight, I remember again. Not that good. 550 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,600 It wasn't that good. I'll tell you what I want back. And this will be the shots. No, this will be a clip shot. 551 00:49:52,600 --> 00:50:01,600 So this will be the what is this episode? This will be the final moment. Echoes. No. 552 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:08,600 It's the biscuit base I couldn't get on with. We don't have the buttery biscuit base. 553 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:23,600 See you later, everyone. Uro. Uro.