1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Oh, I'll start it then. Oh, I thought you were just talking to yourself. Staring into 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,200 the fucking distance. Oh, go on then. What's happened here? Oh, no. No. Never mind. My 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,880 headset's caught. You alright? Most people would start again, but we just carry on. And 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,000 I love that about us. There's absolutely no need for it. I don't see the point. Yeah, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,560 I'm alright. I mean, we just had this conversation, but we'll have it again. Pretend we're just 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:33,840 having it for the first time. I'm good. It's a wasp. I know. As I said, once people start 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:40,200 again, we just crack up. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you want to just fucking jump straight into 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,960 the new year and gritty of new world? You go. A turn. You go. I've seen you playing 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,800 it and I don't need to talk. I'll just bounce off whatever it is you're saying. Well, you're 10 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,200 the expert on this. I'm a newbie. No, you bet. How many hours have you put into it? 11 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Oh, not that many. I'm only level 20. Yeah, I'm only level six. Yeah, I know, but you've 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,680 played it for a bit and I will answer questions and talk about it, but you're the MMO expert. 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,240 You're the one that actually has feelings towards this stuff. I'm just a reactive person. 14 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:14,040 No, based off of our last podcast, you have fucking feelings for this one. I played about 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,120 half an hour of it yesterday before I had to go to work and that was not enough time 16 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,720 to gauge an interest. I did smile. I smiled. I've got space between two as well. I've been 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:30,160 playing that. I figured because the way wow's going, I've got a keystone master and we're 18 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,360 going to get ahead of the curve hopefully this week. So once I've done that, those are 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,920 the two things I'm really interested in. Anything other than that, I can just fucking take a 20 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:46,640 backseat and I figured running a gaming podcast, I feel myself slipping into the just playing 21 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,840 wow all the time and we did that before where for a month solid, I was just playing that 22 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,720 and I had nothing to talk about. So I thought, well, there's these fucking good games that 23 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,120 are coming about. And then obviously Space Marine 2, I was humming and hiring about it 24 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 and I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to buy it because Connor and Jay at 25 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:10,760 work are both playing it and obviously you're playing it and I think has Darryl got it? 26 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Yeah. He's got it. He's got it. He buys it, plays it once and then doesn't play again. 27 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,240 So I thought, fuck it. Let me get something because I want something to just sit back 28 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:26,320 on and what a fantastic game. Again, I'm like halfway through the campaign, delving into 29 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,400 the lore, fucking smashing the shit out of people. It's good fun. I played co-op with 30 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Connor and Jay the other day and I played a class with like a grapple gun. Marauder, 31 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,720 is it? Vanguard. Vanguard. That's the one. What a fucking fun class that is. Just fucking 32 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,520 grapple into people and smack their heads together. It was a lot better pre-nerf but 33 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,640 anyway. So much fun. So been playing that and then obviously with New World coming out, 34 00:02:54,640 --> 00:03:03,120 it was Irish Connor that was chatting to me after our podcast and sort of said like, if 35 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,400 you're fucking want to play New World, let me know because obviously he's got 400 hours 36 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:13,520 in it before the expansion. So when it first come out and he said he really, really liked 37 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:20,160 it but no one from the guild was really interested in playing it. So and when it first come out, 38 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,200 I wasn't, I was intrigued but at the same time I'm playing well. I was like, I'm not 39 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,140 going to pick up another MMO on PC when I'm already in the fucking grips of this one. 40 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:37,200 So then it coming out on console, I've read a million different reviews and fucking feedback 41 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,400 and really, really looked into it. And the consensus was that it feels really, really 42 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:48,240 good on console on controller. And that's kind of what you want from an MMO that's being 43 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,880 ported over because I always find it difficult when you have a PC origin MMO bring it over 44 00:03:53,880 --> 00:04:01,040 to console. There's a lot of shit on those UIs that just doesn't fucking work. Prime 45 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,360 example that did it really well. I know it's not an MMO but Baldur's Gate on controller 46 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,800 for that setup is fantastic. And it has no right being as good as it actually is, but 47 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,400 it is really good. The best. However, Elder Scrolls Online, I much prefer it on PC than 48 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:24,880 I do on console because it just feels finicky on console and to navigate the menus and everything, 49 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:31,240 it just feels way better on PC. So I was like, well, I'm worried about a feeling like that. 50 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,920 However, New World is fully cross play with everything. We have Xbox, we have PlayStation, 51 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,800 we have PC, it's all fucking cross play, which is something that ESO doesn't have. Combat 52 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:46,280 style was very similar to ESO. So rather than your traditional tab target and blah, blah, 53 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:54,160 blah, you have two weapons that you or two, yeah, two weapons that you can equip or archetypes. 54 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,680 And I think that's what they're called. I think it's just weapons, just weapons. We'll 55 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:04,880 go with just weapons. And with that, you get three abilities for each. So if you're using 56 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,000 a sword and a shield, you can get three abilities. You swap around to a fucking hatchet, you 57 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,840 got three abilities for that. But it takes that stance of Final Fantasy where you're 58 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,040 able to use every single weapon and level up every single weapon respectively. And that 59 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,440 is essentially your class. You create a character and you pick a class. So like soldier, oculist 60 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:32,000 and archer, whatever, but they're not, they're just what you're starting as. So you can pick 61 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,520 up any weapons that you want and then level up through them. And then what I also like 62 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,640 about that is you level up two weapons passively. So whatever two weapons you've got equipped, 63 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,520 if you're fucking using the sword and shield, but you've got a bow equipped, it'll also 64 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,040 level up the bow whilst you're going along. So you're never that far behind the curve 65 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:59,880 with other abilities, other weapons. And yeah, I got to play it a decent chunk today, maybe 66 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:07,000 like maybe like two hours to sort of understand a little bit more of what's going on. I love 67 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:14,880 it. Very fun. It's very, very fun. It's what I wanted from ESO on console. Combat feels 68 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:24,320 really, really cool. The ability to swap between weapons feels really good. The difference 69 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:31,400 in like the tanking abilities and the DPS abilities and the healing abilities and the 70 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,160 hatchet, for example. So at the moment, my person who I made as a soldier starts with 71 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,800 a sword and shield and a hatchet delve into the fucking skill points of the hatchet. And 72 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,800 you've got berserker or you've got, I don't know what it's called, but it's all throwing 73 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:53,240 axe stuff. So you go from, I can either spec into being two fucking hatchets melee up in 74 00:06:53,240 --> 00:07:00,560 your face or ranged. And I like that as a nice little flare. Now I've got the fucking 75 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:08,000 great hammer, which you can have as a tank or as a DPS and the tank stuff is all AOE 76 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:15,040 and it's very new, new and intriguing. But at the same time, I know exactly what it's 77 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:22,680 about. It feels like a mixture of Elder Scrolls Online and enshrouded in the skill system 78 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,280 with flavors of Final Fantasy and then flavors of other MMOs. At the moment, it feels really 79 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:35,040 fucking fun. I'll say really good. Good. Feels good. That's what I wanted to hear. It feels 80 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,480 like there was a geyser playing a flute in front of me. I danced for him. That was good 81 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:47,640 fun. Happened to me yesterday. It's great. It's, it's, it's at the moment, very, very 82 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:54,920 simple, very fun, very vibrant, very pretty and, and very simple. And I love the fact 83 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,760 that you're not missing out on a load of shit by starting now. This game's been out for 84 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:07,160 two years. You're not, it's not like if you jump into WoW now or Destiny or ESO or Final 85 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,860 Fantasy and you have fucking no idea what's going on. This starts with a turn them, which 86 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:18,440 is their expansion, but that is the way they've made it. That is the start of the game. So 87 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,120 I don't know what the fuck happened when it first come out up until now. I haven't got 88 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,920 a clue. All I know is if you buy it and you play it now, you're starting from fucking 89 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,520 day one essentially, which is really good if you're looking to jump into new world. 90 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:40,200 It's great. I see it as like, I feel like this is day one of the MMO personally. Yeah. 91 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,360 Because I think, well it is no, yeah, I know. But I mean like, obviously a lot of the critiques 92 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,640 that I've seen from new world, cause I've done a lot of research as you know, as we 93 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:56,000 discussed and I continue to do that. The biggest critique I ever saw from new world was everyone 94 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,920 loved the game. Everyone said, Oh, I've got a thousand hours. I've got 500 hours, blah, 95 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,000 blah, blah. But then it petered off at end game. Cause there's nothing to do. Yeah. But 96 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,440 I hope that the reason that is, is because they put all their resources into getting 97 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,120 it onto console rather than putting it into end game. Cause now they've put it in console. 98 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,920 They've got three massive, the three biggest platforms. Uh, and the pool of players is 99 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,440 obviously tripled in size, all playing with each other. Now they can look towards the 100 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,640 future because now it's on everything. Now that's when they'll really start putting 101 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,240 that out. And obviously the roadmap they said are gonna, they're gonna announce after launch. 102 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,320 So that should be coming any day. So that's very exciting. But yeah, right now I feel 103 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,560 like this is the, this is the day one of it because now it's open to everybody. Um, and 104 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,720 yeah, it's sad for the PC players and probably burnt ourselves out cause they had nothing 105 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,960 to do for so long, but hopefully they'll, uh, 106 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,480 I don't know though, cause I think it'll be a resurgence. I know there's, there's, I've 107 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,840 been catching whispers of people sat like getting a bit annoyed almost like the, the 108 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:07,320 PC players were beta testers for the last, however long, um, for console. It's a, it's 109 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,920 a direction or it's very difficult to break into the MMO space and then start stealing 110 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:20,060 spotlight. Um, very, very, it not very easy, but easier to achieve that when you are able 111 00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:25,280 to do it on PC and console and then make them cross play. ESO doesn't have the cross play, 112 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,560 but it has the console capability. So if you don't have a PC and you've got a PlayStation 113 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:33,400 or you've got an Xbox, whatever you can play it on that. So you're not missing out on that 114 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:39,440 respect, but if your pals play on PC, then yeah, you, you can't play with them. So to 115 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:46,880 have an MMO that is relatively simple to pick up and have it accessible for everyone. And 116 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,720 then everyone can play with everyone just like space Marine. Oh, and that you can, you 117 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,160 can play a geyser on Xbox and a geyser on PC all at the same time and, and in game voice 118 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,640 and all of that kind of stuff, which, which is shit that I love because it bridges the 119 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:09,360 gap of, of that console war PC master race bollocks. It's just, everyone's able to fucking 120 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,200 play with everyone. It's funny that we always have Fortnite to thank for that for cross 121 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,600 play. Fuck them. I don't give Fortnite any credit for anything. If it weren't for Fortnite, 122 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,640 cross play wouldn't exist. No, it definitely would. It would just exist for someone else 123 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:27,360 first. They're fucking no way they get their flowers from me. Um, but yeah, I think, uh, 124 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,840 I think this is going to open up a lot of potential for them. And I, it's obviously 125 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,360 add a resurgence on Steve for numbers. Uh, I dunno, it's obviously going to go down, 126 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:43,720 but it went up though. I saw it at like 50,000 or so. Um, it's hard to tell what the console 127 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,360 player base is, but you'd imagine that was big. So you combine the steam numbers with 128 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:55,040 the PlayStation numbers with the Xbox numbers, it should be doing pretty fucking well. And 129 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,240 obviously with more numbers, that means more money going into the game, more money being 130 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,240 spent on the game, which means they're going to be hopefully pummeling money into it. And 131 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,800 we all know that Amazon have a lot of money. I was going to say the one thing they don't 132 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,760 need to worry about is fucking money. If they can get a little cash cow going, they're going 133 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,960 to, they're going to do it. And they, and I'll, I'll be more than happy for them to 134 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:24,320 pummel money into it. Um, right now I currently have, um, definitely two other players, possibly 135 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:32,800 four, um, two geysers from work. We've got it and they are currently, one's already level 136 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,080 15. He stayed up late last night to try and catch me up for some reason. I didn't even 137 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,040 know he's playing it. And then the other guy has just downloaded it, bought it today and 138 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,880 he is just picking his server as of 10 minutes ago. 139 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,880 What server you on? Taurus. I'm on Kronos. He just automatically put me on. I didn't 140 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,320 even pick one. Um, the servers are locked. You need to go to a setting on there. It's 141 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,400 called block packet, packet something. And you put that to like the highest and it sorts 142 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:05,280 out any like jankiness. That's a big one. It was a bit like, why are you so quiet? I'm 143 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:11,360 not quiet. Not for me. I'm not, I'm very loud in my ears. You're very quiet on this. No, 144 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:18,000 I'm watching. That's something you're supposed to pause for and then, yeah, you're so quiet. 145 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,400 I'll just speak louder. But then I feel like I'm shouting. So then you just fucking turn 146 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:29,960 your headset down. No, but I am actually shouting. Is it? No, that's me. That's you. Isn't it? 147 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:35,360 That's me. Yeah. That's better. I can't hear myself so much. There you go. Brilliant. Um, 148 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,620 yeah, turn whatever that setting is up to max. I think it's just like how much internet 149 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:46,840 your game is using to play. Uh, and that changed that settings. Just a little thing I saw on 150 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,840 a video yesterday. Um, but yeah, I think the big, the big draw for this is obviously console 151 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:59,520 because console MMOs, there's not a lot of, there's final fantasy online, which once again, 152 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,940 I'm not shitting on, but I just don't like the art style of it. I don't like the way 153 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:07,880 shit looks. Just don't like that. You can't fucking get logged in simple. Yeah. That that 154 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:13,360 in itself is fucking annoying. Yeah, that's, that's not ideal, but you're kind of limited. 155 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:19,640 So they're tapping into like a pretty much un mined resource in my opinion. Um, so you're 156 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,680 going to have a lot of people interested in that respect. And the big one, the biggest 157 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,280 one I think for them is like, say it's simple. And I don't mean the game simple. I think 158 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,460 it's pretty deep, but on surface level, when you start and I can compare it straight away 159 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:38,480 to throwing the Liberty, the, as soon as you start throwing Liberty, it's just shit everywhere. 160 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,720 It's just too much on the screen. Like it might be right for someone like you that knows 161 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,080 MMOs very well and can go, right, that's chat. That's fucking that. That's that. That's that. 162 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Whereas me, I'm just like, it's too much going on. I want to remove 90% of this shit, but 163 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,800 I don't know what's, what I should be removing and what should be keeping. Whereas phone, 164 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,840 uh, new world is very light. It's almost like playing a single player game initially because 165 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,000 it's, it teaches you how to do things and much like Final Fantasy, although it does 166 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,720 it a lot fucking quick on Final Fantasy, it slowly teaches you things and then moves on 167 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,360 to something else rather than just going, poof, here's loads of information. Remember 168 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,440 that because you're going to need that. And then poof, here's loads more information. 169 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,320 It slowly teaches you shit. And that's, that's important because that keeps me engaged because 170 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:27,560 now I'm remembering stuff. Um, and yeah, it's just a lot better than any of that shit from 171 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,360 phone and Liberty and Final Fantasy online does it really well, but then they also draw 172 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,720 shit out for too long. It's like, here's how to attack. Now go and attack this geezer for 173 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:41,200 10 rounds in the arena and then move on. And just like, no, I've got that. I've got that 174 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,240 part. You know, when you press the right trick, I've got that. Let's, let's move on now. Um, 175 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,320 I spent a decent chunk just fucking running around, just killing stuff, just aimless killing 176 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,520 stuff because then, cause then at the moment you're, you're able to, um, to respect your 177 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:04,640 weapons for free. So if, if, if you, if you go down the route of say like with the hatchet 178 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,240 and berserker and then you don't like it and you want to go to the frying one, then, then 179 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,800 it's free. You just swap that around. And the, the fact that those weapons only have 180 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,440 free abilities, obviously you've got your, your standard like light attacks with R2 and 181 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,200 then you hold R2 down and you fucking do a heavy attack. You block with L2, blah, blah, 182 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:31,160 blah. Um, but having just free abilities per spec, per weapon makes it so much more easier 183 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,560 to get used to it and to not get overwhelmed by it. And you'd think that that would be 184 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:42,680 quite boring, but I, I spec'd into the, the, the tank portion of the sword and shield, 185 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:49,280 and then I'm the throwing portion of the hatchet. Um, that shit is fucking fantastic. That is 186 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,400 fantastic. A fucking blast free hatchets in someone's head and then just ram them with 187 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,840 a shield and then just start wailing into them. It's so much fun. So much fun. It's 188 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,440 funny cause we picked the same shit. I mean, I've, I've literally just swapped out the 189 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,360 sword and shield for a fucking great hammer. It's like some massive anchor that I got off 190 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:13,920 of some geezer. Um, and that is, that is extremely fun. The only bit that I might add is that 191 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:21,760 the, um, the visuals on some of the abilities are a bit lackluster, um, could do with some, 192 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,400 some more beefing up to, to make it look a little bit more pretty. Like for example, 193 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:31,200 one of the abilities for the great hammer is, um, you, you like slam it down into the 194 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,620 ground and then three rings go out in a line in front of you. And it's like daisies and 195 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:42,920 fucking stunts enemies or whatever sounds cool. Doesn't look cool because you slam it 196 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,680 into the ground and then it is literally like free blurry sort of yellow rings pop up and 197 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,000 go out in front of you. And it's like, you could, you could do more with that, but I 198 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:58,920 appreciate that this is still early on to that, that sort of shit can be tweaked and, 199 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:04,760 and fixed along the way. Yeah. I, um, I just like running around killing shit. It's not 200 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:12,240 good boring and very relaxing to just chop down trees and mine oars and shit. I only 201 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,480 got the acts and the, um, pickaxe yesterday. So I've just been, I made that shit fucking 202 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,720 straight off the bat. I tried. I couldn't work out to do it. I, uh, I had, I had the, 203 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,440 um, what did I have? I had whatever it was initially. I had something initially that 204 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,520 I saw for sickle or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. I think you get that anyway. Cause you have 205 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,960 to make the hunting knife first. Yeah. Yeah. And then I just made everything else alongside 206 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,040 that cause you can just equip it all. Yeah. I didn't know that. So I didn't get out to 207 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,200 level 17. So I've only just started chopping down trees and shit, but, um, yeah, it's just 208 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,720 peaceful man. I feel like it's, it's what I want because I can just put this game on 209 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:56,520 and just fucking get right into it and go and do X, Y, and Z, or I can just put it on 210 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,840 no headphones, just put some music on a real podcast. Just go and chop down trees, mind 211 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,200 some fucking stone. We're in that honeymoon of you don't know what the end game is. I 212 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,720 have no idea. I don't know about dungeons. I know nothing about this game, obviously 213 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,080 for myself. Um, a lot of the stuff that pops up, I'll, I'll be familiar with it. I, it 214 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,360 won't, it won't be a shock how the systems are, but as far as from a research point, 215 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:27,120 I've done nothing into the end game or anything. I just knew that a few of my pals are starting 216 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,200 to fucking buy it. I've already got a pal from the guild that has put 400 hours with 217 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,440 it and, and, and I sort of, I trust his word. If Irish Connor says it's decent, then it's 218 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,960 decent. Um, and 400 hours to me sounds like you've put enough time and effort into it 219 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,560 to know if it's decent. He also played in shrouded around the same time I was playing 220 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:53,520 this. We have the same viewpoint on how that game was. So I, I, I had enough info to know, 221 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,520 yeah, let's, let's spend the 50 quid and then, and then work out how good it really is. And 222 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,960 like I said, at the beginning of the pod, I know from my many years of playing, well, 223 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:08,080 I'm getting to the point where I'm going to take a little backseat whilst the new season 224 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,160 comes and I want something that I can play alongside that. And like you just said, I 225 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:19,080 want something that I can pick up relatively easy and fucking put down without having to 226 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080 worry too much, which is great. 227 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,920 I, I will be no life in this for the foreseeable future until I get to the end and then go, 228 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:34,440 I'll give you two weeks. Yeah. I know everyone has little faith in me. Yeah. Very little 229 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,120 faith because you're very fickle ultimately. No, I'm not fickle. I just can't stick with 230 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:45,880 it. It's just, this will be, we'll do a podcast next week. You'll say that this is the absolute 231 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,840 goat and it's, this is your forever home. And then two weeks after that, there'll be 232 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,640 something else and we won't be talking about fucking new world. I'll probably still be 233 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,900 playing it and fucking chipping away. Nah, you're as fickle as me, bro. No, I'm not. 234 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:08,400 You are apart from well, you're just the same. You are the same. You know you are. If in 235 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:15,320 shrouded was out of early access and was a fully fleshed out game and there was, there 236 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,640 was adding stuff to it continuously. I guarantee me and Connor would still be playing it because 237 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,120 that game had us by the balls. How come you don't listen to any of my recommendations? 238 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:29,400 What do you mean? I, you, you're the reason I bought space Marine too, initially. Why 239 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,560 am I the reason that you bought, I didn't even have it. No, exactly. But you were gassing 240 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,440 it up on it. Everyone's getting it. I'm going to get it. And then you paid it and you really 241 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,120 liked it. And you said, I'm going to get it. I'm definitely going to get it. Hold on. And 242 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,800 then I got it. No, no, no. I said, it was great. And then, no, no, no, I'm talking. 243 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,720 This is bollocks. Then you just said 10 minutes ago, ah, and then cause matey bobbot work 244 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,400 was playing it and someone else was playing it. So I got it. And then new world. Oh, because 245 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,520 the Irish Connor's fucking planet and a couple of lads at work plan. Nothing ever. I say 246 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,920 you just, I'm your podcast host. No, no. Right. Let me, let me clear some things up here. 247 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Right. I'm not going to take advice from you when it comes to MMOs because you're still 248 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,600 a baby. All right. That's not a domain. That's fair enough. Not a domain that we're going 249 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,440 to enter. Now let me quell this fucking little argument. People with the podcast, let me 250 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:22,240 drop some fucking law on you. Right. Me and Ash have known each other for what? Four years, 251 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,600 four and a bit years, something like that. I'm going by the basis of the current career 252 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520 that I'm in and how long I've been doing it. Cause I've known you since day one of doing 253 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:36,800 that career. So it's about four something years. Now Ash was a, was a, wasn't the most 254 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:45,040 welcoming person in the world. Very, very, very scary, but was a gamer. And I was in 255 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,720 an industry where fucking no one was really talking about video games at all until Ash 256 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080 started fucking having a little chat with me about it and was like, Oh, how exciting 257 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,680 is this? That's the friendship buds. Right. One of our first conversations was an argument 258 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,600 because I didn't play God of war. Well, I did play it and then said that it wasn't good 259 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,960 and I, and I stopped and that was, that was God of war 2018. And then what happened? You 260 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,760 berated me, called me a dickhead and then lying, be old. I played it and it was one 261 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,240 of the best games I've ever played in my life. Right. That's that, that's fucking game. Number 262 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:22,080 one that was under your recommendation, right? Game number two days gone. You didn't get 263 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,200 that from me. I've said it. No, I got that from you. No, I said it. And then you said 264 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Mark was playing it or something. Yes. But you stemmed from that as well. Yeah, I might 265 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:37,560 stem from this, but you wait until other people have then, Daisy, Daisy is another one. Fucking 266 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,280 hell. We've got Diablos on there and all. That's another one. Fuck me. The list goes 267 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,360 on. The list goes on. He was playing Diablo and more. I don't know what you want from 268 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:52,600 me. I don't know. It just feels like my recommendations. Not enough. You need it solidified. Yeah, 269 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:58,600 but you're exactly the same. Call it the lamb. Call it the lamb is another one. I take it 270 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:06,440 back. I'm not man enough to admit when I'm wrong. So I'm wrong. It's a fucking tricky 271 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:13,960 situation when you're rolling into games like that that require someone's plan to be dancing. 272 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:20,240 What the fuck is that? We're getting a buff. Someone wants to take you away and play a 273 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,600 new game that requires a lot of time and effort. You've got to do your research and fucking 274 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:31,560 work out what's going on. You're right. I thought that Robin had one leg, but he doesn't. 275 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,920 So yeah, what I want to know is obviously there's going to be loads of us now. So are 276 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,240 we going to make a massive company and take over the map? Well, this is where it's going 277 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,160 to get about fucking skew iffy. This is where we're going to have problems. Oh, here we 278 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:50,000 go. All right. Because I'm on Kronos. You're not on Kronos. You can change that. It's easy 279 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:57,720 apparently. Just change. Well, we need to work it out because Irish Connor's on Kronos. 280 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,920 So you solidified that before you start. Okay. Yeah. See, once again, I'll take it back. 281 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,480 The apology. Why? Because you didn't ask me once what server I was on. No. No, you just 282 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,440 went straight for Connor. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. You can stay over there. I actually made 283 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,040 a character on Kronos and then deleted it and made another character on a different 284 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,600 server and then Connor asked me what one I was on. I forgot and said Kronos. I then deleted 285 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,280 that new character and then remade another character on Kronos because he had gone over 286 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:34,640 there because you also had the factions are locked as well. Yeah. Well, we're going unlike 287 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,800 you. I was waiting to see where we're going yellow. Yeah. Well, I'm not. I'm going marauder. 288 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,600 Oh, we can do that. Then we'll just fucking be fighting each other constantly. I think 289 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,000 that is marauder. Marauder. There's marauder and there's a purple one. I don't know the 290 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,800 names. I just know that yellow, green and purple. I love the colour yellow. That's what 291 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,080 I'm going with. If we can change servers, then we can change servers. Kronos is a low 292 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,040 pop server anyway, because what I don't get is when you pick a server, it's got the ones 293 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,760 with the little yellow. I never picked a server. I literally clicked EU server thing and then 294 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,520 I pressed start and then I was just in and I didn't know what exactly. So don't ever 295 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,220 go at me that I've picked a server without you. You didn't even know you was fucking 296 00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:17,760 picking one. But you have because you've deleted three characters, much like Final Fantasy. 297 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,520 Remember when you got to play Final Fantasy and I got to like level 20, it was like, fuck 298 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,840 this and then delete it and start again. Not knowing that it was going to be a hundred 299 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,640 fucking hours anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did that about four times. Yeah, you did. 300 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Didn't you? I kept changing. Sick of it. Yeah. Fuck that bro. All right. Yeah. We'll make 301 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,760 it work. We can figure it out. I need to know how good the voice chat is though, because 302 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:47,440 all of my time playing today, it's just come up saying VoIP, VoIP unable to connect or 303 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,160 something like that. VoIP offline or some shit. I've just had it contibuted. To be fair, 304 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:57,480 I think my internet is on the fucking fritz at the moment. So yeah, we can, we can figure 305 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,800 all of that out and then worst case scenario, if we can't figure that out, then there's 306 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,000 a villain arc. Yeah. There's a, there's a, there's a battle to be had. I've got a pro 307 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:14,040 gamer on my side. I know your two MMO legends. I've got a pro gamer. Who? No, he'll become, 308 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,040 he'll become known if you want to go down that road. He'll become known. Not me. A pro 309 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:25,320 gamer in what? In fucking everything he does. He knows life's everything. No. So he will, 310 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:31,520 he'll deal with it. I'll take him off his leash and go, go do it. But no, yeah, I keep 311 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,160 seeing that different factions are taking over different parts of the map and keeps 312 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,360 popping up and it's just cool, man. I like all that shit, bro. I think that's very fucking 313 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:44,480 cool. Yeah. I got my mount yesterday, so I'm happy with that. Now I'm bopping about on 314 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,920 that. That makes a big difference. That's a lot of fun. And what I like is that I've 315 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,120 got two mounts obviously cause I bought the silly edition cause I'm a knob. Um, well, 316 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:57,320 I thought it was going to be 60 quid anyway, so I was happy to pay the 65 quid and I got 317 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:03,640 a bear and a, and a wolf, which obviously I want the wolf cause you know, me and wolves 318 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,000 go way back, but they feel well different. Like the bear feels like a fucking bear and 319 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,720 the wolf feels like a more like a horse, but yeah, they, they feel different, which is, 320 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:20,320 which I didn't expect. They, they moved differently. They've the bear. I tried to tell. I imagine 321 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,680 if you played wow on console, I imagine the mounts would feel different, but on controller, 322 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,400 it just, I don't know if it's the haptic feedback or whatnot. It still feels different on. Well, 323 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,680 I know what you mean. Cause you could have a, um, like I've got a mountain that's a fucking 324 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,080 little rabbit. It moves very fast by its animation because it's tiny. But I've also got a mountain 325 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:45,320 that's a massive fucking murloc thing that moves very slow, but they move at the same 326 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,160 speed. It's just one looks like it's moving a lot quicker than the other. And it feels 327 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,560 like that at all. It's weird. It's the same with apex legends. They all move the same 328 00:28:53,560 --> 00:29:00,680 speed, but it's there. Oh, yeah. But it don't feel like it caustic for slow. Um, yeah, right 329 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,360 now I love it. I'm very, very, very, very, very much looking forward to playing it tonight. 330 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:12,760 I cannot wait. Um, I've been thinking about it all day. Um, and yeah, I cannot wait to 331 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,360 on the same to be fair. I want to, cause we got, um, I've got a couple of things that 332 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:28,040 I need to do on wow in prep for raid. And I'm like, Oh, I can't be bothered. Cause I 333 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,200 want to play fucking new world brand, the new shiny thing. But I just, just nice because 334 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,200 then let's say I've got, I think, I think all my pals are playing on PS five, but the 335 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,000 fact that now I've got two, cause this never happens. I've got two pals that are playing 336 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,280 it. And I know one of them has already played PC. So they played it from start anyway. Um, 337 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,520 but this is, they played it before mounts were even a thing. So he played it long time 338 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,520 ago. Swimming never used to be a fucking thing. Exactly. Uh, and another guy who is 339 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,520 the arc guy who only plays arc. I know he's into it cause he's just fucking bought the 340 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,240 game and he wouldn't do that. Otherwise I've got you, which is always a go to, uh, he's 341 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,360 always there if need be. I'm trying to fucking wrangle Connor into it. Um, we can beat him 342 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,640 into it tomorrow. And then you've got, we've got all your mates. You've got your guild 343 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,480 mates and well, I'm hoping that I'll be able to pull cause just Connor, Connor, no one 344 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 from the guild really wants to play it, but I'm hoping that me and Connor will get a little 345 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,120 fucking thing going on their own in our own little company. Well, even like I say, even 346 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Irish Connor, what did he say? What did he fucking say? What's the buttons company and 347 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,920 take over the world, which is fine. Yeah. Didn't I send you that? Is that what I sent 348 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,080 you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but it's just the fact that I will have people to play with, 349 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,640 which will make a massive difference. So I haven't always got to play. If it's just me 350 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,320 and you playing a game, if you're not interested in your plan, wow, then I've got no one. But 351 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,120 now I've got other people that will always be about, like, because there's, as I've said 352 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,560 multiple times on this podcast, my biggest problem with destiny too was, and we spoke 353 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,960 about it last week, I believe, like I can't do the good shit because I haven't got any 354 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,640 friends that play and I have to go into other people I don't know. And it's uncomfortable. 355 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,360 Yeah. The anxiety. Whereas now I could have fucking, I don't know how many people you 356 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,320 need for the dungeons and raids, cause there is a raid or multiple raids. I'm not sure 357 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,280 on this. Um, I don't know how many people you need for that, but I know that I've got 358 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,760 people I can go in with at least, and I'm not going to fucking feel like a cunt. So 359 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,960 that's good enough for me. And I just hope they keep adding and adding to it and the 360 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,640 expansions and it just goes on and on and on. And let's be, let's be honest, destiny 361 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,500 one, destiny two, I don't know about, well, cause I don't know, but I definitely know 362 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:43,400 ESO. I definitely know final fantasy online, all these games when they first come out as 363 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,880 MMOs, everyone's as shit because there's no content. There's not a lot to do. So look 364 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,240 at them now. ESO is fucking popping. Um, final fantasy online. Well, one of the biggest, 365 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,400 uh, I can't remember what the other one is. I'm not ignoring you by the way. I went on 366 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,440 the discord to get that mess up and everyone's talking about new world and the fucking chats. 367 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,520 I'm currently trying to gloss over it quick. Destiny one and destiny two. Once again, like 368 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,320 I know they've got their problems, but still a huge player base for a long period of time. 369 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,280 These games, because they're a game, the game is a service. Obviously you buy this, which 370 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,600 is a better thing. As you stated last week about phone and Liberty and you're a hundred 371 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,280 percent right. If it's free, stay away from them because their money is going to be locked 372 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,640 in. It's very difficult to enjoy a free play game without the, the pay to win aspect of 373 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,680 it. Exactly. So this is, uh, in my opinion, this is very early on in its life. It launched, 374 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,360 it had a million players. Everyone was going mad for it. I remember seeing as mongold fucking 375 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,120 as mongold. I remember fucking, I remember seeing as mongold fucking going mad about 376 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,280 see everyone just everywhere. And obviously I looked, Oh PC, I'll just never looked again. 377 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,640 And then it's had a couple of years and now it's back and it's had its big relaunch. And 378 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,000 I'm hoping the numbers will speak for themselves and they'll go, right. Brilliant. We've got 379 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:07,440 a hundred thousand players across all systems daily. Let's fucking pump the money into it. 380 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,400 You don't, you don't go through the effort of porting it over to console and then making 381 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,240 it feel so good as it does on console. Um, and then just stop there. Something else is 382 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,680 massive that is when it goes well, no one says anything, but when it goes bad, everyone's 383 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,800 talking about it. The launch was fantastic. I had no server queue and not one jittery 384 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,920 fucking zero issues. And I played it on the launch day and it was fucking swimming. And 385 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,000 like I say, it's one of them, you just don't talk about because it, it's not a problem. 386 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,840 It's a problem. The bad shit when it's a problem, everyone's like, it's fucking terrible. 387 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,360 Cause when you, when you sit there and you, you say all the good stuff, it just sounds 388 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,080 like you're sucking its dick. And a lot of people don't like that. They want to, they 389 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,600 want to hear the bad stuff. But it's, I mean, don't get me wrong. When I, when I first jumped 390 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,000 into it, I thought it was, it was a bit boring, but my MMO brain switched on and I went, every 391 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,740 fucking MMO is boring. When you first start playing it, that's what makes the end game 392 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:08,920 so much fun is that it's taking you on a journey of building your character up and lo and behold, 393 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,480 it only took a fucking hour and then boom, here's a, here's a load of fucking his, his 394 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,560 three or four different weapons with different skill trees and abilities that completely 395 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,280 change your play style and what you can do. See you later. Go and have some fun. 396 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,720 It took me a lot longer to realize. And I care to admit that you could change weapons 397 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:32,560 because I had, I had the sword and shield and I had that hatchet and I was running around 398 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,640 a field killing fucking zombies or whatever the fuck they are. And I was like, how come 399 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,280 he's got a shield and a gun? What the fuck's going on? And then I tried equipping another 400 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,000 weapon. I was like, Oh, I didn't know. I thought I was like tied into the sword shield hatchet 401 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,960 thing. All that does is put one, put two of your stats up to 50 straight away. I didn't 402 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,440 know that. I thought that was like a lock in. That was my class kind of job. 403 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Well, that's, that's what I thought until, until looking into it and then, yeah, no, 404 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:07,080 it follows that final fantasy way of playing. And then like I say, you level, you level 405 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,680 them up passively or whatever weapons you have equipped. You level up passively as you 406 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:22,200 go. And it's, it's that, that, that burst of life at the beginning. And I just hope 407 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:28,040 that that, that life continues even, even if after however long we're not even playing 408 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:36,880 anymore, as long as that still stays because I'm not a massive fan of Amazon as a company. 409 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:45,640 Don't get me wrong. I have Amazon prime. Are you a massive fan of Blizzard? Not massively. 410 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,880 I'm not a massive fan of Ubisoft, but I like their games. But you couldn't. Well, not anymore. 411 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,640 We've spoke about it at, at length in that Amazon are trying to break into the gaming 412 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,080 world. I think a lot of industries, a lot of companies are now starting to see gaming 413 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,280 as an industry and the absolute powerhouse that it is. Like we've said before, it earns 414 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:16,760 more money than any other form of media combined. Gaming is a fucking force to be reckoned with. 415 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,080 So if you're looking for your next avenue to fucking make some big bucks and you have 416 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,520 the capability for it, gaming is number one. And that is exactly what Amazon's been trying 417 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,340 to do with fucking Amazon Luna, with getting different like deals with like Twitch drops 418 00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:35,720 and blah, blah, blah. Like they're, they're, they're trying to break into that space. 419 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:40,120 And I feel like when new world was released, that was their fucking flagship for doing 420 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,120 that. And game itself was very good. But like you say, the end game stuff, it fell short. 421 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,240 So naturally you had shit loads of people playing it and then it all fucking dropped 422 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,640 down. And whilst we've said it before, very good for a game when you get that sort of 423 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,640 traction at the beginning. But if you ain't equipped to deal with that, then your game's 424 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,720 going to flop. Doesn't matter how fucking good it is, how much content it is, people 425 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,880 will reach the end of it and they will complain that there's nothing to do because they've 426 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,960 no life for a month. And that is just the sad thing that happens. It's good and bad. 427 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,220 And I feel like that's what happened. And releasing it to console is the resurgence 428 00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:26,760 that it needs to really give it a fucking kick up the ass and make it a very good MMO. 429 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,200 Not a wow killer, not a fucking Final Fantasy killer. I think it's its own standalone MMO. 430 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,880 And I feel like it will do very well as long as they keep continuing what they're doing. 431 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Yeah. I mean, there's no reason why it can't compete with Final Fantasy in terms of the 432 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,320 console player base because that's all they can do is Final Fantasy. So if a lot of people 433 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,100 are like either just playing Final Fantasy because they've got console and they want 434 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:56,320 to play an MMO or they're just playing Final Fantasy because they've played it for the 435 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,160 last 10 years and they'd like to play something else but haven't got PC. Now there's a natural 436 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,160 transition to if you wanted to, I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm just saying it's 437 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,800 an alternative. And if that alternative suits you better, because I like Final Fantasy Online. 438 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,560 As I say, if it had WoW's graphics or art style or even New World's art style, whatever, 439 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:21,080 like the monsters and the dragons and all that shit, the cool shit that I like, then 440 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480 I think Final Fantasy Online would be fantastic. But it's not for me. And if there's other 441 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,440 people playing Final Fantasy that are like-minded and want that darker, grittier kind of art 442 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,560 style, then this is probably for them. So there's no reason it can't like people transition 443 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,520 from it. And I like Final Fantasy's attitude towards it anyway. They're not going to play 444 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,480 other shit, man. Come back if you want. We'll be here. And that's good. That's what I like 445 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:49,840 most about Final Fantasy. But yeah, I think, as I say, I think this is more like day one 446 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,440 for it and look back in 10 years and see what it looks like. And then you'll have a good 447 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,360 argument on whether it's successful or not. 448 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:05,160 It's a very exciting time to be a part of it because you, like you say, you get to experience 449 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,840 it almost from day one. I mean, especially for us, it is for fucking day one. Obviously 450 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:15,840 the people that have been playing it since beta, it isn't. But yeah, I'll be intrigued 451 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,760 to see if, yeah, in like five, 10 years time, if this game is still going. It's so difficult 452 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,440 to talk about it without sounding like you're fucking glazing it. Like when all the streamers 453 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,160 talk about Throne and Liberty, go, this is the best game ever, blah, blah, blah, blah, 454 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,840 blah. It's like, yeah, you're being paid to fucking say a lot of that. And you've got 455 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,720 to almost be careful with the shit that you see on New World because a lot of the stuff 456 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:43,400 that people review for it are sponsored by Amazon fucking to review it. And you think, 457 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,560 well, well, they've got you then, haven't they? You're not going to say anything completely 458 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:53,680 fucking terrible about this game. But from our very brief point of playing it compared 459 00:39:53,680 --> 00:40:01,200 to other people so far, it's, it's very promising. Check back with us next week. 460 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,440 Check back with us in 10 years because as I said before, like I've said to you on, wow, 461 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,440 when you're just pulling out all your fucking sick mounts and fucking shit like that. I 462 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,800 want that. And I can't get that no more. I'm like, no, no, no, but I want that shit. So 463 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,960 now I'm excited to be essentially day one to be able to be there when this cool shit 464 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,480 happened and then you can't get that shit no more. I'm hoping to be that guy in five 465 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,960 years. We're like, I'll get a new mate to play it. Oh, where'd you get that? You can't 466 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,840 get that no more. That was like an exclusive raid in 2026. Yeah. That was just the one 467 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,760 time event that we, we, we, we a started and yeah, I want to, I want to be that loser. 468 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,640 That's what I want to be. Uh, and I hope, cause, cause I know, I know, and I agree, 469 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,920 I do jump from game to game, but there's never been an MMO like this other than Final Fantasy 470 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,000 Online on console. And I've always wanted to play it. Cause you can just grind and grind 471 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,160 and grind and yeah, Final Fantasy Online is great. And it's got the problems that I don't 472 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:03,160 like as I've said, but yeah, I'm jumping into a fucking 10, 15 year old MMO that I haven't 473 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,560 got nostalgia for and I'm having to get through all the shit to get to the good stuff. And 474 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,560 I don't even know where the good stuff is or what it is that makes it great. Um, whereas 475 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,200 now I'm starting from day one, I'm going to see all the bumps and scratches. I'm not saying 476 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,560 it's perfect. Of course I'm not, you know, it's not perfect at all. It's, it's got the 477 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,200 odd bit of jank. I say some of the animations are a bit shit. It's not perfect in any way, 478 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:30,400 shape or form, but I also, I'm not naive enough to understand that it will get better if they 479 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,880 want it to. Yeah. And I think there'd be silly not to. Yeah. It has, it has, it's, it's varying 480 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:43,720 flaws, but every, I feel like every game, every game does. Uh, also I think it's, it's 481 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:49,200 a decent one for us because for me personally, if new world isn't fantastic, I'll put it 482 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,120 down. I go fucking continue playing world of warcraft alongside it. Like I'm already 483 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:59,280 doing. Makes no issue to me whether it, whether it flops or it doesn't. And for yourself, 484 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:06,560 you're, you're looking for an MMO that you can, that you can play on the daily and you're 485 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,600 in that fortunate position where you don't have that yet. And I feel like because you 486 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,920 don't have that, it, it's fantastic if new world is that game, but also not the end of 487 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,040 the world if it isn't because you haven't fucking got the game. You haven't got that, 488 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,880 that consistent game yet. Anyway, it is terrible if it isn't, if there's no MMOs coming out 489 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,160 on console soon, because if it isn't, I, where's my MMO man. Give me satin. What I like, right? 490 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,960 Is cause I love, I played destiny two a lot as you know, but I can't just put, obviously 491 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,200 I just played destiny two pretty much solo anyway, but I couldn't just put destiny two 492 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:46,840 on and just grind out my mind in fucking ability. I can't, that's what I like. Like I can't, 493 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,240 I like grinding. I know not everyone does. I do. Uh, I can go and grind weapons, but 494 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,040 it's not really the same. You're trying to get drops. It's not that runescape feel, isn't 495 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,640 it? Let me, let me level up my fletching. None of the boys are on tonight. So I'll spend 496 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,000 tonight doing my login. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I like that. I like that. I know it's 497 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,840 a weird thing, but I like that and I want that. It's not weird at all. It's, it's why 498 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:15,040 it's in so many fucking games. So many, because it's just a, it's, it's, it's a grind. It's 499 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,280 the endorphin thing, isn't it? Every time you chop down a tree, every time you kill 500 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,920 someone in this game, it goes ping and something goes round and levels up a little bit and 501 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:29,360 you're just like, yes. And the best part about it. Yes. No fucking building. No, no. Oh my 502 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,600 God. There's no fucking building. That was the first thing I asked Irish Connor. So it 503 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,840 hasn't got any building in it. He said, no, you can buy houses that you have to pay tax 504 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,880 on and you can play stuff in them like on ESO, but there's no fucking building. And 505 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,200 it was the one thing I really, really, really hated about in Trouted. Cause I thought no 506 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,640 matter, no matter how good you make the building mechanics of something, it's so fucking boring, 507 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,320 especially when you make it mandatory as well to do half the shit you need to do in a game. 508 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,680 I ain't got the creativity for it. I haven't. I agree. I'm not interested in it because 509 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,000 then all that happens is even if you don't need to do it, like with in Trouted, you don't 510 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,240 really need to build. But when you then go and see all the shit that everyone else is 511 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,640 capable of building, you go all fucking hell, you're getting a way better experience than 512 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,880 me because I'm just thick as shit. Take that away. You fuck off back to Valheim. You want 513 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,760 to go and build something, go over there. 514 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,800 That is fucking in depth building shit. And there is like the support beams in and shit 515 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:34,480 bro. I needed a degree to be able to do that shit. Um, but yeah, just to watch something 516 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:40,520 go ping and go up and stuff. And it's just always something to be grinding. And you know, 517 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,600 as time goes on, I'm sure they'll add fucking more skills and weapons and all sorts of other 518 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,880 shit. Raise the level cap again, raise the level. That's just, that's it. And it's own 519 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,280 MMOs, you know, the next fucking update, we raise the level cap. Whoa. Yeah. More pings 520 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,280 going up. 521 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,360 65 or 70 or something like that. 60. 522 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,560 So when you get to fucking level 60 and then the next suspension, they raise the level 523 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,400 cap to 70. Oh yeah. 10 more levels. I mean, fuck all in reality, but you want it. You 524 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,400 want to fucking do it, didn't you? 525 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,480 And as long as the end game is fucking worth its salt, then, then you're all good pretty 526 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,640 much because you hit the max level and then that's where the game really begins or how 527 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,640 it should be. 528 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,040 But that's what I'm hoping they improve on because that's people's issue is all right. 529 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,040 The end game is there's no end game, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I'm hoping that is 530 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,040 where 531 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,920 the PVP is meant to be really good. Yeah. And that's what I'm hoping for. Get max level 532 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:38,560 and just start smacking shit. PVP. So yeah, that's that then. I like that Irish bird as 533 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:46,080 well. That pirate. She's cause fuck. Oh, Grace O'Malley. Yeah. I just like it because she's 534 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:53,040 Irish. She's cool. She doesn't give a fucking monkeys, bro. Right. Hi there. Sweet. We're 535 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,320 going to go and do the patron. Catch you next week to talk more about fucking. Oh no, don't 536 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,440 worry. Go on. No, no, no. I was just going to say we're going to play D and D tomorrow, 537 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:08,840 but that's for the patron people. See you later.