Oh, I'll start it then. Oh, I thought you were just talking to yourself. Staring into
the fucking distance. Oh, go on then. What's happened here? Oh, no. No. Never mind. My
headset's caught. You alright? Most people would start again, but we just carry on. And
I love that about us. There's absolutely no need for it. I don't see the point. Yeah,
I'm alright. I mean, we just had this conversation, but we'll have it again. Pretend we're just
having it for the first time. I'm good. It's a wasp. I know. As I said, once people start
again, we just crack up. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you want to just fucking jump straight into
the new year and gritty of new world? You go. A turn. You go. I've seen you playing
it and I don't need to talk. I'll just bounce off whatever it is you're saying. Well, you're
the expert on this. I'm a newbie. No, you bet. How many hours have you put into it?
Oh, not that many. I'm only level 20. Yeah, I'm only level six. Yeah, I know, but you've
played it for a bit and I will answer questions and talk about it, but you're the MMO expert.
You're the one that actually has feelings towards this stuff. I'm just a reactive person.
No, based off of our last podcast, you have fucking feelings for this one. I played about
half an hour of it yesterday before I had to go to work and that was not enough time
to gauge an interest. I did smile. I smiled. I've got space between two as well. I've been
playing that. I figured because the way wow's going, I've got a keystone master and we're
going to get ahead of the curve hopefully this week. So once I've done that, those are
the two things I'm really interested in. Anything other than that, I can just fucking take a
backseat and I figured running a gaming podcast, I feel myself slipping into the just playing
wow all the time and we did that before where for a month solid, I was just playing that
and I had nothing to talk about. So I thought, well, there's these fucking good games that
are coming about. And then obviously Space Marine 2, I was humming and hiring about it
and I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to buy it because Connor and Jay at
work are both playing it and obviously you're playing it and I think has Darryl got it?
Yeah. He's got it. He's got it. He buys it, plays it once and then doesn't play again.
So I thought, fuck it. Let me get something because I want something to just sit back
on and what a fantastic game. Again, I'm like halfway through the campaign, delving into
the lore, fucking smashing the shit out of people. It's good fun. I played co-op with
Connor and Jay the other day and I played a class with like a grapple gun. Marauder,
is it? Vanguard. Vanguard. That's the one. What a fucking fun class that is. Just fucking
grapple into people and smack their heads together. It was a lot better pre-nerf but
anyway. So much fun. So been playing that and then obviously with New World coming out,
it was Irish Connor that was chatting to me after our podcast and sort of said like, if
you're fucking want to play New World, let me know because obviously he's got 400 hours
in it before the expansion. So when it first come out and he said he really, really liked
it but no one from the guild was really interested in playing it. So and when it first come out,
I wasn't, I was intrigued but at the same time I'm playing well. I was like, I'm not
going to pick up another MMO on PC when I'm already in the fucking grips of this one.
So then it coming out on console, I've read a million different reviews and fucking feedback
and really, really looked into it. And the consensus was that it feels really, really
good on console on controller. And that's kind of what you want from an MMO that's being
ported over because I always find it difficult when you have a PC origin MMO bring it over
to console. There's a lot of shit on those UIs that just doesn't fucking work. Prime
example that did it really well. I know it's not an MMO but Baldur's Gate on controller
for that setup is fantastic. And it has no right being as good as it actually is, but
it is really good. The best. However, Elder Scrolls Online, I much prefer it on PC than
I do on console because it just feels finicky on console and to navigate the menus and everything,
it just feels way better on PC. So I was like, well, I'm worried about a feeling like that.
However, New World is fully cross play with everything. We have Xbox, we have PlayStation,
we have PC, it's all fucking cross play, which is something that ESO doesn't have. Combat
style was very similar to ESO. So rather than your traditional tab target and blah, blah,
blah, you have two weapons that you or two, yeah, two weapons that you can equip or archetypes.
And I think that's what they're called. I think it's just weapons, just weapons. We'll
go with just weapons. And with that, you get three abilities for each. So if you're using
a sword and a shield, you can get three abilities. You swap around to a fucking hatchet, you
got three abilities for that. But it takes that stance of Final Fantasy where you're
able to use every single weapon and level up every single weapon respectively. And that
is essentially your class. You create a character and you pick a class. So like soldier, oculist
and archer, whatever, but they're not, they're just what you're starting as. So you can pick
up any weapons that you want and then level up through them. And then what I also like
about that is you level up two weapons passively. So whatever two weapons you've got equipped,
if you're fucking using the sword and shield, but you've got a bow equipped, it'll also
level up the bow whilst you're going along. So you're never that far behind the curve
with other abilities, other weapons. And yeah, I got to play it a decent chunk today, maybe
like maybe like two hours to sort of understand a little bit more of what's going on. I love
it. Very fun. It's very, very fun. It's what I wanted from ESO on console. Combat feels
really, really cool. The ability to swap between weapons feels really good. The difference
in like the tanking abilities and the DPS abilities and the healing abilities and the
hatchet, for example. So at the moment, my person who I made as a soldier starts with
a sword and shield and a hatchet delve into the fucking skill points of the hatchet. And
you've got berserker or you've got, I don't know what it's called, but it's all throwing
axe stuff. So you go from, I can either spec into being two fucking hatchets melee up in
your face or ranged. And I like that as a nice little flare. Now I've got the fucking
great hammer, which you can have as a tank or as a DPS and the tank stuff is all AOE
and it's very new, new and intriguing. But at the same time, I know exactly what it's
about. It feels like a mixture of Elder Scrolls Online and enshrouded in the skill system
with flavors of Final Fantasy and then flavors of other MMOs. At the moment, it feels really
fucking fun. I'll say really good. Good. Feels good. That's what I wanted to hear. It feels
like there was a geyser playing a flute in front of me. I danced for him. That was good
fun. Happened to me yesterday. It's great. It's, it's, it's at the moment, very, very
simple, very fun, very vibrant, very pretty and, and very simple. And I love the fact
that you're not missing out on a load of shit by starting now. This game's been out for
two years. You're not, it's not like if you jump into WoW now or Destiny or ESO or Final
Fantasy and you have fucking no idea what's going on. This starts with a turn them, which
is their expansion, but that is the way they've made it. That is the start of the game. So
I don't know what the fuck happened when it first come out up until now. I haven't got
a clue. All I know is if you buy it and you play it now, you're starting from fucking
day one essentially, which is really good if you're looking to jump into new world.
It's great. I see it as like, I feel like this is day one of the MMO personally. Yeah.
Because I think, well it is no, yeah, I know. But I mean like, obviously a lot of the critiques
that I've seen from new world, cause I've done a lot of research as you know, as we
discussed and I continue to do that. The biggest critique I ever saw from new world was everyone
loved the game. Everyone said, Oh, I've got a thousand hours. I've got 500 hours, blah,
blah, blah. But then it petered off at end game. Cause there's nothing to do. Yeah. But
I hope that the reason that is, is because they put all their resources into getting
it onto console rather than putting it into end game. Cause now they've put it in console.
They've got three massive, the three biggest platforms. Uh, and the pool of players is
obviously tripled in size, all playing with each other. Now they can look towards the
future because now it's on everything. Now that's when they'll really start putting
that out. And obviously the roadmap they said are gonna, they're gonna announce after launch.
So that should be coming any day. So that's very exciting. But yeah, right now I feel
like this is the, this is the day one of it because now it's open to everybody. Um, and
yeah, it's sad for the PC players and probably burnt ourselves out cause they had nothing
to do for so long, but hopefully they'll, uh,
I don't know though, cause I think it'll be a resurgence. I know there's, there's, I've
been catching whispers of people sat like getting a bit annoyed almost like the, the
PC players were beta testers for the last, however long, um, for console. It's a, it's
a direction or it's very difficult to break into the MMO space and then start stealing
spotlight. Um, very, very, it not very easy, but easier to achieve that when you are able
to do it on PC and console and then make them cross play. ESO doesn't have the cross play,
but it has the console capability. So if you don't have a PC and you've got a PlayStation
or you've got an Xbox, whatever you can play it on that. So you're not missing out on that
respect, but if your pals play on PC, then yeah, you, you can't play with them. So to
have an MMO that is relatively simple to pick up and have it accessible for everyone. And
then everyone can play with everyone just like space Marine. Oh, and that you can, you
can play a geyser on Xbox and a geyser on PC all at the same time and, and in game voice
and all of that kind of stuff, which, which is shit that I love because it bridges the
gap of, of that console war PC master race bollocks. It's just, everyone's able to fucking
play with everyone. It's funny that we always have Fortnite to thank for that for cross
play. Fuck them. I don't give Fortnite any credit for anything. If it weren't for Fortnite,
cross play wouldn't exist. No, it definitely would. It would just exist for someone else
first. They're fucking no way they get their flowers from me. Um, but yeah, I think, uh,
I think this is going to open up a lot of potential for them. And I, it's obviously
add a resurgence on Steve for numbers. Uh, I dunno, it's obviously going to go down,
but it went up though. I saw it at like 50,000 or so. Um, it's hard to tell what the console
player base is, but you'd imagine that was big. So you combine the steam numbers with
the PlayStation numbers with the Xbox numbers, it should be doing pretty fucking well. And
obviously with more numbers, that means more money going into the game, more money being
spent on the game, which means they're going to be hopefully pummeling money into it. And
we all know that Amazon have a lot of money. I was going to say the one thing they don't
need to worry about is fucking money. If they can get a little cash cow going, they're going
to, they're going to do it. And they, and I'll, I'll be more than happy for them to
pummel money into it. Um, right now I currently have, um, definitely two other players, possibly
four, um, two geysers from work. We've got it and they are currently, one's already level
15. He stayed up late last night to try and catch me up for some reason. I didn't even
know he's playing it. And then the other guy has just downloaded it, bought it today and
he is just picking his server as of 10 minutes ago.
What server you on? Taurus. I'm on Kronos. He just automatically put me on. I didn't
even pick one. Um, the servers are locked. You need to go to a setting on there. It's
called block packet, packet something. And you put that to like the highest and it sorts
out any like jankiness. That's a big one. It was a bit like, why are you so quiet? I'm
not quiet. Not for me. I'm not, I'm very loud in my ears. You're very quiet on this. No,
I'm watching. That's something you're supposed to pause for and then, yeah, you're so quiet.
I'll just speak louder. But then I feel like I'm shouting. So then you just fucking turn
your headset down. No, but I am actually shouting. Is it? No, that's me. That's you. Isn't it?
That's me. Yeah. That's better. I can't hear myself so much. There you go. Brilliant. Um,
yeah, turn whatever that setting is up to max. I think it's just like how much internet
your game is using to play. Uh, and that changed that settings. Just a little thing I saw on
a video yesterday. Um, but yeah, I think the big, the big draw for this is obviously console
because console MMOs, there's not a lot of, there's final fantasy online, which once again,
I'm not shitting on, but I just don't like the art style of it. I don't like the way
shit looks. Just don't like that. You can't fucking get logged in simple. Yeah. That that
in itself is fucking annoying. Yeah, that's, that's not ideal, but you're kind of limited.
So they're tapping into like a pretty much un mined resource in my opinion. Um, so you're
going to have a lot of people interested in that respect. And the big one, the biggest
one I think for them is like, say it's simple. And I don't mean the game simple. I think
it's pretty deep, but on surface level, when you start and I can compare it straight away
to throwing the Liberty, the, as soon as you start throwing Liberty, it's just shit everywhere.
It's just too much on the screen. Like it might be right for someone like you that knows
MMOs very well and can go, right, that's chat. That's fucking that. That's that. That's that.
Whereas me, I'm just like, it's too much going on. I want to remove 90% of this shit, but
I don't know what's, what I should be removing and what should be keeping. Whereas phone,
uh, new world is very light. It's almost like playing a single player game initially because
it's, it teaches you how to do things and much like Final Fantasy, although it does
it a lot fucking quick on Final Fantasy, it slowly teaches you things and then moves on
to something else rather than just going, poof, here's loads of information. Remember
that because you're going to need that. And then poof, here's loads more information.
It slowly teaches you shit. And that's, that's important because that keeps me engaged because
now I'm remembering stuff. Um, and yeah, it's just a lot better than any of that shit from
phone and Liberty and Final Fantasy online does it really well, but then they also draw
shit out for too long. It's like, here's how to attack. Now go and attack this geezer for
10 rounds in the arena and then move on. And just like, no, I've got that. I've got that
part. You know, when you press the right trick, I've got that. Let's, let's move on now. Um,
I spent a decent chunk just fucking running around, just killing stuff, just aimless killing
stuff because then, cause then at the moment you're, you're able to, um, to respect your
weapons for free. So if, if, if you, if you go down the route of say like with the hatchet
and berserker and then you don't like it and you want to go to the frying one, then, then
it's free. You just swap that around. And the, the fact that those weapons only have
free abilities, obviously you've got your, your standard like light attacks with R2 and
then you hold R2 down and you fucking do a heavy attack. You block with L2, blah, blah,
blah. Um, but having just free abilities per spec, per weapon makes it so much more easier
to get used to it and to not get overwhelmed by it. And you'd think that that would be
quite boring, but I, I spec'd into the, the, the tank portion of the sword and shield,
and then I'm the throwing portion of the hatchet. Um, that shit is fucking fantastic. That is
fantastic. A fucking blast free hatchets in someone's head and then just ram them with
a shield and then just start wailing into them. It's so much fun. So much fun. It's
funny cause we picked the same shit. I mean, I've, I've literally just swapped out the
sword and shield for a fucking great hammer. It's like some massive anchor that I got off
of some geezer. Um, and that is, that is extremely fun. The only bit that I might add is that
the, um, the visuals on some of the abilities are a bit lackluster, um, could do with some,
some more beefing up to, to make it look a little bit more pretty. Like for example,
one of the abilities for the great hammer is, um, you, you like slam it down into the
ground and then three rings go out in a line in front of you. And it's like daisies and
fucking stunts enemies or whatever sounds cool. Doesn't look cool because you slam it
into the ground and then it is literally like free blurry sort of yellow rings pop up and
go out in front of you. And it's like, you could, you could do more with that, but I
appreciate that this is still early on to that, that sort of shit can be tweaked and,
and fixed along the way. Yeah. I, um, I just like running around killing shit. It's not
good boring and very relaxing to just chop down trees and mine oars and shit. I only
got the acts and the, um, pickaxe yesterday. So I've just been, I made that shit fucking
straight off the bat. I tried. I couldn't work out to do it. I, uh, I had, I had the,
um, what did I have? I had whatever it was initially. I had something initially that
I saw for sickle or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. I think you get that anyway. Cause you have
to make the hunting knife first. Yeah. Yeah. And then I just made everything else alongside
that cause you can just equip it all. Yeah. I didn't know that. So I didn't get out to
level 17. So I've only just started chopping down trees and shit, but, um, yeah, it's just
peaceful man. I feel like it's, it's what I want because I can just put this game on
and just fucking get right into it and go and do X, Y, and Z, or I can just put it on
no headphones, just put some music on a real podcast. Just go and chop down trees, mind
some fucking stone. We're in that honeymoon of you don't know what the end game is. I
have no idea. I don't know about dungeons. I know nothing about this game, obviously
for myself. Um, a lot of the stuff that pops up, I'll, I'll be familiar with it. I, it
won't, it won't be a shock how the systems are, but as far as from a research point,
I've done nothing into the end game or anything. I just knew that a few of my pals are starting
to fucking buy it. I've already got a pal from the guild that has put 400 hours with
it and, and, and I sort of, I trust his word. If Irish Connor says it's decent, then it's
decent. Um, and 400 hours to me sounds like you've put enough time and effort into it
to know if it's decent. He also played in shrouded around the same time I was playing
this. We have the same viewpoint on how that game was. So I, I, I had enough info to know,
yeah, let's, let's spend the 50 quid and then, and then work out how good it really is. And
like I said, at the beginning of the pod, I know from my many years of playing, well,
I'm getting to the point where I'm going to take a little backseat whilst the new season
comes and I want something that I can play alongside that. And like you just said, I
want something that I can pick up relatively easy and fucking put down without having to
worry too much, which is great.
I, I will be no life in this for the foreseeable future until I get to the end and then go,
I'll give you two weeks. Yeah. I know everyone has little faith in me. Yeah. Very little
faith because you're very fickle ultimately. No, I'm not fickle. I just can't stick with
it. It's just, this will be, we'll do a podcast next week. You'll say that this is the absolute
goat and it's, this is your forever home. And then two weeks after that, there'll be
something else and we won't be talking about fucking new world. I'll probably still be
playing it and fucking chipping away. Nah, you're as fickle as me, bro. No, I'm not.
You are apart from well, you're just the same. You are the same. You know you are. If in
shrouded was out of early access and was a fully fleshed out game and there was, there
was adding stuff to it continuously. I guarantee me and Connor would still be playing it because
that game had us by the balls. How come you don't listen to any of my recommendations?
What do you mean? I, you, you're the reason I bought space Marine too, initially. Why
am I the reason that you bought, I didn't even have it. No, exactly. But you were gassing
it up on it. Everyone's getting it. I'm going to get it. And then you paid it and you really
liked it. And you said, I'm going to get it. I'm definitely going to get it. Hold on. And
then I got it. No, no, no. I said, it was great. And then, no, no, no, I'm talking.
This is bollocks. Then you just said 10 minutes ago, ah, and then cause matey bobbot work
was playing it and someone else was playing it. So I got it. And then new world. Oh, because
the Irish Connor's fucking planet and a couple of lads at work plan. Nothing ever. I say
you just, I'm your podcast host. No, no. Right. Let me, let me clear some things up here.
Right. I'm not going to take advice from you when it comes to MMOs because you're still
a baby. All right. That's not a domain. That's fair enough. Not a domain that we're going
to enter. Now let me quell this fucking little argument. People with the podcast, let me
drop some fucking law on you. Right. Me and Ash have known each other for what? Four years,
four and a bit years, something like that. I'm going by the basis of the current career
that I'm in and how long I've been doing it. Cause I've known you since day one of doing
that career. So it's about four something years. Now Ash was a, was a, wasn't the most
welcoming person in the world. Very, very, very scary, but was a gamer. And I was in
an industry where fucking no one was really talking about video games at all until Ash
started fucking having a little chat with me about it and was like, Oh, how exciting
is this? That's the friendship buds. Right. One of our first conversations was an argument
because I didn't play God of war. Well, I did play it and then said that it wasn't good
and I, and I stopped and that was, that was God of war 2018. And then what happened? You
berated me, called me a dickhead and then lying, be old. I played it and it was one
of the best games I've ever played in my life. Right. That's that, that's fucking game. Number
one that was under your recommendation, right? Game number two days gone. You didn't get
that from me. I've said it. No, I got that from you. No, I said it. And then you said
Mark was playing it or something. Yes. But you stemmed from that as well. Yeah, I might
stem from this, but you wait until other people have then, Daisy, Daisy is another one. Fucking
hell. We've got Diablos on there and all. That's another one. Fuck me. The list goes
on. The list goes on. He was playing Diablo and more. I don't know what you want from
me. I don't know. It just feels like my recommendations. Not enough. You need it solidified. Yeah,
but you're exactly the same. Call it the lamb. Call it the lamb is another one. I take it
back. I'm not man enough to admit when I'm wrong. So I'm wrong. It's a fucking tricky
situation when you're rolling into games like that that require someone's plan to be dancing.
What the fuck is that? We're getting a buff. Someone wants to take you away and play a
new game that requires a lot of time and effort. You've got to do your research and fucking
work out what's going on. You're right. I thought that Robin had one leg, but he doesn't.
So yeah, what I want to know is obviously there's going to be loads of us now. So are
we going to make a massive company and take over the map? Well, this is where it's going
to get about fucking skew iffy. This is where we're going to have problems. Oh, here we
go. All right. Because I'm on Kronos. You're not on Kronos. You can change that. It's easy
apparently. Just change. Well, we need to work it out because Irish Connor's on Kronos.
So you solidified that before you start. Okay. Yeah. See, once again, I'll take it back.
The apology. Why? Because you didn't ask me once what server I was on. No. No, you just
went straight for Connor. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. You can stay over there. I actually made
a character on Kronos and then deleted it and made another character on a different
server and then Connor asked me what one I was on. I forgot and said Kronos. I then deleted
that new character and then remade another character on Kronos because he had gone over
there because you also had the factions are locked as well. Yeah. Well, we're going unlike
you. I was waiting to see where we're going yellow. Yeah. Well, I'm not. I'm going marauder.
Oh, we can do that. Then we'll just fucking be fighting each other constantly. I think
that is marauder. Marauder. There's marauder and there's a purple one. I don't know the
names. I just know that yellow, green and purple. I love the colour yellow. That's what
I'm going with. If we can change servers, then we can change servers. Kronos is a low
pop server anyway, because what I don't get is when you pick a server, it's got the ones
with the little yellow. I never picked a server. I literally clicked EU server thing and then
I pressed start and then I was just in and I didn't know what exactly. So don't ever
go at me that I've picked a server without you. You didn't even know you was fucking
picking one. But you have because you've deleted three characters, much like Final Fantasy.
Remember when you got to play Final Fantasy and I got to like level 20, it was like, fuck
this and then delete it and start again. Not knowing that it was going to be a hundred
fucking hours anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did that about four times. Yeah, you did.
Didn't you? I kept changing. Sick of it. Yeah. Fuck that bro. All right. Yeah. We'll make
it work. We can figure it out. I need to know how good the voice chat is though, because
all of my time playing today, it's just come up saying VoIP, VoIP unable to connect or
something like that. VoIP offline or some shit. I've just had it contibuted. To be fair,
I think my internet is on the fucking fritz at the moment. So yeah, we can, we can figure
all of that out and then worst case scenario, if we can't figure that out, then there's
a villain arc. Yeah. There's a, there's a, there's a battle to be had. I've got a pro
gamer on my side. I know your two MMO legends. I've got a pro gamer. Who? No, he'll become,
he'll become known if you want to go down that road. He'll become known. Not me. A pro
gamer in what? In fucking everything he does. He knows life's everything. No. So he will,
he'll deal with it. I'll take him off his leash and go, go do it. But no, yeah, I keep
seeing that different factions are taking over different parts of the map and keeps
popping up and it's just cool, man. I like all that shit, bro. I think that's very fucking
cool. Yeah. I got my mount yesterday, so I'm happy with that. Now I'm bopping about on
that. That makes a big difference. That's a lot of fun. And what I like is that I've
got two mounts obviously cause I bought the silly edition cause I'm a knob. Um, well,
I thought it was going to be 60 quid anyway, so I was happy to pay the 65 quid and I got
a bear and a, and a wolf, which obviously I want the wolf cause you know, me and wolves
go way back, but they feel well different. Like the bear feels like a fucking bear and
the wolf feels like a more like a horse, but yeah, they, they feel different, which is,
which I didn't expect. They, they moved differently. They've the bear. I tried to tell. I imagine
if you played wow on console, I imagine the mounts would feel different, but on controller,
it just, I don't know if it's the haptic feedback or whatnot. It still feels different on. Well,
I know what you mean. Cause you could have a, um, like I've got a mountain that's a fucking
little rabbit. It moves very fast by its animation because it's tiny. But I've also got a mountain
that's a massive fucking murloc thing that moves very slow, but they move at the same
speed. It's just one looks like it's moving a lot quicker than the other. And it feels
like that at all. It's weird. It's the same with apex legends. They all move the same
speed, but it's there. Oh, yeah. But it don't feel like it caustic for slow. Um, yeah, right
now I love it. I'm very, very, very, very, very much looking forward to playing it tonight.
I cannot wait. Um, I've been thinking about it all day. Um, and yeah, I cannot wait to
on the same to be fair. I want to, cause we got, um, I've got a couple of things that
I need to do on wow in prep for raid. And I'm like, Oh, I can't be bothered. Cause I
want to play fucking new world brand, the new shiny thing. But I just, just nice because
then let's say I've got, I think, I think all my pals are playing on PS five, but the
fact that now I've got two, cause this never happens. I've got two pals that are playing
it. And I know one of them has already played PC. So they played it from start anyway. Um,
but this is, they played it before mounts were even a thing. So he played it long time
ago. Swimming never used to be a fucking thing. Exactly. Uh, and another guy who is
the arc guy who only plays arc. I know he's into it cause he's just fucking bought the
game and he wouldn't do that. Otherwise I've got you, which is always a go to, uh, he's
always there if need be. I'm trying to fucking wrangle Connor into it. Um, we can beat him
into it tomorrow. And then you've got, we've got all your mates. You've got your guild
mates and well, I'm hoping that I'll be able to pull cause just Connor, Connor, no one
from the guild really wants to play it, but I'm hoping that me and Connor will get a little
fucking thing going on their own in our own little company. Well, even like I say, even
Irish Connor, what did he say? What did he fucking say? What's the buttons company and
take over the world, which is fine. Yeah. Didn't I send you that? Is that what I sent
you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but it's just the fact that I will have people to play with,
which will make a massive difference. So I haven't always got to play. If it's just me
and you playing a game, if you're not interested in your plan, wow, then I've got no one. But
now I've got other people that will always be about, like, because there's, as I've said
multiple times on this podcast, my biggest problem with destiny too was, and we spoke
about it last week, I believe, like I can't do the good shit because I haven't got any
friends that play and I have to go into other people I don't know. And it's uncomfortable.
Yeah. The anxiety. Whereas now I could have fucking, I don't know how many people you
need for the dungeons and raids, cause there is a raid or multiple raids. I'm not sure
on this. Um, I don't know how many people you need for that, but I know that I've got
people I can go in with at least, and I'm not going to fucking feel like a cunt. So
that's good enough for me. And I just hope they keep adding and adding to it and the
expansions and it just goes on and on and on. And let's be, let's be honest, destiny
one, destiny two, I don't know about, well, cause I don't know, but I definitely know
ESO. I definitely know final fantasy online, all these games when they first come out as
MMOs, everyone's as shit because there's no content. There's not a lot to do. So look
at them now. ESO is fucking popping. Um, final fantasy online. Well, one of the biggest,
uh, I can't remember what the other one is. I'm not ignoring you by the way. I went on
the discord to get that mess up and everyone's talking about new world and the fucking chats.
I'm currently trying to gloss over it quick. Destiny one and destiny two. Once again, like
I know they've got their problems, but still a huge player base for a long period of time.
These games, because they're a game, the game is a service. Obviously you buy this, which
is a better thing. As you stated last week about phone and Liberty and you're a hundred
percent right. If it's free, stay away from them because their money is going to be locked
in. It's very difficult to enjoy a free play game without the, the pay to win aspect of
it. Exactly. So this is, uh, in my opinion, this is very early on in its life. It launched,
it had a million players. Everyone was going mad for it. I remember seeing as mongold fucking
as mongold. I remember fucking, I remember seeing as mongold fucking going mad about
see everyone just everywhere. And obviously I looked, Oh PC, I'll just never looked again.
And then it's had a couple of years and now it's back and it's had its big relaunch. And
I'm hoping the numbers will speak for themselves and they'll go, right. Brilliant. We've got
a hundred thousand players across all systems daily. Let's fucking pump the money into it.
You don't, you don't go through the effort of porting it over to console and then making
it feel so good as it does on console. Um, and then just stop there. Something else is
massive that is when it goes well, no one says anything, but when it goes bad, everyone's
talking about it. The launch was fantastic. I had no server queue and not one jittery
fucking zero issues. And I played it on the launch day and it was fucking swimming. And
like I say, it's one of them, you just don't talk about because it, it's not a problem.
It's a problem. The bad shit when it's a problem, everyone's like, it's fucking terrible.
Cause when you, when you sit there and you, you say all the good stuff, it just sounds
like you're sucking its dick. And a lot of people don't like that. They want to, they
want to hear the bad stuff. But it's, I mean, don't get me wrong. When I, when I first jumped
into it, I thought it was, it was a bit boring, but my MMO brain switched on and I went, every
fucking MMO is boring. When you first start playing it, that's what makes the end game
so much fun is that it's taking you on a journey of building your character up and lo and behold,
it only took a fucking hour and then boom, here's a, here's a load of fucking his, his
three or four different weapons with different skill trees and abilities that completely
change your play style and what you can do. See you later. Go and have some fun.
It took me a lot longer to realize. And I care to admit that you could change weapons
because I had, I had the sword and shield and I had that hatchet and I was running around
a field killing fucking zombies or whatever the fuck they are. And I was like, how come
he's got a shield and a gun? What the fuck's going on? And then I tried equipping another
weapon. I was like, Oh, I didn't know. I thought I was like tied into the sword shield hatchet
thing. All that does is put one, put two of your stats up to 50 straight away. I didn't
know that. I thought that was like a lock in. That was my class kind of job.
Well, that's, that's what I thought until, until looking into it and then, yeah, no,
it follows that final fantasy way of playing. And then like I say, you level, you level
them up passively or whatever weapons you have equipped. You level up passively as you
go. And it's, it's that, that, that burst of life at the beginning. And I just hope
that that, that life continues even, even if after however long we're not even playing
anymore, as long as that still stays because I'm not a massive fan of Amazon as a company.
Don't get me wrong. I have Amazon prime. Are you a massive fan of Blizzard? Not massively.
I'm not a massive fan of Ubisoft, but I like their games. But you couldn't. Well, not anymore.
We've spoke about it at, at length in that Amazon are trying to break into the gaming
world. I think a lot of industries, a lot of companies are now starting to see gaming
as an industry and the absolute powerhouse that it is. Like we've said before, it earns
more money than any other form of media combined. Gaming is a fucking force to be reckoned with.
So if you're looking for your next avenue to fucking make some big bucks and you have
the capability for it, gaming is number one. And that is exactly what Amazon's been trying
to do with fucking Amazon Luna, with getting different like deals with like Twitch drops
and blah, blah, blah. Like they're, they're, they're trying to break into that space.
And I feel like when new world was released, that was their fucking flagship for doing
that. And game itself was very good. But like you say, the end game stuff, it fell short.
So naturally you had shit loads of people playing it and then it all fucking dropped
down. And whilst we've said it before, very good for a game when you get that sort of
traction at the beginning. But if you ain't equipped to deal with that, then your game's
going to flop. Doesn't matter how fucking good it is, how much content it is, people
will reach the end of it and they will complain that there's nothing to do because they've
no life for a month. And that is just the sad thing that happens. It's good and bad.
And I feel like that's what happened. And releasing it to console is the resurgence
that it needs to really give it a fucking kick up the ass and make it a very good MMO.
Not a wow killer, not a fucking Final Fantasy killer. I think it's its own standalone MMO.
And I feel like it will do very well as long as they keep continuing what they're doing.
Yeah. I mean, there's no reason why it can't compete with Final Fantasy in terms of the
console player base because that's all they can do is Final Fantasy. So if a lot of people
are like either just playing Final Fantasy because they've got console and they want
to play an MMO or they're just playing Final Fantasy because they've played it for the
last 10 years and they'd like to play something else but haven't got PC. Now there's a natural
transition to if you wanted to, I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm just saying it's
an alternative. And if that alternative suits you better, because I like Final Fantasy Online.
As I say, if it had WoW's graphics or art style or even New World's art style, whatever,
like the monsters and the dragons and all that shit, the cool shit that I like, then
I think Final Fantasy Online would be fantastic. But it's not for me. And if there's other
people playing Final Fantasy that are like-minded and want that darker, grittier kind of art
style, then this is probably for them. So there's no reason it can't like people transition
from it. And I like Final Fantasy's attitude towards it anyway. They're not going to play
other shit, man. Come back if you want. We'll be here. And that's good. That's what I like
most about Final Fantasy. But yeah, I think, as I say, I think this is more like day one
for it and look back in 10 years and see what it looks like. And then you'll have a good
argument on whether it's successful or not.
It's a very exciting time to be a part of it because you, like you say, you get to experience
it almost from day one. I mean, especially for us, it is for fucking day one. Obviously
the people that have been playing it since beta, it isn't. But yeah, I'll be intrigued
to see if, yeah, in like five, 10 years time, if this game is still going. It's so difficult
to talk about it without sounding like you're fucking glazing it. Like when all the streamers
talk about Throne and Liberty, go, this is the best game ever, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. It's like, yeah, you're being paid to fucking say a lot of that. And you've got
to almost be careful with the shit that you see on New World because a lot of the stuff
that people review for it are sponsored by Amazon fucking to review it. And you think,
well, well, they've got you then, haven't they? You're not going to say anything completely
fucking terrible about this game. But from our very brief point of playing it compared
to other people so far, it's, it's very promising. Check back with us next week.
Check back with us in 10 years because as I said before, like I've said to you on, wow,
when you're just pulling out all your fucking sick mounts and fucking shit like that. I
want that. And I can't get that no more. I'm like, no, no, no, but I want that shit. So
now I'm excited to be essentially day one to be able to be there when this cool shit
happened and then you can't get that shit no more. I'm hoping to be that guy in five
years. We're like, I'll get a new mate to play it. Oh, where'd you get that? You can't
get that no more. That was like an exclusive raid in 2026. Yeah. That was just the one
time event that we, we, we, we a started and yeah, I want to, I want to be that loser.
That's what I want to be. Uh, and I hope, cause, cause I know, I know, and I agree,
I do jump from game to game, but there's never been an MMO like this other than Final Fantasy
Online on console. And I've always wanted to play it. Cause you can just grind and grind
and grind and yeah, Final Fantasy Online is great. And it's got the problems that I don't
like as I've said, but yeah, I'm jumping into a fucking 10, 15 year old MMO that I haven't
got nostalgia for and I'm having to get through all the shit to get to the good stuff. And
I don't even know where the good stuff is or what it is that makes it great. Um, whereas
now I'm starting from day one, I'm going to see all the bumps and scratches. I'm not saying
it's perfect. Of course I'm not, you know, it's not perfect at all. It's, it's got the
odd bit of jank. I say some of the animations are a bit shit. It's not perfect in any way,
shape or form, but I also, I'm not naive enough to understand that it will get better if they
want it to. Yeah. And I think there'd be silly not to. Yeah. It has, it has, it's, it's varying
flaws, but every, I feel like every game, every game does. Uh, also I think it's, it's
a decent one for us because for me personally, if new world isn't fantastic, I'll put it
down. I go fucking continue playing world of warcraft alongside it. Like I'm already
doing. Makes no issue to me whether it, whether it flops or it doesn't. And for yourself,
you're, you're looking for an MMO that you can, that you can play on the daily and you're
in that fortunate position where you don't have that yet. And I feel like because you
don't have that, it, it's fantastic if new world is that game, but also not the end of
the world if it isn't because you haven't fucking got the game. You haven't got that,
that consistent game yet. Anyway, it is terrible if it isn't, if there's no MMOs coming out
on console soon, because if it isn't, I, where's my MMO man. Give me satin. What I like, right?
Is cause I love, I played destiny two a lot as you know, but I can't just put, obviously
I just played destiny two pretty much solo anyway, but I couldn't just put destiny two
on and just grind out my mind in fucking ability. I can't, that's what I like. Like I can't,
I like grinding. I know not everyone does. I do. Uh, I can go and grind weapons, but
it's not really the same. You're trying to get drops. It's not that runescape feel, isn't
it? Let me, let me level up my fletching. None of the boys are on tonight. So I'll spend
tonight doing my login. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I like that. I like that. I know it's
a weird thing, but I like that and I want that. It's not weird at all. It's, it's why
it's in so many fucking games. So many, because it's just a, it's, it's, it's a grind. It's
the endorphin thing, isn't it? Every time you chop down a tree, every time you kill
someone in this game, it goes ping and something goes round and levels up a little bit and
you're just like, yes. And the best part about it. Yes. No fucking building. No, no. Oh my
God. There's no fucking building. That was the first thing I asked Irish Connor. So it
hasn't got any building in it. He said, no, you can buy houses that you have to pay tax
on and you can play stuff in them like on ESO, but there's no fucking building. And
it was the one thing I really, really, really hated about in Trouted. Cause I thought no
matter, no matter how good you make the building mechanics of something, it's so fucking boring,
especially when you make it mandatory as well to do half the shit you need to do in a game.
I ain't got the creativity for it. I haven't. I agree. I'm not interested in it because
then all that happens is even if you don't need to do it, like with in Trouted, you don't
really need to build. But when you then go and see all the shit that everyone else is
capable of building, you go all fucking hell, you're getting a way better experience than
me because I'm just thick as shit. Take that away. You fuck off back to Valheim. You want
to go and build something, go over there.
That is fucking in depth building shit. And there is like the support beams in and shit
bro. I needed a degree to be able to do that shit. Um, but yeah, just to watch something
go ping and go up and stuff. And it's just always something to be grinding. And you know,
as time goes on, I'm sure they'll add fucking more skills and weapons and all sorts of other
shit. Raise the level cap again, raise the level. That's just, that's it. And it's own
MMOs, you know, the next fucking update, we raise the level cap. Whoa. Yeah. More pings
going up.
65 or 70 or something like that. 60.
So when you get to fucking level 60 and then the next suspension, they raise the level
cap to 70. Oh yeah. 10 more levels. I mean, fuck all in reality, but you want it. You
want to fucking do it, didn't you?
And as long as the end game is fucking worth its salt, then, then you're all good pretty
much because you hit the max level and then that's where the game really begins or how
it should be.
But that's what I'm hoping they improve on because that's people's issue is all right.
The end game is there's no end game, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I'm hoping that is
where
the PVP is meant to be really good. Yeah. And that's what I'm hoping for. Get max level
and just start smacking shit. PVP. So yeah, that's that then. I like that Irish bird as
well. That pirate. She's cause fuck. Oh, Grace O'Malley. Yeah. I just like it because she's
Irish. She's cool. She doesn't give a fucking monkeys, bro. Right. Hi there. Sweet. We're
going to go and do the patron. Catch you next week to talk more about fucking. Oh no, don't
worry. Go on. No, no, no. I was just going to say we're going to play D and D tomorrow,
but that's for the patron people. See you later.