1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,040 I've got a special guest with us today. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Our Darryl guy. Bon Jono. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,880 Friend of the pod. Cunt nerds. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Now, I'm I'm excited for this episode, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 this patron episode, but at the same time, I'm nervous 6 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:19,360 because you are far more ruthless than anything. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,280 You look at that with them fucking eyes. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Fucking kill them. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,080 Come out of your mouth. 10 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:27,640 I'm scared. Cock. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,000 There's going to be very little gaming talk on this episode. 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,560 I already know it. 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,400 We're just going to see where we fucking roll with it. 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,480 Done all that shit. And we talked about games. 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Got that out of the way. Yeah. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,080 So here's the nice relax. 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,640 That's that's time for talk about whatever the fuck you want. 18 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Oh, you're all you pain bitches out there deserve this. 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Actually, I pay. 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,920 I know I'm going to start issuing refunds to you and call. 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,280 I get one pound twenty five back. 22 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,440 I mean, one hundred and twenty five because I pay shit ton of money. 23 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Well, into this episode, this episode. 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,520 You're right. What flavor are these Doritos? 25 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,240 They are. Oh, you fucking Bombay flavor. 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,440 And they kind of would like extra extra fire or something. 27 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Extra fire. Fiery hot. 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,840 They're nice going in. 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,480 And be fucking horrible coming out. 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,200 How is how is your first 31 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,280 podcast ever? 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,600 First one? Yeah, it was a podcast. 33 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Yeah, as I said on the episode, I've got a what's the buttons boner? 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,280 But because you pay extra, you can find out a little bit more. 35 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,800 As I've not only got a can of spicy, what's the button boner? 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,120 But I've got a what's the buttons fucking bump? 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,080 But plug right up my massive one as well. Huge. 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,800 And I went for a shit and didn't wipe my ass. 39 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 You can see you can see how any fucking idiot can set up a podcast. 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Oh, yeah. It's so easy. 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,720 It's so easy. Yeah, it's fucking. 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 I mean, I'm not going to lie. 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,280 We need to pay this guy more money. 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,680 There's a fucking shit care. 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,840 Thank you. Absolute shit. 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,480 This is actually 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 this is actually the best of the best. 48 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Believe it or not. 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Best of the best of the best of what? 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,120 In terms of microphones. 51 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Yeah. And interface and show up. Yeah. 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Yeah. Which is which is odd. 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,720 These microphones are ripped as well, aren't they? 54 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Mm hmm. Yeah, these are these are big boys. 55 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Don't be wrong. 56 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,640 You talk to them outside like that, they're no good. 57 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:28,320 But you talk to them here, which I like. 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,280 But yeah, that's boring anyway. So. 59 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Hit me with some knowledge. 60 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Did you know that when you die in the military, 61 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:47,240 that they we got they only they they carry you feet forward. 62 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Yeah. You know, that's knowledge. 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,320 There we go. Darrell Guy was in the army. 64 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Yep. Let's fucking let's get some shit out of that. 65 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Tap me off for some of that shit. 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,600 That'll be some interesting. 67 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,000 I do have to be careful because I have signed an official secret. 68 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,760 This is even a joke. Really? 69 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,680 Yeah. Yeah. When I left. 70 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Oh, my God. Let's talk about that then. 71 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,040 So, yeah, because I specialized, I joined as a military police officer. 72 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,960 Yeah. Still served as a military police officer, but 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,520 specialized into close protection. 74 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,040 Yeah. After a couple of years. 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,400 And then that was my role. So I looked after 76 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Her Majesty's ambassadors or you would call his majesty. 77 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,520 His majesty. Yeah. But I was in when. 78 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,600 So was you ever actually look at like looking after the Queen or was that just? 79 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,520 No, I never looked after the Queen, 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,800 but looked after Prince Charles, Duke of Kent. 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Well, like personally, or? Yeah. 82 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Because when they go to military 83 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:47,680 war zone or conflict, the police there at that time could only carry certain weapons. 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,800 So they can't carry fully automatic or they couldn't carry fully automatic weapons. 85 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,200 They weren't acclimatized to the heat. 86 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,200 They don't know that we've been in that country for, you know, weeks, if not months. 87 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,320 So we know all the different routes, the different vehicles. 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,320 So they just hand that shit over to us. 89 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,960 They. Yeah, I have to be careful. 90 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,960 I want to talk to you. 91 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,960 And you're like, really, we do double up with them, but they obviously don't really know. 92 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,960 They're not specialized in what we do. 93 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 We can carry grenades and smoke. 94 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,960 So like did you in terms of actually getting to protect like those high profile people, 95 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,960 did you ever actually get to speak to them and interact with them? 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Or was it just like you get in that car, stand behind the fucking car, makes one arm blows up. 97 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,960 You talk to him and let him know that the engine. 98 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 You've got to be so careful. 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,960 It all depends who it is and how long they're there for. 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,960 I looked after one 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Royal personality and they were only there for pretty much a day. 102 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,960 And I didn't really talk to them, but my whole job, it was only me. 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,960 So it was an IGB role, which is an individual IBG, which is an individual bodyguard. 104 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:04,960 And I was attached to them for a whole day in Iraq. 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:14,960 And yeah, it was fucking insane because their itinerary for that day is like boat, armor, personnel carrier, helicopter. 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,960 You know, so you're getting to do all that. 107 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,960 And because I know because I've been in country for a while and I know that military hardware, I know how to put a seatbelt on. 108 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,960 I know how to do this. 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,960 And whereas you get, you know, a police officer and they will know the fucking cat's key. 110 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,960 I will about an eight sided seatbelt in a blackhawk. 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,960 So, yeah, that's crazy. 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,960 You do talk to him. You can talk to him like that or you can stand in the background. 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,960 I talked to him for a little bit, but not overly because their itinerary was like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 They've got lots of those people hanging on. 115 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,960 So you're so you're basically there of so I'm a I'm a high profile person. 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,960 You're protecting me. 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,960 You are there for if a bullet's coming, you have to fucking get in between me and it. 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Yeah. 119 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:00,960 The bottom line of it. 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,960 No, no, no, no, you can do that. 121 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 The idea is split targets. 122 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:12,960 So when you are under fire, you you put them into a cover. 123 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,960 You move slightly away from that. 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,960 So you don't become one target as such. 125 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 There are obviously certain places where you can and can't do that. 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speak a little bit louder because I want everyone to this is very interesting. 127 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:30,960 Yes. And we try and split that target rather than make it one big target because one target is easy. 128 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Easy to two targets than after flicking between. 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,960 So there's a lot of different stuff around that. 130 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,960 How you can do that. 131 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:47,960 What you know, the biggest thing there is you always what if in such a military thing, there's such a very close protection related thing. 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:55,960 You always what if in you know, what if someone attacks us with us, you know, a small arms weapon in this area? 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Like, where is the nearest exit? 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Where is the nearest vehicle? 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,960 What if what if this happens? 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,960 What if that's locked? 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,960 What if that doesn't work? 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,960 What if you do you know, I mean, so your brain is you kind of get used to it. 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Start fucking hurts. 140 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Stressful. 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Yeah, man. 142 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Like your first week in theater, like because you don't know a lot of the setup, your brain is you're always on read. 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:24,960 You know, there's like they have like a triangle red, amber and green and you're you pretty much should be running at amber most of the time. 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 So I'll imagine something goes wrong. 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 You're fucked. 146 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,960 I've been in situations where it has gone wrong. 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,960 But your training and who you were with is is fucking key. 148 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Yeah, you're highly trained. 149 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:44,960 You before you even before you even become an operator, you're doing six months of training. 150 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,960 Yeah, you know, and that is all different types. 151 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:57,960 That's you in a suit driving in the middle of London to you in combat on the M25 getting extracted by a helicopter. 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,960 And they do do that. 153 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Yeah, they shut down part of the M25. 154 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:10,960 We go to like Heathrow and do play like playing and stuff like yes, we're in there with a lot of a lot of different people. 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,960 But obviously, we interact with many different agencies. 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,960 So so the I won't press you on it because I know I can't. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,960 So the the end the Asia and the stuff that you sign that says you can't talk about certain things. 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Is that certain things in terms of like because things have happened or is that just the operation as a whole? 159 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,960 There's aspects of it where you can't get that into public domain. 160 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Yeah, some of it's like sensitive like kit kit and equipment tactics. 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Yeah, that would be I mean, it probably won't be as sensitive now because I've been out what 13 years 14 years. 162 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,960 So yeah, that stuff probably would have been so crazy in it. 163 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:57,960 But there's also you know, I've been in the car with prime ministers and ambassadors talking about stuff. 164 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,960 So you hear certain things. 165 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:07,960 Yeah, you get to see like the you know, it's I mean, one thing I know is I don't I don't vote because I know 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,960 it doesn't matter what who you get in. 167 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,960 They've got a good and a bad job. 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,960 They've got to make really hard shit decisions. 169 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:22,960 And then I've got to make really easy, comfortable decisions and sitting in the backs of cars or being with them in meetings 170 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,960 where they're talking about this stuff. 171 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:30,960 There's a lot of pressure on these people and some of it is very time sensitive. 172 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:39,960 Yeah, it's I find it I find it so it's so fascinating because you're you're the only person that I have ever met 173 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,960 that is in that has been in that setting and is so open about it. 174 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:51,960 I've met people before they're in the army and that have that have served their country and done various things. 175 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,960 But everyone I've ever met that has done that doesn't like talking about it. 176 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:05,960 So obviously when when I first met you and then when we started talking about the personal stuff and our own lives and 177 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,960 that the fact that you're so open to talk about it just makes it so much more interesting. 178 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,960 And then all I ever do whenever you come up in conversation, it's the first thing I fucking beeline to because I feel like 179 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,960 everyone else finds it so fucking interesting as well because it's just a different I'm just in the in the sticks. 180 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,960 Little gamer that fucking works in vegetation. You know, I mean nothing bad's happening to me. 181 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:38,960 And then there's like fucking old Darrell's over here fucking around in Iraq and Somalia and led this entire entire different 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:47,960 life that I've seen on the telly but will never ever experience hopefully in my lifetime. 183 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,960 So I just find it so fascinating because it's there's so much shit going on. 184 00:10:53,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Yeah, I suppose some some lads and lasses find it hard to talk about because it maybe gives them like a hero mechanism, 185 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,960 you know, like they feel like if they're talking about it that they're automatically a hero. 186 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Yeah, I don't mind talking about it because it's fucking interesting. 187 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:19,960 I know as someone that's interested in a lot of other stuff as well when I hear you know my friend is he's in the police force 188 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,960 and he does count terrorism in there. 189 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:28,960 And I know I've done stuff that, you know, make that look really, really quite poor, you know, 190 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,960 make them look like they're serving hamburgers in McDonald's. 191 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,960 But I love hearing about it. You know, I'm interested in that. 192 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Like what is the inside scoop? Like what's happening? 193 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,960 Like tell me how they're like it's a different world. 194 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,960 And even though I used to be in that, yeah, I'm still interested. 195 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,960 I still love, you know, guns and how they work. 196 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,960 And I suppose that's a little bit nerdy in itself. 197 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,960 You know, if you understand the mechanics of a weapon, like how it it works intricately, 198 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,960 you you know when it goes wrong, why it's gone wrong and how to fix it fucking ASAP. 199 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Because if you can't, you've got a secondary weapon, which isn't as good. 200 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:16,960 So if you can understand that sort of side of it, same as mechanics of not literally the mechanics of a helicopter, 201 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,960 but the mechanics of like what type of helicopter, where should you approach from? 202 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,960 You know, because you can't always approach from the behind of a helicopter because of the rotor blades, but some you can. 203 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,960 I've seen videos of people getting fucking down by a helicopter. 204 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,960 And you think about it, if you're running to that, like it's in the middle of night, you know, 205 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:38,960 you called that helicopter in, it's flown in from, you don't like, they're not going to tell you what that helicopter is. 206 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,960 They're just telling you, yeah, fucking Halo is going to land at this grid, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 207 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,960 You run out to that helicopter. 208 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,960 If you don't know, like if you can't tell the difference in the dark when there's a like a brownout, 209 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,960 which is what all the dust and shit and because these countries aren't particularly not dusty, you won't. 210 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,960 You won't. You'll have to be like, what the fuck is going on? 211 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,960 You'll have to look, but you know, if you understand the mechanics like, oh yeah, that's like a chin-ergo. 212 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,960 Oh yeah, I know that that's a, you know, a Lynx helicopter. 213 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:14,960 You know, like in what door I'm going to approach from or where to look for the loady, where to look for the crewman. 214 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,960 And you're going to be banging straight in there. 215 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Whereas that's, I mean, that's the speciality of what we've done is we were so nerdy that we knew that sort of shit. 216 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 What type of boat are we going to get? 217 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Like how many seats are going to be in that boat? Who are you going to fucking tip out of that boat because you're going in it? 218 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,960 You got to be ballsy as well, man. 219 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Like, cause my rank was quite sort of low down, but we don't, you don't officially have a rank when you're on a tour like that. 220 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,960 You are just an operator that looks after someone that's fucking important. 221 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,960 So you will like, if he's, you're looking after a freestyle general, you are a freestyle general. 222 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:56,960 So you have got to have that the nuts, if you know, some captain says, oh, you're going to go in that boat and you're, you just turn around. 223 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,960 No brother, I'm getting in that boat. 224 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,960 He's like, no, no, you're not, you're, you're not assigned to that boat. 225 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,960 He's saying, look, look, fuck nuts, man. 226 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,960 This ain't happening for you. 227 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,960 You got two options here. 228 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,960 You let me in or I'll fucking throw you out. 229 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,960 Yeah. 230 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,960 That's it. 231 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,960 And then that's, that's, that's, that's the thing you've got to have. 232 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,960 So, but, you know, so that's where I get my ballsiness from and my, yeah, my, my outwards sort of characteristics like that. 233 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,960 I've got to be, I've got to dominate. 234 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,960 I've got to let people know that this is the fucking school. 235 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Because if what happens, if people wouldn't just like part of the way, some people do, they know you are, they know what you represent. 236 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:40,960 And they can tell by the kit that I wear and the weapons that have, you're like, fuck, do you know what I mean? 237 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,960 I'm not going to fuck around with this guy because he's going to tear me a new one. 238 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Specifically, you just go, yeah, all right. 239 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,960 You just can't tell the account for the general or you tell someone. 240 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,960 And that visit then becomes a block on their, on their record. 241 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,960 You know, that official or that person you're looking after is going there for a reason. 242 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,960 If he's going to be inhibited, someone's going to get a ball. 243 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Yeah. 244 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 They can fucking heads are going to roll. 245 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Yeah. But you obviously get those people that they take. 246 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Yeah. They think that, oh yeah, this is my setup and I'm going to run it. 247 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,960 You ain't fucking intervening, cunt. 248 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Listen, mate, this might be your train set, but I'm the fucking fat controller. 249 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Get the fuck out of the way and let me on the train. 250 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,960 I just think it's crazy, man. 251 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Yes. It's so fucking buzzing. 252 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Are we still good? 253 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,960 Yeah, I'm still good. 254 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Yeah. All right. 255 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,960 It's just, I could never imagine being in that sort of environment, 256 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,960 but at the same time, I could also imagine thriving in that environment. 257 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Yeah, definitely. 258 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,960 That makes sense. 259 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Yeah. I mean, that camaraderie and, and, and I mean, I'd be getting migraines every fucking five minutes. 260 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,960 I mean, I can't, I can't imagine that if you're in the middle of an operation, I got to go stop. 261 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,960 I'm blind. 262 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,960 I can't see. 263 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why sickness in the army has seen as weak, like, because you can't do your mission. 264 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,960 If you aren't doing your mission, then you're fucking no use to us. 265 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,960 Yeah. 266 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,960 But yeah, that you totally, well, I think you thrive or die. 267 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,960 And then it's one of the things, you know, he who hesitates is lost. 268 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,960 So you've got hesitation. 269 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,960 You're really no good to us. 270 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Do you ever, do you ever think back for your, for your military career to where you are now and think that, 271 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,960 like, has there ever been points where you should have been dead? 272 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Oh, yeah, probably. 273 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Yeah. 274 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Once or twice, maybe three or four times. 275 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Yeah, I shouldn't have fucking. 276 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,960 No, no, no. It's not like it's, it's me thinking about on those scenarios. 277 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Yeah. 278 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,960 I've done a lot and I've been under contact, which means like shot out or blown up multiple, multiple times. 279 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Close, but probably the first time, my first tour, we was walking along with a general. 280 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:16,960 We were with a company of infantrymen and we were just going out on a normal patrol of a certain area. 281 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:22,960 And we saw a car full of Iraqis drive past us. But you know what? 282 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Your combat indicators like switch straight on. 283 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,960 They're all looking at us. The car was moving slowly. 284 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,960 It's a normal like it's not as a red flag. 285 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Yeah. You start thinking like, what the fuck's going on? 286 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:42,960 So instinct then tell like we we talk on the PRR, which is a personal radio. 287 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,960 You're always talking, always, you know, like, are you lads? Yeah. Just recognize this car. 288 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Just walk, you know, gone past us at slow speed, obviously like dicking ass, which means looking at you. 289 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Like just watch out for car. 290 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Why? Toyota, Corolla, whatever it is, you know, formals, military age. 291 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:11,960 And then probably about two minutes later from like a balcony on our sort of right hand side. 292 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Go on, carry on. 293 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Yeah, probably set the scene a little bit. So we got in. 294 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:21,960 We got out the back of her. So we were originally in an armored personnel carrier, warrior tank. 295 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,960 And then we were patrolling. We were quite near them. 296 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:33,960 The the warriors. And then all of a sudden we just saw like a spray come through us, like all the dust. 297 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Come through and you obviously did the gunshots. 298 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,960 We're not that far away. So you just straight through the middle of us. 299 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Yeah, there's three of us on the ground with the principal, like three operators, one principal and a multiple of infantrymen. 300 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:57,960 And this just missed us probably by three quarters of a meter. 301 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,960 Just straight through the middle of us. 302 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:05,960 Just they're just taking a pot shot. And then for us, our training just kicks in. 303 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:11,960 We just go to cover, try and target recognition, try and lay some rounds down, see what we can get. 304 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Obviously we're professionals. We're not just going to start like a surprise. 305 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,960 We'll be able to target recognition, but we obviously, but they've gone pretty quick. 306 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960 It was just a shoot and scoot for them. 307 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,960 And then it's all about like follow up. Like what are they going to do to follow up? 308 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960 How are we going to do it? 309 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,960 That moves pretty quick. 310 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,960 That's like less than 10 seconds before we figured it out. 311 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:42,960 It's like, right, throw some smoke, throw some frost, get back to the warrior, pop the boss in there, make sure no one's bleeding out. 312 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,960 And then, yeah, so that's one time, which sets you up. 313 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,960 I think the first time we were sort of like, took us a little bit of time before we started laughing. 314 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Second time, then it's giggles everywhere. 315 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,960 No, everyone's as it's happening. Oh, really? 316 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Yeah, everyone's like, because you get used to that. 317 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:09,960 Like the first time for me was like sort of rush of adrenaline, like an excitement and then like do your job, like get the boss in there, like check him over. 318 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Like, have you bleeding anywhere? 319 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Because they don't know as well. 320 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Sometimes when you've been hit, sometimes you don't know you've been hit or not, the adrenaline. 321 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960 So we're like, he's like, fuck off, get off me. 322 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,960 And you're trying to rummage around like a freestyle general. 323 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,960 Like, and he's like, get off me. I know, because you don't know if you've been hit and we're looking for blood and blah, blah, blah. 324 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,960 Yeah. 325 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960 You know, adrenaline starts to calm down. 326 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Anyone's like, kill that guy. 327 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Everyone's laughing and giggling. 328 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960 A bunch of schoolgirls. 329 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:46,960 But the more you get into that, the more you sort of then recognise the, not to say that, you know, you don't see on Black Hawk down there, they're laughing and giggling, but they were taking hits. 330 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,960 They were taking massive casualties and stuff like that. 331 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,960 That if that's the case, yeah, you'd definitely be like not doing it. 332 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,960 But afterwards, you would probably find that dark humour starts ripping through blokes. 333 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,960 You know, they were taking a piss of, you even see it in those types of films where they're, you know, blown up. 334 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,960 But I feel like that's a, that feels like a decent way to be able to deal with it. 335 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:21,960 Otherwise, I feel like if you don't see some kind of other side opposed to just absolute like sorrow, then surely that shit will just consume you. 336 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Yeah, I think it's a good, it's a good part of the mental health healing stage. 337 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Yeah. 338 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Because, I mean, I don't suffer with PTSD and not in the slightest. 339 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,960 I mean, I'll talk to you about anything online in more detail with specifics. 340 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:49,960 But I think that was the key to was with a bunch of lads that understand exactly, know what's going on and talk and shoot the shit and get it out of your system, not let it build up. 341 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:56,960 And again, that's probably why I think you find probably a lot of infantrymen that have been in those sort of contacts. 342 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,960 They don't talk about, don't have, they probably have a laugh, but they don't talk about a little bit more in detail. 343 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,960 Yeah. 344 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Never gets out of their system, you know, and then they go off the rails wherever, however that is. 345 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 346 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Because I can, I can see why. 347 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:19,960 Because obviously what we do now, obviously I know what you do is, is we're of the same industry in some respect. 348 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:26,960 But where you're a tree climber and I don't go anywhere near climbing trees, but obviously you do tree works and things like that. 349 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,960 But we're of that, that dangerous scope. 350 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,960 So where you're fucking climbing trees right next to power lines. 351 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:42,960 I know I'm not doing it at the moment, but the previous job we were fucking crossing live train tracks every day and dealing with train movements and shit like that. 352 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:55,960 And a lot of the stuff that we were doing at times was dangerous and of a, if you do something wrong, especially if you're dealing with like moving trains, chances are you're going to get hit and you'll die. 353 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Yeah. 354 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:11,960 And I must admit the couple of times where, where something almost goes wrong or like one time when a train went past me and I'm talking like less than a foot, it's going past me like 60 mile an hour. 355 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,960 And you think like if I slip off of what I'm sitting on now, I'm, I'm, I'm dead. 356 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 I'm just gone. 357 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,960 But you find it almost funny when it's done, but not funny. 358 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,960 The giggle comes out without wanting it to. 359 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Yeah. 360 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,960 That makes sense. 361 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Like that train fucking come beaming past me and there was nowhere for me to go. 362 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 But I was fine as long as I fucking stayed tucked in. 363 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,960 But while it's passing me, there's a little giggle coming out of me involuntarily. 364 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,960 But it's like, I know that if I slip here, I'm dead, but at the same time, it's just funny. 365 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960 I don't, I don't know how you, I don't know how you explain it. 366 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Yeah, I suppose it's a release of just a mechanism. 367 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,960 But it's the same like when I hit my leg with a chainsaw, I didn't do anything to my leg, but fucking, but enough to tear the trousers. 368 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:08,960 And again, it's like, like you go fucking hell and I have a little bit of a laugh over that. And it's like, that's not funny. I've just hit my leg with a fucking running chainsaw. 369 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:16,960 But at the same time, I'm seeing that as, as humorous or Connor being brained by a tree branch and then being put in a coma. 370 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Hilarious. 371 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Yeah. 372 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,960 That is absolutely hilarious. 373 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 He's not dead, so it's fine, but that is hilarious. 374 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Yeah, exactly. 375 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960 And we get to say to piss out of him. 376 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Yeah. 377 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,960 Yeah. And that's another thing is not only you finding it funny, but other people will find it funny and rip you for it as well. 378 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,960 All the things that you, you know, like that's a serious situation. Jesus Christ, Daryl, you nearly got shot by a bullet. 379 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Someone says like, did you, did you shoot your pants, Daryl? Did you get a bit of brown there, lad? 380 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Were you checking the boss to see if he's put his pants on? Has he got a big cock? 381 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,960 You know, again, that's their way of like interacting with you, I suppose, after a fact of like my mate has nearly died. 382 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Yeah. 383 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,960 We've nearly died together. 384 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:04,960 But I feel like there's, there's an underlying seriousness that you can switch on when you need to with a situation. 385 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Like, if you, you, if say you and me are working together and we're, we're felling a load of trees and everything's going fine, but then tree nearly fucking crushes me. 386 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Chances are we're going to find the funny side of it. 387 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:32,960 But I feel like if in that moment I were to turn around and not find it funny and be serious, we're of that friendship group where you can also entertain that. 388 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Yeah. 389 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,960 That makes sense. Like if I'm like, no, that was too much for me. 390 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:45,960 I'm like being deadly serious, then that can be reciprocated as well, which I feel like is the best sort of coping mechanism when you've got a group of friends where we can take the piss. 391 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:52,960 But at the same time, when, when it, when for one person is becoming a bit much, we can all fucking stop that. 392 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Yeah. I mean, that's a massive sign of like emotional. 393 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 I'm gonna try and think of emotional maturity. 394 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Like you can go from many different situations and understand someone else's predicament as well. 395 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:12,960 You can put yourself yourself in, because there'll be a time like, you know, you might not be serious at that specific time because it hit you. 396 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960 And then the lads will be like, oh, hey mate, you're all right. 397 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,960 You know, oh yeah, not too bad. 398 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,960 And then two weeks later, fucking shit his pants. 399 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,960 See him get all serious. 400 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,960 But again, yeah, you know, you it's yeah, very, very similar type. 401 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,960 I hear from a lot of people. 402 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:38,960 I haven't worked for many people that have come from ex military in the tree business, but I'm sure there are frigging hundreds. 403 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Yeah. It's that thing, isn't it? Of danger, you know, working at height with a chainsaw. 404 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:52,960 There's also with, with it, there's a thing where you are mentally challenging yourself as well. 405 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960 And yeah, figuring situations out. 406 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Because that's again, is like a sign of a good operator is they are walking into sometimes a situation where they've never been there before or never been in that. 407 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,960 But how are they figuring it out? 408 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960 What are they thinking about? 409 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,960 And if you get someone that's just, you know, we've worked with many a moron. 410 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Yeah. You know, they've been in the business, whatever, say for one, one guy was in six years and the guy's an absolute fucking terror. 411 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960 I'll deal with that. 412 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960 Didn't know what the fuck he was doing. 413 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,960 But should do. 414 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,960 And again, just not mature. 415 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Just just a shit state. 416 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,960 And then someone that comes in that like wants to, wants to have a laugh, you know, no different. 417 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:39,960 I'm still having a laugh, but take stuff seriously, like cool under pressure. 418 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:46,960 You know, I've been there and I've done, and I think the military was a massive part of that for me. 419 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Because I was kind of mature, immature before that. 420 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960 That's because I didn't probably have that much responsibility. 421 00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:02,960 Then all of a sudden you get to carry a live weapon and people are relying on you and you can be immature about that all day long. 422 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,960 And that's just a normal. 423 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,960 That's just a shit soldier. 424 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,960 Yeah. 425 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,960 And then you get later on, you go through a bit more military experience and you get that exactly the same. 426 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:19,960 A guy that is fucking hilarious, mental, mental, but absolutely outstanding professional. 427 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,960 You know, as soon as the shit hits a fan, you know, we could have a laugh and joke all day long. 428 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,960 But you know, if someone got hit by a chainsaw, there's a couple of blokes in that team that would just be up for the task. 429 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,960 They'd be like, right. Yeah. 430 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,960 Fuck. Yeah. 431 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Stop that bleeding. 432 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Put a tourniquet on. 433 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960 You know, they would know because they've done some training. 434 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:44,960 They're absolutely efficient at what they do and they're taking that moment seriously and mature and they know what to do. 435 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:51,960 And yeah, that's why I like that's probably why I moved moved companies because I wanted to be in that environment. 436 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,960 I was going to say that because I know I know exactly what you mean. 437 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:02,960 People like Connor, for example, who is in my gang, I work with him every single day. 438 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,960 I know that if shit hits the fan, something happens. 439 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,960 I mean, the likelihood of something happening is so slim. 440 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960 At the end of the day, we're working with strimmers and hedge cutters for most of the time. 441 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,960 We're not doing anything nearly as dangerous as we used to be doing. 442 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960 But there's still the possibility there. 443 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:24,960 And because we're good at what we do, we normally get put on the stuff that is a little bit more high tech and requires more more thought process. 444 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,960 But I know that if something goes wrong, I 100 percent rely on Connor. 445 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,960 Anything goes wrong if I've injured myself, if fucking I need to know something, whatever's happening. 446 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,960 I know that Geyser right there. 447 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,960 My life's in his hands. 448 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,960 I feel absolutely comfortable with that. 449 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,960 And I'm sure vice versa. 450 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,960 That's reciprocated. 451 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:47,960 But there is definitely people that I work with where I think if something fucking happens here, you are useless to me. 452 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960 I'm like I'm looking after you. 453 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 And that's solely what's going on here. 454 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,960 There ain't no one fucking looking after me. 455 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,960 I've got to look after myself here. 456 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,960 And that that is kind of at one on one point. 457 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,960 I like that because it makes you feel like a bigger person because I'm the only one here that fucking knows what's going on. 458 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:16,960 But at the same time, it's so scary because it's like if something happens to me, no one unless I can help myself, no one knows what to fucking do here to help me. 459 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,960 Yeah. 460 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:25,960 And surely that must also revolve around the military with like like you say, immature people. 461 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:35,960 And there must be thousands of people that that that go to like go to boot camps and stuff like that where they're just dicks. 462 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,960 You know, I mean, like the guys that kind of give it where because I would imagine you get screamed at a lot. 463 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 A lot of you you're getting fucking a lot of people. 464 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960 It's probably a misconception. 465 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,960 It's you reckon. 466 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Yeah, there's you do when you go through your training. 467 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Yeah, they're trying to whip you into shape and get you working as a body of men. 468 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,960 And there's certain criteria they need to get through and change you. 469 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,960 But I think the more professional you get, the more specialized you go. 470 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,960 As I say, like I wasn't in the infantry, so I didn't need shouting out that much. 471 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960 I've done my basic training. 472 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960 That's where you get a lot of shit. 473 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,960 You know, you get fucking a show parade. 474 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:22,960 You've done wrong. So then for listeners, show parade is say, well, let's say my situation is I never got show paraded pretty much 475 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,960 around my whole of my basic training because I was fucking top banana, polished, squared away, absolute model of a soldier. 476 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,960 And then I had this corporate corporal who was just a fucking asshole. 477 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960 He wanted he wanted a piece of me. 478 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960 He wanted he was like, this guy's too good. 479 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,960 I need to fucking bring him down a peg. 480 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,960 So apparently one morning I went off and hadn't made my bed. 481 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,960 And rightly so. I hadn't made my bed. 482 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,960 But you're not meant to get inspected until you come back from breakfast, which is when I was going to make my bed. 483 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,960 He said, right, show parade every night this week at seven o'clock with your bed space outside. 484 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:08,960 So that means I have to take my whole fucking bed space out into the courtyard lockers and everything, everything, absolutely fucking everything. 485 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Bed and show your bed made. Yeah. 486 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,960 So I've done that fucking every night a week for a weekday at seven o'clock. 487 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,960 One night it was his turn to be like duty corporal duty duty. 488 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960 So I had him. I feel so it was a Wednesday night. 489 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Wednesday night I went outside seven o'clock, come out. 490 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960 It went, yeah, show parade again at fucking half past seven. 491 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960 So I had to take all my shit back in. 492 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Come back out of seven. Oh, well, you had half an hour just fucking. 493 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Yeah, just moving my stuff. What happens if you just say fuck off? 494 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960 Oh, my. Yeah, you don't want to say fuck off. 495 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,960 What can they actually do other than kick you out? What? They just go down like disciplinary routes. 496 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960 But yeah, the thing about can they do anything physical, though? 497 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960 They can't just fucking hit you. Can I? No, no, not anymore. 498 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,960 No, I mean, no, no, no. 499 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960 Off the books that they can slap you about. 500 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Oh, I've seen it. Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, it did happen. 501 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,960 Yeah. But yeah, I'm not going to get. It's not supposed to happen. 502 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,960 Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's such a bad thing either. 503 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,960 Yeah. If you can't take a punch, then what chance the fuck have you got taking a bullet? 504 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 Yeah. Like you got to think you, you know, you got to be in that right mind space. 505 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,960 Like and that's where I was. I found training a lot easier because my head was in that space of, you know, 506 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,960 I was expecting to get fucking based in beating up and all the rest of it, 507 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,960 because that's what makes a soldier. You can't just be soft. 508 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960 You've got to take a few digs in life. Yeah. 509 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,960 So I back to the show. So yeah, I got show paraded every 30 minutes, 510 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960 probably until one o'clock in the morning. And it was raining as well. 511 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Imagine that. So now I've got a wet bed. I've got wet shit everywhere. 512 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:57,960 It's just fucking nightmare. But I just remember looking at a brick like for pretty much that whole entire time. 513 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,960 Just like you won't break me, cunts. You ain't never going to fucking nothing. 514 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,960 I'm just standing out in the rain. Ain't fucking mad to me. 515 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,960 So yeah, I don't know kind of where we skipped off track or where we were going on that line. 516 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,960 But yeah, you know, you will. I think that's where I realised that I was a mature person. 517 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,960 So like going into soldiery, I was going to be I was going to be late. 518 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960 I was going to be the best at work. 519 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,960 Sort of like once you realise that they like there are dickheads in the military, 520 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:38,960 but also the shit that I'm forcibly being put through is almost like almost like for your own good in the longevity of things. 521 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960 Exactly. That's just a building block of what's to come. 522 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960 You know, you go like, right, get get your shit out of here. 523 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Put it in the fucking soaking rain right now. Put it back in half an hour. 524 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:56,960 I want it fucking back out there. I suppose in the grand scheme of things, you've had to do that for seven days a week. 525 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:05,960 But when you're when you're frosted into fucking a war zone, that's I mean, that's so minutely nothing. 526 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Yeah, exactly. And the more you want to specialise that more that that shit goes away, but they put pressure in our areas. 527 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:20,960 So as I said, it's just a building block of or a byproduct of what you're going to be in the future. 528 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:28,960 You know, if you are willing to fucking do that every night of the week and still find a finance, still be like, no, man, you ain't got more fucking. 529 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960 I've got you. I'm living in your if you feel you had to do that. 530 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,960 I'm living in your head. Yeah, I've pissed you off. I've fucking got you. Yeah. 531 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,960 So doing this to me, if I'm just courteous and whatever, I've got you wrapped up. 532 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,960 And then, yes, that just put me in good stead for when I'd done more. 533 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:53,960 You know, it is it is fucking hard when you specialise, but you've got to you know, many a time I just for like six o'clock in the morning 534 00:35:53,960 --> 00:36:01,960 and you're running through an ice lake like smash like fucking I think that's where I got one of my worst injuries is I smashed my leg. 535 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,960 I was going for a tank pond, which was it was January and that that pond was frozen solid. 536 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:13,960 They smashed out like frost to run through. I hit my fucking shin and it was probably early on as well. 537 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,960 I think it was only like a couple of weeks in and it was fucking swelled up. 538 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,960 It was horrible. And to run on it was like pain. It was luckily it wasn't like a break or anything, but it just niggles. 539 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Those things niggle because you're constantly doing stuff. But you're in your head then you're like, oh, fucking hell, this is hard. 540 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,960 I've got to get up again tomorrow. And we weren't going to bed till late. 541 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,960 And like the training style is like get dressed in this, get dressed in that, get dressed in this, get dressed in that. 542 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,960 We're going to go here and it's classroom based. It's practical based. It's classroom based. It's practical. 543 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,960 It's physical, you know, just because you've done your PT for the morning. It ain't over. 544 00:36:49,960 --> 00:37:00,960 If you went on the range and you made an error, say, you know, you're you didn't pull your you're doing a transition drill from like your long weapon. 545 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,960 So a machine gun into a pistol and something didn't quite go right for you. 546 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,960 You know, this fucking tank hill was called and it's probably about 70 meters length. 547 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:17,960 But the gradient on it was a bastard. And you're going for key, probably carrying an extra 10 kilos to 14 kilos worth of kit. 548 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,960 You got run up and down that, you know, so the fears weren't over in the morning. 549 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,960 So if you were fucked to fizz in the morning, like you're thinking, then you ain't got no hope. 550 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,960 But you just got to take it one step at a time. You know, you've probably seen a lot of stuff like on on TV of like buds, which is, you know, the SEALS version of stuff. 551 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,960 And they try and break you in hell week. Yeah. Well, I saw I saw a geezer that they put him on. 552 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,960 They all had to do some massive fucking run and he broke his legs just running. Yeah. 553 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:55,960 He's like, yeah, just broke his legs. But they he he went down and they tried their like best screaming and everything to get back up. 554 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960 And he and he did. But then just went straight back down again. 555 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:06,960 And then, yeah, like had to be taken away and he never is it called passing out or whatever that that thing that they would do. 556 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,960 I think it was for SAS. Oh, yeah. They they call that backscratching frost and rollback. 557 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,960 Yeah, I think it was for the Green Beret. Oh, Marine Commando. Yeah. 558 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:22,960 So I'm a Marine Commando. Yeah. And yeah, when they like took him away and the defender and then, yeah, fucking broken both of his legs. 559 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,960 Jack Wagon. What the fuck? He's been ran to the point his legs have broken. 560 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:38,960 Yeah. The fact that you as a human being having now someone who who is an amateur runner, I could never imagine running my legs to a point where they are. 561 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,960 They have broken. Yeah. Because of just running like that is mental. Yeah. 562 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:52,960 But that's the thing. He probably weren't just running. You know, the guys doing like carrying load. Yeah. Yeah. He's jumping. He's doing a lot of assault courses. 563 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,960 So, yes, that's that's where it comes from. And and also people are so cruel that they made him run. 564 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,960 But I don't know. There's a lot of people out there that just like fanny about. They just use that as an excuse. Oh, my leg hurts. 565 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:14,960 No fucking until they, you know, and that's that's no fault of their own. They've got to be they'll take that to a limit to fucking getting a getting a getting a Jack Wagon. 566 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,960 But they want to train you in. They don't want to train you out. It's not like any old days. They want to train people in because because of numbers and it looks bad on them as well. 567 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:29,960 So they try and train you in. But they don't know, you know, until the doctor is like, yeah, you know, the guy's got broken leg and then I'll write a fucking that you would see the edge. 568 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,960 You probably might not seen it in the back screen back scenes, but they would be like, yeah, mate, OK, we're going to roll you back to this group. 569 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,960 And if you went back and they would not so much take it easy on you about that, have a bit more respect. 570 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,960 They're like, yeah, like he's a fucking broke his legs, basically. Yeah. Yeah. He's a geezer. 571 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:52,960 If he passes out, he's the sort of bloke on a work with. Yeah. Because that is prepared to go to the limits of literally breaking his body. 572 00:39:52,960 --> 00:40:04,960 Yeah. And do this. And you can't like sometimes that is you can't help that shit. And I knew a top bloke, absolute legend, artists, artists, 10 men went, went first selection to to S.A.S. 573 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,960 selection. In fact, no, sorry, went S.B.S. selection. Same thing these days. 574 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:17,960 He was doing a night now. You would you just for this guy would just piss it. Rolled his rolled his ankle on a stone, snaps his ankle, geezers out. 575 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:25,960 And you would have you would have put your mortgage and your mom and your girlfriend and fucking dogs and everything on him passing it without a doubt. 576 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,960 But yeah, it will get you. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, you can't you can't help that sort of thing. 577 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:40,960 But, you know, at the same time, they'll be they'll be pushing you fucking hard because that's what they want. Yeah. 578 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:48,960 And that's what you know, that's what makes when we go out working and some days you have it easy, then you're like, yes, a 10 a.m. 579 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:55,960 finish for you guys anyway nowadays. But yeah, like, like, you know, we've done that, PJ. 580 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:02,960 Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to sniffle and cry. I'm working till six. And I was just doing it as a bit of a favor as well. 581 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,960 But you put in a fucking day's graft. Yeah, it was a shift. You wouldn't trust anyone to do that with works at the firm. 582 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,960 You know, they'll be fucked by you. They'll be on their phone at half past 10. 583 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,960 What are you doing? You can't come on. You can't get moving. Yeah. You're working solidly for fucking 10, 12 hours to get that done. 584 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,960 So that's what they're looking for. And that's what as a team player, we're all looking for, isn't it? 585 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:30,960 Like, I'm looking to people. One, I can I can work with. Yeah, I can work with me. 586 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,960 And two, that or three, that they can fucking dig out when it's needed to go out. 587 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:46,960 Yeah, because it is weird how you get to a point where because I feel like before I started getting myself into shape and taking it more seriously 588 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:55,960 than previous when I was fucking 18 and a half stone and diet was terrible and attitude was quite poor. 589 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:03,960 Doing that that hard work was like my attitude towards it was I can't be asked. I don't want to do this. 590 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,960 But whereas now I'm not perfect, but it is a hard day. It's a hard day. 591 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:15,960 If we've got to do a load of shit, I almost want to fucking do that because I'm trying to look after myself. 592 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960 So when I see it as a beneficial thing of, right, I've got a graft of a day. 593 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Let's fucking have it because it's going to benefit my body to do that. 594 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:30,960 And it's it's it's nice when you work with other people who are who are of the same mindset as that, 595 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:37,960 because, like you say, we've both been in positions where we've worked with teams where some people are like that, 596 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,960 and the rest of the team are just fucking useless and not interested at all in doing any of that, 597 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,960 which I feel like is is that sort of resonates throughout anything that you do in life. 598 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,960 If you're if you're doing anything with anyone and they're putting in fucking a quarter of the effort that you're putting in, 599 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,960 it just makes it so much more fucking difficult with everything that you're doing. 600 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,960 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you just. 601 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 It's just crazy. Yeah. 602 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,960 As you were telling, I just remember another story. 603 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:13,960 It's not like overly overly funny, but it's just like the degree of fucking pain that you go through. 604 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,960 I remember we was we've been out with a boss for I think like five, six days solid, 605 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:27,960 like doing some ops, border ops and visiting separate people. 606 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:37,960 And there's this fucking helicopter rocks up and it's an old like fucking Wessex type helicopter seeking it was. 607 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,960 And we were fucking uncomfortable anyway. 608 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,960 We've been out in the sand everywhere, up your fucking shit pipe, down your bed. 609 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,960 It is fucking like your skin saw. Yeah, shit. 610 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,960 And we're like, oh, yeah, thank God we've got a fucking helicopter. 611 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960 We're going to go back on rather than in the back. 612 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960 We're like I'm a personnel carrier. 613 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:06,960 But we knew there was always going to be some pain with this helicopter because the exhaust port is right above the rotor, 614 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,960 which is right above the door. So it blows in fucking hot air. Right. 615 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,960 So that we were thinking like, fuck, it's going to be a bit of a painful journey. 616 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:21,960 I'm but yeah, not that bad. Anyway, we didn't realize is this helicopter have been out because it was a it was a Navy helicopter with Marines in it. 617 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:28,960 So they've been out doing they do they go out no matter fucking what hats off to the Navy hats off to the Marines. 618 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960 They will they will go out in all sorts of weather. 619 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,960 And they'd been out a long, long time. Multiple ops refueling picked us up. 620 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,960 And you get into the back of this thing and it was fucking red. 621 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,960 It was hotter inside the helicopter than it was out. And it's Iraq in summertime. 622 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,960 Yeah. And they got these little canvas seats. 623 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960 So it's like a metal bench. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 624 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960 Yeah. You know, like and then it's got like string rope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 625 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,960 Through these fucking little seats. 626 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:05,960 But what you don't realize until about fucking 10 minutes in is the the little eyelets that these ropes. 627 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960 Yeah. Are fucking roasting. 628 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,960 They've got the exhaust port going into it. And I was sat door front as well. 629 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Yeah. Like I'm right. First one. 630 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,960 Oh, sorry. Last last in first out. So I'm right by that fucking exhaust port. 631 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,960 It's tearing down on me. And it fucking hurt. 632 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,960 It was about two hour trip in this fucking helicopter, man. Yeah. 633 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,960 And yeah, we just just agony. And I knew that it was fucking painful when I looked at my mate. 634 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,960 And I just lifted up my ass cheek and I said, oh, it's like that. 635 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,960 And he was like, yeah, because he's fucking loud as well. Yeah. 636 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,960 And he was like, yes, fucking burning. Anyway, we we got back to the room. 637 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,960 I dropped the boss off, got back to the room and I whipped down my trousers and had a little eyelet burns on my ass. 638 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,960 All down by fucking legs across there and up my ass. Yeah. 639 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,960 And I just bent over and looking at and he's like looking at my ass and I was looking at his ass. 640 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,960 And we're just like, fuck it. That's fucking new. I've never experienced that before. 641 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,960 He's like fucking terrible. It's like, yeah, but so bad. 642 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,960 I was like, do you know what your ass on me? 643 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,960 And he's like, well, obviously you don't. 644 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:25,960 That is fantastic. So, yeah, I mean, there are things, you know, you can't laugh about that and be prepared for all that sort of shit. 645 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,960 What design flaw, though, let's fucking put the exhaust straight back into that shit. 646 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,960 That thing was designed for the Falklands. You know, I mean, we had a kid that was there, donkeys fucking. 647 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,960 Yes. And yeah. But obviously we can't afford to go and buy a new helicopter. 648 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,960 Yeah. I just use what they've got. And yeah, it's the only experiences as well that you go through in the tree world. 649 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,960 But that's where you make a mate for life. 650 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,960 Like there's no one else that will kind of get that unless they've experienced that. 651 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,960 But you go into, you know, meet up with him or go to a pub with him or whatever it's going to do. 652 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960 And those are the things you'd be like, you know, that was a fucking hard tour. 653 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,960 Yeah. Do you remember that time? He fucking showed me your ass. 654 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,960 Yeah, that was that was brutal. 655 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,960 When it was terrible time, we all got our nuts out of fucking with a spoon. 656 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960 Yeah. At least there's a reason for us getting it. 657 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,960 It's a camaraderie in it. Yes, it's awesome. It's like literally the best part of my life. 658 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,960 Yeah. I can best and worst, you know, you see some fucking horrible shit. 659 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,960 There's some stuff out there, you know, that people want to believe and don't believe in. 660 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,960 Did we go there for the right reasons and that sort of shit? 661 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,960 And I, you know, that's your interpretation. I know what I went there for. 662 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,960 Yeah. What other blokes went there for. 663 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:49,960 But yeah, there's the don't don't people out there don't be disillusioned or, you know, whatever the governments or whatever these people say is. 664 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,960 There's a fucking lot of bad shit out there. 665 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960 And we ultimately we made a difference. 666 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:05,960 You know, I think you'd what anyone says like statistics is, you know, we we fought for people that can fight for themselves and we fought for each other as well. 667 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,960 So, yeah, it's it's fucking fantastic job. 668 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:17,960 And the more you get out, sorry, the more you put in, the more you get out with a military like those people that's out as fucking shit is there. 669 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,960 Those people that were like emotionally immature and they were they weren't, you know, poor. 670 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:33,960 I know blokes that there's a in the military is a good thing where they say, oh, yeah, put your hand up if you want to do a motorbike course and people and then it put you on different shit. 671 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,960 You know, like this, this story is to specialize. 672 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,960 It's called a coach protection course. 673 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,960 So who wants to do it? And they should breathe the abbreviations for a free day. 674 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960 Who wants to go on a CP course? 675 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,960 And one lad fucking hand straight up little, little ginger lad puts his hand straight up. 676 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960 Yes, I want a piece of that. 677 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,960 And he's like, yeah, no worries, lad. 678 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,960 You'd be on it. 679 00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:01,960 There's these your orders gets to this fucking is like this thing, the same where we train CP train. 680 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,960 And it was like, yeah, welcome to your cycle proficiency course. 681 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:12,960 He could fucking ride a bike anyway, but there's you know, I mean, like so well, waste of time. 682 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,960 They put him on it in the end. 683 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960 You know what I mean? But yeah, that's the sort of the shit. 684 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,960 You have to volunteer for it. 685 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,960 I volunteered for another job in Canada and majority of it was absolutely shit. 686 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,960 But at the end of it, I got a great experience. 687 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,960 I met new, new people. 688 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:36,960 I went to Canada and then I got two weeks off in Canada in Calgary and just went fucking mental. 689 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:43,960 I met these I was there with a couple of lads to two girls outside the hotel room. 690 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,960 When I come back and obviously, yeah, fucking course, we get some push action. 691 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,960 I get some right fucking dirty Canadian maple syrup fucking ass licks going on. 692 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,960 And they come upstairs. 693 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,960 Yeah. 694 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,960 And I think someone's one of them said, oh, have you got any condoms? 695 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,960 Yeah, good military fucking lads always prepared. 696 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,960 Fuck all nothing. 697 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,960 We're like, right. 698 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,960 Yeah. 699 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,960 And they turned out to be just like a couple of crack heads and they just fucking smashed up a hotel. 700 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,960 She got picked up a glass ashtray and free. 701 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960 And then the hotel staff got involved in it. 702 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,960 Fucking awful. 703 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,960 Oh shit. 704 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,960 This is good. 705 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,960 We hit the fan. 706 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,960 I dragged back and at the hotel guy was sound as a pound. 707 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,960 He's like, don't worry, mate. 708 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,960 You know, we knew they are who they were when you walked in before is a bit strange. 709 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,960 But yeah, and I was, oh, yes, right, man, fucking cracked mirror. 710 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,960 Fucking I think my mate's wallet got nicked. 711 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,960 I was a bit more switched on than I put my wallet and shit everywhere. 712 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,960 Yeah. 713 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,960 I mean, put it in my shoe, put it in my sneaker. 714 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,960 Yeah. 715 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,960 But yeah, I say like that you're not going to get that experience. 716 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,960 Don't put your hand up. 717 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960 So you've got to go for it. 718 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,960 And again, that's why, you know, if there's a course running where I work now, all there's a go on it. 719 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,960 Yeah, even if you fail it, I was so fucking, you know, if you fail something, you go around next time and try harder and learn from your mistake. 720 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,960 The first time and go and crush it. 721 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:13,960 So, yeah, you get I think that's probably, you know, good, good thing for life is you're going to get fucking try everything. 722 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,960 Yeah. 723 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,960 Yeah. 724 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,960 Anal, trans, transgender. 725 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,960 Just try it all. 726 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,960 Talk about courses. 727 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,960 Anal. 728 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,960 Yeah. 729 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,960 Anal course, fucking that's a long one. 730 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960 Long, deep course. 731 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,960 What a fantastic episode. 732 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,960 I feel like I could talk to you about this shit for a very, very long time. 733 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,960 Yeah. 734 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,960 And we do, to be fair, we do talk about it all the fucking time because it's just so interesting. 735 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,960 But I'll probably fucking finish it there. 736 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,960 Yeah. 737 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,960 Well, you know, there's always other time if the patrons want it to happen again. 738 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,960 Yeah. 739 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,960 Yeah. 740 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,960 I mean, I'm always interested in fucking feedback. 741 00:51:53,960 --> 00:52:01,960 I always like to, when we first started doing the patron, I felt like there was this almost strictness of we're a gaming podcast. 742 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,960 So the patron has to be about even more gaming, but more in depth. 743 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:13,960 But I find that most people tend to like the patron episodes when they're not so much centered around gaming, almost like not a break, 744 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:21,960 that little bit of insight into the people that you're fucking hearing on the other end of the. Yeah, definitely. 745 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,960 And I think, you know, you have one podcast where you're hammering the shit out of gaming and stuff. 746 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960 Yeah. 747 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,960 It almost seems like it sometimes just could run into the same sort of. 748 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,960 Same shit. 749 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,960 So if you have two different ones and you know. 750 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,960 It's interesting, man. I like doing episodes like this. 751 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:47,960 It's almost a shame to have it on a patron, but at the same time, I feel like you can, you're much more free to go more in depth without the worry. 752 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,960 Especially if you're talking about shit where you're on the line of, can I talk about this because I fucking signed a document saying I wouldn't talk about this. 753 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,960 Yeah, like I'm happy to talk more in detail about that. 754 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:09,960 You know, I can come back and maybe if there's a bit more structure, you want to know about like Afghanistan or Iraq itself or Somalia or fucking another country I've visited. 755 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,960 I say visited, basically gone there, dominated and fucking. 756 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,960 And then come home. 757 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,960 Buried a few people. 758 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,960 It's just mental, isn't it? 759 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,960 Yeah, I'm happy to do that. 760 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960 Yeah, give you give you feedback, guys. 761 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960 We really appreciate it. 762 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,960 Yeah. And then I play Call of Duty as well. 763 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960 So that's the gaming part of it. 764 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,960 Ouch. 765 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,960 You A.B. 766 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,960 See you later, everyone. 767 00:53:32,960 --> 00:54:01,960 Oh, no.