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Hello.
Another new guest.
It's very everybody.
No one has any idea who you are.
It's D Money.
D Money.
D Money likes call me.
Oh, Darryl.
It is.
You know what?
You're actually too loud.
You're the first person we've had on that's too loud.
There you go.
Perfect.
Just about like that.
Shall I cut the bulls?
I'm holding this bike and it's like a 12 inch big car.
This is why this is why we want to when me and Steph move, why we want to incorporate
having microphone stands because for the people that obviously don't know this fucking set
up, we're having to hold the microphones in our hands because I don't actually have anywhere
to put a fucking stand because I know you can, you can get big stands, but it would
be like fucking six foot tall and then down on your face like that.
Whereas the other ones like, like if you down on your knees, massive.
Of course, it's going to be one of those.
Not my first time.
Or you got to like clamp them down.
The logistics of it doesn't fucking work.
So we're resigned to having to hold it in front of our faces.
But you should be absolutely fine.
I feel fine.
I feel I'm excited.
Good.
I'm excited.
I've got a what's the buttons boner.
It's not a new thing.
All your listeners get them.
So just write in, say if you don't get it.
And then I think you're, I think you're actually classed as gay.
What's the bonus?
This is going to be great.
This is going to be absolutely great.
I'm sweating.
I stopped to the BP.
Didn't I get them in?
You got these at the BP.
Did you pay premium for them?
No, BP have a special offer.
I know because I'm all over the, uh, the special offers.
No man go locos.
I've had far too many energy drinks in the last week.
It's not good for you.
Oh, sorry, man.
I would have got you in a.
That's absolutely fine.
Cause I'll never say no.
A little purdy.
Super healthy water.
Is that a little fucking metal?
Yeah.
Like 17 quid for a fucking metal, metal bit of bollocks.
If you, let me, um, Darrell's, uh, would, would you say, would you say like a closet
nerd?
Yeah.
I suppose, um, I grew up when gaming sort of came out a long time ago when the ZX spectrums
were out and you were playing.
Cause there's a big old age gap between us.
How old are you?
46.
Yeah.
27.
There's a gap.
So I've been through it, but, um, I suppose I was sort of classed as a bit of a, a bit
of a jock, but closet nerd.
Yeah.
I mean, when I was a kid, I was, I was a fucking specimen.
I can run fast.
I've got great hand coordination.
Um, I can run really, really fast.
I mean, if I was in the Paleolithic times, I would have had so much monkey puss.
You just would not believe, but that's not the case.
This, this, this, this age, everyone likes a little nerd.
I feel a little bit like 21 drunk street, you know, old Channing.
Is that what you feel like?
Yeah.
Like I can walk into a shop and my nerds will love me.
I feel like from sort of experience with like people that we work with, I feel like when
you, when you first talk about the nerdy shit, or I say, no, just the stuff that we do like
gaming and fucking Lord of the Rings, Dungeons and Dragons and all that type of stuff.
I feel like everyone who isn't in that world immediately hits you with all sort of like
an offensive stance and like, I'm going to take the piss out of you for this now until
you get them like one to one and start talking to people about like Dungeons and Dragons
and shit like that.
I feel like most people have some form of affinity with gaming.
Yeah, definitely.
I suppose nerd, I think we like to associate with gaming and, but you can be about nerd
about anything, you know, birds, that type of shit, trees.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's just you being really interested in your sort of hobby and you take it a little bit
too far.
And then I think, I suppose people hate it because that stigma, you and Connor have chatted
about it as well, but I suppose people are nerdy in their own, if they're very one dimensional,
very nerdy in that.
And it's like fuck, people just like, if someone talks to me about, you know, fun guy for longer
than five minutes, I'll run my brain switch on, fuck this, what is this dude talking about?
And if it becomes your life, then everyone's like, oh, what would I do?
This guy's boring.
Yeah.
And then they, you know, you've got the nerd, super nerds that don't wash and you know,
it's like the Comic Con nerds.
But yeah, I should imagine there's, I mean, we all know there's great nerds out there.
Henry, Henry Cavill, mate.
Oh yeah, man.
I've now got a Cavill boner.
But yeah, there's so many out there, you know, it's just you taking your hobby to an extreme
and you know.
Yeah, pretty much.
And we've mentioned it quite a few times on the pod where gaming's that such a massive
industry that I feel like you're hard pressed to live your life about without gaming having
some kind of effect on you, even whether it be through a series that you're watching or
through fucking playing a game on your phone or some shit like that.
I feel like at some point in your life, even down to like candy crush, you know what I
mean?
You're playing lady shit, fucking playing candy, but still gaming.
So yeah, it's, it's, uh, that was a big old fucking rugby player that plays Dungeons and
Dragons with us.
Yeah, I love it.
It's, it's mental, like how you can use your imagination.
I suppose if you've got that, um, I don't know, something about you, you, you, you go
in depth or you, you immerse yourself in it.
You really enjoy it.
Um, and yeah, I love it.
You'd be surprised as well, like the amount of guys that I play rugby with that are now,
cause I came out as a closet now through Pokemon to start with.
Um, and there was a couple of lads in my rugby team and I, oh yeah, we're into Pokemon as
well.
And it just needed someone just to go.
Yeah, that's it.
And then all of a sudden, you know, I said, Oh, we're going to play D&D and now there's
a D&D group with some of like about six, seven rugby lads.
Um, yeah.
And it'll all be great.
I know we haven't played just yet, but we, we, we are aiming to, but you know, it would
be fucking brilliant because everyone would just be getting involved with it.
They would be, you know, like we're in a, we're in a tavern and my first thing is right.
Where's the fucking birds and we need to get now in this shit.
And also, Oh yeah, we've got this persuasion sort of stuff that we can roll for.
And I'm like, Oh, let's get free shit.
Let's fucking, let's get as much stuff.
So you're in there and you know, not only that is you, you can actually, like you were
talking about previously, um, you can imagine it as well.
You're in there.
There's, and I suppose you draw some of that from things like Lord of the Rings, where
they go to the Prancing Pony and that type of, you look at me, I know it, I know it all.
Um, yeah.
So you can get sort of half that imagery from films and bits and bits up to your own brain
and your personality to how far you take it and what you want to do.
Cause I'm pretty sure in Prancing Pony Frodo didn't ask the wench there if he could get
a knockers out and a little suck on him, try and persuade, persuade role.
Um, so yeah, it's, it's one, like if you don't, if you haven't played DD and you listen to
this play is awesome.
Um, get not, and don't be afraid to be a nerd because what you think of might be a jock
out there, but actually they're probably secret.
They're probably doing lots of stuff online.
Well, like the, the last D and D session that we played was arguably in like the last five
years, the funnest time that I've had fucking playing, playing anything.
And it was playing something where I originally went in with the mindset of, I'm not going
to be able to do this.
I don't have the creativity for it.
And yet it was so much fun.
It's so much fun.
And you saw it, you kind of almost feel somewhat anxious about the people that you're playing
with and like, Oh, do I want to put on a voice?
Do I want to do this?
Do I want to do that?
People think I'm a bit, I'm a bit weird for doing that or blah, blah, blah.
But then you, you quickly realized that I'm sat around the table with the same, like with
my friends and we're all playing exactly the same fucking game.
Like the voices that you were doing our last session was just fucking fantastic.
Absolutely loved it.
But I felt like that, that comfortability of you really getting into the role play allowed
everyone else to really delve into the role play as well.
And I can see that developing over more and more sessions that we do.
It's fun, man.
I love it.
Yeah.
I think it also, I mean, I'm pretty bulls anyway.
I'll go out and I don't mind, you know, um, doing crazy stuff in the middle of a wither
spoons pub.
But, um, but yeah, like, but we work off each other as well.
You know, like people set you up for stuff.
Like I had no intention of gobbling on you when you were down and out.
And I'm covering it.
I thought, how, how can I make this worse for him?
I'm going to spit on him.
I'm going to hook up a massive shitty loogie.
You imagine I've probably been traveling for days and dust up there.
I've probably been eating raw rabbit.
There's a bit of fuck it.
It's all, you know, so yeah.
So you, cause you're setting a, setting a scene for yourself and others.
I think not as a responsibility.
I think it makes you a much better D and D player if you engulf that as well.
And now I'm in his head, I'm in his scene, but how can I add to, how can I make that
better?
And I genuinely thrive off of other people like that.
So the more you give, then the more I can give.
Yeah.
Cause that's what I want to, that's what I want to, um, almost break that, that barrier
of understanding that I'm not, I'm not playing drew him the fucking fighter dwarf.
I am drew him the fight dwarf in that moment.
And that, that, that's where I can feel myself slowly getting into that.
But I'm hoping the next couple of sessions is where I can really delve into.
Cause when you watch things like critical role, when they're doing their, their sessions,
you can just see that they're, they're not them in real life when they're, when they're
actually playing, like they are the characters that they've created.
And I just feel like to have, obviously that's a skewed way to look at it though, because
they're, they're professionals.
I mean, they're, they're professional voice actors or they're in that world.
They are fucking top tier.
So to then for me as an amateur to look at that and go, well, why don't I exactly like
them?
Like it's never going to fucking happen.
Not yet anyway.
But it's definitely, it helps for the whole inspiration side of it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, definitely.
I think that's all.
And as I've been doing it for so long, they've developed so many of what I've seen, they've
developed these characters and they changed them, but actually there's sort of micro parts
of that old character that's the new cat.
So, you know, they're just drawing off of a wealth of wealth of their, their experience.
And I can't remember the dungeon master's name.
He's got the long hair.
He's yeah, that name is Zach penis, but the way he can just be a dungeon master telling
them what to do.
And then all of a sudden just jumps into a character of and multiple characters.
The last time I saw it, I think he was in a, um, what was it?
Um, like a meeting, um, with something like probably around about 20 other characters
to two sex.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
About 20.
And he literally played 20 different characters, different voices, mouth.
And it's, it is impressive, but not undoable.
I think I could now, you reckon you could do it.
Yeah.
Like what we got here, we've got the monk, a little, we've got a, like a little gorilla.
Yeah.
So you made a gorilla and I sit on this table looking out the window.
Do you know what I mean?
And then, uh, we've got, um, where else we've got?
Um, there's a fish, fish character.
Right.
Quick fucking wooden woman.
Oh, God.
Oh, man.
My, the wood is fucking old.
I love it.
Yeah.
So like, you'll get there Reese.
I know.
Definitely.
I will definitely play it and try and develop more and more.
I've been thinking about maybe two other sort of characters that I want to do.
Um, yeah.
And I suppose that that's not, that's sort of nerdy, but you can, you can get away with
that.
But I think what really hit me is when I went and bought a little mini figure and started
to paint it and then I was like, Oh my God, this is it.
Nerd nerd nerd.
Like the nerd bolt of lightning has hit the tip of the paint.
Do you have like a little magnifying glass to, have you got the full set?
I went the whole lot of painting, paintbrush, like whatever.
Have you finished?
Have you finished one yet?
Um, I'm probably about 90% through by that incident where I just spilt fucking paint
everywhere and I just lost my shit.
It just went everywhere and trying to get rid of it is such a fucking pain in the ass.
Everywhere.
Just it's only like a small tin of paint, but I spilled half it and it managed.
I mean, I think I've got some of it under my fucking asshole or something inside me.
It was everywhere, literally all over the floor.
Oh man.
What a nightmare.
So is that cause we're going to be playing DND in a couple of weeks.
Do you reckon it will be ready by then?
Yeah.
I haven't even fucking glued mine together, man.
I haven't even glued them together.
I'm just pull your finger out.
But it's a, it's another thing where I, I just don't know if I would enjoy painting
because it's so like, like when I was talking to Connor about it, I just know full well,
I'd probably just go two colors and that's it.
Yeah.
I think we've made, we've jumped in balls deep really because we've got mini figures.
I mean, there's so much detail on there and fine detail.
Whereas I think they recommend that you just start with like figures that are sort of five
inches tall and you can work it out.
No, we've got fucking cause.
Tiny, tiny, tiny.
ADHD or whatever has kicked in with I'm not missing out.
I'm going to have a character and it's going to be the balls.
It's terrible man.
Even like just drawing it away for a second.
Pokemon fucking hell.
What advice that was for the, for you, me and Ash and O'Connor narrowly escaped that
fucking little fuck me.
That, that's, I mean, I suppose the, the, the difference between the three of us is
that you actually play Pokemon.
Yeah.
Whereas me and Ash were just pure at that point, just gambling.
Yeah.
You just thought fuck, I'm going to, I'm going to pay out seven quid and I'm going to make
a million.
Yeah.
Really.
I'm going to make loads of money and then make up.
I mean, all of mine are fucking sat right next to you.
My binders and everything that like, there's some cool shit in there, but I feel like,
I feel like playing competitive card games just isn't in my wheelhouse whatsoever.
Yeah.
I mean, well that's how I started really.
Cause you got fucked up by a lot of kids.
Oh man.
Fucking, I went all the way to Liverpool for it now.
To get my ass handed to me by a, by children, like a fucking 10 year old kid.
Yeah.
I started online probably, you know, through Pokemon, not Pokemon go, whatever.
That TCG.
Yeah.
That's it.
Pokemon TCG.
Yeah.
Played it on there.
Started to learn a little bit more about it.
And again, you got, you just got to dive in there and it's, it's ever evolving again.
It changes, you know, there's different sort of, there's different sort of characters or
different sets to play, but you've, it's constantly evolving, you know, cause you're playing against
someone else that could have something that has a weakness for you.
And it's like really interesting, really in depth.
And I, and I loved it and enjoyed it, but if you don't move it, it's like, I had, I
can't remember what happened, but I think I changed jobs or something.
I just missed the loop for like a month.
I missed a re a release and then I was fucked.
You know, you're behind and you've got to buy a net loan.
You've got to hope you get it.
Then you've got to go on, you've got to build these sets and you get one set.
And I was, I was doing really well online and actually like Liverpool really did help.
I went up for the champion UK championships in Liverpool with a friend.
He done really well.
He was insane.
Like it was only sort of an amateur class, but he won it.
He he done really well.
He went on to worlds and tried, tried to win the pro and didn't last too long.
Fuckin London, London wipes him out.
Fair play.
Yes, but yeah, I can see the, the, the, um, the draw with the cards.
Like there's some beautiful cards out there.
It's like anything.
Oh, the art style was fantastic.
And as collectors as well, you know, you collect, I mean, you've got multiple stuff around here.
Lots of fun.
Pop-ups, figures, trinkets.
Yeah.
It's, um, it's a fucking collectors wet, wet dream in it.
And it's definitely a work nerd's wet dream.
Um, yes.
So, uh, because we went, we went from collecting the cards, it was first, it was first trying
to figure out what fucking sets that we wanted, because obviously there's a whole plethora
of, of, of, of evolution sets, fucking expansions that you can roll with.
And I believe it was, it was Ash that first started doing it.
And it was Tik Tok live from that nostalgia trading card geezer.
And he started buying off of him.
And then I feel like that's what fucking fueled us because he'd open the packs in front of
you.
You'd, you'd fucking buy whatever on, on his shop and then he'd open them live.
So basically like gambling because you wouldn't, you have no idea what you're fucking getting.
And then, and then the age send them to you and blah, blah, blah.
And then slowly collecting sets.
And then that exhilaration when you pull a really decent card and you're like, Oh my
God, I've got fucking like crown Zenith come out.
Um, and it was like one of my first couple of packs and I pulled one of the, um, what
was it called?
One of the gold cards that they had like four or five of them.
I can't remember which one I got.
I can't remember the name of the Pokemon.
Um, but then after that, I was like, yeah, I'm fucking, I'm hooked.
And then we started rolling into the realms of getting graded cards.
And I was like, that's like, that's like Funko pops.
And then going into sign Funko pops.
It's like, I feel like that's, that's like the next fucking level with, with collecting
Pokemon cards.
And after that, just buying fucking slabs after slabs after slabs of fucking Pokemon
because they're cool things to have.
I feel like the, the act of here's a trading card game designed for a purpose to be used
in a, in a fucking game.
But let me encase it in fucking plastic.
So you can't actually use it as a card.
You can, but it'd be a ball.
Like for some reason that you, you've now made me unable to use that for its purpose
has made it even more enticing.
So in one of those boxes, there's just a row of fucking slabs.
And that was like ultimate fucking, cause then tick the people on tech talk live started
doing like mystery packs for slabs and she was like, I spent 50 quid and then you get
a fucking slab out of it and you might get a decent one.
I was like, oh fuck it.
And I'm pretty sure the first slab I bought, it was like, it was meant to be a card worth
40 quid, but the gaze would put the wrong slab in the wrong bag and it was worth like
90 quid.
I was like, I'm going to make loads of money.
Never fucking sold any of them though.
Have I all of this shit here guys all worth so much money.
It's worth fuck all until you try and sell it.
Yeah.
It's worth nothing.
This is all poor investment.
Thousands of pounds.
But to a nerd when I walked in, I was like, Oh God, oh my God.
Look at those little slides.
It's so weird that you grow some form of upset.
It was just ornaments in it.
Yeah.
It's just our version of fucking ornaments.
It's no different from your name collecting fucking ladro or some shit like that.
Yeah.
It looks great.
Yeah.
I can, and I totally see where you come in from with it with the Pokemon slabs and stuff.
I was, I mean, I haven't got one, but that's not to say I wouldn't, you know, it's, um,
they're cool man.
There's some mega stuff, but I won't, I won't just buy again.
Like, so you, you won't just buy shit just cause it's in a slab.
It's gotta be right.
And it's, you know, it's gotta be unique.
Cause I feel like that's, that's where you start is, um, you, you like you buy a slab
it's graded or whatever.
And then once it grabs ahold of you, I feel like that's when you start delving into the
stuff that you really want, which is what obviously I started doing with Funko pops
as I right now I've collected a couple of these, got my first signed one.
There was a ride.
My first sign one was a Gimli.
So let's get all of the fucking Lord of the Rings signed ones.
And then you realize how rare and expensive they are.
You go, right.
Well, that's fucking, that's almost impossible.
And I like, I think my, my L ronde, which is down on the bottom row, I think somewhere
that was like 400 and something quid and it's that's fucking ridiculous.
But the, the thrill of collecting it, because this is sort of like the first stuff that
I've ever collected.
Yeah.
Um, with real adult money as well.
So it's like fucking boss after the money, fucking money going to things like Comic-Con.
I never realized that Funko pops were so big until you go to Comic-Con and then you just
realize that 90% of what everyone said in is fucking Funko pops.
Yep.
You know, yeah, this, this shit is, is mega.
Yeah.
There's this, it hooks you in big time.
I'm not gonna lie.
And, and, and as you say, like now you'd like probably about 80% of those Funko box.
You don't really give a shit about, but you are one on the hunt for the, for the gem,
for the chase.
And you're one with like, fuck, actually, I want the day.
So I know it's going to be 400 quid, which is, ain't going to happen.
And then you go to, for the, for the stuff that you like.
Yeah.
Like, um, so I've just started watching, uh, power rings, which is maybe get back into
the Lord of the Rings.
Rings of power.
Yeah.
Rings of power.
And, and now, um, now I'm like, right.
Well I want signed Lord of the Rings.
Yeah.
And that's what you would go there for you.
Like next time we go, I will be one looking that for that sort of stuff.
And it ain't going to come cheap.
And I know that, but I don't care.
Cause I'm going to buy for that money that adds to the, almost to the fun of the day,
because you like, I, I'm sure there's a, so like there's another Comic-Con in, in what
October that we're all looking to go to.
I'm sure that you can find a list of the vendors that are going to be there and maybe what
they're selling.
Or that I've ever bothered to look, but I find it quite, um, quite a nice added feature
for yourself when you're going to a place like that.
And you're like, right.
I'm looking for something specific here.
And we look at every, let me quickly skim everything, but I'm looking for something
specific just to make the day a little bit more, not exhilarating because you're not
running around fucking giddy.
Cause you might find something, but that just a little bit more, especially when you go
as a group, because I'm like, I feel like times that we've been go, right team.
I'm fucking looking for a bow rug, fucking Comic-Con exclusive bow rug.
And then everyone's just fucking eyes on having to fucking look and everyone knows what everyone
wants and it's, I just liked that shit, man.
Yeah.
It's good fun.
But yeah, we're going to a thing like Comic-Con.
You've got to have a hefty wallet.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, I've also been slightly, I mean, it is awesome, but slightly disappointed they
haven't released any of those Comic-Con like Funko's.
You know what I mean?
Like there's no like exclusive that we've been to yet where they've said, Oh, this is
a Comic-Con.
Yeah.
Every time.
What there has been.
Yeah.
Where?
Yeah.
Every time.
Where was the, the star Wars ones there was twice.
I didn't go to star wars one, but I'm pretty sure the Comic-Con one they do.
Oh, maybe they didn't.
No, I can't.
Maybe they didn't.
Cause I would have snapped that shit.
Star Wars.
They definitely did.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Maybe the last Comic-Con they didn't then because there was, there wasn't an actual
Funko booth.
No, there hasn't been a Funko booth, which is a shame.
And again, bit of a surprise.
You think Funko would be all over that cause they would make some mega bucks.
Yeah.
But I also feel like when you're most of, most of the, most of the expensive stuff when
it comes to Funko's is all the older stuff, isn't it?
It's the pre-owned.
It's the shit that Funko themselves aren't actually fucking released anymore because
they've already released it.
Um, and I, yeah, I don't know.
I really don't know.
I kind of like, when we go in October, I don't think there's going to be any, anything specific
that I'll be looking for this time round.
Um, but you can't not look at Funko's.
Can't not.
Can't look at, can't afford not to look at those dice either.
Oh fucking hell.
Yeah.
Airplane graded dice.
Jesus Christ.
Box.
Fucking hell.
So, at Comic Con we went to our, our main mission there was D&D dice.
Let's get some fucking dice in.
Let's get some dice.
Let's get something to hold it in.
But I feel like in, in this case, we're, we're not being ADHD with it.
Like with everything else.
I feel like we're being quite, um, quite smart with our new found love for Dungeons and Dragons
in yes, let's get the minis.
Let's just paint them.
Let's, let's play D&D.
We actually haven't done that many sessions.
Yes, we need dice, but let's not buy fucking 30 packs of fucking dice.
Um, but yeah, when we went to Comic Con, every fucking store was just selling dice and I
feel like it got to a point where they're all just so nice, but they're all the same
fucking thing.
Yeah.
Just slightly different.
So trying to pick something.
Fuck me.
So odd.
But, um, yeah, that's, I suppose that's what kept, kept us going around and around and
around.
Six or seven times.
And you still love it.
And then you feed off each other again.
Oh yeah.
Like green.
Green.
Well, yeah, my, my character that I'm thinking about, or, oh yeah, man, that's 60 quid.
Oh, you give it to me now.
Yeah.
I've got the money.
That fucking, yeah, the airplane graded fucking, like a hundred and something quid or, or,
or is it more than that?
However much it was.
I never 60 to 80 quid.
I don't need this.
But I think you said it's airplane grade, but yeah, well, they made airplanes.
I made out of fucking gold.
Oh, they're just aluminium.
So you tell me, yeah, it's fucking dice.
It's just made out of the normal metal that you get aluminium.
It's just light.
That's all this is.
I think they weren't even light.
I feel like that's fucking that's that that that set of dice is such a scam for, for however
much they cost cause you're like, they will have absolutely no fucking relevance from when
you roll and you ain't sending them the fucking space.
And even if you do, that'd be absolutely fine.
I'd pay that money.
If it was actually from the fucking challenger to show, I'd be like, yeah, I'll pay that
there.
Yeah.
If this come off a bit of it, come up, consider it's probably come off and have Ryan F fucking
playing with Thomas cook.
We've got all these planes.
What are we going to do?
Make dice, make dice, ridiculous amounts of money for it.
Fuck it.
Oh, so you've been, so you've been getting into, into Lord of the Rings, Rings of power,
that fucking, that world.
I'm so, I'm so jealous of the fact that you get to watch the, the extended editions of
Lord of the Rings for the first time ever.
Yeah.
Uh, it is, if you've not, if you've not watched the extended versions, get your shit on it.
It makes so much more sense.
You know, all right.
It's three hours, 58 minutes long, but mommy, we're nerds.
What else are we going to do?
Yeah.
I feel like if you're sat there with the intention to watch the entire trilogy of Lord of the
Rings, then the extra couple of hours, it's not really going to make that much of a difference.
It's pretty mental.
You get to see and hear so much and it makes more, more sense.
And I suppose right now is the right time to start watching it again, because you've
got, I say the Rings of power, which is a lot of the backstory, um, which you know,
older closer.
Sorry.
There you go.
Uh, yeah.
So which just makes so much more sense and really immerse yourself into the, that, that
there's a big old, there's a big old fucking rabbit hole that you can go down with the
law surrounding Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit, uh, the Silmarillion, uh, if you really wanted
to read into that, even just reading, um, reading the books because obviously they're,
they're, they're different, um, to the movies.
Obviously they all follow the same sort of path, but there's, there's details there that
are different.
I've never read the books myself, but it's always been something that, that I wanted
to do, they're just so daunting because it's so fucking big.
It's like, Oh, I've always like, as a, as, as a kid, I've always argued, go, Oh, why
would I want to read the book?
I could just watch the movie.
It's like, well, now that I'm, now that I'm older, so if I know, cause there's way more
law that they can portray in the books because they've got way more freedom than fucking
on screen.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I've not read the books either.
And that's why I think the Rings of power is good for me because I'm like, Oh yeah,
this is, I mean, it's probably people, Oh yeah, but I didn't follow this and they didn't
do that.
And you know, you're welcome to that.
Absolutely.
But again, yeah, I'm not going to read those books.
I remember trying to read, uh, like the first, um, book and it was so intense in the first
like chapter and I was like, fuck this.
Fuck this shit.
Cause you can do the audio books.
If you, if you, I know Connor listens to a lot of audio books rather than actually reading
and I've never actually tried that myself, but obviously they, they do it for Lord of
the Rings and I was tempted to, to start that because I feel like all of us drive quite
a bit for work.
Yeah.
Um, so if anyone's going to be able to finish audio books and podcasts and shit like that,
I feel like we've got a decent chance of doing it.
You're not just walking to work and then sitting in an office fucking with an audio book in
the background.
You're just some driving that fucking Land Rover, which is, which is barely got a window
roller.
Grandfather clock in the dash.
You can put it in reverse and go backwards in the fucking time.
It's a piece of shit.
My back has only just recovered from driving that piece of shit.
It sounds terrible when we, when we fucking ring you and you're in that.
Oh man.
The windows, Clarice got back windows like a slidey hatch that you could serve food from
and it rattles like a fucking can and you, I know you hate it when there's any background
noises it is, but drive that bastard being on the phone with someone and hearing background
noise is the, ah, fucking hell.
When it was you and Connor in that welfare van.
Oh again.
Yeah.
That panel, that panel that used to drive me up the walls.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Shit.
It's just so fucking annoying.
The simple things in life can make you pissed off.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah, you're right.
Audio books are a good way ahead.
But, uh, I think, yeah, again, it's audio books, isn't it?
It's just, you, it's another excuse.
I feel like it's that weird in between, isn't it?
I don't think there's anything wrong with audio books, but at the same time, it, yeah.
Okay.
It's not like having a good old book and reading it and using your imagination, but you need
time and you need that.
Yeah.
Cause I, cause obviously I went again, ADHD wise went mental.
And when I got into the world of warcraft books, when I'm fucking, I think if you want
to watch, if you want to read the entire, um, law strict series, there's like 64 books,
something like that.
And they're, they're thick fuckers.
Um, and I, I like found the list of, of the audio supposed to read in and then ask Steph
for like two, three months went on a mad buying spree.
I was like, I was, I'm going to read all of them.
I'm going to read all of them.
However, someone's told me there's a correct way to read them.
So therefore that is now the law and I must read it that way.
So I need to now buy a book number one through to 64.
And then I spent a long time going on vintage eBay fucking looking anywhere to buy all of
these books in the correct order.
And I think I got to maybe like book 17 and have now just fizzled out.
Yeah.
I've only fucking read two of them.
No space for them.
I only read fucking two of them, but there's something about, um, about owning, having
a book that's something to do with one of your hobbies, especially something as big
for me as world of warcraft to then have, because so many people that I play with are
like proper nerds and I real decent people, but some of them are so more involved with
the inner workings of world of warcraft than I could ever hope to be.
And therefore they're the same with the law as well.
So they've read all the books and they fucking know everyone's names and why this happens
and why people do this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And having the ability to do that after trying to read books is like fucking hell.
That is, that is an undertaking.
Trying to buy the fucking things alone is ridiculous.
Like some of these books are like over a hundred quid because they just don't fucking make
them anymore.
And like I say, they're to the point where they started bringing out, um, bringing out
some of the books where it was like three or four wedged into one rather than you having
to buy the individuals.
And it's just so much, so much effort.
But again, another cool thing, they'll probably be ornaments to be fair.
I probably won't even fucking read them.
They'll just sit on a shelf and just look pretty fucking cool ornaments.
It's just so stupid.
And this is, this is all, this is all from gaming.
Like when you, this is what I mean when we started at the very beginning, gaming will
get you at some point in so many different ways in your life to the point where I'm a
massive gamer, but now anything to do with gaming, you give me a fucking a ladle with
Blizzard written on it.
I want the ladle.
I got no need for a ladle.
I'm not making soup.
I'm not pouring soup.
I'm not pouring it, but I'll have that ladle please.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like they've really like with, um, uh, star Wars fans, you, you, I could take a shit on
the floor and spray star Wars on it.
Someone's going to want it.
Oh, totally.
So is it a one in six shit?
Yeah.
What a chances of me getting that one.
No one else in the world has any other 60 other people that have got that shit.
I've got that star wars shit.
I hate that shit.
Yeah.
Fucking true.
And it's, um, and there are certain categories like you see selling previous podcasts that,
um, that star Wars people will buy whatever they'll buy.
They'll be 70 odd years old and they'll buy a star Wars kids backpack.
The minute you say that something's limited edition, that you haven't even got approved
to me.
That's limited edition.
So the collector's editions, I've got obviously the, um, assassin's creed shadows, collector's
edition that, that, that will come when that game releases.
Got a war, Ragnarok, Mirage.
Like I don't know how limited these are.
It's not like they told, they said they're limited edition, collector's editions, and
there's only fucking 500 of them.
They just said that these are the ones that are going to come out.
But just that wording alone, collector's edition.
Oh, I need it.
Give me, give me that.
I've got no purpose for any of the stuff in here.
No purpose.
Probably only ever going to be my eyes and fucking a couple of the other couple of other
people that'll ever see it and I'll never sell any of it.
But just trinkets man, like a fucking magpie gaming magpie.
Yeah.
We've just been to nerd base and you spent what fucking 20 quid on shit.
That's probably going to go in the bin.
Yeah.
Cause it gets wild on it.
Star Wars.
Yeah, the chance of winning like an Imperial guard and a stormtrooper that, you know, I
just fucking bit it.
And they do the smart thing of throwing the odds on the back of the box as well.
Like one in 73 chance and you go, Oh, so if you get it, you got a fucking hell of a one
of the rare ones.
One of the rare ones.
What I'm going to do with it.
God, I love this.
Yeah.
Nothing.
Put it on my shelf.
Yeah.
I do absolutely nothing.
I'm Q or whatever they are feather duster and that's as much as you're going to touch
it and play with it.
Yeah.
It's a strange old thing, but once you're in it, you're in it and you're fucking in
it with the money as well.
You know, you're, you'd buy, you'd eat cans of soup for the rest of the year.
If you could get a Obi-Wan Kenobi signed Funko, which is probably what I'd done.
I love soup now.
I forget you've got one.
I've got so much soup.
I can do that fucking ladle that you bought.
You can, you can easily understand how in terms of an industry it makes the most money,
because what was it?
We, what was it was talking about in a previous episode that it's the film and music industry
combined gaming makes more money by quite a lot.
Yeah.
It's a lot more than those two industries put together.
And yeah, when you look at the things like the most, even down to games now, 70 quid
for a game is like the industry standard.
Now even me being fucking 27, I remember when the, when the standard for a game was about
30, 40 quid, that was like the norm.
And most of the time you got a fucking physical game with that.
Whereas a lot of times now it's, it's, it's a digital only format.
And to be young and try and get involved deeply into gaming must be so, so arduous just because
of how fucking expensive that truly is.
Trying to get a PS five when they first release, if you've never owned a place dates or anything
like that, and that's your first console fucking good luck.
Yeah.
You just got to have fucking parents that are awesome.
Yeah.
Or rich.
I feel like that's why people in our situation, when you, when you get older and you start
earning your own money and you're, you're paying your own way through life.
Why if you've got a bit of spare dough, you start throwing it into the things that you
weren't ever allowed to get access to.
Yes.
I don't know if I was telling you, but I was in Smith's, Smith's toys and I ended up buying
a like ghosts from Call of Duty, a stand that you can put your controller on.
Yeah.
And I looked behind me and there's like just all kids there.
I'm fucking 46 years old still by it, but then I smiled.
I didn't feel embarrassed.
I thought, yeah, cause I've got the money.
So fuck off bitches.
You got parents to rely on.
I'll buy what I want when I want.
Um, yeah.
But it's great man.
Yeah.
So I don't think you're really, I don't know, do you ever like grow up like that or deny
yourself that, that pleasure must be, must be terrible.
Mustn't it, if you think like, I've got to pay for NCP parking during a week.
I'm not going to buy myself.
I've got to pay my Ulysses.
I don't, I don't ever see, um, I don't see gaming as something that's childish.
I don't see what we, what we do, um, as childish anymore.
I feel like I've also got to a point now where when I was younger and people would, would
take the piss out of, especially being younger in school and playing World of Warcraft, that
was just seen as like the penultimate of being fucking nerdy.
So everyone would take the piss.
If you and me were in school together, you were probably fucking taking the piss out
of me.
No.
And I'll be crying in the corner.
Without a doubt.
I mean, like my, so I was a little bit nerdy and I had a friend going through secondary
school who's known as Jason Beyer and then he was into Doom, like on PC.
I used to go around his house and I used to think, like we got on really well, but he
was a fucking nerd.
Um, and he was sort of kid.
There's, you go around his house to play Doom on PC and he'd have three deaths and you're
only allowed one.
It was his house, his console, blah, blah, blah.
Um, but yeah, I always remember, like we got on really well.
We used to go around each other's house like daily, daily basis.
Um, and we, um, sort of split up as friends a little bit after or just before sort of
the end of fifth year.
I don't know what you class that these days for, but, um, I always remember laughing at
him and take, taking a piss out of him.
Not cause he was a nerd.
Cause when I walked downstairs to go home, I noticed on the, on the side cabinet, there
was a letter and it obviously come from his bank and it said, obviously as a kid at those
age, they call you master.
So it was master beta.
They call you master.
Yeah.
Used to get a letter from your bank leads bank building society master beta.
I'm not a baiter.
That was it.
I think that's where our friendship ended.
Cause I was, I would take a piss out of a little nerd.
It was horrible.
Can't after that was yeah.
Yeah.
All them three to one deaths fucking got to me.
I was like, you know, why can't I have more than one?
Yeah.
But, um, yeah, no, I definitely would have said the piss.
I wasn't a bully at by any means.
I was sort of, um, I was sort of Indian crowds, but, um, I wasn't nerd, but I was definitely
a sporty outside type of player of, um, all sports.
You know, I remember another game in thing was we used to have BBC computers and that
was our IT.
I used to play, can't remember French game on it.
Like Tony and that's Tony enough.
And that's his shit.
And I remember looking out the window and everyone's playing hockey and football and
I'd rather be out there.
That's what I want to be doing.
Yeah.
Um, she's probably still kind of true nowadays, but I know the difference between like, I
want to go and play rugby or I want to go, I want that time of, I want to immerse myself
into a different world.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm at a point now where it's sort of, if anyone, not that I think we'd
be on the point of like people taking the piss out of you because you, you game plus
I feel like we're far, far comfortable in our own skins to like, I don't give a fuck.
If you want to have a go at me because I'm playing world war, I thought D and D I don't
care.
But I also like to, I like to explain it to people that, that don't understand it.
I feel like that's why so many people still take the piss because you go, no, like you're
taking the piss because you don't understand it.
Yeah.
So let me explain it to you.
If it's then not your thing, then you crack on, you continue taking the piss, but I'm
not going to care.
But normally those people that are taking the piss, once they understand what it is
that you're doing and why you do it, it tends to, to almost clicking.
Go, actually, no, they sound like they're actually having quite a lot of fun.
And like with the D and D stuff, I feel like there's so many people where from an outside
looking in, they'll go, that is fucking nerdy.
I ain't ever doing that.
I'm not fucking doing that.
But when you actually get involved with it and you realize I'm just chilling around my
mate's house with all of my friends and we're just fucking pelting dice at each other and
then trying to fuck each other over in this, in this weird whimsical world that, that is
sadistic and horrifying and lovely at the same time.
It's that, that fantasy of just being able to switch off for a minute.
Yeah.
And be able to, if I want to fucking bury my ax in your head, I can't do that in real
life nor would I want to.
It's not who I want to be.
However, on a tabletop, Ashley Harris Prince, if I want to put my fucking ax in your skull,
bang, I will.
I'm going to have to roll some dice for it first.
It's only a matter of time, isn't it?
No, we've got a truce going on.
Oh yeah.
We've truced it out.
Why are you winking at me?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Cause he listens to this.
He'll listen to this and he'll think that we've got a thing going on.
I'm glad he listens to it because he hardly ever presents it.
Stop winking at me.
Yeah, all right.
No, no, we ain't.
There's a truce, there's a truce on that and me and him ain't going to attack each other
when it comes to, to DND.
All right.
Another wink.
All right.
Absolute bollocks.
Ashley's going to get a middle part.
No, absolute bollocks.
We're going to, we're going to go do the patron now.
All right, you fucking nerd bastards.
Daryl, it's been an absolute pleasure.
No.
I'm sure people will listen to this and enjoy it.
The pleasure's been all mine.
I can't wait to go home and wait for this episode.
And whilst I do that, I'll probably watch it with transvestite Paul.
It's a great way to end it.
See you later everyone.
Bye bye.