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Hello.

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I know it's tight.

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Thank goodness I'm here.

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He's here.

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He's here.

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We're getting it going.

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It's me.

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Um.

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Here again.

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Thank you.

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There's one game that we're going to talk about.

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Um, a little, uh.

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I've already said the title.

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Would you class it as a fucking hidden gem?

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I would say it probably is the hidden gem of this year.

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Now, after its little reveal and sneak into the charts.

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It's called Thank Goodness You're Here.

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It's right good.

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It's right good.

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And it's a Northern.

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It's good laugh.

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Oh, it's great.

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It's fantastic.

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It is made by Cole Supper.

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Is the developer.

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It is.

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Cole Supper.

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Two lads who I actually messaged after playing.

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Um.

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And just.

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Mr. Networker.

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What I just said.

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Well, I weren't even networking.

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I just wanted to say that game was fucking sick.

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Can I have your game for free?

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No, no, no, no.

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Literally.

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I just messaged him.

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I loved it so much.

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Just to say that game was fucking sick.

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You Northern bastards give me games.

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I really liked it.

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And then I just said, I was like, I'm going to get all my mates to play it.

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It's fucking sick.

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The old one played.

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Keep up the good work and it's fucking.

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Oh God.

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It's a funny little guy.

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So it's so fucking move left and right and about and slap.

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What's the fucking description for it?

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I have no idea.

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Let me have a look because I don't even know what you're supposed to.

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I suppose it's on Steam, isn't it?

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So that would be the best bet for me to have a little gander because I played it on PS5.

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You played it on Steam.

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Yeah.

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Let's have a look.

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For a mere 12 pounds, the game was bought.

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It is at the moment.

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It's got it's overwhelmingly positive.

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Yeah, of course.

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And at the moment, it's 13 pounds and 59 pence.

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You can get it in a bundle with Untitled Goose Game on Steam.

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You can for 2662.

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And it is thank goodness you're here is an absurd comedy slap former set in a bizarre

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northern English town of Barnesworth as a traveling salesman.

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Take the time to see the sites and meet the locals who are very eager to give you a series

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of increasingly odd jobs.

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And it was released on the 1st of August.

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It was published by Panic and the developer is Cold Supper.

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And I'll give you a quick rundown.

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It's about two and a bit hours to complete.

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I would imagine it's not far off of that to platinum it either.

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No, I think I did just doing it pretty, you know, do move moving around and doing as much

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as I can.

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I think I missed out five achievements total.

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And it is so probably if you didn't get them all in one place, I imagine that you could

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focus on trying to find them and you would probably be able to be line it and get it

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done in a lot quicker than that.

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It is so northern.

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It's fucking fantastic.

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I absolutely loved it because I because I saw a tick tock clip of because it's all the

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the art style of it.

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It's just fantastic.

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Very like a comic.

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Yeah, it's very cartoon.

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It's so good.

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And I saw a clip of it on tick tock just randomly.

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And it was this little old lady in a bakery and it's just this the woman behind the counter.

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You want vegan pastry saying that she's got no butter and that the pastry would be vegan

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like a meat.

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It was like a pie or something.

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It would be vegan.

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It's just this little old lady.

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She just stood there.

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No, I'd rather shit bed.

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I'd rather shit bed.

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And I was like, that is that is fantastic.

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And I was like, I will not watch any more of this.

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I will buy it instead.

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And then, yeah, and I completed it in like, yeah, two and a bit hours.

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Yeah, it's a very easy brainless like just go entitled goose game just like a hoss about

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and just do what do kind of what you want.

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But you will be pushed in the direction that you need to go if you just keep fucking about

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stuff.

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Well, this person played 2.3 hours.

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They've got 2582 products on their account.

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So I feel like they're a reputable steam reviewer.

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It says, it says I'm going to go.

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I'm going to come out and say this straight away.

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Thank goodness you're here is one of the funniest games I've ever played easily.

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I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud this often.

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The visuals are endlessly charming.

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The voice acting is absolute perfection.

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The music is great.

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And it's just so funny.

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Now big asterisks.

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I am English, half northern, half midlander.

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So much of what's hilarious about thank goodness is based in extremely specific references

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and general vibes from northern English culture between the 70s and the noughties.

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I may have been bordering on tears seeing a shop called Price Shaggers and seeing the

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perfectly named products inside.

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But I can't help but wonder if this game might just make an American's head explode.

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Oh yeah.

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I definitely agree that they will be.

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Well, that's what I said to you earlier.

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When you went into the settings, which was faff, you could, you could fuck about with

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it and it's like, Oh, turn subtitles on.

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It also had a dialect intensity setting.

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It's so you could, I'd be intrigued to do another play through with turn that down,

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write down whether like how much that makes a significant difference.

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We are at Chuck, get out kid.

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I want you to fucking do it.

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You silly bastard.

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Yeah.

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It turns it right down to like fucking standard, like normal northern English or does it proper

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like, he goes on to say that, all right, I'm going to fucking come clean your pipe.

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You're fucking silly bitch.

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It's ridiculous.

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But I loved everything.

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Like we said, we understand all of it.

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And I have reverse a Northern, but it's, I don't know.

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I, if you're not from England, the, the Southern and Northern divide is well, and it's established.

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No one really knows where the line begins, where it's cut, where it's separated in the,

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in England.

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Um, but I love Northerners more than I love Southerners.

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I absolutely love Northerners.

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There's a lot more character to them.

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They're just so fucking like non-serious, serious people.

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They get shit done, but with a meat pie in their hands and a fucking tub of gravy.

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But it's just, I just love them.

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It's fantastic.

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Um, expressing goes on to say, says, um, that might be what I love most about thank goodness.

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Um, though it is, it absolutely refuses to compromise when depicting the Yorkshire essence

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and culture.

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It may be an incredibly small subject of gamers who can actually enjoy this, but by God will

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the people who this is made for love it.

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And you can feel just how much love is in the developers for this, for this county for

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this, um, dialect and cultural reference point, despite some often grotesque and unflattery

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imagery, it never feels mean spirited instead.

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Thank goodness depicts people and culture with honesty and, uh, and humor that is more

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respectfully more respectful than if they'd avoided anything potentially offensive.

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It is great.

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Like it's, it's probably when, um, it's probably tongue in cheek humor.

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Well, you, you, you can, it's there, it's implied.

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And it's just like, it has it out as it is in front of you going, oh, like, what was

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the questions that Sam asked on, on, on the last episode that we did, um, like best gamer

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this year, best hidden gem, best antagonist, best protagonist.

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Best, best, uh, best game, best console, best soundtrack, best expansion, best hidden gem.

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Well, that fills that fucking category.

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Oh yeah.

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Best hidden gem is thank goodness you're here.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Which I believe is on every, is on every console, including switch.

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I'm pretty sure I it's, I don't know how you can capture the essence of just fucking even

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down to the menu man, where it's just, it's just a, uh, images of just the North.

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Yeah, I think it's think it said it had, um, agreement with some sort of light museum for

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the town that they were trying to portray.

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So it had some sort of agreement and it was using photos and imagery and videos that they'd

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obviously they're taken back from like the, whenever it was meant to be like 60 seventies

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and was using them in the, in the shots and like the menu screen that had, you know, the

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slightly blurred out texture of what, what it used to look like and everything very like

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old mining town or coal town.

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But you've just got, you just got like the witty imagery in the background and the drawings

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and the little character designs are all unique and different and saw Mark Manister on there.

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Oh, Mark Manister.

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It's just great.

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I just, I just absolutely love it.

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And then the fucking the fishmonger where you're slapping his cock.

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I didn't even realize you could do that.

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I didn't even know that was a thing.

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He set up his stall a couple of times.

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There's like, there's like three areas in the game or maybe four that you sort of keep

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looping background to.

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And then there's one with a, with like a parade of shops and there's a fishmongers in it.

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And you basically, you just keep getting sent on a series of quests.

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It's always like you're doing, you've got your main mission.

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Like you're a traveling salesman.

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You're meant to bring whatever, I don't even know what product you meant to be bringing

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to the town.

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I have no idea.

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Like it's not described and you're just dropped off in town and then it's just, oh, you need

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to speak to the mayor, but the mayor's busy.

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So you need to kill some time, kill some time.

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And you just go out in town and everyone's just like, Oh, because I think there is a

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trophy if you just sit in the waiting room.

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You just wait.

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I noticed that it's 15 minutes.

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I think it's and it's just, well, you're here.

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Like, Oh, thank goodness you're here.

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Yeah.

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And I've got, you need to fucking set my fish out, please.

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Yeah.

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So first, I think it starts with, um, what is it?

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There's, there's someone it's the, you need to go get the bar.

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Chippies locked up or something.

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You need to get the butter from the fucking little fat guys.

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Some fat little wallet, but he's trying to get, he's got, I'll put the hand down drain

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to get toppers.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pretty much.

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You got to go and get some fucking to get him out, but you need to do different little

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steps to unlock doors and find the way in and way through it.

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It's just, it's bizarre, but at the same time it's funny and it's, it's quirky.

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Really, really weird.

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And like I say, there's this fish mongers where every time you end up popping into a

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shop, whether you're quickly walking through or something, um, he's got different fish

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set up on his, on his counter that you have to smack to like set them up.

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And like one time you'll hit them and then the cigarettes pop out of their fucking mouths.

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But yeah, there's just this one where I never actually did it, but saw a clip of it.

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And there's like the series of, of pink fish set up on the counter.

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And then this one where it looks like the tail end of the fish.

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And then if you slap it enough, he basically comes himself bigger and bigger.

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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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It's fucking, it's just so stupid.

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Oh no, I'm about to.

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And then the fucking, like the, the rats in the bargain shop thing.

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We got, we got upstairs, like into the loft where there's these rats.

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Um, it's just like a normal corner shop.

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Yeah.

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And then there's like a whole fucking, um, like cathedral to one side.

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And then when you go to the other side, it's just an exact replica of the shop that you've

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just been in, but with the fucking rats instead, it's just, it's very difficult to portray

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the humor verbally without having a visual.

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One that needs to be played and you kind of need to pursue the, the aspect of, of looking

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around in all the different shops.

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Cause you do get new dialogue in different rooms.

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Every time you sort of come back, which, which does extend the game a tiny bit, but at the

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same time, you feel like you want to get into every little nook and cranny to find all this

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fun parts, like going to see the, I don't know if he was like a, uh, like a burger van

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and you jump in to see the guy and he's got, he just starts slapping his ass and he gets

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upset.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The burger.

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Yeah.

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And you can do that a couple of times.

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Yeah.

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It's just, uh, yeah, I can't.

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It's such a bizarre little game as well.

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Cause what are the, cause I'd imagine with steam, it must have, we must have, must have

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decent reviews across the board.

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I'd imagine so.

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Thank goodness you're here.

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I did see one when I was looking that was like, Oh yeah, it's a great game.

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And it said item refunded.

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I was like, what?

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Oh, probably because it's a short.

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Yeah.

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You played it and they managed to get your money back quickly, which is a bit fucking,

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which is a bit deep, but it's a bit.

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It's a bit deep in it.

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It's such a short game.

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You can still be within the window.

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1359 a minute released the 1st of August.

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90% of Metacritic, Metacritic 10 out of 10 on steam, five out of five on Eurogamer, blah,

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dee, blah, dee, blah.

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2.5 hours.

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It took me to do.

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Thank goodness you're here.

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Stuffed full of adult humor is like a delightful fever dream wrapped in a cozy blanket of whimsy

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and hilarity.

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From the moment I stepped into it's bizarre, charming, blatantly Yorkshire world, I couldn't

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stop laughing.

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The humor is both hidden in the detail and glaringly obvious.

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The characters are so quirky.

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They make your weird uncle seem downright normal.

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And the puzzles are more entertaining than a cat on a catnip on catnip.

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It's like the developers for a tea party with Monty Python.

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And we all got invited.

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If you need a good laugh and a break from reality, this game is your golden ticket.

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Thank goodness this game is here.

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Putting Barnesworth in brackets, Barnsley on the map.

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I think the thing that I love so much about it is I had no, I saw that one clip and that

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was the only knowledge I had of the game.

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And then I bought it and cracked on straight away.

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And it was, I had it downloaded for a couple of days and didn't play it.

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And then there was one day.

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When was that the, what day was that?

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Saturday, Sunday, Friday?

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It was whatever day you weren't in.

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Wednesday?

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Not sure.

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Oh yeah.

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It might have been, yeah.

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It might have been Wednesday.

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You text me on one of the days and I'm like, oh thank goodness.

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I think it was Wednesday.

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Yeah.

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Cause I was confused.

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Cause you were like, oh thank goodness.

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I was like, I was a very confusing message that you sent me.

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I was like.

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Yeah.

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I think Ash was confused by it as well.

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Yeah.

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Cause I said, thank goodness you're here.

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Yeah.

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I was like, what?

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The best game ever.

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What are you talking about?

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But I.

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And then yeah, you sent me the photo of Mark and.

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Me and Steph.

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Thanks goodness you're here.

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A hundred percent you should play it.

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It's fantastic.

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I was like, what?

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Yeah.

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Very confusing.

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I apologize.

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Sent me at midday on Wednesday.

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I was like.

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I started that with Steph cause I was like, you're going to love this.

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Um, and obviously didn't know the runtime of it and yeah, managed to finish it in just

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over two hours.

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And I was like, I am very satisfied because of how short it was.

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Yeah.

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Despite, despite it being a very short game, I feel like spending, I know it says till

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the 15th of August, it's on, it should be 16 pound, but it's on it's like introductory

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offer.

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So, but despite that, I think I'd even pay in 16 pound for a quirky little game.

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Like that from a very indie, from a very indie company that they make another couple of games

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like that.

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I think I'd be more than up for it.

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I was fucking, it's, um, like I say, it was just a lovely little break away from.

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Very easy and very not like, if you wanted to play it, you wouldn't feel like you were

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stressed playing it and there's no time crunch.

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There's no, you know, if you want to just play it, like essentially play a chapter,

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you know, you want to play half hour.

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You can play half hour and you can play it on very easy as like a steam get get steam

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deck game or a portable game because it's, there's two buttons basically.

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It's like the directions and one button to interact with everything.

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Yeah.

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And jump.

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Yeah.

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There's three buttons.

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You've got three buttons and that's it.

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Yeah.

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So there's no, there's no need to be like, Oh, I can't play this or it's too difficult

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or too complicated.

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Even the puzzles are not like, there's nothing that's really going to stump you.

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If you, if you can do a basic sort of side crawler, you know, most of the level designs

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are two day side crawlers apart from like the, the bigger open area ones, you know,

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like the, like the market or outside the town hall and things like that, where you can actually

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move around and go sort of 2.5 D but for the most part it's just move left and right and

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jump around and push things about and interact with people.

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It's just very, very simple.

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It's a nice, nice quirky little introduction with a lot of like slapstick.

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I'd love, I'd love more.

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I'd love more games like that, but I also, I'd also done a half, I don't know how you

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would replicate that.

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I really don't know.

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I'd imagine you maybe can get some DLC out of it or just leave it.

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I think it's probably good enough to have left it where it is, but I imagine it's probably

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because the lads who made it are probably from where the town is inspired from.

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Yeah.

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They go, all right, let's just start ribbing ourselves unless you add, you know, it's not

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because they're going for a specific experience of Northern that if they tried to replicate

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that necessarily like London might be a little bit different.

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Yeah.

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I don't think you'd get the same humor.

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You like, you know, it comes from a point of like that's Northern humor and like you

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can understand, we can understand it because you know, we're, we're from England.

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Whereas a lot of people would be like, Oh, I don't really get that.

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A lot of the foreign market wouldn't necessarily understand that.

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Yeah.

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Like, well, like that first review said, you are, you are putting this fantastic game out,

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but it's, it's going to resonate with such a select few, few people.

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You're not, uh, someone else.

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I literally saw that someone said, Oh, where is it?

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A very short one, a right laugh.

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And then someone's put, uh, right.

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Good.

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I think if you take the mic out of Sheffield at one point, 10 out of 10 wouldn't be insulted

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again.

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Would be so.

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So it's like, you know, as a Yorkshire lad, this game is bloody amazing.

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Play it in the dialect language for the best experience and true authenticity.

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It don't matter as you have a clue what's happening.

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It's not our fault.

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You don't understand.

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You don't understand.

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Oh, you don't understand.

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So soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft, soft,

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but yeah, that is a fantastic for a little cheap, little cheapy game.

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Very fun.

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I want to see more games like that, please.

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I feel like the ability, everyone always wants a triple a game.

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No, I feel like we have more fun with tiny Indies, tiny Indies that are like that because

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wait in 400 years for a game to come out.

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But like I've said before, you, you are given almost the freedom as an indie developer to

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sort of do whatever the fuck you want.

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If you, if you're not bound by an IP or no, if you get something like Rockstar or Ubisoft

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or Treyarch or something, it's fresh.

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Yeah.

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So if they, they come out with something like that, you will get the niche amount of people

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that will pay that will, that will, that will play that kind of game and go, yeah, that

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was fantastic.

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But then you've cut off the rest of the world.

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And when you're a massive developer like that, you can't afford to cut off 90% of your market

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because it makes no sense.

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You all right?

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No, just an issue where the, the top batter is for obviously, thank goodness you're here

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on steam has the tiny teams like maybe it's a sale or an event or something August 8th

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to 15th at 10 AM Pacific.

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But then it says it's presented by Yogscast games, which they're massive or had been a

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master probably still are, but were a massive like YouTube, a gaming group that for years

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now.

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I don't know.

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Maybe they've got some, I'll have to look into that.

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But if you're, if you're a big, big company, you can't, you can't afford to do stuff like

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that.

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Whereas I feel like with the indie developers, they, they very much are able to explore areas

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that haven't necessarily been explored and come up with ideas that are very niche and

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see if people do like them, if they don't like them, that doesn't, that doesn't mean

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that I'm saying that it's easier or less time consuming and more throwaway to create an

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indie game because I feel like, like with these developers, there's only two of them.

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So I can't imagine it's very easy to fucking make a game, especially even though it's a

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short game with that sort of detail.

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Yeah.

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Imagine it did take them a little while to be able to do all of that.

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Exactly.

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There's the, there's the art, there's the static artwork, but there's also the animations

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and yeah.

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So it's, it's very, um, I don't know it.

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Yeah.

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I would just like to see more indies like that.

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And I'm almost certain that are more indies like that because there's so many indie games.

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Funnily enough, as you've said that I've literally clicked into the tiny teams event, which obviously

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is presented by the old scars games and it's going through tiny champions.

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So basically it's an event saying micro studios, massive ideas.

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So this is, um, Tony teams return celebrating the very best of video games made by small

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teams from around the world, featuring discounts on established champions of indie gaming and

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hidden gems, as well as demos for upcoming games.

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So what they've said are tiny champions, which are rated by steam is animal well, which says

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10% discount inscription, which has a 60% discount, uh, abiotic factor, 20% off, slay

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the princess.

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Jesus, he turned me up.

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I did turn you up.

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Yes.

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Loud in my ears.

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Uh, baltro 10% off buckshot roulette, 10% off phasmophobia content warning.

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Oh, very quiet in my ears now.

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There we go.

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Is that better?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Dredge, Stardew Valley backpack battles, tiny rogues, uh, plate up vampire survivors,

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Dungeons and degenerate gamblers.

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And then there's loads of champion bundles.

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So, uh, like tiny rows and battle pack backpack battles, sorry, or in a bundle dredge inscription

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animal well.

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Uh, and then there's a few others, but yeah.

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And then it says a few upcoming ones, which don't really massively stand out, but, um,

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you know, thank goodness your here's on there and yeah, it just divides them up, but it's

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nice to see that there is at least a surprising almost at the same time that the yogs, crust

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group would try and represent a lot of indie titles because I don't remember that that

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was kind of their deal.

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They just, they enjoy playing games and everything, but I don't remember that being their thing

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that they were promoting third party, but it's nice to see that maybe that's where,

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where it's at, man.

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If, if, if you, people love indie games, absolutely love them.

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We're doing an entire episode on one game that's two hours long.

491
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Yeah.

492
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,480
We're equally on there where Stardew Valley was a one man band thing and that's massive

493
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,480
vampire survival.

494
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,560
And like Ash is big on it and Ash is big on vampire survivors.

495
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,760
So right.

496
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,160
You can make some seriously fucking, or even if you've got the idea and the, the passion

497
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:12,320
and the interest to actually get it done, the, these games are really good in the end,

498
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,440
you know, a lot better than some of the big titles that do come out.

499
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,840
What's Four Guys Indie?

500
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,400
Um, I imagine it was.

501
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,640
I don't, I'm not a hundred percent on it.

502
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,840
Um, Four Guys, I imagine that was.

503
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,880
Cause what other game?

504
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,880
What other game?

505
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,880
What was the game?

506
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,880
What was that?

507
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,000
Ah, published by, well it was published by Epic Games, but it was developed by Media

508
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,560
Tonic, which I don't think that's indie.

509
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,480
It doesn't sound massively.

510
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,760
The fact that it was published by Epic Games means that it did have.

511
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,800
Was, was, is Baldur's Gate technically indie?

512
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,080
Is that technically an indie?

513
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,520
It depends where I reckon.

514
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Really?

515
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,920
Cause they're independently funded in they.

516
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Yeah.

517
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:05,840
I suppose it depends on what your, what the actual definition of an indie project is because

518
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,880
I feel like technically Baldur's Gate 3 was an indie project in some respects because

519
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,040
Larian is a small studio, but they still had fucking like 400 people, but that's nothing

520
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:23,200
compared to like the companies that make Assassin's Creed or any of the other big games at the

521
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,200
minute.

522
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040
So the indie games are computer games created by independent developers.

523
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,680
A single person or a small team of two to 10 people can build such games from scratch.

524
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,280
Sometimes indie games are referred to as free because game resources are either created

525
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,680
by the developers themselves or taken from free sources, uh, created by individuals in

526
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,680
contrast.

527
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,400
So I don't, I don't know if that means that you hit a certain threshold and then you're

528
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400
no longer indie.

529
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,400
Possibly.

530
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,720
Um, let me just look it up.

531
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,040
Is Fall Guys an indie title?

532
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,280
I would say it's not, but I could be surprised.

533
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,040
I feel like is Fall Guys an indie game?

534
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,840
Because there, there, there must, there must be a, doesn't specify.

535
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,080
There must be a, I mean, not that it really fucking matters because it just says it has

536
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,800
to be made by independent developers, which like, but how, but like with Larian studio

537
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:25,400
is that so you've got Cold Supper to two geezers.

538
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,400
Right.

539
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:34,080
And then you've got Larian with say 400, say 400 people.

540
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,680
They're not both indie are they?

541
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,720
No, I think that's like, you could turn around and say that's lesser and greater indie because

542
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,720
you've got like,

543
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960
But I'd love to know at what point, at what point do you become a massive studio?

544
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Because Ubisoft would have been self funded at some point.

545
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Yeah.

546
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040
Every, every developer.

547
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600
It depends how far, how successful you get, I imagine.

548
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,320
But if you turn around and go, I think Larian by this point are no longer an indie group

549
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,320
because they're, they're independent enough that they can do their own titles, but they're

550
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,880
not independent enough because now that they've made Borders Gate, they've fallen into their

551
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,880
a different IP.

552
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,040
I feel like when they were making Divinity, the Divinity games, they were still indie,

553
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,400
but now they had the backing to make Borders Gate.

554
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,800
I feel like they stepped away.

555
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,500
They stepped into an IP enough that they're no longer an indie developer.

556
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:33,200
If they were to go do their own thing again and go do divinity three or another project

557
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,320
like they're planning, that will return them more towards the indie status.

558
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,080
But they've obviously had the hype out of Borders Gate that they're no longer technically

559
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,880
classed as a very small developer.

560
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,200
But it's, it's one of those ones that it's not like you're a true, they're definitely

561
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,520
not a true indie, indie developer anymore because they're not small enough.

562
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,600
They've had massive success from Borders Gate and even from Divinity that they had cult

563
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
following from the Divinity games.

564
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760
It's like I already had a lot of respect for Larry and even before they picked up Borders

565
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,160
Gate because I enjoyed the Divinity games.

566
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,360
Whereas at the same time you turn around and go, right, you know, now you've got a lot

567
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,840
of respect for Cold Supper because they've made a fucking great little game and you'd

568
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,840
like to...

569
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
It's not the only game either, they made one before this.

570
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,840
They made a game before this.

571
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Well they'd fucking hear about it, did we?

572
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,240
Cold Supper.

573
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,800
The Good Time Garden.

574
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360
What is this?

575
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,080
Was ist das?

576
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,080
I don't know.

577
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,080
They didn't make Untitled Goose Game as well, did they?

578
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,080
Did they?

579
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Who made Untitled Goose Game?

580
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,240
Let me look it up.

581
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,240
You look that one up.

582
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:59,440
But yeah, the Good Time Garden is one that they made previously.

583
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,400
Untitled Goose Game was a 2019 indie puzzle stealth game developed by House House and

584
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,680
published by Panic.

585
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,520
So they share the same publisher.

586
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480
That'll be why then.

587
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,600
The Good Time Garden is a short, surreal experience from Cold Supper featuring frame by frame,

588
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,360
hand drawn animation and an original soundtrack.

589
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:24,360
It's available for free from itch.io and Steam.

590
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,040
The Good Time Garden on Steam.

591
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Let's have a look.

592
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:35,800
They've got overwhelmingly positive reviews.

593
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,080
No one will hear that fart.

594
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
So Panic also did Firewatch.

595
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,320
Published Firewatch.

596
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Someone in this review said, slap some titties and butts.

597
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,560
10 out of 10.

598
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320
I'm here to say I wishlist.

599
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,320
Thank goodness you're here.

600
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,920
I'm freaking ready.

601
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,360
I highly recommend playing this game if you like silly puzzle games.

602
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,160
It's only about 10 to 30 minutes, depending on how much time you spend on slapping various

603
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
body parts of gameplay and no replayability.

604
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,320
But it's free.

605
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:12,560
It somehow manages to be super cute and cozy while being also being incredibly disgusting

606
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,560
and disturbing.

607
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,320
I'm for sure going to download the demo for thank goodness you're here now.

608
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Also moist.

609
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Oh, well if it's free, then fucking why not?

610
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Oh my God.

611
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,840
What is that picture?

612
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,840
What?

613
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
He's sending you dirty pictures.

614
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,840
It just looks so weird.

615
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,840
I'm looking at the fucking thing.

616
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,840
It looks so odd.

617
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,840
I'm ready.

618
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,840
Oh yeah.

619
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,840
I'll download that.

620
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Why not?

621
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,840
I'll have a fucking little go with that.

622
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,840
You're having another go.

623
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,840
So yeah.

624
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:48,040
No, interestingly, Panic is responsible for Firewatch, Untitled Goose Game and now thank

625
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
goodness you're here.

626
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Firewatch yeah.

627
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,760
So three pretty decent games.

628
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Yeah.

629
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,760
Stephory like Firewatch.

630
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,760
I haven't played it.

631
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480
I started playing it, but I haven't got very far into it at the minute.

632
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,480
It was a Steam Deck one that I was just like, I'm going to play this pretty much solely

633
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480
on the Steam Deck.

634
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Interestingly that they're all with all sort of interlinked just obviously the publisher,

635
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,720
but they're strange that they've that panic have not necessarily published a too bad of

636
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,720
a game so far.

637
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:23,400
I like it when a publisher sort of sticks to that sort of that metric or that rhetoric

638
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,720
sorry of I will publish these games and these types of games only.

639
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,720
These yeah.

640
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,720
None of them are very much.

641
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,840
There's no combat in any of them.

642
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,840
They're very much.

643
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360
You got Firewatch Untitled Goose Game.

644
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,360
Thank goodness you're here.

645
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Call of Duty Black Ops 6.

646
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240
It doesn't fit the fucking bill.

647
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,120
They're 100% an indie publisher where they want their niche of game and they're sticking

648
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,120
to it.

649
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120
What does that entail then?

650
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,120
What being a publisher?

651
00:31:54,120 --> 00:32:00,200
I'd imagine in the same respects as writing a book in that you go here's this book.

652
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Pretty much.

653
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,200
I've made this game.

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160
I need someone to get it out there and panic go.

655
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
All right, we'll do it.

656
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,400
We'll do it.

657
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,200
We'll put it on Steam and everything else.

658
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,960
We'll fund the difference to get your game on all these platforms.

659
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,960
We want a cut off.

660
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Obviously we want X amount off of what the profit is because we're the ones who got it

661
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,960
on these platforms.

662
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520
So would they be the ones that would be in charge of putting it on PlayStation?

663
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Basically, yeah.

664
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,160
They're the ones who went through all the hoops to get it out to the masses essentially.

665
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,920
So the other guy at the Cold Supper just ended up being the ones that made the game, made

666
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
it, polished it and got it already and packaged.

667
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:51,400
Because if you said it was on itch.io, that's basically a free sort of platform that run.

668
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,600
It doesn't run the same way as think like Linux to Windows is the way itch works to

669
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Steam essentially.

670
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:08,800
A lot of people make stuff before like when it's all just like an indie project or a what

671
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,120
when it's all coded up and everything that that's the platform they put it on originally.

672
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,760
Let me have a look on the old fucking Lappy Poop.

673
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080
And then I've never heard of itch.io in my life.

674
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080
I wasn't.

675
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:26,240
The reason I knew about it was because of like demos for stuff that hadn't quite made

676
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,240
it to Steam yet.

677
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Like there's loads like beta testing for a lot of the like VR sims and tabletop like

678
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400
builders that are backed from Kickstarter.

679
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,520
They tend to wind up on itch as a...

680
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,520
Punjum Muncher.

681
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,520
Oh yeah.

682
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,520
Life runs through.

683
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,520
The king is watching.

684
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Yeah, I think it's just another platform that doesn't require you to be on Steam.

685
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,800
I don't think it runs necessarily as smooth as Steam, but you tend to just, you know,

686
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,560
like old school when you were back in school and your mate brought in a USB and it had

687
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,300
fucking games on it.

688
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:02,300
It's kind of like that.

689
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,320
Oh, there's a game here just called Fuck.

690
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,320
No.

691
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Tic Tac Watt.

692
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,320
Decent.

693
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,320
This is...

694
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,320
But I feel like that's kind of how it works versus Steam, whereas they...

695
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440
Steam wants to fucking cut off everything and as soon as your game's on there, they've

696
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
got fucking RDM and...

697
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,800
Magical Girl Game Jam, hashtag 10.

698
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,280
These are some fucking weird, weird games I'm seeing here.

699
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Yeah, essentially they'll be put on itch because they haven't been...

700
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,520
They don't have enough...

701
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200
They don't have someone who's come along and been a publisher.

702
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,680
This is someone's just made a game and put it on there.

703
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,680
No skin.

704
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Oh.

705
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,680
It's called Geese versus Golfers.

706
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Okay.

707
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Pillow Fight.

708
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,760
I'll have to do some exploring here.

709
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200
There are games that you can actually buy, buy.

710
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Yeah.

711
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,840
So essentially like the people who...

712
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Cold Supper could have turned around and gone, right, we're putting it up on itch and it

713
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,400
wouldn't have had the massive like advertisement.

714
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,560
So essentially Panic have turned around and said, we'll pay for all the advertising, all

715
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,480
the trailers and we're also going to host it on Steam.

716
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Or whoever fucking made the TikTok that I saw of, thank goodness you're here.

717
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,600
They need to get some kind of cut because from an advertisement point of view...

718
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,000
I feel like TikTok and Instagram is definitely the place for that to be, for all of that

719
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160
to be hosted on because it's very...

720
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,120
I feel like the clips and the humor fits very well within that media.

721
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,040
100% like if I...

722
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Even long form, I feel like I saw the, you know, like the ending song bit.

723
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

724
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,640
The little sing-along section at the very end as the game sort of wraps up that I feel

725
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,600
like I started seeing that.

726
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Not understanding that that was what the game was.

727
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,080
I saw that play through and I was like, what the fuck is this?

728
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,080
It's quite funny.

729
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Here we go.

730
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:59,720
This is a, the clip that I literally, that I saw was from Mr. Stedge, S-T-E-J, 30, 30

731
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,720
and a half thousand likes.

732
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,520
Then there's another one, the top liked and it's a streamer literally with the clip of

733
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,680
him slapping the fishmonger's cock.

734
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,240
168.4 thousand likes, but that's just likes so the views will be higher than that.

735
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:23,320
So from a fucking advertisement, this one 56 and a half thousand likes, 24 and a half

736
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,320
thousand.

737
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Like there's, there's a lot here, but I'd never really know if that's...

738
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,720
Yeah, who's getting the...

739
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,680
Who's getting a bit of dough for it.

740
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Did I save anything?

741
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,160
I don't, I think I didn't save anything.

742
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Let me preface here that I'm not getting any money for talking about fucking Thank Goodness

743
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,960
You're Here.

744
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,240
It's just such a good game that I, we don't get paid to talk about games.

745
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,040
You're going to be fucking phoning up Cold Stuff for a bit.

746
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,280
There's no adverts, there's no advertisement on this podcast.

747
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,320
We don't get paid anything other than from the patrons.

748
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,480
So this is, don't listen to this thinking he's been fucking paid to talk about this game.

749
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,480
No, I haven't.

750
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,480
He wishes.

751
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,480
I haven't.

752
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,800
I'm not begging for fucking game keys.

753
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,800
It's 10 quid.

754
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,800
You can fucking afford that.

755
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,800
All right.

756
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,320
Let's not get it twisted there.

757
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Go on, go buy it and play it and enjoy it.

758
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,160
100%.

759
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,400
If you're, if you've got 15 quid to spare and you want, you want to have a fun two and

760
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,400
a half hours.

761
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Yeah.

762
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200
If you're just looking for that, you want to support a small developer that might make

763
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120
another game like it potentially, hopefully.

764
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Small developer that mind you, when I messaged them on the watch the buttons Instagram, they

765
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040
replied fucking instantly.

766
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Decent.

767
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,040
They were there quick time connection.

768
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,040
We'll have a quick time.

769
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,280
I'll probably mess him again going like, Hey, you might not be interested, but I've done

770
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,960
an episode talking about your game.

771
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,960
It's fucking sick.

772
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,960
If you're listening, hello.

773
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,920
So yeah, if you've got, if you've got a little bit of dough, if you've got a little bit of

774
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,160
fucking dough to just spend on a game, I just liked it.

775
00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:01,880
If like I keep saying for that little break, which I know gaming is your, is most people's

776
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,480
escape from reality, but I feel like you hit a certain point where you need to change a

777
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,480
pace.

778
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,720
You need to change a pace and you become a gamer where that is no longer your escape

779
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,840
from reality is your reality.

780
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,840
You are a gamer.

781
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,840
You love playing the games.

782
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:22,160
So therefore you, it becomes, it becomes your life and you begin to get stressed.

783
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,960
The war within comes out on the 22nd for early access 26 for normal people.

784
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,640
I'm still stressing over what fucking what you want to put to class.

785
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,640
I want to play still straight.

786
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,740
Doesn't matter.

787
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,240
It does not matter.

788
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,540
Regardless of what I play, my guild is going to run with me.

789
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:42,960
It does not fucking matter, but still I've made about 50 different characters and deleted

790
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,080
about 60 just constantly making characters going, maybe I'll try that and then go, no,

791
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,080
I'm not interested.

792
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Maybe I'll try that.

793
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,080
I'm not interested.

794
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:58,000
It's so to then find a game where you can genuinely just switch the fuck off.

795
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Yeah.

796
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,440
Just enjoy, just enjoy the little ride.

797
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,240
But like I say, the laughing, you know, how, you know, how rare it is to be able to find

798
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,360
a game that you play on your own that actually makes you laugh.

799
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,460
So playing together, you can play almost any game together and have an interesting one

800
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:17,960
if they did a little co-op section, like because that's what, that's what entitled did that

801
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,680
they eventually had a co-op aspect to the game that if you could, you could then play

802
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:29,520
do expand the game might again and then make it have a cop ability to it would be quite

803
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,520
interesting.

804
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Yeah.

805
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,520
Yeah.

806
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,320
Cause it, it, it's like, it's very, very subjective.

807
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,720
Cause as we said, throughout this podcast, there will be a lot of people that would play

808
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,480
that game and not understand the humor whatsoever.

809
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,920
They will not get what the fuck's going on.

810
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
It might be funny at all.

811
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,520
They might just think it's a bit disgusting.

812
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Yeah.

813
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,520
They might as well.

814
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,320
It's crude, crude humor that appealed to us massively.

815
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,320
Massively.

816
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,320
I was all over it.

817
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:04,080
So it's, I mean, my, my expert advice is to continue doing what you're doing, bring out

818
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,360
more games like that.

819
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,000
It was fucking fantastic.

820
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,640
And I want to play more of them because I'm prepared to fucking, yeah, I'm happy to put

821
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,640
money down.

822
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,640
Yeah.

823
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,680
I'm like, oh, I'll fucking, I, it's not like what's the button sponsors.

824
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Thank goodness you're here.

825
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,720
It's not like when you, when you sink say, I dunno, like 10 hours into a game and then

826
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,440
you finally realize that it's shit and you go, well, I've wasted 10 hours of my life

827
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,440
here.

828
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,680
That was a bit of a whiff or like I finished brand ball the other week.

829
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Yeah.

830
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,680
That was very good.

831
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,800
Wasn't fantastic, but it was, but still enjoyable.

832
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Yeah.

833
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,240
It was an enjoyable game and it was a quick game and it's, it's whether that's the fucking

834
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:56,120
tick top brain rot, give me the instant dopamine hit fucking bang, bang, bang.

835
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,280
But I've always struggled with playing long games like that unless they really, really

836
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,280
captivate me.

837
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,280
Yeah.

838
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,440
I feel like we've all moved that way.

839
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Now I feel like some games are just too long and they're filled with too much shit.

840
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Mm.

841
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,480
Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

842
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,240
Well, I was saying that to Stefan the patron.

843
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,640
Just Assassin's Creed games.

844
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Now they're fucking far too long.

845
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Yeah.

846
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,760
But Mirage was, was, was a decent length I felt, but it just didn't have enough depth

847
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,760
in it.

848
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,760
True.

849
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,120
And I'm hoping that that it's fine.

850
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,920
I suppose in gaming it's finding that balance where the game is long enough, but doing too

851
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,920
much.

852
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,760
Like I feel filmaturg is also the game I've been playing and that's that followed up from

853
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,760
playing.

854
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,760
Thank goodness you're here.

855
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,280
And I was like, I'm enjoying it still, but there's a lot of fucking filler.

856
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,360
It isn't all just do these main story missions.

857
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:50,560
There's a lot of like, Oh, go fucking interact with some fucking like stenograph thing, which

858
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,340
basically gives you a photo of a section in town.

859
00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:56,340
It's like, go find that and look at it again.

860
00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:00,840
And then you get experience points to develop yourself and fucking find little secrets around

861
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,800
town and then you can go to a door and get a fucking sketchbook.

862
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,920
Yeah, like image and then like a little paragraph about some little activity that you did in

863
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,760
town and all you're doing that is I'm only doing that so I can get the XP so I can build

864
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,960
my character a bit.

865
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,040
I'm not doing that because I really feels like you're just putting it in there for the

866
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,640
sake of fucking putting it in.

867
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Don't make big games and then just fill them with shit for the sake of filling it with

868
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,480
shit.

869
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Yeah.

870
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Keep them, keep them short and sweet, but then make it meaningful.

871
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,720
It's a balance that you're never going to be able to achieve.

872
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:36,720
Pretty much.

873
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,800
Some people will be happy for a longer game where you're just collecting shit.

874
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,800
If you got rid of the longer games and then you weren't collecting shit and everything

875
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,720
had depth and substance to it, there wouldn't be any long games.

876
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,120
So therefore you'd get people complaining that there are no long games anymore.

877
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,240
You go, well, I've spent 70 quid for fucking 15 hours worth of gameplay.

878
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,240
It's bollocks.

879
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,880
Or they take like six years to come out.

880
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Yeah.

881
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,400
And then the games where they take so fucking long, like I say, it's very difficult for

882
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:12,880
myself to speak so much about it because I complete so few long games.

883
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,880
Yeah.

884
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,800
Because I just can't be asked unless they, unless they genuinely grab hold of me.

885
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,000
But even then games like The Last of Us, I thought were long as shit.

886
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000
They weren't.

887
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,640
They're like 20 odd hours a piece.

888
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Yeah.

889
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,040
And it was because me and Steph were playing them together and I wasn't seeing her all

890
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,040
the time.

891
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,040
So it was, it was a lot more broken up.

892
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,720
If you're smashing through it, then you're going to see the end of it.

893
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:33,720
Yeah.

894
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,280
Or one that I must fucking play is Red Dead 2.

895
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,240
Like playing complete because I have played it before because of how incredible everyone

896
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,240
says that is.

897
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,760
It's a fantastic, the story is fantastic.

898
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560
The protagonists are fantastic.

899
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,320
There's little nigglies here and there and it's a fucking, and sometimes it's back and

900
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,880
forth, but it is a fantastic game.

901
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,280
And you've got the freedom to essentially, there's no fucking railroad in apart from

902
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,760
the story, the story.

903
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,360
But even then it's like, if you don't want to do a mission, you can just fuck about.

904
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,360
Yeah.

905
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Sandbox it.

906
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,360
Yeah.

907
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,360
It is fantastic game.

908
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,960
But another one that he has massive shoes.

909
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,200
If you're not up for it, like Mark's, I don't know if he's still trying to play it, but

910
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240
if he was running a platinum, you'll be there fucking out forever.

911
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:17,920
Well, he is trying to platinum it.

912
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,920
That's what I mean.

913
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,920
He's still not.

914
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,920
I don't know.

915
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,920
I don't think he has done that yet.

916
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,960
I'd like to do another play for a Witcher three, but I haven't got it in me to fucking

917
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,080
make the effort.

918
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,000
That's another one that I just feel like I'm missing out on.

919
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,320
It's a fucking huge.

920
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,800
I just can't be bothered.

921
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,440
But genuinely, I feel like that is the fucking wow addiction.

922
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,440
Yeah.

923
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Is, is you're going to take me away from that.

924
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,760
You have to give it to precious.

925
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,600
You're going to take me away from that.

926
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,720
I don't want to designate time to that.

927
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:47,720
I've got to designate it to this.

928
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:52,280
My little fucking, my little metal spoon with the lighter underneath it.

929
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,920
That's fucking digital heroin.

930
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Can't help it.

931
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,920
I cannot help it.

932
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,520
It's got, it's got a special sauce that is held for many, many, many, many, many, many,

933
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,200
many years and will continue to hold.

934
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,240
I can't do anything about it.

935
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:07,240
Send help.

936
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:13,800
Put him in some fucking psychiatric unit with a computer and a subscription to wow, please.

937
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,800
No.

938
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,800
See you later everyone.

939
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,800
We'll fucking leave it there.

940
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,800
Bye bye.

941
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Bye bye.

942
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Bye.

943
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,800
Bye.

944
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Bye bye.

