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No, it didn't catch it.

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Hello and well, it didn't catch it.

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We'll find out after we finish recording.

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Siva, your little witch laugh.

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Hello, welcome to episode 103.

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Whoa.

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I think 103.

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Fantastic.

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Steph's joined us, as you can hear.

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And I haven't told, I haven't told Steph what we're going to talk about.

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Because I'm going to assume that what I want to talk about is going to be enough of a conversation

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starter between the pair of us that we'll just be able to roll with it through the entire

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episode.

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You reckon?

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Of which we've done in the past.

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Okay.

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Now, I'll do the prologue.

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Okay.

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The prologue to it.

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I feel like we, so as gamers, I grew up in a, on my own, on an only child.

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Yep.

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Just me and my mama.

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So naturally when it comes to gaming, I wasn't having to fight over console time.

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And as a direct result of that, I am able to stink in, stink in, stink in them hours.

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I'm able to sink in long hours of gaming without fatigue because that's all I would ever do.

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And as another result of being an only child, I'm not that good at watching other people

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play games because I immediately want to play the game myself.

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Okay.

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Which isn't good.

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Whereas you on the other hand, pardon me, grew up with siblings and as we've established,

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Jesus.

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Are you, are you well?

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I'm good.

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As we've established.

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This will be my final podcast.

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That's salmon.

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Just had half a salmon for dinner.

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It did expire in April, but we won't worry about that.

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Yeah, but it was frozen.

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So yeah.

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Fine.

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I mean, you're very much able and find enjoyment from watching people play games.

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Yeah.

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And I find the idea of that so alien, but at the same time, I love it because it's almost

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like we're, we're meant to be because I love playing the games and you love watching the

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games.

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Not to say that you don't play an obscene amount of games because you definitely do.

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I would love to do a tally of who's played like the most games because I feel like, I

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feel like there's a potential that it might be you as opposed to me because I feel like

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you play a lot more, not obscure, but more mainstream games, but also a lot more indie

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games than I will ever play, which I'm trying to get into the world of indie games because

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I find I've got, I've got world of warcraft as my main bread and butter always will be,

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always has been, but I do quite enjoy jumping off and playing smaller titles like, like

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dredge.

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I was about to say it takes two, but I don't really think you can consider that as a smaller

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title.

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I think it was a smaller title, but it's kind of popularity.

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And then things like limbo inside just bought Bramble as well.

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All very similar, like horror esque type indies.

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So yeah, I'm trying to get into that, that world.

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The whole point of this conversation and we are, we are getting there is we've played

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many games together.

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I can't think of any off the top of my head.

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Well, what do you mean in situations where like I've been your sort of wingman?

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Yes.

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That's the, yes.

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Not games we played together.

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We've, we've, we've experienced many games together is the right word.

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And so the last of us part two, um, I started playing that without Steph and I got about

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an hour in and then decided, no, let's wait.

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And then I only played it when you was with me.

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I feel like that's why it felt like it took so long to complete because at that point

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I wasn't living with you and I'd only see you on the weekends.

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So I feel like that's why in my head, it feels like it was like an 80 hour game when you

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look at it and it was actually, what was it like 20 to 30 hours, something like that.

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Because remember when we were like, Oh God, cause I looked up how long you play as Abby

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and we were like, Oh, and you played for like, I think it was like 22 hours as Abby or something

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like that.

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But actually we ended up loving it.

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I could have been completely wrong on that play time.

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I bothered.

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It was quite long, but still, yeah, like you were sort of forced to sort of slow down than

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you otherwise would have.

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If you have been playing alone, you probably would have been not rinsing it per se, but

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probably getting through it a lot quicker.

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The last part two remastered is about 22 and a half hours.

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Oh God, maybe it's not that long.

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In length.

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If you're a gamer that strives to see all aspects of the game, you are likely to spend

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around 40 hours to obtain completion.

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That sounds about right.

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20 hours on one, 20 hours on the other or thereabouts.

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And then you have games like large, large snippets of Elden Ring, a lot of the Assassin

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Creed that we've played like Mirage, fucking God forbid old Origins.

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However, now this is where this is the meat of the conversation.

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Arguably the best game that we have ever played and it was you as my wingman and me as the

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player.

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And I'm sure you will agree.

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Detroit become human.

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And here is dinner served.

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Yeah.

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Oh, how good was that?

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Oh, if you could have solved that as an experience, because it was almost like, here we go.

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It was like the decisions that you have to make in that game, just your own mind is hard

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enough.

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But then you've got like, like the pair of us as a collective mind.

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And you've got to work out what to do.

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Like the flow chart and you'd get to the end and you'd realize you missed half of it.

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All the different things that you could have done.

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We finished it and I had work the following day and I was working at a place where I was

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starting at like three, four in the morning and it was way past the time that I was supposed

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to be going to bed.

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And I was like, I have to finish this.

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We have to get this done.

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I think in hindsight, by the time we was finished, it was like quarter past 10.

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It wasn't that late, but for the time that I was getting up, it was.

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And God, such a good game.

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So fucking incredible for the, for the people that, uh, that will listen to this.

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If you have never played Detroit become human, I out of all the games that I have ever played,

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I play it because I just don't get how you can describe how good it was.

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If you could, if you could play it again, like it would, you know, you think like it

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would have to be one of those ones.

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I want my memory like wiped clean and then to experience it again, like replaying it.

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And I think I did try and sort of replay it to kind of, you know, choose different stuff.

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And it was like, no, it just doesn't, it's not hitting the same.

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It's arguably more collaborative than when we played the quarry.

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And yeah, that's where we had like, cause that was like a parcel controller thing, wasn't

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it?

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Yeah, it was.

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And I don't, I did enjoy that.

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I didn't think that was quite good because that was, I want to say you bought it for

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you and Mark and then you realized you couldn't really play it.

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We couldn't, we couldn't play it.

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It was actually better as a couch co-op.

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That it was, it was designed as a couch co-op.

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And that was actually very unique in its, in its own way in that, yeah, it, it wasn't

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quick, here's the controller, like make a decision.

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It was, okay, you're playing this section now.

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And it prompts and pass the controller to play it.

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So, and then you pass it over.

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And that was, I would like there to be more games that would incorporate that because

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it, it, it for, it didn't force you to play together.

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But what it meant is that when you wanted to play together, rather than someone playing

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a portion of the game and then almost feeling bad and going off, I can go like, we're playing

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this together.

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You, you play the game itself says, right, you fucking stop, you play, get fucked up

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and then you can play and then you can play very, very nice feature to have for couch

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co-op.

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She's very nice, very nostalgic, nostalgic, but with a new take on it.

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And that's exactly that.

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Cause I mean, I suppose you probably experienced it with like having friends around and stuff,

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but couch co-op games or like, what would you call it?

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Like split screen, I guess it used to be called, isn't it?

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Like split screen.

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It was just like a LAN party type thing.

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Those kinds of games were more frequently played at my house, probably than at yours.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, there was that kind of like nostalgia thing or even like, obviously I ended up playing,

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I was about to say X No Way Out, but that's the ride at Thorpe Park.

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Was it a way out?

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A way out.

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Have you ever been on X No Way Out?

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It's the one that goes backwards in Thorpe Park.

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No.

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Thrilling.

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I've never been in Thorpe Park.

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Have you not?

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No.

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You'd hate it.

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You'd hate it.

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It's probably why I've never been.

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Anyway, a way out and It Takes Two.

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Obviously I ended up playing them with Luce.

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Yeah, because me and Mark played a way out and then we played It Takes Two and I don't

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have the capacity to play the games again.

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No.

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And she is my, like I'm the youngest and then you've got Charlotte and then Lou.

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So I know you know that better.

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And yeah, and that felt like really, really nostalgic because we also actually, you know

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Super Mario Galaxy, did you ever play that with a second person?

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No.

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So what was-

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Is that the one that was on the way?

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Yeah, no, I never played with a second person.

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And basically what the second player did, they didn't necessarily have a character,

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but you could just like collect the star bits and you kind of had like some more, it was

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like if someone like me, who's like, you know, like we were just saying, sort of a wingman

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if you will, or like, oh, look over there or try this or have you thought about that

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kind of thing.

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It's probably like the only game exists where they've given you like somewhat of a little

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physical role.

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Because your controller does have a little cursor and you know, you can go round and

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round.

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Which when you're, you know, however old I was, maybe like 12, was just like perfect.

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All I wanted to do, cause like you can do all the hard and stressful bits and I'll just

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collect all the stars and stuff.

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But like also helping, like as I say, it was just like-

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Yeah, it's beneficial.

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The perfect kind of game for that.

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No risk, all the reward.

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Well, yeah.

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It's like how, you know, like when they give like kids a little fake steering wheel or

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a fake mower.

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It was kind of like that.

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The we equivalent.

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Yeah, no, I do think that that is, I wish I like games like the quarry and stuff.

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Like I would love to play with like more like that with you.

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I think there was, there was, cause I was on the PlayStation store today, just trying

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to, trying to find something that, go on.

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It reminded me, we did have, we bought them, didn't we?

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Which ones?

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Oh my God, what are they called?

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Something like it never happens or it ends here.

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No, it ends with, oh do you know what I mean?

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Oh, something like that, rings a bell.

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Yeah, and we bought them, but we've not played them yet.

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There was a game that I saw that I was going to buy and it has Hopper in it or what's his,

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what's his actual name?

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Oh, David Harbour.

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David Harbour.

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He's like the main protagonist in it.

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When we're done with this, I'll try and find it.

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Yeah.

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And then we can have a look, see if that is like a co-op thing or not.

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But back to Detroit, become human.

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Yeah.

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I've got it up on Steam.

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Quantic Dream is the developer and the publisher.

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It says, Detroit become human puts the destiny of both mankind and androids in your hands,

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taking you to a near future where machines have become more intelligent than humans.

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Every choice you make affects the outcome of the game.

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Which one of the most intricately branching narratives ever created?

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With one of the most intricately branching narratives ever created.

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And that was released on 18th of June, 2020.

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Wow.

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I thought it was longer ago.

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Yeah, no, that we were in there.

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That might be it was released on PC.

247
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Yeah, no, it was definitely before that.

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Hold on.

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I'd be really shocked if it isn't.

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Yeah, 2018.

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So it came to PC shortly after.

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Ten out of ten on Steam with one hundred and two thousand nine hundred seventy five overwhelmingly

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positive reviews.

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It was Connor, Alice and then the guy who was in Grey's Anatomy.

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So Jesse, Jesse.

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No, that was his name in Grey's Anatomy.

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I think what we got is a little review from someone graphics.

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You forget what reality is.

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Gameplay good.

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I mean, I thought it was very good.

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Eargasm audience, teens, adults, game size, workable difficulty, significant brain usage

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grind, nothing to grind story.

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It'll replace your life.

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Game time is long.

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Price worth the price bugs never heard of.

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Ten out of ten.

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This game taught me that I'm terrible at making decisions under pressure.

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One hundred percent.

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I think it's easy to be nice to your Alexa.

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It's like it is.

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We're probably not doing great justice of of explaining the actual gameplay of it, but

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it is.

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Everything's a decision.

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Yeah, it's basically it.

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So you're you're essentially following a story of.

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Connor's the name, isn't it?

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There's three.

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There's three interlacing stories.

279
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Yeah.

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There's three.

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Connor's the the first one.

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The detective.

283
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Yeah.

284
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I completely I completely forgot it was interlacing stories.

285
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Yeah.

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What's the third guy's name?

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We've got Connor, Alice and Alice is one she looks after the little girl and they're trying

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to cross the border.

289
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No, no spoilers.

290
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Yeah.

291
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I imagine it's something I mean, did Mark play it?

292
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I think Mark did play it.

293
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Yeah.

294
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There was actually someone, you know, the woman at the start who's like the loading

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screen lady.

296
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Yeah.

297
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And you're sort of talking.

298
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She does have somewhat of a small role in it.

299
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And it was just like a clip.

300
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It was like A.I.'s taking over the world.

301
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This is what's next.

302
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And it was they didn't realize that it was a clip from the game.

303
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Of course.

304
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Because obviously she's quite real.

305
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Yeah.

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They thought it was the plot follows three androids.

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Kara, oh, Kara, who is a little girl is Alice, escapes her own her owner to explore her newfound

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sentience and protect a young girl.

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Anna, whose job is to hunt down sentient androids and Marcus, who devotes himself to releasing

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other androids from servitude.

311
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And yeah, these these these storylines all intertwine and eventually through your decision

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decision making, there's a load of different endings.

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And like I said earlier, there's like a whole menu of like like a web that shows you all

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the different shows you the path you chose.

315
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Yeah.

316
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Yeah.

317
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And it doesn't tell you the possibilities until you like bypass them.

318
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It doesn't tell you.

319
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It just it just has question marks.

320
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Oh, yeah, of course it does.

321
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Yeah.

322
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Yeah.

323
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And the the the gameplay of it is just purely, purely, purely story driven gameplay.

324
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There's no like I have to what you about to say there's no combat.

325
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No.

326
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No.

327
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I would say there's no but there is but only very minimal like free roaming type.

328
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Yeah.

329
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It's free roaming but linear at the same time.

330
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Like it will let you walk around the house and stuff like that.

331
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And it's more like the I seem to remember like with the combat, it was like sort of

332
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sequential buttons that you had to press.

333
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Yeah.

334
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Like it actually utilized.

335
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I wonder that'd be interesting to see how it sort of I know PS5 still has that little

336
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middle bit, but it used that didn't it the PS4 controller touchy pad thing.

337
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Yeah.

338
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Used that quite a lot.

339
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Yeah.

340
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It wasn't it wasn't like the audio in the controller.

341
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Yeah.

342
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It wasn't like a fucking like cod.

343
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You didn't pick up a gun and then pick around a corner and shoot someone.

344
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It would it would it would provide you with actions and every bit of dialogue interaction

345
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would would give would let you respond in a specific way.

346
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And that plotted out it was nothing new.

347
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I mean, that system isn't isn't a new incorporated system into gaming.

348
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What I liked about it so much is that it even though you're at the forefront of how the

349
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game plays out, I felt almost like very relaxed because it's just answering questions and

350
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a little bit of walking around.

351
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Time is a wonderful thing.

352
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No, no, no, no, don't get me wrong.

353
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Tense when you're having to actually answer the questions.

354
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I mean, an enjoyable experience.

355
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Yeah.

356
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Because you could sort of you can just you can just sit back in your chair and you can

357
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just walk around and then when the questions pop up, you can answer them and and bloody,

358
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bloody, blah.

359
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It's not fucking God of War.

360
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Last of us let me fucking run around and do all this crazy shit.

361
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And yeah, just oh, oh, I wish I wish there'd be another one.

362
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I don't know how there would be another one.

363
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I don't know how many endings there were.

364
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Yeah.

365
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Oh, God, I know.

366
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Probably like absolutely fucking loads.

367
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But I suppose it's kind of like I think you could find things that cut a similar mustard.

368
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Something like, say, I don't know, not to harp on about life is strange, but or like

369
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the Telltale games or something like that.

370
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But it was I feel like it was quite refreshing for that kind of genre, wasn't it?

371
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It was a new take on it.

372
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And I think even just having the three like the storylines, they are separate, but they

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do.

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So there's 85 endings, 85 different endings like they're separate, but they don't not

375
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affect each other.

376
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Yeah.

377
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I mean, you know, like and it kind of might remember because we watched it after the fact,

378
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but remember Humans?

379
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Yeah.

380
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Very, very similar.

381
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It was a television show, which unfortunately got cancelled, but kind of that similar concept,

382
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wasn't it?

383
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Where like this this business of robots then having sentience and especially in like bearing

384
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in mind this was I mean, Humans was probably about 10 years ago.

385
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This was at least sort of six years ago.

386
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600
Well, you've got like AI robot as well.

387
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AI now.

388
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,600
Yeah.

389
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,600
Okay.

390
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I know how this ends.

391
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:03,840
But I'm always interested by that by that kind of shit.

392
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,520
Do you not find like, you know, like that robot dog thing, like a robot dog looking

393
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thing.

394
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,520
Yeah.

395
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,520
And they're like kicking it.

396
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,520
Yeah.

397
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,520
Yeah.

398
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,520
And it's like struggling to stand back up.

399
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,520
That makes me feel sick.

400
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,520
Does it?

401
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,520
Yeah.

402
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,520
Why?

403
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,520
Because I just feel so bad for it.

404
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,520
Yeah.

405
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,520
You're just kicking it.

406
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,520
Yeah.

407
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,520
And it cleans up its own oil.

408
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,520
Yeah.

409
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,520
Oh my God.

410
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,520
And I mean, it is gone now.

411
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,360
But what did it finally die?

412
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,360
I think so.

413
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:30,360
I'm pretty sure it did.

414
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:31,360
Yeah.

415
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,360
I've been going for ages.

416
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,360
But like that is I don't know.

417
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,200
It does something about it.

418
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,680
It's mechanical sympathy.

419
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,680
Yeah.

420
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:46,760
It's a I feel like that is why when it comes to things like AI and robots, I would very

421
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:54,520
much be excited by that purely because if you present me with a robot humanoid, fully

422
00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:04,360
AI brain, basically, that is capable, much like how AI is now of answering the questions

423
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,240
and holding a conversation and things like that.

424
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,640
Yeah.

425
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:14,320
Even though it's just fucking metal and wiring and electricity, I'm going to consider that

426
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,320
thing sentient.

427
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240
Well, at the end of the day, what are we?

428
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,240
I know.

429
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,240
Just a bit of meat, really.

430
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,720
And so so you give me this you give me this robot and then turn around and go, you don't

431
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,480
have to care about that.

432
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,480
It doesn't have feelings.

433
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960
I'll be sitting there going, no, it does.

434
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960
It does have feelings.

435
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,960
Sorry.

436
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280
I'm telling you, that robot has feelings.

437
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,480
It's answering the questions like a real person.

438
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,320
Therefore, my monkey brain tells me that's a real person.

439
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,400
Look after it.

440
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:52,160
But even with cars, mechanical sympathy for cars, hugely huge with with so much stuff,

441
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,600
you just I don't know what it is.

442
00:21:53,600 --> 00:22:01,600
I don't know if that's a if that's a human to robot thing.

443
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,440
I don't know.

444
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,440
Everyone has it.

445
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,000
All with game characters and things like that.

446
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000
Yeah.

447
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:13,760
And you just feel very connected, you have a genuine care for for a lot of things that

448
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,760
you that you love.

449
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,880
Well, it's like, you know, I remember I think it's like on holiday and my mum had been playing

450
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,440
on my DS and she accidentally wiped one of my saves.

451
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,760
I was like, oh, God, they're all dead.

452
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Like I should be like, oh, no.

453
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,760
Yeah, it's odd.

454
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,680
And I feel like you're either you're either like that or you're not.

455
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,680
I mean, like, I know.

456
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,440
I'm sure I've said on here before, like, I'm someone who even in games, I do struggle

457
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,440
to be evil.

458
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,080
Fair enough in games where you're like, you're literally, you know, something like Assassin's

459
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Creed.

460
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,080
No, I don't give a shit.

461
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,080
Like, you know, that kind of thing.

462
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,080
Yeah.

463
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,080
But in other in other kinds of games.

464
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Bouldersgate.

465
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,080
Yeah, exactly.

466
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,080
Yeah, I just can't be horrible.

467
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,080
No, I can't do it.

468
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,080
I don't know why I can't.

469
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,080
I can't do it.

470
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,080
No.

471
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:59,560
And I think even if I'm sorry, even if I were to go on like, OK, on this run, I'm going

472
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to be evil.

473
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,560
I'd be like, well, yeah.

474
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Yeah.

475
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,560
Until you looked at me like that kind of thing.

476
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Because you just like how Ash loves to play the evil person when he's playing a game because

477
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,400
he says he that he's not like he can't be that person in real life.

478
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,160
So therefore in the game, it's your one and only chance to.

479
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,160
He's got an itch to scratch.

480
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,160
Got an itch to scratch.

481
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Whereas myself with with that kind of stuff, I how I'm how I am in person is how I want

482
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,000
to be in the game.

483
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:40,280
I want to put myself in the game, not in the sense of pure role playing like this is me.

484
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,920
Just the way that my brain works doesn't change because I'm playing a game.

485
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,920
Yeah.

486
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,640
As long as I can operate in the same realms as what my brain would allow me and what the

487
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:58,080
game allows me, then, yeah, I will try and be I think like, what would I what would I

488
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,080
do?

489
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,080
Not what would this character do?

490
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,080
What would I do?

491
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,080
Because this character is now me.

492
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,480
And like I've been in one.

493
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,160
I can't remember which game it was, but it was this situation where it was like a bit

494
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,160
weird.

495
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,680
But, you know, you kind of all well, you know, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

496
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520
I'll just, you know, I'll go along with it.

497
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,560
And then, yeah, it was like you're fucked because, you know, like, oh, and I probably

498
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,720
would be in real life because, you know, you just I can't.

499
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,480
I'll always try and see like the good in someone rather than.

500
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,880
I feel like I feel like if I was walking down the street and then someone pulled a knife

501
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,280
for me and tried to rob me.

502
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,480
I don't talk about that, please.

503
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720
Someone pulled a gun and tried to shoot me.

504
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,680
That's not that's not better.

505
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520
OK, someone tried to run me over.

506
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,520
Something's happened.

507
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,520
Right.

508
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,240
I feel like.

509
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,760
I would I would my instant thought would be what's happened for you to want to do this.

510
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Would it?

511
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,760
I think so.

512
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560
I do think so, because.

513
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,560
I don't want to die.

514
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,960
But at the same time, I don't think anyone anyone really wants to try and kill someone

515
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,280
to rob them for their wallet.

516
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,040
There's a reason why someone's doing that.

517
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Put the knife down.

518
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,680
Give me a hug and I'll fucking bash you for trying to take my wallet.

519
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Let's talk about this.

520
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,680
No, don't take it.

521
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040
And that's why I have nightmares about people stabbing you.

522
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680
I had a dream last night that someone was stabbing me.

523
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,680
Oh, funny.

524
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Funny.

525
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,680
Oh, was it?

526
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,360
Top left of my chest.

527
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,360
Right.

528
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,360
Yeah, I was fuming.

529
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:36,760
Oh, I was so angry because he come at me with a knife in the dream.

530
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,560
And I was angry.

531
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,560
Maybe maybe.

532
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,560
Real, did it?

533
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,560
Yeah, maybe.

534
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,560
But but so did reactions.

535
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Listen to the reactions.

536
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080
OK, maybe this is why what I've just said is absolute bollocks, because he come up with

537
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,800
a come at me with a knife.

538
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,920
And my immediate reaction was to grab hold of the knife and try and take it like basically

539
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,760
try and snap his wrist and I was just shouting at him because I couldn't believe this guy

540
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,160
was about to try and stab me.

541
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:07,040
He then proceeds to stab me like maybe 10 times in the top left of my body.

542
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,760
I was so fucking angry.

543
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,240
I was so and then I woke up.

544
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,640
What felt fine?

545
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,640
No pain.

546
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,760
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I woke up, had a drink and went straight back to bed.

547
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,040
But I was so furious.

548
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,040
How dare you?

549
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Well, I mean, how dare you?

550
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Steph's going to be so angry.

551
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,760
So angry and in case anyone's wondering why my reaction was just then, because I had a

552
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,240
nightmare the other night that someone was trying to stab Reese and woke up and was crying

553
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,240
and like gasping.

554
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,440
Reese was like, stop it, stop it, go to sleep.

555
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,440
Yeah.

556
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,440
Yeah.

557
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,440
But you know what?

558
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,240
The other dream I had and I have so many like probably like twice a year and like my mouth

559
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,520
is full of something and I'm constantly like spit like trying to get it out and I can't

560
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,520
get it out.

561
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,520
Horrible.

562
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Horrible.

563
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,520
Horrible.

564
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,400
Like imagine like that's probably fluff.

565
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560
You probably realize that that's that's like where we've got the fan on your mouth.

566
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,560
It's mega dry.

567
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,560
It is.

568
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,240
But it's like imagine just constantly trying to get it out and it's just constantly full

569
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240
and that's the whole dream.

570
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,840
There's probably some like weird psychological thing there.

571
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:17,000
But yeah, like I longed, you know, I dreamt that I was naked on a stage.

572
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,760
That seems like such a sedate dream.

573
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,760
I dreamt I had my fucking legs cut off and fed to me.

574
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Yeah.

575
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,280
It's just a dream of a madman.

576
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:33,040
I wonder, I wonder how a game would play out if it was if it was all centered around someone

577
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,320
going to sleep.

578
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,760
Could you imagine like, you know how the animus would work?

579
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Yeah.

580
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,960
And I know there's some sort, you know, you can you can do like the the VR where you're

581
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,760
on a like a hoist on you.

582
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,760
You're on a like a treadmill on like a 360.

583
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Yeah, yeah.

584
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920
Like that's kind of like getting there.

585
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,920
But imagine like something, you know, technology advances to the point where it is like the

586
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,040
animus and you're laying down and then like as far as you're concerned, you're literally

587
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,040
in, you know, 1798 in the middle of fucking Italy and you're this and the other.

588
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Like that kind of thing would be so crazy.

589
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,680
Like you close your eyes and when you wake up, you are literally it's not and you don't

590
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
get like motion sick from the VR or anything like that.

591
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,240
Imagine if you just didn't wake up low.

592
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,240
What do you mean?

593
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,680
Well, I'm in the animus.

594
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,680
OK, laid down.

595
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,680
Yeah.

596
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,800
Lay in this animus race and we'll send you.

597
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,280
No, we'll send you back to like you become like an ancestor, I guess.

598
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Yeah, something like that.

599
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:41,880
We'll send you back to whenever and then you're you're aware that you're in the animus.

600
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,600
Well, I suppose no, you're not because in Assassin's Creed, when they go back in the

601
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,400
animus, they're not aware that they're in the animus.

602
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Yeah, they are.

603
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
No.

604
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240
Yeah, like Desmond, he knew what Ezio was doing.

605
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,760
He knew what he was doing as Ezio.

606
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,880
Yeah, but yeah, but Ezio didn't know that he was.

607
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,580
Oh, sorry.

608
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,080
He didn't realize that he was Desmond.

609
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,080
No, exactly.

610
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Yeah.

611
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,080
Yeah, sorry.

612
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,160
He went and became Ezio, but Ezio didn't he became Ezio.

613
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960
And in doing so, Ezio didn't realize that he was.

614
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,720
You were viewing Ezio's memories.

615
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Yes.

616
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,720
Yeah.

617
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,720
Yes.

618
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,720
I suppose.

619
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,720
Yeah, because you didn't become that.

620
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,760
But you did become that person, because then when Desmond come out of the animus, he towards

621
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,720
the end, he had the the parkour skills and the combat skills and everything like that.

622
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,960
And that was, I believe, the original premise of like, you know, when it would be like,

623
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,460
don't alert the guards or like use the smoke bombs.

624
00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:43,880
It was something like that because you were had to complete the memory how Ezio did it.

625
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Otherwise you'd desynchronize, wouldn't it?

626
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,040
So like, don't get caught, don't get seen.

627
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Yeah.

628
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Don't kill this person because you didn't.

629
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960
And if you did that, you couldn't change history.

630
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Yeah.

631
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,960
What was it for?

632
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960
Oh, like dreams.

633
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Sit in the animus.

634
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:00,960
I'll send you back in time.

635
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,960
Decent.

636
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,960
All right.

637
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Now, am I aware when I woke up when I wake up in seventeen hundreds that I'm currently

638
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,120
in the animus and I've been sent back in time and I'm exploring this world?

639
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Are you asking me?

640
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,600
Yes.

641
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,600
Oh, yes.

642
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,280
OK, so I'm aware.

643
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Well, then that must be terrifying and exciting at the same time, because then you must have

644
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,800
that thought of what if I just don't wake up?

645
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,200
I'm just stuck here permanently in an animus.

646
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,240
I just couldn't do the toilets.

647
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160
You know, that's what would break it for me.

648
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,960
I would imagine that you just wouldn't go to the toilet.

649
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Or would you?

650
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Or what if you're like, never nap again.

651
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Brush your teeth.

652
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,600
Stub your toe.

653
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Probably get some sort of infection.

654
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,600
Die from it.

655
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Yeah, but you wouldn't get there because you're not.

656
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Are you immortal when you're in?

657
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Well, no, because you die.

658
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,560
That's the thing, every time you die, it would come up, play a desynchronized, wouldn't it?

659
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Yeah, and then you just come back and you go, oh, fuck.

660
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,360
Fuck that up.

661
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,880
But it would be, you'd be reliving memories.

662
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,520
You wouldn't be able to go back as a new person or take over someone.

663
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,240
It would have to be that you would just be like with the actual animus, you're just reliving

664
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,240
someone's existence, because then the butterfly effect would take over.

665
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Everything's going to be fucked up.

666
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,480
That's the other thing, the show that we actually didn't finish watching with Chloe Moretz in

667
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,480
it.

668
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,480
You know that thing?

669
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,480
I can't remember what it's called.

670
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,840
I stepped on a squirrel and now everyone shits out peanuts for fun.

671
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,840
No, that's not what it was called.

672
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
No, no, I mean, you know what I mean?

673
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
You know what I'm saying?

674
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Yes.

675
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,920
But you know, and she had that weird thing and it was making her like nosebleed and shit.

676
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Oh, yeah.

677
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,920
She was from like a random little town.

678
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Yeah, we never finished it.

679
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,920
And she was like weird.

680
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,920
But it was quite, it had promise.

681
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,920
It did have promise.

682
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:02,120
But it was, her body was being like affected by the fact that she was being, it was almost

683
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,080
like she was getting to, I feel like it was getting to the point where she was going to

684
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,120
be able to traverse the two without having the thingy thingy.

685
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360
Do you know the Black Mirror episode where they do that, isn't it?

686
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,840
And they're in space and it's Jesse from Breaking Bad.

687
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

688
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Yeah, and they've got like an avatar in space and then their real body's on earth.

689
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Yeah, and then he's with that other geyser, isn't it, and then it all kicks off.

690
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Because isn't it, he...

691
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,120
You can't then go back, he couldn't go back to his physical body.

692
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720
So he was, his mind was stuck in space.

693
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Yeah, and he took over, didn't he?

694
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

695
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600
That was a good episode though.

696
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,320
And that's most probably exactly what would happen.

697
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,360
And then you get like really, like when you get really paranoid about leaving your, like

698
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,600
leaving your actual body.

699
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Well, that is what the story was, wasn't it?

700
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,280
That he was paranoid that he was going to get fucking done in.

701
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,280
You would, wouldn't you?

702
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Well, no, without spoiling it, he did.

703
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,280
Didn't he?

704
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,280
His wife and kid got...

705
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,280
He just spoiled it.

706
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Sorry.

707
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Yeah.

708
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,280
But you would, wouldn't you?

709
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Everything was well.

710
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280
I'm in the International Space Station with one other person.

711
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Well, isn't there people stuck there right now?

712
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,760
There's literally people who are stuck on the space station right now.

713
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Possibly?

714
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Yeah, no, they've got like a couple of weeks left, I think.

715
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,600
They're in real trouble.

716
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,600
What?

717
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Yeah, they can't get back.

718
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,600
It's something to do with Boeing.

719
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Oh, of course it fucking is.

720
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,600
Yeah.

721
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,520
I mean, so I think it's a man and a woman and they're stuck on the, they're stuck on

722
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,520
the space station.

723
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:31,040
International Space Station.

724
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Stranded Boeing astronauts are stuck on International Space Station, NASA says in an urgent update.

725
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,240
The two astronauts stranded are still not able to come home, NASA said.

726
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Two astronauts went to space, went to the space station almost 50 days ago as part of

727
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,600
a test of Boeing's Starliner capsule, but the spacecraft was plagued by problems both

728
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,480
before and after the launch.

729
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,360
And since then, engineers have delayed the return until they can understand what went

730
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000
wrong.

731
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,600
The work is still not finished and the space agency cannot give a date for them to come

732
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,600
back.

733
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,720
On an update on Wednesday, test pilots Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams were supposed to

734
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:18,240
visit the orbiting lab for about a week and return in mid-June, but thruster failures

735
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:23,520
and helium leaks on Boeing's new Starliner capsule prompted NASA and Boeing to keep them

736
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,760
up up there longer.

737
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,120
Wow.

738
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,440
Not ready to announce a return date.

739
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,720
We'll come home when we're ready.

740
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:34,160
Creepy, isn't it?

741
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Just gone up there to have an affair.

742
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,280
Yeah, turning around there, they're leaking the helium out of the edge of the thing.

743
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,880
NASA had initially said that the spacecraft would be safe for a 45 day stay, though the

744
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080
astronauts have now been in space for longer than that.

745
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,960
The space agency has said it would be possible to stay for twice that and that when the spacecraft

746
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,240
goes into full usage, it is approved to stay for as long as 21 days.

747
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,800
NASA is last week completed testing on a space ruster in New Mexico, there's it's trying

748
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,920
to understand what went wrong during docking and to prepare for the trip home.

749
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,920
That's crazy.

750
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,840
Could you imagine having to get back in there going like, yeah, well, I mean, we're pretty

751
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,080
sure it's fixed now, but we run out of time really.

752
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,560
So if like, if you don't hop back on, you're probably going to like die anyway.

753
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,120
So in you get, I mean, it must be well nerve wracking.

754
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,080
I just think that what I turn this episode is I just think what a mind.

755
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,840
It's very spacey, futuristic theme.

756
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Yeah, any of the flat earthers listening going none of this is real.

757
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000
You can fuck off.

758
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
All right.

759
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,120
If you're listening going and it's your bollocks, look in the mirror, really understand what

760
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,240
you're looking at and fuck off.

761
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,240
All right.

762
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:44,880
Because you're living in a weird land.

763
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,880
Okay.

764
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,120
Now, now with the normal people that are in the real world, I can't get my head over the

765
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,720
fact of being in space.

766
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,080
No, it's mad.

767
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,400
I cannot, I cannot comprehend that.

768
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Like you look far enough and it goes dark.

769
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,640
I know.

770
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Obviously not with our eyes, but like.

771
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Or when we let Rue out and for ages, I must look like an absolute Neanderthal because

772
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,280
for ages I catch myself where I'm just staring up at the stars.

773
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,280
I love it.

774
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,520
For about five minutes just staring and I'm like, ah, this is mental.

775
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120
And this is genuinely mental.

776
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Or just staring at the moon and seeing the craters on it and going, fuck.

777
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,920
Like the just endless expanse of space.

778
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
And then you're like, oh, council tax.

779
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,720
You know what I mean?

780
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,760
Like, oh, you know, someone was nasty to me at school.

781
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Like it's literally just like, what the fuck.

782
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,240
I'm going to look up at the stars.

783
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,120
Oh, these days at the bins go out.

784
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Millions and billions of years old and untold mysteries that I'm currently staring at with

785
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
probably things staring back.

786
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,680
And all I can think of is that I'm in East Putney tomorrow and how long of a drive is.

787
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Yeah, yeah.

788
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Doesn't matter.

789
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,680
It does.

790
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:12,160
So turning around and saying like the universe is so big, like your problems aren't aren't

791
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,160
really problems.

792
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
You know, they are because I'm here.

793
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,360
Of course they are.

794
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,360
I'm here.

795
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360
They're my problems.

796
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,360
I can't just say, well, Mars exists.

797
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Therefore, I don't have to pay this mortgage because we're in the universe.

798
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,800
Like, I'm not paying today because there's a black hole out there.

799
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,800
I'm not doing it.

800
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,800
All right.

801
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,800
I'm not doing it.

802
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,800
It's just it's just it's so mad.

803
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,800
It's so mad.

804
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,800
I forgot what I was just about to say.

805
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,800
It's crazy.

806
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,800
Oh, that's it.

807
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:44,160
But like the cutest thing like about humans is to go like, oh, yeah, all this stuff, like

808
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,160
everything we've just said.

809
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120
And then you go, but we're definitely the only ones like we're probably going to be

810
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,120
the only ones.

811
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,120
And everyone.

812
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,120
They're all aliens.

813
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,120
And if they're aliens, they've probably got like no legs and they're all just here.

814
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,120
They don't even speak.

815
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,680
And they just clearly just, you know, walk around the planet and don't have, you know,

816
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,680
what we have.

817
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,680
They don't have like their version of the iPhone or anything like that.

818
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,680
That is so dumb.

819
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Like, of course, there's shit out there.

820
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
We can't even see the edge of our own galaxy.

821
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,280
Never mind the other fucking like billion trillion, like whatever galaxies there are.

822
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,320
My argument has always like our own solar system.

823
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,960
My argument has always been that as humans and life form on this planet, we require specific

824
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,320
conditions to be able to to thrive and stay alive like oxygen.

825
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,320
Yes.

826
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Carbon life forms.

827
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,720
My argument for it has always been, well, what if other things in space just aren't

828
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,200
made the same as we are?

829
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,920
They just don't need things like oxygen or water.

830
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,520
What if they need other things?

831
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,400
That's very possible.

832
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:52,360
How can you think of like how I mean, all of the depictions in Hollywood and stuff of

833
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,920
everything else and being, you know, it's always that we're being like overrun or they're

834
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
trying to attack us or whatever.

835
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200
But then you kind of go like.

836
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,200
They're probably they they're has there has to be like not a not necessarily like a parallel

837
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,200
universe, but like there has to be something just like this.

838
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,680
We can't believe that we're the only ones that go like, oh, oh, that this was really

839
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,680
wide.

840
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,680
What can we do to get across it?

841
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Oh, I know.

842
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,680
What if we build something?

843
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,160
We'll call it a bridge and we'll do that kind of shit like it has to be just out there

844
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,480
somewhere like they've got no interest in coming to us.

845
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,800
I thought like what really frightened me, though, was it was a little while ago, probably

846
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,400
maybe like last year, and they were like, yeah, we've sent some messages out saying

847
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,320
like, you know, get in touch.

848
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Why?

849
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Why?

850
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,320
Why?

851
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,320
Why?

852
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,320
Shut up.

853
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,120
I run with the idea.

854
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Stop poking everybody.

855
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,960
I run with the idea that we have been visited and are still visited many, many, many, many,

856
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:55,200
many times by a much more sophisticated and intelligent life form.

857
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,160
And we are essentially being kept as as not prisoner.

858
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,400
But I feel like other other life has come to has come to this planet and gone.

859
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,400
They're not ready.

860
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,760
They're not ready for us because all they do is all they do is kill each other.

861
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Yeah, it's all they do.

862
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,040
They're not.

863
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,040
They aren't ready.

864
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:21,040
They're prepared to blow up their own planet over things that don't matter.

865
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,040
They're not ready.

866
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,520
I mean, honestly, just take us out.

867
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,960
But that is but that's exactly take us all out.

868
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,520
But that's just exactly what I said.

869
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,960
But on a much grander scale of just because the universe exists, it doesn't mean that

870
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
my little problems aren't problems because they're problems for me.

871
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Imagine if imagine if aliens on a different planet have knowledge of the entire universe.

872
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,280
To understand just how vast and how much shit is going on.

873
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,480
They would probably look at our planet and go, what the fuck are they worrying about?

874
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,240
Look at all the shit that they've got around them.

875
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,320
We don't know about that.

876
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,320
So here's a nuke.

877
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,320
I'm going to blow you up.

878
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,560
But then don't you love it like you would you would imagine you don't go to a prison

879
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,000
and go, I'm going to live there.

880
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,440
You go, keep them there.

881
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,440
I'm staying away.

882
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,000
But do you not think that like fundamentally as a race like we are I do think that humans

883
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000
are cute.

884
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,920
I mean, when you think like I know there's all the dickheads and the dictators and the

885
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,560
you know, murderers and whatever.

886
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600
But like we just like to have a chat and laugh.

887
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,840
Have a little sing song.

888
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,480
I always find it weird how we're all so so unique.

889
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,800
But then you look at other animals and they're just not.

890
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480
But then I think we are polar bears.

891
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,900
They all look the same.

892
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:29,900
They all look the same.

893
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:34,760
Yeah, but then like chavs, they all look the same.

894
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,760
Okay.

895
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:43,480
You go to a club in Basildon, everyone's wearing a tight fucking t shirt and them little skinny

896
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,480
checkered chinos.

897
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

898
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Yeah.

899
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,480
Yeah.

900
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Yeah.

901
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Yeah.

902
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,480
All ready to go.

903
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Everyone on love.

904
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Rose tattooed on the hand.

905
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,480
Basically between.

906
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Could you look at a cast from Love Island that you didn't watch?

907
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Not like the handful of ones that we did watch.

908
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,220
Just love on that we didn't watch.

909
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:02,680
They literally look related.

910
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Yeah.

911
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,680
They go for the same demographic.

912
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,680
And that's the same.

913
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,440
I think and that's not me just attacking like people like that.

914
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,960
It's the same like emo people or you know any any kind of like.

915
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,800
That's not me attacking the pretty people.

916
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,800
There's the ugly ones as well.

917
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,800
I've been there.

918
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,800
I've been there.

919
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,800
Okay.

920
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,080
I've been called a man in Disneyland Paris.

921
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,400
I've been called a woman before when I had long hair years ago when I was getting ready

922
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,400
to get off a train and there was a there was a dad there and his little son.

923
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
And he yeah the doors open he said let the lady go.

924
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Oh fuck.

925
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Thanks mate.

926
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,600
Oh bonjour ladies.

927
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,600
Oh sorry and gentlemen.

928
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,600
I didn't eat my breakfast.

929
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Not gonna only rise today.

930
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,920
And this is why the aliens won't bother.

931
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,920
But yes yes I.

932
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,080
But then we're aliens then.

933
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,080
I know.

934
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,080
We're aliens.

935
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,080
You can't.

936
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,520
I mean that is that is as long as we're not in some form of simulation.

937
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Every single.

938
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Don't start doing that.

939
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Every single idea is just as as plausible as every other idea.

940
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Just one else is playing Detroit with us.

941
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Yeah.

942
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Just like how we were talking about the lottery yesterday and that picking numbers one two

943
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,280
three four five six.

944
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,040
It's just as good as picking random numbers.

945
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,080
It's the same fucking probability.

946
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,760
It doesn't seem like that but it is.

947
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,640
And it's it's the same with this in that.

948
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,640
Yeah.

949
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:33,320
There's as much chance that we are in a simulation as there is that we're not.

950
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,320
OK.

951
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,600
And I you know I mean because how how can you prove it.

952
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,600
You can't prove that.

953
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,600
Don't.

954
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,600
Yeah.

955
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,600
But then because then you're going to go OK.

956
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Well do you not have free will then.

957
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Do you not think that you have free will.

958
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,080
No I don't think that I do.

959
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,080
To be fair.

960
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:54,480
No because you are guided or we are anyway.

961
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,520
And I know there are people that aren't and that's why most of them are in prison.

962
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:05,520
But we are guided by things like karma or empathy sympathy feelings trauma trauma.

963
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,280
I mean I'm standing at a set of lats.

964
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:15,800
I'll be standing at a set of lats.

965
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,800
I'm standing.

966
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,800
I'm standing.

967
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,360
I'm standing at a set of traffic lights.

968
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,360
Right.

969
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,800
Why are you standing?

970
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,440
There's an old I'm waiting for them to go green.

971
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,440
You're a pedestrian.

972
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,440
I'm a pedestrian.

973
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Right.

974
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,440
OK.

975
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,440
There's an old lady standing next to me.

976
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,080
There's a fault in the back of your mind that says push her.

977
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Just push her.

978
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Right.

979
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,120
But if I had free will I'd push her.

980
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Don't worry about the consequences you push her.

981
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,080
But it's the other part of your brain that goes no that's bad.

982
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,760
Don't do that.

983
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,860
Don't let the intrusive thoughts kick in.

984
00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:56,520
If you really had free will your brain's coming up with those kind of thoughts it would act

985
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,520
on them.

986
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Because where are those thoughts coming from?

987
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,480
It's all your brain.

988
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,480
The naughty bit of your brain.

989
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,480
The naughty bit of my brain says push the old lady.

990
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
And that's why I always stand behind back to the wall on a tube platform.

991
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,800
Should anyone else be battling with the internal thoughts.

992
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,800
The call of the void.

993
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Yeah.

994
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000
Why was I talking about free will?

995
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,240
Oh my god this episode is just so not gaming orientated.

996
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,240
Yeah.

997
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,440
The first half of it was.

998
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,960
I believe in the very very first blurb of what's the buttons it says gaming and like

999
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,520
general chit chat or something like that.

1000
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Oh there you go.

1001
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,520
I believe we're in the general chit chat section.

1002
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Here's the general chit chat section.

1003
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,320
I just think that space is so fascinating.

1004
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,320
I think people come to expect it when you and I are on here.

1005
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,040
I want no man's sky.

1006
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Yeah.

1007
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Put it in real life.

1008
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Would you if you could if they you know something like I don't know Wally you know when they

1009
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,960
basically go well this planet's fucked everyone get on this big ship and we'll go and like

1010
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,760
fuck up another planet.

1011
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Or like they say there was an option to go or like passengers with Chris.

1012
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,720
Is it fleshed out and will it actually work.

1013
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:03,760
I'm not jumping in like fucking SpaceX and then hoping they don't blow up.

1014
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,680
The point being is would you go.

1015
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Would you go.

1016
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Would I go.

1017
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,280
What's the family situation like.

1018
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Oh am I on my own.

1019
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,920
Or is it just you and me.

1020
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,040
If Ru's still knocking about I can't leave her.

1021
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,920
No she can come.

1022
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,400
I wouldn't want to do that to her though.

1023
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,400
She'll be grand.

1024
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,400
She'll be alright.

1025
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,400
What are we dying from.

1026
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,840
No no no no no no no no that's not what I mean.

1027
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Oh this is just a genuine choice.

1028
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,800
Do you want to go to Tenerife or do you want to go to fucking Pluto.

1029
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,800
Which one?

1030
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,480
No I mean like they've they've like established another planet and you know there's like a

1031
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,440
resort on there all inclusive.

1032
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,880
Oh yeah 100 percent I'm taking the trip.

1033
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,880
Yes would you.

1034
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Yeah.

1035
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,520
What if it takes you a year to get there.

1036
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,520
But the ship's like decent.

1037
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,400
It's like a cruise ship.

1038
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Again I don't want to leave the dog.

1039
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,440
OK the dog is fine.

1040
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600
The dog's fine.

1041
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,600
The dog can come.

1042
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,120
The dog isn't isn't isn't an issue here.

1043
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Yeah she can come.

1044
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,120
OK.

1045
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,120
She's fine.

1046
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,120
She'll be absolutely fine.

1047
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,120
They've made it like dog safe.

1048
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,120
Dogs love it.

1049
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,120
Yeah.

1050
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,120
Yeah I would.

1051
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Yeah.

1052
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,120
Yeah.

1053
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Because why would you not.

1054
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Oh man.

1055
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,120
Travel for a year.

1056
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Yeah but you're traveling through space.

1057
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,120
Yeah.

1058
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,120
That's never that's not going to get boring.

1059
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Have you ever seen a single space movie where they're like everything goes fine.

1060
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,120
No troubles.

1061
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Nothing happens.

1062
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,120
Definitely no arc reactor that's malfunctioned.

1063
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Yeah but planes also crash.

1064
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Yeah I don't like them either.

1065
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,120
I don't like them either.

1066
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,120
But you're still getting a car.

1067
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Yeah.

1068
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:51,520
It's that comfortability if it was if it was if you if your mind was comfortable with it

1069
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,760
then yeah yeah of course I would.

1070
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,760
100 percent.

1071
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,960
And this actually is funny because I listen to my audio book in the car.

1072
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
I wonder if Connor because Connor listens to audio books doesn't he.

1073
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,320
If he feels the same when you listen to a particular like interesting bit of the audio

1074
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,040
book it really brings to the forefront of my mind.

1075
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,680
God if I crash now like so help the paramedics that come and help me because if my car is

1076
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,400
still playing this audio book I'm going to be so embarrassed.

1077
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,720
Like do you know what I mean.

1078
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:21,520
Well it does it does carry on.

1079
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Although you say that but I started chatting to Meg about it and she said when she flipped

1080
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,800
her car the music stopped.

1081
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,240
Yeah probably because the battery fucking because the car probably.

1082
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:33,000
She said it was a 21 pilot song and then yeah I mean her car yeah her car did break.

1083
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Her car died but I've but I remember seeing a I remember seeing a video ages ago of someone

1084
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,000
asking that question and they they had a car crash and they said no I can confirm the radio

1085
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,960
stays on at the volume that it was on.

1086
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,960
But then.

1087
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Unless the car cuts out.

1088
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Yes I think so when I stole my car it turns off the music.

1089
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,800
Oh well it doesn't in the van.

1090
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Oh yeah no I'm pretty sure if I stole my car it's yeah it stops.

1091
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,240
Yeah probably because it cuts out the whole vehicle.

1092
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,560
That probably might allay my fears because there's some parts of that audio book that's

1093
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,360
like I get even embarrassed at the fact that the dash cam can hear it.

1094
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,760
I'm like oh dash cam don't listen.

1095
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,760
Why?

1096
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,000
It's just parts of the book that just like very NSFW.

1097
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Yeah.

1098
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,000
I don't know.

1099
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:25,680
We'll leave you with all them faults eh.

1100
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Wait so other than wow what games are you playing this week?

1101
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Bramble.

1102
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Bramble.

1103
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Bramble I played a bit of Dead by Daylight today.

1104
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Did you?

1105
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,080
How was that?

1106
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Did Mark play?

1107
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:42,640
I wanted to play the 2v8 mode because it's a limited event until the 8th of August.

1108
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,960
And did you play with someone you didn't know?

1109
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Like is that what you did?

1110
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Yeah I played as a survivor.

1111
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,440
Oh okay.

1112
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,440
To see how it went.

1113
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,440
In a team of eight?

1114
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Yeah yeah yeah.

1115
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Did you win?

1116
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Yeah yeah it was very easy.

1117
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,520
It was good.

1118
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,840
It was fun but at the same time it was I don't know I don't really know what I was expecting

1119
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,040
because it's just exactly the same as normal Dead by Daylight just more people.

1120
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,520
No it's not a bigger map.

1121
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,520
There's more Jennys.

1122
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Do you?

1123
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,680
It's so weird my very very first like introduction to Dead by Daylight you actually couldn't

1124
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,240
join a game because there were so few players.

1125
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:21,960
Isn't that why you were like yeah I don't think it's got much more in it to be honest

1126
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,960
there's no one playing it.

1127
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,400
How Dead by Daylight has had the resurgence that it's had because I remember when it first

1128
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:36,240
came out it was popular and then it more or less died and then just fucking come straight

1129
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,400
back so props to the developers for keeping that one fucking going because it is very

1130
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,400
popular now.

1131
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,160
Yeah and like being able you know how they got in like they had the Stranger Things characters

1132
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,520
they've got stuff like that.

1133
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,000
Lara Crofts in it now?

1134
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,520
Yeah like I reckon that's probably got something to do with it.

1135
00:50:52,520 --> 00:51:02,440
There's a lot because you think the horror movie genre is incredibly large and there's

1136
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:11,920
so many iconic characters from Freddy Krueger to fucking Leatherface.

1137
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:18,440
There's just the Xenomorph even the fucking Demogorgon.

1138
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:26,480
There's so much shit and yeah like they're one of the only games that can really really

1139
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,920
tap into that with a replayable thing other than like a skin on COD or fucking Fortnite

1140
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,480
or some shit like that.

1141
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,680
Dead by Daylight does it really really well and they do the skins and everything really

1142
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,840
well but they're on the PlayStation Store at the moment like all of them and there's

1143
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:49,680
just so many that because obviously I haven't played it for quite a long time.

1144
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,320
There's just so much cool shit and that has to be the thing that's kept them but I don't

1145
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,200
know what it is about it because it's such a simple game and yet I've put so many hours

1146
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,440
into that game and can quite happily pick it straight back up and just continue playing

1147
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,880
for another couple of hours and then let it go for another couple of months and then back

1148
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,720
in again.

1149
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:16,720
It's simplistic nature but I don't know.

1150
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:21,840
It's just a very fun game but yeah I played that for a bit and it was good.

1151
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,680
It wasn't overwhelming.

1152
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,680
It wasn't underwhelming.

1153
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,720
I think it's something that as killers you and Mark would enjoy I think.

1154
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:37,760
Yeah because Mark told me to play as a killer and see how it is but I forgot to because

1155
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,040
I didn't actually see if you can I would imagine you can queue up like with a friend as both

1156
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,000
the killers which I feel like would be a very cool element to it because you've never been

1157
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000
able to do that.

1158
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,000
No.

1159
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,600
You've always been able to queue up with as a friend as a survivor but you've never been

1160
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,280
able to have two killers and you've never unless you've been really lucky been able

1161
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,760
to play as one killer and then one survivor.

1162
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,720
Back in the day you used to be able to do that quite easily because there were so few

1163
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:09,880
people playing that someone decided to be a killer and someone decided to be a survivor

1164
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,200
which is what we did quite often queue at the same time and most of the time you would

1165
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,160
be put in the same lobby so you could run around and not fucking yeah I'm gonna fucking

1166
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,880
do you in.

1167
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,600
So yeah that's about it really.

1168
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,440
I've been mainly playing like I've got like handgripped like crack out the PSP.

1169
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Well you've been playing ESO.

1170
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,920
I have been playing ESO and it felt really good actually.

1171
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Yeah.

1172
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,920
It was nice.

1173
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,920
Yeah.

1174
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,920
Mainly just learning what the fucking buttons are again.

1175
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,480
What's with the resurgence on that one?

1176
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
What's made you fucking scratch that itch?

1177
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,080
I don't know.

1178
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:57,160
You know like when you get in that lull and nothing feels like nothing's getting it and

1179
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:03,920
I don't know I just just like I bought I bought a little solid state drive to try and get

1180
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,920
Baldur's Gate on my computer and it didn't wait I mean I can't remember what I did.

1181
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,200
I basically just changed my mind I think or I did it and it was like pretty shit and I

1182
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,840
was like realistically I've got other options I'm not gonna take up this space.

1183
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:23,280
So it's kind of just sat there and I'd wiped the ESO off earlier in the year and yeah I

1184
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,320
just thought fuck it go again and it runs really well like runs as well as it ever did

1185
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,680
like from the from the portable drive.

1186
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,240
Yeah because I just had a new expansion come out didn't they.

1187
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:35,240
Gold Road.

1188
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:38,320
I mean don't get me wrong I'm not about to drop you know go back into ESO plus or anything

1189
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,240
like that because I think it's very especially if you're playing it casually it's not so

1190
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,800
I don't think ESO plus is necessarily something you need.

1191
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:54,120
ESO is a very good bang for buck in terms of like immersion and storylines it for the

1192
00:54:54,120 --> 00:55:02,560
casual player it's fantastic because everything is fucking voice lined voice acted which I

1193
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:14,040
find so incredible and there's such little pressure I'm envious of it.

1194
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:22,000
I'm envious of the way that you play ESO and any other MMO as to the way that I would play

1195
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:29,120
and do play MMOs because I feel like when I play them my enjoyment at the moment and

1196
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,800
for a long time comes from getting to the end game and making that character as powerful

1197
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:45,160
as I as it can possibly be made and doing all of the end game content which in an MMO

1198
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:53,720
is the main goal however there's so much other shit on your way there and then even at the

1199
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:58,440
end you can fucking skip all of that all the dungeons and stuff and I'm just envious of

1200
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:05,840
people that don't have that drive but aren't nearly as worried about that.

1201
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,140
Like I've I learnt very quickly to just leave it behind but the first couple of times doing

1202
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:16,760
dungeons it really pissed me off because obviously you have to skip through the dialogue of the

1203
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:22,920
quest because everyone else is fucked off because they've already done it and obviously

1204
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,960
once you've then you're back in a dungeon that you've done before and you don't need

1205
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,480
to do the quest fine but yeah and then what that then got me into like a bad habit of

1206
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,120
doing is just skipping the dialogue on everybody and then I think we both kind of were like

1207
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,880
hang on a minute what are we doing but they you know they didn't crack out fucking Michael

1208
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Gambon for us to then skip it.

1209
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,920
Vestige.

1210
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Vestige.

1211
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,760
And yeah so and like even just like yesterday I didn't have that long to play it but I was

1212
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,160
like oh fuck it and I just went on like did a delve there was a quest there and I listened

1213
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,440
to what they were mostly mostly what they were saying until he said well I started to

1214
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,200
harp on a bit I was like anyway and then yeah I was like oh well that was a fun like you

1215
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,520
know half hour because it was all I really had and then you can just like I feel like

1216
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,080
I've you know I've not stopped in the middle of something just a short little bit I've

1217
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,440
got some XP you know that kind of shit so yeah I think and now that I have it on there

1218
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,720
and it's not it's not you know it's not a choice between because obviously storage is

1219
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:27,560
storage is an issue for me except now it's not so like I'll probably I'll keep that now

1220
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,280
and then can just like dabble because I mean like so I wasn't I know like what you did

1221
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,240
with the crates and stuff like when we finished and you had we had like a build up of crowns

1222
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,120
and obviously you spent all yours and I was just like no I don't like realistically I

1223
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,400
know that we're about to both stop playing it I'm just gonna leave them there I'm a spender

1224
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:54,280
man spend it while I can so yeah the the rushing and everything is is it is terrible it's the

1225
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:01,640
it's the reason why why Connor doesn't play World of Warcraft at the moment it's the reason

1226
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:08,360
why when when I finally got him involved and and playing why he dropped out because we

1227
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,880
made the mistake of just rushing the geezer through the levels straight into dungeons

1228
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:20,440
just fucking spamming dungeons and it's very much the same thing in ESO as in WoW everyone's

1229
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,080
played the dungeons before everyone's just interested in get to the end kill the last

1230
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,360
boss get the XP fuck off rinse and repeat yeah because it's a quick way to level yeah

1231
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:37,200
which is that's absolutely fine but for the new player it's dreadful it's fucking awful

1232
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:44,360
and there's no there's nothing in place or there you never used to be that would prevent

1233
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:51,760
that WoW's made some decent changes in the instance of follower dungeons where you can

1234
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:58,200
now go into the dungeons solo and the rest of the party is AI and you can you can toggle

1235
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:04,520
between either having the party go through the dungeon at their will or they won't go

1236
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:10,240
they won't continue unless you continue so that allows you as a new player to get a feel

1237
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,760
for the character get a feel for the dungeon no one's rushing you it's the same loot it's

1238
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,640
the same XP I think when they first come out I'm not sure if it still is a thing or if

1239
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:26,800
they're going to change it but you could only do 10 a day which to be fair 10 a day is quite

1240
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:32,960
a large amount yeah but it was also only capped out to the dragon flight dungeons so level

1241
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60 and onwards everything before then you'd have to do normal queues with normal people

1242
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which is when everyone really does fucking rush right through so I'm hoping that when

1243
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the war of in comes in that they will make that for every dungeon make them all follower

1244
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dungeons because that just allows the solo player to have another chance yeah because

1245
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I really want Connor to have another another crack it it was really fun with ash playing

1246
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,600
it but like he said it's just not comfortable for him to be able to play on a laptop and

1247
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:12,760
that's his only option to be able to play it whereas Connor he knows that he would love

1248
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:21,000
to play world of warcraft it's just so extremely overwhelming much like how ESO is in that

1249
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,080
you've got all these dlcs all these expansions fucking where am I supposed to go someone

1250
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,640
turns around and says it doesn't matter do whatever you want to do that's still not enough

1251
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,800
no because you've given me a hundred different areas you're telling me none of the matter

1252
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,300
I just need to get to this certain point and then I need to go to this zone because this

1253
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:47,720
one matters I I still feel extremely lost because there's all these different systems

1254
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:55,000
wow is terrible for it there's a million different systems and now long redundant that must be

1255
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,240
so overwhelming for a brand new character who doesn't have someone that's guiding them

1256
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,760
because you'd go well what the fuck is this what is this what there is in well which I'm

1257
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:14,000
going to sign up for is a guide system where like with final fantasy and I think ESO does

1258
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:21,400
have one as well where for new players you can you have your own dedicated chat in game

1259
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:27,000
with mentors so you go in there you ask questions and then they assign people will help you

1260
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,520
out and yeah to become one and wow you have to have done 3,000 quests and then be level

1261
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:42,680
70 which I've done so yeah I'm going to become a guide to try and help people out because

1262
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,520
I just think that that's the main reason why people struggle with MMOs because there's

1263
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:54,400
so much hard to get into yeah but once you get into them they're fantastic I cannot imagine

1264
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:01,480
being a gamer that doesn't play an MMO I can't fathom it because they're it I mean proof's

1265
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,160
in the pudding you like ESO I like ESO you like it more than I do because I'm stuck with

1266
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:12,800
wow but once you know what the fuck's going on oh my god they're incredible because they're

1267
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,360
just always something you can go back to and you feel like you're a part of something and

1268
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,720
then with the guilds and the communities that you can get involved in with every fucking

1269
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:29,600
MMO like the guild that I'm in now I'm part of something which I hope you would find on

1270
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:39,720
ESO as well just to make it that little bit more inviting but yeah definitely ESO's leaps

1271
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:46,000
and bounds ahead of wow when it comes to why did you jump so much it was your phone really

1272
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:55,000
frightened me proper frightened you it did leaps and bounds ahead of like the new player

1273
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,120
experience is still not great but it's definitely ahead of wow but wow's doing a lot of things

1274
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:05,280
to make it a lot better so yeah right shall we go to bed?

1275
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,280
Always a pleasure.

1276
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,280
Go to sleep.

1277
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,560
Yeah actually I might go and watch handmaid sale with mum but at the same time maybe also

1278
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,560
is better for her.

1279
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,560
Okay for it.

1280
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Right thanks for listening everyone see you later.

1281
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,160
Uru.

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Ur.