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Boring, stupid, 9 00:00:52,680 --> 00:01:01,400 nerdy, Dungeons and Dragons. No one likes Dungeons and Dragons apparently in the. In 10 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:09,680 the yard. In the world. It must have such an awful perception from the outside looking 11 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,440 in. You know why? Because when D&D first came out back in the 70s or whenever it was, it 12 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,080 was all taboo and cult shit. Basically got hit with it and it because it was it came. 13 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,760 I think it's Gary Gygax and all that. They're all American. Is that the ones that made it? 14 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Yeah, Gary Gygax made it and essentially they all looked at it and went, oh, that's fucking 15 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,040 weird and it's spooky. It's getting the kids to fucking worship Satan. They know all that 16 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,040 all that fucking Jesus shit we talked about in the van earlier that America's a bit, you 17 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,520 know, a little bit extreme in their in their outlook and essentially all the all the Christian 18 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:51,960 moms didn't like D&D. And so for a long, long time when it first came out, it was seen as 19 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:58,640 a with massive stigma. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, essentially Stranger Things is obviously 20 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,200 what kicked it off again, but they didn't really make a big deal out of showing the 21 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,400 D&D aspect of it. Yeah, it was briefly mentioned, but because at the time they no one liked 22 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,480 it and it was like, oh, it's going to turn my kids, you know, special and gay or whatever 23 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:24,080 else. D&D is going to turn us gay. He's going to worship Satan and suck dick. You know, 24 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:31,080 it had a real bad rap for a long time till it wasn't even it was obviously had its place 25 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:40,000 in the world, but it wasn't such a big, big attraction. Whereas then people. It's turning 26 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:50,000 the frogs gay. Satan and suck dick. Oh, good God. So ultimately it went quiet for a very 27 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,920 long time. And then we Stranger Things coming out whenever the fuck that came out. Probably 28 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:58,920 like a while ago, man, probably like 10 years ago now. Halfway through filming the last 29 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:04,080 season, like eight years ago now that it had a little bit of an upsurgence. And then there 30 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,760 was a lot of groups of people that had been playing D&D from when they were very, very 31 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,640 young and then stuck with it because they loved it so much and it appealed to them and 32 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:22,320 their love of fantasy and story writing and collaborative imagination. Then it grew and 33 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,360 you know, with the rise of podcasts and everything that a lot of people then like CritRole or 34 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Dimension 20 and there's shit tons of other ones out there that they started to make it 35 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,920 big off the back of like Stranger Things going, Oh, D&D is kind of cool. And everyone it's 36 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:45,600 picked up a lot in the last like 10 years. So D&D is just really picked up. It's what 37 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,520 you make it in terms of what you what you're playing the freedom that you've got. But yeah, 38 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,920 but because of that, then you've got a lot of people that still don't understand it because 39 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:02,400 either either their older generation like like our matey from the yard is like, Oh, 40 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,640 that's proper nerdy, you know, doesn't understand it even though he doesn't understand how to 41 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:12,200 turn his phone on let alone like, you know, doesn't know what how to understand D&D. Yeah, 42 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,480 doesn't understand how to have an imagination and just be there with your mates going, Oh, 43 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,200 you don't have mates. It's like, well, you know, I've got enough that play D&D that yeah, 44 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:32,120 probably got more playing D&D than you've got alive old man. So it's, it's just I can 45 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:40,320 see why people would look at it and go that's massively nerdy. But nerdy is also subjective 46 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:46,240 into what you what you would call nerdy. Is it nerdy or is it geeky? Because like there's 47 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,720 a difference in the two. Yeah. But it's there's an element of just own it. If you know, yeah, 48 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,680 we play D&D but also, you know, most of our lot that we played with at the weekend, we're 49 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:03,600 all tree search and so we're all like, yeah, we're all men. It's, it's, I can only imagine 50 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,000 it as it's just weird from the outside looking in because it's like anything. It's like, 51 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,320 but how incredible would a session of D&D be if you had professional like with critical 52 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:21,280 world professional voice actors there and taking away that almost anxiety and fear of 53 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,560 really getting into character. 54 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:31,240 I went to their live show back in September, October in the Wembley OVO and there was a 55 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,720 fucking astounding energy in there. Like just maybe because it was everyone was a nerd and 56 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:42,760 wanted to be there for that event. But like, you know, I went to fucking, what was it? 57 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:49,640 I went to ACDC the other, the other literally like three weeks ago. That was dreadful by 58 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:56,760 comparison. It was so crap. Like, and that's like a big, they've been around how many years 59 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:05,680 they've been around. So shit. Oh shit. Compared to like, whereas I had such a better time 60 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:12,360 then watching fucking seven people roll dice in front of like, you know, eight thousand 61 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,400 people because just the energy was so much better when you got like-minded people. And 62 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,920 yeah, it must have for the outside, it must be like, Oh, what are all these weirdos doing 63 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,800 rolling dice? And you know, it does attract the stranger crowd of like the autism crew 64 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:34,920 and the ADHD crowd, but the non-binaries and all that lot. But, but so long as it's a welcome 65 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,560 place. That's where you get the, the, um, these people were turning up because they 66 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,520 felt like they were safe being there because they're with like-minded people. Yeah. Yeah. 67 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,360 That's why, that's why you get what would, what would be classed as, as, as the weird 68 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,280 people or the, just the alternate people where they like in Comic-Con and things like that. 69 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:59,760 Cause it is a safe space where people can, can come and, and, and be who they want to 70 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:07,360 be. Um, but I just, the stigma around it is just, I just find it, I just find it, I think 71 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,920 a lot of people, cause you're encouraged to imagine things and you're encouraged to use 72 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:20,360 your mind in a way that's picturing fantasy and, and escapism that, you know, you go, 73 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,720 well, what you like sitting there with your mates and having a good time and thinking 74 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,920 about killing orcs. Well, that's weird. Like, no, I'm, I'm literally sitting here with like 75 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,240 four people that I get on really well with and we're having a laugh. We're taking the 76 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,400 piss out of each other at the same time. Yeah. We're smacking goblins about, but instead 77 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,520 of I'm not doing it with, I'm not doing it playing a game like, you know, I'm not playing 78 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,080 Lord of the Ring, one of the Lord of the Rings games or like any, you know, like Valheim 79 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,360 or anything where you can go and smack goblins. I'm doing it in like- 80 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,120 But it's such a weird- 81 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,480 With little figures and dice. 82 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,640 It's such a weird, um- 83 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,360 It takes playing it to start to understand. 84 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Yeah. Because at first when I'd never played it before, I thought, well, how, how exactly 85 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:08,400 are you supposed to be a creative? And I'm just looking at a tabletop here. And when 86 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,840 you actually start playing it, visualize it for the people, for the people that are listening, 87 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,040 let me help you visualizing what it actually, what it looks like when, whenever we play. 88 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,040 You can upload, um- 89 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Upload a photo of it. Yeah. Yeah. 90 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 That you put on for, that you took of the tabletop. 91 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Yeah. And I took a, I took a photo of everyone playing it as well. And it's, it's literally, 92 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,440 we're all sat at a table with, with energy drinks and- 93 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Monster. 94 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:40,800 And all sorts of other shit and just sweeties. And it's just a fucking, a grid on the table 95 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,400 with a map drawn out and then some figures on the fucking map. And then we've all got 96 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,120 dice around us. 97 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Yeah. 98 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:55,840 And you are left to your imagination. When, when we're playing that, I can picture the 99 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,440 road that we're walking down. I can picture the scenery, where we are, what we look like 100 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,800 when we was in the cave fighting those goblins that fucked me up. I can imagine what they're, 101 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:11,800 what they looked like. And when one of them was sat on the, on the, um, on the bridge 102 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,960 above, I could picture that. 103 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,560 You could picture a little goblin, like, like something out of Lord of the Rings, like the 104 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:19,560 goblin town or whatever. 105 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:26,680 And it's so weird how you don't even sort of realise that you're visualising that. Your, 106 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:33,080 your mind is completely run away with, with what you're doing in, in physical form in 107 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 your, in your being and how you're talking and everything like that. It might be a little 108 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 bit different in that you're somewhat more reserved. I definitely am. 109 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Um, 110 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,360 The thing is you're, this is like, we've played two sessions. 111 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Yeah, yeah. 112 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,120 You've been present for two sessions. Like by comparison, I've essentially been playing 113 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,840 D and D for about five years now. 114 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Yeah. But don't get confused. Those two sessions are about 20 hours worth of fucking play time. 115 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,960 All right. They're not, they're not short like half hour there, an hour here. They're, 116 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:04,280 they're long old fucking sessions. And it's, it's you, yeah, it's just, you don't realise 117 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,000 the, I would imagine if you had the wrong type of group that you didn't necessarily 118 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,240 get along with that it would be quite difficult to get involved with that. 119 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,040 There is a whole Reddit of DM horror stories for individuals. It's literally called DM 120 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,040 horror stories. I think 121 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,360 On the old Reddit. 122 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,040 That have different people that do have problems with the groups they're playing with, be that 123 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,200 that it's their friends or be that that they've gone to like local game centre and met people 124 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,360 that they decided to play with, but they do 125 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,200 D and D horror stories. 126 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,680 There you go. 127 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:44,920 It's, yeah, it's different. Understandably, like if you've got professionals doing it, 128 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,400 yeah, you're going to get a higher tier of game that at the same time, I feel like my 129 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:55,920 play style or my DM style is quite, you know, quite loose and chill in some respects because 130 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,640 That's a long old 131 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Yeah, they are long stories. 132 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,080 So, so I just want to know if I'm overreacting here. Bear with me everyone, because this 133 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,520 is a, this is a lengthy one. 134 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Let's tell you a tale. 135 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,000 I'm about to leave this group because of how much they're making me hate the game of D 136 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,080 and D. So I don't need need advice. Like if you don't, if you don't like the group that 137 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,480 much stop playing with them because that's already the plan. So I'm in this group as 138 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 the only girl with five boys. 139 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Here we go. 140 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,640 I say boys because they never actually act like 141 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Women! 142 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 They're all older than me. 143 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,120 We're playing Curse of Strahd. 144 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:37,560 So that's, I would really like to get to that point with you guys because it is, it's probably 145 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:45,400 one of the pinnacle pre written adventures, but it's a fucking slog. Not in terms of it's 146 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,400 like 147 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Like Final Fantasy 14 type of fucking slog 148 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,560 Not that kind of slog, but like it's fucking actions have consequences. This is a fucking 149 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:54,560 meat grinder. 150 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 151 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:01,100 Like, expect your character to die, but expect like, it's meant to be a horror kind of lead 152 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:06,000 in one, but the, the introduction. So think where we're running Lost Minds of Vandelver, 153 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,600 which is like a baby adventure. 154 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,200 Essentially, and that's meant to take you from levels one to five. Just the starter 155 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,680 section of Curse of Strahd is meant to take you from one to three, but it's a fucking 156 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:24,440 brutal. It just trying to get to do different things like they're throwing monsters at you 157 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,360 left and right. There's traps. There's fucking the whole thing says, anticipate to lose that 158 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:35,720 character because it's just that bad and you have to be ready to expect that. You can't 159 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,360 be like, Oh, can I keep my character because I really like them. It's like, no, you're 160 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,360 we've ran it. 161 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:48,780 Yeah. We ran it with my other pals. We ran it with level five characters and it hurt. 162 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:54,560 We nearly lost level five characters in a level one to three adventure bit. This is 163 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:59,560 what I mean. It's fucked, but that's the whole point because that sets the tone for that 164 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:04,240 adventure is you need to be prepared to run. If you have to, you need to be prepared to 165 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:10,920 like hide or come up with solutions that aren't just there's an enemy. I need to attack them. 166 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:17,720 I don't like that at all. So we're playing with me, the forever DM finally getting to 167 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:24,040 play a PC. What's a PC? A player character. I was really excited and didn't want to stress 168 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,060 out the DM by coming up with some crazy builds. So I went for the silly, this would be fun 169 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:34,200 to play route and made a known barbarian. That was a bear totem barbarian because what's 170 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,540 funnier than the smallest one in the party being able to smack people with giant axes. 171 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:43,960 This is where the problem started. I made this little barbarian and everyone elected 172 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,320 me the meat shield. That's funny enough. That's what I fucking am great. Which is fine in 173 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,320 a sense. 174 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,080 You're into a fighter. So you basically went from having loads of health to now you've 175 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,080 got armour. 176 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,280 Yeah. Which is fine in a sense. I'm the barbarian that is part of my job, but it started to 177 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:05,560 become an issue when the DM decided to just never go after another PC. I was the only 178 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:09,880 one that ever took damage by anything that wasn't an AOE ability, which again, I thought 179 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:16,880 was me doing my job well. People were focusing on me so the rest of my party could attack. 180 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:24,640 When we were heading to the Abbey of St. Markovia with Irina and my DM decided to put a blacksmith's 181 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,040 caravan in the middle of the path because his friend was complaining about how few magic 182 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,200 items he had. We were level four and he already had three rare items. The party then argued 183 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:41,280 back and forth and taking the caravan back first so we could get gear. I was saying we're 184 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,240 so close to the Abbey, let's just go. Which made them all pissed off because I had a whopping 185 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:54,480 two magic items. Hill giant belt and Bracers of Defense, woo. I was already geared up and 186 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,920 everyone else needed stuff, which I understood in a way, but I also looked down onto D&D 187 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Beyond. I was the only one that had taken any damage that day. I was down to 12 HP and 188 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,400 everyone else was at full because they begged the cleric to use his spell slots to heal 189 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,560 them and I just went, I'm alright, I can take it, don't worry about me. During them yelling 190 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:24,720 at me about how they got scratched while I sit there with my guts pouring out, I look 191 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,960 over at the DM who I expect to have my back because everyone is screaming at me and I 192 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,840 realize something. I had been crit on six different times in that one encounter. He 193 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:40,640 had rolled six natural 20s in a row. Now I'm not great at math so if anyone wants to tell 194 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,360 me the odds of that, I'd appreciate it, but I'm so sure he was lying on his rolls to get 195 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:52,680 me to go down. Everything's AC has been harder than I could hit without rolling a 19 or 20 196 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:59,320 and things I as a forever DM know should not have had as much HP, just never seemed to 197 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,160 go down. Now I know people tweak stat blocks all the time. I do it too. That's not what 198 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,560 I'm upset about. I'm upset because I feel like everyone at the table is out to get me 199 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,240 and there's one more paragraph. Six natural 20s in a row. 200 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,240 In a row, that's fucking a lot. 201 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,240 That's not possible. I mean, obviously it's possible, but that's not possible. 202 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,360 Yeah, it's not impossible, but it's massively improbable. 203 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,040 We kicked off the other day. 204 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,040 You loved that one. 205 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,000 When you needed a fucking roll of 20. 206 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,160 I'm going to up in Darrell's little, he was pretty much hidden and I probably shouldn't 207 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,520 have made the roll and I was just like, I was going to let it slide anyway, but you 208 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:42,440 know, up to his AC by five, he was 18 already. I had to hit a 23. 209 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,440 And then hit the fucking 23. 210 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,960 And they have a plus, essentially the goblins had a plus four to hit. So it would have needed 211 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,320 a 19 or a 20 and it rolled out of my hand and hit a 20. 212 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Yeah, of course it did. And then he was like, what the fuck? 213 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Even I was like, what the fuck was that? 214 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,120 What? 215 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Darrell was like, I'm pretty safe. He needs a fucking 19 or 20 to get me. And he was like 216 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,480 watching roll a 20 and then hear them dice fucking slam the table and boom. 217 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Connor was like, fuck. 218 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,320 So yeah, there's a 20. He's like, right, well you're dead now. You're done. 219 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:19,360 So now I'm on a mission to get my little known barbarian killed because I'm thinking maybe 220 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,920 if this is going to be the case, I can try a new character and maybe enjoy it more. I 221 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,360 tried just asking the DM if I could change characters and I got guilted into holding 222 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:30,520 out. Finally, I managed to kill her off and bring in my new character who is the paladin 223 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:36,480 bard build I've been really excited for. But I don't even finish rolling on my death save, 224 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,160 rolling all my death saves and one guy at the table, the friend whose magic item count 225 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,800 is up to eight, immediately jumps in and goes, I take all our magic items. Items I as a player, 226 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,840 not as a character, had to work really hard to get because the DM did not want me to have 227 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,240 any items. I tell the DM, I'd rather anyone else at the table take my items because they 228 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,360 will actually be fair with them. And I get yelled at by the DM and his friend that I 229 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:10,280 don't get a say because I'm dead. They refuse to understand what I'm telling them. 230 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Sounds familiar. 231 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Yep. None of my items would benefit a rogue in heavy armor because they all play off my 232 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:21,960 unarmored defense and my strength. So why does he want them anyway, if not to hold it over 233 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,800 my head? He has no more attunement slots, they don't benefit him and he already has 234 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,520 more items than anyone else in the party. I then give up and tell them to do whatever 235 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:37,520 they want just to bring in my new character and everyone immediately try to kill her. 236 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,160 Am I overreacting here or is this whole table out to get me? And someone said run forest 237 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,160 run. 238 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,160 Yeah, that sounds like a bunch of- 239 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,160 That sounds awful. 240 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,160 Bunch of gimps to be honest. 241 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,160 How do you play with people like that though after? Because you just go, oh, we're not 242 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 playing with you anymore. But if you've got to the point where you are playing with them, 243 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,680 then you obviously must know them. 244 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,840 It's difficult to say because sometimes you can be like, I'm, so say it was like, say 245 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,680 I said you want to play D&D, I didn't want to DM it and then you joined my friends who 246 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,320 play. You could turn up and then they could be right cunts to you just because you're 247 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,280 new or whatever. It depends on that group of people because it's essentially like, we 248 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,880 get along well. The rest of the like our lot that we're playing with now, we all get along 249 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,320 well because we've known each other quite a lot and we get on really well. But it's- 250 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,840 I wouldn't like it if I joined in like, if I joined all of your other pals and then they 251 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,920 just ganged up. I would immediately switch off. I'd go, right, well I'm not doing this 252 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,920 anymore. Fuck you. 253 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what turns people against it because you can, if you're 254 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,640 at a bad table, a lot of people say no D&D is better than bad D&D because you could turn 255 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,120 up at a table. 256 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:54,000 Literally, no D&D is better than bad D&D and honestly this just seems like bad D&D. 257 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Yeah. So essentially, yeah, because it's all table bound. It's, if you've got people that 258 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:07,400 don't, that will, but like, I feel like I'm not targeting, I know it's bad. You've had 259 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,040 shit that things happen, but I feel like I've not- 260 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Completely battered, robbed, spat on, fucked about. I have taken the most bollocks out 261 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,920 of anyone. 262 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,920 Yeah, but that wasn't all from me. 263 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,920 No, exactly. 264 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,920 So- 265 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,920 From everyone. 266 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,880 I was going to say 90% of that was from your party. 267 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,880 Bullshit. Take that. 268 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Absolute bullshit. 269 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Take that up with Ash and Daryl. 270 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Absolute bullshit. Yeah, he didn't fucking like it when he got knocked unconscious and 271 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,560 robbed, did he? Wasn't fun then, was it mate? 272 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,360 Fucking bells. 273 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:41,960 You love it. You'll come back for more. 274 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Yeah. Yeah. 100% level two now. 275 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Oh, level two. They only took two sessions and about- 276 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,600 A long old time. 277 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,600 About 20 hours. 278 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Long old time. 279 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Well, no, that is it. It's just if, cause a lot of people, they find that the hardest 280 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:04,280 struggle for them is to get to a table. Be that because they themselves as an individual 281 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:13,120 like D&D, but none of their friends do, or if you don't have enough people to run games 282 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,120 with, like we- 283 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,240 Hold that mic closer. 284 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:23,400 Essentially we struggled with, well, when it was just the two of you, like Ash and yourself 285 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,280 and me, that it was harder because the adventure wasn't set out for that. I know I could have 286 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,640 adjusted it and made it easier, but obviously when Daryl had turned up, things moved along 287 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,880 a lot smoother that if you don't have enough people and enough, everyone that wants to 288 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,160 play because we've got not so many people, it does make it more difficult and there's 289 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,360 more work that needs to be done versus say you've got six people that are actually happy 290 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:55,240 to play and consistently, but then the more people you throw into it, the more difficult 291 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:02,060 it is to schedule. Like there's essentially three or four of us, not excluding obviously 292 00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:07,640 having Lisa there to help out now if she's free and everything because I can play a character 293 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:14,480 if need be, but the scheduling arrangements, so we can't now play for essentially a mother 294 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,240 month. So if you're that desperate to play, you have to then wait for this main group 295 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,240 to play that then you might turn around and go, I really desperately want to play D&D. 296 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,000 I'm going to find a table to play at. You might look around online. 297 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,160 It sounds like dirty cheating. 298 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Yeah. It's like looking for a party. 299 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,920 I'm just going to go and find another table because you're not what I need right now. 300 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,880 I need more and you can't provide it. 301 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Yeah. You can't give it to me. 302 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,320 I'm not getting what I need from this. So I'm just going to go and find another table. 303 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,760 That's what I mean. But at the same time, they also say that sometimes playing with 304 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,400 your friends isn't the best thing for you. 305 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Yeah. 306 00:22:53,400 --> 00:23:00,080 So like at the end of the day, sometimes the play styles of your friends isn't the way 307 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,840 that you want to play or they might want to play something very specific. They might want 308 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:10,400 to play political intrigue campaigns and you're like, nah, I just want big sword kill. Someone 309 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,840 might want a campaign, a combat heavy campaign, which will mean there'll be a lot of fighting, 310 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,800 a lot of everything, but there might not be as much role play and intrigue and law in 311 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,040 the world and whatever else that everyone's play styles are different. Everyone's tables 312 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,800 are different that you've got to find a balance that especially as you get more people that 313 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,400 you'll cater to everyone and then you can't focus on one person and be like, right, you're 314 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,880 getting every bit of attention today or on the flip side, you're getting bullied because 315 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:45,560 like that person's horror story, they're getting, maybe it is because they're a girl or a woman 316 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:52,080 or whatever, or maybe it's because they're an ex DM or whatever. There is no basis of 317 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:59,760 a lot of it sometimes, but if you do want to go out there and look for a group that 318 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,840 isn't your friends or isn't associated with you, that you will have trouble sussing them 319 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,400 out because it's like meeting new people at work. 320 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,840 I would find that so weird though if you do like, I don't think I could do it. We just 321 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:19,600 go around someone's house, some randomers house with a group of random people. Library. 322 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:28,840 Yeah, like library or you've got one not far from here, that Wayland games or nerd base. 323 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,280 You would go to those places and you say like you would might look on Facebook or Reddit 324 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,440 or anywhere that's got that sign of stuff and say, look, I want to play D&D. Does anyone 325 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,320 live around this area? Are they happy to have another member? Where was it? When I was in 326 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Braintree, there was a comics and records and sort of semi nerd shop. When I was in 327 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:55,240 there and by we were looking at stuff and Alicia bought some odds and sods dice and 328 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,240 whatever and I was asking them if they could were like what they had in and if they were 329 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,720 ordering anything in that they said, oh, are you a DM or a player? I was like, oh, I dabble 330 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,480 it or I do both. They were like, oh, and then obviously it got into do you run pre-written 331 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:18,400 or do you run your own stuff and got into talking about that. They're like, oh, and 332 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,080 getting into like, oh, would you like host for anyone or would you like join anyone because 333 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:29,480 they had people that came in that would host for people or would want to join tables. There 334 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:35,520 is also a thing of like you can essentially get, I don't know how it quite works, but 335 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,760 there is a way or where to find it, but a lot of people actually do pay for a DM. So 336 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,320 they've got like, say it was all of us, like the four of us, I didn't DM. 337 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,880 Let me Google that. There's a DM service. 338 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,240 You would like DM for hire essentially and have them run something for you, but then 339 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,760 you have to trust that they're a reliable and trustworthy and aboveboard DM because 340 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,640 you could get one who's an absolute cunt who stitches you up. Same as you can get players 341 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,240 that join your table who are massive like rules lawyers where they go, well, you can't 342 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,880 do that because dungeon masters for hire UK. Because the book says you can't do it and 343 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,960 things like that. Private game quote, corporate game quote, 344 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:24,560 online game looking for new players. But that's the same as like DMs for hire. Essentially 345 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,520 there's some people do it. I don't know if it's so big in this country. Oh, you have 346 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:40,160 to fully write out the subject number of players. If you want it online or in person time of 347 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,520 day, week, night, weekend. Imagine that. You should have done that as a little stag. 348 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Let's hire a DM. Let's hire a dirty DM. 349 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,440 I wonder what Reddit's got. Personally, I don't have a problem with any DM charging 350 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,320 for the services. It's a lot of work, time and money. I did say that to my mate Toby 351 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:07,680 because I was talking to him about D&D and he was saying how involved it is to be a DM. 352 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,520 I said after you showed me a couple of the bits, I was like, there's no way in hell I 353 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:19,160 could be a DM. I am not dedicating that much fucking time. It's a full time job. That shit 354 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,600 looks so fucking long. Sometimes it's not as bad. I would imagine it's bad if you're 355 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,120 meeting up every fucking week. If you're doing that shit every week and you're having to 356 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:32,760 plan that out, you're in charge of these people and their story. Fucking hell, you've got 357 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720 to remember everything that's going on. 358 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,760 If you're doing homebrew, you're making all that shit up yourself. I've got that. I've 359 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,840 got a homebrew world and I've got a lot of law to it and everything, but it's hard work 360 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,000 for me to want to work on it and hard for me to be consistent with that. Whereas at 361 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,080 least with the adventure we're running for you, I can just read that out of book. Essentially, 362 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:02,760 I knew the adventure. I hadn't bothered to really pre-read that because I was like, is 363 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,960 there in the book? At the same time, when you guys were starting out, I was like, I 364 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,160 don't know how much you guys are going to love this or even like it. Half of you could 365 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,320 turn around and go, I really like that. Then one of you be like, yeah, no, I'm all right 366 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,960 and pass up. Then essentially turn around and go, well, I've wasted time prepping out 367 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:28,480 for anything. I think one of my friends does it, they almost do it as a charity sort of 368 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:35,360 thing that they DM for some, I think it's their niece. They DM for their friends and 369 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:42,560 they're like young kids, eight year olds almost. They just do like little kiddie bits and pieces. 370 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,360 You've got to cater to your audience almost, but that's where again, it can be bad if you 371 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,720 go to a random table and you're like, oh, I'm a new player and I've not done anything 372 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:58,920 that at least I've done. Well, I'm trying to do as much exposure to different things 373 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160 and not make it so you're not enjoying yourselves and giving you as much information that I 374 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,760 can give you that you might not get at a different table if you were to just go, oh, I'm new 375 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,760 and random. 376 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:17,640 But what if we get rid of you, still use your house and your table and we just hire in a 377 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,640 DM instead. 378 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,560 Why don't you just bring them near to your mansion with 17 seat fucking table and you 379 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,560 can do whatever you want. 380 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,160 Because imagine doing D&D on that, on the Lord's table. 381 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,520 On the Lord's mansion. 382 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,680 Fucking hell, bouncing dice down that. 383 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Yeah, you've got to roll dice from one end to the other. 384 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,840 I don't know if I would like to do a session with, because what's the, is there a max amount 385 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,840 of people? 386 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,840 There isn't, but it gets difficult to balance and it gets difficult to balance time wise. 387 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:59,160 So think like there's, well, there ended up being four players and me at the end of Saturday. 388 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,800 It takes time to get around everyone in a combat round and then in a role playing counter 389 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,040 or whatever you want to do. 390 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 It takes a lot of time for you to get around to people, especially in combat. 391 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:19,800 I think the max we ever got on a table was seven or eight people plus the DM and it was 392 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,000 a slot, like it was slow. 393 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,520 And that was my first actual proper try of D&D. 394 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,720 We had probably about that seven, about seven people plus the DM. 395 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,080 And it took, I think we only did like three turns and it took hours, like three turns 396 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280 in combat and it took hours. 397 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,000 And it wasn't even like there was a lot of enemies, but if you think you've got seven, 398 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,240 seven party members, all with their own intentions about what they're going to do, whatever, 399 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,020 whatever, whatever. 400 00:30:48,020 --> 00:30:49,720 And then you still got the enemies to go on that. 401 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Like think that the weekend where you had like one of the fights when there was about 402 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160 eight goblins at one point and then there's you. 403 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 So then you've got a turn, you've got three things, like multiple things you can do in 404 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,880 a turn. 405 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Then the goblins have still got that much they can do that it just proper drags out. 406 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,680 And you've also got a base on what the DM is comfortable having that many people. 407 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Yeah. 408 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320 Cause I suppose if they're, if it's just not. 409 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Cause if there's not, if there's not facility for it for one, because if you imagine you 410 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,560 have that many people round to play D&D, like, you know, it's doable. 411 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,680 I could probably do it at my table, but it would be hard because there's not, there is 412 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,400 room, but there isn't enough room to squeeze everyone in and squeeze everyone on and everyone 413 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,560 can see and everyone can be involved and everyone feel involved. 414 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,600 And then at same breath of, you know, does the DM feel comfortable having that many people 415 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,600 to cater to? 416 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Because at the minute, like I've got, say I've got four people now, technically. 417 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,520 Yeah. 418 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,960 And truthfully like, yeah, at least you can drop in and out as she pleases and doesn't 419 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 need to be there and can be there. 420 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Whatever, whatever that I'm just working with three of you. 421 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,920 That's quite easy to go. 422 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,120 Well, what do you want to do? 423 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,120 What do you want to do? 424 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,440 You know, balance it out nicely. 425 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Cause everyone's going to want to do different things. 426 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,400 Seven. 427 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,680 I imagine seven people and you don't all fucking get on. 428 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Yeah. 429 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,680 I know. 430 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,680 Yeah. 431 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,680 That's what I mean. 432 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,680 Yeah. 433 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,680 I mean, I like to tell you stories. 434 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,000 If you like, luckily enough, like the group I play with there, we're all. 435 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560 We've known each other like years. 436 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,100 These are people I've gone to school with. 437 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:29,100 We've known each other years. 438 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,200 We've been through whatever that we do get on quite well. 439 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,920 We still have disagreements about things and can have, you know, arguments at table about 440 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,440 negligible things, but no one's like out to fucking get each other. 441 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Oh, everyone's out to get me on this fucking table though. 442 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,480 There's one little weasel that's out to get me on this fucking table consistently. 443 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,480 He's your best mate in the entire year. 444 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Consistently is trying to fucking do me over on this for... 445 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680 Well he did break his pinky promise so... 446 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,680 For no reason. 447 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,680 No reason. 448 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480 DM's given the fuck around to find out so... 449 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,080 Alicia killed him and I am the one that gets the fucking flack for it. 450 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Yeah. 451 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Because I took back what was originally mine. 452 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Yeah. 453 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,200 It makes no sense. 454 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,200 It makes... 455 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,200 It's funny. 456 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,200 I enjoyed it. 457 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960 And I know you'll be listening at some point Ash. 458 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:26,000 It's almost tempting to just flat out kill your character just so that you can make another 459 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 one that isn't a prick. 460 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 You've heard it here first. 461 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 You know what I mean? 462 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Your day's a number. 463 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,520 It's shitty, cunty fucking drow that he's made and the personality... 464 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 I hate it. 465 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200 I hate Solax Sustarian. 466 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 But then that's a good thing because then clearly the roleplay's working. 467 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I hate him. 468 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 I don't hate Ash. 469 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Ash is fine. 470 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000 He's lovely. 471 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Well... 472 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440 There's some parts, sometimes when I hate Ash. 473 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520 But the fucking character that he's made... 474 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,360 He's just such a prick. 475 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640 I really, really dislike him. 476 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,640 I really do. 477 00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,640 I have to get it out. 478 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,640 I really... 479 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,640 I'll tell you what. 480 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640 I'm going to put it in the chat. 481 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,480 I'll put it in the little fucking D&D chat just so he's aware before he... 482 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,480 Before he gets upset. 483 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,480 Let me fucking... 484 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,480 Let me hate him. 485 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Where is he? 486 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Where is he? 487 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,280 But yeah, your drow is a prick. 488 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,280 I fucking... 489 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,280 I fucking hate your character... 490 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,280 Daryl's is fun though. 491 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,280 ...as a person, by the way. 492 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Yeah, Daryl's is great. 493 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,640 That's the thing. 494 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,880 That shows that the roleplay works and you're detaching player from character. 495 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,800 Obviously, it's only two sessions in and you're not fully founded. 496 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,000 You're not fully comfortable and found your feet in playing a roleplay. 497 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,760 He's just so fucking annoying. 498 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,760 Just everything. 499 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,760 And he's not even good. 500 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520 He's not even good. 501 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,960 That's the worst part. 502 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,740 He's not even good. 503 00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:53,200 He's not capable of doing anything. 504 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,680 He's a glass cannon with no fucking gunpowder in the cannon. 505 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,400 He can't do anything. 506 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,280 He's just fucking useless. 507 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,280 Just useless. 508 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600 He's broke his ankle trying to climb up a fucking wall. 509 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,800 Just so pointless. 510 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,200 You've got Daryl who's just like... 511 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,000 He's just a fucking thick, stupid paladin but so lovable. 512 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 So lovable. 513 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,280 I'll tell you what Daryl's character is like. 514 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080 It's like Chicken Joe from Surf's Up. 515 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,400 You ever seen Surf's Up? 516 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,400 Rings of Bell. 517 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,400 I can't picture it off the top of my head. 518 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,400 Fucking let me get... 519 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,960 Is that the one with the little one with the mad hair? 520 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,960 No, Chicken Joe. 521 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,400 I think I remember now. 522 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,400 Chicken Joe. 523 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,400 It rings a bell but I can't... 524 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,400 Chicken Joe. 525 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Okay. 526 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,400 Just call Surf a chicken, man. 527 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Don't fucking care. 528 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,400 I was thinking of the wrong thing. 529 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,160 Wins the fucking big surfing competition without even trying. 530 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,920 He's just chilling in the fucking ocean. 531 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,560 Just everything goes his way and he's just so chilled. 532 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,560 That's because... 533 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Nothing matters. 534 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,400 ...buddy Argon wants to fight and fuck and that's about it. 535 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,720 Everything's going his way and that's exactly the same for fucking Daryl's character, Argon. 536 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:06,720 Just everything's just... 537 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,680 Oh, you're fine, mate. 538 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,680 All right. 539 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,680 You're all right. 540 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Me trying to tactically think of shit and I'm getting fucking rasclited. 541 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,680 Just getting done in. 542 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,680 Just fucked up. 543 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,280 And then I've got Solax sitting there, just a little prick. 544 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,280 I hate him. 545 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,280 I hate him. 546 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Does he all feel drastically fucking incompetent when Alicia's character turns up? 547 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,920 Yes. 548 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,360 Like here comes a proper adventurer. 549 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:42,240 Because Alicia's character is built to be played properly. 550 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:43,240 Yours is built to be played properly. 551 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,480 I know, but you can see the skill gap. 552 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,000 It would be no different of... 553 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,120 I don't know. 554 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000 It's no different of if everyone jumped on World of Warcraft. 555 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,680 I'm going to be the best person there, hands down, by quite a fucking margin. 556 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,680 I will be. 557 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,680 I just will be. 558 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:07,040 And it will be that you, Darryl and Ash could all be playing WoW together, and Alicia, and 559 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,840 Steph and fucking anyone else, and be having a merry, merry time and thinking that you're 560 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840 doing fantastic. 561 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,480 And then I can fucking jump in and blow everyone out of the water. 562 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,720 Because I have the experience behind me for that. 563 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,960 And that was exactly how I felt with Alicia joining in. 564 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:25,280 Because I was like, you're the epitome of everything. 565 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,360 You know it would be worse if I was a player. 566 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,360 That's what I'm saying. 567 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,360 Could you imagine it was like... 568 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:35,640 I can't do and think the same way that you are currently, but I won't be able to because 569 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,640 I'm still fresh. 570 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Again, it's only your second session. 571 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,640 I was like, wow! 572 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,640 It's easily excusable. 573 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,280 The geezer tried to nick from her pocket and she just turned around and slit his wrist. 574 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,280 You can fuck off. 575 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,280 Dead. 576 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,280 What the fuck? 577 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,280 I'm not having that. 578 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,280 What's going on here? 579 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,360 Just rolling fucking 20s every five minutes. 580 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,560 Every single roll was above 16. 581 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160 Every single one of them. 582 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520 Is that him agreeing or is that Darrell agreeing to him being a knob? 583 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Darrell's agreed. 584 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,520 So much hate from Friday today. 585 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:13,520 He's a bit of a knob to be fair. 586 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440 The old black hearted drought. 587 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,440 Black hearted drought. 588 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,360 I hate it. 589 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,360 But you're right. 590 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,360 You're right. 591 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,840 That is where the role play is doing what it needs. 592 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,760 I just want to... 593 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,760 Darrell's role play is fantastic. 594 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,080 It's fantastic. 595 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,360 Scottish fucking dwarf. 596 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,360 He's great, man. 597 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,360 He's so good. 598 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,360 So's Ash. 599 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,360 It's just... 600 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,360 But Darrell was just so... 601 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,360 He's got the secret sauce going on. 602 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,360 It's so weird. 603 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,360 What I need to do is... 604 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,360 He committed. 605 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,360 I was surprised. 606 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,360 He knew how committed he's been. 607 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,360 Yeah. 608 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,360 He was all over it. 609 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:55,320 I need to essentially kill off my character and then have another one come in where I 610 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,400 have made it for a role play that I'm able to actually do because I'm terrible at accents. 611 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,280 You can't do the dwarves. 612 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,280 I can't do it, boy. 613 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,280 Get some happy snaps. 614 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,280 You can. 615 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,280 I can't do it. 616 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:15,200 So accents need to fucking go out of the window for me and I need to sort of have something 617 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,760 else where I can just be almost like how I am now, but weird and fucking quirky. 618 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,760 Can you do that? 619 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,080 Just be a self insert. 620 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,080 You could make it akin to a self insert if you were that. 621 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Obviously it would be like, oh yeah, if you want to call yourself Reese, then fine. 622 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040 Whatever. 623 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,040 That wouldn't fucking work. 624 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,680 It's Solax, Astarion, Argon, Reese. 625 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,680 The human fighter. 626 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Bubba. 627 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Bubba. 628 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,680 Bubba boogo. 629 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,600 Again, it comes in time with playing. 630 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:58,280 Some people are a lot more capable of just leaning into the improv and the role play. 631 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:04,880 When I first started, even with friends, I felt very like, I don't know if I can do this 632 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,000 and feel very comfortable doing it. 633 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,680 You just do it more and more and you start to feel like you can do it and then you start 634 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640 opening yourself up to doing it. 635 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640 I think that's what I'm experiencing. 636 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Because it's just little me me bits you can do. 637 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,080 With My Powers, we joked about fucking doing occasion accent. 638 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,080 And then all of a sudden- 639 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,080 Yeah, but it's crazy. 640 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,520 I have a picture on my phone of Daryl's gooch. 641 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,880 Gooch, nutsack, asshole on my phone. 642 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,840 Multiple pictures of his penis. 643 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,840 Multiple pictures. 644 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,120 I've seen Ash's shit in the back of a van. 645 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,120 I've seen it. 646 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,120 And you don't want to. 647 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,640 I've seen it in person with my own eyeballs. 648 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080 We've spoke about cum and all sorts of manner of things. 649 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,080 Dirty soggy biscuits. 650 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,560 You know what I mean? 651 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,200 And I've seen Daryl's gooch and I'm too, not scared, but anxious to throw an accent in 652 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,200 front of- 653 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,640 We've shared the same straw or a milkshake. 654 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,640 Exactly. 655 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,640 I mean, it doesn't- 656 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,400 We've basically kissed. 657 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,960 I know, but it doesn't make any sense why you would have some form of anxiety around 658 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,000 getting proper into the role play because I know that I'm capable of doing it. 659 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000 I know it's there. 660 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 All right? 661 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,840 I definitely know that maybe not all the voices, but I know that I'm able to fucking delve 662 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,560 into it. 663 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,880 Maybe it's because we're a bit slow in terms of the actual gameplay of it and the flow 664 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,880 isn't necessarily there yet because we're still having to figure out what the fuck is 665 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,880 going on. 666 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,320 Because right now, it's one hell of a split fucking party right now. 667 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,360 We ain't making it to the end of this adventure, the same party that started. 668 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360 There's no fucking way. 669 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,120 I don't even think we'll all survive. 670 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,120 It's not going to happen. 671 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,120 You might. 672 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,120 You might do. 673 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,120 You're quite likely. 674 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,120 You'd have to see. 675 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,720 The thing is, truthfully, when I've looked at it, you're not even out, well, you're just 676 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,000 now out of the first chapter, truthfully. 677 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Yeah. 678 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,680 And how many chapters are there? 679 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,320 I think there's four or five. 680 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,040 Twenty hours it's taken us to get out one chapter. 681 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,200 It, truthfully, when you look at the it took us four hours to get out the fucking out of 682 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,080 the end that we slept in because that was trying to wank off into a pillow or some shit 683 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,920 like that rolling for dick size rolled for pain as such. 684 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,920 Seven inches is what I got. 685 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,880 It's the smallest of the group by quite a margin. 686 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,440 That will roll to 12. 687 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480 We'll probably reroll that with some better stats. 688 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,840 It's just fucking best at padding on the back of that because a day 20 ain't exactly the 689 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,080 most accurate for that one. 690 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,680 I just it's it's it's so good. 691 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,960 The excitement. 692 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,760 I love it because over the last couple of weeks in terms of of gaming, I've got excitement 693 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,520 from other areas that I wouldn't normally get excitement from. 694 00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:01,240 So like me and Steph, for example, playing the World of Warcraft tabletop game and getting 695 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:07,080 absolutely battered in that, which makes you want to play it again because I haven't beaten 696 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,960 this fucking game yet, which you can play solo somehow. 697 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,840 But me and me and Steph just can't do it. 698 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,840 So I wrote. 699 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,840 But it was great. 700 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,840 It was fantastic. 701 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,120 And whether that was because it was a cooperative board game where we're not pitted against 702 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,200 each other or whether it was because of it being World of Warcraft and I recognized every 703 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,720 single aspect of it in with it. 704 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:28,720 Yeah. 705 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,800 Or culmination of those things. 706 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,160 You're playing with your partner like it really, really fun and enjoyable. 707 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:41,080 And then you've got D&D on top of that where it's like this is this is gaming on a level 708 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,960 that I am so not involved with or at least haven't been involved with. 709 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,920 It's kind of your first exposure to that style of like tabletop. 710 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,920 Like I say, I'm not. 711 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,040 It's a tabletop game, but it's not like is it like Monopoly? 712 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,040 Yeah. 713 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,040 It's like no. 714 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,040 No. 715 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,040 It's a tabletop game. 716 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,400 But it's a tabletop role playing game. 717 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,400 Which is. 718 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,400 Yeah. 719 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,080 It's the role playing aspect that I think is what makes it so so fun. 720 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,120 And I think that's where because it's what you come up with and what you can come up 721 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,120 with. 722 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,120 Yeah. 723 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,120 Yeah. 724 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,040 And it's just again, it comes. 725 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,660 If anyone's listening and you've got a group of friends and you've all fought at some point, 726 00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:27,080 maybe we should try D&D. 100% try it. 727 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,280 And then we've also let you in on the thing that if you don't have a DM, you can just 728 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,280 buy one. 729 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,280 Yeah. 730 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,920 If not, just hire a DM, give them a score, give them some fucking sniff, whatever they 731 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,920 want. 732 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,840 No, give them some snacks. 733 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,840 Provide them with whatever they want. 734 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,000 Give them some drinks, give them some snacks, give them some sucky sucky. 735 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,000 And off you go. 736 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,280 We're driving back to the yard today. 737 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,000 We're in London and a homeless geyser. 738 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,280 I'm not even sure they're homeless. 739 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,320 I don't know if it's for the people that obviously don't know London. 740 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,360 This won't sound fucking familiar at all. 741 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,280 But the A406 is a road in London, just a ring road that fucking circles around London. 742 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,240 And there's just homeless people dotted around. 743 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:08,440 But I'm pretty sure they're not homeless. 744 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:14,280 And they just stand there with cups fucking at the traffic lights begging for money basically. 745 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,640 They always pretend they've got a hobble on or they're fucking missing a leg or some shit. 746 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,640 It's all bollocks. 747 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,640 He's got his cup in his hand. 748 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,640 It's all bollocks. 749 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,640 And this geyser pulled up, we pulled up with the lights. 750 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,720 This old geyser, homeless geyser has come over with his cup. 751 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,320 Connor's got the windows down. 752 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,320 I said, here we go. 753 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,320 Here we go. 754 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,320 And normally you ignore him and just go, I ain't got anything for you, mate. 755 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,320 See you later. 756 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120 And he comes over and starts shaking his cup. 757 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,040 And Connor's like, I ain't got anything for you, mate. 758 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,840 And he was like, unless you can give us something. 759 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,120 The geyser starts laughing and hobbled off. 760 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,680 Just asked the geyser for a bit of sucky sucky. 761 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,680 Suck this and give you a quid. 762 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,680 I've just never. 763 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,680 The fact that he laughed as well. 764 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,680 He's like, I ain't got anything for you, mate, unless you can give me something. 765 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,680 Asking a homeless geyser. 766 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,680 Just wanted him to give me a show or some sort of entertainment. 767 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,240 So stupid, innit? 768 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,240 So stupid. 769 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:10,920 But yeah, if you're thinking about playing D&D, then I urge you to play D&D. 770 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:20,020 If you're like me, a purely video game gamer, and you're thinking about branching into other 771 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:21,400 areas of gaming. 772 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,860 Even then, there's other things outside of D&D. 773 00:46:24,860 --> 00:46:31,720 If high fantasy isn't the one you want to go for, there are a lot more ones out there 774 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,040 that have different options. 775 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:40,360 So like the alternative to D&D is Pathfinder, which is the same thing, but it's a slightly 776 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,360 different system. 777 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,480 There's a lot more customisation. 778 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,480 If you don't like D&D, try Pathfinder. 779 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,580 If you don't like Pathfinder, play D&D. 780 00:46:47,580 --> 00:46:49,440 But then there's other stuff. 781 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,880 I told you the other day, or whenever it was, I think it was yesterday, I mentioned that 782 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,640 there's a Lord of the Rings game. 783 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,640 There's different ones. 784 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:04,160 The one I've got is a D6 style game, which plays slightly differently than D&D because 785 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,000 that's D20, whereas this is D6. 786 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,080 There's again, the other one like Call of Cthulhu is another one. 787 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,360 That doesn't play at all like D&D. 788 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,920 That's more mysteries and supernatural and spooky shit. 789 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,280 My pal picked up Mothership, which is meant to be more like science fiction horror. 790 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,440 And that plays again differently. 791 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:33,240 If you find your niche about how you want to play, but if you're recommending playing 792 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:37,640 D&D, there's easily a recommendation to play any sort of tabletop game. 793 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,640 Freedom's there. 794 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:44,120 Opening up the world of possibility that like what you said before, it's like, I don't know 795 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,120 what I can do. 796 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,800 And you turn around and go, well, you can do anything. 797 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,440 There is a structure to it, but ultimately like... 798 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,440 Test the boundaries of that structure. 799 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,800 Push the boundaries and we'll see how far we can do. 800 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,960 Can Daryl's character spit on your character's head? 801 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,960 Yes, he can. 802 00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,960 Yes, he can. 803 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,600 Can you bathe in a horse trough? 804 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,600 Yes, you can. 805 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,080 Can he wipe the come up with his bellend with the curtains? 806 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,080 Yes, he can. 807 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,080 Yes, he can. 808 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,080 Yeah. 809 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,480 Can Ash fall down a pit of a wall? 810 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,480 Of course he can. 811 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,480 Of course he can. 812 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Like we said before, and I think I've said it before, it is what you make of it. 813 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:26,760 But you have to want to commit to it, which you guys all are in that aspect of. 814 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,520 But again, it will come, like for you, it will come that you'll be more comfortable, 815 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,680 more open and like you'll start to figure it. 816 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,520 I think Alicia said it and pointed it out and said it, she felt like it helps you guys 817 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,320 to see that there's other things you can be asking and doing. 818 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,840 Yeah, definitely. 819 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,600 Like, you know, you guys are looking at it really linear and going, well, we've got to 820 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,680 get from A to B or we've got to get through here or we can see a pathway that we can go 821 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,200 and we just walk up it or we interact with it. 822 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:01,480 And it doesn't go well that if you start to look off the beaten path and, you know, ask 823 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,120 different questions or look at things you've got or things you can acquire. 824 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,480 Like I said to you guys, look at your equipment or think about having additional equipment 825 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,960 because you can these situations you can, you can think outside the box and go, well, 826 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,520 I can avoid all of this bullshit just by doing this. 827 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,520 Yeah. 828 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,960 That, you know, it's the, the world's your oyster as players fundamentally. 829 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,720 And I'm trying not to be, I'm not trying to be a hardline DM and say, no, you can't do 830 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,760 that or fucking whatever. 831 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,200 And just be like, let's, let's roll with it and see what's happening. 832 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,040 And I'll let you guys experience things as new players and try and help you and give 833 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,760 you every little bit of information that I know and can think of that's going to help 834 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,240 you get through it because it's a lot to take in straight off the bat. 835 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:49,440 There's a lot to take in, but we're doing it. 836 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,440 Well, we're getting there. 837 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,440 We are getting there. 838 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,040 I'm going to have to leave it because I really need a poo. 839 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,040 Oh, look at him. 840 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,600 So that's what you were shuffling for. 841 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,440 Your eyes will get all squinting glazed over and hold the poo in. 842 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,440 Shuffle it in. 843 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,440 Just shit yourself. 844 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,440 Live on pod. 845 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,440 Could you imagine? 846 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,440 No one would know. 847 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,440 No one would know. 848 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,440 No one would know. 849 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,440 Right. 850 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,440 Well, we'll call it there then. 851 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440 See you later everyone. 852 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,440 See ya. 853 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:29,120 She's about to miss her shit uncle. 854 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:38,460 She's about to miss her God. 855 00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:43,080 I've got to stop him.