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from me? Tell him. Tell him

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good morning. Good morning.

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Good afternoon. Good night.

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This will be coming out on a

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Monday. It's being recorded on

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a Wednesday because because

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I'm in Scotland for the

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weekend. It's going away for

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four days and he's taking a

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little mark with him and that

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might be why you're hearing

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Connor's voice rather than

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Ash's because Ash. Ash is a

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difficult man to get hold of

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during the weekdays and so

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he's not. Steph's just not

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here. So, Connor's the Connor's

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the backup. Yeah, the backup

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of the backup. Look, I've been

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here more than Ash now. At this

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rate. Ash is one week and then

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you're the next week. Yeah.

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That's how the new schedule is

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taking place. We can't all be

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together. Nice cold glass of

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water. Nearly died. It's a

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nice dynamic because obviously

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you play all the weird ****

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stuff. You put a little bit of

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extra spice to it. And the

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weird **** that you've started

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playing. Yeah. The borders go.

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All the **** Oh yeah. All the

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mainstream weird weird stuff.

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You haven't started Warhammer

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yet. So, that's I remember. I

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don't know if you're well even

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sometimes it's a bit too nerdy

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for me but I played Warhammer.

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What was the one that was on

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PlayStation? There was like the

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FPS. Uh dark tide. Dark tide.

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That's the more recent one. It's

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the one that was on PlayStation.

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You know, I I picked it up when

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it first dropped but then it

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almost immediately came to

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Game Pass. Yeah. It was a bit

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of a. That's where I played. It

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was from Game Pass. It was

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loose but like I think I said

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it to you before that it wasn't

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worth playing on your own. No.

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Because it's not worth playing

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with randoms because they're

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every there's four classes.

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so you've essentially got a

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sniper a tank and then two sort

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of like um I forget what the

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last one was but so one of them

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had um like magic powers and

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other one was like a melee

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brawler and I use the big keys

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when I know that was the tank

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style one. So there was two that

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essentially did mainly there was

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one that did um sort of like A.

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O. E. style stuff and there was

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one that was um single target

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DPS. I don't know. I only ever

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played the tank. No, no. The

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you could have to have the each

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single one. So like one of each

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for the four party slot. So,

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tanks which were just big

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lumbering units. The the problem

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playing the sniper and if you

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had a three other party members

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that were the big fat lads, you

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couldn't get a line of sight on

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anything. Do you think they

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point was to run in and and get

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in the way. Get the aggro of

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the chaff but but there was so

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many tanks that were DPS were

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meant to be hitting and you

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couldn't because friendly fire

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was if you shot your friends,

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you weren't necessarily doing

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damage to them but they were

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soaking up your rounds. Yeah.

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was just shooting into the back

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of your mate's head. I never

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played it for that long but I I

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that weird phase you know where

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you you're just flicking

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through games trying to find

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something that hits hits a bit

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different. I think it was

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definitely like if you had a

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group of people that you wanted

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to play against, you know,

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randoms, we weren't having a

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bad time but we weren't doing

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high level stuff. I wonder how

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it's doing now. I think it's

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had a new, it's had a new DLC.

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followed it because again, I

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didn't really have anyone that

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was going to pick it up even on

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game pass to actually commit to

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it and I think it had a quite a

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bit of a flawed release when it

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came out. I feel like Warhammer

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on a hole isn't isn't something

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that's really odd because I

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really like figures like

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collectors edition figures,

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things like figures of

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characters and all that ****

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which not that I've **** other

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than Funko Pops. You haven't

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really got actual like mini

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figs. Yeah, I haven't I haven't

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got much going on but I always

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like the look like black series

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and **** is never going to be

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my bank because I I would like

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to weirdly how like I'm an in

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box Funko collector but if I

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have black series, I'd want to

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take them out. If you actually

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had something you could play

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with it. Yeah, but all of the

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like the Mirage Collectors

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Edition obviously has a Basim

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statue that's upstairs in in

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Steph's room. Is this just the

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I don't know. There's some

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weight in that box. Yeah, yeah.

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It's got all the stuff in it.

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Literally, everything's in

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there other than the ****

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empty Funko other than the

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statue. Yeah, my little

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protector.

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He was heavy into Warhammer.

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They had like a dedicated room

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upstairs where every Saturday

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loads of them would go

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upstairs and they're they're

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like set it all up and he tried

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to show me a couple of bits

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before and the most the thing

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that blew me away the most was

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how **** expensive. Yeah.

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Them them figures are. Yeah.

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Jesus Christ. From anywhere

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from I think the cheapest

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single models are about 18

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dollars and essentially there's

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two sides of Games Workshop

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which has been streamlined now

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but it it all used to be two

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separate sites and now it's

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one is the um the resin kits

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where you can get big. They're

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probably as big as this this

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gorilla gorilla in front of me

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of just sheer resin and like

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one part of it is like a grand.

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Yeah. And that's just for like

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a head. Yeah. Or or an arm or

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a leg. It's ridiculous. You

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know, it's definitely is it is

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a real deal. Yeah. So, if you

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**** that up. You can restart.

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How? When you if you paint a

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figure and I **** it up. So,

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so, say, say, with the DND um

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any figures, any of the minis,

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say, I'll get one for for for

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him.

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Broom. Broom. Broom. We're not

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having this if I if I get

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something for that, it's going

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to be unpainted. I then paint

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that. Yeah. If I **** that up,

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to strip it completely back to the plastic if you wanted to.

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Or you can just, like the benefit is

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you can just paint over it.

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If you don't like it, you can repaint it.

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So long as you, like there's the joke in the communities,

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thin your paints because there's some bad things out there

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where people have literally just like think rental property,

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like white switches where it's just everything's white out.

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Just straight over here.

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Yeah, like you can do that

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and you can completely ruin minis,

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but all you do is you just get, you know,

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paint thinner or white spirit

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and just leave the little fucker in there.

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I just don't got the artistic flair to fucking do it.

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I think you'd be all right at it.

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I think it'd be the initial stage.

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Like even I'm not that good at it,

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but you just, it's one of those things

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that if you do enough of it

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and you find things that you like to paint,

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like I did quite a few of the D&D minis

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and I did some in a rush

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before I ended up playing with my other group.

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And they're not that great to look at.

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And even the one I did for Ash,

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like it's passable at a level of, truthfully,

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it's the three foot rule.

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If you're standing up at a table as far away

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as this one in front of us now is that.

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Plus Ash has got googly colorblind eyes

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and he's really fucking seeing anything wrong with his figures.

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He didn't even know what color he was.

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He ain't got a fucking clue, you're sweet.

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So, but yeah, there is an element of,

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if you get a 3D printer up and going,

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you can save yourself quite a bit of money,

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but at the same time it's-

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The initial outlay is fucking expensive.

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It's expensive to have a 3D printer

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and sometimes it's expensive to run it.

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But if you're truthfully looking at,

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a pack of 10 guys from Games Workshop costs you 30, 40 quid,

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you could save yourself and you could make that

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for those same amount for pence, 20p or something.

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They're about that sort of value,

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but there isn't a lot of,

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if you're gonna take that professionally,

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to a tournament, people don't like that

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and they don't like you having proxy models.

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Why?

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Because it's elitist essentially,

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because you've not paid the money to Games Workshop.

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Oh, so you fucking-

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You can't use that.

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You can't join in the competition.

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Yeah, it all needs to be direct mainline stuff.

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Whereas if you're doing home games,

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you can use whatever you want and that's the same for-

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I wonder how that would work on a,

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like obviously Daryl goes

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to a couple of Pokemon tournaments.

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I wonder if you could make your own Pokemon cards

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that still follow the exact same as everything else.

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They're just made yourself.

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I wonder if that would fucking work.

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If you've got very good,

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that the hardest part for 3D printing

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is finding the file, the print files.

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So if you had something,

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like there's a load of stuff out there.

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Like I, in Warhammer, I like Space Marines.

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I like Imperial Guard, but I also like,

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I've got some Tyranids and bits and pieces,

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other ones and Imperial Knights.

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And there's a lot of decent stuff out there

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that my pal collects orcs.

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And there's enough stuff that could be very close,

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but at the same time, there's a lot of them

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because they're trying to avoid copyright infringement.

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Everything looks very similar,

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but there is differences in it

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that you would be able to look at it and go,

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that's not a GW model that we then tweet to.

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If you can get things like recasts,

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which it also is a gray area of illegality

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in terms of people have copied Games Workshop stuff,

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is that if you can't tell, then sure.

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But some people are so anal on it, so up on it

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that they can pick your part, your minis and your models.

291
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I can't imagine anything nerdier.

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They go into a Warhammer tournament

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and someone telling you to fuck off.

294
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Yeah, because you've got fake fucking figures.

295
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Jesus Christ.

296
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It is a sheer level of sweat that I couldn't go to.

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I've only played home games.

298
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There's no way I could go to a tournament

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to play that kind of stuff.

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And even then I've done it.

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And the first time I've played it since I was about eight

302
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or that sort of age,

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that it took most of the day just to do a few rounds.

304
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I don't think I could do a tournament

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and fucking anything to be there.

306
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No, it's far too intense and it's far too many.

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Even when Darrell went to the Pokemon stuff,

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I feel that it's far too many sweaty people.

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Power up.

310
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He's been beating ball with the children

311
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and it's just group chat going off of him going,

312
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these fucking kids are fucking lost again.

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Cunts.

314
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Yeah, there's too many people that make that their almost

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life for me as a very casual player to want to turn up to.

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Yeah.

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Whereas I'm much more happy if there's 40K games

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or any sort of Warhammer game,

319
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like there's total war games.

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There's one I was playing more recently,

321
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Demon's Gate.

322
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Something like that.

323
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The demons get chaos hunters or something where you play

324
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essentially beefed up space marines, gray knights,

325
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and you just go around in an XCOM style,

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hunting down monsters and Xenos and things like that,

327
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all while you're doing some sort of overarching mission.

328
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And it plays very much like XCOM

329
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and it's the only one since Darktide

330
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that I've kind of followed at the minute

331
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and it's not been too bad,

332
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but I've taken a little break from it

333
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because it can be very intense.

334
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You're right there.

335
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,840
I was just trying to think of XCOM.

336
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You look a little bit lost.

337
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Because I tried to play XCOM

338
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when I had the fucking game pass.

339
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,440
There's a few versions of them.

340
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There's, what have they changed it to now?

341
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The more recent, because there was old school ones,

342
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which I never really played

343
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,680
and apparently they were mental in terms of difficulty.

344
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It was just punishing.

345
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The whole game was just, you're gonna get fucked over

346
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one way or another.

347
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,880
And then they released what?

348
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Enemy Unknown or something like that.

349
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And there was another one like The Bureau,

350
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which was a bit of a weird one.

351
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It was semi, almost like RTS.

352
00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,560
Yeah, I remember The Bureau.

353
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,680
But no, XCOM is an enjoyable game.

354
00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,240
It's one of those turn-based strategy ones

355
00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,280
that if you got your head in the right game for it.

356
00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,000
That's probably why I didn't fucking get on with it

357
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because of turn-based strategy.

358
00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,240
Yeah, you and Ash aren't really fans of strategy style games.

359
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It's not my cup of tea.

360
00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,240
Cause it's like everyone in the Discord at the moment,

361
00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,080
well I say everyone, there's a couple of people

362
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,960
that are hollering about Mana Lords.

363
00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,800
Yeah, I picked that up.

364
00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,640
Which I know you've been playing a little bit of.

365
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,320
A few days ago, I played, what, two hours of it, I think.

366
00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,360
Which is, it's not bad.

367
00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,520
I feel like it's a blend of-

368
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Like civilization.

369
00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,520
Not Civ, it's definitely not like Civ

370
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because that's massively micromanage everything.

371
00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,320
Whereby you, I'm trying to think the best way to explain it.

372
00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,800
Sims.

373
00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,800
Sort of, you need to get good at Civ to know what you're doing.

374
00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,240
You need to play quite a lot of it

375
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,600
to know the way that things work.

376
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,280
So, you know, you get, when you first start out,

377
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you've picked a nation that has specific skills.

378
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,120
So like if you pick Britain, which is an option,

379
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later game you get very good Navy

380
00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,680
that can then have additional abilities.

381
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And every different nation has different stats

382
00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,040
that you kind of need to focus on

383
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and decide what your end goal victory is gonna be.

384
00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,320
Because there's so many different options

385
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you can do, ones from conquest victories

386
00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,440
where you just take over everyone's capitals

387
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and everyone's cities.

388
00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,080
Or you can do like financial victories

389
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where just you have so much money.

390
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,120
You can just buy everything, buy people out.

391
00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,720
You can have like cultural victories

392
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,920
where you've just amassed so much fanatical following.

393
00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,320
They're just not my kind of game whatsoever, man.

394
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,080
I've spent quite a lot of time in Civ.

395
00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,160
I think it was Civ V with some of my powers

396
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,280
and in the past.

397
00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,840
Yeah, but you would cause you're a fucking nerd.

398
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,680
You know what I mean?

399
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,240
Like you're a nerd.

400
00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,680
All right, I'll go now then, see you later.

401
00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:18,640
You're such a nerd.

402
00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,640
Just a sweaty, ginger, middle-aged nerd.

403
00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,120
Not middle-aged, so you can...

404
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,440
I'm one year older than you, so.

405
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,320
Yeah, you just like them nerdy games.

406
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,320
Yeah.

407
00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,640
But it's fair enough.

408
00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,720
Thing is, sometimes it's more,

409
00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,600
I wouldn't say Civ is peaceful,

410
00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,080
but Man of the Lords got an element of peacefulness to it

411
00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,000
where in a sense that it's a blend of,

412
00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,240
if you ever played a game like City Skylines,

413
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,640
which was a city sim.

414
00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,640
And then you got, what is that?

415
00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,640
Tropico?

416
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,600
Tropico.

417
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,440
Tropico, that's the one.

418
00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,280
Something or other.

419
00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,000
That was another, I never played that one,

420
00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720
but that is another styled game that I've,

421
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,840
you know, in the two hours I put into Man of the Lords,

422
00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,600
it's very intense.

423
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640
Because there is a lot going on straight away

424
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,880
and it does not hold your hand

425
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,520
in terms of what you need to be doing.

426
00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,400
Is Man of the Lords a full release?

427
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,120
No, it's early access.

428
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,960
Fuck me.

429
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,880
Everything's early access.

430
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,200
I know, I know we just done a whole fucking,

431
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,920
last week's episode was quite heavy on early access.

432
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,760
That's the way things are now.

433
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,560
That truthfully, I think I'd rather have early access

434
00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,400
for some stuff because you can still play the game

435
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,480
and help the developer.

436
00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,520
At Man of the Lords, I think when you first start it up,

437
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040
it says, look, I'll be making this game for seven years

438
00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,600
and I think it's one man who's doing it.

439
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,160
So I truthfully bide your time and help him out.

440
00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080
I love that early access is basically just like

441
00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,320
what betas used to be, but on a much more prolonged scale,

442
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520
which sometimes it helps people

443
00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,640
and other times it hit.

444
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,880
You look at something like Star Citizen.

445
00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,120
Oh God.

446
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,520
I mean, fuck me.

447
00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440
How long has that been in early access for?

448
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,360
I don't even think that's out of alpha yet.

449
00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,680
No, I'm not.

450
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,520
I don't think so.

451
00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,120
And you can spend literal thousands of pounds.

452
00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,000
The difference has been though,

453
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,160
that there is all the alphas and the betas

454
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800
is that everything used to be closed betas before

455
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,960
and you had to have signed up within a specific time.

456
00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,000
World of Warcraft is like that.

457
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,840
Within a specific, you have to be within a specific group.

458
00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,200
You had to either be in the know

459
00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,920
or you had to be a gaming channel or something like that.

460
00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,640
World of Warcraft is still like that.

461
00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,960
Yeah, someone would give you a key to say,

462
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,520
come and join our closed beta for like three, two, three

463
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,200
weeks and we're gonna iron out the kinks.

464
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,640
Whereas the amount of closed betas,

465
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,640
I feel like I've actually participated in

466
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520
or even open betas that all of a sudden they just release

467
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,000
and say, oh, we've got an open beta for a week, get on it.

468
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,160
And you're there on the last day going, what?

469
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,360
I didn't even know this was about.

470
00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,880
And you want it to play it.

471
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,080
Whereas now everything's early access,

472
00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,720
which means it's open to the public.

473
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,000
Then truthfully, money's being invested in the game

474
00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,280
because you've had to buy it anyway

475
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,720
or bought it at a discount.

476
00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,000
That it's then influx of money into the company

477
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,040
to make it better.

478
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,920
So you can essentially finish their game,

479
00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,120
which is a bit weird because you think, well,

480
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,360
if you're not ready to release a game

481
00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,160
and you haven't got the money to release a game, don't.

482
00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,440
I've been fucking, I've been playing well

483
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,200
since the Burning Crusade or just at the beginning.

484
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,920
How much money have you put into?

485
00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,440
And I've never, never, never, never, ever

486
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,360
of every single expansion bar two that I didn't play

487
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,960
have got beta access at all, ever.

488
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,000
And so many other people kick off about it.

489
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,080
But the people that do get the fucking beta access

490
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,760
are people like streamers and fucking anyone,

491
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,280
anyone that makes some kind of content visually

492
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,120
always ends up.

493
00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:52,200
Are you gonna start a What's the Button's Twitch profile?

494
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,080
Well, it's just annoying, man.

495
00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,520
Like I get, I understand it.

496
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,760
It's very stream wow, yeah.

497
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,360
But it's like, when you spend all that money

498
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,840
in support for that long,

499
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,040
because obviously the War of the Wings

500
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,520
coming out this year and the beta access signups

501
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,600
went live last week, maybe a little bit before.

502
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,520
But you're not invited.

503
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,920
Yeah, I'm not invited.

504
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,080
I've fucking signed up twice.

505
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,360
Don't get fuck all from it.

506
00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,480
No one in the Discord has got fuck all from it.

507
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,000
No one in the Guild has got fuck all from it.

508
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,760
So who are they handing the keys out to?

509
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,600
I don't understand.

510
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,680
It's very frustrating.

511
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,160
Friends and family and all the people

512
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,000
that are taking the influential.

513
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,840
Yeah, it's just annoying, man.

514
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,680
Because I'd love to be a part of it.

515
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,080
Because I feel like, with most games,

516
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,800
you're not gonna bother fucking actually reporting.

517
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,840
I just wanna play the beta.

518
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,160
But I feel like something like, wow,

519
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,200
that's gonna be impactful.

520
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,280
Because I'm gonna play this almost every day.

521
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,920
I'll take it seriously.

522
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,960
That's where the early access stuff,

523
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,880
what you almost gotta be careful of now

524
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,400
is where early access is so easily becoming the norm.

525
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,680
And in most ways, it's a very positive outlay

526
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,440
to get a game that's not struggling,

527
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,880
but needs a little bit of a bump.

528
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,280
I feel like you're gonna get more and more people

529
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,880
using that as an excuse for a fucking mediocre game.

530
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,400
And you go, oh, you can't say anything bad about it

531
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,800
because it's early access.

532
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,640
You can't.

533
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,720
It still needs to be a level of criticism.

534
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840
We can't review this as early access.

535
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,720
You go, every fucking game's early access.

536
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,360
Someone's gotta say something.

537
00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:21,200
Yeah, it is.

538
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,840
I don't know.

539
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,280
Yeah, truthfully, it shouldn't be above criticism

540
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,640
because that's the only way that games grow and get better.

541
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,160
But you shouldn't, at the same time,

542
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,840
you shouldn't be able to tear it down and say,

543
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,640
oh, well, it's shit because it's early access.

544
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120
Because everything starts somewhere.

545
00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,400
Yeah, last week when me and Ash were chatting about it,

546
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,080
we just settled on the idea that it just has to be

547
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,840
constructive criticism as opposed to just straight up

548
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,000
fucking ripping it out.

549
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,240
This game's shit, though, by it.

550
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,760
It's fucking, I put two hours into this game and it's shit.

551
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,600
Because it is.

552
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,680
You haven't even bothered to get past the intro or anything.

553
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,520
Oh, it's not good.

554
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280
Have you seen that game that recently come out?

555
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,720
It's, you're a crab.

556
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,560
You seen that?

557
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,240
You're a crab and it's like, souls,

558
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760
souls like, souls like, what was it called?

559
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,080
I'll have to Google it because it looked really fucking,

560
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,520
it looked really interesting.

561
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,960
Oh, I'm going to fucking kick myself on a nine.

562
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,960
I think it's like a proper stupid name.

563
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,400
Souls like,

564
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,560
souls like, if in doubt, become crab, crab game.

565
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,360
It is called another crab's treasure.

566
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:31,040
No, another crab's treasure, which is on steam

567
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,080
at the moment for the smattering of just anything

568
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:35,920
and everything on the state.

569
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,920
Very positive reviews, 93% out of 1,868.

570
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,640
It is on for 24.29 at the moment.

571
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,560
What have we got?

572
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,400
How much?

573
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,200
24, 24.

574
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,360
Too much money?

575
00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:51,800
29.

576
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,640
Wow.

577
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,000
Is that too much money, you reckon?

578
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,840
Well, it's a crab game.

579
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,200
We don't know what it is yet.

580
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,560
Look at the crab.

581
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:01,800
So it's been made in MS Paint.

582
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,480
Reviews, IGN.

583
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,720
Oh, IGN have reviewed it, yeah.

584
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,680
Another crab's treasure is so clever

585
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,920
and wonderfully ridiculous that it's absolutely

586
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,520
worth your time.

587
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,080
PC gamer, the most fun I've had with a souls like

588
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,720
since Elden Ring.

589
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,040
Everything about another crab's treasure just works.

590
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,000
It feels like it was made with a general love

591
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800
for the game genre, but a desire to do something new

592
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,760
about this game.

593
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320
Another crab's treasure is a souls like adventure

594
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,400
set in a crumbling underwater world.

595
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400
As krill the hermit crab,

596
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,360
you'll need to wear the trash around you as shells

597
00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,040
to withstand attacks on enemies.

598
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,760
Many times your size, embark on an epic treasure hunt

599
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,560
to buy back your repossessed shell

600
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,920
and discover the dark secrets behind the polluted ocean.

601
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,280
What is this in detail?

602
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120
It looks fucking, here we go.

603
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,840
Poise breaking, dark souls difficulty, fish puns.

604
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,840
This is an absolutely great game worth, worth celebrating.

605
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,160
Jesus Christ.

606
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,520
It sounds like it's up your street then

607
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,400
when you've got something you can't be bothered to,

608
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,760
you can't be bothered to play WoW.

609
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,680
So you'll play crab play.

610
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,720
Solid 20 hours, souls like, fun and funny,

611
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,280
proof of carcinization, carcinization?

612
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,440
I don't know if that is.

613
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,160
Everything evolves into a crab long term.

614
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,160
Another, another, oh this is quite a juicy one.

615
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,920
Another, strong humor, low stakes and a good deal of fun.

616
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,960
Another crab's treasure is the perfect,

617
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680
is that perfect seven out of 10 experience.

618
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600
It's tough to find anything more than minor grievances,

619
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,840
yet you'd be equally hard pressed

620
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240
to find anything extraordinarily worthy

621
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,600
of rapturous acclaim.

622
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,640
Combat is fast, fun and flashy,

623
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,960
but underpinned by a noticeable lack of enemy variety.

624
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Systems that awkwardly overlap and supersede one another

625
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,440
and a catalog of bosses that once you've seen one,

626
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,400
you've seen somewhat them all.

627
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320
The narrative is brilliantly satirical

628
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,200
and similarly charming with a surprisingly dark and mature

629
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,360
equally excellent final act.

630
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,960
However, a world that doesn't take itself all that seriously

631
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,640
engenders a similarly apathetic response

632
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,400
and the seascapes general lack of immersion

633
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,520
doesn't entirely gel with the story sparse,

634
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,280
exploration heavy nature of the souls like Sub-Zomba.

635
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,560
Everything works to varying efficacy

636
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000
throughout Krill's 10 to 15 hour journey.

637
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760
Yet there's almost always a little something missing,

638
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,560
a little something off or a little something

639
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,800
that doesn't quite fit.

640
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,880
And those little somethings culminate

641
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,680
into a crackling souls like, no doubt,

642
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,360
but one unlikely to end up

643
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,400
as an essential pillar of the genre.

644
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,680
See, best fucking review that you can have.

645
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Well, someone's invested.

646
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,600
What it looks like.

647
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,160
Someone's been playing that on their Steam Deck.

648
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720
It looks like souls like SpongeBob.

649
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,760
It does.

650
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,320
SpongeBob, me buddy.

651
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,400
I can't really zoom in,

652
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,320
but look, fucking, they're just fighting crabs and shit.

653
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,280
Okay, fair enough.

654
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,000
It does look decent.

655
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,840
Genuinely.

656
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,880
I don't think I'll be buying it, but okay.

657
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,720
Why don't you like it?

658
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720
I think I'd rather spend 25 quid on-

659
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,840
Yeah, but you don't like souls likes, do you?

660
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,640
Well, I do, but I've been so far out of the loop with them

661
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,520
that they're not.

662
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,640
You're just comfy with your little fucking simulators.

663
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,600
I haven't got time to get good anymore.

664
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
They fucking can of Coke for your shell.

665
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480
It's decent.

666
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040
Yeah, but you don't need to, would you?

667
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,960
You can't be asked to get angry.

668
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Pretty much.

669
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,640
You're-

670
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,480
Yeah, I don't think I'd be angry at work with you.

671
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600
You're like me in a sense of,

672
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040
you don't want to get angry at the game

673
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,880
and it pisses you off.

674
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,920
However, the difference between you and me in that sense

675
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,880
is I get so wound up, I refuse to not do it.

676
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,240
The stubbornness overtakes the fucking anger.

677
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,360
I go, I'm gonna have to do it

678
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,560
because it's pissing me off too much.

679
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Oh yeah, I can do it.

680
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,280
I just don't, I can't be asked to come home

681
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,640
after everything and then be like,

682
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,640
I'm gonna be angry at a game for two hours

683
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,480
before I go to bed.

684
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,480
I love it.

685
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,000
I love it and I hate it.

686
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,800
Like fucking millennia.

687
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,920
This is pissing me off to my highest point

688
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200
and it's going to ruin the rest of the day.

689
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,680
So I must do it.

690
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,960
And then once I do it, it's ruined the rest of the day

691
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,280
because I'm so pissed off.

692
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,040
Either way, I'm getting fucked up,

693
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,280
but I would have done it.

694
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:17,720
No, I'm all right.

695
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Like Steph said before, I don't know how you can just sit

696
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,240
there for hours on end, the same shit happening

697
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,920
and still play this.

698
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,000
Because I can't stop.

699
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
But nine times out of 10, if I force myself to stop

700
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,720
and I come back like the following day

701
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,440
in a couple of hours, fresh brain and I'm ready to go.

702
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,360
I finished one and I finished three

703
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:39,680
and I haven't touched Elden Ring

704
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680
because I can't remember what released

705
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,120
around the same time as Elden Ring,

706
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,600
but I never really picked it up.

707
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,600
I know that Horizon Forbidden West was released

708
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,120
alongside Elden Ring, I believe.

709
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:52,960
I wasn't on that.

710
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,040
I don't know what I was on at the time,

711
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
but I just got, you know, I might go.

712
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,320
Online Monopoly.

713
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840
I might go, Online Monopoly, yeah, great.

714
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,840
So something Mark will be playing.

715
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,840
But yeah, no, it's those souls games.

716
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,800
I do like them and I like the lore and everything in them,

717
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,280
but you know, sitting down and slogging them out,

718
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,080
it's not something, you know, I can play other stuff

719
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,000
that's probably a little bit more up my street

720
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,680
in the limited time that I've got.

721
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,040
Yeah, I think someone like Elden Ring

722
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,000
just had that weird capture.

723
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,840
I don't know what it was.

724
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,200
I think it might've been also sort of like the hype

725
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520
surrounding it and every video you was watching

726
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,080
was to do with Elden Ring.

727
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,080
So it's almost like the Helldivers trap as well,

728
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520
where Helldivers is very good,

729
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,120
but ultimately it's very samey at the same time.

730
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,640
But where so many people are fucking invested in it,

731
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720
you feel like part of a community.

732
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,920
So it's like, oh, even though I'm doing this thing

733
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,360
sort of like in my bedroom on my own or whatever,

734
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,720
or at home on my own, doing fucking whatever,

735
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,200
you're part of something much larger.

736
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680
And I think that sort of same shit resonated with Elden Ring,

737
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840
especially with the PvP side of it,

738
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,240
for that blissful fucking like two or three months

739
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,080
of playing it.

740
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,440
Same with Hogwarts Legacy as well, man.

741
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,520
When that first come out.

742
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,080
Bloody Hogwarts.

743
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Have you played it?

744
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,760
No.

745
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Shut up then.

746
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,440
I've got no interest in playing it.

747
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,360
You've got a fucking clue.

748
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:20,880
What an incredible game.

749
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,720
Fuck that.

750
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Why?

751
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,400
Becky Harry Potter.

752
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,220
Why?

753
00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:25,060
You don't play Harry Potter though.

754
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:25,900
You make your own person.

755
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:26,720
You make your own character.

756
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Yeah, fuck that.

757
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,400
No.

758
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Why?

759
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,120
I don't like the setting, to be honest.

760
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,080
I don't care for the setting.

761
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,920
What, Hogwarts?

762
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,740
Yeah.

763
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:35,580
I don't know why.

764
00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:36,820
I just don't vibe with it.

765
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,280
I want, you know, I don't know why.

766
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,960
I like fantasy stuff, but I don't like Hogwarts wizards.

767
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Why?

768
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,780
I don't know.

769
00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:48,760
I just don't.

770
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,160
I feel like it was so-

771
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,000
Mission out.

772
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,820
I don't know.

773
00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:52,880
It's not dark enough for me.

774
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Like you've got wizards and they're just like,

775
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840
I know there's like your forbidden spells

776
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,660
and stuff like that,

777
00:27:57,660 --> 00:27:59,120
but there's not enough of that shit for me.

778
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,280
Yeah, it weren't.

779
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,480
Everything's very like,

780
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,160
because it's truthfully, it's quite kiddy.

781
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,000
I know it isn't, but-

782
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,360
Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.

783
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,560
Can it annoy people?

784
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,400
Good.

785
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,800
It's not kiddy.

786
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,640
It's-

787
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,080
It's a child's book.

788
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
No, it's whimsical.

789
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,360
I agree.

790
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,160
It weren't as dark as it could have been,

791
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,320
but it was a good old fucking crack.

792
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,240
Give that boy the bloody Avada Kedavra straight in the head.

793
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,080
It could.

794
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,900
Get rid of him.

795
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:27,740
It could.

796
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:28,580
It was fun.

797
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:30,240
It was fun to fucking do that.

798
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,660
Problem is is that there was no repercussion

799
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,800
of using them.

800
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Like you, these were like forbidden spells

801
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080
and fucking, I don't know, Voldemort will use these.

802
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,280
And then here I am doing it to like a frog.

803
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600
And it's like, there's no-

804
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,440
There's no-

805
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Some goblin.

806
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Yeah, there's no repercussion to what I've just used.

807
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280
For no reason, like absolutely no reason,

808
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,280
and nothing's happened.

809
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920
So it's like suddenly these awful, forbidden,

810
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,840
but very powerful spells are no longer that fucking,

811
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,680
like they're still powerful,

812
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600
but they're not naughty anymore.

813
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,120
Cause you can't, it'd be like in Skyrim,

814
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,880
if fucking every time you robbed something, nothing happened.

815
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320
So I'm not getting the fun out of this anymore, am I?

816
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,520
Yeah.

817
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,000
No, it's just never, that whole section of everything,

818
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,200
the books didn't appeal to me,

819
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,680
the films didn't appeal to me,

820
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,400
and the game didn't appeal to me.

821
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,240
So it's not-

822
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,960
I want a Lord of the Rings game, please.

823
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,520
I want a decent one.

824
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,340
You want-

825
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Go away, Darcy.

826
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Someone, is that Darcy?

827
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Yeah, he's ringing me.

828
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Fucking hell.

829
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,960
That fucking four o'clock, yeah?

830
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Four o'clock on the dot, ringing me.

831
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Need a crack rock, fucking hell.

832
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,240
I just gotta lob my phone out.

833
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200
This is podcast time, not fucking work time.

834
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Darcy, go away.

835
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Go away.

836
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Leave me alone.

837
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,840
Yeah.

838
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,320
You want-

839
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400
I wish that fucking Nemesis system wasn't patterned.

840
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,240
Yeah.

841
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,080
I've-

842
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Something like that would be-

843
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Why, why you would take a Nemesis system like that,

844
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
and then say, this is fantastic.

845
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760
This is one of the best things that we've ever created.

846
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680
No one can use it, and we're not gonna use it anymore.

847
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Yeah.

848
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,360
We're gonna use it for two games,

849
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,600
improve it on the second game, tenfold,

850
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,680
and then no one can use it.

851
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,280
And then we're not gonna do anything with it.

852
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,400
So thank you.

853
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,240
See ya.

854
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440
So, would you want something with a dedicated cast,

855
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
like from the Lord of the Rings,

856
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,520
so with Legolas, Boromir, Aragon, and your man, Gimli?

857
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,360
Yeah.

858
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Or would you want it to be sort of like,

859
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,520
do you remember Third Age?

860
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Which was, it was a turn-based one as well, but it was-

861
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Third Age, Rings of Bell, I don't remember it.

862
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,720
It was very much like some of the middle ground,

863
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,920
like Final Fantasies, where the combat was turn-based,

864
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,960
and it was like you had your line up,

865
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
but then the rest of it, you could run around-

866
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,760
Yeah.

867
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,720
You could run around Moria and stuff like that,

868
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,680
and each, there was different sections

869
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,560
that sort of mirrored the first film,

870
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360
and like the second film,

871
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,240
and it had its own unique characters.

872
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,600
I think even the main character

873
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,280
was looking for Boromir or something,

874
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,600
that was the whole tie-in.

875
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,520
But, so you had unique and new characters,

876
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280
or would you want the ability to make your own character

877
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560
for the Lord of the Rings world?

878
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Because the problem with trying to have an ensemble cast

879
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800
is you have to have named characters.

880
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,560
Yeah.

881
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,160
And what do you actually want out of a Lord of the Rings game?

882
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,840
You want, you gotta go down an MMO route,

883
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,880
haven't you, really?

884
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,280
Well, there is a Lord of the Rings MMO.

885
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360
I know, but it's not fucking updated.

886
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,560
It's not up to scratch.

887
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
You just want a new MMO-y style,

888
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
probably like Elder Scrolls style,

889
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,280
Elder Scrolls Online, but like wow quality,

890
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,880
but Lord of the Rings.

891
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Yeah, kind of.

892
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,800
I'd wanna keep the wow style of combat and everything.

893
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,720
I don't think I'd wanna switch over to ESO,

894
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,480
because then I feel like you just,

895
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,600
at that point you're just Skyrim in your...

896
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Sort of, yeah.

897
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,880
I suppose, yeah, that's true.

898
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280
I would want, yeah, man.

899
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,160
There's no one that's ever gonna take up that space,

900
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,000
because...

901
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,440
No, there's no, wow is the MMO.

902
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Yeah, if it hasn't been done, if...

903
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,680
But then I don't know if I'd want wow

904
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,840
with a Lord of the Rings skin.

905
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320
I'll tell you what, no, I wouldn't want an MMO.

906
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,320
I would want a single player Lord of the Rings game,

907
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,120
and I would want it to be a specific storyline

908
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,800
that somehow would tie...

909
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Something...

910
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Something like Shadow of War,

911
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
but Shadow of Morrow, but not...

912
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,400
Yeah, but beefier, I feel like...

913
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,840
More than the small...

914
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,680
Who made that?

915
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,160
I can't even remember who made that.

916
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920
What, Shadow of War?

917
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,280
Fucking hell, we spoke about that before as well.

918
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,320
I know it was under...

919
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Was it under Ubisoft in the end?

920
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Or was it...

921
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Shadow...

922
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,040
But either way, yeah, I get it,

923
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,400
because Shadow of War was good,

924
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
and Shadow of Morrow, the Shadow games were good,

925
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,840
and they were very unique,

926
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,760
and they actually had decent, unique...

927
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520
They were kind of plain,

928
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,840
but they did have decent characters in it.

929
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Like Talion was a decent idea,

930
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,600
and the whole union he had with Calabrimble was very good.

931
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Yeah, it was very...

932
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,720
Warner Brother games were the publisher,

933
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080
and then Monolith Productions were the developer.

934
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,360
WB.

935
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,800
And then, yeah, they fucking patented the Nemesis system.

936
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,400
Yeah, it was a shame, because that was quite clever.

937
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,320
It was very fucking clever,

938
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,640
and it's never been duplicated.

939
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320
No one's ever done anything close to that.

940
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,320
And yeah, I feel like I would...

941
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Yeah, I'd wanna sing...

942
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,280
Kinda like...

943
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000
On the same par with something like God of War

944
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,960
or The Last of Us, like that type of deep storytelling...

945
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,360
Yeah, feeling the God of War.

946
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560
...in Lord of the Rings.

947
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,360
Because, and like you have the...

948
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,200
There's so much lore involved in that,

949
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,520
that you can fucking, you can explore.

950
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,080
You stay away from the movies,

951
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,240
because I think they need to be left alone as their own gems.

952
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:22,760
You haven't got to adapt a fucking game from that.

953
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,040
It's already been done.

954
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880
It's already been done many, many moons ago.

955
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,280
So many of those films are...

956
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Many years ago, just the Lord of the Rings game.

957
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,400
Yeah, even that was good.

958
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Yeah, it was very good, very fucking good.

959
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
If you could just pick...

960
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,440
I don't know what you would really run with.

961
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,280
It would be quite nice to see more of like

962
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,120
the dwarven side of things,

963
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,360
but then you kind of had that explored with the Hobbit.

964
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,200
What have you got?

965
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,760
There's that silly, terrible Moria game that came out

966
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,760
that wasn't very good.

967
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,280
Oh, the survival.

968
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Yeah, that fucking flopped straight down, didn't it?

969
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,200
What is that? Is there another one?

970
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,760
Which is annoying because it had fucking John Rhys Davies

971
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,400
as one of the fucking voice actors in it.

972
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,080
I'd like to get to my wishlist, please.

973
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,320
And it just fucking flopped.

974
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,960
Where are you? There it is.

975
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680
I don't know if it's specifically for...

976
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760
Where are you? You're on here.

977
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360
Return to Nangrim.

978
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,640
It'll let me open it, but the signal here is terrible.

979
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Oh yeah, you're not on the Wi-Fi.

980
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,880
No, I'm not.

981
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Sorry.

982
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,400
I'm not a regular.

983
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,320
Just a little scum.

984
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,000
What other fucking storylines could you roll with?

985
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,720
Yeah, I don't know.

986
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,440
Because the minds of Moria and all that kind of stuff,

987
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,320
I think that that dwarven side of things is always,

988
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680
I feel like, explored in that sort of fantasy world.

989
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Every man wants to be a dwarf.

990
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,800
Yeah, they're a big part of that industry.

991
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Hobbits, I don't think hold enough essence to fucking...

992
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Not really.

993
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640
...captivate anyone.

994
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Elves have been fucking overdone to...

995
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560
You just have to be men.

996
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,200
People just did a cement.

997
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,680
You just have to be a human man.

998
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,000
You got Aragorn...

999
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,720
Rohirrim or Gondorian, you'd essentially have to be,

1000
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,080
essentially.

1001
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Which would be a cool storyline,

1002
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,400
a cool lore to write as a Rohirrim.

1003
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,840
Yeah.

1004
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Maybe if they did something along the lines of

1005
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,840
the arrival from Numenor,

1006
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,760
like the essentially...

1007
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Or maybe something to do with

1008
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,600
their takeover of Middle-earth

1009
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
or even the Rohirrim side of it.

1010
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Or Gandalf's side to it.

1011
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,440
The wizard side of Lord of the Rings.

1012
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,240
Because I feel like that

1013
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:54,080
isn't actually explored all too much.

1014
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,120
It's quite vague.

1015
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,240
Yeah, the films keep it very loose for the fact

1016
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,160
he is essentially angelic.

1017
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Here's some wizards.

1018
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,480
They're the most powerful beings you've ever met.

1019
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040
We're not going to show you exactly how they got to be

1020
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,080
being how they were.

1021
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640
Oh, by the way, Gandalf actually died here

1022
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,160
and was then fucking resurrected.

1023
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,840
And we're not going to show you any of that

1024
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,800
of how that actually happened.

1025
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,680
But he's now white.

1026
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,000
It's very...

1027
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,240
Yeah, don't get me wrong.

1028
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,800
I'm not fucking digging it because I feel like

1029
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,360
in the movies doesn't need to be explored.

1030
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,160
They do a very good enough job of just

1031
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,760
throwing that in and you fucking...

1032
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,600
It's too much other shit going on.

1033
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,160
You love it.

1034
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,280
Yeah, I definitely remember as a kid,

1035
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,960
I didn't understand what was going on

1036
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,280
and why he made a reappearance in the second film.

1037
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,160
I was like, I don't know.

1038
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,280
I still don't understand now.

1039
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,200
I have no fucking...

1040
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,760
All I know is that he was like, it wasn't my time.

1041
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,800
Okay, but what brought you back?

1042
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Because he's a demi-god.

1043
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,320
That's the whole...

1044
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,040
What, Gandalf?

1045
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Yeah, Gandalf's basically an angelic figure in the universe.

1046
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:56,800
Yeah.

1047
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,880
The god, the creator of it said, well, like, yeah,

1048
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,560
you need to be doing fixing Middle Earth now

1049
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,920
because you're one of the only ones left.

1050
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,800
Yeah, he's essentially white.

1051
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,600
So it would be so incredible to roll with that one.

1052
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,760
Come away from the dwarves, come away from elves,

1053
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,480
even come away from the human side of it

1054
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,840
because as cool as like Rohirrim and all of that would be,

1055
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,360
I feel like that's an easy pathway to go down as well

1056
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,280
because it's just humans with swords.

1057
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Whereas...

1058
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,680
We're making another fantasy.

1059
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Yeah, whereas...

1060
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,360
We're making another medieval fantasy style game,

1061
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,360
but we're giving it Lord of the Rings skin.

1062
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Something down the wizardry aspect of it,

1063
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120
where you're forced into that ranged aspect of it

1064
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040
every now and then you can fucking throw in the melee

1065
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,440
with what staff and bang, bang, bang.

1066
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480
That would be really cool.

1067
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,320
You wouldn't take an order man's staff.

1068
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,480
Walking stick.

1069
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
But that's just a spitball there

1070
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,040
that I'm sure has been fucking balled up

1071
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,280
and thrown around a million times before.

1072
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
I think it's difficult where Lord of the Rings

1073
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,480
is such a big thing as well

1074
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,640
to actually make a definitive plot line

1075
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880
and a definitive game because they can go quite...

1076
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,200
The Shadow games were almost very throwaway in the world,

1077
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,040
but they don't make that much difference.

1078
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,720
In the plot that they run,

1079
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,920
it does kind of hold us a lot of sway, but truthfully...

1080
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200
There's some lore involved with it.

1081
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,880
It's not that deep overall.

1082
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,440
But it's...

1083
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,600
I feel like...

1084
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800
And I feel like Star Wars runs into that issue of...

1085
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,120
They're so monumental.

1086
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,280
If you were to create something like a game alongside that,

1087
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,640
it's going to be so harshly critiqued

1088
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,120
that it has to be decent.

1089
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480
You think you look at the current Star Wars games,

1090
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,560
you got, or even like Outlaws that's coming out.

1091
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,920
I was going to say, I literally was looking at where

1092
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,520
the Outlaws was coming out and that's in late August.

1093
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,020
Yeah.

1094
00:40:00,020 --> 00:40:02,740
And that will be heavily fucking knocked 100%.

1095
00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:05,140
Oh yeah, they were already banging on it at the minute,

1096
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:07,540
even for the main character, just because she's a woman.

1097
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:08,580
Yeah, pretty much.

1098
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:09,220
Pretty much.

1099
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:11,140
Because it's a bunch of sweaty Star Wars nerds.

1100
00:40:11,140 --> 00:40:12,100
Yeah, sweaty nerds are doing it.

1101
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,540
I'm sure they'd be sweaty nerds for...

1102
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:14,900
Well, it's just nerds.

1103
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:15,940
Nerds are horrible.

1104
00:40:15,940 --> 00:40:18,100
Round them up and kill them.

1105
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,100
But any Star Wars...

1106
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,140
There goes the fan base.

1107
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:21,700
Yeah.

1108
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:24,580
Any Star Wars games are...

1109
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:27,220
They do have that...

1110
00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:28,820
They do have that...

1111
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:34,180
That critic around it, because you have such a loving fan base

1112
00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:36,500
of such a big IP.

1113
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,580
People just want stuff that reflects their...

1114
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:39,940
Their love for it.

1115
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:40,740
Yeah, their love for it.

1116
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:41,240
That...

1117
00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:43,300
And I'd be exactly the same.

1118
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,300
And, Am, Gollum was fucking awful.

1119
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:47,380
I was waiting so long for that.

1120
00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:49,940
I thought this was going to be fucking decent.

1121
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:51,380
And then you do get annoyed when it comes out.

1122
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:52,500
You go, this is shit.

1123
00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:54,980
Because this isn't what I love.

1124
00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:55,860
This is too fast at four graphics.

1125
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:57,860
Yeah, this is absolute bollocks.

1126
00:40:57,860 --> 00:41:00,100
You could have slapped Unreal Engine 5 graphics on it.

1127
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,060
It's still wank.

1128
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:02,740
It's like that's not...

1129
00:41:02,740 --> 00:41:04,100
Hang on, let me get them Kong...

1130
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:04,740
Yeah, that's...

1131
00:41:04,740 --> 00:41:05,460
Kong still frame.

1132
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:07,300
That's not what...

1133
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:08,100
That was crazy.

1134
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,220
That shit, that was fucking...

1135
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:10,820
That was ridiculous.

1136
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:11,620
It was around the same time.

1137
00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:13,940
And the fact that that was like 50, 60 quid as well

1138
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:15,460
is even more fucking mental.

1139
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:17,380
That's just a straight up cash grab.

1140
00:41:17,380 --> 00:41:18,180
Yeah.

1141
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:18,900
But like...

1142
00:41:19,540 --> 00:41:21,380
Yeah, maybe that's why it's difficult.

1143
00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:22,740
But at the same time, you also have...

1144
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:25,300
From an innovation point of view,

1145
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:29,540
you want people, you want studios to make games

1146
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:32,340
that are detached from the mainstream.

1147
00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:33,300
Yeah, I was literally about to say,

1148
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:36,340
there's too many games that are reliant on mainstream IPs.

1149
00:41:36,340 --> 00:41:36,820
Yeah.

1150
00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:40,660
Like Assassin's Creed is too reliant on the AC tag.

1151
00:41:40,660 --> 00:41:44,340
Like Valhalla Odyssey Origins is too reliant on that tag.

1152
00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:48,340
All the Star Wars games are a little bit too reliant on Star Wars.

1153
00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:50,420
Yeah, Assassin's Creed, drop it.

1154
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:52,980
And then even, it's nice.

1155
00:41:52,980 --> 00:41:55,460
Well, a lot of games are like that.

1156
00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,020
There's no...

1157
00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:58,020
Probably why people don't want to touch a Lord of the Rings game

1158
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:00,660
because they don't want to slap a Lord of the Rings title on it.

1159
00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:01,460
Yeah.

1160
00:42:01,460 --> 00:42:03,300
Truthfully, whereas it's easier to...

1161
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:08,420
It's not even easy to come up with individual and unique ideas

1162
00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:10,500
apart from in the indie scene.

1163
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,140
But it seems like only the small creators are the ones

1164
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:17,060
that can come up with games that are by the by just unique.

1165
00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:17,620
I think...

1166
00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:18,580
And new and refreshing.

1167
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:22,980
One of the only...

1168
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:27,300
For me, anyway, one of the most notoriously unique

1169
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:29,060
and just what the fuck is this?

1170
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:32,100
This is incredible, but so fucking weird

1171
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,180
and I've never seen this replicated before.

1172
00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,740
For me, would be something...

1173
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:37,780
Control.

1174
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:38,660
Yeah.

1175
00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:43,060
Control is so monumentally weird.

1176
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:48,260
And I still, to this day, don't understand.

1177
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:50,820
Don't know what the fuck is about the Hiss.

1178
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:52,020
I don't know.

1179
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:54,420
I don't know what the Hiss are, where they've come from,

1180
00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:56,500
why am I in this building?

1181
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:57,700
I don't know what's happening.

1182
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:58,580
My brother's here.

1183
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:00,020
What's going on?

1184
00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:03,220
And that was such a good game.

1185
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:06,900
I'm so happy that there's a Control 2 on the way.

1186
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,220
That was with the redhead, wasn't it?

1187
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:09,700
Yeah.

1188
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:10,420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1189
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:12,500
And she had supernatural powers where...

1190
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,180
Because I never really looked into it that much,

1191
00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:16,260
but I knew people were going on about it.

1192
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:16,820
So good.

1193
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:17,300
So good.

1194
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,380
Was it PlayStation exclusive?

1195
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:19,780
No.

1196
00:43:19,780 --> 00:43:20,420
Was it not?

1197
00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:21,300
No, it's on Steam.

1198
00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:22,740
It's real fucking good.

1199
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:23,540
It...

1200
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:25,620
Oh, it's just...

1201
00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:29,540
Yeah, because I think I'm confusing it a little bit with Prey.

1202
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:30,500
I think it is.

1203
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:31,140
Yeah.

1204
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:34,580
Which is very like got the same kind of aspect of it,

1205
00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:37,700
but I think it's not the same because there's some weird alien

1206
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:38,660
or whatever it is.

1207
00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:39,220
Control.

1208
00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:39,940
Type thing.

1209
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:40,820
Control was just...

1210
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:44,980
I can't explain the premise of the game, lore-wise,

1211
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:46,100
because it's just so fucked up.

1212
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:48,340
I think there do need to be more games that just don't explain

1213
00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:50,580
what is going on sometimes.

1214
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:51,300
Yeah, because...

1215
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,860
Just put out a game that goes,

1216
00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:55,460
you're just living this story.

1217
00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:59,620
Fuck knows what truthfully is going on.

1218
00:43:59,620 --> 00:44:04,500
It's a tight line to get people to walk because it is that if you...

1219
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:07,700
So with control, you load up that game.

1220
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:10,180
I don't know what the fuck's going on.

1221
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:11,380
I have no idea what's happening.

1222
00:44:11,380 --> 00:44:12,260
I'm watching everything.

1223
00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:13,300
I'm listening to everything.

1224
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:14,100
I don't know.

1225
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:15,940
There's some weird fucking janitor.

1226
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:16,580
I don't know.

1227
00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:18,020
He speaks funny.

1228
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:20,580
I don't know what the fuck he wants, but he keeps popping up.

1229
00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:21,300
It's really weird.

1230
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:23,380
There's a floating TV.

1231
00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:24,420
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

1232
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:29,780
You've got that, but then you've got an incredible combat system

1233
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:31,540
that feels really fucking good.

1234
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:33,700
Really cool supernatural powers.

1235
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:34,420
Everything about it.

1236
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:35,460
The combat is great.

1237
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:40,900
The story, the visuals, everything else about it is great.

1238
00:44:41,860 --> 00:44:44,180
So that makes you stick around.

1239
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:46,020
Okay, I'm interested in this game.

1240
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:50,260
I'm going to stick with it to find out what the fuck this weirdness is really about.

1241
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:56,340
And then you've got that unique combat style sort of pushing you...

1242
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:58,580
Does it drop you straight in with the power?

1243
00:44:58,580 --> 00:44:59,940
I know probably not all of the powers, but...

1244
00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:00,440
No.

1245
00:45:01,860 --> 00:45:02,900
It drops you in...

1246
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,540
With just enough to have a little bit of spice.

1247
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:08,580
Because your one and only weapon is a gun.

1248
00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:10,900
And the gun changes.

1249
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:18,500
So you have sort of like standard pistol, and then you can turn it into like a pistol, sniper, and shotgun, and so on.

1250
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:21,620
But it's made out of cubes.

1251
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:25,940
So it will just swap and rotate as when you demand it to.

1252
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:26,820
Rubik's Cube gun, yeah.

1253
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:27,620
Basically, yeah.

1254
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:32,420
And it sounds boring, but it's actually so fucking good.

1255
00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:39,460
And then your weapons, you can pick up like these weird gem engram things that give it stats.

1256
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:41,700
It will be like 10% headshot damage.

1257
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,540
It will be like more health or like the standard bollocks.

1258
00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:54,340
And then yeah, later on, not that later on, you start to gain your powers from like possessed items, they call them.

1259
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:57,460
And there's like ones that make you levitate.

1260
00:45:57,460 --> 00:46:00,180
Ones that like fucking...

1261
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:05,220
You can pick objects up and fucking launch them and put like telekinesis type shit.

1262
00:46:05,220 --> 00:46:12,580
You can like bend the mind of the enemies and turn them into like your friends and shit like that.

1263
00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:15,860
And it just feels so good.

1264
00:46:16,660 --> 00:46:21,380
But it's such a mind fuck to work out what is going on because it is really odd.

1265
00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:23,220
And the place that you're in is really odd.

1266
00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:30,660
But because it feels and plays so good, you're more than happy to divulge into that and see what's going on.

1267
00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:35,780
Whereas if you drop someone into a game and they have absolutely no idea what they're doing,

1268
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:41,220
and that game's not almost immediately engaging to play and fun,

1269
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:43,060
most people are going to switch it off and go, that's not for me.

1270
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:43,620
It's too fucking good.

1271
00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:49,620
I think unfortunately there's a lot of that now that I tend to find if a game doesn't really take me in the first little bit,

1272
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,060
which unfortunately is quite a few games at the minute.

1273
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:57,860
Like Dragon's Dogma 2 has kind of done that to a point where I was really struggling at the start

1274
00:46:57,860 --> 00:47:01,780
and then kind of enjoyed it and now I've hit that end game part that Ash was going on about.

1275
00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:03,540
And I'm like, I need to take a break again.

1276
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,260
Because you don't have the time.

1277
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:06,740
Yeah.

1278
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,940
You just said you don't have the time for a Souls-like game.

1279
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:12,980
You don't have the time to sit at home and get pissed off because you've had a long day already.

1280
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:14,500
You don't want to waste your time.

1281
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,660
Your precious hours at home just getting pissed off.

1282
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:21,060
And it begs the question, something like Dragon's Dogma,

1283
00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:26,980
if there weren't the hype surrounding it, do you think you would have really stuck it out?

1284
00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:30,820
If you didn't have people actively telling you, no, this game's fucking sick.

1285
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,140
This is decent. This is game of the year. Blah, blah, blah.

1286
00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:35,460
Here's all the clips. Look how fucking fun this game is.

1287
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:39,860
I think I would have given it a fair whack because I played Dragon's Dogma 1 and I enjoyed that.

1288
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:43,860
But then I enjoyed that in a time when I had a lot more free time versus,

1289
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:47,460
to be honest, I don't feel that they've changed that much since the first game.

1290
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:50,900
Like truthfully, they haven't changed much of any of the enemy types.

1291
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:53,460
And the combat feels much the same.

1292
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:57,700
They've actually changed out some of the classes that I used to enjoy from previous game.

1293
00:47:58,740 --> 00:47:59,860
They've just removed them.

1294
00:48:00,420 --> 00:48:04,500
That is a good game, but I think I've said it to you multiple times that it feels like the game

1295
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,220
is synthetic in its length because there's no...

1296
00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:08,180
It's forcing.

1297
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:12,580
Yeah, it's forcing you to backtrack and run around and things like that.

1298
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:16,180
The fast travel is limited.

1299
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:19,780
That it doesn't help you to get from A to B when you've got to fight

1300
00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:25,780
400 monsters between A and B and every left turn you take has got another six enemies to fight.

1301
00:48:25,780 --> 00:48:30,500
And that is exactly how me and Ash felt with Final Fantasy Online.

1302
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:31,060
Yeah.

1303
00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:34,500
For getting through the first, like into the first expansion.

1304
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:37,060
It is just synthetic.

1305
00:48:37,060 --> 00:48:41,300
It's that go and talk to this person and then talk to this person, go back to where you were,

1306
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:46,020
talk to this person, give this person some cake, now pick some apples, go and fight this person.

1307
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:50,740
That's all you're fighting done for the next 17 hours, go and talk to this person.

1308
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:53,060
It's like you cut out this bollocks.

1309
00:48:55,860 --> 00:48:57,060
Which they are, to be fair.

1310
00:48:57,060 --> 00:49:00,180
They're bringing in a skip when fucking Dawn Trail comes out,

1311
00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:02,660
which cuts out a lot of that.

1312
00:49:02,660 --> 00:49:04,340
World of Warcraft done the same thing.

1313
00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:07,220
You start in Shadowlands if you're a brand new player.

1314
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:11,940
That in itself doesn't make sense because as a new player,

1315
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:13,300
you won't have any fucking clue what's going on.

1316
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:18,100
But even then they've cut out, there's a lot of skips involved, which,

1317
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:20,580
yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

1318
00:49:21,380 --> 00:49:25,140
When you've been forced, I think you need your handheld just enough

1319
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:27,620
to point you in the right direction, especially with certain,

1320
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:32,180
there's been games like ESO Online, hadn't played since it dropped.

1321
00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:33,540
And you were like, yeah, it's great.

1322
00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:33,860
It's great.

1323
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:36,660
And I got in and went, what am I doing?

1324
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:37,300
Where am I?

1325
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:38,660
Where the fuck am I going?

1326
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:42,580
Because no one's like guiding me in any direction.

1327
00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:45,140
And there's like 14 different routes you can take.

1328
00:49:45,140 --> 00:49:47,380
Yeah, ESO was a weird one because I remember

1329
00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:49,860
when me and Steph were quite heavy into it, like searching up,

1330
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:55,540
because obviously once you get ESO Plus, you have access to all of the DLC,

1331
00:49:55,540 --> 00:49:57,860
apart from the current one, which is cool.

1332
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:04,180
And it is like, what am I supposed to be doing?

1333
00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:08,500
You've got the main quest, which is from the original.

1334
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:12,500
And obviously you do that because number one, if you're first doing it,

1335
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:13,460
it's good for story.

1336
00:50:14,020 --> 00:50:16,020
And you've got Michael Gambo on this voice acting, the whole thing.

1337
00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:20,020
And then number two, it's great for fucking skill points and leveling up.

1338
00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:20,820
Fantastic.

1339
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:25,380
But then after that, it's like, okay, well, what do I do?

1340
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:26,580
What am I supposed to be doing here?

1341
00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:28,420
And you ask everyone, they go, do whatever you want.

1342
00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:30,420
Well, that doesn't help me.

1343
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:31,460
I need some direction here.

1344
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:35,220
I feel like linear games that give you a sandbox linear games.

1345
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:36,260
Yeah.

1346
00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:37,380
Are very helpful.

1347
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:37,620
Yeah.

1348
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:39,220
And are like my preference.

1349
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:39,460
Yeah.

1350
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:42,980
But I feel like with a live service game, especially in MMO,

1351
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:46,900
it's so difficult for new players to delve into that

1352
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:51,860
when the game is already so well established and you have so much more going on,

1353
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,100
especially something like WoW, Final Fantasy, ESO,

1354
00:50:57,380 --> 00:51:01,860
even to a point like games like Lost Ark, like ARPGs and shit like that.

1355
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:07,620
Because for a seasoned player, so me, for example,

1356
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:09,220
I jump onto WoW.

1357
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:10,660
I know exactly what I'm doing.

1358
00:51:10,660 --> 00:51:11,780
I want to get to the end game.

1359
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:12,180
Yeah.

1360
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:17,860
I've made a new character, big splash boss, level that fucker up, get to the end game.

1361
00:51:17,860 --> 00:51:21,380
However, now it's with an outlook of, okay, let's start questioning the zones

1362
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:26,660
I've never touched before because I want to enjoy it because I know what I need to be doing.

1363
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:29,860
I mean, no rush and I know exactly where I am and how to do it.

1364
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:31,460
You've done literally everything else.

1365
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:31,940
Yeah.

1366
00:51:31,940 --> 00:51:34,420
There's nothing else for you to do apart from the stuff that you haven't touched.

1367
00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:38,420
Yeah. Whereas a new player...

1368
00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:40,660
For me, it was massively like, what am I doing?

1369
00:51:40,660 --> 00:51:47,220
It's overwhelming because the leveling at the moment is fucked.

1370
00:51:47,220 --> 00:51:49,780
So you level up way too fast for a new player.

1371
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:54,180
You don't take anything in and then you're immediately thrown into Dragonfly,

1372
00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:56,260
which is the current expansion.

1373
00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:57,940
And you're like, I don't know what to do.

1374
00:51:57,940 --> 00:52:03,220
And then whenever you ask anyone, it's just get to fucking level 70 and then grind gear.

1375
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:06,820
It's like, okay, but how do I do that?

1376
00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:08,020
What am I doing? I'm missing out.

1377
00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:11,380
And it's very, very difficult.

1378
00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:17,940
Obviously they're bringing out that remix on the seventh of this month,

1379
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:24,260
which is Mr. Pandaria, where they have assured that they've scaled it so that you will start

1380
00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:26,900
at level 10 and then level up to 70.

1381
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:32,820
But they've said many times, you will be able to do every single quest in every single zone

1382
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:35,380
and all the dungeons without exceeding that.

1383
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:42,900
It will be how it was in old school where for a very, well, not even for a brief period,

1384
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:48,900
for a long time with WoW classic, like vanilla, very first fucking iteration of WoW,

1385
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:50,580
there weren't enough quests.

1386
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:55,540
You finished all the quests and it wasn't enough to get you to max level.

1387
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:58,900
You just have to do dungeons and fucking grind and kill mobs and shit like that.

1388
00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:01,620
And obviously that's one extreme.

1389
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:04,820
And now you've got the other extreme where you barely fucking touch any quests.

1390
00:53:04,820 --> 00:53:06,900
You can just spam dungeons and then boom, boom, boom.

1391
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:08,100
And like, I think-

1392
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,540
What did we do for my tank that just went into dungeons?

1393
00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:12,900
Just went through all of them dungeons.

1394
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:15,940
Because then, again, you've got-

1395
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:16,820
Still don't know what I'm doing.

1396
00:53:16,820 --> 00:53:24,340
You've got the problem of if you're playing a damage role, that's absolutely fine.

1397
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:30,580
And is mostly recommended as a brand new player because whether you're questing,

1398
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:34,900
doing PvP or you're doing PvE or you're doing dungeons, fucking whatever,

1399
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,420
your rotation is your rotation.

1400
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:37,460
You're just doing damage.

1401
00:53:37,460 --> 00:53:39,700
You can learn that fucking doing anything.

1402
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:41,780
You're playing as a healer or a tank.

1403
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:45,140
You need group content to figure out what the fuck you're doing.

1404
00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:49,540
But you can't do the group content as a new player because you don't know what the fuck's going on

1405
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:50,980
and everyone says shit.

1406
00:53:50,980 --> 00:53:55,380
So as a tank, you can't just quest because you don't know what half your abilities do

1407
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:59,380
because you don't need to use them because the game isn't hard enough at that point

1408
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:01,140
for you to warrant using them.

1409
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:03,460
It's very difficult.

1410
00:54:04,180 --> 00:54:09,140
Blizzard have actively said their new player experience is shit,

1411
00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:11,300
which I think is decent from them to come out and say,

1412
00:54:11,860 --> 00:54:16,740
it's nowhere near where we want it to be and we're sinking a lot of resources into making it.

1413
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:23,140
Because I think they've realized that in order to continue as a company and as an MMO,

1414
00:54:23,780 --> 00:54:27,460
you need to make it more easily accessible to new players

1415
00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:32,340
because I guarantee most of the people listen to this that if they've never played WoW before,

1416
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:35,460
won't have a fucking clue if they logged in because you don't.

1417
00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:39,300
No, it's very, there's nothing to hold your hand straight away.

1418
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:39,860
No.

1419
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:47,940
Apart from that, if you do the new version of the tutorial area, that basically pushes you

1420
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:49,780
throughout to level 10.

1421
00:54:49,780 --> 00:54:50,420
And then there you go.

1422
00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:55,300
And then you're dumped out in your capital city and you're free to do whatever.

1423
00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:58,580
With zero direction, with about a million quests on offer.

1424
00:54:58,580 --> 00:54:59,380
Isn't the best.

1425
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:01,620
And you're like, I don't know what to do.

1426
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:05,700
Your favorite game though.

1427
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:06,820
It is.

1428
00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:09,140
You can't leave it alone to play anything else.

1429
00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:10,020
Absolute addiction.

1430
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:13,380
I'm raiding tonight and I cannot fucking wait because I'm not in work tomorrow.

1431
00:55:14,020 --> 00:55:18,180
And I can fucking stay up late and kill lots of bosses and get some gear.

1432
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:20,020
But.

1433
00:55:20,020 --> 00:55:21,460
Meanwhile, I've got an early start.

1434
00:55:21,460 --> 00:55:22,580
You've got a nice early start.

1435
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:26,900
But we'll fucking leave it there and do the Patreon.

1436
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:28,820
Nice one.

1437
00:55:28,820 --> 00:55:29,220
Lovely.

1438
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:30,020
Thanks for coming.

1439
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:30,740
Thanks for listening.

1440
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:31,380
See you later.

1441
00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:31,860
Thanks people.

1442
00:55:31,860 --> 00:55:42,580
Amen.