This is number 90
God
Episode
90 9 0 10 away from fucking big one, Hannah. No Ashley. No Ashley
He's not available today in basement again. Sorry
We have a fucking Connie Connie again, we've got the dungeon master mr. Standen your fucking DM. Oh my god
You like that didn't you?
It's gonna be an hour contrived of just D&D
D&D so if you're not a fan, let's be fair if you're not a fan of D&D it probably means you've never played it before
Yeah tough tip, we're talking about it. This might be somewhat interesting to get you
in the in the vibe of the
Coffee with no sugar. No change man. I am changed. Um
what a
fantastic time
Me Connor ash and Darrell played
D&D last weekend little virgins D&D virgins the three of them
And we'd never we'd never done D&D before but we were we've been talking for fucking
Like a year. Yeah over a year trying to set it up
and
Sorry, I'm sorry. It took so long finally went for it and fucking hell what a fun experience
That was we've got to yours for like 12 ish and didn't leave until like nine
I think everyone left about nine and and
You and ash turned up about like four past 20 past 12 and yeah, which is pretty standard like my mates
We turn up about after two and then the latest I've stayed there till was about four o'clock in the morning
Yeah, we've got a good still went home. We've got a good like fucking six seven hours worth of playtime
I think you're very far in the adventure, but
Absolute fucking chaos. Yeah
But it's so much fun it's so much fun
Well, I thought that it was it was gonna be like very nerdy, which I'm not opposed to
but the
the
role-playing
Aspect of it. It's you get what you give. Yeah
That's the easiest way to explain what you're gonna get out of D&D is that if you don't want to put a lot into it
You're not gonna get a lot out of it. I know people who are like that. I'm friends with that they
Were very much into the idea of it. But as soon as I started playing it
No, I found they weren't so much a fan and especially when like they played it during kovat and hit online D&D
I couldn't keep the attention on it because it's drastically different
when you've surrounded like live D&D or in person D&D is drastically different because
The atmosphere is different. Like if you were playing that online
It's like imagine that's your first game
How does that work when you're doing it online with the with the talking the dialogues in between?
Is that just like on on discord? Yeah, we're on discord mostly. We're like if we're running it
We'll have discord open we'll have mics on yeah, and then like whoever's running it like the DM might either do
Sometimes we do it with people there or we'll do it as there's there's different things like roll 20 or a better one like Foundry
Which is essentially like the maps. I was making up on on tabletop
You could make up digital and instead you could have so having physical minis
You could have little tokens that you've made up and instead, you know, you give player control to them and
You just load the maps those ways and then you can use digital dice or you know
You can go by a rule of trust that you can let people just roll with the dice that they have
And then they just tell you what the result is and you just go with it because that's pretty much what it is
Anyway, like if you want to lie about your dice results, you can do that anyway. Oh you can just
But at the end takes the fun out of it. Yeah, it is cheating
But you're just taking the fun out of it the fun out of the game. Well, we're talking about fucking dice rolls
Yours were terrible. I've I have never had you started strong the worst luck ever
The literally the first dice roll was was decent where I actually landed fucking attack still died
But landed or got absolutely fucked and no, yeah. No, I did die. No, I'll knock down conscious
Yeah, you got knocked on my only my only fucking decent attack was my very first one of slow
And a goblin's head into a tree and then after that it was just abysmal
I'm a I'm a berserker with with two fucking weapons and I couldn't hit fuck all
Nothing for the entire game until the very end. Oh, yeah
You got a crit at the end got a crit at the very end which she did kind of save the day at the end of that one
But fuck me. It's ridiculous
I will admit that that the first starter adventure that I'm playing it for you guys lost minor
Fandel but that it does say in the book that it's set for like parties of four to six
So truthfully the fact that you started as having two people
Yeah, but and then yeah, but that has no bearing on the fucking dice rolls. No true
But that's the point where in between plays we were checking my dice to make sure they weren't fucked or something
This is you. Yes, it's me. Just fucking can't roll. Dice. This is fucking ridiculous
So I'm gonna get some different dice because I know that some people just
Everyone rolls differently, but I know some people will literally just they'll grab a dice
They'll turn it over in their hand and they'll just drop it. Mm-hmm, which in theory should give you different results
But I know sometimes people have done it in a way that it gets you the same result
By the way, you've just picked it up and dropped it. Mm-hmm, which see I was picking them up shaking them in my hand
I was doing a bit of throwing I was doing a bit of dropping
I'll try and all sorts and just getting nice cup or something for you
So you can like a yacht like the yachts you fucking cut
I might do to be fair just to fucking help me. Let's get you had that paperweight bloody Ragnarok dice
No, the old heavy does sound that I want their metal ones that you had them big fucking chunky ones. They're on there
I think they were an Etsy by quiet a lot when I was first trying to get into D&D
I was like when I went too heavy and hadn't even played a game. I was like, well, I've got all the dice now
There's loads of I tried to give you those other ones as well as you know
I felt bad for taking them because you also didn't say take these dice
Oh, yeah, you're changing your mind now. No, you didn't say take these dice
So therefore I can't just pocket them. Well next time because you're too not you're too nice as well
I could have put I could have fucking picked up the table and walked out of it and you would have gone. All right
Feels good. It's it's it's
Like you say you get out what you fucking put into it and it I just feel like it wasn't glad
I was nervous to have you guys playing it because being DM is nervous like and is
Can be nerve-racking anyway, because obviously everything is on you. You have to highlight your hosting. You're running everything your
All the monsters run you all the all the role-play interactions are the probably, you know, not realistically all of you
But every every every NPC is you so only it's the good time when you know
You that ash is calling you a smelly dwarf because and and going off on a tangent with that because it takes
The time off of me to prioritize other things or just sit back and have a little break
Yeah, fuck. You know, we're going off script
Jesus Christ
Baron in mind that we started off it because this whole buildup to obviously playing having a session of D&D
I've constantly been saying to rash. I'm gonna kill you
I'm gonna put my I'm gonna bury my axe in your fucking central nervous system. It's gonna happen
Well, yeah, that was that was some of the first questions you asked me when
Whenever it was it was like the one of the early episodes of the pod when I came down here and and and just stood in and went
Oh, yeah, if you want to play D&D, let's make some like mock-up characters. You went yeah, but how do you actually play D&D?
Mm-hmm without knowing with no exposure to it. You don't know how how that plays. I'm exposed now, whereas it's it's
Instead, you know, can I do this? Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, can I do that? Yeah can do whatever you want
It's there is there is elements of like I'm not I can't allow that but we went in with a truce and me and Adam
Ash both said at the beginning so we we will not attack each other. We'll defend himself today
He's not fucking we will leave and so he shouldn't do because we fucking pinker
He was thinking he was Adam and I was gonna attack him and I held out my pinky and I said I pinky promise
Yeah, I'm not gonna fucking hurt you and he and he grabbed my pinky with his pinky and we made a pact
I said, all right. There we go. Decent. It didn't last. It didn't last. What was it fucking?
Couple of hours and the geezer fucking starts attacking me out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever
It was robbed me fucking beat me. Yeah
That was started attacking me. Obviously, I have already decided that on our next playthrough. I'm not playing a melee character
I'm not doing it because I can't do anything
I can't do anything or if I'm if I'm gonna play a melee character
I want to be fucking Darrell. I want to be a Paladin a tank. I want to be someone that is difficult to hear. No
the thing is you're
Starting as we are like this again. It's your first session that
D&D at first level especially as a new player is very difficult
It's very difficult being a low level player
Anyway, even for seasoned people because you turn around to go
I've got eight hit points and truthfully, you know, most monsters can kill you in two turns or they can down you in two turns and like even
Truthfully, I should have gone a lot harsher on that on that goblin. This is four goblins mind you and they're they're very weak
But no obviously not because I slammed one of their fucking heads in a tree
He still waddled off and took me down eventually you only had to do that
Yeah, well, I didn't have it. Did I didn't have it in the fucking in the bank did I? Yeah, so truthfully
You know, it could have been a lot worse, but then at the same time
You'd feel a lot more powerful part beyond like everything spikes beyond like the things spike at level 3 because you get to pick your
Subclass so you'd end up being so you playing a barbarian you could take
Berserker bear to the top of the list
Berserker gets you more rage or you know higher levels of rage and then
The bear totem makes you immune to more and more damage become more tanky
But then there's like there's probably I think there's around four more five more now after all the books have been released
But each does different things. So there's like one one that
If you die, you can get rezzed without materials
They can just use the spell to get you back. Whereas usually it needs I forgot about the leveling system things like diamonds and stuff like that
We haven't even you know, I need to read reprocess it because the adventure doesn't necessarily factor in the fact of how we went off script
Because there is a bit that's been missed and I need to I need to go back and read through the magazine that it's all part of to work out
Exactly where you stand and what you've done so far in terms of how you can be leveled if if it's time for you to truthfully level up because once you hit
You know level two will be you feel more powerful. I'll tell I'll tell you three. You'll feel more powerful. I'll tell you what we've done
Carried a fucking escorted a cart of meats and other shit to a town. Yeah, that's it. Pretty much. That is all we've done
Yeah, true spoken to a couple people and then had a fucking had a fight in the town with some bandits, which we won
Yeah, and that is it. That is literally the entire seven hour fucking playthrough pretty so far
Yeah, I didn't expect much more than that to be honest. I was both
So both relieved and not relieved at the same time because I'm looking at it because I went from page one to like page seven
I am an absolute animal animalistic fucking barbarian whose only purpose in life is to slay things and kill things and number one
I can't and number two I ended up spending the majority of our playthrough washing in a horse trough because I had to do it
I'll play through washing in a horse trough because I had no money people spitting on my own fucking friends spitting on me
I've been robbed by my own friends. No one's helped me
Darryl had a fucking platter of food in front of me and didn't offer anything. I played my bagpipes. You know, I mean as as I feel like
The the barbarian class I've gone with I feel like barbarians are typically very numbskull
Just fucking hit things and if there's red stuff that comes out, that's good. Yeah, but the but the dwarven side of that dwarves are one of the smartest races
There's a lot in existence. I mean that they're they are they are very characterful. They know that they're greedy, but they know what they're doing
They're not stupid people. So when you when you combine that together, it's just I should be a smart barbarian
But to have to fucking washing a horse trough. That was your own choice, but I had nothing else to do
I mean, I said is there anything that I can wash with and then rolled a two or something?
Yeah, it's like what do I do it? I think, uh, well, the only thing you can see is a horse trough and it was your decision to get in it
It's so good. I tell you necessarily have to but my my issue ended up destroying the room with it because everyone loved it
My issue with it is is that I almost feel like I don't want it to become dry
Not that it was becoming dry, but there was some certain like interactions and stuff when it's like we need to spice something up
Like me running down the fucking through the forest just to see what happens. I feel like but that's I feel like that's more of an issue on my part in that
That's your ADHD. Yeah, I'm not allowing the the the story to really like I was it depends if you want it to be
Especially with like a written adventure. It depends if you want to stay on the rails or if you want to make it your own
And I feel like you probably wanted to make it your own, but then you have to balance it with the rest of the party
Yeah, you splitting up didn't help. Yeah, you should never it's never advised to split the party, but there's
It depends it depends on the on the players and the player types because you'll have some people will be risk-avoidant
And they'll see the fact that I dangled a massive plot hook in front of you and went who's gonna take it and then essentially, you know
I grabbed onto that motherfucker. Ash went down there and went nah, I think I'll turn back now
I'm going up there for about five minutes when you know, you've been traveling for the last
In game you've been traveling for the last like three days truthfully. Nothing's nothing's close, but
You know, it's yeah, cuz we never explored it did we know whereas you jumped on the opportunity and just went you know
We you were deliberating it and everyone was going back and forth and then the adh monkey brain kicked in you run down
I'm gonna run down it. Yeah, and then
You know that was I died and that was it, you know, essentially
They should have cuz it was it it's difficult to say because at the same time there's you gave them the option to follow though
Yeah, and they didn't fucking follow they wanted to carry on to the path and it's like no
There's an element of because everyone's made, you know, I had to make that Darrell of Harlow
And he's ironically the strongest person that we have with us
The most successful, you know, he's he had no real connection to it
But it's it's difficult because and I said this to a couple of people before we started that
I didn't want to do anything other than the
The Lost Minds of Vandelver because it's it's a the best starter adventure
and also for the fact that if I'd spent time on it and developed like backstories and
And things for you to be engaged before you even started the adventure and you turn around and go well
This is a bit shit to be honest. Yeah, it would have been a bit deep for me to have spent too long on it
But I think that's what I failed on
For running it as it was that I hadn't read too far ahead. I know what happened, but I hadn't read
Yeah enough between the lines to make things I think my age inconsistently, but I need to
but if I if I'd had the time to
Dress it up to apply to you guys
You might have had a bit more cohesion because obviously Ash is playing an absolute cunt
Yeah, to say the least. Fucking Drow
He's playing he decided that he wanted to play a Drow spellcaster who doesn't want to be part of the party
Thinks everyone's a cunt or thinks everyone's beneath them. So he's serving proper cunt energy. Yep that
It makes it slightly difficult not to say that Ash is doing bad with it
And you know, it's a good it's a fun character, but there's playing it well
But it's difficult to play of a cunt. That's what I mean. It makes it difficult for having a game that's based around party
Dynamics and the fact you're not stronger on your own
But he was for you. He was looking for health potions
Yeah, he wasn't afforded the opportunity to actually fulfill that. Yeah, because it all kicked off. I think for me, it's the
It's the role-playing aspect of it where I really need to delve into it in in in not not becoming the character
but the the interactions that we have and sort of rather than
So like how we're how we're interacting now. We're talking on a podcast
So in my head, I'm talking to you, but I'm also talking to the fucking mass amount of people
You know what I mean? But you could be but you're not actually talking to them
I'm talking to you, but at the same time in this room, I'm talking as if there's an audience
I'm trying to entertain as well. So and I feel like when it comes to playing D&D I
was almost
Doing the same type of thing in that. I'm I'm I'm trying to play as blue him
Who's my character and also trying to maintain?
me as
Reese in the room when what I needed to do on those interactions is drop Reese in the room and turn into broom
Yeah, and then interact in that sense in that it have that interaction as in the same aspect as if we were playing World of Warcraft together
And we're on and we're chatting to each other. I'm not chatting to you know, I mean we're we're doing a dungeon together
I'm talking to you as the fucking character to get through the dungeon, which is how I feel like I need to be on that
That's why I asked how the interactions work in terms of do we take turns on people doing things?
And obviously that's when you said don't split the party up because then you can hold those interactions
You haven't got a fucking keep you can just bounce back to each other
I think it would help for me to probably get into some like D&D podcasts and shit like that like what Ash has done
Yeah, I can easily recommend
Recommend some either like more cartoony ones. Well, who's the people that are at Comic Con?
There was crit roll
There was crit roll. I got loads of clips of them on on tick tock we keep popping up and they seem like really interesting to watch
They're if you want more of a like
Story opera style professional voice professional voice actors their guy the guy running it Matt Mercer has been doing it since he was a kid
Yeah, he's cool man. And he he knows everything like inside and out very he's very dynamic very well
You know very creative if you want something that's a big, you know Lord of the Rings style
You know cinema not cinema graphic, but you know like stylistic and very high fantasy
They're the kind of ones to pick. Whereas if you want something a little bit more light hearted
You're probably looking at something more like dimension 20. Hmm, because crit roll typically does an episode is like four hours
Yeah, and you can either choose to watch it on YouTube for all the all the video of it because there'll be battle maps that are actually not like crappy ones that I've been making that are just flat with little floorings on them, but there's big
You know this was it dwarven forge, which is all like resin actual props and actual things in front of you that it's all very stylized but they still do it as a podcast but you have to admit that it's going to be
You know an episode is four hours and their first their first campaign had 126 or something episodes that campaign to add like 120 there because I feel like campaign three and they've got 90 odd episodes out.
I feel like my plan is to have it playing whilst I'm playing World of Warcraft. Yeah, something that I can listen to and then tab into it.
It's that I want to fucking watch. They've got good crit roles got a good like I think it's called handbook a helper or something, something like that which basically runs through on how you can fundamentally play DND, which is quite useful for people like if I wasn't explaining things very well or in enough detail there's things that come out that you haven't come across but it's
Yeah, it's one of those ones that role plays a funny one to get into because, especially role playing in your character because you think in your head, what would I do as the player can be drastically different to what I want to do as the person running the scene.
So you've got you the character would do X, you know, like broom might, you know, brooms are barbarian warrior who wants to just like cut throats and bang heads like would want to smash a goblin in the head.
Yeah, smash a goblin's head against the tree because that's that's the mood he's in or, but you know you as the like me looking at that as a DM would go truthfully you're probably going to do less damage to smack his head into the tree but it's style so it's cool.
So it logically to me it's like you want to get that target off the board. But that's not how I want to play it like me as my in mind like the games that I, as a player in, you know me as a, as the, the person running the character wouldn't want to do something but I have like
my main is an elf Ranger rogue sort of combo. He was very good in shadows and things like that, and I have to, but I have to play him a certain way, because of things I've written into backstory and things like that where I'd be like, I'm not going to make this decision,
but he would.
Yeah, same thing for, you know you you guys starting out is that you have to, like you said you have to differentiate how you want to play the character and how you feel, you have to give them an identity, and it's a difficult thing for new players, especially, you know,
your first session, and like with bringing Darrell in later and essentially giving him a character. There's no pre existing personality to that character, and you, especially being first level characters and your first session you have to on the fly quickly realize
what this character is going to be so like ashes turn around and gone. He wants so lacks to be a prick, because he's gonna be, you know, Kurt, and, you know, brash with people. So, whenever when he's coming to town, he's been like that.
He's got that, got that grasp a little bit better on his character for what he wanted to be because he does that in his games. You know, like he's got rain dolo. He didn't want to bring in, but characters he just makes them pricks.
He said that in the past before that he plays evil characters because he can't be because you can't do that in real life is a fantasy which which 100% I understand since I've always found myself playing, playing a character how I would want to play
in real life. Yeah, it's how I've how I've found. There's no reason to say that isn't completely viable. Yeah, so I would I would probably base a lot of my interaction enough in a fantasy setting, no different to how I would base my interactions in the real world.
But obviously you add in the fact that I've got like a big battle axe and I'm going to cut someone's head off without going to prison if you're four foot tall.
Yeah, like with a flick of your finger. So that like that those different things come into play but predominantly I want to play a character the same way as as how I am.
But in the same token, it would be fun to get more comfortable with it and start exploring the role plan. I'm not sure about fucking voices.
I'm not I'm not very good at fucking doing that kind of shit. You have to do the Scottish accent for your room. But I think I think we could we could get there with it.
I've I understand the shoes that you're in from you know I'm what I've been playing D&D for what four years now and I still don't I feel sometimes still feel awkward doing voices for things and and didn't really do any particular when we were playing because it's getting
that sort of want to get comfortable with getting comfortable with with who you're playing with and whatever and even even in my main lot a lot of us don't really use too many voices more stuff like DM uses voices for things but you kind of have to and that's what I'll lean more into.
But it's just as if you're comfortable. At the end of the day, there's no there's no point making yourself uncomfortable because you have to do a silly voice or whatever there is.
It adds more. I think I think we'll be all right with it. Obviously, Ash was throwing a voice for the majority of his playthrough.
Bastard man voice. Yeah, just posh fucking rich prick voice. Yeah, it's not. There's not a lot in it. If I will kill him, I will kill him.
Ash chances are he's not going to fucking listen to this but if he does if you do listen, I'm going to kill you. The truth has been broken by yourself. I've already told everyone else what I'm going to do and at some point that axe is going in the back of your skull and I'm not going to bother picking you up.
I'm really going to throw it off the rails. That's right because he already he's he's got no mulligan. Yeah, he's dead. Yeah, no, I let everyone have a mulligan in a sense that if if things went horribly wrong.
They're going to just kill off their character and then say roll a new one because it's a little bit deep on your first first ever playthrough to go. Yeah, you're dead. I'm afraid. Is that what you do? So if I if I if I die and I'm not picked up no one comes to save me or they're not able to we have to roll as another character and you have to introduce another character into the fray.
If if you turn around and said okay, I'm done with brewing because for whatever reason a or b you say to be honest, I felt like he was just an introduction character for me. I feel like I want to try something else you could turn around and say to me.
I think we've discussed this before but you could turn around and say to me I don't want to play broom anymore.
Kill it either kill him off or write him out if you were just to die. You know say I don't know that the rest of the party was there whilst we you had the little alberry on the face. Yeah, that was great.
Seeing as I rolled that random. Yeah, yeah, there's an alberto you on it.
That if you just said to me, I don't want to come back and they they can either spend the resources on it to bring you back or if it's so lacks probably just say I'm not going to pick him up anyway. Yeah, I'm not gonna bother because he's a dirty smelly dwarf.
But yeah, if you didn't want to come back and you just say I want to roll as someone else. It would just be same process as before.
Yeah, we'll make a new character and then the next convenience will will appropriate moment will bring you in. So you're so characters barbarian.
I am. Are you are you able to change that at any point throughout the gameplay. If you had a deep enough story going on you able to say, say as a barbarian almost transition towards something like a like a rogue or a paladin type it there's a was it too much effort.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of options. So there's the option of you can multi class if you want, if you have the correct stats. So obviously, it's unlikely that you're going to get, I don't know, a wizard who's then going to go I'm going to be a rogue.
So your stats like the way DND works is your stats don't line up. You know the ad. So you had strength, strength, strength, dexterity, current constitution, intelligence, wisdom, charisma, so you're not a wizard who's got high intelligence but no decks isn't going to turn around and go I'm going to be a rogue now.
So it's more likely be like my example for my character or one of my characters is that I'm a ranger but I'm also dipped into rogue because both the deck stats.
So that would be appropriate, whereas you could as a barbarian you could straight away go into fighter, or you could even possibly go into Paladin, or any of those to get different perks from different ones but obviously there's a skew of the DB you go into one that you can't get like the capstone
like the barbarian capstone gets you like 24 strength and constitution so your health goes up massive and you can just smack people about. But there is good reason to do it for certain situations but at the same time with what you're asking that if
is one of those ones that is up to the DM. So if you turn around and say you play we play. Well we play the current adventure, which should take all of us up to what should it will take us up to level five if we use the same characters.
If you got to the end of that and said, I don't want to play drew him as a barbarian I will do him.
Blue Bay. No, it was D.
Well, no, it was. Was it be brewing, brewing. No, was it. I think it was to do him through him I think, oh my god if I named it wrong and well, possibly.
I have been I, I've gone fucking be where is the app here it is it's true him in it. Very certain it was through him. Yeah. Oh my god.
You rookie. I've named my character on well wrong doesn't even know your own character that is awful.
Where is it Babies first D and D, you have called yourself is day in it is through him here we go through him through him.
I wonder why blue him was fucking rolling off the tongue one through him, but he was, oh shit. No, you are doing.
Oh, so now I've got the one of what do I delete that character for the sake of fucking spend loads of money to rename it.
It's only level 10 so it only takes about fucking half an hour to fucking jump it back up.
Essentially, I said I don't want to play through him anymore.
As we could just, you could turn around and say to me I don't want to play him anymore as barbarian we can play as a fighter and I'd be like, yeah sure whatever.
Yeah, because we're so like we're quite light into it and I'm quite lacks on you know what's a fighter what's the difference between fighter and barbara your so long term fighters get up to four attacks with the ability to action surge as a bonus action which then lets you do essentially a whole action again, which you can then have eight attacks at the highest level.
Well, essentially the highest level plus you can get sometimes you can get extra attacks on top of that.
Can I swap to that. If you want, it's fine. There's more than fine. What do they use.
Anything fighters are the most technically the most generic, but also the most open to flavor.
So you can go, you can go sword and board. You essentially have the same you can't write you just the difference that we are we are right didn't really fucking serve me any purpose to it just for the amount of times I got battered, but that's the point of the barbarian though is the are meant to take damage, because you've got that that resistance will constantly take half damage from most things, except for when you get you get higher levels it becomes less, less present but you're by that point you should have massive amounts of health.
Yes, there's not a massive issue is, you know, by that point, you know, late game level 20 barbarians are looking at typically over 200 HP easily towards you, if you build the right you can probably get 300 plus HP, which is significant.
And then if you throw rage on top of that you've basically got anywhere between 406 hundred HP.
Yeah, it's true. So, and if you pick the, maybe I'll stick with barbarian like the bear tome barbarian you have immunity or resistance to every form of damage apart from force, which doesn't come up, it does come up, but isn't as frequent as all the rest.
So you're taking half damage from everything. While you're raging that's going to be me I'm at the moment my, my current play style for pretty much everything is just wanting to be a tank.
I just want, I'm tired of being like a meta slave to damage and wanting to have the most output I just, I'm a good class. Yeah, the idea of just being able to just take massive hits from loads of things while everyone else puts in all the fucking legwork.
The thing is you will still get hit because your, your armor class is still going to be fairly low. Yeah, I find that odd that it's a barbarian but it doesn't wear fucking mail or plate.
It's just level or cloth. That's so fucking odd. You don't get the choice to really wear much if any armor as a barbarian, which essentially is the flip of a fighter is that you can wear any and all armor types.
You know, obviously you'll miss out on the dexterity which you get from, because the way that the barbarians work is that they don't use without the armor they they multiply their scores slightly differently so you get a base score of 10.
Then you add your constitution and your dexterity so if you've got, say, a plus five in each you'll have a, you'll have a, you know, an armor class of 20. Yeah, whereas, you know, could you imagine, you just never get hit basically you still get hit but yeah, it'd be
fucking tough for me a lot less and well mind you the smaller enemies had struggled a lot more in one of one of the games that I play in, I have a cleric that has an AC of 23.
So, physical attacks don't really do a lot to me all that often. But it's everything else because then you start throwing when you get to higher levels things that that actually actively target your armor class become less and less frequent, because they'll start throwing
out big spells, because I'm gonna suddenly might go.
Well, I haven't been hitting you with that so I'm going to throw a fireball at you. Yeah, then you go well make a deck save instead, you go well you're all in the AOE so here's, you know, 66 damage plus whatever else.
It's gonna be fucking like you've only you've only scratched the surface. Yeah, we're getting hit for like fucking sixes and shit like that.
You've literally fought four goblins and four humans. Yeah, and one motherfucker. One it all killed them all took them all out.
Yeah, he's going, he's going soft on us. Yeah, inevitable. Yeah, but you have to though because it, the story could, you can't just go right in the deep end because then we'd all just get pissed off because we've all fucking died straight away.
I'll admit that the book does say that if you do knock people out like if you do kill everyone in that first bit you just knock them out. Yeah, which was what I was leading to where you were knocked out and if I'd knocked so lacks out as well, it just would have been what will roll with it from there.
You wake up and fucking being bummed by goblins. You have nothing left.
Both of you have got no goal, not just you. Yeah, fucking faith. It's very fun. I want to, I want to get a mini of fucking through him through him through him. I can't believe I fucking named it wrong.
You know, I've made that character three times and every single time I think the first one I said I sent Ash a picture of the sent me a photo. Did I send you a photo up, but maybe I put it in the fucking.
I think that I put it in the web of spoons thing.
So my magic mountain manager with the fucking magic room.
What kind of tables are fucking.
It was, it was true him or was it brewing brew it is brewing on. Wow. Fucking hell. He's already downed one magic.
So keep it then. It's fucking. It's not quite as busy as brother. This is brother. It's a brother because at the end of the day, what what I've made.
So for the people listening through him is a, a hill dwarf that has a big ginger mohawk big ginger mohawk big fucking bushy beard talking huge and then glowing orange eyes.
Very dirty and fucking hill dwarf is dwarf is fucking covered in shit like that. And that any what was he four and a half foot four and a half foot and weighs 256 pounds.
Big, big boy, big heavy boy right.
Whereas can't hit nothing can't hit fuck all and can't take fuck all but he's very him is early doors. Brewing is a on. Wow. Because what I made was a dark iron dwarf from well, which they do have that they have fiery hair and glowing fucking eyes and shit like that.
And their beards like you can you can change the color of them but predominantly you have a set like a ginger beard but the ends are all on fire and shit. So that it fitted that narrative quite well and they're they're they're they're black like they're they're they're dark dwarfs.
The one I've made now which is actually brewing is a standard dwarf and they're they're very like you know you can get them pale or you can get them tan but they also they're their features are slightly different, but they have a proper mohawk the dark iron didn't have a
this one has a proper proper mohawk and you can put like body paint on and shit like that. So yeah, it can be the cousin because it's slightly different. Plus this is this is a tank and not fucking if it if it was in in well terms of this was a barbarian it'd be a fury warrior which they they specialize in using two two handed weapons and just fucking slashing and dashing with rage and shit like that.
Look, well it's not D&D all right so it's a mixture. They all fucking influence each other. Pretty much. It's all I'm surprised. I was literally about to say I'm surprised there's not a game that's centered around D&D.
What the one we played at the weekend.
It's the accident D&D.
I don't think I could do the role of being a DM. I feel like there's too. There's far too much involvement. Because I think you really notice if you had a if you had a shit. DM are you saying I wasn't. No, no, I don't think so. Obviously I got nothing to go on so you might have been the worst DM that's ever fucking been
produced. I've got nothing to base it off of. So it's don't compare me to Matt Moses. I might as well just lay down and die now. It's it's very if what it felt like for me as a brand new person was it was very easy to understand and it was very fluid.
So there was no point where it I didn't feel that comfortable in in in playing it because it feels like to me that the DM does most of the leg work. Oh yeah. At the end of the day I'm just trying to figure out what you've given me the parameters of where we are.
I'll figure out what I want to do in this but you tell me what to fucking do with certain interactions. If I want to go in a bar and fucking smack the barmaid about you've got to fucking tell me to roll whatever and I've got to hit a certain target and essentially it's a it's a symbiotic.
We're we're a Portuguese man of war basically symbiotic relationship but you're the fucking the captain of the ship. I'm just the fucking yeah I've got me I'm not here you're the shepherd to everyone's enjoyment in some respects but at the same time you're not it's not everything isn't on you because it goes back to the give and take if I there's no point you sitting there and doing everything because at the end of the day what I'm I've been in playing with myself.
Yeah, it was an awkward one for a little bit awkward to start for me because it was the concern that you guys were going to go out this is a bit crap. I'm not I'm not going to commit so much to this but then it was refreshing that that everyone did sort of stick in and get my not get on with it because that's not really the right thing but we delved into it you delved into it and we're open to the you know the exchange of it.
I think that you know I can almost now that seeing the first the first episode that we that we this first session that we've done now is that I can kind of base where we go going forward and I can put a little bit more almost effort into it or a little bit more not effort but can give it a little bit more zeal than than just oh yeah this is a weird fucking dice game with with fantasy.
Yeah, I would I would really like to set something else up and continue that campaign because it's it's it's a very refreshing pace of playing a game because it's not it's not a board game but it's not a fucking video game at the same time you're in a weird you're in a weird in between where you're where you're having to to use your imagination
what it what it makes me want to do is fucking play boulders gate because it's like if I can get to grips with this then it's the same fucking principle borders gate does it does help because it will it will start to explain things a little bit in a more engaging way than me just reading like when I said oh these are the things you can do and I'm just reading essentially my book and you go and well what does that mean my one is is I'm I'm naturally I like open world games but the same time I like a linear play style I don't want to have to think too much.
I don't want to have to think too much because it it doesn't I got this thing where I know I'm not stupid however I think I am stupid you know I mean so it's almost like I want someone to hold my hand but I also know I'm very capable of someone not fucking holding my hand in that guide and that same as I'm so drawn to being a tank in wow I'm playing that class however I've never done it properly because I'm too scared of being in charge of something like a raid even though I know I'm
more than capable of doing it I'm just scared to do it and I feel like that's the that's almost the same when it comes to playing video games in that yeah obviously I'm fine with fucking open world games it's not like I see an open world game I can't do it.
There's a lot to be overwhelmed but with something like boulders gate I'm being told as the player you can do whatever you want do whatever you want and as I said in the past that's there's too much creativity for me same with like building games and stuff like that survival when you're building shit you're telling me enshrouded a building mechanics as intuitive as that and it's like I can't do that because you're you're you're giving me too much freedom this isn't linear enough I need you to tell me what to do so I can figure out what to do.
You can tell me what to do so I can figure this out and I think that playing something like D&D it it will get me out of that because it's it's very enjoyable and at the same time it's like you're you're being you're being given that freedom but there's a physical aspect there that's keeping you in in some form of check i.e. you as the DM you're
you've got there's there's consequences for you could you want to do you can do whatever you want mate but if you do this wrong I'm going to kill you yeah and then send you straight back to where you started and we go again and that that that's that you can explain your that's that interaction where running off on the trail and shouting going yeah how far can I travel as far as you want well alright I'm going to scream in the wilderness okay I'm going to the night by the way yeah I'm going to kill going where's something like something on boulders gate
although yes you do have that and you got the narrator and all that shit it's not as hold your handy it's just it was just it's just a nice introductory experience into it I feel like if if we continue to play D&D then I will I will get more affluent in it and I can see me delving back into boulders gate with a different outlook because obviously when I first played it I'd never touch anything like in my life so you're you're coming from games that don't hold your hand
but at the same time have a don't leave it as much up to the fucking player feel like you in some respects there is an overestimation overestimation of kind of overestimation overestimation of it's like your bloody what was it you couldn't pronounce
I can't remember but yeah overestimation of like borders gate is a big game and it has a lot of choices but truthfully if you can play like board game D&D not board game but you can play actual D&D you'll realize there's a lot more freedom in that than there is in borders gate borders gate is scripted there's there are you know dozens and dozens of options but ultimately it's a video game as far as a video game can go
video game can create there's a limit free choice yeah you know essentially yeah people will come up in with weird and wonderful and zany and chaotic things in a game but truthfully if you play D&D the only limit is what you come up with.
So truthfully you know borders gate is a good game and there is loads and loads of choices and the worst part about it is it's unfortunate the fact that he's a game because you'll feel like am I doing this wrong.
Yeah, because it's a video game and you've got to get from A to B. You know this is the start this is the finish yeah there's an angle there everything in between, like you can fuck up massively.
But then you realize that that's a game like Ash and you've killed off all the fucking people. It was running in my head but I didn't want to say it.
Kill off all the fucking narrative in the game. Yeah, that essentially if you do something wrong in a video game unless you reload a save you've unfortunately might have fucked your game up, whereas in D&D actual tabletop there is the potential for either the outcome you want the outcome you don't want or something completely
different in between that we as a group are collectively, you know we're doing as a collective story tale experience.
So, you know, borders gate is definitely worth a shot for you even though you weren't originally interested in it and it will give you a better understanding and grasp of the topic and the way that D&D works because it will
especially after seeing everyone play on controller as well. I feel like I just fucking plug a controller into the laptop and crack on because that that click to move bollocks I fucking hated it and even the movement of the camera using WASD to fucking move the camera around.
I'm just used to that. It was so counterintuitive for me. I was like this is horrible. I hate this. I absolutely hate this but then seeing Stefan fucking Ash play with controller and it's like all the movements just like a fucking. You got the Steam Deck.
I do have the Steam Deck. I do have the Steam Deck. No excuses. No, I suppose I technically could.
You may as well try it. Try have another go at it. Yeah. If truthfully you don't vibe with it then you're still going to play. You're still going to have like you know we're still going to carry on with the adventure that we've got so far as long as people actually want to carry on playing it.
Yeah, I suppose you got the added benefit there's only fucking three of us that are actually playing playing and you so it's a much smaller group. It's not as hard to organize as much as you need to sort Ash out.
Yeah. Why are you not here Ash? It's the advancement that we need to fucking. Yeah, it's not difficult. If everyone wants to if everyone is happy for it which was you know everyone seemed happy on. Just for the kebab alone.
Kebab and the chips mum. Fucking hell. Oh tasty little treatsies. Everyone wants to carry on so we'll keep carrying on and then if people don't.
It gets to a point where everyone's bored or whatever it's not it's not that big a deal especially with pre written adventures and truthfully you know there is only so much to go off before either you want to play something else or you know everyone gets better at it gets more comfortable at it and then you move on to bigger and better adventures.
I can't see people getting bored man I feel like Ash is the type where he's going to want to finish that story I'm going to want to finish that story and I think Darryl is going to want to finish it. Like he did his Baldur's Gate.
Is it that it's always that there's there's so much to explore like character wise and you always get the types of people like myself where it's like I want big swords. I want big swords to hit people. I like my armor, I like my weapons.
I like my big heavy armor and I'll just want to hit people with weapons and that's it. I can't I can't I can't deviate from like Asmongold. Just always playing a warrior. I just can't a warrior or a paladin. I can't deviate from either.
I have to be in that melee fucking I don't know why I really don't know why I feel like it's in a world of fantasy where everyone's got like crazy spells and you can fucking you can summon the dead and you can turn people into sheep and you can do all these different fucking things.
I'm like no swords swords and big maces. I'm good with swords. I want to hit people with weapons and that's it. Yeah I don't need magic. I want to kill people with weapons.
There's a simplicity in you know essentially I suppose there's a balance of if you with like fighters and barbarians and paladins and things like that all the all the melee classes is that because your your class is quite limited and quite vanilla is that you need to actually bump yourself up in other aspects.
That you need to be more unique as a character rather than the class. Yeah yeah yeah I know exactly. You can turn around and go well that character is defined by their class which they should be because if you turn around and say you know you're a sorcerer or a wizard or something that you know you're a magic user that is intrinsically a part of you.
But at the end of the day if you turn around and go well the magic is my whole character then you haven't necessarily made a good character.
Yeah yeah if you're if you're solely reliant on the fact that you can send missiles through your hands. Yeah whereas you know there's a lot to be said about and it's a bit of a meme they go oh human fighter. Yeah what would everyone want to be a human fighter. It's like well there's a lot you can do with that truthfully at the end of the day.
You've got you've got a very you've got a very blank slate with something like that. I know exactly what you mean if you if you have a if you have a drow cast or someone like Ash where where he knows that the majority of that character base are dickheads.
And casters are casters they're very intelligent intelligent people and the study of tomes and arcane energy and things like that. They all follow that kind of suit whereas yeah that that bog standard default human humjo blogs with me. Yeah human fighter warrior fucking whatever that is completely blank.
I can wear whatever I want I can fucking use whatever weapon I want I other than using magic itself more or less fucking delve into whatever it is that I want to delve into.
I think that's where it's a weird fantasy of you give you you give most people a game where they can create anything they want a lot of people will just create themselves. Yeah.
That's why I want to make me because they want to see themselves in that fantasy experience it as as you or near enough as close to you as you can get that you can put in that world. Yeah, it's completely it's completely normal I'd say and you know an expectation and you can you know the more you get used to D&D the more you can step away from that as well.
You can you can be happy to do you know all different types of characters that you know you wouldn't have necessarily even thought of like my first one was the one is still my main is a is an elf Ranger which is very you know think oh that's very that's very mainstream.
Yeah, and to as that example of the map like my the main group that I play with we've got three or four different campaigns as to like who can join and who can't and you know we wanted to do this adventure in this and this and that that essentially the first campaign we played we're all very normal races.
Yeah, there's a lot of this dwarves there's there's a couple of humans like the most odd one is that like the devil kin the tiefling. What's the big fucking ogre thing.
So like a weird what when was in game today. Yeah, and we were looking at the minis. Yeah. And there was one in the middle, and it was like a gray fucking horrible ogre thingy. Look, look, you know, in, you know, in Lord of the Rings when they're in the mines of Moria, and they get trapped and that troll, they have a cave troll, it looked like that.
It looked something similar to that it could possibly have just been like an ogre, or it more likely but I can't remember it I know there was some there was one that was a giant. I need to I need to flick through the characters again because I was a lot on there.
Yeah, I want to continue with the room and I want to progress that that that story, but I also want to have another one.
Yeah, if you die again because you've lost your mulligan. Can you do that can you set up another one for if you die can you just pull this one out the frame. I think you as a free member on D&D Beyond which is one of the best.
Very monetized, unfortunately and Hasbro picked it up or Wizards of the Coast picked it up so Hasbro now have it so it's very, you know, bit difficult but I think you as a free member can have up to six characters. Okay, thereabouts and I might do that later then I think you've still got good and your fucking your warlock.
Was it my login. I think how did you have access to all my shit, because, because you've joined my campaigns I can see, or you can just see all of my yeah you've got to essentially. The problem is that it was not really a problem but D&D Beyond essentially where I say it's very monetized is that every new
member has access to the option to buy all of the content. Yeah, literally just like question. So, what does that sign in with. What's the buttons email.
Is that what I signed in with. Yeah, as far as more, but essentially because there's, you know, everyone who logs in has access to buy from the marketplace but what I've done instead, and it's like a thing for our group is that I made the account originally,
I made an account, and I essentially bought everything. Oh, marketplace so I have every well know on every source book every adventure and whatever but because I can then host campaigns.
I don't know how you carry on.
Yeah, but essentially because there's, what was I saying, you can set up X amount of campaigns, and then you can invite people to them. Yeah, because of that.
You've been invited, and there's an aspect in that where I can share all the content from every book that I have access to so you, in theory, you can read the adventure that I'm running, I'm not going to, but you know, that's your choice as a person,
whether you want to do that or not. But from that, it also gives you access to all the races all the classes all the items and all the all the content that comes in those books, then goes into the database that you then access so when you build characters if you're,
if you're a new member and aren't linked to any of my campaigns, you won't be able to see anything apart from the very basic stuff. I don't think I do have a DND beyond account.
I do.
Under used it is your stinky log. I don't know what that means but that's my steam account no you these did player the stinky log, whatever that equates to what capital T capital S capital L.
That is my fucking steam login, the stinky law so actual have his own then when Ash has since had his login.
And he's went a little bit weird because when he first he used his.
I don't know if he logged in with his email or if he logged in with Gmail, and it went a little bit weird but essentially if you want to.
What you can do is that if you want to set up a new account I can unassign, there's no account registered with my fucking steam account apparently I can't figure it out.
I just wanted to fucking technical difficulties have a look and make a character.
Well we're at the end here now.
Fuck these off and then we'll figure this one out and we'll do the patron out on the patron.com for social buttons, give us your money.
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