Ding-dong we're on.
I've pressed it.
He's pressed it.
I'm here.
You're here.
Steph's here.
We're all here.
Roosty's here.
The dog's next to us.
Oh, look at her little fucking little sun bear.
It's been a while since you've been on the podcast.
Long time.
Yeah, you've had a septum sorted out.
So you've been a bit inebriated.
It's not the right word, is it?
That's drunk.
Pre-occupied?
No.
Just busy.
Miserable.
Miserable, yes.
Scabby.
Yeah.
But you're here.
Obviously, Ash was kind of dying on Friday and Saturday.
Hence why we've had to do it later
than our usual programming.
But it's been quite a chill time.
Hmm, I feel like I've missed a lot.
Because you're not caught up in the pod here.
I'm not.
No.
I'm not, sorry.
How many episodes behind you?
Maybe two.
Sorry.
It's not that bad.
You've recently got a new console.
Well, yeah.
Haven't you?
A new old.
A new old console.
Would you care to tell the ladies and gentlemen listening?
Well, it'll probably come as absolutely no surprise.
One, because am I too loud?
No, why do you feel too loud?
I think it's been a long time since I've heard my own voice.
Jesus.
Oh, I'm all shy.
No, I'm also really too hot in this jumper as well.
Yeah, that's fine.
Never mind.
Well, so as we know, I collect consoles
and there was one that I will,
there's several that I'm missing.
There's one that I really wanted
and I've had my eye out for a while.
And it is the, it was rather creatively called
the new 3DS.
Was that its original name?
That is what it's name.
They literally, they brought out the 3DS and the 3DS XL
and then I want to say four years or five years later,
they brought out the new 3DS.
How long ago?
When did that come out?
Do you know the release date for?
For the new?
Yeah, yeah, fuck it.
For the new one.
2015, I think.
And the original was 2011, I want to say.
Because I remember, obviously,
when we had a little chat about it,
I remember the having, I think I had the first 3DS.
And it was-
You'd have been around year 10?
Yeah, and it was horrendous.
Like- Okay.
Not, no, like headache wise.
It was, yeah, it wasn't great.
The 3D effect of it just fucking-
Well, we've spoken about that before, hasn't it?
Neither, like I remember when they did
Lion King 3D in the cinema.
3D movies, can't do it.
One of the worst migraines of my life.
It's grim, absolutely grim.
So, obviously having a quick brief look
at the new 3DS is far better than what it used to be.
Far better.
Yeah, and I think it's primarily down to
they had better facial tracking with the front camera.
It went from trying really hard to get it to stay 3D
to now it's hard to get it to break,
which I'm really impressed with.
It's a very cool gimmick that hasn't been taken up
anywhere else, really.
And actually, you know, so, I have, so, what is it?
So, obviously the backwards compatibility
with Nintendo is quite good.
And what I did notice though, with the original 3DS,
haven't actually tried it with this one,
is that DS games are far sharper on a DS
rather than a 3DS, I found.
Because obviously the screen ratio on the 3DS was wider.
And it just, and whilst they do have,
you know when you watch like an old film,
it's got the black either side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yet it's still, I found clearer on an older one.
You don't see that black anymore, do you?
What?
The lines, the cutout, whatever it's called.
Sometimes you're playing like really old shit.
Yeah, doesn't happen on new shit anymore.
No, this is just like worked out how to fill it,
I suppose, I don't know.
But yeah, and I found that I didn't actually have
that many 3DS games anyway, maybe like eight or nine.
And with my older one, I was always just playing it
with slider all the way down.
Maybe Ocarina of Time was quite, was handed the best.
Was that for the 3D?
Yeah, that handled it quite well, but even so.
I didn't know you could adjust it.
Yes, yeah, the slider on the right-hand side.
But anyway, with this new one, it's, oh God, it's sick.
Like it's actually so, so good.
And what I wanted was an XL.
I wanted a new and I wanted an XL
because it's just obviously the more you get used
to bigger screens, the more you want them.
You put yours against the other 3DS, didn't you?
And the size, it's like twice the size.
Absolutely delicious.
Yeah, and it's so nice.
Because I actually, the reason what kind of spurred it on
was they've announced that they'll be stopping
internet support on the 3DS from now.
Like you won't be able to, not anyone who's left,
really is, but there's business of any internet features
in any of the games on a 3DS.
And I believe the we will be, what's the word?
Scrapped, abandoned.
There's a word I'm looking for, redundant.
Redundant.
Will be redundant.
So, and I just, you know, it just made me like,
for nostalgia's sake, I was like, go on,
have a little look.
And then I actually discovered, obviously,
I don't know, I've probably mentioned it before,
like with the Layton games.
And I found the last one, I want to say.
Cause there is, I think they're bringing out a Layton
on the Switch at some point.
I've seen the, I think I've seen the trailer.
Might have imagined it, dreamed it.
Pretty sure it's coming out.
But the last one, I'd basically, because as you know,
dear listeners, that I'm shit at finishing games.
Well, bugger me, I found one.
I hadn't actually ever even started it.
I have it, and I've never even started it
because I hadn't finished the one prior to it.
Yeah.
So I'm currently finishing that one.
Oh, and it's just so good.
Like it's just, oh.
Professor Layton and the New World of Steam
comes out in 2025 on Nintendo Switch.
Level five has announced.
Fuck me, 2025.
2025 for that one.
Yeah.
For God's sake.
Yeah, that's how it's feeling for a lot of games
at the moment, is fucking 2025.
I saw a trailer on TV for the new Wicked film,
and you think, all right, it's got to the point
where there's a trailer on television, yeah?
November 27th.
You know what I mean?
November 27th.
Don't fucking hype me up.
By all means, give me like a little teaser trailer
that I've done for Moana,
which is actually coincidentally also November 27th.
So, you know, double feature for me.
But yeah, I was just like a bit early.
But.
I suppose we're only in, we're only in Feb, aren't we?
Well, soon to be March, I guess.
Not that, not that.
Oh, I got it with blink of an eye.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But yeah, anyway, I got it from CEX,
which actually, I won it at the best price
considering our conversation yesterday.
Yeah, they're always fucking over.
That sometimes they're a bit, take the piss.
We went for dinner.
We went for dinner yesterday.
And where was it?
It was in Chelmsford.
And figured, well, I mean, for starters,
we booked a place, I won't,
no, I won't bother naming them.
Oh no.
And you know, it might be someone's cup of tea.
It might be someone's cup of tea,
but I booked this restaurant
and it looked really fucking cool.
I'm talking like chicken tenders,
like wings up, all like greasy food,
but like decent greasy food.
Yeah.
And yeah, me and Steph were, we were walking,
we parked up and we headed over
and it's on this quiet street.
And all you can hear is,
nt, nt, nt, nt, nt, nt.
And I was like, where the fuck is that coming from?
We both looked and went, surely not.
And yep, sure enough,
it's this fucking restaurant in the Wydbrook.
Almost completely empty.
Yep.
And we both went,
so we just walked straight past it
and have a quick glance and see.
And then, yeah, we walked past it.
There's maybe like four people in there.
One of them's fucking dancing around
and then a fucking laser show going on as well.
So we both went, no, no, no, we're not.
Yeah.
Canceled that.
Yeah, canceled that reservation.
For some reason, I was really worried
that they were gonna come running out, go,
oh, you're here, you're finally here.
As if they're fucking standing waiting.
Or no, who the fuck we are.
So, yeah, but before that, we did a bit of shopping.
And in like the Chelmsford Center or whatever is a CEX.
And I don't really ever bother going into a CEX,
but we decided, fuck it, let's go in
and have a little gander.
And oh my God.
I know.
When we went to Comic-Con,
I had a cold, so I had no sense of smell whatsoever.
Absolutely none.
And the whole time, Steph, Daryl, Mark,
we was all fucking walking around saying
how badly it smelled.
That was awful.
And I was happy as ever
because I was like, I can't fucking smell anything.
Well, when we stepped into that CEX,
the fucking muskiness in that gaff.
Oh my God.
I've never smelled anything like it.
That gives gamers a awful fucking rep, doesn't it?
It smelled awful.
Talking sweat, BO, mold, cheese.
It was that like proper,
when someone's hair is filthy.
Yeah.
It was that like grease.
It was a grimness.
It was like.
But it was like actually overpowering.
It was too much.
We come out there smelling our clothes.
It was too much.
I'm all, don't get me wrong, we all sweat.
We all smell from time to time.
All right.
Especially gamers.
That shit was embedded in the walls.
I'm telling you, that shit was fucking unbelievable.
And it was all the same type of people in there as well.
Yeah.
They were all a bit fucking.
Yeah, it was nuts.
Bit creepers.
It was great.
It was a very quick visit.
We didn't even do a lap of the shop.
We literally walked in, walked to the front
and they went, nope.
See you later.
Like a flight kick, do you know what I mean?
See you fucking later.
The selling PS5s for, what was it?
450 quid or some shit like that.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
But yeah, so that's where you got your.
Yeah, and what I will say is if anyone has had one
or has ever sold one or whatever
and thought that they wiped it clean.
Oh yeah. There is a quite seriously bad fault there.
Yeah.
In that if you ever took any pictures
or video on your 3DS consoles,
it does not get wiped when you factory reset it.
Yep.
As I rather cheerily found out
when I was pissing about with it
and I opened up the camera to find
a photograph just taken five days before I received it
of the geezer in CEX who tested the camera
by taking selfies practically up his nose
and off the shop.
And then going further back, I think it was like 2016,
pictures of a rather lovely young couple
who had taken some selfies on it.
And obviously I'm assuming it was the original owner.
But yeah, so just.
All PG mind you.
Steph's making it sound like there was fucking porn on this.
It was all PG.
It's just very.
It was very sweet.
It's very odd.
Very strange.
And what floor?
What floor that doesn't wipe the card?
Yeah, I find that crazy.
Because I suppose the card's separate maybe.
It's obviously, yeah, I don't know.
System and the card must run separately.
You can delete pictures on it.
Obviously it writes the pictures to the card.
Have you deleted them?
No.
No fucking way.
That's the greatest thing ever.
I was cheering me up on a rainy day.
Just look at that guy from CEX
who Meg actually said looked like the male version of me,
which you know, you can take your word.
Great.
Yeah, thanks mate.
Great.
Oh yeah, but that was great fun.
But it was good.
And I mean, there's.
Because this is a killer, I think.
The stuff that it just doesn't depreciate.
Like I remember when I said to you
how much do you think it was?
And you were like, oh, I don't know.
80 quid?
No, mate.
Like it really is.
And I was saying to my mum,
because my mum likes Leighton as well.
And I was like, oh, you know what?
I'll get her, it'll be cute.
I'll get her a copy of this last game
that neither of us have ever done.
Mate, they go for like fucking 60 to 80 quid.
At the very, very least 35.
That game's like, I don't know, 10 years old.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
I don't know why.
I mean, Breath of the Wild still costs the same
as it ever did.
Isn't that mad?
Yeah.
Is that, that's just Nintendo all around, isn't it?
It's not like it's just through the store on Amazon.
Yeah, it is pretty much all around.
I mean, but then as well, I think the shit
that you see on Vinted now, it's mad.
It's shit that you binned.
No one could know.
You couldn't give it away.
And now it's worth loads.
Pokemon cards.
I mean, I know they retained a certain amount of value,
but even shit like clothes and games
that you just never would think.
What was the books that we were looking at?
Oh no, it was the fucking, it was the, was it, oh, a sale.
It was when we went into HMV, wasn't it?
The Friends box set.
Oh yeah, that's 70 quid.
It was fucking 60 or quid and the Frasier box set
and shit like that.
What the fuck, what the fuck is, how?
And that's when I said to you, obviously it's that,
that digital era where people like to have something physical.
Where you used to get everything physical
and digital was the niche.
Now it's the other way around and everyone is-
Vinyls, 50 quid.
Yeah, everyone's with the digital age
and how it's way more convenient,
but people like physical games.
If I think, if for me, if the PS5,
like if the console of that sense, Xbox, PlayStation,
whatever, if the physical copies still downloaded faster
than digital, then I'd still be all over it,
but they don't anymore.
The physical copies are just a key to download the content.
It used to be, it was like, say you had a game
tied to the disc as well.
You have to have the disc in to play it, which sucks.
So it was like a game where it was like 60 gig.
It would be like 20 of it's on the fucking disc
and then the other 40 you download.
And then if you're doing digital, it's the whole 60.
Whereas now it's literally, like you say,
the disc is the key for the PlayStation to register.
Go, yep, they do own this game.
Here you go, download it, which is pointless.
And even between the DS and the Switch,
with the DS, the game is stored,
like your progress is stored on the cartridge.
Whereas with the Switch, I'm like 99% sure,
that the data is saved on the Switch, not the cartridge.
Yeah, because the PlayStation, it's saved onto the console
and then into the cloud as well.
And then when you load the game up,
unless you've set it to prioritize something,
I believe it prefers the cloud over the console
because every now and then it has a conflict.
And it like this morning when I went on Helldivers,
it said it can't pull the save data.
So I had to manually choose which system to pull it from.
I have that with the Switch, yeah.
Which is odd.
Like I can't, I don't necessarily want to
have my Switches be clones of each other.
Like how I've done it at the moment
is anything new I've got, I've put on the new one.
But then like Animal Crossing, it is not worth it to me
to even attempt to port any of that data
that is staying firmly on my original Switch
because if I lose that,
there's just no point in carrying on in my life.
Sadness.
It was already hard enough with fucking Tears of the Kingdom.
Get fucking, getting that pulled over, fuck me.
That was crazy, wasn't it?
I just started again.
Yeah, no, yeah.
But yeah, so, and that's something that,
it's fairly easy though.
Like when, so say like something like Dreamlike Valley
and I'll play it on either,
and it is as simple as it loads up and it goes, which one?
And it's got the time and it's got the date
and it's got the thing and it just goes,
well, there you go then.
So you know exactly which one.
There's no confusion there.
I feel like it's got quite a sort of good system.
We just want our physical shit back.
It's funny, isn't it?
I want my fucking physical stuff back.
I've said it so many times.
If I, there's that, that fucking Ragnarok edition,
what was that?
Like 250 odd quid, some shit like that.
That was like a hundred for that Mirage, 160,
whatever the fuck it was.
That one doesn't come with a fucking disc,
but that one did.
No, it didn't.
Yeah, it did.
No, it didn't.
Yes, it did.
No, it didn't.
It did.
No, it didn't.
It's a code.
That came with a disc.
No, it was a code.
Was that a code?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
After this pod would have to go upstairs now.
I swear that came with the actual disc
because I remember saying,
I remember saying maybe to Mark about it,
saying it actually comes with the fucking game as well.
Or was it, I thought it come with the game and it did.
But when I opened it, the disc weren't in there.
It was a fucking code.
I seem to remember, didn't I open it?
I opened it so I completely didn't download it for you.
And I swear it was just, it was just a code.
Yeah, I think, yeah, maybe you're right.
Cause I think you said that there is a case,
but there's, it's just a code in the case.
Yeah, because.
Both of them are steel books.
And if you, like in the past when I've had a steel book,
it would be like the normal case
and then an empty steel book.
So you could put the disc in it.
And like, I had that with Tears of the Kingdom.
I got an empty steel book plus the usual thing.
How's about stop giving me steel books
and just give me a slab.
Can I ask a question, right?
Who actually, who actually really wants a steel book?
Apparently Mark sold his on eBay for like 50 or quid.
Yeah, but.
Apparently some people want them.
But like, why?
I've never.
It's a collector's thing.
They're very cool.
Yeah.
But you know, like, it pisses me off
because it's always comes empty.
Even when you've got, because put it this way.
They're never used to.
No, but they know.
They're never fucking used to.
But the thing is though, I have so many
where I have the case that you would pick up
like the normal standard case and the steel book.
So it's like, okay.
So one of them is always empty.
What am I gonna do here?
I'm gonna put the fucking disk in there
and then have an obsolete case.
Like what?
Yeah, what is the point of the case?
This is what I'm saying.
Fuck off the steel books.
Give me a displayable slab of the cover
of what that steel book is.
Give me the artwork of like a thin sheet of metal
where I can display that.
Yeah.
Give me that instead.
Because you're right.
The steel books.
Who the fuck you, who?
Who the fuck?
Unless you display them like front on
because if from memory, the ones I have,
they don't really got any, they never have words on.
It's not like you could put it
in like a cute little bookcase.
Yeah, the steel books usually have less art on them.
Yeah.
It's just they're metal, but they're cool.
I like steel books.
Don't get me wrong.
I like them, but the necessity for them.
But do you know what I mean?
Like who asked for them?
Yeah, it just-
Who asked for them?
They just appeared one day.
Ooh, look at these.
It just seems like an add on now
for a collector's edition and it comes with steel books.
Yeah, but no one cares.
The steel books are still both in them
because I've got nothing to put them in.
I've got nothing to put in them.
What am I gonna do?
Where, I don't display the games anymore anyway.
You've kind of lost that with everything going digital.
You don't display the only thing,
the one that I can really get with,
with everything becoming digital is PC.
Everything being digital on that
because it was just a pain in the ass loading disks up.
We said that multiple disks.
Well, and I think it's something that
that's a bit like how they did it
with headphone jacks and whatever.
It was, we were all forced into it.
And I think it's the same with disks.
You know, you'd get a new laptop.
What do you mean you want a disk drive?
No, sorry.
And so then what you then end up with
without even realizing it,
you don't all of a sudden,
you don't own anything that can actually play a disk.
World of Warcraft was downloaded through disks.
The first couple of expansions for me,
I think Mr. Pandaria was the last one.
That was like a physical.
And then I think, and it's like a transition.
You almost don't know that you're on
in the sense that like when I would first get CDs,
you would put it into a CD player or a little Walkman thing.
And then it was, oh yeah, you'd get the CD
to put it in your computer, to rip it to iTunes,
to have it on your iPod.
And then even that got phased out,
mainly because we all turned to piracy in our teens.
You know, and then again.
YouTube converter.
Yeah.
Loved it.
And then, you know, Spotify comes in
and at first it was clunky.
And then all of a sudden,
I would never fucking buy an app.
Like the only time I've ever bought an album
in the last, like, I don't know,
maybe seven or eight years
would be if it's part of some set.
Where you get shit with it. iTunes isn't a thing anymore,
is it? It is, yeah.
Well, they've also created Apple Music,
which is Apple's version of Spotify, Deezer,
fucking Amazon Music, whatever.
We're on that.
This podcast is on that.
What, everyone?
All of them?
On, it's on Apple.
Is it? It is.
Oh, I'm not actually subscribed to it.
But I think there's a separate,
I think there's Apple Music and Apple podcasts.
Oh, hang on.
Wait, it's not a type in podcast.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, shall I see if it's on there?
It should be on there.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I saved it on there.
Yeah, there you go.
It is, yeah.
We were meant to be on Deezer,
but for some reason it wouldn't authenticate properly.
So, and this was in the early days of the podcast,
and I was like, fuck it, I can't be asked
how many people are actually listening through Deezer.
But-
A lot, I think.
Yeah, I might upload it onto there
and have another crack at it,
because now I know way more than I did
when I first started uploading fucking podcasts.
But yeah, it's just, get rid of steel books,
give me something else.
Give me something else.
Also, stop giving me fucking maps.
I don't want maps.
We could have a wall of maps.
I'll tell you what was a,
the map in that, in Mirage, is decent,
because it's textured paper.
It's a different kind.
If you're gonna give me a map, give me an actual map map.
Yeah, give me a quality map.
Don't give me a poster, because it's a poster.
Yeah, and like-
I don't want that.
The Skyrim map that I got,
that's on like parchment paper.
That's quite nice.
And that was on my wall for a long, long time.
Well, we were gonna put them all together, weren't we?
Yeah, I feel like that would be quite sick.
And we're moving to our place, yeah.
Have a wall where it's all the-
I'd have to like gently iron them.
Yeah, to get the crease out.
And I will potentially also maybe frame them
or something like that.
Yeah, framing would be, yeah,
that's what I meant, frame them up and put them,
that would be a bit of a ball ache
because of the dimensions,
but I think they could look quite cool
if you have different sized frames
rather than it being uniform.
Do you know what I always wanted to do?
HMV in Lakeside used to have it.
And what they'd done was got like posters,
the normal, you know, the ones you get
in like the flippy thing when you flip through it,
but they'd actually wallpaper them onto the wall.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah.
Oh, they wallpapered the posters on.
Yeah.
That's very cool.
It was really cool.
But then we'd probably want to change it
and then get really mad that we ever.
We're gonna have to, yeah.
And that's the thing, one more thing about box sets
is that I would have to think very, very carefully
if I was ever gonna buy another one
because the amount of,
like I know I did it with Tears of the Kingdom
because I was overcome with emotion,
but the reality of them is,
where the fuck do you actually put them?
Like being honest,
where the fuck are we gonna put all this stuff?
We have so many between us.
This is.
And nowhere to put it.
I'll tell you what it is.
It is a, it's a, I don't want to lose the box-ism
because there is a, they are boxes within boxes.
The collection boxes are in those boxes.
However, I like the boxes
and we've all made the mistake of getting something new,
throwing the box away,
and then either when we come to sell something
or even if we're not selling that,
you find out the box is worth a little bit of dough.
So you then sell the box.
I sold my Switch box.
And now I kind of wish I had it.
So what it is, is you think, right, okay.
Well, what I, yeah, what I could do is
I could take the collector's editions out of their boxes
and then take everything out of the box itself
and then set it all up
because obviously they've got so many different things.
There's some really cool shit in that Ragnarok one,
the carved dolls and the fucking, the D&D dice
and shit like that.
And the same with the Mirage stuff,
the broach and all of that.
It'd be really cool to set all that stuff up,
especially in like a, in a podcast sense.
If we ever come to the point where we're filming
this podcast, visually that,
those little trinkets and stuff look really fucking cool,
but you're still left with a box.
In fact, two boxes.
Because you're probably stack it around the box
that it's in, but then you've got the outer packaging.
Maybe you just fold it down
because that one's ripped anyway.
Yeah, and there's such a fine line between having a display
and it just looking like a fucking bric-a-brac.
You know what I mean?
Looking like a heap of shit on the side.
Yeah, because this is also, because they're collectors.
I mean, this one's got fucking tape on it
to hold it together.
But it's like, because it's collectors,
you can't get these boxes anymore.
These boxes don't exist anymore.
And that is the problem because I know for a fact,
I'm never going to sell any of them.
I have zero interest because they are worth some money.
But to me, if I could sell that for 250 quid
and that for 250 quid, it's not worth it to me
to be able to do that because in my head,
I think I could just do a little bit of overtime
or do whatever I can save that money better
than having to sell my beloved collector's editions.
So it's like, I don't need the outer boxes,
but they also fuck you up because they're different
to the inside boxes, different art style.
There's nothing we can do.
We're going to have to flat pack them
and put them under the bed.
This is it.
I have, I have flat packed some,
but I can't think what they are.
But there's also ones that you can't fucking flat pack.
Like Jacob and Evie and the Arno and Elise,
they obviously, they have their nice boxes
that also join up like the figurines do,
but inside them is the plastic that holds the figure.
So you can't get rid of that
because then it's not fucking work.
So they're just in-
And you can't take the plastic out
because you can't stack the plastic individually.
Exactly, exactly.
So it's a cunt.
The square footage of those boxes is actually nuts.
It's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah.
And again, let's just fucking hope we find somewhere
with a loft because we're going to need it.
I feel like what we can eventually do is set them all up
and then the boxes themselves, maybe stack them somewhere.
I feel like we can probably do something with them.
I also think that we're of a mind
where you're the artistic one and I'm the sacrificial one.
So I, you could come up with a brilliant idea
on how you could display these boxes,
but at the same time,
you would ruin the integrity of the boxes.
And I would be the one that would be prepared
to not think and act and then think after,
i.e. ripping the boxes apart
to make a cool bit of artwork.
Do you know what?
And then think of the consequences after it.
Yeah.
I have, so that, the Mirage box-
I don't want to rip these.
No, it's roughly the same size as my Black Flag one.
Yeah, yeah.
And I got rid of, and this is a harsh lesson I learned,
with Xbox 360 editions,
often they would have the Xbox 360 thing around the top
and it was an outer sleeve around,
it's a better quality box than that,
it was the Black Flag one.
Anyway, and so I took it off so that it would look more real
because it's like a crate off of a ship.
Yeah.
And it sat downstairs for a couple of months
in the window of a south-facing patio door.
Yeah, and then what colour was it when you returned to it?
Fucking purple, and the sleeve, if I still have it,
which I may do somewhere, but whatever.
And so even that, you could put them next to each other,
but it's just sad, or turn it around,
but actually it's the back.
And actually the Skyrim one that I found in that house,
the box was lovely,
probably the same size as that Ragnarok one,
but it was in a grim shitty house,
so I didn't take it, I just took-
It was in a place where people were wiping their ass
with stones.
Yeah, and there was loads of thrush cream on the window,
but it was a man.
Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
Sorry to him and his thrush issues.
Yeah.
Probably penile, to be honest.
Remember your Jacob Fry was mouldy as fuck
when that rocked up.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Well, and one of your birthday presents.
I was fucking covered in shit as well.
Yeah, it's my birthday on Friday,
and a parcel turned up for Steph,
and I'm at a point of being a Funko collector when I know.
The box.
I know the box inside the box.
I know if it's a Funko pop,
I can tell by the weight if this is a Funko or not.
Unless it's the fucking,
the fucking, what's his name in Monsters Inc,
the snow, the Abominable Snowman.
Yeah.
Remember that fucker's heavy as shit, isn't it?
That Funko pop, remember?
He's holding the fucking the lemon ice.
Yeah.
And then the box itself is really heavy,
like abnormally heavy for a Funko pop.
I think it might be somewhere,
it's in one of those boxes I'll try and dish it out after,
and it's abnormally heavy to the point where it's like,
I wanna cut this fucker open
and find out why this is so heavy
because it's just not right.
But yeah, anyway, Steph got me a Funko pop,
and obviously I weren't gonna look,
but you wanted to double check the integrity.
Absolutely fucked.
I mean, it was a Draga from God of War,
and a very cool Funko pop, but it had like,
Oh, fuck knows.
Like a booger in the middle,
inside of it, and then the box was complete.
Have they got back to you at all?
No.
So the pictures on the listing,
which again, I suppose, is it my bad?
I don't know.
There were only two pictures, it was the front and the back.
No, it was sold to you as new, wasn't it?
It was sold as new, yeah.
Yeah, exactly, so it's not your fucking fault.
And it did not look bad at all with the pictures.
The box is fucked.
And yeah, it was really rank,
but I looked and they've got like,
it was like 98% positive feedback,
but I went on and looked at the-
We're 97 now.
Yeah, I looked at the negative,
and literally it was, this isn't new.
They ignored me when I got in touch and blah, blah, blah.
So I was like, ah, okay.
And it's going back, it was called like,
when you see them in the like a shop,
where the name is a shop,
but then when I did, I instantly just started a return.
I'm not gonna fuck about being like, I wanna keep it.
You think it's like, at the end of the day,
I don't fucking want it, it's shit.
And it's just going back to some woman in like Stoke-on-Trent.
So it's obviously, yeah, however, whatever.
You live and you learn, don't you?
Well, at least it's protected by eBay,
and they're quite good with stuff like that.
Hopefully, yeah, I mean.
I mean, it was sold to you as new,
and it had like fucking norm marks on the box,
and tears, and dents, and shit like that.
How are you selling that as new?
Like what, what?
It always baffles me,
especially with something like Funko Pops,
because if you're selling Funko Pops of a certain scale,
you know the buyers that you're dealing with.
Well, yeah, it's a collector's market
at the end of the day.
Yeah, so if the box is fucked,
then you're gonna, your buyer is gonna argue.
Yeah.
As anyone would, if I'm buying a Funko Pop,
the box is like fucking 70% of the fucking, I'm not,
unless you're an out of box collector,
which there are quite a few who just don't care
about the boxes themselves.
Well, it's a cheaper way of doing it, isn't it?
Much cheaper, much, much, much cheaper.
You can get some real decent Funko Pops out of the box
for way fucking, you're talking like a third
their actual cost, because they don't have a box.
And ultimately, I think you could,
if you're very careful and a very clean person,
you could, I heard you teetering,
you know, you could have it out of the box,
and then keep the box, put it in the box.
Yeah, I think, yeah.
And like, whilst you, technically it's a bit deceptive,
but ultimately, if it's clean, no one would know,
if you know what I mean?
Like I feel like so many things,
because they're not sealed.
Well, it's like ultimately.
Oh my God, wait, I actually saw a fucking crime at work.
A crime.
Oh, I can't believe I didn't even tell you.
So obviously, as we know, with the Funko Pop Pops,
you can just open them, right?
Yeah, they're not taped down or anything.
Oh my God, at work, they've taped them down
with security tags.
Oh.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
I think putting them through, and I was like, ew.
No.
I know, isn't that awful?
And the other silver ones,
that basically the adhesive's like stronger
than fucking super glue practically.
Yeah, never coming off.
Why?
Or when they put like a sale sticker or something
over the fucking sticker on the front,
and you think, oh, you silly fuckers.
Whoa.
But that is ultimately, these things are fucking,
they're toys, man, they're stupid things.
Like they're nothing special and it's just a sticker.
So to the untrained eye, it is, well, it's just reduced,
so let me put a reduced sticker on it.
Like it's, yeah, it's really not that deep,
but to people that are collectors,
like I'm looking at mine now
and seeing the stickers on the front of them,
and I'm like, yeah, they're nice.
They're everything that makes them special.
Ha ha ha ha.
It annoys me that the Grishnak one's wonky, though.
I was literally just looking at that going,
yeah, it's wonky, but it is what it is.
It's signed.
Yeah.
I think they've signed one to technically secondhand
because they've all been out of the box.
Oh, because they're what, signing flat?
Yeah, because they flatten, most of them,
yeah, they take them out of the box and flatten the box
so they can get a better.
Signature. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Very cool.
That's cool.
I have to make shells for them or something like that.
Yeah, that's the other thing, because the.
I always forget how many are sat in that box as well.
Yeah, yeah, I've slowed right down with the Funko Pops.
Just because there hasn't really been any
that have drawn my attention.
My ADHD of getting all the Lord of the Rings ones
come to a not a swift end because I'm still
looking around every now and then,
but it's just so expensive, man.
It's so much money.
And when you see other people's collections and stuff,
you think, fuck, I don't like that.
That is some serious, serious dough.
And just not prepared to spend that at the moment.
It's just a bit too much for me.
So it slowed right down.
Did you talk about Helldivers last week?
I don't think we did, to be fair.
I don't think we did.
Helldivers is obviously a massive,
massive thing at the moment.
Huge.
It's so funny because me and Mark were talking about
PlayStation exclusives and he was saying how there's like,
fuck all going on this year.
And he's like annoyed by it.
And I was like, oh, I'm on the other end
because there's so much going on for me.
Obviously, he's purely the PlayStation world,
whereas I get to delve into the PC side of it.
So I said between the two, there's fucking loads.
I kept saying like Helldivers,
obviously it's a PlayStation exclusive,
but it's also on PC.
And yeah, it's fucking, it's mental.
Like my whole TikTok is just Helldivers, Helldivers.
It's basically Starship Trooper
and you're killing bugs called Terminids.
And then there's robotic humanoids called automatons.
And it's literally, you are just in this space army
and you're basically defending the super earth
and then also exterminating these two factions, or sorry,
liberating these two factions.
But it's so cool.
So the game itself is about 35 quid, nice and cheap.
And trying to play it solo is quite difficult.
So it's highly recommended to play it with your friends.
Are you, so you only interact with other people,
like human people, if you're playing with them.
Otherwise you're on your own versus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's like a quick play thing where you can like
join other people's games and shit like that.
And basically like what it looks like is imagine,
imagine the map, like a solar system
and you've like got the super earth in the middle.
And then to the right is the Terminids
and then to the left is the automatons.
And they're in sections, like sectors.
And when you hover over them,
it gives you a percentage of how much of it
has been liberated.
So it might say like 29.7, 48% has been liberated.
Within your game only?
No, it's within the whole thing.
So this is the cool bit.
It is essentially like a real life army type thing.
So when you hover over a sector,
it will tell you how many people are currently liberating
that sector.
And when you select a sector, it comes up,
it zooms in and then there's various planets.
And then it will tell you again,
how much percentage has been liberated and blah, blah, blah
and how many people are on those planets.
And when you select one,
it comes up with the missions that are on that planet
and what you can do and the different difficulties.
And basically when you lock it in,
you like warp drive to that system.
And when you're on the deck of your own ship,
you can look out into space
and there's all these other ships,
they're actual people that are currently liberating
that area.
And it's not exact, it's not one-to-one,
but it is representative of the people
that are in that system.
And basically you can see their drop pods.
You can see when people are dropping in.
And you can also see if you look down onto the world
that you're about to drop into,
you can see people calling in,
like the kill streaks that they've got.
So like big red lasers coming down
that where like they'll drop in like an artillery gun
or something like that.
You can see those various things happening
and they are real-term people calling that shit in.
So it very much gives you that,
like I'm part of something bigger type thing.
And yeah, that's like my whole TikToks just filled with like,
like there's this account that I follow
where it gives you like a daily report of what's going on.
And the main thing at the moment,
like the main mission that we have an objective
for everyone is to defend certain places
that we've already liberated in the automaton section.
And it's like TikToks where people like,
there's 250,000 people in the terminated section.
There's only 75,000 in the automaton section.
We was like, we need more troops over there.
Just making it far more serious than it actually is.
But it's just very fun.
And when you're playing, the friendly fire is always turned on.
Can't turn that off and everything will kill everyone.
For example, like earlier,
there's certain objectives and stuff like launching
a nuclear bomb and stuff like that.
And when you're calling your, I call them kill streaks,
but they're called N-grams.
You have to, for me, you have to hold down L1
and then use the D-pad to put in the code.
So it'd be like left, left, down, up, right, down.
That's why I was laughing the other day when Conor was saying,
cause he was trying to get me back, he was like,
I need to do the fucking Konami code
cause he has to type all this shit.
And it's quite a unique way to do that kind of stuff
rather than just having to press one button.
What is funny though, is you can see the disparity
of people who older gamers, where cheat codes
and everything were like that,
to gamers that never had to experience that
because there's a lot of stuff where,
if you have to call in the ship that picks you up
and takes you off the planet,
it's quite a long sequence that you have to type in.
And I've seen so many videos of people just flat out
struggling to do it because they're not used to having
to fucking do it that quickly.
And what I was saying, like down to a basic level,
you can punch people and you can punch people
off of those consoles.
So if they're like standing there typing everything in
and they're fucking it up, I literally saw a video
of a guy for about, I think it was like four attempts
and he kept getting it wrong.
The server guy just run up and they just punched him
off of it and then did it himself.
Here's a video that I put up on TikTok of me,
I think Conor shot something in the ground
that sent up like a gas cloud.
And I retaliated and turned around and shot him in the head
and instantly killed him.
And when I respawned him, obviously you get sent back down
in a drop pod and he just flattened me.
I didn't know you could do that.
It was just a funny little shock.
But yeah, it definitely makes you more hyper aware
of where you're calling in all of your shit
because the amount of times that you'll kill someone
is incredible.
But it's, this is a very fun, fun game.
And I think it's that the fact that it's like every single
player worldwide is all helping contribute to this one goal
makes it so much more, you're far more invested
in playing it.
And it's a very, very, very simple game.
But they are bringing updates to it.
The developers Arrowhead, by the way.
And I think, cause Helldivers one,
obviously I never played it, but obviously lots of people did.
And apparently what they, the same sort of stuff,
what they did is they always make like one faction
extremely difficult compared to the other.
So the Terminids are relatively easy to deal with,
but the Automatons are, as you've seen,
fucking ridiculously hard.
And like I said, our objective at the moment is to defend
certain things from the Automatons.
And they've made it very fucking difficult to the point
where we're just not able as a unit to defend.
And people are basically saying that it's like,
it's like it's done on purpose because when you,
when you lose the battle, eventually that's when they can
start bringing more things into the game,
like big mech suits and shit like that to,
to make it a little bit better.
Big call in at the moment for Xbox users to be allowed
access to the game because they're like,
they're like, get us in and we'll be on the front lines.
I will, I will take over.
We'll, we'll, we'll liberate everything.
So it's like, it's quite cool to see that almost like
console war shit coming to a close because people are on
Xbox are just desperate to play this game and get access to
it, which I feel is quite an easy thing to do,
especially when you've already got it on PC.
Yeah.
So you could very easily upload that to something like
game paths, which I would really like to see not right now,
because I feel like if you had all of Xbox having access to
it, shit would just get liberated far too quickly.
They'd have to up, scale up something.
What's the, how does it work with regards to completion?
Like, is it the sort of thing that's cyclical?
So it's 29% now, but then things become overrun again,
and you have to liberate the same areas like,
or is it once it's liberated, it's completely liberated.
Cause obviously then you just reach 100%.
I think, I think like, so the stuff that we're defending,
we're defending planets that have all that have been
liberated and they're now being re-attacked.
So we're having to now defend those areas.
So it's just like a,
Yeah. But the, the map it's set off, like I say,
you've got the super off in the middle and then the term
leads into the automotons,
but there's a sector up top and a sector down below that is
blank. So there's obviously going to be more factions that
are coming and then more shit going on. So yeah,
I think it's just a very,
if I, if I had paid 60 quid for it,
I probably wouldn't be that happy about it.
But the fact that I've only paid 35 quid for it,
and there's all different armors and guns and shit like
that. And it is a very fun, easy game to jump on.
I'm happy with it. I mean,
I know I got Brandon to buy it and try it.
I think he played it for about five minutes and went,
no, it's not for me. And then like refunded it,
which I can kind of understand because I played it solo the
other day and I was like, this is horrible.
I was like, I hate this.
And then I played with Connor and his mate Dan,
and it was like such a better experience because there was
just more of us dealing with, with more shit.
But it's just nice to have a,
have a co-op game that's just like purely co-op.
Cause they, there was some calling for PVP to be introduced,
but Arrowhead come out themselves and said, absolutely not.
We are not introducing PVP. This isn't like, it's not,
this is not the game for PVP, which I 100% agree with.
I think a PVP ruins it for a lot of people.
When you've already got a game that's got friendly fire
switched on, just shoot your mate in the head a couple of
times, get that itch away from you and then crack on.
That's good. I'm liking it.
I'm enjoying it.
I think it's good to have something that's sort of a bit
refreshing and a bit different to what, you know,
lately there has been a lot of where it's just a different
game in rather the same game in a different skin.
Yeah. It, it, it definitely feeds into that male,
let me sacrifice myself for a greater cause type thing.
In a weird, in a weird sort of way.
It's like, get away. I'll save you type, type bollocks,
just fighting bugs on a planet.
You know what I mean?
With an LMG, like it's nothing,
it's nothing crazy or flame for or some other weird shit.
It's just scratching some kind of weird male itch.
Not saying the women can't fucking play and aren't playing
it, but for some reason it's, it's some weird,
weird army thing.
I don't get it, but it's a very fun game.
But talking of fresh and different, playing Final Fantasy
online at the moment for the second time, third time,
third or second time, something like that.
Quite enjoying it because Ash canceled his wow sub
and started playing Final Fantasy,
but not because he didn't like wow,
but because Final Fantasy is obviously like ESO on console.
So your controller setup is already designed for it.
Even when I play it on here,
the, when you make a new character,
the first thing it says is are you playing keyboard
and mouse or controller?
The setup is already native. It's already there.
But the difference between ESO and Final Fantasy
is that it's cross play.
So he's able to play with me and vice versa.
And it's much more comfortable for him
to be able to play it.
And when you go side by side with World of Warcraft
and Final Fantasy online,
they are direct like competitors almost.
They, for a time, Final Fantasy topped World of Warcraft.
Overall, World of Warcraft is gargantuan.
But Final Fantasy, I know for a fact
that has a nicer community,
there are certain aspects in the game that I don't like,
and there are certain aspects of the game that I do like.
For example, in wow, if you make a death knight,
if you then wanna play a mage,
you gotta make a new character.
You then wanna play a warrior,
you gotta make a new character and so on and so on.
With Final Fantasy,
you don't have to make another character.
You can simply unlock that new class
and then all you have to do is equip the weapon
that that class would use.
Which then, so for example,
at the moment I'm playing a pugilist,
which is like a monk type.
And I want to go and play a warrior.
So after this or whatever, I'm gonna go and unlock that.
And all I have to do is take off my fist weapons
and equip a fucking two-handed axe and then boom,
I've switched over to a warrior class.
And that's the same with the professions as well.
World of Warcraft, you're only allowed two.
So herbalism and engineering.
On Final Fantasy, you can have them all.
It's the same premise.
Plus, well like you said,
when you was looking over my shoulder,
you think the graphics are much better on Final Fantasy.
Yeah, they're more my cup of tea.
Yeah, the art style from Final Fantasy and wow
is completely different,
but the actual visual graphics of Final Fantasy
are better than World of Warcraft.
Also Final Fantasy,
it runs way better on the laptop than it does.
It's weird, on the laptop, it runs a lot hotter.
So obviously this runs hot anyway.
It's what they do.
So it caps out for me at about 86 degrees
is where it will hold.
It will never get any hotter than that.
So it's already very warm,
but that's a stable warm.
It's designed to be ran at that temperature.
So when I'm playing Final Fantasy,
I'm getting like 160 odd frames per second
on everything max,
even if there's loads of shit going on,
but it's running at 86 degrees on wow.
I'm pushing maybe like 70 frames
if it's all kicking off and everything's like going to shit,
but it sits at like 70 degrees.
So I can't work out why that is,
but there's been like no running issues
or anything like that.
But it just feels quite fun and new.
It's a subscription based game,
much like World of Warcraft is,
but like I said to you the other day,
I've already paid my year sub for wow,
like last month or the month before.
So I'm not paying a monthly sub for that.
And I had to resub in order to gain access to my account.
And it's not like wow,
where you can just log into your account and have a look.
You have to, the whole account side
of Final Fantasy is dog shit.
It's fucking awful.
Square Enix, whatever they do.
The fact, even something down to basic,
like it can't just remember your login details.
You have to type your password in every single time
you want to do it,
but then you've got the different launches.
So I launched mine through Steam,
but you can launch yours directly
through the fucking Final Fantasy thing.
There's a different website called Mogstation
where you can access your accounts and shit.
It's not just done through fucking,
there's so much shit.
You've seen me fucking experiencing it before
trying to reset passwords and shit like that
just to log into the fucker.
It's a fucking nightmare.
But once you're in, you're in and it's fine.
So yeah, for now I'm enjoying it.
I think it definitely helps having MMO experience.
It's definitely helping Ash.
We were chatting yesterday.
He kind of like me,
he doesn't really know what's going on with the story,
but he knows what he's doing, if that makes sense.
Yeah, format is familiar.
What we, I think the max level is 90.
And I read that like one to 50.
Don't worry about it.
Just get to fucking level 50.
Because apparently it's where that's like the base game.
It's quite clunky and a bit boring and mundane.
And apparently once you hit that first expansion,
you can really see where they start
to develop themselves as a game.
And take note and start adding different things
and the graphics and shit like that.
So I'm not rushing it.
I'm just taking my time with it
and just slowly, slowly sifting through it.
Leveling that, killing bugs there, reading books there,
watching Vikings.
Like a...
Pools at your heartstrings.
So it's decent for me.
A bit in the sand.
I love the water.
That's what I got.
I was holding it in.
I knew you was crying.
Yeah, you know when I went, oh, it's really cool.
Is that what you went?
No, that's what I was like.
I was like, try and keep it together.
Vikings is incredible, man.
It's so good.
I can't believe I watched it up to that certain point
and then just stopped.
When there's all this shit that was going on.
It's so good.
Better than last kingdom?
Or you can't make your mind up yet.
We're on season six, by the way, of Vikings.
We're on the last season and it splits into two
and I think we're still on the first half.
I think as much as it's the similar topic,
I almost don't want to compare them.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because...
Yeah, I suppose they're...
They don't...
It's like they do and they don't cross over.
I think that it's such a completely different vibe.
Vikings is so much more Viking orientated.
Yeah, it's a lot more spiritual, a lot more conceptual.
But for the first three seasons, it wasn't.
It was very Anglo-Saxon Viking mixture.
There's been points when you're watching Vikings
where it's some like, is this real or is this in their head?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How much is it tipping into...
Like the seer and being able to fucking tell people's fate.
Is that real or what's going on there?
That's... There's an example of that today.
People go to psychics and mediums and stuff like that.
I mean, shit, even like fucking psychic Sally on telly.
And she's there and I've got someone here
whose ashes are in a cupboard.
And someone goes, oh my God,
my granddad's ashes are in a cupboard.
Yes, get him out of the cupboard.
And it's like, how does she know?
Get him out of the cupboard now.
But that is the one.
And I always remember it because she was like,
he's telling me he's trapped and he wants to see the sunlight
and don't be afraid and all that shit.
And then, yeah, she's like, oh my God, I was.
I'm actually creeped out by them
and I put them in the cupboard.
And is it coincidence or is it...
And I remember my mom went with a friend
and her friend really, really didn't believe it.
And she was like, I know over 200 dead people
and not one of them popped out to me.
And mom was like, well, what with that attitude?
Maybe they didn't want to speak to you.
And stuff like that.
But yeah, Vikings, I think it's that
you kind of can't help but be like, oh my God, wow.
Even without, I mean, spoiling it for people,
but the fate between Vitsuk and Lagertha,
it's something that they were both told in various ways.
And it wasn't clear to either of them how it would play out.
But actually, all of a sudden it did.
And it's crazy.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't say which one I prefer really,
but they're both sick.
I think there's...
They just run on separate stories,
but so close together.
It's almost like the same topic,
but a really different approach.
Last Kingdoms, realistically,
it's all about Uhtred wanting Bebban Burr back.
That is the main goal.
And he just keeps getting locked down
with all this bullshit whilst trying to...
He's basically like, he started from one point,
he's got the main quest.
He can see fucking Bebban Burr and his quest location
at the end, but every single time he walks towards it,
side quest, side quest, side quest.
Like compulsory side missions.
Side quest, side quest.
Just being fucked.
But then you think with Ragnar being torn
between Norse mythology and Christianity,
and whereas Uhtred was more obligated
as far as he didn't really...
The baptisms and shit, that was more to get things done.
Whereas I think with Ragnar, he was genuinely torn.
But you also have that, I love the parallel
of Ragnar and Uba and how well they've made Uba seem like.
I think they've done really well
with making almost every son have a part of Ragnar,
but I just feel like Uba, they've really made him
as close to Ragnar as possible,
which I really enjoy.
I think it's definitely gonna be sad
when we finished with it, because it's like,
oh, because what we're doing is like we binged it,
and then we stopped watching it for a while.
And then every couple of days,
we'll watch an episode or two.
So we're slowly like weaning ourselves off of it.
But like this morning, we watched two episodes of it.
Chances are we'll watch an episode later,
but it's like, what the fuck are we supposed
to watch after that?
But then we felt exactly the same way
when Last Kingdom ended.
I mean, I've watched in my recovery,
I was rewatching The Last Kingdom
because I couldn't see the telly.
So I was like, I want something that I don't have to see,
but I can know what's going on.
And I didn't realize how much that fucking yodeling woman
is in it all the time.
But that was quite nice.
I was enjoying it.
And it's something that you can just stick on
like friends or whatever.
But obviously, Vikings, we only started watching that
because I started rewatching it.
Yes, and that's the thing I've actually been watching.
If I want something to put on,
I've been watching the ones that I haven't seen yet.
I've gone back and I'm watching season one.
But yeah, it's mad, it's good.
It's very, very good.
It's good.
If you haven't seen Vikings, I recommend you watch it.
If you haven't seen The Last Kingdom,
I recommend you watch it.
If you haven't got Helldivers 2
and you have a PlayStation 5 or PC,
should have said that it's only on PS5 and PC,
it's not on PS4, then spend the 35 quid and get it.
Because we need your help, soldier.
We need more people on the front line.
And that is it.
Uro.
Let me pause it.