1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000 We're listening and we hear you. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,920 Xbox head Phil Spencer wrote on ex formally Twitter. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,280 I love that everyone has to put formally Twitter in brackets. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,560 On Monday, without being specific about what he'd been hearing, 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,560 we've been planning a business update event for next week where we look forward 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,640 to sharing more details with you about our vision for the future of Xbox. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,440 Stay tuned. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,600 Exciting, thrilling. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,640 That is, of course, where the rumor of 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Xbox going multi-platform has has surfaced from. 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:48,480 And there was a little list of some games that might be going to 12 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:52,240 PlayStation and Switch, things like Hi-Fi Rush, 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,160 Starfield, what else was there? Sea of Thieves. 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Don't know about Halo. Yeah, Halo. 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Grounded, I think. Gears of War. 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,520 Basically all of their exclusives. 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,840 They're looking possibly going multi-platform. 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,280 And I, for one, was having a conversation with Steph about this. 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Thank you to Sam for for putting this on the radar. 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,440 I mean, it was already there. Let's not give him all the fucking credit. 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 I mean, yeah, we definitely would have been talking about the most 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,760 groundbreaking news in the last decade over gaming. 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,840 That wouldn't have cost them ones. 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,880 I'll retract that then. Sam's done fuck all for this. 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,120 He's just talking shit that we already knew about. 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Thank you, Sam. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:47,600 I was talking to Steph about it and I, for one, agree. I'm for it. 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Do you agree? No? You're putting a weird face. 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Well, no, I don't agree. 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Would you like me to explain my view on it? 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Sure. 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:02:00,800 OK, so I think back in the day, the split between the console wars 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,440 was rife and very much a part of the gaming world. 34 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 You were part of a separate cult, almost like religion. 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,960 You're a PlayStation fan or you're an Xbox fan. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,880 That was like the main ones. 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:23,360 And I think it was an exclusivity war at the time where Sony was bringing out 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,600 some decent exclusives, Xbox was doing the same thing, and it was fucking 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,480 hell, which ones do you want to do you want to play now? 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,560 In the new era of gaming, I think what you have is PlayStation for me anyway, 41 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:43,440 has better exclusives, but their subscription based gaming things, 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,960 so PlayStation Plus is fucking awful. It's WAF. 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Whereas Xbox Game Pass is possibly one of the best things to happen to gaming 44 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,640 for a very long time. It's incredible how much shit you can get on there. 45 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,040 So they're both winning in their own separate things. 46 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:06,240 And I think that that competition, that war between each console has kind of died out 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,040 and people just want to play decent games now. 48 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,640 And I don't think that withholding certain games from different platforms 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,160 is a necessity anymore, because I feel it could only benefit the developers 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:26,000 and the consoles if you were able to play pretty much everything on everything, 51 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 because they're both basically the same hardware now anyway. 52 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,720 So you're not really getting much difference whether you buy a PlayStation, 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600 whether you buy an Xbox now, especially with how much fucking cross platform 54 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:41,520 shit there is, you can all play together anyway. So I don't feel like there's a massive need. 55 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Plus a lot of the latest exclusives for the last couple of years have just been shit, 56 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,800 other than things like God of War, but that's very far and few between, 57 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,760 but it would be great to be able to play something like God of War on a fucking Xbox. 58 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,520 You know what I mean? I open it up to people that could only afford to buy one console 59 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,920 or only wanted to buy one like myself. I don't want a fucking Xbox and a PlayStation. 60 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,200 I don't want a fucking Xbox as well. So that's sort of my stance on it. 61 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Okay, I'll take your points. I disagree respectfully. I don't want an Xbox. 62 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,760 I don't want a Nintendo Switch, but I have to have them because I want some of the games 63 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:33,840 that are on them systems. However, take the competition away and Sony just runs away 64 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:40,720 with it and monopolizes the whole industry. Then they're not pushed to even do anything. 65 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:49,760 PlayStation Plus is just a couple of games. It was just a couple of games a month. Game pass came 66 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:56,880 out and there was like, well, hold on. What we're doing is not enough anymore. So we better up our 67 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,120 game a bit. And then they added the PlayStation Plus extra or whatever the fuck it is. And the 68 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,200 other one. And now for essentially the same price as game pass, you've got a whole plethora, 69 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:16,800 a catalog of games to play without game pass on Xbox doing that. Sony would still just be 70 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:24,400 dishing out a couple of games a month. So no, I think that the competition is good. 71 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:33,760 I'd rather, my ideal scenario is one console and then there is no drama. It's just the different 72 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,080 publishers and developers make their games. That's the competition. 73 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,400 That would be the ultimate, wouldn't it? Get rid of the factions and just have one 74 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,720 penultimate fucking console and go, right, everything's going to be on this now or a PC. 75 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,080 If that was the case, then I'd be all for it, but I don't think it will. 76 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,680 You're going to have it play this way. Xbox pulls out of the gaming market in that respect. 77 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Someone will fill its spot. Amazon will fill its spot. Someone will fill it. Netflix will create 78 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,440 a console. Someone will, that will just create a hole in the market for someone to fill. And we'd 79 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,320 be back to square one. It just won't be Xbox anymore. Because I don't think that you would, 80 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:19,600 I don't think legally something like Xbox could marry up to PlayStation. You remember when, 81 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,560 as still we're going to fucking merge with Sainsbury's and then it never got done because 82 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,360 it was basically seen as corner in a market because they would hold the lion's share of 83 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,360 that industry. It's monopolising. 84 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Yeah. I don't know if you would be able to merge the two biggest gaming industries, 85 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,240 like companies in the world and not have some legal repercussions to block that. 86 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:51,840 I do get what you mean with the, with the forcing developers and everything to, to be 87 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,120 innovative with what they're creating. 88 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Well, look at Power World as we spoke about last week. It's a prime example. Pokemon have to do 89 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,320 something. They can't just sit on that no more because if they sit on that, they will be 90 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,680 constantly bombarded with why and what the fuck is this shit. 91 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Yeah, agreed. 92 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,720 So with, and without competition, they would just continue to dish out the same shit. So whilst I 93 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,280 agree with you, I don't want to buy an Xbox. I don't want to buy the next Xbox. I don't want 94 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,680 to buy the next Nintendo. I just want to play them games. 95 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,880 So what are they fucking planning then? What's the... 96 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Well, this isn't all out in the open yet. This isn't like a dumb deal. 97 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:35,360 I know it's speculation, but, but what, maybe some of the exclusive or maybe it's, I don't know. 98 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,080 I don't know, but is it, is it, we're still going to have, have exclusives, but there's going to be 99 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:46,000 a timeline on said exclusives in a year of release, then such and such will be available on, 100 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,040 on other platforms. 101 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:52,080 That should be, that should be across the board anyway. I believe it should have whatever game 102 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,840 comes out for whatever system, let's just say the three big hitters, obviously, uh, 103 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo, that there should never be an exclusive. All games should come out 104 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:10,000 on all big platforms. Um, at best the exclusivity is time gated to six months to a year because 105 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:16,720 it's not fair. Basically like I'm in a, I'm well, don't get me wrong. I've got no money at all. 106 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,480 And I feel very unfortunate, but I also understand that I am in a fortunate, fortunate enough 107 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,800 position to own all the consoles. Um, but I worked hard to get them, but I bought them, 108 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,080 IE the Xbox specifically for starfield, which is all right, but not the game that I wanted it to 109 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,120 be. It's good, but it really isn't what I was hoping. Um, and I feel a bit let down about that. 110 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,480 And how do I know if this is the case and stuff was kind of PlayStation, I wouldn't have done that. 111 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,680 I wouldn't have bought the Xbox in the first place. Same with Zelda. I only bought the switch for 112 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:55,200 Zelda. If that was coming to PlayStation, I wouldn't have bought a Nintendo switch or Pokemon. Um, so 113 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:02,000 I would rather that not be the case. I can't, I can't see anything from Nintendo being allowed to 114 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:08,480 pull over to PlayStation or Xbox, which creates another argument in itself because you'd think, 115 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:15,840 well, all of our shit's coming to fucking switch. Why, why would it not be the other way around? Um, 116 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,000 yeah, it's, it's going to be volatile in it. Oh, there's a lot of angry people about it. 117 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,080 There's a lot of happy people about it. It's a tough one. I do sit somewhere in the middle. 118 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,880 I feel there's a lot of people that bought into the Xbox ecosystem and not like me because I also 119 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,600 have the PlayStation, but they chose the Xbox as their console, uh, cause they believed in what 120 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,360 Microsoft was saying and Phil Spencer and rah rah rah. Um, and so Starfield, that big hitter, blah, 121 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,640 blah, blah. We're going to have Halo, we're going to have this. And now all of a sudden you're just 122 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,920 going to release it. And they would have been like, well, I should have got PlayStation then 123 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,720 because I've missed out on so many games. Uh, cause I bought into what you were doing and you're 124 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,160 going to release them on that anyway. So I would feel let down by Xbox if I'd just bought into an 125 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Xbox. Uh, and this was supposed to be their generation. They were talking a good game and 126 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,440 they still talk a good game, but it's just, it doesn't seem to be really materializing. 127 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Yeah. Cause I just wonder what the, it, something, it can't be going that well for Xbox. 128 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Um, if you're having to make a kind of announcement announcement like that, that you're, 129 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:30,240 that you're setting a new path for the company, if you're, if you're changing the business model 130 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,720 or whatever, because there's obviously something again, like I was saying, a Steph PlayStation 131 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:47,280 outsells Xbox by a margin. Um, and Xbox need to need to do something to obviously retain 132 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:54,080 consumers. So I mean, so I, I, I am very intrigued to see what happens because normally with the 133 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:01,280 way the world of every fucking everything, once one big hitter does something out there and risky, 134 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,560 if it pays off, usually everyone else around them tends to follow. 135 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,720 And why do they do that? Cause it's competition. 136 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,440 Yeah. And because they, cause they see fucking money. 137 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,600 So you take one of the Trinity away, the Holy trio, the Trinity, the 138 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,120 away, the Holy trio, the triforce of Xbox and Nintendo and PlayStation. You take one of them 139 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,920 away, that just leaves the duo and then they'll just fill that space with something else. So 140 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:31,840 I think game pass want to go down the, we're everywhere. We don't, you don't need a console 141 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,000 to play our games. You can download it on your telling and you can just get a remote and play 142 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,880 it like that. That's what I think. It would be very, it would be very cool if you have, 143 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,240 if you still had Xbox and PlayStation as, as separate entities, but like you say, you were 144 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:57,360 able to essentially stream game pass on a PlayStation and vice versa. So not be able to 145 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,960 download the games onto the PlayStation, but be able to stream them on a, on a dedicated 146 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:09,520 server that would make it much more streamlined and less laggy. I feel like, but obviously charge 147 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,520 for the privilege of being able to do that, because then I feel like you're not, you still 148 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,200 have that competition, but you're not doing everyone a disservice by locking people away 149 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,160 from stuff you're saying, right? If you've got a PS five and you've got a series X or S or whatever, 150 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:33,520 pay 15 pound a month or something like that. And boom, you can stream X amount from the game pass 151 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,320 catalog on your PlayStation and then vice versa from the PlayStation plus catalog on your Xbox. 152 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Because obviously streaming is a thing and becoming much more better as time goes on. 153 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,760 We've spoken about Amazon Luna before and things like that. There are streaming services out there 154 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,720 that are becoming much more high tech than what they used to be and can only get better. 155 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:03,680 And that's something that I could see is being able to stream an actual game on a different 156 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:10,400 console, which you essentially do anyway with Amazon Luna. You plug the fucking stick in and 157 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:16,080 away you go. You're streaming it. So why you wouldn't be able to enforce that, make that happen on 158 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Xbox and PlayStation. I feel like that's a semi good idea, but when you've come into multiplayer 159 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,360 games, that's where you run into an issue because not only would you be dealing with cross play, 160 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,840 you'd also be dealing with streaming in cross play. So the input lag would be fucking incredible. 161 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:37,040 I'll never be for streaming. I don't like it. I've tried it and I know it's different as you say, 162 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:45,440 but I just, I just let me download the game. I feel in an ideal scenario, you can just download 163 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,600 everything on the console of your choice. And the console itself is more of a box of features. 164 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:59,760 So, you know, Nintendo will have their own little quirk like a, um, Pokemon TV apps and things like 165 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:06,160 that, which they have got on there. And Sony will have, I dunno, cool avatars and home screens and 166 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Xbox will have fucking fast internet, like a realistic internet browser or whatever it is. 167 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,920 They've all got their own features, but the games itself can be played on all systems. 168 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:28,160 You say you don't like streaming and I don't like streaming games either. But if, if, if you were 169 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,200 given the option to spend X amount of money, not a ridiculous amount of money, and then lo and behold, 170 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:41,680 you can play starfield, halo, sea of thieves, fucking whatever on your PlayStation for not 171 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,720 much more than what game passes and it run stable because there was already controllers out there 172 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,720 with dedicated servers for the controllers to reduce the input lag. And if you've got semi-decent 173 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:01,760 internet, which quite a lot of people have when I know you do, then again, further reduces that, 174 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:07,040 that, that ping essentially, it makes it much more streamlined. If you were able to not really tell 175 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,040 the difference between whether you're streaming a game or it's downloaded on the console itself, 176 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,360 I feel like a hell of a lot of people would buy into that and go, oh, fucking hell, I can have 177 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,360 game pass on PlayStation for a five or more a month than if you own a, uh, an Xbox. 178 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,160 I'd never be against the possibility of it being there and the option of it. Some people enjoy it. 179 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,800 And I might enjoy it, but the only time I've ever streamed games has been diabolical. I streamed, 180 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:40,880 um, a fucking 10, 15 year old game in, uh, star Wars, the force awakens, um, on the, I think it 181 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:47,360 came out on that PS three or so. And I've streamed that on the cloud and it, it was, it was getting, 182 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,000 it was, it was fine for the first couple of levels and it started getting jittery. And then it just 183 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,040 becomes so pixelated. I couldn't even see it was like, what is this? I've got good internet. Like 184 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,000 this isn't my problem. This is your problem. This isn't even take input lag away from it. 185 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,640 You know what I mean? That's just, that's just diabolical. So obviously you just go with the 186 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,800 experiences you've had and mine have been shocking. But that's where, that's where you need that, 187 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:17,520 that money to be involved. You think YouTube, that's an entire streaming service. Yes, 188 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,480 you can download the videos, but you're, you're streaming that. And basically anything that you 189 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,760 watch Netflix, fucking Amazon prime, it's all being streamed. It's different. Isn't it? Because 190 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,720 when you're watching a video or a film or something, it's a, it's a one way thing. Right. So it's, 191 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,120 the video is being downloaded or uploaded, whatever way you want to look at it to your screen. 192 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,280 But when you're playing a game, you are uploading, downloading, uploading that, you know, 193 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,800 it's inputs constantly. So these messages and say we're playing against each other on call of duty, 194 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,600 my input and your input has got to go back and forth and it's got to be registered on the screen 195 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,800 and the lag has got to be accounted for. It's, it's a lot more going on than just watching 196 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:06,240 something, but I know what you mean. Yeah. Cause it's, cause just does the, does the play cause the 197 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,080 cause the would you class the PlayStation pool will a streaming. I bought is the PlayStation pool. 198 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:18,080 The handheld thing that we spoke about. Yeah. You have to have your PlayStation on and that 199 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:24,880 game downloaded, but then it streams it to you. So I feel like the money needs to be there for it. 200 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,440 It was originally one of those gimmicks that I feel never really took off that well in terms of, 201 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:35,760 of, of game streaming. Um, and like, like we say, Amazon have tried to have a crack at it and still 202 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:44,240 are, they're still trying to break into the gaming world. Um, so I, I would be interested to see it, 203 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:50,320 but we have without the money being there, you ain't going to fucking bother. You know what I 204 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,680 mean? And unless that's something that Xbox are looking to introduce, I don't know. Well, we'll 205 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,160 have to wait and see. This is all speculation until we find out where Xbox actually has planned next 206 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,800 week or whenever he said, uh, it's coming out, then we'll have some concrete information. But 207 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:12,320 as it stands, I don't think it's a good idea. Um, but having said that, as I say, if they throw the 208 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,800 towel in, so to speak, someone will fill their gap anyway, so it won't last long. And we'll be back 209 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:22,720 to back to square one, providing the person or the company that fills the gap as a successful 210 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,200 company to launch. So there are a few things Spencer could have been talking about. These 211 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,720 are turbulent times for Microsoft's gaming arm, which in the past few months completed its 68.7 212 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,360 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard, the biggest game industry deal ever. And then announced 213 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:44,400 1900 layoffs. Well, this is what I mean. So they've spent billions. And I mean, that's obviously 214 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:51,200 a lot more than, um, than Bethesda was Bethesda was seven and a half billion, but let's have it 215 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:57,360 right. Bethesda have launched an absolute doodoo. That was supposed to be the big, here we fucking 216 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:03,520 go and people, I like it, but it's come out to it. And it's all right. And that's not what they 217 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,240 wanted. They wanted, this is a fucking masterpiece. Go buy a console for this shit. So they're 218 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:14,640 thinking, well, how do we get the money at Starfield that we wanted and, and, and projected we were 219 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,360 going to get, cause that line has gone down, not up. Yeah. That made what they were looking to. 220 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:26,080 How do we make more money? Will we sell it on more systems? So how, how fucking unhappy 221 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:32,240 would we have been if we had gone through with them constellation additions? Oh my God. I 222 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,840 wouldn't have been cause I like Starfield, but we canceled back to back. You canceled yours. 223 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,720 And then fucking two hours later, I canceled mine. We both got the jitters and realized we 224 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:50,000 wouldn't wear the watch anyway. It's like, but don't want this. It's fucking for me, for me, 225 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Starfield was, was a let down, never completed it. I think I maybe put in like 15 hours and then I 226 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,720 was like, this is just, I'm bored. I think it's a very good game. I just don't think it's, it's not 227 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,560 what I wanted from, I love all the Elder Scrolls games that I've played, Oblivion, uh, Skyrim, 228 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:15,920 and ESO to some degree. And I love Fallout three, all the DLCs, Fallout four, Fallout New Vegas, 229 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,640 played all the DLCs for all of them. I love them games, but, and that's what I was thinking Starfield 230 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:28,240 was going to be, which was that, but in space, which is like the ultimate for me, but it is that. 231 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,480 And then it's not that. It just hasn't got that special something. It's because of the planets, 232 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,680 isn't it? It's not like in Skyrim and Fallout that they're all, they're all crafted places. 233 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Whereas on this, there's just, there are crafted places, but nine times out of 10, you go to a 234 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,160 planet, there's something there, but you go in and you're like, oh, it's exactly the same facility. 235 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:54,240 I was in on another one, but just with ants in it this time. Bigger was not better in this scenario, 236 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,680 but I don't know how else you make a space game without some degree of that. So yeah, I don't know, 237 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:06,000 man. I think mods might save it, um, pull it back round and they probably will. Good thing about, 238 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,160 is about Bethesda games is they always have staying power. People will always be playing 239 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,880 that game. Um, so we'll have to wait and see. I'm, I still like Starfield. I haven't played it for 240 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,240 a long time, but I'm, you know, the funny thing is about the Xbox is I bought it for Starfield 241 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:28,640 and I've had more fun playing like in all these little indie games like Valheim and Powerworld 242 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,520 and shit. I've got more hours and more fun in them. It's quite amusing, but uh, yeah, let's 243 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,440 fuck this topic off. Should we? It's a bit boring me now. Sorry guys. What's that, what's that other 244 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:46,320 thing Sam said about that Graham Ville blue fucking fantasy star universe online shit. I don't listen 245 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:54,320 to him. He said to check out, I can't remember what it was now. It was called like grand called 246 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,680 some weird shit. He might have, Sam's proper nerd. And he might've messaged that to me on Twitter. 247 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:08,080 Actually. No, I swear. We said it. He said it under one of our posts in me, where there was like a, 248 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,640 uh, we'll be scrolling up forever. We, that's where he was telling you about the fucking 249 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:20,320 helicopters. You got it. It's called grand blue fantasy. Um, he said, I think you'd love this 250 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,800 game play effects, battles, music, all the mints. Didn't know about it until I saw a trailer last 251 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,760 year. Glad I bought it. Most beautiful looking game I've ever played. Demo is good, but there's 252 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,320 better dark battles to be had. And I had a look at it, Sam, and it looks fucking shit. 253 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,480 I'll be quite frank with you. Is it grand blue fantasy relink? That one? Yeah. No, I had a, I 254 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,160 had a look at it. That's not for me, pal. I don't know about you. You might like it, but, um, I, 255 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:53,840 I don't like that. That, um, is it bad to call it a final fantasy style? It's anime art style. 256 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:01,200 The anime art style. I've never, I've never really been a fan of, of that after, after playing final 257 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:09,120 fantasy fucking 17, 102, whatever fucking edition that was that we played. I was like, yeah, I just 258 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:14,160 know that this, this ain't for me. And then after playing final fantasy online and for a little bit 259 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,440 thinking, yeah, this is, this is going to take over wow from like for me. And then come into my 260 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,560 senses and going apps are fucking literally not. I just can't get with the art style. I don't like 261 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,120 it. Um, but I'm just looking at a couple of pictures and stuff of it. And it does look like 262 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:34,240 awful. I mean, it doesn't look nice. I watched the trailer and I watched a bit of gameplay and 263 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:41,040 it's just not much like you. That art style is not for me. I feel like them games 264 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,160 visually or a dime a dozen. Sam's one of our biggest supporters and all we do 265 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:53,600 is absolutely shit on his eyes. I think he must appreciate the honesty. I fucking hope he does. 266 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,920 It's just, it doesn't look like my kind of game, but having said that there's many games that don't 267 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,880 and then I love them. So, but I'll be honest with you, unless it's ever free, I will never play it. 268 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:10,560 I can't imagine, but he is, um, the whole segment on Sam, he is one of those people where, as far as 269 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:18,480 I'm aware, seems quite happy to delve into anything and everything. And I admire him. He's 270 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:26,880 happy to delve into anything and everything. And I admire that because you find so many hidden gems 271 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:34,000 within the gaming world, especially with indie games. So like Mark, for example, very, very rarely 272 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:41,600 will he play an indie game because what's the point. But I'm kinda like that. But at the same 273 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,120 time, I've definitely found some really cool shit that you could classify as an indie game. I mean, 274 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:51,440 even down to things like power welding and shrouding and shit like that. I'm playing a game right now 275 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:59,040 called Bro Tato. Bro Tato? Yeah. And it's fucking sick. And I fucking love it. It cost me a fiver. 276 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,760 And it's one of the most fun games I've played in, well, in a year probably. Oh, is it a fucking, 277 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,240 yeah. So it's basically Vampire Survivors. As a potato. As a potato. And you can wield loads of 278 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,800 guns. It's cheap as fuck. And I can't get to the fucking boss. I get to stage 19. I can't get to 279 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,160 20. It's pissing me off. But it's so many synergies and it's just fucking sick. I love it. So yeah, 280 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,000 I'm definitely one for dipping my toe in things. Speaking of dipping my toe, this will please Sam. 281 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:37,200 Go on. I have reinstalled or in the process of reinstalling, then upgrading to the PS5 version 282 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:44,960 of Final Fantasy VII Remake. I have reasons. One reason is people are going buck wild about the 283 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,320 second part of it coming out at the end of the month. I've also been warned not to watch the 284 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,480 trailers because there's many spoilers and stuff in all the trailers, which is dumb. But I guess 285 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,600 these games are more aimed at people that have played it many years ago and I'm excited. So they 286 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:07,440 know what happens anyway with some new twists or whatever. But yeah, that's one of my main reasons. 287 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,080 The other reason, far more out there and mental and no one will expect this. Go on. I've been 288 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:21,920 watching an anime series this week called Berserk. Berserk. And it is quite possibly one of the best 289 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,760 things I've ever watched. It's very old. It's from 1997 I believe. Berserk Manga series. 290 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Well it's just called Berserk. The manga is probably just the comic style. 291 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,040 Is it that geezer? No. Him? No. 292 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:45,120 Yeah, it looks like him. But that's the magazine. So I don't know about that. That's a comic, 293 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:54,320 should I say. The actual series. There's only 25 episodes all in and I'm on 21. And I stayed up 294 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,120 very late last night and my eyes were closing because I can't turn this off. I'm enthralled, 295 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,960 I'm captivated and I love every second of it. Are you watching that on Crunchyroll? 296 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,040 No. Where are you watching that? YouTube. 297 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,120 Is it all on YouTube? Every single episode is on YouTube. 298 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:13,680 Fantastic. Crunchyroll is going to be good. Jay was trying to get me to, and Ash was trying to 299 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:19,280 get me to get involved with some anime. Well I went to, I've wanted to watch it for a long 300 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,880 time because a couple of YouTubers that I watch, every RPG that comes out they're like, 301 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,440 they always do a guts build. And they're like guts, guts, guts. I'm like who the fuck is this 302 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,320 guts guy everyone always goes on about? And it's him. Geezer with a massive fucking sword 303 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:41,280 and he's just nails. But this anime is so fucking brutal and dark and just blood everywhere. It's 304 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,800 cool man. You can tell it's old but it's cool. And I'm not really an anime style. I don't really 305 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:53,120 like it. But I liked Edge Runners. And I've wanted to watch this for a while because of guts. 306 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,560 I was going to say, Edge Runners was our fucking toes in the water. 307 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Yeah it was good. So yeah I've stuck with this and I'm literally gassed to get home 308 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,320 and finish the season. I've got like four episodes left. And I need like 20 minutes long. 309 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,840 And then I'm done. And then I can look into all the lore and stuff like that which I'm excited 310 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,000 about. And see all the gaming references. But the reason is I believe, and I haven't looked it up, 311 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,600 but I believe Cloud in Final Fantasy 7, you know the guy with the big sword. I believe he's based 312 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:33,040 on guts because they say a lot of fiction is based on it. Is highly, what's the word, inspired by it. 313 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,920 And there's a lot of references into a lot of games and tv shows and stuff. 314 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,360 And yeah it's just hard as fuck. He's got a massive sword and yeah it's just fucking sick. 315 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,400 It's sick. There's some fucking dark animes out there. Yeah this is dark bro. This is hella 316 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480 dark. Because when you think about it, if you're not in the know of it, you think all whims are 317 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,960 cool and like childlike and shit like that. But no there's some fucking, there's some dark 318 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,560 disturbing shit which always makes for great viewing. Yeah it's just, it's very interesting. 319 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,440 And it's actually like a decent, I say decent, a very good story where I'm actually in Captivated 320 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,760 to find out what happens. I'm actually very invested in the story. I've been a couple of 321 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:21,280 times like oh no. Like getting proper invested in it and sitting forward and shit. So yeah I'm 322 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,320 looking forward to finishing that. So I've got Final Fantasy installed, ready to upgrade. And I 323 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,880 think if I can smash through that. Find out what all the fuss is about. Because I tried it before. 324 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,280 I weren't in the right frame of mind and just put it in the box and never play it again. Put it in 325 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,600 the bin. So we'll see how I get on with that and then see if I want to pick up the other one at 326 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,920 the end of the month. Other than that I haven't really played anything. I've just been watching 327 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:54,560 that all week. Yeah I've just been like reading. I've done a lot of that as well. Just reading. I 328 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,280 started the fucking WoW novels. I've been, I've been dipping in and out of WoW a little bit. They've 329 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:07,360 got the next patch. Hasn't been announced but rumours are it's very soon. Which is, which is 330 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,240 cool. So that'll get a resurgence back because obviously it's very quiet at the moment in the, 331 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:19,680 in the WoW universe. And obviously completed and shrouded. So that's that done. Put on the back 332 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:26,640 burner. Finished. Finito. A recent patch come out for that and basically fucking nerfed my entire 333 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,240 build. So whenever I log back in I'll have to, I'll have to have a little gander at that one. 334 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:40,880 But me and Connor upgraded his alter, like his world to the max that you could. And then we both 335 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,560 hit the max level. So it's like, oh we've got the best armour we can have. We've maxed out our skills. 336 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,320 There's, there's nothing to do but literally grind for resources. Which we were like, 337 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,000 can't be bothered. But I think my, let me have a look. For a game that cost me 20 quid, 338 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:08,320 it was very fucking fun. And I'm just pulling up the hours that I put into it for the sake of 20 339 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,960 quid. Cause I always feel like when you find decent indie games like that, you feel even 340 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,520 more happy about it because you've spent such little like bro-tato. Do you know how many hours 341 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,120 you've put into that? I'm guessing a few. Probably about 10, 15 hours. Which is quite decent, 342 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,640 quite decent. A fiver bro. Yeah, value for money for a fucking fiver. I'm nowhere near finished. 343 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,800 I haven't even unlocked all the characters, all the items, nothing. I love, I love that sort of 344 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:40,960 game. I've always liked indie games. I've put in 58.4 hours into enshrouded. Very fucking fun, 345 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,640 very fun. So I can't wait for that to fully release. You got, you got Nightingale coming out 346 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:54,000 at the end of the month, which is another survival. They just had a stress test, which got some very 347 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,440 poor reviews. People are saying it's not what they expected. Like it's not playing properly, 348 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,440 blah, blah, blah. So I feel like that's, that's one where maybe wait for some reviews to come out 349 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,360 after it's released. But again, that will be releasing, I want to say early access. 350 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Shared world survival crafting game. That sounds weird. What is this? Fucking Nightingale. Yeah. 351 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:24,720 It looks, it looks visually, it looks very good. But at the same time, when I saw a breakdown of 352 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:32,000 it, it also looked very technical with how to do a lot of stuff. And I know when, 353 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:39,280 when the stress test was going on, there was zero tutorial and you were kind of like driving 354 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,880 and you were kind of like dropped into the world with a load of resources and stuff anyway. So 355 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,920 you can like delve straight in, which is difficult to do when you aren't being told how to do 356 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:56,720 anything. And when you've made a game somewhat complicated, that, that makes things difficult. 357 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:04,720 You're, I get that you're stress test testing to, to see your limits, but you know, people are going 358 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,640 to complain. It's just inevitable. If you're doing something like that and you're not holding 359 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:17,760 people's hands, they're going to fucking wind. Cause I feel like people see alphas, betas, 360 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:25,920 stress tests, fucking pre alphas and stuff like that as like a finished product. How many people 361 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,960 you see play a beta and go, this game shit, this don't work. This is fucking buggy as anything, 362 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,720 blah, blah, blah. And like, yeah, it was fucking your beta testing. You're supposed to be reporting 363 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,320 on this so that they can fix it. That is your job in a beta not to, not to play the game. Like it's 364 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:46,160 a completed version. That's why it's funny because I see games like power world and that review. 365 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,600 And I don't know what they review, but I think, you know, IGN seven, eight, whatever, 366 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,720 but you're looking and you're going, well, this is a beta, right? So why are we reviewing baiters? 367 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Why are we not just giving impressions? That's like bowling into Santa Monica, 70% of the way 368 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,560 through Ragnarok and going, I know you're not finished, but we're going to review this quickly. 369 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,640 So if you can just fuck off for a couple of hours while we play your unfinished game. 370 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:16,160 It's like, well, I mean, the only different being, I suppose, is that power world and games in beta 371 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,640 are taking money from people. So when you release it to the public, I guess there should be 372 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,120 a review, but then this review should be updated when the game fully releases, which I'm sure it 373 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,760 will. But you're also warned multiple times when you're engaged in that you are playing a beta. 374 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,800 This is not the finished product. Obviously you've got like the main reviewers, things like 375 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Metacritic haven't scored it because obviously they're more renowned for that kind of shit than 376 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,120 the likes of fucking IGN. That's just doing it for a click. Realistically, I don't really go by IGN's 377 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,240 reviews anyway. Well, no, pardon me. I don't think anybody does. I think it's more down to, 378 00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:00,400 I think people more look at the, the, the game has for reviews now as opposed to the media outlets 379 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,760 because they all have their own agendas to push and money is probably exchanged in some way or 380 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,520 other, wherever there's money, there's corruption. So just go to the everyday, everyday Joe blogs and 381 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,680 find out what they think about the game. Um, but yeah, I try not to live my life by reviews. 382 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,520 One fucking just says currently Power World stands out among other titles as a highly unique spin on 383 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,560 two separate and perhaps equally Titanic genres. While there's a lot of good to be seen in Power 384 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,480 World, some flaws and hiccups hold the game back. However, it's important to acknowledge that the 385 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,600 game is currently in early access and is prone to big changes. Power World may not be the same game 386 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,480 it is now in a year's time. I feel like that's the perfect, if you're going to review an early 387 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,880 access, that's the kind of shit that you should be saying. It's good. It's got its flaws, but 388 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,880 be mindful that this game will change. It won't be the same game in a year. And I've, I played it 389 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:03,840 again last week. Someone's phone is about to ring. Um, I finished the first boss, I was to get the 390 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,840 KO on him, caught a few monsters roamed about and I was like, I'm having fun, but not having enough 391 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,680 fun. So I turned it off, but that will change with more updates, mainly because it's still a bit, 392 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,840 still a bit janky and it's a little bit irritating at points because of that. But I know I see every 393 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,200 day in my phone, you know, when you're looking on Reddit and all of a sudden your phone just, 394 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,040 you look at a sub Reddit for sat and then the next fucking week, your phone just goes, oh, 395 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,800 here's another post from them. Mine doesn't have been shrouded on Reddit all the fucking time. 396 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,800 So now every, every day I'm getting a fucking Power World notification going update 1.62, 397 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,120 update 1.63. I was like, all right, cool. They keep updating it. I'm down for it. I'll go back 398 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,160 when it's more polished. They announced a load of new content that was coming out for it, which 399 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:56,800 I feel it's so, it is so odd because you are working with an early access game. 400 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:03,600 So your game is not completed yet. However, you require people to play this game in order for you 401 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,200 as a developer to find out what is the best, um, best path to take in completing this game, 402 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,240 because obviously they'll have a vision and what they want, but nine times out of 10, 403 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,360 if you really listen to your community that's playing the game, then you're going to create 404 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,760 something successful. It's genius. It's genius because they could have just released it as it 405 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,160 is. And it would have been like, Oh yeah, this game's good. And it's, it's a finished product. 406 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,560 It's janky, but it is what it is. And that was a lot of fun, but I wish they'd done more, 407 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:37,120 but they've done the beta or the, you know, the, yeah, the beta test, I guess, early access and 408 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,000 people are planning and going, yeah, this game is great janky, but I wish it had this. And they're 409 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,160 going, well, hold on, we can do that. And we're going to do that because everyone wants that. 410 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,480 So here we go. This is what we're going to do. Um, and then when that's done, who knows where it 411 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,960 will be. Because what you also have is where it's, where it's an early access, like I'm saying, 412 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,800 you require players to play the game, to help with that early access process and to make the game 413 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,440 better in the future. But in doing so, where you rely so much on the player base, 414 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,560 you have to make new content in order to keep them playing the game and giving you feedback. 415 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:19,120 So you're expanding a game that you haven't even finished yet, which must be difficult, 416 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,760 but it's obviously working. Like I say, they've got their, their, their newest content update 417 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,400 coming out soon where they've brought in different vehicles and, and, and, and pals and things like 418 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,800 that. I haven't looked massively into it, but obviously I feel like Power World is one of those 419 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,800 things currently where you don't even have to be interacting with it to fucking see it popping up 420 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,640 somewhere on your phone or your telly. You know what I mean? It's just there in your face. 421 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,640 I think it's in their massively in their benefit. I don't think it makes it more difficult. I think 422 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,120 it makes it easier specifically in this scenario because of the success that it's had, because now 423 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,760 whilst they would have had their budget and they would have tried to shoehorn things in now, their 424 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,600 budget is almost bottomless and they can go right. Well, now we can continue to just build and 425 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:09,200 evolve this game, hiring staff, expanding and kind of lightening the workload on themselves while 426 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,120 still achieving what they want and more. So I can, I can see it with, with Microsoft's backing. I can 427 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,400 see this being dragged into PlayStation world. I think it was coming out on PlayStation at some 428 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,880 point anyway. You can see it fucking floating onto that. Hopefully it'll come with some fucking 429 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:31,680 cross save shit because I don't want to do that again. Yeah. Who knows. I've got three things on 430 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,760 my agenda. I want to finish boulders gate and I will finish it. I promise you the trouble I have, 431 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,080 right? Is I go home and I'll have my dinner, every bath, wherever the kids will go to bed. 432 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,680 And then I'll be like, I can play PlayStation now. I'm a little bit tired. So I'll have a little 433 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,440 read. I'll have a little read and I'll be like, she's getting me well gassed to play boulders gate. 434 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,760 And then I'll think about playing boulders gate and I'll be like, that's a lot of effort and I'm 435 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,240 a bit tired and I'll just continue reading. And then I'll go to bed and that's what happens. 436 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,560 I'm getting old and playing games is very tiring to me now, which is sad because I look forward so 437 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:15,040 much to my time to be like, right now I can play computer games, but I'm just too tired every single 438 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,440 fucking time. Yeah. But you're reading. So it's not like you're sat there doing nothing, vegging 439 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,640 out, you're reading about, you're, you're still engaging in that world. Just on a... I know, 440 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,360 but I want to finish the fucking game, man. I'm right at the end. It says that the PlayStation 441 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,080 thing, when you hover over it, I think it says like 85%. I'm so close to the end. 442 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,640 But it's so hard to know. Finish it then. Put the fucking books down and finish it. But I'm 443 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,800 too tired, man. What do you mean? You get home at like two every day. Well, one, that's not true. 444 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,520 Two, I also have children and chores to do. I can't just get in at two o'clock and go, 445 00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:01,040 well, guess it's PlayStation till midnight. Have you tried? Right. So failed, fallen at the first 446 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,080 hurdle already. Sorry, darling. Don't worry about me. You deal with this fucking dumpster fire going 447 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:11,520 off around the house. I'll put my headphones on and just sit there. You're completely bold as gate. 448 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,600 Shout at the kids when they walk in front of the telly. Like a proper parent. 449 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,640 Get out of fucking way. Try to play computer games. 450 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,760 You will get it. You will finish it eventually. I will finish it for sure. 451 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:31,440 If I could finish Days Gone when you had little faith, then you can finish this. My mate Brandon's 452 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,880 just downloaded Days Gone on his PC off the back of the podcast. He's going to give it a crack. 453 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:44,000 And he was saying how like it's a bit slow and that he's not sure about the crafting system and 454 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,720 everything like that. And I said, just give it time. I said, get a couple of hours in and then 455 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,520 the world will open up and you'll understand. Oh, and doesn't it fucking open up? Oh, it opens. 456 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,720 I'm thinking, oh, this must be like the end mission. Uh, no, here's a, here's a, here's more. 457 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:03,120 Did the old Last of Us on us. Yeah, did that. Exactly that. I could honestly, 458 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,200 I remember when that first thing I was like, you are fucking joking. Sick though. 459 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Last of Us part three is going to be an interesting one, isn't it? Nah, I'll leave it now, 460 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,200 man. They're talking, he's talking the other day as well about there's a whole fucking story 461 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,800 written for Tommy for after the no one wants that. And then he was like, but it's just going to be 462 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:31,600 one game. It's just a contained one story. Just release a game, not a proper game. Just stop 463 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,920 fucking doing little bollocky things. Stop doing remasters. Just release, do the last part three, 464 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,720 if you want, but just do the game. So fucking really, cause we'll have a Last of Us three remakes. 465 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:48,800 You've already said your little cunt that you're working on. Was it two or three separate IPs that 466 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:54,960 they're currently working on? That's, that's us never ever get into resources into that. 467 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,760 You've just, you just milked the cash cow with the Last of Us part two, 468 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,040 fucking remaster that was not required. You see the side by sides of that. 469 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:11,920 There's no fucking difference. You just called Neil Druckmann a cunt. He won't listen, but let's 470 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,240 hope we never have to ask him for anything. It won't matter. It won't fucking matter. 471 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:24,080 But you know what I mean? You, you don't need, leave the Last of Us alone. Leave it alone. 472 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,920 I understand it's a very good platform to do some cool, weird shit that pisses people off and makes 473 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:38,960 a lot of people very happy. It, it has the capability to do that. However, if you carry on 474 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:47,360 with the Last of Us, it's just going to become another dried out post-apocalyptic zombie fucking 475 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,760 ridden world where they won't actually call them zombies and call them something else. 476 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,640 You can't keep rolling with it, move to something else. Naughty Dog makes such good games. 477 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,040 Doesn't need to go down the path of just wanting the fucking money. Do something else. You're 478 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,560 already working on the IPs. Pull the resources out of fucking the Last of Us part three remake, 479 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:15,040 remaster. Here's the seven disc game for the fun of it. And just focus on your fucking IPs. 480 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160 They're already making the Last of Us free remake. 481 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,600 Of course they will be, won't they? It's bollocks. Here's one with ray tracing and here's one without. 482 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,520 Here's another 20 quid for that one. 483 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,200 I had a thought, right? Cause I keep seeing all this shit about PS6. 484 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,200 And I'm thinking I would like to know, and I've been too lazy to actually look into it. 485 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,000 How many native PS5 games are there? Fuck all. 486 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080 Just PS5 games. Fuck all. 487 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,800 And we're talking about the next generation. How many years into this generation are we? 488 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,200 And how many just PS5 games are there that you can't play on PS4? 489 00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:04,880 And native PS5 games. So when you get a list, it's not, they're not native. 490 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,240 There they're not. 491 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:17,280 It's just, it's, there can't be more than like 20. There can't be. I couldn't name them. 492 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:28,720 How many solely PS5 games are there? PS5 only games. Let's go to Wikipedia. 493 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:35,520 Yeah. I've got the list here. Look Astro's play room, the dark pictures, switch back VR, 494 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,880 death stranding two on the beach. Well that's not even out. 495 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,760 Yeah. It's not even out yet. 496 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,840 Demon souls, which is an old game anyway. Destruction all-stars, 497 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,920 final fantasy seven rebirth. It kind of is and isn't horizon. Call of the mountain marvels, 498 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,200 Wolverine, not even out yet. Quantum error. Never heard of it. Our type final three evolved. 499 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,720 These, these are all games that rise the road and ain't even out yet. 500 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,320 Yeah. You look at the same page. Yeah. Silent hill, the short messes only just come out. 501 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,640 Spider-man two only just come out and stellar blade, which isn't out yet. And trucks to an extreme. 502 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,920 That's, that's a, that's not the list because I know miles Morales is on there. 503 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,320 Spider-man miles Morales. So was that on Pissed 4 as well? 504 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,400 Hmm. 505 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:23,040 They're there. Well, there ain't much more than that. I don't feel, 506 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:31,280 is this a proper lip Astros play room, demon souls, destruction, all-stars, final fantasy, 507 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:41,360 final fantasy 16, for spoken ghost wire, Tokyo, Marvel's spider-man remastered, spider-man two, 508 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:48,400 ratchet and clank rift apart, returnal. Why is the last part one there? 509 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,280 Uncharted legacy of thieves collection. Well, this isn't fucking part two remastered 510 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:02,720 Pacific drive. I've actually read this down into, yeah, this is going onto the upcoming exclusives. 511 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,320 So there are, there really aren't that many. Well, as of six months ago, 512 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:15,360 trying to figure it out. As of six months ago, the only true PS5 exclusives are demon souls, 513 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:21,360 Astros play room and destruction, all-stars. That was six months ago. There's three games there 514 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:28,000 that are only out on the PS5. So why are we even bothering doing a new console? Because as we've 515 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,880 said before, everyone's- How much is that holding it back, man? 516 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,560 Everyone's used to a trend, right? Everyone's used to that trend of everything releases at 517 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,760 a certain time. You have a new console every four years or whatever, three or four years. 518 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,440 And then, and then you have a pro version of that or an updated version. And then it's fucking 519 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,520 and then it's fucking same with games, Call of Duty. You have a Call of Duty every year at this time, 520 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,120 same with WoW. You have a fucking expansion every X amount of years, blah, blah, blah. 521 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,040 It's not like that anymore with a lot of stuff, especially with consoles. We've 522 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:06,960 said this so many fucking times. The gap between hardware on consoles is so fucking minute now 523 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:14,880 than what it used to be because things are already fucking crazy. 4K, 8K fucking resolution. 524 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:22,720 Like shit is already massively high tech. So you can't physically make a bigger gap than 525 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:28,400 you used to be able to. So therefore the requirement for something like a PS6 is not fucking there. 526 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,880 What are you going to put in it? What the fuck are you going to put in a PS6 that you can't have in 527 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,640 a PS5? But they have, well, what I was reading earlier was ray tracing. I know you can get that 528 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,560 on this, but like really doubling down on ray tracing. Yeah, but they're not going to release 529 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,840 a brand new console, go through all the effort of, you saw, we all know how much of a fucker it was 530 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,280 to get a PS5 and in some cases still is. They're not going to go through the effort of doing that 531 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,560 all over again for some ray tracing. Well, it sounds like they are. They're definitely not. 532 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,200 You don't think they're working on PS6 now? No, you'll get, I reckon at most they're working on 533 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:10,640 a PS5. You're crazy. They're definitely working on PS6. I don't think that a PS6 is on the card, 534 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,200 or even if they are working on that, there's nowhere near. No, of course there's nowhere 535 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,360 near coming, but they'll definitely be working on it. A hundred percent they'll be working on it. 536 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:28,960 It'll be nowhere near. It'll still be probably, oh yeah, 2028, 29, maybe 2030, but it'll definitely 537 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:37,760 be there. But my point is, what's the point, if you know what I mean? If we're still in a similar 538 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:44,000 situation in five years time, I'll be like, what's the point of getting a PS6? Because all the games 539 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,440 that are coming out on PS6 will be coming out on PS5. So, you know, there might be slightly better 540 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:55,920 graphics, but I can't see my snobbiness changing in five years and be like, no, this isn't good 541 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,680 enough for me. At that point you'd have to get a fucking better telly. I need a better telly anyway. 542 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,880 To be able to start seeing any difference. I can't stop touching it first because it's getting all 543 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:11,600 finger marks on it. But yeah, I don't, for a bit of ray tracing, it might change. I'll probably still 544 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:17,120 pre-order it because I'm a bitch. But if we're just going to keep going along this trend until 545 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,840 it gets to the point where they're like, right, we're not developing for PS4 no more. All games 546 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,920 now will, there'll be no more PS4 games because they do that. They get to a point in PS3 where 547 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,200 they're like, no more PS3 games. So when they get to that point, we'll see how much life there is 548 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:38,880 in the PS5 because at the moment nothing has pushed the PS5 nowhere near to its max because 549 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,400 them three games as of six months ago, really? Demon's Souls is an old game. Astro player was 550 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,440 built in like fucking Alex the Kid. You know what I mean? And I don't even know what the other one was. 551 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:56,160 So when are they going to just go, right, this is PS5 only and this is the pure power because you've 552 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,800 seen all the fucking Unreal Engine and all the technology before the PS5 was coming out of like 553 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,160 mountains and shadows and rocks falling and all that. So when are we just going to have a PS5 game? 554 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,880 PS5 RPG please. Bang. Not only. That's what I want. Get it in me. When the fucking money stops. 555 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:21,120 When the money stops, stop. That is the unfortunate world that we're in now is a lot of 556 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:28,480 companies, developers and things like that are run by people at the top that just want to make 557 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,960 as much money as possible. Not fucking true gamers. And I feel like from a company level, 558 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,040 why would you stop if you can carry on making money from the PS4 platform? Then 559 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:48,800 why would you bother stopping? But I feel like we're already slowly going through that of beginning 560 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:54,880 to phase stuff out. As we've said countless times, did everything go in digital, no longer 561 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,600 getting a physical copy of games with your orders, just getting a fucking case instead? 562 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:06,880 Why is digital more expensive than physical? Because it's only in the gaming universe that 563 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:13,360 it's like that. Because if I buy a book, it's more expensive. Fuck knows. Physically, 564 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:19,760 because I have the item. If I buy it on Kindle, it's cheap. Fuck knows because even the 565 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,760 discs themselves have changed because it used to be the game was on the disc. But now the disc is 566 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:35,200 just a key to the game itself. It doesn't work the same way anymore. So I don't know why it's 567 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,560 fucking more expensive. I haven't got a fucking clue. It's just how it is. Fucking Amazon Prime 568 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:49,440 has adverts now. Adverts. And you can pay an extra like £2 fucking 50 a month to get the upgraded 569 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:55,040 version of Amazon Prime and not get fucking adverts. Adverts on Prime. I'm already paying the cunts. 570 00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:01,440 I've got to pay even more to not have adverts. I had to pay more if I wanted to, because you can 571 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,400 get Kindle with adverts or Kindle without. Of course. Yeah, so pay more. Have no adverts. 572 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,360 So you just have adverts on your Kindle. The fucking ring doorbell. Extra 10 or a year if you 573 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,720 want access to the fucking video footage for that. Why? What for? PlayStation Plus. Why has that 574 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:24,160 gone up? It's shit. Like, tell you what ain't going up. Wages. No, but what are you going to do? 575 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:30,960 You can't do anything. Oh, all of PlayStation's gone digital now. And we bumped the price up 30 576 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,720 quid. Okay, well, in order for me to play the games that are coming out, I'm going to have to 577 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:42,320 pay the price. Simple. Someone's going to have to front the cost eventually. In order for me to 578 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,960 access the games that I previously owned, I'm going to have to pay regardless. Yeah. Otherwise, 579 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,280 I can't access the games that I own because I don't own them. You own them. Oh, it's just fucking. 580 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,080 It is what it is. You know what I mean? There's very little that we can do except for complaint. 581 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,800 Yeah, I feel like we've done a lot of complaining this episode. Good. It's good to get it out. Yeah, 582 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,600 I'm miserable. Onto the Patreon where they pay for even more miserable. No, that's where the good 583 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:12,560 shoes. Patreon.com. All right. See you later.