We're listening and we hear you.
Xbox head Phil Spencer wrote on ex formally Twitter.
I love that everyone has to put formally Twitter in brackets.
On Monday, without being specific about what he'd been hearing,
we've been planning a business update event for next week where we look forward
to sharing more details with you about our vision for the future of Xbox.
Stay tuned.
Exciting, thrilling.
That is, of course, where the rumor of
Xbox going multi-platform has has surfaced from.
And there was a little list of some games that might be going to
PlayStation and Switch, things like Hi-Fi Rush,
Starfield, what else was there? Sea of Thieves.
Don't know about Halo. Yeah, Halo.
Grounded, I think. Gears of War.
Basically all of their exclusives.
They're looking possibly going multi-platform.
And I, for one, was having a conversation with Steph about this.
Thank you to Sam for for putting this on the radar.
I mean, it was already there. Let's not give him all the fucking credit.
I mean, yeah, we definitely would have been talking about the most
groundbreaking news in the last decade over gaming.
That wouldn't have cost them ones.
I'll retract that then. Sam's done fuck all for this.
He's just talking shit that we already knew about.
Thank you, Sam.
I was talking to Steph about it and I, for one, agree. I'm for it.
Do you agree? No? You're putting a weird face.
Well, no, I don't agree.
Would you like me to explain my view on it?
Sure.
OK, so I think back in the day, the split between the console wars
was rife and very much a part of the gaming world.
You were part of a separate cult, almost like religion.
You're a PlayStation fan or you're an Xbox fan.
That was like the main ones.
And I think it was an exclusivity war at the time where Sony was bringing out
some decent exclusives, Xbox was doing the same thing, and it was fucking
hell, which ones do you want to do you want to play now?
In the new era of gaming, I think what you have is PlayStation for me anyway,
has better exclusives, but their subscription based gaming things,
so PlayStation Plus is fucking awful. It's WAF.
Whereas Xbox Game Pass is possibly one of the best things to happen to gaming
for a very long time. It's incredible how much shit you can get on there.
So they're both winning in their own separate things.
And I think that that competition, that war between each console has kind of died out
and people just want to play decent games now.
And I don't think that withholding certain games from different platforms
is a necessity anymore, because I feel it could only benefit the developers
and the consoles if you were able to play pretty much everything on everything,
because they're both basically the same hardware now anyway.
So you're not really getting much difference whether you buy a PlayStation,
whether you buy an Xbox now, especially with how much fucking cross platform
shit there is, you can all play together anyway. So I don't feel like there's a massive need.
Plus a lot of the latest exclusives for the last couple of years have just been shit,
other than things like God of War, but that's very far and few between,
but it would be great to be able to play something like God of War on a fucking Xbox.
You know what I mean? I open it up to people that could only afford to buy one console
or only wanted to buy one like myself. I don't want a fucking Xbox and a PlayStation.
I don't want a fucking Xbox as well. So that's sort of my stance on it.
Okay, I'll take your points. I disagree respectfully. I don't want an Xbox.
I don't want a Nintendo Switch, but I have to have them because I want some of the games
that are on them systems. However, take the competition away and Sony just runs away
with it and monopolizes the whole industry. Then they're not pushed to even do anything.
PlayStation Plus is just a couple of games. It was just a couple of games a month. Game pass came
out and there was like, well, hold on. What we're doing is not enough anymore. So we better up our
game a bit. And then they added the PlayStation Plus extra or whatever the fuck it is. And the
other one. And now for essentially the same price as game pass, you've got a whole plethora,
a catalog of games to play without game pass on Xbox doing that. Sony would still just be
dishing out a couple of games a month. So no, I think that the competition is good.
I'd rather, my ideal scenario is one console and then there is no drama. It's just the different
publishers and developers make their games. That's the competition.
That would be the ultimate, wouldn't it? Get rid of the factions and just have one
penultimate fucking console and go, right, everything's going to be on this now or a PC.
If that was the case, then I'd be all for it, but I don't think it will.
You're going to have it play this way. Xbox pulls out of the gaming market in that respect.
Someone will fill its spot. Amazon will fill its spot. Someone will fill it. Netflix will create
a console. Someone will, that will just create a hole in the market for someone to fill. And we'd
be back to square one. It just won't be Xbox anymore. Because I don't think that you would,
I don't think legally something like Xbox could marry up to PlayStation. You remember when,
as still we're going to fucking merge with Sainsbury's and then it never got done because
it was basically seen as corner in a market because they would hold the lion's share of
that industry. It's monopolising.
Yeah. I don't know if you would be able to merge the two biggest gaming industries,
like companies in the world and not have some legal repercussions to block that.
I do get what you mean with the, with the forcing developers and everything to, to be
innovative with what they're creating.
Well, look at Power World as we spoke about last week. It's a prime example. Pokemon have to do
something. They can't just sit on that no more because if they sit on that, they will be
constantly bombarded with why and what the fuck is this shit.
Yeah, agreed.
So with, and without competition, they would just continue to dish out the same shit. So whilst I
agree with you, I don't want to buy an Xbox. I don't want to buy the next Xbox. I don't want
to buy the next Nintendo. I just want to play them games.
So what are they fucking planning then? What's the...
Well, this isn't all out in the open yet. This isn't like a dumb deal.
I know it's speculation, but, but what, maybe some of the exclusive or maybe it's, I don't know.
I don't know, but is it, is it, we're still going to have, have exclusives, but there's going to be
a timeline on said exclusives in a year of release, then such and such will be available on,
on other platforms.
That should be, that should be across the board anyway. I believe it should have whatever game
comes out for whatever system, let's just say the three big hitters, obviously, uh,
Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo, that there should never be an exclusive. All games should come out
on all big platforms. Um, at best the exclusivity is time gated to six months to a year because
it's not fair. Basically like I'm in a, I'm well, don't get me wrong. I've got no money at all.
And I feel very unfortunate, but I also understand that I am in a fortunate, fortunate enough
position to own all the consoles. Um, but I worked hard to get them, but I bought them,
IE the Xbox specifically for starfield, which is all right, but not the game that I wanted it to
be. It's good, but it really isn't what I was hoping. Um, and I feel a bit let down about that.
And how do I know if this is the case and stuff was kind of PlayStation, I wouldn't have done that.
I wouldn't have bought the Xbox in the first place. Same with Zelda. I only bought the switch for
Zelda. If that was coming to PlayStation, I wouldn't have bought a Nintendo switch or Pokemon. Um, so
I would rather that not be the case. I can't, I can't see anything from Nintendo being allowed to
pull over to PlayStation or Xbox, which creates another argument in itself because you'd think,
well, all of our shit's coming to fucking switch. Why, why would it not be the other way around? Um,
yeah, it's, it's going to be volatile in it. Oh, there's a lot of angry people about it.
There's a lot of happy people about it. It's a tough one. I do sit somewhere in the middle.
I feel there's a lot of people that bought into the Xbox ecosystem and not like me because I also
have the PlayStation, but they chose the Xbox as their console, uh, cause they believed in what
Microsoft was saying and Phil Spencer and rah rah rah. Um, and so Starfield, that big hitter, blah,
blah, blah. We're going to have Halo, we're going to have this. And now all of a sudden you're just
going to release it. And they would have been like, well, I should have got PlayStation then
because I've missed out on so many games. Uh, cause I bought into what you were doing and you're
going to release them on that anyway. So I would feel let down by Xbox if I'd just bought into an
Xbox. Uh, and this was supposed to be their generation. They were talking a good game and
they still talk a good game, but it's just, it doesn't seem to be really materializing.
Yeah. Cause I just wonder what the, it, something, it can't be going that well for Xbox.
Um, if you're having to make a kind of announcement announcement like that, that you're,
that you're setting a new path for the company, if you're, if you're changing the business model
or whatever, because there's obviously something again, like I was saying, a Steph PlayStation
outsells Xbox by a margin. Um, and Xbox need to need to do something to obviously retain
consumers. So I mean, so I, I, I am very intrigued to see what happens because normally with the
way the world of every fucking everything, once one big hitter does something out there and risky,
if it pays off, usually everyone else around them tends to follow.
And why do they do that? Cause it's competition.
Yeah. And because they, cause they see fucking money.
So you take one of the Trinity away, the Holy trio, the Trinity, the
away, the Holy trio, the triforce of Xbox and Nintendo and PlayStation. You take one of them
away, that just leaves the duo and then they'll just fill that space with something else. So
I think game pass want to go down the, we're everywhere. We don't, you don't need a console
to play our games. You can download it on your telling and you can just get a remote and play
it like that. That's what I think. It would be very, it would be very cool if you have,
if you still had Xbox and PlayStation as, as separate entities, but like you say, you were
able to essentially stream game pass on a PlayStation and vice versa. So not be able to
download the games onto the PlayStation, but be able to stream them on a, on a dedicated
server that would make it much more streamlined and less laggy. I feel like, but obviously charge
for the privilege of being able to do that, because then I feel like you're not, you still
have that competition, but you're not doing everyone a disservice by locking people away
from stuff you're saying, right? If you've got a PS five and you've got a series X or S or whatever,
pay 15 pound a month or something like that. And boom, you can stream X amount from the game pass
catalog on your PlayStation and then vice versa from the PlayStation plus catalog on your Xbox.
Because obviously streaming is a thing and becoming much more better as time goes on.
We've spoken about Amazon Luna before and things like that. There are streaming services out there
that are becoming much more high tech than what they used to be and can only get better.
And that's something that I could see is being able to stream an actual game on a different
console, which you essentially do anyway with Amazon Luna. You plug the fucking stick in and
away you go. You're streaming it. So why you wouldn't be able to enforce that, make that happen on
Xbox and PlayStation. I feel like that's a semi good idea, but when you've come into multiplayer
games, that's where you run into an issue because not only would you be dealing with cross play,
you'd also be dealing with streaming in cross play. So the input lag would be fucking incredible.
I'll never be for streaming. I don't like it. I've tried it and I know it's different as you say,
but I just, I just let me download the game. I feel in an ideal scenario, you can just download
everything on the console of your choice. And the console itself is more of a box of features.
So, you know, Nintendo will have their own little quirk like a, um, Pokemon TV apps and things like
that, which they have got on there. And Sony will have, I dunno, cool avatars and home screens and
Xbox will have fucking fast internet, like a realistic internet browser or whatever it is.
They've all got their own features, but the games itself can be played on all systems.
You say you don't like streaming and I don't like streaming games either. But if, if, if you were
given the option to spend X amount of money, not a ridiculous amount of money, and then lo and behold,
you can play starfield, halo, sea of thieves, fucking whatever on your PlayStation for not
much more than what game passes and it run stable because there was already controllers out there
with dedicated servers for the controllers to reduce the input lag. And if you've got semi-decent
internet, which quite a lot of people have when I know you do, then again, further reduces that,
that, that ping essentially, it makes it much more streamlined. If you were able to not really tell
the difference between whether you're streaming a game or it's downloaded on the console itself,
I feel like a hell of a lot of people would buy into that and go, oh, fucking hell, I can have
game pass on PlayStation for a five or more a month than if you own a, uh, an Xbox.
I'd never be against the possibility of it being there and the option of it. Some people enjoy it.
And I might enjoy it, but the only time I've ever streamed games has been diabolical. I streamed,
um, a fucking 10, 15 year old game in, uh, star Wars, the force awakens, um, on the, I think it
came out on that PS three or so. And I've streamed that on the cloud and it, it was, it was getting,
it was, it was fine for the first couple of levels and it started getting jittery. And then it just
becomes so pixelated. I couldn't even see it was like, what is this? I've got good internet. Like
this isn't my problem. This is your problem. This isn't even take input lag away from it.
You know what I mean? That's just, that's just diabolical. So obviously you just go with the
experiences you've had and mine have been shocking. But that's where, that's where you need that,
that money to be involved. You think YouTube, that's an entire streaming service. Yes,
you can download the videos, but you're, you're streaming that. And basically anything that you
watch Netflix, fucking Amazon prime, it's all being streamed. It's different. Isn't it? Because
when you're watching a video or a film or something, it's a, it's a one way thing. Right. So it's,
the video is being downloaded or uploaded, whatever way you want to look at it to your screen.
But when you're playing a game, you are uploading, downloading, uploading that, you know,
it's inputs constantly. So these messages and say we're playing against each other on call of duty,
my input and your input has got to go back and forth and it's got to be registered on the screen
and the lag has got to be accounted for. It's, it's a lot more going on than just watching
something, but I know what you mean. Yeah. Cause it's, cause just does the, does the play cause the
cause the would you class the PlayStation pool will a streaming. I bought is the PlayStation pool.
The handheld thing that we spoke about. Yeah. You have to have your PlayStation on and that
game downloaded, but then it streams it to you. So I feel like the money needs to be there for it.
It was originally one of those gimmicks that I feel never really took off that well in terms of,
of, of game streaming. Um, and like, like we say, Amazon have tried to have a crack at it and still
are, they're still trying to break into the gaming world. Um, so I, I would be interested to see it,
but we have without the money being there, you ain't going to fucking bother. You know what I
mean? And unless that's something that Xbox are looking to introduce, I don't know. Well, we'll
have to wait and see. This is all speculation until we find out where Xbox actually has planned next
week or whenever he said, uh, it's coming out, then we'll have some concrete information. But
as it stands, I don't think it's a good idea. Um, but having said that, as I say, if they throw the
towel in, so to speak, someone will fill their gap anyway, so it won't last long. And we'll be back
to back to square one, providing the person or the company that fills the gap as a successful
company to launch. So there are a few things Spencer could have been talking about. These
are turbulent times for Microsoft's gaming arm, which in the past few months completed its 68.7
billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard, the biggest game industry deal ever. And then announced
1900 layoffs. Well, this is what I mean. So they've spent billions. And I mean, that's obviously
a lot more than, um, than Bethesda was Bethesda was seven and a half billion, but let's have it
right. Bethesda have launched an absolute doodoo. That was supposed to be the big, here we fucking
go and people, I like it, but it's come out to it. And it's all right. And that's not what they
wanted. They wanted, this is a fucking masterpiece. Go buy a console for this shit. So they're
thinking, well, how do we get the money at Starfield that we wanted and, and, and projected we were
going to get, cause that line has gone down, not up. Yeah. That made what they were looking to.
How do we make more money? Will we sell it on more systems? So how, how fucking unhappy
would we have been if we had gone through with them constellation additions? Oh my God. I
wouldn't have been cause I like Starfield, but we canceled back to back. You canceled yours.
And then fucking two hours later, I canceled mine. We both got the jitters and realized we
wouldn't wear the watch anyway. It's like, but don't want this. It's fucking for me, for me,
Starfield was, was a let down, never completed it. I think I maybe put in like 15 hours and then I
was like, this is just, I'm bored. I think it's a very good game. I just don't think it's, it's not
what I wanted from, I love all the Elder Scrolls games that I've played, Oblivion, uh, Skyrim,
and ESO to some degree. And I love Fallout three, all the DLCs, Fallout four, Fallout New Vegas,
played all the DLCs for all of them. I love them games, but, and that's what I was thinking Starfield
was going to be, which was that, but in space, which is like the ultimate for me, but it is that.
And then it's not that. It just hasn't got that special something. It's because of the planets,
isn't it? It's not like in Skyrim and Fallout that they're all, they're all crafted places.
Whereas on this, there's just, there are crafted places, but nine times out of 10, you go to a
planet, there's something there, but you go in and you're like, oh, it's exactly the same facility.
I was in on another one, but just with ants in it this time. Bigger was not better in this scenario,
but I don't know how else you make a space game without some degree of that. So yeah, I don't know,
man. I think mods might save it, um, pull it back round and they probably will. Good thing about,
is about Bethesda games is they always have staying power. People will always be playing
that game. Um, so we'll have to wait and see. I'm, I still like Starfield. I haven't played it for
a long time, but I'm, you know, the funny thing is about the Xbox is I bought it for Starfield
and I've had more fun playing like in all these little indie games like Valheim and Powerworld
and shit. I've got more hours and more fun in them. It's quite amusing, but uh, yeah, let's
fuck this topic off. Should we? It's a bit boring me now. Sorry guys. What's that, what's that other
thing Sam said about that Graham Ville blue fucking fantasy star universe online shit. I don't listen
to him. He said to check out, I can't remember what it was now. It was called like grand called
some weird shit. He might have, Sam's proper nerd. And he might've messaged that to me on Twitter.
Actually. No, I swear. We said it. He said it under one of our posts in me, where there was like a,
uh, we'll be scrolling up forever. We, that's where he was telling you about the fucking
helicopters. You got it. It's called grand blue fantasy. Um, he said, I think you'd love this
game play effects, battles, music, all the mints. Didn't know about it until I saw a trailer last
year. Glad I bought it. Most beautiful looking game I've ever played. Demo is good, but there's
better dark battles to be had. And I had a look at it, Sam, and it looks fucking shit.
I'll be quite frank with you. Is it grand blue fantasy relink? That one? Yeah. No, I had a, I
had a look at it. That's not for me, pal. I don't know about you. You might like it, but, um, I,
I don't like that. That, um, is it bad to call it a final fantasy style? It's anime art style.
The anime art style. I've never, I've never really been a fan of, of that after, after playing final
fantasy fucking 17, 102, whatever fucking edition that was that we played. I was like, yeah, I just
know that this, this ain't for me. And then after playing final fantasy online and for a little bit
thinking, yeah, this is, this is going to take over wow from like for me. And then come into my
senses and going apps are fucking literally not. I just can't get with the art style. I don't like
it. Um, but I'm just looking at a couple of pictures and stuff of it. And it does look like
awful. I mean, it doesn't look nice. I watched the trailer and I watched a bit of gameplay and
it's just not much like you. That art style is not for me. I feel like them games
visually or a dime a dozen. Sam's one of our biggest supporters and all we do
is absolutely shit on his eyes. I think he must appreciate the honesty. I fucking hope he does.
It's just, it doesn't look like my kind of game, but having said that there's many games that don't
and then I love them. So, but I'll be honest with you, unless it's ever free, I will never play it.
I can't imagine, but he is, um, the whole segment on Sam, he is one of those people where, as far as
I'm aware, seems quite happy to delve into anything and everything. And I admire him. He's
happy to delve into anything and everything. And I admire that because you find so many hidden gems
within the gaming world, especially with indie games. So like Mark, for example, very, very rarely
will he play an indie game because what's the point. But I'm kinda like that. But at the same
time, I've definitely found some really cool shit that you could classify as an indie game. I mean,
even down to things like power welding and shrouding and shit like that. I'm playing a game right now
called Bro Tato. Bro Tato? Yeah. And it's fucking sick. And I fucking love it. It cost me a fiver.
And it's one of the most fun games I've played in, well, in a year probably. Oh, is it a fucking,
yeah. So it's basically Vampire Survivors. As a potato. As a potato. And you can wield loads of
guns. It's cheap as fuck. And I can't get to the fucking boss. I get to stage 19. I can't get to
20. It's pissing me off. But it's so many synergies and it's just fucking sick. I love it. So yeah,
I'm definitely one for dipping my toe in things. Speaking of dipping my toe, this will please Sam.
Go on. I have reinstalled or in the process of reinstalling, then upgrading to the PS5 version
of Final Fantasy VII Remake. I have reasons. One reason is people are going buck wild about the
second part of it coming out at the end of the month. I've also been warned not to watch the
trailers because there's many spoilers and stuff in all the trailers, which is dumb. But I guess
these games are more aimed at people that have played it many years ago and I'm excited. So they
know what happens anyway with some new twists or whatever. But yeah, that's one of my main reasons.
The other reason, far more out there and mental and no one will expect this. Go on. I've been
watching an anime series this week called Berserk. Berserk. And it is quite possibly one of the best
things I've ever watched. It's very old. It's from 1997 I believe. Berserk Manga series.
Well it's just called Berserk. The manga is probably just the comic style.
Is it that geezer? No. Him? No.
Yeah, it looks like him. But that's the magazine. So I don't know about that. That's a comic,
should I say. The actual series. There's only 25 episodes all in and I'm on 21. And I stayed up
very late last night and my eyes were closing because I can't turn this off. I'm enthralled,
I'm captivated and I love every second of it. Are you watching that on Crunchyroll?
No. Where are you watching that? YouTube.
Is it all on YouTube? Every single episode is on YouTube.
Fantastic. Crunchyroll is going to be good. Jay was trying to get me to, and Ash was trying to
get me to get involved with some anime. Well I went to, I've wanted to watch it for a long
time because a couple of YouTubers that I watch, every RPG that comes out they're like,
they always do a guts build. And they're like guts, guts, guts. I'm like who the fuck is this
guts guy everyone always goes on about? And it's him. Geezer with a massive fucking sword
and he's just nails. But this anime is so fucking brutal and dark and just blood everywhere. It's
cool man. You can tell it's old but it's cool. And I'm not really an anime style. I don't really
like it. But I liked Edge Runners. And I've wanted to watch this for a while because of guts.
I was going to say, Edge Runners was our fucking toes in the water.
Yeah it was good. So yeah I've stuck with this and I'm literally gassed to get home
and finish the season. I've got like four episodes left. And I need like 20 minutes long.
And then I'm done. And then I can look into all the lore and stuff like that which I'm excited
about. And see all the gaming references. But the reason is I believe, and I haven't looked it up,
but I believe Cloud in Final Fantasy 7, you know the guy with the big sword. I believe he's based
on guts because they say a lot of fiction is based on it. Is highly, what's the word, inspired by it.
And there's a lot of references into a lot of games and tv shows and stuff.
And yeah it's just hard as fuck. He's got a massive sword and yeah it's just fucking sick.
It's sick. There's some fucking dark animes out there. Yeah this is dark bro. This is hella
dark. Because when you think about it, if you're not in the know of it, you think all whims are
cool and like childlike and shit like that. But no there's some fucking, there's some dark
disturbing shit which always makes for great viewing. Yeah it's just, it's very interesting.
And it's actually like a decent, I say decent, a very good story where I'm actually in Captivated
to find out what happens. I'm actually very invested in the story. I've been a couple of
times like oh no. Like getting proper invested in it and sitting forward and shit. So yeah I'm
looking forward to finishing that. So I've got Final Fantasy installed, ready to upgrade. And I
think if I can smash through that. Find out what all the fuss is about. Because I tried it before.
I weren't in the right frame of mind and just put it in the box and never play it again. Put it in
the bin. So we'll see how I get on with that and then see if I want to pick up the other one at
the end of the month. Other than that I haven't really played anything. I've just been watching
that all week. Yeah I've just been like reading. I've done a lot of that as well. Just reading. I
started the fucking WoW novels. I've been, I've been dipping in and out of WoW a little bit. They've
got the next patch. Hasn't been announced but rumours are it's very soon. Which is, which is
cool. So that'll get a resurgence back because obviously it's very quiet at the moment in the,
in the WoW universe. And obviously completed and shrouded. So that's that done. Put on the back
burner. Finished. Finito. A recent patch come out for that and basically fucking nerfed my entire
build. So whenever I log back in I'll have to, I'll have to have a little gander at that one.
But me and Connor upgraded his alter, like his world to the max that you could. And then we both
hit the max level. So it's like, oh we've got the best armour we can have. We've maxed out our skills.
There's, there's nothing to do but literally grind for resources. Which we were like,
can't be bothered. But I think my, let me have a look. For a game that cost me 20 quid,
it was very fucking fun. And I'm just pulling up the hours that I put into it for the sake of 20
quid. Cause I always feel like when you find decent indie games like that, you feel even
more happy about it because you've spent such little like bro-tato. Do you know how many hours
you've put into that? I'm guessing a few. Probably about 10, 15 hours. Which is quite decent,
quite decent. A fiver bro. Yeah, value for money for a fucking fiver. I'm nowhere near finished.
I haven't even unlocked all the characters, all the items, nothing. I love, I love that sort of
game. I've always liked indie games. I've put in 58.4 hours into enshrouded. Very fucking fun,
very fun. So I can't wait for that to fully release. You got, you got Nightingale coming out
at the end of the month, which is another survival. They just had a stress test, which got some very
poor reviews. People are saying it's not what they expected. Like it's not playing properly,
blah, blah, blah. So I feel like that's, that's one where maybe wait for some reviews to come out
after it's released. But again, that will be releasing, I want to say early access.
Shared world survival crafting game. That sounds weird. What is this? Fucking Nightingale. Yeah.
It looks, it looks visually, it looks very good. But at the same time, when I saw a breakdown of
it, it also looked very technical with how to do a lot of stuff. And I know when,
when the stress test was going on, there was zero tutorial and you were kind of like driving
and you were kind of like dropped into the world with a load of resources and stuff anyway. So
you can like delve straight in, which is difficult to do when you aren't being told how to do
anything. And when you've made a game somewhat complicated, that, that makes things difficult.
You're, I get that you're stress test testing to, to see your limits, but you know, people are going
to complain. It's just inevitable. If you're doing something like that and you're not holding
people's hands, they're going to fucking wind. Cause I feel like people see alphas, betas,
stress tests, fucking pre alphas and stuff like that as like a finished product. How many people
you see play a beta and go, this game shit, this don't work. This is fucking buggy as anything,
blah, blah, blah. And like, yeah, it was fucking your beta testing. You're supposed to be reporting
on this so that they can fix it. That is your job in a beta not to, not to play the game. Like it's
a completed version. That's why it's funny because I see games like power world and that review.
And I don't know what they review, but I think, you know, IGN seven, eight, whatever,
but you're looking and you're going, well, this is a beta, right? So why are we reviewing baiters?
Why are we not just giving impressions? That's like bowling into Santa Monica, 70% of the way
through Ragnarok and going, I know you're not finished, but we're going to review this quickly.
So if you can just fuck off for a couple of hours while we play your unfinished game.
It's like, well, I mean, the only different being, I suppose, is that power world and games in beta
are taking money from people. So when you release it to the public, I guess there should be
a review, but then this review should be updated when the game fully releases, which I'm sure it
will. But you're also warned multiple times when you're engaged in that you are playing a beta.
This is not the finished product. Obviously you've got like the main reviewers, things like
Metacritic haven't scored it because obviously they're more renowned for that kind of shit than
the likes of fucking IGN. That's just doing it for a click. Realistically, I don't really go by IGN's
reviews anyway. Well, no, pardon me. I don't think anybody does. I think it's more down to,
I think people more look at the, the, the game has for reviews now as opposed to the media outlets
because they all have their own agendas to push and money is probably exchanged in some way or
other, wherever there's money, there's corruption. So just go to the everyday, everyday Joe blogs and
find out what they think about the game. Um, but yeah, I try not to live my life by reviews.
One fucking just says currently Power World stands out among other titles as a highly unique spin on
two separate and perhaps equally Titanic genres. While there's a lot of good to be seen in Power
World, some flaws and hiccups hold the game back. However, it's important to acknowledge that the
game is currently in early access and is prone to big changes. Power World may not be the same game
it is now in a year's time. I feel like that's the perfect, if you're going to review an early
access, that's the kind of shit that you should be saying. It's good. It's got its flaws, but
be mindful that this game will change. It won't be the same game in a year. And I've, I played it
again last week. Someone's phone is about to ring. Um, I finished the first boss, I was to get the
KO on him, caught a few monsters roamed about and I was like, I'm having fun, but not having enough
fun. So I turned it off, but that will change with more updates, mainly because it's still a bit,
still a bit janky and it's a little bit irritating at points because of that. But I know I see every
day in my phone, you know, when you're looking on Reddit and all of a sudden your phone just,
you look at a sub Reddit for sat and then the next fucking week, your phone just goes, oh,
here's another post from them. Mine doesn't have been shrouded on Reddit all the fucking time.
So now every, every day I'm getting a fucking Power World notification going update 1.62,
update 1.63. I was like, all right, cool. They keep updating it. I'm down for it. I'll go back
when it's more polished. They announced a load of new content that was coming out for it, which
I feel it's so, it is so odd because you are working with an early access game.
So your game is not completed yet. However, you require people to play this game in order for you
as a developer to find out what is the best, um, best path to take in completing this game,
because obviously they'll have a vision and what they want, but nine times out of 10,
if you really listen to your community that's playing the game, then you're going to create
something successful. It's genius. It's genius because they could have just released it as it
is. And it would have been like, Oh yeah, this game's good. And it's, it's a finished product.
It's janky, but it is what it is. And that was a lot of fun, but I wish they'd done more,
but they've done the beta or the, you know, the, yeah, the beta test, I guess, early access and
people are planning and going, yeah, this game is great janky, but I wish it had this. And they're
going, well, hold on, we can do that. And we're going to do that because everyone wants that.
So here we go. This is what we're going to do. Um, and then when that's done, who knows where it
will be. Because what you also have is where it's, where it's an early access, like I'm saying,
you require players to play the game, to help with that early access process and to make the game
better in the future. But in doing so, where you rely so much on the player base,
you have to make new content in order to keep them playing the game and giving you feedback.
So you're expanding a game that you haven't even finished yet, which must be difficult,
but it's obviously working. Like I say, they've got their, their, their newest content update
coming out soon where they've brought in different vehicles and, and, and, and pals and things like
that. I haven't looked massively into it, but obviously I feel like Power World is one of those
things currently where you don't even have to be interacting with it to fucking see it popping up
somewhere on your phone or your telly. You know what I mean? It's just there in your face.
I think it's in their massively in their benefit. I don't think it makes it more difficult. I think
it makes it easier specifically in this scenario because of the success that it's had, because now
whilst they would have had their budget and they would have tried to shoehorn things in now, their
budget is almost bottomless and they can go right. Well, now we can continue to just build and
evolve this game, hiring staff, expanding and kind of lightening the workload on themselves while
still achieving what they want and more. So I can, I can see it with, with Microsoft's backing. I can
see this being dragged into PlayStation world. I think it was coming out on PlayStation at some
point anyway. You can see it fucking floating onto that. Hopefully it'll come with some fucking
cross save shit because I don't want to do that again. Yeah. Who knows. I've got three things on
my agenda. I want to finish boulders gate and I will finish it. I promise you the trouble I have,
right? Is I go home and I'll have my dinner, every bath, wherever the kids will go to bed.
And then I'll be like, I can play PlayStation now. I'm a little bit tired. So I'll have a little
read. I'll have a little read and I'll be like, she's getting me well gassed to play boulders gate.
And then I'll think about playing boulders gate and I'll be like, that's a lot of effort and I'm
a bit tired and I'll just continue reading. And then I'll go to bed and that's what happens.
I'm getting old and playing games is very tiring to me now, which is sad because I look forward so
much to my time to be like, right now I can play computer games, but I'm just too tired every single
fucking time. Yeah. But you're reading. So it's not like you're sat there doing nothing, vegging
out, you're reading about, you're, you're still engaging in that world. Just on a... I know,
but I want to finish the fucking game, man. I'm right at the end. It says that the PlayStation
thing, when you hover over it, I think it says like 85%. I'm so close to the end.
But it's so hard to know. Finish it then. Put the fucking books down and finish it. But I'm
too tired, man. What do you mean? You get home at like two every day. Well, one, that's not true.
Two, I also have children and chores to do. I can't just get in at two o'clock and go,
well, guess it's PlayStation till midnight. Have you tried? Right. So failed, fallen at the first
hurdle already. Sorry, darling. Don't worry about me. You deal with this fucking dumpster fire going
off around the house. I'll put my headphones on and just sit there. You're completely bold as gate.
Shout at the kids when they walk in front of the telly. Like a proper parent.
Get out of fucking way. Try to play computer games.
You will get it. You will finish it eventually. I will finish it for sure.
If I could finish Days Gone when you had little faith, then you can finish this. My mate Brandon's
just downloaded Days Gone on his PC off the back of the podcast. He's going to give it a crack.
And he was saying how like it's a bit slow and that he's not sure about the crafting system and
everything like that. And I said, just give it time. I said, get a couple of hours in and then
the world will open up and you'll understand. Oh, and doesn't it fucking open up? Oh, it opens.
I'm thinking, oh, this must be like the end mission. Uh, no, here's a, here's a, here's more.
Did the old Last of Us on us. Yeah, did that. Exactly that. I could honestly,
I remember when that first thing I was like, you are fucking joking. Sick though.
Last of Us part three is going to be an interesting one, isn't it? Nah, I'll leave it now,
man. They're talking, he's talking the other day as well about there's a whole fucking story
written for Tommy for after the no one wants that. And then he was like, but it's just going to be
one game. It's just a contained one story. Just release a game, not a proper game. Just stop
fucking doing little bollocky things. Stop doing remasters. Just release, do the last part three,
if you want, but just do the game. So fucking really, cause we'll have a Last of Us three remakes.
You've already said your little cunt that you're working on. Was it two or three separate IPs that
they're currently working on? That's, that's us never ever get into resources into that.
You've just, you just milked the cash cow with the Last of Us part two,
fucking remaster that was not required. You see the side by sides of that.
There's no fucking difference. You just called Neil Druckmann a cunt. He won't listen, but let's
hope we never have to ask him for anything. It won't matter. It won't fucking matter.
But you know what I mean? You, you don't need, leave the Last of Us alone. Leave it alone.
I understand it's a very good platform to do some cool, weird shit that pisses people off and makes
a lot of people very happy. It, it has the capability to do that. However, if you carry on
with the Last of Us, it's just going to become another dried out post-apocalyptic zombie fucking
ridden world where they won't actually call them zombies and call them something else.
You can't keep rolling with it, move to something else. Naughty Dog makes such good games.
Doesn't need to go down the path of just wanting the fucking money. Do something else. You're
already working on the IPs. Pull the resources out of fucking the Last of Us part three remake,
remaster. Here's the seven disc game for the fun of it. And just focus on your fucking IPs.
They're already making the Last of Us free remake.
Of course they will be, won't they? It's bollocks. Here's one with ray tracing and here's one without.
Here's another 20 quid for that one.
I had a thought, right? Cause I keep seeing all this shit about PS6.
And I'm thinking I would like to know, and I've been too lazy to actually look into it.
How many native PS5 games are there? Fuck all.
Just PS5 games. Fuck all.
And we're talking about the next generation. How many years into this generation are we?
And how many just PS5 games are there that you can't play on PS4?
And native PS5 games. So when you get a list, it's not, they're not native.
There they're not.
It's just, it's, there can't be more than like 20. There can't be. I couldn't name them.
How many solely PS5 games are there? PS5 only games. Let's go to Wikipedia.
Yeah. I've got the list here. Look Astro's play room, the dark pictures, switch back VR,
death stranding two on the beach. Well that's not even out.
Yeah. It's not even out yet.
Demon souls, which is an old game anyway. Destruction all-stars,
final fantasy seven rebirth. It kind of is and isn't horizon. Call of the mountain marvels,
Wolverine, not even out yet. Quantum error. Never heard of it. Our type final three evolved.
These, these are all games that rise the road and ain't even out yet.
Yeah. You look at the same page. Yeah. Silent hill, the short messes only just come out.
Spider-man two only just come out and stellar blade, which isn't out yet. And trucks to an extreme.
That's, that's a, that's not the list because I know miles Morales is on there.
Spider-man miles Morales. So was that on Pissed 4 as well?
Hmm.
They're there. Well, there ain't much more than that. I don't feel,
is this a proper lip Astros play room, demon souls, destruction, all-stars, final fantasy,
final fantasy 16, for spoken ghost wire, Tokyo, Marvel's spider-man remastered, spider-man two,
ratchet and clank rift apart, returnal. Why is the last part one there?
Uncharted legacy of thieves collection. Well, this isn't fucking part two remastered
Pacific drive. I've actually read this down into, yeah, this is going onto the upcoming exclusives.
So there are, there really aren't that many. Well, as of six months ago,
trying to figure it out. As of six months ago, the only true PS5 exclusives are demon souls,
Astros play room and destruction, all-stars. That was six months ago. There's three games there
that are only out on the PS5. So why are we even bothering doing a new console? Because as we've
said before, everyone's- How much is that holding it back, man?
Everyone's used to a trend, right? Everyone's used to that trend of everything releases at
a certain time. You have a new console every four years or whatever, three or four years.
And then, and then you have a pro version of that or an updated version. And then it's fucking
and then it's fucking same with games, Call of Duty. You have a Call of Duty every year at this time,
same with WoW. You have a fucking expansion every X amount of years, blah, blah, blah.
It's not like that anymore with a lot of stuff, especially with consoles. We've
said this so many fucking times. The gap between hardware on consoles is so fucking minute now
than what it used to be because things are already fucking crazy. 4K, 8K fucking resolution.
Like shit is already massively high tech. So you can't physically make a bigger gap than
you used to be able to. So therefore the requirement for something like a PS6 is not fucking there.
What are you going to put in it? What the fuck are you going to put in a PS6 that you can't have in
a PS5? But they have, well, what I was reading earlier was ray tracing. I know you can get that
on this, but like really doubling down on ray tracing. Yeah, but they're not going to release
a brand new console, go through all the effort of, you saw, we all know how much of a fucker it was
to get a PS5 and in some cases still is. They're not going to go through the effort of doing that
all over again for some ray tracing. Well, it sounds like they are. They're definitely not.
You don't think they're working on PS6 now? No, you'll get, I reckon at most they're working on
a PS5. You're crazy. They're definitely working on PS6. I don't think that a PS6 is on the card,
or even if they are working on that, there's nowhere near. No, of course there's nowhere
near coming, but they'll definitely be working on it. A hundred percent they'll be working on it.
It'll be nowhere near. It'll still be probably, oh yeah, 2028, 29, maybe 2030, but it'll definitely
be there. But my point is, what's the point, if you know what I mean? If we're still in a similar
situation in five years time, I'll be like, what's the point of getting a PS6? Because all the games
that are coming out on PS6 will be coming out on PS5. So, you know, there might be slightly better
graphics, but I can't see my snobbiness changing in five years and be like, no, this isn't good
enough for me. At that point you'd have to get a fucking better telly. I need a better telly anyway.
To be able to start seeing any difference. I can't stop touching it first because it's getting all
finger marks on it. But yeah, I don't, for a bit of ray tracing, it might change. I'll probably still
pre-order it because I'm a bitch. But if we're just going to keep going along this trend until
it gets to the point where they're like, right, we're not developing for PS4 no more. All games
now will, there'll be no more PS4 games because they do that. They get to a point in PS3 where
they're like, no more PS3 games. So when they get to that point, we'll see how much life there is
in the PS5 because at the moment nothing has pushed the PS5 nowhere near to its max because
them three games as of six months ago, really? Demon's Souls is an old game. Astro player was
built in like fucking Alex the Kid. You know what I mean? And I don't even know what the other one was.
So when are they going to just go, right, this is PS5 only and this is the pure power because you've
seen all the fucking Unreal Engine and all the technology before the PS5 was coming out of like
mountains and shadows and rocks falling and all that. So when are we just going to have a PS5 game?
PS5 RPG please. Bang. Not only. That's what I want. Get it in me. When the fucking money stops.
When the money stops, stop. That is the unfortunate world that we're in now is a lot of
companies, developers and things like that are run by people at the top that just want to make
as much money as possible. Not fucking true gamers. And I feel like from a company level,
why would you stop if you can carry on making money from the PS4 platform? Then
why would you bother stopping? But I feel like we're already slowly going through that of beginning
to phase stuff out. As we've said countless times, did everything go in digital, no longer
getting a physical copy of games with your orders, just getting a fucking case instead?
Why is digital more expensive than physical? Because it's only in the gaming universe that
it's like that. Because if I buy a book, it's more expensive. Fuck knows. Physically,
because I have the item. If I buy it on Kindle, it's cheap. Fuck knows because even the
discs themselves have changed because it used to be the game was on the disc. But now the disc is
just a key to the game itself. It doesn't work the same way anymore. So I don't know why it's
fucking more expensive. I haven't got a fucking clue. It's just how it is. Fucking Amazon Prime
has adverts now. Adverts. And you can pay an extra like £2 fucking 50 a month to get the upgraded
version of Amazon Prime and not get fucking adverts. Adverts on Prime. I'm already paying the cunts.
I've got to pay even more to not have adverts. I had to pay more if I wanted to, because you can
get Kindle with adverts or Kindle without. Of course. Yeah, so pay more. Have no adverts.
So you just have adverts on your Kindle. The fucking ring doorbell. Extra 10 or a year if you
want access to the fucking video footage for that. Why? What for? PlayStation Plus. Why has that
gone up? It's shit. Like, tell you what ain't going up. Wages. No, but what are you going to do?
You can't do anything. Oh, all of PlayStation's gone digital now. And we bumped the price up 30
quid. Okay, well, in order for me to play the games that are coming out, I'm going to have to
pay the price. Simple. Someone's going to have to front the cost eventually. In order for me to
access the games that I previously owned, I'm going to have to pay regardless. Yeah. Otherwise,
I can't access the games that I own because I don't own them. You own them. Oh, it's just fucking.
It is what it is. You know what I mean? There's very little that we can do except for complaint.
Yeah, I feel like we've done a lot of complaining this episode. Good. It's good to get it out. Yeah,
I'm miserable. Onto the Patreon where they pay for even more miserable. No, that's where the good
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