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It's fantastic.
What's the handle?
We're going to um, at what's the buttons.
We managed to secure this one.
Yes.
Rather than having fucking like what's on the button, what button is it, all that kind of shit.
We've got what's the buttons on TikTok.
Um.
All the fucking buttons.
And I think the aim is off the back of a couple of episodes ago where I was talking about uploading
clips from PlayStation onto the app and then downloading onto your phone and shit like that.
How much more easier they've made it.
I think it's going to be a lot easier to upload more frequent clips from PlayStation and shit
like that.
So expect more because there's some funny shit that I've got saved and I know you've
got some cool shit saved that we could, we could easily pop up on there.
Yeah.
So it's decent.
I mean, yeah, let's start piling it shit.
Let's overwhelm people with the Tikitokis.
Now let me cast your mind back.
Let me cast your mind back to episode.
I don't know.
Let's call it 47 because we've got loads now.
We're breaching a hundred soon.
I say soon.
It's a good couple of weeks away.
Um.
There's been plenty of times where Ash himself.
Being the all decent cohost cohost.
Is it cohost?
I am your cohost.
Sounds like it's there's a main host.
No, we're cohosts.
You're my cohost and I'm your cohost.
Um, that world of Warcraft has been completely shut down from this podcast because no one's
interested.
And I've always said, I respect it is a niche game, but it's niche for about two thirds of
the population of the world because it is and has remained the world's biggest MMORPG
your eyes have ever seen and probably will ever see.
All right.
It is.
We spoke about the numbers before miles ahead of pretty much every other game that there
is of that genre.
And like destiny, there's been shitloads of wow killers have come and gone.
And I believe the closest one is final fantasy.
Obviously, Baldur's Gate three years as like as far as MMOs go is up there, but it's not
it's not of the same caliber.
Now, whenever I've tried to speak, speak about it, no one's been interested.
All right.
None of you cunts have wanted to fucking listen as far as I'm aware.
All right.
Even Ash man himself, not interested.
I don't want to hear it.
Can't do it.
However, if you pick up your microphone and you'd like to speak, you can do it.
And tell the lovely people, repent your sins and fucking explain for the next hour as to
why you take it all back.
Tell them.
I'm not going to say I was wrong because I always knew what it was and I always knew
why people liked it.
And I still maintain that this shit should be on console because they're missing a massive
portion of the market that they could gobble.
But here I am, level 46.
This is the seventh day and one of them days I didn't play.
So in six days, just playing in the evening, I have leveled 46 times and of each of them
levels, I've got more powerful, I've got stronger, I've got faster.
Most importantly, I've grown as a human and.
As a digital entity.
Did you forget what race you were for a second?
No, I am a night elf.
There we go.
I am a rogue.
He knows.
I go by the name of rain, dolo following the outlaw specialization.
Multiple skill trees tackled multiple key bindings dealt with quests.
No problem.
Monsters slayed, bosses brushed to the side, expansions pathetic.
Done.
I am a warcrafter.
That is all I need to say.
Ashes.
If you if the people listening, you will remember that this is the third attempt at
World of Warcrafting.
Now, the first attempt, admittedly, I may have spoiled it.
I'm not taking full responsibility, but I hold maybe 95% of the reason why that
that first play through didn't go so well, because it was utter anger and anguish.
He was just shouting at me.
I know.
That fucking button there.
I know.
I can't see it.
I know.
And we've got over that hurdle.
The second time around is a little bit better, but there was still anger there.
And then the third time round, there was absolutely zero anger.
Just encouragement.
And there was nothing but help from me.
Nothing but help.
And it seemed to have worked.
And then Ashes done what is possibly the most unorthodox thing that you can do.
However, is gaining a lot of popularity, especially in the Steam Deck world
of going from keyboard and mouse to controller, which in World of Warcraft,
many moons ago, was unheard of, virtually impossible.
And not only has Ash done it that way, gone over his controller,
he's done it natively through the game itself.
Now, you know what that what I'm trying to say is that in order to set up a controller,
there's various add-ons and guides to make life a hell of a lot easier.
But Blizzard themselves implemented a way not too long ago
where you were able to do it within the game itself without add-ons.
And I have never really explored either way to do it.
However, Ash did.
And it seems to be fucking working.
And I fuck knows if I know how it is, but it is.
And I'm just happy for you.
It's perfect.
It's absolutely perfect.
I looked at some videos of people using add-ons and it looks a whole lot more complicated
because what they seem to have, or I don't know if it's specific add-ons,
but they'll have like they'll have two kind of radial wheels in the center,
the bottom of the screen, but they can like then they'll have like a
upright down and left key binding for the kind of like Baldur's Gate style.
Yeah, but then but they'll press that and then it will completely change the key bindings
to another series of four key bindings.
And that just looks complicated.
Whereas I've just got the task, my combat bar thing at the bottom and it just says, you know,
LT because I'm using that X-Pods control.
And yeah, the only problems I was having was because I'm new to the game,
knowing what was important to actually have key binded.
I seem to, for the most part, have done exactly what I needed to do.
The odd occasion where something hasn't been mapped to a button,
I've gone in the settings and mapped it to something that I feel is applicable.
And yeah, here we are just rocking and rolling with the control.
I will say that if for some reason the control wasn't working anymore,
I feel like I could go keyboard and mouse, although it would take me longer to get back to,
you know, being able to bang down one to ten quickly without looking.
And it seems like a lot to me.
It's just a lot more comfortable as well,
being able to just put it on the footstool, sit back and just play,
as opposed to me being like a hunchback with my shoulder and my elbow up here.
It's just more comfortable for me.
And yes, it's going well.
I can't describe the happiness because we are building an empire here.
I don't know if you heard the first five minutes of the podcast, but we're famous.
For the Alliance!
We're getting there.
We've just one video. That's all it takes.
And to be able to.
Obviously, we have a lot of a lot in common when it comes to gaming.
And as we as we can prove, we have many episodes of us talking about said gaming,
but to be able to now both.
Relay a very heartfelt conversation over a game that I have loved for.
Almost two decades.
And now you're you're a part of that world and so.
So.
Engrossed by it, relishing like a pig in shit.
It's fantastic.
You should hear him when I was playing with him last night.
He's not talking to me.
He's monologuing to himself about what he's doing.
Ouka douka.
It's role playing to its highest, highest level.
It's fantastic.
I'm I'm so I'm so over the moon for it because,
like I said in the other episode, I want it to get to a point where you are somewhat self
self-sufficient and no longer need me to guide you.
But we play together.
You know what I mean?
It's not so much just obviously you still shit time to learn.
But I feel like in the six days worth of playtime that you've managed to log in,
I feel like we've got there.
I mean, you don't need me to show you how to do what you do when you're playing.
You don't need me to show you how to do what you do when you get to the final expansion.
So when you get to 58, you're going to need my input 100 percent.
But I feel like this is fantastic.
It's so good.
You left me to go raiding the other day, ditched me.
I did.
No problem.
You cracked on dealt with it.
Needed to ride carried on.
It was a progression raid.
I smashed it out of the park.
I smashed out the quest.
It was great.
I was leveling up, achieving things, got a little monkey friend.
And yeah, I feel like what's crazy is that there's so there's so much more.
There is untold amounts of things that I feel like now with how with more with more progression
and development and evolution of your World of Warcraft career,
I think these this new stuff that you haven't come into contact with will be so much less
overwhelming than if it was straight away, because you on a very basic level know what you're doing.
You know, I mean, nothing's going to happen where it's going to completely change everything
about your character and you're going to going to be like, what the fuck is happening?
You know what the crack is.
So I feel like that will allow you to enjoy so much more of the hidden stuff that we haven't
explored yet, rather than going what the fuck is this?
What does this do?
What's that?
There's still aspects there.
The main object of my confusion is the items I'm picking up because in Destiny, obviously,
as I said to you yesterday, the main draw for me for that is that, you know, I've got this,
you haven't haha mentality, which is a bit of a cuntish way to be really.
But it's nice to have something that other people want.
That's our point of games in the, you know, loot, loot of games is you want to get a sick draw and
I'll be going got it and you'll be like, well, tough luck.
But in Destiny is, you know, we've all got the same say funnel web SMG.
Yeah.
We've all got the same.
I've got hundreds of them.
You've got hundreds of them, but have you got the God roll?
Have you got the one that's dropped with all the best possible, uh, statistics and perks,
so to speak.
And when you get that, you feel good.
It really makes you feel good.
And, and in destiny, I've said to before, my fear is dismantling a God roll.
So every time it gets overwhelming, every time I've got all my gear, I have to go through
all individually and make sure I'm not dismantling a God roll.
Whereas on this, it seems like I can just sell pretty much everything.
Um, but when you're not there, I'm a bit unsure as to whether I should be keeping hold of
said item or not.
Put your mind at ease until your max level.
None of it matters.
You will replace gear very, very quickly.
Once you, once you hit 58 and then 60, normally what happened, you hit level 58, you're now
introduced into dragon flight.
You begin that expansion, a whole nother world.
And it's sort of like in between the, the, the prologue is it prologue or epilogue that
comes first prologue prologue.
So in between the prologue to dragon flight itself, you normally level up twice.
So by the time you hit the shores, you are 60 or very close to it.
The gear jump is very substantial.
You're replacing gear, fucking left, right and center.
So up until a point until your max level, whilst it's nice to get better gear and you
will, and I feel like those endorphins are going to fucking smack your brain right round
there with a fucking baseball bat because you're going to go from where you can compare
gear where it might be like, Oh, an extra two stamina on this, on this chest piece or
like an extra five strength is going to be like an extra 60 stamina and extra like your
You know, I'm getting them anywhere.
Can you get them epic characters is going to fucking beef up, but the gear wise until
you're at max max level.
And even then there's a decent amount of progression before it truly matters.
You ain't got to worry about it.
And the best part about it is that they introduced a thing where you can get a lot of
gear where when you pick up a piece of gear or weapon or something that you're able to
use, it automatically puts that in your collection in terms of transmogrification.
So I've read that it says, uh, when you pick up an item, it says binds on pickup and then
there's bind on a quip and stuff.
And then even if you, so if you pick an item up and you don't equip it, there's some items
where you don't have to equip them.
It will just give you the, the appearance straight away.
And that pops up in the chat thing.
It says appearance for such and such unlocked or some of that, but there's some bits where
you would have to equip them, but don't worry if you don't, they made it so that now if
you were to sell them, it automatically gives you that appearance.
So you never miss out on anything unless you were to drag it out of your bags and delete
it.
So in that aspect, the new gear and shit that you'll be getting currently is not wasted
because you'll be able to transmog it and you'll get all these cool.
That's such a big part of well, and I spent so much time and effort doing that in making
my character look fucking cool.
Cause when you transmog, you can make different presets and like my main character, my Paladin
is just like this fat drop down menu of all different fucking gear sets that I've given
myself and I look fucking sick.
Yeah.
That's what it's all about.
The, uh, I was listening to a world war podcast and whatever.
They give me a little buzzword.
Someone was like, I'm looking, I need to get that bow.
It's sweet.
I need it.
And I know what bow they're talking about, but the fact that they are after an item is
what I want.
I want that.
I need to get this and I want that tri drive.
Their mounts are a massive one mounts and weapons are kind of, and like, cause you haven't
really looked through it because you don't want to spoil it for yourself, but I feel
like we should, the like wardrobe, they call it always collections in.
Wow.
You can see a lot of your gear that you're able to go back and get.
And some of it just looks so fucking cool, especially for rogues, but mounts themselves
are a massive part of it because there's so many mounts that drop from raids and shit
like that.
But obviously with raids, you can only do them once a week, once a week per character
and you're locked out.
So the wrath of the lich King, the main raid in that was ice crown citadel and the last
boss in that is the lich King.
And he drops his mount, which is called invincible.
And that is a Holy grail of mounts and every fucker that plays well, it's about, you've
got people that have spent like 10 years trying to get hold of that amount and still haven't.
Pardon me.
There's some crazy, crazy shit question.
Go on.
Let's not make this all about well as much as I want to because people don't give a fuck.
I think they might do.
Well, maybe, but it might be interesting when I talk about it because it's a beginner's
view on it.
And they're probably more of that.
You can dumb it down.
Yeah.
Layman's terms.
So get to 58, uh, dragon flight, the latest expansion procs, go in there, do the training
bollocks up to two levels to get to 60, start the expansion, right?
Get to level 70.
Yes.
Got all my gear.
You won't have.
Right.
Just say I have, just say I've got all the gear that I need.
I'm done.
Yeah.
Level 70.
Then the, what's the next expansion called?
The war within.
The war within comes out.
Yep.
What happens?
Do you, so then all the stuff I've equipped is crap, useless rubbish, or do you stay at
level 70?
Does it go up again?
What is the, what's the, how does that work?
They normally over the rotation of the expansions that have come out of the levels slowly gone
up the highest that ever went to was 120.
And then they introduced a level squish.
So it went, obviously you had 60 and then 70 went to 80, 90, one, 110, 120.
And then in between that they've squished it down.
So it went from like 120, I think like straight down, back down to 60 and everything compressed
down because it was like, this is getting ridiculous.
Like you had people that will sit in with like 10 million health, shit like that.
Like the numbers were getting silly.
So yeah.
So they, I'd say they, they squished that down and with the war within, uh, chances are
they might increase the level by another 10 because you have to fill the expansion with
something.
You can't just have max level people with already very decent gear.
You remember how yesterday I was talking to you about those time walking dungeons and how
they're designed for you to be able to, they're supposed to be leveled with your current level
as it is because you're playing an old dungeon.
It has to be all, um, fucking balanced properly.
But because most of the people doing it have crazy good gear, no matter how much balancing
you do, we were able to just fucking just drive through everything.
Well, that'd be the same of an expansion.
They can't just keep it the same level as it currently is because no matter what you
do, people are going to be fucking rolling through stuff.
So chances are they'll increase the level cap to, um, sit to, uh, 80.
So what are you doing?
Right?
So I'm not playing your level 70.
What, what are you doing?
We say you've just got one character that you use right now.
No, just for argument's sake, you only use one character.
You don't play any other ones.
Yeah.
It's pretty much what I do now.
It's level 70.
Yeah.
You've done dragon flight.
You've done, you know, all you want to do.
What's your game?
Cause in my, in my head, I'm thinking with, if I'm max level, what's the point of doing
quests?
Cause you ain't getting no XP.
What's, what's the, what's the drive there?
What are you doing?
You kind of, it depends what you want to cause you, there's so many different ways to play
well, but the main aspect of playing well is you get to max level and that's when you
start getting into the nitty gritty of it.
You start looking at things like your rotation, the talents that you've got, how can I improve
myself?
You then start looking at gear like you've seen on icy veins and wow head.
There are a best in slot.
Yeah.
There are a shit load of guides and you start looking at your best in slot for now,
while you start gearing up when you're max level, you don't really pay attention to that.
No, no, no.
And I don't, I don't need to, and I, and I'm liking that.
So I haven't got stressed, but I am looking forward to the point where I get, I get my
swords, which I've got now, which are transmog to the dread blades.
Cause why not?
They're sick.
Yep.
Uh, but I'm looking to the time where I get my swords and I'm like, right, this, this
is mustard and I'm using them for 20 hours.
And then all of a sudden, this has dropped and it's better than the swords that I've
had for 20 hours.
And then I'm gassed because I finally got an upgrade because that's when, that's when
the upgrades really hit home and you get the gear buzz because you've been using the same
shit.
You finally got something that's better.
But this is, this is where, this is where that grind fest of wow kicks in.
I love grinding though.
I'm a destiny player.
You will, you will hit a point where, so for example, item level wise, I can't remember
what the highest item level was.
I think it's like four, eight something or four, nine something.
I think it's four, eight, nine or something like that, which is the highest, the best
gear that you can possibly get at the moment.
That only dropped for mythic dungeon things.
Yeah.
So at the moment, my Paladin, Paladin's item level is four, seven, four.
So I'm in the, I'm in the top end.
So in order, so I'm now at a point where I'm not, I'm looking at specific bits of gear
that I am after and specific stats, like, like a God roll.
Basically I'm looking for certain things and there's certain dungeons and certain difficulties
that I need to do to be able to be given the chance of them dropping.
So like with the raid, you know, I do it once a week.
So you've got, you're looking for raid, which is like the very bottom level where any fucker
can just queue up for that.
And then you've got normal heroic and mythic.
Mythic's a fucking no-go.
I've never done a mythic raid in my life and I probably never will.
That's hardcore shit.
Listen, listen, daddy's here now.
No, I'm telling you.
That's job interview type shit.
Let's get, let's get down to the nitty gritty.
Let's address the elephant in the room.
There was a time.
I know exactly what's coming.
Do you?
I think I do.
Yeah.
Go on.
When you played Elden Ring.
Yeah.
I know exactly what's fucking coming.
Yeah.
All right.
And you didn't like it and you said you were going to Jack it in.
I'll talk you the ways.
Yeah, you did.
I'll take you out of my wing.
You want my paddle one?
Yeah.
This story ain't the same.
I'm telling you now.
After many trials of tribulations.
Yeah.
The stinky log figured that he was more talented.
Agreed.
Powerful, better than me.
Agreed.
Elden Ring, which is not the, not true, but let's let him be.
Not true, but let's let him have his bone and run with it.
Here we are.
Yesterday, the stinky log says he's not coming on tonight.
Makes the wise assumption that I'll be okay with that.
So what I did, I give him a bit of the old reverse psychology.
I'll smoke you anyway, fool.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Would you?
Yeah, I don't think so, pal.
On he comes.
Just appears in my world like it's nothing.
Like there's no, he just invites himself.
Here he is.
I'm here.
Here he is.
Where are you?
I'm on top of the mountain.
The scene's set on top of the mountain.
He wants to fight on top of the mountain.
Fine.
We go up there.
We do the bow.
We do the curtsy bow.
I fuck his shit up.
He's dead.
Dead, dead, dead.
Proof is in the pudding.
Number one.
Steph's got the video.
You got smoked.
Steph does have the video.
Number one.
You're 10.
Become the excuses.
You're 10 levels higher than me.
And it was still an absolute one more hit from me and you were dead.
But who, but who was dead?
Unequivocally dead.
But who was dead?
It was one hit.
But who was dead?
That's what we need to know.
Number two.
And the video will fucking show it.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
But I always remember when you duel, when that flag hits the ground and you say yes,
a big fucking number three flashes up on the screen and then counts down to zero.
And then boom, it's jewel in time.
All right. Well, that never happened.
So what then occurred was I weren't stealthed.
And then when I finally did click stealth, the jewel had already begun
and you shadow stepped on my ass and started battering me to which I went, oh shit,
and retaliated and very quickly we were even matched.
And then you just got one hitting on me.
And what was ridiculous is having watched back the footage, I was like,
why didn't I just click evasion?
Because then you wouldn't have been able to touch me or I could have vanished
and you wouldn't have been able to touch me.
There's all different things. I was impressed.
But you didn't and therefore the victor gains the spoils, which was me.
Let's just go back a moment. Let's just rewind.
I was in the wrong chat menu, to be fair. That's where the countdown was.
I'm telling you now.
I'm telling you now, if I had seen that countdown, you would have been fucked.
Okay. Here's an even bigger thing that's going to fuck your mind up, right?
Honestly, because whilst that is a valid excuse,
but it doesn't help your case because you lost.
But here's another thing that's going to fuck your head up.
I didn't even know there was a countdown.
I didn't even know there was a countdown that exists.
So how did you not?
I just bowed, went invisible and then I said, three, two, one, go.
And I just started waiting.
That's exactly what happens when it goes three, two, one, go.
I had no idea there was a countdown.
So when you were saying I didn't see a countdown.
But they moved it to the fucking chat window and I wasn't in that window.
I had no idea.
Ridiculous.
I wasn't because you messaged me on there.
Exactly. That's the window I was in.
I was in that window too.
So that's what happened. I was anticipating that three, two, one.
And I wasn't anticipating because I didn't know it existed.
And what was happening was I weren't in stealth because whenever I've done it in the past,
when I used to main a fucking rogue, was before the duel begins,
you can see each other stealthed because you're not enemies at that moment.
And normally what happens is if you stealth before the duel starts,
people know where you are.
So they know where to aim.
So you normally wait until it gets to like sort of one
and then you go into stealth and you jump in a different direction and then boom,
you're invisible. No one knows where you are.
And then it would have been weird between the two of us
because we wouldn't have been able to see each other.
We would have just been circling for a while until one of us,
if you're in sort of the same vicinity, every now and then you see like a glimpse
of someone that's stealthed and it makes a noise and you're like,
I know they're near. Like I just saw them.
Chances are you would have seen me a lot quicker because you're a higher level than I am.
But congratulations.
You got a little achievement out of it.
It won't happen again.
I think, no, it probably won't.
I think, though, that why I got that attack in right now thinking about it,
it's probably because I was invisible, like anticipating the fight.
Was you spamming shadow step?
Yeah. And then when, obviously, when shadow step kicked in,
that's when I just wailed.
Yeah.
So that's why I had the advantage.
But nevertheless, a win's a win.
So let's go to the, yeah,
he's not going to come on because he'll be tired and he's tired and he's very tired.
I was fucking tired.
So I was like, I just had an espresso and dealt with it.
Yeah.
I said, no worries. That's fine.
Said, I'm going to have to put in a shift catch up with you.
I said, well, I know you're not committed, I guess.
It is what it is.
He said, sorry.
I usually take a day or two away from it a week after a rage and I was stressful.
I need to chill out.
I said, I get it.
Did I sound stressful?
No, no, I'll put that in for a bounce.
I said, I get it.
Well, it's not an easy beast to tame, but you'll get there.
He said, brother.
Absolutely. I am the epitome, the alpha Omega.
I said, clearly not.
He said, I could jewel you now on my Rogan win.
I said, that is definitely not true.
He said it a hundred percent is.
I said, I'm almost certain I would beat you.
He said, nah, I'm certain you wouldn't.
I'm coming on.
And before I change specs, we will see.
I forgot him.
Ladies and gentlemen, he's on.
I said, you're getting fucking schooled.
Remember this.
We will see.
Remember this in a couple of weeks when I take Ash for his first ever fucking raid.
And then we'll revisit this.
You need to be careful.
For who's fucking crumbling here.
No, you need to be careful because you take me into something that scares me and is overwhelming me.
It's going to fucking scare you.
It's going to take me out of the experience.
It's going to scare you.
So right now I'm just happy in my little bubble doing my thing.
So you leave me there for a while.
But this is where, what's the date?
It's the 12th.
See, this is where it's going to work out perfectly because the 16th is when those
follower dungeons come out and you're going to be right in the fucking middle of that.
And that's going to be perfect for you because it will allow you at your own pace
to explore the dragon flight dungeons and get to grips with what's going on.
With the raiding side of it, like I say, you have looking for raids.
So all this, so normal heroic and mythic, you can't queue up for them.
Like we do have a dungeon, you have to make the group yourself.
That's why most people who are in a guild is how they raid.
Much like destiny with the strikes is.
Yes. A certain level of strike you can queue.
And then there's a level where you have to basically that LFG on the app.
Yeah. So looking LFR, looking for raid is a much a introductory level into
which is good because destiny doesn't have that.
And that's always been a sucker because I've probably done in my life now,
three, maybe four raids in destiny to completion.
And that's probably a lie.
Maybe two to completion, but three or four I've gone through.
And it's a sticking point because whilst I don't know how exactly it works on,
on a wow, but that's like end game content.
Right? So that's the, that's the pinnacle.
That's what the game is based around destiny.
Like raids coming this year, so people get gas for it.
But so many people are locked out of it through, you know, being an introvert,
are being anxious about talking to people because you have to talk to people,
communicate and like get an understanding of whose role is doing what.
So I'm hoping if you can look for a raid group in well, obviously I know that's
like the lowest level of raid whatnot, but there's obviously a reason that you're
able to do that and still just get through it without having to.
Yeah. It, you cause it allows you to, to get, to just get, get initiated with it.
And for a lot of it, especially for looking for raid currently,
you also get a lot of people like myself who do it because there's something you
might be after something from the boss or, or, or whatever.
So you do get groups where a big portion of them are just heavy hitters.
And there's so, so because of that, there's much bigger room for error
because you've got these powerhouses paired with these, some people who are,
who are at that lower level state of gear, almost being carried through it.
And you don't have to worry so much about fucking up a mechanic because
there's about 20 other people there that are going to fucking get you through it.
And the good thing about the looking for raids, which I think is good and bad
at the same time is that no one really talks. You just, you just there.
Well, that's good for me because I don't like talking to people I don't know.
Yeah. No one's interested in talking to you. What I would recommend when we get to that point
is beforehand, just looking at guides on YouTube, because they're very, very good,
very quick, tell you exactly what to do as your specific class.
And the mechanic side of it really isn't too difficult to grasp.
Some of the shit that I've seen on Destiny is far more in depth than,
wow, don't get me wrong. There are aspects of wow, difficult.
Destiny, the trouble with Destiny Rays is whilst they're very cool, I think that far,
there's far too much going on where it has to be like precise and minute.
And it gets to the point where, and this is probably part of the reason I don't like
talking to people online is because it gets to the point where almost every encounter in a raid,
there will be a job that every person has to do. And if one person doesn't do exactly what they
were supposed to do and are not fully understanding the mechanic of the encounter, the,
the encounter will fall on its face and then they will know who fucked up.
And that person just gets one body of abuse. So you get overwhelmed with the fact that you've
never done the raid before. Someone's trying to explain it to you is run it 20 times.
And they're like, like you was with, well, why do you not understand what the fuck I'm talking to?
Because you, I'm not experiencing it. So they'll come in, they'll be like, right,
you see this big clock on the wall? That's going to rotate to four. And when that rotates to four,
you have to go and pick the orb up on this platform, go up here and drop it on there.
But when they get it, then they're going to give it back to you. And then you need to put it on the
clock and it will go to five. And then you're just like, what the fuck? That is literally how it gets
explained to you. And you're just like, well, can we just try and see because I don't know.
But that is, and I've been in the position of what I've run this encounter so many times that I can
do it very well. There's one encounter on, on one of the raids that I can, I can do a whole thing
that takes two people to do normally out of the raid group. I can do it on my own. And that's the
only thing I've ever been good at in that rate in any other raids, but I can do that. But it comes
down to the fact that there's a lot of people that can't do it or don't understand. And I've been on
the end of why you're not getting it, but I don't abuse them. I'm just like, I try and change the
way I've explained it to them or maybe try this way. And yeah, I might get frustrated, but I don't
frustrate at them. I frustrate to myself in my head. I'm like, Oh, come on, man. But I won't,
you know, when you start taking it out on people, you make them more nervous and more likely to make
a mistake. We, we won't encounter that because you only get that with either shitty guilds or
random groups. And all that we're going to do is join you up with the guild that I'm in, who are
a bunch of incredibly lovely people. And especially when it comes to raiding on a normal level,
what is that fucking buzzing? Can you hear that? That buzzing? I might be the love beads.
It might be my fucking headphones is what it is. Hold on. Oh no. Reese has disappeared. I'll take
over from you. Hold on. Oh, I'm back. I think it's the fucking cable. Um, the, yeah, they're,
they're very accommodating when you go into heroic raiding. That's where you need to know what you're
doing because there's much more high stakes, as much less scope for fucking up. But on an LFR
basis and a normal basis, as long as you're in the right guild and with the right people,
it's really not an issue, especially this far down in the expansion. The people that are running
that are already high geared. So again, like a velar file, there's so much more room to fuck up.
So like they do most guilds and ours included, you end up doing something called an old run,
which is basically where everyone's main characters have got that they want. And now you're just doing,
you're using your other characters to do the raid because it's like, well,
don't need to do it on my main character. So here's, here's the new shit. It might be people
trying to learn a new class or blah, blah, blah. So as far as the toxicity of it, I think we'll be
quite shielded from that because you'll be part of the guild. Yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's,
I'm more than open to trying things. But as soon as I sense people are getting frustrated or angry,
I'm just like, I'm not interested because I'm, I'm, I'm very, I'm not like that. Like whilst I said,
I'll get, I'll get frustrated internally. I won't take it out on anyone else, but when
someone starts, you know, directing a snarky comments at me, I'll start directing them back
and it'll either end an argument. I'll just leave never never attaining that in a computer game
never happens in the guild that I've been, and I've done a lot of raging so far and it's never once
been an issue. We've had some, we've had some absolute dog shit with us and it's been absolutely
fine. Are you on a scale of zero to 10? How impressed are you with me? Probably, probably an
eight and a half. That's low. Probably going eight and a half. What am I missing? What was you
expecting more? I fucking crafted my own. What was you expecting more? 10. I've stuck with it for a
week. I've played without you. I've fucking mastered key binds on a controller. Yeah. But if I, if I
then tell you, if I give you that extra point and a half, you're going to think you're perfect.
There's always room for improvement. I don't care if you beat me in a fucking duel. All right. I'm
the dojo master and I'm telling you there's room for improvement on anyone. I'm talking about zero
to 10 in the seven days I've played. Not overall. Of course I don't know everything. Oh, you're
being more specific then, don't you? Of course I don't know. I know fuck all, but I'm, I'm for a
beginner. I feel like I've fucking rocketed. Yeah. Done decent. Double decent. Double decent. Triple
decent. It's all right. It's decent. Yeah. Got a blue dragon in that. Got a little baby blue dragon
following me about. You ain't got that. I almost definitely do. You don't because you haven't done
this expansion and that's where you get it from. Oh, probably not then. So then, then, then, then,
then, then. And you ain't got ooku dooku. It's got this fucking, they call them trinkets and it's
just got an ability on it where it summons a fucking little gorilla thing that just flings
shit at people and smacks them with a spear. Yeah. You don't fuck about. You're all over it.
I was speaking to a guy today at work and a really good lad. Got a lot of time for him. He plays Ark
and that was what I was veering towards over Christmas. Just to try something different.
And I see him for the first time in like weeks today and I said, guess what I'm playing? And he
said, Ark. And I said, no. And he was so disappointed. And I was like, oh, come here,
bubs. And then I said, what's the nerdiest game you could imagine? And he said, World of Warcraft.
I said, yeah. He went, no fucking way. I said, yes, fucking way. And I was, I was, as I am now,
so enthusiastic about the game. I was telling him, I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I'm fucking,
oh, you can do this, blah, blah, blah. He's gassed. He wants it. He's going to download
it and play himself. 100%. So I've given him a number and I think he's going to jump on and
I'm going to help him out. The game, don't get me wrong. The game is nerdy, but it's no much more
nerdy than a lot of other games. It just, I don't know why it's got that stigma attached to it that
it is massively nerdy because it's really not. Or because people 15, 20 years ago were fucking not
coming out of their bedrooms and shit. I mean, they're still like that now. I'm like that.
Well, yeah, I would be if I didn't have a family. It's still, yeah, your family's in jeopardy here
because if the addiction really, really takes hold, like it has for fucking 90 other percent
of the people that play wow, then there's going to be an issue here. Especially once you start
looking through the wow shop, the mounts in that. Have you looked through the shop? I had a little
look. Yeah. I've made it my 2024. One of my new year's resolutions is to not spend any money
on computer games. That's never, what do you mean? Well, I mean, in terms of any games. No,
I mean like microtransactions. That's never going to happen. Why not? Because I just know you. Yeah,
I know. And I know me. But so far I've done well. We're only fucking halfway through January. Yeah,
and halfway through January. I haven't spent any money. Absolute bollocks. I'm doing it. I'm telling
you now, Fortnite will come out with some fucking mad skin. What, console gaming? Fucking whelps.
Little console whelps. Fucking hell. What a bunch of muggles. What have I done? You know what I mean?
I'm a fucking PC gamer, bro. I'm updating Steam and that when I go on. Do you know what I mean?
Steam library. Move along. I'm on battle net. Do you know what I mean? I told you you could do it.
You had no faith in yourself when it comes to PC gaming. Once you get used to it. Well, I mean,
all I do is click. It's burnt in my memory. I go click on, wait for Steam to go, oh, I'm downloading.
Then close that. Close Discord. Go on Nitro Sense. Click the little GeoForce button at the top.
Launch World of Warcraft, which for now, for some reason now, says miniature monsters. I don't know
why that's changed. I think it's because they got like a gaming app. Right. But it's some weird
thing, but it's got no picture of it. It just says miniature monsters dot the fucking weird shit.
Strange. Launch that. Launch battle net. I'm in. Plug my controller. Plug my headphones in and I'm
playing. Gucci. I need a wee. But anyway, I don't need a wee that bad. I could talk about this
wax lyrical forever because I'm obsessed with it. Oh, there's a shout out to the geezer I played
DayZ with. He messaged me today on PlayStation. I don't know if I mentioned it on the Patreon
episode or if I mentioned it on the Cheapskate podcast. Yeah. I met a guy, the bare bones of it.
I met a guy. I was going to die. I had no food. I see a geezer trying to punch a fish or whatever
he was doing. And I went over and I said, you got any food? And he said, yeah. And I ate his food.
And I kept eating more food than he knew I was eating. He was new to the game. I aimed a gun at
him when he weren't looking a few times. Thought about shooting him. Told him, rule 101. I said to
him, do not trust anyone in DayZ. Not even me. I said, you can trust me, but don't trust me.
I'm giving him off sort of weird psycho vibes there, but I knew what I was trying to say to him.
Anyway, long story short, I gave him a gun to protect himself. He fired off all the shots
at the zombies, attracted a horde of zombies towards us. We escaped. Obviously attracted
the attention of other survivors and they shot us both and we died. But that was the experience.
Messaged him saying, some guy killed us both. He said, cheers for the help. I said, no problem.
If you need any help, let me know. By the way, do a podcast called Sponsor Buttons. Feel free
to listen to it. And that was the 14th of December. And he messaged me today saying,
I've been listening to your podcast. Fucking funny stuff. Hope you're doing well and had a
Christmas and New Year. How have you been doing on DayZ? Had a good run the other day.
Lots of gear, batteries, guns, the lot. Then I trusted some twat, gave him a gun with one bullet
and he shot me in the face. Love it. Lol. I said, that's wicked, mate. Hope you're well,
pal. DayZ, DayZ, DayZ, where to begin? Lesson number one, I taught you trust no one. The best
thing about DayZ, it constantly teaches you lessons as you play. And I'm sure you've learned a pretty
important one there. So just wanted to shout him out really and say, thanks for listening and
continue on your journey in DayZ. Although I can't help you no more because now I live in
Azeroth. But understand this, that if there's a brief period in our Azerothian lives where we
come back to DayZ and we cross paths, a gun will be pointed at your head and the trigger will be
pulled. When you're not looking. It's as simple as that. Ash is a better man than I am. I will kill
people on site just for the fun of it. And I will protect you, my friend, because I do not kill
people unless they deserve it. But yeah, I just wanted to shout him out because I thought it was
a really nice message to receive. I like that shit. I like it when it's much more organic, stuff like
that. Yeah, it was cool, man. This is how long we done? Because I just want to play World of
Warcraft. Not long enough. No, no, it's fine. I have a lot of stuff to say. It's crazy. You wake up in the
morning and you think, wow, World of Warcraft. Throughout your day, there's various bits. You
spend a long time thinking about your talents. Could I change that? You should download WoW
Armory. It lets you see the world quests and your characters. It lets you look at your talents. It
lets you actually buy stuff off the auction house without having to actually physically go there.
With your gold on your character? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'll download that. It's very... You've got it on
your phone? Yeah, I'm just clinging to it now. Last time I went into it, it wouldn't let me log
in for some reason, but... I was looking at my legs today thinking how much and am I brave enough to
break one of them so I can lay in bed and play WoW. It's terrible, isn't it? It's really bad. You wait until the
fucking next expansion comes out, you're going to be like, yeah, I'm not coming in. Sorry, something's
happened. Something's happened. I really apologize. I did it the other day. I didn't go into work because
I was like, you know what? I'm excited. I'm not going in. It was the other day, wasn't it? The night
that you stayed up late with me, I had no idea. I was like, he's staying up late. Well, I'll stay up
late with him then. All of a sudden, I've gone to bed texting the next day. I thought, that sounds
fucking quiet and the voice note, you at work? No. You fucking cunt. I'm knackered. I told you though,
I said I'm having a tactical day off. Yeah, but I didn't know that's what you meant. You fucked me over.
I thought, fuck me. He normally goes to bed early. It's up till like half 11 on a school night. Text
it like one in the morning and said, yeah, I've got the shit, so I'm not coming in. I sat there
fucking to a mythic dungeon. It's good, man. What is it? Yeah, it looks like this and you can see
like your world quest. I don't think you would have got into world quests yet, but it also,
does it let me view my character? Would it let me view it this time around? Also, that guy that
played Daisy, if you want the good shit, you have to sign up to Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash
what's the buttons. Also, it lets you look at your... Oh, it's WoW Armory. I should see WoW companion.
Yeah, that's the one. Oh, it's a companion app. I love a companion app. But it also lets you look
at the calendar for different events and then it also lets you look at your guild and then you can
look at the guild chat and talk to them and shit like that. So, when you get really addicted and
you can't bear to be away from it, you sit there talking to people on WoW through your phone,
thinking, how cool is this? Or you do like what I've done a couple of times where you're unable
to raid and you sit on Discord on your phone in the chat, just listening to people fucking
raiding you, hearing the tactics and shit like that. It's a nice little, I don't know, it's
the community of it. The camaraderie. Yeah, I've really enjoyed being with you, exploring it for
the third time around and actually for myself being much more welcoming because I'm very much
that almost selfish style of gamer where it's like, well, if you don't know what you're doing
immediately, I can't be asked with you. But obviously I've changed my ways. We've grown up,
I'm a different person now. I understand as well why it's invigorating you because I feel like
there's many games out there. I don't have many gamer friends. I've got Clarky, I've got my mate
Royce, but he's more just a cod gamer and stuff like that. So, you're the only real gamer,
gamer I know. And when you really love a game, you want other people to experience it. And when
they experience it and don't love it like you do, you're like, please love it. Why do you not love
the thing that I love? Please love it more. And I'm the same. I've tried to get you into Destiny,
tried to get Connor into Destiny. Clarky kind of got me into Destiny, but then just never really
wanting to come back. I've tried to get people into the things I love and they're never interested.
So I get why it's like invigorating for you to experience my joy and listen to me rabbit on and
get excited about finding a pair on the floor and being like, oh, I see excited for, but I'm here
for it. And there's so much shit to do. And it's one of those ones where because it's a proper MMORPG,
you're going to be attached to it. There's going to be always something to do. So it's going to
keep you coming back and back and back and back. And like I said the other day, you're only playing
a fucking rogue. There's so many more other fucking classes there that do so many different roles that
you just... I've already planned my next two. So who's the next two? Well, I'm going to do,
I'm either carrying on Warg Ragnar and sorting that out. Cause I don't know what cluster fuck I
left him in, but that's unacceptable. Or I'll start another warrior. Or I'm doing a, I don't know what
you'd call them on WoW, a mage or a wizard or something. Because I've already got the character
in my head of what he is, what he does. All will be revealed in time. Right now I'm focusing on
on rain Dolos adventures in Azeroth. Mages can conjure up tables of food that everyone can eat
from. Yeah. They're very cool. And they make little teleports. Some of the best DPS at the moment is
mage. They're up there. So yeah, they're my next couple of characters, but let's, let's deal with
rain first. Cause he's got many journeys ahead of him still. But heading back to you saying that
WoW should be on console that call is getting much, much louder. The more and more we go on,
especially with the native controller support, what you run into issues with are so things like
raiding PVP dungeons, that end game content where the geezer just said PVP when he got
schooled with a controller. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, that targeting and it, it gets very hectic
and you've already experienced that where you're targeting the wrong thing without kind of realizing.
Um, and it's not a massive issue, but it's the, the general consensus of it would be if you had a,
if you had a 20 man group, 10 of them, a PC and keyboard, the other 10 of controller,
the PC and keyboard, the, the mouse and keyboard people are going to swamp the controller people.
They just are. It's, it's, I'm not saying that controller people will be bad, but there will be
a gap there because that's just how the game is designed around a mouse and keyboard. And so are
many of the people that play it. So I would love to see it on console. And I think it would do
really well. However, I think they would either have to have, have it all as one so that console
and PC are able to play together, but also be able to have a separate, um, not league, but, but section.
So say for example, with, with mythic plus dungeons have it so that you can do them all together,
but have a separate basis. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're where I'm quite competitive with it. Not
crazy, but when you, especially when you get into things like mythic plus, there's a website called
warcraft logs, where basically you can save the data of your entire encounter and there's a ranking
system. So you can see how good you are versus the world. And there's people that take that shit
fucking seriously. I'm talking proper, like drawing up charts and things like that and,
and really delving into it. There's some serious nerdiness that goes on. I respect it, but I also
don't want to be a part of it. Um, and when it comes to mythic plus, you have a rating and people
are fighting for as best a rating as they can possibly get. So if you end up being fucked over
because someone's on a controller, like it's, it's, it will be difficult, but I also think that with
the Microsoft Blizzard sort of little fucking hug that they've now got, um, I do see it happening,
it moving over to console. I would just love to see what kind of form it would be and whether it
would be exactly how it is now, or if it will be how something like boulders gate is where it's the
same game, but the actual UI and stuff itself has changed to accommodate for a controller.
Do you know what I mean? Kind of like how ESO do it, where they've got their console version,
but they've also got their PC version, but I wouldn't want it to be exactly like that because
they aren't fucking cross-platformed. I wouldn't want that, which would be absolutely shit because
think how fucking tearing that would be if you go, if rain dolo goes through this whole thing
and then you get to a certain point and then boom, it comes out on console and it's not fucking
cross-platform because you'd be like, what am I supposed to do? Are you on, I can hear it.
You're on fucking wow. I was wondering why it wasn't working. And then I realized it was set to
America and Oceania by default. It can be a bit fucking, it wasn't letting me log in with my account.
I believe it can be a bit temperamental. Yes. It's not the most perfect app in the world,
but it lets you see something. Let me see my stuff. Yeah. Oh, look, I've got rain dolo,
war, Gragna and war, Gragna. Why have I got two war, Gragnas? One's level one and one's.
I don't know. Might be a little glitch. Okay. Rain dolo. Here we go.
Let's see. He was like, I don't want the whole episode to just be about World of Warcraft.
And this whole episode. No, and here we are. Look, you know what I mean? Here I am. Here's rain
dolo. Let's view him. Let's view the shit out of him. You can change expense. Oh, look, I can see
all my stuff. I can see him. There he is. Look, look at him. There he is. Yeah. For some reason,
I can't fucking view. There he is. Most shiny. You can bauble item level 104 plus 16 agility.
Equip your harmful abilities. Have a chance to cause you to summon Ouka dooka to fight by
your side for 15 seconds. He fucking loves it. And he absolutely loves it. He does fight by my side
for 15 seconds and then some. The geezer don't go away. He's always with me. Me and Ouka dooka till
the end. Auction house. Yeah. Let's have a little look. Battle pets. I'm annoyed that it won't let
me view my character. No one cares about your character. It's really annoying. So I can buy,
I can just buy stuff out here, right? Yeah. Ghastly kid. 1800 gold for a goat. Level 25.
Yeah. Not doing that. It's cool to look at. It's a pet. Yeah, I know. Because you're like,
it's a pet, it's a pet battling pet. And level 25 is a match level for a pet. I'll level my own one up.
Thank you very much. Change expansion, change characters. Do you want to end the episode here?
I do need a wee. But obviously the good shit's in the paid one anyway. Patreon.com forward slash
what's the buttons? It's fucking five pounds a month, I think, or something like that. Yeah, man.
Cheapskates, bro. Get on there. We see you expect us more on TikTok. See you later. Uro.