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Started well I've tripped over
He face planted into the studio and then got my massage caught in my red bull. I thought it was your tooth
No, it sounded like a tooth. You got some hard tash. Yeah, I got caught in that natural ball in the ring
Made such a horrible noise. Oh
God it's cold, but we're getting a little bit warmer. It's been
It's been an exciting week for for gaming isn't it is it well today
specifically
What called Oh Cody Cody? Yeah, I'm excited Cody waddy a couple of blasts. Yeah
You played that little fucking free hour campaign yet. Yeah done that. Yes, that's done
Yeah, I mean let's be honest now to be fair
Started it off. I started on veteran
Like I did the last one on like the hardest difficulty feel like it makes it more realistic
Little one bangs and that mmm duck and dive and all this shit
Excuse me and
Yeah, I was doing it and then I started seeing all this hatred towards a campaign. Come on
I never said it was like three four hours long and I was like fuck it
So I put it on the easiest setting and just ran through the whole campaign
Mm-hmm. So I'm only playing it for the story anyway, and I thought this story was pretty good
I know people who've got different opinions. I like it, but it 100% should be a
DLC. Oh, yeah, it has had some
For finger with with Call of Duty. I genuinely feel like
there
It's a problem cuz they can it can be as shit as you like. Everyone's gonna buy it
It just has that cult following like like FIFA
Like Forza, it's just got that
You know why didn't you why because there's no competitor
There's no better football game in FIFA and there's no better shooter than cod
This is true
Like if you're talking just shooter like you can get better military shooters you can get realistic shooters, but you can't get just a core duty
There's no compare only one that was close with battlefield and that's just dead on arrival
It's making somewhat of a resurgence battlefield or maybe that's just my tick-tock being fucking false
But I'm seeing some half decent stuff, but it's not enough to pull me back into but neither is
More than warfare free. It's just I've got zero interest in it. Well, neither did I like literally a month ago
Mmm, I had no interest but it's the thing this same with battlefield every now and again
You just get an itch. He's like, you know, I just want to shoot some shit
Yeah, and you get it on and you're in yeah
I just had to get it just before the vault edition. I just I just don't like the
the 900 plus weapon skins
That are now in it in this DLC
600 of them being in the fucking in MW free just seems seems like a lot my mate Brandon was telling me
There's two battle passes. Is it? Oh what the black sale the black sale? Yeah. Yeah, the fuck's bringing me no
You're gonna ruin my podcast
Fuck
Moving else every cunts ringing me fucking constantly. I don't know who he is. Um
Yeah, there's it
I don't want to I don't want to sit here and just slag it because I haven't played it nor do I intend to so I
Don't want to be one of those guys that just sees a load of load of like
Articles, I just reads a headline and goes all well, it must be six everyone saying it shit
so I've had obviously like say my mate Brandon is
as both the same edition as you so he's already played the campaign he's
Massive when it comes to Call of Duty has played every single one. That's his that's his bread and butter
So it's kind of like if I how if I wanted info on the Witcher
I'd come to you if I wanted info on any Call of Duty
I'd be going to his front door because he's just fucking nerded out on it sent me a shitload of articles all sorts stuff
Voice notes like half an hour was worth of voice notes because I asked him on the way to work for like an in-depth review
I could have just pluck fucking played that on this really and we could just say in silence would have been perfect
He's like
so weighing up what's the good and what's the bad and
saying how like the
The campaign isn't that great, but most people don't play Call of Duty for the campaign, which you don't correct
so it's kind of like can can skirt over that and
Obviously like saying decent things about how I found it odd that
with the black cell battle pass
The addition that you bought am I right and saying it gives you 50 tears 25 25
Saying how that's a benefit. Well to me it doesn't sound like a benefit
But I'm not massive into battle passes, but I can imagine if you're paying for that that extra little skip is
helpful
But yeah, I just don't I don't know enough about it to really comment properly on it
I don't think it makes any difference
I mean I bought the black cell battle pass of the last season of war zones just passed and I
Don't I haven't played it that much played war zone, you know
most nights of the week for a couple of hours, maybe from like seven till ten normally and
Done the battle pass easy peasy. It's not like
You just organically unlock if you were fucking sweaty on it and played it constantly you'd smash that battle pass so quick
Yeah, no different to any to anything with a battle exactly. So they're just it's nice to have skips
That's not what you buy it for I bought it for
Early access to the campaign because I like to play the campaigns in cod
But if I play if the game came out today, I wouldn't be playing a campaign of planning multiplayer
No, so then I'm like, well, when am I gonna play the campaign?
Well battlefield didn't even come out with campaign did it exactly and like multiplayer and that's what I think if cod just stopped making campaigns
People still buy it. So the fact that there's a there's a campaign there is good, but I wouldn't call it a campaign
It is literally a DLC the game itself in my opinion is good. The story is good
but it's
Well as we've alluded to before the length is just embarrassing which which massively just points to as was
Previously pointed out a DLC is in the works for modern warfare 2 which didn't materialize and then oh look here's modern warfare
There's modern warfare 3
have they have they actually changed anything in terms of of
graphics gun feel
Actual movement is there anything where they've or is is it just MW2?
But in a different skin. No, they've changed a lot. They've changed a lot
The rioting when you kill someone is yellow instead of white. So that's different
That is true that is the case but no, yeah, it does it feels a lot different it feels a lot more
Arcady than the previous installment. Whereas they went more for realism on the latest war zone
Yeah, people didn't like that because people more arcade issues
I prefer the military feel the more sim feel but people for the arcadey feel which is fine
I don't mind either really and
Yeah, definitely feels more arcadey how much
Mmm
So they they said it was gonna be a DLC or they didn't but reports were
And I and I wonder because I'm sure they said they were gonna skip a year with Call of Duty and there wasn't gonna be one
They did not but yet they did not and here comes this free hour campaign
Hmm, and the multiplayer which is all the old maps
Terminal the favela. Yeah, I mean, so how much have they really done here? I don't know
It doesn't it doesn't look like they
There's no
There's no question about it. This was meant to be a DLC
This was this was a DLC written all over it and they thought our fuck it. Let's let's give it a whack
Let's not forget that half of this company is Blizzard
Who are notorious for trying to squeeze as much fucking money out of something as they possibly can?
So if it's cheaper to turn a DLC into a fully fledged game and then make more money out of it
There that it's it. It's a business
Thing if you're gonna make you can't sell a DLC for 70 quid
Can set a fucking proper cold game for 70 quid though and get away with that. So
I paid 100. Yeah. Yeah, I think most people fucking did but the
the idea that regardless of whether you're playing that game for
Majority is it it's the online aspect rather than campaign a free hour campaign is abysmal
It is very very
shit
and
Yeah using the same apps you do have to question how much because it took them a year to do it
Which is not a long time to create a brand new game
They normally manage it but they have different studios working on it, right? Yeah, then they have infinity ward. They have
Raven they have
Sledjammer. Yeah, they have multiple studios for different ones. I modern warfare black ops
Yep, but obviously they've gone from modern warfare 2 to modern warfare 3. They don't normally do that. They normally go back
Yeah, look around. Yeah, I mean or then they'll go to like World War 2 and yeah
So there's normally like a gap but this one's just gone modern warfare 2 modern warfare 3
And obviously they're trying to integrate everything into war zone. So it's a big it's a big ask. It's a big task in
I don't really know how it all works. I feel like
in my opinion because I played it a fucking shit on
World War 2 was such an underrated
Call of Duty that that that game was fucking incredible the the boot camp where you could run around with everyone and then the
What was the what was the mode called the war mode or something? What was the one where you you could build shit?
You could reinforce walls and things like that. I didn't really play
I don't really play the older ones the world war ones, but I is it not zombies
What do you mean? Well, that's the that's where you know, no, no, no, no, they had a I can't remember what it's called
Because it was a while ago. They had a they had a game mode where it was
It
But it was like
Obviously opposing teams and like one team would be pushing one would be defending and then vice versa
But it was like large-scale
Warfare and you could build walls and shit and and and things to try and stop tanks from you'd have to capture
there'd be like
Like League of Legends type shit where you've got you've got certain roots like say free designated roots
But if you're pushing you can capture one of those roots and then that's once you've captured it pushes that team back
I'm back. No, I know you mean that on battlefield. No
Yeah, yeah, but they had it on World War two and it was fucking incredible and the building side of it was really good
Don't know not like fortnight where you could run around fucking just build shit
It was designated areas as to where you could really do it. Yeah, but it just it was just so much more
So so simple. It made the game mode itself feel way more in-depth
It was it was far more involved and some of them were quite long games
It just bugs me that they've got this they've got that style of building in MW3 and everyone's are this is so incredible
It's an it's an old thing that they've already done
It's just I feel like people have slept on that game so much that they've forgotten that they've got that in there
Yeah, I don't know. I've only just played random my way play. I played like three. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen and it sounds like
building Lego, okay, I don't know why it's got that sound effect on it was like
It's weird. Yeah
I'm satisfied. Yeah, it's very odd
Yeah, yeah good shit I
Tell you what I don't like about it how fucking big is
That's what pissed me off how I don't want to talk about it. It's infuriated me literally
That to download right I had an update the other day
I'll tell you exactly what it was because I sent it into the warzone death squad
It's the warzone death squad no fucking about was on desk or just a little update
108
gigabytes
And also another one queued after that and then when I got into it then it downloaded three more fucking things
I had to delete cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate the only thing that I have on my PlayStation is
PlayStation is
Astro's playroom and
more zone
What do you mean? That is it? It's so fucking big it takes up like 208 gig
Yeah, but your PlayStation's a terabyte no PS 5. It's on a PS 5 800 and then after the shit
It's like 600 and something I'm telling you now so how my PlayStation is full
to the brim of what of
Call of Duty
Exactly all and FIFA sorry I got Call of Duty FIFA and Astro's playroom
I had to delete Baldur's Gate ratchet and clank fortnight
What?
And that's you done with Baldur's Gate then no no no not and I've still got Daisy and all them ones
Yeah, the ps4 so they're on the hard drive thing that I got yeah
But annoyingly I was actually gonna play Baldur's Gate whilst this downloaded
I was like you know fuck it. I'm gonna jump on this and then I couldn't because I had to delete it and
I ended up playing Daisy instant
Which was quite the experience. I was robbed for a shovel
But yeah, it's just it's the fucking size of it
I think it's I think what it basically re downloads because it's all from it's all in one thing now right so
Call of Duty is now on like a hub so if you go on to warzone
You can go in and you've got all the Call of Duty's you can play Call of Duty
Vanguard fucking two modern warfare 3 yeah all that shit you access it all from one hub
so I think what it did was like redownload all the files for that and apparently you're supposed to
Squash the files compress all the files now, and it won't be as big as you downloaded
But fucked if I know man it pissed me off anyway because I wanted to play a bit of a bit of Baldur's Gate
You know I can't believe you've had to delete so much shit. I know piss me off as well. I don't understand
But you know it won't be long. I'll get sick of cod and it'll be deleted
And then I'll be back on the back on the normal stuff
I can't work out why the download is so fucking large. That's why it's crazy
It's crazy. I really can't I don't understand it. I really don't the graphics are nuts the the amount of modes there are
Yeah, but the graphics are good of fortnight, but they've also integrated everything into one thing so that must that must take up some memory
I don't know how it works there their updates have always been ridiculously large
But I gotta say the multiplayer what I played felt great
and
Yeah, I can't wait to play some more, but do you think it's worth the money?
So far they're never worth the money
I'm aware of that. They're never worth the money are they yeah, because they're done after a year
I'll work you put in is just dead on arrival having said that
All the stuff and this is the first time I've ever done that all the stuff that you've got now is in modern warfare 3
So all the skins I've got from warzone and now I can play as all the skins that I've got
All the guns that I've got from all the old modern warfare all can play with them in that in modern warfare 3
So everything is transferable for the first time ever. So if you was doing I don't know not that I ever do it
But if you were grinding out all the camos to then unlock like the Orion camo or something from modern warfare 2
You'll be in the same position on modern warfare 3 so you can carry on that grind
You know, I mean so most like how a DLC would work. Yeah
Yeah, it's funny really how it's all linked together
But yeah in that respect, I mean if they could keep that going forward then great didn't they didn't didn't they do the opposite of that
with warzone
Yeah, where you had everything on the first warzone and then when they put out the second one none of it carried over
Yeah, so warzone one two wars until you lost everything
Yeah, but then obviously warzone 3 is coming out
And everything's carrying over but
What I want them to do is go down a fortnight route and stop calling it warzone one two and three
Just call it fucking warzone and then have all your stuff. Stop losing all my shit. All right, you can't have
Like skins that you've bought for guns. All right. Well, don't make them gun exclusive make them skin exclusive
So if I want this skin on this weapon, I can put it on. Yeah. Yeah, that's what's fucking stupid
So then I got what they got their gun their gun exclusive
Of course they are. So on fortnight if you if you get a gun wrap it goes on all the guns
Yeah, obviously, there's only like, you know, seven eight guns at a time core duties got like fucking 60 or something
Yeah, but they could still do that. You could keep the wraps. I mean, of course you can just wrap the guns man or whatever
But yeah, obviously if the guns change fine, but let me keep the camos that I've paid for
Yeah, yeah, so if they could go down that route stop calling it warzone one two, three, whatever
I just call it warzone reboot it and be done with that and then just keep it if it updates
All right, but this is your account and you've got all this attached
Or some sort of fucking reimbursement scheme because the amount of fucking money people spend not me in particular. I
Only bought the battle pass. I didn't buy any skins
And yeah, the amount of money people have spent and what I spent on warzone one you get nothing back for it
I know it's an online game, but fuck me. You've got to give something back to the player base
Otherwise, eventually they'll stop. Mm-hmm. Did you see the
That new
Mount that got released on Diablo 4 I was literally just about to say
Did you see the Diablo announcement?
Which I probably did because I was yes on the expansion and now that's getting people pretty gassed up, you know
Yeah, well, I'm sure the 60 quid mount probably is that what it was. I didn't see there's a there's a mount that's
It's not there's a there's a mountain where warcraft called invincible that drops off of the lich king and it's a very sought-after mount
It takes a lot of runs to do it talking hundreds if you're if you're not lucky
I think it's like a nought point something percent drop chance for some shit like that
Where they brought brought it out on Diablo 4 but not invincible
It's like kind of looks like it. I don't know if it's called invincible or not. But yeah, either way. I think it was like
1700
1700 whatever but basically the gems or whatever the currency is to fucking purchase the thing in order to buy them would cost you
60 quid was like $65 so
People were saying that it cost more than what Starcraft
Costs so there is an entire games worth of money for a mount
Which I find fucking mental for Diablo 4 game where you've already had to pay 70 quid to play it. Yes men
The thing is with things like that
They're catered to a certain player and them certain players will buy it. Mm-hmm. So
Anything is I'm not being funny. I'll pay this I'll buy the season pass on Marvel stat. Mm-hmm
Ten pound a month basically. Yeah, essentially it's a subscription
Right some people will feel that that is
extortion
I feel that's not value for money if it's if if you if it's affordable for you, then you don't feel that way
Yeah, you know, so there's big rich people that just be I'll pay that fuck it
Yeah, if you wanna yeah
Well, conveniently the only people that are fucking buying that other streamers it being paid to fucking play Diablo 4 exactly all the very rich
People that are just like yeah fine. I have loads of expendable cash. That is fine to me
So although it's ludicrous, there will be people that buy it and also
You and me are suckers for oh, well, there's this exclusive thing
That's gonna go away and I want everyone to go. Oh, where'd you get that from? And I can't get it. No, it's gone forever
To be fair you bought shit. You bought that dragon flight thing for a runner
I don't know why I'm whinging about it because I literally bought Diablo 4 for the amount that you get in WoW
Which was 60 quid. But people would find that mental
Yeah, you know, I find it a little bit mental, but I also understand it's called the amalgamation of rage
Exactly a cool name for a fucking mount and it's a big wolf thing with three heads and fucking fiery wings
I've got that and I yeah, cuz you bought you bought Diablo 4 as well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah sick
You know what I mean?
It's the way it is bro. It is the way it is
Like the same with battle pass stuff. There's so much FOMO invite in involved with that shit
Yeah, you never like battle pass stuff never gets released as like content in the store
So once you miss out on battle pass stuff, you're fucking is over for you
Yeah
So that's where certain games get you by the ghoulies ie
Stood fortnight, right? So the Darth Vader skin
The Darth Vader skin the only way you could get it was to get to the end of the battle pass
Yeah, never been a Darth Vader skin before you can't get it. No more. He's all over it. Just for daft. I just for Darth Vader
so and same with the Mandalorian the Mandalorian was in the battle pass once and
I got him but you could do missions to upgrade his armor
So his armors like shit, but you can upgrade it to like best guy armor
Which is like the Mandalorian is like shiny stuff. I've done a couple of missions
So I've got like a shoulder pad and saying like best guy, but the rest is not
Well, I can't get him in best guy armor anymore. The mission is not there
I mean and I'll never be able to so you see Mandalorian is running around with a shiny armor and I'm like sadness
There's nothing you can do FOMO make me throw money at game. It's smart. It's smart business
Cuz it's
Fucking hate it exactly and that's why that's why you addicted to one walker off
Nobody is though. This is why I'm addicted to destiny
I've played every expansion apart from the newest one which ain't out yet, but it's why I'm addicted is because it's a vertical
Progression rather than horizontal. So it's always
Always going out of date. You always have to keep grinding and grinding whereas things that are that are horizontal
they they plateau and
Once you hit a certain level you don't have to keep grinding for shit anymore
You can stop it and pick it up whenever you want and it makes very little difference
Which is nice, but when you're addicted to a game that gives you serious FOMO
It's a very difficult itch to scratch when you're playing a game that doesn't force you to grind anything
I hate grinding. I love grinding. I hate it, but I love it at the same time
That's that's my mental. It's a love hate
So I win when I'm having to grind for something because I'm fucking know this is long
But then I wait when I when I reach the end goal of what I am grinding for it's euphoric
Whereas but then you're bored. You don't know what to do. I know so then you have to grind something else
So when I'm playing a game where it's not forcing me to grind for anything
I don't feel like I'm almost feel like I'm wasting my time. I've had this discussion
I know why I don't like single-player, but then I win about games that make it feel like it's extra work
I don't want to work on to enjoy myself. I can't do that unless I'm grinding but that pisses me off
You didn't like playing single-player games because you feel like once it's done. It's done. It's done
It's done. It's done
Depends on the game if it grabs me it grabs me but like say for example like Starfield
I liked it. It's a cool game weren't interested in it because I knew at the end of it
I'm not gonna be interested in playing new game plus. It's not my jam and
Once it's done, it's done
I don't love it enough to to wanna the last of us and things like that
Yeah, 100% because I'm invested in the story if it's got decent story. I'm all over it. But when it's
When it's something like that, I don't know. It's a weird one stuff was more of a sandbox
There's not a linear kind of don't grip you like last of us. No them narrative driven like God of War
They're different basis speaking of sandbox
Speaking of sandbox, oh
You got one we're gonna play in it. Well fucking announcement trailer. We in December. Ah
What I fucking tell you
Well four o'clock in the morning. I text you that you did. What was you up so early for? I wasn't nice
Oh, yeah, is that the time you got back? I don't know
confusing time
Did they ring you the night before did they like wake you up? Oh
I was told the day of
Alright that you was gonna be back in now. Fair enough
Was it you was told the day of that you were gonna be in for an emergency later on basically that makes perfect sense
I mean emergency, you know
It's a broad word unquote. Yeah, it's a bit of a they just pulled you in it
Yeah, December
December for an announcement trailer for GTA 6
big big boys, yeah, I
Read that and got excited and then
sad
Because when I read more into it and it said the first trailer I was like god, here we go
Yeah, here comes ten different trailers. How many of these are we gonna be waiting for now? I'm hoping
Well, I'm not hoping I'm almost certain
That you know, they'll they'll they'll do the trailer
With a release date I'm gonna say they're gonna do a release date, but it'll just say 2024 I'm gonna say
Yeah, they do the trailer
Release date. I'm gonna say that it says early
2024
I don't see early. I don't see early and then I hope so and then I reckon
January or end of January beginning of February will be a second trailer
Which will have a big slightly more in depth and show a little bit more and then that will have a release date on that trailer
Which would have been leaked six weeks before the trailer comes out in GTA 6. We decide to reinvent the open world
That's when they announced that you can carry over all your shit from current like GTA or not
No, please don't do that. That's never happening. Oh fucking hell
Yeah, no, that's I was saying to Steph when they when they announced it. I was like that is going to
completely
Absorb the world. That's gonna break the internet
Yeah of any and Steph was like whatever shit and I said it can't be it won't be it can't be it just won't be it's impossible
You cannot have something like
the the Grand Theft Auto series and then
the detail and in-depthness of
Red Dead Redemption 2 and
Produce something shit. You just can't do it. You can't do it. That's like saying South Park
Will make a shit episode. It won't cuz shit's funny. It's just funny is the good it the
A lot of people don't like Red Dead 2 but them same people will understand and respect that it's still fucking impressive
Yeah, if you don't like Red Dead 2, that's absolutely fine
But the details in it are incredible you can watch an NPC build a log house
But you can watch them eat their dinner and then wash the plates up when you when you smash a bottle
You can zoom in on the photo mode and see reflections of what that bottle is
Reflecting at you can smash a bottle in someone's face and then there will be shards of glass in their skull. Yeah
You know, no, they're deep. I
Someone did something heinous to me on that game
very heinous
He bum raped me I believe
Have you been to that house?
What? No!
You go to a house and they're like, hey you coming here?
What a goofy bum rap show
I see some big fat mess and then I think it's his sister or something
Mark
Weird and shit bro, and then they're like hey you want to eat some dinner and then you eat and then they're like
Hey, you want to eat some dinner and then you eat and then you pass out and then they're like
Squirrel piggy or something they do some weird shit. Yeah, so I went back to that house
I shot the woman and then I fucking shot the geezer in his leg tied him up and fed him to an alligator
Decent
Crocodile whatever it was, heinous, heinous crime
Nice, but yeah, that's a that's that's a game man. That is that's very impressive. I don't think they'll go
Red dead with it. No, because a lot of people are like I was too it's too much fucking bollocks
Like opening drawers, shutting drawers and I get it. I like that style, but it was a bit after
Oh fucking just open the drawer man. I mean
I think I have the utmost faith in GTA 6 in Rockstar in creating that
I just I just can't see them
With how well they did with GTA 5 and how long they've had with GTA 6
everything
Their resources the people that they've got within the company. I just can't see it being
Awful, it's never gonna be awful. You might not be up to people's expectations because things never do
We have I don't even know what expectations are. Well, they'll just be ridiculous
Whatever they say people are gonna elevate. Yeah, but I genuinely don't know what I I do not have any
Expectations for GTA 6 other than it's gonna be very good
I think it's gonna be better than GTA 5 but I don't know what I'm looking for what I'm expecting what I'll be upset with
What did we say last time we said all the things we would like, you know, like I said
No, we did not enough interactivity in the world. It's all very very pretty lot of detail. You can't do a lot
Oh, I've said a state agency didn't I?
Being able to buy and sell houses and do them up and have a housing market
So you could sell to other players and shit like that. We was talking about imagine if that's in there
Yeah, all the heists and stuff and how they can make them better. Yeah
Yeah, you know I mean like getting people as I said getting people online and used about job roles
Hmm, you know I mean and then hiring someone online in a lot
We said a lot good things exactly. So that's all we say that episode off
Okay, so copyright that sort of quickly implement this
Build this really extravagant fucking thing in five minutes at this system in place
Yeah, so there's a lot they can do but whatever they say they'll be like, oh you can
Fucking own an airport and fucking run it as if everyone does in real life
People will be like, oh wonder if you can fly to
Australia and then obviously you can't but that's what sort of shit people come out with and then they're disappointed when it's yeah, they'll go
What do you want? What do you exactly? So whatever they announce people elevate and speculate on I just can't wait for the GTA Battle Pass
Yeah, it's gonna be fantastic. I just imagine man that that that'll break YouTube the game when it comes out or just
There'd be a lot of people not work by that way grown adults. I mean, I remember GTA 1
I remember being really young and playing it and I was fascinated that I could burp and fart
And there'd be like rows of people walking around like going or ho ho pretending to be Elvis
Oh, yeah, yeah run them over and get bonus points in that and I was I was in I was in for
I was fascinated by it. So look where it is now
Remember GTA 3 coming out and my mom's friend would bring his PlayStation round and I'd I'd play it and I just
Couldn't get enough. I was just I was obsessed with GTA 3. It was 3d
It was like it felt obviously now you look back or you go play it and you can see you know
Not a great deal of their limitations, but at that time at my age
It felt like the possibilities were endless. I could do anything. I mean so
Ned God knows what they're gonna do. Honestly, it's gonna be it's gonna be mad bro. Love it or hate it
It's gonna it's gonna blow up the internet
I'm interested to see who they cast
It'll just be it probably just be nobody's like the other people were nobody's and obviously now they're
you know famous voice actors and
especially
Stephen Og
Yeah legend, especially Roger Clark who done Arthur Morgan. Mm-hmm
What a voice that guy's got but he's in a lot of things now very nice fellow
You'd be surprised about voice actors and how much shit they were in that you don't realize they're actually in
Correct and a lot of times for a lot of people a video game is
Is the big break that they weren't expecting to be a big break never used to be no
Whereas now it can it can really fucking blow shit out of the water you think
fucking Michael Gambon in ESO
Throughout the whole thing vestige. It's fantastic
So there's Patrick Stewart was in Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Yeah, yeah, I remember
Don't know if it was with you on the pod or if it was with Steph on the pod when we was talking about ESO
And I went through the the voice actor list and there was some
Serious people on there that you just wouldn't think were even like so I can't remember the names of them
But some real decent not a list as but close to it that were just like voiced random NPCs
There was just random bits of dialogue knocking around the world
So I've got these people just doing NPCs. Who the fuck have you got doing all the main shit?
Voice acting is a cool one. I think as well though like a lot of
Actors or you know adults now
They grew up playing games. They're my age, you know, they're 30s 40s, whatever
But they're this is the age of people who grew up playing computer games
So yeah, people want to do it because you know, look at fucking Henry Cavill. What a nerd
He does a lot for nerds
Massive handsome geezer as fuck exactly. So, you know, he'd happily do gaming. You're you're
You're right with that. It's um, you know
The world of gaming is no longer like oh scary
This is gonna make my kids into serial killers. It's it's not
Gaming is is such a big part of a lot of people's lives now
It's not some new spangled fucking mysterious thing that's gonna turn you into the devil
It's um, it's very well integrated into everyday life
And yeah people people now they're not
Age we've we've grown up on gaming
It's more surprising now if someone ain't got playstation or something. It's very odd
When I when I when I interact with people that don't game, I think what do you what do you do?
What what what do you do when you want to relax or what do you what do you think about?
I don't understand what it is that you do like people who just like to run
What do you do? They run
Steph sister's husband he loves running fantastic guy. I love him alec
But he doesn't he's not a gamer and I just think what would you do? It supports west ham
Geyser, but I just think I was like what what people do that? I know quite a lot of people that just aren't
Into gaming whatsoever and there's nothing wrong with it. I just as a full-time gamer
Couldn't understand or comprehend
Not to understand
Understand or comprehend?
Not gaming. I don't understand what you do. I I
This isn't me being ignorant. What is that?
Don't know if it feels like it's gonna get us
What is that humming? It's ufo
Something big's coming for us. What is that? I don't know. Let me pause it to figure out what the fuck that is
The busing has stopped
What was we talking about I have no fucking idea it was uh gta maybe sorry about gta
Pardon me, what happens when you have a two-hour break?
We can say we spent how long as we want. Yeah
uh
um
Yeah, that's that then isn't it yeah, whatever we was talking about gta
If we was in the middle of a story, we've completely forgotten it and you'll never hear the end. Sorry. Sorry about that
It's god. No, we can't be bothered to listen back and carry on. No, we're not professional. Yeah, we're not doing that
Uh been playing marvel snap had a lot of discussion with kyle. I don't know if you've noticed
Yeah, I see like fucking 60 odd replies in one thread. Yeah, we've been talking
Um, I wish you'd shut the fuck up. Yeah
I like it. I like it. I didn't read any of it. We bounced my ideas off each other
Uh, you tried to help me get to infinite rank. It didn't help
Is he better than you? Yeah, he is really. Yeah, he's better than me. That's depressing. Isn't it? That is what it is
Is what it is cost more money. He's paid more money than me. He's got more cards than me
But yeah, no, he's clearly better than me. I've never got to infinite rank. The trouble is with me
I get really bad anxiety if i'm like say i'm one win away from
My god, i'm just like, oh yeah, i can't shake your hand. I'll make them dumbest decisions ever
Um, so yeah, i'm not good at that and and if I lose
I'll be like fucking cunt. I'll turn it off. I'll be fuming or i'll play 10 games in a row angry and lose all 10
And be miles away again. Have you had a look at warcraft rumble?
No, but is that the game that I meant to talk to you about?
I don't know was it? Yeah the mobile game. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I meant to talk to you about that
I heard a lot of people advertising it because it was at police con. Yeah, um, and I heard it's like
Like the most egregious money thing ever more egregious even like pisses all over diablo immortal
How egregious that is?
so allegedly
You get to a you can play it's fine. Do all the pve perfectly fine you do any pvp
It's just essentially infinite money
So the only way this person because I was told I heard on a marvel snap podcast
Who plays a lot of mobile games?
And he said unless they've changed it because he played it in the beta
Um, and the only way he could describe how to how it like would compare in a card game. So, you know
There's a card in marvel snap called elsa bloodstone just say that so he used that for example if i'm playing you
Uh, we've both got elsa bloodstone. Yeah costs two energy to play and she's got two power mine costs two energy to play
And it's got two power
So right, we both got the same card. All right
if you play
This warzone rumble or whatever the fuck it's called warcraft rumble
I could have elsa bloodstone
Two costs two power you could have elsa bloodstone two costs 46 power
Because you spent more money
And there's nothing you can do about that unless you spend money and that was the way it was described
Is that and there's like an infinite ceiling so you can like basically just pay to have
X troop, whatever it is better than next person's troop and it all just comes down to how much money they've spent
But this is pvp only you can um
You can upgrade the cards
So they've got a store in there, but it it rotates every couple of hours or something like that. Um
and
You you have your cards and it's not a card game. Is it I know nothing about it? No, but well I say cards
They're like, um your your characters as such. Is it like clasher clans?
Kind of yeah kind of but not at the same time. The the premise is is there's a map
They're all different ones. Um, and there's a boss at the end of it that you need to get to and kill
And then obviously you've got like your kind of like spawn beacon and certain like characters cost like five
blips whatever some cost two come some cost one shit like that and
They like you spend them and then they gradually recharge over time
um, and obviously the boss is sending waves of enemies your ways
Points in between the map is like turrets that you can destroy and then they become new spawn points and you can drop your shit
There and and just the aim of the game is to get to the end and kill the boss. That's it
It's very very simple. Um, obviously every character has their own different abilities and brings different shit to the table
um
And you can chop and change all that shit. Um, like I say very simple
what you can do
is upgrade the characters at which
I believe you need
um
Like not gems or you need something to be able to upgrade them and in the store every now and then
Something that you already own will pop up and you can buy it and it buys like a part of that upgrade
But you still need a certain currency to be able to
Completely level it up
Which I would imagine is the currency that they're talking about where you can purchase it and then it enables you to just keep upgrading your
your
characters
So I guess yeah, maybe you're speaking from a pve perspective with the boss at the end
I'm guessing so where you said when it comes to the pvp when it comes to the pvp
It's just the same shit except for rather than a boss at the end. It's just another player. All right, okay
Yeah, so I don't know. I know nothing about i've seen like images of it. Uh, and that's what I heard
Um, unless they've changed it. It's the it's the worst money grab
Sink is ever seen in a game a lot worse than diablo immortal
And I don't know how bad diablo immortal was only from what you were saying. Diablo immortal was bad and what youtube is saying
I also think
Number one, it's a mobile game
What are you whinging for?
Let's let's be real if you're
But so is immortal. I know and you winched about that
I did whinge about it
But I didn't fucking make youtube videos and all that shit about it complaining. I just fucking would if you had an audience
I wouldn't I just stopped playing the game and you'd bitch about it. You'd bitch about that shit on here bro. Come on now
This isn't fun anymore, but I feel like
kind of if
If you're whinging that hard about it it is it's free
It's free. He wasn't whinging about it. He was just saying look if you want to play it, that's fine
PvE is great. Yeah, the pvp is great, but when you get to pvp just be aware that this is how it was in beta
I don't know if it still is so what he's saying is fair really he was just saying no
Yeah, it's fair. I'm not defending it, but it's also what did you expect after diablo immortal?
What would you expect them to bring out?
Warcraft rumble and then it'd be entirely free or very minimal fucking spending of course
They're gonna try and fucking squeeze you for some pennies
This is true
But as you always said to me the other day about marvel snap being pay to win
And I said about all mobile games are free to play is pay to win though
Because it has to be some level of pay to win or not necessarily pay to win, but they have to earn their money
It's free. I think it's just fucking mobile games that are paid to win
Well, they're the easiest ones to grab you aren't they because they're always in your fucking pocket there
I'm having a shit. Well, let's fucking have a game of full time gaming with mobile. It's weird. Anyway, it is odd
It's a strange thing to to be
To be doing I can appreciate that other there'd be a lot of people out there that just can't afford to do anything
Other than mobile game or they don't have access to the facilities to have a console. I'm not digging at you for that
It's just weird. It's a weird concept
I mean, I play a lot of marvel snap
So I bet there's certain games that I think are fine and probably more suited to mobile i.e marvel snap
Um, but if it was like, oh you can play the witcher on your phone. I'll be like no, thanks
I'm good dylan that guy the one that connor works with he's a full-time mobile gamer
And he has one of those weird controller things that you put on your phone
And he just plays like genshin impact and shit like that on his phone even that and I think
Buy a switch steam deck, but there's shit out there now where you can fucking you can
Mobile you can have a lot of handheld stuff. That's portable. You ain't got to just be using your phone
It's weird
I think it's odd if there's any if there's ever anything in terms of gaming that I feel like you could get rid of
And gaming would survive quite comfortably. I would say it would be mobile gaming
Yeah, mobile gaming has got its own little this is his own little thing man. It's his own little nice though
You know, it's thriving. Yeah, of course. It's thriving. It's decent when it first come about it was uh, it was an odd thing
But nowadays it's his own little ecosystem. You've got big old gaming phones and shit like that. There's there's there's a lot of shit. Um,
so
Yeah, it's just um
I haven't played warcraft rumble for a while. I played it for a couple of days after it come out. I enjoyed it
Um, he's played it. Yeah. Yeah
uh
Probably a couple days before blizzcon. All right, so you have
Yeah, yeah, I played a decent amount of it done some pvp but mainly pve
Um, and yeah, it's it's fine. It's fun. I like it. Would I spend money on it? No, is it do I really stuff?
Is it like yeah characters? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah with their own little like, um
It's leeway jenkins in it. No, you are
I don't think so, but leeway jenkins isn't actually a character in well. He is he is in uh, hearthstone. They
threw an npc in I think
Something jenkins and you can get the title jenkins in in hearthstone. He's a card and he's powerful as fuck
Oh is he is he a card?
Jenkins had him. I don't know whether he's usable anymore
I remember I remember a clip from blizzcon years ago when that was like the height of it and they got him up on stage
To do leeway jenkins is so cringe. I watched the video. Oh
Shut the fuck up sit down
Uh, you know shit when you do something cool and funny or
Something memorable in a game
Keep it in the game
Keep that in the game because when you try and remake that in the open world
It just doesn't resonate the same way as when you're in a game. It's a special moment. You can't replicate it bro. You can't
Yeah, I remember getting the achievement though. You just had to do exactly what he did
He ran into an area where there was like a load of whelp eggs like dragon eggs
And the minute you touch them, they spawn a little whelpling
Um, and he just ran in and basically ran over every single egg
He pretty much could spawn in a shit ton of enemies and just wipe the entire raid
and the achievement was you had to go to that exact same raid to that exact same room and
Run over every single egg and then kill them
Oh
Yeah, so you had to kill him. He didn't he didn't yeah you had to kill him
Um, so it's like a big speech than he before he goes in. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, there's like a whole group of them and then they're two. I I think
I think it was a spoof
No, i'm not sure because
being a being a
A veteran at wow I had no idea what the first geezer was fucking talking about ways
I've calculated our survival rate and it's like
30.87 percent survival channels. Where are you getting that from? Where are you? Where are you?
And yeah, maybe maybe it was true and they were just like role playing with it. I don't know
Funny anyway, yeah decently. I know nothing about wow and I found it funny. It was that that was a fucking epic moment
Yeah that when they released the the title of that
So it would be like like my main character's called Cadbury cow and it'd be like Cadbury cow jenkins and shit like that
It's it's um
It must feel good to have that as like your favorite game
And then you've done something so iconic that they've shoved your fucking name
In the game so that every single character is able to have your fucking name
attached to theirs
That must feel quite special quite cool
decent
Yeah
What was I going to talk about? I don't know my lethal company
Oh, yeah that classic squid eating game
I'm telling you now this game is fucking terrifying
It's probably the longest horror
Longest amount of time that i've spent playing a horror game that is genuinely fucking scary. It's horrible
I hate it, but I love it at the same time
You are just an employee
That can group up to a maximum of four people
Oh, it's very cartoony. Yeah
Oh, it's very cartoony. Yeah. Yeah, the graphics are cool, man, and um, you land on various different moons
In your ship
And in your ship is a terminal
Where it has like a store and you can buy things like a flashlight a stun gun
Stun grenades and and a boom box
Or furniture and shit to kit out your ship. They don't do anything. Um, but it's just fun
you can change the you wear like a
Like a overall suit like a hazmat kind of suit and you can change the colors and shit where you got to pay for them
and basically the premise is
You land on these moons and whatever you land on you've got four days
And you can move to a different moon if you want to but it takes a day away
and
There's a timer. It's all like a day and night cycle and it's you know
Like the traditional it's at like eight o'clock and then every like two seconds it will go up by like 10 minutes type shit
and um
You basically need to come out your ship
And then there's buildings like big old fucking warehouse. There's normally like two entrances
and
You go in there
And half of it's like it's all corridors and shit with all closed doors and stuff like that and it's pitch black
And there's some lighting but not a lot
And the idea is that you pick up scrap
There's just bits of scrap knocking around that you have to find and take back to your ship
And then after the four days you go to a place called the company building and you sell your scrap and you've got to meet a
quota
Every four days and if you don't meet that quota you get
Ejected out of the ship into space and you you die and then rinse and repeat but you lose all of your shit when you die
so if you've bought a lot of stun guns walkie talkies and stuff like that and you there's like a
like a cabinet in your ship where you can store your stuff if you
Come to the end of the four days haven't reached your quota. It all resets and you fucking lose it all start all over again
um
But in the buildings and outside the building sometimes depending on the map
Are creatures i'm talking weird spider looking things some weird bug thing called a um hoarding bug
That's like a weird like mosquito thing
Some fucking thing killed me and connor yesterday. It was a big glowing eyes big black thing that just like darted around the room
There's a there's a jack in the box with legs that winds up and then a fucking skull comes out and chases you
There's all horrible things, but it's
it's um
What's the what it was it's uh
proximity chat oh yeah, and it's a fantastic proximity chat
But it's creepy man because you'll be like walking around all like sick
Walking around all like stealthily with your flashlights on and you'll just hear a door creak shut
Or open or you'll hear like footsteps or a little girl laughing and things like that and you don't know
You don't know where anything is
um
And yeah, just out of nowhere. There's there's mannequins where if you're not looking at them, they'll chase after you
So if you turn around like a split second you turn back and it'll be like right at your face
Shit's horrible, man. You you can get like shovels and stuff to kind of attack back
But from what i've seen you you ain't doing much with it
Um, and there's some enemies that will kill you in one hit. There's some that'll take a couple hits to get you
But yeah, you got to pick up scrap and take it back to your ship
And you've got x amount of time to do it
um
And yeah, I don't think that you can
Properly heal yourself and all that shit, but it's just funny man. It was eight quid on steam
Um lethal company. It's got overwhelmingly positive reviews
very very fun
Um when you sell your scrap, I was saying to ash, um this morning
You there's a bell
You ring a bell you put it on a shelf and you ring a bell and there's a shutter
You keep ringing it and then this big old fucking squid technical arm thing comes out and eats it and takes the scrap
And then you get a paycheck
I didn't realize if you keep fucking dinging it it takes you
It gets pissed off and fucking kills you and then takes you or if someone's died you can pick them up leave them on your ship
And then sell sell them
So I like I said to ash I battered con around the head with a stop sign and then sold him for a fiver
It's fantastic. I left that in the review
It's great really fucking fun
Boring if you're on your own, I'd imagine
But in a group of people i'd love to do it where there's like a full group
Because that must be hilarious
Absolutely fantastic we um
We bought walkie talkies
And they made it a lot more fun because in your ship you can um
Monitor each player like from an aerial views type camera thing
And it's just like color things are like the character themselves are like blue
And then it gives you an aerial view of the area they're in
So if you go into the building you can see sort of the map and direct them a bit better
And you can see where the scrap is but you can also see where the enemies are and things like that
um
And then we was like because when you die
If if anyone else is alive, they can't hear you because obviously you're dead
So we was like, oh well
We'll get around that and have like going to discord so that when we die
Push to talk and you can still talk to each other completely ruins the immersion
Completely spoiled it so we've set a rule now. We don't do that
But no discord because then it meant that you didn't have to buy walkie talkies or anything like that
um
So yeah for the sake of eight quid I would have been quite happy paying probably like 20 quid maybe a push 30
Because it's just a laugh man
It's just a fun little game that you just piss around on and there's maps
Some maps are free and some you've got to pay for like the in-game like scrap value shit
um
To go to them and we don't know if after you've bought them that's then permanently unlocked or if you've got to buy them
Every single time to get there
But there's like a mansion and shit that we haven't like on a map that we haven't been to yet. So
There's some shit to explore, but it's just terrifying man. It's genuinely scary
like proper
screaming type
It's horrible. I hate it. Well, I love the fact that you've had a lot of fun with it
um
You know cheers for my invite must have got lost in the post
You don't play on pc, but I could you could I said I said to you this morning
Yeah after you've already experienced it. We could have all experienced this together. We can still experience it together
I just told you it's only me and connor at the moment and brandon's got it haven't played with him yet, though
It's motherfucking over because i'm only interested in boulder's gate and call of duty
That game that you haven't even got installed on your fucking playstation anymore. Yeah, that's not my choice
Well, it is my choice, but it won't stay like that. Yeah much like the witcher that is going to be
The only game that just stays on my playstation forever
So yeah, I mean that's probably us I mean it's been a fantastic episode
I've had a fantastic time, but I really must do the patreon so I can play call of duty
Okay, so obviously there's gonna be more content because we love that fucking word content so much content hours and hours of just pure
fantastic content