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This is episode 54.

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I have hit record.

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This is 54.

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100% I believe this to be 54.

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What is it?

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Yes, 54.

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Look at me with the knowledge.

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It's almost like I run this podcast.

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Isn't that great?

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Isn't that fantastic?

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Do I have any gaming orientated stuff to talk about?

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Not really.

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It's been a bit of a...

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Saying that, no.

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It hasn't been a lax of days of call week.

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One of the biggest things that I can probably pinpoint

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that's happened is Microsoft putting all of the Call of Duty

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servers back online.

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Oh wow.

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All of them.

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I honestly thought you were gonna say rear ended.

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Being rear ended.

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No, not about my car crash.

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If you wanna hear about that, subscribe.

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I spoke about that.

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Put the juice behind the paywall.

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On the Patreon episode.

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So if you want those juicy, juicy details

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with the pictures to follow,

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then you have to pay for that motherfuckers.

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But this COD stuff,

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they essentially fixed the servers.

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So people just in their droves have been going to

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like Black Ops 2 and all that time.

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And then old COD lobbies are back where everyone's being

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like extremely racist.

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It's just a...

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Nostalgia.

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It's a great time.

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Not the racism, the COD coming back is a great time.

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Let's not get that twisted.

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My people have returned.

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But I've seen like so many memes and shit of

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current war zone players as teenagers or older children.

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Where it's like, there's that scene from The Lion King

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where little Simba's on the bottom of the hill

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when the Wildebeest are running down.

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And above it, it says like a 14 year old kid

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playing Call of Duty and then like the Wildebeest

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are like 30 year old,

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like people that haven't been online for 10 years

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and like storming them.

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So yeah, it's cool to see that kind of shit.

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Probably another big win for Microsoft

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in the whole like Xbox, PlayStation debate.

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Because that's such a cool thing to be able to do

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rather than like coming out with like,

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we're gonna put this time and effort into remastering it

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or remaking it and then you've got to pay another fucking

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500 quid to play it, blah, blah, blah.

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Just to say, here's the servers back, off you pop.

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Have some fun.

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No nothing, nothing added, no updates, no patches,

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none of that shit.

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Just there you go, play those games, fuck off,

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have some fun.

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Which I think is really good, especially with-

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Do you want me to load it up?

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No, no, no, no, no, I'm fine.

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I'm all right, I'm all right.

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Yeah, because I don't think it's on the PC.

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I think it is purely like Xbox console.

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Oh yeah, you're welcome if you wanna have a go.

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No, I myself am not that interested.

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I'd rather keep the nostalgia than return to it.

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I'd rather just leave it alone.

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But it does look very entertaining.

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Obviously things like Warzone have become very stale

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from what I've seen, especially since they introduced

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the like stuff with the boys in.

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So you've essentially got like fucking Superman in it.

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It's sort of like, it's turned into Fortnite

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and kind of spoiled that whole vibe from what I'm seeing.

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And then speaking of games that have just collapsed,

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Diablo 4, it's gone.

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What do you mean?

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It's done, it's done.

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People have fucking pulled away from it.

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It's basically dead.

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A recent patch, are you Googling it?

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No, it's still there, it's gone.

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A recent patch come out where they essentially

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nerfed everything, but not like how normal nerfs work.

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So like reduce this spell by 5%,

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damage now does this rather than this.

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You're talking about a couple of percentages

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is when nerfs come in place.

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Or you get heavy nerfs where it's like reduced overall damage

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of this thing by 10% and stuff like that.

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The patch notes on this, 40%, 30% here,

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reduced by 50%.

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I think there's one where it's reduced by 65%.

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They reduced the amount of experience points

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that you gain, so it now takes even longer

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to level up on a game that was already incredibly grindy.

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They released items or an item that only basically

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the top 1% will be able to obtain.

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So it's like, right, that's great.

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But yeah, they basically just hit everything

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with these incredible, incredible damage reductions

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and nerfs, which meant that when people started playing

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like playing after this patch,

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their characters just felt like dog shit, extremely squishy,

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made the game a lot more harder than it used to be.

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Not that I feel like there was nerfs

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that were definitely needed 100%, as there always is.

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This is how these types of games work,

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especially live service games,

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there's always gonna be nerfs coming in play.

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And the way that it works best

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is by nerfing rather than buffing.

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Yeah, well, just reading here,

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people are saying it's like,

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they don't seem to realize the problem isn't

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there's nothing left to do after two weeks.

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It's the problem that after two weeks

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there's nothing really fun to do anymore.

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With these patch notes,

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they just have actively made it even less fun.

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There's so many things they could have done

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to alleviate the issue that people are having,

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and they've just done the exact opposite.

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And as I said, this clearest cut example

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of a bad game design I've ever seen.

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Instead of addressing the problem of not enough content,

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they've just padded out the current gameplay,

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which is already ridiculously padded out.

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And this game will be a ghost town by season two

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without a serious shift in direction.

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I told, I predicted that this type of shit would happen.

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I said this would happen.

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Experience bonus for killing monsters of higher levels

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and nerfed by around 90%.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, they really fucking hit it

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with a nerf hammer.

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Because that comment's right.

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They, Blizzard are so notorious for this shit now.

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We've been kind of lucky with it in Dragonfly

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where the stream of content has been quite decent.

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It's been quite high up and it has been very steady.

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So you're not really getting too bored

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with playing it at the moment.

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Unlike Shadowlands where it was extremely time gated.

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So it was so fucking boring,

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but you were forced to play it.

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Otherwise you'd fall too far behind.

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With Diablo 4, I knew instantly after playing it,

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I was like, it's just not gonna survive.

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I don't see this surviving

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because it's so unbelievably grindy.

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And then obviously that's nothing new

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when it comes to Diablo.

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But obviously with like the world of TikTok

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and Instagram reels and stuff like that,

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the intake of media and how easy it is to create videos

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to do with gaming and information and stuff like that.

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The amount of videos that I showed you

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and showed other people of most efficient way

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to get all the Lilith things

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and what dungeons you should be doing and in what order.

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And here's the best way to level 100 or to get to level 50.

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Everything's as quick as possible.

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Gotta do it as quick as possible.

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Which for a game like this

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where it is completely gated by seasons

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where everything resets back into a season,

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fucking reset for season two.

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That's how the game works.

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That rushing and getting everything done

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as quick as possible was always gonna be a killer

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for this game 100% because you're also battling the fact

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that the same people that were playing Diablo one,

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two and three are the same people playing Diablo four.

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And the only difference has happened is they've grown up.

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So now they have even less time

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to play these grindy games.

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So you do need the faster routes.

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If you want to be able to keep up and enjoy the game.

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And the issue of that is you end up with a game

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where you have to wait four months

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for a fucking season to come out for anything new to do

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but you've got everything done in two weeks.

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So it's like, what are you supposed to do?

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They've already, the content is coming in season one.

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So.

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Isn't that happening?

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That's already happened. I believe so, yeah.

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So what are you supposed to do when people rinse the game?

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You can't do anything and it don't get me wrong.

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It happens in World of Warcraft as well.

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People rinse it and then you sit there and you're like,

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right, well I'm done.

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The only difference being is that I don't have

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to completely restart my fucking account

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to do something new.

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I can just make another character.

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Everything's on the same platform.

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Whereas with Diablo, obviously the seasons,

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we spoke about it multiple times, how that works.

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And with those excruciating nerfs,

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it does feel like lazy development,

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but I don't know what they're supposed to do.

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Because what are you supposed to do?

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Anything that they throw in that game

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is going to get rinsed 100% straight away.

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You could create any content that's designed to last you

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on average three months, it's going to get done in a week.

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Because that's what people are like at the moment.

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And I feel like after all those patch notes

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and the stuff that's happened, it's not looking good.

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It's really not looking good for them.

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It's a bit dirty.

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I haven't seen Ash talk about it for a while.

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This is going to be my next,

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like it's going to take over from Destiny.

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And I told him, and I know he'll be listening.

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I told you, you're talking shit.

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I knew, I just know that the longevity of it is not there.

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It's not there for these types of games.

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It's too, yeah.

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It's Connor playing it at all?

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No, no.

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He was, wasn't it?

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He was, he was playing it.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I am kind of glad that I never got involved with it.

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Obviously I played it for a little bit.

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And I was like, yeah, this just isn't for me.

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Because I would be pissed off if I had like invested

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this time making a cool character, getting the gear,

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getting the rotations down and blah, blah, blah.

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Feeling nice and powerful.

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And then you log in and then boom,

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you're fucking gaining 90% less XP than you normally would.

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And then you're hitting fucking 50% less harder

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than you normally would.

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I feel like making a game harder

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through just straight up damage reduction

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isn't making the game harder.

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It's not the right way to do it.

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No, you're just making it more tedious and less satisfying.

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Yeah, especially-

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Oh, I mean, go on, no go on.

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Especially when it's a bunch of enemies

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that you have already tackled and you know how to kill them

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and you've killed them multiple times.

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And now nothing's changed.

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It's just that you don't hit as hard as you used to.

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So you already know there's no mystery here.

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These aren't new characters.

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There isn't new abilities.

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There isn't new mechanics.

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It is just straight up.

265
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You used to hit a hundred damage, now you do 40.

266
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So where's the fun in that?

267
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Because you remember what it was like,

268
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mowing them down.

269
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Yeah.

270
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So it's not even a skill-based thing.

271
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You've just made me fucking useless.

272
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Yeah, basically.

273
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Not looking good.

274
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I can't remember what I was gonna say now.

275
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My thoughts gone.

276
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I just don't know.

277
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No.

278
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Don't know.

279
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Are you smug?

280
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I wouldn't say it's smugness

281
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because I don't massively care.

282
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However, I just, I feel kind of bad for the,

283
00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:43,140
like the people in my guild, obviously on the discord,

284
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like for ages, it's all Diablo, not touching well.

285
00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:49,780
And I feel like they've invested so much time

286
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into like rinsing Diablo.

287
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And now it's just, nope, no point.

288
00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:56,900
Because I sent a message in and I just said like,

289
00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,900
Diablo four, like the eyes emoji.

290
00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:00,460
And they were like, don't talk about it.

291
00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:01,300
Oh no.

292
00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:02,740
Don't go there.

293
00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:04,780
So, all right, oh, not looking good then.

294
00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:06,420
No, no it's not.

295
00:12:06,420 --> 00:12:08,420
And is that because they wanna go?

296
00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:10,060
They don't wanna play it?

297
00:12:10,060 --> 00:12:11,340
They've run out of stuff or just-

298
00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:15,100
Yeah, they just got nothing to do.

299
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In a game where I just can't understand it.

300
00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:21,580
If you've done all the content

301
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that the game can offer you,

302
00:12:22,580 --> 00:12:25,020
or most of the content that the games offer you,

303
00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:30,740
making you hit a lot less than you used to

304
00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:34,540
isn't gonna be an entertaining way to like tide you over

305
00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:37,180
because you've already done the content.

306
00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:38,820
So it's like, so what is the point?

307
00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:40,340
What have you done this for?

308
00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:45,340
I do believe nerfs are a simple way to balance everything,

309
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to get some scaling involved,

310
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because you can't just keep buffing everything,

311
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because then you've got to keep buffing the enemies.

312
00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:52,060
Yeah.

313
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It can only go one or two ways.

314
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So if you slightly nerf stuff

315
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where it makes it a little bit more difficult,

316
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not on fucking general mobs,

317
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but when you're in dungeons and stuff like that,

318
00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:05,820
it makes it that little bit more of an actual play,

319
00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:07,820
then that makes perfect sense.

320
00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:09,020
But what they've done,

321
00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:13,540
I can only imagine it must be like,

322
00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:17,580
shit, Diablo 4 is in jeopardy.

323
00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:19,980
Let's make it, here's a quick fix

324
00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:22,740
so that people don't go through the game

325
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as quickly as they have,

326
00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:25,820
so that any new people that buy it

327
00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:28,100
are gonna be attached to us for even longer,

328
00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:30,900
rather than actually fucking looking at it decently.

329
00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:34,260
Yeah, the quick way out.

330
00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:35,100
Yeah, it just seems-

331
00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:39,660
Which might be the downfall of it, which is great.

332
00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:42,700
I just miss when that good like two weeks

333
00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:44,540
when Diablo Mortal was fun.

334
00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:47,260
Yeah, then they fucked it with a paywall.

335
00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:49,100
Because I was really enjoying that.

336
00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:51,220
That game played really good on the mobile.

337
00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:52,060
Yeah.

338
00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:53,260
On the mobile, on the phone.

339
00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:55,780
On a mobile device.

340
00:13:55,780 --> 00:13:56,780
Yeah, and like-

341
00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,980
Really fun, the controls of it were great.

342
00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:00,820
Yeah.

343
00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:01,860
They were so good.

344
00:14:01,860 --> 00:14:04,220
And then they just went and fucking ruined it.

345
00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:06,660
We still haven't finished our little joint quest.

346
00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:07,860
No, cause what's the fucking point?

347
00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:10,580
Neither of us have deleted it off our phone though.

348
00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:11,420
I think I have.

349
00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:12,300
No, you haven't.

350
00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:13,300
I think I have.

351
00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:16,820
Pause for Ruth's checking his phone.

352
00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:19,620
I've gotta find the settings.

353
00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:21,380
I'm almost sure that I did.

354
00:14:21,380 --> 00:14:23,340
I don't think you did.

355
00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:24,260
Truly not.

356
00:14:24,260 --> 00:14:25,860
Maybe it's one of those ones where I haven't used it

357
00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:28,500
in so long that it's just been like put to sleep.

358
00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:29,340
So like I can't-

359
00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:32,340
Can you not just search for it?

360
00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:33,180
Yeah, I am.

361
00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:34,020
No, it's not there.

362
00:14:34,020 --> 00:14:35,540
I did delete it.

363
00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:36,380
I did delete it.

364
00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:37,860
No, you know what was really annoying about that is-

365
00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:40,260
Why the fuck is Apex Legends on there?

366
00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:41,100
Oh.

367
00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,940
Oh no, it is still here.

368
00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:44,180
Yeah, I knew it.

369
00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:45,020
It is still here.

370
00:14:45,020 --> 00:14:48,140
Diablo, Diablo Immortal, Snap.

371
00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,020
Remember when Ash was fucking all over that.

372
00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:51,860
Oh my God.

373
00:14:51,860 --> 00:14:52,680
Oh my God.

374
00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,520
Marvel Snap.

375
00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,900
Throwdown.

376
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:56,740
Whoa, you said that a lot of your dollar.

377
00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:57,580
Remember that one.

378
00:14:57,580 --> 00:14:59,820
That had a lot of money spent on that.

379
00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:01,380
Fucking hell.

380
00:15:01,380 --> 00:15:02,220
Jesus Christ.

381
00:15:02,220 --> 00:15:04,020
You'll be into that tonight then.

382
00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:05,780
Fucking hell.

383
00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:07,820
But yeah, like I do wish,

384
00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:09,580
like I would have happily paid for that game

385
00:15:09,580 --> 00:15:10,780
if it meant that.

386
00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:12,980
It's kind of what I say about like Dreamlight.

387
00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:14,580
Just don't make it freeze play.

388
00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:15,820
Don't fuck about with all the shit

389
00:15:15,820 --> 00:15:17,940
that they've ruined it like day by day.

390
00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:21,660
If that was on Play Store or Apple Store

391
00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:25,580
and yeah, it was like a 15 quid price tag

392
00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:27,780
and you could have it on your phone.

393
00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:29,060
Yeah, I would have fucking paid it.

394
00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:30,500
But it was cross platform anyway.

395
00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:33,940
So you could, I could play it on the laptop, which I did.

396
00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:38,940
So even if they, like said, 40 quid,

397
00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:42,220
but if they sold it as 40 quid,

398
00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:44,660
but you can also play it on your phone.

399
00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:48,420
So then I would have actually paid it

400
00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:50,340
because I liked playing it on my phone.

401
00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:53,860
And then even better with the fucking Steam Deck,

402
00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:55,900
I would have been all over that shit.

403
00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:58,740
If they had that on the Steam Deck, oh my God,

404
00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:00,260
because the controls would have been the same

405
00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:02,060
just with joy icons rather than fucking

406
00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:03,500
your thumbs on the screen.

407
00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:04,340
Copyright, yeah.

408
00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:05,620
So much fun.

409
00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:06,860
I loved it.

410
00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:09,020
And then to the point where we spent

411
00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:10,940
an entire holiday playing it,

412
00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:12,700
completely ignored the fucking sun

413
00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:15,780
and the area that we was in.

414
00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:17,620
We fucking stayed in the hotel room playing Diablo.

415
00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:18,740
That's making it sound bad.

416
00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:20,500
For reference, there was literally nothing around.

417
00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,340
It was Lanzarote, you agree.

418
00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:23,180
We picked a hotel in the middle of nowhere.

419
00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,140
Don't ever go to Lanzarote, it's fucking a waste of time.

420
00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:27,180
No, it's not, it's not, come on.

421
00:16:27,180 --> 00:16:28,660
It weren't for us.

422
00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:30,260
It was, no, we ended up,

423
00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:33,060
it ended up clashing with a different family holiday.

424
00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:35,180
We were out, we were outholidayed.

425
00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:37,980
We'd been on too many holidays too quickly.

426
00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:39,900
So we won't be doing that again.

427
00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:41,500
It'll be at least a month's worth of a gap.

428
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,740
It felt so awful to say it, but it was literally like,

429
00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:46,180
we've done this too close together.

430
00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:47,020
Isn't that funny?

431
00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:48,580
And we missed the dog.

432
00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:50,260
Yeah, no, it's unbearable.

433
00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:52,780
But no, that, and I mean, it was only a short,

434
00:16:52,780 --> 00:16:54,380
let's not forget, it was only a short trip as well.

435
00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:55,700
For four days, it's not like that.

436
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,980
Well, whatever, we turned up.

437
00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:57,820
No, tell you what.

438
00:16:57,820 --> 00:16:59,140
It's so fucking ill.

439
00:16:59,140 --> 00:17:01,140
That it's not, don't go Lanzarote,

440
00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:04,100
it's don't fucking fly with Jet Two.

441
00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:08,460
Oh, sorry if there's any Jet Two fans listening.

442
00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:12,020
I will be happy to never hear Jess Glynn ever again.

443
00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:13,460
Can you imagine if the plane's actually gone down,

444
00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:14,300
that'd be the last thing you hit.

445
00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,060
Standing in a crowded room.

446
00:17:16,060 --> 00:17:17,580
I can see your face.

447
00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:19,700
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

448
00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:20,540
Oh, so sick of it.

449
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,900
No, there was this great moment as well

450
00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:24,180
where we got the bus transfer thing.

451
00:17:24,180 --> 00:17:26,020
And the first time, when we got there,

452
00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:27,580
we were sat on the bus for about an hour and a half

453
00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:29,420
with the first ones on the bus.

454
00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:30,660
We were indeed. And then we were actually

455
00:17:30,660 --> 00:17:32,460
the last ones off of the bus.

456
00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:34,460
Yep. Which took another hour.

457
00:17:34,460 --> 00:17:36,460
And then when we were coming home,

458
00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:37,620
we were the first ones on the bus.

459
00:17:37,620 --> 00:17:38,820
We were the first pick up.

460
00:17:38,820 --> 00:17:40,700
And then when we got to the airport,

461
00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:42,740
Reece was really stressful because our plane

462
00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:44,820
was like an hour away from taking off.

463
00:17:44,820 --> 00:17:46,940
And we weren't even like at the airport yet.

464
00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:48,060
And I was like, don't panic.

465
00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:50,260
We're on a Jet Two bus, getting on a Jet Two plane.

466
00:17:50,260 --> 00:17:51,620
Like I'm sure they won't leave without us.

467
00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:55,260
And they didn't, but we understandably

468
00:17:55,260 --> 00:17:57,300
champing up the bit to get off the bus.

469
00:17:57,300 --> 00:17:59,620
That's because it was absolutely bollocks

470
00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:01,420
because when the coach fucking picked us up,

471
00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:04,260
we were the last cunts that they picked up.

472
00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:06,260
No, we were the first people they picked up

473
00:18:06,260 --> 00:18:07,340
on the way home.

474
00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:08,180
That was it.

475
00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:09,020
We were the last ones that got dropped off

476
00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:09,860
on the way out.

477
00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:11,420
We were the first ones picked up

478
00:18:11,420 --> 00:18:13,580
and we went all around fucking Lanzarote,

479
00:18:13,580 --> 00:18:15,380
picking every motherfucker up.

480
00:18:15,380 --> 00:18:17,060
People that were late, people that think.

481
00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:21,620
And then not only was my case in the end,

482
00:18:21,620 --> 00:18:23,620
Reece went on the round the other side of the bus

483
00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:26,540
because they'd left my case, not on it.

484
00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,620
But this was a great moment where we were about

485
00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:31,980
to disembark the vehicle and a Jet Two lady

486
00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:34,780
pushed Reece back onto the bus just to stand there

487
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,500
and say, thank you for choosing Jet Two holidays.

488
00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,460
This is what happened.

489
00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:43,100
They stopped, music starts playing.

490
00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,860
I jumped straight out of my seat

491
00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:46,900
because I was like, I'm getting off of this coach

492
00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:49,900
and I'm getting our stuff off of this fucking coach.

493
00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:53,140
And I'm pretty sure I had one foot on the ground

494
00:18:53,140 --> 00:18:56,700
off the coach and she literally put her hand on my chest

495
00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:59,900
and pushed me back up and says, nope, you can't go yet.

496
00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:03,180
And I literally looked at her and went, what the fuck?

497
00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:06,660
And then she pushed me back and then said, thank you.

498
00:19:06,660 --> 00:19:09,020
I was like, what a waste of fucking time that was.

499
00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:10,060
Get out of my way.

500
00:19:10,060 --> 00:19:11,740
We had a blessing.

501
00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:13,260
I think if you were going for like two weeks,

502
00:19:13,260 --> 00:19:15,540
it might make more sense, but we literally turned up.

503
00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:17,540
There was a welcome pack saying hello.

504
00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,100
And then the next day there was a letter on our table

505
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:22,180
going, you're leaving tomorrow.

506
00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:23,820
I hope you've had a lovely holiday with Jet Two.

507
00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:26,980
You're like, I'm getting a whiplash.

508
00:19:26,980 --> 00:19:29,540
But no, but anyway, back to the original point is that,

509
00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:31,180
yeah, we played a lot of Diablo on the holiday.

510
00:19:31,180 --> 00:19:33,580
And it was great.

511
00:19:33,580 --> 00:19:35,940
Like that, I actually had like a really, really nice time.

512
00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:36,780
I really liked it.

513
00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:37,900
We were sitting at a fucking buffet

514
00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:38,980
and we're both looking at each other and stuff.

515
00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:41,220
It's like, you're thinking what I'm thinking.

516
00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:43,740
Oh yeah, we're gonna go back and play Diablo Immortal.

517
00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,180
100%.

518
00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:46,020
Oh my God.

519
00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:46,940
Because it was just so nice, man.

520
00:19:46,940 --> 00:19:49,820
We just put on some British TV

521
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:52,620
and then just sat there playing Diablo Immortal.

522
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:53,460
It was great.

523
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:54,340
With snacks.

524
00:19:54,340 --> 00:19:55,500
Oh, should we go away?

525
00:19:56,820 --> 00:20:00,980
Well no, actually though, do you not think our little,

526
00:20:00,980 --> 00:20:02,900
when we went away at Christmas for a couple of days

527
00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,700
and we took the dog, I actually unknowingly had COVID.

528
00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:08,540
Then I very, very much knew I had COVID

529
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,780
about three or four hours later.

530
00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:13,380
But that was great because we did an Airbnb

531
00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:14,900
and I know there's a little bit going on with them

532
00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:17,380
at the minute where like basically it's taking the piss

533
00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:20,420
with the pricing and actually people are being filmed,

534
00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:21,420
people are being harassed.

535
00:20:21,420 --> 00:20:23,100
Well, the geezer was kind of taking the piss

536
00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:24,420
with the fucking cleaning service

537
00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:26,260
when he didn't he found like 60 quid to him.

538
00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:27,100
No, that wasn't him.

539
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:27,940
That was when we didn't stay in

540
00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:29,060
because that took the piss.

541
00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:31,260
No, but this guy had like 13 fucking properties

542
00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:32,940
in a tiny, tiny little coastal town.

543
00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:33,780
Nuts.

544
00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:34,620
Anyway, good for him.

545
00:20:34,620 --> 00:20:35,440
Happy for him.

546
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,060
Really actually am.

547
00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:39,180
But no, like we, and it was perfect though

548
00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:41,820
because there was a telly with H.J. Meyer.

549
00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:44,020
So I brought my switch and was playing that.

550
00:20:44,020 --> 00:20:46,620
And then there was a little desk with a little light

551
00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,820
just behind where the chair was and Reese had his laptop.

552
00:20:49,820 --> 00:20:51,380
And it was amazing.

553
00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:52,340
Like it was really great.

554
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:55,260
We had a taste of what it'd be like to have our own gaff

555
00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:56,620
and it felt so great.

556
00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:58,780
It was in like some little like, not even little,

557
00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:00,460
just a three bedroom house.

558
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:01,460
Two, yeah.

559
00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:02,300
No, it was three.

560
00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:03,180
Two.

561
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,020
Three.

562
00:21:04,020 --> 00:21:04,860
Two.

563
00:21:04,860 --> 00:21:05,700
Three.

564
00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:06,520
Think about it, top of the stairs,

565
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,660
there was a double bedroom there

566
00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:09,300
and then there was a double bed in that one

567
00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,660
and then a bathroom and that was it.

568
00:21:11,660 --> 00:21:12,660
No.

569
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,940
It described me the third bedroom then kid.

570
00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:16,380
Right, upstairs.

571
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:17,220
Yep.

572
00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:18,400
Up the stairs.

573
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,420
Yep.

574
00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:21,900
So I've come up the stairs directly there

575
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:23,560
is the one with two beds.

576
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,620
No, it was off to the left.

577
00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,540
Yes, which is where I've come up the stairs.

578
00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:30,020
I'm now facing this way.

579
00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,860
Oh right, yep.

580
00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:31,940
There's a bedroom there.

581
00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:32,780
Yep.

582
00:21:32,780 --> 00:21:33,620
Two beds.

583
00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:35,180
Two beds with the window looking into the garden.

584
00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:36,020
Yep.

585
00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:36,860
Yep.

586
00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:37,680
And then there was-

587
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,520
Now remember it's a terrace

588
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,980
so you've only got two walls with windows.

589
00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:40,820
Yep.

590
00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:41,660
Okay.

591
00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:42,480
And then there was a-

592
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,320
So which bedroom had no windows?

593
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,140
And then there was a corridor.

594
00:21:45,140 --> 00:21:45,980
Yep.

595
00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:46,820
Yeah.

596
00:21:46,820 --> 00:21:48,260
With our bedroom and the toilet.

597
00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:49,340
Yep.

598
00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:51,140
I swear there was another room

599
00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:52,260
in between that corridor.

600
00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:54,840
No, cause think about it, it's a terrace.

601
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,680
So you only had two walls.

602
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,140
I know technically if it doesn't have a window

603
00:21:57,140 --> 00:21:58,100
it can't be a bedroom.

604
00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,660
No, there was no room.

605
00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:00,500
Did you know that?

606
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:01,340
Cause the wardrobe-

607
00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:02,180
Connor was explaining that to me.

608
00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:03,540
If it doesn't have a window

609
00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:05,540
it technically can't be classed as a bedroom.

610
00:22:05,540 --> 00:22:06,620
Yeah, makes sense.

611
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:10,180
It's more of a closet, I suppose.

612
00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:11,020
No, it will-

613
00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:12,820
So anyway, now two lovely two bed house.

614
00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:13,660
Two bed then.

615
00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:15,560
It's a two bed house.

616
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,400
Really nice.

617
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,240
What would become?

618
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,300
It was a lovely house.

619
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:19,300
Two bed, two bathrooms.

620
00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:20,140
Yeah.

621
00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:21,100
Was it two bathrooms?

622
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:21,940
It was like, yeah.

623
00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:22,760
There was, yeah.

624
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

625
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,220
Yeah, no, it was nice, man.

626
00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:26,060
It was all right.

627
00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:26,900
It was decent.

628
00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:27,740
We had a little-

629
00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:28,580
Yeah, I liked it.

630
00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:29,660
It was really nice.

631
00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:32,500
Fucking little like fake fire.

632
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:33,340
Yeah.

633
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:34,180
Oh, it was crusty.

634
00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:35,020
What you put on cause I was having, you know.

635
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:35,860
Cause you was dying.

636
00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:37,540
Dying, yeah.

637
00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:39,820
And yeah, and then we just fucking gamed all night.

638
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:42,260
It's a shame about Diablo Immortal though, man.

639
00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:43,100
Once I-

640
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:43,920
Oh no.

641
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,900
Once I hit that paywall,

642
00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:49,820
I was just instantly like, no, fuck this.

643
00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:53,900
It's so strange because I was always like

644
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:56,180
three or four levels just behind you, wasn't I?

645
00:22:56,180 --> 00:22:58,860
Cause I played a couple of days later.

646
00:22:58,860 --> 00:23:03,860
And what got me was I never actually hit the paywall

647
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:07,220
because when you hit the paywall and immediately stopped,

648
00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:08,480
I kind of stopped.

649
00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:12,980
Which kind of has that weird like back of closure

650
00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:17,360
where I believe you and I believe everyone that did hit it.

651
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,940
But like having not hit it myself,

652
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:22,180
there's like this tiny bit of hope

653
00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:24,780
that maybe if I were to hit it, it'd be all right.

654
00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:25,620
Sure.

655
00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:26,460
I'd still enjoy it,

656
00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:28,460
but I know that that's just not gonna be the case.

657
00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:29,700
And yeah, it is.

658
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,860
I did have a little dabble actually a little while ago,

659
00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:32,860
didn't I?

660
00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:34,220
Cause I just miss her.

661
00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:37,460
And actually like all of the textures

662
00:23:37,460 --> 00:23:39,060
and everything had like deleted itself.

663
00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:39,900
Yeah, mine's the same.

664
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:41,380
So you have to re-download it.

665
00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:43,160
And yeah, and like there was quite a few,

666
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,180
like for some reason,

667
00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:45,740
Jermyn Bourne originally did it.

668
00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:47,580
My phone just wouldn't like it.

669
00:23:47,580 --> 00:23:48,420
Yeah, yeah.

670
00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:49,240
Trying to do it.

671
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,540
And like, I only have very few,

672
00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:54,900
like when I had a little dabble that was there.

673
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:56,620
And it did feel good.

674
00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:57,500
It felt so nice,

675
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,060
but it is pretty dead compared to what it was

676
00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:00,820
when we played it obviously.

677
00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:02,140
There's still a couple of people about,

678
00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:04,220
but hardly any compared to,

679
00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:06,980
but oh, it just could have been so good.

680
00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:08,500
It could have been so, so good.

681
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:09,500
So versatile.

682
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:12,660
I imagine in the extent where,

683
00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:14,660
if that was, excuse me,

684
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:19,860
if it was successful and if it was not, you know,

685
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:21,860
how it actually was with Payone, whatever.

686
00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:24,380
Like I reckon to the extent

687
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:25,940
where you might have never bought a Steam Deck.

688
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:29,180
If your phone was cutting that mustard for you,

689
00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:30,020
there's, you know what I mean?

690
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:31,980
Like there really is something there with

691
00:24:31,980 --> 00:24:34,980
making it accessible to something that everyone already has.

692
00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:35,820
Everyone has a smartphone.

693
00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:38,860
There is a high possibility that if it had taken off

694
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:41,520
and actually sustained its flight,

695
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,780
then I would have gone down the route

696
00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:45,580
of getting a Lenovo Legion,

697
00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:47,260
as opposed to getting a Steam Deck

698
00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:48,100
or would have got a gaming phone.

699
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:49,100
And that was your toss up, wasn't it, really?

700
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:49,940
Which is what I was,

701
00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:51,980
what we've been planning on for years

702
00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:53,940
is to get hold of a gaming phone.

703
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:54,780
And...

704
00:24:54,780 --> 00:24:56,220
You used to look at the Razer ones, didn't you?

705
00:24:56,220 --> 00:24:59,220
Yeah, and I really thought it was a,

706
00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:01,100
it was a Razer One when they first come out

707
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,700
and then a Razer Two.

708
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:06,280
And then I set my sights on a Lenovo Legion.

709
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,940
And then it was the Asus ROG

710
00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:12,420
that was the one that I was gonna get

711
00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:17,420
because it just tipped the point above everything else.

712
00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:21,620
And there's just nothing, there's nothing out there.

713
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:22,460
I can see exactly...

714
00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:24,460
So you wouldn't wanna play on the console instead.

715
00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:27,940
Yeah, I can see exactly why so many companies

716
00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:31,060
are trying to break into that mobile gaming world

717
00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:33,620
because that is such a, like you say,

718
00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:35,340
the accessibility of that.

719
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:39,460
With today's day and age, the way that phones are now,

720
00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:42,220
almost every single person,

721
00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:44,060
obviously I understand if you can't quite afford it,

722
00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:45,100
if you're not in the same position,

723
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:50,100
but let's say majority of people have a decent phone.

724
00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:51,980
They just have one.

725
00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:56,980
Because much like the PS5, the Series X and the S,

726
00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:04,140
PC is slightly different, but let's take those two examples.

727
00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:07,860
We've spoken about it before, hitting that hardware ceiling.

728
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,980
There's only so high you can go

729
00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:11,620
and then you've got to look at other avenues.

730
00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:13,340
And it's the same with phones.

731
00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:16,540
Most phones nowadays are heavy hitters.

732
00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:18,860
Even the fucking wanky ones you see on TikTok shop

733
00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:20,580
where it's like fucking 90 quid.

734
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:23,220
Just for a time, they're still decent.

735
00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:28,220
So that versatility of having something

736
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:31,500
that you use every single day

737
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,260
for the majority of your day,

738
00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:34,900
whether it's fucking flicking through TikTok

739
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:38,300
or you're like me where you're constantly using Google Maps.

740
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:42,340
There's, everyone's on their phone all day, every day.

741
00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:46,220
And yet the gaming side of it, there's nothing there.

742
00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:49,580
Obviously you've got things like Call of Duty Mobile

743
00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:52,700
and then Diablo Immortal, Need for Speed.

744
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:55,820
But they're not, they are not the same.

745
00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,660
It almost seems to be like,

746
00:26:57,660 --> 00:26:59,820
even if these games that come out

747
00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:04,580
are just so intensely successful in their first run,

748
00:27:04,580 --> 00:27:07,420
you know, even let's say first six months,

749
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:12,100
there's, I feel little longevity at the moment.

750
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,860
Like if you think like the summer of Pokemon Go,

751
00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:16,380
will go down in the history books.

752
00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:18,100
I've never been so active in my life.

753
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,420
I was going up to the fucking Olympic Stadium

754
00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:22,060
just because that's where all the good Pokemon were.

755
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:22,900
Like all the once.

756
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:24,940
Coming out clubbing at like fucking three in the morning

757
00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:26,620
and there's like hundreds of people,

758
00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:27,980
like it's middle of the fucking day.

759
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:29,380
Like everyone's on Pokemon Go.

760
00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:30,580
We were never so healthy.

761
00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:31,420
You know what I mean?

762
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:32,340
And you know, even-

763
00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:34,820
People have never felt safer to go outside.

764
00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:35,860
Obviously I know there was a spout

765
00:27:35,860 --> 00:27:37,300
of like people getting their phones rubbed up

766
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:38,140
because everyone's on their phones.

767
00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:39,060
Yeah, like getting hit by cars and shit.

768
00:27:39,060 --> 00:27:41,660
Yeah, but ultimately there was never been

769
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,500
so many people out in a night.

770
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:44,340
It was so great.

771
00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:45,660
Yeah, and you could just tell,

772
00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:48,340
you could tell who was Pokemon Go.

773
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:51,860
You know, and like even going back to like really early on

774
00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:54,100
like Angry Birds and you can't even get

775
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,060
like a just normal bog standard Angry Birds anymore.

776
00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:58,780
Which I find sad.

777
00:27:58,780 --> 00:27:59,620
You know what I mean?

778
00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:02,860
Like some things, I thought it was nice

779
00:28:02,860 --> 00:28:04,660
like going right back to start the fact that, you know,

780
00:28:04,660 --> 00:28:06,300
like some of the cod servers are back online

781
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,860
because people I think do want that.

782
00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:12,020
And I think like with Nintendo Switch,

783
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:15,420
obviously with the online membership,

784
00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:18,300
there's loads and loads of emulated games

785
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,620
and they're bringing new ones all the time.

786
00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:22,580
And like that, there is a, now I know

787
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:25,620
we've had the conversation before where you especially,

788
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:29,220
but also me to quite a significant extent,

789
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:30,860
we don't necessarily go in for the replay

790
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,820
and the old games exactly what we just said earlier.

791
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:35,340
I can't remember if it was on this or the Patreon,

792
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:36,500
if you'd like to have a look.

793
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,740
For five pounds a month.

794
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,380
About kind of keeping that, oh no, it wasn't the start.

795
00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:43,060
Keeping that nostalgia for yourself

796
00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:45,340
and not kind of replaying it now.

797
00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:46,260
Yeah.

798
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:49,180
But I do think that, yeah,

799
00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:52,780
they've yet to break into something that stays around.

800
00:28:52,780 --> 00:28:55,020
It's the corporate greed of it.

801
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:57,460
The fucking ads as well, like I know.

802
00:28:57,460 --> 00:28:58,660
Well, Diablo didn't.

803
00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:01,220
No, not the ads, but like for Diablo,

804
00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:03,380
but there are games where,

805
00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:05,220
like there are a couple where I have,

806
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,060
it'll be like two pound 49 to get it back.

807
00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:08,180
I did the same thing with Frodown.

808
00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:09,020
Yeah, I did the same thing.

809
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:09,860
And that's why they do it.

810
00:29:09,860 --> 00:29:12,460
It's why they do it with YouTube, Spotify.

811
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:14,980
When you think about it, so we're here saying,

812
00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:17,100
oh, you know, if you'd have put,

813
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:21,580
if you'd have made Diablo Immortal available for 30 quid,

814
00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:23,100
and okay, yeah, 30 quid,

815
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,300
and still have shit that you can buy,

816
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:28,260
much like anything, ESO, WoW, whatever.

817
00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:33,940
But ultimately, if Diablo Immortal had taken off

818
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,180
and the pay, you know, everyone was okay

819
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:39,220
with it being, having the fat fucking paywall,

820
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:43,900
per customer, they would make so much more because.

821
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:44,740
Of course they would.

822
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:48,100
You know, so they obviously, you know, I think

823
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,860
there must've been a point where they made that decision

824
00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:52,060
and went, nah, we'll risk it

825
00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:53,500
and hope that we get fucking lows.

826
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,100
What they did is they made it pay to win,

827
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,900
but masked it as they, they were clever with it,

828
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:05,660
but not at the same time because people are smart.

829
00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:08,740
They made it pay to win without making it pay to win.

830
00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:12,660
So technically you can access everything

831
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:14,900
within the game for free.

832
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,980
Yeah, if you grind your life away.

833
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:19,420
Yeah, much like every single fucking mobile game,

834
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:22,220
there is Clash of Clans, you know what I mean?

835
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:24,220
Stuff like that, Throwdown.

836
00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:27,260
You can play them all for free.

837
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:30,660
You can gain absolutely everything for free,

838
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:33,260
but it takes you fucking forever.

839
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:36,500
And people did the maths and the monetary maths

840
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:40,580
for Diablo Immortal, and it was thousands of pounds,

841
00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:43,740
thousands and thousands to be able to get

842
00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:47,500
the top tier quality gear.

843
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,580
And the hours that would have had to be put in,

844
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,940
it was hundreds of years to be put in,

845
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,700
to reach that level without spending any money.

846
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,660
So people were doing that.

847
00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:04,500
Obviously it's all RNG based, so it's completely random.

848
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:09,500
So it's like, say there's a crest that you need.

849
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,620
There might be a one in 1000 chance of you getting it.

850
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:15,580
So you might get it on the first fucking try.

851
00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:18,300
You might get it on the 55th try,

852
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,380
but the majority of people are gonna get it

853
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:22,500
somewhere near the thousand range.

854
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:24,740
So that means that in order for me to get that,

855
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:26,780
say we put it into hours,

856
00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:29,020
I might get it in my first hour of gameplay,

857
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:31,580
but majority of people, it's gonna be a thousand hours.

858
00:31:31,580 --> 00:31:33,820
So you go with the average of that.

859
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:37,940
And that's how they got away with it by saying,

860
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:39,820
well, you can get everything,

861
00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:44,820
but they're also the people that are in charge of the RNG.

862
00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:47,060
So they can tweak it down whenever they want.

863
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:48,860
World of Warcraft have done that before.

864
00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:51,180
Loads of games with that kind of loot system

865
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,900
have done that before, where they go,

866
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,620
all right, well, this has a 5% drop chance.

867
00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:56,580
Let's just tweak that down a little bit,

868
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:57,740
or let's bump that up now

869
00:31:57,740 --> 00:31:59,860
because it's been out for X amount of time.

870
00:31:59,860 --> 00:32:02,260
And yeah, with Diablo Immortal,

871
00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:05,220
it was so much money that you would have needed.

872
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:10,220
And because of that, there was a significant skill gap

873
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:12,180
in that.

874
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:17,100
Obviously, places like China,

875
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,500
where mobile gaming is massive,

876
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,460
a lot of like the 1% player base of Diablo Immortal

877
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:26,540
was in countries like that,

878
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:28,780
where it's already an integrated thing.

879
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,540
Mobile gaming in the continent of Asia

880
00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:37,100
is massive compared to the Western side.

881
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:40,180
And it was very, very noticeable

882
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,300
that once you hit a certain point,

883
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,420
you weren't getting any form of progression,

884
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:47,380
but there were people that had paid that were above you

885
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:50,460
that could fuck you up instantaneously.

886
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:53,660
So it's like, right, so I'm not even being given the chance

887
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:55,300
to get to your level for free.

888
00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:57,220
I'm never gonna get it without paying.

889
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:58,340
And I think that spoiled it

890
00:32:58,340 --> 00:33:01,260
because I genuinely think that Diablo Immortal

891
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:04,420
could have been the game that paved the way

892
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:07,780
for mobile gaming because it played so well

893
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:10,900
and it ran so well and it was so fun.

894
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:12,020
I loved it so much.

895
00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:14,260
It was such a good game and it was free.

896
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:16,980
It was free, which it shouldn't have been.

897
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:18,060
I should have made it pay.

898
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:19,460
And I think it's interesting as well,

899
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:20,980
like the further thing to that.

900
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:23,220
So you've got like, like you say,

901
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,220
either the monetary investment or the time investment,

902
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:28,580
but also the third thing is like,

903
00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:30,180
like I was just saying,

904
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:31,660
I didn't bugger off for any other reason

905
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:33,620
other than you didn't know what should you do it

906
00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:34,780
and knowing the gamer you are.

907
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:37,340
And I think kind of potentially what's happening

908
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:39,980
with Diablo 4 now is word spreads that

909
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:42,020
it's kind of dead in the water.

910
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,580
More people are gonna go fuck.

911
00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:46,060
Because even like you've just said there,

912
00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:51,460
it's gone from hyping it up and playing together

913
00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:53,100
and doing this to like, oh yeah, no,

914
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,100
I don't think Connor is playing it

915
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,620
and I don't know Ash is either.

916
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:59,460
Like it drops off in your circles as well.

917
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,140
And that is just such a killer.

918
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,740
And it also kind of feels like they don't give a fuck.

919
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:05,580
They didn't give a fuck.

920
00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:07,540
They got their money, they cashed out and off they went.

921
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:09,220
Yeah, and I still get push notifications.

922
00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:11,100
Like the other day I was at work

923
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,260
and my little watch went,

924
00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:14,060
you have a letter from the sanctuary.

925
00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:14,900
Of course.

926
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,020
You know, they're like, the letter says, please come back.

927
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:19,860
But again, it harps back to that corporate greed point

928
00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:23,740
I made earlier in that they don't look

929
00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:25,340
at the fucking longevity of it.

930
00:34:25,340 --> 00:34:26,540
It's so ridiculous.

931
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:28,500
You look at something like Diablo Immortal

932
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,220
and Blizzard would have been presented with right.

933
00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:33,820
You can either have a million players now

934
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:36,500
and then they might spend X amount of money in your shop

935
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,540
for all the shit that you're putting on it.

936
00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:42,260
But in six months time, that might drop down

937
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:46,260
to a hundred thousand concurrent players

938
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:48,180
for the next 10 years.

939
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:51,980
Or you can charge people for the game

940
00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:55,180
and have 500,000 people start playing your game.

941
00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:58,100
But in the next six months, it's gonna be 600,000.

942
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,020
And then it will stay consistent at around four to 500,000

943
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,460
for the next 10 years.

944
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,860
With a shop implemented into that as well.

945
00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:08,740
It just seems so crazy.

946
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,980
I find that so, it's so short-sighted.

947
00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:14,540
Let me quickly grab some cash off of you

948
00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:16,140
and then fucking spend it elsewhere

949
00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:18,460
and then leave this fucking dine in the water.

950
00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:22,580
Because obviously they brought in a new class, didn't they?

951
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:25,020
The, I think it's like a vampire or something.

952
00:35:25,020 --> 00:35:26,940
It was a vampire type.

953
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:28,420
And everyone was really hyped for it

954
00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:29,260
and they announced it.

955
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:31,780
And then at the end of the fucking announcement,

956
00:35:31,780 --> 00:35:32,860
Diablo Immortal.

957
00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:34,420
And everyone's like, fucking hell.

958
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,380
Not interesting, cause everyone thought it was Diablo 4.

959
00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:37,460
Shit.

960
00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:39,300
I was like, you cock teasers.

961
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,340
Cause they knew exactly what they were doing there.

962
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:45,300
But fucking Apex Legends did the same thing.

963
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:46,460
They did the same thing.

964
00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:49,100
They had, they made it mobile.

965
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,700
Made you have to pay for fucking everything.

966
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:55,260
And then brought out these really cool operators

967
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,820
that were only exclusive to the mobile.

968
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:01,740
Which you know exactly why they do that

969
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:05,300
because it's trying to entice you back to mobile gaming

970
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:07,700
rather than the console version of it.

971
00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:09,380
Yeah.

972
00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:11,420
Cause they've got like,

973
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:12,820
I can't even remember what one it was,

974
00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:15,860
but it was a really cool fucking operator there.

975
00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:16,980
I remember Ash talking about it.

976
00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:18,180
It looked fucking sick,

977
00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:21,540
but you could only get it on the mobile version of it.

978
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,180
And you can imagine it being something as simple as,

979
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:26,500
you know, a bit of market research that shows

980
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:31,020
more people pay for extra shit on mobile versus console.

981
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:32,380
So like, brilliant, let's push that.

982
00:36:32,380 --> 00:36:33,780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

983
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:34,620
Let's do a load of shit like that.

984
00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:36,260
It makes you feel like a little like,

985
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:41,660
little like mouse in a little experiment.

986
00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:42,660
Do you know what I mean?

987
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:43,780
Being sort of played with.

988
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:45,700
That they don't actually really.

989
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:46,860
Move it closer to you, man.

990
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:47,820
Oh, sorry.

991
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:48,660
Sorry about that.

992
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:49,500
Do you know what I mean?

993
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:50,340
Like it's,

994
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:55,340
it makes me sad that they may have been presented

995
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:58,580
with the scenario you just said and chose a nah,

996
00:36:58,580 --> 00:36:59,420
we'll just get the money in.

997
00:36:59,420 --> 00:37:00,860
Yeah, let's get some quick cash going.

998
00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:02,180
Or nah, that won't happen.

999
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:03,020
Why is it?

1000
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:05,300
Well, I suppose the developers might not be in charge

1001
00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,380
of that, but you know, it just seems crazy that,

1002
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:11,020
you know, a lot of these people are so incredibly passionate

1003
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:14,420
about making something decent and that they can just,

1004
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:15,260
you know, sort of be.

1005
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:18,340
I don't believe it's a developer thing that,

1006
00:37:18,340 --> 00:37:20,740
I believe it's much higher up.

1007
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:23,540
It's the corporate side of it that fuck a lot of stuff up

1008
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:28,180
because even now when there's a lot of like a gameplay

1009
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:29,020
reveals and stuff like that,

1010
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:30,620
and you see the developers talking,

1011
00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:33,580
you can see half of them are reading from a fucking script.

1012
00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:35,660
They've been told exactly what to say

1013
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:36,860
rather than speak their mind,

1014
00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:39,460
even though they're the ones that have made the fucking game

1015
00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:41,860
because they're not the ones that have the deep pockets

1016
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:42,860
to fund it.

1017
00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:44,460
They're being told what to say.

1018
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:48,060
And people know that, gamers know that.

1019
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:51,260
And I just feel like a lot of the shit that goes wrong

1020
00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,580
with gaming has nothing to do with gamers.

1021
00:37:53,580 --> 00:37:56,060
It has everything to do with people sitting in an office

1022
00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:59,060
upstairs that probably aren't even fucking gamers themselves.

1023
00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:00,420
They just like the money.

1024
00:38:01,340 --> 00:38:02,460
That Tetris film we watched,

1025
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:05,380
which is just like kind of encompasses exactly what it was.

1026
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:08,580
It was who can get the rights to this game.

1027
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:10,540
Who can make the most money.

1028
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,780
Who can make the most money out of this

1029
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,380
as quickly as possible.

1030
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:19,380
And I feel like that is such a shit way to run gaming

1031
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,180
because that is not what gaming is about.

1032
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:26,340
It's not about fucking making the most money.

1033
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:28,780
It's about being able to play with your friends

1034
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:30,540
and living in that fantasy world

1035
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:34,020
that you can't do in real life and being able to escape.

1036
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,820
And I feel like once you,

1037
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:37,500
yes, I understand that it's a business

1038
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,140
and it has to make fucking money and it's very cutthroat.

1039
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,620
Look at the fucking studio that made Gollum, gone.

1040
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:48,620
Fucking useless now, but you can't just be greedy

1041
00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:52,780
with everything, even with things like The Last of Us.

1042
00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:55,900
Why are we making remakes for both of these games?

1043
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:58,700
They're making a part two.

1044
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,020
It's either a remaster or a remake.

1045
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:02,060
Why?

1046
00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:03,220
Literally why?

1047
00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:04,740
It was only a couple of years old.

1048
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:06,500
It does not fucking need it.

1049
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:08,420
It looked fantastic on the PS5.

1050
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:10,260
What the fuck are you gonna do to it?

1051
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,420
I mean, you played on the PS4, but.

1052
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:14,220
Yeah, but it looks great on the PS5.

1053
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:16,820
So why, what more?

1054
00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:17,660
What more?

1055
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:19,620
I haven't played it on the PS5.

1056
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:22,020
No, but I've definitely seen bits of it on the PS5.

1057
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:23,900
Either way, it doesn't need to be fucking.

1058
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:24,740
Yeah, no, not at all.

1059
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,420
Nothing needs to be done to it.

1060
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:29,740
But so it's just a clear cash grab

1061
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:34,740
because I feel like people look at it

1062
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:39,420
as you're sitting in a business meeting and it's right.

1063
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,980
Well, we can either invest X amount of money

1064
00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:45,300
and try and make a new game and it potentially flop

1065
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:48,740
or we can take this game that's already massively popular,

1066
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:51,460
put it in a different fucking skin

1067
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:54,460
and then resell it to the same idiots that bought it.

1068
00:39:54,460 --> 00:39:56,420
Let's see how many people buy it.

1069
00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:58,500
And they always go for option two.

1070
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,060
Well, yeah, and it's like looking at someone

1071
00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:02,300
who has like tweeted and said,

1072
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:03,540
you know, I saw one the other week

1073
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:05,500
and he'd played it like,

1074
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,700
I think it's like 18 times all the way through.

1075
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,500
And again, how depressing that they might look at someone

1076
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:14,300
and they go, yeah, fuck it, right, all right then.

1077
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:15,900
We'll make it again, cause it's not bad.

1078
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,220
Who's played it 18 times,

1079
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:19,620
he'll definitely play it if we make it a bit shinier.

1080
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:20,780
That's so depressing.

1081
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:22,540
But then you have the massive games

1082
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:25,820
that people are screaming to be remade

1083
00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:27,540
that do not get touched.

1084
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:30,140
You've got Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2.

1085
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:33,620
People fucking go ballistic wanting that to be redone

1086
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:35,820
and yet it's not here, it's just not here.

1087
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:39,380
And then you've got the likes of fucking Prince of Persia.

1088
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:42,700
Again, people screaming for that to be fucking remade.

1089
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:45,260
Even the early Ratchet and Clank's do that.

1090
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:49,460
Simpsons Hit and Run, the old Lord of the Rings game.

1091
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:53,340
Where, what, all these, this massive catalogue

1092
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:56,620
of these fucking incredible games

1093
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:59,740
that just get completely ignored

1094
00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:04,740
for shit that's either not even old enough to be considered

1095
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,780
for a fucking remake or a remaster

1096
00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:12,780
or were so popular that it's just a clear grab for money.

1097
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:18,500
You know what I mean?

1098
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:23,500
Why, I don't understand why the, I don't know.

1099
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:26,420
And I feel like with game showcases and stuff like that,

1100
00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:28,180
there's so much stuff that you see now where it's like,

1101
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:29,620
well, who asked for this?

1102
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,940
Who wanted this game to happen?

1103
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:35,140
And then they flop and then you don't see of them ever again.

1104
00:41:35,140 --> 00:41:36,900
It's, I don't know.

1105
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:40,220
I feel like gaming's on that slippery slope

1106
00:41:40,220 --> 00:41:42,420
of being something absolutely incredible,

1107
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:44,580
but at the same time, it only takes one thing

1108
00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,060
for it to be absolutely shit.

1109
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:48,580
And I think gaming, games in themselves

1110
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:49,980
are very much like that.

1111
00:41:49,980 --> 00:41:51,940
It really doesn't take much now

1112
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:54,100
for people to be switched off from a game

1113
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,380
and then that potentially ruin the entire game.

1114
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:59,180
Diablo 4 prime example here.

1115
00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:01,540
I'm not, that game might not be absolutely ruined,

1116
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:04,260
but it's fucking reputation has definitely been tarnished

1117
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:06,500
by one set of fucking patch notes.

1118
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:07,660
That's all it's taken.

1119
00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:11,740
Yeah, well, and actually I think I would like to think

1120
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:15,220
a little bit of karma based on some stuff

1121
00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:18,740
like Diablo Immortal in that, you know,

1122
00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:21,260
I hope that they do, you know,

1123
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:22,980
I wonder had that game been amazing,

1124
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:24,500
people might have a little bit more tolerance

1125
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,460
for what's happening now with Diablo 4,

1126
00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:27,860
whether they were into that or not.

1127
00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:29,900
Like I think hearing about it and thinking,

1128
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:31,820
shit, that takes a piss.

1129
00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:34,860
You know, and it's, it is frustrating

1130
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:38,500
and you are, the industry has massively changed.

1131
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:43,500
Like even with between, like you say,

1132
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:46,580
mobile is becoming as powerful as they are,

1133
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:49,460
but also our attention span is completely changing.

1134
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:52,500
The world being shit and you're yearning for nostalgic things,

1135
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,060
you know, there's so many different elements

1136
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:58,660
that it must be very, very difficult to get that right.

1137
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:00,300
Even when you think, like I often think

1138
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,580
when a game gets released and if it's like buggy as fuck,

1139
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,300
you think, what have you been doing then?

1140
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:05,140
I don't want to be hard,

1141
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:06,820
but like what have you been doing?

1142
00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:08,540
You know, even something like Tears of the Kingdom,

1143
00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:10,940
those glitches shouldn't have happened.

1144
00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:12,820
They shouldn't have happened the way they did,

1145
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:17,820
but you know, and perhaps that's just luck, I don't know,

1146
00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:19,460
but, or people, you know what I mean?

1147
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:21,540
But like, is that not the point?

1148
00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:26,540
Here is the top 10 list on the Play Store of games.

1149
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:29,180
Oh yeah, go on.

1150
00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:31,220
The top of the top charts.

1151
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:34,260
Number one, Pokemon Sleep.

1152
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:35,580
Again, cause it's new.

1153
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:36,900
It's literally a sleeping app.

1154
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:37,740
Yeah.

1155
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,580
All right.

1156
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:40,020
Monopoly Go.

1157
00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:40,860
Okay.

1158
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:45,860
Royal Match, Roblox, Burger Please, Begging Life,

1159
00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:50,260
the picture of a homeless geezer on it saying help.

1160
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:55,260
Block Blast, which is just a blatant rip off of Tetris.

1161
00:43:55,500 --> 00:44:00,420
Life Bubble, Chrome Valley Customs and Subway Surfers.

1162
00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:02,580
The fuck?

1163
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:03,420
What is that?

1164
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:04,500
What is that?

1165
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,420
I'm going to keep scrolling until I eventually find a game.

1166
00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:08,660
I mean, Roblox is a given.

1167
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:10,180
That's actually a fucking game.

1168
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:12,660
Roblox, yes, but that's just fucking children

1169
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:13,500
that are running that shit.

1170
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,340
Yeah, and I think Subway Surfers is the same.

1171
00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:18,980
Subway Surfers has been around for fucking ages.

1172
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:23,900
FIFA Football is any game that I've seen that had Tetris.

1173
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:25,660
Tetris on 48th.

1174
00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:29,300
Other than that, there ain't actually anything.

1175
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:31,220
Mario Kart Tour 57th.

1176
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:35,940
There's nothing on here that is screaming fucking mobile games.

1177
00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:38,020
These are all just little games that you jump on

1178
00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:40,420
for five minutes every day because they fucking lock you

1179
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:41,980
out of everything after that.

1180
00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:45,500
I don't understand where,

1181
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:47,220
like, I just,

1182
00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:48,060
I'm going to have to pay for that now.

1183
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:51,580
Which is what an unexplored,

1184
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:53,940
but at the same time must be so difficult

1185
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,660
thing to break into.

1186
00:44:58,780 --> 00:44:59,620
Yeah.

1187
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:01,460
Which is what I, I don't know.

1188
00:45:01,460 --> 00:45:02,300
I just don't know.

1189
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:05,340
I think I'm just extremely butthurt about fucking

1190
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:06,900
Diablo Immortal, man.

1191
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:08,700
Such a shame.

1192
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:12,340
Oh my God, Pokemon Sleep is actually 15th in the Apple Store.

1193
00:45:12,340 --> 00:45:13,180
Oh, is it?

1194
00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:14,860
Probably because I think it came out slightly later.

1195
00:45:14,860 --> 00:45:18,860
Diablo Immortal, 10 plus million downloads.

1196
00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:20,220
That's what I was trying to look for, but it came out.

1197
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:21,500
I haven't been on it in so long

1198
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,420
that it's disabled it on my phone.

1199
00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:25,140
That's why nothing's popping up before.

1200
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:26,020
It just disables it.

1201
00:45:26,020 --> 00:45:27,500
So it's still downloaded,

1202
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,820
but it just stops it from doing anything on your phone

1203
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:30,900
until I re-enable it

1204
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,980
because you just haven't used it in that long.

1205
00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:33,820
Yeah, fair enough.

1206
00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:34,780
That's quite clever.

1207
00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:35,900
But I just find it,

1208
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:37,740
let me see some of the reviews on it.

1209
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:40,300
It's a good game,

1210
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:41,700
maybe a little bit repetitive at times,

1211
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:42,940
but the updates are insufferable.

1212
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,620
Every time they drop an update or event,

1213
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:46,660
it seems like you have to download and reinstall

1214
00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:47,820
all the game resources,

1215
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:49,940
even with a super fast broadband connection.

1216
00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:53,500
This is an exceedingly painful experience.

1217
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,100
Grim.

1218
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,220
Overall, love the app, however,

1219
00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:57,660
since the most recent updates were on that,

1220
00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:00,020
the quality of the game has rapidly just decreased.

1221
00:46:00,020 --> 00:46:01,420
It glitches really bad.

1222
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:03,660
It had a freeze and lockup,

1223
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:05,260
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1224
00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:06,820
Yeah, it's...

1225
00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,660
A lot of people saying the same shit that we're saying,

1226
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:13,260
that they love the game, but they just fucked it.

1227
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:14,100
Yeah.

1228
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:14,940
They just completely fucked it.

1229
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:15,780
Yeah, on here,

1230
00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:20,420
out of nearly 18,000 ratings,

1231
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:23,220
it's literally about 80% five star.

1232
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:25,260
But then there's one here,

1233
00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:28,180
it just says, yeah, lowest point in Blizzard history.

1234
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:29,380
Sorry, am I too loud?

1235
00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:30,340
No, you're too quiet.

1236
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:31,660
Too quiet, sorry.

1237
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:32,500
I can't sit back.

1238
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,020
That's why you haven't got the headphones on.

1239
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:34,860
Oh, sorry.

1240
00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:36,100
Just can't hear.

1241
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:38,580
Yeah, well, I don't want to mess up my curls, okay?

1242
00:46:38,580 --> 00:46:39,420
Sorry.

1243
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:40,620
No, it's okay.

1244
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:42,340
But yeah, just as I've been playing Blizzard games

1245
00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:44,860
since the 80s for perspective,

1246
00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:45,700
appreciate the graphics,

1247
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:47,460
it's literally exactly what we've just said.

1248
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:48,700
I appreciate the graphical quality

1249
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:50,180
and the gameplay is smooth,

1250
00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:51,860
but it's a hollow shell gacha game.

1251
00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:52,980
Once you reach max level,

1252
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:54,860
there is no end game at all worth a penny.

1253
00:46:54,860 --> 00:46:55,860
Yeah, literally.

1254
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:58,340
Which is just a shame.

1255
00:46:58,340 --> 00:47:03,340
There'd be a massive uproar if it weren't mobile games.

1256
00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:08,100
If it was PlayStation, Xbox, fucking laptop switch,

1257
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,300
whatever, Steam Deck,

1258
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,220
if it was anything like that.

1259
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:13,500
But again, those are games that you pay for.

1260
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,300
Most people look at it and go,

1261
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:16,820
well, it's free, what'd you expect?

1262
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:17,900
It doesn't cost you anything.

1263
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:18,980
But when it's a game like that,

1264
00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:21,020
when it was so good on the phone,

1265
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:24,740
yeah, I don't know, man.

1266
00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:25,580
I know.

1267
00:47:25,580 --> 00:47:27,420
Well, let's be optimistic for the future.

1268
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:29,340
Maybe someone will cotton on eventually.

1269
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:31,420
And we'll leave it on that somber thought.

1270
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:32,260
Yeah.

1271
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:34,020
I don't know, make it a positive one.

1272
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,060
Positives, any positives here.

1273
00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:38,900
I've got some hard stacks.

1274
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:40,380
I've got a lot of hard stacks

1275
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:42,700
from my mystery boxes from PopFigures.

1276
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,780
So that's decent.

1277
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:47,180
What was your choice between leaving Sauron out?

1278
00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:49,820
At least Famous?

1279
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:52,060
I suppose so, yeah, I suppose.

1280
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:53,620
Have you had to take them out of the plastic ones

1281
00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:54,460
to put them in there?

1282
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:55,300
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1283
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:57,620
So the plastic ones are somewhere.

1284
00:47:57,620 --> 00:47:59,060
I think they're in that box.

1285
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:01,260
Funny enough, I've got to give Mark the fucking boxes.

1286
00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:03,500
You know, they come with the Funko boxes.

1287
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:04,380
I'm gonna give them to Mark

1288
00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:05,860
because he sold a load of Funkos,

1289
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,460
but he hasn't got any boxes to send them off in.

1290
00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:09,860
What, them little ones?

1291
00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:10,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1292
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:11,540
That might be a little bit,

1293
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:13,220
it's not massively protecting.

1294
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:14,060
You almost need something there.

1295
00:48:14,060 --> 00:48:15,900
Well, they turn up in them once.

1296
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:17,660
No, they turn up in a box in a box.

1297
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:20,700
Yeah, that's true.

1298
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,180
Because you won't be able to pad it out at all.

1299
00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:23,020
That is very true.

1300
00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:23,860
But what he could do is put a little bit

1301
00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:24,700
of rubber wrap around that and then put it in a box.

1302
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,980
And then put it in a bigger box.

1303
00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:27,820
Yeah.

1304
00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:30,540
Or you could just buy your own fucking boxes.

1305
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:33,980
Stop thieving from me, you bitch.

1306
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:36,340
Yeah, I still haven't got that Squidward.

1307
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:38,380
What Squidward?

1308
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:41,220
That's signed Squidward by Roger Bumpass.

1309
00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:42,060
Yeah.

1310
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:43,260
They still won't fucking.

1311
00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:45,060
Oh man, let go.

1312
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,180
I hate to say it.

1313
00:48:46,180 --> 00:48:48,220
Oh, please.

1314
00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:49,060
It's great.

1315
00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:50,140
Right, see you later everyone.

1316
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:50,980
We're fucking off.

1317
00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:51,800
Uro.

1318
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Uro.