Oh, God. Oh, my God.
Run us through your thought process for your method podcasting, please.
Oh, I don't know if there were like thoughts that like precluded me doing this,
but I kind of thought like Nick Cage is this great, like
a well known like method actor, like or he brings a lot of method into his acting,
which is to say that like he puts himself in the shoes or the
the mental state of the character.
So like a lot of with leaving Las Vegas, there was a lot of time spent drunk
and filming himself drunk and things like that to find out how he was in that situation.
So and something like Renfield recently, he just was Dracula on set.
Yeah, pretty much all the time.
He says it wasn't all the time, but I mean, who knows?
You had the chance to just have people call you Dracula and wear a cape all the time.
Wouldn't you do it? Yes. Or count or count.
So if you're nasty.
I was doing a back to back this morning and in bringing out the dead,
Nicholas Cage plays a very burned out paramedic and he exists
just on like caffeine and whiskey and he doesn't eat so much,
but he's like always really tired.
So I I thought I'd try to put myself in that mindset while I was watching
specifically that movie to see if it affected things.
So I I smoked some weed, but that's fine.
I live in Washington and then I drink a whole lot of caffeine
to make myself like really out of it.
So I was like battling tired and like hyperactivity and stress
throughout the whole movie.
And I will say it made it interesting.
And we can talk about that more.
But like when we get to that movie.
But so, you know, I was just trying to put myself
into his character's shoes as much as he put himself into his shoes
or into that character's shoes, just so I could see what it was like.
And I don't regret it, but I wouldn't have done it on the day
that we record if I did it again.
You hear that, people?
Nick is willing to put his body through real stupid things
for your entertainment. Yeah.
Welcome back to Cage match, Colin, a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.
Oh, I tasted the fat of it.
So you can't tell it's going to be a very special episode.
We cannot use this.
No, we're using it. I'm not.
I'm not. I don't do. I don't do two of these.
Oh, God. This is not usable.
Oh, it's perfectly usable. It is not.
We're using it. We are.
We are. All right.
So what's the conceit of this podcast?
Welcome back to Cage match, Colin, a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.
Peter.
I'm our producer.
Hello. I'm here.
I'm one of the hosts, Sean, here with my other host.
Wiggle Bottoms McClure.
Yep. Nick.
As you can tell, this is going to be a interesting episode.
It's going to be a good one.
We're going to be like clean.
We're going to be fucking cutting it nice.
We're going to be like. Yeah.
It's a solid start. Yeah.
You already got yelled at.
This show is one where we take 64.
I know that it was a collective.
Oh, OK. OK. Good. Including me.
If it's an everybody's in trouble, that's fine.
Yeah. We're all going to time out.
See you guys in 10 minutes.
This show is off the rails already.
This show is where we take 64 of Nicholas Cage is best movies,
more notable, more notable movies.
And we're going to systematically go through them,
break them down and figure out what Nick Cage's best film is
as decided by us to total authorities and subjects.
Yeah, I think at this point, you guys probably can claim that.
I were about like 80 hours of Nick Cage movies in.
I was actually watching the movies this week and I was sitting there
and I was like, man, I almost never watch movies without Nick Cage now.
And it's actually like stunning when I do watch one,
because I'll be watching and I'm like, there's Nick Cage.
There's no Nick Cage.
Like, I don't know any of these people, even though I know all of them,
because it's still a Marvel movie or some shit like that.
I and it's like, huh? You're right.
No, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I did go see Guardians of the Galaxy
Volume three and the whole time I'm like, something's missing.
It's Nick Cage. Nick Cage.
You know, he could have been a great Kevin Bacon stand in
for the holiday special to.
Yeah, but the holiday special, that's not like movie star stuff.
That's a holiday special.
Yeah, that's true. He doesn't do not movie star stuff.
That's like direct streaming.
Yeah, good point. Good point.
That's below our Nicholas, which is why he's not in the now
canceled National Treasure TV show.
I wonder why it got canceled. No, Nicholas Cage.
Yeah, that's probably its only issue.
Nicholas Cage might come cheap, but he still won't do TV.
I can't blame him, you know.
I don't want to work that hard.
You got to have your scruples, right?
Well, TV's hard.
There's the shooting schedule is intense.
Fucking sucks.
Can't just come in and out like 10 days, five million dollars.
That's right. You can't just sit in front of a green screen
and in a cowboy hat and talk to the camera for,
I'm assuming, about six hours worth of work or yell about a piano
or favorite chair.
He was actually in that scene, though.
Oh, OK. Yeah, had to be.
There was a fight. Yeah.
Which is not in either of the movies we watched this week,
because this week we watched Bringing Out the Dead 1999
and Windtalkers 2000 2002.
Yeah. So not too far apart.
No, not logically.
Both directed by kind of prestige directors.
Yeah. And both box office bombs, too.
They were real both definite failures outside of the directors niche.
Yeah, for sure.
In terms of the bracket, this is the serious guy bracket.
And we have the succeed,
which is bringing up the dead against the 11 seed, which is wind talkers.
So serious, serious cage.
So there will be no jokes in this comedy podcast.
No. Peter will cut out any levity.
Absolutely. If we laugh once cut, we'll start over.
It's just going to be quacked.
Yeah. Now, every time we laugh, we have to start over.
No quack it.
Damn it. Welcome back to Cage Match,
calling around about way of meeting Nicolas Cage.
I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick and our producer.
Peter. Hello. No humor.
Not we're fucked. God damn it hurts.
Let's just get into this because I cannot right now.
What do you guys want to talk about first?
Let's do wind talkers. Sure.
Nick, do you have a high coup this week?
I don't have a high coup this week.
Do you have anything?
I have cold sweats. Good.
That's perfect. That is actually perfect for this.
All right. Summarize wind talkers for us.
So it's been a really long time since I've watched a war movie.
Nick Cage is this military guy who went through some really shitty
action on the Solomon Islands and he gets paired up with a Navajo
code talker guy.
This is in World War Two and he's like protecting him
but also like dominantly protecting the code.
So he's got orders like if the code talker was to be taken,
he has to like kill him.
And so it's just a couple small elements of the Pacific front.
Nick Cage trying to keep himself emotionally distant from this guy,
even though he has to spend all this time with him and then, you know, drama ensues.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Also, just an apology from the last episode when we were talking about introducing
this episode, I said incorrectly that it was about Apache code breakers.
Yeah, it's Navajo. Yeah.
Yeah. OK. So that's pretty good.
Yeah, I thought so. That was great.
No, that's actually pretty much the story and it goes for two hours and 14 minutes.
Nicholas Cage plays Joe Enders and Adam Beach plays Ben Yazzie,
Yazzie, which is a great name, except I kept thinking Ben Gazi the whole time.
Yeah, me too. Every time his name came up, it's like Ben Gazi, Ben Gazi.
Oh, I was thinking Ben Yazzie, Krosha from Zero Punctuation.
Yeah, that's a good one, too.
The cast for this movie, though, was fucking awesome.
Yeah, no, there were so many people in this movie.
Christian Slater.
You always know you're going to have a fun time with Christian Slater.
Yeah. Once upon a time, he did things. Yeah.
Yeah. With his time, Mark Ruffalo.
Yeah, Mark Ruffalo.
He had a pretty small part.
I mean, as a Mark Ruffalo and. Yeah. Yeah.
Honestly, I think he had the weakest bits of script like his dialogue.
Fucking sucked. Yeah.
Like when he was talking about, oh, Santorini.
Oh, you got to go to Santorini.
It's like, oh, man, you're just like some very bad stereotype. Yeah.
There was a lot of stereotyping in here because like, what's his face?
Noah Emmerich, the guy with the big gun, the kind of like loose, not loosely racist.
The racist guy named Chick. Yeah.
The guy that I kept like, I couldn't stop thinking just like, oh, he's like
Biff from. Yeah.
He's the Biff of this movie is the Biff.
But he does actually kind of get a little character redemption in the end.
He's the one he has.
He's one of the few characters who has like a full arc where he starts off as
I'm racist and I hate everybody who's not a white American,
including my own allies who just happen to be Navajo.
Yeah. And then he gets saved and he's like,
you know, my granddad used to tell me stories about killing engines.
And now who knows, maybe in 50 years, we'll
sit around with expletive for a Japanese person and have a beer.
And like, oh, yeah, I know it's a period.
So you can have a Sapporo. Yeah. Yeah.
I know it's a period piece, which sounds fine to me right now.
Yeah, that's not pretty good.
But I haven't really eaten today, so.
But yeah, I mean, Ruffalo's character basically is like, I'm Greek.
And the end of his story arc is I'm Greek. Yeah. Yeah.
And alive still. Yeah.
Which I could have sworn he got shot in the chest in that final shootout.
He did make it, but I remember him getting shot at one point
because there were only four of them and one of them definitely got shot in the chest.
Oh, you know, if we're talking about the final shootout,
can we talk about the end credits real quick?
How fucking weird and kind of bullshitty was it that they put up footage
of the characters in black and white from the movie
next to their names, like in slow motion, like it was an in memoriam. Yeah.
But it's not a true story story.
There was no indication that this is based on any real people.
And then they just slow motion in memoriam, everybody. Yeah.
And it's like, OK, I'm like, I'm going to watch
the credits for us. No, I'm done.
OK, so we can break it down in three parts.
Solomon Islands, Hawaii, Saipan.
It opens up on the Solomon Islands.
We've got a bunch of Marines.
Nick Cage is a Marine in this.
They're securing this swamp.
They have to hold this position.
He refuses to retreat.
He's not going to retreat.
His orders are to hold it and everyone does.
His entire unit gets killed and he is injured,
which will in the next scene in Hawaii
kind of introduce us to this nurse who takes a liking to him,
kind of helps him recuperate.
He's got this fucked up ear because of a grenade.
And so his balance is out and he can't really hear so well.
That only comes up a little bit.
It's not necessarily that's not a plot point in this film.
Yeah, really. I think they could have played that up more, but
or just not done that at all.
They use it as a character point for like why he ended up
getting stuck in this detail, right?
Because he was a good fucking Marine.
He held the swamp to literally the last man.
Yeah. And so now it's like, oh, despite his little injury,
he's going to be the guy that has to kill the Navajo Code Talker.
If necessary, because he's a good fucking Marine.
Him and Slater are given the same detail with a different Code Talker.
Yeah, we've got Ben with Nicolas Cage and Charlie,
who is rolling with Christian Slater and Slater's character is quick,
fast becomes friends with his Code Talker.
They discover a level of music.
They actually start bonding.
And of course, push comes to shove.
Slater can't do it. Yeah.
So after Hawaii, we've kind of got Cage's ender going back into active duty.
He gets sent on this
detail with the Code Talkers back out to Saipan.
And from here, we get a couple different
engagement zones, I guess you'd call it.
There's quite a few of these, and they all kind of blended together for me.
There are three major fights, three major engagements.
Yeah, no four, if you count the town. Yeah, four.
So yeah, the first one is when they first get there and they're taking.
Yeah, they kind of take that beachhead. Yeah.
And then they're just moving north through Saipan.
And there's the friendly fire incident. Yeah.
Then the town and then the final minefield debacle. Yes.
Yeah, no, you're right.
They do all the fight scenes in this really do blend together.
And yeah, it's a war film, but.
It could have easily cut half an hour of this film,
and it would have had the same impact.
No, I feel like I'm not a fan of war films.
I'm not either.
And when I was watching this, I was actually thinking like,
it's been a really long time since I've watched a war movie.
And war movies actually handle this violence a lot differently
because it is it's graphic without exploiting the violence.
No, it's not. It shows how truly shitty this is.
But when a person is shot, there is an exit wound.
There's blood.
John Wu went with a very realistic take on war.
The battle scenes are kind of graphic.
I mean, in the very opening of one of them,
like you get a guy whose hand is chopped off with a katana.
At one point, a character's head is cut off with a katana.
There is just a limb gets blown off.
You know, there's lots of different.
Yeah, very, very graphic.
A lot of things with mines.
There's a lot of artillery shelling in this.
Every time someone goes back to like help their buddy, they generally get mowed down.
No, it's I mean, it's terrible.
And I'm assuming it's realistic.
Drop down in the comments if you've ever been.
Please don't.
It's interesting thinking about like, you know, Band of Brothers
or any of those movies or back to like Saving Private Ryan and things like that.
They have very long and I was I was thinking when I was watching this,
I was like the opening Solomon Islands scene is
a fairly long feeling depiction of this.
But then I was thinking back to like Saving Private Ryan,
where it was like almost like 25 minutes or some shit like that.
It's like insanely long just on the D-Day landings and stuff like that.
Yeah. And I mean, I'm not going to go back and watch Saving Private Ryan
because like we established, I'm not really a war movie guy, but it's intense.
It's not like overly gory.
But one interesting thing I found out about this is
John Woo really tried to make this in kind of war drama,
a very serious depiction of war.
And the studio was like, no, we want this to be more of an action film.
This was supposed to come out in 2001.
It got bumped for obvious reasons.
And they made him take out half an hour
of content, most of which was more gruesome wartime war fighting.
So half an hour of this movie was cut and that was largely more combat.
Speaking of this being a John Woo movie, the second movie is a Martin Scorsese.
So good names.
This movie and next movie, neither of them necessarily feel
like they were made by these directors.
No, there's like one scene I felt in this movie where it felt like John Woo
was really making the call.
And that's when Nicholas Cage is drunk and Ben is smoking the cigarette.
And there's just like kind of slower, more artistic shots of him, like
blowing the sick. He was doing like a cleansing ritual sort of thing.
And he was like blowing the smoke over Cage's drunk body and like trying to,
like drop ashes and stuff on him to kind of cleanse him or whatever.
That's the only time I really felt like this felt like a
John Woo movie.
So this felt like more like a John Woo movie to me in that
in all of the combat scenes, you always have a guy
from standing position, go into a shoulder roll,
standing up and shooting someone for no reason.
It happens a lot.
Yeah. I like shooting somebody or throwing a knife.
Yeah. There's a lot of like that.
I'm like I was introduced to.
Yeah, I was introduced to John Woo with like the killers, like his
his old school stuff.
So I see a lot of that cinematography and a lot of that kind of violence
in this film, which he's good at what he does.
I do have a quote here from John Woo.
This was his second to last film in America that he made in America.
He did Mission Impossible 2 right before this.
This is why he left.
All Hollywood offers me is crap or big action pictures.
I want to do something good.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That is a pretty good quote. Yeah.
Give me a war movie where you do something artistic that's unique.
You know, show me a different angle so I can get into the trenches, so to speak.
You know, where it's like it feels different.
Like I don't need to see limbs being blown off left and right.
And like the gruesomeness of war all the time.
My problem with war movies is just that they're all presented
as like a hero piece, but there just doesn't seem to be anything
that feels heroic about a war movie to me.
No, like it doesn't matter.
Like you could go through heroic actions.
You could do very noble things.
But just the the fact of watching a movie about a war,
it doesn't appeal to me unless that war happens in stars.
Yeah, that's a very different.
That's an important point, though, like that.
That is a vibe that takes some of the like grit out of it.
Yeah. And like Star Wars can be gritty, but at the same time,
and or was great, it's abstracted, right?
Well, I guess that's what it needs to be.
It just needs to be fictional.
Yeah, I'm not interested in a historic war piece
because ultimately you can look.
I mean, we're at a time now where we can look back at a lot of these wars
and there's not black and white intentions for everybody.
And I'm speaking for America.
There isn't black and white intentions in a lot of things.
And it's not good people.
Right. The time.
And it just kind of puts everybody on a pedestal in a war movie
because they're all heroes.
History is written by the victors.
Right. Yeah, it's a really interesting concept.
I mean, all these people in this movie getting shot and killed
that are just fodder, right?
Like there's so much shelling, there's so much machine gun work.
And it's just like bodies flying everywhere.
Now, this is also a conversation from three weenie little art kids.
Yes. Who have never been involved with the military.
When I was in high school, I took the ASVAB and they're like,
yeah, you should probably go in the military.
And I took that as like, oh, I probably don't have very many options in this life.
But I thought about it, honestly, for a moment.
And then 9-11 happened and I was like, y'all are fucked.
Sorry, I'm not.
I'm not going to join in war time.
My dad was in the military for a good chunk of his life, left home
at 17 to join the military and they fucked him over.
They just they, you know, he had two years left in his service.
And they're like, well, we can't afford your pension.
So we're going to bust you down to private or you can take this money and go.
And he gave him the finger bottom motorcycle and moved to San Francisco.
And then you came about.
Then I came about not fucking.
Yeah.
So he made some choices.
Boy, I'm trying to think like we are kind of anti-government
and we are pretty anti-cop and definitely anti-cop anti-establishment.
And have we I guess we're pretty anti-military now, too.
I think so. I mean, I like no, we're not anti-military.
I like a good rogue agent like a Gary.
But outside of that,
even more garry's, if you can, if you can handle it, don't worry.
We've still got one more Gary.
Maybe maybe a second run at Gary.
Maybe Gary's the one who's going to go all the way.
You called it early.
Yeah. I think you called your shot.
Man, let me tell you about this guy, Gary.
We're also three guys pushing 40.
Talk to us in 15 years, which seems to be when all of our parents get into it.
You turn 30 and you have two options.
You can get really into historical war movies or smoking meats.
And I'm an established meat smoker.
Yeah, I was much more on the meat smoking.
I mean, I like from Missouri.
And you don't have a choice. That's true.
I'm from San Francisco.
This means something completely different for me.
Yeah. You're going to have to get really into Birkenstock.
So I don't think you can have either of these options.
You are just comfortable.
I hope you like telling us all about your veganism later.
Talk that 15 years.
All right. One thing because we're just going to jump around a little bit.
One thing that I want to talk about.
So Peter Stormare is the like gunnery sergeant.
And he's a dick.
Well, he's a dick.
But like, was he trying to have an American accent?
Like, I can tell.
No, because they call him the Viking.
He's very clearly like of Swedish.
Yeah. I mean, his name is like Helmsted or something like that.
But like whatever accent he ended up doing was no accent.
And it sounds fucking weird.
I think they were just trying to if they were trying to do anything,
tone down his Swedish accent for like a Swedish American immigrant feel.
Maybe it ended up sounding so off to me like I couldn't deal with it.
I liked his character.
I mean, he was a piece of shit.
But like, yeah, I can understand a piece of shit character.
They're Marines in the shit.
Yeah. I want to just also just if we're going to just talk about characters,
the female character, I will say character in that.
What was the point of her?
They yeah.
Like she keeps writing them letters that he doesn't read,
but they still do voiceovers of her writing them.
I mean, to your point, like there is not much of a reason for that character.
It's just like, oh, there's a nurse who feels strongly for him
based on the couple of weeks that he was there with,
you know, the bends or whatever.
Yeah. The bends.
This this film supposed to it's a movie centered around the idea of Navajo
co-talkers, yet your main character is Nicolas Cage.
Ben is integral, but Ben is not the focus of this movie.
No, but you can have a movie about a subject
from the perspective of an outsider.
You can, but I don't think that's what this was at the end of the day.
That is exactly what this was.
I mean, yeah, I guess I just don't think it was done well.
Yeah. In that regard, I think John talked about that, too,
where he talked about how he really wanted this to be more about the friendship
aspect and like the camaraderie that comes from being in a fucking horrid situation.
And Studio, as you pointed out, really wanted it to be a different thing.
Yeah, it needs a rewrite.
Yeah, for sure. Because whatever they did with
Cage's character, Ender, it really kind of hollowed him out.
And he does have a bit of an arc, but it's very shallow.
Yeah. Fun fact.
Nicolas Cage learned to speak Navajo fluently for this role,
claiming it would help him understand the script better.
Jean-Louis said that Cage didn't understand which character he was supposed to be playing.
I mean, Cage also spoke some Japanese in this.
And it got me thinking, why does a kid from Jersey
who had all the troubled past that he did, like they talk about him
assaulting a priest in Cage's defense with this vice principal of his Catholic
school and things like that.
And so he's got like this whole like story of like, oh, he's just no good.
He's only good at being a Marine.
And then like he knows all this Japanese and stuff.
And it's like he actually has a conversation at one point
with a lady and her child in this town.
And it's like, did you just pick this up in like the two years
that you've been actively probably in the army or the Marines?
Like, it's a weird character point.
Yeah, it kind of makes me think I think it was family guy, like early seasons
of family guy at some point somebody speaks in Spanish.
Just, I don't know, Brian or something like that.
And he says something back and then they continue talking.
Oh, I know the line you're talking about.
But it's just like, well, they learned these things and this follow up sentence.
And then it's like, OK.
Yeah, that's the Brian and Stewie big road trip.
Yep. That's right. Yeah.
Yeah. Pepperidge Farmer remembers.
Yep.
What are we doing here again?
Oh, let's talk about Nick Cage's performance, I guess.
Yeah, it's as a Nick Cage podcast.
It's good. Yeah, it's fine.
I don't think it goes out of its way to do anything.
There's a couple scenes, but not much.
It's pretty wooden. Yeah, that was my feeling.
Yeah, it's like I didn't love the movie.
I didn't love his performance, but I think a lot of that is script.
He plays a closed off man well, so I guess he's doing that.
But, you know, it was hard for me to connect with him as like a human
to give a shit about.
So there's a few scenes where they have to call in airstrikes.
Oh, the clip from the boats.
OK, the clip from the boats.
That's terrible because it's just like we're going to use some old footage
of like gunboats or like.
But pretty expensive.
Yes. An aircraft carrier.
So beyond that, I was going to talk about the planes, the flybys.
Oh, yeah, because they have these planes that are CG and it's early 2000 CG.
But they use the same animation for every time a bomb is dropped.
So the plane always comes in from the same angle
and is only ever lit properly for the first time it's used.
So every other time it's used, it's lit in the wrong direction.
That's something I never.
Again, again, visual artist here.
So I pick up on the most noodley things.
But like this had a decent budget.
I know. Fifteen million dollars for this.
It's like they could have gotten.
I mean, you're not going to rent a fucking gunship and have it shoot.
Now, artillery.
But you could CGI that better than their like 1920s footage that they.
Yeah, yeah.
I will say that the artillery was all very accurate.
Actually, everybody was very accurate in this movie.
They got a lot of like.
You could be shooting your gun from your hip
and you would take out seven Japanese warriors.
Yeah, you could be jumping and somersaulting through the air
and you'd be taking people out artillery.
The mortar rounds were always hitting.
Yeah, like there was never a miss.
It was never questionable.
It's just like, boom, straight into this tank and this and that.
And it's like, you guys are really good at trigonometry.
John Woo's.
Well, just John was like early films again, like The Killers.
The whole final scene is a 20 minute gunfight between two guys
and usually the mafia.
And you by the time they've mowed down like the 10 named characters in the movie,
you just have guys and like painters overalls showing up
for like 50 more guys to get mowed down for the big action set piece.
And that's how that last kind of stand feels.
You have four guys and they're like, we're almost out of ammo.
And then you have a 20 minute gunfight where they don't run out of ammo.
What do you what do you got for like quotes on this movie?
What do you bring in here?
What do you bring to the party?
So word wise him, this is right after
Joe and Ben kind of start to open up to each other, be friends.
They're drinking.
And Joe has just been given
a medal for saving the day, even though it's really it was Ben's idea.
And, you know, Ben was the one who had to dress up like a Japanese soldier
to get it done, but doesn't get recognition.
And so Joe is talking about the first time he got a medal.
First one they gave me through in the ocean.
Ben, what you get that one for?
We're not dying.
15 men who fought with me got decorated to.
We're dying.
Really good line. It is a good line.
That's actually kind of the only one that stood out.
So I'm curious what Nick's got.
Good fucking marine.
Yeah, this movie is not thick with comedic lines.
You'll get a chuckle here and there throughout the movie.
But and it's not like
it never earned the character development for a lot of like
very well, like emotionally connecting lines.
But what I got is this same scene
where Ben and Enders are Joe are talking
and Joe's drunk and he's just just talking about how
he did what he was ordered to do.
And you can tell, like he has his own kind of internal struggle with it.
And Ben's just trying to like
calm him down and like get him to just be like, hey, man,
it's not your fault whatever happened.
And Cage just comes back with, yeah,
I'm a good fucking marine.
That's why they gave me this detail.
And he just kind of like looks at that.
And Ben doesn't know that, you know, push comes to shove.
He's going to shoot him.
But it's where you kind of see Cage having more internal conflict
with it as they've started to develop a friendship. Yeah.
So you can kind of see like a little bit of character growth in that moment.
And we get a good we get a good just classic cage,
just screaming scene in this film, but not a lot of gold
in terms of great line reads.
No, it's a very movie specific performance for them.
So we're not getting a Nicholas Cage performance.
We're getting a wind talkers performance for this movie.
Which I mean, the man has range.
Yes, he does. And, you know, we know he's a good actor.
He did this. Yeah, he did do this.
Yep. He also did this.
The other movie.
Bringing out the dead in 1999, Martin Scorsese, starring Nicholas Cage
as Frank Pierce and Patricia Arquette as Mary Burke and another
Paul Schrader as writer and Paul Schrader's writer.
But before we get into that, I was going to say and a cavalcade
of other amazing actors, both these movies cast astoundingly.
Really good. Yeah.
We got John Goodman.
We have Ving Rhames with a full head of hair, which I did not recognize him.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Until I paused the movie.
I was watching on Amazon.
I paused it and it gives you credits.
And I'm like.
Never seen Ving Rhames with hair.
Yeah, he looks weird with hair. Yeah.
And then you've got a Tom Sizemore, Tom Sizemore,
and Cliff Curtis is a drug dealer guy named Cy Coats.
And then a weird one that I definitely didn't recognize him
because he's made up pretty well is Mark Anthony, the like
singer songwriter is like a drug addict guy who got
I think he got shot or something at some point and he lost his mind.
Yeah. Yeah.
Drug dealer conflict.
I thought he did a good job.
He did a great job.
Also, just fun little like blink and you miss it performance from
I don't have her name written down.
The actress who played Carla on Scrubs. Yeah.
In the final scene.
But yeah, Judy, Judy Ray.
Judy Ray is. Yeah.
We did also have a single scene from somebody I fucking loved.
And that was Michael Kenneth Williams.
He just played a drug dealer who got shot and dies.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But I mean, you'll know him.
He played Omar.
Well, OK. Oh, that was in The Wire.
So he played Omar in The Wire.
He's been in like all the HBO shows. Yeah.
He's fucking he was fucking great.
I think the only other character of note that I kind of saw
was that Mary Beth Hurt was playing the like intake nurse at the hospital.
Yeah. Who is like a real piece of shit, but maybe has a heart of gold.
I don't know. But anyway, she is.
Well, she definitely has a soft spot for Mr.
Oh, for sure.
And she is Paul Schrader's Paul Schrader's wife.
Oh, is she? Yeah. Unfortunate.
She must have a soft spot for bad people.
Speaking of speaking of a I couldn't think of a way to not say it meanly.
Speaking of I'm putting out there just dumb, dumb.
She's got a soft spot for dumb, dumb.
Speaking of spouse, speaking of spouses, Nicholas Cage and Patricia
Arquette are married at this point in their lives.
Yes. They would get divorced two years later.
So, yeah, this film, Nicholas Cage plays a EMT end of his rope.
He hasn't saved a life in a year.
He's haunted by the people he's lost, specifically one young girl named Rose,
who he sees everywhere.
And the movie takes place over the course of three nights
where his first call is saving
a man who's had a heart attack and is Mary's father.
And that's how they meet.
And we follow him over the course of three nights and his ups
and downs with Mary's father kind of being the through line to
his mental state and where he's at with the world.
Yeah, it's kind of a vignetted film.
Most the three nights he has a different ride along, a different partner every night.
And they each kind of take him down different avenues of the job.
The major like through line and the piece that ties everything together, though,
is Mary, because it's his involvement
with her father's case and her that opens up, you know,
the worlds of the drug dealing.
It kind of ties in this character, Noel, who has had a head injury
and is very not right anymore.
It's the story.
Yeah, it's Nicolas Cage and Mary throughout her problems with drugs,
his problems with the trauma of his job and just how the two of them
ride through this wave, not necessarily together, but parallel.
Yeah, parallel to each other.
I mean, Nicolas Cage puts in what I thought was a great performance.
Like he's you see him losing his grip on reality more and more as the film goes on.
This movie is done in kind of a vignetted style where it's three nights,
three different partners ride alongs.
And let's start off with John Goodman, who is great.
I mean, John Goodman's great. He's always great.
Yeah, this happens to be his normal partner at this moment.
Yeah. So they ride along together.
They do a couple like smaller things, nothing huge.
Yeah, it's a Mr. O is one of the main ones.
Yeah, they introduce us to Mr.
O, who is just outrageous like drunk.
I mean, drunk homeless guy. Yeah, drunk homeless guy.
He smells really bad and they call him Mr.
O because all he ever seems to say is, oh, which Nick Cage is thrilled about
because it means nobody's going to die. Yeah.
Just gets to pick someone up and drop him off.
Yeah, you just have to deal with the hospital and nobody likes picking up Mr.
O. So every time Mr.
O comes up, there's just a big debate and Nick Cage always wants to take that job.
But so they start with Burke.
Yeah, Mary's father, who had had a heart attack, locked himself in the bathroom
and they got there 10 minutes after he'd stopped breathing.
Right. So for the remainder of the movie, he's a good guy.
Kind of in a vegetative state.
It's Nick Cage checking in at the hospital where he dropped him off, both with Mr.
Burke's doing, but really in relation to like how it's affecting his daughter, Mary.
Yeah. And kind of creating a relationship with her throughout.
So that's our like major timeline. Yeah.
So we go Burke. We got some Mr.
O. We get the conversation on the pier.
They go to stop so John Goodman can have a bit of a nap. Yeah.
Because John Goodman is completely checked out at this point from the job.
He's he tells about his plan, about how he's going to start up his own
ambulance company, like out on the island.
It will be the boss. The captain.
He'll be. Yeah. I'm the captain now.
And in like a year's time, that's kind of his plan.
And he's just like, it's just a job.
Yeah. Oh, he doesn't think about it when he's in the van at all or the ambulance at all.
There's a stop for like food or coffee. That's all he's thinking about.
In the beginning, where they're driving around, he's like, oh, man,
we got to go get some beef lo mein beef lo mein.
I mean, close in five minutes.
Chuck, we got to the expletive is to the left here.
And it's like, oh, you missed it. Yes.
Take the next turn. Oh, it's a party.
A lot. All he thinks about it is this.
And then like at the very last second, like as they're turning to the Chinese plays,
he just like slaps the dash. He's like, oh, fuck.
And Cage is just terrified. He's like, I had beef lo mein last night.
I can't have it two nights in a row. We got to go somewhere else.
What do you want? It's like, Jesus Christ, it's two a.m.
I mean, that's literally all he thinks about is like where he's going to take break.
That relationship is all about like one person distancing themselves emotionally from
the realities of their job. And then it goes into the next night.
Before we get into Marcus, I do want to talk about Frank's relationship with the dispatch
with his boss. He comes in late every night.
Oh, God. Yeah, the captain. Yeah.
The captain's like, you know, it's your ninth time being late.
You've called out sick four times. You can't call it sick anymore.
Like, you know, the higher ups want me to fire you.
He's like, good. All right. Cohen was like, not going to fire you.
It's like I told them if they want you fired, you got, you know, they got to come down here.
It's like, you know, they won't do it. You got to do it because Nick Cage just wants out.
Why did he bark at him to show he's the big dog?
Yeah. Yeah. Big dog energy.
Yeah. He just barks at him.
God, if I had a nickel for every time some big dog barked around me just to show him.
And I love the scene because he's like, I'll fire you tomorrow.
Yeah. You tomorrow.
And then as Nick Cage defeatedly is about to go out, just turns around and goes,
you know, I could bark to it's like, sure you can.
I was going to say I used to have this job that I fucking hated.
And, you know, like 80 percent of the time it was OK, but there were things that they just asked me
to do or out that were outside of what I had originally agreed to do.
But stuff always.
Now, that's what you agreed to do.
Yeah. Always. But stuff. And then they want me to do outside the but stuff.
Yeah. Which, you know, it's always in.
Yeah. Got to be in the but.
I'm a clean guy. I don't like messes.
I got to start over. We laughed.
Yeah. Welcome back to Cajun Match.
Going right about way to Nicholas Cage.
Oh, is that what it is?
Every time somebody laughs, we have to start the episode over.
Only on the serious episodes.
OK. OK. That's a fun challenge for season two.
But yeah, they made me do Christmas lights.
And it sounds stupid to be like, oh, they made me put up Christmas lighting for rich people.
And it's like, no, fuck that.
I don't like the holiday and I don't want to do it.
I was always trying to get fired.
And there was one day like I get called in boss's office.
He's fucking tearing me a new one about something that isn't relating to me.
It's like I was just supposed to supervise somebody and he put me on a different job.
And then they fucked up elsewhere.
He's like, giving me the right act.
I just fucking toss my keys down.
I'm like, fine. Fucking fire me.
Fire me right now.
Get me out of here.
Like, you fucking hate having me here.
Just fire me. He looks me in the eyes and he's just like, Nick, it's a bigger punishment to keep you.
So night two, Marcus night.
Yeah. Yeah.
So Marcus played by Ving Rhames, who with hair with hair is a hot air character.
And he's so fucking good.
He's like more in the realm of, you know, they're doing God's work there.
They're saving people.
He's fully leaning into the religious redemption and it's Jesus saving people.
It's like, yeah.
So Marcus is angle and this is like, it's all in Jesus's hands.
You know, when things go well, they did a great job.
When things don't go well, well, that's just God's will.
And he even talks about how, you know, he pulled a jumper off a roof and they cage like,
yeah, that happened.
You know, and Ireland wants this woman was going to jump in like the wind push her back.
It's like the classic story of the cliffs of Nick.
Yeah.
And Nick cage is, you know, and he's like, well, the wind helped.
And Ving Rhames gives one of my favorite readings of his is I'll preach heaven and beat the hell out of you, son.
I think my favorite thing was that as like any good Christian, he seems horny as fucking shit.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I didn't write it down because I knew we were going to talk about it regardless.
There are a lot of prostitutes in this movie because it's.
Yeah.
It's New York, Manhattan in the 90s.
And by God, it's like every other shot is a hooker and it's a no, no, no, because it's the 90s.
So it's OK to call him hooker still.
And also there is a very professional difference between the two.
So the scene with Ving Rhames and Nick Cage, just like driving through like Times Square or something.
And being Rames just has like a huge fan of cash that he's just like waving in front of his face.
He's like, let's go look at the hookers.
Yes.
Oh, well, he's so horny for Queen Latifah as the dispatcher for that night.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, love.
Apparently, they went on a blind date once and she like smashed a bottle over his head.
Yeah, she seems bad.
Why are you going to bring that up?
Yeah.
I mean, being Rames steals this movie and they really put him right in the middle of it.
So they do wind up saving someone that well saving one someone that night.
They have two good moves that night.
Their big action is they go to this nightclub.
I love the music in this movie.
It's great.
And great soundtrack. Super deep.
And I don't know, maybe this recording was for this soundtrack, but there's a super deep
Jane's Addiction cut when they're in this club that I've only ever heard on a really weird
B side album.
So maybe it was recorded for this movie.
I don't know.
But just like, oh, Scorsese always has great music in his films.
He does.
Again, peak 90s movie, just industrial club with a bunch of people in black leather.
Oh, yeah.
It's definitely like they go to the goth.
Club that plays Jane's Addiction.
Yep.
Because goths.
Yeah.
Love Jane's Addiction.
Yeah, that's their thing.
But we have this scene of them like going off that look.
They have this scene.
They have this scene going on.
How many more times can we hear you to start this?
Welcome back to Cage Magical and around about wave meeting, Nicholas Cage.
I'm your host, Sean.
He was my co-host.
They have this scene like going to this nightclub.
There was a cardiac arrest and they show up, bring all their shit up top,
and they're kind of looking around.
They scope the scene and they're like, yeah, there's drugs.
There's this drug that they've talked about that's hot on the scene.
Red Death.
Yeah.
Which is like your typical heroin, whatever.
I mean, Ving Rhames' original response to the body.
Oh, shit, he did.
Yeah.
Nick Cage checks and he's like, oh, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
He checks and he's like, oh, he's got like a pulse.
So they're the narco.
Yeah.
So they get the Narcan out.
Narcan.
Do you just want to do it?
Yeah.
Ving Rhames goes into a dialogue with the rest of the people that are there,
which happens to be the remainder of the band.
The person on the ground is like the singer or something.
The drummer is there and there's some groupies and there's just a dialogue.
I rebuke the spirit of drugs in the name of Jesus.
What's his name?
Ivy Banging.
What do you mean Ivy Banging?
Ivy Banging.
The hell kind of name is Ivy Banging.
I don't know his real name.
It's Frederick Smith.
Okay, Freddy.
It's Frederick.
Okay, Ivy Banging, we're going to bring you back from the dead.
Dear Lord, here I am again, asking one more chance for a sinner.
Please Lord, bring back Ivy Banging, Lord.
You have the power, Jesus.
You have the might.
You have the super light to spare this worthless man.
And Ivy Banging sits up.
Rise up, Ivy Banging, and start your life anew.
Lord, oh thank you, Lord.
What happened?
So there's only two things that I do well in this life and that's the...
A Ving Rhames impression.
Ving Rhames impression and Gary Faulkner impression.
Yeah, you're pretty good at both.
So thank you very much.
But that fucking scene is so fucking funny because while they're sitting there like,
and Marcus is doing all of this, Nick Cage is like slyly putting the Narcan into Ivy Banging.
Into Ivy Banging, so like Marcus has everybody holding hands and like holding this like little
Jesus vigil over the goth boy just so that they can like posture this whole scene.
Marcus is very theatrical and fun.
Everybody's got their thing, their shtick, and Marcus is just very over the top.
And so...
I mean, one of the outcomes of that is like he also is kind of a drunk and he has a bunch of booze
in his work bag and then they fucking crash the ambulance.
Yes.
So that comes in after their next call.
So this is in a kind of burnt out old building.
They find a young teenager's...
I mean, a crack den's a crack den.
Yeah, it's a crack den.
And again, a great Marcus line, oh shit, a fat crack head.
Because there's a pregnant woman who...
I forgot about that line.
They're saying is having like in cardiac arrest, no, she's in labor and her boyfriend is just like,
impossible, we're virgins.
While she's actively giving birth to twins.
Yeah, and I'm looking at him and I'm like, yes, you are.
And then he even says like, it's a miracle.
But yeah, they...
My favorite part about like giving birth is like Nicholas Cage is down there.
He's like, oh, there's three legs.
And then Fingrave's like, that's too many legs.
Well, I was going to say they look down.
It's a breech birth because there are three legs ticking out.
Yeah.
So they have to save the baby.
Fingrave's got a healthy baby boy, Nick Cage.
Gets the one that dies.
Yeah.
So he doesn't save someone.
He's giving it CPR all the way back to the hospital and it just doesn't make it.
Yeah.
So Fingrave is on cloud nine because he saved a baby boy or got to deliver a baby boy.
And Nick Cage is only focusing on the one that died, not the one that lived.
And they get in that ambulance and they're driving and Nick Cage just, you know, he's like,
oh, fuck it.
You know, we're done.
We need like, it's time for a drink.
We've had our win for the day.
And so he's got an orange juice in the medical bag.
Yeah.
Marius just has his bag and he's got like a container that would hold like saline solution
or something.
Yeah.
It's definitely a medical container and Cage pulls it out.
He's like, I fucking hate gin and starts pouring out gin and juices.
And then Marcus, this is where they get another call.
And Cage is like, don't take it.
Don't take it.
We're done.
Just tell him we're drunk.
Tell him like, like the bus is broken down.
And just tell him anything.
Because it's love.
Yeah.
And Marcus is just on such a high.
He's like, just fucking give me another one.
I'll fucking save somebody.
And he takes the call and like speeds off and immediately a cab pulls out in front of them
and he swerves and manages to just flip and roll the ambulance with them in it.
They both get out laughing.
Yeah.
Praise Jesus.
Yeah.
Marcus is like, oh, we made it.
And Cage is like, fuck this.
I quit.
And just like walks away into the night.
But that is kind of the motivation for him to go seek out Mary again.
Nick Cage follows her to her dealer.
And yeah, she's they mentioned that she mentioned she used to be a junkie,
but this is where she's she could be married.
The nun or marry the junkie.
And it didn't matter to her.
Yeah.
She just wants Cage to like hang out outside.
So she's not like using and staying there.
She just wants to like leave.
But ends up she's there.
He goes upstairs to like find her after whatever they're pre record pre.
We it's very charming drug dealer.
Yes.
I is great.
I really like the way he approaches drug dealing.
I think it seems like a good dude.
Like, yeah, you don't ever repeat customers if you kill them.
Yeah.
Good, good fucking business practice.
And he's got an aquarium.
That's pretty cool.
Some saltwater fish.
That's very chill vibes.
Takes a lot of work.
Yeah.
But you know, Nick Cage gets side gives him something to help him sleep.
He he has a bad reaction to the drugs like King Kong's his way out of there,
like grabs Mary over the shoulder and like gets her out of there.
Yeah.
And I love size line as he's getting in the elevator.
You owe me ten dollars.
Yeah.
So night three, we are teamed up with Tom Wolves, his former his former partner
that he used to ride with.
But he had Tom Sizemore.
Yeah.
Way of dealing with his job is to just be like, I get to decide who lives and dies
to the point where he tries to do a murder.
I don't think it's like he's actively trying to murder somebody,
but he's trying to kill fucking he's trying to kill that guy.
He hates no, he hates no.
He's a very heated his way of just like living with the stress and trauma.
The only way he can like cope cope or whatever is having this like big moment
because even when they're driving like this big violent moment when they're driving,
Cage is like, I just got to like break some windows or something.
And Tom's like, well, we can't like what?
Why are we doing it?
What's the point?
We need something.
There's got to be a reason.
And then they roll up on a taxi who's like who stopped in a crosswalk.
And he gets into a racist, pretty racist, but very heated road rage exchange.
And it's like, that's all he needed.
Like, it's never about the person that he's accosting or upset with.
He just needs a reason to justify the way he feels.
Yes.
He's kind of like the manifestation of like everything that could go wrong,
like all the stresses of this job, all the shit that you have to see the like depravity of humanity.
Yeah, he's a cautionary tale.
Right.
And he's he's at the precipice.
Yeah.
And maybe you're right.
Maybe he isn't going to do a murder necessarily, but like he's so close.
No one would have died if Nick was dead.
He most likely would have.
Even if he didn't kill him, he would have left him for dead.
Right.
That's what I mean when I say murderer.
He's a killer because he would have killed somebody.
I feel it's complicated because he says like he was released.
Nick Cage is like, but he's crazy.
He's not a criminal.
He's crazy.
And he's like, why isn't anybody locking him up?
Why isn't anybody doing anything about him?
It's like this is just an aspect of society.
We still have this problem.
Yeah, people with mental health issues for any number of tragic reasons,
just being pushed in and out of the system, be it hospitals, mental care facilities and whatnot.
And there's never a resolution or there doesn't seem to be like a way to help these people on
the streets. And all Tom sees is this weight on society of somebody that's being like
dragged in and out.
And it's when Tom sees him in this scene and he's breaking car windows with a baseball bat,
just because.
Yeah. Well, and going to your thing about how, you know, there's no point to just like Nick Cage
says he wants to smash something and he says there's no point to it.
When Noel is smashing windows, it's Nick Cage's job to distract him.
No tells him to like take a crack at it.
So Nick Cage like smashes out like a car window and Tom's like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
Yeah, I think that was more of like Tom just wanted him to like go up there and
distract him and push him over.
He thought it was like a simple plan.
Nick Cage has more history with Nolan.
He was never into the plan to begin with.
Tom is a broken like, I mean, kind of like how John Goodman had checked out by just being like,
I'm almost done.
And everybody is broken.
Yeah.
In this movie, nobody is handling things well.
But the way John Goodman's character was just like, I'm almost done.
I can do this for another year.
Then I'm going to be the boss.
Tom's a lifer and Tom's just like, I'm going to do whatever I want.
Right. And he's compressing his rage down constantly because he's dealing with shit that
people shouldn't fucking have to look at in a day to day situation.
Then we get into how Nick Cage deals with things, how he deals with control of life and death by
deciding that Mary's dad has had enough.
Unlike Tom, who just was like, I'm going to get my aggression out with Noel.
When you see how Nick Cage decides to take out Mary's dad, it is completely premeditated
because he so what he does is he's moving to the ICU.
Nick Cage goes in there, says, you know, I'm the one
who brought him in, goes in, close, close the curtains.
He's already got heart sensor pads on his body, so he removes all the stuff.
So the machine's tracking his heartbeat and just lets the man die and lets the man code
before putting everything back in.
So it's important to note that we've had a couple scenes leading up to this where Mr. Burke,
you know, has an episode or whatever at the hospital.
Pretty much every time Cage is there, there will be a scene where Mr.
Burke's either like Mr. Burke wakes up and like or his volume wears off and he like is
trying to get the tube out of his throat or his heart fails again.
They talk about how they have to shock him 13 times.
I think it's insane.
Like he's just constantly the family wants to keep him alive because the wife believes in miracles.
That's what the nurse tells Nick Cage, Nick Cage is having this like presumably in his head,
telepathic conversation with Mr.
Burke.
It's not nearly as weird as that when he's with him.
He is just hearing Mr.
Burke say, let him go.
Desire to die and Nick Cage is on no sleep and all caffeine and yet some drugs to some drugs.
He is definitely not in his right mind throughout most of this movie.
His belief is Burke just wants to die.
I think one thing that we're kind of missing, part of the reason he seems to be in my mind
on a little bit of a high is that he did end up saving the drug dealer.
He saves the drug dealer and almost would have fallen off the roof in the process.
So also that was beautiful with all the sparks out into the city sky.
Yeah, it was really nice.
Kind of has this near-death experience as well as finally saving someone.
So yeah, he is running that high.
So we have that scene.
Then we have the Noel kick in.
All right.
So he's now saved two lives.
Yes, he saved two lives.
Well, because he brings Noel in and he is still covered in Noel's blood when he comes in.
And that's when he sees that Mr.
Burke has been moved out of the emergency room.
He's got a unit in ICU and that's when he goes and does what he was going to do.
He does his mercy killing.
Yeah.
Then goes to Marius to tell her her father guy that they resuscitate him one too many times.
They hold each other as he nods off.
That's pretty much it.
I liked this one.
I thought it was really good too.
It was really good.
I thought we had a good performance from Cage.
And I thought we had a good performance from everyone.
It was really just.
Well, it's filmed really well.
Like, I mean, you talked about being a little stoned and then kind of having uppers and
everything.
It's like the upper downer.
The way it's filmed feels that way.
Like, it's so blown out and it's so like light affects you in a major way.
Oh, the lighting in this movie was incredible.
The DP like fucking killed me.
Really well.
I wanted to just briefly touch on how during every ride, there's a very different intention
with the shots when he gets when you get to Tom, like when Tom starts driving off, it's
just really all like everything sped up quick shots, like just the the manic mania.
Yeah, there's a manic intensity to the calls that they take.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's when they're structured like in the scene,
when they're in the scene, they're slower, they're calm, they're in control,
they're professionals.
Yeah.
But like that getting to and fro that AB connection of everything, it's very intense.
And it's it's kind of like a little drug trap.
I kind of felt like this movie, I wrote this movie sort of like there's something out there.
And I don't think it's a Guy Ritchie movie, but it feels like this could have been a Guy
Ritchie.
For sure.
So I know, Peter, you have some thoughts on Schrader's writing for this because I wanted
to say that, man, Schrader shouldn't direct.
Well, OK, fully, fully agree.
Schrader should not direct.
I think he's a bad director.
I think he's a better competent writer.
This is an adaptation of a novel, though.
That's what I was going to say.
So I don't think that Schrader's original work is very good.
I think that he did a good job for this movie, but there's a lot that was the groundwork.
Was there a foundation is there?
Everything I read about it was it's pretty close to the original story.
Like there.
Yeah.
He didn't take a lot of liberties in this one, which is good.
But I was talking to Josie about this and I was like, man, if he had done something
about like fringe people in New York on a decade by decade basis.
So like he had taxi driver.
Oh, yeah.
If he had done something was taxi driver in the 80s.
Yeah, I think so.
So we got taxi driver.
We got this.
If he did some this in the 90s, if he had done something like in the 2000s
and maybe done like a New York in the 70s movie.
Right.
Kind of covering these fringe people that I mean, that would have been a great arc.
And it would have been a really fun story.
But we got things like Dog Eat Dog and the other one, everything else instead.
Fun fact about the film.
This was one of the last two films to be released to the Laserdisc.
You want to give me a guess what the other one was?
Did it include Richard Gere?
No, it's got Johnny Depp in it, though.
I prefer Richard Gere.
I do, too.
Also Christopher Walken.
Late 90s.
Wait, Sleepy Hollow.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, those were the last two movies released to Laserdisc.
What a fucking bummer.
Yeah, I had a professor that's going out with a fart.
I had a professor in Montana who would invite all of the lighting staff members to come
over and we would have a big thank you thing every year.
And like his wife would make all this food.
He'd buy all this beer.
And once everybody was drunk, we'd go back into his house and he would put on Pink Floyd's
Pulse Tour on Laserdisc and he would just air drum through the whole thing because he was
just crouched.
Nice.
I fucking loved Mark.
He was a great professor.
Schrader, so Schrader went on a ride along before he wrote the script on that ride along.
He saw a gentleman who had been severed in twain.
I honestly probably got to be now.
I'm going to go silver lining here.
A pretty great situation for some people because all clothes shopping would be half off.
Sean, have you got any quotes for this?
I do.
Oh, well, why don't you why don't you put one on my ear holes?
Right on those ear holes.
Put it on my ear holes.
Vibrate those holes.
They just got no Nick Cage is just talking to me.
Nick Cage is just talk no holes.
Nick Cage is just talking into the ambulance because no one wants to die and won't kill
himself and Nick Cage convinced him to get in the ambulance by saying there's a special
room at the hospital where they'll kill you.
So he gets in.
That's when they go and pick up a drug dealer who had gotten a shot.
And he's dying in the back and Nick Cage is, you know, it's like you're not going to die.
And no one's like, what?
It's like you're going to die.
He's not.
And he's having no like hold the guy's arms up and he's like, hold this.
If you let go, I swear I won't kill you.
I fucking love that.
That was a good line.
Do you have a Nick Cage quote for this?
I do.
And it's from when he was riding around with Tom and he's in the back of the bus,
the back of the ambulance and Tom's just looking back there.
He's like, what are you doing back there?
And Cage is concocting this like IV cocktail for himself.
Then he comes back up into the front and he's got like an oxygen mask on and he's got an IV.
And they're just having this conversation.
And Cage is just like through his oxygen mask.
He's like, it's great to be drunk.
Sobriety is killing me.
His character is such a sad sack.
He's always saying like, I don't feel good.
I feel sick.
I can't be here.
It's like he just fucking hates his job.
Yeah.
Well, he also only consists on alcohol and coffee.
He never eats.
Eat a fucking sandwich, dude.
Eat some chicken.
Yeah.
Eat a half chicken and fries.
He is very sickly looking throughout this movie.
So malnourished for sure.
Nick, what's your vote?
I mean, I'm bringing out the dead guy.
I'm.
Yeah, I've been very pro on this movie for a long time.
It's it's weird.
It it almost feels like it shouldn't be in this category
because of how like kind of comedic the movie comes across.
It's very dark.
It's very serious, but it's got some comedy.
But most dark things in life.
Yeah, that's how people it's about.
It's about people coping with time.
And a lot of people do that with comedy.
Yeah, I'm a I'm 100 percent bringing out the dead is my choice.
So that's going forward.
So this week in Cage, there is a Lords of War.
They're doing a sequel to Lord of War
where with Nick Cage and Bill Skarsgard,
where Bill Skarsgard is going to play Nick Cage's son, who is also an arms dealer.
Now, this might just be like everybody's on board.
It isn't like maybe in production.
I don't know. Yeah.
I'm just saying that news I read this week.
Yeah. Also, Nick Cage's earliest memory was being in the womb.
Yes.
I still need to watch the 60 minutes.
I'm a bad Nick Cage.
It was fine.
You get to learn about him having a raven and like a snake.
I wish I had a raven.
Yeah, I wish I had a snake.
Huguen.
My mom was afraid of.
Well, he's still afraid of snakes.
Well, I haven't checked in.
Yeah, she might be OK.
Now I'll bring a snake home next time.
Good. That's a way to figure out if someone's still afraid of snakes.
Peter, what are we watching next?
Next up, we've got the last of the six seeds versus 11 seeds
in the fucking weird category.
Mom and Dad with Selma Blair and where I think they all have to kill their kids.
I don't know.
It looks like the purge meets.
Yeah, I think it's like there's some kind of like brain virus,
airborne disease or something that makes parents turn against their kids.
Yeah.
And then it's up against next, which is where he is.
I think a charlatan who can predict the future.
He has some knowledge of the future and a bad thing's going to happen.
Yeah, there's there's two.
There's one called knowing and there's one called next.
Yeah, they are very much the same.
It's upsetting that they're not going against each other.
Yeah, they could, Sean.
They could.
I was looking at the bracket.
They both would have to go to the final round of fucking weird.
Yep.
And I don't know.
I haven't watched either of those films yet, but it seems like one of them will lose to Mandy.
But who knows?
Something will lose to Mandy.
Something will lose to color out of space, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Not to say that we pick favorites, but obviously those are those are standouts.
There are good movies and there are bad movies.
Yes.
And then there are Nick Cage movies.
Good night, everybody.
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Guys, I'm bad at segues.
And when I have like a good outro, you guys just like, no, we can't have that.
You didn't.
That's not a good time to have an outro.
Just because you outro doesn't mean you can't have an outro.
Outro doesn't mean we're with you.
That's a shitty spot to leave.
We have to do the other stuff.
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Also, if anybody wants to watch this week's movies,
you know, when talkers is on HBO and bringing out the dead is on Paramount plus and.
So Amazon with Showtime, I think I just.
Oh, yes, I had HBO.
I should have watched one time.
There is also the pirate bay.
There's that too.
Not that I get a Plex account.
What's Plex?
How exactly isn't that just people pirating movies and putting them into an online folder?
Yeah, I think that's it.
How is that different?
I don't know.
Don't ask us.
Thanks, everybody.
Not going to say it again.
I said it twice.
Yeah, you're done.
We we.
Good night, everybody.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Bye bye.
Because my initial idea was a twink coin toss coin coin cost a twink cost twink.
It cost you get a very different thing or twink tax.
I got to pay the troll toll.
Yeah.
Plus, I'm too fat.
I'm more of a I'm more of a bear cub.
Now, have we ever been shy about opening them up?
Do it at a poignant moment.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's talk about a really emotional scene.
As soon as he gets real serious, he's going to tell us like the story of like
his great aunt, like dying in his arms.
No, that's my only living family member.
Your great aunt.
Yeah, for now.
Keep that in, Peter.
I will.
Good.
Did you get that?
No.
Are we all going to stop in five minutes?
Thanks, Mom.
Guys, guys have to pee.
We just stopped.
I didn't have to pee then.
Do it in your pants.
I was going to say it's your chair, but it's my chair.
Yeah.
Fuck your chair up.
You guys are going to have to pee now.
I'm going to have to pee.
You guys are going to have to pee now.
God damn it.
Go.
You're going to have to hold it.