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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Run us through your thought process for your method podcasting, please.

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Oh, I don't know if there were like thoughts that like precluded me doing this,

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but I kind of thought like Nick Cage is this great, like

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a well known like method actor, like or he brings a lot of method into his acting,

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which is to say that like he puts himself in the shoes or the

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the mental state of the character.

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So like a lot of with leaving Las Vegas, there was a lot of time spent drunk

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and filming himself drunk and things like that to find out how he was in that situation.

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So and something like Renfield recently, he just was Dracula on set.

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Yeah, pretty much all the time.

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He says it wasn't all the time, but I mean, who knows?

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You had the chance to just have people call you Dracula and wear a cape all the time.

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Wouldn't you do it? Yes. Or count or count.

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So if you're nasty.

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I was doing a back to back this morning and in bringing out the dead,

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Nicholas Cage plays a very burned out paramedic and he exists

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just on like caffeine and whiskey and he doesn't eat so much,

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but he's like always really tired.

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So I I thought I'd try to put myself in that mindset while I was watching

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specifically that movie to see if it affected things.

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So I I smoked some weed, but that's fine.

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I live in Washington and then I drink a whole lot of caffeine

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to make myself like really out of it.

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So I was like battling tired and like hyperactivity and stress

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throughout the whole movie.

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And I will say it made it interesting.

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And we can talk about that more.

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But like when we get to that movie.

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But so, you know, I was just trying to put myself

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into his character's shoes as much as he put himself into his shoes

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or into that character's shoes, just so I could see what it was like.

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And I don't regret it, but I wouldn't have done it on the day

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that we record if I did it again.

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You hear that, people?

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Nick is willing to put his body through real stupid things

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for your entertainment. Yeah.

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Welcome back to Cage match, Colin, a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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Oh, I tasted the fat of it.

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So you can't tell it's going to be a very special episode.

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We cannot use this.

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No, we're using it. I'm not.

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I'm not. I don't do. I don't do two of these.

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Oh, God. This is not usable.

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Oh, it's perfectly usable. It is not.

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We're using it. We are.

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We are. All right.

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So what's the conceit of this podcast?

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Welcome back to Cage match, Colin, a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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Peter.

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I'm our producer.

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Hello. I'm here.

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I'm one of the hosts, Sean, here with my other host.

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Wiggle Bottoms McClure.

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Yep. Nick.

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As you can tell, this is going to be a interesting episode.

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It's going to be a good one.

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We're going to be like clean.

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We're going to be fucking cutting it nice.

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We're going to be like. Yeah.

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It's a solid start. Yeah.

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You already got yelled at.

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This show is one where we take 64.

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I know that it was a collective.

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Oh, OK. OK. Good. Including me.

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If it's an everybody's in trouble, that's fine.

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Yeah. We're all going to time out.

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See you guys in 10 minutes.

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This show is off the rails already.

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This show is where we take 64 of Nicholas Cage is best movies,

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more notable, more notable movies.

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And we're going to systematically go through them,

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break them down and figure out what Nick Cage's best film is

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as decided by us to total authorities and subjects.

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Yeah, I think at this point, you guys probably can claim that.

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I were about like 80 hours of Nick Cage movies in.

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I was actually watching the movies this week and I was sitting there

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and I was like, man, I almost never watch movies without Nick Cage now.

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And it's actually like stunning when I do watch one,

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because I'll be watching and I'm like, there's Nick Cage.

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There's no Nick Cage.

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Like, I don't know any of these people, even though I know all of them,

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because it's still a Marvel movie or some shit like that.

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I and it's like, huh? You're right.

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No, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I did go see Guardians of the Galaxy

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Volume three and the whole time I'm like, something's missing.

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It's Nick Cage. Nick Cage.

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You know, he could have been a great Kevin Bacon stand in

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for the holiday special to.

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Yeah, but the holiday special, that's not like movie star stuff.

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That's a holiday special.

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Yeah, that's true. He doesn't do not movie star stuff.

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That's like direct streaming.

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Yeah, good point. Good point.

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That's below our Nicholas, which is why he's not in the now

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canceled National Treasure TV show.

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I wonder why it got canceled. No, Nicholas Cage.

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Yeah, that's probably its only issue.

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Nicholas Cage might come cheap, but he still won't do TV.

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I can't blame him, you know.

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I don't want to work that hard.

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You got to have your scruples, right?

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Well, TV's hard.

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There's the shooting schedule is intense.

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Fucking sucks.

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Can't just come in and out like 10 days, five million dollars.

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That's right. You can't just sit in front of a green screen

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and in a cowboy hat and talk to the camera for,

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I'm assuming, about six hours worth of work or yell about a piano

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or favorite chair.

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He was actually in that scene, though.

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Oh, OK. Yeah, had to be.

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There was a fight. Yeah.

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Which is not in either of the movies we watched this week,

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because this week we watched Bringing Out the Dead 1999

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and Windtalkers 2000 2002.

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Yeah. So not too far apart.

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No, not logically.

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Both directed by kind of prestige directors.

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Yeah. And both box office bombs, too.

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They were real both definite failures outside of the directors niche.

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Yeah, for sure.

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In terms of the bracket, this is the serious guy bracket.

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And we have the succeed,

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which is bringing up the dead against the 11 seed, which is wind talkers.

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So serious, serious cage.

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So there will be no jokes in this comedy podcast.

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No. Peter will cut out any levity.

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Absolutely. If we laugh once cut, we'll start over.

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It's just going to be quacked.

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Yeah. Now, every time we laugh, we have to start over.

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No quack it.

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Damn it. Welcome back to Cage Match,

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calling around about way of meeting Nicolas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick and our producer.

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Peter. Hello. No humor.

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Not we're fucked. God damn it hurts.

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Let's just get into this because I cannot right now.

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What do you guys want to talk about first?

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Let's do wind talkers. Sure.

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Nick, do you have a high coup this week?

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I don't have a high coup this week.

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Do you have anything?

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I have cold sweats. Good.

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That's perfect. That is actually perfect for this.

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All right. Summarize wind talkers for us.

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So it's been a really long time since I've watched a war movie.

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Nick Cage is this military guy who went through some really shitty

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action on the Solomon Islands and he gets paired up with a Navajo

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code talker guy.

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This is in World War Two and he's like protecting him

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but also like dominantly protecting the code.

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So he's got orders like if the code talker was to be taken,

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he has to like kill him.

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And so it's just a couple small elements of the Pacific front.

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Nick Cage trying to keep himself emotionally distant from this guy,

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even though he has to spend all this time with him and then, you know, drama ensues.

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Yeah, that's pretty good.

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Also, just an apology from the last episode when we were talking about introducing

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this episode, I said incorrectly that it was about Apache code breakers.

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Yeah, it's Navajo. Yeah.

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Yeah. OK. So that's pretty good.

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Yeah, I thought so. That was great.

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No, that's actually pretty much the story and it goes for two hours and 14 minutes.

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Nicholas Cage plays Joe Enders and Adam Beach plays Ben Yazzie,

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Yazzie, which is a great name, except I kept thinking Ben Gazi the whole time.

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Yeah, me too. Every time his name came up, it's like Ben Gazi, Ben Gazi.

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Oh, I was thinking Ben Yazzie, Krosha from Zero Punctuation.

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Yeah, that's a good one, too.

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The cast for this movie, though, was fucking awesome.

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Yeah, no, there were so many people in this movie.

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Christian Slater.

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You always know you're going to have a fun time with Christian Slater.

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Yeah. Once upon a time, he did things. Yeah.

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Yeah. With his time, Mark Ruffalo.

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Yeah, Mark Ruffalo.

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He had a pretty small part.

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I mean, as a Mark Ruffalo and. Yeah. Yeah.

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Honestly, I think he had the weakest bits of script like his dialogue.

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Fucking sucked. Yeah.

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Like when he was talking about, oh, Santorini.

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Oh, you got to go to Santorini.

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It's like, oh, man, you're just like some very bad stereotype. Yeah.

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There was a lot of stereotyping in here because like, what's his face?

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Noah Emmerich, the guy with the big gun, the kind of like loose, not loosely racist.

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The racist guy named Chick. Yeah.

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The guy that I kept like, I couldn't stop thinking just like, oh, he's like

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Biff from. Yeah.

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He's the Biff of this movie is the Biff.

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But he does actually kind of get a little character redemption in the end.

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He's the one he has.

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He's one of the few characters who has like a full arc where he starts off as

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I'm racist and I hate everybody who's not a white American,

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including my own allies who just happen to be Navajo.

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Yeah. And then he gets saved and he's like,

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you know, my granddad used to tell me stories about killing engines.

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And now who knows, maybe in 50 years, we'll

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sit around with expletive for a Japanese person and have a beer.

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And like, oh, yeah, I know it's a period.

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So you can have a Sapporo. Yeah. Yeah.

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I know it's a period piece, which sounds fine to me right now.

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Yeah, that's not pretty good.

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But I haven't really eaten today, so.

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But yeah, I mean, Ruffalo's character basically is like, I'm Greek.

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And the end of his story arc is I'm Greek. Yeah. Yeah.

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And alive still. Yeah.

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Which I could have sworn he got shot in the chest in that final shootout.

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He did make it, but I remember him getting shot at one point

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because there were only four of them and one of them definitely got shot in the chest.

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Oh, you know, if we're talking about the final shootout,

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can we talk about the end credits real quick?

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How fucking weird and kind of bullshitty was it that they put up footage

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of the characters in black and white from the movie

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next to their names, like in slow motion, like it was an in memoriam. Yeah.

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But it's not a true story story.

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There was no indication that this is based on any real people.

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And then they just slow motion in memoriam, everybody. Yeah.

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And it's like, OK, I'm like, I'm going to watch

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the credits for us. No, I'm done.

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OK, so we can break it down in three parts.

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Solomon Islands, Hawaii, Saipan.

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It opens up on the Solomon Islands.

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We've got a bunch of Marines.

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Nick Cage is a Marine in this.

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They're securing this swamp.

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They have to hold this position.

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He refuses to retreat.

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He's not going to retreat.

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His orders are to hold it and everyone does.

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His entire unit gets killed and he is injured,

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which will in the next scene in Hawaii

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kind of introduce us to this nurse who takes a liking to him,

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kind of helps him recuperate.

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He's got this fucked up ear because of a grenade.

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And so his balance is out and he can't really hear so well.

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That only comes up a little bit.

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It's not necessarily that's not a plot point in this film.

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Yeah, really. I think they could have played that up more, but

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or just not done that at all.

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They use it as a character point for like why he ended up

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getting stuck in this detail, right?

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Because he was a good fucking Marine.

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He held the swamp to literally the last man.

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Yeah. And so now it's like, oh, despite his little injury,

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he's going to be the guy that has to kill the Navajo Code Talker.

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If necessary, because he's a good fucking Marine.

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Him and Slater are given the same detail with a different Code Talker.

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Yeah, we've got Ben with Nicolas Cage and Charlie,

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who is rolling with Christian Slater and Slater's character is quick,

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fast becomes friends with his Code Talker.

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They discover a level of music.

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They actually start bonding.

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And of course, push comes to shove.

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Slater can't do it. Yeah.

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So after Hawaii, we've kind of got Cage's ender going back into active duty.

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He gets sent on this

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detail with the Code Talkers back out to Saipan.

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And from here, we get a couple different

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engagement zones, I guess you'd call it.

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There's quite a few of these, and they all kind of blended together for me.

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There are three major fights, three major engagements.

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Yeah, no four, if you count the town. Yeah, four.

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So yeah, the first one is when they first get there and they're taking.

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Yeah, they kind of take that beachhead. Yeah.

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And then they're just moving north through Saipan.

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And there's the friendly fire incident. Yeah.

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Then the town and then the final minefield debacle. Yes.

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Yeah, no, you're right.

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They do all the fight scenes in this really do blend together.

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And yeah, it's a war film, but.

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It could have easily cut half an hour of this film,

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and it would have had the same impact.

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No, I feel like I'm not a fan of war films.

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I'm not either.

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And when I was watching this, I was actually thinking like,

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it's been a really long time since I've watched a war movie.

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And war movies actually handle this violence a lot differently

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because it is it's graphic without exploiting the violence.

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No, it's not. It shows how truly shitty this is.

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But when a person is shot, there is an exit wound.

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There's blood.

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John Wu went with a very realistic take on war.

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The battle scenes are kind of graphic.

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I mean, in the very opening of one of them,

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like you get a guy whose hand is chopped off with a katana.

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At one point, a character's head is cut off with a katana.

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There is just a limb gets blown off.

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You know, there's lots of different.

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Yeah, very, very graphic.

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A lot of things with mines.

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There's a lot of artillery shelling in this.

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Every time someone goes back to like help their buddy, they generally get mowed down.

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No, it's I mean, it's terrible.

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And I'm assuming it's realistic.

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Drop down in the comments if you've ever been.

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Please don't.

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It's interesting thinking about like, you know, Band of Brothers

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or any of those movies or back to like Saving Private Ryan and things like that.

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They have very long and I was I was thinking when I was watching this,

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I was like the opening Solomon Islands scene is

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a fairly long feeling depiction of this.

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But then I was thinking back to like Saving Private Ryan,

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where it was like almost like 25 minutes or some shit like that.

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It's like insanely long just on the D-Day landings and stuff like that.

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Yeah. And I mean, I'm not going to go back and watch Saving Private Ryan

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because like we established, I'm not really a war movie guy, but it's intense.

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It's not like overly gory.

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But one interesting thing I found out about this is

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John Woo really tried to make this in kind of war drama,

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a very serious depiction of war.

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And the studio was like, no, we want this to be more of an action film.

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This was supposed to come out in 2001.

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It got bumped for obvious reasons.

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And they made him take out half an hour

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of content, most of which was more gruesome wartime war fighting.

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So half an hour of this movie was cut and that was largely more combat.

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Speaking of this being a John Woo movie, the second movie is a Martin Scorsese.

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So good names.

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This movie and next movie, neither of them necessarily feel

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like they were made by these directors.

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No, there's like one scene I felt in this movie where it felt like John Woo

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was really making the call.

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And that's when Nicholas Cage is drunk and Ben is smoking the cigarette.

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And there's just like kind of slower, more artistic shots of him, like

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blowing the sick. He was doing like a cleansing ritual sort of thing.

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And he was like blowing the smoke over Cage's drunk body and like trying to,

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like drop ashes and stuff on him to kind of cleanse him or whatever.

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That's the only time I really felt like this felt like a

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John Woo movie.

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So this felt like more like a John Woo movie to me in that

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in all of the combat scenes, you always have a guy

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from standing position, go into a shoulder roll,

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standing up and shooting someone for no reason.

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It happens a lot.

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Yeah. I like shooting somebody or throwing a knife.

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Yeah. There's a lot of like that.

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I'm like I was introduced to.

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Yeah, I was introduced to John Woo with like the killers, like his

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his old school stuff.

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So I see a lot of that cinematography and a lot of that kind of violence

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in this film, which he's good at what he does.

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I do have a quote here from John Woo.

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This was his second to last film in America that he made in America.

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He did Mission Impossible 2 right before this.

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This is why he left.

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All Hollywood offers me is crap or big action pictures.

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I want to do something good.

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Yeah, that's pretty good.

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That is a pretty good quote. Yeah.

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Give me a war movie where you do something artistic that's unique.

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You know, show me a different angle so I can get into the trenches, so to speak.

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You know, where it's like it feels different.

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Like I don't need to see limbs being blown off left and right.

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And like the gruesomeness of war all the time.

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My problem with war movies is just that they're all presented

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as like a hero piece, but there just doesn't seem to be anything

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that feels heroic about a war movie to me.

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No, like it doesn't matter.

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Like you could go through heroic actions.

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You could do very noble things.

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But just the the fact of watching a movie about a war,

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it doesn't appeal to me unless that war happens in stars.

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Yeah, that's a very different.

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That's an important point, though, like that.

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That is a vibe that takes some of the like grit out of it.

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Yeah. And like Star Wars can be gritty, but at the same time,

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and or was great, it's abstracted, right?

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Well, I guess that's what it needs to be.

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It just needs to be fictional.

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Yeah, I'm not interested in a historic war piece

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because ultimately you can look.

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I mean, we're at a time now where we can look back at a lot of these wars

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and there's not black and white intentions for everybody.

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And I'm speaking for America.

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There isn't black and white intentions in a lot of things.

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And it's not good people.

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Right. The time.

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And it just kind of puts everybody on a pedestal in a war movie

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because they're all heroes.

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History is written by the victors.

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Right. Yeah, it's a really interesting concept.

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I mean, all these people in this movie getting shot and killed

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that are just fodder, right?

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Like there's so much shelling, there's so much machine gun work.

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And it's just like bodies flying everywhere.

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Now, this is also a conversation from three weenie little art kids.

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Yes. Who have never been involved with the military.

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When I was in high school, I took the ASVAB and they're like,

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yeah, you should probably go in the military.

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And I took that as like, oh, I probably don't have very many options in this life.

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But I thought about it, honestly, for a moment.

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And then 9-11 happened and I was like, y'all are fucked.

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Sorry, I'm not.

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I'm not going to join in war time.

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My dad was in the military for a good chunk of his life, left home

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at 17 to join the military and they fucked him over.

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They just they, you know, he had two years left in his service.

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And they're like, well, we can't afford your pension.

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So we're going to bust you down to private or you can take this money and go.

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And he gave him the finger bottom motorcycle and moved to San Francisco.

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And then you came about.

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Then I came about not fucking.

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Yeah.

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So he made some choices.

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Boy, I'm trying to think like we are kind of anti-government

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and we are pretty anti-cop and definitely anti-cop anti-establishment.

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And have we I guess we're pretty anti-military now, too.

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I think so. I mean, I like no, we're not anti-military.

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I like a good rogue agent like a Gary.

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But outside of that,

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even more garry's, if you can, if you can handle it, don't worry.

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We've still got one more Gary.

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Maybe maybe a second run at Gary.

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Maybe Gary's the one who's going to go all the way.

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You called it early.

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Yeah. I think you called your shot.

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Man, let me tell you about this guy, Gary.

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We're also three guys pushing 40.

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Talk to us in 15 years, which seems to be when all of our parents get into it.

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You turn 30 and you have two options.

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You can get really into historical war movies or smoking meats.

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And I'm an established meat smoker.

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Yeah, I was much more on the meat smoking.

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I mean, I like from Missouri.

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And you don't have a choice. That's true.

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I'm from San Francisco.

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This means something completely different for me.

428
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Yeah. You're going to have to get really into Birkenstock.

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So I don't think you can have either of these options.

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You are just comfortable.

431
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I hope you like telling us all about your veganism later.

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Talk that 15 years.

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All right. One thing because we're just going to jump around a little bit.

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One thing that I want to talk about.

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So Peter Stormare is the like gunnery sergeant.

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And he's a dick.

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Well, he's a dick.

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But like, was he trying to have an American accent?

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Like, I can tell.

440
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No, because they call him the Viking.

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He's very clearly like of Swedish.

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Yeah. I mean, his name is like Helmsted or something like that.

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But like whatever accent he ended up doing was no accent.

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And it sounds fucking weird.

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I think they were just trying to if they were trying to do anything,

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tone down his Swedish accent for like a Swedish American immigrant feel.

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Maybe it ended up sounding so off to me like I couldn't deal with it.

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I liked his character.

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I mean, he was a piece of shit.

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But like, yeah, I can understand a piece of shit character.

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They're Marines in the shit.

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Yeah. I want to just also just if we're going to just talk about characters,

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the female character, I will say character in that.

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What was the point of her?

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They yeah.

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Like she keeps writing them letters that he doesn't read,

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but they still do voiceovers of her writing them.

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I mean, to your point, like there is not much of a reason for that character.

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It's just like, oh, there's a nurse who feels strongly for him

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based on the couple of weeks that he was there with,

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you know, the bends or whatever.

462
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Yeah. The bends.

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This this film supposed to it's a movie centered around the idea of Navajo

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co-talkers, yet your main character is Nicolas Cage.

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Ben is integral, but Ben is not the focus of this movie.

466
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No, but you can have a movie about a subject

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from the perspective of an outsider.

468
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You can, but I don't think that's what this was at the end of the day.

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That is exactly what this was.

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I mean, yeah, I guess I just don't think it was done well.

471
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Yeah. In that regard, I think John talked about that, too,

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where he talked about how he really wanted this to be more about the friendship

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aspect and like the camaraderie that comes from being in a fucking horrid situation.

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And Studio, as you pointed out, really wanted it to be a different thing.

475
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Yeah, it needs a rewrite.

476
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Yeah, for sure. Because whatever they did with

477
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Cage's character, Ender, it really kind of hollowed him out.

478
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And he does have a bit of an arc, but it's very shallow.

479
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Yeah. Fun fact.

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Nicolas Cage learned to speak Navajo fluently for this role,

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claiming it would help him understand the script better.

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Jean-Louis said that Cage didn't understand which character he was supposed to be playing.

483
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I mean, Cage also spoke some Japanese in this.

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And it got me thinking, why does a kid from Jersey

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who had all the troubled past that he did, like they talk about him

486
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,640
assaulting a priest in Cage's defense with this vice principal of his Catholic

487
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,120
school and things like that.

488
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,520
And so he's got like this whole like story of like, oh, he's just no good.

489
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,240
He's only good at being a Marine.

490
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,200
And then like he knows all this Japanese and stuff.

491
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,560
And it's like he actually has a conversation at one point

492
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,520
with a lady and her child in this town.

493
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,840
And it's like, did you just pick this up in like the two years

494
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,600
that you've been actively probably in the army or the Marines?

495
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Like, it's a weird character point.

496
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,400
Yeah, it kind of makes me think I think it was family guy, like early seasons

497
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,840
of family guy at some point somebody speaks in Spanish.

498
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Just, I don't know, Brian or something like that.

499
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440
And he says something back and then they continue talking.

500
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Oh, I know the line you're talking about.

501
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,960
But it's just like, well, they learned these things and this follow up sentence.

502
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,640
And then it's like, OK.

503
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,080
Yeah, that's the Brian and Stewie big road trip.

504
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,280
Yep. That's right. Yeah.

505
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,160
Yeah. Pepperidge Farmer remembers.

506
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,000
Yep.

507
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,600
What are we doing here again?

508
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Oh, let's talk about Nick Cage's performance, I guess.

509
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,400
Yeah, it's as a Nick Cage podcast.

510
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,320
It's good. Yeah, it's fine.

511
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,480
I don't think it goes out of its way to do anything.

512
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,680
There's a couple scenes, but not much.

513
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000
It's pretty wooden. Yeah, that was my feeling.

514
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,320
Yeah, it's like I didn't love the movie.

515
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,960
I didn't love his performance, but I think a lot of that is script.

516
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,400
He plays a closed off man well, so I guess he's doing that.

517
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,400
But, you know, it was hard for me to connect with him as like a human

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,000
to give a shit about.

519
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600
So there's a few scenes where they have to call in airstrikes.

520
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Oh, the clip from the boats.

521
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,040
OK, the clip from the boats.

522
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,200
That's terrible because it's just like we're going to use some old footage

523
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,840
of like gunboats or like.

524
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,800
But pretty expensive.

525
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,800
Yes. An aircraft carrier.

526
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,520
So beyond that, I was going to talk about the planes, the flybys.

527
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Oh, yeah, because they have these planes that are CG and it's early 2000 CG.

528
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,720
But they use the same animation for every time a bomb is dropped.

529
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,200
So the plane always comes in from the same angle

530
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080
and is only ever lit properly for the first time it's used.

531
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,400
So every other time it's used, it's lit in the wrong direction.

532
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520
That's something I never.

533
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Again, again, visual artist here.

534
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760
So I pick up on the most noodley things.

535
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,880
But like this had a decent budget.

536
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,720
I know. Fifteen million dollars for this.

537
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,880
It's like they could have gotten.

538
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
I mean, you're not going to rent a fucking gunship and have it shoot.

539
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Now, artillery.

540
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,520
But you could CGI that better than their like 1920s footage that they.

541
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Yeah, yeah.

542
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,920
I will say that the artillery was all very accurate.

543
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,400
Actually, everybody was very accurate in this movie.

544
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,680
They got a lot of like.

545
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,120
You could be shooting your gun from your hip

546
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,920
and you would take out seven Japanese warriors.

547
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,920
Yeah, you could be jumping and somersaulting through the air

548
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,360
and you'd be taking people out artillery.

549
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,000
The mortar rounds were always hitting.

550
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Yeah, like there was never a miss.

551
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,040
It was never questionable.

552
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,960
It's just like, boom, straight into this tank and this and that.

553
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,280
And it's like, you guys are really good at trigonometry.

554
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,560
John Woo's.

555
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,000
Well, just John was like early films again, like The Killers.

556
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,800
The whole final scene is a 20 minute gunfight between two guys

557
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160
and usually the mafia.

558
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,360
And you by the time they've mowed down like the 10 named characters in the movie,

559
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320
you just have guys and like painters overalls showing up

560
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,280
for like 50 more guys to get mowed down for the big action set piece.

561
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,640
And that's how that last kind of stand feels.

562
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
You have four guys and they're like, we're almost out of ammo.

563
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,880
And then you have a 20 minute gunfight where they don't run out of ammo.

564
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200
What do you what do you got for like quotes on this movie?

565
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,920
What do you bring in here?

566
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,960
What do you bring to the party?

567
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880
So word wise him, this is right after

568
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,320
Joe and Ben kind of start to open up to each other, be friends.

569
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,360
They're drinking.

570
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,240
And Joe has just been given

571
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,840
a medal for saving the day, even though it's really it was Ben's idea.

572
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,800
And, you know, Ben was the one who had to dress up like a Japanese soldier

573
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,440
to get it done, but doesn't get recognition.

574
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,040
And so Joe is talking about the first time he got a medal.

575
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,880
First one they gave me through in the ocean.

576
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,320
Ben, what you get that one for?

577
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,720
We're not dying.

578
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,160
15 men who fought with me got decorated to.

579
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,880
We're dying.

580
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,040
Really good line. It is a good line.

581
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,560
That's actually kind of the only one that stood out.

582
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,920
So I'm curious what Nick's got.

583
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Good fucking marine.

584
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,720
Yeah, this movie is not thick with comedic lines.

585
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
You'll get a chuckle here and there throughout the movie.

586
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,800
But and it's not like

587
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080
it never earned the character development for a lot of like

588
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200
very well, like emotionally connecting lines.

589
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280
But what I got is this same scene

590
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,960
where Ben and Enders are Joe are talking

591
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,040
and Joe's drunk and he's just just talking about how

592
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360
he did what he was ordered to do.

593
00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,600
And you can tell, like he has his own kind of internal struggle with it.

594
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,840
And Ben's just trying to like

595
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,280
calm him down and like get him to just be like, hey, man,

596
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720
it's not your fault whatever happened.

597
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,560
And Cage just comes back with, yeah,

598
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,520
I'm a good fucking marine.

599
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960
That's why they gave me this detail.

600
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600
And he just kind of like looks at that.

601
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,360
And Ben doesn't know that, you know, push comes to shove.

602
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,080
He's going to shoot him.

603
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,200
But it's where you kind of see Cage having more internal conflict

604
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680
with it as they've started to develop a friendship. Yeah.

605
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,320
So you can kind of see like a little bit of character growth in that moment.

606
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,720
And we get a good we get a good just classic cage,

607
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,640
just screaming scene in this film, but not a lot of gold

608
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000
in terms of great line reads.

609
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000
No, it's a very movie specific performance for them.

610
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,280
So we're not getting a Nicholas Cage performance.

611
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,080
We're getting a wind talkers performance for this movie.

612
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640
Which I mean, the man has range.

613
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Yes, he does. And, you know, we know he's a good actor.

614
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080
He did this. Yeah, he did do this.

615
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Yep. He also did this.

616
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,360
The other movie.

617
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Bringing out the dead in 1999, Martin Scorsese, starring Nicholas Cage

618
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,000
as Frank Pierce and Patricia Arquette as Mary Burke and another

619
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Paul Schrader as writer and Paul Schrader's writer.

620
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,520
But before we get into that, I was going to say and a cavalcade

621
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,320
of other amazing actors, both these movies cast astoundingly.

622
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Really good. Yeah.

623
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,600
We got John Goodman.

624
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160
We have Ving Rhames with a full head of hair, which I did not recognize him.

625
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,080
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

626
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Until I paused the movie.

627
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,400
I was watching on Amazon.

628
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,880
I paused it and it gives you credits.

629
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,120
And I'm like.

630
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,600
Never seen Ving Rhames with hair.

631
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960
Yeah, he looks weird with hair. Yeah.

632
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,920
And then you've got a Tom Sizemore, Tom Sizemore,

633
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,360
and Cliff Curtis is a drug dealer guy named Cy Coats.

634
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320
And then a weird one that I definitely didn't recognize him

635
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960
because he's made up pretty well is Mark Anthony, the like

636
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,560
singer songwriter is like a drug addict guy who got

637
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760
I think he got shot or something at some point and he lost his mind.

638
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Yeah. Yeah.

639
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,520
Drug dealer conflict.

640
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,560
I thought he did a good job.

641
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,600
He did a great job.

642
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Also, just fun little like blink and you miss it performance from

643
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,840
I don't have her name written down.

644
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
The actress who played Carla on Scrubs. Yeah.

645
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,800
In the final scene.

646
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,240
But yeah, Judy, Judy Ray.

647
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Judy Ray is. Yeah.

648
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,240
We did also have a single scene from somebody I fucking loved.

649
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280
And that was Michael Kenneth Williams.

650
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,840
He just played a drug dealer who got shot and dies.

651
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

652
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960
But I mean, you'll know him.

653
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,480
He played Omar.

654
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Well, OK. Oh, that was in The Wire.

655
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,960
So he played Omar in The Wire.

656
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,320
He's been in like all the HBO shows. Yeah.

657
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640
He's fucking he was fucking great.

658
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000
I think the only other character of note that I kind of saw

659
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,160
was that Mary Beth Hurt was playing the like intake nurse at the hospital.

660
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Yeah. Who is like a real piece of shit, but maybe has a heart of gold.

661
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,160
I don't know. But anyway, she is.

662
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Well, she definitely has a soft spot for Mr.

663
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Oh, for sure.

664
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680
And she is Paul Schrader's Paul Schrader's wife.

665
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Oh, is she? Yeah. Unfortunate.

666
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,160
She must have a soft spot for bad people.

667
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaking of speaking of a I couldn't think of a way to not say it meanly.

668
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaking of I'm putting out there just dumb, dumb.

669
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,120
She's got a soft spot for dumb, dumb.

670
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaking of spouse, speaking of spouses, Nicholas Cage and Patricia

671
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440
Arquette are married at this point in their lives.

672
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Yes. They would get divorced two years later.

673
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:49,480
So, yeah, this film, Nicholas Cage plays a EMT end of his rope.

674
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,320
He hasn't saved a life in a year.

675
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,760
He's haunted by the people he's lost, specifically one young girl named Rose,

676
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,320
who he sees everywhere.

677
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
And the movie takes place over the course of three nights

678
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,040
where his first call is saving

679
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,280
a man who's had a heart attack and is Mary's father.

680
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,160
And that's how they meet.

681
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,400
And we follow him over the course of three nights and his ups

682
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200
and downs with Mary's father kind of being the through line to

683
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,840
his mental state and where he's at with the world.

684
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Yeah, it's kind of a vignetted film.

685
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,720
Most the three nights he has a different ride along, a different partner every night.

686
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,960
And they each kind of take him down different avenues of the job.

687
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,880
The major like through line and the piece that ties everything together, though,

688
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,280
is Mary, because it's his involvement

689
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,760
with her father's case and her that opens up, you know,

690
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,320
the worlds of the drug dealing.

691
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,920
It kind of ties in this character, Noel, who has had a head injury

692
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,560
and is very not right anymore.

693
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,320
It's the story.

694
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,280
Yeah, it's Nicolas Cage and Mary throughout her problems with drugs,

695
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,640
his problems with the trauma of his job and just how the two of them

696
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,720
ride through this wave, not necessarily together, but parallel.

697
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,360
Yeah, parallel to each other.

698
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,720
I mean, Nicolas Cage puts in what I thought was a great performance.

699
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:28,360
Like he's you see him losing his grip on reality more and more as the film goes on.

700
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,840
This movie is done in kind of a vignetted style where it's three nights,

701
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,360
three different partners ride alongs.

702
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,080
And let's start off with John Goodman, who is great.

703
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,400
I mean, John Goodman's great. He's always great.

704
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Yeah, this happens to be his normal partner at this moment.

705
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Yeah. So they ride along together.

706
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,960
They do a couple like smaller things, nothing huge.

707
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Yeah, it's a Mr. O is one of the main ones.

708
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,240
Yeah, they introduce us to Mr.

709
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,400
O, who is just outrageous like drunk.

710
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,600
I mean, drunk homeless guy. Yeah, drunk homeless guy.

711
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880
He smells really bad and they call him Mr.

712
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:15,840
O because all he ever seems to say is, oh, which Nick Cage is thrilled about

713
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,280
because it means nobody's going to die. Yeah.

714
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Just gets to pick someone up and drop him off.

715
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,600
Yeah, you just have to deal with the hospital and nobody likes picking up Mr.

716
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,760
O. So every time Mr.

717
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,640
O comes up, there's just a big debate and Nick Cage always wants to take that job.

718
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960
But so they start with Burke.

719
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Yeah, Mary's father, who had had a heart attack, locked himself in the bathroom

720
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,320
and they got there 10 minutes after he'd stopped breathing.

721
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,760
Right. So for the remainder of the movie, he's a good guy.

722
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Kind of in a vegetative state.

723
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:54,880
It's Nick Cage checking in at the hospital where he dropped him off, both with Mr.

724
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Burke's doing, but really in relation to like how it's affecting his daughter, Mary.

725
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Yeah. And kind of creating a relationship with her throughout.

726
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,480
So that's our like major timeline. Yeah.

727
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,720
So we go Burke. We got some Mr.

728
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,760
O. We get the conversation on the pier.

729
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,000
They go to stop so John Goodman can have a bit of a nap. Yeah.

730
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,720
Because John Goodman is completely checked out at this point from the job.

731
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:22,000
He's he tells about his plan, about how he's going to start up his own

732
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880
ambulance company, like out on the island.

733
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,160
It will be the boss. The captain.

734
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,080
He'll be. Yeah. I'm the captain now.

735
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,160
And in like a year's time, that's kind of his plan.

736
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,160
And he's just like, it's just a job.

737
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Yeah. Oh, he doesn't think about it when he's in the van at all or the ambulance at all.

738
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,440
There's a stop for like food or coffee. That's all he's thinking about.

739
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,040
In the beginning, where they're driving around, he's like, oh, man,

740
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,360
we got to go get some beef lo mein beef lo mein.

741
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,640
I mean, close in five minutes.

742
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Chuck, we got to the expletive is to the left here.

743
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,760
And it's like, oh, you missed it. Yes.

744
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Take the next turn. Oh, it's a party.

745
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
A lot. All he thinks about it is this.

746
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,560
And then like at the very last second, like as they're turning to the Chinese plays,

747
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,360
he just like slaps the dash. He's like, oh, fuck.

748
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,400
And Cage is just terrified. He's like, I had beef lo mein last night.

749
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040
I can't have it two nights in a row. We got to go somewhere else.

750
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,400
What do you want? It's like, Jesus Christ, it's two a.m.

751
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,600
I mean, that's literally all he thinks about is like where he's going to take break.

752
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,920
That relationship is all about like one person distancing themselves emotionally from

753
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,520
the realities of their job. And then it goes into the next night.

754
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,800
Before we get into Marcus, I do want to talk about Frank's relationship with the dispatch

755
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,280
with his boss. He comes in late every night.

756
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,960
Oh, God. Yeah, the captain. Yeah.

757
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,680
The captain's like, you know, it's your ninth time being late.

758
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,320
You've called out sick four times. You can't call it sick anymore.

759
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Like, you know, the higher ups want me to fire you.

760
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,400
He's like, good. All right. Cohen was like, not going to fire you.

761
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,600
It's like I told them if they want you fired, you got, you know, they got to come down here.

762
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,560
It's like, you know, they won't do it. You got to do it because Nick Cage just wants out.

763
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Why did he bark at him to show he's the big dog?

764
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,320
Yeah. Yeah. Big dog energy.

765
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,840
Yeah. He just barks at him.

766
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,000
God, if I had a nickel for every time some big dog barked around me just to show him.

767
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,960
And I love the scene because he's like, I'll fire you tomorrow.

768
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Yeah. You tomorrow.

769
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,720
And then as Nick Cage defeatedly is about to go out, just turns around and goes,

770
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,880
you know, I could bark to it's like, sure you can.

771
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,880
I was going to say I used to have this job that I fucking hated.

772
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:39,360
And, you know, like 80 percent of the time it was OK, but there were things that they just asked me

773
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,280
to do or out that were outside of what I had originally agreed to do.

774
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,520
But stuff always.

775
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Now, that's what you agreed to do.

776
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Yeah. Always. But stuff. And then they want me to do outside the but stuff.

777
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,880
Yeah. Which, you know, it's always in.

778
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Yeah. Got to be in the but.

779
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,000
I'm a clean guy. I don't like messes.

780
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,600
I got to start over. We laughed.

781
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Yeah. Welcome back to Cajun Match.

782
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,360
Going right about way to Nicholas Cage.

783
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,400
Oh, is that what it is?

784
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Every time somebody laughs, we have to start the episode over.

785
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Only on the serious episodes.

786
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,800
OK. OK. That's a fun challenge for season two.

787
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,360
But yeah, they made me do Christmas lights.

788
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,080
And it sounds stupid to be like, oh, they made me put up Christmas lighting for rich people.

789
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,000
And it's like, no, fuck that.

790
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,640
I don't like the holiday and I don't want to do it.

791
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
I was always trying to get fired.

792
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,280
And there was one day like I get called in boss's office.

793
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,400
He's fucking tearing me a new one about something that isn't relating to me.

794
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,480
It's like I was just supposed to supervise somebody and he put me on a different job.

795
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,160
And then they fucked up elsewhere.

796
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,160
He's like, giving me the right act.

797
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,920
I just fucking toss my keys down.

798
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,760
I'm like, fine. Fucking fire me.

799
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,800
Fire me right now.

800
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Get me out of here.

801
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Like, you fucking hate having me here.

802
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Just fire me. He looks me in the eyes and he's just like, Nick, it's a bigger punishment to keep you.

803
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,440
So night two, Marcus night.

804
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,880
Yeah. Yeah.

805
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,360
So Marcus played by Ving Rhames, who with hair with hair is a hot air character.

806
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,760
And he's so fucking good.

807
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,880
He's like more in the realm of, you know, they're doing God's work there.

808
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,920
They're saving people.

809
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:26,240
He's fully leaning into the religious redemption and it's Jesus saving people.

810
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,040
It's like, yeah.

811
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,920
So Marcus is angle and this is like, it's all in Jesus's hands.

812
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,880
You know, when things go well, they did a great job.

813
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,000
When things don't go well, well, that's just God's will.

814
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,600
And he even talks about how, you know, he pulled a jumper off a roof and they cage like,

815
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,240
yeah, that happened.

816
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,640
You know, and Ireland wants this woman was going to jump in like the wind push her back.

817
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,040
It's like the classic story of the cliffs of Nick.

818
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,360
Yeah.

819
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,960
And Nick cage is, you know, and he's like, well, the wind helped.

820
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,080
And Ving Rhames gives one of my favorite readings of his is I'll preach heaven and beat the hell out of you, son.

821
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:10,320
I think my favorite thing was that as like any good Christian, he seems horny as fucking shit.

822
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,720
Yeah.

823
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:11,360
Oh, man.

824
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,080
I didn't write it down because I knew we were going to talk about it regardless.

825
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,040
There are a lot of prostitutes in this movie because it's.

826
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Yeah.

827
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,440
It's New York, Manhattan in the 90s.

828
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:32,640
And by God, it's like every other shot is a hooker and it's a no, no, no, because it's the 90s.

829
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
So it's OK to call him hooker still.

830
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,920
And also there is a very professional difference between the two.

831
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:49,280
So the scene with Ving Rhames and Nick Cage, just like driving through like Times Square or something.

832
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,840
And being Rames just has like a huge fan of cash that he's just like waving in front of his face.

833
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,840
He's like, let's go look at the hookers.

834
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Yes.

835
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:04,720
Oh, well, he's so horny for Queen Latifah as the dispatcher for that night.

836
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:05,520
Oh, yeah.

837
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,480
Yeah, love.

838
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Apparently, they went on a blind date once and she like smashed a bottle over his head.

839
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,040
Yeah, she seems bad.

840
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,240
Why are you going to bring that up?

841
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:14,880
Yeah.

842
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,360
I mean, being Rames steals this movie and they really put him right in the middle of it.

843
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,240
So they do wind up saving someone that well saving one someone that night.

844
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,320
They have two good moves that night.

845
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,760
Their big action is they go to this nightclub.

846
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,680
I love the music in this movie.

847
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,240
It's great.

848
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,880
And great soundtrack. Super deep.

849
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,080
And I don't know, maybe this recording was for this soundtrack, but there's a super deep

850
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,720
Jane's Addiction cut when they're in this club that I've only ever heard on a really weird

851
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,480
B side album.

852
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,720
So maybe it was recorded for this movie.

853
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:51,280
I don't know.

854
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,480
But just like, oh, Scorsese always has great music in his films.

855
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,280
He does.

856
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,840
Again, peak 90s movie, just industrial club with a bunch of people in black leather.

857
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,400
Oh, yeah.

858
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,920
It's definitely like they go to the goth.

859
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,320
Club that plays Jane's Addiction.

860
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,800
Yep.

861
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,320
Because goths.

862
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:06,720
Yeah.

863
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:07,840
Love Jane's Addiction.

864
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,800
Yeah, that's their thing.

865
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,480
But we have this scene of them like going off that look.

866
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,320
They have this scene.

867
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,120
They have this scene going on.

868
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,960
How many more times can we hear you to start this?

869
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Welcome back to Cage Magical and around about wave meeting, Nicholas Cage.

870
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,160
I'm your host, Sean.

871
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,120
He was my co-host.

872
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,840
They have this scene like going to this nightclub.

873
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:36,640
There was a cardiac arrest and they show up, bring all their shit up top,

874
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,640
and they're kind of looking around.

875
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
They scope the scene and they're like, yeah, there's drugs.

876
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,240
There's this drug that they've talked about that's hot on the scene.

877
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,040
Red Death.

878
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,840
Yeah.

879
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,800
Which is like your typical heroin, whatever.

880
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,400
I mean, Ving Rhames' original response to the body.

881
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,600
Oh, shit, he did.

882
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,100
Yeah.

883
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,960
Nick Cage checks and he's like, oh, I'm going to go to the bathroom.

884
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,800
He checks and he's like, oh, he's got like a pulse.

885
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,200
So they're the narco.

886
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,700
Yeah.

887
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,600
So they get the Narcan out.

888
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,100
Narcan.

889
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Do you just want to do it?

890
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:08,880
Yeah.

891
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,920
Ving Rhames goes into a dialogue with the rest of the people that are there,

892
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,040
which happens to be the remainder of the band.

893
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,600
The person on the ground is like the singer or something.

894
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,520
The drummer is there and there's some groupies and there's just a dialogue.

895
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,760
I rebuke the spirit of drugs in the name of Jesus.

896
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,560
What's his name?

897
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,920
Ivy Banging.

898
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,600
What do you mean Ivy Banging?

899
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,400
Ivy Banging.

900
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,040
The hell kind of name is Ivy Banging.

901
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,160
I don't know his real name.

902
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,760
It's Frederick Smith.

903
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,320
Okay, Freddy.

904
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,040
It's Frederick.

905
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,280
Okay, Ivy Banging, we're going to bring you back from the dead.

906
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,080
Dear Lord, here I am again, asking one more chance for a sinner.

907
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,720
Please Lord, bring back Ivy Banging, Lord.

908
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:00,800
You have the power, Jesus.

909
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880
You have the might.

910
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,760
You have the super light to spare this worthless man.

911
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,840
And Ivy Banging sits up.

912
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,120
Rise up, Ivy Banging, and start your life anew.

913
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Lord, oh thank you, Lord.

914
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,880
What happened?

915
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,400
So there's only two things that I do well in this life and that's the...

916
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,520
A Ving Rhames impression.

917
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Ving Rhames impression and Gary Faulkner impression.

918
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,440
Yeah, you're pretty good at both.

919
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,120
So thank you very much.

920
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,800
But that fucking scene is so fucking funny because while they're sitting there like,

921
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,760
and Marcus is doing all of this, Nick Cage is like slyly putting the Narcan into Ivy Banging.

922
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,520
Into Ivy Banging, so like Marcus has everybody holding hands and like holding this like little

923
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:58,320
Jesus vigil over the goth boy just so that they can like posture this whole scene.

924
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,720
Marcus is very theatrical and fun.

925
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:08,400
Everybody's got their thing, their shtick, and Marcus is just very over the top.

926
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,200
And so...

927
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,640
I mean, one of the outcomes of that is like he also is kind of a drunk and he has a bunch of booze

928
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,400
in his work bag and then they fucking crash the ambulance.

929
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Yes.

930
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,840
So that comes in after their next call.

931
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,920
So this is in a kind of burnt out old building.

932
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,040
They find a young teenager's...

933
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,600
I mean, a crack den's a crack den.

934
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,480
Yeah, it's a crack den.

935
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,760
And again, a great Marcus line, oh shit, a fat crack head.

936
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Because there's a pregnant woman who...

937
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:43,840
I forgot about that line.

938
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:50,320
They're saying is having like in cardiac arrest, no, she's in labor and her boyfriend is just like,

939
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,160
impossible, we're virgins.

940
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,320
While she's actively giving birth to twins.

941
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,120
Yeah, and I'm looking at him and I'm like, yes, you are.

942
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,320
And then he even says like, it's a miracle.

943
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,960
But yeah, they...

944
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,840
My favorite part about like giving birth is like Nicholas Cage is down there.

945
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,040
He's like, oh, there's three legs.

946
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,520
And then Fingrave's like, that's too many legs.

947
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,680
Well, I was going to say they look down.

948
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,480
It's a breech birth because there are three legs ticking out.

949
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:14,960
Yeah.

950
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,440
Yeah.

951
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,520
So they have to save the baby.

952
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,320
Fingrave's got a healthy baby boy, Nick Cage.

953
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Gets the one that dies.

954
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Gets the one that dies.

955
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Yeah.

956
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,080
So he doesn't save someone.

957
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,160
He's giving it CPR all the way back to the hospital and it just doesn't make it.

958
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Yeah.

959
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:37,520
So Fingrave is on cloud nine because he saved a baby boy or got to deliver a baby boy.

960
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,000
And Nick Cage is only focusing on the one that died, not the one that lived.

961
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:48,640
And they get in that ambulance and they're driving and Nick Cage just, you know, he's like,

962
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,440
oh, fuck it.

963
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,320
You know, we're done.

964
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,760
We need like, it's time for a drink.

965
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,040
We've had our win for the day.

966
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,280
And so he's got an orange juice in the medical bag.

967
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:57,780
Yeah.

968
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,040
Marius just has his bag and he's got like a container that would hold like saline solution

969
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,680
or something.

970
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,560
Yeah.

971
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,520
It's definitely a medical container and Cage pulls it out.

972
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:15,120
He's like, I fucking hate gin and starts pouring out gin and juices.

973
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,000
And then Marcus, this is where they get another call.

974
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,720
And Cage is like, don't take it.

975
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:23,280
Don't take it.

976
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,760
We're done.

977
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,880
Just tell him we're drunk.

978
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,760
Tell him like, like the bus is broken down.

979
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,040
And just tell him anything.

980
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Because it's love.

981
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Yeah.

982
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,360
And Marcus is just on such a high.

983
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,360
He's like, just fucking give me another one.

984
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,360
I'll fucking save somebody.

985
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:43,440
And he takes the call and like speeds off and immediately a cab pulls out in front of them

986
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,040
and he swerves and manages to just flip and roll the ambulance with them in it.

987
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,560
They both get out laughing.

988
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Yeah.

989
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,760
Praise Jesus.

990
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:52,800
Yeah.

991
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,720
Marcus is like, oh, we made it.

992
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,480
And Cage is like, fuck this.

993
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,040
I quit.

994
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,280
And just like walks away into the night.

995
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,160
But that is kind of the motivation for him to go seek out Mary again.

996
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,560
Nick Cage follows her to her dealer.

997
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,400
And yeah, she's they mentioned that she mentioned she used to be a junkie,

998
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,760
but this is where she's she could be married.

999
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,680
The nun or marry the junkie.

1000
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,800
And it didn't matter to her.

1001
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,280
Yeah.

1002
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,760
She just wants Cage to like hang out outside.

1003
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,720
So she's not like using and staying there.

1004
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:21,920
She just wants to like leave.

1005
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,320
But ends up she's there.

1006
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,800
He goes upstairs to like find her after whatever they're pre record pre.

1007
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,640
We it's very charming drug dealer.

1008
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,280
Yes.

1009
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:31,920
I is great.

1010
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,760
I really like the way he approaches drug dealing.

1011
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
I think it seems like a good dude.

1012
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,400
Like, yeah, you don't ever repeat customers if you kill them.

1013
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:40,640
Yeah.

1014
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,360
Good, good fucking business practice.

1015
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,800
And he's got an aquarium.

1016
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,680
That's pretty cool.

1017
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,800
Some saltwater fish.

1018
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,640
That's very chill vibes.

1019
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,600
Takes a lot of work.

1020
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:49,840
Yeah.

1021
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440
But you know, Nick Cage gets side gives him something to help him sleep.

1022
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,000
He he has a bad reaction to the drugs like King Kong's his way out of there,

1023
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,400
like grabs Mary over the shoulder and like gets her out of there.

1024
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,440
Yeah.

1025
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,160
And I love size line as he's getting in the elevator.

1026
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,520
You owe me ten dollars.

1027
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,020
Yeah.

1028
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:15,120
So night three, we are teamed up with Tom Wolves, his former his former partner

1029
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,160
that he used to ride with.

1030
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,840
But he had Tom Sizemore.

1031
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,320
Yeah.

1032
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:24,720
Way of dealing with his job is to just be like, I get to decide who lives and dies

1033
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,960
to the point where he tries to do a murder.

1034
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,880
I don't think it's like he's actively trying to murder somebody,

1035
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,000
but he's trying to kill fucking he's trying to kill that guy.

1036
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,840
He hates no, he hates no.

1037
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:44,160
He's a very heated his way of just like living with the stress and trauma.

1038
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,800
The only way he can like cope cope or whatever is having this like big moment

1039
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,640
because even when they're driving like this big violent moment when they're driving,

1040
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,960
Cage is like, I just got to like break some windows or something.

1041
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
And Tom's like, well, we can't like what?

1042
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,400
Why are we doing it?

1043
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,280
What's the point?

1044
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,240
We need something.

1045
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,360
There's got to be a reason.

1046
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,680
And then they roll up on a taxi who's like who stopped in a crosswalk.

1047
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:19,680
And he gets into a racist, pretty racist, but very heated road rage exchange.

1048
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,800
And it's like, that's all he needed.

1049
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,160
Like, it's never about the person that he's accosting or upset with.

1050
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,720
He just needs a reason to justify the way he feels.

1051
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,220
Yes.

1052
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,920
He's kind of like the manifestation of like everything that could go wrong,

1053
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:42,720
like all the stresses of this job, all the shit that you have to see the like depravity of humanity.

1054
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,240
Yeah, he's a cautionary tale.

1055
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:44,720
Right.

1056
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,280
And he's he's at the precipice.

1057
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:47,760
Yeah.

1058
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,120
And maybe you're right.

1059
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,760
Maybe he isn't going to do a murder necessarily, but like he's so close.

1060
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
No one would have died if Nick was dead.

1061
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,920
He most likely would have.

1062
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,080
Even if he didn't kill him, he would have left him for dead.

1063
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,320
Right.

1064
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,480
That's what I mean when I say murderer.

1065
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,640
He's a killer because he would have killed somebody.

1066
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,720
I feel it's complicated because he says like he was released.

1067
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,880
Nick Cage is like, but he's crazy.

1068
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,680
He's not a criminal.

1069
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,400
He's crazy.

1070
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,360
And he's like, why isn't anybody locking him up?

1071
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,760
Why isn't anybody doing anything about him?

1072
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,400
It's like this is just an aspect of society.

1073
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,760
We still have this problem.

1074
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:28,720
Yeah, people with mental health issues for any number of tragic reasons,

1075
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:37,600
just being pushed in and out of the system, be it hospitals, mental care facilities and whatnot.

1076
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:44,480
And there's never a resolution or there doesn't seem to be like a way to help these people on

1077
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:53,520
the streets. And all Tom sees is this weight on society of somebody that's being like

1078
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,640
dragged in and out.

1079
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:00,000
And it's when Tom sees him in this scene and he's breaking car windows with a baseball bat,

1080
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,640
just because.

1081
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Yeah. Well, and going to your thing about how, you know, there's no point to just like Nick Cage

1082
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,800
says he wants to smash something and he says there's no point to it.

1083
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,920
When Noel is smashing windows, it's Nick Cage's job to distract him.

1084
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,880
No tells him to like take a crack at it.

1085
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,760
So Nick Cage like smashes out like a car window and Tom's like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?

1086
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Yeah, I think that was more of like Tom just wanted him to like go up there and

1087
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,320
distract him and push him over.

1088
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,240
He thought it was like a simple plan.

1089
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:33,600
Nick Cage has more history with Nolan.

1090
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
He was never into the plan to begin with.

1091
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,840
Tom is a broken like, I mean, kind of like how John Goodman had checked out by just being like,

1092
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,800
I'm almost done.

1093
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,640
And everybody is broken.

1094
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:44,880
Yeah.

1095
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,440
In this movie, nobody is handling things well.

1096
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,240
But the way John Goodman's character was just like, I'm almost done.

1097
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:51,120
I can do this for another year.

1098
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Then I'm going to be the boss.

1099
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Tom's a lifer and Tom's just like, I'm going to do whatever I want.

1100
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,560
Right. And he's compressing his rage down constantly because he's dealing with shit that

1101
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,800
people shouldn't fucking have to look at in a day to day situation.

1102
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Then we get into how Nick Cage deals with things, how he deals with control of life and death by

1103
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,960
deciding that Mary's dad has had enough.

1104
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,800
Unlike Tom, who just was like, I'm going to get my aggression out with Noel.

1105
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,600
When you see how Nick Cage decides to take out Mary's dad, it is completely premeditated

1106
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,920
because he so what he does is he's moving to the ICU.

1107
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Nick Cage goes in there, says, you know, I'm the one

1108
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,280
who brought him in, goes in, close, close the curtains.

1109
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:44,160
He's already got heart sensor pads on his body, so he removes all the stuff.

1110
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,120
So the machine's tracking his heartbeat and just lets the man die and lets the man code

1111
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,320
before putting everything back in.

1112
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:59,760
So it's important to note that we've had a couple scenes leading up to this where Mr. Burke,

1113
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,240
you know, has an episode or whatever at the hospital.

1114
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:10,320
Pretty much every time Cage is there, there will be a scene where Mr.

1115
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Burke's either like Mr. Burke wakes up and like or his volume wears off and he like is

1116
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,960
trying to get the tube out of his throat or his heart fails again.

1117
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,600
They talk about how they have to shock him 13 times.

1118
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,720
I think it's insane.

1119
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Like he's just constantly the family wants to keep him alive because the wife believes in miracles.

1120
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:36,400
That's what the nurse tells Nick Cage, Nick Cage is having this like presumably in his head,

1121
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,440
telepathic conversation with Mr.

1122
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,160
Burke.

1123
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,120
It's not nearly as weird as that when he's with him.

1124
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,720
He is just hearing Mr.

1125
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Burke say, let him go.

1126
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Desire to die and Nick Cage is on no sleep and all caffeine and yet some drugs to some drugs.

1127
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,200
He is definitely not in his right mind throughout most of this movie.

1128
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,560
His belief is Burke just wants to die.

1129
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,720
I think one thing that we're kind of missing, part of the reason he seems to be in my mind

1130
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,560
on a little bit of a high is that he did end up saving the drug dealer.

1131
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,600
He saves the drug dealer and almost would have fallen off the roof in the process.

1132
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,040
So also that was beautiful with all the sparks out into the city sky.

1133
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,920
Yeah, it was really nice.

1134
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,600
Kind of has this near-death experience as well as finally saving someone.

1135
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,200
So yeah, he is running that high.

1136
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,080
So we have that scene.

1137
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,400
Then we have the Noel kick in.

1138
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,360
All right.

1139
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,880
So he's now saved two lives.

1140
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Yes, he saved two lives.

1141
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:35,680
Well, because he brings Noel in and he is still covered in Noel's blood when he comes in.

1142
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,040
And that's when he sees that Mr.

1143
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,240
Burke has been moved out of the emergency room.

1144
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,080
He's got a unit in ICU and that's when he goes and does what he was going to do.

1145
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,960
He does his mercy killing.

1146
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,360
Yeah.

1147
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Then goes to Marius to tell her her father guy that they resuscitate him one too many times.

1148
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,160
They hold each other as he nods off.

1149
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,040
That's pretty much it.

1150
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:58,720
I liked this one.

1151
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,600
I thought it was really good too.

1152
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,480
It was really good.

1153
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,560
I thought we had a good performance from Cage.

1154
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,200
And I thought we had a good performance from everyone.

1155
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,240
It was really just.

1156
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,360
Well, it's filmed really well.

1157
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,200
Like, I mean, you talked about being a little stoned and then kind of having uppers and

1158
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:11,600
everything.

1159
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,440
It's like the upper downer.

1160
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,760
The way it's filmed feels that way.

1161
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:21,360
Like, it's so blown out and it's so like light affects you in a major way.

1162
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,440
Oh, the lighting in this movie was incredible.

1163
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,200
The DP like fucking killed me.

1164
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,760
Really well.

1165
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:31,760
I wanted to just briefly touch on how during every ride, there's a very different intention

1166
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,840
with the shots when he gets when you get to Tom, like when Tom starts driving off, it's

1167
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,040
just really all like everything sped up quick shots, like just the the manic mania.

1168
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Yeah, there's a manic intensity to the calls that they take.

1169
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,000
Yeah.

1170
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,840
But I mean, that's when they're structured like in the scene,

1171
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,600
when they're in the scene, they're slower, they're calm, they're in control,

1172
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,400
they're professionals.

1173
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,720
Yeah.

1174
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:01,040
But like that getting to and fro that AB connection of everything, it's very intense.

1175
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,760
And it's it's kind of like a little drug trap.

1176
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:11,840
I kind of felt like this movie, I wrote this movie sort of like there's something out there.

1177
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,080
And I don't think it's a Guy Ritchie movie, but it feels like this could have been a Guy

1178
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:16,400
Ritchie.

1179
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,200
For sure.

1180
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,320
So I know, Peter, you have some thoughts on Schrader's writing for this because I wanted

1181
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,920
to say that, man, Schrader shouldn't direct.

1182
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,760
Well, OK, fully, fully agree.

1183
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Schrader should not direct.

1184
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,400
I think he's a bad director.

1185
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800
I think he's a better competent writer.

1186
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,920
This is an adaptation of a novel, though.

1187
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,040
That's what I was going to say.

1188
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,360
So I don't think that Schrader's original work is very good.

1189
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:47,920
I think that he did a good job for this movie, but there's a lot that was the groundwork.

1190
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Was there a foundation is there?

1191
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Everything I read about it was it's pretty close to the original story.

1192
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,480
Like there.

1193
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Yeah.

1194
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,320
He didn't take a lot of liberties in this one, which is good.

1195
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,640
But I was talking to Josie about this and I was like, man, if he had done something

1196
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,040
about like fringe people in New York on a decade by decade basis.

1197
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,720
So like he had taxi driver.

1198
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,200
Oh, yeah.

1199
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
If he had done something was taxi driver in the 80s.

1200
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,800
Yeah, I think so.

1201
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,120
So we got taxi driver.

1202
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,960
We got this.

1203
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,440
If he did some this in the 90s, if he had done something like in the 2000s

1204
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,960
and maybe done like a New York in the 70s movie.

1205
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:27,200
Right.

1206
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,680
Kind of covering these fringe people that I mean, that would have been a great arc.

1207
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,400
And it would have been a really fun story.

1208
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,880
But we got things like Dog Eat Dog and the other one, everything else instead.

1209
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,080
Fun fact about the film.

1210
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,760
This was one of the last two films to be released to the Laserdisc.

1211
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,760
You want to give me a guess what the other one was?

1212
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,040
Did it include Richard Gere?

1213
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,520
No, it's got Johnny Depp in it, though.

1214
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,880
I prefer Richard Gere.

1215
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,080
I do, too.

1216
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,280
Also Christopher Walken.

1217
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,320
Late 90s.

1218
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,320
Wait, Sleepy Hollow.

1219
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,840
Oh, shit.

1220
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,320
Yeah, those were the last two movies released to Laserdisc.

1221
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,680
What a fucking bummer.

1222
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,640
Yeah, I had a professor that's going out with a fart.

1223
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:15,040
I had a professor in Montana who would invite all of the lighting staff members to come

1224
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,840
over and we would have a big thank you thing every year.

1225
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,480
And like his wife would make all this food.

1226
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,680
He'd buy all this beer.

1227
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:31,360
And once everybody was drunk, we'd go back into his house and he would put on Pink Floyd's

1228
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Pulse Tour on Laserdisc and he would just air drum through the whole thing because he was

1229
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,600
just crouched.

1230
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,160
Nice.

1231
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,280
I fucking loved Mark.

1232
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,040
He was a great professor.

1233
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:47,840
Schrader, so Schrader went on a ride along before he wrote the script on that ride along.

1234
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:53,040
He saw a gentleman who had been severed in twain.

1235
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,480
I honestly probably got to be now.

1236
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,840
I'm going to go silver lining here.

1237
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:04,480
A pretty great situation for some people because all clothes shopping would be half off.

1238
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,840
Sean, have you got any quotes for this?

1239
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,560
I do.

1240
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,680
Oh, well, why don't you why don't you put one on my ear holes?

1241
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,800
Right on those ear holes.

1242
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Put it on my ear holes.

1243
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Vibrate those holes.

1244
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,840
They just got no Nick Cage is just talking to me.

1245
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,680
Nick Cage is just talk no holes.

1246
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,440
Nick Cage is just talking into the ambulance because no one wants to die and won't kill

1247
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,720
himself and Nick Cage convinced him to get in the ambulance by saying there's a special

1248
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,480
room at the hospital where they'll kill you.

1249
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,560
So he gets in.

1250
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,360
That's when they go and pick up a drug dealer who had gotten a shot.

1251
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,680
And he's dying in the back and Nick Cage is, you know, it's like you're not going to die.

1252
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,960
And no one's like, what?

1253
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,160
It's like you're going to die.

1254
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,040
He's not.

1255
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:50,720
And he's having no like hold the guy's arms up and he's like, hold this.

1256
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,800
If you let go, I swear I won't kill you.

1257
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,880
I fucking love that.

1258
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,000
That was a good line.

1259
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,000
Do you have a Nick Cage quote for this?

1260
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,800
I do.

1261
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:05,600
And it's from when he was riding around with Tom and he's in the back of the bus,

1262
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,040
the back of the ambulance and Tom's just looking back there.

1263
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,560
He's like, what are you doing back there?

1264
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:16,160
And Cage is concocting this like IV cocktail for himself.

1265
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:22,000
Then he comes back up into the front and he's got like an oxygen mask on and he's got an IV.

1266
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,520
And they're just having this conversation.

1267
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,760
And Cage is just like through his oxygen mask.

1268
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,920
He's like, it's great to be drunk.

1269
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,520
Sobriety is killing me.

1270
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,600
His character is such a sad sack.

1271
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,200
He's always saying like, I don't feel good.

1272
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,320
I feel sick.

1273
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,120
I can't be here.

1274
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,800
It's like he just fucking hates his job.

1275
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,360
Yeah.

1276
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,240
Well, he also only consists on alcohol and coffee.

1277
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:44,800
He never eats.

1278
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,240
Eat a fucking sandwich, dude.

1279
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,120
Eat some chicken.

1280
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,920
Yeah.

1281
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Eat a half chicken and fries.

1282
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,520
He is very sickly looking throughout this movie.

1283
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,600
So malnourished for sure.

1284
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,800
Nick, what's your vote?

1285
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,800
I mean, I'm bringing out the dead guy.

1286
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,360
I'm.

1287
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Yeah, I've been very pro on this movie for a long time.

1288
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,880
It's it's weird.

1289
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,680
It it almost feels like it shouldn't be in this category

1290
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,840
because of how like kind of comedic the movie comes across.

1291
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,800
It's very dark.

1292
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,480
It's very serious, but it's got some comedy.

1293
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,160
But most dark things in life.

1294
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,840
Yeah, that's how people it's about.

1295
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:22,960
It's about people coping with time.

1296
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,640
And a lot of people do that with comedy.

1297
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,520
Yeah, I'm a I'm 100 percent bringing out the dead is my choice.

1298
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,360
So that's going forward.

1299
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:37,520
So this week in Cage, there is a Lords of War.

1300
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,680
They're doing a sequel to Lord of War

1301
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,720
where with Nick Cage and Bill Skarsgard,

1302
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,400
where Bill Skarsgard is going to play Nick Cage's son, who is also an arms dealer.

1303
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Now, this might just be like everybody's on board.

1304
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,800
It isn't like maybe in production.

1305
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,760
I don't know. Yeah.

1306
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,000
I'm just saying that news I read this week.

1307
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Yeah. Also, Nick Cage's earliest memory was being in the womb.

1308
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,720
Yes.

1309
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,320
I still need to watch the 60 minutes.

1310
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,760
I'm a bad Nick Cage.

1311
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,560
It was fine.

1312
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,640
You get to learn about him having a raven and like a snake.

1313
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,320
I wish I had a raven.

1314
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,480
Yeah, I wish I had a snake.

1315
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:12,980
Huguen.

1316
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,200
My mom was afraid of.

1317
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,720
Well, he's still afraid of snakes.

1318
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,320
Well, I haven't checked in.

1319
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,200
Yeah, she might be OK.

1320
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,640
Now I'll bring a snake home next time.

1321
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Good. That's a way to figure out if someone's still afraid of snakes.

1322
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Peter, what are we watching next?

1323
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,240
Next up, we've got the last of the six seeds versus 11 seeds

1324
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,840
in the fucking weird category.

1325
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:38,480
Mom and Dad with Selma Blair and where I think they all have to kill their kids.

1326
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,200
I don't know.

1327
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,880
It looks like the purge meets.

1328
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,120
Yeah, I think it's like there's some kind of like brain virus,

1329
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,600
airborne disease or something that makes parents turn against their kids.

1330
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,160
Yeah.

1331
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,320
And then it's up against next, which is where he is.

1332
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200
I think a charlatan who can predict the future.

1333
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,480
He has some knowledge of the future and a bad thing's going to happen.

1334
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,760
Yeah, there's there's two.

1335
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,480
There's one called knowing and there's one called next.

1336
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,960
Yeah, they are very much the same.

1337
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,800
It's upsetting that they're not going against each other.

1338
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,480
Yeah, they could, Sean.

1339
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,120
They could.

1340
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,160
I was looking at the bracket.

1341
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,720
They both would have to go to the final round of fucking weird.

1342
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:15,200
Yep.

1343
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,880
And I don't know.

1344
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,320
I haven't watched either of those films yet, but it seems like one of them will lose to Mandy.

1345
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,440
But who knows?

1346
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,800
Something will lose to Mandy.

1347
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,120
Something will lose to color out of space, I'm sure.

1348
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:25,680
Yeah.

1349
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Not to say that we pick favorites, but obviously those are those are standouts.

1350
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,840
There are good movies and there are bad movies.

1351
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,240
Yes.

1352
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,840
And then there are Nick Cage movies.

1353
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,200
Good night, everybody.

1354
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,960
No, we still have to say the other stuff.

1355
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Oh, like and subscribe.

1356
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Yes, please rate, review, subscribe.

1357
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,040
We are on Instagram at Cage underscore match underscore pod.

1358
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,320
Guys, I'm bad at segues.

1359
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,280
And when I have like a good outro, you guys just like, no, we can't have that.

1360
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,000
You didn't.

1361
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,920
That's not a good time to have an outro.

1362
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,800
Just because you outro doesn't mean you can't have an outro.

1363
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,560
Outro doesn't mean we're with you.

1364
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,920
That's a shitty spot to leave.

1365
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,360
We have to do the other stuff.

1366
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,160
Good night, everybody.

1367
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,400
Hey, remember that time you started the podcast in the middle of the podcast?

1368
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,800
OK, we're also on Reddit at Cage match pod.

1369
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,360
And if you are interested in supporting us, we are on Patreon at Cage match.

1370
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Also, if anybody wants to watch this week's movies,

1371
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,320
you know, when talkers is on HBO and bringing out the dead is on Paramount plus and.

1372
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,480
So Amazon with Showtime, I think I just.

1373
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,320
Oh, yes, I had HBO.

1374
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,120
I should have watched one time.

1375
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,560
There is also the pirate bay.

1376
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:30,720
There's that too.

1377
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,720
Not that I get a Plex account.

1378
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,320
What's Plex?

1379
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,880
How exactly isn't that just people pirating movies and putting them into an online folder?

1380
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,760
Yeah, I think that's it.

1381
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:41,760
How is that different?

1382
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:42,480
I don't know.

1383
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:43,680
Don't ask us.

1384
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,560
Thanks, everybody.

1385
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,720
Not going to say it again.

1386
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,760
I said it twice.

1387
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,720
Yeah, you're done.

1388
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:49,360
We we.

1389
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,320
Good night, everybody.

1390
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:56,800
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1391
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,760
Bye bye.

1392
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:10,160
Because my initial idea was a twink coin toss coin coin cost a twink cost twink.

1393
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,640
It cost you get a very different thing or twink tax.

1394
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,320
I got to pay the troll toll.

1395
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,000
Yeah.

1396
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Plus, I'm too fat.

1397
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,160
I'm more of a I'm more of a bear cub.

1398
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,480
Now, have we ever been shy about opening them up?

1399
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:30,080
Do it at a poignant moment.

1400
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:30,880
Yeah, exactly.

1401
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Let's talk about a really emotional scene.

1402
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,560
As soon as he gets real serious, he's going to tell us like the story of like

1403
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:42,480
his great aunt, like dying in his arms.

1404
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,520
No, that's my only living family member.

1405
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,320
Your great aunt.

1406
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Yeah, for now.

1407
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,160
Keep that in, Peter.

1408
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:48,960
I will.

1409
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:49,520
Good.

1410
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,720
Did you get that?

1411
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,280
No.

1412
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,160
Are we all going to stop in five minutes?

1413
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,640
Thanks, Mom.

1414
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,120
Guys, guys have to pee.

1415
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,480
We just stopped.

1416
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:05,280
I didn't have to pee then.

1417
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,440
Do it in your pants.

1418
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:09,280
I was going to say it's your chair, but it's my chair.

1419
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,080
Yeah.

1420
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,040
Fuck your chair up.

1421
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,840
You guys are going to have to pee now.

1422
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,040
I'm going to have to pee.

1423
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,440
You guys are going to have to pee now.

1424
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:18,080
God damn it.

1425
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,560
Go.

1426
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:48,480
You're going to have to hold it.