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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Oh, hey.

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Oh, matey.

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Welcome to a special episode of cage match, colon around about way of meeting Nicholas cage.

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We're recording, right? I'm not just talking to myself here.

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Yeah, you're not shooting this into the void.

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All right. Awesome. Yeah, this week and set.

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Well, he does that sometimes we'll just be standing around.

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I'll just I'll just go into this spiel.

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Yeah, I should start doing that.

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Somebody will enter the lion.

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Oh, hey, welcome to cage match.

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This special episode, we're talking about the film Renfield, which just came out.

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And we just went and saw at the weirdest movie theater.

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It's it's up there for weirdest I've ever been in.

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It's I mean, this isn't a review of the movie theater.

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It should be that we'll give them five minutes.

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So no urinals.

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I mean, there were that urinals, but now they're covered with trash bags.

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Yeah, they're thoroughly backed up.

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I don't think they're getting fixed anytime soon.

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But most importantly, the entire thing was sort of loosely nautical themed.

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Hence the ahoy. Yeah.

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Yeah. Theaters were all peers.

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We were in Pier three today. Yeah.

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The entrance to the much like real appears, the toilets were terrifying.

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Entrance was like from behind the screen.

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That was great. Oh, yeah.

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I'm glad I got in there before you guys,

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so I could see you guys do the same weird double take that I did.

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Yeah. And then I have to walk all the way in.

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And then we watched the movie with five other people.

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Yeah, I did like how the you know, it took them about seven minutes

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to realize the house lights were still on instead of the gentle downgrade.

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Instead of the dimmer switch, someone just like, I don't think this place

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has a dimmer switch. Almost certainly.

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I think they just retrofitted some fluorescence and put some LED lights

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in there and they're just like, OK.

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And then when the movie the lights did not come back on. Yeah.

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Well, they were they were also like servicing people at the concession stand.

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So those two guys can only do so much. It's true.

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OK, well, Renfield.

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Yeah. So I guess a fair warning, we might have some loose spoilers,

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but we're not going to like go scene by scene or anything like that.

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So just our initial thoughts and like our impressions of

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this new Nicolas Cage film.

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Slaps and fucks. I like it.

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I loved it. It was awesome.

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I thought it was a lot of fun.

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It was really, really enjoyable.

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And also the most creative violence I've seen since shoot them up.

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Yeah, that's fair. No, the violence in this is nutty.

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It's wacky. There's a lot of disarming.

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There's yeah, there are several disarming scenes.

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Very gruesome.

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I would say if you've seen the trailers, you have the general idea

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of the main beats of the story.

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Yeah, the trailers really did kind of lay out

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what you're going to get here pretty well.

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There's no big surprises. I don't think.

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I mean, ultimately, it's a movie about a breakup.

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Yeah. Renfield, being the familiar of Dracula,

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finds his their way into New Orleans

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as they're finding a new home for Dracula.

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And in an effort to bring him bodies,

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meets up with a support group, uses their sad sob stories

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to find victims, which solves their problems and his problems

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as he takes out the people who abuse them.

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And then things don't go well.

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Yeah, runs afoul of some less than savory characters.

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Hilarity ensues.

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That's pretty much the movie.

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That is kind of the entire thing. Great.

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I knew we could do this in under 40 minutes.

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I know we're good. We got five.

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I think we call it cool. See you next week, everybody.

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This is the easiest edit I'll have to do.

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I'm going to cut five into three. Bye bye. Yeah.

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So Nicholas Cage in this film,

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I know he was saying that he considers this like a direct sequel to the original.

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Yeah. Dracula.

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Universal Studios Dracula, which actually I want to talk about this.

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Nick, you watched that today.

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Yeah, I watched it before we went out today. So I.

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What are your thoughts on this being a direct sequel?

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Well, OK, so first of all, I don't think I had ever seen

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the 1930s Bella Lugosi Dracula film.

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And first of all, it was great.

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I highly recommend it.

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It's a it's a quick hour and 15 minutes.

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So if you're going to go out to go see Renfield, just slap this on beforehand.

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And I don't think you're going to regret it.

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It brings home a couple of jokes, especially when they do the recap of the movie.

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Cap of like what's been going on.

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It's really well put together the tie in between the two movies.

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As far as like how does it work as a direct sequel?

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I think it works well in the end of the 1931 film.

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You could say there's ambiguity in the fate of Dracula.

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Whatever happens, happens off screen.

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So it's plausible that he survived

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and continued with the help of his familiar Renfield.

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Lugosi isn't unhinged, but he's, you know, for a film in the 30s,

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he's got a very large presence.

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His actions are pretty big.

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They're not overwhelming, but it's something that I would write off as

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the shit storm that Dracula like goes through

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in constantly having people hunting him and what not.

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You know, you could say that that has probably taken a mental toll on him,

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despite being fairly immortal and fairly long lived at this point.

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Well, and having to like live in less than savory conditions.

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Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah.

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All the the running and the travelers taking a toll, as they say in the movie,

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on the coffers of Dracula's former wealth.

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And he looks like shit.

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Yeah, he's had a rough go.

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So finding it's always after somebody attacks them that they find their way

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to a new town and have to set up all over again.

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So he's recovering the makeup work on Nicolas Cage in this film

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and his various forms, shall we say, was gross and awesome.

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Yeah. Oh, the makeup in this was really well done.

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The visual effects were well put together.

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The prosthetics were good.

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So how do we think our boy, Nick Cage did?

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Oh, I think he did pretty well.

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It was it was an invigorating performance.

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Like he really had a lot of energy.

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Everything just kind of moved really well.

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It looked like he was having a really good time.

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He hands it up something fierce and it's just peak cage.

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Yeah. Everything he's doing is so big, but it's not outside of the world of the movie.

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Like it fits for how everybody else just sort of reacts to things.

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There's a tone to this movie that his performance just slides right into.

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And it's just complimented so well by Nick Holt and Awkwafina.

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I mean, it's a tight cast.

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Yeah. Cage was great.

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But everyone else, this whole supporting cast, I mean,

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it's really more of a Nicholas Holt film.

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Yeah. Nicholas Cage.

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Awkwafina and Ben Schwartz.

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Yeah. You're never not going to be John Raffaele.

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Oh, no. He I didn't notice his car in the beginning.

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I didn't notice till the end that it has like the wolf symbol.

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Oh, yeah. Snorting a line of coke.

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Yeah, that was pretty awesome.

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Beautiful. Why wouldn't it?

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I know I want to I want to rent this at some point

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and actually like freeze frame some of his tattoos.

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Yeah. No, those must be shitty.

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Oh, sure. I want to see.

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I want to get the DVD and like watch bonus features

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because the end credits have a lot of like still frames of stuff

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that's not in the movie.

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And I want to see those scenes.

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Yeah. Like there's a dance number at one point.

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They definitely had a really good time collecting B roll in the credits.

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And I'm sure just on on set and stuff.

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It must have been a lot of fun.

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It looked like these actors had a lot of fun making this movie.

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And goes to the clip.

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Yeah, it's an hour thirty three.

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Yeah. And it just it moves. It's fun.

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I really have really no major complaints about it.

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No, I mean, maybe one or two lines come off occasionally

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or like a a joke doesn't land.

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But those are mostly ones that you've seen in the trailers.

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Yeah. So well, sometimes stuff like that.

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It helps if you see it in a full movie theater,

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because sometimes a chuckle from somewhere can kind of trigger

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that reaction where some of those might have hit

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if we weren't with just five other random people.

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Yeah. I didn't know. Yeah, that's fair.

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And they don't seem to like laughing with me.

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No, they didn't laugh at almost anything. Yeah.

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Some people don't like fun.

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Yeah. Well, this movie is not for them.

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Yeah, because this movie is fun.

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But I'm glad they gave their money to it. Yeah.

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Because this movie really does need a little bit of a boost.

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Yeah. One thing to note, it did have a very poor opening weekend

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coming out against some real strong movies with Mario.

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John Wick for John Wick for and the Pope's Exorcist.

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Oh, that's right. So yeah, it's a competition in a hard space right now.

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Yeah, it's hard.

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I'm sure releasing a movie like a monster feature in April.

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I know October is also pretty stacked for Universal.

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So they've got some movies that they definitely don't want this to compete with.

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But unfortunately, this turned out to be not the best weekend

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to try to release something like this on such a wide scale.

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It had like a what I say, thirty three hundred theater release. Yeah.

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So fairly large release.

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Didn't quite pull enough people away from Mario.

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And I mean, if you're on the fence of watching it, definitely go watch it.

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Oh, it's a blast.

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Do a double feature. Watch John Wick afterwards. Yeah.

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Just get all your violence out now.

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And then you'll never be have violent thoughts again. Yeah.

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I had I had a question about speaking of violence.

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Nicholas Holt's character gains Dracula's powers.

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Yeah, to a degree.

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Being a bug.

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But I thought it was special bugs.

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And it's just bugs.

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But yeah, and that goes back even like it's shown in the 30s movie to true.

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Yeah, interesting.

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So and it's so fun because like all the like bugs and stuff

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in the old movie are just like little plastic things

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that you can see being like pulled on like a piece of monofilament or something.

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Like legs don't move.

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They just kind of move across.

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Or like when Bella Lugosi would turn into a bat

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and he'd be like flying up to Mina's room

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and he'd just be like flying outside the door

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and he'd just be flapping his wings and flying in place right at the threshold.

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More great physical comedy from this podcast.

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Uh huh. So good. And thank you, Sean.

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They could hear the flapping. Yeah.

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So yeah, it's it's an established trait for Renfield.

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No, not special bugs.

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No, just bugs. Just bugs.

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In the original, Renfield is committed to a sanitarium

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because he's kind of wackadoodle once he gets to London.

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And the guy who like the main orderly or whatever

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just calls him Mr. Flyator.

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Like the the tone of the movies is also kind of shockingly close

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in the amount of humor that's worked into the horror.

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So that's interesting.

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I mean, it's kind of surprising thinking about a movie that's

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fucking 90 years old.

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Yeah. Still being able to be kind of relevant and matching in tone.

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Yeah. I mean, it was just I'm really glad I back to back it.

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And it was a fun experience.

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I'm kind of jealous. I wish I would have done that today.

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Yeah. I think that would have really painted a bigger picture for me.

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Good cage. Good movie.

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I'm inclined to say yes.

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I think it was a good performance from Nick Cage.

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And if you're looking for an adult comedy,

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then this is a really fun movie.

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It's not going to win awards.

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I mean, there's a reason this isn't getting a release right before Oscar season.

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It's just not that movie.

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But it's not going to get a Razzie.

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So it's right in the middle.

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It's it's fun. It's a it's a good romp.

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I don't think anybody would regret seeing it now.

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And it has some. Unless they just hate Nick Cage. Right.

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Sorry. I do think it has some great.

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And why are you listening to our podcast?

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Don't listen to us.

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Fuck you, Bert. Get out of here.

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I think it has some great cage lines, too.

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I mean, we don't have quotes pulled up or anything,

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but like I really was amused by a lot of the shit that he said.

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And the way he delivers his lines is really excellent.

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Yeah. The way he's able to swap back and forth in his delivery

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in like that manipulative way to anger and like unfettered rage.

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It's a really, really good performance.

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And I'm wondering in the screenwriting process

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if they'd always thought Nick Cage,

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because it seems so perfect for him.

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Physically, I think Nick Cage and Nick Holt match well

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with the original actors of Bella Lugosi and Dwight.

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For playing, you know, an ancient dead guy, this is the most alive.

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I feel we've seen Nick Cage in recent films.

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Well, he definitely has, you know, talked about being inspired by Lugosi

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and, you know, creature features and all that kind of stuff.

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Oh, he's always loved like, yeah, that era of filmmaking.

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And I mean, going back to Vampire's Kiss,

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him talking about, you know, trying to recreate a silent movie monster

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in a talkie. Mm hmm.

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If you like shit storms, this movie.

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Yeah, this movie doesn't let up.

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It's 100% roller coaster.

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If that roller coaster is loops, I was going to say that roller

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that roller coaster is just the down bits,

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not down and bad, just the fun fast bits. Yeah.

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I also don't know what metaphors are.

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Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Yeah. Any closing thoughts?

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If you have the time, please go see it in theaters.

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Because something like this is really awesome.

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And I think Jumpstart Universal's plans for like a universal monster

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universe, like cinematic universe that they've talked about in the past

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would be really cool.

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And yet, like modern adaptations or modern follow ups of like classic

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mummy stories or swamp creature stories.

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Frankenstein's monster again.

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We need this movie to do well so we can maybe get a remake of Monster Squad

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with Nicolas Cage.

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Oh, that would be fucking awesome.

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That would be awesome.

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So do yourself a favor.

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Find an hour and a half this week to have fun.

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Yeah. I'm you know, I'm looking at my calendar and I think April 20th.

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It's right around the corner.

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That sounds like a great day to just get with some friends,

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have a sandwich and go.

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John, that's fucking great movie.

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Great action. Great comedy.

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Some of the best cage we've seen in a long time. Go see it.

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It was fresh. Yep.

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Fun flick. 10 out of 10 blood bags.

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Oh, also, I'm Sean.

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I'm here with my co-host Nick and our producer Peter.

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Hello. And that was cage match, everybody.

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Bye bye. Bye bye.

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I was going to try to pull up Nosferatu today, too,

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just to see if the performance, the physical performance

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had a lot of similarities.

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But just on my right, like memory of the movie and then watching this,

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I don't think that was as relevant.

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So this sentence can just get cut. Great.

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Fucking worthless statement.

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Cut it out.

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Unlike that time, I just fucking blasted ass while saying shit storm.

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We're keeping that in.