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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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And no matter what I do, Peter yells at me.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Sorry, Sean.

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Now I feel bad. Good.

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Welcome back to Cage Match, everybody.

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Colon around about wave meeting Nicholas Cage.

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I'm Sean here with Nick and.

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Hi, I'm Peter, the producer of this show.

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And this week we have some special guests.

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Why don't you guys go ahead and introduce yourselves?

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Hello, I'm Alex.

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And I'm Sammy.

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And we're the original siblings.

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Cut that please.

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Nailed it. Nailed it.

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Excellent.

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No, that's perfect. That was flawless.

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Yeah, tell us a little bit about your show before we really jump into things.

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Yes, we're from Star Trek, the original siblings.

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That's our podcast where we watch old episodes of Star Trek.

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And we talk through the whole thing.

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And it's pretty fun. We make jokes.

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Sammy talks about how hot Spock is and we just kind of goof around and have a good old time.

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I get it.

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Young nemoi.

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Oh, yeah.

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Actual nemoi.

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He still gives me like stern uncle vibes though, even when he's young.

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That's valid.

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So, yeah, Cage Match is a bracket style, 64 Nick Cage movies going head to head.

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So they're all seeded better to worse.

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And this week we have a three seed going up against a 14 seed.

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This is the fucking weird part of our bracket.

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Yes. So.

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Yeah, these films definitely occupy a very specific corner of Nick Cage's career.

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And I think it's very fitting that they are up against one another.

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The bad part.

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We've had this weird, perfect storm where just the right movies go up against each other

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without trying to solve just an aggregate score based on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB, Peter.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So it's just been sort of random how the matchups shook out.

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But there's always something that kind of blends between the two movies.

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So kind of cool.

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Maybe it's just Nick Cage.

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Sometimes it's mustaches.

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It could be mustaches. Yeah.

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These two are both late stage Cage.

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Modern Cage.

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2018 and 2021?

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I think so.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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Before we really jump into that though, what's your relationship to Cage movies?

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You reached out to us, Alex, and said that you were a medium Cage head.

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Yes, and that's only by the standards of fanatics.

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By the standards of an ordinary person, we're both fanatics, I'd say.

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Yeah, we've been long time Cage heads.

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We just love the crap out of Nicolas Cage.

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We've been really into him for a long time.

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We got back in high school or something back in probably like, I don't know, 2008 or something.

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We got into a big Cage war where we would send each other on Facebook.

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We would Facebook, remember that?

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We would send each other pictures of Nick Cage's face photoshopped onto other stuff

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back and forth.

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We said we were having a Cage match and we'd just send them back and forth.

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But going back, gosh, I can't think of quite what the movie was that made him click for

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me.

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Definitely an early favorite that still...

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I think it was Adaptation, probably.

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Or Matchstick Man, or Weatherman.

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Weatherman was the one I was going to say.

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That's the first time I remember really clocking how much I loved him.

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And it's still one of my very favorite Cage films.

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I think it's a genuinely good one, so I don't know.

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Do you guys hate it?

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Oh, we haven't watched Weatherman yet, but I hope you haven't listened to our Adaptation

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one.

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You guys don't like Adaptation?

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Oh, one of us does.

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I love the Adaptation one.

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And I love that there's two Nick Cages in Adaptation because the more Nick's, the better.

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Perfect.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

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I love that Peter looks like Charlie Kaufman.

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No, I look like Donald Kaufman.

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Oh, shit.

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You went through a windshield.

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And I don't give a fuck.

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Am I correct in remembering that you said that you guys watched Prisoners of the Ghostland

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at Thanksgiving?

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Yeah, a couple years ago, like right when it came out, we were together and I was quite

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excited for the release.

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I get pretty excited for all his new releases these days.

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I watched, I picked 20 books to watch the old ways, like the day it came out on YouTube.

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Like I had friends over, I shaved my facial hair into a handlebar mustache, I wore a cowboy

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hat.

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It was like an event for me.

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Did you shave it into a handlebar and then immediately shave it after five minutes?

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Because that would be appropriate for that movie.

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Just as soon as the flashback's over.

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He should have had it for the whole film.

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It would have made the movie worth it, honestly.

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Alright, well.

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So Mandy, why don't you guys run us through what this movie's about?

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So this is the movie that they show kids to discourage them from doing drugs.

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It's also not meant to be watched without drugs for the record.

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Neither of these movies are.

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I was really high the first time I saw both these movies.

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I was completely sober.

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Now the second and third time I've seen both of these films.

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And it's a mistake.

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Like definitely watch these movies high.

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In a sentence, Nick Cage's wife Mandy gets abducted and killed by a crazy cult.

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And Nick goes on a furious rampage to get revenge on them involving chainsaws and giant

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medieval looking battle axes and a lot of screaming and a lot of drugs.

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And it's fucking wacky and he descends into a sort of hellscape of weird cults, visuals.

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The whole thing's kind of like a music video, but there's dialogue.

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Yeah, I don't know if this is the right time to say this, but for a revenge movie, the

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actual fights and killing people was kind of lame.

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I feel like all of the killing scenes were just like the camera was all over the place

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and I was like, I can't see what's happening.

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And then the one that you can see is just him getting his face squished.

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I'm like, okay, that was cool, I guess.

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Yeah, a lot of the fights were very dark.

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I had no idea what was happening.

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Did no one see the dick sword?

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It was a dick sword!

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It was a dick sword.

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Oh, I saw a dick sword.

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I think there's a really excellent like 35, 40 minute movie in the middle of this two

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hour movie.

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Like there's an hour of like nothing at the front except for an awesome King Crimson song

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that they open with, then just a whole lot of meandering and like boring being in love

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scenes.

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But once she gets abducted and set on fire, it really picks up in a fun way.

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When I did my third watch of it, I just fast forwarded right to that point.

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That's not even one.

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I thought that the beginning of the movie really did a good job of like pulling me in

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and easing me into the visual style and easing me in.

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I mean, they throw you right into like red shots and stuff like that, like hugely saturated

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colors.

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If you just walked into a movie and it started as fucked up as...

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Oh, I don't disagree.

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But also to be fair, the movie is framed where at the halfway point after the burning of

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the game is when the title card drops.

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I think you could easily chop 30 minutes of it though, of that first hour.

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Like there's good stuff, I like them laying in bed and stuff, but then it's like it's

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just a bunch of them laying around and her reading her book being like, the primordial

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sky is within my heart.

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Can you just get set on fire already?

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I rarely agree with Nick, but I'm on board with him.

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Just like, nah, I loved all of it.

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And then there was like the animated sequences.

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Oh yeah, that's right.

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That's so good.

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I forgot about those until I watched it a second time.

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I was like, hell yeah.

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This movie felt to me like an even better version of Heavy Metal.

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Thank you.

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If Heavy Metal could have been good, it would have been man-made.

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Yeah, no, agreed.

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I mean, the animation is very similar.

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Before you get to see a wiener.

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You do see a wiener.

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They drop full hog.

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I don't know if that was a full hog.

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That was, it was enough of a hog for this movie though.

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I do want to point out, this is this director's second film.

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Oh wow.

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And that's awesome.

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Yeah, director is Panos Cosmitos.

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And I'll say he is doing exactly like what he is intending to do.

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Like it's not like poorly put together or like nothing is an accident.

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Like it's very, he clearly has a vision and those parts of it that I don't love, but it's

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very intentional.

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Like he's definitely like making the film that he wants to make sort of a thing, you

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I watched an interview today with the director and Nick Cage and Nick Cage was saying how

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it's so great when you have a director that has that kind of vision and working in a smaller

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studio space.

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Because as an actor, he doesn't have to worry about shit.

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He doesn't have to worry about producers coming in and fucking with shit.

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He can just do what the director wants.

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Plus he spent several scenes just like laying there almost asleep or literally asleep.

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So like that's also easy probably for an actor.

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He made a joke about Eric Estrada.

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Come on.

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I didn't get it.

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I don't think anyone got that joke.

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So Mandy, I hated her art and that was like supposed to be some, it's just van art.

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It sucks.

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I hated her whole vibe.

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I thought she was irritating.

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As somebody who really wishes they had a wizard van.

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Fair.

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I'm just wondering why would she possibly be with him or is this just my like female

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perspective?

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He's like this old loser guy.

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He's a fucking lumberjack.

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He's a sexy lumberjack that listens to all of her boring mandarings.

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He's so much older than she is.

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Can I just say when the old woman hit on him at the end of the movie, I was like, there's

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an age appropriate partner for you, Nick Cage.

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Ouch.

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She did seem a lot younger.

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You're right.

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Now to be fair, Mandy didn't look like a spring chicken.

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Life hadn't been easy on her.

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No, I mean everyone in this looks like that.

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Also, it really made me think like if I'm going to have a cult, I want to have an attractive

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cult because every cult I see seems to be real fucking busted.

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These ones have the best cultists though.

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There was like baby teeth.

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Baby teeth are really good.

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There's that big boy.

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Yeah, the big boy with curly blonde hair.

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Jeremiah's got a perfect combination of like great hair, but like he's kind of disgusting,

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but like he has this beautiful mane of hair.

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Like it looks like a wig, which I suppose probably was because this is a movie.

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No, no, he grew it.

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Believe, just believe.

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It's definitely uglier people that you usually see in a movie, which I guess is refreshing.

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I mean, Drive Angry also had a cult that was full of pretty busted people.

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I think it's just kind of the thing.

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Cults for uglies.

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I mean, if you're only going to give someone three lines and then they're going to die,

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do you really want to pay for beautiful people prices?

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Well, here's the thing.

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You can't have a movie about a cult with pretty people because Scientology won't allow it.

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Oh, there you go.

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The cultist roles, though, would be awesome to play.

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I always think about that.

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Like if I were acting in one of these movies, like being one of those cultists, there's

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that slack jawed fucking dude sitting in the car, like rolling the window up and down.

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Like he.

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Oh, that was great.

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So we haven't really talked about like what this movie is.

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Is.

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OK, yeah.

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So I think it wouldn't be a cage match episode without a Nick and or Sean quick, quote unquote,

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recap.

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I've noticed the quick recaps tend to not be quick.

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I'm trying really hard.

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I'm working on things.

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The problem is I've gotten really good segues and Nick's gotten good at summing things up.

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Yeah, I'm real good at brevity.

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So Manny's it like takes place in some woods.

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By Crystal Lake.

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Nick Cage is a lumberjack and Manny's a stay at home artist.

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No, she had a library job or something.

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She worked at a convenience store that charged five dollars for a tomato in 1983.

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Oh, this movie takes place in 1983.

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For no reason.

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I mean, the great tomato shortage of 83.

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The tomato famine.

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The Italians were up in arms.

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I'm not joking.

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So he's a lumberjack.

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She's an artist that also works at a convenience store selling overfries tomatoes.

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And one day, like she's out just like having a smoke in the red lighting.

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This wild ass van drives up on him and it's got the cult leader in it.

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And he kind of does like a roll by and he's like, and he sees Mandy and he's like, nice.

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I like her vacant eyes.

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Yeah.

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I really like the way it looks like her face has been run over.

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And I want to point out, you're describing this as though that's the first plot beat,

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but that happens at like the 45 minute mark.

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Well, I mean, OK, you've got a lot of like development for 45 minutes and then.

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But developing a character who just dies.

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I mean, but immediately we need to understand his reason for want to murder.

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Look, you wanted it brief.

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I'm trying to be brief by cutting out a third of the movie.

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There you go.

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Thank you.

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I think it's a good synopsis.

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And I think that's the third of the movie that should have been cut out.

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I just like that they're like justifying to the audience why we why he said that his wife

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died by like spending all this time with their characters.

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It's like it's his wife.

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Of course, he's upset.

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We we assume that they like each other.

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We could suss that one out.

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They watch cheddar goblin commercials together.

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Oh, my God.

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I love the cheddar goblin.

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So cheddar goblin is a scene where after Mandy dies, Red, Nick Cage walks into the living

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room and there's a commercial playing, which could have been a commercial right out of

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the 80s, because I mean, that's what they're going for.

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But I wasn't unsure that I hadn't seen that commercial before about a goblin who eats

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all the macaroni and cheese and then like throws it up in kids faces because it's goblin

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good.

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Oh, I was just going to say, it's clear that I didn't love this movie.

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But every time there was something they were watching on TV, I was just like, wow, I wish

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I was watching that instead.

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But the cheddar goblin is like a freaky puppet, and the other thing I like about him is the

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way the cheddar goblin commercial is cut.

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There's like a lot of like oddly lingering shots.

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It'll be like cheddar goblin, like puke on a kid.

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And then it'll just kind of be like a frame of cheddar goblin just kind of like standing

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there for like several seconds.

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It's not at all how the commercial would be cut.

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It's like a weird art film and it makes me laugh a lot.

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I'm like, cut away from cheddar goblin.

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But they made the cheddar goblin thing for like five thousand bucks or something to the

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contract of the guy to like make a puppet and do the whole thing.

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I could have done that for two thousand dollars.

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You should have talked to Cosmos Panatos.

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I got a goblin right here.

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Panos Cosmitos.

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I really want a budget breakdown of this movie.

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I know Nicolas Cage was the most expensive thing, but I want to know how much everything

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else cost.

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Oh, the actual real budget breakdown.

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A lot of red light.

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I mean, yeah.

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That's a lot of red light.

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Yeah, that's the most expensive light.

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Yeah.

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So he goes back and he goes back to his cult.

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He tells like Red Foreman that he needs to like go out and not.

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It's like meth Foreman.

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He's like Red Foreman.

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If you like, yeah, he's like, I need that girl.

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She makes me feel complete or I can't remember the exact word.

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It was kind of creepy, but in like a beautiful way, he's like, I need you to get her and

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do whatever you got to use fatty over there for payment or whatever.

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Do you have the horn of a Braxis?

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Yeah, I thought that was a euphemism for a penis, but it wasn't.

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It should be.

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It is now.

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Oh, man, I love the relics in this.

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So that's Foreman takes fatty and a couple of the other like cultists out in their Winnebago.

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OK, I do want to say when they're sitting in the car and the slack job one is just playing

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with the window.

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That's totally what you did in the 80s when not every car had automatic windows.

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Yeah.

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Self on days and meth Foreman's obviously getting upset.

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He's like, you're going to kill the battery.

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You can see it in his face.

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He's like, kill the battery.

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We're going to be lost out here.

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So he grabs the the horn of a Braxis, which is just an ocarina.

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Yeah.

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And he plays some like bitching tunes out in the woods and I think it was two notes.

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Like it's a summoning.

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Yeah.

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And they're like, did it work?

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Then you see the red lights coming from the distance behind them and then the cinnabites

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on motorcycles show up.

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The Ghost Riders.

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Yeah.

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They drink some stuff from a weird paste jar.

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And they were in both movies, but they were they were a bit more agreeable and prisoners

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of the ghost land.

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They were mean in this one.

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So they give up fatty as a blood sacrifice because the cinnabites like blood for blood.

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So we were talking about how the yeah, some of the cinnabites to go kidnap Mandy.

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Yeah.

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And they go and like and they do.

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Yeah, they do.

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Successfully beat up red did like in that scene, though, he thinks they drug her up

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and then he thinks this time I'm going to win her over.

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I'm going to play her my single.

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Oh my God.

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He makes her listen to his fucking mixtape.

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Jeremiah was a really swell guy.

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It's an incredible album.

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It's 17 minute long song that they put up on SoundCloud.

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Did they really?

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Yeah, when they released it, it's it's the song which did become a bestseller after the

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movie, but it also has a 17 minute in character interview with Jack.

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Oh, OK.

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Well, that's fucking awesome.

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Talking about his life and God.

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Well, yeah.

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So before that, they drug her up with the like.

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Yeah.

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LSD.

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They dropped that right in her eyes, but then they also sting her with a giant bug.

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It's a tarantula hawk wasp.

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But why?

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Just to contribute to the yuckiness of the movie, I think.

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I'm well, it was apparently marinating in some kind of chemicals, so I'm assuming this

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is headcanon that.

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Yeah, they just like soak it in LSD and then it stings you.

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And not only is like the pain going to make your high like that much higher, but there's

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also just, you know, extra poisons and venoms in it to like get you that next.

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Also, if you're asking questions at this point.

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

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I take it back.

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I don't know, man.

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Yeah, I would try it.

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So I do want to say I did appreciate that you had the you had the hell riders, the center

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bike bike riders.

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We had one guy with just a four wheeler.

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Yeah, it was the less talented one.

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I used to growing up, I used to be the kid who was always riding a scooter with all my

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friends riding a bike.

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So that was that was the me equivalent of the of the place, OK, because I couldn't ride

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a bike.

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He plays his mixtape.

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He shows her his wiener and she laughs.

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As you should.

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Yeah, because I mean, I'm not as worldly as I'm sure some mandies are.

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But that penis was not like a highlight of my life.

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It could have been a grower.

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Probably not.

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Yeah.

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And actually, if you zoom in on the screen a little bit, you can actually see the penis.

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I mean, after most non.

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Adult documentary penises I've seen on TV mostly mostly be an HBO.

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Like they all have the weird CG penis that's just overly large.

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That's just the watchman.

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He does have that big blue shawl on.

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But I will say it was it was the smallest movie dick I've ever seen.

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Yeah, it made me feel good because it's like not only am I bigger than this guy, but I

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don't have to hang out with all of his weird creepy cult friends.

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Yeah, it's like when he takes out his dick suddenly his entire personality makes sense.

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Yeah, it just all gels right there.

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Oh, this cult.

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I get it now.

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So OK, so she laughs.

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She laughs and then the cult leaders like, well, fuck that.

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And so now apparently she doesn't complete him and he goes out to Nick Cage.

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He's like tied up with barbed wire like his hands are bound to a fence and he's got like

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a barbed wire like a fucking gag in his mouth.

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And he's like, hey, man, I'm going to kill your bitch and then I'm going to kill you

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too.

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And so one of the cultists like strings up this sleeping bag that's thrashing and they

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pour gas all over and they light it on fire.

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It's like it's probably Mandy, but we don't know for sure.

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We never really find out.

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That's true.

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You don't see her in the bag.

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They couldn't be burning anyone in that bag.

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Anyone.

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She could have joined the cult.

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That was the easy out.

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They're like, OK, she's in.

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We got to fake her now because that's what you do when you join a cult.

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You think you're dead.

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I just assume she's painting vans somewhere in like Vermont.

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So they set her on fire and Nick Cage gets to do some sweet like silent screaming and

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stuff and we have like just real intense visuals.

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And then the movie starts, the movie starts.

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And then the Mandy title card shows up.

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We're solidly an hour in.

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Yeah, I got to say those chapter cards were fucking sick.

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Yeah, yeah, dude.

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Those were nice.

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They all like nice, like old 80s metal.

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Album art.

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So they leave and Nick Cage, you know, gets his shit together and he like pulls his fucking

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hand out through the barbed wire.

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He's like, just cut himself.

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Also, does he have a T-Rex tattoo on his left arm?

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I hope so.

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I think so.

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Yeah, that was fucking sick.

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T-Rex like a tyrannosaurus or T-Rex like, like, yeah.

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Banger gone.

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T-Rex.

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What is it with this era of Cage?

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Because this and what was the one with the ghost wife and the daughter?

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Between Worlds.

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Between Worlds.

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Where we just instant classic.

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He's got like a long sleeve, like baseball shirt with a tiger on it or something.

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And then tighty whitey.

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Yeah, just a tighty whitey look.

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You know that vibe kind of kicked off with Joe that one he did a couple of years earlier

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where he's like drilling sap from trees or whatever.

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Have you guys seen that one?

481
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I feel like that was like where he kicked into this era of like, I'm redneck lumberjack

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Nick Cage now.

483
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We just did that as our last episode.

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I think once your body starts to change in older age, you sort of figure out what roles

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you want to take.

486
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Yeah, he's going for the adult thing.

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We're all going to be redneck lumberjacks one day.

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So Cage gets himself out, has a sad moment with supposedly his wife's skull.

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Has a good tequila scream.

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Best scene in the whole movie, in my opinion.

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Agreed.

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Yeah, goes in and like cleans up by like rinsing himself with vodka and getting drunk and sitting

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on the toilet screaming.

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Lots of screaming.

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It's one of the best Nick Cage freaking out I think we've seen in cinema.

496
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,440
It's a top tier Nick Cage freak out.

497
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:37,240
He said he was taking a lot of his emotions from his recent divorce from like divorcing

498
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,000
his 14 year, wife of 14 years.

499
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320
And I think it was his 14th wife in two years.

500
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,120
But he used it as like, you know, therapy.

501
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,400
And I love that aspect of Cage.

502
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,400
Character acting.

503
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:58,360
It gives us the best acting style that he's going to write a book on one day.

504
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:04,560
So he gets all cleaned up, then he goes and visits his buddy Carruthers, who gives him

505
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320
his crossbow back.

506
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,720
Like it's Cage's crossbow that he's been holding on to.

507
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720
And he's like, what are you going to do with that thing?

508
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,320
He's like, I don't want to hunt.

509
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320
And so he's like, well, then you're going to need this other thing.

510
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320
It's in the cabinet there.

511
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320
And he opens it up.

512
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600
And it's just two arrows to go with it.

513
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,600
It's like, cool.

514
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600
He's like, I've made those myself.

515
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,600
And I'm like, that is fucking impractical.

516
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,760
You can do that.

517
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,720
And he goes and like, you see, like picking off four wheeler dude.

518
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,720
No, you don't.

519
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Yeah, you're missing an important thing.

520
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,720
Because then he goes and makes an axe.

521
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,720
Oh, yeah.

522
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,720
So he goes home.

523
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Forges an axe.

524
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,720
What the fuck is up with the axe?

525
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Well, I know that we're the Star Trek people, but that was like such a Klingon weapon, you

526
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,040
know.

527
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,040
It's very much like a Batliff.

528
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,440
Was that what he was going for?

529
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,080
It's like it's like halfway between a Batliff and a Lurpo, right?

530
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,080
Exactly.

531
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,320
The design of the axe is inspired by the metal band Celtic Frost's logo.

532
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,800
Yeah, why wouldn't it be?

533
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,920
The F of the Celtic Frost.

534
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Celtic Frost.

535
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,440
Yeah, I just thought that was obvious.

536
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,160
So I didn't think we needed to say it, right?

537
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,080
You do that instantly, right?

538
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,080
It's productive.

539
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,240
I mean, this is bad podcasting.

540
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,280
We'll just cut that explanation.

541
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,280
It's fine.

542
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,240
This is the biggest pain point in this movie for me.

543
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560
It's just like, why?

544
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Because it's awesome.

545
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,840
It is.

546
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,840
But why?

547
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440
He's got he's got fucking he's got a murder to do.

548
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,440
He's forging.

549
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,600
He's smelting and melting things and then re-

550
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,720
Well, you don't rush into revenge.

551
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,120
I think outside of a few very selective sections, you could kind of say why about most of the

552
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,120
this movie.

553
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,680
So it's like the why, I guess, is for stylistic purposes at the end of the day, right?

554
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,120
Because that's kind of the whole thing is like an exercise of stylized this like.

555
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,760
100 percent.

556
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,480
But then it's immediately taken from him and then he finds it again.

557
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,080
So like he could have just found it.

558
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,080
Yeah.

559
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,080
Yeah.

560
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,080
That's not that was funny.

561
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Makes it himself.

562
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,080
Then we get the scene.

563
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,280
So not saying it's not cool.

564
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,280
It's like impractical.

565
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Why cooler than Iron Man making an Iron Man suit on a computer?

566
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480
He had a hair enough.

567
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,480
He did once have a hammer.

568
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280
He did once have a hammer.

569
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,680
So he goes with his newly minted FX.

570
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,680
Fax.

571
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,680
Fax machine.

572
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:24,760
He takes his fax machine to the cinnabites and he like shoots quad guy and then immediately

573
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:31,080
gets it is like Bronco and fucking rips around and just gives the guy in the quad a header

574
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,760
with the Bronco.

575
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240
But it launches his car into the air.

576
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,080
And so then they capture him and take him back to like, I don't know,

577
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,080
Cenabite.

578
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,080
Yes.

579
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,080
And these bikers kind of vary between being nearly indestructible and being really easy

580
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,080
to kill.

581
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,080
Yeah.

582
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,080
Unlike the context of the scene.

583
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Yeah.

584
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,720
What I mean is like they'll bleed a lot and not die.

585
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,240
But then they could also just like get a hangnail and die.

586
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Well the next one falls down a pit.

587
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Yeah.

588
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,240
But he didn't die.

589
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Yeah.

590
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Then he climbs out of the pit.

591
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,640
So Cage is like handcuffed to a radiator in a basement and his left hand is nailed to

592
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:22,920
the tile floor, which is impractical, but loosens up this pipe and like tricks a Cenabite

593
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,200
to coming in over to him and then he knocks him with it and sends him into the previously

594
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,200
mentioned pit.

595
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,200
The previously unseen pit.

596
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,200
Yeah.

597
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Previously mentioned, but totally unseen.

598
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Previously mentioned, but not previously shown.

599
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Yeah.

600
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,200
Deus ex pit.

601
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Yeah.

602
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,200
The god pit.

603
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:50,600
And he like goes upstairs and they introduce us to Sword Deck by first showing us a room

604
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,280
of people who have been butt sexed to death and they have very like bloody butts.

605
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920
And I was like, oh, I bet they got humped to death.

606
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,000
And then we go into the next room.

607
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,400
It's like I saw a bunch of blood butts followed by a sword dick in that like I did not make

608
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,400
a logical connection between the two.

609
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,280
You guys just saw a bunch of bloody butts.

610
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,760
There's so much weird shit at this point.

611
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,080
But you know what?

612
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,080
You're right.

613
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Check off Sword Dick.

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,560
If you see a bloody butt in scene one, there's gotta be a sword dick in scene three.

615
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Those are narrative bloody butts.

616
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Yeah.

617
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,800
So you see the narrative bloody butts.

618
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,800
You asked to be on this podcast.

619
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,800
I'm just going to remind that.

620
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:36,440
And then you go into this next room and he's like sneaking up on this like Cenobite who's

621
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200
just sitting there watching porno or documentaries.

622
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Yeah, like the worst.

623
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Yeah.

624
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:50,360
And the people in the porn look like they're about to fall asleep, but in the reflection

625
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,680
of the TV, Sword Dick sees him sneaking up on him.

626
00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,360
So like when he goes to attack, counters and then they get into a scuffle and like sword

627
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,480
also screams before attacking him, which is not the best technique when sneaking up on

628
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,480
someone.

629
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Yeah.

630
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840
He's had a rough time and it's not the best.

631
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,520
And then, you know, eventually Cage manages to cut his throat and like sword dicks just

632
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,520
bleeds.

633
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,520
So much blood.

634
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,760
Here's the one joke I wrote for this bit.

635
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Oh, you wrote a joke?

636
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Yeah.

637
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,480
Sword Dick like goes to tackle him and gets hoisted on his own.

638
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Oh, that's so good.

639
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Thank you.

640
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,480
Don't encourage it.

641
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,480
Someone appreciates my ether.

642
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:42,240
So he like bleeds out all over Cage's face and like in his mouth and it's getting wild.

643
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Just because we want Cage to have that bloody face, you know.

644
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Such a good bloody face.

645
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,280
And then after he kills the second guy, Red takes a pull from the mason jar of what I

646
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,280
assume is a badass.

647
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,320
Not even a pull, he gets like a finger touch of it.

648
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,320
And just like has.

649
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,080
And then we see the Raiders of the Lost Ark face melting.

650
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280
It's extremely high grade LSD.

651
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,560
They said this would turn the monster guys, right?

652
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,920
They said this would turn those guys into being weird chain demon things.

653
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,280
But it's weird because like didn't they give them this mason jar at the Winnebago scene

654
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,320
also?

655
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920
So do they just keep giving them bad LSD?

656
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,920
I think so.

657
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320
Well, you know, now we just like bad LSD.

658
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,440
We like having shitty trips.

659
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:34,400
So, yeah, he has a face melted experience on some really shitty LSD.

660
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,800
More cartoons.

661
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800
More cartoon scenes.

662
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,800
The last of the cartoons.

663
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,800
Yeah.

664
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,800
Kills one more dude.

665
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,800
I don't think we need to keep focusing so much on the logistics of this dude he kills.

666
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,760
I do want to say this is the leader of the Cenobites who he shoots with the crossbow

667
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,760
through the back of the neck.

668
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Oh, yeah.

669
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,760
And then dude just pulls.

670
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,760
That is pretty cool.

671
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,160
He just shoots through the front and then like just stands there and bleeds for a minute

672
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160
and then they have a fight.

673
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,160
It was pretty good.

674
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,160
This is the axe.

675
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,160
This is the axe fight.

676
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Yeah.

677
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Where he like gets to use his cool axe that everybody likes the design of and the functionality

678
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,160
of.

679
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,280
I mean, there's only one fight scene in this movie really worth talking about before we

680
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,920
get to the chainsaw fight.

681
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,520
Long saw fight.

682
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Sammy's got it.

683
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,200
But before we get to that, there's the slack job guy who's like waxing the car.

684
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Oh, yeah.

685
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,800
And then out of nowhere, the axis flies and just catches him in the head and he dies.

686
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Yeah, they don't care.

687
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,800
A fantastic death.

688
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:39,720
No, like obviously the attacking the Cenobites required more attention and more film.

689
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Like killing normal, stupid human cultists.

690
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Pretty quick.

691
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,800
Yeah, that's trash mobs.

692
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560
And so you can just do those quick one offs.

693
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,400
So the only thing that we kind of skipped over in that is the chemist, the drug, the

694
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,400
chemist.

695
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Yeah.

696
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Oh, but with the tigers, right?

697
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,400
There's a random tiger in the film.

698
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Yeah, that's fine.

699
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,400
We can take that.

700
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,400
It's the only person who doesn't kill in the whole movie though.

701
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Yeah, it's true.

702
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,080
But the only fun part about that scene is the script was originally the chemist had

703
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760
a lizard like an iguana.

704
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,840
And when the actor got to set that day, the director was like, Lizzie is a tiger now.

705
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840
I guess like what?

706
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,840
There's a tiger on set.

707
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Awesome.

708
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,840
That's pretty cool.

709
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,840
Just a small rewrite.

710
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280
That seems like that wouldn't have been the easier thing to acquire.

711
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,800
Yeah, so guy gets the axe in the head.

712
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Yeah, axe head to slack jaw.

713
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,200
I like that he didn't kill that girl though.

714
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
I was like, that makes me respect you.

715
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,120
That's right.

716
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Like, he knows she's a victim here.

717
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Yeah, Lucy.

718
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,960
Yeah, she was a victim.

719
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,160
He kills meth foreman by stuff, stuffing the axe in his mouth.

720
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Oh yeah.

721
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Yeah, the back.

722
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,160
That was a good one.

723
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Yeah, that was pretty gruesome.

724
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,640
When I did my first watch this, I wrote my notes check off chainsaw because the first

725
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720
scene is Nick cage chopping down a tree.

726
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,400
I'm like, that chainsaw is going to come in handy later.

727
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Doesn't it's another chainsaw.

728
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,400
He just comes across.

729
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,400
Oh yeah.

730
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400
It was not a practical weapon.

731
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,680
As soon as he picked it up, I was like, how is like it takes a minute to turn those on,

732
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,680
you know, and it was a problem.

733
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120
This is not a good idea.

734
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Use your eyes.

735
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800
The other guy has a chainsaw that's three times as long.

736
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,800
It starts immediately.

737
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Wow.

738
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:33,200
It's the opposite of the scene in the beginning where we saw that old man holding hanging

739
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,200
brain.

740
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,160
My parents have his and hers chainsaws.

741
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Oh my God.

742
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,160
Incredible.

743
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Yeah, I know.

744
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Yeah, so there's a chainsaw fight, which was pretty bad.

745
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440
So bad.

746
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Another major highlight of the.

747
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,080
And it's all kind of downhill after that.

748
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Yeah.

749
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:55,800
The visuals of Jeremiah's church is kind of cool, but he squeezes Jeremiah's head to death

750
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280
and Jeremiah says, I'll blow you, man.

751
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280
I'll fucking suck your dick.

752
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,480
And then he smushes his head with his bare hands like, fuck you.

753
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440
You should bow to me.

754
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,640
And then Nick Cage says, oh, God, now.

755
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,640
Yeah, yeah, like super metal voice.

756
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,280
But yeah, so crush is a Jeremiah's fontanelle never sealed up, apparently, because apparently

757
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,840
soft head just like squishes good.

758
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,600
And then Nick Cage burns down the church, gets in his car.

759
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,880
I loved how crazy he looked at the end.

760
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,880
That was awesome.

761
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,800
He starts having weird visions.

762
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,560
I mean, we we did establish earlier that we never saw the body.

763
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,560
We saw a body.

764
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,960
It was just waiting for him in the car.

765
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,960
He was in the car the whole time.

766
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,960
That's right.

767
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,960
She was in the car.

768
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
The whole time she was waiting in the passenger seat.

769
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Oh, how embarrassing that he went on that murder spree.

770
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,280
I hear white snake tapes.

771
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,280
Let's go.

772
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,760
I just love that scene.

773
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,680
I was watching that scene again last night and he's just slow.

774
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,720
Turn to Mandy head covered in blood, just that smile.

775
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:05,760
And I'm like, that's amazing.

776
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760
It's a great moment.

777
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,760
Oh, he's fucking lost it.

778
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,760
So good.

779
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,760
Yeah, so that's Mandy.

780
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Yeah.

781
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,760
Pretty brief visually, like visually astounding.

782
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,080
This is a music video disguising itself as a feature film.

783
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Yeah.

784
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,880
I mean, I think we said Nick Cage barely speaks in this film.

785
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Yeah.

786
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,320
I thought it would have been interesting just to do quotes for this movie from other people

787
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,920
reacting to his silence.

788
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Yeah, there you go.

789
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,880
Like the chemist's whole scene because he just talks and Nick doesn't say anything.

790
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Yeah.

791
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,400
And he just keeps continuing it.

792
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Everything was very strong shots, very tight closeups.

793
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,520
If it's a close up, it's a tight close up.

794
00:35:53,520 --> 00:36:00,240
The colors, the filters are like just incredibly saturated.

795
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,560
The set design, like I loved their house.

796
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,120
All the times that it was like an actual alien landscape.

797
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Yeah, it looks like he's going into hell for like a lot of the second half.

798
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,600
It's like he was going into like more cavernous, like scary areas.

799
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Like it almost feels like a like a Dario Argento film for a lot of the second half, like just

800
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,720
like more spooky tunnels and things I'm driving down or now I'm climbing into a pit.

801
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,880
Like who even cares what the plot is?

802
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,920
He's going this direction now.

803
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Like you have a very clear sense of the path, even if you didn't have a clear sense of the

804
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,240
why.

805
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,240
Plots irrelevant.

806
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,720
This movie looks insane.

807
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,680
It does look insane.

808
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,520
I mean, the plot isn't horrendously relevant.

809
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,520
It's not untrue.

810
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,760
I mean, a revenge story doesn't have to have a ton of depth to it.

811
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,760
Right.

812
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,240
Like it's going on the emotion like you really like they're really in it.

813
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,000
They really feel it, even if it's like not complicated.

814
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
It's straightforward.

815
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,920
I feel like most of what I felt was like yucky and disgust personally.

816
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Well, I don't think it's supposed to make you feel like butterflies.

817
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,680
So I think you walked away with the right take on that.

818
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Definitely.

819
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,080
It does have like a very gas station bathroom kind of vibe.

820
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,400
Yeah, they accomplished their goal of making me feel bad.

821
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,400
Yeah.

822
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Yeah.

823
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,400
Gas station.

824
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,400
Gas station.

825
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,560
It would be for real matchstick men cage would not have been able to handle the environments.

826
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Not a chance.

827
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,560
All right.

828
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,760
So Nick, what's your quote for this one?

829
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:51,600
So my quote was like at the very beginning when Nick Cage comes home to Mandy and he

830
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,360
tells it like he knocks on the door, like opens it and then just says, knock, knock.

831
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,360
Who's there?

832
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Erica Strada.

833
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,360
Erica Strada who?

834
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,360
Erica Strada from chips.

835
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,360
It's great.

836
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,360
It's not even a joke.

837
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,360
I think it's the first dialogue in the entire film, too.

838
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,360
I think that's the first thing anyone says.

839
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is.

840
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:22,440
When I was in college, I had this friend whose kid would like come up with jokes and like

841
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,440
he would tell me them.

842
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,200
It's like, why did the monkey fall out of the tree?

843
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Because it was dead.

844
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,760
It's like, that's not a joke, but you're like four.

845
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,240
So I'll let it slide.

846
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:40,400
You don't understand humor yet, but I love a good non joke presented as a joke.

847
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,920
I mean, because it's this podcast for you, but it makes me happy.

848
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Sammy, did you have a particular quote from this movie?

849
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,720
Yeah, I think I was caught off guard by so much of the dialogue.

850
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:58,920
But the one that like surprised me the most was when Nick Cage read said, you are a vicious

851
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,920
snowflake.

852
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:06,640
You might as well say that, I don't know.

853
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,640
Mine was from the first bed scene of their Mandy and Reds where they're talking about

854
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,640
their favorite planets.

855
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,640
And he says, is this Saturn?

856
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,680
And she's like, oh, that's the first one we discovered, blah, blah, blah.

857
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,560
I changed my mind.

858
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,560
I like Galactus.

859
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Galactus isn't a planet.

860
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Yeah, but he eats planets.

861
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:30,360
That's it.

862
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,120
I have no quote from this movie.

863
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Those are all the quotes.

864
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Those are all the lines that we've lived.

865
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120
That's the feeling I got the whole way through.

866
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Written in script, shot in one take.

867
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Yeah, that would be amazing.

868
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Well, actually, a lot of these were single.

869
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,120
A lot of these were single takes, according to the.

870
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Because the director kind of wanted that rough.

871
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Yeah.

872
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,120
Yeah.

873
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Field.

874
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,120
Well, he got.

875
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,120
I think he was like, oh, I'm going to do this.

876
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,120
I'm going to do this.

877
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,120
I'm going to do this.

878
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,120
I'm going to do this.

879
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,120
I'm going to do this.

880
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,120
I'm going to do this.

881
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,120
I'm going to do this.

882
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,120
I'm going to do this.

883
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160
I think he got good performances out of everyone.

884
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,160
Oh, yeah.

885
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
So I had no complaints about performance in general.

886
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200
Maybe his performance especially was really good, I feel like.

887
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Like whatever she was doing, she was doing it well, you know.

888
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Yeah, they were all committed for sure.

889
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,960
I loved her big buggy eyes.

890
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,760
She has the craziest eyes.

891
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,520
And I looked at the actress and she does have kind of big buggy eyes in general, but like

892
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,520
they're the LSD.

893
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,600
They managed to play those up so much like in her features.

894
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Yeah, those are black holes.

895
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,400
It's like crazy.

896
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,960
The only fun fact I really have from this one is that the primary reason that Cage did

897
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,800
this movie is because he and Elijah Wood on the set of The Trust, we're talking about

898
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,800
horror flicks and Elijah Wood's Spectrevision is producing different horror flicks.

899
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,740
And he was like, I've got this director and I think you might really like this script.

900
00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:46,360
And then that was the start of it all.

901
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,000
So thanks, The Trust.

902
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Well, one of the reasons like this director took almost 10 years to make a second film

903
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640
was he was like, I like Spectrevision.

904
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,080
They let me they trust me.

905
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,080
They let me do what I want.

906
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,400
And I don't want to like shop around to.

907
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Places that are going to make me change.

908
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Makes sense.

909
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:14,320
OK, so before we leave this movie behind, Venn diagram, good cage, bad movie, bad movie,

910
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,920
good cage, good, bad, bad, good, bad, good, good, bad, good.

911
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,920
I'm all in.

912
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,920
This is a good cage and a good movie.

913
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,600
I'm with Nick, good cage, good movie.

914
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Alex, I'm a little on the line.

915
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,880
Definitely good cage movie itself.

916
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,360
I'll say good movie at the end of the day.

917
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,360
I do enjoy it.

918
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,800
There's sections that annoy me, but I'll say good movie.

919
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,200
Good cage, bad movie.

920
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,280
I can't believe you guys all like it.

921
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,280
No, I'm with you, Sammy.

922
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,280
I think this is a bad movie.

923
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,280
I'm glad none of your roots count.

924
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,280
That's true.

925
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,280
We were unimportant on this side.

926
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,040
So following that masterpiece, let's talk about the masterpiece that is Prisoners of

927
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,720
the Ghostland from twenty twenty one is.

928
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,720
Weird.

929
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,720
No, you're done.

930
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,720
Good summary.

931
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,960
No, Nick.

932
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Nicholas Cage is put in a bomb suit and forced and forced to go find Colonel Sanders is quote

933
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:23,440
unquote grand in the post apocalyptic wastelands of samurai cowboy world.

934
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Maybe the future.

935
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,600
It's like they decided to remake Mad Max Fury Road, except for instead of being feminist,

936
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,680
it was incredibly sexist, which that's kind of cool.

937
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Yes.

938
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Yes.

939
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,480
It's just like escape from L.A. but Japanese.

940
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,720
I mean, how did I put it?

941
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:46,240
I was like if like if Tim Burton wanted to make Mad Max Fury Road is how I describe it.

942
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,160
Like there's a lot of cool sets.

943
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,720
It is bright and color.

944
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:54,320
Yeah, it's like Mad Max with like Western films and samurai films all stacked on top

945
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,360
of each other, basically.

946
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Which is cool idea.

947
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,400
But there's no there's very little crossover.

948
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,400
It's like every character is either a cowboy or like a samurai or like a Japanese sex worker.

949
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,800
Nobody is you're forgetting Ratman and Ratman.

950
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,640
He's a Mad Max guy, though.

951
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,280
Nobody is nobody is.

952
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,080
We'll get into the Mad Max cowboy and samurai or like both a Mad Max guy and a cowboy or

953
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
something.

954
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,400
They're all like one of three things.

955
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,400
Yep.

956
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,400
So Nick Cage plays hero.

957
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:34,840
And at the start of this film goes in is robbing a bank in samurai town with his smoky eyed

958
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,840
companion.

959
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,320
So what the fuck is up with that guy's eyes?

960
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:45,800
And like bust in, you know, get on the ground, get on the ground like and the dumbest kid

961
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,440
we've seen yet in a cage.

962
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Oh, yeah, this is bad kid.

963
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,480
This is bad.

964
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,720
It's like just looking at a gumball machine full of like rubber super balls and turns

965
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:02,400
to the turns to psycho and offers him a delicious gumball.

966
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,020
And then the movie starts.

967
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:08,800
And then some years later, Nick Cage is in prison in underwear.

968
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,760
He's got that like samurai underwear.

969
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,760
That's like.

970
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,200
So before that, though, we see geisha looking females.

971
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,520
Are those Japanese sex workers?

972
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,520
Yes.

973
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,520
OK.

974
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,520
You covered it.

975
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Thank you.

976
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Like, just to be clear for the audience at home, escaping, escaping from samurai town

977
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960
and getting in a car and driving off.

978
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,280
Let's see, so they escape and then yes.

979
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:41,360
So now we're pulling Nick Cage out of prison and we're going to send him to go retrieve

980
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,880
the girls who have left, specifically the granddaughter of the governor, who's that

981
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,880
guy from all those horror movies, House of a Thousand Corpses and like Saw and stuff.

982
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,880
Help me.

983
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,880
What's his name?

984
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,880
Bill Moseley.

985
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,880
Yes, he was great.

986
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,880
I mean, terrible, but great.

987
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,880
Yes.

988
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:00,880
Yeah.

989
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,320
Bill Moseley is Colonel Sanders and they strap Nick Cage.

990
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Well, Nick Cage comes out firstly in like a diaper and all the all the geishas are like,

991
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,960
show us your balls.

992
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,840
There's that one that's doing like a super accurate drawing of him.

993
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,920
And then like when he takes off the diaper, she like erases the diaper and like starts

994
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,720
redrawing and everything super intense.

995
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,840
I can't believe they didn't show the drawing.

996
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,160
That's all Josie and I want.

997
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,200
They were like, just show it what what's Nick?

998
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Look like the door cage won't show his penis even in drawing form.

999
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Terrible.

1000
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,200
Damn shame.

1001
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,200
This is a mistake for everyone.

1002
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,560
You got to pay an extra two mil for the dog.

1003
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:47,880
But they stood him up in like a leather like gimp suit that has little tiny bombs attached

1004
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:54,720
to which looks like he was in a hot place wearing a leather jumpsuit with no underwear.

1005
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,720
Oh, God.

1006
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:00,840
And he's not allowed to take it off for three days or three to five days.

1007
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320
The Colonel was just like, I have a penchant for leather.

1008
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,880
Oh no, it's supposed to be three days.

1009
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,800
He had three days to find what he needed.

1010
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,360
Once he found it, he would get two more days.

1011
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,360
Didn't he have time to bring it back?

1012
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,280
Even though it only took him half a day to find it.

1013
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,800
But most noteworthy though, the gimp suit has it has bombs all over it, but most noteworthy

1014
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,280
it has bombs on the testicles.

1015
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:32,760
And if he a bomb each arm and then bombs on the neck and then bombs in case he tries to

1016
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,760
take advantage of a woman.

1017
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,760
Spoke as he does.

1018
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,760
He busts in that.

1019
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,760
Yeah.

1020
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,600
And he so they stood him up.

1021
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,960
And so he has three days to go retrieve the girl for the governor.

1022
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,800
You give him a car, but then he's like, I'm going to take a bike because I'm different.

1023
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,800
I don't know.

1024
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,800
Like why?

1025
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:58,480
He like whips like a machete, like jumps, jumps on a bicycle.

1026
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,840
He's like.

1027
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
I want like with a basket.

1028
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:09,400
I want to know what the rules of this world are, because they exist in what I'm assuming

1029
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,320
is a tourist attraction.

1030
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:18,400
They're living in samurai town where there are cowboys and the bank they tried to rob.

1031
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,320
Yeah, I think you're trying to like put too much of reality on it.

1032
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,680
See, but OK, but when we have the flashback to when he like the bank robbery, there are

1033
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,680
normal cops.

1034
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,680
Yeah.

1035
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,400
And the bank looks like totally futuristic and the banks totally futuristic.

1036
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440
But when like when he runs out of the bank, there are normal cops.

1037
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,360
And now the law is samurai's and cowboys.

1038
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,360
That's a good point.

1039
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:44,560
But when like he does the bank robbery, it's also like it still has like the false front

1040
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,960
buildings and things like that.

1041
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Yeah, that's like the external.

1042
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Swinging doors and all that kind of shit.

1043
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,320
We haven't had that inciting incident of the nuclear waste spill to change everything around,

1044
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,040
because once the nuclear waste is you're forced to become a samurai or cowboy.

1045
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,040
Yeah, well, that's it.

1046
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,600
The town's probably cut off because of all the ghosts out there.

1047
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,480
Also, did they say samurai town?

1048
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Did they say it at the beginning or was it not until the last line of the movie where

1049
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,160
they're like, wow, samurai town?

1050
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,560
I was like, that's the name of this fucking.

1051
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,760
Just the last.

1052
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,840
It's so stupid.

1053
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Can you imagine having to sit through the entire movie with the knowledge

1054
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,240
that the place is called samurai town?

1055
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,880
So it's worse like.

1056
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,720
OK, that's funny, because my roommate watched it with me and she said,

1057
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:32,680
what is the town called?

1058
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,800
And I said, I think it's called Cowboy Town, but I can't remember.

1059
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,400
You were this close.

1060
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Yeah.

1061
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Or like one one half of the block is Cowboy Town, the other samurai town.

1062
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Well, it's officially known as Sam.

1063
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,560
OK. But then so but you pointed out like, OK, this, you know,

1064
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,760
after all the like toxic waste bill, but they have a brand new Toyota.

1065
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:59,560
Just a totally ordinary car. Yeah.

1066
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Yeah. The white guy just rocks up and he's got money.

1067
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,560
He's got a car. He's good.

1068
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,040
It's not even clear what country we're in.

1069
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,720
And then there's a little song about how much they love the governor.

1070
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:14,960
Governor governor governor.

1071
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,680
Oh, the governor, a role that makes complete sense.

1072
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,360
There was the wall of talking women had.

1073
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Oh, that was weird.

1074
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,040
I was like they were going in and out of vaginas or was that just me?

1075
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,040
I mean, it sure did look like that. OK.

1076
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,280
And there's also Yasujiro

1077
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,160
with the governor's like right hand samurai whose name Yasujiro,

1078
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,120
who is constantly like, oh, my God, yes, it was so hot.

1079
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,240
He was. And he's constantly like, whinily shouting for him.

1080
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:50,080
He's like, yes, it's a yes.

1081
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,880
I was like, get rid of everybody else.

1082
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,240
I want to watch a movie about him.

1083
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,200
So the governor wants Nick Cage to go find his granddaughter

1084
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,920
for totally not sex reasons, totally not sex reasons.

1085
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,080
And then like, yeah, Nick Cage said, I see the folks like,

1086
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,920
I'd see why you want her back.

1087
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,920
And then one of the samurais like, what did you say?

1088
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,360
And then everyone tries to kill Nick Cage and then Yasujiro

1089
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,840
just starts killing everyone else.

1090
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Like, what is the hierarchy of this government?

1091
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,600
They all love the governor, but they're willing to like.

1092
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Yeah, it's wild west samurais. Yeah.

1093
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,360
Yes. A sword sword is the equivalent of a gun, too, in this world, I guess.

1094
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:29,920
All right. So he bikes out of there.

1095
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,840
Yeah, I should hear a rock.

1096
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,480
Something that gives and Nick Cage gets off his tricycle or bicycle.

1097
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,360
And Yasujiro, assumably bikes away.

1098
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,760
Yeah, right.

1099
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,360
That was my favorite part, right?

1100
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,760
So when that scene happens, I because they have a little like

1101
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,520
Yashiro saves Nick Cage from the other samurai

1102
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,880
and they kind of give each other a knowing smile.

1103
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,640
So I assume Nick Cage going off on the bike and Yasujiro rocking up was like, cool.

1104
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,760
Now we're going to come up with a plan.

1105
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Now, Yasujiro is just like, get in the car and he just Nick.

1106
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:00,720
He drives off.

1107
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,720
Yasujiro, you spent a whole film thinking is going to have like a redemption arc,

1108
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,400
like because you learn kind of more backstory that he's.

1109
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,040
And then Nick Cage just kills him.

1110
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,000
Yeah. And you learn he's like conflicted and doesn't want to work for the governor

1111
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,480
because his like sister is like a prisoner and all this stuff.

1112
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,320
And yeah, he doesn't ever.

1113
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,520
Yeah, he doesn't ever come around.

1114
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Yeah. And at the end, yeah, they have they have a fight,

1115
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,160
which is a great fight.

1116
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,040
I thought I thought fighting in general in this movie, I thought was pretty fun.

1117
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,840
But yeah, I thought it was well choreographed.

1118
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,520
There's a great way he's fighting Yasujiro, too.

1119
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,240
There's a great bit of like every time that they're fighting,

1120
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,000
they're having a sword fight every time one of them has a backswing,

1121
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,760
like several extras like run up to attack them from behind and like get caught

1122
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,480
in like the crossfire of like those like each of them.

1123
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,320
They swing their sword.

1124
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
They're killing like five other people while trying to fight each other,

1125
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,920
which is very funny.

1126
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,480
It's like there's one like 40 guys dies like collateral damage of their fight.

1127
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,960
I do love the excessive amount of squibs and like just exploding blood in people.

1128
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,320
Yes. But never out of where they're struck,

1129
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,000
because there's like one where you're like or or somebody gets like stabbed

1130
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,400
in the neck and there's just this prolonged guys or blood

1131
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,560
that clearly comes out of the guy's chest.

1132
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,920
I did like the guy who gets his head put into a lantern

1133
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,160
and then the lantern just fills with blood.

1134
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,680
Oh, that's a good one.

1135
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Yeah, this director definitely knows how to film.

1136
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,960
Yes. Yes.

1137
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,080
All right. I have a nice story, too, because this film was originally

1138
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,120
supposed to be filmed in Mexico.

1139
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,560
But the director had suffered a heart attack.

1140
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,000
So Nick Cage had the whole production moved to Japan

1141
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,280
to make it easier on the director.

1142
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,440
Oh, that's interesting.

1143
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,600
I have another fun fact.

1144
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960
Did you guys know that Nicholas Cage's past three wives

1145
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,720
have all been Asian women who are like 20 years younger than him?

1146
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,880
Isn't that funny?

1147
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:47,560
But you know what?

1148
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,000
They're still all older than any of Leonardo DiCaprio.

1149
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Also true. Oh, my God.

1150
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960
They've got a solid 20 years on anybody to catch.

1151
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,600
You guys catch that this movie has like like seven or eight

1152
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,320
production studios made it a lot of these movies like a Louisiana

1153
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,040
RLJP, Patriot Pictures, Untitled Entertainment.

1154
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Booze, booze, booze, bang, bang. Yeah.

1155
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,720
Saturn films and XYZ films all came together to make this.

1156
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:21,200
I was like, that's like, you're not even going to get a good film

1157
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,760
with that many studios or.

1158
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,200
What? Yeah.

1159
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Saturn is Nick Cage's production company.

1160
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,120
And then XYZ films actually produced both of these movies

1161
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200
that were I guess it makes sense that Saturn is his favorite planet.

1162
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Then is it going to change his production studio to Galactus Entertainment?

1163
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Galactus. No, that's trademarked.

1164
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,800
True. RLJP also produced

1165
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,160
and did a bunch of distribution on a lot of his other things they did.

1166
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,440
Mandy included, I'm pretty sure.

1167
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Yeah, they did Rage, Pay the Ghost, Dog Eat Dog,

1168
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Mandy, Color Out of Space, Prisoners of the Ghostland

1169
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,360
and Sympathy for the Devil.

1170
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,840
OK, yeah, he goes to the ghost land, I guess.

1171
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,920
So I just keep going.

1172
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Yeah, drives down the freeway, runs into.

1173
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,560
A bus full of samurai mutants.

1174
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,360
Yes. Yeah, accurate.

1175
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,240
And when one Bernie boy

1176
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,480
and wakes up like, well, they're all prisoners of the.

1177
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,840
Ghostland prison fatigues.

1178
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,040
They are definitely well, except for the samurai.

1179
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,920
There were also the samurai.

1180
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,920
You're right. Yeah, it was interesting because it's like full traditional samurai

1181
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,960
masks and then like stripey outfit prisoners

1182
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,880
who like walked like spiders and one Bernie guy and one Bernie guy

1183
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,000
with awesome shades with aviators.

1184
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200
He did have six shades.

1185
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160
Yes, there's people, there's people

1186
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,920
pouring toilet paper across things.

1187
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,360
Everybody's doing basically anything crazy you can imagine.

1188
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,760
There's people being built into mannequins.

1189
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
They're having like mannequin faces put over their faces.

1190
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,080
There's people who have a giant rope attached to a big clock tower

1191
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,560
and they're trying to pull back the second hand.

1192
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,680
OK, I love that whole thing.

1193
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,280
They're going, stop the time from moving.

1194
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,000
They're all like, if I could hold back.

1195
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,480
So this is the clock tower scene.

1196
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,560
OK, so they hadn't mentioned anything about like

1197
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,960
nuclear waste at this point, but like the clock tower scene.

1198
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,720
Like, oh, all right.

1199
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:22,720
15 minutes to midnight.

1200
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:23,640
All right.

1201
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,440
I don't think this director understands what a meta is for, but all right.

1202
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,560
We're getting there.

1203
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,840
So someone gets my jokes, Nick.

1204
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,000
I got it. I didn't like it.

1205
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,080
I would be that annoying guy who keeps reading Weathering Heights.

1206
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,280
It's like who cares, but it's a great story.

1207
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,640
OK, I mean, you know,

1208
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,040
you know, then they're dragging around

1209
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,840
and like a big moving house on wheels, sort of a thing dragging around town.

1210
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,320
He's reading to everyone.

1211
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,720
Here's where this society completely fails.

1212
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
You have the rat rat people who have semi trucks

1213
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,040
that apparently work, though they never go anywhere.

1214
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
And literally, they never use those fucking things.

1215
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,440
I love them to turn the lights on.

1216
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,320
He explained it.

1217
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,520
He said like any engine turning on would bring the demons.

1218
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,120
So that's why they couldn't.

1219
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,920
So he scavenged and like fixed things and like saved all the gas.

1220
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,600
But they couldn't use them.

1221
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,760
I was just going to say.

1222
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,640
I mean, I was just going to say you have big heavy machines,

1223
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,720
yet you have 20 guys literally holding the clock

1224
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,640
when you could have just tied that to one of those trucks.

1225
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,480
All right. That's a good point.

1226
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,720
I don't think they're thinking about weight at this point.

1227
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,520
Quit trying to take their good union jobs.

1228
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,320
Piece of shit scab.

1229
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,960
But he finds Bernice in one of the mannequin people.

1230
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,600
I like how he goes through two actual mannequins

1231
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,920
before he starts deciding to look at people who are clearly like people.

1232
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,520
He's a long day.

1233
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,840
And he's also very sensitive about it's like Slash maintains these mannequins.

1234
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,720
He's got like a top hat and he's like, he's like,

1235
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,880
it's like he gets like mad any time that the cage messes with them.

1236
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,280
I do love the double.

1237
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,480
They tried to do a double fake out where he's going through.

1238
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,360
And clearly none of these people are Bernice.

1239
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Then you see one that has like her hair.

1240
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,520
He takes it off.

1241
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,480
Yeah. And then he like takes off the mask and it's her like double.

1242
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,680
Well, the mannequin thing is like therapy.

1243
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,760
So maybe she just didn't want to lose sight of her identity.

1244
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,600
And so she's like, can I be a mannequin that also just looks like?

1245
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,640
Well, what did they say?

1246
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,480
She was cursed or they would find her.

1247
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,560
They just possessed and she can't leave while the spirit is possessing her.

1248
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,960
And she was then but then the spirit went into her friend instead.

1249
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,040
Who replaced her, I guess.

1250
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,920
And you have problems with Mandy's story.

1251
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,560
Yeah, this movie is a little all over the place.

1252
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,960
This one at least has dialogue.

1253
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,280
This movie felt to me like a like a fucked up fairy tale in a way.

1254
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,760
And Mandy felt more like a drug.

1255
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,560
Yes, that's a fair comparison.

1256
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,240
There's a fair description of both.

1257
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Like I didn't I didn't like the fairy tale.

1258
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,160
But I do have to get this movie props on one thing

1259
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:15,240
because the next scene when he's like dragging Bernice back down the highway

1260
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,440
and getting all the mannequin stuff off her

1261
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,240
and they do a very sensual pouring water into her mouth.

1262
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,680
Also, she's played by he just keeps shouting, take it off, take it off, take it off.

1263
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Sophia Botella, whose star has fallen greatly.

1264
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,560
And this is what she's in now.

1265
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,040
Also, give up and notice

1266
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,760
that like she's like none of the main cast is Asian,

1267
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,120
but all of the like extras are Asian, which doesn't feel great.

1268
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,360
You know, a Japanese director.

1269
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,600
I think she was in.

1270
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,440
I feel like she's meant to be Japanese in the movie.

1271
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,400
That's what I felt. And she's not.

1272
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,360
When the production was moved to Japan, the governor and Beatrice got recast

1273
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,160
because the original actors didn't want to or couldn't.

1274
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,640
Oh, oh, interesting. Yeah.

1275
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,760
But this is where we get the great scene of Nick Cage getting horny

1276
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:14,040
and having his left testicles get blown up.

1277
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,480
You know, when you're force feeding a woman water, it's just hot.

1278
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,240
Can't help it.

1279
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,120
You can't help but get your balls blown off.

1280
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,640
You've heard of blue balls, but now we have exploding testicles.

1281
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Boom balls. Thank you.

1282
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Boom balls.

1283
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,360
Got his left testicle blown off and then like holds it in his hand.

1284
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,680
Says something in Japanese and passes out.

1285
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,880
I really was hoping that what he said in Japanese was just testicle,

1286
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,960
but it wasn't so.

1287
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,840
And then the movie ends.

1288
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,040
And yeah, the end.

1289
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Good job.

1290
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,720
So much for that.

1291
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,240
That's when we see the shoot out with him in Psycho. Yes.

1292
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,680
That's when we have the flashback.

1293
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:56,560
Oh, that's right. Yeah.

1294
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,760
He has his dream flashback.

1295
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,640
And we find out that Psycho's aptly named.

1296
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,960
Yeah. And Bernice was a child who got caught in the crossfire

1297
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,320
when he was like running from the cops.

1298
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,280
So he's and her mother.

1299
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,880
And we found out that he was innocent.

1300
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,520
Yeah. He didn't kill those people.

1301
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,120
He was, in fact, the hero.

1302
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Yeah. And it saved that child. Right.

1303
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,520
But that's how she got that scar, which is my favorite quote from this one.

1304
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,280
And how she also became a felon to sex slavery. Right.

1305
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,320
That's part of it, too.

1306
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,920
But yes, he's undressing her before the testicle explodes.

1307
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,920
He says, quite a scar you got there.

1308
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,000
You get that roller skating.

1309
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,000
Ooh.

1310
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,800
He's a little bit wacky.

1311
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,240
This one. Oh, man.

1312
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,280
OK, so at this point, like so for him to get the extra two days

1313
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,000
on his like wrist bomb thing, she has to say her name.

1314
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,360
So while he's passed out, she like says her name into the thing

1315
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,920
and screams and it finally gives him the extra two days.

1316
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,120
Specifically, say like she has to say her name into his wrist.

1317
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:56,960
Wristband.

1318
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,960
That has like a voice like recognition software.

1319
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Yes.

1320
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,120
And the voice thing has like it has like the governor

1321
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,760
like recorded on it, like, say your name, darling.

1322
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,960
If you're there, say your name. Say your name.

1323
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,360
Say your name. I hear you.

1324
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,360
I can't quite hear you.

1325
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,560
You better speak up a little.

1326
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,360
That's when the ghosts show up again.

1327
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,920
I like that you're presenting this like there's some degree of like

1328
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,760
continuity and this isn't like like the movie doesn't feel that way.

1329
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,160
It feels like it's very stream of consciousness.

1330
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,080
It's just like, and things are happening.

1331
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,160
Yeah, it doesn't even. I'm trying.

1332
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,160
You're doing your best shot.

1333
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,880
But that's when he gets he gets in a fight.

1334
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,640
And then to save Bernice, he pushes her away from Melty Boys,

1335
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,240
which sets off the arm bomb.

1336
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Oh, that's right.

1337
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Because he strikes a woman.

1338
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,320
Which doesn't do much.

1339
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,040
No.

1340
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,520
So it blows out his elbow.

1341
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Yeah.

1342
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,960
But it's like down here.

1343
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:51,680
And it doesn't.

1344
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,960
It's like he builds an army of darkness style robot arm to replace it later.

1345
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,840
So yeah. Yeah.

1346
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,960
Sweet mannequin.

1347
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,880
He does have a sweet mannequin hand.

1348
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,960
He passes out again after this explosion,

1349
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:08,200
where he dreams the history of the nuclear wasteland.

1350
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,040
Yes. Oh, through the like exposition.

1351
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Yeah. Was it a dream or was it another flashback?

1352
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,520
I couldn't tell. It was a dream because he's at.

1353
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,920
Yeah, because he left with Bernice

1354
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,960
when she was still in the mannequin stuff.

1355
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,680
And then him and Bernice are standing in front of the clock tower,

1356
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,080
hearing this explanation of characters that are actually there.

1357
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,480
And then they go back.

1358
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,000
It's a lot of back and forth that I couldn't follow.

1359
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,840
So maybe that happened.

1360
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,120
And then the ghosts turn out to be ex cons.

1361
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,280
And one of them is psycho. Yes.

1362
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,800
But they're still good friends.

1363
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,200
And psycho just kind of lets them go.

1364
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,080
It's a really heartwarming reunion.

1365
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,600
They go and take out the governor. Yep.

1366
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,320
Which is where we've had the fight with Yoshiguro.

1367
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,400
Yeah, that just happens.

1368
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,680
Like we don't have a lot that happens within that other than just blood.

1369
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:00,200
You know, the governor is like a real he gets broken down real quick.

1370
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Like as soon as all the women who have been subservient to him

1371
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,520
are just like, you're a limp dick.

1372
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,880
Yeah, they take all this money and run.

1373
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,760
I was along for the ride most of the whole time until the very end.

1374
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,040
When Bernice kills the governor

1375
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,560
and one of the people from the ghost land is like sees it and goes

1376
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,280
and like runs down the alley and turns a corner.

1377
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,720
It's like the governor's dead and she's back in the ghost land.

1378
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,080
Like what? Yeah.

1379
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,560
No, I think the ghost land is like really just around the corner.

1380
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,200
Literally just next door.

1381
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,120
When I was in college,

1382
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,320
the town my college was in had been a dry town.

1383
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,600
Here's a here's just the story.

1384
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,760
I've been a dry town forever.

1385
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,080
And only recently it started doing beer and wine sales.

1386
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,040
No liquor sales in this small town.

1387
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,880
But if you went to the edge of town

1388
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,600
and then just like around an S curve, so like you've traveled

1389
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,400
maybe half a mile from college campus,

1390
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,280
you go through the S curve and you're now in Independence, Oregon.

1391
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,960
And you can buy liquor in Independence and then just drive it back.

1392
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,160
So it literally is like kind of driving down to the 7-eleven,

1393
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,160
not the first 7-eleven to your house, like the second 7-eleven.

1394
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,680
And it's like that kind of feeling.

1395
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,240
It's like all the same bars, like full, I don't know, wild west town.

1396
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,600
Oregon. We got two things to talk about as far as I can tell.

1397
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Rat man and the minigun.

1398
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,600
Oh, God. Rat man. Awesome. Yes, he's fun.

1399
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,520
Girl with a minigun. Less awesome.

1400
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,000
Oh, Suzy. So, OK, that's very nice.

1401
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,160
They're coming back into Samurai Town to usurp the government.

1402
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,000
Yes. How could I forget the minigun?

1403
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,600
That's a giant Gatling gun. Yeah.

1404
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Yeah. She just runs across the street and there's like a minigun sitting

1405
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,360
in a fucking OK. So Barrow.

1406
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,920
So Mandy had Chekhov's pit.

1407
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,080
And no, this pit Machina,

1408
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,000
you know, this ex-pit, this ex-pit, and this one has this ex-minigun.

1409
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,400
Unestablished minigun that feet away from the crowd.

1410
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,840
That minigun has been bolted to the coffee shop for generations.

1411
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,240
If you didn't notice it, that's your fault.

1412
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,120
That is an establishment in this town.

1413
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,560
Samurai Town is known for their miniguns.

1414
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,440
Just turrets everywhere.

1415
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,640
God, yeah. How could I forget?

1416
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,840
And Rat Man speaks like he's got one of those voice boxes

1417
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,680
because he smoked too much.

1418
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,920
Yeah, he does have like a robot voice.

1419
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,920
I mean, yeah, Rat Man looks like he's right out of

1420
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Thunderdome.

1421
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Yeah, it's like if the cenobites were nice.

1422
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,360
So going to the whole thing where they can't drive the trucks

1423
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,480
because it'll attract the ghosts.

1424
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Once they make peace with the ghosts, they have this whole montage

1425
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,040
of getting the trucks ready for war and then just forget that happens.

1426
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,520
Yeah, because they don't need to go to war anymore, I guess.

1427
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,160
Yeah, I thought those were going to roll into samurai town

1428
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,120
and they don't do shit other than light up.

1429
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,360
Yeah, but then 15 minutes later, we find out they don't need to

1430
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,560
because they're already there because it's literally just outside.

1431
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,760
That's right. Yeah, they didn't have to go far.

1432
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,800
It's at least like a lot of times when they're doing weird

1433
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,680
kind of pointless stuff in this movie, it's kind of like, oh, I see.

1434
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,240
It's like for this goofy visual or for this kind of thing.

1435
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,640
But it's like there's nothing interesting about like a preparing to go

1436
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,880
attack montage.

1437
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,120
That's like a boring part of movies for the most part, I would say.

1438
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,000
Mandy does it kind of interesting when he makes the axe.

1439
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,040
But it's like watching them all like put these cars together.

1440
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,640
I thought was boring.

1441
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,000
And then it's like and then it also has no point.

1442
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:39,920
It's like, I don't know.

1443
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Anyway, it was because they were working together.

1444
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Yeah, teamwork to escape.

1445
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,600
Nightingale, the ghost land.

1446
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,760
Colts cooler if all those cars turned out to be like Autobots

1447
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,240
and they like just transformed and then they just fucking.

1448
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,640
It's just a new movie.

1449
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,240
It's just Ratman at the head.

1450
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Yeah. I did.

1451
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,000
Nobody would have cared about the minigun because why do they have

1452
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,440
fucking Decepticons and Autobots?

1453
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,080
If that had happened, none of us would have batted an eye.

1454
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,720
We would have been like, yeah, now there's robots like, yeah.

1455
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,400
We're like, uh, anything the film could have done to surprise us at that point.

1456
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,480
Would have been so normal.

1457
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,080
This is now a Gundam movie.

1458
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,640
OK. Yeah.

1459
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,240
All right. I think I do have the best quote for this film.

1460
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,080
Hi, fucking. Yeah.

1461
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,280
Hi, fucking. Yeah.

1462
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,400
And of course, like honorable mentions for testicle.

1463
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,760
Nick, did you have one?

1464
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,840
Yeah. Mine is the entire testicle line, though, because I'm a completionist.

1465
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,240
I don't I don't just run around screaming balls.

1466
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,600
God, this is highbrow.

1467
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,840
You don't get to the top 25 in Germany by just screaming balls.

1468
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,320
The cage is like getting everybody amped up.

1469
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,680
I got to set the scene for the people. Yeah.

1470
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:02,160
And he's like, oh, yeah, now here this ghost landers tomorrow.

1471
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,920
We're getting out of here.

1472
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,960
The crowds are like, it's impossible.

1473
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,960
Impossible. Ha.

1474
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:14,960
If you had told me three days ago that I'd be standing here with one arm and one testicle.

1475
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Trying to reason with you bitches.

1476
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,600
I would have said impossible, too.

1477
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,120
But I'm telling you, there's a way.

1478
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,800
It's like the Ashley Williams.

1479
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,640
Like, this is my boomstick.

1480
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,200
Yes, because we've got the Ashland's arm, too.

1481
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,400
Clearly, the clearly the filmmaker must like Army of Darkness at some level.

1482
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Very inspired. Yeah. Yeah.

1483
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,640
I think the only other good line was I am radioactive.

1484
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,920
Well, yeah, zero evidence.

1485
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,680
Must be must be radioactive.

1486
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:59,920
Where do people put a good cage, bad movie, bad movie, good cage, good, bad cage, good movie, bad, bad, good, good.

1487
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,720
Good. This is a good like little rap.

1488
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,960
Good kids, bad movie.

1489
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,960
Me, too. Good kids, bad movie.

1490
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,800
Sam, good kids, bad movie.

1491
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Great performances in both movies.

1492
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,720
How could I not say good kids, bad movie?

1493
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:17,080
But I will caveat with I do really enjoy this movie, even though it's really stupid.

1494
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,840
I found it very enjoyable.

1495
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,280
Oh, yeah.

1496
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,280
Although a good kid is just for screaming as he gets his ball blown off.

1497
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,920
Like, just that alone makes the whole thing worth it.

1498
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:28,520
All right. Oh, man.

1499
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:33,840
Wait, we didn't even talk about like in the fight later when he gets kicked in the balls and there's a pause.

1500
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:41,280
Oh, and he's thinking and then he's just like, oh, well, he and Yasujiro both hit each other.

1501
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,160
Yeah. All right.

1502
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,360
I think I'm the outlier here because this is the one like this is one of the few cage films from like

1503
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,360
all I see is just Nick Cage like hammock, like hamming it up poorly.

1504
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,480
I'm like, ah, this is this is a good cage.

1505
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:55,760
Well, I mean, he is a ham sandwich.

1506
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,720
That's for sure.

1507
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,800
But not in a good way, I feel.

1508
01:09:59,400 --> 01:09:59,840
That's fair.

1509
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,920
Well, I felt the context called for it

1510
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,640
because it's like, how are you supposed to give a good performance in this movie?

1511
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,200
I don't know. There's so much great Nick Cage around this time.

1512
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,360
Pig, Pig, Mandy, Joe, color from outer space.

1513
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,080
And that this is just like, oh, that's fair.

1514
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:23,840
I actually I'm probably not lying in saying that I think I like this movie better than Mandy.

1515
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,280
It's very OK.

1516
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,720
Yeah, you're with me. It's very unique.

1517
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,800
I got to give it that.

1518
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,080
It's like I haven't seen something else like it was fun.

1519
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,800
It was constantly keeps you like it was insane and stupid.

1520
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:41,040
I'm glad I watched Prisoners before I watched Mandy.

1521
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:44,600
Sammy, do you have an opinion as to which ones you're the better?

1522
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,560
I hated both of them.

1523
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,200
I think Mandy is technically better,

1524
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,040
but Prisoners has less things that yuck me out.

1525
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,840
So I think I liked Prisoners better.

1526
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,760
All right. Well, since no one else's opinions matter on this, Nick, Mandy, Mandy, Mandy's going forward.

1527
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,280
It is the better film.

1528
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,240
It is so much better. Even if I like it less, it's a better movie.

1529
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,240
It is. I agree. It's not for me, but it's better.

1530
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,440
It pulls you into the movie and like really just kind of like

1531
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,760
soaks you in everything and like like an acid giant bee.

1532
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,800
I did feel dirty afterward.

1533
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,400
Drugs you and kidnaps you right into the movie.

1534
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,760
For both these movies, I was very like mad at Alex while watching

1535
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,000
because he picked them.

1536
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,600
You're correct.

1537
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,160
I don't know.

1538
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,560
These are movies like I will definitely recommend Mandy to people

1539
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:42,480
and I will definitely recommend Prisoners to certain people.

1540
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,840
That's fair.

1541
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,360
Mandy was on Tubi, if anyone listens, wants to launch it.

1542
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,160
It's also on Blu Ray at my house, if you'd like to come over.

1543
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,200
Yeah, you can do that.

1544
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,920
It wasn't Shuttered for years. It's not anymore, though.

1545
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,640
I actually thought it was a Shuttered original.

1546
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,760
I didn't realize it wasn't like.

1547
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,200
Yeah, because that was like when Shuttered first like became a thing.

1548
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,040
I felt like they were like that was like their thing for like the year.

1549
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,240
They were like Shutter Mandy.

1550
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,320
Like it was on the front page forever.

1551
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,040
They were like, we'll charge you one dollar for six months

1552
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,840
and you can watch Mandy.

1553
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,480
In fact, everyone go check them out.

1554
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,840
I'm not they don't pay me, but I got to say I love Shuttered.

1555
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,800
I want it to stay open.

1556
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,520
Yeah, that's that's a good plug for you guys.

1557
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840
And, you know, maybe maybe just while we're plugging things,

1558
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,520
maybe maybe we'll also plug Star Trek, the original siblings podcast,

1559
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,880
you know, if you guys haven't seen it and maybe we'll even plug out heard it.

1560
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,760
You know, you know, it's pretty fun. It's a good time.

1561
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,840
Maybe we'll even plug my YouTube channel,

1562
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,200
Real Alex Brisson, where I make fun of other bad movies.

1563
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,160
Go check it out, guys. It's a good old time.

1564
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,080
I just watched Son of Godzilla. Very funny.

1565
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,800
I did. I did watch that one.

1566
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,000
Peter and I both enjoyed your review of the car.

1567
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,720
Oh, my God. I love the course.

1568
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,120
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1569
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,680
Yeah. So for anyone who's interested, please rate, review, subscribe.

1570
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,920
We're on Reddit at cage match pod.

1571
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:09,800
Yeah. Hit us up if you want to plug anything.

1572
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,240
Oh, my God.

1573
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:15,160
You fucking savages.

1574
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,200
Thank you all for listening.

1575
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,040
Also, if you're out there and want to give us five stars

1576
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,240
in review on Apple podcast, I would help us a lot.

1577
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,160
It does for sure.

1578
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,920
And if you're interested in supporting us, we are on Patreon at cage match.

1579
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:31,640
And special thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico,

1580
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:36,320
Matt and Adam, and extra special thanks to our cage dancers, Ira and John.

1581
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,840
Next up, we've got a six eleven head to head match up

1582
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:46,280
between National Treasure one and a movie called Primal,

1583
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,480
which is about Nick Cage being on a boat and priming out

1584
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,680
hunting animated tigers, dangerous game of man.

1585
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,840
And we get to welcome back our one of our first guests,

1586
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Adam, from our National Treasure two episode.

1587
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,560
How's Adam been?

1588
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,960
I don't know. We'll find out.

1589
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,680
Tune in. Tune in.

1590
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,920
Find out how I am.

1591
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,480
Also, double extra special thanks to XYZ

1592
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:14,320
Productions Films for making these movies.

1593
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,840
You fucking rule.

1594
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,640
These are great and wacky as shit.

1595
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,840
Send us things. It's really.

1596
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,080
Tell us, how did you know Nick Cage?

1597
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,240
How did you get to know him?

1598
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:26,520
Can you get him on our podcast?

1599
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,880
Yeah, we love him.

1600
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,680
We do. Thank you, Sammy and Alex, so much for joining us.

1601
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,720
This is a lot of fun. I fucking.

1602
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,160
Thanks, guys.

1603
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,160
I fucking got.

1604
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,640
All right. New podcast.

1605
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,160
Who wins in a fight Galactus or Unicron?

1606
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,760
It sounds like a one episode podcast.

1607
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,080
Yeah, this is it.

1608
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,840
Nick, who wins in a fight Galactus or Unicron?

1609
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,880
Well, Unicron is voiced by Orson Welles, as I recall, isn't he?

1610
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:01,760
So that's hard to beat.

1611
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,680
Correct.

1612
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,520
All right, he's dead, so that that helps.

1613
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,600
Yeah, that weakens his case.

1614
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:13,000
Also, Galactus eats planets and Unicron is a planet.

1615
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,680
So Galactus wins.

1616
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,600
Yeah, that's fair.

1617
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,280
Watching you.

1618
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,640
Is that Sweet Caroline?

1619
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,600
No, I would never sing Sweet Caroline.

1620
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,600
Good.

1621
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:32,320
What was that?

1622
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:33,400
It was Sweet Caroline.

1623
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,400
Yeah, I thought so.

1624
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Touching me.

1625
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,200
I hate that song.

1626
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,400
Everyone fucking hates that song.

1627
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,440
I love that song.

1628
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:47,560
You would think, but everybody sings that karaoke.

1629
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,160
Peter, you're supposed to vet these people.

1630
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,480
But I don't want to hear it in karaoke.

1631
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:55,440
There's a I like it in if I'm listening to it by myself.

1632
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,120
As soon as a bunch of drunk people are singing it, get me out of there.

1633
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,640
I think it's impossible to listen to it by yourself.

1634
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,360
I'm pretty sure as soon as you turn it on, somebody rolls up next to you and they're

1635
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,360
just like, Oh, is that Sweet Caroline?

1636
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:34,720
Let me hit that chorus, bro.

