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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Speaking of bits, this was a great opportunity for us to see Nicolas Cage's bits.

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Agreed. Did we see Balsack?

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We did not.

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I totally thought we saw his ass pumping in Joe.

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But no, it was just another random ass going to town.

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That's right. I forgot about that scene.

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Today we're discussing Joe and Zabadoo.

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Zabadoo.

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Now, before we see the Toros pepini.

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Using dating apps is viral marketing is shockingly working well.

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I'm glad. I mean, we definitely got some upticks.

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I put it on. I put it as like a fun fact about me.

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And 90 percent of people who like contact me are just like,

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what are you actually doing this?

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And then I'm like, yeah, cage match, colon, a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage.

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And if you have been like, I'm listening to it now.

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And I'm like, and you're still talking to me.

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That's a good sign. And then they go.

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Yeah. Within an hour, you lose them.

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Welcome back to cage match, colon, a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage.

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I am your host, Sean, with I'm Nick and our producer, Peter. Hello.

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And this is our podcast where we are watching 64 of Nicolas Cage's

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best films and weeding them down

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bracket style and worst 64 movies that definitely say

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Nicolas Cage on the poster. Yes. Yeah.

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In the news, him as name cloud sometimes.

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So but not in these two movies.

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No, he's actually starring in these two movies.

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Which is actually also like why I'm here. Just name cloud.

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Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

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Everybody's like, oh, Nick.

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So I'm listening. Yeah.

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No last name, just Nick.

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Cool. So since it's March Madness,

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this is a podcast that uses March Madness bracket ology.

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So we've got two movies, a three seed going up against a 14 seed today.

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OK, so we're doing Zondaly and Joe.

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I have a question for you, Nick. Oh, OK.

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Do you suffer from erectile dysfunction?

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Are. No, we're now a sponsored podcast for Seattle.

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Well, because I mean, Zondaly is essentially like Viagra or Seattle's of the movie.

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Rick Flair is the official erectile dysfunction

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spokesperson for Mike Tyson's weed brand.

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What? What? Yeah.

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So Mike Tyson's got the movies we're talking about this now on.

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And Rick Flair is the E.D. spokesperson for it.

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I mean, is that is that the thing?

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The person takes the ED medication and then just brick flared like goes.

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They smoke the smoke the pot. Yes.

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Yeah, we're not degenerates.

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You can leave that pause and stop the podcast.

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Stop the podcast. I want to watch this now.

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This seems like something that's in your scene.

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Them hanging out and stuff. Oh, fuck yeah, dude.

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Oh, man. Back in college, I had a professional wrestling themed birthday party one time.

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Incredible. It was so good.

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I had the best Rick Flair costume.

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It was just like full body blue suit with like a huge feather boa.

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And I was just rolling around body chopping people screaming.

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Oh, the whole night.

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Hey, Nick, do you suffer from erectile dysfunction?

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Get the fuck out of here constantly.

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You got to keep all this in Peter.

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Joe from 2013 stars Nick Cage as Joe

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Ty Sheridan as Gary.

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He's Cyclops. He's Cyclops.

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And Nicolas Cage was a ghostwriter.

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Yeah, that was one of my one fun facts for this film.

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It's an MCU connection.

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Yeah. Even though neither were MCU movies now.

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And Gary Poulter plays Wade, Gary's father.

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All right. So this is Joe.

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A coming of age story about Gary, a 15 year old

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who finds friendship in the unlikeliest of places.

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Passing through town, Gary meets Joe, who gives him a job on his work crew.

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Joe teaches Gary about the value of hard work, women and friendship.

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When Gary's sister lands herself in a pickle, he turns to his only friend for help.

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Lands herself in a pickle is a horrible way of phrasing.

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What happens to his sister?

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We don't know that anything happened.

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She was just in a jam.

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I mean, no, not going to touch that one with a ten foot clown pole.

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Concise. Fully wrapped up the movie.

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Yeah, it's a banger. Yeah. OK.

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I mean, you did you did accomplish the goal. Yeah.

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I mean, I've been practicing.

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I've been summarizing all sorts of shit.

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My sex life rocks.

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That's the summer of your sex life.

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Good summary. It's a coming of age story, bro.

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All right. So Joe played by Nicolas Cage.

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I liked it. Yeah, I thought it was really fun.

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It was a it was a really interesting movie.

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It was very well performed.

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Learning more about the script, how it came about,

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the the adaptation of the novel, a little bit more about the author

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who a lot of the characterization of like Gary and things like that

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were all kind of based on.

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It was really interesting.

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So 2013, this is Pete Cage taking whatever he can get to make a buck.

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And shockingly good for this era of his work.

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I mean, he puts on a great performance and one of his better

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portraying drunk that we've seen in a long time because that swings wildly.

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Yeah. No, he had a very consistent performance in this movie.

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And I think it was really good.

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Like his characterization was pretty grounded.

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The script really helped.

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I mean, it was a really well written adaptation of this novel.

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And well, and Nick Cage himself said that, you know, this character

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is one of the closest he's ever played to himself,

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so he wasn't even really acting.

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Well, it's interesting because my note was that this felt like the most authentic

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acting performance that we've seen from him.

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So that actually really does make some sense.

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Now, like that, it felt very whole.

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Yeah. No, no real wild antics.

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I mean, just in terms of acting, like no extreme tonal modulations.

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Yeah. He plays a consistent character.

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So the character, Joe, is an ex con who runs a work crew.

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This is in outskirts of Texas.

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And he works for the timber company.

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He goes in and what he does is.

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Just killing trees.

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So they've got these weird like Ghostbuster backpacks, which pump poison into a hatchet

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and they just like hit the tree a couple of times, the tree will die

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and then the timber company will come in and cut it out.

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But I don't know why it has to be done in that order.

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So you pay a company to remove trees and they just fucking do it.

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I did. I grew up in a very low.

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Yeah, those hatchets ruled.

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But I grew up in a very logging centric area of Oregon.

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So Gary comes into town.

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He's got a real shit heel old man, dad, who beats him.

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And it seems like they just kind of drift from town to town and.

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He runs into Joe's crew out there working and he's like, Hey, man, I need a job.

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Can you help me out?

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So Nick Cage gets him in there.

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He's like, get somebody showing him like, here's how you deliver water to the other guys.

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Here's how you use the Ghostbuster acts.

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Here's how you do. Great little montage.

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Yeah, it's good. I mean, and it's fun.

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It's actually fun watching it because this kid playing Gary, he kills it like.

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Yeah, Ty Sheridan did a great job.

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Yeah, yes, he's really fun to watch and he's just I don't know.

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He just he comes across as like a 15 year old kid super well.

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Like he's just a little goofy. He's very sincere.

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Like the only other things I know him from we talked about Cyclops in the later

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X-Men film. The second half of the X-Men movie.

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The bad ones. I mean, I don't like really any of them, but the extra bad ones.

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And he was in Ready Player One.

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Oh, yeah, which also bad.

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So it was really nice to, you know, be like, oh, I see why you get work.

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From there, you know, he gets his dad on the crew, but his dad is obviously a very, very late stage alcoholic.

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He's not good for anything, ends up getting both of them kind of taken off the crew list.

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Through just a late night in the rain boom box kind of scene.

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Say anything. Yeah.

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Ty Sheridan comes back and manages to secure himself another chance at the job.

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And so Nick Cage takes pity on him, brings him back like on the sly, though.

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Yeah, yeah. He's like, you got to meet me here at this convenience store before the sun rises.

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That's pretty shady. But and then we'll get you there.

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It just happens to be where the whole crew meets up anyways. But.

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Besides the dad's issues, the other main kind of antagonist of this film is Willie Reynolds or something. Yeah.

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I went through a windshield. I don't give a fuck. His one continues his catchphrase.

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Yeah, I mean, it's it's awesome. Like he says it so many times.

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Introduced to in the film, having seen Joe like coming out of a convenience store, it's like, you know who that is? Yeah.

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And then the friend's house just from a truck. Hey, Joe. And then shoots him in the shoulder.

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I thought I had missed a scene.

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No, no, I love that there's just this existing beef. Yeah. And it's such a like small slight.

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And they briefly touch on it later that, you know, they got into it one night.

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And he slapped him. Yeah. Nick Cage slapped him.

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It embarrassed him. And so now he goes and he like takes a pot shot at him from like, I don't know, 50 yards away.

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I mean, it was a bad one, but I just love that later. He's like yelling at Nick Cage and he's just like,

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I could have I could have killed you. And he like shot him in the shoulder.

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I could have killed you. I was shooting at the trees.

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But that was a warning shot. It's like you were shooting at the trees and you hit him in the fucking shoulder.

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I don't think if you wanted to, you could have killed him.

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I think it was literally impossible. I mean, their little beef is just so dumb.

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Yeah. That beef continues slowly throughout the film. It simmers.

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It does. That guy also gets beef with Gary. Yeah.

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So because after he shoots Joe, he goes to chuck the gun in the river. Yeah.

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And Gary sees him and wants a ride into town. Yeah.

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This is also where we get the the back story about the slap and we get the greatest line from him, which was just, hey, come here.

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Look at my face. See that I went through a windshield at four o'clock one morning and I don't give a fuck.

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Folks looking for trouble often find more than they're after.

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And I will kill his fucking ass if he ever slaps me again.

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And like, that's the only time like that's the first time they tell you why he shot Nicolas Cage is like, oh, he he slapped you and you're going to shoot him.

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OK. And he's such a bad ass. Yeah.

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And Gary's just like, OK, fine. And then he starts asking Gary about his sister. Yeah.

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And that's when Gary goes off and beats the shit out of this guy, which then goes on to this guy looking for Gary, the rest of the movie.

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Joe's a real mad about town. He's kind of helps out a lot of people.

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Joe is a frequent, the local sex worker establishment.

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It's a whorehouse. It's a whorehouse.

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There's a dog there he doesn't like because it bit him in the ass once.

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Mm hmm. What? OK. Speaking of dogs, though, the first time he goes there, he's trying to have a liaison with the madam.

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And it gets busted up for whatever reason. It's not important.

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But then one of the other sex workers like crawls into the room on hand all fours.

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Well, yeah, I mean, that was just fun.

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It was fun and games and they were having fun and games with each other.

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You can see it. Who was she doing it for? For the madam.

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She was still sitting at the table having a drink and like the hooker walks back in.

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It's totally OK to call them this in this situation.

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Crawls back in. I know, but you looked at me.

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Crawls back in like a dog and the madam just like knock it off.

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And then they both laugh to each other. I feel satisfied now.

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As you should from trip one to the whorehouse.

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But yeah, he just goes about town till he gets shot and then goes home and his girlfriend shows up.

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Someone like she has troubles with at her home with her mom's boyfriend coming back and doesn't want to go home.

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Yeah. So they have a just convenient relationship.

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She's definitely significantly younger. Yeah. Yeah.

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We just talk about just how just shredded Nick Cage is in this film.

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He's pretty bulked up. Yeah. Like for, you know, early 20, 20, 13, you said.

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How old is he now? He's 59 now.

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So if he's 50 now, 59, 10 years ago, this is the easiest math.

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Forty nine. Forty nine. We got there.

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This is great content. But yeah, no, like Nick and Sean learn how to math.

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So he's a big boy. Yeah, no, he's he's got a you know, he's stout.

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He's a working man. He does like a hard labor job. Little Junior Brown.

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He was huge for gets big for Conair.

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And this, which was like the same time, which was the same time.

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And this he actually I'm assuming he was turning down work to do this film.

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And I think part of that must have been working out because he turned down expendable three to like prepare for this film.

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Nick Cage isn't a gimmick actor. That's a gimmick movie. It's true.

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I'm glad he did this instead. Yeah. I was actually a little apprehensive about this movie because I was like, man, I don't know.

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Like, it looks like it's not that good. Very pleasantly surprised. Yeah.

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It had it had really good performances across the board. And it was beautifully filmed, too.

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Oh, yeah. And not just by the like primary, the camera team, but the team got really good, like establishing shots and the way they framed people.

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Like when G dog, Gary's dad followed the homeless guy back to where he was drinking his wine. I mean, just the shots of the two of them sitting there were really good.

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And then he beat the guy's fucking head with a piece of steel and stole his boons farm. That was a brutal, violent scene.

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Yeah, it was still some cash and also a position of like the kissing the guy on the head and like, yeah, well, he wasn't doing it to be violent.

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He was doing it because he's a crippling alcoholic. Yeah. So I want to talk about this actor real quick.

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So David Gordon Green is up in the name of the director.

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He always hires locals for his films. Wade Gary Poulter, this is his one acting credit. He was a homeless dude in the city where they filmed and he just like hired him for this job.

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He actually died like two months after rap of this film.

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The homeless guy that he killed is actually the father of one of the actors who was on the work crew. Oh, wow. So I mean, tie their great performance.

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I mean, you can't really understand the thing the man says, but for just being a guy they like met and used. Good job. Yeah.

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I mean, he's got that thick, like alcoholic kind of slur. And I don't know. I feel like his lines came across fine.

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I'm old, though, and I watch things with closed captioning. I do, too. Yeah. So I got all the words. Yeah, I didn't watch it with closed caption. I learned how to pop and lock.

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I was a charming scene. It was. I mean, you see the that character had his moments where it's like, OK, I can see why Gary didn't just run away.

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I mean, like, obviously he was protecting his sister, Dorothy, as well.

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But I could see why he didn't abandon his family because in, you know, classic abuse ways, there's just enough good sprinkle on top of it that you're like, oh, he could be helped.

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Or like he's just having problems like it's a bad day. I mean, it really hit home for me just because I have a friend from the before times who pretty large substance to be a

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turn has been going through rough spat for several years largely.

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Because he doesn't want to work, but I'm like, oh, that's that's going to be that guy.

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That the Fedora where the fastest skanker and the fastest skanker in Virginia, Virginia.

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Last I heard he was doing exorcisms. He I got a voicemail from him one night where he claimed to be a real life John Constantine.

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Oh, that's pretty neat. His life is going well.

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He's going to go through Joe. Like, where do we leave off?

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Whores.

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Gary is the one thing Joe really does care about.

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Early on, Joe drops Gary off from work and his dad like mugs Gary in the in the front yard.

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Joe's about to step out and do something but stops and gets questioned about it later from his girlfriend.

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And, you know, I think this is where we first hear him say, you know, him not getting involved in other people's lives is the one thing that keeps him out of jail.

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Yeah, he's definitely got like a big anger problem and restraint problem.

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Like he doesn't stop. And he knows that about himself, which is good.

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And we see it a couple of times. Like he definitely gets harassed by the cops.

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Yep. They're definitely shitty cops in this. Oh, yeah. I will say Earl, the sheriff. Good job.

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Yeah. Yeah. But like clearly Earl and Joe used to run together.

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So before Earl got on the straight and narrow, like he was, you know, Joe says he was worse than him. Yeah.

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Earl keeps Joe out of trouble. Why does he get arrested?

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Well, he got arrested because he was driving home.

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They flashed their lights to pull him over, probably because they know he drinks and he's confrontational.

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He spent time in state. 29 months in the pen for assaulting a police officer.

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In the movie, the first time we see him get arrested, they flashed their lights to pull him over and he's like, fuck that.

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And so he like just keeps driving. They like try to pull him over.

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He like swerves to get the cop off his ass. And then there's another cop up ahead.

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So they've got him pinned and he stops and gets out of his car and gets all confrontational.

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Tells him to put down their gun so they can fight it out. Yeah.

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He's like, let's just talk about this like men. And he's like putting up fisticuffs and stuff.

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And OK, wait, now I remember the scene. So he bar fight happens where he almost stabs dude in the face, goes to the whorehouse, dogs there, drives home, gets dog, comes back to her house, has his people kill that dog so he can talk.

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Yeah. Well, just a blow job. Yeah. He just needed a blow job because he was real on edge after almost stabbing Willie. Yeah. Right.

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And I love that. I love that scene as he's walking up with the hooker.

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He's like he goes in there and then it cuts to upstairs and you just see a man ass just go into town.

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I'm like, wow, like Nick Cage really committed.

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But it pans over and that's just another dude fucking with an open door and just pans over to Nick Cage walking up the stairs.

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Yeah. When he goes to the whorehouse and talks to the hooker, he wants to get with the madam, but she's not there.

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So he's like, OK, I guess you'll do. And he's like interviewing her to make sure that she's good enough to slob on his knob.

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And it just goes like, got any pets? I mean, I had a cat. Cat. Beautiful. What's his name?

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Missy. What do you feed it? I don't know. Fucking dry food. What's your favorite color? Red. Blow me.

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It's like, boom, boom, boom. OK, I know enough about you. You can suck on my diesel. It's fine.

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And then he has like the loudest orgasm. Oh, man. Yeah. And then he's just whoo rips right out of him.

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And then he's done. And he's just like standing up, like practically knocking her over as he does.

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And he's like, I got to go. And so then he leaves. That's when he gets pulled over by the cops. He lets his dog out.

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Just run free. Yeah. Which I was thinking about him like, you know, he probably let the dog out because he knew the dog would actually attack a cop.

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They came by the truck. So it's like, oh, that makes sense. They never talk about it, but the dog jumps out and it runs.

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Yeah. And then this is where we meet Earl. Let's Joe out. And then Joe and Gary go to find the dog, which leads to one of my favorite lines from this film.

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Oh, one of my favorite scenes, too. Oh, my God. The montage is just so good.

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But but my dog's about 100 pounds round and why it looks like a cow looks like a cow. Right.

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You have a dog that looks like a cow. Well, it's not that big a deal.

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A lot of dogs look like cows. Yeah. They're also a little bit drunk. Yes. Yeah.

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Yeah. And Gary drive. He lets Gary have a roadie. Yeah. Gary tries to buy a beer off of him and he's like, you can have a beer, but you can't buy a beer.

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Friends don't buy things from me. I don't know. My favorite line came out of this as well. This little drunk montage.

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It's the cool face. I'm going to give you three. They're so good. I have to give you three.

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First, when they're driving down the street and Gary's driving, Nick Cage is, you know, lightness.

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It just gets done giving Gary a beer and he's just flicking his zip. He's like, you hear that?

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That's the sound that gets hookers excited. They know they know you got cash.

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They hear that. And that was a wild eyed look around from the hooker.

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That that one gets me because I get to say hooker and I get to make visual jokes that that no one will say.

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Yeah. Josie understood. I like that.

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My second favorite quote from the same montage is our cool face quote.

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You want to know how to make a cool face? All right.

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Anatomy of a cool face. Make a face of pain.

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Now smile. No smile on top of the pain. Hold the pain. Smile through it.

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You ain't drunk, are you? Shit. I better drive.

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You know what, Gary? You got it made because think of all the beautiful girls you're going to fuck.

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I used to know this girl lived around here. Shit. Where's my dog?

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I raised that dog from a pup. It's like he's so drunk.

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He's just kind of like rambling. But this cool face thing, because I mean, find us on Twitter.

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You'll see these cool faces. We're going to make some do.

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Oh, we're going to go read it to do both. Why not?

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Instagram, all the socials. OK. Find us online. You'll see our stupid ass faces.

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Leave a comment while you're there.

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So at the end of this montage, Joe's talking to Gary and he's just like, you got to work on that cool face.

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You got to stand like your own land. Right.

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Now make the pain face. You got a lot on your mind.

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Now smile. Yeah, it's like.

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I got a lot on my mind, but I can do it.

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I can get through it. Yeah, you're getting it.

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That's cool. And they're just the dumb.

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I mean, they're the coolest faces. Yeah.

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I think this is a third film in a row where like this really is just completely sold by the two leads,

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just vibing off each other so well. They have such good chemistry.

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Like the scenes where the two of them are together are just honestly a lot of fun to watch,

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even when the subject material is more mature or it's not a walk in the park. Yeah.

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So the next real major thing to happen is Willie's Wonderland. What's Scarface's name?

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Willie. Yeah. So Willie like finds Gary's dad on the street.

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He's like, hey, man, I want to rap at you.

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And so it cuts to Gary like just fucking beat up and pissed and showing up at Joe's.

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And he's like, let me borrow your truck. I got to borrow your truck.

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And Joe's like, whatever. Blah, blah, blah. Like, let's talk about this.

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Like you're real worked up. And it comes around to like Gary's dad took Gary's sister

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and was like going off for some clandestine meeting with Scarface. Yeah.

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Now, when they get out there, Scarface and his buddy, Willie and his buddy are just like,

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they meet with Gary's dad. Gary's dad's like 30 bucks each. No explanation.

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Like, you know, Willie's getting into the back of the truck with a terrifying Easter bunny mask.

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Yeah. And I mean, it's obviously going to become a sex thing.

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And this is around when Gary and Joe show up and Joe like tosses open the truck, throws Willie out,

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gets the sister out, tells Gary to like get the sister out of there and get him to safety and get Earl for help.

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And then he proceeds to confront Willie and his buddy and eventually resolve everything.

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He's going to blow Willie's brains out. Willie's excuse.

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I'm glad you finished that sentence. Willie's going to blow Willie.

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Willie's excuses. Well, she was going to wind up, you know, working at the whorehouse anyway.

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Before Gary can, you know, take care of Willie, Willie's buddy.

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She's Joe in the butt. Gary shoots him in the butt. Shoots him in the butt. Blowing in butt stuff.

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So, yeah, Joe takes a shot in the side, takes one in the leg, manages to take out both of the low life rapist scums, goes to finish off.

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Oh, but the key on that one is that he shoots Willie in the middle of him doing his line about going through a wind shield.

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Yeah. Yeah. Which is like the fourth time he's gotten into this line.

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I went through a wind shield before him. I don't give a bang. Yeah.

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And goes to confront Gary's dad. I don't think they say anything.

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Gary's dad just like climbs up on the bridge and. Yeah.

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Joe tries to shoot him, but he's in a bad place. Like he's not doing well.

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So he misses. He's out of bullets. And the dad was definitely just like the consequences of what he was there to do just to feed his alcoholism.

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Yeah. I think we're really weighing on him. And he just said, fuck it.

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Just kind of lets himself go over the side, kills himself off the side of the bridge.

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Cops show up with Gary, Earl and Dorothy.

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Which I don't know why those two were brought back to the scene.

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Yeah, makes no sense. Obviously for narrative reasons, but also shitty cops.

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Gary could say goodbye to his father figure, you know, looks over the bridge to see his, you know, actual father, like literally dead in a ditch.

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Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Just good. And then we have a really nice kind of, again, narrative scene of Gary talking to the leader of a work crew.

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The guy gives him the same kind of spiel about what he's going to get paid that Joe gave him in the beginning.

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And the guy gives Gary a job because he knew Joe and Joe's a good guy.

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And they are planting new trees on the land that they cleared.

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But it's a good ending. No, it was a good ending. And it wrapped it up nicely.

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And it adds like a book ends it. I thought it was a really good one. I had no expectation going into this one.

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This is another one of those. It's a Nick Cage movie from this era.

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I know it had I'd heard good things, but I had no idea what to expect.

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It was a dark horse three. Like, I mean, yeah, I did not expect anything out of it despite where we had it.

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Good movie. Good cage. Good movie. Good cage. Bad cop. Good kid.

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Mostly bad cops. One good cop. Yeah. Oh, man. We didn't talk about like Harry Cage.

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Nick Cage like got out of the car with that second cop like when he was solo.

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And he just like walked right up to him and like fucking slaps the gun right out of the kid's hand.

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And it's like, yeah, slaps his hat and then just like slams his head into the car or whatever.

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And it's just like, Jesus Christ.

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And then he just gets off with a warning from early.

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He's like, well, that rookie was a little too ambitious. I get it.

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It's like, Jesus. No, I thought everything about this film was great.

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We talked about the way it was shot, just all the acting in it.

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Everyone was amazing. I think it held up all the way through.

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It's a pretty tight two hours. Yeah. Yeah.

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Hey, Nick, I got a question for you. OK. Do you suffer from erectile dysfunction?

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Because that because Judge Reinhold does in Zandily. Yeah. Zondia starring Nick Cage as Johnny Collins.

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Judge Reinhold is Terry Martin and Eric Anderson is Zandily Merton.

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You're forgetting two other important people. Marissa Tomei as Ramey. Yeah.

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And Steve Buscemi as OPP man. Yeah.

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I mean, that was my next no. Up in the Tenture, you work release kind of thing.

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He's like a garbage man and Joey Pants, Joey Pantolioni as Jerry.

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That was literally the first thing I wanted to talk about once we did the summary was who else is in this movie for little to no reason.

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Everybody. We covered it. Thanks, guys.

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I mean, it's the same time we were introducing the characters. Yeah.

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That's the time to introduce characters. But these aren't actual characters.

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That was just to be a fun. These people are awesome.

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This movie for no real reason, like they could have literally been played by anyone.

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It wouldn't have mattered. Not true.

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All right. Before we get ahead of ourselves.

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Zandily, a coming of age story about Zandily, a young woman looking for love in all the wrong places.

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When things grow stale with her bow, Terry Zandily finds comfort in the arms of artist and childhood friend of Terry Johnny.

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Things heat up when Terry tries to win her back on a Bayou boat trip, only to be surprised by Johnny's arrival.

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Who will Zandily choose? I'm liking these summaries. Yeah.

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So yes, Terry works for a cable company that his father started.

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He has a terrible Louisiana accent. Oh, my God. It's the worst. So bad.

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This is officially the worst accent we've had in a Nicolas Cage movie.

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And it's true. We've seen Nicolas Cage do a Boston accent.

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We've seen him do a Boston accent, and there was the time we heard him do a Boston accent.

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So I'm excited when we get to see him in Captain Kareli's mandolin.

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Doing a Boston accent. Boston accent. Yeah.

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OK, so let me see. Let me set the scene for how this movie opens.

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Boots. Yeah, boy.

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You see a little bit of a Bourbon Street and then the titular Zandily's tits are out.

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But it's not just their boobs. Those were just like the appetizer because you get Bush right after.

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That's true. This movie has full frontal female mood.

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In my notes, I wrote like this is just softcore porn.

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So I went hard in the paint for this movie during our like bracket making because it is one of the only like incredibly horny Nick Cage movies.

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And this might be the sexiest cage that mustache and goatee combo.

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Oh, that's called a Van Dyke, sir.

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00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Yeah, the Van Dyke is a good look on him. But like, is he sexy?

416
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,880
I mean, he's got like thinning hair, mullet sort of.

417
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880
Oh, yeah. Sexy for 91. I'm not going to lie.

418
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,880
The costumer gave him excellent glasses for his head.

419
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Yes, because he not only did he have like multiple pairs of glasses that he wore,

420
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,880
they had a real optician kind of look at him and be like, hey, this is the size of glasses.

421
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,880
And here's some really artsy styles for you to wear.

422
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Peter, do me a favor, say hard in the paint again.

423
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Hard in the paint.

424
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaking of which, that's a segue.

425
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Only fun fact.

426
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880
That's not a segue.

427
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,880
It wasn't. You asked me to do a thing.

428
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Shut up. You asked him to do it.

429
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,880
And then you just said, speaking of which, that's a segue.

430
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Hard in the paint.

431
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,880
One of the sexier scenes where Nick Cage is painting Zondaly paints are like belly button area.

432
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,880
But either way, the actress was saying how she hated that scene because Nick Cage went a little

433
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
little overboard with his action on that one.

434
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880
And she felt actually violent acting.

435
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Yeah. He she said that he was a little intense in some of these like sex scenes.

436
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,880
This this is probably a prime example of a movie that could have used.

437
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,880
What do they call them? Intimacy coordinators?

438
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Absolutely.

439
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:07,880
It's just so much. And yeah, I mean, Nick Cage goes past the navel and practically down to the bush with this paint.

440
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,880
And I mean, I assume she's wearing a mercantil or something, but still.

441
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,880
Yeah. I mean, it was a good one if it was.

442
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,880
I'll have to go down to my local mercantil shop and compare.

443
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880
A mercantile? Oh my God.

444
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,880
That's all, folks. This has been Cage Match. Good night.

445
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Sean's officially off the podcast.

446
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,880
That is the best thing that you're going to say, though.

447
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,880
There's no question about it.

448
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,880
So, Nick, you called this. I mean, you know, maybe it was you, Peter.

449
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Someone last last episode was excited for all the medium sex we were going to see.

450
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,880
Oh, that's me. Yeah.

451
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,880
And we definitely saw a bunch of medium sex.

452
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,880
Yeah. Medium is the best way to describe it.

453
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,880
This movie initially had like an NC-17 rating.

454
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,880
I think it still is. It never got or it's just unrated now.

455
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880
They took it from NC-17 to unrated.

456
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,880
They did edit it down to an R version.

457
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,880
Is that what they have up on Tubi? The only place you can see this movie?

458
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,880
I think that was the R version.

459
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Well, now I want to see what its uncut version is.

460
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,880
Yeah. Can we find uncut Zanderly?

461
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Tell us more likely to find uncut Nicolas Cage.

462
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,880
So he plays an artist who shows up in his childhood best friend's life, offers to paint him.

463
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
OK, so the introduction to him, though, they're at like a club.

464
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Oh, yeah. Shriners. And they're all wearing fezzes and shit.

465
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,880
They've got their Shriner fezzes on, but it's like it's a backlit thing.

466
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Yeah. Backlit doorway that he enters.

467
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,880
That's just a mitzvah. Yeah. Whipping his hair around.

468
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,880
Yeah, they were shooting a music video.

469
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Yeah. Awesome. He's a fucking wild boy.

470
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,880
But everybody knows him, too, because like they see just the silhouette and him head banging.

471
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,880
And they're like, Johnny,

472
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Terry is just like, oh, it's my old friend that I haven't seen forever.

473
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880
And I like that his name is John Paul Gregory the third.

474
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Oh, sorry. John Paul Gregory Collins.

475
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,880
The third. He's got a real fucking big ass name.

476
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,880
He's a big boy. His dad also like John Paul Gregory Collins, the second.

477
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,880
Yeah. I think they just say junior at that point.

478
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,880
They would. Yeah. The thirds are usually called trays.

479
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,880
Oh, yeah. Fun fact.

480
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,880
And chips are often juniors. Chip off the old block.

481
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,880
So these are just like street names for them.

482
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Need to know how to refer to all of my lacrosse friends in the streets.

483
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Yes, but not in the sheets. Yeah.

484
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,880
No words, just emotions.

485
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:40,880
OK, I was going to give this movie credit because it has a like one of the prominent characters is a queer character in a movie from 1991.

486
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,880
And it's done well.

487
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,880
That could be played for goofs or, you know, he's just a character.

488
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,880
Yeah. Well, like he gets assaulted.

489
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Bird cage or anything like that. Yeah.

490
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,880
No, he's not.

491
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880
Not that bird cage is a bad movie or anything, but it's not.

492
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,880
But it's not like overly flamboyant for, you know, comic effect.

493
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,880
The hairstylist in The Rock was a prime example of a bad character.

494
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:08,880
Oh, yeah. I appreciated the fact that there's, you know, 91 queer character, not just there to be like, oh, look at the gay and a young Joey Pants.

495
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,880
And Joey Pants looks pretty good in a dress. Yeah. Yeah.

496
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Way to go, Joey Pants. Yeah.

497
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880
So, yeah, Johnny shows up.

498
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:22,880
It's reintroduced to Terry's grandma who he lives with and Zonda Lee.

499
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,880
No one pronounces her name the same as Zonda Lee Zonda Lee Zan.

500
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Yeah. Zan only comes out when Judge Reinholdt forgets how to do it.

501
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:42,880
And he's like, hey, Zan, their connection was a he used to be literature professor at a college at Judge Reinholdt's character.

502
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Terry was a poet. That's why she fell in love with him.

503
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,880
But since his dad died, he stopped writing poetry and stopped getting boners. Yep.

504
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,880
Do you see the name of his book? No. Nefarious truths.

505
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,880
Yeah, it was such a sexy film.

506
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,880
You know, they're married. She's like, let's let's let's try and have sex. And he just gets mad about it.

507
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,880
Well, again, this movie is Viagra, the movie when they go to have like sex and they're like, oh, you know, warm it up, warm it up.

508
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,880
And then she immediately flips over and she's like, put it in my ass.

509
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,880
And he's just like, I can't operate under this kind of pressure.

510
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,880
She's like, I thought we were going to be adventurous. I thought we needed this.

511
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,880
He's like, I'm going to go put on my fez and cry with my Shriner friends and leaves.

512
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,880
I'm trying to remember how the the affair starts.

513
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:48,880
The affair begins pretty much begins from that first dinner or time that Johnny comes over to the place and kind of like, I don't know, he gets all sexy and confrontational with Zondali.

514
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:56,880
And now nothing happens in that moment, but it just builds on like he pays attention to her.

515
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,880
And that's not something she's been getting.

516
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:06,880
And it kind of gets kicked off when he reveals the painting of Teary and she's sort of like, yeah, yeah.

517
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:13,880
For whatever reason, that like makes him really want to confront her and then they fucking the laundry room.

518
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Oh, man. No, that's later.

519
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,880
No, he assaults. He essentially assaults her on the street and like throws her up against a wall and she takes her panties off.

520
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,880
Well, she's a big jogger.

521
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,880
Oh, that's right. The panty drop.

522
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:41,880
Oh, man. Yeah, she's always jogging in the mornings and apparently she jogs past some place that Johnny hangs out because he like pops out, spins her into this alleyway and like they talk a little bit and get the fucking kiss in.

523
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:59,880
And he's like, I like it when you don't wear anything underneath. And so she just get this weird, uncomfortable shot of like her fucking kids and like fold down socks as like a pair of panties just drops down into a mud puddle and she kicks him off.

524
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,880
And it's like, oh, God, she wants it so bad.

525
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,880
He's an artist. Yeah. A tortured artist. There's pain in him. That's the hottest kind. He's got a lot on his mind.

526
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:16,880
You got to harness that pain and then smile over it. Yeah. So they got a lot on my mind. They have, you know, they have their initial through it.

527
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,880
Trist. And then she like, this was a mistake. You know, I'm married.

528
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,880
An old friend of Terry's has Johnny come over for dinner one night and Johnny brings Mercer Tomei, his girlfriend.

529
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:33,880
I think girlfriend's kind of brings over another woman and then Zonda Lee gets all pissy. It's like, you know, don't bring your girlfriends in here.

530
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:42,880
You're the one who had the affair and said you didn't want to have an affair. And now you're getting pissy that, you know, the guy you're not trying to have an affair with who is an artist and a womanizer.

531
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:53,880
That's why you had the affair is, you know, doing this. So this is one of Tomei's first roles. Yeah. And then she did my cousin Vinny immediately after this and won a fucking Oscar.

532
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,880
Damn. And that's when they fuck on the washing machine. Yes.

533
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Well, Terry's in the other room with his grandmother. Oh, my God. And like when he hears like he can hear the washing machine start up as like Johnny's over there, like I'm just just cleaning up.

534
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:21,880
This is what I'm like. Yeah. This is what I sent you, Peter. I sent you the just photo I took of the screen of just Terry just like kind of like side eyeing as the washing machine going off.

535
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:28,880
And I asked you stuff from erectile dysfunction. And I as soon as I hit play, the eyes just looked at the camera and I'm like, ah, perfect.

536
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,880
As soon as you know, Terry starts to kind of suss out that something's going on with the Zonda Lee and Johnny. Yeah.

537
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Terry gets very confrontational about the topic of infidelity. Yeah. And understandably so.

538
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:52,880
He can tell something's up. She's getting it around town and down. So he gets confrontational with a lot of people regarding it.

539
00:41:52,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Except the people he should until the gun comes out. Now, my personal opinion is he had more than strong suspicions that it was Johnny from the get go.

540
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:16,880
The way he talks to him at the bar when he's like, I don't know, as far as I know, it could be you. It's like you're just trying to be so nonchalant.

541
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:27,880
You're trying to get someone else to admit it. Yeah. And I can see that as like a pretty good response to learning this. Yeah.

542
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:37,880
My opinion is like he just knew from the get go. He's too soft. He's a fucking poet professor who doesn't write poetry anymore. Yeah. Or get boners. Yeah.

543
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Got to have boners to write poems. Where else do you put the pencil? In the urethra?

544
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:54,880
So Zonda Lee eventually kind of admits that she's had an affair. Doesn't say with him, but her and Terry decide they're going to make it work.

545
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,880
So they go out for a sexy vacation on the bayou and guess who shows up?

546
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,880
Johnny. Yeah, it was in my summary. I was going to say this is in your summary.

547
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:11,880
And then we have then we get to the real meat of this movie where I thought Zonda Lee got to the real meat of this movie in the first act.

548
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Terry and Johnny just want to fuck because they like what Terry like asks Zonda Lee to dance and Johnny's like, oh, I'll dance with you. They like have a little dance on the dock. Yeah, they have it like a very it's not aggressive and it's not like super well danced tango.

549
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:43,880
No, but just fuck already. Yeah, I couldn't tell if there was sexual tension or like if Judge Reinholdt was just getting ready to pitch him off the edge the whole time. Yeah, I took it more as that versus the sexual element.

550
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:52,880
But now that I'm thinking on it, like I think you might be on to something. Maybe. I mean, there might just I don't know. Terry could have been kind of closeted. Yeah. Like that mustache. I think they definitely.

551
00:43:52,880 --> 00:44:04,880
I will definitely say though, the portrayal of Johnny was exactly what I thought being an artist would be when I was a teenager and I decided to be an artist like fucking Van Dyke and sex. That's all I thought I would be getting.

552
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,880
None of that's true. You got the Van Dyke though, didn't you? The Van Dyke. I did have the Van Dyke. Yeah.

553
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:23,880
I will say this week has probably been the sexiest cage between both films, like in terms of just raw mannitude of Joe and just kind of, you know, trying to sell Nick Cage as a sex symbol in Zandily. Yeah.

554
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:39,880
And Zandily, he definitely like drips this animalistic nature. I wouldn't say that I I wanted to buy him as a sex figure, a sex icon. I mean, kind of thinking about it, it's like, yeah, I mean, they they painted him up pretty good.

555
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,880
It's no, you know, it's 91 sexy. Right. That's what I was going to say. This is before cum gutters were invented.

556
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:53,880
No, I mean, I think he was a sexy character, but I think there was a lot of the aggression in his behavior. Fuck. He had a real Chris Cornell look. Yeah. Oh, that's it. Yeah. OK.

557
00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:03,880
But I think that aggressiveness reads really poorly right now. Yes. And, you know, I'm sure in the moment when they were making this, they were like, that shows his passion and all this kind of stuff.

558
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:18,880
It's like, well, except for the scene where he like actually rapes her. Yeah. Right. I mean, that part's not so sexy. It is not. I mean, and also maybe we just lived in a more sexual expression in light and time, which is like the three of them could have just sat down and talked about this.

559
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Yeah. In the grand scope of things, I'm like, this isn't the worst thing that's ever happened to anybody. Yeah. It's not like Nick Cage went in and slapped him at a bar. Yeah.

560
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:38,880
That's obviously a shooting offense. Well, speaking of shooting offenses after the after the sexual tango, that's when a right old bust out the gun.

561
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Oh, no, they're on a bayou boat. Yeah, we're not a single boat chase. We're on. We're in Gator all of a sudden. Nobody else following them.

562
00:45:46,880 --> 00:46:03,880
But they go fast to go fast and he pulls out a gun and just start shooting wildly to like assert dominance. Oh, but he's got some good ones. He does like a good like under the arm and like flip behind him shot like he's showing off all of his tricks because he's he's a very much

563
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:17,880
beta male who now has a handgun and he doesn't know what to do with it, but he knows that the sound of the gun is intimidating and shooting the gun is intimidating.

564
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:26,880
So he leans into that to heighten this tension on the boat. And then Nick Cage like does a little juke and tosses him off the side.

565
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:35,880
Yeah, old gunboat Collins straight into the hyacinth and then Zanderle goes to like try and rescue him because he don't swim so good. Johnny's like, you know, I'll do it.

566
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:44,880
Get some actually hold him up and then Reinhold like gives him a little love bite on the neck. I don't know if I would call that a love bite. I mean, he gives him a good jump.

567
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:54,880
He tries to like take out his jugular and then yeah, just gives up and just lets himself drown. Yeah. And then immediately the next scene fucking beta immediately.

568
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,880
The next scene is just his tombstone. Yeah. Yeah. And then we've seen twice this point.

569
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Who shimmy as trash man trash man at this point basically has pretty much just like grabbed his genitals and shaken them out.

570
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Yeah, he's just like he's just like he's just rolling the graveyard for widows. It's great.

571
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:20,880
The first time they see the shimmy he's like rolling on the back of a garbage truck and he hits. He's like, yeah, baby, I'm the best at what I do.

572
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:27,880
And the next time we see him, he's running down the street with the strolling with the stolen television and tries to sell it to her as the cops are chasing him.

573
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Yeah, it's a steal. And now he's hitting on her at her husband's grave.

574
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:42,880
But this is also like the most subdued conversation because he only comes up and he he starts with like just a standard line of hey, got any money?

575
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:51,880
It's like, oh, I know you, you know me. And she's like, I killed my husband. And he's like, fuck, is this his grave?

576
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,880
Yeah. It's like shit. She's like, you want any chicken in a biscuit?

577
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:02,880
He's like, I'm a vegetarian. Like this movie does have some great lines. Yeah.

578
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,880
None of them involve Judge Reynald. I said of the movie makes absolutely.

579
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,880
Yeah. So, oh, you got to make accounts payable, Johnny.

580
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,880
They've teased that Johnny. They've teased that Johnny owes people money throughout the film.

581
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,880
And he's like dealing drugs and doing. Yeah. Yeah. And this guy. Yeah.

582
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,880
He's doing more drugs than he's dealing. He's like he's trying to like get Zonda to run away with him.

583
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,880
And she's trying to, you know, tell him to fuck off and do just rolls up in a car.

584
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,880
It's like, you got to make accounts payable, Johnny.

585
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,880
And then just, yeah, goes to shoot him zondily, like takes the bullets.

586
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Yeah. And then he sees the opening and she's like, mine. Yeah. Fucking kill. It's like suicide by drug dealer.

587
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Yeah. And then Johnny's just there holding her lifeless body.

588
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,880
And then he walks around the town a little bit and then credits. Yeah. OK.

589
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Like with her in his arms. So before we like get too far, I do want to mention like how fucking wacky the music was in this.

590
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,880
Yeah. The movie starts out with like New Orleans.

591
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,880
They're like early morning on like. Yeah. But it's just like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what?

592
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,880
What? It's like, what the fuck is this? And it's all.

593
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:16,880
Pray for Rain is the band. I haven't looked them up, but I wrote down their name because I now have beef with Pray for Rain.

594
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:24,880
Yeah. The music for this is so antithetical to the content of the movie.

595
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,880
The theme. Yeah, it's like Nick Cage is about to rape a girl.

596
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,880
But what about a model? Not good.

597
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,880
The best Johnny line in this entire film is I want to shake you naked and eat you alive.

598
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,880
Yeah, I think it's not the best line. My favorite line from him is, yes, it is, darling.

599
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,880
When that big red snatch is coming up right in your face like a freight train, it is pretty hard to paint.

600
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,880
I tell you what, that was a good one.

601
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:02,880
I was a big fan of you want it and I want to give it the perfect relationship.

602
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,880
What do you guys have for like fun facts? Anything? Not real.

603
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,880
I mean, this movie is a black hole of information for sure. Nobody reviewed it.

604
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,880
Nobody watched it was a direct to VHS release in the United States.

605
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Yeah. Like, wait, did it get a theatrical release release elsewhere? Yeah.

606
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,880
Oh, fucking France. It would be France.

607
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,880
Damn it. Did you guys watch American Dad? Yes.

608
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,880
Is this going to be about the fast of the year?

609
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,880
I was just thinking about talking about this and I'm like, that doesn't need to go in here.

610
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Oh, it definitely does.

611
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,880
The joke being that the writer of all the Fast and the Furious movies, these are just like homoerotic love stories.

612
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,880
Like two hour gay sex movies.

613
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,880
It's like the movies are like three hours and most of that is just gay sex.

614
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,880
And it gets cut down to an action car film.

615
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
But in France, they get the whole penetration.

616
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:04,880
Oh, uncut. But it's got shit like Dominic Toretto, like barrel rolling a car over Paul Walker's car.

617
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,880
And like, well, they do.

618
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,880
They both lean out the window and like fucking French kids like in slow motion.

619
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:18,880
The end of the episode is Stan's mom, like in France after her husband dies and goes to see the Fast and the Furious, like seven.

620
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,880
And she just leans over to the French kids like, have I missed any butt play?

621
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,880
And he's like, tons.

622
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,880
Yeah, that tracks.

623
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:38,880
France would be the place that this movie got a theatrical release while us fucking prudes in America have to deal with VHS.

624
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,880
Good cage, good movie, bad cage, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good.

625
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,880
This is a tough one.

626
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,880
I'm going to go neutral cage bad movie.

627
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,880
I think it's still good cage bad movie because he brings so much like just fire to that role.

628
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,880
He's 100 percent invested in everything.

629
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,880
And I don't think he misses.

630
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,880
I don't think he's there.

631
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,880
I don't think his lines ever fell short.

632
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Like my notes rip apart Judge Reinholdt, Eric Anderson.

633
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Yeah, is Eric Anderson still alive?

634
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,880
I don't know if she's alive.

635
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,880
She has done nothing with her career.

636
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,880
Well, she deeply regretted doing this.

637
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,880
I don't blame her.

638
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Everybody else in this movie kind of sucked.

639
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880
Yeah, Joey Pants was good.

640
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,880
Yeah, Joey Pants was OK.

641
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,880
Not great.

642
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,880
He kind of felt like a reading.

643
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,880
Steve Buscemi definitely felt like he was just reading his lines.

644
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,880
Yeah, I took a photo of like a young Buscemi like lighting a cigarette.

645
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,880
Young Steve Buscemi. Good looking dude.

646
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,880
He's not terrible looking.

647
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:49,880
I mean, he looks like the kind of person who hangs out with us, but that doesn't really put him above anybody else.

648
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,880
I don't know. I said this to Meredith.

649
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,880
I mean, it's like, it kind of looks like you.

650
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,880
I'm like, yeah, maybe that's what I think.

651
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,880
That's the thing is I looked at that and I was like, that kind of looks like me if I have different facial hair.

652
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:59,880
That's not true.

653
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,880
You only look like Donald Kaufman.

654
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,880
Exactly.

655
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,880
Not Charlie.

656
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,880
Donald.

657
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,880
I lived bitches.

658
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,880
I went through a windshield at four in the morning.

659
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,880
I don't give a fuck.

660
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,880
All right.

661
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,880
I'm going to go with Joe this week.

662
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,880
Oh, yeah.

663
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Joe was such a good movie.

664
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,880
I'm glad we got to watch Zondaly.

665
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,880
I was very concerned about its status online.

666
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,880
I can see why it's got the gets reviews.

667
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,880
I was highly amused the entire time I watched it.

668
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,880
I don't think it's good.

669
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:36,880
No, it's melodrama.

670
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,880
It's made by a person who didn't end up doing anything.

671
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,880
And it's it feels like a film that really three motherfucker.

672
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,880
Yeah, I haven't seen a single free willy.

673
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,880
What is called three willy?

674
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,880
It's not.

675
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:49,880
It's a shame.

676
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,880
Yeah, I think Joe is clearly the better film in this.

677
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,880
Yeah, Joe was a great movie in the context of these two movies.

678
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,880
Joe was great.

679
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,880
What are we watching next time?

680
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,880
So next week, we've got some new guests with us and we are watching Mandy and Prisoners of the Ghostland.

681
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,880
Who are our guests?

682
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,880
Our guests are Alex and Sammy of Star Trek, the original siblings.

683
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,880
That's right.

684
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,880
And we are excited to have them.

685
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,880
It's going to be a fun time.

686
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,880
Yeah, they seem like cool people.

687
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,880
Unlike us.

688
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Thank you for listening.

689
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Please rate review.

690
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,880
If you want to chat with us, we're on.

691
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,880
Yeah, on Reddit, we are cage match pod on Patreon.

692
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:35,880
If you want to support us, we are just cage match and a special thanks to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam.

693
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,880
And extra special thanks to our cage dancers, Ira and John.

694
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,880
I don't have anything else.

695
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,880
We need something sexy to go out on.

696
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,880
What a plan.

697
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,880
What a plan.

698
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,880
What a plan.

699
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:57,880
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

700
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,880
You would know if it was my but.

701
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880
Because because it's a raucous party.

702
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,880
Because I'm a party dude.

703
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:13,880
Yeah, my butt's just like a scan, man.

704
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,880
That would be a hell of a party trick.

705
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,880
That would be so good.

706
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,880
I was just picturing it now.

707
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,880
Silently.

708
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,880
Now I'm just imagining you shitting your pants.

709
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Hey, man.

710
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,880
I haven't sharded once on any party Friday.

711
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,880
Yeah, I got massive control.

712
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,880
I pronounce one thing correctly in the other part of the word.

713
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,880
Say it wrong and right at the same time.

714
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:54,200
It's like a

715
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,880
guava.

716
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,880
That's bad.

717
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,880
Oh, yeah.

718
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,880
This literally just tastes like I drank a cigarette.

719
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,880
But, oh, but it gets nicer at the end.

720
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,880
This gets worse at the end.

721
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,880
Nicer than a cigarette, but not to say it's better in general.

722
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,880
This is not very good.

