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Oh god. Oh my god.

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I want to hear everything, too.

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Technically, you could turn it up at this point.

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I could, but then, you know.

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What are we paying you for? Yeah, that's true.

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Hand jobs. I pay you in compliments.

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No, you don't. I said you did a great.

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You do a great job. You did.

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Thank you. I feel good now.

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Oh, man.

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You guys ever see that video of the orangutan on the runaway segue?

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Oh, I thought you were going to talk about the monkey that has sex with a frog

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until it dies.

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I mean, you're just funnier.

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Oh, you haven't seen that.

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Yeah. Oh, man. I think into a love love.

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Yeah, it was at the zoo.

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He just like grabs it and like

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until the frog does or the monkey dies.

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The frog. Oh, I thought the monkey died.

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No, he's funnier if the monkey throws it to death and like right

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in front of a bunch of kids and stuff.

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Oh, man.

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Well, there goes my segue joke.

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Anyway, welcome back to Cage Match colon, a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with avid monkey lover.

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I'm Nick. And I love monkeys.

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And our producer.

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Peter, I don't love anything right now.

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You let us into your house, Peter.

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That's true. You kind of asked for this.

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I did. Yes. So this is Cage Match.

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It's 64 Nick Cage movies going head to head bracket style.

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We sort of seeded them and put them in different categories of funny,

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serious, fucking weird action.

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Yeah. Tough guy. That's okay.

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We kind of got two tough guys this week.

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Hey, thanks for noticing.

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I've been working out a little more.

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Hey, hi, yo.

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No, this is actually the funny bracket.

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Yeah. Oh, God.

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Really?

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How do you think it was the tough guy bracket?

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I just rewatched The Trust and it is not funny.

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Oh, it's hilarious.

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It has its moments.

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At least two thirds of it is hilarious.

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Yeah. And there's sprinklings of great even after that.

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Well, go on.

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Why don't we just get right into it then?

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The Trust starring Nicholas Cage and Elijah Wood.

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Banger of it.

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What was your favorite Elijah Wood movie?

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Currently, The Trust.

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It's up there. It really is.

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I mean, I love Elijah Wood.

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I always have. He's always got a lot of stuff.

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He gives a great performance in everything.

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Yeah, like I think I'm maybe one of the only people in the world

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that liked North, but that really stood out to me.

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And this is all like the biography of Kanye's kid, right?

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Correct. Yeah.

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Kanye's kid is Elijah Wood.

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He plays Northwest.

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Correct. OK.

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So The Trust and Nicholas Cage and Elijah Wood play two evidence room

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cops working in Las Vegas, going nowhere fast.

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Elijah Wood's life sucks.

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So does Nicholas Cage.

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Nick Cage's level with his dad played by Jerry Lewis, of all people.

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Yeah. Who would have guessed he was still doing things?

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Well, he wasn't after this movie because then he died.

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Yeah. I mean, I thought he was dead before this.

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Yeah. Peter and I had talked about that.

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We're like, did you know Jerry Lewis was alive in 2016?

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Well, I mean, I read that they like had to have him.

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It's got to be Jerry Lewis.

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Why? He doesn't do fucking anything.

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OK. Yeah. And we're friends.

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And apparently, Nick Cage just wanted to be in a movie with him.

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So asked him to.

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Nicholas Cage plays Jim Stone and Elijah Wood plays Waters.

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He has a first name, too, but it's David.

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Oh, David. It's Elijah Waters.

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Elijah Waters.

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They know each other better than Elijah Woods.

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I'm a pro. There's also Elijah Wind.

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Elijah Hart.

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Oh, you beat me to it.

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By your powers combined, I am a decent character actor.

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Yeah. Have you watched his episode of Hot Ones?

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It's really good.

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I mean, I like Hot Ones.

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Yeah. Easy show to watch.

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It's interesting because he really speaks with reverence

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about Nick Cage and that performance and what he brings to the table.

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And I feel like that's pretty consistent narrative across the board.

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Yeah. Well, what I saw, I was only able to find one interview about this film,

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and it was just Elijah Wood and the director.

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And Elijah Wood was just talking about how he'd always wanted to work with the cage

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and how, you know, consummate, professional and great

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and brought a lot of energy to the performance.

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Fun fact, they had two days to read and rehearse the script before filming started.

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Well, he nailed it then, because Nick Cage's character

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I thought was very well performed.

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I thought both of them were great.

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Well, yes. But we're here to talk about Nick.

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Yeah. For a 2016 film starring Nicholas Cage,

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the production values on this were good.

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His mustaches were great.

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The mustache was great.

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His acting was peak good.

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Cage overall, really good cage.

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I was a little disappointed that Ethan Suppley didn't have a mustache, too.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Ethan Suppley.

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So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, yeah, the film revolves around these two discovering a drug dealer

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has a safe at the back of a convenience store, and they decide to rob it

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for no particular reason other than their lives aren't great.

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And why not?

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They're just shitty cops.

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But to be fair, all the cops in this movie are shitty.

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I feel like we watched movies at very different energy levels on this one.

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I'll get you to the same point.

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Spin this for me.

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OK, so we've got two evidence cops

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not not living their best lives.

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Elijah Wood, we start out the movie with him

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just banging a prostitute and sex worker.

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Thank you lifelessly staring at the mole underneath her mammary gland.

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Is that how we're doing it now?

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I like that you covered that one left it.

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Yes, sir. Left it and

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smoking a joint jumping out.

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And that's when we find out, like as he's getting dressed, that he's a cop

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and Nicholas Gage, he's on scene.

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And there's like there's like a body and everybody's like, you know,

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walking around picking up the evidence and then out of the closet.

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But this other guy who's just knocking people down

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and Elijah Woods all stoned and he's just laughing on the ground

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as everybody goes chasing this dude.

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The one guy gets punched in the balls.

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Yeah, Bert, Bert, Bert, Bert.

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You all right, Bert? Fuck you.

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So that's how we get introduced to him.

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Nicholas Cage's character is like petitioning to get all this new

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like evidence technology stuff.

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And the captain and the commander are just like passing him back and forth

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basically, just like neither of them wanting to do anything about it.

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But then like the the captain sends him down to the police auction

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to like secure a tractor for his son in law

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because he just doesn't want to hit the auction.

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It's like this movie's fucking hit the whole cylinder.

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It's great. I was just trying to get the overall plot out of the overall plot.

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So we can fucking cares about that.

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Discuss the finer points of this film,

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like how to hide drugs in an engine block.

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Fine summaries. Nicholas Cage is dealing with this thing with engine block guy.

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And they find all this cocaine and Nicholas Cage takes a look at the paperwork

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that came in with this car that had all the cocaine in it.

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Got all the cocaine hidden in it and sees like this guy who had the car

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he had posted bail and it was like two hundred thousand dollars

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and it was posted in cash and he's like, well, that seems suspicious.

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So he looks into it more and gets Elijah Wood involved.

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And they start like tailing this drug dealer because he's out on bail

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and they see that he's got a job and at this hotel,

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Nicholas, you know, plays Elijah Woods boss and probably best only friend.

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Yeah, I think it's about like that.

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They seem to only have each other.

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They decided to make cage does a sweet montage

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where he gets an undercover job at the casino.

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And there's just like shots of him like making friends with everybody

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and dancing in the break room and like carrying

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platters of like cheeseburgers and like turning corners

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and like tipping it all over the place and having like the whoa

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inside of himself.

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Oh, so then they find out that like there's these shipments

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leaving the casino and nobody would let him like near it

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because it was, you know, involving the drug dealer guy.

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And so Nick Cage follows this van one night

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and sees where it's going with this delivery.

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And then he calls up Elijah Wood and.

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All right, this is when he shows him the Polaroids. Yeah.

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And so they go and they're just out back of this convenience store

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and he's showing them around and there's these pictures and Elijah Woods.

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Like these pictures are terrible.

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Would you have like a homeless guy take him and hit cages?

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Just like, well, I wasn't going to do it.

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I paid him a little. Yeah.

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Just all right. All right.

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They just the mental justification that you see in their eyes.

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It's like, well, he was paid, so it's probably fine.

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And that's when they find out that there's this vault, a creepy locked up.

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They find the locked up

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chair lock and freezer.

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Yeah. And there was something else they see, and I couldn't quite make it out

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in the photo, but it was a penis.

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That was a penis. Yeah.

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Yeah. Did you wait? Did you not get that?

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I did not see that. Oh, no.

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The homeless guy took a picture down his pants.

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Oh, no. And it was just homeless. That's amazing.

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Yeah. That's why Nick Cage was like, you found it.

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That's pretty good.

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I mean, Nick Cage is Nick Cage's sense of humor in this is so good.

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He's he's got like such dad jokes.

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Oh, man. He's just always pulling little pranks on Elijah Wood.

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Well, OK, so let's get into that a little bit,

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because one of my favorite lines in this is what it's Elijah Wood quote,

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but they're at the strip club where they're first starting to like

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brainstorm the heist and they're sitting down

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and they're looking down this bar and Elijah Wood just goes.

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I think that guy's getting a hand job, but he's still eating.

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So it's hard to tell.

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Yeah. I love what he sat down in this strip club.

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And he's just looking around.

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He's like, where did you bring me?

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And Nick Cage is just drinking coffee and can't get a refill.

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Classic. There is a lot about this movie.

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I really do enjoy mostly involving the two of them.

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They have great chemistry and a lot of fun playing off each other

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for the heist when they find that there's a safe there.

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They have to get, you know, the diamond tipped drill bit to drill

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through what 12 inches of concrete.

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It was three feet or something like that.

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And then 12 inches is nothing.

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I could drill through 12 inches of concrete.

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It was also steel that they had to drill through.

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Well, concrete and steel, wasn't it?

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Yeah, but concrete doesn't concrete. Nothing.

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I don't work in the trades.

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Crime. Yes.

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Crime trades.

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So when he has to call Cologne, Germany to like place this order

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and the two Germans are on the other end of the phone and Nick Cage,

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you know, goes from German to yeah, I'll have my people call you.

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When someone walks into his office, one of the Germans turns the other

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and says, you know, he's acting weird.

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Maybe he's a bank robber.

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The first guy goes, so cool. Yeah.

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Yeah, I like those Germans. Yeah.

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Yeah, those were good Germans.

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The first half, you know, the first act of this film has its

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has its wackiness and as they set up for the caper.

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And that quickly goes away when Nick Cage just murders a guy.

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Yeah, there's like this weird sub level of Cage's character.

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So like just dark and determined in this going out

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and just telling jokes with the gun dealer, like as he's picking up guns

250
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for their little heist and then he's just like intentionally antagonizing

251
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this guy just to like drive his attention like away from Cage

252
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while Cage like discreetly loads a gun and shoots the gun dealer

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like right there and just leaves him and it's like wild.

254
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One thing I do want to talk about this film first time feature film directors

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back there only film to date.

256
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They have another movie coming out next year with Nicolas Cage.

257
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The attention to like detail in this film, the show don't tell of their storytelling.

258
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As you were saying, when he kills the guy, he's trying to distract him

259
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with buffoonery and is wearing glasses for the first time.

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He takes out his like glasses, casing glasses, and that's where he's hidden

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the bullets to just shoot the guy in the head.

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Also, how he finds out about Bobo, the gun dealer, because they work in evidence.

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So he just went and found a gun in evidence,

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tracked down the case file and found who it was on and then reached out to that guy.

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I know it feels like if you were a cop, you would have a ton of intel

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to do like a good crime and and they did.

267
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I mean, they had a ton of good intel to do a crime.

268
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OK, actually, you know what? They did do a good crime.

269
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They could have totally they were just bad at doing a good crime.

270
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Well, Elijah Wood was bad at having a conscience.

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Yeah, he or being too afraid. Exactly.

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He was too afraid.

273
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I mean, that Cage was fully willing to just kill another cop

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would just happen to like come upon them.

275
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That was a security guard cop is a little term.

276
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That was a security guard. Yeah. All right.

277
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Yeah. He's just always fucking with Elijah.

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But I love it.

279
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Like when he like plays like he didn't get the van for the heist.

280
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Like I thought you were going to do it.

281
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Oh, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know.

282
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I guess I goofed up.

283
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It's like I goofed up.

284
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You realize we might get killed tomorrow, right?

285
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Just throws the keys out there.

286
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Yeah, they have terrific, terrific chemistry between the two.

287
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It was just a joke, just a little pre-heist joke.

288
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But I mean, ultimately, it's that always fucking with Elijah Wood

289
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that becomes Nick Cage's downfall.

290
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The way they're going to break in is through the apartment above the safe.

291
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Mm hmm. So they have to like take out the guy who lives there.

292
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But turns out he had a lady friend over.

293
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That guy gets killed and the lady friend is now hostage.

294
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So now they have this hostage who gets three lines of dialogue.

295
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Three lines of dialogue besides Snivellane.

296
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Yeah, her character name is just woman.

297
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Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, she's only there to be a plot device.

298
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They eventually start drilling.

299
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Security guard shows up.

300
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Elijah Wood talks him down. Nick Cage almost shoots him.

301
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They get into the safe.

302
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Discreetly. Almost almost shoots him.

303
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Discreetly through the window, through the blinds, just sort of split.

304
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One of the later little comedy scenes is the belt on the press breaks.

305
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So they have to like so Nick Cage makes a little incendiary device

306
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to like put in the hole to like blow out the last like half an inch.

307
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And there Elijah was just throwing mattresses

308
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and whatever he can over the windows, then goes outside to have a smoke

309
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and sees like what happens from the street and just just big flash of light.

310
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Smoke alarms are going off.

311
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Alarms going off.

312
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But in premise, that would work. Yeah, it does.

313
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Yeah. Well, it does, because it's a movie.

314
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But the science behind it works, because it's the same as like

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how you would build like a flash pot or a concussion pot.

316
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Peter, call the Mythbusters, get them in on this.

317
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I feel like they don't do as many crimes as we want them to.

318
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They should have done crimes.

319
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They've been great at crime.

320
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Fuck. Can you imagine how much stuff they would have gotten away with?

321
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And they're just like, now this is for a show.

322
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And like Jamie just hang glides away.

323
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Oh, my God. Let's talk about this.

324
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I love heists.

325
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I thought we were going to talk about hang gliders.

326
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Now we have to do that again. Thanks to you.

327
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Yeah, it's going to be awesome.

328
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But I love heists.

329
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All things heists, even bad heists.

330
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I love them. Heiser, great.

331
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Cool crimes.

332
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I enjoy cool crimes as well.

333
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And not cool crimes.

334
00:16:12,340 --> 00:16:15,760
Well, I'm on the fence about the not cool crimes.

335
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,000
Well, what would be a not cool crime?

336
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Not reviewing this podcast.

337
00:16:22,780 --> 00:16:24,940
Oh, yeah. That's a not cool crime.

338
00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:27,800
You should all get out there on your podcast.

339
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Reviewing this podcast, but not listening to it.

340
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,040
Oh, yeah. Yeah, whatever.

341
00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,740
Yeah. So it's a it's a great old heist film.

342
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Well, it's a heist film.

343
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Yeah. When they finally get into the vault, it's not drugs or money

344
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necessary, like to hear white room with little shelves full of diamonds.

345
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Yeah, that's a pretty high tech vault.

346
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Yeah, it was pretty wild.

347
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But also like, OK, so here's a rub question.

348
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If you have a vault that's that high tech,

349
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can you really just see the backs of the tumblers?

350
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Wouldn't that be something you would cover up inside the door or something?

351
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,440
Yeah, man. Yeah, I don't know.

352
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That was weird.

353
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It was strange because like when I was watching it originally,

354
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I was like, yeah, they drilled in like to like the wall portion of it

355
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so they could see the tumblers inside.

356
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But they don't.

357
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Yeah, because they obviously showed the hole in the ceiling.

358
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Like, yeah, that would have been inches back from the door.

359
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That would have made a million times more sense

360
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if they had gotten into the door itself.

361
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I saw behind the scene.

362
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Yeah, I think you were intentionally supposed to go along for the ride with them.

363
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That they're just bumbling idiots.

364
00:17:36,820 --> 00:17:41,060
I think you fill that vault with water and you flood all the treasure up the hole.

365
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Ooh, the dollar bills like float through that.

366
00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:45,420
Yeah, definitely.

367
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Inch wide hole.

368
00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:51,300
Well, that's why you get like a plumbing snake and you just snake them all out.

369
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This is smart.

370
00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:55,500
Yeah. Then you back for our next podcast.

371
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Nick and Sean steal a podcast.

372
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The brilliant thing about this plan is the money is all pre laundered.

373
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Oh, God, no one's going to listen to that.

374
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,280
So they have a witness.

375
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They need to take her out.

376
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,280
This is when Elijah would start to get super cagey that and clearly

377
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this isn't just a drug dealer.

378
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These are people who will track them down and kill them.

379
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I understand his fear and reticence, but they are so far past the veil with that.

380
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Like there's a dead guy upstairs, a lot of guns in that apartment,

381
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like in a hidden wall, and they were in the safe.

382
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Even when Elijah would puts everything back into the safe,

383
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he thinks he's just like no one's going to know he was there.

384
00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:38,780
Yeah, like there's no way he put the diamonds back in the right spot.

385
00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:39,480
Yeah, any of that.

386
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There's a fucking hole in the ceiling.

387
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There's a hole in the ceiling.

388
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The leads to a bunch of dead folks.

389
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The chain that had the refrigerator closed is also like cut.

390
00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:50,320
Right. There's a dead guy upstairs.

391
00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:52,220
Yeah, there's all sorts of reasons.

392
00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:54,460
The upstairs is mildly blown up.

393
00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:58,040
Yeah. When you guys were in college, did you did you live in the dorms?

394
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Yeah. I think go to college all 30.

395
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,400
All right. That would have been sad.

396
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,800
Yeah, that would have been sad. Van Wilder said so.

397
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,040
Van Wilder to the rise of Taj said patching up holes in a dorm

398
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is just like you put toothpaste in the hole and then kind of like smooch.

399
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And that's it.

400
00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:18,220
Yeah. So I think that's all they had to do is a little sweep,

401
00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:20,680
a little toothpaste smudge. Good.

402
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,380
Well, that guy. Don't worry about it.

403
00:19:22,380 --> 00:19:25,580
So they'll just put the rug back over the hole and.

404
00:19:26,420 --> 00:19:27,460
It's perfect. Yeah.

405
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Tape tape a rug to the ceiling.

406
00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:31,060
That's that's clever, actually.

407
00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:35,000
Never see it, especially if you just screw a bunch of furniture to the ceiling,

408
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,460
because then they'll like walk in and they'll be like, wow,

409
00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:42,840
and then like have a panic attack and probably a heart attack.

410
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,240
And Elijah was trying to get the kids back out of this point.

411
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Nick Cage is like, you know, it's you know, fine.

412
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You know how much I believe in us.

413
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You know, I bought us plane tickets to the Bahamas.

414
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We're going to drink rum and smoke cigars tomorrow.

415
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:55,660
And then they have a bit of a shootout.

416
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Nick Cage dies, which I thought was another freak out.

417
00:19:58,260 --> 00:20:01,360
I thought it was too, based on how he was laying there.

418
00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,040
Yeah. Just calmly with the gun and his hand resting on his chest.

419
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,500
I mean, I would have just shot him one more time just to be safe

420
00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:11,640
because he does do a death fake out earlier just to spook Elijah Wood.

421
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,440
Yeah. And then goes to check his body.

422
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,680
And what does he find? Two plane tickets.

423
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,520
Peter and I mildly discussed this.

424
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,820
They kind of do this thing where Nick Cage may have known

425
00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:24,660
that safe was like diamonds originally.

426
00:20:24,660 --> 00:20:27,960
There's a lot of questions that this movie leaves you with.

427
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,420
Does it serve the movie at all that those questions are there

428
00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:32,060
other than to just have them at odds?

429
00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:33,860
So Nick Cage dies.

430
00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:37,300
No, I don't think the movie is better for it.

431
00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:40,940
I think having some answers as to like who

432
00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:44,040
whose vault was this? You never know.

433
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240
Yeah. It's not even the drug dealer's vault.

434
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,540
He wasn't personally driving stuff here.

435
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:51,520
Yeah. It was just getting shipped through the casino

436
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,880
in like a laundry service to the back of this bodega.

437
00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:59,020
Yeah. My puzzling aspect of this is that I just couldn't figure out

438
00:20:59,020 --> 00:21:03,220
when Cage really like knew more and withheld it.

439
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,820
Like, did he always know that this was going on?

440
00:21:05,820 --> 00:21:07,160
Did he even need to do that?

441
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,060
Like casino fake out job or did he already fucking know?

442
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:13,340
And that was just performance for Elijah Wood.

443
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:14,540
Like who wasn't there anyway?

444
00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:15,800
And he couldn't just said he was doing it.

445
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,800
Yeah, I don't know.

446
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,640
That's yeah.

447
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,240
When I again, rewatching it today, I was like, what is any of this?

448
00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:25,180
So during the during the should have been ending in the beginning.

449
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,280
Classic move. Yeah. For us. Yeah.

450
00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:31,420
Strike one. That's Tenet style.

451
00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:35,220
During the heist, Elijah Wood feels bad for their hostage.

452
00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:38,260
She's like, I have a son. Let me, you know, call his father.

453
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,600
And his perfect way of her not calling anyone for help was write the number

454
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on my hand and I'll dial.

455
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,840
And then doesn't say anything to people.

456
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,540
Just puts the phone up to her ear and she just says, I need help.

457
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And then at the end of the film, Elijah was like driving her out to the desert.

458
00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:55,420
Some like cargo vans.

459
00:21:55,420 --> 00:22:00,080
Yeah. Out of nowhere, too, because they do seem like very large establishing shots.

460
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,120
Yeah. And there's no other traffic anywhere.

461
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,420
Yeah. And they kind of surround him like, but then two vans.

462
00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:07,120
They got two vans on one in the front, one in the back.

463
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:09,300
And then another guy like boxed him in on the side.

464
00:22:09,460 --> 00:22:12,660
And Elijah would look at his hand, looks at the phone number on the back of the van.

465
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It's like, who did you call?

466
00:22:14,140 --> 00:22:16,340
Van door opens. Elijah would get shot in the head.

467
00:22:16,340 --> 00:22:17,140
Yeah. But OK.

468
00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:19,980
So the van is labeled M.D.B.

469
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electricians, which literally just looks like mob.

470
00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:24,880
It's like, oh, yeah.

471
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,980
OK, I guess that's supposed to be the fucking mob.

472
00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:30,480
Elijah would slumps over car revs.

473
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,180
She, you know, gets her hands free and takes the mask off,

474
00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:35,540
pushes him out of the way, jumps in the front.

475
00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:39,020
Revealing that she is actually Nicholas Cage.

476
00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:40,380
Yes, that would have been cool.

477
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:41,520
That would have been cooler.

478
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,080
She like just hits the brakes right before like careening into a semi truck.

479
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,760
And that's the end of the movie.

480
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600
The character who didn't have a name and nobody cared about lived.

481
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,000
Yeah. Well, I mean, she obviously was just agent number two or whatever

482
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,900
from whoever the fuck owns that vault.

483
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:57,900
But we don't know who owns that vault.

484
00:22:57,900 --> 00:22:58,900
So why do we care?

485
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:02,280
If we don't care now, we're not going to care later.

486
00:23:02,380 --> 00:23:07,740
This whole thing felt to me like it deserved to be like a 12 part TV show.

487
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,780
Yeah, this would be a great like Amazon series.

488
00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:13,020
Mm hmm. Their report is good.

489
00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:16,020
Yeah. And I could see how that could really play out on TV.

490
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:18,120
But obviously, Cage doesn't do TV.

491
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It's the the grind of working on an episodic series.

492
00:23:22,020 --> 00:23:25,920
That's something that can be dragged out or like prolonged,

493
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960
like numerous seasons, he doesn't like to be chained down.

494
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,220
That's right. He doesn't like to be caged.

495
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,000
Oh, God damn it.

496
00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:38,400
This is our best episode yet.

497
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,540
I hate you guys less than I thought I would.

498
00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:43,240
Hmm. Nick, do you have any quotes?

499
00:23:43,580 --> 00:23:48,840
Yeah. So I've got two and they are kind of tied together.

500
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,220
The first one comes from when Nick Cage is like barging

501
00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:57,220
into the casino to go talk to the drug dealer.

502
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320
And Elijah Wood like stops him.

503
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,920
He's like, hey, man, you're dressed like a cop.

504
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,160
You can't do that. And Nick Cage is like, I am a cop.

505
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,160
And he's like, yeah, but you can't just do that right now.

506
00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:12,400
And so Nick Cage just at one point turns and he's like, David, David,

507
00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:15,560
stay positive, dude.

508
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,040
Oh, that's great.

509
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,300
But then at the end of the movie, when he's like getting Elijah Wood

510
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:27,320
kind of hyped up and stuff for the heist, he says to him,

511
00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:28,840
you're a positive thinker.

512
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,180
I respect you and I dig you.

513
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,920
It's like, ah, he brings the positive thinking like all the way through the movie.

514
00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:39,820
Yeah. Well, no, that line was from or he might have said it twice,

515
00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:43,760
because mine was when they are walking through the taped out apartment

516
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,900
and Nicholas Cage. Oh, yes, that's what it was.

517
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:48,800
You're a positive thinker and I respect you.

518
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,400
And I fucking dig you.

519
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,740
Yeah, I really like in that scene.

520
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,500
There's one like wiggly line and the cage is like, what?

521
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,940
What's that over there?

522
00:24:58,940 --> 00:25:00,780
And Elijah Wood goes, Oh, that's nothing.

523
00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:03,080
A bee flew in my face when I was doing that part.

524
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:07,180
I mean, this movie is so ridiculous.

525
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,320
I don't remember where this quote actually came in,

526
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,780
because I didn't do a good job of my job.

527
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,500
And all I have is I have an idea.

528
00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:19,320
It's kind of wacky.

529
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,160
That's when he makes a little like gunpowder.

530
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,060
Oh, yeah, that's right.

531
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:27,600
But yeah, when he just says it's a little bit wacky.

532
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,860
All in all, I enjoyed this film.

533
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:34,160
I did look up some reviews on Rotten Tomatoes to see what other people thought.

534
00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:36,700
They enjoyed it a little less.

535
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:38,900
I want to share with you a couple of my favorites.

536
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:41,440
There are fetuses that would be more convincing in the role

537
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,280
of a jaded lawman than would.

538
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,240
You can festoon him with hookers and drug paraphernalia.

539
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,080
He still looks like a newly hatched baby bird.

540
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,380
Wood, a very long way removed from his Lord of the Rings glory days

541
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:57,280
is a womanizing, drug taking small timer,

542
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,580
essentially decent, but easily led astray by his friend.

543
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,860
They're on the road to nowhere.

544
00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:05,320
And that's where this film is headed to.

545
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,060
Mean. Yeah.

546
00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:09,560
Where do you guys put this on the Good Cage?

547
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Good movie. Bad Cage.

548
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,960
I would say Good Cage. Good movie.

549
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,400
Yeah, I think that's fair.

550
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,760
I enjoyed the movie a lot.

551
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Yeah. I don't think anybody put up a bad performance.

552
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,180
Now in the plot, while kind of wiggly at the end,

553
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,040
holds up pretty well.

554
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,940
Again, the director for, you know, good, great eye for detail.

555
00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:34,120
So in the bracket methodology of this, the trust was a 14 seed.

556
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,380
So I want to ask you this kind of a long shot.

557
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,960
There's a reason that this is not rated super, super well.

558
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,820
I think I liked it better than a 14 seed.

559
00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:45,520
But what were some of the other 14s we've seen?

560
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,400
And Cock Dangerous, the trust and coming up Zandily and Prisoners of the Ghostland.

561
00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:55,200
Now, I'm really excited for Zandily or Zandali because Zendaya.

562
00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:58,900
I'm not going to touch that right now,

563
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:03,400
because I'm going to talk about the medium sex scenes that are promised.

564
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Yeah, I feel like we get some Judge Reinhold ass.

565
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Yeah. So I think that's going to be sweet. Yeah.

566
00:27:12,980 --> 00:27:14,580
So the unbearable weight of massive talent.

567
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:16,360
Mm hmm. That was a movie.

568
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,920
Starting a line right out of Sean's book.

569
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,360
I was a movie starring Nicholas Cage and you need a much longer pause

570
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,260
if you're being Sean.

571
00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:30,300
Nicholas Cage plays Nick Kim Coppola.

572
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:31,660
Right. Or Nick and I.

573
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:35,880
C.K. and I.C.K. specifically specifically, which was the writers.

574
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,340
Things like, well, this is a fictional cage because he spells his name differently.

575
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720
And this which is the best way to distinguish something

576
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,180
that you don't spell at all in the movie. Yeah.

577
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,080
This movie is essentially what would happen if we had a million dollars to blow.

578
00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:52,760
The whole thing about Nicholas Cage showing up for a million dollars

579
00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:56,800
might be true because in recent years, he's taken as low as one point five mil

580
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,520
for a video on demand film.

581
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,020
So, you know, his price is coming down.

582
00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:01,560
What was the video on demand?

583
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,000
I mean, most of the things he's video on demand, I suppose, left behind

584
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,640
probably should have been.

585
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,260
No, that got theatrical release.

586
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:10,500
I know. But that's because of the Lord.

587
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,460
But I'm humanity. Oh, oh.

588
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:15,900
Again, in this house, we worship Thor.

589
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,340
Hail, mighty Thor. Not at your house, though.

590
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,440
Do you just choose what deities we can worship on our own homes?

591
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,580
Yes. My house.

592
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:26,420
All right. Who do we worship in your house?

593
00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:28,040
Probably Thor. Yeah. Right.

594
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,020
Come gutters. That's God you want.

595
00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:32,360
Yeah, I always.

596
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,360
That's why I love Catholic Jesus.

597
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,860
That's a that's a horny deity.

598
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:39,120
Fucking crucifixion, man, is a hell of a core workout.

599
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,340
Also, best friend sex worker.

600
00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:44,020
True classic Jesus. Pretty fucking cool, dude.

601
00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:45,120
All right. We need to get a million.

602
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,580
We need to get one point five million dollars.

603
00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:48,780
Do the story of Jesus starting Nicholas Cage.

604
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,660
Oh, man. Redo the passion of the Christ.

605
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,500
Passion of the cage. Yeah.

606
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,900
So this movie Nicholas Cage,

607
00:28:57,140 --> 00:29:01,540
bit of a slump in his career, gets offered a million dollars

608
00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:05,800
to go visit some rich guy for his birthday party played by Pedro Pascal.

609
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,940
The guy is Cage's agent is Neil Patrick Harris.

610
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,300
Neil Patrick Harris in things is weird.

611
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,680
He spent so much of his career playing

612
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,740
Neil Patrick Harris as a character that I no longer see him in any role as an actor.

613
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Yeah, it's kind of like when you hear a word so many times

614
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:29,420
and it just loses its meaning or like, oh, man, have you ever written a word?

615
00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:33,200
Worker. No, but written a word or typed it out a bunch of times.

616
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:35,200
Yeah. Just ceases to be anything.

617
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Well, for me, it's like if I do something in all caps,

618
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:43,780
if I look at a word in all caps, like it's like that can't possibly be the right word.

619
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,040
I remember way fucking back when I was in grade school

620
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,120
and we were learning basic programming and there's a function

621
00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:56,380
that's just print and it will print a string onto the screen.

622
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,260
Look at you, Mr. Basic Programming in grade school.

623
00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:02,360
Yeah. Well, I was pretty fancy looking at the word

624
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760
print again and again and again.

625
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,800
It just it becomes like this cipher when you're like, what the fuck are these letters?

626
00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:13,200
What is this thing?

627
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,240
My grade school was a wooden school

628
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,020
house across the street from a Holly farm that also had Guinea hens.

629
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:25,380
And sometimes the Guinea hens would get into the field at our school.

630
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:31,480
We had a bell tower and it was, of course, physically rung to end recess.

631
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,820
So like you could go in and like go ring the bell if you left recess early.

632
00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:38,720
Was it like a privilege to go ring the bell?

633
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Yeah. Yeah. Because usually only like one kid got to do it.

634
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,840
So like I would I would get in trouble because I would stack

635
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,140
like a bunch of desks and chairs and stuff in this back room.

636
00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:51,500
And I'd climb up it and I'd get as high up on the rope as I could.

637
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,140
So that way they'd have trouble getting me off of it.

638
00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:56,380
You do have a quasi moto vibe to you.

639
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,120
And I'm here for it.

640
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,220
Yeah. And I would just like hang from this rope and like swing

641
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:05,120
and they'd come in because there's just like they'd be like,

642
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,360
the bells are too loud.

643
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,220
You're annoying the neighbors.

644
00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:09,900
There are no neighbors.

645
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,120
We're in the fucking woods.

646
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,500
This is weird.

647
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:13,960
Your guys's life experience.

648
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,960
I do not get because I went to school in the big city

649
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,240
and we had one ball and you tried not to get stabbed at recess.

650
00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:25,340
One time I rolled a snowball that was bigger than me

651
00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:27,580
and we had two fields at my school.

652
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:29,580
So we were up on the top field

653
00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:33,380
and we were going to roll it down into the lower field.

654
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:35,420
And I was like, sweet.

655
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:36,280
So we get it rolling.

656
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,960
I'm like, you know, it'd be so cool.

657
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,220
People lose their fucking minds if I rode this thing down.

658
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,600
So I jumped on it as it was going downhill and it just fucking threw me

659
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,360
and just needed me into a swing set.

660
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:52,600
And I just laid there like that was fucking cool.

661
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:55,340
Oh, I want to sort of go further where like the swing

662
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:59,200
set launched you onto the slide, which launched you onto like the merry go

663
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,980
around. No back onto the snowball.

664
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,480
I'm like, baby, day out type shit. Yeah.

665
00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:06,640
It just embeds me halfway into the snowball and then I'm

666
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:11,060
it's just my legs and the snowball is like walking around like all confused

667
00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:13,680
until I walk into a wall and it splits and I'm there

668
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
and there's little birds floating around my head.

669
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,200
I'm not a fucking cartoon.

670
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,260
I'm a real person with real experiences.

671
00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:21,700
Sean, just respect my life.

672
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,560
I think we're going to end on that.

673
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840
That's it. We got it, guys. Good job.

674
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,600
Yeah, that's the end of the podcast.

675
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,580
We have just totally broken.

676
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:32,080
So tune in.

677
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,880
This is how Nick and I shopping friends tune into Nick and Sean

678
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,020
steal a podcast.

679
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,820
Yeah, we're still going to do podcast, just not this one anymore.

680
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Apparently, Baby's Day out was a reference too far for me.

681
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,500
You know, I feel about children and I beams.

682
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,200
No, the best of talent.

683
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,860
Did you guys like this movie?

684
00:32:55,860 --> 00:33:00,800
I found myself laughing out loud the entire time.

685
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Nicholas Cage has an imaginary version of himself

686
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,580
that like talks to him and hypes him up and keeps him on track.

687
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:12,320
And it's just like the old Nicholas Cage interview

688
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,080
where he like goes on and he's like, hella coked out,

689
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,160
like he takes his shirt off and like has to reposition his mic

690
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,620
on his leather jacket.

691
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:23,000
And he's doing like karate kicks and stuff.

692
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,700
That young Nicholas Cage is now his internal hype man.

693
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:28,440
It's his ego.

694
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,500
But he like gets into an argument with it.

695
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:34,140
Yeah. Or with him on the road and like stops his car

696
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:36,900
and tells his imaginary friend to get out of his car.

697
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080
It's insane how funny this movie is.

698
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,880
Now, this movie is hilarious.

699
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,080
In my opinion, let down by the third act referencing that adding a dumb

700
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560
action movie to the end of your film isn't a good film.

701
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
And then doing it doesn't save from not being a good action film.

702
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:55,460
I think I think the action sequence would have been better served

703
00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:57,860
if Nick Cage didn't just immediately become an action star

704
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,640
because he does straight up murder some people and doesn't blink an eye.

705
00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:05,940
My favorite part is like Pedro Pascal and Nick Cage running through the woods.

706
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:07,540
They look like old dudes.

707
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:09,720
Yeah, they're like, oh, they are.

708
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:11,180
Shagging down the hill.

709
00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:15,680
And like you play that up like fuck the action hero aspect of this.

710
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920
And that's what's kind of my thing with it is, yeah,

711
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,420
it just gets to generic action movie within this genre of actors

712
00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:24,300
playing themselves in absurd situations.

713
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,460
There's a great little film called My Name is Bruce about Bruce Campbell

714
00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:31,800
playing Bruce Campbell down on his luck and is offered a bit of money

715
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,900
to make a public appearance, but gets there.

716
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:37,500
And it turns out the town is like haunted by a demon.

717
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:39,180
And they're like, you're Bruce Campbell.

718
00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:41,520
Deal with this. And he's like, fuck you.

719
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,920
And is a bumbling buffoon the whole way, but still bumbles his way to success

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,780
and just doesn't become Ash at the end.

721
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,320
And yeah, Nick Cage just becomes Action Cage at the end of this with no bumbling.

722
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,500
More bumbling was, I feel, required.

723
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,260
I feel like we had the bumbling.

724
00:34:56,260 --> 00:35:00,100
And I think this movie needed the action elements

725
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:04,200
because it just rounded out like everything from his career.

726
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,840
Like all of it was present in the movie.

727
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:09,740
If you didn't have that bit of it.

728
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,820
But then so the end of the film, they do the like

729
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:17,920
fake out into the premiere of the film based on these events.

730
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:22,180
It could have been great if by just dumb luck and just him being an actor,

731
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:25,820
but not being a good action guy that, you know, they do get there.

732
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:30,020
And then it cuts into this absurd moment where he does kill the drug kingpin.

733
00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:32,640
And then it pulls back like, oh, that was the movie.

734
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040
But anyway, so Nick in this cage goes,

735
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,100
goes to Majorca to meet his biggest fan.

736
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,580
Oh, man, because we did not recap this jump in straight to the end of the movie.

737
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:43,360
Giving it all away.

738
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,720
Yeah, but this is the second half, so we're not doing it in the first five minutes.

739
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,800
That's true. We've done a much better job.

740
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,740
So Pedro Pascal plays hobby, a huge Nick Cage fan who has written

741
00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:57,200
a script and wants Nicholas Cage to star in it.

742
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880
But Nick Cage loses out on the role of a lifetime.

743
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,680
I'm using air quotes there and decides he's done acting.

744
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,680
He was going to be a Boston cop, though,

745
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,980
and we know he could have fucking nailed that.

746
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Yeah. OK.

747
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,580
So I want to know if like in the greater

748
00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:16,460
audience ship of Nicholas Cage, like, is it just a thing

749
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,800
that he only does like a Boston accent?

750
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Probably. Well, because when he just says that he's been working

751
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,840
on the Boston accent and he thinks he's really got it,

752
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,900
it just felt like that was targeted at me.

753
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,780
And how many times I've talked about his Boston accent.

754
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:33,900
Maybe for sure.

755
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:36,700
It did feel like we tapped into something on that.

756
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:40,160
To that, I do want to say I hadn't seen this movie until now.

757
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,460
Right. Same. And we got a lot of shit for this.

758
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:44,740
Like, how can you call yourself Nick Cage hands without seeing this film?

759
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:47,000
Like, we're going to fucking watch them all. We get to it.

760
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,100
Yeah. And I feel like I appreciate this movie more having watched

761
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,520
a bunch of Nick Cage films, like when they do the Leaving Las Vegas moment,

762
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,340
when Nick Cage is at his lowest and he just takes his beer

763
00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:59,280
and just walks right into the pool, straight out of leaving Las Vegas.

764
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:02,560
Fun story with the director, like directing him through that scene.

765
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,760
Nick Cage goes, Yeah, I've done this before.

766
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,440
But so it turns out when Nick Cage gets to Mallorca,

767
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040
we're giving we're making Peter do so much work.

768
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,800
No, he's given up.

769
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400
He's like, you guys don't even listen to your own podcast.

770
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Why the fuck will I? I'm just doing a no cut.

771
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,620
Oh, great.

772
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,340
When Nick Cage gets to Mallorca, kind of like my wiener,

773
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:30,580
it turns out that the CIA cut that out.

774
00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:35,480
No, everyone's going to know you're uncut or am I?

775
00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:37,880
Yeah, we need mystery.

776
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,780
But I've seen it. Yeah, I'm not going to say, but I've seen it.

777
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:42,820
It's how I know Nick's not a cartoon.

778
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:45,420
Sean doesn't kiss and tell.

779
00:37:46,460 --> 00:37:48,600
So when Nicholas Cage gets to Mallorca,

780
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,760
turns out the CIA is watching Javi

781
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:56,700
because he's a international arms dealer.

782
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:01,740
Cartel man, cartel man, and they cartelman cartman.

783
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Oh, man. Peter's going to Peter's going to yell at us so bad.

784
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:06,540
You guys are in trouble.

785
00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:10,780
Oh, and so they they get Nicholas Cage

786
00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:16,680
to help them try and track down the daughter of a president

787
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,220
or someone running for the election.

788
00:38:18,220 --> 00:38:20,820
Yeah. Who they kidnapped at the end of the film.

789
00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:24,660
He doesn't think it's Javi because of his, you know, years of acting.

790
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:29,260
He can read people, his shamanic thespian skills.

791
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,660
I loved that.

792
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,940
Oh, guys, it turns out that Nicholas Cage's thematic thespian skills,

793
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,080
you know, no more than the whole of the CIA.

794
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,100
Yeah. But they get him to spy on Javi.

795
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,080
And I mean, this is where the bumbling really happens.

796
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,140
He has to break into the camera room to bug all the cameras.

797
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,580
And when someone's coming up on him,

798
00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:53,020
he gets the slip of like the knockout agent on his hand.

799
00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:54,820
And then as he's leaving the door to find a place to hide,

800
00:38:54,820 --> 00:38:56,820
he wipes the sweat from his brow.

801
00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:59,260
That scene was so good. It was so good.

802
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:00,920
I think I touched my forehead.

803
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,120
You think you did? No, I'm.

804
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,220
Oh, I did. Yeah, I did.

805
00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:10,260
OK, now go out the window and walk along a thin ledge.

806
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,040
OK, so I mean, this is all for comedy and chuckles and it does work.

807
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,140
But he does this that knockout agents not very strong

808
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:21,140
because he goes for a solid two minutes.

809
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:24,240
He definitely would have died even if he tried to knock the guy out.

810
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,280
Do you have no joy in your life, Sean?

811
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,320
I don't.

812
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,980
My ex wife was on the podcast last week.

813
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Peter was a decision I made.

814
00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:37,020
You did this to you.

815
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:40,700
I've said that I have lost the ability to feel joy.

816
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:44,300
And now I'm just trying to suffer for my sins like a good Catholic.

817
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,200
He does the spy.

818
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,760
He does some spy work.

819
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Then they need to have him stay longer because they need to have tracked down

820
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,280
where the girl is at his birthday.

821
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,440
Says, you know, he read the script.

822
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,440
It's great.

823
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,740
Doesn't want to start it, but wants to stick around and write a film with Javi.

824
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:02,780
And that's when we get the best part of this film, which is just two friends

825
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,580
on acid. Yeah.

826
00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:09,060
I mean, I think the the spycraft stuff is is fine.

827
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,020
I mean, it's a means to an end.

828
00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:14,300
But like this movie is not at all served by that subplot.

829
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,400
No, I mean, I think the most important part

830
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,700
in what's really interesting is the the bromance between these two dudes. And like.

831
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,480
Well, it's a character driven movie.

832
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,540
It is. Yeah.

833
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:29,880
I've never been particularly like drawn to Pedro Pascal.

834
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,980
I think he's a great actor.

835
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:35,280
No, but he's never like done it for me in like, oh, that guy.

836
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,920
And this is the first movie that I was like, oh, I get what people are talking about.

837
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,700
Like that guy is he's charismatic. He's cute.

838
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,720
Like it works. It fucking works.

839
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,260
As a fellow Chilean, I love the man.

840
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:49,260
I don't know. Did you want to fuck Pedro Pascal?

841
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Always, especially in the Mandalorian outfit.

842
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,100
I mean, no, but.

843
00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:58,180
I mean, if I'm going to be honest,

844
00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:02,680
and that's what this podcast really about fucking fine Cleveland steamer.

845
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,980
Sure. But but let's talk about the acid scene because it's the best.

846
00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:08,980
Talk about the acid scene. Oh, my God.

847
00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:13,220
But like, yeah. So Pedro Pascal is like, you know, they need to get

848
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:16,700
into this raw emotional state like he has the answer

849
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,500
and just holds up a violin.

850
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:22,500
Nick Cage is like trying to do a snoop into the secret room to see if the girls there.

851
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,760
It's like, what's that? It's acid.

852
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,740
What the hell? And just let's have a just squirt him in the mouth.

853
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Next thing they're on the road, just staring at each other

854
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
while driving along a cliff edge.

855
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,440
Well, then later hobbies like I can't drive on acid.

856
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Bro, you fucking did.

857
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,720
I don't know how you got us here.

858
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,180
Yeah, but I mean, like, OK.

859
00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:46,820
Coming up on acid and being like solidly on acid,

860
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,780
especially when you think that's fair, because what got them to the point

861
00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:54,000
where they're like running through town and trying to get like away

862
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
is they're talking about the film.

863
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,740
Javi has this great line or it's like, you know, this might be the acid talking,

864
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,640
but we could do a big scene where the main characters are on acid or on drugs.

865
00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:08,400
So they're talking about like storytelling in a cage like, well, like,

866
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,320
what if we had a real paranoid scene where like the the main character

867
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,240
being followed, like, look at those two.

868
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,280
They might be following us.

869
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,820
And Javi just goes, oh, shit, are they following us?

870
00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:19,220
The kids. I don't know. Are they?

871
00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:23,020
They like get themselves into the spiral like this paranoia spiral.

872
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:25,460
And then they run and have my favorite scene, which is

873
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,460
them trying to like jump over the wall, jumping over the wall.

874
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:31,640
It was a table. Nicholas Cage.

875
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,700
Nick Cage can't lift him over the wall.

876
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:35,800
It has to leave hobby behind.

877
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,600
There's that slow motion. No.

878
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,080
When the cage drops down and just walks around, I was like, Mr. Cage.

879
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,080
No, there was a great line in

880
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:47,580
he's like trying to pick him up and he drops him.

881
00:42:47,580 --> 00:42:49,920
And Nick Cage is like, you're heavier than you look.

882
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,320
I was like, I have a very big head.

883
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,860
Cage is just enormous and enormous head.

884
00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:01,400
Just like he's complimenting your head so big, it's enormous.

885
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,060
It's terrific. It's wonderful.

886
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:04,840
And then they get to the other side of the wall.

887
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,800
They have a laugh and they look over.

888
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,580
And there are two other guys who look similar to the first two.

889
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:13,540
Yeah, it's a bald guy and another long haired ginger guy.

890
00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:15,620
That's all they think of.

891
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:16,780
Oh, shit, they run.

892
00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,380
But if you're on acid, that's that's more than enough.

893
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,260
Plenty. Yeah.

894
00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:24,720
I would be freaked out if I was on an island with two long haired gingers.

895
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,120
Right. Can I say that word?

896
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,020
I can't say prostitute.

897
00:43:28,020 --> 00:43:30,260
I'm pretty sure you can say ginger. OK.

898
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:33,460
I don't think that's a big I don't think that's a big hurtful one.

899
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:35,400
Oh, we're going to get so much hate.

900
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,500
Especially from the ginger sex workers.

901
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:41,340
When they're running back to the car, Javi gets hit by a car.

902
00:43:41,340 --> 00:43:43,500
It's really Pedro Pascal did that.

903
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,800
Did that sound himself?

904
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,140
Pedro Scout wrecked or ruined 12 cars to get that shot.

905
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:51,780
He's got a big head. Yeah, enormous.

906
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:53,520
But yeah, they get back to the car.

907
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,820
It's like, I can't drive an acid.

908
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:56,320
I can't think you are better driving me.

909
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,320
How do you know that?

910
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,960
I read you did all your own driving for gone in 60 seconds.

911
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:03,260
Those wheelies were pretty good.

912
00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:05,060
The best wheelies.

913
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:08,900
And then they like, yeah, they drive off and cage like drives up on the sidewalk.

914
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:13,940
He takes out like a shit ton of bicycles that are all just sitting there.

915
00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:17,700
And when they get back to the compound, still on acid, Javi's like passed on the car.

916
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,080
Nick tries to go like into that room and Javi like.

917
00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:23,740
Do you want to see what's in there?

918
00:44:23,740 --> 00:44:26,820
Yeah, obviously, like obviously wakes up and like comes up and finds him.

919
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:29,780
And then it's just his collection of Nick Cage memorabilia.

920
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:32,680
Then that's when we see are introduced to the

921
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,460
Castor Troye statue of Nicholas Cage with the Golden Guns, which, like,

922
00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:38,100
you know, those real guns, right?

923
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:43,500
But it's this horrible mannequin of Nicholas Cage with like a mo haircut.

924
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,900
It's like, can I ask how much you paid for this?

925
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:48,640
About six thousand dollars.

926
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640
It's grotesque.

927
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Yeah.

928
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,640
Grotesque.

929
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:59,220
If somebody presented me with like just a similar but not quite right statue of me.

930
00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,320
Oh, my God. I'm like, oh, my God.

931
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,880
I would want it so bad.

932
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,760
I feel like Josie can make that happen.

933
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,760
Yeah.

934
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,660
I would even be happy with just a cardboard cut out of myself.

935
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:15,460
How cool is to be grotesque?

936
00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:18,100
Yeah. I once tried to draw you on a beer can.

937
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,240
Yeah. People I was doing this for also knew you and they were just like, no,

938
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:24,280
it's too bro. Which I understand.

939
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:27,980
I'm a very muscular and, you know, tone.

940
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Tone. Yeah. Handsome person.

941
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,680
Yeah. I've got like nine.

942
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Come gutters. Yeah.

943
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Where I don't think you know what come gutters are.

944
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,620
I'm pretty sure I introduced you to this. Probably.

945
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,660
Hobbies cousin turns out to be the real mobster hobbies, just a figurehead

946
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,140
and finds out that Nicholas Cage is working for the CIA

947
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:50,000
and wants hobby to kill the cage.

948
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,180
The cage has to take out hobby because

949
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,500
hobby thinks that the cage is having this like creative block

950
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:58,980
because he and his daughter aren't getting along.

951
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:03,020
So hobby brings his daughter and ex wife to the island.

952
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:06,580
And so they go to have like a shootout

953
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920
or go kill each other on the cliff where they first became friends

954
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:13,360
beforehand, trading shoes.

955
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Yeah, I liked that. I love that. I did, too.

956
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,720
They're just like complementing each other's shoes.

957
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,540
And they're like, do you want to trade like.

958
00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:22,700
Forever. Yeah.

959
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:25,540
And then when they're running away from the people actually trying to kill them,

960
00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:28,100
they're just bitching about each other's shoes

961
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,780
because there's no ankle support in the moccasins. Yeah. No shit.

962
00:46:33,140 --> 00:46:36,180
So and then that's when the third act action film starts,

963
00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:40,160
which does have a pretty good bit where the bad guy kidnaps Nick Cage's daughter.

964
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,020
So his ex wife is a makeup artist, makes him look like another gangster.

965
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:49,960
Yeah, like a Spanish guy who hasn't been seen for 15 years.

966
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,700
And just that's when we get like the worst Nick Cage acting in the film.

967
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,860
Oh, it's so good.

968
00:46:55,860 --> 00:47:00,340
It's like he's actually trying to like make a character then.

969
00:47:00,340 --> 00:47:04,540
And it's just maybe does such a great job of like having great actors act poorly.

970
00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:06,840
They saved the president's daughter.

971
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,640
They save their own daughter.

972
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,940
There's a bit of a shootout.

973
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:13,780
Nick Cage repeats the Boston line from the beginning of the film.

974
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,120
There's a chase.

975
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,720
They get to the U.S. Embassy.

976
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,220
And at the end of it, Nick Cage's daughter throws him a knife

977
00:47:19,220 --> 00:47:21,260
that got dropped in the back of the truck earlier.

978
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:23,920
He catches it midair, stabs dude in the chest.

979
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Then it goes full Michael Bay camera around.

980
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,420
There's an American flag.

981
00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:34,320
The military shows up and you turn back to his family and it's Demi Moore as the mom.

982
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:39,400
Incredible. It cuts out to this is a screening of a Nick Cage movie

983
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,560
written by Javi about the events of the film.

984
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,360
Yeah, it's perfect.

985
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
It gives you what they set out to do.

986
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:47,960
Highlights, obviously, Nicky.

987
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,240
Man, this movie, just every character, I think,

988
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,880
got some kind of like big, nice laugh out of me.

989
00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:57,140
Everybody had really good comedy.

990
00:47:57,140 --> 00:48:00,420
It was pretty well as the CIA agent is awesome.

991
00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:02,680
Fun cage versa connection to that.

992
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,280
Guess who she was recommended by?

993
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,060
Just tell me Nick Cage, Nick Cage recommender on the advice

994
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:11,800
on the advice of our old friend.

995
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,800
That's not a fun fact.

996
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,300
Let me finish the god damn sense.

997
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,240
So there's a Schrader connection.

998
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,500
All right. Schrader did one thing right.

999
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:20,900
You're the Schrader.

1000
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:23,340
Nicholas Cage turned down this role like three or four times

1001
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:24,300
because he thought it was too weird.

1002
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:27,300
And when he finally agreed to it, wanted to play the Javi role.

1003
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:32,640
He wanted to be he thought it would be more meta for him to play his biggest fan.

1004
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,480
It is more meta, but that and only fucking terrible.

1005
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,720
Only only was cool playing himself after he met Pedro Pascal.

1006
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:42,380
I thought Pedro Pascal was like this crazy method actor

1007
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:45,560
who was just method acting all of this like love for Nick Cage.

1008
00:48:45,860 --> 00:48:49,220
And then later on, find out that Pedro Pascal has always been a huge fan.

1009
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:51,960
Huge Nick Cage fan. Nick, do you have a quote?

1010
00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:54,760
I have many quotes. I have a favorite scene.

1011
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:58,840
So this is Nick and Nicky talking.

1012
00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:03,840
And Nick is telling Nicky about how he's going to do this movie.

1013
00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:09,020
And Nick, he's trying to talk him out of it because he's not a small time actor.

1014
00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:10,480
He's a movie star.

1015
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,980
Nick says he thinks it would be good for them to do it.

1016
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:15,680
And Nicky comes in with like the gay uncle

1017
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,360
in the next Diplos Brothers movie kind of thing.

1018
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,200
Exactly. Then Nicky slaps him.

1019
00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:23,800
He's like, the fuck are you talking about?

1020
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,940
We haven't worked since we were 15, 41 years

1021
00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:31,780
to be number seven on the call sheet of a goddamn student film.

1022
00:49:31,780 --> 00:49:33,780
I think it's a good idea.

1023
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:42,080
You listen to me. You're Nick fucking.

1024
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,780
And woo.

1025
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:46,160
Ow. Cage.

1026
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Addy doesn't need a struggling artist to be her father.

1027
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,360
She needs you to be a star.

1028
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,540
Now you get the next one, baby.

1029
00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:57,040
And we're back. Nick Cage, breathily.

1030
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:59,780
Not that we ever went anywhere.

1031
00:49:59,780 --> 00:50:03,040
Not that we went anywhere. Come here.

1032
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:06,120
And then he just throws his toothpick, grabs Nick Cage

1033
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,080
and like passionately kisses him right on the mouth.

1034
00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:11,980
So he has when Nicky pulls away.

1035
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,880
Yeah. Nick Cage smooches good.

1036
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,660
You tell him Nick Cage smooches good.

1037
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,760
Yeah, it's a brilliant scene.

1038
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,220
It's great. And it's just Nick Cage and Nick Cage.

1039
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960
My other favorite line was after Nick Cage watches

1040
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,940
Harvey's third favorite film, Paddington 2 teary eyed sniffling.

1041
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Paddington 2 is incredible.

1042
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,300
Have you guys seen Paddington 2?

1043
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,640
No, I have not seen Paddington 1.

1044
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,240
I've heard both of them are actually pretty fucking good.

1045
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:39,940
Yeah.

1046
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:42,620
Trevor Moore always spoke really highly of them.

1047
00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:45,160
I kind of feel like I should watch them.

1048
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Let's just do a podcast about Paddington. OK.

1049
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,200
That's how easy it is to get the three of us to do anything.

1050
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,540
I liked when Nick Cage was he like brings his daughter home.

1051
00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:56,300
This is in the beginning of the movie.

1052
00:50:56,300 --> 00:51:00,440
And he and Addy had just been at like family therapy or whatever.

1053
00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:04,440
And the mom is just like, oh, what's wrong with her?

1054
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,940
As the kid storms off.

1055
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:09,780
Nick just says, she's mad at me

1056
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:13,820
because we watched Cabinet of Dr. Caligari together and she hated it,

1057
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:17,380
which I find odd given how mature her taste normally is.

1058
00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:21,060
You're surprised your teenage daughter didn't want to watch

1059
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:24,920
an insane hundred year old German film with you. Yes.

1060
00:51:26,020 --> 00:51:29,000
The director and writer just decided to write this thing.

1061
00:51:29,740 --> 00:51:30,640
Never met Nick Cage.

1062
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,000
There's like, let's write a movie about Nick Cage.

1063
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,300
We have no connection to him.

1064
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,840
Maybe we'll get to make it one day.

1065
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,380
Was it us?

1066
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:42,380
Yeah, it sounds like we really went around this the wrong way.

1067
00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:46,920
Also, Nick Cage swore he would never watch this movie because it was too weird.

1068
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,380
Even at the premiere was there, but wasn't in the theater.

1069
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,760
So Venn diagram.

1070
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,060
Good, good, good, good, good movie.

1071
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:57,360
Now the real question.

1072
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,020
The debate.

1073
00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:02,500
This is one of the few times where I'm kind of on the fence.

1074
00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:07,040
I think I would enjoy the trust more on rewatches.

1075
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,040
I'm glad I watched the underweight of NASA talent.

1076
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,040
It is funny.

1077
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,820
I just I the back half just kind of kills me.

1078
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,220
I would probably argue for unbearable weight in the same way.

1079
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,660
The last third of the trust just wasn't quite there.

1080
00:52:23,660 --> 00:52:25,260
Plus, it leaves too many things.

1081
00:52:25,260 --> 00:52:30,600
It's not as finished of a movie, but I think unbearable weight is just

1082
00:52:30,860 --> 00:52:32,400
it's a more enjoyable movie.

1083
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,740
Pound for pound, it's a more cage movie

1084
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:38,940
as it is 100 percent about how it's going to be.

1085
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:41,180
My next point is out of the both of them.

1086
00:52:41,180 --> 00:52:45,360
I mean, Cage gives an amazing performance in both and he gives a very cagey

1087
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,960
performance in both. He does.

1088
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:50,600
I'll be happy to watch either of these movies again in my life,

1089
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,620
and I will continue to watch them.

1090
00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:56,340
I would rather see unbearable weight go forward.

1091
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:59,640
I think it's just I think it's a better comedy.

1092
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,660
It's better for the category.

1093
00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:02,340
It's a stronger script.

1094
00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,100
It's better performances.

1095
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,640
It's Elijah Woods. Great.

1096
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,240
But there's a much larger cast that all contributes

1097
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,320
really good performances in unbearable weight.

1098
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,580
It's absurd. It's truly an absurd movie.

1099
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:21,060
I'm just going to use our movie podcast all of a sudden.

1100
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:23,620
In Germany, we are.

1101
00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:25,620
Yeah, that's right. Thanks, Germans. Yeah.

1102
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,360
So cool. So cool.

1103
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,760
No, I I think you are right.

1104
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,840
And like I said, I was on the fence for either of these going forward,

1105
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,360
because I do enjoy them both in different ways.

1106
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,900
The Trust is an interesting movie.

1107
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:41,300
He has an interesting character.

1108
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,180
It's just not well developed.

1109
00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:44,180
That's fair.

1110
00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:47,220
Whereas I think the unbearable weight is an interesting movie

1111
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:50,980
with two interesting characters and a whole CIA subplot

1112
00:53:50,980 --> 00:53:53,320
that could have been written around real easy.

1113
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,780
Yeah, but it adds wackiness.

1114
00:53:55,780 --> 00:53:59,420
I think you could take all of that out of there and Javi could just be

1115
00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:03,700
this, you know, maniac obsessive and trying to figure out like,

1116
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:06,600
does this guy want to like take my skin and wear it?

1117
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,040
So, Harvey, does he want me to like blow him or like,

1118
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,840
does he want to watch me fuck his wife or have me watch him?

1119
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,140
Fuck, I am Harvey. Nailed it.

1120
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:17,040
I just did the bow.

1121
00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:19,640
Thanks. Thank you.

1122
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,220
I'm taking I'm taking the Nick roll of this podcast.

1123
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Confirming. Yeah.

1124
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Unbearable weight.

1125
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,920
Bearable weight. Massive talent.

1126
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,920
A great movie.

1127
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Can't wait to see it move forward.

1128
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,720
What's coming up next week?

1129
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:34,300
We kind of touched on this in the beginning, but Joe and Zanderly.

1130
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:35,860
Zanderly. Zandali.

1131
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:37,200
Whatever it's going to be. Zandaya?

1132
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,760
We're not sure. We're going to.

1133
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:44,240
So it's a movie about a guy who takes in a kid who's being abused

1134
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,480
and a movie where Nick Cage is a horny artist.

1135
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,980
It's going to be terrific. It's going to be a real romp.

1136
00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:53,480
Well, thank you all for listening.

1137
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,480
If you are interested in interacting with us,

1138
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,680
you can find us on Reddit or Twitter or any of the other things.

1139
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,780
But Reddit is CageMatchPod.

1140
00:55:01,780 --> 00:55:04,860
And if you happen to be interested in supporting us,

1141
00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:07,320
we are on Patreon at CageMatch.

1142
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,920
So as always, thank you to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean,

1143
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,700
Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam.

1144
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:16,600
And special thanks to our cage dancers, Ira and John.

1145
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,940
We're at episode 18. We've got.

1146
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,600
14 more episodes.

1147
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,600
Thanks for the math. In season one.

1148
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,280
Yeah. And then in season two, we don't know what we're doing.

1149
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,620
We'll figure it out. Send us send us your ideas.

1150
00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:33,220
What you'll figure it out for us. Do our jobs for us.

1151
00:55:33,220 --> 00:55:35,780
Now, we totally know what we're doing, but it's a secret.

1152
00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:37,780
So don't even bother trying to figure it out.

1153
00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:39,720
It's a really good idea to know.

1154
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,560
But send us your theories.

1155
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Send us five dollars in your theory

1156
00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:48,660
in a self-addressed stamped envelope to what's your address, Peter?

1157
00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:51,460
Yeah. Put that on the Internet.

1158
00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:56,000
Goodbye, everybody.

1159
00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:07,840
Like, maybe I'll get real.

1160
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,880
Maybe I'll have like a giant sandwich one day

1161
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,720
and love the unbearable weight of massive talent.

1162
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:15,980
Anytime you say sandwich, you have to give me like a big gap

1163
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:17,280
just so it sounds funnier.

1164
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,060
All right. Maybe one day I'll have a giant sandwich.

1165
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:22,520
No, you didn't do it right.

1166
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,380
Oh, no. Gap in the beginning.

1167
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,100
And at the end, I was giving you one at the end.

1168
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,560
Yeah, you gave me a big one at the end.

1169
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,400
A big, big one in the end.

1170
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,000
Cut it out.

1171
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Boy, that's going to that's an outtake.

1172
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,800
And then Eddie Murphy bus out of nowhere

1173
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,780
and sticks a banana in his tailpipe.

1174
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:46,120
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

1175
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,880
Why? It can't be that bad.

1176
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,980
It can't be that good either.

1177
00:56:51,980 --> 00:56:54,360
I like that we're going to eat them like Ryan and all.

1178
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Like he doesn't take the peel off.

1179
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,560
I'm taking I'm just going to know you got to do it.

1180
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,920
I have a horrible gag reflex. I can't do it.

1181
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,200
Oh, my God. Now you really have to do it.

1182
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:07,060
I mean, it's Peter's floor. I'll throw up here. Yeah.

1183
00:57:07,940 --> 00:57:10,840
You know, box right there.

1184
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,600
It's the puzzle box.

1185
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,340
Where where's where's the place I can throw up and he can find it later.

1186
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:19,840
Got the globe. How do you open the globe?