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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Speaking of decisions, I will come to regret.

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Welcome back to Cage Match, colon around about way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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That's how you do a segue.

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It's just the intro.

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Just the intro, bud.

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You know, by season two, I think you'll get segues.

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I finally understand what a segue is.

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We can use all that sweet, sweet Patreon money to hire someone to write segues.

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Just a ghostwriter for segues, just out of any kind of situation

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you might imagine, it's like we're talking about like

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roasting chestnuts with like behind your balls.

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And that's how we get into like ghostwriter somehow. Exactly.

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I want the montage, like the training montage of Sean learning how to segue, though.

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Different situations and him fucking up and figuring it out.

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Yeah, so like while the best writing a segue, though,

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because I would pay a lot of money to see Sean write a segue.

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Cage match, colon around about way of meeting Nicholas Cage,

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where we take 64 of Nicholas Cage's best movies and

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we'll figure out what the best is eventually.

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Maybe we'll say, okay, just bestest.

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You can totally take a look at the bracket on our website, though.

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Cage match dot fun. Yes, we are your home. That's a fucking plug. Nice.

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We're for the thing they're listening to.

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Yeah, we're we're your host, Sean.

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Oh, and I'm Nick and I am producer Peter.

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And this week we have a special guest, my favorite person and sometimes arch nemesis.

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Meredith slash mayor.

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I'm Sean's ex spouse and we still like each other enough to talk.

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It's true. And beyond my podcast, apparently.

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To be fair, I did kind of strong arm my way onto this podcast,

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because as soon as you were like me and Peter and Nick

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are doing this podcast about Nick Cage movies, I literally was like,

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as soon as you do the rock, I have to be on it because it's a perfect film

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and I love it very much and it's very special to me.

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And if you don't let me on your podcast, I do know where you live.

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You actually don't now, though.

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Bitch, I have access to your Amazon account.

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I know exactly where the fuck you live.

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Oh, damn, that's true. All right.

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How do you think I got your address to send you divorce papers?

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Oh, no, I'm sad.

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Actually, that brings it back around and I'm feeling a lot better about this now.

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Are you feeling good about this?

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OK, great. You can edit all of that out, by the way.

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Keep that in.

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I this is going to be easier than me writing a suicide letter.

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That's fair.

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This suicide letter will actually just be directions for somebody to listen to this.

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So we get one more listen.

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Oh, no, it's going to be it's going to be a QR code motherfucker.

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Yeah. You have to subscribe to the podcast to get the suicide note.

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That's good. Also great.

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And review. Yeah, please.

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Yeah, it's important.

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Meredith is still the one person who's like giving us a written review.

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Yeah, much appreciated.

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If anyone wants to write us another review, except for that guy,

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they said Sean makes Meg Ryan look like blonde Robert Downey Jr.

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That is also a review.

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I do. And it was right.

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It was a Reddit review, but it counts as five stars in my heart.

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This week, we are discussing cinematic Masterpiece of the Rock

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and cinematic cinema, Bangkok Dangerous cinematic malware.

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Yeah. OK. So when we did our episode zero,

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Sean sort of foisted Bangkok Dangerous

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on us as a joke, and I am pretty furious at him.

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I'm so mad. I was watching Bangkok Dangerous and I was just like,

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you fucker, you absolute fucker.

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I know this was Sean's pick.

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I know it was. Fuck him.

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What is wrong with you, Sean?

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What is wrong with you as a human being?

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I mean, you're the one who married me.

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I didn't even make it through the whole movie.

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Oh, man, I found out how to make it through it today.

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It's just bubble bath, really big sandwitch.

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And just just don't get up.

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It's just I have nothing but bad things to say about this film,

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so I just can't wait to get into it.

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Sean, why don't you do a synopsis?

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That's a segue, motherfucker.

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So Bangkok Dangerous from 2008.

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Joe is an assassin getting ready to hang up the old spurs, as it were.

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Goes to Bangkok for one last job to kill four people along the way.

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Makes a friend, meets a deaf woman or a mute woman.

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Both. Oh, yeah.

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And then learns a lesson and then kills himself.

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That's Bangkok Dangerous.

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OK, so how about The Rock?

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Yeah, can we talk about The Rock now for the next hour?

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Now we need to get through this.

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It's a shitty movie.

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It's shitty and I hated it.

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Isn't it like a remake?

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It's a remake of a 1999 film.

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Same directors. Oh, my God.

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Wait, they only waited nine years before remaking this movie.

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Yeah, same directors.

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It was their first film.

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Not even long enough to learn their own lesson.

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The Pang brothers.

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I'm wondering.

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Is there first and second?

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I don't want to go and see if the first one's actually any good.

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Probably not.

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It's not.

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I haven't seen it, but I'll just go ahead and say it's not.

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I mean, these brothers do have a fairly long filmography.

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Just because you've done something a lot of times

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doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it.

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Like I. Yeah, fucking Paul Schrader.

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Yeah, Paul Schrader.

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Yeah, Paul Schrader.

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Like I've baked before.

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I've made a lot of cookies.

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Were they edible?

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Absolutely not.

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We've seen worse in terms of quality of movie, in terms of quality of cage.

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It's slow.

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It's meandering.

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You don't like any of the characters, but it's not like the worst thing

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that's ever been committed to film.

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It's just a bad movie.

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It's not good, but it's not like painful.

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Three movies that are worse than Bangkok Dangerous.

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Dog Eat Dog.

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Yeah, in the Nick Cage universe.

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The Shraders and Left Behind.

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Left Behind.

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Those are.

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Dog Eat Dog, Left Behind.

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Although I would take.

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I would take Dog Eat Dog over Bangkok Dangerous for sure.

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I think we established like recently, like I kind of put Bangkok Dangerous,

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Left Behind and City of Angels all on the same.

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Oh, yeah.

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I think the whole thing for me on this one is just the movie's not interesting.

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It's not well scripted.

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And there's nothing for him to work with.

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Give me a movie that makes me mad or frustrated or sad or joyous.

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This movie was the worst because it made me feel nothing.

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Yeah, it's just a waste of time.

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You could literally be doing anything else.

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And it's a movie that's essentially like it was like his John Wick back in 2008.

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OK, well, that's the one thing I actually want to talk about,

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because this is just.

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I want to talk about John Wick, too.

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It was a lot better.

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It was.

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No, this was just like this is Hong Kong, like action cinema,

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hard boiled that era of film, but done by amateurs.

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This one just has the fortune of having Nicolas Cage.

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This one does have the best disarming sequences we've seen in a Nick Cage movie

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though, where he actually takes off a dude's arm with a motorboat.

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Well, that in general is the only good scene.

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The slow speed chase.

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Oh, every boat chase is a slow boat chase.

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I don't care like how fast the boats are actually going.

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There's no like exciting way to have boats just traveling on water

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unless you jump it off of something or boat through something.

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And we got both of those in face off.

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And that was a way better movie.

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I was with a way better boat chase.

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This boat chase was fine, though.

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Oh, that should be that should go on the back of the box.

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This boat chase was fun.

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The whole statement about face off and everything.

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I also just want to point this out in terms of where we're at in Cage's career.

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This was right after Book of Secrets.

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So we're really getting to that era of he owes the government money.

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That's what I thought the whole the whole movie.

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I was like, Nick, my man, you are going through something.

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It is obviously financial.

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You clearly are in the middle of a breakdown just based on your hair.

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Yeah, this is peak bird hair.

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The zero chemistry between him and the pharmacist lady.

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Oh, Charlie Young was not as distracting as his own hair that was on his head.

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I got used to his hair, though.

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The thing that I hate the most about his speaking of his relationship

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with the the deaf mute pharmacist lady, the sign language they use for her

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is so juvenile.

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It's the best part.

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What is like doing the like fingers thing?

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Oh, the rain, which is the thing.

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You can see it.

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Again, this is this is a audio formatted podcast.

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Okay, for everybody.

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We're about to get into the dumbest hand motion portion of the podcast.

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Just describe all your hand motions, please.

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So I'm like pointing my fingers down and like wiggling them

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as I like move them down, like from near my face to near my chest.

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Nicholas Cage's character is in this woman's mother's home.

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Who also seems to be her boss.

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I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't figure it out,

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but is like doing this weird finger waggle motion at each other.

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And it's like, oh, your name means rain.

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And it was just like, what the fuck is going on right now?

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You don't know her name.

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You've been on like what?

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Like five dates with this woman and she's just sat silently smiling at you.

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Perfect for the patriarchy.

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Fuck all of you. I hate this movie.

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My favorite sign language was definitely like when he first asked her out

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and he like goes in, he's like, oh, I want to I want to ask her to dinner.

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Will you ask her to dinner for me?

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And the old lady just turns and she makes the stupidest like points at the girl,

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points at Nick Cage, brings two fingers like together

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and then mimes eating.

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It's like, wow, couldn't have done that myself.

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What I love in terms of their communication arc is right before things hit the fan

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where they're walking through the park, she hands him a note

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that's written in English that she's, you know, happy.

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And then she has great handwriting, too, cursive and everything.

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So you guys could have just been writing to each other the whole time.

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She can write in English so she understands it.

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You work at a pharmacy.

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You've got a pad and pencil.

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We just have it with you.

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When Nick Cage went into the when Nick went into the pharmacy

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the first time for like the cut on his arm and she just like goes up to him

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and then he's like smiles at him, asks for something and she just sits there

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and stares at him smiling like an idiot, not making any motion

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to indicate that she can't hear that she can't speak his language.

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Nothing just like stares at him like a dummy.

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And the other lady is supposedly the mother just lets it happen

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and she just looks like a fool.

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Obviously, people that are like deaf and mute can definitely work

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whatever job they want.

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However, every person I have ever worked with who signs

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has always usually had like on their badge, like I use ASL or something

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and is typically someone that is factored into their job.

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They are not necessarily the greeter

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and the first line of customer service defense.

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Like, yeah, what?

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I mean, this is also Thailand and this was like an open air pharmacy

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where the lady out front seemed to be grinding up crabs at one point.

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She was like, just boiling them.

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Yes. Smash in those fuckers.

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I don't think declaring your inability to speak on your chest was a really a thing.

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Perhaps not.

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Perhaps everybody in the neighborhood just knew like, oh, she'll just go up

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and stare at you until you vaguely and weirdly mime at her

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with your weird hair looming over her because you're like six, four

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and she's like five, two.

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He's like six, nine with that hair, though.

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Dude, it brings a whole mood to his character that I was just like,

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you tall lanky bastard, like, what the fuck?

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Also, just in all of the chase scenes when they're like looking for him

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and he's like, I'll put on a baseball hat.

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I'm like, you're a foot taller than everyone in your surroundings.

253
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Yeah. And white and white.

254
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Also not a great assassin because he never wears gloves.

255
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His fingerprints are on everything.

256
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Yeah. This movie was pointless.

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It had zero redemption of anything, but there was one line in it

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that I did like, which was basically anybody can kill a politician.

259
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And I was like, that is an inspirational quote, Nick Cage.

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Thank you. Also, his sidekick Kong was dumb as well.

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Everybody in this movie was dumb.

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So I kind of just jumped ahead to the end.

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Does it actually end with Kong just dancing in a field or something?

264
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Like what? Yeah, just standing like, yeah, like by the bank.

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Cool. But right before that, like Nick Cage takes out the mob boss

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who hired him and then gets in the car with him and then blows

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both their brains out for reasons that are never explored.

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Yeah, you decided to have a very high profile gunfight

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in the vicinity of a bunch of cops and then didn't realize how that was going to go.

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But there was that boat chase and that was OK.

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We're hanging it all in the OK boat.

272
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Yeah, it wasn't OK.

273
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Boat chase. It was fine.

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And again, that great disarmament scene where he uses the motor boat to like,

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yeah, take off a guy's arm.

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That was the best part about it.

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I do. Hence why we're doing this podcast.

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I'm assuming I know where this is going to go, but I have to ask

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a good kid, bad cage, good movie, bad movie.

280
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Yeah, this is bad on both sides.

281
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Bad cage, bad movie, bad cage, bad movie, bad cage, bad cage.

282
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I mean, your thumbs down was pretty, pretty emphatic, but no one can see.

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Audio, audio format.

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I was waiting for a shonda shut up so I could give my opinion.

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We've all been waiting for Shonda. Shut up.

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That's like half the podcast.

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Everybody waiting for me to talk.

288
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God, if we could only fast forward through this Sean stuff.

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I have the power to just entirely remove him.

290
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Yeah. Wouldn't that be weird if it was just me?

291
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And like, I'm obviously having a conversation, but there's no Sean.

292
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This is like Garfield minus Garfield.

293
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This is starting to become hurtful.

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And welcome back to cage match.

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I'm Nick with my producer, Peter. Hello.

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And that's it. This is all of us.

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The full roster.

298
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Why do I ask you guys to do things with me?

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You did this to you. I know. I don't know why.

300
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Let's just crank out like a quote real quick and get the hell off this movie.

301
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I don't even have a quote.

302
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Yeah, I know. It's so not quotable. I'm just going to pick one.

303
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So on IMDb Joe narrating, you stay invisible too long.

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The human race starts to look like another species.

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So you venture out, you observe,

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and then you return to your invisible world like a ghost.

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It's just bad.

308
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Yeah, I didn't have a quote for this one, but I will say on the hair topic,

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it reminded me of Tom Hiddleston as Loki.

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So then I went and I watched Loki instead, and that was a better choice.

311
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Yeah, it was.

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Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.

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Welcome to the rock.

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All right, Meredith, this is your favorite movie. Go.

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Oh, my God, this movie fucking rocks.

316
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Literally, it's a pun within a pun.

317
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That's it. That's all that needs to be said.

318
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It is peak Michael Bay.

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It is peak Nick Cage.

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It is peak stupid action movie.

321
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It is peak car chases in San Francisco that are absurd.

322
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It is just and that's like I didn't even mention Sean Connery

323
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in those things, and he is also a delight.

324
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It's just the best.

325
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So real quick, Nicholas Cage plays Stanley Goodspeed.

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Good name. Good. Yeah.

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Sean Connery is John Patrick Mason and Ed Harris plays General Francis X Hummel.

328
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And then there's a bunch of other people.

329
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There's a lot of people in this. Yeah.

330
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Most of them good. Yeah.

331
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Oh, yeah. It's got Dr.

332
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Cox. Yeah. John C McGinley's in it.

333
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This was just the best mid to late 90s

334
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action supporting character mashup

335
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of all of these guys that I feel like were in every single action movie

336
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from like 1995 to 2002 as sort of tertiary characters.

337
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And they're all fantastic.

338
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Meredith, when did you see this?

339
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Did you see it when you were, you know, whatever, 12?

340
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12. This movie.

341
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You would have been six when you came out.

342
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A perfect movie for a six year old.

343
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So we had the VHS of it when I was seven

344
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the year after it came out.

345
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And I watched this movie probably once a week for like four years.

346
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I love this movie from the ages of seven to like 10 or 11.

347
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That is so much like my relationship with the movies

348
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Men in Tights and Stripes, but Stripes because there was a shower scene

349
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and Men in Tights because it's hilarious.

350
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Yep. Confirmed. Men in Tights is golden.

351
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I wore those tapes out.

352
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I'm not even kidding you.

353
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I have a distinct memory of my parents having a dinner party

354
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when I was like seven or eight or something.

355
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And they were all like talking and laughing and whatever.

356
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And I was like, can I be excused?

357
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And they were like, yes, get out of here, child.

358
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We're going to go continue drinking and talking. Be gone, young one.

359
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And I asked my brother, I was like, do you want to watch The Rock?

360
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And he was like, hell yeah.

361
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And so we just sat in the living room and like watched the VHS of The Rock

362
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while our parents were like having a lovely dinner party.

363
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And I was just like, this is so cool.

364
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Meredith, this is again your favorite film and you're our guest.

365
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So why don't you expand on it?

366
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Rocks break this film down for us.

367
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OK, Ed Harris is mad about war stuff with Marines

368
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because they're forgotten by the government.

369
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But what's the only way that he can solve this problem?

370
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By stealing weapons, chemical weapons from some kind of facility.

371
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,840
I think a chemical weapons facility, a probably chemical.

372
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If I had to guess, Nick, I would say it's a chemical weapons facility,

373
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but I'm not sure.

374
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But let's go not scientists like let's go with that.

375
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,180
So then Ed Harris and all of his crazy ass mercenary terrorists

376
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take over Alcatraz Island with a bunch of tourists on it

377
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in a bid to get the government to pay money

378
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to the Marines that were forgotten on like a secret mission.

379
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It doesn't make like a ton of sense that this would be like the best way

380
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to make this happen.

381
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But Ed Harris is very convincing and he has a bunch of dudes

382
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that he's convinced to do it.

383
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And then what? It's Washington, D.C.

384
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,240
Nick Cage is in a chemical lab.

385
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,440
There's this VX gas, but it's crazy.

386
00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:44,880
He has to go to San Francisco to because there's these chemical weapons.

387
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Oh, my God.

388
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But then they're like, it's Alcatraz.

389
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We can't get into Alcatraz.

390
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,440
There's no way no one's ever gotten out.

391
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,520
And then one guy's gotten out, but he's blacklisted.

392
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,480
He doesn't exist. Who is it?

393
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,920
It's fucking Sean Connery with long hair and he's amazing.

394
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,080
And then Nick Cage and Sean Connery and a bunch of Marines

395
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who all die infiltrate Alcatraz.

396
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,520
They get like, but what is the thing I'm doing right now with my shot?

397
00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:14,340
Shot. They get shot.

398
00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:15,840
So Michael Bean played the lead.

399
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,520
A seal.

400
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,120
Basically, the rest of the movie is Nick Cage and Sean Connery

401
00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:23,020
interacting, being the best.

402
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,340
And then they like save the day and whatever.

403
00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,220
That might be our best synopsis.

404
00:20:27,220 --> 00:20:28,820
You guys make notes.

405
00:20:28,820 --> 00:20:30,020
That was really fucking good. Thank you.

406
00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:33,140
You know, everyone at this table knows I don't learn.

407
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:36,140
I was playing Minesweeper.

408
00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:37,340
Did you win?

409
00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:39,720
No, that's why my computer made noises.

410
00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:43,680
Somehow, I'd never seen this film.

411
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What? Until now?

412
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Yes. As an adult?

413
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:48,620
Yeah. No. And I.

414
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And you were married to Meredith.

415
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,020
There are reasons.

416
00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:53,980
Well, wait, Sean, we never watched this together.

417
00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:56,320
You never shared this this thing with me.

418
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,220
You're getting second divorced.

419
00:20:58,220 --> 00:20:59,820
This is grounds.

420
00:20:59,820 --> 00:21:03,020
I just I must have assumed you'd already seen it because again,

421
00:21:03,020 --> 00:21:04,380
it's a perfect film.

422
00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:07,240
Mostly, I think I've tried to watch it in the first 10 minutes.

423
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,040
I always bounced off of just the Michael Bay slow strokes of the

424
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military industrial complex.

425
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,240
Yeah, Michael Bay, man.

426
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,620
This is such a like you just watch it and you're like straight out of the

427
00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:21,180
Michael Bay playbook.

428
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Everything being shot at a low angle, kind of up while spinning

429
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around people talking.

430
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,840
But that's how you know it's serious.

431
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,740
He apparently turned down this movie six months like earlier

432
00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:33,340
because he didn't think the script was serious enough.

433
00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:39,780
They are talking about annihilating the entire Bay area

434
00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:47,420
with a chemical weapon because 85 people didn't get recognized

435
00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:51,540
because they did some shady government shit like it's unhinged.

436
00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:55,280
That also dates this movie in that if that were to take place now

437
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,740
and the government was like, well, California is going to go away.

438
00:21:57,940 --> 00:21:59,740
More than half the government be like, that's all right.

439
00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:06,000
I will say this was a very pre 9 11 pre rise of visible

440
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,200
white nationalist military groups pre a lot of things that we could say

441
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are currently plaguing our country.

442
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,140
But I will say there was a certain pure delight in that of like,

443
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:22,440
these are dudes, they're mad about a thing and they're going to do

444
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,300
something totally fucking insane.

445
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,580
And isn't that fun?

446
00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:29,480
And also like collateral damage.

447
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,240
What is that? We're the government.

448
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,400
We don't care.

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,440
I guess the most collateral damage would be the car chase through San Francisco.

450
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,980
An entirely worthless scene like needless.

451
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:42,540
Yeah, I mean, it's a fun car chase, but it's a needless scene to the film

452
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,240
actually causes some issues with the character of Nick Cage,

453
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,080
who isn't a field agent, isn't supposed to be an action guy and kind of

454
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,540
that's his arc, but he can, you know, drive that Lamborghini

455
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,580
through San Francisco like it's nothing.

456
00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,480
He like jumps it through a fucking shop window.

457
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,740
Yeah. Fun fact.

458
00:22:58,740 --> 00:22:59,700
It's cool.

459
00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:03,940
And that car chase scene, the Humvee that Sean Connery steals,

460
00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:07,640
the guy who he steals it from, same actor that Ed Harris

461
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,600
steals a car from in National Treasure 2.

462
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,740
Interesting. Yeah.

463
00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:13,600
That's a that's a Bruckheimer connection.

464
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,940
That's a Bruckheimer connection.

465
00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:18,280
This is one of five Bruckheimer's that we'll watch for this.

466
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,300
It's Nick Cage's first time working with Bruckheimer.

467
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,140
Also, the last time Bruckheimer worked with his producing partner,

468
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,580
they had a falling out due to drugs.

469
00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:29,280
Who was doing them, who was buying them or selling them

470
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,200
and who was sharing? Not Bruckheimer.

471
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000
I don't know what the guy's other name was.

472
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,500
Yeah, it's probably the guy that didn't continue a career.

473
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:41,180
If if there's one guy that like really suffered negatively

474
00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:44,380
from the drug connection, it's probably the guy we don't know the name of.

475
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,280
That's fair. That's fair.

476
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,280
This is the start of peak Nick Cage action here, though,

477
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,540
because his next two films were Con Air and Face Off.

478
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:55,900
So this kicked off an era for him before this.

479
00:23:55,900 --> 00:24:00,240
He was like mostly still in the comedy, sometimes drama thing.

480
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,900
Like we had Red Rock West, which is more the comedy.

481
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:05,100
Yeah, Red Rock West was definitely it.

482
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:06,840
I mean, it wasn't comedy, but it was.

483
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,940
Well, it was sort of like it was a comedy.

484
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:10,840
Dark comedy, farce.

485
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,540
And this was the next movie after his Oscar win.

486
00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:15,240
This came out right after leaving.

487
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,800
He was really in the pocket right here.

488
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Yeah, this is some of his best stuff.

489
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,500
That's what I mean. It's Pete.

490
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,140
He actually gives a shit.

491
00:24:22,140 --> 00:24:25,340
He's actually clearly acting and invested

492
00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:28,500
and is extremely funny and charming.

493
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,400
Again, with the exception of the weird car chase

494
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:36,180
consistent to his character, he was the one who decided his character

495
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:37,640
didn't swear. Oh, that's right.

496
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,780
There was a little bit of swearing in this movie.

497
00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:42,580
But he just gives like a G and a golly.

498
00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:47,160
Zeus's butthole, he he grabs Sean Connery and says, hey,

499
00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:50,780
hey, Paul, and I was like, just say ask the man.

500
00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:53,360
Come on. What do you say we cut the chit chat?

501
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,320
He whole. Yes.

502
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,860
I like when people say fucking a once they introduce Sean Connery,

503
00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:02,560
they give Connery most of the best usual cage lines.

504
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:07,020
It doesn't really tell the third act where Nick Cage really starts caging out.

505
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,020
Yeah, definitely.

506
00:25:08,020 --> 00:25:12,360
I mean, there is the whole thing where he goes off about how LPs sound better.

507
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,100
Which is just the best.

508
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:18,020
And also another thing that made me be like, how has Sean not seen this movie?

509
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:18,860
This is Sean.

510
00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,720
You also it's the Beatles.

511
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,420
I think it's with the Beatles.

512
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,020
Sure. Yes. That because he's a he's a Beatles file.

513
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,260
No, he's a Beatle maniac maniac.

514
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:31,920
That's kind of like a Hulkamaniac, but Hulkamania is still running wild.

515
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:35,020
Is nobody remembers the Beatles stopped. Yeah.

516
00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:39,100
Oh, yeah. I tell you something, brother.

517
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,660
I think you'll understand.

518
00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:43,860
I mean, that was like a good I give you a 73 for that.

519
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:45,360
That's pretty good.

520
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,600
I'll take it. Yeah. I give it a 69.

521
00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:49,960
Oh, nice.

522
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,660
Gave you a lower score than me.

523
00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:54,320
But a funnier score. Yeah.

524
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,220
A funny, much funnier score.

525
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:58,020
Objectively, that's my ex wife, everybody.

526
00:25:58,020 --> 00:25:59,300
You guys ever listen?

527
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaking of Hulk Hogan, did you guys ever listen to the Hulk Hogan

528
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,960
and the wrestling boot band?

529
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,360
No. With such.

530
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,160
Oh, yeah. He played bass.

531
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,260
He had such bangers as I want to be a Hulkamaniac

532
00:26:14,260 --> 00:26:17,460
having fun with my family and friends.

533
00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:20,960
And then like some other wrestling used to be whole year.

534
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,760
I love everything about.

535
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,420
Yes. Of all the celebrities to just have a band, Hulk Hogan is the best.

536
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,320
Like, fuck Steven Seagal.

537
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,800
I want to see Hulk Hogan.

538
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,720
So and the Hulkamania.

539
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,920
I would just love to hear you continue to sing some of their greatest hits

540
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,820
from their oh, I know I've got a voice like honey, but

541
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,000
that's for the patrons.

542
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600
Oh, yeah, we should do a special song.

543
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,100
And that's how we lose all our patrons.

544
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,200
I mean, they don't have to listen, Sean.

545
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,720
They can just stop and keep giving us money.

546
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,120
If you start a clip, you have to play it.

547
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:57,220
Yeah, yeah.

548
00:26:57,220 --> 00:26:59,620
That's how we know you listened right back to malware.

549
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:03,100
It just plays immediately at full volume and there's no way to shut it down.

550
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:06,820
They won't let you do that anymore. Google stop that lame fucking Google.

551
00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:09,220
Let me force the podcast on people.

552
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:13,300
How do you think this movie would have gone if it got its original lead?

553
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,300
Arnold Schwarzenegger as a scientist, as yeah, and as Nick Cage's role,

554
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,860
he was offered it originally turned it down and then later regretted it.

555
00:27:21,860 --> 00:27:23,720
I mean, he's correct on that choice.

556
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,260
I mean, this was also that kind of peak time where Arnold Schwarzenegger

557
00:27:26,260 --> 00:27:29,620
was just plain an average guy who happened to be a giant.

558
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,560
Like Jingle All the Way Twins.

559
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,100
But like Nick Cage is such a gangly weirdo that I was like,

560
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:41,060
it's actually believable that he would be a scientist. Exactly.

561
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:42,520
And a Beatle maniac.

562
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Also, though, if we're tracking Nick Cage's chest and body hair, my God.

563
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,720
Oh, we are.

564
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,960
There's some disagreement as to why he he has his like naked in his apartment scene.

565
00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:57,800
Michael Bay says we knew Nick Cage would want to take his shirt off,

566
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,860
so we just got it out of the way.

567
00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:03,100
And Nick Cage's reasoning was, well, I just wanted to show that my character

568
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,260
was like comfortable at home.

569
00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:07,000
He was very comfortable.

570
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,300
Just another tiny plot note, because like there is one woman in this film.

571
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,260
There's actually a couple of women in this film.

572
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:16,400
I mean, there's like a few, but like this movie is not for the ladies.

573
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760
I'll just say it so you guys don't get canceled.

574
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,260
I mean, again, we had thanks.

575
00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:24,660
We had mostly naked Nick Cage in like the first 15 minutes.

576
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760
That was for the ladies. That was for me.

577
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,300
That was for Peter exclusively.

578
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,800
OK, they live in Washington, D.C.

579
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Nicholas Cage and his romantic paramour,

580
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,260
and they very casually are fucking on their roof.

581
00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:41,900
And I was like, I don't know of a single part of Washington, D.C.

582
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:46,400
that is not densely populated to the point that I would feel comfortable

583
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,700
fucking on my roof.

584
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:49,500
Hey, they're exhibitionists. Don't yuck.

585
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,840
Exactly. Rude.

586
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,800
You didn't hear the Inuit clap at the end.

587
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,600
So that's how you know Nick Cage is done.

588
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,500
God damn it.

589
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,700
As the heat from their body slowly melts the ice in the igloo.

590
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,700
Disgusting. Oh, God.

591
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:05,500
I love memories by Nick Cage.

592
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,440
Yeah. That's a call back to last episode.

593
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Go listen to that one if you want to get the reference.

594
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,040
I do want to talk about a little a few behind the scenes things for The Rock.

595
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,300
So because there's a lot of there's a lot of wacky stuff.

596
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,000
Wait, before we talk about the behind the scenes stuff,

597
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440
let's talk about the in the scene stuff.

598
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Yeah, we really haven't talked about the movie at all.

599
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,740
I want to talk about the fucking weapon.

600
00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:26,600
Hold on. The green oars.

601
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
The great oars are so cool.

602
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240
They're so cool. I wanted those things so bad.

603
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360
And there was a store in Kansas City when I was growing up

604
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,540
that was for like rich old white people.

605
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,000
And they had something that looked like that.

606
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,160
And it was just supposed to sit in like a vase on your coffee table.

607
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,560
And I wanted them so bad that I had no money because I was 12.

608
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Similar to you.

609
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,300
I had these like from like Bath and Body Works or something,

610
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,500
because again, it was the mid to late 90s.

611
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,860
The like bubble bath orb things.

612
00:29:54,860 --> 00:29:59,840
And because my dad is a real jokester and knew I loved the rock,

613
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,960
told me that those bubble bath things were poisonous.

614
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600
I love your father.

615
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:11,760
You want your skin to get all bubbly and fall off?

616
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,060
Yeah, exactly. That's what he told me.

617
00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:16,660
And I was like, why would my father ever lie to me?

618
00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:19,040
He would never do that. Those must be poison.

619
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,800
And so I lived in fear of these bubble bath orbs in my bathroom.

620
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,760
And a similar story about John.

621
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,900
My father.

622
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:31,960
Shortly, shortly after our separation, I got an unmarked box in the mail.

623
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160
And inside was just like a rusted canister.

624
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,840
I called John.

625
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,240
I'm like, and I saw it came from where Meredith and I used to live.

626
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:46,140
And I just like, I'm going to call John and see if this was him.

627
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:47,140
And he didn't pick up.

628
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,400
So I called Meredith and Meredith's like,

629
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:52,400
does it say like Gotham Gas Works on it?

630
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,860
I'm like, I didn't touch it.

631
00:30:53,860 --> 00:30:57,840
And I like turned over and it did because John liked to get me like Gotham

632
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Batman related things like, oh, this makes sense.

633
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:01,960
Card would have been nice.

634
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,540
Yeah. So you lived in the Bay Area.

635
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Yes. Did either of you ever go to Alcatraz?

636
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:10,840
Yeah. No. Once.

637
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Does it have as many chains as they show in this movie?

638
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,900
I mean, not in the places that they allow you to go.

639
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:19,040
There are so many decorative chains in this film.

640
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,760
It is like a BDSM shoot at Kink Dotcom.

641
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,560
So which also used to be in the Bay Area, which also used to be in the Bay Area.

642
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:27,960
It used to be in the armory.

643
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,680
We're in Soma, like near our school, near our college that we went to.

644
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080
No, just going back to Alcatraz real quick.

645
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,320
The powers that be, the producers wanted this film to be done on a soundstage

646
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,920
in L.A. with just a few shots of Alcatraz to kind of sell it to San Francisco.

647
00:31:44,260 --> 00:31:47,060
Michael Bay was quoted as saying, I got to shoot on the island

648
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,580
because this island is so fucking bitching.

649
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:52,180
That's a very Michael Bay thing to have said.

650
00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:55,380
Yes. Sean Connery lived on the island for the shoot.

651
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:57,140
What?

652
00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:01,500
Sean Connery had them build a cabin on the island for him to live on

653
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,300
because he didn't want to commute to and from the city every day.

654
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,380
I just imagine him bathing in that gross ass cistern.

655
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:10,700
I just imagine him in Zardoz,

656
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,580
and that's the only thing I ever picture him in that movie's gold.

657
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,380
There was one day, I think it was when Sean and I were in college,

658
00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:23,980
and we were talking about Sean Connery and we were on the like bus to go to school.

659
00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:26,380
And I said something about Zardoz.

660
00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:29,500
I was like, oh, yeah, Connery and Zardoz, the man of my dreams.

661
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,300
And Sean was like, what are you talking about?

662
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:35,700
And I was like, everybody on this whole bus, shut up.

663
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,100
We're about to talk about Zardoz.

664
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,900
And I pulled up the photo of like Sean Connery in his like

665
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:48,580
sexy ass bikini with his like bulge and the braid and the whole thing.

666
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:49,980
The whole thing.

667
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:51,780
And Sean was just like.

668
00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:54,380
What?

669
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:58,900
Like it broke, it broke your brain, like I could see it happening.

670
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,980
And I was so proud.

671
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,980
Yeah, that's the man that my parents decided to name me after.

672
00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:06,180
Yes, it is. Oh, yeah.

673
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:07,900
And what a man choice choice.

674
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:09,900
Yeah, respect. Yes.

675
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,300
Yes. So I grew up around the Bay Area.

676
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,500
Obviously, Sean and I went to school there. Sean is from there.

677
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:20,700
It was very sweet to see late 90s San Francisco again.

678
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,860
I was like, oh, my God, the San Francisco of my youth, not the one that is

679
00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:29,620
crowded with tech bros wearing fucking Pataguchi jackets and whatever.

680
00:33:29,660 --> 00:33:31,900
That chase sequence would be much different right now

681
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,620
with the current traffic in that city.

682
00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:36,980
So the chemistry of Sean Connery and Nicholas Gage cannot be denied.

683
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,580
It's perfect. Oh, make this movie. It's amazing.

684
00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:41,700
It's perfect. It's good.

685
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:45,460
What did you guys think of the the old Hans Zimmer score?

686
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:46,780
I don't remember it.

687
00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:50,700
Yeah, none of it actually strikes me as memorable.

688
00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:55,780
The only moment that is vaguely memorable score wise is when Nick Cage

689
00:33:55,780 --> 00:34:00,860
like has jabbed himself in the heart with atropine at the very end of the film.

690
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:01,660
And it's like.

691
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:03,900
You mean when he jabs himself in the stomach with it?

692
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:05,620
I mean, yeah, exactly.

693
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:07,260
It was like in his diaphragm.

694
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:10,180
I was like, Brody, you know where your heart is?

695
00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:11,900
You're a scientist.

696
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,020
And he like goes out with the two flares and it's like,

697
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:17,100
and it's amazing.

698
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,420
And there's like blue angels are coming in and it's like, oh, God.

699
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:23,580
And the music swells and it's just like peak testosterone.

700
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:24,860
And it's really great.

701
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:27,900
This is the era of Final Fantasy Eight was coming out.

702
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:31,980
There was a demo disc that got bundled with a game called Brave Fencer Musashi.

703
00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:33,740
I don't know if any of you guys played that one.

704
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,380
I remember I remember this game and I remember this disc. Yeah.

705
00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:39,940
And the demo has the beginning of Final Fantasy Eight.

706
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:42,540
It's like a landing scene where you're landing on an island

707
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:44,580
and it's a big military move. Yeah.

708
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:49,740
And the music on that demo disc ripped this score off so fucking bad

709
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,020
that they had to change it for the actual release of the game.

710
00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:55,700
It's awesome. I love it.

711
00:34:55,700 --> 00:35:16,420
That's my fun fact. Let's talk about Ed Harris's villain,

712
00:35:16,580 --> 00:35:21,060
because he's really good in this and he's always the villain, though.

713
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,660
Oh, what about Apollo 13? I think that's good, Ed Harris.

714
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:28,300
He's just such a good villain, though he has intense face.

715
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,500
You know how some people have resting bitch face.

716
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:32,620
He just has like resting intense face.

717
00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:35,220
He's like the dad you don't respect.

718
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,660
My problem is I always envision him wearing a Kangol hat.

719
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:42,060
I'm just thinking about Kangol.

720
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,220
So now I'm thinking about Kangol's.

721
00:35:44,740 --> 00:35:47,180
No, not not Kangol's and Kangol's Kangol.

722
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:48,180
Like a K.

723
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,060
Go hat. Like, why do you have a hat on it?

724
00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,020
You know, a K.

725
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:55,900
Goals hold the hat in place, you know, the place where you do Kangol's.

726
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,780
But with your head, just

727
00:35:58,780 --> 00:36:01,140
know, you can actually just suck a hat off of someone's head.

728
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:03,060
Yeah. With the power of your K.

729
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:05,300
Goals, use your magic.

730
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:09,060
Can you imagine somebody zip lining over you and then just

731
00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:12,420
take your hat right off?

732
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:13,820
And then they zip away.

733
00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:15,340
This is what John fears every day.

734
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:19,380
And you're just like, oh, but you're really sad because you lost your hat.

735
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:22,580
I love a story, though.

736
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:25,540
No one would believe you.

737
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:27,660
Yeah, nobody would.

738
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:30,100
But no, there is like really good at this.

739
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,700
And also he's doing this for the right reasons.

740
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:36,260
And at the end, he even kind of, you know, oh, we bluffed and they,

741
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:37,660
you know, they called it.

742
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:40,820
So he was never going to blow up the Bay Area.

743
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:45,580
Yeah. At one point, they said he's not not a Raiders fan

744
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:48,500
because the one missile they do fire, they said to Oakland,

745
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:51,460
for the football game, they were going to the baseball game.

746
00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:53,420
It was the Giants, not.

747
00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:54,180
No, it was in Oakland.

748
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:56,780
It was in Oakland. So it would be the A's.

749
00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:59,900
No, but they said they said they said they saw game.

750
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,340
We're going to fact check this shit.

751
00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:03,820
Yeah. OK.

752
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:07,980
Sorry. I will just say that I know it wasn't the Coliseum

753
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:09,340
because the seats were red.

754
00:37:09,340 --> 00:37:10,860
The seats were red.

755
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:13,180
And Oko does not have red seats.

756
00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:13,500
They do.

757
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,660
Of people to know about this, you would be one of those people to know.

758
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:18,260
I've sat in those seats.

759
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:19,700
I know they're not.

760
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:22,740
Nick has just been on the Internet trying to prove his point.

761
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:23,860
I heard him tapping away.

762
00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:25,460
I was curious what was going on.

763
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:30,340
I was wrong. It wasn't a baseball game, but it was Candlestick Park.

764
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:33,540
Weird, because that is not in Oakland.

765
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:35,180
No, it's not. No, it's not.

766
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:37,820
I mean, it was also all CG as well.

767
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:41,860
You mean they didn't just launch and abort

768
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:45,380
a missile filled with sarin gas. Cowards.

769
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:49,820
Cowards. Either way, those stadiums are right next to each other.

770
00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:50,900
So it doesn't really matter.

771
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:54,420
Well, the other thing that I love to just like if you're from the Bay Area,

772
00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:57,700
they're talking about how they're going to launch a missile at San Francisco.

773
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,060
It's at San Francisco, San Francisco.

774
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:04,460
And then the first missile they launched, they said that shit to Oakland.

775
00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:07,940
Well, since this film Michael Beans in this film for a bit, he's fun.

776
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,180
The most scrawny action hero there is.

777
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:13,780
Who was he? Who is he?

778
00:38:13,780 --> 00:38:15,740
He was Hicks in Aliens.

779
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:17,340
He was in Terminator.

780
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:19,180
John Connor's dad. Yeah.

781
00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:21,260
Or whatever. I can't remember his name in the first Terminator.

782
00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:22,460
Yeah, I can't remember either.

783
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:25,860
Kyle Reese. No, I mean, who was he in in this film that we're talking about?

784
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:29,100
He was the leader of the Seals when they came in.

785
00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:31,420
He was always like, I can't give that order.

786
00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:34,980
They won't give that order when they get shot in the shower.

787
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:36,380
I just love Michael Beans.

788
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:38,260
So whenever I see him in something, I'm like, hey, it's Michael Beans.

789
00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:44,100
One of my random actor notes is I wrote Slick Hair Little Mustache.

790
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:47,660
That was a guy named Paxton who was played by William Forsythe,

791
00:38:47,660 --> 00:38:50,900
who the last time we saw him, he was playing John Goodman's

792
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,380
brother in Raising Arizona. Yeah.

793
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:55,620
So I do want to just make sure we get in here.

794
00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:58,620
Sean Connery got like the entire crew sick.

795
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:02,020
With what? So all herpes.

796
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:07,620
All of the so when they were doing all the water scenes, interior

797
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:11,860
water scenes, Sean Connery wanted the water to be heated to 90 degrees.

798
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:14,740
And then like everyone got the stomach flu and doctors were just like,

799
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:16,860
yeah, it's a fucking Petri dish that you made there.

800
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:18,540
If someone pooped in the water. Yeah.

801
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:20,860
So just yeah. That's just it was Sean Connery.

802
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:24,780
He's just saying they're like.

803
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:26,580
That's like a thing in.

804
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:28,580
Fuck you, woman.

805
00:39:28,580 --> 00:39:35,460
Of like under 40 degrees and above whatever, like 140 degrees,

806
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:39,300
like bacteria can't survive, but anything that's between like 41 degrees

807
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,140
and 139 degrees like bacteria thrives.

808
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:44,380
Sean Connery, stop it.

809
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:45,980
Where do we fall on?

810
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:48,620
Is is is he James Bond or not?

811
00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:51,060
100 percent. You know this theory, right?

812
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:53,420
I kind of dig this theory. Walk us through it, though.

813
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:57,340
But the whole premise is Sean Connery is or, you know,

814
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:00,340
his character, Mason, was an S.A.S.

815
00:40:00,340 --> 00:40:04,220
agent caught at the Canadian border with some microfiche of all of America's,

816
00:40:04,220 --> 00:40:07,980
you know, dirty secrets and then was disappeared

817
00:40:08,060 --> 00:40:09,740
because he never told them where it was.

818
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:14,460
So he's just been on like a black site for 30 years with like no trial.

819
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,580
The British haven't claimed him because they couldn't.

820
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:21,180
And the U.S. like can't acknowledge that they have him.

821
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:25,020
And it winds up, you know, he would have been arrested

822
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:30,300
like the year after his last James Bond movie would have taken place.

823
00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:32,380
And I think that is largely it.

824
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:38,380
Can we just say he is and then becomes canon in the cage verse?

825
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:39,900
I'm cool with that.

826
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:45,020
Well, especially because the NCU is a multiversal concept, as we now know.

827
00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:49,700
Well, also, this movie ends at the start of National Treasure.

828
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:53,740
Yeah, right. It does tie in like the movie ends with Nick Cage

829
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:56,740
and his new newlywed wife

830
00:40:57,180 --> 00:41:01,100
going to a church and stealing the leg off a pew,

831
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,820
which had the microfilm in it.

832
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,540
And like the last line of the film is Nick Cage being like, Hey, honey,

833
00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:08,220
you want to know who killed JFK the best?

834
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,780
So, yeah, this movie just leads right into National Treasure.

835
00:41:11,780 --> 00:41:16,100
Because then he's like, I don't need to be a government chemical

836
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,820
scientist anymore.

837
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:22,220
I need to go find this goddamn treasure that the United States has been hiding.

838
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,740
And I'm changing my name to Benjamin Franklin.

839
00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:29,660
Yes. So Michael Bay did have an idea for a sequel to this,

840
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:34,020
where Nick Cage's character Stanley is on the run from the government

841
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:37,180
because of the microfiche, and he has to go track down Mason

842
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:39,540
to like help him get away.

843
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:40,740
I'm glad they didn't do it.

844
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:42,820
I'm glad they didn't do it.

845
00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:45,220
National Treasure is perfect as a sequel to this.

846
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:50,140
I just love also that this is like the quintessential 90s

847
00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:55,780
one off action movie that is not concerned with the collateral damage.

848
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,020
It's not concerned really with the outcome.

849
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:02,500
It's just like we're going to go blow some shit up in the San Francisco Bay area.

850
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,180
Is everybody on board? Great. Let's go.

851
00:42:05,380 --> 00:42:08,300
All right. So where do you put this on the performance review?

852
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:10,940
Then good cage, good movie, good cage, good movie.

853
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:12,580
Yeah, that's fine.

854
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:14,940
Wow. Nick, well, OK.

855
00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:17,420
So this has been my favorite action film so far.

856
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:19,020
Yeah, Nick, you have.

857
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:20,540
But you've actually been kind of quiet on this one.

858
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:22,260
What what are your feelings on this flick?

859
00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:26,780
I think it's it's the kind of movie where like it's great.

860
00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:28,100
Nostalgic Lee.

861
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,220
But then when I started to like critically watch it and like

862
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:36,820
it doesn't have as much peak to me as it does just in my memory.

863
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,620
I'm sorry. The science doesn't hold up as well as face off.

864
00:42:39,860 --> 00:42:42,780
Yeah. Penis swapping technology, swapping technology.

865
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:44,860
No, I think you're not come around on that.

866
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:46,980
I think they are actually penis twins.

867
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:48,740
I think they're dick twins.

868
00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:50,260
Travolta and cage. Oh, OK.

869
00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:55,420
I was thinking Sean Connery. No, I mean, maybe they had great chemistry.

870
00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:56,860
Can you have dick triplets?

871
00:42:56,860 --> 00:43:01,020
That's Eric. What you would know what a triptych is, right?

872
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,060
So would America. Yeah.

873
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:04,540
So I would know.

874
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:10,900
A triptych, a triptych of like all three like it would take the same

875
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:12,100
things or whatever.

876
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,220
But I mean, different size.

877
00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:16,700
Dicks would all be the same, but their thighs would be different.

878
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,820
I kind of want to make that you can put that in the entrance and then

879
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:22,980
underneath, you can just have like the live laugh love.

880
00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:28,900
I just really want to go down a line of what I think all of these actors

881
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:30,260
dicks look like.

882
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:34,940
So starting with OK, starting with Sean Connery,

883
00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:38,700
feel like definitely not a shower.

884
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:43,420
But as soon as it shows, you're like, God damn, like.

885
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:46,060
I was mistaken.

886
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:49,140
Turtleneck, I was yes, like I was mistaken, sir.

887
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:51,700
I I apologize.

888
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,060
Feel like he's also a huge man.

889
00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:56,020
So it's like you got to have some perspective there.

890
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:59,380
Yeah. But like still, like even for that, you're like, whoa, that

891
00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:02,380
it was shocking.

892
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:06,660
Nick Cage feel like his dick very,

893
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:11,820
very big flaccid, which is always kind of weird

894
00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:16,620
and like kind of thin and like difficult getting hard,

895
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:19,580
like difficult to get and maintain, you know.

896
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:22,140
Now, it's Oscar worthy.

897
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:26,140
Is it difficult for him to get it hard or is it difficult for an outsider

898
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:27,140
to get it hard?

899
00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:31,060
Why don't we just work his sister's only he know how to work it.

900
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:32,340
One yogurt on the toes.

901
00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:33,180
Yogurt. Yeah.

902
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:38,140
He he is an expert on the hardware that he operates.

903
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,020
Do you know what I'm saying?

904
00:44:40,020 --> 00:44:42,900
Everybody else clapped enough cheeks at this point, too,

905
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:44,660
like you got to bring your a game.

906
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:46,580
Yeah, like you got to know.

907
00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:49,620
And he's like, I could have this done in 10 seconds.

908
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:54,220
And like this is going to be a whole ordeal if someone else is interacting with it.

909
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:57,860
But like on the surface, though, incredibly impressive.

910
00:44:57,860 --> 00:45:00,020
But then you're like ultimately disappointed.

911
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:01,660
I need you to hit John Travolta last.

912
00:45:01,660 --> 00:45:05,500
But I also think that we are going to have our second podcast

913
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,420
be Meredith describes celebrity genitals.

914
00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:12,100
And it'll just be you doing this for like 30 minutes an episode.

915
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,780
I would super love that because I have a lot of opinions.

916
00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:17,060
OK, so Travolta.

917
00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:23,700
Real coke, real coke can on that guy, I think, just like

918
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,660
Chody is a motherfucker, just like really.

919
00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:28,820
Chody motherfucker.

920
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:32,500
Yeah, like it's not it's not long, but it's like girthy.

921
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:33,220
You know what I mean?

922
00:45:33,220 --> 00:45:37,100
To the point that it's almost like like the length wasn't going to be an issue,

923
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:41,780
but like we need like a lot of lube in this situation because like this.

924
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:44,620
I appreciate the the penis evaluations.

925
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:47,100
Good predictions, prognostications.

926
00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:49,020
Yeah, those are prognostications.

927
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:51,660
Those are my completely.

928
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:54,580
Completely factual, 100 percent accurate,

929
00:45:54,740 --> 00:45:58,860
well researched opinions about Sean Connery, Nick Cage

930
00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:01,580
and John Travolta's genitalia.

931
00:46:01,580 --> 00:46:05,420
Yeah, yeah, big meaty cocks.

932
00:46:06,620 --> 00:46:09,180
Do we want to do quotes and start to kind of tie this up?

933
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:12,660
Yeah, I think we unless there's other like really specific things

934
00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:14,220
that anyone has about the movie.

935
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:15,380
I think we can probably go watch it.

936
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:16,780
It's amazing. Go watch it.

937
00:46:16,780 --> 00:46:17,820
It's amazing.

938
00:46:18,580 --> 00:46:19,940
There's no boat chase.

939
00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:25,020
There is no boat, which is which is weird because it's about the.

940
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:26,900
I mean, it's like in the water.

941
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:27,980
It's about the rock.

942
00:46:27,980 --> 00:46:29,020
Well, it's about the rock.

943
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:30,180
It's not about the water.

944
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:31,900
It's about the boat on rocks.

945
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:36,460
Actually, when you boat on rocks, there's usually just disaster.

946
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:38,180
Yeah, it's bad news.

947
00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:40,820
Any any sea captain will tell you that.

948
00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:43,060
Meredith, do you have a quote for this film as a guess?

949
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:43,980
You could go first.

950
00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:47,180
I feel like everything that Sean Connery says is amazing

951
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:49,180
and everything that Cage says is amazing.

952
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:52,780
So anything that they say at any point in this film is my favorite quote.

953
00:46:53,260 --> 00:46:59,580
Nick, I don't find it to be like a remarkably quotable movie.

954
00:46:59,580 --> 00:47:00,620
I don't know.

955
00:47:00,620 --> 00:47:03,060
Like I said, this movie's fine.

956
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:06,060
But if I had to say something,

957
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:13,620
I would just pick out the the haircutting scene where like

958
00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:22,340
Sean Connery is getting his haircut and by the peak 90s, like flamboyant.

959
00:47:22,820 --> 00:47:27,620
The worst gay stereotype of the mid 90s.

960
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:31,260
Yeah. And so Mason just asks, am I out of style?

961
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:34,900
And Goodspeed just says, unless you're a 20 year old,

962
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:38,660
unless you're a 20 year old guitarist from Seattle, it's a grunge thing.

963
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,780
And it's like, that line sucked.

964
00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:45,660
Actually, every time he opened his mouth to talk about music, I resented him.

965
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:49,460
That's totally fair.

966
00:47:49,460 --> 00:47:52,180
I might. I got I got a Sean Connery.

967
00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:53,300
I'm a Beatle man.

968
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,620
I'll do a Kate. My cage first.

969
00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:58,780
Well, I'm one of those fortunate people who like my job, sir.

970
00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:01,540
Got my first chemistry set when I was seven.

971
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:02,700
Blew my eyebrows off.

972
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,340
We never saw the cat again, but into it ever since my Connery is

973
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:11,460
when they're it's just the two of them and they're about to go like raid the rock.

974
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:14,980
Sean Connery goes in your best.

975
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:17,740
Luna's losers always whine about the best

976
00:48:18,580 --> 00:48:20,620
winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

977
00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:23,420
That was a great one. I loved that.

978
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:25,500
Sean, I need your help on this.

979
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:27,180
OK, who am I? Who am I?

980
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:28,820
Oh, you are his fiance.

981
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:30,980
Oh, you didn't mean what you just said, did you?

982
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:34,220
When? Just right now, when you were talking about

983
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:37,060
bringing a child into the world and it being an act of cruelty.

984
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:39,340
Well, I meant it at the time.

985
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:43,220
Stanley, at the time, you said it seven and a half seconds ago.

986
00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:46,300
Well, gosh, kind of a lot has happened since then.

987
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:50,140
That's a good line.

988
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:52,740
And of course, you know, when when they're actually caught

989
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:55,140
and in their cells, you broke out.

990
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,420
Let me see if I can get the straight down the incubator chute

991
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:03,220
on the mine car through the tunnels to the power plant under the steam engine.

992
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:06,860
That was really cool, by the way, and into the cistern, though,

993
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:09,140
the through the intake pipe.

994
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:13,500
But how in the name of Zeus's butthole, did you get out of your cell?

995
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:16,500
I only ask because in our current situation,

996
00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:21,260
well, it could prove to be useful information, maybe just so many

997
00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:23,260
peak cage moments.

998
00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:25,540
That's why he really starts like cage out.

999
00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:28,380
Yeah, he turns it on in the latter half for sure.

1000
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,500
There's one more I needed just when he's, you know,

1001
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:33,620
disarming the last missile.

1002
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:36,100
Listen, I think we got off on the wrong foot.

1003
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,460
Stan Goodspeed, FBI.

1004
00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:39,740
Let's talk music.

1005
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:41,380
Do you like Elton John song?

1006
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:42,980
Rocket Man?

1007
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,500
I don't like soft ass shit.

1008
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:50,820
Oh, you. Oh, oh, oh, oh, well, I only bring it up because it's you.

1009
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:52,980
You're the rocket man.

1010
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:56,260
And then launches a missile into the guy's chest. That was kind of rad.

1011
00:49:56,260 --> 00:50:00,100
Which didn't kill him falling out of the building

1012
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,580
and then being impaled on a fence post kills.

1013
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,060
Oh, yeah, I forgot that that's how that guy ended.

1014
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,820
I think the most gruesome missile, the missile probably did the work,

1015
00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:10,060
but then it has to impale the fucker.

1016
00:50:10,060 --> 00:50:12,900
I love that the missile did the work.

1017
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:15,340
Speaking of people falling out of windows.

1018
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:19,140
Yeah, it was robbing the place and like they were using nonlethal

1019
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:22,300
like it's bean bags and they bean bag a guy.

1020
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,220
But then he gets thrown out a window and like down

1021
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:27,900
like at least one floor.

1022
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:30,180
Yeah. And it just like dies on the concrete.

1023
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:33,460
I know it was good use of nonlethal weapons. Yeah.

1024
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:37,140
Thanks, Michael. Good shit.

1025
00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:39,780
So, I mean, I think that takes us to the end.

1026
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:40,820
You know, what do you guys think?

1027
00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:42,580
Actually, that brought us back to the beginning.

1028
00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:46,220
That's true. It's no, it's of course the rock. Yeah.

1029
00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:49,660
I know you're kind of begrudging on that one, but no, I mean, it's

1030
00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:52,300
they can't all be Bangkok dangerous.

1031
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,020
I had to look to see what this was going to go up against

1032
00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:58,180
just in case Bangkok Dangerous would be a better matchup.

1033
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,260
But I think it's a disservice to everybody if we just start cheating

1034
00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:04,140
and choosing things that way.

1035
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:06,340
The Rock is fine. No, it's not a bad movie.

1036
00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:09,260
I'm not anti the rock. I'm just.

1037
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:11,580
Yeah, I mean, the rock is definitely like of an era.

1038
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:17,340
It is strongly of an era and it is very of a specific moment in time.

1039
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,580
And I think if you can just shut your brain off

1040
00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:25,180
and not think about it critically, you're like, yeah, that's usually not a problem

1041
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:29,020
for me. I mean, look, Nick, I wasn't going to make assumptions

1042
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:32,060
and be like, you know, Nick, how you always do.

1043
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:35,060
Yeah, with my sandwiches and such.

1044
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:38,540
Yeah, with sandwich with all of the sandwiches you eat.

1045
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:41,180
Like it's just it's a whole thing.

1046
00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:45,980
I will also say, though, Lindy West, who is a film critic

1047
00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:50,820
and a really funny writer, wrote like an essay about the rock.

1048
00:51:50,820 --> 00:51:53,820
And I highly recommend if you can find it, definitely read it

1049
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:55,980
because it's a it's a delight.

1050
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,060
It's just the best.

1051
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,260
I don't do a lot of academic reading if I can avoid it.

1052
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:02,620
Especially not for this.

1053
00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:07,220
This academic writing isn't so academic as much as basically

1054
00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:11,780
just everything I said about the rock she wrote down on paper.

1055
00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:16,540
If you could get somebody to maybe just film it

1056
00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:18,780
or record it on a podcast that you can listen to later.

1057
00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:22,540
And actually, I mean, on occasion, that would literally not work

1058
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:24,180
because I don't listen to podcasts.

1059
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:25,300
You listen to this podcast.

1060
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:28,140
Did Lindy West describe celebrity penises?

1061
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:29,660
Lindy West is not.

1062
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:32,140
And you know what? That's the X factor I bring.

1063
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:33,940
You know what I'm saying?

1064
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:35,540
Perfect. Oh, yeah.

1065
00:52:35,540 --> 00:52:37,660
Do you have anything else you want to plug, Meredith? Phrasing.

1066
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:40,700
Shut up.

1067
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:45,580
I know my audience and current and at the moment, my audience is my ex wife.

1068
00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:48,740
I'm going to not take the bait on that one.

1069
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:51,820
If people want to see my misadventures in owning a house,

1070
00:52:51,820 --> 00:52:56,100
they can check me out on Instagram at Lawn Daddy Lives Here.

1071
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,940
Great name. Thank you.

1072
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:01,100
Other than that, no, I would just encourage everybody

1073
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,700
to listen to this great podcast called Cage Match.

1074
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,340
Has these two great folks on it.

1075
00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:09,220
Sean and Nick, they're great.

1076
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:11,500
Peter's there as well. It's amazing.

1077
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:12,700
I love it.

1078
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:14,820
You and subscribe.

1079
00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:16,620
Wow. Doing all our work for. Yeah, actually.

1080
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:19,980
So I'm really excited for next time because we're finally watching

1081
00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:21,420
the unbearable weight of massive talent.

1082
00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:25,140
Yeah. So people can finally stop yelling at us for not having seen that movie.

1083
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:27,020
Yeah. Which would be really nice.

1084
00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:28,620
I have limited time.

1085
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:31,620
We're doing unbearable weight of massive talents.

1086
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:32,980
A lot of words. And what else?

1087
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:36,660
The trust, which is him and Elijah Wood.

1088
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,660
Yeah. And they've got cool mustaches.

1089
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:39,780
Oh, OK. That's right.

1090
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:41,980
And I think they do a heist. I don't know.

1091
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:46,100
Yeah, they're like time traveling heistians.

1092
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:47,580
Heistians. Yeah.

1093
00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:51,180
Who are pulling off a job against.

1094
00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:54,820
I think it was a Christy Yamaguchi.

1095
00:53:54,860 --> 00:53:56,540
Yeah, I think you got it. That's perfect.

1096
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:58,180
So stay tuned for that one.

1097
00:53:58,180 --> 00:54:01,140
Please do rate, review and subscribe.

1098
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:02,620
It is very helpful.

1099
00:54:02,620 --> 00:54:04,980
It'd be great to have any other reviews other than Meredith,

1100
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:07,100
although that was a great one. We really appreciate it.

1101
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,940
I'll come find you at your house and make you write a review for this podcast.

1102
00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:13,260
Don't think I won't do it.

1103
00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:15,180
I have a lot of airline miles.

1104
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:18,580
Laundaddy is going to come for you, but not enough to be here in person

1105
00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:20,620
for the podcast. Yeah. What the fuck, Meredith?

1106
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:22,860
Yeah. Where are those air miles now?

1107
00:54:22,860 --> 00:54:27,500
Look, I use them sparingly and only for vengeance purposes.

1108
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:29,660
Nick, this is for fun.

1109
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:33,900
If you want to, if you want to interact with us at all,

1110
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,180
you can find us on Reddit or Twitter or Instagram.

1111
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:38,740
But Reddit is probably the best one.

1112
00:54:38,740 --> 00:54:40,460
That's a cage match pod.

1113
00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:43,100
If you are. Nick's only fans.

1114
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:46,940
Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's definitely butts and dicks there. Yeah.

1115
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:50,460
Not his that weirdly enough. No.

1116
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:52,660
Let me finish.

1117
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:55,300
Dear God, I'm trying to help you finish.

1118
00:54:57,820 --> 00:54:59,860
You're trying to help a lot of people finish, Nick.

1119
00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:02,460
That's your whole only fans thing.

1120
00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:04,700
That's the whole point, right?

1121
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:08,300
If you are interested in supporting us, we are on Patreon at Patreon.com

1122
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,620
slash cage match.

1123
00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:14,180
Special thanks to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico,

1124
00:55:14,180 --> 00:55:19,180
Matt and Adam, and the special, special thanks to our cage dancers.

1125
00:55:19,340 --> 00:55:21,420
A name we totally came up with ourselves.

1126
00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:24,860
Ira and John Meredith, thank you for being here.

1127
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:26,340
Thank you all for having me.

1128
00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:29,100
I'm so sorry for everything I've done and said.

1129
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:31,180
That's not true.

1130
00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:32,620
No, it's not. I think this turned out great.

1131
00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:35,620
I have zero regrets.

1132
00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:37,740
Nick, sing us out.

1133
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:39,740
Bye bye.

1134
00:55:39,740 --> 00:55:42,140
I don't know the rest of that song.

1135
00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:44,020
That's the only important part.

1136
00:55:44,020 --> 00:55:46,620
The part where my voice cracks like I'm still in puberty.

1137
00:55:47,820 --> 00:55:48,820
Yes.

1138
00:55:58,940 --> 00:55:59,420
All right.

1139
00:55:59,420 --> 00:56:01,740
So I just want to say this because I saw this and laughed.

1140
00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:04,740
The assistant prop master was named Skip Crank.

1141
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:09,260
Man, you never skip a crank.

1142
00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:11,460
You can't get backed up.

1143
00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:13,660
Not on a Sunday.

1144
00:56:13,660 --> 00:56:14,460
Well.

1145
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:18,420
What is going on out there?

1146
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:19,580
Lightning we established.

1147
00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:21,300
I know, but it's weird.

1148
00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:23,300
I'm not used to hearing like big thunder.

1149
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:24,580
You all have been away. I'm scared.

1150
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:27,500
Man, you all have been away from the East Coast for too long.

1151
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:30,620
Well, I just saw thunder Peter.

1152
00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:33,180
I don't know if either of you have ever lived in the East Coast.

1153
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:37,580
Please don't call me big thunder.

1154
00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:42,100
I just want the listeners at home to know Sean has a tattoo on the back.

1155
00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:43,820
We don't need to do this.

1156
00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:45,500
That says tethered virtue.

1157
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:49,300
That's from a poem that he wrote when I was 17.

1158
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:51,540
When he was 17.

1159
00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:53,100
I'm back in the conversation.

1160
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,660
Let's not.

1161
00:56:54,660 --> 00:56:57,060
What do you have to do with an Inuit?

1162
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:59,740
And then and he has a tattooed on the back of his neck.

1163
00:56:59,740 --> 00:57:00,860
It's beautiful.

1164
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:03,300
Like it is a beautiful script tattoo.

1165
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:07,300
But when I first met Sean ages ago, I like asked him about it.

1166
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:09,500
And he was like, I don't want to talk about it.

1167
00:57:09,580 --> 00:57:12,340
And then like several years later, I got the full story.

1168
00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:14,500
And I was just like, this is the best thing ever.

1169
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:15,540
And I love it.

1170
00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:20,100
Someday I'm going to get a tattoo of Guy Fieri on my butt cheek.

1171
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:22,460
And it's just going to be his face.

1172
00:57:22,460 --> 00:57:25,420
And it's going to say welcome to flavor town around it.

1173
00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:25,900
Perfect.

1174
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:27,460
Fuck, yes.

1175
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:56,460
It's the perfect tattoo.

