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Oh god. Oh my god.

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Fuuuuck!

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It's the normal casual conversation that we always have, but

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like it'd be weird if we actually just started with

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Welcome to Cage Match.

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Hello and welcome to Cage Match. A roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage, where we take

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64 Nicolas Cage movies, pick them up head to head and decide the best, cagiest, most watchable

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cage movie of all time.

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Yeah, we can't just start with that.

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I'm Nick.

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This is weird. I don't like it.

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Yeah, see? Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah, it felt wrong.

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Oh well, whatever. This is Cage Match. Welcome back. I'm Nick.

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I'm Sean.

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And I am producer Peter. This is a bonus episode.

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You're welcome.

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So this is just going to go out on the off week. Oh, we're going to put this. No, you have to put

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this one on second. You literally just said at the end of the last episode.

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We're going to do a bonus episode.

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Fuck. Fine.

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You did this to yourself, Peter.

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Yeah, I mean, I can change the editing.

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We have the power.

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I can just leave that part out.

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That'd be wild. Peter editing himself out.

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Ooh, yeah. I always put myself in more.

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Yeah, you're just at home recording like on your phone.

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Oh man.

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It's weird when he records him when he records our jokes and then dubs himself in telling our jokes.

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I do it better. I have better delivery.

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This is a bonus episode. Nick and I this last week had watched the old way,

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Nicholas Cage's newest film in his first Western.

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We've watched it twice. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time when I wasn't.

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Oh, yeah, he had a lot of sandwiches. Nick, why don't you break this one down for us real quick?

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It's like Shane, if the kid were cooler.

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All right. There you have it.

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I think that's actually pretty succinct.

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What if someone hasn't seen Shane?

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Go see Shane for context and everything I'm about to say about this movie.

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We'll be back in 90 minutes.

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Yeah.

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So why don't you give them a slightly less succinct overview of what this movie's about.

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So Nicholas Cage plays Colton Briggs, who is like a head hunter or like a bounty hunter in

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old Western times, specifically. Was it Wyoming?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So he's like the baddest gun out there.

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The movie starts off with his killer mustache. Like this thing looks so good.

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I like how they try and de-age Nick Cage by giving him this big bushy mustache to cover his face.

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That only makes him look older.

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Yeah. It's only there to like hide those really deep nasal labial folds of his.

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Good use of the lingo.

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Yeah.

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But all it does is point directly to his turquoise.

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Always say nasal labial folds if I'm going to refer to that area,

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because it's just the nasal labial folds.

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It sounds like labia.

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Yeah. It's hilarious.

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Genitals. Hey, man, I'm an equal opportunity genital conversationalist.

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So yes, Nick Cage is the baddest bounty hunter in the old west.

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Yeah. So he and his mustache bring in this guy who's going to get hung. So Sean and I normally

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don't watch these movies together, but I got to like pepper him with commentary while watching it.

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And vice versa.

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Yeah. Although you didn't talk too much. You were real full.

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So when they go to hang this dude, the intent was to hang him from the mercantile sign off

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of this shop. And it's just a sign that's like cantilevered out. It's like a two by six.

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It's like that is not how you hang a dude. Wild Westerners.

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But they go ahead and they like, you know, hang him. And then the guy series of events dies.

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Fast forward in time.

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OK, so outlaws try and like get their buddy out of out of trouble.

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His son's there. Nick Cage, you know, shoots out all the bad guys.

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Yep. The lawman who Nick Cage brought him into gets gut shot.

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So Nick Cage, like 100 percent pay off the dude. And as he's going, the guy who was getting

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hanged goes to shoot a cage. The man who brought him in, Nick Cage just turns around, shoots him

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close up on the face 20 years later. So at this point, Nick Cage would be.

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I mean, we don't know. People just looked older back then because life was harder.

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He was a hard 16, maybe 28 in the beginning. And now he's like 48 and a total square.

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Does he have the mustache? No, no way.

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And he's wearing like a Wild West suit that doesn't look like it's tailored well.

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It does not fit.

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Why don't they have a proper tailor in the Wild West?

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But he's he's happily married.

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They have giant mechanical spiders in the Wild West. Why can't they have proper tailors?

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No, that's the wild Wild West. Oh.

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But he's happily married because, you know, because his wife's hanging their white linens.

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And they've got a daughter that he doesn't quite get on with.

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He does not get on with humans well. It's kind of established later in the movie,

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like he just doesn't emote. He has no emotional connection to people or things and stuff.

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His wife's like, you know, you have to walk your daughter to school.

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Your dad is going to walk you to school. And they're both like, but why?

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And they start walking and we get like jaunty music, which is really setting us up for like

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a father daughter comedy, which this movie kind of just is.

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Yes. It's a father daughter comedy with vengeance and shooting.

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We go through this prolonged scene of them like kind of sniping back and forth at each other

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and just arguing about how things should be done.

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He owns the mercantile store in this new town they're living in.

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Yeah, not very creative. Like the last job he did, the owner of the mercantile store was there.

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And now he's the mercantile store. Good content.

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He gets a customer comes in who tells him this really prolonged story.

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Oh, man, about shit apples, about shit apples.

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And this gets to my biggest elaborate.

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Well, this guy comes in and he's all like, well, every year my mama makes a pie for the church

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bake sale or potluck or whatever.

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Would you know she got her apples from old Mr. Johnson.

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Like that tree grew right next to the outhouse.

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And I tell you, I think the shit from the outhouse got down into the roots and made

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the apples taste like shit.

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And once you know it, the pie tasted like shit.

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So this year she doesn't want to do a pie.

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She's going to bake a cake.

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And meanwhile, it keeps cutting back to Nicolas Cage.

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Like it's just like face and face.

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Yeah, Sean insists that they were never in the same.

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Nick Cage is on set for maybe seven days because every scene with him is just cuts to him

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reacting intently to things.

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But it's just the way like he hates having to interact with other people.

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Like his character just hates socializing with people.

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He has no social empathy, but he just like gets angrier and angrier every time they cut

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back to him throughout this story.

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Like he's just pissed that anybody would talk to him instead of just tell him what they want.

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So he like gets to the end of this guy's story and Cage is just like angry and he's sitting

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there and he's just like, is there something you wanted?

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And the guy's like, oh, some flour.

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The only last sounds like it sucked.

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It was clean, though, according to this film.

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Except for that one guy.

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Not this guy.

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There's another guy later who's dirty.

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Well, this guy was dirty, too.

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This guy was.

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He was filthy.

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That's the whole.

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So like when Nick Cage goes to like get the.

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This is the kind of Peter loves the most.

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Yeah, we're getting the deep cuts here.

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You asked us to elaborate.

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I did.

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I brought this on.

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So when Cage goes to like get the bag of flour, this dirty man who tells us the story

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about the shit apples goes to steal like a handful of jelly beans from the jar that's on the

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counter.

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But Cage's daughter wasn't able to go to school because the teacher was sick.

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Has a box.

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Probably die.

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Yeah, that's what the kid suspects.

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And so like the kids just watching him steal these and the guy notices and he like takes

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the jelly beans back out of his pocket and puts them back in the jar.

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I wasn't I wasn't really going to steal them.

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That was just a fun game.

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Me and your daddy play.

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So yeah, back at the homestead, some strangers show up while wife is putting up the laundry

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to dry and they kind of like are creeps.

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There's a guy there who does his best Tom Hardy impression.

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He really tries hard and Clint Howard's there, but not hardy enough.

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Yeah.

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And Clint Howard is there as Eustace.

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And that is by far one of the top three characters in this movie following only Nick Cage and

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daughter.

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What about the Marshall?

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You know, the exposition machine.

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Oh, yeah.

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The Marshall just drinking.

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Your father sure was a piece of shit.

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Sorry for my language, but he was a terrible human being.

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So these guys show up and they're creeps.

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They kind of like they're in and around the house like Eustace is inside the house.

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She kicks him in the balls.

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He's like, oh, you get me the balls.

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It was great.

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And then they kill her in the garage.

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Sorry, it's a barn.

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The horse garage.

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Yeah, the horse garage.

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So when Nick Cage and daughter show up at the end of the day, there's just a bunch of

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Marshalls there that were eating their food, hanging out.

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Yeah.

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Eating all of Nick Cage's food and like making themselves at home in the house.

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This is actually a Fourth Amendment violation.

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Soldiers aren't supposed to do that.

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Know your constitution at least as well as me to like questioningly say, quote,

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amendments. Good thing Michael doesn't listen to this thing.

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Fuck.

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He said he's going to wait till we're done with the first season, then just mainline it all.

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So I've got months until he hears that.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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He'll catch you up, though.

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Yeah, you will.

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Thanks for listening, Michael.

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Sure.

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Rate and subscribe, Michael.

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Also join our Patreon.

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Yeah, we're going to backcharge you, too.

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So the Marshalls don't have to be in the house.

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Tell them that these people killed his wife.

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And so Colton's just like, ah, shit.

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The Marshalls sitting there getting drunk and telling the daughter,

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like what a terrible person her daddy used to be.

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And now he like just used to kill tons of people and this and that.

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And there's like a whole character thing for the daughter where she's like, oh, is

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daddy going to like what's going to stop him from killing people now,

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now that mom's not here to rein him in?

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And so like the Marshall leaves, the daughter goes to bed.

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And like when Nick Cage pulls all of his guns and stuff out and he's like,

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you're going to go get revenge.

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I guess he decides he's not going to be a single dad.

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So he goes upstairs and the daughter just like calmly wakes up while he's standing there

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at like the ladder to her loft.

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With a gun pointed at her.

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Yeah, just pointing a revolver at her.

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And she just stares at him and says something along the lines of like,

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Mama wouldn't like you pointing that at me.

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And so he decides, I guess that's true.

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He takes the daughter and they go get on a horse and start riding off to get revenge.

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And then they chase down outlaws.

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There's ambushes.

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This movie doesn't know what it wants to be.

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It either wants to be like a feel good father daughter,

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like coming to like them working their way out or it's a revenge story.

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And usually it's neither.

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I really liked it.

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I enjoyed it a lot on my second viewing.

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It's I like it on my first view.

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Again, I was really full.

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I'm a visual person.

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You're very full.

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Very full.

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OK, I'm a visual person.

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Like the first scene of this is that shot of the mercantile sign that is brand new white.

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Like nothing in the Old West is dirty except for like two characters.

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The fact that also at night everyone's just lit from the same side,

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even if they're facing each other is really weird.

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Yeah, that was great.

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So it's just there's a lot of decisions made.

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I looked up the director a little bit.

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I love that his name is Brett Donahue.

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Yeah, yeah, Donahue.

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And he did Bruce Willis's last film.

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But so there's this whole like relationship with the daughter of

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clearly they both have some anti-social that in and of itself

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could make an interesting movie set in the Old West.

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It is not something we're ever going to return to except for one amazing scene,

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which do you want to describe this one amazing scene, Nick?

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Yeah, sure.

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The marshals got ambushed by the outlaws and there was one guy who was going to go back to town

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to get help for the people who were shot and stuff.

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And Nick Cage and daughter are there and they see this horse coming and they're like,

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well, we need a second horse because we'll never catch up with just one horse.

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So we're going to set an ambush where the daughter is going to distract him and Nick Cage will take

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the horse.

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So she was like, well, what am I going to do?

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He's like, I don't know, cry or something.

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And they established she doesn't know how to cry.

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And so Nick's like, well, just think about that time where such and such lady lost her baby.

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And she was crying, like looking for her kid.

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And he's just like, where, where my baby, my baby, where, where.

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And so the daughter just takes that as a literal interpretation of how people cry.

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So this guy comes riding up on a horse and there's this kid,

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like this little girl in like pants and western hat and stuff,

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just standing in the middle of a road, just staring at him going where, where, where my baby,

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my baby, where.

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And the guy's like, a baby?

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And it's like, what?

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It is an astounding sequence.

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Yeah, it's great.

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But then later when they catch up with the marshals and she's talking to them,

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there's one marshal that got shot like in the leg and he won't give up his gun.

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Nick Cage distracts him or something.

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And the daughter just like steps on the gunshot wound in his leg.

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And so the guy like gives up the shotgun and he's sitting there crying.

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And she's staring at him and she's like, he does that much better.

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I'm going to take that performance next.

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So it's like, oh, God, you're a psychopath.

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Yeah. And that's kind of the end of that story, that arc of that story.

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Yeah. Oh, did she get to use the crying again?

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No.

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I felt like she did cry later, but.

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Well, she well, she actually does cry when her father dies.

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Oh, yeah, that's true.

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Spoiler.

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It's a Western.

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Yeah.

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And I said it was very Shane like, but better.

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So, yeah, the criminals, they broke out of jail and the lead guy who is the kid that

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Nick that Colton shot at the beginning of the film's father.

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So he's out for revenge.

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He promised all of them mucho dinero.

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So when they get to where the money is, it actually just it's a bunch of pesos.

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Right.

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Because they're going to jump the border and the pesos will be worth something.

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But American dollars wouldn't or whatever.

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Like, you know, he promised them, you know, a fortune, but it just it isn't any good here.

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So they have to stick with him to Mexico.

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Yeah, it is smart.

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And then later there's this whole thing where he's going to like rip them off by like

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wrapping strips of newspaper in it.

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That doesn't go anywhere either.

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Nothing in this movie goes anywhere is what I'm saying.

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Eventually, we get the showdown.

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Yeah.

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Every attempt at like Tom Foolery gets foiled.

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Yeah.

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Again, Clint Howard is kind of the best part of this film.

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Clint Howard is.

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And no one's ever said that about Clint Howard before.

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I mean, I didn't know who he was until we were watching this movie.

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So I definitely hadn't said it.

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But now now I have.

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I mean, he does look like a crazed version of Ron Howard.

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It's like if you left Ron Howard out in the sun too long.

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But then put him in like a Confederate like war outfit and you've got him in this movie.

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It's like if you put a Richie Cunningham action figure in the microwave.

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Yeah, that joke's great for boomers.

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Our target audience.

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I don't know who our target audience is.

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Apparently, it's just our friends.

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Yes.

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But we do get we do get one decent gunfight.

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Yeah, no boat chases, but.

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But yeah, Colton gets the shot in the arm.

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And at the final showdown, they've kidnapped his daughter.

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And the final showdown, Colton can either shoot the guy who killed his wife or shoot

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Hustas and save his daughter.

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So he shoots Hustas.

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Bad guy shoots Colton.

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Then daughter shoots bad guy.

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Then the exposition machine of the marshal shows up again,

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explains how he could take her in, but would only wind up looking the fool.

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If you know, everything that came out about him and his crew came out.

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So he's going to let the daughter go back home.

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Yeah, where there's nothing for her.

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Yeah.

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Like even their house is burned down.

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She has only the pants she's wearing and the horse and her dad's saddle.

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That's it.

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Oh, there's one other great scene in this because she goes into town

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to kind of see where the bad guys are.

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But the whole plan is she's going to just ride in town,

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say she's picking up something from the mercantile store from

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for her parents who live in a little farmstead.

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And she gets into the store and gets distracted for a second.

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And when the store owner is like, can I help you?

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She just verbatim does the my mama was going to make a pie

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like speech from the movie and the shit apples.

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And the guy's like, who's Mr Johnson?

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Because they're not in Mexico yet, but everyone in this town is Mexican.

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Oh, I thought you were doing like an Indian accent

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because he ran a mercantile like an old west 711.

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No, I'm not.

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I'm not that racist.

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Although it doesn't bother me that they're still in America

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and everything in this town in Santa Rosa where they're in the town of Santa Rosa.

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But everything is like, you know, everything's in English except for the Zapata.

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If you want a sombrero, you go to Zapata Ria.

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If you want to be a shoe store.

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Not where I'm from.

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Zapata means you look, you take your fucking melanin and.

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I don't know, like put it in a shadow box and cherish it for all I care.

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I'm sorry.

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I don't know Spanish well.

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That's I don't either.

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I know. I know. Zapata the up here.

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Yeah. Yeah. So this movie is definitely it's it's a laugh.

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I wouldn't say don't watch it.

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No, definitely watch it.

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No, definitely watch it.

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It's a great fucking movie.

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It's a lot of fun.

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Don't pay twenty five dollars for it.

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How many Clint Howards out of 10 do you rank it?

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Nine and a half. Clint Howard's out of 10.

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Pretty good.

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Which half?

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Bottom.

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The non-talky half.

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The part that got kicked earlier.

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Nine Clint Howards and one Clint Howard's genitalia.

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He was the comedic relief of the bad guys.

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Yeah, he was like he was the

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goofy one that you just didn't feel bad rooting for in the bad guy gang.

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Yeah, if it goes to streaming, watch it.

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Yeah, right now it's on Apple TV and.

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It's $19 to rent.

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So, you know, make your own decisions about that.

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Thank you all for listening to this bonus episode.

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Well, anything else to say on it?

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Wham, wham, my baby, my baby.

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That's that's about it.

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There's one at one point in the film, Clint Howard just goes,

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I'm out of here and like walks, walks off stage left.

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And I'm like, I hope he just like I hope that was him quitting the movie.

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Just his last scene.

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Yeah, I'm out of here.

