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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Are we on hot mics at the moment?

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Yeah. Say something real egregious.

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I don't know what egregious means, so I assume it's racist. Sure.

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Boy, those egregions.

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Let me tell you about that.

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You know what they're like?

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Ancient egregions.

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Ancient egregions.

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Let's talk about the modern egregions.

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This shouldn't be that puzzling.

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We should from the top.

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At this point, it's clear what this is.

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Yeah, I mean, I think we are doing it now.

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The Nicolas Cage buying, selling, wrecking podcast.

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Yeah.

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The all seeing, all dancing.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Nicolas Cage review.

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That's it.

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Jazz hands. All male, all nude.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Cage review. Yes.

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Speaking of the day, welcome back to Cage match colon

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a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage, a podcast where we discuss

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the films and only the films of one Nicolas Cage.

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This week we have I'm Nick.

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Oh, yes. Names.

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Hi, Nick. How are you doing?

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This is your friend, Sean, and co-host of Cage.

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Oh, it's a pleasure to meet you.

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Also, Peter, how are you today? I'm here, too.

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You know, the more comfortable I get at doing this, the worse I get at it.

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Yeah. OK, so to quickly recap, this is 64 Nicolas Cage movies.

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Only Nicolas Cage going head to head, week to week. Got

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bracket style.

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And at the end, there will be one ultimate Victor Nicolas Cage movie

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as chosen by three idiots in the Pacific Northwest, which is definitive.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's how most things are decided.

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This week, we have It Could Happen to You versus Racing with the Moon.

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And maybe for the first time in the history of this entire podcast,

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we get to talk about two good movies.

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Yeah, we'll see about that.

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Oh, nice. Yeah, I like it.

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Oh, but I didn't give up the goat this time.

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It's not my turn to fuck it up.

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It's usually my job.

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I'm trying so hard not to.

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And I did when I started starting this thing.

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So this is an eight and a nine going up against each other.

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So they're they're kind of middling movies,

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which maybe that's how you felt about them.

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I don't know. I mean, up until this point, we've usually had

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last week, not withstanding, we've usually had a banger to a dud,

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a banger to a dud.

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So, yeah, we're talking about

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Racing with the Moon 1984 Nicolas Cage movie.

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So young cage and 1994s.

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It Could Happen to You still youngish, still looking good.

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Which one do we want to jump into first?

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Oh, let's just do Racing with the Moon.

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All right. Pre synopsis.

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Two best buddies, lifelong chums, Henry Hopper Nash, played by Sean Penn

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and Nicky played by Nick Cage are two childhood friends

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who are getting ready to ship off to World War Two.

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And they have three weeks to live their lives as best as possible.

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Hilarity ensues.

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Yeah, they're, you know, high schoolers.

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They're like 17 years old.

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They're going to get into some hijinks in their last six weeks.

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I mean, Nick Cage is definitely the comic relief of this piece.

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Certainly. He plays a second man.

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Yeah, this is a supporting role in this one.

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Definitely more of a Sean Penn picture.

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But could be why it's so good.

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I'm not taking a dig at Nick Cage.

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Don't worry, people. I still love him.

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We do love Nick Cage, but I do have to say, because this is

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just before Birdie, so he has all his teeth.

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Yeah, I checked. I looked.

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We counted. But this is definitely not his best work as an actor.

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Oh, yeah. He gives kind of a tough performance.

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It's I mean, it's not bad. It's not good.

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No, it's very just there.

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I don't know. I think he I still think he did a good job with what it is.

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I agree. He plays kind of just a boozing bowling pin setting.

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He works at a bowling alley.

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that they used the pin setter in the 40s.

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So wacky. It's a wild little contraption.

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So Nicky and Henry, their day jobs are they work at a bowling alley

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and they are pin setters.

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Yeah, they have to like go at the back of the alley, grab pins,

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throw them this device and like push it down and weigh it down

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and then even like adjust the pins.

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Right. While dodging bowling balls.

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From Crispin Glover. From Crispin Glover.

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I was just I want to say right now this week I was amazed

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that all of the supporting cast, there was some really good people.

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With this movie, we had Crispin Glover and Carole Kane's in it.

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Michael Madsen is in there as the the GI with his leg blown off.

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Oh, I didn't even notice that. Yeah.

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So and just like in real life, the time I met Crispin Glover,

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I didn't realize it was Crispin Glover till later.

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Yeah, it was during the credits when I noticed. Yeah, same.

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I love Crispin Glover. For me, that face is the kid from Stranger Things.

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Finn Wolfhardt. Oh.

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I don't say this lightly. That kid should be bullied more.

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I'm going to have to cut that out.

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OK, just cut out the name. Just bleep up. Just quack out the name.

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We're not going to be the podcast of child bullying.

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Yeah, we're already the podcast of woman punching.

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Get it together, man.

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Fair. I mean, if he bleeps out the name, we still could be.

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We're not ready to diversify yet, though.

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We got to we got to get a handle on one thing that we punch.

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Yeah. Only if they set you on fire.

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Yeah, but Crispin Glover is just

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launching bowling balls at him in this scene at Sean Penn.

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Yeah, I mean, it was one of my more enjoyed scenes.

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I mean, straight out of the beginning of this movie, the most comedic aspect

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of the film. Sure.

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They're doing that work. They're busy.

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It's like fast paced.

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And they're just trying to catch up because Henry's just getting on work.

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And Nikki.

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So this is our connection to Bertie is all about boobs.

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Oh, yeah. He loves a good boob. Loves a good boob.

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In fact, is trying to get Henry to go on a double date with him

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because Nikki's girlfriend's parents don't like him.

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I wonder why.

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Hmm. Henry's not really dating.

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So they hire local sex worker played by Carol Kane.

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Yeah. Yep. To Annie, the prostitute.

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Annie, the prostitute sex worker.

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We've established that we only use that.

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Thank you. I think she was credited as Annie, the prostitute.

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Well, Annie, the sex worker 1984 has a lot to learn.

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Get woke 1984. Yeah, come on.

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Yeah. So he hires.

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So, I mean, I don't think money was exchanged.

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They seem to be on pretty good terms.

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Yeah. She she offers.

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She offers them, you know, freebie offers Sean Penn a freebie.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, that was a scene.

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Yeah. What else we got?

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So the whole so the whole larger premise of the film is Sean Penn

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meets a woman who works at the movie theater and the library

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played by Elizabeth McCover.

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Caddy Wenger and decides to woo them in the age old tradition of stocking.

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Remember when stocking was considered romantic?

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Well, he she gets on a bus.

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Yeah. OK. And he jumps on the back of the bus and then jumps off

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and like sneaks around in the bushes to see her go into the big rich people house.

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Yeah. OK, that's fair.

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I don't think he like was trying to woo her by stalking her.

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But I'm just saying it was a trait in movies of this era.

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Yeah. But wrongfully assumes that she comes from money, that she is rich

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when, in fact, her mother is the maid of this house and she just lives in it

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and is friends with the rich girl who does live there.

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Main crux of the film is Henry and Katie trying to figure this whole thing out

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before he goes to war. Right.

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So they have a few weeks to form a relationship.

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All the while, Nicky's in the background.

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No consequences. I'm going to war enough.

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You know, fuck who I want.

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I'm going to kill a bunch of expletives for the Japanese.

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And everything's going to be great.

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And of course, he winds up knocking up his girlfriend and suddenly

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they need an abortion before he leaves town to die.

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A clean abortion. Clean abortions.

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I don't know. The trailer she walks into didn't look that clean.

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I talked about this, but then I was reminded that abortions

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in the 40s were probably not pretty off the books anyways.

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So and it, of course, comes down to that's an expensive procedure.

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They try and raise the money by.

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Well, they try to shark some people at pool because some Navy Navy men.

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Yeah. Sean Penn's character, Henry,

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apparently a really good pool player.

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They take it out to this pool hall and after some convincing by Nicky.

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Yeah. Henry agrees to do this.

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They get out there, go to shark some dudes and end up finding out

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that they were getting played from the beginning. Yeah.

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I thought that was a really good scene. I enjoyed it too.

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I really loved that kind of jazz track that was playing

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while they went through the actual game, once it was like officially on.

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Yeah. They don't have enough money to put 150 down on the game.

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So they get a couple of other Navy men to see.

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And I can't believe I missed that joke.

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A couple of other seamen do it bet on their buddies and they do.

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So suddenly the money's on the table and the guy starts playing a lot better.

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What were they playing? They referred to it as straight pool.

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So it's sort of like an end score.

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And it was just in this case, it was one ball, one point.

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There wasn't they weren't calling out balls in sequential order.

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It was you put a ball in a pocket, you get a point.

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You got to get 100 points to win the game.

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That would go forever.

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There's lots of games that take a long time.

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I guess you're supposed to be drinking while you do these things.

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Yeah, generally.

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You don't want a five minute game. That's boring.

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It was the 40s. You didn't have cell phones.

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You didn't have any other distractions.

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What do people do?

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Well, they knocked people up and got clean abortions.

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I played Pugl with semen.

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Scenes like that wouldn't exist in movies nowadays.

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Like they wouldn't have spent that much time on that setup.

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And I agree with you, Nick, where it's like the music

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and everything about the way it was cut, the tension that came from it,

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even though it still felt kind of like a romp.

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It was really interesting.

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I mean, you just wouldn't see something that takes eight minutes.

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You know, kind of a throwaway scene.

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Like it really doesn't have any effect on the movie, but it's a good one.

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By the time it gets to

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Nikki needs the money to pay for the abortion.

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He's the one who brings up in front of Katie that she's rich.

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She could help.

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And then he's, you know, like, fuck off.

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Don't you always fuck up everything?

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You fuck up my life.

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You know, you're the biggest fuck up.

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And there's the movie doesn't spend that much time on Nick Cage

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and Sean Penn's relationship.

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But then thinking over it, writing up show notes, thinking about the pool scene,

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the fact that they almost got, you know, their heads stomped in by semen.

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I go, no, he does fuck up quite a bit.

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Yeah, he doesn't seem to have like a successful outing on anything

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except touching boobs.

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Yeah, he's pretty good at that.

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Yeah. Talk about the.

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I didn't have a segue out of that one.

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No, I mean, I kind of do because you're talking about some of these antics

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that he gets into.

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And I think one of the other like amusing scenes is the two of them drunk.

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Oh, yes, the tattoo scene.

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So like I said, Nikki is all gung ho America.

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We're going to kill the expletives for Japanese people.

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So they get drunk one night and Nikki wants to get a giant bald eagle

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across his chest.

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And the proprietor of the tattoo shop is like, I'm not going to do that.

246
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I'm going to do you a favor and not tattoo a giant eagle on her chest,

247
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which I've worked in a tattoo shop.

248
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It was a proper response to someone that drunk coming in and demanding a tattoo.

249
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Well, Nikki doesn't take kindly to like, this is a freedom bird.

250
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This is America.

251
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The way the guy gets out of it is just like, how much you got?

252
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They have what? 250 between them.

253
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About 38. Yeah.

254
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About 38. That'll get you a sparrow on the elbow.

255
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You just sparrow on the elbow.

256
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I will say, though, Elizabeth McGovern, Katie loved her character.

257
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Super charming.

258
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The way she goes about wooing Henry Sean Penn.

259
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She tries to kind of initially blow him off by being.

260
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She is set up by her with her friend's cousin,

261
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but her friend doesn't have a date to the roller rink.

262
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So Henry comes in.

263
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She's like, Henry, what are you doing on Christmas Eve?

264
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And tries to get him to commit to plans.

265
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And she's like, great. You're going to go out with my friend here.

266
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I loved Henry's little dumb way of getting into this.

267
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She's like, Christmas Eve, you you've probably got plans with your family.

268
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Right. He's like, oh, yeah.

269
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Family. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I don't have plans.

270
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No. Oh, what's going on?

271
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Oh, my dad, he's and he looks over and just sees a fishing magazine.

272
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And he's like, he's fishing. He Kaiser so say that. Yeah.

273
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It was fun.

274
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I mean, I'm going to do it poorly because I'm not Sean Penn.

275
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But but who is Sean Penn?

276
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My buddy Paul looks a lot like Sean Penn.

277
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And so Paul's Sean Penn. Paul is Sean Penn.

278
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It was good.

279
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She just kind of brings him in with it.

280
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And then, you know, it's a bait and switch.

281
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I do also like how we see that Henry.

282
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Henry's a bit of a rebel. Henry doesn't follow the rules

283
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because he's getting piano lessons at the beginning of the movie.

284
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And he plays pretty well on the piano.

285
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He's like, no, play it like this. No, play it like this.

286
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And he finally gets it.

287
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And then he just does a little ragtime and the piano instructor just stands up,

288
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grabs his coat, throws on his hat.

289
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His mom comes in like, stop it, stop it.

290
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And like, I'm so sorry.

291
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And he just like storms out of the house.

292
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He just can't stand that popular music.

293
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Yeah. Well, he was a pastor.

294
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Was he? Yeah.

295
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It's like the pastor or whatever.

296
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And so that damned rock and roll.

297
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That damned fucking music.

298
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Yeah. Sensibilities were different back then.

299
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Yeah. You could touch a boob, but don't listen to rock and roll.

300
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They had a hard job.

301
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They were having bowling balls thrown at them by Crispin Glover.

302
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Yeah. He had a good arm.

303
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I'm just so intrigued by how bowling alleys used to work.

304
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I know they had to pick up the ball and send it down a ramp.

305
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Every time we go bowling, I keep telling you monkeys could do that job.

306
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And I mean, if Nick Cage could do it, a monkey could do it.

307
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Maybe, maybe.

308
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I would like to see like baboons in the back.

309
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Just big red butts and blue faces.

310
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They could hang upside down while doing it.

311
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It's true. They wouldn't have balls thrown at their legs that way.

312
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I'm just saying like there's a money making scheme here to be made

313
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where we sell a baboon instead of like these $50,000 machines.

314
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I guarantee if we try to sell a baboon,

315
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it will be problematic and not end well for either of us.

316
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Because it will be killed by a baboon.

317
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Yes.

318
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Not even the moral implications of baboon sales.

319
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Just the fact that if we had a baboon, it would kill us.

320
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I'm not versed on monkey law, so I can't say.

321
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But I've watched a few nature documentaries

322
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and I think I would get bit a lot.

323
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They go for the testicles.

324
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They just rip those things right off.

325
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Sons of bitches.

326
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I like my testicles exactly where they are.

327
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I hear the Germans have a thing that.

328
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OK, let's let's get into favorite quotes.

329
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We're getting into my favorite quotes.

330
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OK, well, why don't you just give us your favorite quote?

331
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All right. Yeah. Nick was about to go there.

332
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It's Nick Cage.

333
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Nick Cage talking about talking to Henry.

334
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It's like, I hear the Nazis got this thing comes right at the ground,

335
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goes right for it, blows the whole package right off.

336
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One second, you're John Wayne.

337
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The next your Minnie Mouse.

338
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That was pretty good.

339
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I enjoyed a few other lines than you.

340
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This isn't my favorite.

341
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I'm going to give you two because I like to do that.

342
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When they're at the tattoo shop and the tattoo artist was just like

343
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Bird of Freedom, don't come cheap.

344
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And Nicky just kind of looks at him.

345
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He's he's fucking hammered and he just goes, oh,

346
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it was the only like full Nicholas Cage

347
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experience that we got in this movie.

348
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But it was a pretty good one. Just just looking at.

349
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My actual favorite quote.

350
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They were at their school and their school was doing like a wartime drills

351
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like for training for the girls to go be nurses.

352
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And so nurses girls were like coming around and all the boys had like fake

353
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blood on them and little notes that said like shot multiple times or dead.

354
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And the nurses would take care of them.

355
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Well, this nurse comes up to Henry and Nicky and she's like trying to deal with them.

356
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And Nicky's just like trying to get fresh with this chick.

357
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And she's like, oh, I'll come back when you're more ready for this.

358
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And Nick Cage just goes, no, wait, please, nurse.

359
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I want to show you my wound.

360
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And that really got me. My other one.

361
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Do we want to do this to partner?

362
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OK, you want to I'll be Sean Penn.

363
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All right. Sean Penn does the whole thing about how it's like, you know,

364
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I hate what you always drink.

365
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I hate when you're drinking.

366
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And Nick Cage does an awkward hip thrust dance before he started drinking.

367
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I could not do that.

368
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Why would you want to do that?

369
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It gives me pleasure.

370
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Yeah. So he's just air humping.

371
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Yeah. But he does it wildly.

372
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Actually, both times, Nick Cage does any kind of dancing.

373
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And this is just terrific.

374
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Later, when he's in the bowling alley and he's mopping,

375
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just like singing a song and then he just busts out this just wild

376
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gyration of like a full body seizure.

377
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It's just so good.

378
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And then the bowling alley owner yells at him.

379
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It's like, yeah, it was like, what do I pay you for?

380
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,280
Nick Cage, like I'm your best employee in bowling alley owners.

381
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Like, no, you're not.

382
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His only response is then I don't fucking know.

383
00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:33,420
No, it's good.

384
00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:36,280
I really I like Nicolas Cage in this whole movie.

385
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I do too. He's charming.

386
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,920
I don't think there's a single scene where he's not drinking.

387
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560
No, he almost always has like a pint of whiskey on him.

388
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,260
Yep. He's a fuck up.

389
00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:49,020
Like, yeah, he is. He's just drunk all the time.

390
00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:52,200
And we know within the film because he has a shiner

391
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when he's going to pick up his date early in the film.

392
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,500
And he just offhand mentions that, you know, it's his old man.

393
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And his mom's out of the picture. She died.

394
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,180
Yeah. And that's the other thing is after they have their blow up

395
00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:10,940
and Henry tells Nick Cage to fuck off, Henry's dad is a gravedigger,

396
00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:13,680
groundskeeper at the cemetery.

397
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,060
And it turns out that after Nicky's mom died,

398
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they kind of took him in like the dad was a fuck up and an asshole.

399
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,400
So they fed Nicky a lot in childhood.

400
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,360
You know that Nicky is at his heart a good kid.

401
00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:31,560
And a lot of that has to do with his friendship with Henry

402
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,040
and their family's like influence on him,

403
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,540
which I thought was a nice little touch. Yeah.

404
00:19:37,540 --> 00:19:39,440
I do care to us. Yeah, that's nice.

405
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,640
I do want to briefly touch on the end, which we do need to quickly discuss

406
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,120
when Nicky tells Henry about needing the abortion.

407
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:50,780
It's after they do a thing they used to do as kids, which is race a train

408
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and then grab onto one of the box cars and ride it for a while,

409
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then jump off on a hill.

410
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,920
Apparently, this is a very dangerous thing, especially when you're drunk.

411
00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,860
Yeah. I mean, that makes sense.

412
00:19:59,860 --> 00:20:02,500
Yeah. I mean, trains are big, heavy things.

413
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,000
They flatten shit. Yeah.

414
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,900
So especially people. That's a thing that, you know, that's a thing,

415
00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:09,400
you know, from their childhood that they remember fondly.

416
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,740
So caddy and Henry break up, they get together back at the end

417
00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:14,040
right before he ships out.

418
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,540
He gives her the kiss.

419
00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,780
He says bye to mom and dad

420
00:20:17,780 --> 00:20:21,540
all while the train conductors like, you know, all aboard.

421
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And the train starts leaving.

422
00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,260
And we have this really nice heartfelt ending.

423
00:20:25,260 --> 00:20:27,860
And his parents are just like, you're missing your train.

424
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You're missing your train.

425
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,860
And they just look at each other and like, ready, go.

426
00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:33,460
And they like have this fun little jaunt along the train.

427
00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:34,960
And grab on at the end.

428
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,660
Yeah, that really undercut the heartfelt ending.

429
00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:43,900
It showed reconciliation between the two of them after their fight.

430
00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:46,700
I just thought it was a weird like add on.

431
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:50,040
Well, it felt actually a little bit similar to the ending of Birdie,

432
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where it kind of ends on just a little bit of a bit on the joke.

433
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,540
Right. I forgot about that.

434
00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,020
Yeah, a little bit.

435
00:20:56,020 --> 00:20:58,020
Totally like that. What?

436
00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:01,860
To me, it was like their characters, their stories had just come full circle

437
00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:03,520
and they were back to it.

438
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,700
I just wanted to touch on Elizabeth McGovern's performance.

439
00:21:06,820 --> 00:21:08,200
I thought that was really good.

440
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,160
She was great.

441
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,660
Great, really clean performance.

442
00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:12,660
Yeah. And like I had an issue with that.

443
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:13,740
I loved her introduction.

444
00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:15,600
She's just dancing in a field by herself.

445
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,040
And all I thought to myself was that girl dances to her own beat.

446
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,040
You can't hear it, but she does.

447
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,180
I mean, there were there were little things

448
00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:25,580
she was doing with her face and her eyes that I thought were just like

449
00:21:25,580 --> 00:21:27,780
really advanced acting.

450
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:30,120
Yeah, it was a really nuanced performance. Yeah.

451
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:33,960
And I mean, I don't really know a deep dive into the rest of her career.

452
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,160
I know she's big on.

453
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,560
Downton Abbey and like a few other things.

454
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,400
Not a whole lot that I've really seen.

455
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,340
Yeah, it's just interesting.

456
00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:43,680
Some of these these sort of like young, ingenue actresses,

457
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,580
like what became of them, because obviously like Sean Penn, Nick Cage,

458
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,280
everybody else who's in this movie, like it's it's a surprising cast.

459
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,540
Yeah, I don't know.

460
00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:56,520
I know this movie financially didn't do well.

461
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,900
It was maybe like a six and a half million budget with a six million bucks.

462
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,900
Well, five of that went to Nick Cage, of course.

463
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,960
Obviously, there's a few interesting just filmmaking things.

464
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,200
I found the shot with the train when they're on the tracks

465
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,500
and the trains coming at them.

466
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,940
That's a mirror and they're just reflecting a train on another set of tracks.

467
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,340
Oh, so that way, you know, their leads weren't in any actual mortal danger.

468
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,720
That's fair. That's good.

469
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,880
So that's pretty cool, like old style filmmaking.

470
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,020
What did you think overall of his performance, though?

471
00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:32,660
I know, like a little overacty.

472
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,700
I wasn't blown away by it, but he said he's just such a supporting character, too.

473
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:41,000
It was hard to really get anything out of him.

474
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,540
He was there to just drive parts of the story.

475
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,600
And I mean, the scene where Sean Penn like pretty much tells him off, you know,

476
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,080
you could you can see the hurt in him.

477
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,040
Yeah, it's also hard to like really gauge it for me because he is just playing

478
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040
me like half in the bag most of the time.

479
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,220
Yeah. So maybe good acting.

480
00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:04,480
Maybe. I don't know if I really had a big strong opinion on that.

481
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,560
No, I didn't.

482
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600
Like, it wasn't hasn't been his best performance that we've seen so far.

483
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:10,960
Probably not. Not his worst.

484
00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:15,040
Yeah, I think what struck me is that while it was overacty,

485
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,260
there were those moments like the weird response to the tattoo

486
00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:20,680
that just were like, oh, there he is.

487
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,840
Yeah, he pops out every once in a while.

488
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,880
It's not flat. It's not a flat performance.

489
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,420
It's not left behind.

490
00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:27,620
I think he did fine.

491
00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:30,620
I don't think it was a bad performance on his.

492
00:23:30,980 --> 00:23:33,420
No, it was early in his career.

493
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,220
It's no worse than his performance in Birdie, which was also

494
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,700
fairly flat, just at different decibel levels.

495
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:44,100
True. And I really liked Birdie. Yeah.

496
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:49,160
OK. Well, how about a little bit of 1994?

497
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,120
Romantic comedy.

498
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:55,200
This is where I really shine, because these are these are the movies I love.

499
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,400
This is your bread and butter.

500
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,400
Yep. So this movie is a true story or based on a true story.

501
00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:08,500
And it's the story of Charlie Lang and his wife, Muriel Lang.

502
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,180
He's a New York cop played by Nick Cage.

503
00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:13,640
She's a hairdresser.

504
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,440
They live in Queens played by Rosie Perez played by Rosie Perez.

505
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,380
They live in Queens, have a shitty one bedroom apartment.

506
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,100
She hates being in Queens.

507
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,640
He loves being in Queens.

508
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,920
He buys a lottery ticket at Herba Hest, ends up going to a diner,

509
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:35,660
has enough for the bill, but not a tip, offers the waitress played by

510
00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:39,820
Bridget Fonda, either half of the winnings

511
00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:44,460
or split the winnings of the lotto ticket or double the tip on the next day.

512
00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:46,060
She doesn't think he's going to show up.

513
00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:48,140
So she's like, whatever, cool.

514
00:24:48,140 --> 00:24:52,500
Overnight, Nicolas Cage and his wife, they win the lottery

515
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:55,180
along with a shit ton of other people.

516
00:24:55,180 --> 00:24:58,280
So their 64 million goes down to four.

517
00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:03,020
He goes back, offers her her cut of it and she takes it.

518
00:25:03,020 --> 00:25:06,280
Rosie Perez, very upset about the situation.

519
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,960
But Nicolas Cage kind of soothes her into it, being like, Oh, you know, tell everybody.

520
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,860
Everybody will think you're Muriel Lang, the hairdresser with the heart of gold.

521
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:18,400
And so she goes along with it.

522
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,740
They kind of get sucked into some high society things as Muriel

523
00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:26,040
is really trying to push herself out of it.

524
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:32,440
And it's like, this is 1994 and you only have two million dollars.

525
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,480
You're going to blow it all real fast in New York City.

526
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,780
But they get through that.

527
00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:43,720
Nicolas Cage and Bridget Fonda, they use their money to like help people,

528
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,220
like just enriching other people's lives.

529
00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:51,200
Rosie Perez really hates it, decides that she wants a divorce.

530
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,940
They go through with said divorce and Muriel decides she wants all the money.

531
00:25:56,940 --> 00:25:58,140
Lawsuit ensues.

532
00:25:58,140 --> 00:25:59,900
Finalization of the film.

533
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:05,940
She gets all the money and Nicolas Cage and Bridget Fonda

534
00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,880
go off and start their own life.

535
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,680
People from around New York send in monetary contributions to them.

536
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,160
They get away with six hundred thousand.

537
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Plenty.

538
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,460
And that's the movie.

539
00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:20,820
It's a very sweet film.

540
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:24,960
I really I think the most surprising thing for me in this film is seeing

541
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Nicolas Cage's romantic lead and having a romantic plot that I wasn't immediately like,

542
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,540
Oh, this is off putting because so far every time we've seen him interact with a lady in

543
00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:41,820
these films, it's been groovy or just ghostwriter.

544
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:44,880
Yeah, it all comes across so sweet.

545
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,720
This movie is just sweet.

546
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,660
It's very sweet.

547
00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:53,500
It's not necessarily something I look for and probably wouldn't have watched this if I

548
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:58,560
wasn't doing a podcast about Nicolas Cage, but it was an enjoyable watch.

549
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,500
I mean, I watched it all.

550
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,200
Again, a lot of casting surprises.

551
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,300
Touch of the tooch.

552
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:10,080
Yeah, we got the tooch playing of Vannes, Bridget Fonda's husband, who she has been

553
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,480
trying to divorce, but didn't have money for strange husband Eddie.

554
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,980
OK, I got to I got to talk about that one for a second, because seeing shirtless tooch

555
00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:24,580
balding, shirtless, ripped Stanley toochy being like a nagging asshole, I was like,

556
00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:26,960
God, that's kind of hot.

557
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,360
When he stole the type, when he stole her macadamia nuts as she was leaving,

558
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,400
that was so good, and he just sits there eating them so proud of himself.

559
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,640
Her one thing as soon as she has two million dollars, the one thing she treats herself

560
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,200
to is a bottle of macadamia nuts.

561
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,500
Yeah, which is nice.

562
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:46,780
I mean, shows they're both, you know, more grounded people.

563
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,640
But we had the tooch.

564
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,280
I personally loved seeing Wendell Pierce in there every time I see him,

565
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,980
and especially in like a cop's uniform.

566
00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:59,680
I just wanted to say, shit,

567
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,520
because I love the wire.

568
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920
But we've also got Isaac Hayes playing the narrator Angel.

569
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,020
That is such a weird part of this film.

570
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:13,560
Yeah, it's it's kind of like that thread that ties it all together

571
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,700
and you don't even notice it until the end.

572
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:20,760
Well, like so it starts off with Isaac Hayes narrating kind of what we're about to see

573
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,240
about these two people.

574
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,300
And he just says, you know, and he's just he's talking to the camera.

575
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:26,500
It's breaking the third wall.

576
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:30,240
And he just ends his little starting narration with My name's Angel.

577
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,380
So like, OK, this is going to be some touched by an angel bullshit.

578
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,680
That's what I expected as well.

579
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,320
And he's like in the background.

580
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,580
He didn't touch anybody, though.

581
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:42,720
No, but he's in the background of almost every scene, every important scene.

582
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,520
And the whole movie is being played out in the media, like the New York Post.

583
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Always their front page story is always about the cop and the waitress.

584
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,660
Right. And at the end of the film, when after the court proceedings,

585
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:58,840
after they lose everything, he runs to a restaurant, finds her there.

586
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Or Nick Cage runs the restaurant, finds her there, and they decide that they're just going

587
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,080
to be happy together.

588
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,080
They don't need the money.

589
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,280
Isaac Hayes, who's been very clean cut and very well dressed the whole film, shows up

590
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,260
as a homeless man, like knocking at the window when they're closed, looking for food and

591
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:20,960
they bring him in, they feed him as they're kind of having their own private moment.

592
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,260
He's got a wrist mounted camera. Yeah, that's some Dick Tracy shit.

593
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:28,060
And it's just fucking weird. Snapping photos of them.

594
00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:33,600
And he's been writing these newspaper headlines the entire film.

595
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Yeah, they just got to give it up like, oh, he's a reporter for the Post.

596
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,180
And well, and then he runs out of the restaurant, he runs into a car and takes off the Jerry

597
00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:43,980
Curl wig he's wearing.

598
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:49,380
Yeah. It just that was such like he could have just been an angel.

599
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:54,060
He's Angel Dupree is his name, and it wouldn't have changed the movie at all.

600
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:58,460
And it would have actually been better without that weird third act twist.

601
00:29:58,460 --> 00:30:01,260
Yeah, they kind of I don't know.

602
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:03,760
It's what inspires New York to give them the money.

603
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Yeah. Which.

604
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,740
OK, sweet. But just that was needlessly complicated and convoluted.

605
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:15,140
It was a really weak plot device until the very end when they needed it to pay off.

606
00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:16,340
And that's what it was.

607
00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:17,740
I did. It's hokey.

608
00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:21,780
But I loved it. Yeah. Can we talk about how great a cop he is?

609
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:28,060
Like the first three minutes of this film are just talking about how Charlie is just

610
00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,420
a good cop. He's a good cop.

611
00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:31,820
He's a good cop. And he's a good guy.

612
00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:33,100
What? And he's a good guy.

613
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:37,900
One of the first things he like, we see a scene of a blind man crossing the street

614
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,560
against the light in New York and cars are like screeching to halt.

615
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,900
And Charlie just runs in the street, hoists the blind guy over his shoulder and like

616
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,100
runs him to the other sidewalk. Yeah.

617
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,940
We see him delivering a baby on a city bus.

618
00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:55,080
No, he ends every night between stickball with the boy with the neighborhood.

619
00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:01,420
Hey, Zou with Hazel on this on the street while his, you know, Rosie Perez being the

620
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:03,420
worst 90s wife ever.

621
00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:05,420
She was so perfectly annoying.

622
00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:09,760
So one of her first lines in this film is her complaining to a customer while she's

623
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,860
doing her hair about how her husband has no drive.

624
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:16,300
He should at least be a detective, but no, he's got to wear that stupid uniform.

625
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:22,300
And she utters the words, if he was if he was on the take, he'd at least have initiative.

626
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:25,100
Yeah. And when they have their first argument in

627
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,940
the film, she's saying how she hates living in Queen in a one bedroom in Queens.

628
00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:31,980
And he's like, it's fine. They're just bickering.

629
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:37,020
And as he's leaving the bathroom after brushing his teeth, she just like yells out from the

630
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:39,420
shower, I'm a person who needs money.

631
00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:44,620
Yeah, you can really tell what she's all about. The worst 90s wife ever.

632
00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:48,220
And when they do make it, when they do win the money, they go on a millionaire's cruise.

633
00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:52,220
He runs off the boat. Well, Bridget Fonda showed up.

634
00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:55,260
Yeah, he was having trouble with her cab to like help her out.

635
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:56,940
And then the boat takes off without them.

636
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:59,900
And they have a really nice date together.

637
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:04,460
And when the boat finally comes back in, he's working out and excusing his head for where

638
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:05,580
he was the whole night.

639
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:07,580
And she didn't even realize he was back.

640
00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:10,700
Yeah, she was indifferent towards his presence.

641
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:15,500
Well, she was baiting the hook for the next rich guy she was going to marry.

642
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:19,740
I do appreciate the come up and she gets throughout the entire film because once they strike it

643
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:24,620
big, they go on a shopping spree and they do the very 90s movie thing of the woman coming

644
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:28,860
out in nicer clothes and the guy having more boxes throughout.

645
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,740
Yeah. And when she comes out in her new fur coat

646
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:36,700
and says she's finally happy, there's a premonition that she's going to get married.

647
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,100
There's a protest for his murder protests going on.

648
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,420
And she immediately just gets paint thrown on her.

649
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:46,300
I do like that every time she buys something, she's got that line of like, oh, now I can

650
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:47,900
finally be happy.

651
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,140
Oh, now I'm comfortable.

652
00:32:50,140 --> 00:32:52,380
Now I now I have everything.

653
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:57,420
And it's always like followed by one more shopping scene going from like Barney's and

654
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:58,860
Tiffany's and all those other.

655
00:32:58,860 --> 00:32:59,820
I don't know.

656
00:32:59,820 --> 00:33:02,380
So what's the end for her?

657
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:11,340
Her story is concluded like after the divorce, she gets with the rich guy from the cruise

658
00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:16,700
and the rich guy turns out to not be rich and just grifted her, took all of her money

659
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:17,660
and ran away.

660
00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:18,540
Clears their bank accounts.

661
00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:19,180
Random.

662
00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:21,660
So then she gets a place in Brooklyn.

663
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:24,700
She's living with her mom in Brooklyn and is a hairdresser.

664
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,700
Not a hairdresser, a nail style.

665
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:29,100
She only does nails now.

666
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:30,860
She's a piece of shit.

667
00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:32,780
Yeah, she's real annoying.

668
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:36,460
She is playing a very specific type of abrasive.

669
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:36,780
Yes.

670
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,140
As the film goes on, though, we do see.

671
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:45,340
So at one point, Charlie semi retires from the force after he is shot in the line of

672
00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:45,740
duty.

673
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:50,700
Stopping robbery at their favorite bodega.

674
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:57,980
Yeah, Korean bodega, which they know is being robbed because when he goes in there, he asks

675
00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:03,980
how Son is the owner of the shop and asks how his wife's doing, or where his wife is.

676
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:08,140
And Son says, oh, she's home with the flu and doesn't charge them for the coffee.

677
00:34:08,140 --> 00:34:13,260
So when Nick Cage leaves the bodega, he just goes to his partner and is like, they're being

678
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:13,500
robbed.

679
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:13,900
Like what?

680
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:20,220
And like Son said, his wife has the flu and his partner goes, man, that bitch would work

681
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:21,100
if she's dying.

682
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:23,500
And then she.

683
00:34:24,220 --> 00:34:26,860
Yeah, she didn't charge him.

684
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:29,740
So yeah, didn't charge me for the coffee.

685
00:34:29,740 --> 00:34:31,980
It's like, oh, well, he is getting robbed then.

686
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:37,980
So Nick Cage goes in through the basement, comes up, takes out one of the criminals with

687
00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:44,140
a can of beans from about five yards and then just he gets shot.

688
00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:48,780
It's not fucked up and tackles another guy through the glass door.

689
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:51,580
I was saving that all day.

690
00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:52,140
That was good.

691
00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:59,900
Yeah, and I like that he tackles him through the door and he like gets up and his partner's

692
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:01,340
like, oh, blah, blah, blah.

693
00:35:01,340 --> 00:35:06,380
And then Nicholas Cage notices that he gets shot in the arm and he just like faints.

694
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:10,700
Yeah, he just straight down on the guy he tackled again.

695
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:16,060
And the next scene is him getting like, you know, a medal for valor and he donates ten

696
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:19,820
thousand dollars of their winnings to the Policeman's Widows Fund.

697
00:35:19,820 --> 00:35:23,020
And you can just see Rosie Perez just fuming.

698
00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:25,980
Yeah, that ten thousand dollars of their two million is gone.

699
00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:27,980
Yeah, she is not a good person.

700
00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:29,180
No, no.

701
00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,460
And that I mean, that's something we could talk about, like the things that Nicholas

702
00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:38,300
Cage or Charlie Lang spent this money on is like donations to the Widows Fund.

703
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:46,620
Charlie and Yvonne went down and like bought like train fare.

704
00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:48,380
Just had several tokens for everyone.

705
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:51,580
And just started giving them out and like treating everybody.

706
00:35:51,580 --> 00:35:56,300
Which is what starts the divorce proceedings because when well, no, it's the next one.

707
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:58,780
When they go to the baseball park.

708
00:35:58,780 --> 00:36:01,740
Yeah, they take all the kids from the neighborhood to bring all the kids there.

709
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:05,100
Baseball at a Yankee Stadium, whatever it is.

710
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,980
But I fucking love that one because I mean, that was just cool and it was really cool

711
00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:10,540
what they did.

712
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:13,980
So like the kids were able to all play down on the diamond.

713
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:18,780
Nick Cage and his partner were like doing the pitching and everything.

714
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:25,260
And then they also set up this like photo op for the kids so they could jump on a trampling

715
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:31,020
and get a picture of them like, quote unquote, catching a ball as it was going over the wall.

716
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:33,420
So it was really nice.

717
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:34,220
It was fun.

718
00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:35,020
Yeah, I liked it.

719
00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:35,740
Very sweet.

720
00:36:35,740 --> 00:36:40,220
You can see the start of their relationship because at this point, because Charlie and

721
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:42,540
Muriel, not Muriel, Charlie and.

722
00:36:42,540 --> 00:36:44,380
Yvonne.

723
00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:44,880
Yvonne.

724
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:46,460
No funny business.

725
00:36:46,460 --> 00:36:50,780
They're just they clearly are attracted to each other, but neither one of them is actively

726
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:52,620
pursuing it while he is married.

727
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:55,260
It's not till he gets kicked out of the house that they.

728
00:36:56,460 --> 00:36:56,960
Stoop.

729
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:03,420
So but you see the early parts of those relationship and this is what really sold me on Nick Cage

730
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:08,620
being a leading man because I'm like, I remember being in love at one point.

731
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:08,860
Yeah.

732
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:12,620
Now I'm just cold and dead inside.

733
00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:15,420
And that's a great segue for one scene I do want to talk about.

734
00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:16,380
Oh, let me hear it.

735
00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:23,260
When Charlie comes home after being shot, like the next scene is Charlie coming home

736
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:29,100
and his house is full of construction workers and his apartment is completely torn apart.

737
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:33,340
And I'm just and I'm just sitting there thinking about the time I walked into my home

738
00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:35,180
and I no longer had a floor.

739
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:39,740
Yeah, I wasn't told about when I left the house that morning.

740
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,260
That's a hard one to come home to.

741
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,660
Yeah, no, it's never fun to come home to.

742
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:44,540
No.

743
00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:47,900
So and then when he's like, where's my chair?

744
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:51,020
And Rosie Perez is like, I donated to Goodwill.

745
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,860
It's like, you could have told me.

746
00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:57,420
And her response is like, you know, I thought we, you know, just gave stuff away without

747
00:37:57,420 --> 00:37:58,140
telling each other.

748
00:37:58,780 --> 00:37:59,180
Yeah.

749
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:01,980
It's like the one time she gets a proper dig in.

750
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:02,860
It was a good day.

751
00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:08,540
I hated seeing her in that hard hat, though, just walking around with that clipboard.

752
00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:12,620
I wanted to like push her down in the dirt, not not hit her or anything.

753
00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:14,700
She wasn't trying to kill him.

754
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:19,260
Although there are definitely times like, oh, when he tells her about the two million

755
00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:25,740
dollars, like giving that away, just like, oh, these two are going to fucking beat each

756
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,980
other up like that is murder.

757
00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:29,740
Like people are murdered for less.

758
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:35,580
I don't think Charlie Lang would have ever lifted a hand against anybody that wasn't

759
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:36,700
clearly breaking the law.

760
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:38,700
He did grab her at one point.

761
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:38,940
Sure.

762
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:44,140
That was her lawyer's reasoning for him being an abusive husband.

763
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:50,300
The whole the whole civil case against him and Yvonne is just that's probably the one

764
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:50,780
part of the movie.

765
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:55,660
I'm like, this is the least interesting aspect of this and completely bullshit.

766
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:57,740
Charlie doesn't want any of the money.

767
00:38:57,740 --> 00:39:00,220
He's like, you can keep the lotto winnings.

768
00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:01,260
You know, I don't want anything.

769
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:04,700
I don't want need money to be happy, but she wants the money he gave away.

770
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,820
And the whole court case is it was her lotto ticket.

771
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:15,020
Even though he bought it, the city of New York, you know, decided against them.

772
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:15,260
Yeah.

773
00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:16,860
They had to give back all the money.

774
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:18,300
Which is pretty wild.

775
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:19,340
That jury sucked.

776
00:39:19,340 --> 00:39:20,460
Yeah, seriously.

777
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:25,180
Who would have sided with her, honestly, with Rosie Perez?

778
00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:25,740
Yeah.

779
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,740
Well, she has such a charming voice.

780
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:28,060
Yeah.

781
00:39:28,060 --> 00:39:30,380
Well, you notice she was never on the stand.

782
00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:31,260
Oh, wait, she was.

783
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:33,580
Yeah, because she talked about her dead dad's.

784
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:37,100
The dream she had, which I'm oh, God, Charlie had the worst lawyer.

785
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,740
I'm like, fucking no, there's no way to prove that.

786
00:39:39,740 --> 00:39:41,180
That is completely inadmissible.

787
00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:41,740
Like, yeah.

788
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:42,540
Testimony.

789
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:42,860
I don't know.

790
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:45,740
There were a lot of details in this movie that I really enjoyed.

791
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:46,940
Weird little things.

792
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:49,740
And none of them had any impact on it.

793
00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:55,580
Like, I really loved Angel's tie, his lobster tie that he was wearing at the top of the

794
00:39:55,580 --> 00:39:55,980
movie.

795
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:58,780
I loved when they were robbing.

796
00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:00,380
Those guys were robbing the bodega.

797
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:06,060
And like, as they were about to run out the door, one guy's like, give me a carton of

798
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:07,580
Virginia Slims.

799
00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:12,380
You're going to knock over a bodega and take the silliest looking, like, you know,

800
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:14,380
Well, and like, lady brand cigarettes.

801
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:18,700
When they're robbing, when they're robbing that, well, they're men of weak constitution.

802
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,860
When they're robbing the bodega and Charlie's coming in from the basement, he knocked,

803
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:25,100
he like walks into some bottles.

804
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,820
So the crime, the thieves upstairs like, what was that?

805
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:28,460
What's back there?

806
00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:29,260
It's like nothing.

807
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:30,300
There's no entrance back there.

808
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:31,980
Just, you know, a basement.

809
00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:33,100
It's like, what was that noise?

810
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,900
Like rats, really big rats.

811
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:40,300
And then Charlie's coming up the stairs and there's a conveyor belt going up the stairs.

812
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:44,060
There's just a giant fuck all rat just like chill in there, just waving at him.

813
00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:44,620
Yeah.

814
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:45,660
And a New York rat.

815
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:46,160
Yeah.

816
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:48,700
So we briefly, you touched on this.

817
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,980
So this is based loosely on a true story.

818
00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:56,620
Cop named Robert Cunningham was a regular diner for years.

819
00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,540
Phyllis Penzo was a waitress there for years.

820
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:04,860
And one day while he was having his lunch, he asked Phyllis for some lotto numbers.

821
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:05,900
She gave him three.

822
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:11,420
He came up with three more and he jokingly said, you know, if this wins, you know,

823
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:13,020
he'll tip her half the next day.

824
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,580
And the next day they won that night.

825
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:19,580
And the next day Robert and his wife came in and gave her half the money.

826
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:22,860
It's so loosely inspired by real events.

827
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:25,260
But I'm like, that's pretty cool.

828
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,660
From a Hollywood standpoint, this is a better movie than the real events.

829
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:30,140
Yeah.

830
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:32,860
And the fact that, you know, that could happen in the world is...

831
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:34,860
It could happen to you.

832
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:35,660
Hey.

833
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:36,780
Oh, nice.

834
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:38,060
I'm going to stop rambling.

835
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,500
That's a perfect spot to end that.

836
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:40,620
Do you have a quote for this film?

837
00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:44,620
Yeah, I've got again, I've got a couple lines that I enjoyed.

838
00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:46,140
Now, can I do mine since you have a couple?

839
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:46,860
Yes, you can.

840
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:51,020
I mean, this goes back to the bodega and when Charlie goes in there to order coffee,

841
00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:54,860
the first thing he says to the owner's son is,

842
00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:57,020
son, how are things in the mysterious East?

843
00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:01,660
Like, oh, bad.

844
00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:07,740
I'm not sure which one of these I like better, but in the beginning,

845
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:12,060
Charlie playing stickball with the kids and everything.

846
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:15,820
And Uriel shouts down to him like, I just ordered Chinese food.

847
00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:19,180
Come inside. And he's like, I'll be in in a minute.

848
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:23,980
And then he gets some shit from Heizu, the kid who's just like, what are you whipped?

849
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:29,180
And Nicholas Cage just comes back with, no, I'm not whipped.

850
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,260
I've got adult responsibilities.

851
00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:32,300
I do love Heizu.

852
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:33,500
It was a nice interaction.

853
00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:35,660
Again, it's always Heizu.

854
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:40,780
I think Heizu and Charlie had the best kind of interactions for me.

855
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:44,300
Heizu asked him if he killed anybody today.

856
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:48,860
And Charlie just comes back with didn't even wound anybody.

857
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:50,220
I've been really slow.

858
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:55,980
And now we have two Nick Cage kids who don't suck.

859
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:56,700
That's true.

860
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:57,740
We got Heizu.

861
00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:00,780
My rule is quickly a Heizu and handpan.

862
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:01,340
Yeah.

863
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:02,460
Balancing the scales.

864
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:03,180
I do.

865
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:09,340
I really did enjoy their his relationship with just the neighborhood, the kids.

866
00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:09,740
Yeah.

867
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:12,140
Just a genuinely sweet guy.

868
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:17,260
It really came across like this guy loves the neighborhood.

869
00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:18,780
He loves living in Queens.

870
00:43:19,340 --> 00:43:24,700
I mean, there's a lot of like, I guess, Burrow pride in people out in New York.

871
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:25,340
I don't know.

872
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:26,780
Unless you're Rosie Perez.

873
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:28,380
Well, she sucked.

874
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:32,060
Yeah, she sucked.

875
00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:35,100
But yeah, I mean, what did you think of him overall in the role?

876
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:39,340
Leading man, romance, hokey, nice guy cop.

877
00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:41,660
He was such a good just every man in this film.

878
00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:46,780
Like he's a cop and he's clearly in good shape, but they never really.

879
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:49,180
We don't get any shirtless cage in this.

880
00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:50,220
No, just too cheesy.

881
00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:53,420
They also don't like, you know, they don't give him hair plugs.

882
00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:58,140
They're not trying to like hide the fact that he's got kind of a receding hairline.

883
00:43:58,140 --> 00:43:59,900
Why are you looking at the top of my head?

884
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:01,980
I'm looking at your mouth for some reason.

885
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:03,740
That's why I'm doing it.

886
00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:05,660
That's for you, Mayor.

887
00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:08,940
Yeah, no, he's good.

888
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:10,060
He did a great job.

889
00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:12,620
I think he gave me a cop that I didn't hate.

890
00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:15,180
I didn't want to ask you about that.

891
00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:17,500
No, no, I will not say fuck this cop.

892
00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:19,980
This cop was all right.

893
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,940
Fuck all cops, but Nick Cage in this one movie.

894
00:44:23,740 --> 00:44:28,700
The director on this hasn't directed much, but is a character actor.

895
00:44:29,740 --> 00:44:30,780
A lot of TV stuff.

896
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,460
The one that stuck out to me was he was in an episode of Titus.

897
00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:35,580
Oh, yeah, I saw that.

898
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:36,060
Yeah.

899
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:40,860
And he ends up matching up with Cage again later with Honeymoon in Vegas.

900
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:42,300
Yep, interesting.

901
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:45,100
I think also interesting is kind of the director of photography,

902
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:51,340
Caleb Deschanel, father of Zoe Deschanel and Emily Deschanel of Bones and New Girl.

903
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:53,900
I was about to ask you that when I remembered you and I had this conversation.

904
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:59,340
Yeah, so he worked together with Cage on this and then later in National Treasure.

905
00:45:00,220 --> 00:45:02,940
So we'll be coming back to the old Caleb Deschanel.

906
00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:07,340
I think the only other thing I wanted to say is that I had such a huge crush on Bridget Fonda

907
00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:08,300
when I was growing up.

908
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:09,340
She's she's real cute.

909
00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:14,300
Well, just I was really torn with these movies as to which one I thought had the more

910
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,020
endearing female lead.

911
00:45:17,020 --> 00:45:17,580
Right.

912
00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:19,340
Like they both crushed it.

913
00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:21,020
Well, they were both really good.

914
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:25,660
I mean, I loved both of these characters, these characters and the way they were portrayed by

915
00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:31,260
these actresses, but just both of these got me in what remains of my feels with

916
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:35,420
Sean Penn's first his first love, like that early young love.

917
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:40,780
The first time you see some boobs, the first time you jump naked in a lake and then have sex by it.

918
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:41,340
You've all done that.

919
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:46,380
You mean the time we got to see Sean Penn's nutsack in a PG movie?

920
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:46,940
Yeah.

921
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:47,420
Yeah.

922
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:48,860
I mean, you see two nipples.

923
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:50,460
It's just a little nutsack.

924
00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:50,860
Yeah.

925
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:52,460
But just a little nutsack.

926
00:45:52,460 --> 00:45:52,940
It's still good.

927
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:53,820
It's still good.

928
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:55,500
No, it was a fine nutsack.

929
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:55,900
It's not.

930
00:45:55,900 --> 00:46:01,180
But no, both these movies brought me back to different parts of my growth as a human

931
00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:05,340
being and just being reminded of like the sweet awkwardness of young love and how you

932
00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:13,500
do so much for your first quote unquote love for no other reason than it's new and exciting.

933
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:17,820
And you've never felt these feelings before as in racing with the moon and kind of in

934
00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:21,580
it could happen to you because we find out that Rosie Perez was

935
00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:23,420
It was his high school girlfriend.

936
00:46:23,420 --> 00:46:27,740
High school girlfriend and the only person he'd ever been with until him and Yvonne

937
00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:29,660
touched butts later.

938
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:33,740
I can say that I've never grown as a human, so I can't identify with your statement.

939
00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:34,540
But then, you know.

940
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:36,460
I came out of the womb just like this.

941
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:37,020
That's terrifying.

942
00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:43,100
I've also been a slightly older person who was fairly settled in my life and

943
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:48,620
met someone new and also had that kind of new and exciting change.

944
00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:55,180
Like I related to Sean Penn and Nick Cage and both these movies in their weird romantic

945
00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:55,820
endeavors.

946
00:46:55,820 --> 00:47:00,940
Also, I do want to just say the one joke that really did get a good laugh out of me in

947
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:08,380
It Could Happen to You when Yvonne's talking about her ex-husband Eddie who was an actor

948
00:47:08,380 --> 00:47:11,500
and was talking about if they ever had a son, they should name the kid Al Pacino.

949
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:13,820
Al Pacino Biasi.

950
00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:14,060
Yeah.

951
00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:15,340
Weird.

952
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:17,900
Tucci was so good in that role.

953
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:23,500
I love finding the parallels, like the little things that both movies have.

954
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:25,340
And it keeps coming up in our things.

955
00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:28,460
But sometimes this one's just even a little detail.

956
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:35,580
Both movies featured the leading man in a roller skating scene and not knowing how to

957
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:36,060
skate.

958
00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:36,380
Yeah.

959
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:44,300
Nicholas Cage ends up skating into the lake at Central Park and Sean Penn just ends up

960
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:48,460
getting like, I don't know, skate thrown.

961
00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:50,460
Cracked the whip.

962
00:47:50,460 --> 00:47:51,660
You look that up?

963
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,420
No, I lived in a small town for a while and all we had was a roller rink.

964
00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:55,900
Nice.

965
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:59,260
So yeah, they cracked that whip and he got launched right out the door.

966
00:47:59,260 --> 00:47:59,580
Yeah.

967
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:00,860
But he handled it very well.

968
00:48:00,860 --> 00:48:01,820
I enjoyed that.

969
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:06,380
Both got their penises touched because of this endearing act later.

970
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:07,100
Oh yeah.

971
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:09,660
Specifically because they're not good at skating.

972
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:10,700
I remember that line.

973
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:14,540
It's like, I'm only doing this because you can't handle roller skates.

974
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:17,740
I'm just going to start trying out things I see in Nick Cage movies on future dates.

975
00:48:17,740 --> 00:48:18,300
Do it.

976
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:19,420
I highly recommend it.

977
00:48:19,420 --> 00:48:20,460
Start with Ghost Rider.

978
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:23,660
Light myself on fire?

979
00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:24,220
Yeah.

980
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:27,980
And then wiggle your bony bones.

981
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:29,980
OK.

982
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:39,180
With that, I mean, I know what I think should go forward.

983
00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:46,540
I'm actually really curious what you guys think should advance because I had a hard time picking on this one, unlike fucking last week.

984
00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:49,820
OK, so I'm going to say I think it should be It Could Happen to You.

985
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:50,620
Yeah.

986
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:52,300
It's a Nick Cage film.

987
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:56,300
Yeah, that's the thing that was really hanging me up on it, too.

988
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,900
It's like I actually prefer Racing with the Moon.

989
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:01,420
I just enjoyed it more.

990
00:49:01,420 --> 00:49:06,220
But it's a Sean Penn movie with a supporting Nicolas Cage.

991
00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:08,140
It Could Happen to You is a good movie.

992
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:08,540
Yeah.

993
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:09,900
I enjoyed watching it.

994
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:13,660
But I mean, we're finding the best Nicolas Cage movie.

995
00:49:13,660 --> 00:49:15,260
And that's a Nicolas Cage movie.

996
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:15,820
Yeah.

997
00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:18,140
Like, Nick Cage is really good in Racing with the Moon.

998
00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:20,620
I highly recommend anybody watching Racing with the Moon.

999
00:49:20,620 --> 00:49:21,020
Totally.

1000
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:26,940
Like I said, this is, I think, the first time we have a head to head of two really enjoyable films.

1001
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:27,580
Yeah.

1002
00:49:27,580 --> 00:49:29,740
And we didn't really talk about it.

1003
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:38,460
But the heaviness of the subject of Racing with the Moon is so, I don't know, it felt like I was not prepared for it to be a movie.

1004
00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:43,900
That the central conflict revolved around getting an abortion.

1005
00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:48,460
We're already talking about two people are getting ready to go to war and the movie gets heavy.

1006
00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:49,100
Yeah.

1007
00:49:49,100 --> 00:50:00,300
And, you know, but also their personal lives and Nicolas Cage's specific cavalier attitude of going off to war has consequences and it's handled very well.

1008
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:00,860
Yeah.

1009
00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:05,820
I think no matter what, I mean, we're going to push It Could Happen to You forward.

1010
00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:08,220
But people should watch Racing with the Moon.

1011
00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:08,860
Agreed.

1012
00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:09,580
It's a good movie.

1013
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:15,020
And I think I could watch It Could Happen to You more often just because it is popcorn fluff a lot of the time.

1014
00:50:15,020 --> 00:50:16,220
Yeah, it's super light.

1015
00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:17,260
It's easy to watch.

1016
00:50:17,260 --> 00:50:18,460
And it's so charming.

1017
00:50:18,460 --> 00:50:19,180
It is.

1018
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:19,740
All right.

1019
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:27,980
So speaking of two very good banger movies to watch next time, we have World Trade Center and The Frozen Ground.

1020
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:30,460
That'll be our funniest comedy podcast yet.

1021
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,100
Definitely.

1022
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:31,500
I can't wait.

1023
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:34,220
I'm going to crush so many beers before this.

1024
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:34,940
Oh, boy.

1025
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,220
It's going to be a good one.

1026
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:36,860
Yeah.

1027
00:50:36,860 --> 00:50:38,860
So you heard it here, folks.

1028
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:40,060
This is Cage Match.

1029
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:43,900
Rate us on whatever you listen to podcasts on and subscribe.

1030
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:44,300
Yeah.

1031
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:48,060
Don't forget to drop some comments down there in the down below.

1032
00:50:48,060 --> 00:50:50,060
We need more in the down below.

1033
00:50:54,060 --> 00:50:56,060
Yeah, no, I could hear it.

1034
00:50:56,060 --> 00:50:58,060
Don't gargle.

1035
00:50:58,060 --> 00:51:02,060
How did it feel?

1036
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:04,060
Like that.

1037
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:08,060
I could feel like I need this in my life.

1038
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:10,060
Are we all going to do it?

1039
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:12,060
No, don't do it.

1040
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:14,060
I don't recommend it.

1041
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:20,060
Oh, yeah, you have a weak throat.

1042
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,060
No, I got in my nose when you made me laugh.

1043
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:26,060
Well, that's a trick.

1044
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:34,060
Never make me laugh.