1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Oh god. Oh my god. 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Can I get a mongoose noise anytime I swear? 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,300 Okay, one, what does a mongoose sound like? 4 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:18,000 I don't know. 5 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:21,300 I didn't know mongoose were so indecisive. 6 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:22,200 It's true. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,700 Yeah. 8 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:25,800 Hello and welcome to Cage Match, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,600 colon a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,700 I am your host, Sean. 11 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,700 I remembered my own name this week 12 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:38,500 with my co-host, Nick, who also remembered his own name this week. 13 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:39,600 It's true. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,100 I came in prepared with it. 15 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:41,900 I wrote it down. 16 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:43,100 On your arm. 17 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:43,600 Yeah. 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,300 And our good friend and producer. 19 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:47,600 Peter. 20 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,500 I almost fucked that up. 21 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:51,300 You're like, who am I? 22 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:53,300 How you doing, Peter? 23 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:54,400 Pretty good. 24 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:01,100 I feel like I hated this week more than anything possible. 25 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:03,900 Why do you think I suggested this idea to us? 26 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:08,400 Oh god, I didn't realize that it was going to be such a bad combo. 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,700 I think actually you're wrong. 28 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:13,900 Good. Prove it to me. 29 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:16,700 I mean, I'm not saying they're good movies, 30 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:19,400 but I think it was actually a fine week. 31 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:21,900 I concur. 32 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:22,900 There you go. 33 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:24,400 This is good content. 34 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,400 This is why I'm the producer, because you're both wrong. 35 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,900 And I'm going to edit it so that I am right. 36 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:31,900 Just sound clips. 37 00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:34,900 I agree with Peter. 38 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:38,900 Dog eat dog bad. 39 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:40,900 Bad dog. 40 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:49,400 So this week we are discussing the finer merits of Ghost Rider and Dog Eat Dog. 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,900 Ghost Rider from 2007, Dog Eat Dog 2016. 42 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:56,400 Peter, why don't you tell us where these were seeded? 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Oh, yeah. 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,400 So that's an important aspect of this entire thing. 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,900 This is a bracket of 64. 46 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:06,900 Everything was based on an aggregate score from IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes, 47 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:09,900 which gave us our general seeding. 48 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:13,900 The first four episodes are all one seeds against 16. 49 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,900 This is a number eight against a number nine. 50 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:24,900 So I think we're going to have to see Ghost Rider being slightly better. 51 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:26,900 Definitely better. 52 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:28,900 Well, OK, so there's the end of the episode. 53 00:02:28,900 --> 00:02:31,900 See you next week, folks. 54 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:36,400 So, OK, let's let's discuss Dog Eat Dog first, shall we? 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,900 Yeah, yeah, I'm going to I'm going to get you into this. 56 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:46,900 So to really kind of get in to tell you how shit the plot 57 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:49,900 is, I'm going to give you the synopsis from Wikipedia 58 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:51,900 and the synopsis from IMDB real quick. 59 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:55,900 Wikipedia tells us three former prisoners, 60 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:59,900 Troy, Mad Dog and Diesel, are hired to kidnap a baby 61 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:01,900 and share a big ransom payment. 62 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:03,900 That's it. 63 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:09,900 If we go to IMDB, we get a little more like production quality 64 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,900 flavor and storyline. 65 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:17,900 The story of the three men who are served from a lifetime 66 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:22,900 of experience that runs the gamut from incarceration to liberation. 67 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:27,900 Dog Eat Dog is the story of three men who are all out of prison 68 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:31,900 and now have the task of adapting themselves to civilian life. 69 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:35,900 The California three strikes law looms over them. 70 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:37,900 But what the hell? They're going to do it. 71 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:40,900 And they're going to do it their way. 72 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:43,900 The three men are caught in a fight for their lives. 73 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,900 They're caught in a fight for their lives, but cannot get away 74 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,900 from his hatred for the system. 75 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:53,900 Diesel is on the mob's payroll and his interest in the in his 76 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,900 suburban home and his nagging wife is waning. 77 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,900 The loose cannon of the trio, Mad Dog, 78 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:02,900 is possessed by true demons within, 79 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:06,900 which lead him from one situation to the next. 80 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:09,900 One more hit, one more jackpot, and they'll all be satisfied. 81 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:14,900 In the aftermath, they find the law surrounding them wherever they go. 82 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:17,900 I wish I'd watched that movie. 83 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:21,900 Yeah, it sounds like, well, like it's got a little more going on in it. 84 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:24,900 So this movie, how much we like this movie or not, 85 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,900 we just don't want to talk about it. 86 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:31,900 More accurately fits the one sentence description you get from Wikipedia. 87 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:37,900 Three dudes out of jail, kind of suck at life and tried to 88 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,900 like get a big score with ransoming a baby. 89 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:43,900 That sounds like a OK movie. 90 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:47,900 Right. I mean, it's it's raising Arizona, but like gritty. 91 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:51,900 Exactly. It's the second time Nick Cage has to abduct a baby. 92 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:56,900 Yeah, I was really confused when I read the synopsis, though, on IMDb, 93 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:58,900 which, again, sounds like a much better film. 94 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:00,900 Yeah, it sounds like it's really got something going. 95 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:04,900 But the sentence that just the run on sentence that ends with or that starts 96 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:07,900 with the California three strike law looms over them. 97 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:10,900 I thought for the first four times I read that I'm like, 98 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:13,900 do they refer to themselves as the California three? Oh, yeah. 99 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:16,900 And it's when you read it out loud and like, oh, no, the three strikes. 100 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:18,900 Well, yeah, the three strikes. They do. 101 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:21,900 But they're not. They're not in California. 102 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:27,900 No, they are in Cleveland, which is another dumb place to have a movie. 103 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,900 No. So this movie like you've got these guys. 104 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:41,900 It starts out in just the most insanely pink room with Willem Dafoe. 105 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:46,900 He's on a chair doing some coke, gets a phone call for no reason. 106 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,900 Telemarketer destroys the phone. Yeah. 107 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:52,900 Why did that have to be involved in the why did any of this movie just to show 108 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,900 he's unhinged and so we can see his gutting nice. 109 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:57,900 I there are two things about this. 110 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:03,900 So I watched this after both of you and I had gotten nothing but all this is bad. 111 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:08,900 And then I saw this first scene and I was like, there are things happening 112 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,900 that I that gave me hope. 113 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,900 The aggressive color palette of the first two scenes. 114 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:18,900 I mean, those colors are so vibrant and aggressive 115 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,900 that they are meant to make you feel as uncomfortable as you do in the scene. 116 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:24,900 I'm like, that's interesting cinematography. 117 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:27,900 Maybe this won't be as awful as it is. 118 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:30,900 And then it just goes away after that. 119 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:36,900 Although in color theory of laying like aggressive pink is not an upsetting color. 120 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:38,900 I was very upset by it. 121 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:43,900 I mean, that's fine. But if you go to like a mental institute or something, 122 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:47,900 there's going to be a lot of pink on the walls because it's more calming. 123 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:50,900 I also do like I don't think we need to read too much into it. 124 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:56,900 I think Schrader was trying to get like really, really just like choicey. 125 00:06:56,900 --> 00:06:58,900 Yeah. Like he's making artistic choices. 126 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:00,900 That's clear through the movie. 127 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:03,900 Yeah. The scene where all of a sudden it's black and white for no reason. 128 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:05,900 That's the strip club. Yeah. Yeah. 129 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:10,900 We go from colored scene like super colorful scene to black and white scene. 130 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:14,900 I also just want to point out for no reason Willem Dafoe's look in this scene. 131 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:20,900 He's got shorts on, sandals with socks and a knife strapped to his ankle. 132 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:22,900 Yeah. But it's just like a working knife. 133 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:25,900 Like because it's just a look with the sandals and socks. 134 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:26,900 Yeah. It's a good look. 135 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:30,900 He goes to the bathroom and now he's doing heroin. 136 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:34,900 And then this lady comes home with her kid. 137 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:38,900 Yeah. She comes home with her kid and she's putting away groceries 138 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:41,900 and he like kind of saunters out and you're like, oh, OK, he lives here. 139 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:43,900 And she's like, I told you, you can't stay here. 140 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:45,900 And it's like, OK, he doesn't live here. 141 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,900 And his car's in the shop. 142 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:50,900 Yeah. His car's in the shop and he won't get it back until tomorrow. 143 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:53,900 So he just needs a place to stay. Also, the kids a piece of shit. 144 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:58,900 Sheila and Mad Dog kind of. Yeah. Mad Dog. 145 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:03,900 So Willem Dafoe playing Mad Dog. Fuck both of you. 146 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:07,900 All right. Willem Dafoe, Mad Dog. 147 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:11,900 He is trying to like sweet talk Sheila now. 148 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,900 With the promise of spare ribs and. Yeah. 149 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:17,900 It's not even spare ribs. He's like, I'll make short ribs. Short ribs. 150 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:22,900 And she's OK. I got to say, she's also like six to eight inches taller than him. 151 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:24,900 And she's a large lady. 152 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:29,900 And to see him just like almost on his tiptoes trying to like give her kisses 153 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:34,900 and try to be sweet while he's got this like wild ass like Willem Dafoe 154 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:38,900 kind of like aggressive mustache look. 155 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:45,900 And he's in these shorts. He looks like like kind of just a child trying to kiss his mom. 156 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:50,900 So she's like, OK, you can stay one night, but that's it. 157 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:54,900 And he's like, OK, so he goes back to the bathroom to clean up or whatever for dinner. 158 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:56,900 Do more drugs. Yeah. 159 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:00,900 But I mean, that's what we in the drug industry call cleaning up. 160 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:03,900 And I left all these drugs out. I got to clean them up. 161 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,900 Putting them in my body. I don't treat them to. 162 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:12,900 I don't do drugs. That was very convincing. 163 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:18,900 So she sits down at her computer and then all of a sudden she's screaming and like he has to come out 164 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,900 and she's like, what the fuck do I use my computer for? 165 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:29,900 I use it for my spreadsheets for church business and replying to emails. 166 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:32,900 And it's just Asian teen squirting. 167 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:38,900 Yeah, Asian teen squirters and I was just like, given this kind of like what? 168 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,900 I didn't know I couldn't do that. 169 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:44,900 So she kicks him out and he's like, I can't go. 170 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,900 And she's like, you're fucking out of here. I got a suitcase full of guns. 171 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:51,900 Yeah, that's his excuse why he can't leave. 172 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:53,900 So she's like, OK. 173 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:58,900 So he's like kind of tussling with her, but she's obviously way bigger and stronger than him. 174 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:02,900 And so he grabs his knife and just cuts her throat. 175 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:05,900 And while she's going down, he like stabs her a few more times. 176 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:12,900 But then the shithead kid, like she comes down the stairs and Willems like, well, you're going out, too. 177 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:16,900 So he goes to the previously aforementioned suitcase full of guns, 178 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:19,900 because apparently stabbing a child is not good. 179 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:26,900 Got to shoot it, grabs a revolver, chases the kid upstairs and puts a pillow over the kid. 180 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:30,900 And then from about eight inches away shoots the kid. So twice. 181 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:34,900 Yeah. The pillow is not really doing anything to muffle the noise at this point. 182 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:42,900 It's mostly there so we don't have to see a child murder or a mannequin murder, because I bet that wasn't a real child, Sean. 183 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:46,900 I bet that child didn't die. I bet they lied to us. 184 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:53,900 I mean, this does continue the tradition so far of every child in a Nick Cage film is terrible. 185 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:54,900 Except for handpan. 186 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:57,900 Except for handpan. Handpan's got it going on. 187 00:10:57,900 --> 00:10:59,900 Handpan shouldn't get shot in the head twice. 188 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:01,900 Yeah. So then we move on. 189 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:02,900 To black and white. 190 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:04,900 Yeah. Black and white scene. 191 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:06,900 And turn Nick Cage. 192 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:11,900 Yeah. And he kind of what is this where he talks about how like nobody likes Mad Dog, 193 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,900 but he owes Mad Dog because he kind of helped him out in prison. 194 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:17,900 This is the exposition scene. Yeah. Cool. 195 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:21,900 So that's why he alone likes Mad Dog. 196 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:25,900 Yeah. Then we get into talking about like how these three guys. 197 00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:26,900 The Thor being Diesel. 198 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:33,900 Yeah. Diesel, who has absolutely no history given to us in this movie, I don't think. 199 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:40,900 Like apparently he's got connections with the mob and he's got a suburban home and a nagging wife. 200 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:41,900 Which none of that's in the film. 201 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,900 None of it. You never see any of that. 202 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:46,900 Diesel's a debt collector is what they give him. 203 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:50,900 Also, Diesel is played by Christopher Matthew Cook, who I don't know anything about. 204 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:56,900 Exactly. I thought it was Will Sasso for a second when the movie first started in black and white. 205 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,900 I'm like, this is a stretch for Sasso. 206 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:06,900 Yeah. So these three guys, what they do is they just collect loans for people, you know, mob people, most likely. 207 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:12,900 But because of the California three strikes law, these guys have to be careful. 208 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:15,900 That's all you need to know about these three guys. 209 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:21,900 They're shitty like criminals because obviously they've been to prison twice now. 210 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:25,900 Mad Dogs, Wild. We should say Nicholas Cage, Troy. 211 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:28,900 He fancies himself like a pretty smooth dude. 212 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:35,900 I actually kind of think that he like the character saw one too many Ocean's movies and just thinks that he's Danny Ocean. 213 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:37,900 Yeah. He really tries for that. 214 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:38,900 He's the fixer. 215 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:41,900 Even though like he's obviously trying to pull up Humphrey Bogart. 216 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:44,900 Because he looks like Bogart. Someone told him that in prison. 217 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:47,900 Yeah. It's like, well, you're kind of but stretched out. 218 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:51,900 Yeah. So these guys, they do a job. 219 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:55,900 They think it was in like Atlantic City or some shit. 220 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:57,900 I don't know. They I don't know. 221 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:03,900 They just get a guy to give them the money they owe a defense attorney who's, you know, 222 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:07,900 been taking bribes, wants to collect off an old client. 223 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:14,900 They go posing as cops in a crappy black sedan with bad white tape to spell police on it. 224 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:18,900 Nab him. Take him to the house where they keep drugs and money. 225 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:19,900 Safe house. 226 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:22,900 And so they go to the projects with this dude. 227 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:24,900 I mean, it's clearly supposed to be the projects. 228 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:28,900 I don't think Cleveland has that, but I didn't look into it. 229 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:32,900 They complain a lot about rap music and Taylor Swift in these scenes. 230 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:36,900 It's insane how many times Taylor Swift is brought up in this movie. 231 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:40,900 Yes. They talk about it when they're just talking about getting out of jail. 232 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:44,900 They like it. There's a Taylor Swift song, I think, at one point. 233 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:48,900 I don't know. But like her name, there's posters for Taylor Swift. 234 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:52,900 There's the strip club they hang out at on the sign outside. 235 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:54,900 It says Taylor Swift lookalike. 236 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,900 Yeah, the Taylor Swift lookalike contest. 237 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,900 And then at the end, Nick Cage is reading a maxim with Taylor Swift on the cover. 238 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,900 Yeah, it's so dumb. 239 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:07,900 They take this guy to the projects, shake him down. 240 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,900 They get the drugs. There wasn't money. 241 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:13,900 I'm assuming they just sold the drugs because in the next scene, 242 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:17,900 they're in a hotel room and Nick Cage shows up with a whole bunch of money 243 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,900 and splits it up between the guys. 244 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,900 So like each one got like nine grand out of this. 245 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:23,900 And then they have a party. 246 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:27,900 Yeah. And then they have a party where they proceed to just like do other drugs. 247 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:28,900 Jump on the bed. 248 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:29,900 Jump on the bed. Yeah. 249 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:31,900 Pillow fights, have a food fight. 250 00:14:31,900 --> 00:14:33,900 Three pebbles with orange juice. Yeah. 251 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:35,900 All sorts of like weird stuff. 252 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:37,900 It's a it's the dumbest party I've ever seen. 253 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:40,900 It's meant to show you how close they are as a group 254 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:43,900 because we're not going to get any other character development in this entire film. 255 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:45,900 No, they've wrapped it up now. 256 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:48,900 It's good. You know who likes who and who doesn't. 257 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:53,900 So Nick Cage and this sex worker are 258 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:55,900 let me say that less shitty. 259 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:59,900 Nick Cage and this lady of the evening are doing their thing. 260 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:02,900 She kind of plays him like trying to take her to Nice. 261 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:05,900 Yeah, he's like planning this expensive trip to Nice, 262 00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:08,900 which obviously he's not going to be able to do with the nine grand or whatever. 263 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,900 He just spent probably a lot of on her. 264 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:14,900 He bought her a tourmaline bracelet. Yeah. 265 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:16,900 And the other guys do their own shitty things. 266 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:19,900 This scene, it's probably the second most important scene 267 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:23,900 because then they decide they're going to like get a bigger job the next day 268 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:25,900 because they don't have any money. 269 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:28,900 So he goes to this guy, the Greek, the Greek. 270 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:32,900 It's the guy who gives them jobs played by the director. 271 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:35,900 Nobody else wanted to take the role. Yeah. 272 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:39,900 Yeah. He asked a bunch of people some of the names that he approached for this role, 273 00:15:39,900 --> 00:15:47,900 who all didn't take it, were Michael Wincott, Michael Douglas, Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, 274 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:52,900 Nick Nolte, Christopher Walken, Jeff Goldblum and Rupert Everett. 275 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,900 Literally any of those guys would have been better at acting than Paul Schrader. 276 00:15:56,900 --> 00:15:59,900 This was a Trader's first acting role. 277 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:02,900 It was his debut performance. It shows. 278 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:05,900 Yeah. So it's just a series of unfortunate events from here. 279 00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:09,900 They get a job. They're told, go abduct this guy's kid. 280 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:13,900 We'll ransom it. We'll give you guys $750,000. 281 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,900 Right. So he's like, great. They're like, OK. 282 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:20,900 Nicholas Cage thinks in his head, he's like, oh, it's kind of dangerous. 283 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:24,900 The success rate for ransoming kids are usually found. Blah, blah, blah. 284 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,900 But he decides to do it anyways, because otherwise there wouldn't be a movie. Shame. 285 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:31,900 They go. They make this plan. 286 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:35,900 They agree that it's either success or death. Yeah. Success or death. 287 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:37,900 Because they don't want no one can turn. 288 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:40,900 So if they're not going to succeed, they're going to do it samurai style. 289 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:42,900 Yeah. Ride or die. Ride or die. 290 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:47,900 They go to the known samurai phrase, ride or die. Yeah. Yeah. 291 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:51,900 I don't see what's confusing about that. So they go to the horses. Yeah. 292 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:55,900 Or they died. A running samurai doesn't have a very good chance in a battle. 293 00:16:55,900 --> 00:17:00,900 Sam, they go to this house, break in. 294 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:04,900 The dad not supposed to be there, but he is there because his baby mama's bringing her boyfriend around. 295 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:07,900 So he's there with a gun, passes out. 296 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:11,900 They break in. Best criminals ever wear no masks. Yeah. 297 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:16,900 No masks, no gloves. The dad walks into the baby's room as they're there, says, 298 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:21,900 You guys done fucked up. And then Mad Dog explodes his head with a shotgun. 299 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:29,900 So they take this baby. They take the kids like nurse or whatever, like nanny, lock her in a house. 300 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:34,900 Great. Last time we see that lady or that baby. Moving on. 301 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:41,900 Like Troy gets a phone call from the Greek and he's like, Hey, you guys have had some problems. 302 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:46,900 And Nicholas Cage is like, Oh, yeah, but nothing like too big. 303 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:51,900 And the Greeks like, well, you shot the guy we're supposed to get money from. 304 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,900 And they're like, no, we didn't. We shot Jose Vasquez. 305 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:57,900 It's like, well, no, who you shot was Brennan, blah, blah, blah. 306 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:03,900 Which is such a dumb, like, just wait and pull the rug out from under them because they checked his wallet. 307 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:07,900 He had an ID that said otherwise. What's why? What's the point? 308 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:12,900 Well, he's obviously a criminal. I just meant in terms of this story that again, spoiler alert. 309 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:16,900 This is where this story point stops. Yeah. 310 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:22,900 Elsewhere. Keep wanting to call Diesel Dom, but I know it's not a Fast and the Furious movie. 311 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:25,900 Because then it would be watchable. 312 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:29,900 That's debatable as you get towards the end of nine was garbage. 313 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:34,900 They're disposing of the body. Mad Dog and Diesel are getting rid of the body. 314 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:39,900 Diesel's got Mad Dog's got a place. Mad Dog also wants to confess something to Diesel. 315 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:49,900 Yeah. So he talks about how sad like while they're out disposing of a body, he's like, oh, man, you and you and Troy, you guys are so cool. 316 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:53,900 And I just want to be cool with you. And I know you don't like me. 317 00:18:53,900 --> 00:19:01,900 And this is real hard. And it's such a wacky Willem Dafoe insecurity speech. 318 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:05,900 Yeah. It's just strange to kind of sit through. 319 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:12,900 So they ditch the body, hijinks ensue as the floor gives out on the second floor and they fall through. 320 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:20,900 I really started to fade in this part of the movie. Diesel and Mad Dog not getting along. 321 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:24,900 They start to argue. Whatever. Diesel shoots Mad Dog. 322 00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:28,900 Boom. One character done. We can move on. Diesel starts going back. 323 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:35,900 He calls Troy. Troy's like, well, we got a problem because we shot the guy. 324 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:41,900 And Diesel's like, well, we got a problem, too, because Mad Dog's out. He's not coming back. 325 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:47,900 Don't see like Troy doesn't seem that broken up. Whatever. Nobody is because this movie. Awesome. 326 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:53,900 They get back together. Troy and Diesel. They had to go get snacks. 327 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:57,900 Yeah. Diesel wanted snacks. So they go to they go to an Apple grocery store. 328 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:01,900 We're back at the grocery store. Nick Cage stays in the car. 329 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,900 He's Maxim with Taylor Swift on the cover. Correct. 330 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:09,900 Diesel goes inside while he's inside reaching for something. 331 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:13,900 The manager sees that Diesel's packing heat and he calls the cops. 332 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:18,900 One cop's like when they show up, one cop's like, oh, yeah, I'll go in and check. 333 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:22,900 And then Lady Cop, you go over there and run the plates on that car. 334 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:35,900 So Lady Cop drives the cop car over, parks behind and instead of just running the plates, just like goes up, knocks on the windows like, hey, she gets Cage's ID. 335 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:44,900 He gets out of the car because she tells him to. There's like some kerfuffle and he decks her. 336 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:47,900 Yeah, he decks her, which is totally not cool because she wasn't trying to burn him. 337 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:52,900 And we've established you can punch women if they're trying to burn you. 338 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:55,900 But only once. No other reasons why you can. 339 00:20:55,900 --> 00:21:02,900 Episode four. Please see episode four, Wicker Man, for this rule that we will stick to forever. 340 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:13,900 And you should, too. Diesel is coming out and he sees Cage just be a real douche and punch a lady. 341 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:18,900 And then she like the other cops got caged at this point. Oh, yeah. 342 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:22,900 Yeah. And so Diesel's like, fuck it. I'm a shoot a hoe. 343 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:30,900 And so he pulls out his gun and he shoots a cop and then Diesel books it gets steals. 344 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:33,900 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Diesel runs off. Other cop chases him. No other cops. 345 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:39,900 So holding Cage. More cops show up. Oh, yeah. I just watched this like 10 minutes before you guys showed up. 346 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:45,900 He kills another cop. No, he shoots the other cop in the lake. Doesn't kill this one, but steals his car. 347 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:51,900 And as he's driving away, drives back through the parking lot just to, you know, give a bird to the first cop. 348 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,900 Yes. And then has a heart attack and dies. Yeah. 349 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,900 It's like, that's a shitty cinema moment. 350 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:03,900 I mean, the last 120 minutes have been shitty cinema moments. 351 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,900 We move on. Cage gets arrested. 352 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:16,900 Other cops take him to a quarry and proceed to kill the shit out of him for being a cop killer, even though, yeah, he punched that lady a few times. 353 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:26,900 Uncool. Uncool. And then beat him up a bit, then strap him or handcuff him to the side of the car and like drag him through the quarry. 354 00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:30,900 Yeah, they handcuffed him to the seatbelt, which they closed outside of the car. 355 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:37,900 Which seems like the perfect place to end this movie, but fade to black, fade back into a diner. 356 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:44,900 And we have a nice couple leave the diner only to be held at gunpoint by a fairly beat up Nick Cage. 357 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:48,900 Now doing a bad Humphrey Bogart. Yeah. 358 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:53,900 Now he's like he was always kind of trying to do the accent, but now he's like fully leaned into it. 359 00:22:53,900 --> 00:23:00,900 He takes this preacher and his wife when he when he goes to get in their car, he says just the dumbest thing. 360 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:04,900 He looks at the priest or the preacher and he's just like, you ever been inside? 361 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:09,900 You ever do time? And the priest is like, yeah, I have. 362 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,900 Well, then you know how it is. Yeah. They always they say they forgive you, but they haven't. 363 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:16,900 Yeah. They're driving them away. 364 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:24,900 Some cops go to like pull them over some shit gets out of the car and the cops are like, blah, blah, blah. 365 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:31,900 And he's like, no. And then like the cops just unload and shoot like the yeah. 366 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:38,900 They kill the people who are in the car, kill Nick Cage, who's like definitely far enough away from the car 367 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:41,900 that nobody should have been shooting into the car. 368 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:47,900 Then that's it. Who cares? That's and this whole final scene again. 369 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:52,900 I rewatched it to make sure that like when they were dragging him through the quarry that the handcuff broke or something, 370 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:55,900 because how does he get away? Did they just let him go? 371 00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:59,900 Well, it's not like he has a handcuff on his wrist in the next scene anyway. 372 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:08,900 No, that scene also starts with the news talking about how Troy and whatever Diesel's real name were pronounced dead at the scene. 373 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:13,900 So just it makes no sense. Was this his crazy like death throw of his brain? 374 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:17,900 I think that's definitely what it's supposed to be. It's not clear. 375 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:22,900 Agreed. Because like the big lean into the Bogart stuff. Yeah. 376 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:30,900 He talks about how in previous movies he's chosen to channel a former or an older actor or something for the role. 377 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:37,900 And he said that in this one he just like really went into it and like he channeled Humphrey Bogart. 378 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,900 It's funny because in the next movie we're going to talk about Ghost Rider. He channels Sling Blade. 379 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,900 I don't know if I'm supposed to take the bait on this one. 380 00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:48,900 I know whatever I say will get edited out though. Sling Blade Runner. 381 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:53,900 I freak out. Those replicants are funny. Not funny. 382 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:58,900 Ha ha. We got to wrap this one. It's an insufferably bad movie. 383 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,900 OK, but just to go. I mean, this is a zero out of 10. 384 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:05,900 I have at least 30 minutes more material for after the movie. 385 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:10,900 Just to get to the crux of this podcast, which is about Nicolas Cage films. 386 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:16,900 This is like the most non-performance I've seen him give yet. And I watched Left Behind. 387 00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:22,900 I'm kind of fascinated by this dichotomy because like Willem Dafoe is a pretty unhinged character actor. Right? 388 00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,900 Prime Dafoe. This is just Dafoe. It is an element. 389 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:32,900 What I find really interesting about Dafoe is that people, you know, the James Franco's of the world and Tobey Maguire's and Spider-Man are like, 390 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:39,900 Oh, I don't know. How do you get into the mindset of it? And Willem Dafoe is like, I read the script and I just do the things that they say. 391 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:43,900 And like, I think that Cage is much more of that like cerebral. Oh, yeah. 392 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:49,900 Yeah. And this one, it's such a fucking like wet fart performance from him. 393 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:53,900 It's just nothing. Nothing in there. Yeah. Yeah. All right. 394 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:58,900 Let's put a fucking bow on this one. Last thoughts, both of you. Then quotes. 395 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:03,900 I do that I liked one I think I like more. 396 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:07,900 First, you've got Troy. This is in the scene where he's trying to find him a better job. 397 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:12,900 And he's like, I'll get us a real good gig. I'll get us such a good gig. 398 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:17,900 I'll nab the tits right off. Yeah. I mean, it was an OK line. 399 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,900 Well, it's not an OK line. It's a shitty line and a shitty script. 400 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:28,900 But when they're abducting the baby, Troy, the nanny, the baby and Mad Dog. 401 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:32,900 And Troy is saying to the nanny, can you shut this baby up? No. 402 00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,900 You know how? Where's the thing you put in the fucking baby's mouth? 403 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,900 What's it called? And Mad Dog just says, real quiet. 404 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:46,900 Dick. It's like Mad Dog fucking seriously. 405 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,900 Yeah. The only the only quote I have on this is actually not a Nick Cage one. 406 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,900 And it was from Paul Schrader. 407 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:55,900 And he was quoted as saying, I've made some important films. 408 00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:59,900 Dog Eat Dog is not one of them. That's amazing. 409 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:03,900 Let's talk about what I think is comedy gold. 410 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:09,900 Ghostwriter, spiritual film, colon, ghostwriter, spiritual film, colon, ghostwriter. 411 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,900 Based on the Marvel comic, most everyone I feel who's listening to this at least knows who ghostwriter is. 412 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,900 Stuntman, Johnny Blaze. I wrote Johnny Cage in my notes. 413 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:23,900 Stuntman, Johnny Blaze makes a Faustian bargain and becomes the Devil's bounty hunter, the ghostwriter, 414 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,900 tasked with stopping the literal son of Satan, Blackheart, 415 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:33,900 and his emo boy band from obtaining the contract of Sanvanganza, a contract of a thousand evil souls. 416 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:41,900 This movie starts off with Sam Elliott doing his best Sam Elliott impression to narrate the contract of Sanvanganza, 417 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,900 which will get expositioned two more times in this film. 418 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:49,900 So there's no point to this scene somewhat explaining the legend of the ghostwriter 419 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,900 and how one ghostwriter kept the contract and outran the devil. 420 00:27:53,900 --> 00:28:00,900 Then we cut to a young Johnny Blaze and his father Barton Blaze doing a motorcycle jump 421 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:04,900 that is at most three feet across through a large ring of fire, 422 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:09,900 which I mean, I guess I was a hick from Texas in I assume the 70s. 423 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,900 Maybe impressive. Don't sue us, Texas. 424 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,900 Those lawyers only have law degrees from Texas, which I don't think count in the rest of the country. 425 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:23,900 Johnny has a crush. Johnny has a girlfriend, Roxy, who's being shipped off to live with her mom 426 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,900 because apparently the carnival is no place to raise a child. 427 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:30,900 So this is a love story about two carnies is where we start. 428 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:35,900 I gotta say, so the casting for young Eva Mendes pretty fucking good. 429 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:37,900 It looks like a young Eva Mendes. 430 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:41,900 And the casting for a young Nicolas Cage looks nothing like Nicolas Cage. 431 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:46,900 It looks like the dude who played Goku in that bad, like Americanized version of Dragon Ball. 432 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:53,900 But the best part is to connect those two characters of Nicolas Cage and not Nicolas Cage. 433 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:59,900 They just made Johnny Blaze keep the same haircut since he was 17 and blue contacts. 434 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,900 He had vivid blue eyes in this. 435 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,900 Roxy's being shipped away. 436 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:09,900 Johnny notches their initials into a tree that'll come back later. 437 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,900 She's going to be shipped off. So what are they going to do? 438 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,900 So Johnny decides he's going to run away with the with his girlfriend. 439 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:17,900 They're both 17 at the time. 440 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:23,900 Johnny goes home to plan his inevitable escape to find out his father is dying of cancer. 441 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:33,900 So he goes to work on the bikes to get away from his dad and blow off some steam where Peter Fonda shows up as Mephistopheles, 442 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,900 who has my favorite line in this film because he's walking through the carnival 443 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:41,900 and as he's walking through, all the lights are like exploding around him. 444 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:44,900 And he just stops, looks around and goes, far out. 445 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,900 That's the devil, folks. 446 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,900 He shows up and offers Johnny a deal. 447 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:51,900 You know, I will save your father's life. 448 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,900 You just have to sell me your soul. 449 00:29:54,900 --> 00:30:04,900 And Johnny doesn't so much agree as he just goes and looks at the contract, cuts his thumb on the spiky devil magic stuff, 450 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,900 and get some blood on there. And Peter Fonda is like, well, that'll do. 451 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,900 The next day, Barton's cured of cancer. 452 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,900 Everything's going great. 453 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:15,900 He's like, hey, I got my my scans back from this morning. 454 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,900 Yeah, I'm perfectly fine. 455 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:19,900 As a fiddle. 456 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,900 So wake up so early that I can go in and get cancer tests done. 457 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,900 Yeah. So the next day, they're preparing for the show or Barton preparing for the show. 458 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:30,900 Johnny's not getting ready. 459 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:31,900 Barton's like, what is going on? 460 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,900 It's like Ross's dad's going to send her away. We got to go. 461 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:35,900 It's like, that's that's a great plan. 462 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,900 The cops are going to get you before you get to the county line. 463 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,900 But Barton's got a soft spot for his kid and young love. 464 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:46,900 So agrees to help his child perform a kidnapping and give him the fastest bike they got. 465 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,900 Yeah, which happens to be a chopper, which is not a fast bike. 466 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:57,900 As Johnny is like walking his way out of the out of the carnival, you hear Barton go up and goes out like a bitch. 467 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,900 Yeah, his motorcycle is going up the ramp and then he just falls over. 468 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,900 And the next time we see his body, it's lightly singed, but he's dead. 469 00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:11,900 Yeah, this is this is roughly when I like lost it and could not tolerate this movie. 470 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:17,900 But again, so this is like this is the preamble to what is the best part of this film, which is Nicholas Cage. 471 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:24,900 So Johnny drives in the rain to find Roxy at the tree and just looks at her and drives off. 472 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:34,900 Cut to a year's cut to a now 50 year old Nicholas Cage jumping a large number of cab trucks. 473 00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:35,900 The tractor. Yeah. 474 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:36,900 A tractor trailer set up. 475 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:38,900 It's like, you know, you can't live in fear. 476 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,900 And he, you know, jumps in and just completely eats it on the landing. 477 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,900 The front the front wheel of the bike goes over, it's like smashes his helmet. 478 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,900 He like slides into the wall. 479 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:57,900 And then, you know, his best friend and guy runs the crew, Mac, played by Donal Lowe, my favorite character actor ever. 480 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:00,900 Make sure he's OK. Everything's fine. 481 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:02,900 The unkillable man, Mr. Immortal. 482 00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,900 Although the best part about this is Nick Cage. 483 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:11,900 Johnny, I'm wondering if this was just something to try and fuck with the rating of this film, but he doesn't drink. 484 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,900 He just has a martini glass of yellow and red jelly beans. 485 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,900 And he swirls it before you like them down. 486 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:29,900 Yeah, they talk about not in the film, but outside of them, they talk about him making this choice of changing Johnny and like taking away the drinking and the smoking and stuff. 487 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:34,900 So in the previous one, he's always like throwing away his dad's cigarettes and stuff like that. 488 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:40,900 And so in this one, they've decided to like he just decided like, you know, I'm going to play him clean. 489 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,900 Yeah. Johnny Blaze is portrayed as such larger than my thing. 490 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:47,900 I was born and raised on a coast. 491 00:32:47,900 --> 00:33:00,900 I don't know what happens between coasts, but I can't imagine going down to the Sobey Arena to watch a 10-second stunt of a guy like jumping a football field. 492 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,900 And that being a satisfying day, Johnny gets home. 493 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,900 Mac has given him more shit about he's getting into the cult. 494 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:10,900 He's got a bunch of religious texts. 495 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,900 There's a lot of cool illustrations of demons. 496 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:18,900 We see more and more of just the weird character that is Johnny Blaze. 497 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,900 More jelly beans, more monkey fights, more monkey. 498 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:27,900 Johnny Blaze is a weird obsession with monkeys, with chimps specifically in this scene. 499 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,900 He's just like channeling a five year old. Yes. 500 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,900 He's like, oh, he's got a there's a documentary on chimpanzees. I want to see it. 501 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,900 He's got a car off of jelly beans and he like asthma. 502 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:49,900 Wanted to jelly's. Also, I think Johnny might have been hit on the head or crashed one too many times or suffered so much head trauma because the accent is thicker than when he was younger and much worse. 503 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,900 And he still has, again, the haircut of a 17 year old boy. 504 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,900 And uncontrollable laughter. 505 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,900 And apparently he's just watching the TV. 506 00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:02,900 Yeah, apparently the the hairpiece took three hours to attach every day. 507 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:12,900 While all this is going on, we cut to the desert where Blackheart played by Wes Bentley, which is a guy that I always forget is a real person until I see him. 508 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:14,900 I'm like, oh, yeah, what's Bentley? 509 00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:26,900 Wes Bentley in 2000 and a 2010 interview admitted that this was at the height of his cocaine use and pretty much every role he took in this era of his work was solely to buy more drugs. 510 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:28,900 That's cool. 511 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,900 Drugs are cool. 512 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,900 I don't do drugs. 513 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,900 Yeah, he shows up and he only talks like this. 514 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,900 He's trying to find the contract of Sanvanganza. 515 00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:40,900 He didn't fall like his father. 516 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:43,900 So Mephistovelis has no control over him on this plane. 517 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:47,900 So Mephistovelis like, well, I'm going to get the ghostwriter kick your ass. 518 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:49,900 It's like, good luck with that. 519 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:54,900 So he goes and harasses some bikers, kills them all, like clears out a biker bar. 520 00:34:54,900 --> 00:35:01,900 That's when the planet here show up Blackheart's boy band of Earth, water and wind. 521 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:02,900 Yeah, there was an air demon. 522 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:03,900 Yeah. 523 00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,900 We're all apparently fallen angels who hide amongst the elements. 524 00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:17,900 So the three real demons we get in this movie, like this CG heavy action thriller, we get a guy who's just looks like Pigpen from peanuts, just coated in dirt. 525 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:18,900 That's dirt. 526 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:24,900 A guy with just wild hair and sharp teeth and a shitty mustache and a shitty mustache. 527 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:26,900 And then a guy who is just wet. 528 00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:27,900 Wet boy. 529 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:28,900 He's the best one. 530 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:36,900 And what's what's great is they they blew their entire wet boy budget on him being a puddle him. 531 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:45,900 Well, him like showing up out of water the first time in that really bad mid 2000s CG for liquid that they hadn't gotten down yet. 532 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:48,900 Like it hadn't gotten any better since the secret world about what's Mac. 533 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:50,900 Johnny is about to jump Max. 534 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:53,900 Like you can't jump 50 cars. 535 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:54,900 That's crazy. 536 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:56,900 You're already jumping a football field. 537 00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:58,900 And John is like, I got to prove it's me. 538 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:06,900 When he's getting ready, he like chugs coffee out of a coffee pot, just being more weird, weird celebrity again. 539 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:08,900 And he tells Max, like, don't worry. 540 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:09,900 I took the cars out to come back. 541 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:10,900 Like, oh, thank you. 542 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:11,900 Thank you. 543 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,900 That way, you know, if you crash, you'll just have soft grass to fall on. 544 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,900 And as he's going to do his stunt, he takes his cane. 545 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,900 Roxy shows up to interview him because now she's a news anchor. 546 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,900 And, oh, the most awkward interview receives like right before actions goes like, how you been? 547 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:28,900 I heard you got married. 548 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:29,900 She didn't get married. 549 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:30,900 Fell through. 550 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:37,900 And he's just and it just leaves up to her asking like, well, this whole life of celebrity and being on the road and death defined. 551 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,900 Has it ever cost you anything in your life? 552 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:40,900 Anything important in your life? 553 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:41,900 Did you miss out on anything? 554 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,900 And he just like solid to beat stare into nothing and goes. 555 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:48,900 Yeah. 556 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:50,900 And that's the interview. 557 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:52,900 And then he asked her to stay for the show. 558 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,900 And she's just like, I never like to watch you perform, Johnny. 559 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:55,900 And she leaves. 560 00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:02,900 And so Johnny goes to do the show and as Max, like walking him through the setup and it's like, I'm so glad you got rid of the cars. 561 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:08,900 The dome of the aforementioned so we don't open and six Apache helicopters land. 562 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:10,900 He's like, why didn't you tell me? 563 00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,900 It's like, well, you would have freaked out. 564 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,900 It's like, yeah, I'm not really into watching ritual sacrifice. 565 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:17,900 And Johnny's like, do you think she's on the freeway? 566 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:19,900 And he's like, what are you talking about? 567 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:29,900 And he just like guns it and just does the jump before they're ready just to get to the other end so he can just bail on the show and like chase her down the freeway. 568 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:37,900 And after being told she didn't like watching him risk his life, he's doing so much dumb tricks next to the car to like show off for her. 569 00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:39,900 Like riding on the handlebars. 570 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:51,900 OK, when he's riding on the handlebars, though, and like talking to her and he's, you know, you can see like one hand he's actually like air quoting right here, working the throttle and keeping the bike in place. 571 00:37:51,900 --> 00:38:08,900 And in order to have a larger conversation with he scoots back on the bike, but it's just like if I was sitting on a bench and just kind of lifted a leg and scooted back and lifted a leg and scooted back and it's like, that's that's not how you would like. 572 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:12,900 You don't even have anything to put your feet on to like scoot like that. 573 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:19,900 I'm assuming you can put your feet on the fender and like, but you'd have to like lean the bike to offset as your weight is adjusted. 574 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:21,900 This is the second and we all know about bike leaning. 575 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,900 Yeah, this is this is what we call a callback. 576 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:31,900 So but he gets a date. He asked, like, do you still like Italian Italian gets a date. 577 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:33,900 He can't. She's like, Don't be late. 578 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:40,900 So we cut to her in the restaurant downing a bottle of wine, like looking at her, like looking at her phone. 579 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:42,900 There are no messages. So Johnny's already late. 580 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:49,900 We cut to him in his apartment talking about how he can't be afraid, just staring in the mirror, just psyching himself up for a date. 581 00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:53,900 He's already late for you see his weird abs. Oh, yeah. 582 00:38:53,900 --> 00:39:04,900 It's always so strange when Nick Cage like works out because you just I assume that he would have just lived his life like any of us, like a normal dude. 583 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,900 Nick Cage is just like one of us. Yeah. I mean, I think so. 584 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,900 When he hears a motorcycle outside, Mephistopheles is there. 585 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,900 We're 45 minutes into this movie right now. 586 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:22,900 And he's told that, you know, it's time to pay up on that contract and he's got to go stop Blackheart. 587 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:24,900 And Johnny's like, that's your problem. 588 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:29,900 Gets on again the bike that the devil had waiting for him outside. 589 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:36,900 And then the bike just shoots down the road, shooting fire out the back of it, blowing cars into local businesses, 590 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:40,900 destroying this part of Texas. 591 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:46,900 And the bike takes him to the cemetery where the contract used to be. 592 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:52,900 And now at just over 50 minutes of film, the bike like thrusts him onto the floor. 593 00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:57,900 And we see the actual ghostwriter transformation for the first time, which still looks pretty cool. 594 00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:03,900 Yeah. And we see the most I think the most cage scene we've seen yet in this podcast. 595 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:12,900 Oh, he just formations goes between screaming and laughing maniacally and transforms into a pretty cool rendition of the ghostwriter. 596 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:18,900 2007 still like the CG for the most part still holds up like the fire looks cool. 597 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:24,900 Yeah. The the skull was actually based on X rays of Nick Cage's head. 598 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,900 Like they designed it after Nick Cage's actual skull. 599 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:32,900 Well, at least it would fit like face bits and stuff just kind of burn away. 600 00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:37,900 So it transitions nicely into a skull with cheekbones in the correct spot. 601 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:44,900 Yeah, it's not too bad. And then it's and it's only ever good as long as it's not in a scene with anybody. 602 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:51,900 The first transformation, like the appearance then kind of sucks because of the jacket he's wearing. 603 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:53,900 Yeah. The second jacket better. 604 00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:59,900 But it's mostly because of how it's not even like the spikes and like the cool gauntlets and everything. 605 00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:07,900 Those all do make him a lot cooler. But that first jacket, it looks so like padded and like V shaped. 606 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,900 His torso looks enormous. 607 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:16,900 What I always found really weird, too, is I don't know how familiar you are with like human hand bones, but they're like it's just, you know, 608 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:20,900 little strings of bones or just little rows of bones that go from your wrist to the end of your fingers. 609 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,900 So just seeing that on fire is not impressive at all. 610 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,900 It just looks like he has tiny baby hands. Yeah. 611 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:35,900 And here. So here's my connection to Wicker Man as he's rocking up to stop Blackheart fucking semi truck comes out of nowhere 612 00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:39,900 and just smashes into a train just. Yeah, that's true. 613 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:47,900 And that's by the dirt guy who we never actually see his power because he's just dirty. 614 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,900 Yeah, that's not it. I mean, we want to see actions. 615 00:41:51,900 --> 00:42:05,900 I just need like three or four seconds of like people exploding in dirt and like people sinking in dirt and like people just like ruining their white pants on dirt. 616 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:07,900 I'm assuming this is the pain he causes. 617 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:13,900 Mostly dirt related pain. People exploding. Yes. With dirt. With dirt. Yeah. 618 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:20,900 Can you imagine if well, it's like a you remember vacuums that when they had like the internal bag, but if you overfilled it. 619 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:26,900 Yeah. That's what people are. Yeah. We're just a vessel for dirt. 620 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:30,900 And eventually the dirt comes out in our white pants on our white pants. 621 00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:37,900 One of the really interesting part of this is how they did the really demonic ghostwriter voice. 622 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,900 They had Nick Cage record the lines. 623 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:45,900 Then they filter those through three separate animal noises growls played backwards 624 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:51,900 and then put it through like a mechanical volumizer before adding like adding like charcoal crackle. 625 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,900 Probably the most interesting production part of it. 626 00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:56,900 Yes. Because I would listen to it. 627 00:42:56,900 --> 00:43:01,900 It's like when Sam Elliott ghosted out, you could tell it was Sam Elliott. 628 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:06,900 When Nicolas Cage ghosts out, it's like I can hardly even understand what they're saying. 629 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:14,900 Yeah. And oh God, there's a great there's a great action film one liner ghostwriter rocks out from behind the truck, taps him on the shoulders like, 630 00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,900 Hey, dirt bag. I love that proceeds to like burn him up. 631 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,900 Oh, yeah. With the chain just wraps his flamey chain around him. 632 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,900 And that sends him back to hell all the while. 633 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:29,900 Roxy is still in the restaurant just drinking more wine. 634 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,900 At one point, she pulls out a magic eight ball. 635 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,900 What was the deal with the eight? I don't know. 636 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:42,900 They never established it in their like past. No, I was going to ask you if that was like a comic known trope for the only thing I could think of is the orb. 637 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:48,900 It was a character who just has a giant eyeball as a head that doesn't seem like that's what they were going for. 638 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,900 No, but it's the only thing I could think of. 639 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:59,900 And my favorite Roxy line from the film is she's like downed at least a full bottle of wine in the waiters, just kind of circling the whole time. 640 00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:01,900 And she's like, you think I'm pretty right. 641 00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:04,900 And he just goes, just walks off. 642 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:09,900 Yeah, because that waiter has a chance with, you know, somebody better looking than Ava Mendes. 643 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:16,900 But then the ghost rider drives through town after destroying the dirt demon, but letting Blackheart and the rest get away. 644 00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:18,900 They don't show they don't show them escaping. 645 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:20,900 He just kills one of them and just fucks off. 646 00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,900 Oh, but then we see the bike actually turn into the hell cycle for the first time. 647 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:29,900 True. Which the hell cycle reeks of the spawn movie. 648 00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:31,900 This whole movie reeks of the spawn movie. 649 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:33,900 The CG is better. Yeah. 650 00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:39,900 Then he stops a mugging where a goth checks being like in a purse stolen. Rebel Wilson. 651 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,900 Also, first appearance in cinema. Oh, yeah. 652 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:46,900 That was Josie's favorite part of the movie, the Rebel Wilson interview. 653 00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:53,900 Thanks, Ghost Rider. Just ending with the description of him and just being like, his head was on fire. 654 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:55,900 Like, oh, yeah. 655 00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:59,900 She buries the lead with that one, too, because she was like, well, you know, he was like thin, but like not too thin. 656 00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:02,900 He was like cut. He like had a cool motorcycle. 657 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,900 Oh, and his head was on fire. Yeah. 658 00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:07,900 His head was a skull. 659 00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:09,900 This is the first time we see the pennant stare. 660 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:17,900 So when the Ghost Rider looks into evil's eyes and deep in their eyes, yeah, can like make them relive all the pain they've caused and it kills them. 661 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:26,900 This is when we're introduced to Sam Elliott, who solely plays Sam Elliott in this film, who is a caretaker, plays the caretaker of the cemetery where Barton Blaze is buried. 662 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:32,900 Convenient and says his one memorable line from this film, hey, bonehead, finds out about the contract. 663 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,900 We get all the exposition that we should have gotten half an hour ago. 664 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,900 This movie is two hours long for no reason. 665 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:43,900 Like I said, it's an hour until we see Ghost Rider, which it doesn't need to be. 666 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,900 We get a few more fight scenes. 667 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:53,900 He admits to Roxy what's going on, that he's a devil's bounty hunter and she thinks he's insane or just lying to her because wouldn't you? 668 00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:56,900 But then, of course, lie to a woman. 669 00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:11,900 The best scene in the film where he's in jail and he's surrounded by evil people and just starts losing his shit gets into one of the one of the guys in the holding cell, like rips his jacket and starts haranguing him. 670 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:24,900 And then just the coolest visual scene is he goes writers out like blows everyone away, like across the room into bars and he's walking through and as he's walking sprinklers are going off when he's walking under them. 671 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:35,900 There's a lot of visual flavor in this scene and then like goes up to the guy who ripped his jacket, like nice jacket gets the jacket, gets the gloves, which hold up, which hide the baby fingers. 672 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:43,900 And when he walks to the end of the end of the cell, the bar just melt around him. Like just there's a lot of love that went into this scene. 673 00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:47,900 The one motorcycle chase we get in this, he fights the wind boy. 674 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:49,900 There's a police helicopter chasing him. 675 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:54,900 Cage, like, or goes right or like lasso's it and he's like, come here. 676 00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,900 The helicopter pilot's like, no. 677 00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,900 He's like, you're pissing me off. 678 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:01,900 Just come here. 679 00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:02,900 No, I don't think. 680 00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:08,900 Oh, and before he kills the before he kills the wind guy, he says time to clear the air. 681 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,900 There's so many good just bad puns in this. 682 00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:16,900 He defeats the wind boy who says like, you can't catch the wind. 683 00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:22,900 So he like spins a chain on fire and catches the wind goes back to the caretaker. 684 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:28,900 This is when we find out that the caretaker is actually the ghostwriter who escaped with the contract. 685 00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:34,900 He, you know, ghost writers up is like, I got one more ride in me and they ride 500 miles to San Venganza. 686 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:38,900 Get there. Then he Sam Elias back up and like, I can only do it one more time. 687 00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:41,900 And I saved it for this. Saved it for what? 688 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,900 Why did he even go at that point? 689 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,900 Yes. And he like he leaves the scene like he rides off into the sun. 690 00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:52,900 Well, into the sunrise being like, I've done a lot of bad. 691 00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:54,900 I'm hoping this is enough for him to forgive me enough. 692 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,900 What you you whisked out at the end. 693 00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:01,900 You could have rode a bitch on the motorcycle, got to San Venganza, 694 00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:07,900 and then both of you just curb stomp fucking West Bentley. 695 00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:11,900 But they doesn't. He hands him a shotgun and they go on there and he goes on his way. 696 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:16,900 How much would you love to see Sam Elliot riding bitch behind Ghost Rider on a motorcycle? 697 00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:21,900 That's all I want to say. Just with his arms lightly wrapped around Ghost Rider's waist. 698 00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:23,900 Bony arms, though, right? 699 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:27,900 Although that would be really funny if they were both ghosted out 700 00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:34,900 like two like badass bone boys, just the heads ablaze arms gently wrapped around. 701 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:38,900 Wait, how did he kill Waterboy or Wetboy? 702 00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:42,900 So he's like he's walking his motorcycle through a shallow pond 703 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:45,900 and he gets pulled down into this very deep pond now. 704 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:48,900 And Waterboy is just like trying to drown him. 705 00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:51,900 So he just ghost riders out and boils them. Yeah. 706 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,900 He just turns on fire, which is his one power. 707 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:58,900 Dumbass, which is also just kind of dumb because we don't get a one liner for that one. 708 00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:00,900 Yeah, because he's underwater. 709 00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:05,900 We get to the fight, throws him the the contract, but then they start tussling. 710 00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:09,900 He eventually gets a contract, which gives him the power of bad CG red eyes. 711 00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,900 And West Bentley is one memorable line from the film. 712 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,900 Yes, so he gets our legion contract. 713 00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:20,900 We are many that lets him absorb all the soul, all the souls, 714 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,900 which is how we got to this point. 715 00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:24,900 I don't think we addressed what was actually going to happen. 716 00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:26,900 A thousand. Well, we didn't know what was going to happen until this point. 717 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,900 But a thousand. So he gets the power of a thousand souls. 718 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,900 I'm pretty sure hell has more than a thousand souls. 719 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:34,900 So, yeah, they tussle. 720 00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,900 Roxy actually kind of comes to the rescue and like start shooting West Bentley 721 00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:41,900 because now they're in daylight and he can't be ghostwriter in daylight. 722 00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:46,900 So he's trying to get into a crypt like in the shadows where you can ghostwriter out. 723 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:50,900 She distracts West Bentley with the two shots left in the shotgun. 724 00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:53,900 You know, Nick Cage like throw me the guns like it's not throw me the gun. 725 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:57,900 She's she throws him the gun and he like thrusts his hands into the shadow. 726 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:02,900 And the gun gets ghostwriter out and he shoots West Bentley, blowing him up. 727 00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:07,900 And then, oh, the one thing that really is he tried to penance their black heart, 728 00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:09,900 but he has no soul to burn. 729 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:13,900 So Nick Cage, you know, ghostwriter out grabs him like, you know, 730 00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:18,900 now you're full of a thousand souls, feel them all burn and burns them all up. 731 00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:23,900 Killing Blackheart, Mephistopheles shows up like, cool, you fulfilled the contract. 732 00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,900 Just give me back the ghostwriter and I'll be on my way. 733 00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:30,900 Johnny Blaisley, now I'm going to keep this. I'm going to use it against you. 734 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,900 And the devil gets mad and fucks off. 735 00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:38,900 Johnny drives them back to the tree from their childhood, 736 00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:42,900 which I can't imagine was that close, where they have their where they say 737 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:46,900 their goodbye and have their last awkward kiss of the movie. 738 00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:51,900 Turn to the end and then to the end and then to the end and then I do want to talk about one. 739 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,900 I do want to get to the point in one part of this film. 740 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:55,900 I do want to get the point. 741 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:58,900 One point in this film, which is the point point to it. 742 00:50:58,900 --> 00:50:59,900 Well, no, there's that awkward. 743 00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:03,900 He like stands at the side, raises his arm kind of above eye level 744 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:05,900 and points down at people from far away. 745 00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:07,900 And that's how Johnny Blaisley always points. 746 00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:08,900 They do it seven times in this film. 747 00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:13,900 And I have to imagine that there was just some key concept art of Ghost Rider doing that. 748 00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:15,900 So Nick Cage just made that his thing. 749 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:20,900 I thought it was the only way the CG people could make Ghost Rider do it. 750 00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:26,900 Like like they did a mock up of the CG and it's like, well, this is how a bony hand is going to point. 751 00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:29,900 It's probably going to have like a dumb claw when you point a shit. 752 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:34,900 But it's it's it's so funny to see him and young him do it throughout the film. 753 00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,900 Oh, yeah. Yeah. They established this is how he points. 754 00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:40,900 Yeah. Yeah. That's that's pretty much Ghost Rider. 755 00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,900 Do you have any favorite quotes from this film? 756 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:47,900 I liked the two one liners like the dirt bag and 757 00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:52,900 well, whatever, clear the air time to clean that clear the air. 758 00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:54,900 Yeah. I wish he would have thrown out. 759 00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:57,900 I like got to get wet to stay wet. 760 00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:02,900 I really enjoyed not necessarily a spoken line, 761 00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:10,900 but when Ghost Rider jumps the bike off of a bridge and then like gets it to raise up on the water 762 00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:15,900 and then just rides away on top of the river, flipping off the cops. 763 00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:18,900 Yeah. That's my unspoken quote that I loved. 764 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:22,900 I do like when he goes for it and does, ah, ah, ah, and lags his finger. 765 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:27,900 My favorite Nick Cage line, Max, like changing the channel and there's a monkey. 766 00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:34,900 There's a chimp documentary on and Nick Cage goes, put the monkey show on Mac Mac, the monkey show. 767 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:39,900 As far as like superhero movies and stuff we're going at this time, 768 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,900 I mean, we're trending forward. 769 00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:45,900 I mean, not necessarily Spider-Man really set the bar. 770 00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:48,900 Yeah. But Blade was pretty good, too. 771 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:50,900 Blade was the first. Yeah. 772 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,900 But I mean, you know, in terms of a comic, accurate Ghost Rider, this was pretty close. 773 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:55,900 Yeah, it's not bad. 774 00:52:55,900 --> 00:53:00,900 It's not what I wanted in 2007. Being a huge Marvel fan, he really pushed for this role. 775 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,900 He wanted to do this like he loves Marvel Comics. Yeah. 776 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:06,900 He stole the name Cage from Luke Cage, Power Man. 777 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:12,900 But yeah, I watched both these movies twice and I enjoyed one of them twice. 778 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,900 Yeah, I think it's fair to say that I think we're on the same page with this. 779 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:19,900 I don't think dog eat dog is really going down this week. 780 00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,900 It's going to be big winner. Yeah. Yeah. 781 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:26,900 Dog eat dog taking it all the way. Wait, what? No, no. 782 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,900 Critics, roll them. 783 00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,900 OK, I mean, I'm going to assume you're being facetious. Yeah, yeah. 784 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:34,900 No dog eat dog stuff. 785 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,900 Ghost Rider is an awesome comedy. Yeah, it's good. 786 00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:40,900 And clearly a lot of love went into it from a lot of people. 787 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,900 Yeah, I agree. I think a lot of people really enjoyed making it. 788 00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:47,900 Whether Peter enjoyed the movie or not is irrelevant. 789 00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:50,900 I didn't and you're right. 790 00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:52,900 What is coming up next, Peter? 791 00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:56,900 All right. Next up, we have our comedy bracket. 792 00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,900 It's it could happen to you and racing with the moon. 793 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:04,900 I have not watched it. So our non planned sequential pairings 794 00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,900 continues with its Bridget Fonda, which is Peter Fonda's daughter. 795 00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:11,900 These are weirdly connecting. Yeah. 796 00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,900 Well, from Hayden's bedroom, we wish you all a good day and a good night. 797 00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:21,900 Yeah, do us a favor and rate us five stars and subscribe. 798 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:23,900 Even if you don't like us. Yeah. 799 00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:30,900 Oh, I figured you meant something about cloaca's. 800 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:32,900 Yeah, I could have. 801 00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:34,900 I mean, I got to say, a cloaca makes a lot of sense. 802 00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:36,900 Like, that's an efficient hole. Yeah. 803 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:42,900 It's for piss and shit and fucking maximize one orifice. 804 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:45,900 This is really less appealing the more you talk about it. 805 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,900 Listen, you heard it here. I'm pro cloaca. 806 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,900 Deal with it. A hole's a hole, man. 807 00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:58,900 What's better? Like, you tell me where I'm just going to. 808 00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:02,900 Yeah, go up. Stop. 809 00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:06,900 Stop better. Keep going. 810 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:13,900 All right. That's pretty good.