WEBVTT 00:00:01.830 --> 00:00:24.230 Oh God. We need a cold open. I got a cold open 00:00:24.230 --> 00:00:27.190 for us. Give it a beat. Oh, okay. Well then we 00:00:27.190 --> 00:00:29.969 don't need one. Is it a tombstone joke? What's 00:00:29.969 --> 00:00:32.789 what's cold? I don't know. I mean, this is episode, 00:00:32.950 --> 00:00:34.369 we're doing episode, we're doing the second episode 00:00:34.369 --> 00:00:37.450 now, right? Well, yeah. Second episode, episode 00:00:37.450 --> 00:00:40.429 three and four. Episode two, three and four, 00:00:40.509 --> 00:00:43.310 go. We need a cold open to our episode, which 00:00:43.310 --> 00:00:46.810 is this. I just learned this weird fact. Camille 00:00:46.810 --> 00:00:51.490 Nagyane doesn't have nipples. What? He was born 00:00:51.490 --> 00:00:55.149 without nipples. What? Haven't I seen him shirtless 00:00:55.149 --> 00:00:58.649 a bunch? Do they give him nipples? Do they nipple 00:00:58.649 --> 00:01:01.009 him? I don't think we've seen him shirtless that 00:01:01.009 --> 00:01:03.890 much. I'm googling this. It was on Taskmaster 00:01:03.890 --> 00:01:07.890 this week. The task was to unnecessarily censor 00:01:07.890 --> 00:01:12.930 something. So he cut the nipple spot off his 00:01:12.930 --> 00:01:17.090 shirt and censored it. And the joke was, I don't 00:01:17.090 --> 00:01:19.569 have nipples. So one, I'm a man. You don't need 00:01:19.569 --> 00:01:21.950 to censor my tits. And two, there's nothing to 00:01:21.950 --> 00:01:27.290 censor. Weird. Yeah. Doesn't have nipples. Are 00:01:27.290 --> 00:01:32.390 you fact -checking this? Yes. Why would I lie 00:01:32.390 --> 00:01:35.349 about this? I don't know. That's a good question. 00:01:35.469 --> 00:01:36.950 Why would you lie about this? I'm not implying 00:01:36.950 --> 00:01:39.489 that you're lying about this. I'm implying that 00:01:39.489 --> 00:01:42.549 something you heard on Taskmaster might not necessarily 00:01:42.549 --> 00:01:47.370 have been a fact. What is prevented in this entertainment? 00:01:47.530 --> 00:01:50.170 He's the one who said he doesn't have nipples. 00:01:50.230 --> 00:01:52.189 He was the one telling the story. The perfect 00:01:52.189 --> 00:01:53.930 person to make up the lie. I say a lot of things, 00:01:54.090 --> 00:01:56.049 too. I mean, like, I'm looking at a picture of 00:01:56.049 --> 00:01:59.930 him with nipples. yeah because he got super jacked 00:01:59.930 --> 00:02:01.469 i feel like he showed a bunch of marvel pics 00:02:01.469 --> 00:02:03.730 where he had and now i'm wondering if they gave 00:02:03.730 --> 00:02:06.609 him fake nips but well here's older like side 00:02:06.609 --> 00:02:09.729 by sides yeah he's got nipples i think his nipples 00:02:09.729 --> 00:02:13.469 might just be misplaced i'm looking at a lot 00:02:13.469 --> 00:02:17.629 of photos of kumail nanjiani's nipples so obviously 00:02:17.629 --> 00:02:20.389 we're here to talk about episodes three and four 00:02:20.389 --> 00:02:24.990 of spider noir welcome back and if this is your 00:02:24.990 --> 00:02:27.050 first episode listening to us what the fuck are 00:02:27.050 --> 00:02:29.810 you doing Welcome back to HageMatch colon roundabout 00:02:29.810 --> 00:02:31.449 way of meeting Nicholas Gage. I'm your host Sean 00:02:31.449 --> 00:02:35.810 here with my co -host. Nipples. And our producer. 00:02:36.229 --> 00:02:40.870 Peter, hello. None of us have nipples. Fact check 00:02:40.870 --> 00:02:44.889 it. Nipples are a lie. They're a lie put on us 00:02:44.889 --> 00:02:48.770 by Big Nipple. Big Nipple. Yeah. nobody's born 00:02:48.770 --> 00:02:50.750 with nipples they do that to you when you're 00:02:50.750 --> 00:02:53.189 a baby yeah they add them in you come out they 00:02:53.189 --> 00:02:54.909 spank you and they give you a titty twister and 00:02:54.909 --> 00:02:57.150 what's left over is the nipple yeah and see if 00:02:57.150 --> 00:02:58.969 you're a boy and you get circumcised that's how 00:02:58.969 --> 00:03:01.370 they build the nipple material oh they just put 00:03:01.370 --> 00:03:02.870 the foreskin i don't know what they did for you 00:03:02.870 --> 00:03:06.129 sean this this would explain why why it's all 00:03:06.129 --> 00:03:10.550 areola and no nip maybe that's maybe that's his 00:03:10.550 --> 00:03:12.250 thing maybe he just has areolas maybe he just 00:03:12.250 --> 00:03:13.449 doesn't have the nubs because i don't have the 00:03:13.449 --> 00:03:17.840 nubs maybe that's what he's talking about Okay. 00:03:17.939 --> 00:03:22.099 Back to Google. Nick is back on his phone. Enhance. 00:03:22.340 --> 00:03:27.120 Zoom in. Yeah. Episode three and four of Spider 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.620 Noir. It's still good. Still good. I think there's 00:03:30.620 --> 00:03:33.460 a hint of shadow underneath that one. There must 00:03:33.460 --> 00:03:37.039 be a nipple. So episode three. This is the rest 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:41.639 of Nick's episode. Episode three for me, it like 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.919 maybe lost my attention. a little bit more than 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.520 the first two had held it but it ends really 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.680 strong i i still think it was good but it was 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.780 one of those like oh no am i did i just like 00:03:53.780 --> 00:03:56.680 really love the first two um but then i got sucked 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.479 back in because there's a lot of good silvermane 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.219 shit and silvermane's a good bad guy there's 00:04:02.219 --> 00:04:04.719 a lot of good silvermane shit we get a little 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.460 bit more of in these two episodes we get a little 00:04:07.460 --> 00:04:11.210 bit more of like ben being a little weird being 00:04:11.210 --> 00:04:14.270 a little quirky um there was one scene that i 00:04:14.270 --> 00:04:18.009 really wanted to pay off more that i don't think 00:04:18.009 --> 00:04:20.829 is coming back it's just like nick cage being 00:04:20.829 --> 00:04:23.689 nick cage but there's like there's a scene where 00:04:23.689 --> 00:04:27.209 ben's killing time and he goes to like see a 00:04:27.209 --> 00:04:29.870 gangster movie and he's just repeating the lines 00:04:29.870 --> 00:04:33.089 back and i'm like cool is that why he fucking 00:04:33.089 --> 00:04:35.550 talks that way and no one else does because he's 00:04:35.550 --> 00:04:38.589 trying to be a hard -boiled detective And I don't 00:04:38.589 --> 00:04:40.949 think that's the joke. I don't think that's the 00:04:40.949 --> 00:04:44.990 rub. And I really want it to be because I just 00:04:44.990 --> 00:04:48.829 want some reason why he's like this. Sure. Yeah. 00:04:48.870 --> 00:04:52.870 What were 30s movies like at the time? Did they 00:04:52.870 --> 00:04:55.069 have hardboiled detective flicks or was it like, 00:04:55.170 --> 00:04:58.550 hey, this one is train? Yeah. It's a train coming 00:04:58.550 --> 00:05:04.209 at you. I Googled this. So the first talk he 00:05:04.209 --> 00:05:07.709 was in, the first talk he was in 27. okay all 00:05:07.709 --> 00:05:12.490 right so this is 30s you know yeah so it wasn't 00:05:12.490 --> 00:05:14.189 train it was beyond that yeah it wasn't just 00:05:14.189 --> 00:05:16.730 like a building falling around one guy you know 00:05:16.730 --> 00:05:20.389 the classics yeah i do love a good buster keaton 00:05:20.389 --> 00:05:22.949 though buster keaton is great i thought johnny 00:05:22.949 --> 00:05:26.189 knoxville almost died johnny knoxville almost 00:05:26.189 --> 00:05:28.920 died from a building buster keaton style falling 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.839 on him yes uh the end of jackass 2 there's a 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.620 musical number where like uh they do like the 00:05:34.620 --> 00:05:36.360 buster keaton like building fall and it like 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.579 just goes right on johnny and the first took 00:05:38.579 --> 00:05:43.279 take the first take they took uh he was like 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.420 getting ready and they were like what no matter 00:05:45.420 --> 00:05:50.180 what you do do not move from that spot um or 00:05:50.180 --> 00:05:53.329 you will die and then They're like, OK, wait, 00:05:53.449 --> 00:05:55.610 no, we have to reset. And he took a step. But 00:05:55.610 --> 00:05:57.829 somebody already like released the building. 00:05:58.089 --> 00:06:02.189 Oh, no. Collapsed on him. Wow. That's fucking 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:08.329 terrifying. I am. I. To prepare for the final 00:06:08.329 --> 00:06:10.550 jackass film, I've gone back and watched the 00:06:10.550 --> 00:06:13.019 first two. And I'm just like, one, I'm older 00:06:13.019 --> 00:06:14.980 now and it just looks painful. It doesn't look 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:18.139 funny anymore. No. I also did a lot of gross 00:06:18.139 --> 00:06:21.199 shit that I also just like. Why? Like Steve -O, 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.439 Steve -O, like snorting like straight wasabi. 00:06:24.540 --> 00:06:28.079 I'm like. Yeah, it's it's a lot of suffering 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.139 that I feel like they just don't need to put 00:06:30.139 --> 00:06:32.180 themselves through. Also, what the fuck happened 00:06:32.180 --> 00:06:34.660 to Steve -O's voice? Have you heard him? Yeah. 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:40.759 He's got RFK voice for sure. it's weird i don't 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:49.139 like it i do appreciate that steve -o got like 00:06:49.139 --> 00:06:52.740 a portrait of himself tattooed on his back i 00:06:52.740 --> 00:06:55.639 do like that too nobody's got a cooler portrait 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:00.800 tattoo than roger stone what he's got like a 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:06.319 maybe larger than life size tattoo of richard 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.040 nixon yeah like between his shoulder blades whoa 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.540 yeah he's just got a big old richard nixon just 00:07:13.540 --> 00:07:16.620 the head fucking jowls galore yeah giant just 00:07:16.620 --> 00:07:20.339 a giant dick on his back yeah exactly roger stone 00:07:20.339 --> 00:07:25.139 is the one person from the uh the trump atmosphere 00:07:25.139 --> 00:07:30.000 that i'm sad we don't have more of like of all 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.220 the people that we got left with i know we got 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:36.379 like a lot of stephen miller yeah we get fucking 00:07:36.379 --> 00:07:41.420 nosferatu and rfk and all these like kind of 00:07:41.420 --> 00:07:43.339 idiots and whatever oh yeah it's a little smaller 00:07:43.339 --> 00:07:47.939 than life size but um okay yeah that is so weird 00:07:47.939 --> 00:07:52.540 but this legitimate like villain we don't get 00:07:52.540 --> 00:07:56.060 enough of like he top hat like round black like 00:07:56.060 --> 00:08:00.899 yeah glasses richard nixon tattoo well okay so 00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:05.449 this this episode we get we get more we're silvermane 00:08:05.449 --> 00:08:07.750 shit and i think he does a good job being a fucking 00:08:07.750 --> 00:08:11.689 villain yeah he's just he's he's a really really 00:08:11.689 --> 00:08:14.329 effective villain but he's also like sort of 00:08:14.329 --> 00:08:17.050 weirdly humanized in this episode like you can 00:08:17.050 --> 00:08:19.850 tell that he's almost afraid or something like 00:08:19.850 --> 00:08:21.730 he sleeps in that giant bed but he looks kind 00:08:21.730 --> 00:08:24.930 of like a baby oh yeah yeah yeah i don't know 00:08:24.930 --> 00:08:27.149 i like him i think brennan gleason's fucking 00:08:27.149 --> 00:08:29.410 awesome though i liked when he looked underneath 00:08:29.410 --> 00:08:33.480 the bed yeah this episode he hires Ben to like 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:36.879 try and figure out who's trying to kill him because 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:39.299 he can't trust his own his own goons yeah find 00:08:39.299 --> 00:08:42.639 the rat yeah yeah find the rat and then yeah 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:47.100 Ben as I mistakenly assumed in the first two 00:08:47.100 --> 00:08:49.980 episodes like figures out he's marking all his 00:08:49.980 --> 00:08:53.039 money so the spider breaks into Silvermane's 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.360 apartment to deal some money and a really cool 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:00.610 use of the spider sense to like trigger the tumblers 00:09:00.610 --> 00:09:03.629 yeah with the tumblers yeah that was cool backing 00:09:03.629 --> 00:09:08.350 up a little bit uh ben goes to find fire boy's 00:09:08.350 --> 00:09:12.169 wife what was uh addison addison's wife because 00:09:12.169 --> 00:09:16.769 he because he wants to figure out who put the 00:09:16.769 --> 00:09:19.429 hit out on silvermane turns out it's felicia 00:09:19.429 --> 00:09:24.750 um cat hardy cat hardy felicia hardy i'm gonna 00:09:24.750 --> 00:09:26.710 get confused with spider -man lore here but cat 00:09:26.710 --> 00:09:31.179 hardy um but He doesn't want Kat to take the 00:09:31.179 --> 00:09:35.480 fall. So Addison's wife's like, well, you know, 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.879 unless you pay me a thousand dollars, I'm just 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.320 going to tell Silverman and get the money myself. 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.299 So he needs a thousand dollars. So I assumed 00:09:42.299 --> 00:09:44.679 he was just going to steal a thousand dollars 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.220 when he breaks in and takes the money. But he's 00:09:47.220 --> 00:09:49.580 actually taking the money to set up Winston. 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:51.919 I don't know that he knew that it was like marked 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.620 for Winston's money. Did he? Well, he knew the 00:09:55.620 --> 00:09:59.100 money. He marks it himself. Well, Winston gives 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:01.440 him money. He knows that the money is marked. 00:10:01.580 --> 00:10:03.399 Yeah, he takes the bribe from Winston. So he 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.700 just marks it in the same spot that Winston's 00:10:05.700 --> 00:10:07.820 bills were marked. OK, that's pretty fucking 00:10:07.820 --> 00:10:11.000 clever. Now, whether he knows that as Silvermane 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.019 gives up later that he marks everybody's bills 00:10:14.019 --> 00:10:16.960 differently. Right. Like that, he wouldn't have 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.519 known. But he did know that the bills were marked. 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.509 He saw how they were marked with. Just like a 00:10:22.509 --> 00:10:25.190 little point of ink on it. I thought that was 00:10:25.190 --> 00:10:27.450 so clever. Just the fact that, yeah, he Winston 00:10:27.450 --> 00:10:32.190 comes up to him. He says he like gets Winston 00:10:32.190 --> 00:10:34.509 to bribe him so he could check the money, sees 00:10:34.509 --> 00:10:36.850 that it's marked, goes and steals money, checks 00:10:36.850 --> 00:10:38.769 that the bills aren't marked and then marks them 00:10:38.769 --> 00:10:41.309 in the way that Winston would. So if he later 00:10:41.309 --> 00:10:43.470 gets caught, he could say that, you know, Winston 00:10:43.470 --> 00:10:46.809 was the rat, which is what happens. Yeah. By 00:10:46.809 --> 00:10:49.529 the way, again, this is episode two of our four 00:10:49.529 --> 00:10:51.980 episode. there's eight episodes for spotting 00:10:51.980 --> 00:10:55.600 war yes yeah so in our four episode arc uh full 00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:00.080 spoilers because we don't yeah right good call 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.279 yeah i mean if you're coming into episode two 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.159 talking about three and four and you didn't listen 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.039 to episode one talking about one and two where 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.000 we disclose that we're gonna yeah it's your own 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.539 fault like that's weird i mean it might be someone's 00:11:11.539 --> 00:11:14.220 first episode you never know that'd be so weird 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:18.399 but if so welcome yeah thanks for listening yeah 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.840 my name is nipples Here with my co -host, Chon. 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:35.580 Did you say Chon? Yes. We've been doing this 00:11:35.580 --> 00:11:40.059 too long. I know. So I think this episode sort 00:11:40.059 --> 00:11:42.139 of it plays up a little bit more about the like 00:11:42.139 --> 00:11:44.860 the interrelationships that are going on with 00:11:44.860 --> 00:11:47.139 this. Like Cat Hardy wants to kill Silvermane 00:11:47.139 --> 00:11:50.429 because he owns the club and. basically controls 00:11:50.429 --> 00:11:53.490 her life right it's her owns her yeah she whatever 00:11:53.490 --> 00:11:56.370 he has on her there's like a scene where she's 00:11:56.370 --> 00:11:58.350 putting on a dress and she's like i don't even 00:11:58.350 --> 00:12:00.029 know if i like it basically is what she's saying 00:12:00.029 --> 00:12:02.129 he's like great box it up you know it's time 00:12:02.129 --> 00:12:05.190 to go you know and he's her doll he's her playtime 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:08.470 exactly winston really nails it with the uh seems 00:12:08.470 --> 00:12:10.690 like there's better things that we could be doing 00:12:10.690 --> 00:12:12.529 with our time than playing dress up with dolls 00:12:12.529 --> 00:12:15.500 yeah i don't like that guy's face at all but 00:12:15.500 --> 00:12:17.740 i do like some of his lines yeah his character 00:12:17.740 --> 00:12:20.720 is pretty good pretty good so for for henchmen 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.879 not bad upper tier henchmen yeah not bad yeah 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.399 who's your favorite who's your favorite henchman 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.980 in just media oh like all -time henchman all 00:12:30.980 --> 00:12:34.960 -time goon all -time like who is it i don't mind 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.120 oh man are we gonna have the same one i hope 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.330 we have the same one Well, I mean, it's a real 00:12:41.330 --> 00:12:43.429 tough one. Well, I can't remember his number 00:12:43.429 --> 00:12:47.889 from Venture Brothers. Venture Brothers. He's 00:12:47.889 --> 00:12:51.090 a good one, but I don't know. It might be, boy, 00:12:51.169 --> 00:12:54.909 Beastman's a really good one from He -Man. Yeah. 00:12:55.169 --> 00:13:00.049 That's a good Benjamin. And Starscream. Starscream's 00:13:00.049 --> 00:13:02.389 a great one. You're all wrong, whatever you say, 00:13:02.549 --> 00:13:04.669 because I'm going to tell you it is. It's Bob. 00:13:04.850 --> 00:13:09.309 It's Bob from Batman 89. No lines, just. joker's 00:13:09.309 --> 00:13:12.009 right hand man bob's pretty good oh yeah i mean 00:13:12.009 --> 00:13:15.769 bob like hydra bob's pretty good too oh yeah 00:13:15.769 --> 00:13:18.909 fucking batman 89 uh there was a bob action figure 00:13:18.909 --> 00:13:20.789 he had a little hat i had it it was great hell 00:13:20.789 --> 00:13:26.549 yeah yeah great i miss the i miss the era of 00:13:26.549 --> 00:13:30.389 just like tie -in action figures uh toyetic shit 00:13:30.389 --> 00:13:34.710 so good yeah so uh winston pretty decent henchman 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.480 I forgot where we were in all this. Well, so 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.679 then the whole episode is kind of about these 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.759 these interpersonal relationships. So like Flint 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.480 Marco and Kat Hardy are like kind of a thing. 00:13:45.620 --> 00:13:47.620 Yeah. I mean, they definitely have like a sexual 00:13:47.620 --> 00:13:50.620 vibe. Yeah. And maybe they're in love with each 00:13:50.620 --> 00:13:53.879 other. But like like she was ready to run away 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:55.419 with him. But that could have also just been 00:13:55.419 --> 00:13:58.639 because she was ready to run away. And yeah, 00:13:58.740 --> 00:14:00.980 I couldn't quite get the vibe if she was playing 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:05.379 sexuality. on him in that way or if it was like 00:14:05.379 --> 00:14:07.659 oh i actually really like this guy i think cat 00:14:07.659 --> 00:14:09.820 is manipulative enough are we doing this are 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:11.460 we doing this chronologically are we talking 00:14:11.460 --> 00:14:13.659 just episode three right now or yeah yeah yeah 00:14:13.659 --> 00:14:17.000 discuss four as well i mean we'll get into it 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:18.980 too but i because i think all these all these 00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:22.360 things that play out in three are for setting 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.940 up stuff in four the thing i want to talk about 00:14:24.940 --> 00:14:27.000 is very specific to episode four so okay yeah 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.320 we'll get to that we'll loop back to cat and 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.220 relationships then uh but yeah so she tried to 00:14:32.220 --> 00:14:35.100 get flint to like run away with her which leads 00:14:35.100 --> 00:14:38.980 to her being at penn station but he doesn't show 00:14:38.980 --> 00:14:43.480 yeah flint has an episode and he's like i'm dangerous 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.379 and he like runs away i'm too sandy all these 00:14:47.129 --> 00:14:48.870 we haven't really addressed all these powered 00:14:48.870 --> 00:14:51.830 people. They seem to have like a half life where 00:14:51.830 --> 00:14:54.230 like the powers are starting to like take over 00:14:54.230 --> 00:14:57.629 and it's, it's, uh, probably going to kill them. 00:14:57.669 --> 00:15:01.049 Yeah. So it looks worse now. Yes. More trouble 00:15:01.049 --> 00:15:04.690 bumps, like putting the power away. Yeah, basically. 00:15:05.570 --> 00:15:09.190 So, uh, but cat, like, uh, when she's running 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:13.649 away, when Ben like confronts her, um, she gives 00:15:13.649 --> 00:15:16.669 this great speech about how like you know silvermane 00:15:16.669 --> 00:15:21.110 just wants to like keep her um and she's just 00:15:21.110 --> 00:15:22.929 ultimately tired of just men making decisions 00:15:22.929 --> 00:15:25.389 for like marco won't be with her because like 00:15:25.389 --> 00:15:29.110 you know he's afraid she'll get hurt and she's 00:15:29.110 --> 00:15:30.710 just like i just want to make my own decision 00:15:30.710 --> 00:15:34.330 i'm gonna leave town and do that of course winston 00:15:34.330 --> 00:15:40.330 tracked ben down and like caught them both yeah 00:15:40.330 --> 00:15:44.629 winston had been tailing ben and ben led him 00:15:44.629 --> 00:15:48.769 to at penn station yeah so they're now both hemmed 00:15:48.769 --> 00:15:54.370 up with addison's wife oh yeah right so climax 00:15:54.370 --> 00:15:58.129 of this episode is the like big who's the rat 00:15:58.129 --> 00:16:01.250 yeah situation there's a shallow grave already 00:16:01.250 --> 00:16:05.830 dug yeah out in the out in the woods uh winston 00:16:05.830 --> 00:16:09.370 takes uh cat and ben and still remains there 00:16:09.370 --> 00:16:12.350 and he he has some questions and It comes down 00:16:12.350 --> 00:16:15.409 to like, oh, who's the rat? And Nick Cage is 00:16:15.409 --> 00:16:17.009 like, well, I don't have all the information 00:16:17.009 --> 00:16:23.149 yet. See? And then Winston's all like, I got 00:16:23.149 --> 00:16:26.649 the answers and here's this. And it just kind 00:16:26.649 --> 00:16:29.710 of alludes back to a speech that Ben gave to 00:16:29.710 --> 00:16:32.149 Silvermane about people who claim to have all 00:16:32.149 --> 00:16:36.029 the right answers. And you see it kind of click 00:16:36.029 --> 00:16:38.490 with Silvermane. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, 00:16:38.509 --> 00:16:42.620 well, let's see that money. because ben paid 00:16:42.620 --> 00:16:46.460 addison with the marked bills yeah winston shook 00:16:46.460 --> 00:16:48.840 down addison took the money and used that as 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:53.340 proof that ben and cat were bribing other people 00:16:53.340 --> 00:16:56.720 but all the money said was that was money that 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.500 should have been paid to winston so winston gets 00:16:59.500 --> 00:17:03.500 shot yep plugged right in the gut and then we 00:17:03.500 --> 00:17:06.259 get like falls directly into the grave tight 00:17:06.259 --> 00:17:09.319 get a little cliffy get a cliffy with the gun 00:17:10.089 --> 00:17:13.950 we get we get the line read of like uh silvermane 00:17:13.950 --> 00:17:16.450 telling ben to like dig another hole and then 00:17:16.450 --> 00:17:20.589 we see we see we see the shot happened hard cut 00:17:20.589 --> 00:17:23.990 to cat and ben in the club the next night so 00:17:23.990 --> 00:17:27.130 clearly neither one of them is dead uh cut into 00:17:27.130 --> 00:17:29.430 episode four when this happens and then we cut 00:17:29.430 --> 00:17:32.470 back to the night before and nameless faceless 00:17:32.470 --> 00:17:35.789 goon who was winston's like sidekick is the one 00:17:35.789 --> 00:17:39.670 who got shot so Lazy transition there. Lazy. 00:17:40.529 --> 00:17:46.549 Yeah, I agree. I mean, it feels like what you 00:17:46.549 --> 00:17:49.049 would do for a TV cliffhanger. You know, it's 00:17:49.049 --> 00:17:51.910 fine. Maybe it would have worked if this was 00:17:51.910 --> 00:17:54.589 released weekly, but it's not. That is true. 00:17:54.710 --> 00:17:56.930 I mean, when you can easily just roll in 30 or, 00:17:56.990 --> 00:17:58.950 you know, 20 seconds after the episode ends. 00:17:59.089 --> 00:18:01.910 Yeah, you don't have to wait a week. Right. Who 00:18:01.910 --> 00:18:05.230 was it? Did they shoot Kat? Nope. How is Ben 00:18:05.230 --> 00:18:08.529 going to get out? Yeah. Does this is the spider 00:18:08.529 --> 00:18:11.069 power? I mean, but then we never see Addison's 00:18:11.069 --> 00:18:12.849 wife again. So could it just been her and we'd 00:18:12.849 --> 00:18:15.769 actually known her name? Yeah. Well, her name 00:18:15.769 --> 00:18:18.430 is Vera, but it was Vera. But it was also just 00:18:18.430 --> 00:18:21.910 weird that it was just the other goon who was 00:18:21.910 --> 00:18:24.829 there. Yeah. Yeah. Whose name apparently was 00:18:24.829 --> 00:18:30.250 Gio. There you go. Who knew? Yeah. Thanks, Internet. 00:18:31.230 --> 00:18:34.049 Yeah. Was episode three where he shows up really 00:18:34.049 --> 00:18:36.420 drunk to the office? Or was that episode four? 00:18:37.980 --> 00:18:39.660 Let's see. No, that's episode four because that's 00:18:39.660 --> 00:18:42.180 the start of four. Oh, okay. The start of four 00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:45.279 is when Silvermane, because they solved it, they 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.579 figured out who the rat was. So they have a night 00:18:47.579 --> 00:18:49.640 of drinking. Yeah, and Silvermane can fucking 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:53.500 put one on. Dude. when it's so back in episode 00:18:53.500 --> 00:18:56.420 three when silvermane hires him and cage pours 00:18:56.420 --> 00:18:59.940 him that whiskey every time gleason takes a drink 00:18:59.940 --> 00:19:04.460 of it his face is just so good it's absolutely 00:19:04.460 --> 00:19:08.460 like garbage whiskey he's just like yes when 00:19:08.460 --> 00:19:10.539 he finally pours him like a good one yeah it's 00:19:10.539 --> 00:19:16.140 like that's what a whiskey is yeah yeah i'm drinking 00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:18.099 some yellow spot i feel like the best kind of 00:19:18.099 --> 00:19:19.839 villains are the ones that you're like i like 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:21.880 you even though i know you're a like murderous 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.359 piece of shit yeah you know like i want to fucking 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.759 hang out with silvermane yeah your character 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:31.259 is not so far removed from my reality that i 00:19:31.259 --> 00:19:35.980 can't get behind what's happening uh yeah i i 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:39.220 like that and then yes he gets to come back to 00:19:39.220 --> 00:19:44.670 the office just housed and you get Just the silhouette 00:19:44.670 --> 00:19:47.289 of him through his window, like dropping things, 00:19:47.430 --> 00:19:51.349 trying to drop in the keys like 14 times. And 00:19:51.349 --> 00:19:53.549 then when. Yeah. And then when Robbie's leaving 00:19:53.549 --> 00:19:56.589 the office, like drops his coat, drops his hands 00:19:56.589 --> 00:20:01.609 like, who am I? That's a good burn. Yeah. I love 00:20:01.609 --> 00:20:04.369 the line. He's like, I need scrambled eggs and 00:20:04.369 --> 00:20:11.109 sausages and a biscuit. Yeah. We also get Robbie 00:20:11.109 --> 00:20:16.690 going to. Harlem to try and track down um Lonnie 00:20:16.690 --> 00:20:20.809 boy Lonnie um and then at the end I think it's 00:20:20.809 --> 00:20:24.210 the end of episode three we get the raid on the 00:20:24.210 --> 00:20:29.210 Hooverville and uh Marco and Lonnie like beat 00:20:29.210 --> 00:20:31.789 up some cops and Robbie gets the photos yeah 00:20:31.789 --> 00:20:34.150 you're you're right because that's when that's 00:20:34.150 --> 00:20:35.990 when his article comes out and it's like yeah 00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:40.000 you know monsters are among us or whatever menace 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.740 like monsters menace manhattan or something yeah 00:20:42.740 --> 00:20:44.759 i mean you got to go with the alliteration right 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.339 yeah and that's what we find out like and he's 00:20:47.339 --> 00:20:49.779 trying to get his like desk job back and we we 00:20:49.779 --> 00:20:52.420 learned that at the height of robbie's career 00:20:52.420 --> 00:20:54.039 it's because he was writing about the spider 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:56.920 because he had the inside scoop and since the 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.059 spider's been mia for five years robbie's career 00:21:00.059 --> 00:21:04.950 has tanked yeah yeah because robbie's been the 00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:08.089 one who's been most adamant that the spider should 00:21:08.089 --> 00:21:10.789 come back and you know maybe it's for some selfish 00:21:10.789 --> 00:21:12.609 reasons because robbie's life ain't great right 00:21:12.609 --> 00:21:16.730 now sure so yeah he he encounters lani bumpy 00:21:16.730 --> 00:21:21.750 boy tombstone um by following a unhoused guy 00:21:21.750 --> 00:21:23.930 who has like a special knock to hand off some 00:21:23.930 --> 00:21:28.609 food yep at this old theater and then convinces 00:21:28.609 --> 00:21:31.809 him that he's like on the right side of it then 00:21:31.809 --> 00:21:37.039 they get him back to uh cage's office right yeah 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.539 and they start playing cards with him and trying 00:21:38.539 --> 00:21:40.599 to get some more information out of him but earlier 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.640 in the episode there's this whole scene where 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.180 um cat and ben are hanging out in this old theater 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:50.440 which has also been a spot where flint marco 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:54.519 has like hid hidden himself for a while and they're 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:56.119 having kind of like an intimate conversation 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.819 we start to get more of that like relationship 00:21:58.819 --> 00:22:01.990 crisscross stuff you know where it's like Are 00:22:01.990 --> 00:22:04.549 they into each other? You know, is she playing 00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:07.950 him? Is he actually attracted to her? And Flint 00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:11.670 sees the whole thing, which drives him to go 00:22:11.670 --> 00:22:13.950 back to Silvermane. He sees the whole thing. 00:22:13.970 --> 00:22:17.450 And also Kat admits that she, you know, she finally 00:22:17.450 --> 00:22:19.569 admits that she's the one who is trying to get 00:22:19.569 --> 00:22:20.990 Silvermane killed because she's trying to get 00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:24.490 her own freedom as well. Right. So she is actually 00:22:24.490 --> 00:22:26.769 the traitor, which, you know, Marco also finds 00:22:26.769 --> 00:22:29.809 out. Yeah. And he's a super loyal guy. That's 00:22:29.809 --> 00:22:33.079 like. From episode one, they've hammered that 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.400 one. He's loyal, ultra loyal. So yeah, he goes 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.680 back to Silvermane. He's all sandy. Clearly is 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.680 like losing control of it more and more. And 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.640 Kat is hiding out at Ben's. Because she doesn't 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.900 want to be alone. And that's when she starts 00:22:50.900 --> 00:22:54.339 kind of putting the moves on him. And this is 00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:55.619 what I was alluding to earlier. I liked that 00:22:55.619 --> 00:22:58.880 scene too. he's like she's like can i have a 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.880 drink he's like yeah i've got two glasses but 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.259 one of them's dirty i guess i'll drink out of 00:23:03.259 --> 00:23:05.759 that one i like how he calls it like uh what 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.119 is it like a used glass yeah one of them is used 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.500 yeah i'll use i'll drink from that one well because 00:23:11.500 --> 00:23:12.900 he says he only has one glass then he looks and 00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:14.380 he says well i have another glass but it's used 00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:18.259 yeah it's a used pickle but this is what i was 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:22.240 alluding to earlier is like i buy cat and ben's 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:25.759 like romance a little more because i assume she's 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:27.460 fucking with him like she's the femme fatale 00:23:27.460 --> 00:23:29.779 like she's gonna double cross him in the end 00:23:29.779 --> 00:23:34.119 so yeah like i don't need to buy that as a legitimate 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.660 romantic like entanglement because she's just 00:23:37.660 --> 00:23:39.880 trying to get something out of him yeah it feels 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.039 like she's manipulating yeah you know he's a 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.859 mark right he's he's like a lonely guy who feels 00:23:45.859 --> 00:23:48.960 bad because he was the cause of his fiance's 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:53.319 death yeah directly or indirectly you know do 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.680 like when like he she asked him like why he's 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.940 helping her why he's like doing all this and 00:23:58.940 --> 00:24:02.599 he like it says talks about you know um what 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:06.759 had happened we do get a cut of the car drowning 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:11.420 scene but replace that as the central focus of 00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.759 that nice nice little touch i just also am so 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.900 enamored with the backlit spider -man like underwater 00:24:17.900 --> 00:24:22.279 like reaching I love that. I like his glowy eyes. 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:25.480 I was just going to say, when he breaks into 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:29.779 Silvermane's place, he always gets a of the eyes 00:24:29.779 --> 00:24:32.599 lighting up. Yeah, it's cool. And the shots where 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.640 it's just the eyes in the shadows and you don't 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:40.900 see any of the silhouette. Or when Silvermane 00:24:40.900 --> 00:24:43.220 makes a noise or whatever and he shuts them off 00:24:43.220 --> 00:24:46.099 and then they just turn on elsewhere in a shadow. 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.019 Yeah, it's cool. On a ceiling or something. It's 00:24:49.019 --> 00:24:51.940 really well done. OK, so this is this is going 00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:53.900 to be one of those just weird. It's a me thing 00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:58.779 that bothers me. It's a me. Sean. Sean. This 00:24:58.779 --> 00:25:00.700 is going to be one of those weird like just I 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:03.039 know continuity wise it works, but costuming 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:07.059 I I don't think anyone would notice or think 00:25:07.059 --> 00:25:10.079 too much about it. I hate the fact that they 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.720 didn't just like give him a slightly bigger hat 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:14.839 for when he has the mask on because the hat sits 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:19.410 so weird on the mask. it like the hat fits nick 00:25:19.410 --> 00:25:21.849 cage's head the hat does not fit nick cage's 00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:24.630 head with like a wool mask over it you gotta 00:25:24.630 --> 00:25:26.910 think about going to a haberdasher and being 00:25:26.910 --> 00:25:29.390 like okay i understand that my head is this big 00:25:29.390 --> 00:25:31.269 because you just measured it but i need a hat 00:25:31.269 --> 00:25:35.170 that's like a lot bigger but also it's just like 00:25:35.170 --> 00:25:38.789 it's for a friend yeah if just costuming this 00:25:38.789 --> 00:25:42.109 show if they just got a hat that fit the mask 00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:44.950 i don't think anyone would pay that much attention 00:25:44.950 --> 00:25:46.900 to it no one would care No, you wouldn't think 00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:49.980 about it twice. Again, this is just because I'm 00:25:49.980 --> 00:25:52.059 an artist, because I draw shit. I'm just like, 00:25:52.099 --> 00:25:54.440 I want that to just fit better. And it annoys 00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.299 me that it's just precariously just Velcro to 00:25:57.299 --> 00:26:03.000 this to this mask. Yeah, that's fair. So let's 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.579 see. There's another conflict. There's the mayor. 00:26:06.099 --> 00:26:08.400 There's that whole antic. So the mayor is trying 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.039 to win people back over to his side because it's 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.339 a reelection. But nobody likes him because he 00:26:12.339 --> 00:26:15.210 sucks. silver main got him elected initially 00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:19.450 um but he's outstayed his use and silver main's 00:26:19.450 --> 00:26:22.650 got a new pony in the stable and the mayor's 00:26:22.650 --> 00:26:25.529 like nope i'm gonna like the mayor's making a 00:26:25.529 --> 00:26:28.089 power play uh silver main's waiting for the chief 00:26:28.089 --> 00:26:30.750 of police to like show up for his like monthly 00:26:30.750 --> 00:26:33.829 like tide tithe and doesn't show up because he's 00:26:33.829 --> 00:26:36.690 out with the mayor and uh silver main comes in 00:26:36.690 --> 00:26:39.630 like kind of blows up their spot and tries to 00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:43.069 like throw his muscle around I do like when he 00:26:43.069 --> 00:26:45.390 shows up at the mayor's table and the mayor like 00:26:45.390 --> 00:26:46.990 tells his wife to like go powder her nose and 00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:49.829 she's just like, get fucked. I know. I love that. 00:26:51.789 --> 00:26:54.730 Yeah. So they have some words and then Tombstone 00:26:54.730 --> 00:26:57.910 breaks the table. Sandman, Sandy, Sandy, Mandy. 00:26:58.930 --> 00:27:02.309 I love when I love Silvermane. I love Silvermane 00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:04.549 and the mayor bickering like an old married couple 00:27:04.549 --> 00:27:07.630 and just the awkward like police chief just be 00:27:07.630 --> 00:27:11.170 like, I'm going to go. It's like, no, you stay 00:27:11.170 --> 00:27:16.690 right down. yeah so it's in these conversations 00:27:16.690 --> 00:27:21.210 this episode that we get uh the connection that 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:25.589 like the mayor tipped off uh the police chief 00:27:25.589 --> 00:27:28.470 to go do that and like told him to go do the 00:27:28.470 --> 00:27:32.750 raid so it was like the mayor trying to put silvermane 00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:36.890 down on the the whiskey smuggling right um well 00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:38.569 because the mayor thinks he'll be able to win 00:27:38.569 --> 00:27:41.089 re -election on his own by overturning prohibition 00:27:41.089 --> 00:27:44.130 and silvermane makes most of his money on booze 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:48.130 booze which is again a great like just narrative 00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:49.930 thread throughout all of this like yeah it's 00:27:49.930 --> 00:27:52.150 good it's really solid tightly written show i 00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:55.589 really appreciate it yeah so then ben and cat 00:27:55.589 --> 00:27:57.309 are hanging out at the apartment getting horny 00:27:57.309 --> 00:28:00.210 with each other and then on the radio they hear 00:28:00.210 --> 00:28:03.490 an announcement that there's a super doing some 00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:06.970 shit down in the diamond district yep so cat 00:28:06.970 --> 00:28:11.279 immediately assumes it's flint and ben pretends 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:12.920 like he doesn't give a shit so she's like you 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.880 are a fucking coward yeah and leaves and then 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.460 he instantly gets into action it's like the second 00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:22.380 his door closes he's like yeah spiders out and 00:28:22.380 --> 00:28:26.940 then it's megawatt yeah a big big chubby guy 00:28:26.940 --> 00:28:30.599 yeah okay i i absolutely love this version of 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.519 electro um because one big chubby guy but also 00:28:34.029 --> 00:28:36.390 this is one of the one of the few characters 00:28:36.390 --> 00:28:38.869 actors like really understood the assignment 00:28:38.869 --> 00:28:43.150 oh yeah i agree this guy goes big he he feels 00:28:43.150 --> 00:28:47.670 like he is from the 30s he is a caricature it's 00:28:47.670 --> 00:28:52.369 great i like we get our first like legit like 00:28:52.369 --> 00:28:55.730 super powered fight um we get to see the spider 00:28:55.730 --> 00:28:59.410 in action for an extended scene it's a lot of 00:28:59.410 --> 00:29:02.900 fun yeah he's slow he's he's out of practice 00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:05.920 this show makes me think of nick did you ever 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.799 read spider -man reign spider -man reign uh no 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.299 it is like what what would be like a 60 year 00:29:12.299 --> 00:29:15.019 old peter parker there's a lot of that in this 00:29:15.019 --> 00:29:18.759 which i'm really appreciating just that you know 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.240 i love i love me an old superhero i love me an 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.779 old superhero is just like i got a bad back this 00:29:23.779 --> 00:29:26.599 is a this is another example of where the true 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.720 hue i think actually works a little bit better 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:32.859 the electric powers don't look as good in black 00:29:32.859 --> 00:29:36.099 and white as far as i could say yeah i i enjoyed 00:29:36.099 --> 00:29:37.880 it in black and white because i like the contrast 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.859 of it uh i think that's one of the things about 00:29:40.859 --> 00:29:43.619 the black and white that uh i like about the 00:29:43.619 --> 00:29:46.700 effects like with the weapon the the electricity 00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:50.559 and everything it just pops out more and it makes 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.160 the style more stylized the best shot is when 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.079 he puts his finger in the water and it shoots 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.400 that yeah current across that's that's pretty 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.019 tight but some of the ones where it's like arcing 00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:03.400 up his body look a little bit better okay yeah 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.579 i haven't watched these ones in color yeah so 00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:07.519 i mean you i don't think you need to i think 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.039 that it really truly does look best in black 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.640 and white but those are the times where i'm like 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.980 oh okay i can't see why that's a benefit so yeah 00:30:14.980 --> 00:30:17.819 he he drains that guy's battery and he goes down 00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:20.750 hard pretty pretty well done too i like the way 00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:23.950 he works it out yeah and we got a proper like 00:30:23.950 --> 00:30:26.589 spider -man you know out thinking a stronger 00:30:26.589 --> 00:30:28.349 opponent he's just like exactly you know this 00:30:28.349 --> 00:30:30.809 person needs to charge up to fight if i just 00:30:30.809 --> 00:30:33.569 like egg them on and like have them waste energy 00:30:33.569 --> 00:30:36.130 i can take him out in the end hits him with a 00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:41.670 big metal sign love that um cat like cat and 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:46.410 uh the spider share share a glance uh during 00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:49.130 the fight yeah and the mayor comes over right 00:30:49.130 --> 00:30:50.910 afterwards and is like we did it together we're 00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:54.029 a team yeah not a team not a team and robbie's 00:30:54.029 --> 00:30:57.109 just there and like i'm gonna get front page 00:30:57.109 --> 00:31:03.029 and ben's like no no god damn it robbie don't 00:31:03.029 --> 00:31:07.130 do it robbie and then we get ben getting back 00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:09.869 home and this is where we see a lot of the kind 00:31:09.869 --> 00:31:13.250 of silent movie like acting of nick cage where 00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:15.970 he's like i guess trying to stretch out after 00:31:15.970 --> 00:31:18.950 like having a row and we get just the most like 00:31:18.950 --> 00:31:26.150 awkward flailing body cracking scene i've ever 00:31:26.150 --> 00:31:29.930 seen it's so good yeah it's so good trying to 00:31:29.930 --> 00:31:32.650 work out i can't even like somewhere you just 00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:36.150 have to see it it's just fucking funny it's like 00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:38.289 every little bit of him doing it he's doing it 00:31:38.289 --> 00:31:40.130 with his legs he's doing it with his whole body 00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:42.940 it's just fucking funny it was a it was good 00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:46.000 during the uh electro fight though is when we 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:50.079 get the return of the couple that he had to break 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.359 into their apartment and like the husband just 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.380 like i think he's too old i don't i don't think 00:31:54.380 --> 00:31:56.039 he's got it anymore and the wife's like he still 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.000 got it and then as soon as the fight's over the 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.640 husband's like i told you he still got it yeah 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.960 just gives him that withering look yeah um it's 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:10.779 just classic 1930s just man superiority but like 00:32:10.779 --> 00:32:14.380 cat like shows up back at uh ben's apartment 00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:18.019 and like alluding to knowing something and ben's 00:32:18.019 --> 00:32:22.920 like trying to play coy but poorly and i absolutely 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.539 love this scene where she pulls the uh it's it's 00:32:26.539 --> 00:32:30.660 well done 1970s fucking uh gwen stacy lowis lane 00:32:30.660 --> 00:32:33.039 where she's just like i'm gonna just throw myself 00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.640 off a building and see what happens and uh he 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.730 he he webs her up yeah that was pretty cool i 00:32:40.730 --> 00:32:45.170 did like that i do when she's getting like like 00:32:45.170 --> 00:32:47.509 brought back up and her like arms are just hanging 00:32:47.509 --> 00:32:50.210 her head's hung back it's like her legs are webbed 00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:54.569 up and her tits are webbed up yeah yeah i knew 00:32:54.569 --> 00:32:57.509 it wasn't gonna happen but i was uh part of me 00:32:57.509 --> 00:33:00.069 was like is is this gonna be a gwen stacy is 00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:02.569 he gonna webber and then just snap her back and 00:33:02.569 --> 00:33:05.589 haul her corpse back up it's like no witnesses 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:11.119 terrible yeah but no i and you know that and 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.359 and it ends with them like awkward old man kiss 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.019 yeah when i talked in the last uh part where 00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:19.839 i was talking about how just like we need to 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:24.059 stop like matching like an elderly nick cage 00:33:24.059 --> 00:33:26.279 up with younger women this is the one situation 00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.839 where i'm like it works because she's clearly 00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.359 using him like yeah it should have been like 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.359 dream scenario where he then just farts and then 00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.819 comes in his pants yeah there's webs everywhere 00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:43.259 yeah oh my god his web shooters are all over 00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:47.059 not just wrist so i mean that's the end of the 00:33:47.059 --> 00:33:49.079 episode it's a good way to go out on it um i 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:50.460 think the only thing that we didn't touch on 00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:54.519 is uh so there's a bumpy boy lonnie tombstone 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.180 he's he's talking to janet and robbie and he 00:33:58.180 --> 00:33:59.839 reveals at some point he says oh we probably 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.109 need to talk to doc faber about that so there's 00:34:03.109 --> 00:34:05.569 obviously like some other layer that they're 00:34:05.569 --> 00:34:08.010 going to reveal in the next episode or so that 00:34:08.010 --> 00:34:09.769 we have not watched and did you guys watch more 00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:12.949 yet i've not watched more yet um so yeah i'm 00:34:12.949 --> 00:34:14.530 looking forward to figuring out you know some 00:34:14.530 --> 00:34:16.929 more of the mysteries there but i think it's 00:34:16.929 --> 00:34:18.670 cool like this has done a good job of putting 00:34:18.670 --> 00:34:21.750 multiple different layers on top of each other 00:34:21.750 --> 00:34:24.889 that are all tied together of course but I think 00:34:24.889 --> 00:34:27.550 the only mystery like hanging mystery right now, 00:34:27.610 --> 00:34:30.250 like big thing that I think we're going to really 00:34:30.250 --> 00:34:33.710 need to explore more is I think Ben was the one 00:34:33.710 --> 00:34:35.090 who pointed out like they wouldn't have been 00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:37.150 like all those guys wouldn't have been together 00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:39.369 in a company because they would have been segregated. 00:34:39.849 --> 00:34:42.170 And I think Janet mentioned something like when 00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:44.630 he says they would have was a POW camp. Like 00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:47.750 I think Janet makes some mention to like if it 00:34:47.750 --> 00:34:49.690 was like the same that he was in or like that 00:34:49.690 --> 00:34:52.389 he'd been in one as well. So clearly there was. 00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.800 nazi experimentation or that's definitely what 00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.699 was sort of implied so far yeah so they i don't 00:34:59.699 --> 00:35:01.639 think they said anything about ben reilly being 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.179 in a pw camp that came from robbie uh when they 00:35:05.179 --> 00:35:09.579 were playing cards robbie said that he was his 00:35:09.579 --> 00:35:13.280 father was yeah his father that's right um but 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:18.539 yeah janet mentioned that uh cage was also like 00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:22.960 he served and he was in germany but uh not yeah 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:26.619 okay not up here we've also seen the trailer 00:35:26.619 --> 00:35:29.980 where we see like weird stuff so i might be complaining 00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:31.719 there's some body horror shit that i think we're 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.139 getting into pretty soon yeah yeah i mean it's 00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:36.719 right there in the intro yeah so with the theme 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.500 song yeah by kirby kirby that was another way 00:35:40.500 --> 00:35:42.460 when i started watching uh the first episode 00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:46.219 again or in true hue as soon as we got to the 00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:47.739 opening credits and they were in black and white 00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:49.179 that was just like this is how it's meant to 00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:52.889 be watched yeah yeah i mean like it is it's meant 00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:55.309 to be black and white but it's provided in color 00:35:55.309 --> 00:35:58.230 for people who need that i don't see color though 00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:05.929 like we also i'm woke um we also missed one of 00:36:05.929 --> 00:36:10.849 my favorite scenes uh where um it's the it's 00:36:10.849 --> 00:36:13.449 the scene where uh ben goes to break into silverman's 00:36:13.449 --> 00:36:16.769 office but he knows he's being tailed uh so he 00:36:16.769 --> 00:36:20.539 has the kid on an apple box wearing his hat and 00:36:20.539 --> 00:36:23.980 his jacket just, like, stumbling around with, 00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:26.619 like, his... You know that kid got drunk. Yeah. 00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.039 With a tumbler of whiskey. Pretending to be Ben, 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.860 doing the old Home Alone, like, silhouette window. 00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:38.579 He hasn't left his place all night. Okay. This 00:36:38.579 --> 00:36:40.820 is one of the few times we have good kid. I know. 00:36:40.900 --> 00:36:43.619 I agree. Yeah, he's a good kid. So at this point, 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.480 you guys feel gripped? Yeah. You're into it? 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:48.719 Yeah, I'm into it. I like this a lot. I do, too. 00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:50.650 when we get to the end of this series i want 00:36:50.650 --> 00:36:52.170 to have a conversation a longer conversation 00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:55.869 about like it but i'm just i do worry at times 00:36:55.869 --> 00:36:58.429 doing like something something like this that 00:36:58.429 --> 00:37:01.170 i've ruined myself to like be able to actually 00:37:01.170 --> 00:37:03.730 enjoy stuff like this because i'm just like i've 00:37:03.730 --> 00:37:06.010 watched so much nick cage would i enjoy this 00:37:06.010 --> 00:37:10.769 more if i if i haven't maybe yeah if it's weird 00:37:10.769 --> 00:37:14.510 to think like would i like this if i wasn't in 00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:16.809 like the full grips of a nicholas cage stockholm 00:37:16.809 --> 00:37:20.309 syndrome like what is my life like it's a fair 00:37:20.309 --> 00:37:22.210 question i think we should unpack that at the 00:37:22.210 --> 00:37:25.829 end but yeah that was what i was getting to is 00:37:25.829 --> 00:37:27.789 like i want to have we'll have to pay a therapist 00:37:27.789 --> 00:37:30.170 to flex at us while we consider this exactly 00:37:30.170 --> 00:37:33.050 i i can you know i can see if kirby wants to 00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:37.289 come on yeah the only guest we actually have 00:37:37.289 --> 00:37:44.070 to pay exactly normally our guests pay us Yeah, 00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:46.630 I think that's good. I think we'll be back, you 00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:49.829 know, to review the next two episodes and then 00:37:49.829 --> 00:37:51.809 we'll finish it all off. And then back to our 00:37:51.809 --> 00:37:54.489 regularly scheduled crap. Yeah, back to regular 00:37:54.489 --> 00:37:56.590 schedule after that where we'll have Daryl on. 00:37:56.710 --> 00:37:59.909 Yeah. Let's talk about beef. Beef? Beef? You 00:37:59.909 --> 00:38:04.539 think I have beef? Thank you all for listening. 00:38:04.699 --> 00:38:07.019 If you are interested in supporting us on Patreon, 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.340 we are at patreon .com slash cage match and special 00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:12.860 thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh, Josie, Matt, 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.380 Adam, Bill, Stuart, and Willow. And to our cage 00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:19.780 dancers, John Freeman, Nathan, and Cameron. And 00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:22.159 lastly, a thanks to Bill Panks for our intro 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.420 music. 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