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Oh God. Oh my God. imagine that rachel's helmet

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would fit your ginormous like no it does not

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it does not go all the way down on my head no

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very much at the very top point of his head but

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it's also not big enough for me to put the headphones

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on underneath yeah it was the bit didn't work

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well enough we were gonna have you yell real

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loud oh hey benjamin franklin gates hello i'm

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so glad we've done this great visual comedy work

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on our podcast. Our audience understands. It's

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been four years and we still don't understand

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how this medium works. I think we're crushing

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it. We could probably start doing video episodes

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because I just barely edit anymore. Throw it

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up as it is. Harder to run with that, but I can

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figure it out. Has it gotten better or because

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you've stopped caring? It can be a little bit

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of both. I would say mostly I care less. Season

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three is different though. Like when we were

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having to do the head to head stuff, it mattered

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more structure, all that kind of thing. There

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was a little, a little more that we had to pay

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attention to. This is a little more free form.

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This is like jazz. I love myself some jazz. That's

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fantastic. So how did you forget that you're

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running a race tomorrow? It's not that I forgot.

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It's a Cinco de Mayo fun run. And tomorrow is

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Tres de Mayo. All right. All right. I'll give

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it to you. Cinco de Mayo. That's actually a fair

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comeback. I'll give them that one. This is what

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I get for, you know, trying to speak in the devil's

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tongue. Oh, Diablo's tongue. Yeah, right. I spent

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all week on that joke. It shows. Didn't watch

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the movie. Yeah, didn't watch the movie. Just

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like Nick. Speaking of things I've wasted my

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time on, welcome back to Cage Magical and a roundabout

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way of meeting Nicolas Cage. I'm Sean, here with

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my co -host. I'm Sean. Here with my co -host.

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I'm Sean. I'm Sean. I'm Seanicus. Yes, we are

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all Sean. Now, everybody say a slur. I'm Sean

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and I approve this message. I'm not doing much

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with it. And, you know, I don't know. At this

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point, I actually have decent credit, so don't

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don't fuck with it. Yeah, we don't want to mess

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with your IMDB either. Of course. Yeah, that's

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pretty important to have that. Yeah, your star

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power is on the rise again. So, Bill. I genuinely

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cannot remember. Have you ever been on the podcast

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before? I have not been on the podcast before.

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I was just talking to Peter. How many nervous

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poops did you have? About three, I believe. So

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it was good. And then took Jarvis on a walk and

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he had two. So we are all empty. It's good. We're

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going to go. Perfect timing. I love that. Yep.

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We're going to have a real like a race to get

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you three appearances on the podcast before everybody

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gets three. I was going to say I was listening

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to last week's show this morning and I was like,

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oh, no, we got number one today, but I have to

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get two more. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be tight.

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I feel like John has I feel like John's had more

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than three. John or Oric have had the most, I

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think. I think it's been John because I think

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John's also was on. He's done like three actual

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episodes and he was on long legs as well. Oh,

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that's right. Yeah. Good old long legs. Yeah.

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I haven't missed an episode and it's definitely

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those two that I've, I've heard the most often

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as guest stars. Yeah. Although Hornback starting

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to stick out too. Yeah. Speaking of long legs,

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spiders. I'll give it to you. That was almost

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one of the better ones I've heard from you. Well

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done. Long legs. Perfect. Speaking of daddies,

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this movie is for all the daddies. We're also

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talking about Into the Spider -Verse. Yes. We've

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got Chris Pine, Fat Spider -Man. Jake Johnson.

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Jake Johnson. Love him. He's great. And Nick

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Cage. And crazy, coked -out Uncle Spider -Man,

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John Mulaney. All the daddy spiders. Ooh, can

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I get my Sean in 60 seconds out of the way? Yes.

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Oh, hey. All right. it's great this movie's still

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awesome go watch it do you want to say anything

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else with your extra time six seconds no i fucking

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i tried to write something for this one i'm like

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no this is a good movie i can't i'm not gonna

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make this funny so just fucking go watch it it's

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still amazing I paid for a minute, Sean, in 60

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seconds. I only got six seconds. Come on now.

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What are you going to give me with that last

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50? You got to say it 10 times now. Perfect.

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Excellent. Oh, this is good. Peter hasn't had

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a reason to cut content in a while. Just keep

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it up. Keep it up. Here we go. Editing. Nailing

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it. Mute entire track. I only have one critique

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about this movie, and that's the fact that it

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sounds like everyone recorded their dialogue

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underwater. The sound mixing on this movie, not

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great. Everything else, perfect. Could that have

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been maybe an artistic choice? They're all wearing

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masks. Yeah, they're wearing masks, plus the

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art is so beautiful in this. maybe it's genuinely

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sounds like it at times where they're just standing

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way too far away from the mics but everyone like

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i've watched this movie like seven times and

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this is the first time i watched it with like

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subtitles and i'm like i never knew they were

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saying half that shit i need this i never i'm

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41 years old i have to have this i just always

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have them on too yeah so i guess i never really

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have paid that much attention to it yeah i never

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caught me as uh being bad everyone's like everyone

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sounds either like extra mumbly or just like

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slightly like removed from like where i feel

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like their voice should be at i don't know it's

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just got a weird sound mix i i think at this

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point we need to stop holding people to our quality

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of audio this audio honey right yeah we we're

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really laying it on thick we're good we nailed

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it boom we're professionals that's true but other

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than that movie is fucking spectacular um it

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is it's a really good movie you're wrong and

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yeah rachel's not like super huge on animation

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and she was sort of watching while doing some

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work next to me and then got sucked in by it

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for sure yeah the animation style of this is

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just so incredible it's so cool it's it's something

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else that's the only like gripe that i i've read

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about this is that the artists got like overworked

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which that's no shit like of course they did

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yeah but you know it it shows it's really good

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it's very very cool I think that might be the

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other critique, then, is it's going to take way

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too long to get part three out because they're

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so... I heard it got delayed a couple times because,

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well, and now with everybody getting fired over

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in Marvel and stuff these days, it's like...

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Well, this is still Sony. This is still Sony,

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so it will be a little different. Okay, good.

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Hey, you're giving me hope. That's good, because

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they left us hanging after the second one. But

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that's not the movie we're talking about. There

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was an interview with Lord and Miller where they

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talked about the third film and why it's taken

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so long. And what they said was, they knew the

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second movie they had too much story for one

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film so like we'll make it two films then they

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finished the second film went into production

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for the third and they're like oh we have a third

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act we don't have a full movie so they pretty

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much needed to like extend out the ending of

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the second movie to be a full movie so they needed

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to find like a story within it to tell a full

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arc Well, give us the story of this one. OK,

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we will talk about the first one, not the second

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one, which embarrassingly enough, I had to ask

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Peter, which one is it for sure? He's like the

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one Nicolas Cage is actually in. He'll be in

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the third one. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, story

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opens. I won't have the right. earth name but

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it opens with a spider -man and that's the chris

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pine spider -man that sean brought up and uh

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the one and only the one and only spider -man

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and talking about how great it is to be spider

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-man kind of goes through some of the history

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of the spider -man what we've seen in the past

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which was was kind of a fun little nod to some

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of the history he has a so -so popsicle Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Golly. I was like, oh, I actually would

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try that Popsicle, though. And a Christmas album.

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Good for him. Yeah. So we start off with that

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world. Spider -Man. Spider -Man. And then it

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shows us Miles Morales starting another week

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or so at this school that he does not want to

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go to. But his dad drops him off. They go to

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school. And then he hates. I've got to just.

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I like this cop. I thought about, I was, I was,

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I finished my run and yeah, I wasn't sure when

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to bring this up. And I don't know if you'd call

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miles a kid, but this is one of the few times

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in the history of this podcast. Good cop. Good

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kid. Yeah. It might be the old time. It was honestly

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racking my brains to think. Cause there've been

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times there've been like, Oh, there's a sneaky

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good kid or, Oh wow. This cop actually did the

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right thing. No, no good cop. Good kid. Cause

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even when he was kind of mad at Spider -Man.

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He was not like, oh, good. He's well, spoiler

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alert. He's dead. Yes. He was like. So like and

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then with the new Spider -Man, he was going to

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work with him, too. He didn't love it, but he

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was actually like willing to be like not bend

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his morals, but like, OK, I'm not too good for

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you. I will work with you. So that was really

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nice to see that they've created a good cop.

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Yeah. So that was nice. Well, Spider -Man did

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say, I love you. That's true. We can definitely

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see why this cop hasn't made detective yet. Cause

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he's not good at like figuring shit out. That,

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that, that too as well. So then Miles goes to

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blow off steam with his uncle, Aaron, and does

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some graffiti art. Who's very good at, and what

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happens? The usual Spider -Man thing gets bit

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by a radioactive spider. Not sure why it had

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number 42 on it, but. maybe one of y 'all know

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jackie robinson oh perfect thank you that makes

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sense miles morales is uh oftentimes hit up with

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that number 42 so you see it a couple times in

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the movie like when he when miles falls yes there's

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the 42 next to him it's all a nod to jackie robinson

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that's cool i didn't know that yeah i didn't

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i i honestly thought you're pulling my leg at

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first uh no that is yeah so he gets bit obviously

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the spider -man stuff starts to happen sports

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i love that first thing though when he gets bit

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and then it's just sort of like yeah and that's

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a quick slap spider dead goodbye you did your

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job since we're just going into a little bit

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of the history of uh miles morales uh comes from

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the ultimate comics universe um brian michael

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bendis had written the entirety of uh ultimate

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comics spider -man and when he was kind of figuring

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out what to do with the character and i think

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at this point they knew they were gonna kill

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peter parker um but he has adopted uh daughters

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who are black and he was talking to them and

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they were like how come we don't have a spider

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-man he's like you're right how come you don't

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have a spider -man and that's where he came up

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with the idea of doing miles oh that's awesome

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i love that uh okay so miles has been bitten

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he goes to school the next day he's got all this

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like oh what's wrong with me powers and that's

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where we're too small the high waters Did I hit

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puberty? Why did I say that out loud? Why am

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I so sweaty? Yes, that's what I ask myself every

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day. I don't think I'm going through puberty

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anymore. Yeah, I didn't know internal monologue

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was a Spider -Man power, but apparently that's

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part of the game. Another fun thing about that

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is the comic book thing that they lean into with

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the little things popping up like they would

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in a comic book. I was like, okay, that's a cool

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little artistic thing that y 'all did there.

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Yeah. The style of this is very good. Yeah. More

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of this. please. That's where we meet. Gwanda.

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Gwanda. Gwanda. Gwanda. Your name's Gwanda? She's

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South African. Couldn't help but think of my...

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But I grew up here. A little nod to the Avengers

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2, which I was like, okay, that's kind of fun.

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But anyway, we meet Gwanda and we find out that

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he can't control the stickiness of his hands.

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Me too, dude. Halfway out. I knew that that one

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wasn't... That was going to get hit by something.

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And so we meet her and he's still freaking out

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then. Oh my gosh. Where do we go from like, all

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right, help, help pick me up here. So, I mean,

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just like, there's a fun scene in that is, you

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know, he, he goes in the security cop guy is

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like, Hey, where'd you go? Morales. He's like,

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Oh, play dumb. who's morales and then he ends

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up in his office you know he sneaks out the window

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walks on the wall when he gets back to his apartment

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he's trying to figure out what happens he finds

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a spider -man an issue of spider -man that has

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the origins of spider -man which just bugs me

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i'm like so spider -man's told his story and

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I'm assuming within the comics has a secret entity

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that isn't Peter Parker, but it's Peter Parker's

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origin story. Hmm. I've never liked that. I found

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a plot hole. Right. Yeah. That's actually a good

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point. It's silly and it's always bugged me.

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Yeah. I'm taking too long to get us through here.

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So now he wants to go see his uncle Aaron. That's

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part of the show. Sean cheaped out on Sean in

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60 seconds. There's the other 50 seconds. You

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got 55 seconds. All right. So now he's at least

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gotten himself unstuck from everything. And he's

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like, who do I trust? Uncle Aaron. I'll go see

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him again. Ghost finds the spider. He's like,

00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.509
oh, okay. Still there. Still dead. And that's

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where we first get, well, reintroduced to Peter

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Parker as he is fighting something not far from

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where Uncle Aaron lives. What do you think of

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the Green Goblin creature? Thank you. I'm confused

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by that. Is that a comic thing? That's the Green

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Goblin from the Ultimate Universe. Oh, he's that

00:14:22.509 --> 00:14:26.899
big? Yeah. Oh, he's a big boy. I did the IMDb

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search for this one, and I already knew the voice

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cast for this was great. I didn't realize that

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was Jorma from Lonely Island. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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really cool. Nice. A little Andy Samberg love

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right there. But yeah, what, his three lines

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he had, and three of them or two of them are

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growls. Like, I thought that was kind of an interesting

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take. But I liked it and still called him Norm.

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So obviously it's the right guy. And then we

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get to them fighting for what was the big machinery

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called again? Super Collider. Super Collider.

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That's right. Which I think looks cool as hell.

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It's really cool, yeah. And they get in a battle.

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Well, Miles doesn't. Miles is trying to hide.

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And Spider -Man. Peter Parker is fighting against

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Jorma, the Green Goblin. And Liev Scheiber makes

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his appearance as Kingpin. Golly. So I love this

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like version of the Kingpin, like visually, like

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big head, middle of his body, just like giant

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wide shoulders. How much do you think this guy

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spends on double doors? Like everywhere he like

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buys. He needs a double door. We got to talk

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about his dick, too. I just really want to know.

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What's going on with that dick? Is it a button?

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Is it big? Like, I don't know. How did it work

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with his wife? Yeah, and they had a child. Unless

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that child's adopted, something happened. Normal

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looking child, yeah. Where did the shoulders

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go? Puberty. Ah, doy. That's what happens. This

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specific... depiction of the kingpin is based

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on a oh god uh bilson kevich uh daredevil run

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a very kind of abstracted like version um awesome

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there's so much comic history in this movie yeah

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and i was i was wondering about that i figured

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there was always like nods that i was not getting

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you know things that were there for very specific

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reasons that people more educated in comics would

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know than i would um i love the design of kingpin

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i think it's really fucking cool the first time

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he shows up it's like solid black and he kind

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of emerges and all you can see is that fucking

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head and the like shirt lapels it's such a cool

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design he looks like he's mounted on a wall and

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the wall is his body That's cool. It's a good

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style for him. I like that they made him all

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black, though. Yeah. I think that worked really

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well for the visuals of him. All new, all black

00:16:44.220 --> 00:16:46.220
kingpin. Yeah. Yeah, that was a good choice.

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That was Daredevil with fucking Batman. Friends

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of Matt Damon. Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck. Daredevil.

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Way to get there, Matt Damon. Notable friend

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of Matt Damon. Yes, yes. He's not famous for

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anything else. So yeah, so Spider -Man gets in

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the fight. It looks like, and I... Looks like

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that Spider -Man saw something and he definitely

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got his butt whooped. And he tells Miles, hey,

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you still got to do this. Here's your here's

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your task. And Miles says, OK, I'll help you.

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And then Kingpin shows up, confronts Peter. Peter

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tells him you can't do this. And Kingpin kills

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him, which the first time I saw this, I was like,

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no, Spider -Man can't die. That's ridiculous.

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So has Kingpin killed Spider -Man? comic history

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that i don't know about or is that i mean in

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ultimate spider -man peter does die uh but he

00:17:36.349 --> 00:17:38.910
dies taking a bullet for captain america yeah

00:17:38.910 --> 00:17:42.109
uh okay well and kingpin must be pretty strong

00:17:42.109 --> 00:17:44.069
if he could i mean yeah spidey had kind of gotten

00:17:44.069 --> 00:17:46.569
his butt whooped but like he only hit him once

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and he was dead his big old ham fist that's true

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like mega strong yeah like for a normal person

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what isn't it like he supposedly has like 2 %

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body fat or something like that. He's just a

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fucking brick shithouse. Gosh. Okay. I gotta

00:18:04.140 --> 00:18:06.980
see that guy naked. I gotta see him. Rule 34.

00:18:07.339 --> 00:18:09.980
It exists somewhere. You know it exists somewhere.

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I'm not Googling that. You can do that on your

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own. Not on a work computer. Just look up what

00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:18.460
Kingpin's dick looks like. I'll do it. I'll fucking

00:18:18.460 --> 00:18:21.000
Google anything. Yeah, that won't be a problem.

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My FBI overlord will have to see it at some point.

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Exactly. looking at kingpin dick again just saved

00:18:29.829 --> 00:18:34.589
the photo nick quit googling it every week don't

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need that history you're not my dad one thing

00:18:38.049 --> 00:18:40.809
that um maybe a slight plot hole is okay so he

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kills spider -man and kingpin says get rid of

00:18:43.069 --> 00:18:46.160
the body It is, what, maybe an hour later that

00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.539
the news breaks that they found his body? Whoever

00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:50.900
got rid of the Spider -Man body did a terrible

00:18:50.900 --> 00:18:53.299
job of hiding it. Chuck it in the... It's like,

00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.559
well, outside. Like, this is a guy that... Take

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the mask off and people won't even know who he

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is. It'll just be dead Peter Parker. They didn't

00:19:00.980 --> 00:19:02.920
even take his costume off, apparently. Yeah,

00:19:02.940 --> 00:19:05.279
I don't think they cared that much. Chuck him

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in Times Square. Here you go. They wanted people

00:19:07.819 --> 00:19:09.299
to know. Leave him outside. It must be, like,

00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:13.470
mass trash collection day or whatever. bulk trash

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that's what they call it clearly he was clearly

00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:17.869
he was proud of having done it because when he

00:19:17.869 --> 00:19:20.130
threw his ball he had all of the waitstaff dressed

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as spider -man that's true yes yeah oh what a

00:19:25.130 --> 00:19:27.450
power play what am i also weird inviting mj to

00:19:27.450 --> 00:19:30.779
that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, weird that

00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:32.859
you took the invite. I'd be like, you know, a

00:19:32.859 --> 00:19:34.599
little too fresh, a little too fresh. I'll do

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it without the free bread. Yeah, now they not

00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.079
know he's evil. OK, so then Peter B. Parker.

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Yes. How does he show up? I can't remember. He

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gets sucked through the thingy. Well, no, I remember

00:19:46.500 --> 00:19:48.500
that part. But like, how does he show up in Miles's

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life? So when Peter, when Spider, Peter Parker

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and Norman are fighting, Norman sticks him into

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the. magic ray the collider beam right and that

00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.079
like searches out all the like spider -men and

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that's how all the spider people get pulled in

00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:08.759
right i meant more like how does he actively

00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:13.880
in the movie meet miles at the he goes to his

00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:19.000
uh miles goes to the grave peter's grave oh that's

00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.859
there to look at his dead body apparently i mean

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you know if i woke up in a universe i was dead

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I might want to go check that out. I'd be curious.

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Yeah. Because you know what? You need that fucking

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flash selfie. Yes. Yes. That did have that scene

00:20:37.700 --> 00:20:39.579
has one of my favorite quotes. So like they are

00:20:39.579 --> 00:20:42.720
interacting. Miles zaps him. because he has a

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:44.980
power that he didn't know then the cops are there

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the cop on the radio is just like uh it looks

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like a child dressed like spider -man is dragging

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a homeless corpse behind a train that was a really

00:20:55.779 --> 00:20:57.660
good one i didn't write that one down but it

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made the cut yeah i just i i love i can we just

00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:04.259
say how much peter b parker is just like the

00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:08.890
best spider -man like i love me a chubby out

00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:13.130
of shape or divorced sad spider -man with sweats

00:21:13.130 --> 00:21:20.509
i can relate to that so good and everyone's just

00:21:20.509 --> 00:21:22.529
dogging on him the whole time too it's like wow

00:21:22.529 --> 00:21:24.750
you are just like spider -man except a little

00:21:24.750 --> 00:21:29.769
older yeah a little fatter i love when he tells

00:21:29.769 --> 00:21:33.369
his origin story it's the same as uh chris pine

00:21:33.369 --> 00:21:36.619
spider -man but it's just i think add 10 more

00:21:36.619 --> 00:21:38.900
years onto it because they say chris pine spider

00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:41.759
-man's like 27 when he dies so this spider -man's

00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.660
like closer to 40 and he's like i broke my back

00:21:44.660 --> 00:21:48.599
uh aunt may died things with mj went bad but

00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:51.349
you know I was still I was still out there doing

00:21:51.349 --> 00:21:53.670
it. And it's just him in the spider suit in the

00:21:53.670 --> 00:21:58.230
shower crying. Well, when he gets sucked into

00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:00.130
that universe, too, he's like, well, you know,

00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:02.569
so I was doing my abs and my pushups and stuff.

00:22:03.210 --> 00:22:05.690
Pizza right in the mouth. And the pizza didn't

00:22:05.690 --> 00:22:08.410
even go with him. I felt so sad and sucked into

00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:10.069
another world. You want to have a snack? Jeez.

00:22:10.329 --> 00:22:13.710
He's got that burger place. That worked out.

00:22:13.769 --> 00:22:18.000
And Miles had to pay for it. Not really liquid

00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.500
right now. We kind of move forward a little bit

00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.339
to one thing that happens at least twice in this

00:22:25.339 --> 00:22:30.920
movie. Spider -Man, I know, they swing. The first

00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:32.680
of two times they take a bus to get somewhere.

00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:36.319
I mean, yeah, he's right. He probably couldn't

00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.319
spend that time training miles how to swing.

00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:40.859
They needed to get the thing fixed. But a bus?

00:22:41.059 --> 00:22:43.940
He does say you got to rest your legs. That's

00:22:43.940 --> 00:22:46.920
true. We're also kind of in the country. So like.

00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:48.640
Yeah, swinging all the way out there will be

00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.119
hard. Yeah, swinging all the way out there is

00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.319
going to be rough. Yeah, Spider -Man wouldn't

00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.819
do so well in like Iowa. He needs to be in a

00:22:54.819 --> 00:22:56.519
bigger city. That's why he's always in New York,

00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.180
it appears. Iowa would be a shitty spot for Spider

00:22:59.180 --> 00:23:02.210
-Man. Corn stalks? They're not that tall. Or

00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:06.430
strong. No. You also need the density of buildings.

00:23:06.549 --> 00:23:08.490
You know, growing up in San Francisco, I thought

00:23:08.490 --> 00:23:11.130
about this. Like, there's only a very small pocket

00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:14.069
where there are tall buildings. Like, Spider

00:23:14.069 --> 00:23:16.430
-Man in San Francisco could only really do about

00:23:16.430 --> 00:23:19.809
10 square blocks. It's kind of like Seattle in

00:23:19.809 --> 00:23:22.009
that way, too. It's not that much. And that's

00:23:22.009 --> 00:23:25.069
why Spider -Man is predominantly like Manhattan,

00:23:25.309 --> 00:23:27.410
too. You go to some of the other boroughs and

00:23:27.410 --> 00:23:30.220
it's not like Queens. There's not a whole lot

00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:33.039
to swing on in Queens. Any other city? Spider

00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.359
buggy. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Yeah, I did like

00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.759
seeing the spider buggy later, too. Yeah. All

00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.619
right. So we get to where they're going to the

00:23:42.619 --> 00:23:47.140
place to get the the the wait. Donner. Goober.

00:23:47.180 --> 00:23:51.880
Goober. Donner. Miles gets this USB stick from

00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.259
regular Peter Parker as he's before he dies and

00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:56.819
then breaks it. He immediately breaks it by.

00:23:57.450 --> 00:24:00.849
He was trying to leap of faith. Oh, I did like

00:24:00.849 --> 00:24:02.450
that scene, too, when he's trying to figure out

00:24:02.450 --> 00:24:04.849
if he can jump off of a building. And it's that

00:24:04.849 --> 00:24:07.369
going up the staircase, being on the edge, and

00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:08.829
then immediately it's just going down the staircase.

00:24:08.970 --> 00:24:11.069
And then looking up at the building again, being

00:24:11.069 --> 00:24:13.490
like, can I do this? And then the slightly shorter

00:24:13.490 --> 00:24:15.369
one next. So like, oh, that one's so much better.

00:24:15.470 --> 00:24:20.230
It's two stories shorter. He lives. Great little

00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:22.269
call out and love letter to the original Tobey

00:24:22.269 --> 00:24:26.750
Maguire Spider -Man initial web swing. Yes. Straight

00:24:26.750 --> 00:24:33.599
in. okay so they're getting the uh the thing

00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.380
fixed the donger see that's a problem now that's

00:24:37.380 --> 00:24:38.759
stuck in my head i don't know it's gonna be the

00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:40.400
donger for the rest of the episode all right

00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.039
so we got they're getting the donger fixed they

00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.799
go and peter says all right i'm not actually

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.160
going to teach you right now you're going to

00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.720
be the lookout here's my plan to get in has a

00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.400
really good plan which is immediately foiled

00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.390
because after he leaves who pulls up kingpin

00:24:54.390 --> 00:24:57.990
ready to uh check on things going on there and

00:24:57.990 --> 00:25:00.609
that frankenstein motherfucker tombstone tombstone

00:25:00.609 --> 00:25:04.069
who i think i do like how his initial plan involved

00:25:04.069 --> 00:25:07.369
at the end grabbing a bagel and while we're going

00:25:07.369 --> 00:25:10.410
through the escapes like and grabbing a bagel

00:25:10.410 --> 00:25:14.150
that's one of my favorite lines is when they're

00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:17.950
chasing them out he got a bagel i laughed harder

00:25:17.950 --> 00:25:19.769
at that than i should have i'll be honest i love

00:25:19.769 --> 00:25:23.180
that they call back to that in uh the second

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:25.380
movie yeah and across the spider -verse i need

00:25:25.380 --> 00:25:26.799
to re -watch that i don't remember that part

00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.359
it's part of the spot's origin yeah he's the

00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:30.940
guy that gets hit with the bagel he's the one

00:25:30.940 --> 00:25:34.039
who got bageled yeah he turns into the spot later

00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:37.339
oh that's right oh i forgot about that oh man

00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:42.160
that's that's perfect yeah that's right so he's

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.440
peter and now miles are in there because miles

00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.000
is like oh my gosh kingpin's there watch out

00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.980
and that's when peter and miles get everything

00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:54.680
set up to steal it and who should walk in but

00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:59.220
uh live live walks in and is like oh this is

00:25:59.220 --> 00:26:00.900
fascinating you're peter parker but you're not

00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:03.740
our peter parker and you're starting to your

00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:06.339
items are not liking this this is bad for you

00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:09.799
and i can't wait to watch you die and he's like

00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:13.460
what's your name olivia octavius yep yep yep

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:18.420
my friends call me live Yes, which fucking I

00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:20.380
love it, Han. Terrific, yeah. We were talking

00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:22.559
about the cast earlier. How many of these people

00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.460
either already had or were about to have MCU

00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:29.660
credits to them? Like, if there's ten in the

00:26:29.660 --> 00:26:31.619
cast, eight of them had it. If you got Agatha

00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:35.259
there, I mean... It's a great group of people.

00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.079
Oh, my gosh. So, hell, I mean, obviously, Cage

00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.099
is going to be having his own MCU appearance.

00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.920
So, yeah, so we meet Olivia Octavius. Doc Ock

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.380
is there, and... Does her best to fight off two

00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:49.299
spider people. What did you do for weird little

00:26:49.299 --> 00:26:52.960
medical arms? Oh, I like them. I thought they

00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.799
worked for this character. My favorite callback

00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.059
in this entire movie is like, it's like, what's

00:26:58.059 --> 00:27:00.839
your name? It's like, but your friends call you

00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:02.400
Doc Ock. It's like, no, my friends call me Liv.

00:27:02.619 --> 00:27:05.279
My enemies call me Doc Ock. And when they raid

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.980
Aunt May's house later, Aunt May just goes, Liv.

00:27:09.699 --> 00:27:12.259
i i wrote that one down actually too oh great

00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:16.000
it's live it's like oh they're friends okay that's

00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.019
cool i did think it was interesting her arms

00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:19.960
are so long that they could like hold her up

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.980
and she's not actually touching the ground for

00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:24.059
most of the time she's doc ock yeah it's like

00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:26.140
oh okay you you just don't want to walk that

00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:28.220
much listen would you uh actually good point

00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:30.900
no i let them do all that for me the best doc

00:27:30.900 --> 00:27:33.559
ox always kind of Yeah. Sit above the ground

00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.759
like that. I feel like I'd be more reclined if

00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.900
I were a Doc Ock. Oh, like recumbent? Yeah. Like

00:27:38.900 --> 00:27:41.640
recumbent arms? Recumbent octa. Just fucking

00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.140
chill out. Well, if they're that. That's a hedonism

00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:48.819
bot just getting slid in. Just walking on the

00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:51.859
little like octopus fingers. You got it. Well,

00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:53.500
couldn't you make it into a rocking chair? They

00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:55.500
were very. Oh, I'm sure you could do all sorts

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:58.460
of things. You could turn it into a sex swing

00:27:58.460 --> 00:28:02.539
if you wanted. Yeah. Easily. sure she has you

00:28:02.539 --> 00:28:04.779
know why the heck not so right hold on thinking

00:28:04.779 --> 00:28:09.900
about it nice was it with kingpin what that dick

00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:11.779
like it's the only dick i know what it looks

00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:13.880
like in this movie you had a lot of kingpin dong

00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.000
in this already so i haven't googled anybody

00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.420
else's penis yet not yet ain't over yet uh so

00:28:20.420 --> 00:28:22.900
she beat she uh defeats two of the spider -men

00:28:22.900 --> 00:28:32.619
only for us to now meet not materials they need

00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:35.759
to actually make the new donger so i love when

00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:40.019
they're when they're escaping and peter is just

00:28:40.019 --> 00:28:42.559
like well great news we don't need the monitor

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:48.359
i forgot about that oh and that's one thing i

00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.740
did skip over he also finds out he can turn invisible

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:53.079
miles does right which is also pretty important

00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.259
and another one of his powers which is that new

00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:57.680
to the movie sean or is that uh that's part of

00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.279
my stuff interesting i didn't know he has the

00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.750
venom strike anytime is invisible oh that's that's

00:29:02.750 --> 00:29:08.329
he's got like predator camouflage ah that's cool

00:29:08.329 --> 00:29:11.650
yeah i like that and then yes but what did they

00:29:11.650 --> 00:29:14.079
do to get back Back on the bus. So they take

00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.220
the bus home, and Peter is taking a bit of a

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:17.980
nap, so that probably actually works out pretty

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:20.299
well for them. So that's good. And Gwen actually

00:29:20.299 --> 00:29:22.380
introduces herself, and we get to hear Gwen's

00:29:22.380 --> 00:29:24.700
origin story, where in her world, Peter Parker's

00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:26.900
her good friend, who she can't save, so that

00:29:26.900 --> 00:29:30.599
kind of becomes her version of Uncle Ben. And

00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:32.960
in that one, she actually saves her dad, too,

00:29:33.019 --> 00:29:35.660
which I know is not often Gwen Stacy's story,

00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.480
too. So I thought that was kind of interesting,

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:40.440
a little twist on that one. Well, and so in Spider

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.900
-Gwen, yeah, it's her story. is like she loses

00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:45.460
her best friend who was peter who in her universe

00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:50.960
was the green goblin which i think is part of

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.680
uh beyond the spider verse they like go more

00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.660
in depth into that. That's kind of cool. I was

00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:58.319
wondering because when they show his body, I

00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.799
thought I saw something that looked like scales

00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.519
or something, but I was like, I'm just probably

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.799
seeing he was wet. And it's like, oh, no, he's

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.920
green. Yeah, very much so. All right. So then

00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.700
they go back and that's when they go meet with

00:30:10.700 --> 00:30:12.779
Aunt May, if I'm not mistaken, right? Three of

00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:14.680
them go and Peter's like, I'm not sure I'm ready

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.599
for this. Yes, because I need a lab. I did. I

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.599
did appreciate the May's intro to their lab that

00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.000
they got to work in. Oh, cool. a little shed

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.480
with my stuff in it that's uh this is a little

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.880
pretentious but uh is this like your shed yeah

00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:35.079
and uh i also did appreciate too and i i don't

00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:36.519
know the spider -man costumes that well but they

00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.680
did have the one with the cape call back to earlier

00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.680
when miles was like a cape and he's like no capes

00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:46.339
the sorcerer supreme spider -man nice a little

00:30:46.339 --> 00:30:48.900
loop in a doctor strange there they also have

00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:50.819
my least favorite spider -man costume of all

00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:54.079
time in those cases the sony spider -man video

00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.900
game costumes in there with like the big white

00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.599
spider and the white guy man why do people like

00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.759
the advanced suit that much like i don't like

00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.119
that one i think it's stupid i don't like the

00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.859
dirt bike looking gloves with the like oversized

00:31:06.859 --> 00:31:10.359
knuckle protectors yeah it doesn't do it for

00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:15.079
me so i agree what's the best spider suit probably

00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.299
the one he's got now in the mcu where he made

00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:19.200
it himself and it's all the correct colors and

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.099
i always hated that it was like the tony stark

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:22.920
one classics oh yeah that's the thing is like

00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.619
i love iron man obviously but i thought them

00:31:25.619 --> 00:31:27.700
iron spidering him for most of the two movies

00:31:27.700 --> 00:31:29.480
i was like that's not really spider -man is it

00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.579
comic wise my favorite is probably the ramita

00:31:33.579 --> 00:31:37.839
black and red which they do uh homage to in um

00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:40.029
the second spider -man movie when he makes his

00:31:40.029 --> 00:31:45.930
own suit at the end yeah yeah um boy yeah i really

00:31:45.930 --> 00:31:48.569
like superior i think that's a really good suit

00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:50.990
uh future foundation's a really good suit too

00:31:50.990 --> 00:31:53.950
i do love the future foundation suit that one's

00:31:53.950 --> 00:31:56.250
sick yeah yeah those are probably my favorites

00:31:56.730 --> 00:31:59.410
Nice. Well, and we've met his suits. And who

00:31:59.410 --> 00:32:02.250
else do we meet in this scene? One half hour

00:32:02.250 --> 00:32:04.589
in, finally, our good friend Nicolas Cage shows

00:32:04.589 --> 00:32:06.890
up. The other Spider -Mans. Spider -Noir. And

00:32:06.890 --> 00:32:09.509
two other Spider -Mans. Yeah, Sean, you actually

00:32:09.509 --> 00:32:12.369
told me this. It's Spider -Man, right? Plural

00:32:12.369 --> 00:32:15.849
for spider. Oh, Spider -Mans. Oh, okay. And Gwen's

00:32:15.849 --> 00:32:17.950
there, so we can't say that. They say Spider

00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:20.150
-Man in this movie, which bugs me, because it's

00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:22.410
his name. It's their name, not their title. So

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:24.740
it shouldn't be. it shouldn't change you should

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:27.380
just add an s to the end which they do do in

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:36.180
um into uh no way home when um the three spider

00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:38.440
-mans are gonna go like fight the sinister six

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.460
tom holland when they're jumping off the statue

00:32:40.460 --> 00:32:43.200
of liberty goes uh spider -mans go and i'm like

00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.759
vindication course corrected i like that well

00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.740
and in this one i did hear at least once they

00:32:49.740 --> 00:32:52.059
did say spider people because they were trying

00:32:52.059 --> 00:32:54.519
to be yep there's at least two females there

00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.920
so it's like spider people i like that they're

00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.140
inclusive um but yeah so and a cartoon pig yeah

00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:04.420
that's true it's actually a cartoon spider who

00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:07.019
was bitten by a radioactive pig I read about

00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:09.420
that this morning. I was like, I thought, I thought

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:11.279
it came from the Simpsons to be honest. I thought

00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.220
it was an homage to, yeah. It's like, where did

00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:15.859
this come? I mean, I love John Mulaney. So the

00:33:15.859 --> 00:33:18.480
voice was perfect, but that one came out of left

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.900
field for me. I did like that. His nose was the

00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:26.200
same as his face. Can you float through the air?

00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:35.960
I have a freshly baked pie. Surprise it. But

00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.319
then we get the last, well, three of the last

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.539
four origin stories because we get Spider Noir,

00:33:40.539 --> 00:33:43.339
we get Spider Pig, and we get the, I can't remember

00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:45.859
the name. Penny Parker. Penny Parker. And yeah,

00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.000
I guess it's probably as good a time as any to

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.279
bore Nicolas Cage. I mean, it's a very small

00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.920
role, but very good. And you know what? Very

00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.619
understated in all the right ways. I just watched

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:01.990
a supercut of Spider -Verse only. the scenes

00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:04.529
that have spider -man noir in them and it comes

00:34:04.529 --> 00:34:06.609
out to about five minutes and 40 seconds of screen

00:34:06.609 --> 00:34:08.630
time that sounds about right i thought it would

00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:11.929
be less yeah no he's cool i like his style such

00:34:11.929 --> 00:34:16.429
a good job he's beating up nazis i like drinking

00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:18.630
i like drinking egg creams and fighting nazis

00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:24.989
the wind follows the wind smells like rain i

00:34:24.989 --> 00:34:27.150
do love when he shows up and his like cape is

00:34:27.150 --> 00:34:28.829
blowing and they're in a basement it's like yeah

00:34:28.829 --> 00:34:33.889
they wind we're in a basement how is he sometimes

00:34:33.889 --> 00:34:39.190
i burn a match just to feel something i had a

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:41.070
question about it though so he he's a peter parker

00:34:41.070 --> 00:34:45.170
in this one but in the new show he's ben reilly

00:34:45.170 --> 00:34:48.170
so what's the deal and miller have said that

00:34:48.170 --> 00:34:50.809
this is a standalone that spider -man is a standalone

00:34:50.809 --> 00:34:52.269
thing it has nothing to do with spider -verse

00:34:52.269 --> 00:34:54.550
they're not connected to anything else it's just

00:34:54.550 --> 00:34:57.210
going to be its own standalone yeah everything

00:34:57.739 --> 00:35:00.039
i think i mean this one he is peter benjamin

00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.739
parker though too i read that somewhere so okay

00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:04.739
so they're they're it's its own thing but they

00:35:04.739 --> 00:35:07.420
do an homage to it okay yeah well so ben reilly

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:11.260
for those who don't know bill is the clone of

00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:14.099
is the clone of peter parker from the 90s who

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.039
becomes scarlet spider which i do like the scarlet

00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.559
spider suit off as well that's so good that's

00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.440
so 90s i love that hoodie though yeah and so

00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.980
many pockets he's got like pockets on belts a

00:35:26.980 --> 00:35:30.500
red singlet red singlet blue hoodie with a spider

00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:34.199
on it with the sleeves torn off yep so like the

00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.179
first toby mcguire suit then right when he was

00:35:37.179 --> 00:35:39.360
wrestling the guy pretty much pretty close yeah

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.500
yeah so that's where ben reilly the name ben

00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:44.210
reilly comes from for uh spider noir OK, that

00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:45.829
makes more sense. Yeah, I feel better about that

00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:49.269
now. OK, so we meet them and they all and Miles

00:35:49.269 --> 00:35:50.670
says, I'm ready to help you guys. This will be

00:35:50.670 --> 00:35:53.579
great. And then he fails a test with all of them.

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:56.739
Like pretty quick succession. Yeah. Performance

00:35:56.739 --> 00:35:59.820
anxiety. Oh man. Puberty. It's a puberty thing.

00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:02.360
Don't worry. I mean, at least two of them are

00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.639
kind of rooting for him. So that was kind of

00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.860
nice, but also I don't blame the other three.

00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.679
They just met this guy and he's supposed to save

00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:10.880
them and send them home. Okay. Yeah. You, you

00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.059
couldn't, you couldn't take a punch. You couldn't

00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:15.280
deal with this robot and a pig just beat you.

00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:17.800
So I wouldn't trust him either. If I were them.

00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.489
I mean, that pig's pretty impressive like dropping

00:36:21.489 --> 00:36:25.309
anvils on uh people later in the movie and he's

00:36:25.309 --> 00:36:27.750
got a lot of skills i did make one of my other

00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:31.429
uh favorite lines from again five his five minutes

00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:33.670
uh when they're all huddling up talking about

00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:36.429
how they can't trust him and uh and spider noir

00:36:36.429 --> 00:36:38.489
goes he's looking right at us while we talk about

00:36:38.489 --> 00:36:42.500
him Just like, oops, maybe we should talk quieter.

00:36:43.059 --> 00:36:45.559
Oh, and then he goes up on the elevator and they're

00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.420
like, see, he can disappear. So we get through

00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:54.440
that and he's he's all sad. So who does he go

00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.199
to? Uncle Aaron again, except he just goes to

00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.690
his apartment. And then the twist that I don't

00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:01.190
know. I didn't see coming the first time I saw

00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:04.789
this. Yeah. So Uncle Aaron is Prowler, who has

00:37:04.789 --> 00:37:07.449
been a thorn in everyone's side most of the movie

00:37:07.449 --> 00:37:10.369
now. And poor Miles just finds us out right now.

00:37:10.730 --> 00:37:13.170
Yeah. Not great. OK, I've got one gripe with

00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:15.849
Prowler because like that suit is cool. The like

00:37:15.849 --> 00:37:21.679
tech is cool. The motorcycle. Oh, man. Not your

00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.239
bag, huh? No, it's just like he can go super

00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:25.960
fast. He can run, but he's just got this like

00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.119
dork ass bike. Where does he keep it? He was

00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:33.539
ready to go, too. I mean, who has a garage in

00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:37.139
Brooklyn? Yeah, not a fucking chance. He lives

00:37:37.139 --> 00:37:40.599
in a fucking apartment. Yeah, yeah. Well, and

00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.599
that was a part of it on the roof. Can anyone

00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.920
else put a bag over it? He might actually. It's

00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.599
a very Batman of him. But when he is right in

00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.820
front of Miles, He can't see him yet. Miles is

00:37:51.820 --> 00:37:54.000
two floors down on the fire escape and all of

00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.760
a sudden he can see his outline. He switched

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.860
like a different. Okay. So he has like a. Yeah,

00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:01.739
he went to, like, thermal infrared, whatever.

00:38:01.780 --> 00:38:03.980
Okay, good. Because that bothered me. I missed

00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:05.980
the switch. So I was just like, okay. He was

00:38:05.980 --> 00:38:07.440
literally, like, you could have smelled him,

00:38:07.460 --> 00:38:09.960
his breath, if he had had, like, garlic. Like,

00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.739
how did you miss him before? But, okay, I feel

00:38:12.739 --> 00:38:15.619
better about that. Gripe over. So he gets away

00:38:15.619 --> 00:38:18.500
and goes back to May's house when we get to the

00:38:18.500 --> 00:38:22.599
wonderful, ugh, it's Liv, line. And we have,

00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:26.559
actually, a pretty epic battle between the Sinister

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.380
Six, basically, right? Yeah. I do love this scene

00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:33.199
when we cut back to May's house and we see Spider

00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.480
Noir like on the couch with the Rubik's Cube

00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.300
and he's just guessing at the colors. Purple?

00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:44.099
No. And then at the end of the movie he takes

00:38:44.099 --> 00:38:45.820
the Rubik's Cube and he's like, I don't know

00:38:45.820 --> 00:38:49.000
what it is, but I'm going to figure it out. Take

00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:53.199
this with me. So good. Yeah, the Rubik's Cube

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.719
is a great bit. How did you not lose it during

00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:01.050
the fight? So I love like any Sinister Six is

00:39:01.050 --> 00:39:03.630
a great combination of Sinister Six for me. My

00:39:03.630 --> 00:39:07.690
favorites always only include five members, but

00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:11.590
there's still the Sinister Six. There's auditions

00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:13.789
for that six part. It's fine. But I really like

00:39:13.789 --> 00:39:17.050
this Scorpion. I'm not like I don't know if I

00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:21.329
love like the mechanical leg version. I do like

00:39:21.329 --> 00:39:24.670
what Gargan's like when his suit is just like

00:39:24.670 --> 00:39:27.119
part of him when it's just like. molded onto

00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.940
his body because because of an accident so he

00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:32.199
can never take it off that's why he's okay um

00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:36.980
but i like this and i like uh that he only spoke

00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:41.179
spanish portuguese yeah and in the version i

00:39:41.179 --> 00:39:42.739
watched they at least translated it for us so

00:39:42.739 --> 00:39:44.639
that was kind of like oh that's what he's saying

00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.420
okay yeah he just he's gonna threaten to kill

00:39:46.420 --> 00:39:48.820
him that makes sense um but that's also where

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:51.340
we get the scene where miles reveals himself

00:39:51.340 --> 00:39:54.739
to uncle aaron and that's a bad phrasing but

00:39:54.739 --> 00:39:57.820
it's the second time i've done that that's why

00:39:57.820 --> 00:39:59.860
we didn't have to google that one we know what

00:39:59.860 --> 00:40:03.230
that looked like we're actually all on We're

00:40:03.230 --> 00:40:08.610
all in trouble now. Busted. Busted. Sorry, guys.

00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:11.550
I lose my job. I shut down the podcast. This

00:40:11.550 --> 00:40:15.269
is terrible. But reveals that he is the guy he's

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:17.130
been chasing this whole time, which eventually

00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:18.909
gets Uncle Aaron. Well, eventually, two seconds

00:40:18.909 --> 00:40:21.030
later, gets him killed. Yeah. So I like that

00:40:21.030 --> 00:40:23.670
Aaron was going to let him go. Yeah. Well, and

00:40:23.670 --> 00:40:26.369
man, Kingpin obviously knew he wasn't going to

00:40:26.369 --> 00:40:28.190
do it pretty quick because he's sitting outside.

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:31.190
Do it. Yeah. He takes one step back real quick.

00:40:31.309 --> 00:40:34.010
Yeah. Not even a warning shot and shoot him in

00:40:34.010 --> 00:40:35.409
the butt or something that way. It's like, all

00:40:35.409 --> 00:40:37.070
right, you're down and injured. I'm going to

00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:38.510
yell at you. All right. That's my other gripe.

00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:41.329
Kingpin, obviously like superhuman strength,

00:40:41.489 --> 00:40:44.530
whatever. Badass guy. A lot of gun work. Yeah.

00:40:44.949 --> 00:40:47.949
Well, he's a normal person. Yeah. He's not fast.

00:40:48.409 --> 00:40:53.079
Yeah. I can't imagine he's a climber. yeah probably

00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.780
muscle doesn't seem like he's very like limber

00:40:56.780 --> 00:40:59.820
yeah probably can't like get over a short fence

00:40:59.820 --> 00:41:02.800
very well not quickly struggles with shrubbery

00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.840
knock it over but yeah you're right he's not

00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:06.260
getting to the roof of a house pretty quickly

00:41:06.260 --> 00:41:08.179
he's not flying i mean he's not getting in a

00:41:08.179 --> 00:41:11.519
house very quickly yeah may didn't have the big

00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.440
doors like when we see his like his fight at

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.079
the end of the movie when they're in like the

00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:18.099
flying subway car and yeah And you just see him

00:41:18.099 --> 00:41:20.239
like through the door frame. Yeah, it's just

00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.260
his head and just his back body. And when he

00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:24.940
eventually does go through that door, he has

00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:26.900
to like tear his way through it. Yeah, he tears

00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:28.860
through it. Yeah, he wasn't going to catch his

00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:31.199
wife and son really quickly that way. They were

00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:32.880
they were fitting through all the doors and he

00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.860
was not. Do you think he has to ride in cars

00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:39.659
with like gull wing doors? Only 100 % or convertibles,

00:41:39.659 --> 00:41:41.840
too. He's not like you can't have a roof on.

00:41:42.329 --> 00:41:47.369
every car is a t -top yeah he's got money he

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.250
can he can live that comfortable life yeah oh

00:41:49.250 --> 00:41:51.750
i would love to see the kingpin just rolling

00:41:51.750 --> 00:41:56.349
around in like a fucking trans am again google

00:41:56.349 --> 00:41:58.090
that i'm sure that that's probably easier to

00:41:58.090 --> 00:42:00.469
find than the other thing so yeah no they go

00:42:00.469 --> 00:42:02.909
hand in hand yeah yeah that's true it's a real

00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:07.400
smoky new trans am When was the last time you

00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.619
were on the Internet where anything is easier

00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:13.840
to find than a dick on the Internet? Touche.

00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.960
So then Aaron passes and the dad finds Aaron's

00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.039
brother, finds him and thinks it's Spider -Man

00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:26.000
that did it. So now he's mad at the new Spider

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.559
-Man again, but still can't find his son, goes

00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.480
to have a chat with him. I probably should go

00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.739
back to the Spider -Man officially firing him,

00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.880
though, too. Because he goes back to his apartment

00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.880
and they're like, yeah, we need the donger from

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.619
you, dude. Give me your donger. You're not ready

00:42:44.619 --> 00:42:46.699
for this. Whip out that donger. Yeah. And Jake

00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:49.199
Johnson's Spider -Man's like, I'm sacrificing

00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.940
myself. This is how it's going to be. You're

00:42:51.940 --> 00:42:55.500
not ready yet. Sometime you will be. So kind

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:58.719
of an emotional moment for him. A bummer. And

00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.489
then gets tied up so he can't speak. And the

00:43:01.489 --> 00:43:03.150
dad comes to talk to him and obviously still

00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.190
can't talk to him. Nice touching moment there.

00:43:06.289 --> 00:43:09.510
Again, a good, good cop. Good kid. Good kid.

00:43:09.769 --> 00:43:13.210
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Again, for this podcast, it's

00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:17.469
terrible. A good cop. Son of a. Well, this actually.

00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:23.050
Son of a good cop. Yeah. A more emotional fellow

00:43:23.050 --> 00:43:25.530
myself. So when he's talking to his son and I

00:43:25.530 --> 00:43:28.170
got a little verklempt and that's when I noticed

00:43:28.170 --> 00:43:31.480
that it's not NYPD. over in this world because

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.719
i was like okay don't oh oh that's a nice little

00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.760
like okay so we can say that pdny has a good

00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:43.159
cop yeah not nypd though different universe i

00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.760
do like all the weird little universe like changes

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.739
um i don't know if you like are paying attention

00:43:48.739 --> 00:43:52.619
to like the times square ads yep there's a lot

00:43:52.619 --> 00:43:55.880
of like what uh like what's the uh john mulaney

00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:59.559
um nick kroll show like uh oh hello or whatever

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.900
oh yeah i forgot about that show there was like

00:44:02.900 --> 00:44:05.380
a version of that uh on the never even heard

00:44:05.380 --> 00:44:07.679
of that well and you know steph curry shows up

00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.519
in an ad over there there's um uh seth rogan

00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.400
was in a couple of ads in the background one

00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.559
of the other lines is uh the phone company is

00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.239
c mobile not t yeah so yeah there was a little

00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.679
little digs here and there like ah okay kind

00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.659
of which turns out to be pretty important on

00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:24.880
the second one too yeah they had a show called

00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.179
like in They have a show called Oh, Hello. And

00:44:27.179 --> 00:44:29.400
I think on Times Square in the background, it's

00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:30.800
the same poster, but I think it's called like,

00:44:30.820 --> 00:44:35.420
oh, hey, there or something. It's like Teen Titans

00:44:35.420 --> 00:44:37.420
go to the movies all over again. Oh, heck yeah.

00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.519
I need to watch that. Coca -Cola with a K. Yes.

00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.579
So then we're almost to the end, actually. Yeah,

00:44:46.579 --> 00:44:48.420
we're getting there. Yeah, we're getting there.

00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.440
gala event and then straight to the collider

00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.920
well and it gets to the part that always any

00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:56.340
of these superhero movies where they have that

00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:58.219
montage where they're like figuring it out and

00:44:58.219 --> 00:44:59.900
there's that really awesome song in the background

00:44:59.900 --> 00:45:02.559
you're like okay yeah okay i'm ready to run through

00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.139
a wall too like the good yeah good on them that's

00:45:05.139 --> 00:45:07.019
why i like these movies these are perfect for

00:45:07.019 --> 00:45:09.280
that sort of thing yeah what up danger is a fucking

00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.079
banger track for this also oh yeah i listened

00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.739
to the song without the the visuals today james

00:45:15.739 --> 00:45:17.440
i was like oh okay yeah this should be on my

00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.840
running running list right now this is this is

00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.079
really good and the lyrics were great i do love

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:26.760
how the spider man spider mans get into uh the

00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:28.360
gala because they're like how are we gonna sneak

00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.960
in and then they look down and all of the wait

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.099
staff are wearing spider man masks because and

00:45:33.099 --> 00:45:36.699
nick cage goes it's in poor taste but can't be

00:45:36.699 --> 00:45:41.599
that easy cut to all of them just with bow ties

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:45.030
walking through the gala It is that easy. That

00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:46.630
was one of the lines I wrote down. Except Penny

00:45:46.630 --> 00:45:53.030
in the table. No, that was flipping perfect.

00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:55.769
And yeah, look at those pigs down there. I'm

00:45:55.769 --> 00:46:00.869
right here. But yeah, and then we get to the

00:46:00.869 --> 00:46:04.309
final battle where they're down. Now, I kind

00:46:04.309 --> 00:46:06.630
of miss this. That building is directly on top

00:46:06.630 --> 00:46:08.329
of where the collider is, right? Yeah, yeah.

00:46:08.389 --> 00:46:10.269
Okay, for some reason when it blew up, it looked

00:46:10.269 --> 00:46:12.980
like it was further away for some reason. So

00:46:12.980 --> 00:46:14.840
they lost an entire building that day in that

00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:18.380
world because damn. I do want to say because

00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:20.280
we're about to get to the like, this is right

00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.400
when we do the reveal of Miles's costume and

00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.599
Miles like finally like takes that leap of faith.

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.239
We get that awesome like original trailer scene

00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.920
where he's like jumps off the building and like

00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.789
he's falling towards the ground. the camera makes

00:46:33.789 --> 00:46:36.329
it look like he's like floating up amazing but

00:46:36.329 --> 00:46:38.409
i love this version of that costume where he

00:46:38.409 --> 00:46:40.170
just takes a spider -man costume and spray paints

00:46:40.170 --> 00:46:43.789
it black and the spider itself is like spray

00:46:43.789 --> 00:46:48.170
painted my only critique is like that thing would

00:46:48.170 --> 00:46:51.070
smell so bad yes oh yeah yeah it would be terrible

00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:52.650
probably would have smelled them right away it

00:46:52.650 --> 00:46:55.150
would be flaking off all over the place like

00:46:55.150 --> 00:46:57.690
he would turn invisible and you could just find

00:46:57.690 --> 00:47:02.269
him by the trail of like paint And you will know

00:47:02.269 --> 00:47:04.909
us by our trail of paint. In the Miles Morales

00:47:04.909 --> 00:47:07.869
video game and in Sony Spider -Man 2 video game,

00:47:07.929 --> 00:47:10.630
as soon as I unlock that costume, it's the only

00:47:10.630 --> 00:47:14.130
thing I'll wear. I don't blame you. One of my

00:47:14.130 --> 00:47:16.090
other favorite lines from not Nick Cage in this

00:47:16.090 --> 00:47:19.289
was when he shows up at the thing and Lily Tomlin's

00:47:19.289 --> 00:47:20.650
sitting there, Aunt May's sitting there, and

00:47:20.650 --> 00:47:22.829
just like, took you long enough. It's like, thank

00:47:22.829 --> 00:47:26.190
you. That sets up this next scene very nicely.

00:47:27.050 --> 00:47:30.539
Yeah, she got it. All right. So, yeah, now it's

00:47:30.539 --> 00:47:33.219
fight time. Collider is on. Everything's going

00:47:33.219 --> 00:47:37.340
real wrong. Real bad, real fast. And Miles shows

00:47:37.340 --> 00:47:40.119
up to help turn the ship around a little bit

00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.440
there with his invisibility and punching Doc

00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.360
Ock a little bit. Yeah. I thought that was a

00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.159
good way to enter and everyone excited. And then,

00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.960
yeah, Kingpin turning it up, obviously. It was

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.659
like, all right, I think I can see my wife and

00:47:53.659 --> 00:47:57.440
child, but let's really go. And obviously it's

00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.280
not working really well. Yeah. this final fight

00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.340
is animated is just so fucking cool and trippy

00:48:03.340 --> 00:48:07.840
and uh i mean it blows me away every time i i

00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.340
can just watch that scene over and over it was

00:48:10.340 --> 00:48:12.760
like phantom trucks flying all over the place

00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.500
buildings are blowing out and they collapsing

00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:18.760
on themselves the insane amount of color yes

00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.480
oh i do love how like they point out like well

00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:25.929
this is bad but it looks really cool yeah Well,

00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:28.750
that was one of my favorite parts when the three

00:48:28.750 --> 00:48:30.889
spiders are, oh, here we go. This is going to

00:48:30.889 --> 00:48:33.969
take a while. Doc Ock's approaching them. Boom,

00:48:34.030 --> 00:48:38.789
truck. Yeah. Peter's reaction. It was a visual,

00:48:38.869 --> 00:48:40.570
but like the little hand over the mouth like,

00:48:40.670 --> 00:48:46.429
oh, well, never mind. That was good. Yeah, it's

00:48:46.429 --> 00:48:50.030
your classic shark eaten by bigger shark. Yeah.

00:48:50.309 --> 00:48:53.809
Moment. Yes. It's like, I can't. was that the

00:48:53.809 --> 00:48:55.250
end of her i don't know i guess i'll find out

00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:57.909
if i wouldn't watch the second one um and then

00:48:57.909 --> 00:49:00.210
he's able to send the spiders home so that's

00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:02.849
good and uh even even though jake johnson spider

00:49:02.849 --> 00:49:05.650
-man's like i can do this i want to do this it's

00:49:05.650 --> 00:49:07.630
like you're just afraid to go back to talk to

00:49:07.630 --> 00:49:10.630
your mj yeah get out of here i got this because

00:49:10.630 --> 00:49:12.489
what what was the line it's like i don't want

00:49:12.489 --> 00:49:15.250
to see a spider -man die i don't either yeah

00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:19.940
i thought that was good yeah And then Kingpin

00:49:19.940 --> 00:49:25.019
versus Miles. That's the thing I was a little

00:49:25.019 --> 00:49:28.420
surprised about because Kingpin hits Miles pretty

00:49:28.420 --> 00:49:32.079
hard too. He got up. So I don't know if it's

00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.059
just... Miles didn't have internal bleeding already

00:49:34.059 --> 00:49:36.500
because when he kills Peter, it's like Peter

00:49:36.500 --> 00:49:40.039
is on the brink of death at that point. Yeah.

00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.619
So he just did the final blow. Yeah. Yeah, no.

00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.400
And that's another good, good cop situation,

00:49:46.579 --> 00:49:48.719
too, because at this point, I think I think the

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.300
dad's still a little like, I think I can trust

00:49:51.300 --> 00:49:53.659
Spider -Man. And then it's like, oh, OK, I'm

00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:55.460
rooting for him. I was wrong. And it's like,

00:49:55.460 --> 00:49:59.639
thank you. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. And I like

00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.920
that the finishing move that he does on Kingpin

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:05.800
is from Uncle Aaron. The shoulder touch. I love

00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:09.219
when they throw the hay up behind him. Yeah,

00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:13.360
that was cool. It's cool. It's a good way to

00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.079
finish it. Kingpin's gigantic ass body hits the

00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.489
button. Yeah. Which is also what he calls sex.

00:50:21.769 --> 00:50:25.489
He got there. He brought the button back. I love

00:50:25.489 --> 00:50:29.610
it. Oh, that's good. And then, yeah, the classic

00:50:29.610 --> 00:50:31.690
Spider -Man stringing up the bad guy for the

00:50:31.690 --> 00:50:34.250
cops to take. I thought that was good. The I

00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:36.349
love you at the end obviously brings that all

00:50:36.349 --> 00:50:40.000
together. I was. That was cool. And then I don't

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.599
understand fully, but like the way that they

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.500
can talk to each other still through the portals,

00:50:44.500 --> 00:50:47.000
I probably should understand a little bit better.

00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.659
But, you know, Gwen was able to reach out to

00:50:48.659 --> 00:50:50.780
him pretty easily. So I was I was happy, obviously,

00:50:50.860 --> 00:50:52.199
but it was like, oh, I didn't know it was going

00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.260
to be quite that simple for them. That they bring

00:50:54.260 --> 00:50:58.360
back from the next movie. OK, yeah, that's the

00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:01.619
next one. And the fucking fancy wrist thing.

00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:03.840
Oh, that's right. So it allows them to travel

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.820
through. So she's able to open up that portal

00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:08.889
and be like, hey. put her hand on his shoulder

00:51:08.889 --> 00:51:12.309
yeah it's perfect but uh no to just to wrap it

00:51:12.309 --> 00:51:14.809
up just uh like you guys all said i'm gonna be

00:51:14.809 --> 00:51:17.349
boring too it's a perfect movie yeah it's so

00:51:17.349 --> 00:51:19.829
good in so many levels and i feel a little bad

00:51:19.829 --> 00:51:21.409
because poor nick cage hasn't gotten talked about

00:51:21.409 --> 00:51:24.150
much but the way spider -man noir works that's

00:51:24.150 --> 00:51:26.710
exactly what he would want that's true moving

00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:29.309
dark and silence yeah i mean talking about his

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:31.789
performance it is great and it does stand out

00:51:31.789 --> 00:51:33.909
like the my favorite story from the production

00:51:33.909 --> 00:51:36.719
of this is one of the interviews where it's like

00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.539
yeah like on nicholas cage is like first day

00:51:38.539 --> 00:51:40.780
he did a couple line reads and kept getting notes

00:51:40.780 --> 00:51:42.320
and after like the third note he's like oh you

00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:47.719
just want me to go full cage oh so even he says

00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.880
full cage i love that he knows five million dollars

00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.820
a movie you may as well know how you're gonna

00:51:53.820 --> 00:51:55.840
get that do we know did he get five million for

00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:57.539
this one too i don't know i didn't even look

00:51:57.539 --> 00:51:59.219
up the budget for this one this time i think

00:51:59.219 --> 00:52:01.710
it was like three three dollars three dollars

00:52:01.710 --> 00:52:03.869
yeah they nailed it with that budget they really

00:52:03.869 --> 00:52:06.869
stretched it out they got their most for it yeah

00:52:06.869 --> 00:52:08.889
well i mean we kind of gave sean the sean in

00:52:08.889 --> 00:52:11.349
60 seconds thing i we were dorothy and i were

00:52:11.349 --> 00:52:13.230
sitting there watching i was like did lake bell

00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:15.670
did she even come for an hour for this movie

00:52:15.670 --> 00:52:19.690
like she did three lines as the wife i 10 minutes

00:52:19.690 --> 00:52:21.429
in and out and she probably got paid for a full

00:52:21.429 --> 00:52:24.989
hour i at least for a full hour good golly that's

00:52:24.989 --> 00:52:28.440
not easy the visuals of this whole i mean that's

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.699
what this movie really kind of originally sold

00:52:30.699 --> 00:52:34.039
itself on and happened to also just be the best

00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.960
one of the best spider -man movies ever um and

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.860
it's just it's so visually stunning i remember

00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:44.460
at one point sony was talking about trying to

00:52:44.460 --> 00:52:47.679
like trademark or trademark or copyright like

00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.239
the visual style of the film i don't think that

00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.659
played yeah i don't think you can do that but

00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.980
But I remember them wanting to do that. And just

00:52:56.980 --> 00:52:59.980
the producers, Lord and Miller, like the shit

00:52:59.980 --> 00:53:02.239
they're doing with cinema at this point, like

00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.099
just visually creative stuff. I just saw Project

00:53:05.099 --> 00:53:08.119
Hail Mary, so I want to talk about Rocky. Oh

00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.179
yeah, that was another really good movie. Very,

00:53:10.179 --> 00:53:13.280
very good movie. Also Lord and Miller produced,

00:53:13.460 --> 00:53:16.159
and I think they directed that one. uh yeah they

00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.960
also did the lego movie so like just oh it's

00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.679
kind of tied in that movie is pretty good too

00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.639
yeah they're tied in for like really great subversive

00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.500
visual storytelling well something different

00:53:27.500 --> 00:53:29.219
i mean that's what people always are commenting

00:53:29.219 --> 00:53:31.539
on with movies it's like something just a little

00:53:31.539 --> 00:53:33.860
bit different and that will still be amazing

00:53:33.860 --> 00:53:36.820
i want more of this story this could have stood

00:53:36.820 --> 00:53:39.159
by itself totally this could have been a one

00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.139
and done and not have to do anything else but

00:53:41.139 --> 00:53:43.420
i want more miles ross i want more of these characters

00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.599
I want more of the Nicolas Cage. I'm really looking

00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.440
forward to the live action. I watched the trailers

00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.840
for it last night just to kind of remind myself.

00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:52.699
It's going to be good. I honestly don't know

00:53:52.699 --> 00:53:54.159
if I want to watch it in color or black and white.

00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:56.300
I'm all black and white. Yeah, for sure. I'm

00:53:56.300 --> 00:53:59.099
sure at some point I'll watch it in true color.

00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.539
I'm going to watch each episode twice. I'm going

00:54:01.539 --> 00:54:03.059
to watch black and white and color because I

00:54:03.059 --> 00:54:04.480
want to be able to talk about both for the podcast.

00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.380
But I'm most excited for black and white. Me

00:54:07.380 --> 00:54:11.619
too. Yeah, it's so visually beautiful. I think

00:54:11.619 --> 00:54:13.460
the one thing that I wanted to say about this

00:54:13.460 --> 00:54:16.780
movie that I think stood out most to me as a

00:54:16.780 --> 00:54:19.079
real success is that Peter Parker's a fucking

00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.920
teenager, right? You follow him along, he gets

00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.639
a little bit older, but he's a kid. Usually,

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.880
Spider -Man is like a kid, and Morales is a perfect

00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.179
representation of that because instead of having

00:54:32.179 --> 00:54:34.539
a fucking 27 -year -old Tobey Maguire playing

00:54:34.539 --> 00:54:37.800
a high schooler, you've got... an animation you

00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.199
know I mean he looks like a kid he acts like

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.260
a kid he's awkward as fuck with a girl you know

00:54:41.260 --> 00:54:44.980
it's like it hits really well in a way that I

00:54:44.980 --> 00:54:46.860
think the other ones don't because you have to

00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:50.420
sort of suspend disbelief that like Andrew Garfield

00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:55.320
is like an awkward teenager oh eat shit Tom Holland

00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.199
said he was 16 I was like no well at the time

00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.500
Andrew Garfield was also older than toby mcguire

00:55:02.500 --> 00:55:04.679
was in his first spider -man movie right wow

00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.599
i didn't know that not every peter parker is

00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:11.280
also like the original like iteration of him

00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.380
wasn't like uh a bumbling nerd either so yeah

00:55:15.380 --> 00:55:18.880
different versions yeah but yeah i mean for some

00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:20.860
reason that always resonated with me that he's

00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:23.980
like a younger one he's not like a god or you

00:55:23.980 --> 00:55:26.519
know whatever an old you know billionaire who

00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:30.019
can build robot suits like the original portrayal

00:55:30.019 --> 00:55:33.059
of peter parker he was like he was he was kind

00:55:33.059 --> 00:55:36.320
of a dick yeah that's right he was a little snarky

00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.079
and he was just a dick he got beat up by flash

00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:40.699
and he was like you know i'll teach you one of

00:55:40.699 --> 00:55:43.300
these days i'll beat you like he was not like

00:55:43.300 --> 00:55:45.559
the funny charming talk his way out of it that

00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.980
we think of him now no he definitely had a chip

00:55:47.980 --> 00:55:51.239
on his shoulder yeah and i did like that that

00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.719
they were able to with all all all the spider

00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:55.949
people all had their little, like, quips and

00:55:55.949 --> 00:55:57.670
stuff along the way, which was nice for the character.

00:55:57.750 --> 00:55:58.969
And it's interesting, I didn't realize that he

00:55:58.969 --> 00:56:01.650
was kind of, maybe not a bully, but kind of a

00:56:01.650 --> 00:56:03.670
bully wannabe if he's, like, getting his butt

00:56:03.670 --> 00:56:05.369
whooped and then he's like, all right, oh, look,

00:56:05.429 --> 00:56:07.570
I have these powers. Take that, Flash. Like,

00:56:07.630 --> 00:56:10.429
I think of him as more of that lovable one -liner

00:56:10.429 --> 00:56:12.789
guy, right? You have a metal -armed dude, like,

00:56:12.869 --> 00:56:14.809
you know, in the middle of a fight, you're bringing

00:56:14.809 --> 00:56:17.909
that up. I was just looking at what other animated

00:56:17.909 --> 00:56:21.650
films came out in 2018 and kind of like that.

00:56:22.219 --> 00:56:25.400
uh divergence of style and like how vastly different

00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:27.199
it was than everything else because this was

00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.239
like the time of like Wreck -It Ralph and Smallfoot

00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.340
and a bunch of that style Incredibles 2 was another

00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:37.420
one so there wasn't a lot uh even like getting

00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:40.179
close to this sort of thing it was an art piece

00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:43.519
yes yeah yeah it definitely changed the animation

00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.739
game but the closest thing to now be the demon

00:56:46.739 --> 00:56:50.400
pop hunters are they k -pop demon hunters similar

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.780
they kind of run in i mean it's a similar art

00:56:52.780 --> 00:56:55.059
studio or the same art studio or like a branch

00:56:55.059 --> 00:56:58.099
of it yeah okay so i think that they they definitely

00:56:58.099 --> 00:57:00.739
understood the value of what they created and

00:57:00.739 --> 00:57:03.980
you know trying to recreate that is not going

00:57:03.980 --> 00:57:06.019
to be perfect yeah i think that that movie has

00:57:06.019 --> 00:57:09.260
some of the style and then mutant mayhem the

00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:12.420
oh yeah turtles movie not the same style but

00:57:12.420 --> 00:57:17.719
you can see that like it definitely uh yeah yeah

00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:20.099
yeah it's that appreciation of comic book art

00:57:20.099 --> 00:57:22.320
you know like in the style and that it all you

00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.260
can you can put this into a new medium and still

00:57:24.260 --> 00:57:26.940
have that that feeling which is i think really

00:57:26.940 --> 00:57:29.300
impressive watching this film again thinking

00:57:29.300 --> 00:57:32.880
about the second one i just i love how versatile

00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.360
they've made this character and how much they've

00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.739
done with this character over so many years and

00:57:36.739 --> 00:57:39.909
i just wanted to like discuss weird obscure spider

00:57:39.909 --> 00:57:43.489
-mans um my favorite from the peak 90s spider

00:57:43.489 --> 00:57:46.690
-man does anyone remember spider hulk no holy

00:57:46.690 --> 00:57:49.989
smokes it was a mini series where like spider

00:57:49.989 --> 00:57:52.829
-man got in a fight with the hulk uh and like

00:57:52.829 --> 00:57:55.650
gained hulk power so it's just it's just the

00:57:55.650 --> 00:57:58.449
hulk web swinging like in a tore -up spider -man

00:57:58.449 --> 00:58:01.960
costume It was terrible, but visually it was

00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.820
just spectacular. Well, we might get that next

00:58:04.820 --> 00:58:08.360
year with the new Tom Holland one. So maybe do

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.360
you. This is far more current, but like a rec

00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.219
rap or whatever from like a year or two ago.

00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:19.710
Yeah, that was weird. I had no idea. But yeah,

00:58:21.030 --> 00:58:23.849
there was some weird shit happening. Yeah, it

00:58:23.849 --> 00:58:25.730
was a weird one. You can slap the Spider -Man

00:58:25.730 --> 00:58:27.909
logo on something, it's going to move. I mean,

00:58:27.949 --> 00:58:29.789
I know it's from the next movie, but I really,

00:58:29.829 --> 00:58:32.090
really like Spider -Punk. Oh my gosh. I hope

00:58:32.090 --> 00:58:33.630
he's so fucking cool. I hope he's hella cool.

00:58:33.630 --> 00:58:36.090
I was so pumped I wasn't in this one. There was

00:58:36.090 --> 00:58:38.670
an era, this is when I kind of fell off comics

00:58:38.670 --> 00:58:40.690
because I was going to art school and I just

00:58:40.690 --> 00:58:42.230
didn't have the money for it. When they were

00:58:42.230 --> 00:58:44.869
doing the weekly Spider -Man series. it was after

00:58:44.869 --> 00:58:48.489
brand new day um but when they kind of like rewrote

00:58:48.489 --> 00:58:51.869
like spider -man's backstory and realized that

00:58:51.869 --> 00:58:55.809
like oh peter's like just as smart as tony stark

00:58:55.809 --> 00:58:57.670
they're like why doesn't peter start a company

00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:00.050
why doesn't peter have like actual stock tech

00:59:00.050 --> 00:59:03.340
level technology enterprises and stuff yeah and

00:59:03.340 --> 00:59:05.440
i'm talking i that's probably one of my favorite

00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.079
spider -man suits the kind of update to the iron

00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.400
spider where it looks like the red and blue but

00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:12.480
it is like more sleek and it has the glowing

00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:16.280
like big spider on the chest that's cool nice

00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.920
okay that's it alex ross designed oh alex ross

00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:23.900
dude that guy is just fucking crazy i think nick

00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:26.800
you and i've talked about like his pitches for

00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:29.239
like updated x -men suits and they're so good

00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.500
oh yeah i don't think they were ever used like

00:59:31.500 --> 00:59:35.019
no they weren't but i fucking love that cyclops

00:59:35.019 --> 00:59:38.280
that he did well it makes him look like uh more

00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:41.340
of the leader that he actually is like i i went

00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:43.079
off the movies and i was like oh he's kind of

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:44.780
whiny and stuff that's kind of weird and then

00:59:44.780 --> 00:59:46.860
i've had people who know marvel better than me

00:59:46.860 --> 00:59:48.900
say yeah that's not the best representation he's

00:59:48.900 --> 00:59:50.619
literally the leader of the x -men yeah yeah

00:59:50.619 --> 00:59:56.630
he's just a tactician like super yeah um my favorite

00:59:56.630 --> 00:59:59.690
cyclops thing is just like he doesn't have plan

00:59:59.690 --> 01:00:04.070
a plan b because that limits you to 26 so all

01:00:04.070 --> 01:00:06.929
of his plans are always like plan three or something

01:00:06.929 --> 01:00:11.110
like that so it's always in numerals not right

01:00:11.110 --> 01:00:14.010
uh the alphabet i like that yeah hold on scott

01:00:14.010 --> 01:00:16.670
all right any final thoughts on this one i feel

01:00:16.670 --> 01:00:19.489
like we've we've covered it pretty well but Yeah,

01:00:19.530 --> 01:00:21.630
we gave Cyclops just about as much time as we

01:00:21.630 --> 01:00:23.809
gave Nicolas Cage today. Oh, yeah, Bill, did

01:00:23.809 --> 01:00:25.429
you have a quote that you wanted to do? I think

01:00:25.429 --> 01:00:27.809
I've done all my quotes except for one, and it

01:00:27.809 --> 01:00:30.429
was during the final battle. Nicolas Cage, I

01:00:30.429 --> 01:00:32.369
can't remember which one he was fighting, but

01:00:32.369 --> 01:00:37.469
he said, you hard -boiled turtle slapper. Laughed

01:00:37.469 --> 01:00:39.949
out loud, looked it up. It's like, because, I

01:00:39.949 --> 01:00:41.570
mean, they even said in the thing I found, it

01:00:41.570 --> 01:00:43.349
kind of went for the Humphrey Bogart thing, and

01:00:43.349 --> 01:00:45.650
so he grabbed some lines from, like, the 30s,

01:00:45.650 --> 01:00:48.760
and I'm like, dude. So good. That's fantastic.

01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:51.380
I think it's also in that same scene. It's right

01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:53.059
before that where he's just like, we don't pick

01:00:53.059 --> 01:00:55.420
the ballroom. What is it? We don't pick the ballroom.

01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:01.019
We just dance. Yeah. That's the thing. Like you

01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:03.000
said, Sean, he was in it for five minutes and

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.519
40 seconds. He's still in a lot of ways. He's

01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.219
an impactful character. It's a really, really

01:01:08.219 --> 01:01:10.960
cool role for him. You know, if it is short.

01:01:11.059 --> 01:01:14.880
Of all the Spider -Mans, that is not Peter B.

01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:19.670
Parker. yes it's nicholas cage's spider noir

01:01:19.670 --> 01:01:23.650
and then maybe the next most memorable or talking

01:01:23.650 --> 01:01:26.429
about one spider ham yeah i think penny's the

01:01:26.429 --> 01:01:29.230
most forgettable oh i like penny but yeah i agree

01:01:29.230 --> 01:01:32.909
of that group still yeah yeah and gwen's gwen

01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.019
she's a favorite people love gwen um hard not

01:01:37.019 --> 01:01:41.119
to yeah killer costume cool story yeah yeah badass

01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.460
the dancing shoes too i thought that was a nice

01:01:43.460 --> 01:01:46.599
little spider gwen stacy spider uh spider woman

01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:52.000
has in my opinion the best venom suit oh yeah

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.179
that one is really cool yeah so if you haven't

01:01:54.179 --> 01:01:56.179
seen it it's the black and white but because

01:01:56.179 --> 01:01:59.380
uh she has the hood the hood is the mouth the

01:01:59.380 --> 01:02:02.760
serrated teeth around it that's pretty badass

01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:06.239
And like inner heads in it. It's so good. That's

01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.780
wonderful. I think throughout this podcast, we've

01:02:09.780 --> 01:02:12.320
actually just delivered all of Nick Cage's lines

01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.860
for the whole film. We probably did, actually.

01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.400
All right. Well, shit. That's it. So this one

01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.360
is going to come out. And then after that, we're

01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.619
going right into Spider Noir. So this is kind

01:02:24.619 --> 01:02:27.199
of a perfect parlay into that. And we're going

01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.559
to do a weekly set of episodes for that. It's

01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.019
going to be two of the show episodes at a time.

01:02:33.460 --> 01:02:35.460
Sean will have watched in color and black and

01:02:35.460 --> 01:02:39.239
white so we can get some feedback on the stylistic

01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.400
aspects of that choice. And I'm looking forward

01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.739
to that. It'll be a little interesting. To figure

01:02:44.739 --> 01:02:46.559
out how we're going to talk about it in a spoilery,

01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:49.139
not spoilery way. Probably spoilery. I think

01:02:49.139 --> 01:02:52.119
it's spoilers. Spoilery. Just go watch the show

01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:53.900
and then listen to us talk about the show. Yeah.

01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.000
Yeah. Sorry for everybody who watches one episode

01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:01.480
a week. Yeah. Pussies. If you don't want it spoiled

01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:04.480
for you, you got to go get on MGM plus or whatever

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.000
and watch it two days before us. There you go.

01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.760
That's the only way. All right. Thank you to

01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.400
our sparkle buddies, Josh, Josie, Matt, Adam,

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.820
Bill. Hello. Stuart and Willow and our cage dancers,

01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.159
John Freeman, Nathan and Cameron. Really appreciate

01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.099
the support. If anyone wants to, you can support

01:03:22.099 --> 01:03:25.139
us on Patreon. We're on some of the social medias,

01:03:25.139 --> 01:03:28.840
but we're pretty lazy. And we are going to be

01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.280
doing a showing of Con Air in Seattle on June

01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.019
27th. So come watch that movie with us. It's

01:03:36.019 --> 01:03:39.309
going to be. Great. At the Beacon Theater. At

01:03:39.309 --> 01:03:41.769
the Beacon Theater. Good old Beacon. And also

01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:43.849
thank you to Bill Panks for our intro music.

01:03:44.110 --> 01:03:55.510
And that's that. Bye. I'm Sean. Bye -bye. Bye

01:03:55.510 --> 01:03:55.750
-bye.