WEBVTT 00:00:01.810 --> 00:00:23.329 Oh, God. Oh, my God. And then some weird shit 00:00:23.329 --> 00:00:25.089 happened with this guy named Jose, which I'm 00:00:25.089 --> 00:00:27.929 not sure if you met. Different Jose? Not your 00:00:27.929 --> 00:00:30.410 host, not Josie. Different host. New guy. Newest 00:00:30.410 --> 00:00:32.869 member of the group. No longer with us in the 00:00:32.869 --> 00:00:35.750 group. That is because of death. For context, 00:00:35.850 --> 00:00:39.409 the Jose I knew his like pick up line move to 00:00:39.409 --> 00:00:40.909 talking to girls was telling the story about 00:00:40.909 --> 00:00:44.189 the one time he almost got chlamydia. Almost. 00:00:44.729 --> 00:00:51.729 Almost. Also, it proves you fuck. Yeah. And you're 00:00:51.729 --> 00:00:53.789 reckless. That was like we got it. That was his 00:00:53.789 --> 00:00:55.670 mindset. He was like, guys are totally going 00:00:55.670 --> 00:00:59.579 to think I'm experienced. I do anything. I do 00:00:59.579 --> 00:01:06.939 it all, baby. I fuck with that. That was before 00:01:06.939 --> 00:01:11.980 his time, like years in the future. I miss all 00:01:11.980 --> 00:01:14.780 of you. I got to come visit. Yeah, it's a mess. 00:01:14.900 --> 00:01:16.920 And we haven't really been cool ever since, basically. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.439 I do want to say, speaking of it's a mess, welcome 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:22.040 back to Cage Magical and Roundabout. I'm your 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.810 host, Sean, here with my... Now international 00:01:26.810 --> 00:01:32.329 co -host. Bathrobe Nick. I'm wearing a bathrobe. 00:01:32.390 --> 00:01:36.170 Nick is in a bathrobe. And our un -bathrobed 00:01:36.170 --> 00:01:38.730 producer. Peter, hello. I really feel like I 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:40.530 should go get a bathrobe, but I would have to 00:01:40.530 --> 00:01:44.269 go to the store. I don't own a bathrobe. I can 00:01:44.269 --> 00:01:48.159 just take one from Pete's room. We can just charge 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.239 Pete's room for a bath. Oh, absolutely. They 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.239 probably charge you like $150 for those fucking 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.780 things. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even say it's 00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:57.780 that nice of a bathrobe, but it feels good on 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:01.780 my bare flesh. Where do you get bare flesh? Welcoming... 00:02:01.780 --> 00:02:05.920 Where do you get bare flesh? Welcoming back to 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.060 the podcast my oldest friend that we've recently 00:02:10.060 --> 00:02:13.580 rediscovered, Chris Fields. Hey, how's it going, 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.699 everybody? I hope you guys are... I took notes 00:02:16.699 --> 00:02:19.840 on this thing, by the way. Oh, terrific. I'm 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:24.159 sorry. He got you back for a doozy. Yeah, this 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:28.460 movie. I was not prepared, bro. Okay, so this 00:02:28.460 --> 00:02:30.340 week on Cage Match, colon and roundabout, we're 00:02:30.340 --> 00:02:32.680 meeting Nicolas Cage. We are discussing the movie 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:37.159 Vengeance, colon, A Love Story. And it is... 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:40.930 Tongue in cheek. none of those things none of 00:02:40.930 --> 00:02:43.449 those things yes i mean i guess i mean it is 00:02:43.449 --> 00:02:45.810 it does have vengeance i suppose yeah it is a 00:02:45.810 --> 00:02:49.229 vengeance story there's a vengeance he's avenging 00:02:49.229 --> 00:02:53.150 someone he's not getting revenge himself you 00:02:53.150 --> 00:02:55.389 know that would be a revenge story all right 00:02:55.389 --> 00:02:57.889 so i introduced myself i am christopher fields 00:02:57.889 --> 00:03:00.310 like as sean said one of his oldest friends if 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:03.330 not the oldest i guess we agreed on um that i 00:03:03.330 --> 00:03:05.750 still talk to you yeah you still talk to me so 00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:09.270 it's i i won the race you're my black friend 00:03:09.270 --> 00:03:10.949 you're the one that keeps me from getting canceled 00:03:10.949 --> 00:03:16.710 happy to be of service i'm known internationally 00:03:16.710 --> 00:03:19.310 as hell pockets um i actually just got back from 00:03:19.310 --> 00:03:22.990 japan a couple weeks ago doing a gig for a dragon 00:03:22.990 --> 00:03:26.229 ball z mobile game world esports tournament which 00:03:26.229 --> 00:03:28.370 fuck yeah yeah it was awesome you know i had 00:03:28.370 --> 00:03:30.310 a great time ben dinamco flew me out there and 00:03:30.310 --> 00:03:32.270 they you know took care of me and it's a great 00:03:32.270 --> 00:03:34.650 time and then i came home with gout because all 00:03:34.650 --> 00:03:36.449 they had to eat out there is pork and noodles 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.400 That's so cool. The King's disease. Hey, what's 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.379 your favorite? What's your favorite way to get 00:03:42.379 --> 00:03:45.740 gout? Like what? Well, what's the meal of choice 00:03:45.740 --> 00:03:49.819 for a guy? Pork and noodles might be it. I think 00:03:49.819 --> 00:03:52.460 that's it. Yeah. Ramen, dude. Like I just cannot. 00:03:52.819 --> 00:03:56.400 I have to avoid eating ramen because if I don't 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.800 limit myself, I'll eat that every day. Right. 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:00.780 Yeah. Especially out there. I'll go out there. 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.979 I'll eat Mazatoba, which is like basically brothless 00:04:02.979 --> 00:04:06.000 ramen. And they just. put a bunch of oil on top 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.500 of it to simulate wet noodles. Just to lube it 00:04:09.500 --> 00:04:13.080 up for you. Just really slick it in. They lubed 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.060 up the noodles for me, bro. I had that for breakfast 00:04:16.060 --> 00:04:17.660 one day and my foot started hurting. I was like, 00:04:17.699 --> 00:04:25.279 oh shit, I totally deserve this. I'm a fighting 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:29.060 game analyst slash commentator slash former competitor, 00:04:29.180 --> 00:04:33.569 retired and brand ambassador for SNK. as well 00:04:33.569 --> 00:04:37.850 as their number one commentator. And on the side, 00:04:37.990 --> 00:04:39.889 I work for San Francisco State University in 00:04:39.889 --> 00:04:42.189 the psychology department. That's right. I forgot 00:04:42.189 --> 00:04:45.970 like the dichotomy of your life is really interesting. 00:04:47.810 --> 00:04:50.310 I do a little bit of everything, you know. Well, 00:04:50.310 --> 00:04:52.230 right on. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. 00:04:52.250 --> 00:04:54.170 Sorry. Sorry. It's not as good a movie as last 00:04:54.170 --> 00:04:56.430 time, because last time it was we watched Mandy 00:04:56.430 --> 00:04:59.730 with you, didn't we? Yes, we watched Mandy. And, 00:04:59.750 --> 00:05:02.970 you know, I'll actually say that there was. And 00:05:02.970 --> 00:05:05.889 it's probably because it's Nick Cage. But there 00:05:05.889 --> 00:05:11.110 was the subtle level of discomfort that exists 00:05:11.110 --> 00:05:13.310 in that movie kind of is present here as well. 00:05:13.769 --> 00:05:16.189 Yeah, you're not wrong. It's a pretty uncomfortable 00:05:16.189 --> 00:05:19.730 movie overall. Yeah, no, straight up. So you 00:05:19.730 --> 00:05:22.350 get the honor of giving us a quick rundown of 00:05:22.350 --> 00:05:25.910 the plot for this movie. Don't miss anything. 00:05:26.569 --> 00:05:29.569 Admittedly, I go into this. And I'm like, hey, 00:05:29.670 --> 00:05:32.069 you know, this is another Nick Cage straight 00:05:32.069 --> 00:05:34.269 to streaming platform or possibly just straight 00:05:34.269 --> 00:05:35.990 to DVD because I don't know how old this movie 00:05:35.990 --> 00:05:40.129 is. 2017. 2017. It was a direct release, though. 00:05:40.470 --> 00:05:43.269 Brought to us by our friends at Patriot Pictures. 00:05:44.310 --> 00:05:47.310 Patriot Pictures. Well, I got to give it to them 00:05:47.310 --> 00:05:50.810 because immediately out the gate, I think this 00:05:50.810 --> 00:05:52.970 is like, you know, we're going to Steven Seagal's 00:05:52.970 --> 00:05:54.610 here, you know, straight to DVD. We're like, 00:05:54.730 --> 00:05:57.649 he's just in a freaking bar. And some young hot 00:05:57.649 --> 00:05:59.250 chase just happens to sit next to them. And he's 00:05:59.250 --> 00:06:01.829 like, I've got no business being anywhere near 00:06:01.829 --> 00:06:03.410 you, but you are clearly about to make a move 00:06:03.410 --> 00:06:05.310 on me. And I'm like, Oh God, here we go. But 00:06:05.310 --> 00:06:07.870 they circumvented my expectations by nothing 00:06:07.870 --> 00:06:10.889 coming from that whatsoever. Yeah, it's true. 00:06:10.990 --> 00:06:13.250 It just serves to prove that she's the town. 00:06:13.329 --> 00:06:15.569 Other than that, he knows that she's a nice girl. 00:06:15.769 --> 00:06:21.410 Yeah. That's what she's known for. Her manners. 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.019 I just want to like from from the word go him 00:06:26.019 --> 00:06:29.500 meeting her in the bar seven months before everything 00:06:29.500 --> 00:06:33.180 happens is somehow weirder than if he was just 00:06:33.180 --> 00:06:35.720 like a loose cop on the edge who was sick of 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:37.819 crime in his city. Yeah. Like him having that 00:06:37.819 --> 00:06:41.800 like one previous like connection with her just 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.560 makes it so much more like uncomfortable and 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.790 insidious his like his role in this film. You 00:06:47.790 --> 00:06:49.870 have to think about what led up to that moment, 00:06:49.910 --> 00:06:51.689 too, because I did skip some stuff on purpose 00:06:51.689 --> 00:06:54.370 because what we're not talking about, we are 00:06:54.370 --> 00:06:58.290 now. But this guy's cop, the opening scene is 00:06:58.290 --> 00:07:00.689 him just doing gun practice. I expected him to 00:07:00.689 --> 00:07:02.569 do a behind the back shot at a certain point 00:07:02.569 --> 00:07:04.790 because Dool was hitting 100 percent in the market. 00:07:04.829 --> 00:07:07.649 I'm like, oh, God, like he's a marksman. He can't 00:07:07.649 --> 00:07:10.430 miss. He's going to kill everybody in the neighborhood. 00:07:10.430 --> 00:07:12.930 Everybody knows that the real elites are vets 00:07:12.930 --> 00:07:17.610 of the Gulf War. Gulf War vet. elite of the elite 00:07:17.610 --> 00:07:20.009 i guess that was supposed to be implied by the 00:07:20.009 --> 00:07:22.430 fact that he had excellent trigger control like 00:07:22.430 --> 00:07:24.730 he had great trigger uh discipline that's what 00:07:24.730 --> 00:07:27.589 they call it trigger discipline um because they 00:07:27.589 --> 00:07:29.769 did the thing where like the uh the target turns 00:07:29.769 --> 00:07:31.949 to the side and you're just like don't shoot 00:07:31.949 --> 00:07:34.629 at the target when it's turned sideways like 00:07:34.629 --> 00:07:36.370 if anybody's turned sideways don't shoot them 00:07:36.370 --> 00:07:38.269 my first three notes from the beginning of this 00:07:38.269 --> 00:07:41.689 film the copaganda is strong niagara falls the 00:07:41.689 --> 00:07:47.079 most dangerous city and big man bigger gun Huge 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.699 gun has the dirty, hairy pistol. I do love in 00:07:50.699 --> 00:07:52.480 that scene where he's shooting the targets. He 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.019 starts off with like a tiny little like snub 00:07:55.019 --> 00:07:57.300 nose and then immediately picks up the giant 00:07:57.300 --> 00:07:59.699 gun. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He goes through the whole 00:07:59.699 --> 00:08:01.720 gamut of guns. Why do you think Nick Cage likes 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:04.360 being a cop so much? Because he doesn't like 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.819 the consequences of his actions. I would say 00:08:07.819 --> 00:08:11.060 it's because he hasn't perfected the art of acting 00:08:11.060 --> 00:08:13.180 as a cop yet because he's done like the full 00:08:13.180 --> 00:08:15.810 gamut of. kind of cops you could be in a movie. 00:08:16.050 --> 00:08:19.290 He's been a lot of cops. He's been the meter 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:21.050 maid. He's been a parking attendant, hasn't he? 00:08:21.850 --> 00:08:24.910 Nicolas Cage is the meter maid. Was he ever a 00:08:24.910 --> 00:08:29.110 parking attendant? Fuck. I swear he was a traffic 00:08:29.110 --> 00:08:31.529 cop in one of these movies. I think we're thinking 00:08:31.529 --> 00:08:33.590 of It Could Happen to You where he was just a 00:08:33.590 --> 00:08:36.690 beat cop. Maybe. Was that the one with the lottery 00:08:36.690 --> 00:08:40.370 ticket? Yeah, in Wicker Man he was a chips cop. 00:08:41.389 --> 00:08:46.679 Wicker Man. Then he was a Boston cop in Sorcerer's 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.139 Apprentice. A couple of times. Yeah, a couple 00:08:49.139 --> 00:08:51.580 of times. A New Orleans cop in Bad Lieutenant, 00:08:51.820 --> 00:08:55.120 Port of Call, New Orleans. He was a fireman. 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:59.399 That doesn't count in 9 -11. Because firemen 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.240 are cool. A detective in the Frozen Ground. That 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.980 came up just last night, I think, actually. In 00:09:04.980 --> 00:09:09.399 terms of cops he's played, I would argue this 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.419 is the worst cop he's played. it's definitely 00:09:12.419 --> 00:09:17.519 the nothingness define define what yeah he basically 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.039 isn't a cop he just gets to have a gun this is 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.639 the worst cop he's played in that he openly ignores 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.799 violent crime so he can later kill people that 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:28.460 sounds pretty cool he sounds like a seattle cop 00:09:28.460 --> 00:09:35.500 one cat hanging and then when dude gets uh his 00:09:35.500 --> 00:09:38.279 head smashed through a car window just we'd have 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.850 the excuse to shoot the guy a second later Yeah. 00:09:40.850 --> 00:09:44.370 So, OK, fair warning for anybody. This movie 00:09:44.370 --> 00:09:49.149 is about a this movie is about a brutal sexual 00:09:49.149 --> 00:09:54.549 assault witnessed by a 12 year old girl and also 00:09:54.549 --> 00:09:58.029 a animal murder and also a bunch of human murders. 00:09:58.090 --> 00:10:01.870 But they're bad guys, so it's OK. Right. It's 00:10:01.870 --> 00:10:06.580 got Don Johnson. Yeah, man, I just that. bro 00:10:06.580 --> 00:10:08.820 so i have a note i have a note on that where 00:10:08.820 --> 00:10:11.019 i'm like has don johnson ever played a character 00:10:11.019 --> 00:10:14.159 that wasn't a piece of shit oh i was thinking 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.840 has don johnson ever played somebody who isn't 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:21.200 hella cool johnny miami vice miami vice he was 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.200 kind of like he's a he's a still a miami cop 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.320 you know yeah which i mean let's be upfront cops 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.480 are pieces of shit but with that sick ass oversized 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.899 blazer You know he was definitely partaking of 00:10:33.899 --> 00:10:36.039 the freaking evidence though, right? There's 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:38.379 no way they're cruising around like that 24 -7 00:10:38.379 --> 00:10:41.559 like, I can't live without my bump, bro. Come 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.340 on. Let's go bust these bad guys. I got a real 00:10:45.340 --> 00:10:47.960 itch. We got to go. We got to thwart some crime 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.519 today. I think that and like Nash Bridges were 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.120 the only time he was like a good guy. I forgot 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.639 about Nash Bridges. Nash Bridges, bro. There 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.649 you go. OK, so let's see. So it starts off Nick 00:10:59.649 --> 00:11:02.230 Cage. He's driving with his buddy, his cop buddy, 00:11:02.309 --> 00:11:04.830 who makes the initial mistake of explaining that 00:11:04.830 --> 00:11:07.250 he's going to propose to his wife or his hopefully 00:11:07.250 --> 00:11:10.570 soon to be wife. You're dead. I just love how 00:11:10.570 --> 00:11:12.950 so much of this movie was taken in like initial 00:11:12.950 --> 00:11:16.870 shots, just like the guy pulling out the ring 00:11:16.870 --> 00:11:18.909 and he pulls it out upside down and like has 00:11:18.909 --> 00:11:21.149 to flip the box around. It's like, yeah, that's 00:11:21.149 --> 00:11:23.129 good enough for this take. We're not going to 00:11:23.129 --> 00:11:26.279 get back to this guy ever again. No, his partner 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.259 definitely had I had two weeks to retirement 00:11:28.259 --> 00:11:31.919 vibes written all over him. Yeah. I don't understand 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.120 why he was being so cold to him in the first 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.840 20 seconds. He's like, hey, bro, do you want 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:38.000 some of these snacks I'm eating? And he doesn't 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.679 even verbally just respond to him. He doesn't 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.899 even look at him. Like Nick Cage is like completely 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:46.960 disgusted by his partner. I can't believe you 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:51.490 eat that shit, bro. You deserve to die. So he 00:11:51.490 --> 00:11:55.769 dies. Oh, and Nicolas Cage, why does he die? 00:11:55.929 --> 00:11:59.350 But like the ring falls out of his pocket or 00:11:59.350 --> 00:12:01.330 whatever. And Nick Cage tucks it back in. Like 00:12:01.330 --> 00:12:05.269 what a fucking worthless thing to capture on 00:12:05.269 --> 00:12:11.190 film. This is so stupid. So Nick Cage and his 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:16.149 partner are trying to track a criminal in a neighborhood. 00:12:16.590 --> 00:12:19.639 The guy's like walking to his car. They like 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.399 just speed up on him. The guy gets in his van 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:27.779 and I'm pretty sure they ram him. Like the thing 00:12:27.779 --> 00:12:30.620 guy pops out of, are you saying cops are bad? 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.460 A hundred percent. He's playing the worst cop 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:38.580 in his career. I did not realize, I didn't realize 00:12:38.580 --> 00:12:40.399 till later on in this film, what side of Niagara 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.720 falls this took place on. So I'm like, this is 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.639 a lot of like, this is a lot of guns for Canada. 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.429 Oh yeah. No, straight up. Like I was like, damn, 00:12:48.549 --> 00:12:50.750 this is freaking dirty out there. I'm never going 00:12:50.750 --> 00:12:53.110 to Canada. They call this a door spotlight. All 00:12:53.110 --> 00:12:54.649 right. This is, this is going to paint me in 00:12:54.649 --> 00:12:57.669 a bad light, which is why I asked my, why I asked 00:12:57.669 --> 00:13:00.090 fields on this, uh, podcast, because we only 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:02.970 get the partner in the beginning of the film. 00:13:03.230 --> 00:13:08.529 There's later another cop who is bald and has 00:13:08.529 --> 00:13:11.070 melanin. And because they're about an hour apart, 00:13:11.190 --> 00:13:12.450 I couldn't tell if they were the same person. 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:22.549 no he's married now it's great great i'm glad 00:13:22.549 --> 00:13:24.490 he survived they just asked the actor to grow 00:13:24.490 --> 00:13:26.990 a beard and play a second role it's like i don't 00:13:26.990 --> 00:13:29.049 know we got you for like two weeks right nick 00:13:29.049 --> 00:13:33.370 cage kills a criminal next scene hero cop in 00:13:33.370 --> 00:13:36.289 a bar after three months of desk duty because 00:13:36.289 --> 00:13:40.169 he got shot meets the girl tina with the dumbest 00:13:40.169 --> 00:13:43.370 spelling ever The next so the next scene is seven 00:13:43.370 --> 00:13:45.009 months later with Tina at her new boyfriend. 00:13:45.149 --> 00:13:47.409 I didn't realize there was any shift in time 00:13:47.409 --> 00:13:49.730 in this movie. I was just watching it and I was 00:13:49.730 --> 00:13:51.950 like, this is just all happening immediately. 00:13:52.029 --> 00:13:55.450 They did not do a good job. Yeah. Was there was 00:13:55.450 --> 00:13:57.970 there any like last month and it was in like 00:13:57.970 --> 00:14:00.570 April or whatever? So that was it was in September. 00:14:01.269 --> 00:14:03.250 Like, yeah, that's right. The here thing was 00:14:03.250 --> 00:14:04.850 in September. It had been three months and then 00:14:04.850 --> 00:14:07.210 and then it was the 4th of July. This is not 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:10.399 the kind of movie that I. They shouldn't be asking 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.480 you to pay attention to the story. They should 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.000 be spoon feeding these kind of things to you 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.039 in this movie. There's no reason that I should 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.240 have to look at a newspaper to figure out what 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:23.740 day it is. Seven months later. Most of a pregnancy 00:14:23.740 --> 00:14:26.700 later. Let's go. I legit thought it was all the 00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:30.289 same day. I thought so too. like the way they 00:14:30.289 --> 00:14:33.789 played that like it was all the same day this 00:14:33.789 --> 00:14:35.870 dude's hard as fuck he just got shot and now 00:14:35.870 --> 00:14:38.590 he's gonna go out here and just the interaction 00:14:38.590 --> 00:14:42.789 the interaction that yeah exactly like the the 00:14:42.789 --> 00:14:45.789 interaction that he has with tina in the bar 00:14:45.789 --> 00:14:48.990 um i'll say i was surprised that it did not go 00:14:48.990 --> 00:14:50.710 in the direction that it was obviously leaning 00:14:50.710 --> 00:14:52.690 in and so i thought that was kind of nice and 00:14:52.690 --> 00:14:56.879 you know sweet of the um director or the writers 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.820 to be like yeah you know we're not gonna make 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:01.120 this it's not that kind of story you mean they 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.519 weren't gonna shoehorn a backseat handy into 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.220 this movie you'd assume based on the title that 00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:11.899 tina and nick cage's character would uh be the 00:15:11.899 --> 00:15:16.450 colon a love story of this movie it's not I think 00:15:16.450 --> 00:15:19.169 the love story is about shooting bad guys. After 00:15:19.169 --> 00:15:22.289 the 4th of July party, Tina walking her daughter 00:15:22.289 --> 00:15:26.350 home, trying to bond over their shared trauma 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:29.830 over losing Tina's husband. What is the daughter's 00:15:29.830 --> 00:15:33.850 name? Bethy? Bethany? Bethel? Bethel? Her name 00:15:33.850 --> 00:15:36.190 is Bethel, but they call her Bethy. Bethy, there 00:15:36.190 --> 00:15:40.169 we go, yeah. Bethel. Bethel was the name of my 00:15:40.169 --> 00:15:44.259 first car. Really? That's a car's name, bro. 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:48.559 I've never met a Bethel. It was a Nissan Quest. 00:15:48.659 --> 00:15:52.139 It was a minivan. You bet it was. That's a total 00:15:52.139 --> 00:15:56.419 Bethel. Absolutely. Bethel in the movie, totally 00:15:56.419 --> 00:16:00.679 not car size, though. That's why it made it more 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.700 confusing that her mom was like, hey, let's take 00:16:03.700 --> 00:16:07.080 this shortcut. The mom wants to walk her through 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:09.919 the park where she hung out as a teen. There 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.889 happened to be some... unsavory characters there 00:16:12.889 --> 00:16:20.049 total shit bags yeah who who do a needless rape 00:16:20.049 --> 00:16:22.830 what's needless about this scene is how long 00:16:22.830 --> 00:16:26.590 it fucking goes on it is entirely it it verges 00:16:26.590 --> 00:16:29.970 on torture porn it is gross it's unnecessary 00:16:29.970 --> 00:16:35.230 it lingers on the maybe dead body of a pantsless 00:16:35.230 --> 00:16:39.220 bloodied woman for way too long I want to, I 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:41.399 want to, I want to side note this by pointing 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.940 out that I started watching this movie at work 00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:50.159 in the office. That's a weird flex. It's like, 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:51.960 Hey guys, I'm going to watch this. No headphones. 00:16:52.139 --> 00:16:55.559 Nobody talked to me. No, I'm just saying like 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.980 when it started happening, I was like, I was 00:16:57.980 --> 00:16:59.340 like, Oh man, they're really good. Oh, they're 00:16:59.340 --> 00:17:00.600 really, they're really, they're really, Oh my 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.859 God, man. it's brutal i mean the girl she has 00:17:04.859 --> 00:17:06.559 to watch the whole thing happen and that one 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.519 guy is like slamming on the the cage area that 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.140 she climbs into it's fucking anything with kids 00:17:13.140 --> 00:17:15.759 in danger in particular always gets me like really 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.180 fucking angry and stressed out you know when 00:17:19.180 --> 00:17:21.079 you started talking about slamming on the cage 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:27.400 i just thought uh cyrus the virus that was that 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.640 was not the energy that this scene brought at 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.680 all it was not yeah no the them bringing tina 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.559 into the boathouse by her hair they could have 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.160 just slammed the door there and that would have 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.920 been one a much more like powerful cinematic 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.559 piece it together what happened but no they they 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.119 go for it and they did not need to no it was 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.859 a lot of grotesque uh whatnot my note at this 00:17:51.859 --> 00:17:55.000 point was man fuck this movie yeah i think the 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.700 only thing i got from that scene was just like 00:17:56.700 --> 00:17:59.160 okay they're That's the kind of movie this is 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.220 going to be, right? This is what the producer 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:03.819 and director decided they would put on film. 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.180 And the thing that bothered me about it was that 00:18:06.180 --> 00:18:08.940 then I tried to like, it's hard to say, right? 00:18:09.019 --> 00:18:12.299 Like you watch a lot of SVU and I felt like I 00:18:12.299 --> 00:18:14.779 was watching the extended episode of SVU after 00:18:14.779 --> 00:18:16.259 that. That's a great way of putting it. Yeah. 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.579 It's got its court part. It's got its like crime 00:18:19.579 --> 00:18:22.730 part. It's got the cop shit. Yeah, it's. it feels 00:18:22.730 --> 00:18:24.470 like that, but way too long. It felt like they 00:18:24.470 --> 00:18:27.269 left the rape scene in because they needed to 00:18:27.269 --> 00:18:30.029 pad out the minutes on the film. They like, they're 00:18:30.029 --> 00:18:32.690 like, Oh, we promised we'd get it over an hour 00:18:32.690 --> 00:18:38.049 32. And here we are like an hour 30. Well, back 00:18:38.049 --> 00:18:40.289 when fields and I were, uh, when back when fields 00:18:40.289 --> 00:18:42.309 and I used to hang out with Kevin at my, uh, 00:18:42.369 --> 00:18:45.529 my place when I was 19. Yeah. 19 year old, give 00:18:45.529 --> 00:18:47.529 a 19 year old house. See how that, uh, winds 00:18:47.529 --> 00:18:50.289 up. But, uh, we used to be, uh, Kevin and I used 00:18:50.289 --> 00:18:53.950 to like, watch rescue me on dvd which had added 00:18:53.950 --> 00:18:56.190 sexual content which just meant more side boob 00:18:56.190 --> 00:18:59.809 um this feels like an episode of svu with added 00:18:59.809 --> 00:19:02.329 sexual content like they'd straight up we're 00:19:02.329 --> 00:19:04.650 just like well since we're on hbo guys let's 00:19:04.650 --> 00:19:09.309 go for it here's a little more side boob okay 00:19:09.309 --> 00:19:14.130 yeah so then um bethy you know identifies the 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.990 creepos and they round them up uh then we get 00:19:17.990 --> 00:19:22.480 introduced to the creepos parents which uh one 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:23.960 of my favorite characters from this movie is 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.500 the dad who just he's a total piece of shit but 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:29.960 also has some of the funniest lines to me and 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.119 his reactions to everything are just like so 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.759 perfect this guy looks just like the singer for 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.460 iron maiden bro you're not wrong that's i was 00:19:37.460 --> 00:19:40.579 like what the hell he also was in a movie with 00:19:40.579 --> 00:19:42.839 uh he was in a movie with cage we just watched 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:46.759 recently uh he played that guy sideburns um in 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:50.789 uh seeking justice the guy pierce one oh really 00:19:50.789 --> 00:19:53.309 the guy who didn't have sideburns wasn't he like 00:19:53.309 --> 00:19:55.910 bald headed or something sideburns was bald and 00:19:55.910 --> 00:19:57.730 he was exactly he had no sideburns at all and 00:19:57.730 --> 00:20:02.609 he just had his nickname was sideburns um but 00:20:02.609 --> 00:20:04.190 yeah that dad there's the lawyer scene where 00:20:04.190 --> 00:20:06.480 they're talking to don johnson and He's like, 00:20:06.539 --> 00:20:07.920 OK, it's going to cost this much money. They 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.759 got to put up their house, whatever. And the 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:11.839 dad is like, OK, so wait, we pay you twice because 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:14.539 it's two sons. But they're charged with the same 00:20:14.539 --> 00:20:17.740 crime. So one story, like a woman has two babies. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.099 They ain't twice as much work. She does the same 00:20:20.099 --> 00:20:21.900 thing for both. That's why she's got two tits, 00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:26.500 right? That was brilliant. I also want to say, 00:20:26.539 --> 00:20:29.599 like, they get the lawyer recommended to them 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:34.259 through their priest. Yeah. Creepy priest, too. 00:20:35.029 --> 00:20:37.329 this lawyer is recommended by the priest because 00:20:37.329 --> 00:20:39.349 this is the lawyer the Vatican calls when they 00:20:39.349 --> 00:20:42.029 have trouble. Undertone, this is the lawyer they 00:20:42.029 --> 00:20:45.789 call for child rape. He seems like a bad guy. 00:20:46.109 --> 00:20:47.430 Yeah, they're all bad guys. There's a ton of 00:20:47.430 --> 00:20:49.710 good stuff going on here, right? Like a ton of 00:20:49.710 --> 00:20:52.630 people just making an honest living. Don Johnson's 00:20:52.630 --> 00:20:55.089 court scene is the most just like, one, he would 00:20:55.089 --> 00:20:56.710 have been kicked out immediately because like, 00:20:56.730 --> 00:20:59.789 he keeps walking behind the desk, behind the 00:20:59.789 --> 00:21:01.990 daughter, like when he's giving his open statement 00:21:01.990 --> 00:21:07.019 and like, the actual like prosecutor is like 00:21:07.019 --> 00:21:09.700 you know objecting to all this shit and the judge 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:12.140 is like that's fine he's a good old boy he can 00:21:12.140 --> 00:21:14.740 like creep on the 12 year old during his opening 00:21:14.740 --> 00:21:17.559 statements oh my god man i was i was actually 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.859 pissed about that but okay so you're right the 00:21:19.859 --> 00:21:22.000 courtroom stuff is so funny to me because also 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.299 it's like they suddenly are in a trial like for 00:21:24.299 --> 00:21:26.440 no reason well because it was supposed to be 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.839 just the arraignment where she identifies them 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:35.039 but John Johnson like finagles it to be like 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.119 the opening statements to try and get power. 00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:40.099 But he's also good old friends with the judge. 00:21:40.299 --> 00:21:42.500 So we're supposed to see we're supposed to see 00:21:42.500 --> 00:21:45.779 that every level of the process is corrupt. Like 00:21:45.779 --> 00:21:48.859 they paint Tina as a whore because she's a widow 00:21:48.859 --> 00:21:52.079 and, you know, has had some boyfriends over the 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.819 years. The whole thing is disgusting. Like it 00:21:54.819 --> 00:21:57.819 really upset me. It is. And one of the things 00:21:57.819 --> 00:22:00.160 I was like, OK, so the rapist is sitting there 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.309 like. on display and as tina's walking up to 00:22:03.309 --> 00:22:08.369 be put into the the stand he goes tina tina it's 00:22:08.369 --> 00:22:10.769 like what the fuck are you doing dude yeah is 00:22:10.769 --> 00:22:13.509 that not intimidating to witness like what are 00:22:13.509 --> 00:22:16.190 we talking about it's being a super ass creep 00:22:16.190 --> 00:22:19.829 yeah also so and the defense attorney says that 00:22:19.829 --> 00:22:22.730 there's no lack of dna evidence so the defense 00:22:22.730 --> 00:22:25.079 attorney's like yeah They all had sex with her, 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.279 but she sold herself to them and then raised 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.099 the price afterwards that attacked them. So they 00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:31.779 were defending themselves by beating her to near 00:22:31.779 --> 00:22:35.819 death. That's more than like self -defense. It's 00:22:35.819 --> 00:22:37.480 more than self -defense. And so they actually 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.440 did something that was very subtle, but I like 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:44.700 that they did it because even though it looked 00:22:44.700 --> 00:22:47.440 like they had. the gallery on their side and 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:49.599 they were likely going to get the jury on their 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.660 side about the rape stuff the assault side was 00:22:52.660 --> 00:22:54.480 indefensible they were probably going to eat 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:56.519 three years on that that's something that they 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:58.319 brought up later on when they were talking about 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.180 cutting a deal and avoiding the actual trial 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.859 portion because he was just like because don 00:23:03.859 --> 00:23:05.160 johnson's character told them straight up like 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.920 look guys this goes to jury you're probably still 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:10.940 going to eat shit on this you know right there's 00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:13.279 probably something like they did too much you 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.759 know they're roughed up a little too much Right. 00:23:15.859 --> 00:23:17.960 And there's there's always the chance at a jury 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:19.579 trial that they're going to go the wrong way 00:23:19.579 --> 00:23:22.940 for you. Exactly. Exactly. And I think he based 00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:25.460 on the fact that, you know, she was a very sympathetic 00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:28.660 witness. So I had to watch this movie and starts 00:23:28.660 --> 00:23:31.140 and stops because the court scene, like the rape 00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:33.920 scene was just gratuitous. The court scene just 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.839 upset me so much because the judge clearly doesn't 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:42.750 care about what's happened, like is just. outwardly 00:23:42.750 --> 00:23:45.809 rude to tina and then when don johnson's giving 00:23:45.809 --> 00:23:48.750 his big opening statement and the whole gallery 00:23:48.750 --> 00:23:50.269 starts clapping and cheering and standing up 00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:52.970 the judge doesn't call order and only calls order 00:23:52.970 --> 00:23:56.789 when tina has a mental breakdown a mental breakdown 00:23:56.789 --> 00:23:59.549 yeah that judge sucks so it's just like this 00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:01.890 whole thing was just disgusting so we're supposed 00:24:01.890 --> 00:24:04.970 to see how this like is flawed on every level 00:24:04.970 --> 00:24:08.369 so it requires like nick cage take things into 00:24:08.369 --> 00:24:11.390 his own hands but It doesn't ever build on that. 00:24:11.470 --> 00:24:14.809 Like every, no, every 15 minutes, like the tone 00:24:14.809 --> 00:24:17.650 of this film kind of changes. That's, that's 00:24:17.650 --> 00:24:19.630 a good way to put it. And this is what I was 00:24:19.630 --> 00:24:22.049 talking about post rape scene where the tone 00:24:22.049 --> 00:24:25.029 dramatically tried to shift back to, well, this 00:24:25.029 --> 00:24:26.750 is what we were dealing with earlier. You know? 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:31.470 I mean, the fact that after it's over, Nick Cage's 00:24:31.470 --> 00:24:33.269 character just happens to be driving along the 00:24:33.269 --> 00:24:36.750 road where this occurred. Right. Yeah. The circumstances 00:24:36.750 --> 00:24:39.289 of that. Finds Bethel, right? Like, it's just 00:24:39.289 --> 00:24:41.849 like, what are we doing? Like, what kind of movie 00:24:41.849 --> 00:24:44.869 is this? Well, and then, so later, Tina gets 00:24:44.869 --> 00:24:48.609 brought home, gets brought home, is recovering, 00:24:48.829 --> 00:24:50.750 well, to her mom's place. Her mom's a piece of 00:24:50.750 --> 00:24:54.829 shit. Yeah, she sucks. But Bethy gets home, is 00:24:54.829 --> 00:24:57.809 looking for the cat. One of the criminals kills 00:24:57.809 --> 00:25:00.210 the cat and hangs it on her front porch for Bethy 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:03.410 to see. Yeah, that was fucked up. Nick Cage drives 00:25:03.410 --> 00:25:07.289 by, is a cop, drives by, sees the car, pull away. 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.500 There has to be a restraining order at this point. 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.960 Pull away, drives by, sees the hanging cat and 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.099 little girl doesn't stop. Doesn't pull that guy 00:25:16.099 --> 00:25:19.339 over. This is why I say he's actively ignoring 00:25:19.339 --> 00:25:22.079 their crime so he can murder them later. When 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.579 it was like, it's all, it's just, it's all uncomfortable. 00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:30.720 It is. It's, it's weird. Am I tripping or was 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.680 that all the same day? Like he literally just 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.049 left the house after bringing. no because she's 00:25:36.049 --> 00:25:38.930 coming home from a thing school the time the 00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:41.490 time frame and it's very choppy it's jumped around 00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:43.990 a lot it jumped around so but he just happened 00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:45.789 to be there right and he's wearing like the freaking 00:25:45.789 --> 00:25:47.950 leather jacket like staking the house out for 00:25:47.950 --> 00:25:50.650 whatever reason and then sees the guy do that 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.079 I do like how he gets a crime jacket when he 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.299 decides to take the matters into his own hands. 00:25:55.500 --> 00:25:57.380 I had a note where I said, how come he's dressed 00:25:57.380 --> 00:26:00.140 like Ghost Rider now? Like, what the hell? For 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:03.140 vengeance. Vengeance, excuse me. Yeah, exactly. 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.140 Spirit of vengeance, dog. Okay, so Tina, in her 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:09.059 meltdown, like, is like, I'm gonna kill myself. 00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:11.180 She just is standing on the edge of Niagara Falls. 00:26:11.539 --> 00:26:13.640 Can people just stand on the fucking edge of 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.230 that thing? Can you just like guardrails? Right. 00:26:16.269 --> 00:26:18.430 You would think there would be, if nothing else, 00:26:18.450 --> 00:26:21.049 a little basic ass guardrail. Cause like, obviously 00:26:21.049 --> 00:26:22.750 this comes into play later for the vengeance. 00:26:23.289 --> 00:26:26.089 Um, but like, I just was looking at that. I was 00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:29.769 like, that seems really unsafe. I jumped into 00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:31.250 Niagara falls. You know what? I thought about 00:26:31.250 --> 00:26:33.930 that. I was watching that scene and they did 00:26:33.930 --> 00:26:37.009 the shot of her looking down into it. And I flashed 00:26:37.009 --> 00:26:38.609 back to that Superman scene where the kid just 00:26:38.609 --> 00:26:41.130 fucking falls into the waterfall. Yeah. Oh yeah. 00:26:41.269 --> 00:26:44.640 I'm just like, yeah, that could happen. But Superman 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.740 took place in the 70s. Yeah, well, they didn't 00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:50.680 care about seatbelts, right? Yeah. Makes sense. 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.359 Niagara Falls is hard like that, though. Hard 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.099 as hell, man. Like, I had no idea that it was 00:26:56.099 --> 00:26:59.000 so hood in Niagara Falls, man. Oh, yeah, the 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.500 city? Man. Bro, Bethel gets ran up on in the 00:27:02.500 --> 00:27:05.039 ice cream shop? Like, what the fuck? Dude, that 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.740 girl, like, fucking, what an asshole. Wow. Well, 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.259 during the opening credits, all, like, the, like, 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.579 gangs run amok, like. Of Niagara Falls, the most 00:27:14.579 --> 00:27:17.700 dangerous city in America. That has taken over. 00:27:18.380 --> 00:27:22.339 That's right. Thank God for cops, right? Okay, 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.599 so then we get introduced to my second favorite 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.579 character, one of the sleazeballs, which all 00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:28.539 of them look like fucking, you know, close -up 00:27:28.539 --> 00:27:33.500 magicians. One of them gets murked off real quick. 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:34.779 I don't think we have to talk about it that much. 00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:36.539 Nick Cage immediately shoots him in the head. 00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:39.619 He's dead, whatever. But then the other two brothers, 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.700 one of them's getting a tattoo. And he's my favorite. 00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:44.579 He's got this little fucking braided... He's 00:27:44.579 --> 00:27:47.420 played by Rocco Nugent. Great name, too. He's 00:27:47.420 --> 00:27:49.779 got this braided, like, rat tail in the front 00:27:49.779 --> 00:27:53.119 sort of thing. He's getting a tattoo of a piece 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.259 of pie. Well, he's getting words and he wants 00:27:56.259 --> 00:27:59.539 pie over it. Right, because one year he had birthday 00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:02.240 pie. Yeah, one year he had birthday pie. Which 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:07.720 isn't a sex thing. It's from his mom. Given that... 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.059 Given that boy is like everything might be might 00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:13.460 be a sex thing. It might have been a sex thing. 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:18.960 Yeah. But he's the scene makes it really feel 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.619 like the tattoo artist is just freestyling the 00:28:22.619 --> 00:28:24.160 tattoo on him, just like kind of hand drawing 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.819 with the tattoo machine. She definitely was because 00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:29.519 he was describing the pie to her. She was like, 00:28:29.539 --> 00:28:31.700 yeah, I dig that. Yeah, I know. I know how to 00:28:31.700 --> 00:28:34.299 draw pie. Don't worry. I do like that. Like they're 00:28:34.299 --> 00:28:37.019 really trying to like give the tattoo. uh parlor 00:28:37.019 --> 00:28:40.440 like a real ambiance of like scuzzitude and like 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.420 seediness and even like the other tattoo artist 00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:44.900 is walking through the room when the one brother 00:28:44.900 --> 00:28:47.740 goes to like give him a fist pump oh yeah oh 00:28:47.740 --> 00:28:53.339 yeah piece of shit we all know you did that shit 00:28:53.339 --> 00:28:55.440 don't get out of here don't touch me i was like 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.579 yeah that old man's cool so then then older brother 00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:01.359 marvin gets a call about like oh we got some 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.539 evidence on tina proving that she's a slut so 00:29:04.539 --> 00:29:09.039 he brings other brother pie brother uh out to 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:13.960 niagara falls is his name lloyd yeah i also like 00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.660 in that scene lloyd uh he's smoking a joint or 00:29:16.660 --> 00:29:19.859 something he drops in his lap ah my dick i almost 00:29:19.859 --> 00:29:23.440 burned my dick off burn my dick off like by the 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.819 way that was definitely meth glass piping so 00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:31.359 they get there and uh and cage's truck is just 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.279 kind of sitting there but there's nobody in the 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:38.390 truck this scene this scene is it's interesting 00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:42.890 right it's a good scene there there's there's 00:29:42.890 --> 00:29:45.750 not a lot of places to hide out there like it's 00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:49.029 just an open area and the waterfalls right yeah 00:29:49.029 --> 00:29:52.529 and this fucking guy nick cage batman's and what 00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:56.890 is way behind them where was he hiding what the 00:29:56.890 --> 00:30:01.630 hell was he he wasn't in the truck he just He's 00:30:01.630 --> 00:30:03.470 just behind you, surprised, motherfucker. Like, 00:30:03.509 --> 00:30:06.450 what the hell? How? He, like, walks up. He blasts 00:30:06.450 --> 00:30:09.809 Lloyd so fucking good. Yeah. Blast Lloyd. Lloyd 00:30:09.809 --> 00:30:13.329 goes over the falls. Drops the gun he shoots 00:30:13.329 --> 00:30:18.250 Lloyd with. Then shoots. Yeah. Then shoots Marvin 00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:22.970 with. With Lloyd's gun? I get. That's what I 00:30:22.970 --> 00:30:25.529 thought. Like, in the leg. And then when Marvin's 00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:27.049 on the ground, shoots him twice in the chest 00:30:27.049 --> 00:30:29.890 and once in the head. And my assumption was he 00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:34.210 took. Lloyd's gun to like have them like make 00:30:34.210 --> 00:30:36.069 it look like those two shot each other. But no, 00:30:36.150 --> 00:30:38.950 he kicks them both over the falls. And the news 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:42.329 is reporting that they found the truck on the 00:30:42.329 --> 00:30:45.049 falls and they fled into Canada. Yeah, right. 00:30:45.589 --> 00:30:47.950 Which I mean, that that actually makes sense 00:30:47.950 --> 00:30:51.769 as a storyline, you know. But this is what this 00:30:51.769 --> 00:30:53.329 is where this breaks down for me. So he's doing 00:30:53.329 --> 00:30:55.930 all these killings. The first killing he did, 00:30:55.970 --> 00:30:58.470 he did in public and he did it as self -defense 00:30:58.470 --> 00:31:01.569 as a cop because. the uh shithead brandished 00:31:01.569 --> 00:31:05.690 a knife uh right and gets off on it which i like 00:31:05.690 --> 00:31:07.109 how they actually explained that where he had 00:31:07.109 --> 00:31:09.890 to like yeah go and talk to other cops and clear 00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:12.849 him oh it's ib yeah internal affairs yeah yeah 00:31:12.849 --> 00:31:17.410 he kills the other two guys and then we get to 00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:20.769 the and then we get to the fourth guy he kills 00:31:20.769 --> 00:31:24.589 all these people for these two women But they 00:31:24.589 --> 00:31:26.910 don't know that. None of them know that, but 00:31:26.910 --> 00:31:28.710 they're so grateful to him for all he's done 00:31:28.710 --> 00:31:31.049 when he's done, as far as they're concerned, 00:31:31.170 --> 00:31:34.029 absolutely nothing, except fine Tina initially. 00:31:35.009 --> 00:31:38.769 Right. Fine Tina. I mean, the only one that they 00:31:38.769 --> 00:31:40.210 can confirm they killed was obviously the first 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:42.470 guy you mentioned. Yeah. The other guys just 00:31:42.470 --> 00:31:45.289 keep disappearing, essentially. And then one 00:31:45.289 --> 00:31:50.549 kills himself. Kills himself. Because Nick Cage 00:31:50.549 --> 00:31:52.900 has him write a suicide note. right and by the 00:31:52.900 --> 00:31:54.980 end of the movie they seem to have figured that 00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:58.180 out somehow or something right like accuses nick 00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:01.039 cage of it and then walks out of the best exit 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:10.990 ever Which I just assumed was Don Johnson's actual 00:32:10.990 --> 00:32:14.250 motorcycle, and he just left the set. He's like, 00:32:14.289 --> 00:32:15.769 I'm done, and just drove away, and they caught 00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:20.250 it on camera. Or it was in his rider. That is 00:32:20.250 --> 00:32:22.829 one of the single best bits of comedy I've seen 00:32:22.829 --> 00:32:25.210 in a long time, because comedy is defined as 00:32:25.210 --> 00:32:27.450 subverting expectations. Yeah, no helmet, nothing. 00:32:28.150 --> 00:32:31.069 I was on a Harley after leaving a courthouse. 00:32:31.650 --> 00:32:33.789 And there's like, and the thing was, there was 00:32:33.789 --> 00:32:36.109 no buildup to that. Like we didn't know if he 00:32:36.109 --> 00:32:39.089 drove cars or rode Harleys and, you know, and 00:32:39.089 --> 00:32:40.670 this is a theme and that's not the entirety of 00:32:40.670 --> 00:32:44.009 the movie, but just. Yeah. Rocket man, go for 00:32:44.009 --> 00:32:45.250 it. You know, the Harley and right off into the 00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:49.690 sunset. You heard it, you know, like what? Like, 00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:52.009 see you guys later. I got to go defend some more 00:32:52.009 --> 00:32:54.630 child rapists. Hop on my heart. I legitimately 00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:56.710 thought that there was going to be one more vengeance 00:32:56.710 --> 00:32:58.470 situation. And I thought we were going to end 00:32:58.470 --> 00:33:01.339 up seeing him like. I thought that Nick Cage 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:03.900 and his partner were going to go report to a 00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:05.400 scene of an accident and it was going to end 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.119 like because they get called at the end. It's 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.259 like, oh, there's something we got to go do. 00:33:08.500 --> 00:33:10.559 Oh, it's going to be he's going to be dead. His 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.900 motorcycle fucking blew up sugar in the tank. 00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:17.079 You know, whatever. Nope. This movie does exactly 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.400 what it says it's going to do and then ends. 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.160 It's like Nick Cage gets vengeance movie over. 00:33:22.849 --> 00:33:25.849 like no maybe maybe he finds love i don't know 00:33:25.849 --> 00:33:27.869 no that's exactly what happens because the colon 00:33:27.869 --> 00:33:30.529 a love story is the last tacked on scene of the 00:33:30.529 --> 00:33:33.490 movie where they're saying goodbye to nick cage 00:33:33.490 --> 00:33:36.650 through a chain link fence and the little girl 00:33:36.650 --> 00:33:41.430 uh bethy says i love you and nick cage says if 00:33:41.430 --> 00:33:43.730 i ever had a daughter i hope she grows up to 00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:47.049 be like you that's the colon a love story in 00:33:47.049 --> 00:33:49.589 this film turns out he loved the kid not the 00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:53.069 mom i guess bethy and nick cage have five scenes 00:33:53.069 --> 00:33:57.490 in this film uh tina and nick cage have four 00:33:57.490 --> 00:33:59.390 or five scenes two of which tina is in a coma 00:33:59.390 --> 00:34:04.170 they have no connection whatsoever like they 00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:05.569 don't have a connection she threw pussy out of 00:34:05.569 --> 00:34:07.769 my like in the first five yeah exactly that's 00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:10.010 all you need he could have hit he could have 00:34:10.010 --> 00:34:11.550 hit for sure he definitely could have hit that 00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:14.980 which makes this So much creepier than it needs 00:34:14.980 --> 00:34:16.559 to be. If they just had never met, if he only 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.559 like met the daughter first after the crime would 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.380 make so much more sense and be so much less weird, 00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:26.380 man. I fucking hated that chain link fence scene 00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:29.039 just because like from a, from a filming perspective, 00:34:29.260 --> 00:34:31.840 it's like, this is a sensitive moment and you're 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.159 just like blocking one person's face, either 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.579 shot, like with a fucking tight cop chain link 00:34:37.579 --> 00:34:40.900 fence, like fuck that. Most of this movie is 00:34:40.900 --> 00:34:43.840 like fairly well filmed. Fairly well shot. Like 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.920 everything is pretty decent overall for like 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.460 a pretty low budget movie. That's one of those 00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:50.980 where I was like, what is this DP doing? Like, 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.480 what the fuck were you thinking? That doesn't 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.260 make any sense. Is it just so they could have 00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:56.840 that moment where you can put the fingers through 00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.500 the fence and she can put her fingers through 00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:01.639 the fence? Is that it? Probably. I would say 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.739 that was supposed to be a big payoff moment because 00:35:03.739 --> 00:35:06.079 they actually filmed that little sequence very 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.760 well. And you could kind of catch the emotion 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:11.039 on that. The only problem was, was that it felt 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.179 undeserved as hell. yeah if somebody did a bunch 00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:18.800 of like unrequested murders for you and then 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:22.579 like at the end of a long week you like catch 00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:25.300 up with them how do you feel about that like 00:35:25.300 --> 00:35:27.940 generally like like you personally would you 00:35:27.940 --> 00:35:32.280 be like oh man that's that's so cool of steven 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.579 to just fucking knock off all those guys i'm 00:35:37.579 --> 00:35:40.199 so glad steven murked off all those people exactly 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.980 the same situation one time you know somebody 00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:46.380 messed with my haircut those motherfuckers you 00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:51.780 take care of that same thing right also they're 00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:55.780 moving to california that's the the the end of 00:35:55.780 --> 00:35:57.900 their stories that they're just going to california 00:35:57.900 --> 00:36:03.239 and they'll be happier here right which i'm like 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.820 why like what is in california For someone who 00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:09.480 has gone through what Tina has gone through. 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.960 I mean, maybe better health care, better psychiatric 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.840 services. Sure. But I don't know what the population 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.199 of Niagara is. It's probably not that big. So 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.800 it might be nice to go someplace else. Possibly 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.280 it will be a little more anonymous because it's 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.380 clear it could not be anonymous in Niagara Falls. 00:36:27.170 --> 00:36:28.730 Right. I'm pretty sure everybody knows everybody. 00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:32.369 They all showed up to that hearing and they're 00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:34.610 like, yeah, we all know that whore. Fuck that 00:36:34.610 --> 00:36:38.550 bitch. I'm like, what the? Those boys are innocent. 00:36:38.750 --> 00:36:40.690 They never raped anybody, at least unless they 00:36:40.690 --> 00:36:42.389 didn't. You can't rape the willy, which is basically 00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:46.230 the whole story. Totally normal faces. That judge 00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:48.389 was a piece of work. Yeah, make that bitch take 00:36:48.389 --> 00:36:51.269 off her sunglasses. He was a piece of shit. That 00:36:51.269 --> 00:36:56.300 judge is one of the biggest villains. So this 00:36:56.300 --> 00:36:58.280 is one of my biggest complaints about the movie 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.480 is that they keep presenting information to us 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.440 and then dropping it and then not setting up 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.760 further information. So the judge is probably 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.719 the most like the biggest offender in my opinion, 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.420 because you go into this whole courthouse scene 00:37:15.420 --> 00:37:17.440 and everything throughout the movie has been 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.239 kind of presented as is, you know, like this 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.480 is just. Niagara Falls this is this person's 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.320 life going awry because she got raped and her 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.380 dealing with it which I will say for portraying 00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:31.300 a rape survivor they did a pretty good job on 00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:34.320 that like I think I did believe absolutely going 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.079 through it as a rape survivor and it sucked to 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.840 watch and it was actually pretty compelling so 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.679 going from nailing that portion to suddenly hey 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:48.039 we're in kangaroo court everybody's fucking corrupt 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:49.800 everybody's on the take we're not going to explain 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.679 it but both the lawyer the the defense lawyer 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.619 and the judge and you're not going to figure 00:37:56.619 --> 00:38:00.000 that out until maybe this weird interaction maybe 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.739 20 minutes later yeah and this happens over and 00:38:04.739 --> 00:38:06.380 over again where things just happen and then 00:38:06.380 --> 00:38:09.139 was that supposed to mean something like was 00:38:09.139 --> 00:38:10.480 i supposed to catch something from that that's 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.989 all the stuff that was cut for time the Just 00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:14.630 remember, it was only the rape scene that was 00:38:14.630 --> 00:38:17.929 added back in to flesh it out. Yeah, that was 00:38:17.929 --> 00:38:20.690 the only thing not cut for time. Oh, my God. 00:38:20.730 --> 00:38:22.670 I know this is probably the wrong place to insert 00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:25.969 this exact thing that I absolutely hated about 00:38:25.969 --> 00:38:28.130 this movie, but I know Peter had the exact same 00:38:28.130 --> 00:38:32.010 thought with me. Grandma's kitchen, the giant 00:38:32.010 --> 00:38:34.530 wall -sized portrait of Jim Morrison. What's 00:38:34.530 --> 00:38:38.960 going on with that? Fuck the doors. Fuck the 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.420 doors is right. How is she so judgy? She's so 00:38:43.420 --> 00:38:47.739 fucking judgy. I know. Your daughter just got 00:38:47.739 --> 00:38:51.239 fucking raped and like be sensitive. Jesus Christ. 00:38:51.380 --> 00:38:54.099 Oh, my God. They're like, what a fucking bull 00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:56.480 in a china shop. Yeah, she was terrible. Fuck 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:59.559 that lady. Yeah. And then like, so, you know, 00:38:59.619 --> 00:39:01.639 I feel bad. Also, the the boyfriend, I can't 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.349 remember his name, but he essentially. His only 00:39:05.349 --> 00:39:08.489 crime was trying to get her to stay over later 00:39:08.489 --> 00:39:11.710 than she probably needed to do. And then offering 00:39:11.710 --> 00:39:18.690 to drive her home. Right. And that's it. She's 00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:20.730 like, fuck you. You should never come near us 00:39:20.730 --> 00:39:22.429 again. And he's like, what the hell? And for 00:39:22.429 --> 00:39:25.190 his troubles, he gets a header through his window. 00:39:25.710 --> 00:39:29.150 The other crime that Nick Cage outright ignores 00:39:29.150 --> 00:39:31.889 so he can like murder somebody. Yeah, like I 00:39:31.889 --> 00:39:33.989 don't get where this guy is. Like, is there any 00:39:33.989 --> 00:39:36.269 just where's the vengeance for him? You know? 00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:39.010 Oh, OK. This is way out of cycle for the entire 00:39:39.010 --> 00:39:43.389 thing. But one of the things in the courtroom 00:39:43.389 --> 00:39:45.730 that I just stuck in my craw is like, OK, so 00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:47.469 they said that they were at this this Fourth 00:39:47.469 --> 00:39:50.750 of July party and she was drunk. They had what 00:39:50.750 --> 00:39:52.929 did they say it was? I actually wrote that down. 00:39:53.369 --> 00:39:56.690 i wrote this down like 11 bottles between seven 00:39:56.690 --> 00:40:00.489 people or some shit like that they drank they 00:40:00.489 --> 00:40:04.130 drank five kegs of beer between 19 people which 00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:09.710 is 43 beers each and i said when i heard that 00:40:09.710 --> 00:40:11.349 out loud i had to write it down because i said 00:40:11.349 --> 00:40:13.610 it out loud i was like only five kegs we should 00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:16.309 put that down at the bob cave and it was like 00:40:16.309 --> 00:40:19.309 five of us five kegs for five people yeah one 00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:22.349 keg a piece there you go exactly Kevin's 21st 00:40:22.349 --> 00:40:27.130 birthday, we got our first group keg in my kitchen. 00:40:27.849 --> 00:40:31.789 That later gets moved into my bathroom because 00:40:31.789 --> 00:40:36.070 I'm 19 and have a house and the parental units 00:40:36.070 --> 00:40:39.289 come and check on me occasionally. The day after 00:40:39.289 --> 00:40:41.670 the party, I get a knock on my door and it's 00:40:41.670 --> 00:40:44.750 Fields and our friend Sal, both with their hands 00:40:44.750 --> 00:40:47.300 behind their backs, being like, oh, just... Coming 00:40:47.300 --> 00:40:49.699 to say you're doing just stopping by. Is that 00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:51.440 keg still here? I'm like, yeah, you guys want 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.860 to come in? And they both pull out steins from 00:40:53.860 --> 00:40:59.699 behind their back. We woke up the next day and 00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:00.860 we were just like, you think he's still got the 00:41:00.860 --> 00:41:02.460 keg? Of course he's still got the keg. I got 00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:08.880 the keg. Those are good times. Oh, man. Well, 00:41:08.900 --> 00:41:11.440 shit. Okay, so actually we have done. A surprising 00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.280 amount of talking about this movie, which I did 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.420 not think we were going to do. But a new segment 00:41:16.420 --> 00:41:20.300 that we've added in is called Sean in 60 seconds, 00:41:20.420 --> 00:41:24.619 where we give Sean a soapbox to just talk. Voice 00:41:24.619 --> 00:41:26.780 all the things that need to come out of Sean. 00:41:27.179 --> 00:41:29.519 I have timed this and I'm going to see if I can 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.860 do it. I got it down to like one second to go. 00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:34.260 Let me let me see if I can get my timer out. 00:41:34.619 --> 00:41:36.920 You start talking and I will hit my timer. All 00:41:36.920 --> 00:42:09.300 right, Donnie. Nick Cage sneers in the background 00:42:09.300 --> 00:42:12.159 of another soulless revenge thriller, this time 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.360 playing loose cannon detective John Everyman, 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.599 whose only character trait is that he's a loose 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.360 cannon detective. After meeting local widow Tina 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.260 at a bar, immediately jump ahead seven months 00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:24.980 to them having never spoken again. Tina survives 00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:27.440 a horrific sexual assault in front of her 12 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.059 -year -old daughter, a scene that is so gratuitous 00:42:30.059 --> 00:42:32.599 it verges on snuff porn. When the law fails these 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.659 women, John takes it upon himself to avenge them 00:42:34.659 --> 00:42:37.239 by openly ignoring violent crimes that would 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.960 likely get the criminals put away for a long 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.699 time so he can play Timo Punisher. In 141 minutes, 00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:44.639 the two leads have all of five scenes together. 00:42:45.070 --> 00:42:46.989 two of which Tina has been beaten into a coma. 00:42:47.150 --> 00:42:49.510 The movie itself swings wildly in plot and tone 00:42:49.510 --> 00:42:51.510 throughout, so if you find yourself getting bored, 00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:53.949 just give it 10 minutes. Every attempt at an 00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:56.730 emotional beat is forced and completely unearned. 00:42:56.730 --> 00:42:58.929 The only real emotional response this film got 00:42:58.929 --> 00:43:01.369 out of me was the anger and disgust for the needless 00:43:01.369 --> 00:43:04.369 prolonged rape scene, Don Johnson's sleazy lawyering, 00:43:04.449 --> 00:43:07.570 and actor Rocco Nugent's terrible rat tail. So 00:43:07.570 --> 00:43:09.769 unless you love wasting your precious life or 00:43:09.769 --> 00:43:11.909 just hate women, I would steer clear of this 00:43:11.909 --> 00:43:18.010 one. Failed. Five seconds too long, Sean. I'm 00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:21.489 going to cut you dead at one minute. So right 00:43:21.489 --> 00:43:26.429 at. So right at unless you unless you love wasting 00:43:26.429 --> 00:43:28.630 your precious life or just hate women. Stop. 00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:36.070 Yeah. Yep. You got it. I would say that was, 00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:38.289 you know, that that was pretty close. That was 00:43:38.289 --> 00:43:40.610 that's within. That's that's pretty good. Not 00:43:40.610 --> 00:43:43.570 too bad. OK, Nick, final final thoughts on this 00:43:43.570 --> 00:43:46.469 sucker. I ended up liking it a lot more than 00:43:46.469 --> 00:43:49.769 I thought I was going to, mostly because it just 00:43:49.769 --> 00:43:53.750 ends. It doesn't like belabor anything. It's 00:43:53.750 --> 00:43:56.750 like, oh, this movie, it is what it is. And oh, 00:43:56.869 --> 00:43:59.289 good. It's over. Like they didn't drag it out. 00:43:59.469 --> 00:44:02.929 So I will say for myself, it is surprisingly 00:44:02.929 --> 00:44:06.150 well shot, surprisingly well acted. The girl, 00:44:06.170 --> 00:44:08.849 uh, Bethy is probably the best actor in this 00:44:08.849 --> 00:44:10.909 movie. Good kid actor. Yeah. And she might be 00:44:10.909 --> 00:44:12.469 the best in the movie. You're right. Yeah. It's 00:44:12.469 --> 00:44:17.670 shockingly well shot. Um, despite how it treats 00:44:17.670 --> 00:44:20.090 Tina from like the court side of things, like 00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:23.829 they do actually handle, despite showing the 00:44:23.829 --> 00:44:25.670 rape, they actually do handle it with some grace 00:44:25.670 --> 00:44:28.710 and like show her as like more of a fully, like 00:44:28.710 --> 00:44:31.710 as a tragic figure more than I thought they would. 00:44:31.750 --> 00:44:33.820 So I will give them credit for that. It is. a 00:44:33.820 --> 00:44:38.500 tight 141 like it's not it's not so bad it's 00:44:38.500 --> 00:44:41.780 good and it's not so terrible it's blah but it 00:44:41.780 --> 00:44:45.460 is a lot of it is unnecessary yeah and you know 00:44:45.460 --> 00:44:49.760 uh to to speak to the tina of it all like um 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.539 you know we don't really know a lot about tina 00:44:52.539 --> 00:44:54.579 we don't get a lot of that story and so like 00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:57.980 for all we know tina could just be a hoe i think 00:44:57.980 --> 00:45:02.159 that's possibly what the takeaway is from her 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.809 character And I think this movie is more about 00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:07.969 her than it is about Nick Cage, despite the fact 00:45:07.969 --> 00:45:09.750 that it kept trying to make it about Nick Cage. 00:45:09.909 --> 00:45:12.369 Well, you know nothing about him. We learned. 00:45:12.550 --> 00:45:15.409 He's a Gulf Storm vet. That's it. Yeah, we know. 00:45:15.769 --> 00:45:20.449 They literally, they tell us in a quick 30 second 00:45:20.449 --> 00:45:23.010 segment, oh, he got a purple heart, huh? Guy's 00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:25.809 good. He's good at getting shot. When writing 00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:28.050 that little ramble, I couldn't remember Nick 00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:29.690 Cage's name, but I wanted to use the joke John 00:45:29.690 --> 00:45:31.449 Everyman. I'm like, let me see what his actual 00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:35.389 name is on IMDb to see if this joke works. And 00:45:35.389 --> 00:45:38.929 he's only credited on IMDb as John. As John. 00:45:39.690 --> 00:45:44.809 Because she's a prostitute. Because she's a prostitute. 00:45:45.570 --> 00:45:51.829 Just another John. We're going to have to watch 00:45:51.829 --> 00:45:56.079 this movie again now. With that in mind. I did. 00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.280 I clearly was not watching it the correct way. 00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:02.940 Next time watch it on a plane. Yeah. Absolutely. 00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.219 That's how Nick likes to watch the most uncomfortable 00:46:05.219 --> 00:46:07.139 of Nick Cage movies. Generally. Headphones off 00:46:07.139 --> 00:46:10.119 on a plane. If you guys mind, I gotta watch this 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.980 scene real quick. I'm gonna get an IOC and I'm 00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:16.630 just gonna watch this real quick. I would say 00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:18.650 the biggest problem that happened to this movie 00:46:18.650 --> 00:46:21.329 because it has a lot of good ideas. I think it 00:46:21.329 --> 00:46:23.170 attempts some stuff that is all right. I don't 00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:26.389 hate it for trying, but I feel like in the moments 00:46:26.389 --> 00:46:30.369 where they wanted us to accept implied information, 00:46:30.530 --> 00:46:33.409 they never actually implied anything. The fact 00:46:33.409 --> 00:46:36.329 that Tina's the town whore was something I didn't 00:46:36.329 --> 00:46:38.909 realize until the court scene, because there 00:46:38.909 --> 00:46:41.150 had been no interactions with anybody in town 00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:43.150 up until that point. Well, Fields, you see, she 00:46:43.150 --> 00:46:46.769 was wearing a shirt with no bra. oh yeah look 00:46:46.769 --> 00:46:49.010 at look at what she's wearing the bartender kind 00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:52.250 of like sets the stage or whatever there's just 00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:55.170 a lot of jesus christ i think i think in that 00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:57.469 case i read that more as like oh she's a widow 00:46:57.469 --> 00:47:00.909 and she's out here trying to rebuild her her 00:47:00.909 --> 00:47:03.369 social life which is you know he wasn't it wasn't 00:47:03.369 --> 00:47:05.510 colored with malice you know like the intent 00:47:05.510 --> 00:47:10.250 wasn't ill when he was telling uh john uh about 00:47:10.250 --> 00:47:12.809 tina he was just saying yeah that chick's probably 00:47:12.809 --> 00:47:15.239 gonna you know go home with somebody the night 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.260 because she's always about having a good time 00:47:17.260 --> 00:47:20.139 since her husband died right um i never really 00:47:20.139 --> 00:47:23.179 got the vibe that the whole town fucking hates 00:47:23.179 --> 00:47:26.480 tina like well by the end of the movie the court 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.880 scene where it's like oh shit the entirety of 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:35.559 niagara yeah i do like how the two brothers who 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.139 are clearly in their like 20s still share a bedroom 00:47:40.789 --> 00:47:43.690 Yeah, that was pretty great. They didn't have 00:47:43.690 --> 00:47:46.989 Jim Morrison on the wall, though. It didn't have 00:47:46.989 --> 00:47:48.329 Jim Morrison on the wall. It ain't much of a 00:47:48.329 --> 00:47:50.250 house, but it's all they got, okay? At least 00:47:50.250 --> 00:47:52.489 they had. They had it. Dude, the fact that the 00:47:52.489 --> 00:47:55.550 dad's like, bro, we sold our house for these 00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:59.090 dumbasses. Come on. That dad was so sick of their 00:47:59.090 --> 00:48:01.469 shit. He knew. He was him. He said three years, 00:48:01.530 --> 00:48:03.230 I think that's all. He's like, three years is 00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:06.690 pretty good considering. I will agree. I do want 00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:09.989 to agree with Fields, though. This movie did 00:48:09.989 --> 00:48:11.650 attempt a lot of things and it tried to attempt 00:48:11.650 --> 00:48:13.989 them well. The problem isn't with the subject 00:48:13.989 --> 00:48:16.289 matter as much as it is the execution. Yeah. 00:48:16.349 --> 00:48:18.289 Yes. I think that sort of falls down a lot of 00:48:18.289 --> 00:48:21.190 the play. This fell into that pocket of his movies 00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:23.329 where he's just sort of like ham -faced and, 00:48:23.369 --> 00:48:25.289 you know, it came out and he's a name on it, 00:48:25.309 --> 00:48:27.590 but nobody went and saw it. Ham -faced. That 00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:31.230 is the most amazing description of that level 00:48:31.230 --> 00:48:33.789 of Nick K. Jackson. Just the half -lip sneer 00:48:33.789 --> 00:48:37.940 that he has the entire time. so like this thing 00:48:37.940 --> 00:48:40.059 it must have been a direct to streaming or close 00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:43.699 to it because it's like box was $73 ,000 or something 00:48:43.699 --> 00:48:45.840 like that it played in a couple theaters for 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.559 a couple people and that's it and it feels like 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.039 one of those it actually feels like a higher 00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.519 quality version than that but you know it does 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:56.599 feel like that for sure But yeah, next up, we've 00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.119 got inconceivable, which I read one review of 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.199 because, again, it's in the same pocket of like 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.739 not great Nick Cage movies. And the review was, 00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.340 if you enjoy only very well written and directed 00:49:08.340 --> 00:49:10.699 realistic movies with real twists, stay away 00:49:10.699 --> 00:49:14.519 from this one. So, yeah, something good for us 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.579 to look forward to. Yeah, nice. Anyway, if you 00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:20.760 are interested in supporting us, we are on Patreon. 00:49:21.219 --> 00:49:23.320 Thank you to our Sparkle Buddies, Josh, Josie, 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.500 Matt, Adam, Bill, Stuart, and Willow. And to 00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:27.320 our Cage Dancers, John, Freeman, Nathan, and 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.039 Cameron. And if you are in the Seattle area next 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.300 month, April 11th, we will be doing a showing 00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:35.840 of Prisoners of the Ghost Land at a local theater 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.760 here. So come join us. It should be very fun. 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.300 It's a great, weird -ass movie from Patriot Pictures, 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.980 apparently. Yeah. Is that all the details? Like, 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.840 we're going to watch a movie at a local theater. 00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:50.559 And we're not going to tell you which one. Also, 00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.739 it's at the Beacon Cinema. This is no secret. 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.420 It's no secret where we're doing this. You don't 00:49:57.420 --> 00:50:01.139 have to be in or cool. Yeah, we want people to 00:50:01.139 --> 00:50:05.159 show up. You should show. You can find it. Just 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.519 knock down the doors of every local theater. 00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:08.599 You need the cool judge handshake if you want 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:09.960 to come see this movie. Every low -budget, hole 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:12.820 -in -the -wall theater. Yeah. Ooh, I'll wear 00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:16.530 it. This is an appropriate movie for me to wear 00:50:16.530 --> 00:50:19.170 one of my jumpsuits. Oh, the one with the testicle 00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:21.730 bombs on it? It feels very jumpsuit -y. Can we 00:50:21.730 --> 00:50:26.269 put testicle bombs on the balls? I don't. Please 00:50:26.269 --> 00:50:29.550 don't. All right. Thanks, Fields. Of course. 00:50:29.650 --> 00:50:31.769 Anytime, guys. You got anything coming up, Fields? 00:50:31.849 --> 00:50:35.630 You want to plug? Oh, yeah. Plug away. Well, 00:50:35.789 --> 00:50:39.170 it is tournament season. If anybody that is listening 00:50:39.170 --> 00:50:42.869 to this is an FGC aficionado and they're following 00:50:42.869 --> 00:50:45.599 various events that are happening around the 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.619 world i'll be at texas showdown uh in houston 00:50:48.619 --> 00:50:54.340 texas this march 25th till march 31st and then 00:50:54.340 --> 00:50:56.659 i'll be in las vegas for vegas climax from april 00:50:56.659 --> 00:51:01.039 2nd to april 6th i believe and then i'm gonna 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.219 be possibly in japan for evil japan and first 00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:06.960 weekend of may i don't have a date for that yet 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.260 and then chicago at the end of may memorial day 00:51:10.260 --> 00:51:15.019 weekend for a and then vegas again in the end 00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:18.539 of june 25th for evo and i think i'm done after 00:51:18.539 --> 00:51:22.699 that maybe hell yeah yeah cool thanks for being 00:51:22.699 --> 00:51:24.679 here thanks for listening everybody and we'll 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:39.019 see you next time nick looking so damn cozy is 00:51:39.019 --> 00:51:41.269 got is really throwing me off my game I'm kind 00:51:41.269 --> 00:51:45.050 of jealous. You know what? That's it. Pants are 00:51:45.050 --> 00:51:46.630 coming off. I'm going to drink all their coffee, 00:51:46.750 --> 00:51:48.610 too. I'm going to drink all their coffee because 00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:50.750 I don't have any alcohol in this room, weirdly 00:51:50.750 --> 00:51:53.409 enough. But yeah, I'm just going to drink all 00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:55.469 of it. How lame. Yeah, Pete's going to be real 00:51:55.469 --> 00:51:57.190 upset in the morning. How's that Canadian coffee? 00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:02.469 It's, you know, fine. It's not like a Keurig, 00:52:02.530 --> 00:52:06.449 but it's, you know, a Keurig. It's cheap. It's 00:52:06.449 --> 00:52:11.579 free in the room. A Keurig? No, that's nothing. 00:52:12.099 --> 00:52:16.280 Boo. I appreciated the attempt, but...