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Oh, God. I'm going to point this out because

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nobody else has. I'm the only person here not

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wearing glasses. Oh, yeah. I got LASIK on Friday.

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Did you really? I did. Oh, hell yeah. Two days

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out. It's weird. Oh, I bet. Yeah. How often do

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you touch your face now? Just like trying to

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put your glasses back up. I have this morning

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getting out of bed. I reached for my glasses.

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And then when I was like, you know, splashing

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water on my face first thing this morning, I

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did it on my eyes and immediately regretted it.

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Oh, yeah. That would drive me insane. As someone

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who constantly looks for the glasses they are

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currently wearing, not having glasses would drive

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me insane. I think about it fairly often. It

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would be interesting, but I've had glasses for

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so fucking long. I got mine when I was eight.

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Yeah, you beat me. Second grade. Yeah. That's

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seven. Yeah, that's when I got it. Third. All

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I know about John's illustrious backstory is

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you had glasses when you were eight and you used

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to be a bodybuilder. I am imagining a tiny buff

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child now with glasses. Little buff boys. Oh,

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I was fat. I graduated high school at 320. Damn.

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Wow. I don't remember when I was bodybuilding.

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I was 198 and a quarter. I just barely made weight.

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Wow. God, that's crazy. I had to go pee to make

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weight. Shit you not. Empty that bladder out.

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We got it. Couple more ounces off. Done. There

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was dudes spitting in cups. That's so wild. Well,

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that was a weird tangent. Sorry. No, that's OK.

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That's kind of what our bread and butter is.

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So, yeah. Oh, the interesting thing is I've had

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moments walking around the house and realize

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I'm not wearing my glasses and then think, oh,

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I can't see. And then a half second later being

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like, oh, actually, I can. That is like that

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cognitive dissonance. Yeah, it's been real odd.

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because i'm used to you know hey if i don't have

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my glasses on i can't see right that's right

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i think i'd have to get like if i had if i got

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lasik and like i could see normally i'd have

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to get like glasses just for style like just

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just style and normality like i don't think i'm

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thinking about being that guy that wears like

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just a tiny bit shaded glasses all the time oh

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you know what i mean i mean it would go with

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your whole hat vibe yeah It's true. And the low

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pony that I've got going now, too. So tiny bit

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shaded. You're just going to live like at all

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times. Just a little yellow. In a world where

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like you're the guy with transitions who just

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came inside. No, not that dark. I'm thinking

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more like Matthew McConaughey in Days of Confused.

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That kind of vibe. That's not a vibe a lot of

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people look for. It's kind of a scummy guy. Looks

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aren't everything. It's what's in your heart,

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Nick. So you watch this movie, these movies,

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this morning. I set an alarm to get up and watch

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these this morning because I forgot about it

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until about Thursday. And then we were throwing

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a Friendsgiving, so I had zero time. Yeah. So

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they're fresh in your bloodstream. Don't regret

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it, honestly. Okay, there you go. Sipping coffee.

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Welcome back to Cage Magical and a roundabout

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way of meeting Nicholas Cage. Since Peter's already

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gotten started before you've even... announced

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to the films uh this week we're kind of going

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off book and well not really we've discussed

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movies that nicholas cage is barely in and this

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week we're just discussing movies that he's not

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in uh we're doing the grindhouse films death

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proof and planet terror yep and uh in the little

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trailers that come along with it which is where

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we do get nick cage this is maybe the least nick

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cage screen time we've had ever though right

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I would argue, though, it's still more Nick Cage

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acting than Dazed and... Not Dazed and Abused.

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You're welcome. Now you have to leave that in

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for continuity. I am going to leave it in. Fast

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Times at Ridgemont High. For Fast Times at Ridgemont

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High, where he's there, but says nothing. He

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at least makes some faces in that one that were

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okay. He makes faces in this one. He makes racist

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faces in this one. Racist faces. Yes, in the...

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Great Rob Zombie trailer for Werewolf Women of

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the SS. Nicholas Cage plays Fu Manchu. Nice long

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fake mustache. Did any of you find the Rob Zombie

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interview where he discusses how this happened?

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no no but i wish i had yeah uh so in a short

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little interview with rob zombie he was talking

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about how he's like so i was doing this thing

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and you know i never asked my friends like for

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favors to be in my thing but like you know you

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don't know if you don't ask so i asked nick like

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hey do you want to be like the head nazi in this

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thing he's like no no man i can't be a nazi so

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i was just like fuck i want nick cage in this

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um so i just made up on the spot uh do you want

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to be fu manchu and nick cage is like Yeah, I'll

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do that. There was no Fu Manchu in the script.

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There was no Fu Manchu. I just said it. And apparently

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that was less problematic than a Nazi. Yeah.

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And that was essentially the interview. And that's

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why Fu Manchu is in that trailer. This is a tough

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question now. So who wants to be Fu Manchu for

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the poster? Not it. Oh, man. 100 % it. Yeah,

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all right. You can be one of the two fawning

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women at his feet. It's Fu Manchu or Nazi. Those

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are your choices today. And Peter's going to

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do a really good job on the Nazi photo. Really

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get your likeness in there. I don't. know that

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i need this in my life well we had a good run

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sean did we i don't know we had a run and the

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runs technically we've just discussed the entirety

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of nick cage's role in these films so we'll see

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you next week peter hit us with that outro yeah

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right okay but so he gives us a laugh is all

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yeah right yeah he's pretty much just like a

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turn and a laugh and i think he said i thought

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there was one line yeah it's very brief i don't

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know what he actually says also i did not have

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this trailer in either of the movies i watched

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i had to find it on youtube and even then because

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there are tits in it all i could find is a camcorder

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from a theater version of it gotcha so you got

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to watch a handy cam version of which is probably

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the best way to the best representation yeah

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yeah okay i like the most authentic way right

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machete is awesome great yeah i made it Did you

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ever see the actual movies? No, but I want to

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now. I know. No, you don't. It's not bad. No,

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that's too bad. I feel like they looked awesome.

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They were hitting something fun with that. And

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I guess Robert Rodriguez had had him in mind

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for like a really long time to do a machete movie

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and then was like, we'll just prime the pump

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with this sucker. Yeah. I mean, we're going to

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get in. I mean, I'm going to get into it later

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as to. whether or not i find i feel this like

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the rodriguez like grindhouse films work but

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spoiler yeah yeah that tone kind of answers the

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whether you think i object i mean you know i

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have my opinions but uh i think it works as a

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sizzle reel i don't know that it works as a 90

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minute joke as most jokes don't work as a 90

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minute you know you know past five how long are

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these podcasts Like an episode runtime? I mean,

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it depends. When we were doing the double features

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in the past, we would get anywhere from 55 minutes

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to close to an hour and a half was like our biggest.

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90 minutes, you say? Yeah, 90 minutes indeed.

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And the jokes didn't work. It's all been downhill

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since Paradictal. Oh, yeah, that's true. That

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was an early one, too. Oh, yeah. So let's see.

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The other one was the Edgar Wright one. Don't.

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oh yeah i kind of liked that you know it was

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stupid way but yeah it made me laugh in a dumb

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way oh i missed that one too that one i actually

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enjoyed that one uh i forgot about that trailer

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there's also the eli roth one yeah the thanksgiving

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one yeah that was fantastic i wanted to see that

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especially i'm fucking the turkey fucking the

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turkey yeah there was some weird visuals in that

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eli roth's a weird dude he's a very weird guy

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yeah Yeah, the grandma trussed up as the turkey

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in the end. Yep. Oh, I forgot about that. Gross

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and hot. Gross and hot. It took me a second to

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realize what was going on there because it doesn't

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show it for very long. Oh, as a connoisseur of

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grandma bodies, I knew right away. We know what

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category Nick goes for. Oh, God. Gross. I think

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it was kind of cool, and I'm sort of sad. in

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the state of affairs of cinema and movie theaters

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that something like this just probably can't

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exist again. Um, it's like the concept is just

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like incredibly low budget, pretty fast to produce

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movies that, you know, mostly exploitation style

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movies and, you know, lots of sword fight movies,

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martial arts movies kind of fit in that category.

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Um, yeah, it's just low budget action, horror

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and exploitation. Yeah. Shocking kind of bite.

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definition i guess or by trying to be by trying

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to be usually i think like more modern things

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you could point out it would be like uh trauma

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films right they're very much in that vein but

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they just don't get a theatrical release so it

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it hits different but i like this idea that you

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had theaters that like kind of had to fill time

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right so it's like what are you doing between

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all these blockbusters it's like okay i don't

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know It's like it's like public access, you know,

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and there's some horrible shit on public access

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and there's some kind of amazing shit that you

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find. And this, I'm sure, falls into both of

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those buckets. But, you know, it's kind of a

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cool idea in general, just being able to go to

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a movie theater and watch like, I don't know,

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an all nighter of like absolute nonsense. Like

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that sounds kind of fun. Yeah. I mean, like most

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things, it all got ruined by capitalism and studios

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wanting to like. monopolize every screen all

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the time rather than you don't get indie stuff

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anymore because no one will like pay for it because

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you guys watch the studio i haven't seen on apple

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tv super good yeah really yeah amazing can't

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recommend it enough but they talk about a lot

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of that actually of like because first episode

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spoiler alert half the season is about them having

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to make a kool -aid man movie and like fucking

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hating it and trying to figure out you know how

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to make it decent and stuff and the exact argument

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you're talking about of making like auteur films

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versus having to make these blockbusters that

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pay for the auteur films right well time was

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you know studios would just produce things and

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would look at the overall how much they made

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versus each individual project some projects

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would do worse some projects would do better

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but stuff would get produced and you know it

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would all come out in the wash as a whole but

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now each film needs to make so much money yeah

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it's the same thing that's happening with video

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games too you know where it's like everything

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has to be these triple a releases ultimately

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for the people at the top who don't like don't

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like video games well who don't make art who

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aren't involved in that they're just there to

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make money Yeah, it's opportunity cost, right?

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It's like, hey, if I get a loan for a billion

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dollars, I want to make as much possible money

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off that billion dollars. Right. So fuck the

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auteur films. I don't care. Yeah. You're right.

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It's pure money. It's just money. Yeah. It's

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just a bummer, though. You know, like it makes

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me we should make a fucking grindhouse film.

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Let's do it. We should. We might as well. We

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could. We might as well. We could. I mean, there's

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no reason we couldn't. We can totally shoot the

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beacon. I mean, the one thing that keeps us from

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doing it is time. oh i was gonna say skill and

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no you don't need skill that's unnecessary i'm

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really so time is right you're right in in the

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uh in the uh vein of that like uh are you guys

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excited for anaconda yes who loved a movie so

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much they wanted to remake it it is it's i mean

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kind of like i do sort of think that they're

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going to have a better time with it than the

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original one you know and it could be fun you

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know that kind of shit is enjoyable when people

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who make a thing have fun doing it and it's not

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like i mean we are talking about the same jack

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black film right Yeah. OK, what are you guys

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talking about? What's happening? Jack Black's

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remaking Anaconda. No, it's a movie called Anaconda.

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And it's the premise is these friends really

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loved the movie Anaconda as kids, because I mean,

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have you ever seen that movie? Yes, I have. And

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they just kind of like decide, hey, we have to

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make this film. So they just try to do a shot

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for shot remake of it. But they have zero budget,

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zero skill. And. It's a dumb movie. Looks dumb.

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It should be okay. Great. I'd see that. Yeah.

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That's all I wanted to talk about. I mean, the

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premise, the premise also being that to cut costs,

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they just get a giant snake who then the like

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remake of Anaconda just becomes them in an Anaconda

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situation. Yeah. Oh, it's so it's sort of like

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the unbearable weight of massive town a little

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bit. Yeah. Yeah. It becomes the action. I'm your

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guest, John. yeah all right who are you sean

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no i mean that's actually a good uh segue into

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kind of my main issue with these two films in

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terms of like grindhouse cinema it's just like

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can you make our tour like low budget like films

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with in the studio system or are we just you

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know i don't think these movies come go far enough

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to be considered parody but because they're made

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within the system i don't know if they're made

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with enough integrity is the wrong word but like

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yeah they just come off a little inauthentic

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yeah that's a fair assessment yeah um and because

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i'm the anal retentive fuck i am um the film

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grain over it i could see where it loops and

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like where the digital like streaks were coming

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in and that annoyed me the entire fucking time

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yeah It was unnecessary. Yeah, you don't need

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to do that shit. Well, and also in Death Proof,

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it kind of like came and went, too. Yeah, I was

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noticing that. It was at the beginning, there

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was a midsection where it had none, and then

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at the end, maybe it was back again. I don't

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remember exactly the sequence. Who was the DP

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for that? They were their own DP. Oh, I was going

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to say, I saw that Robert Rodriguez was his own.

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Yeah, and so was Terry. That tracks, yeah. Which

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is, I mean, fine. I like the idea of them trying

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to kick the tires on different aspects, but,

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you know, I think to varying degrees of success.

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Yeah, I really wish Quentin Tarantino would stop

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trying to act. Oh, he's so fucking bad. He's

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bad. He's even bad in Pulp Fiction, and that's

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probably his best, you know. Yeah. Well, I kind

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of just wish Tarantino would go away at this

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point. Just on the whole. Who? Tarantino. Tarantino?

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I just kind of wish he'd go away on the whole

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right now. Have you heard his most recent, like,

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tirade of interviews and him just kind of shitting

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on everybody he fucking can? Yeah. I mean, he's

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always been sort of that way. Yeah. Just at the

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point now where he's just throwing names out

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of people he doesn't like, like he's not even

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asked about things. He's just like, I fucking

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hate Owen Wilson. People are like, why? He's

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like, I don't like the way he acts. It's like,

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nobody asked you. Fair enough. I've met people

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like that. Yeah. I don't like his face. Well,

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I actually don't like Owen Wilson's face, but

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I do like him. He's very charming. Yeah. He seems

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like kind of a cool guy. Honestly, he grew on

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me. Wow. Luke Wilson, however. Not a fan. Insufferable

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brother. Yeah. Nepo brother. Nepo brother, right?

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Owen's got all the talent. Yep. Bottle rocket,

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baby. Okay, so wait. Who are you, Sean? Nick.

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I'm Nick. Oh, hey. Yeah, we're still doing the

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intro. I'm your host, Sean, with my co -host.

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I've done my part. And our producer, Peter. Hello.

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And our guest. John, I said it like five minutes

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ago. Yeah, it's good. This is going to be perfect.

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No edit episode. Nope. You know, honestly, I

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haven't listened to an episode in like two years.

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So I don't know. I don't know if any of this

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stuff actually ever makes it to air anymore.

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We actually don't even put anything out anymore.

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It's like in a wet hot American summer when it

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like pans down from the kid doing the radio announcements

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and it just shows everything unplugged. Yep.

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I've never actually seen that movie. It's pretty

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fun. Oh, it's terrific. john you want to run

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through the plot of a planet terror yeah i can

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try to do that um there's not a lot it's basically

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they wanted to make a generic zombie movie with

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a lot of gore and like stuff but there is a little

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bit of a plot um i'm thinking about i'm trying

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to debate do i go with chronological order let's

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do that sure i mean that's often a way to tell

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a tale well i mean like so i'm seal team bruce

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willis uh finds osama shoots him twice and his

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laptop once and i think that's at the time that's

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when they find the like gas stuff dc2 yeah which

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everybody seems to know exactly what that is

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i don't is it a real thing it can't be no i think

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it's just something that they didn't need to

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explain because it is in that world yeah dick

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chemical too whatever yeah whatever it would

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be dick chemical too it would feel weird to give

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exposition about something yeah like that in

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that it makes you mutate if you don't see breathe

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more of it yeah that's the thing is you need

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a little bit of it so like i don't know it's

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sort of a bane situation because if they take

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their masks off they start you know getting all

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boily and then eventually seems like your brain

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gets taken over and you kind of just go zombie

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yeah but fast zombie and strong zombie right

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real bubbly zombies though yeah i want to see

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weak zombie like malnourished zombie movie where

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like they they don't really like catch you or

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anything they just kind of shuffle at you and

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like can barely get their arms up but you could

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like push them over my musculature is rotting

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away they had those in the walking dead actually

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they were like the real malnourished ones and

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stuff they get like real weak and shit and then

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they like chain them up perfect yeah i want to

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live 28 days later too oh yeah that's true oh

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we haven't seen that one yet 28 days later? Oh,

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wait, no. Sorry, what did I say? You said days.

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I was thinking 28 years later. Yeah, I haven't

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seen that one yet. Likewise. And you haven't

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gone to the Bone Temple? That's the other one.

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Oh, okay. No, I guess not. You haven't been to

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the Bone Temple? Is that a different film than

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28 Years Later? I think it is a different film.

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I am not entirely sure and don't care. I'm so

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confused by the 28. universe the show the movie

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really starts with rose mcgowan and we should

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probably talk about the whole brought to you

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by the weinstein company this is rose mcgowan

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not the weinstein company brought to you by your

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friends yeah yeah at the weinstein company i

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heard that and i just went oh yeah and then i

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realized it was rose mcgowan and i was like oh

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no oh yeah um sad now so she's not a stripper

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she's a go -go dancer which go -go not cry cry

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right thank you yeah that was one of the lines

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that i actually wrote down we were talking and

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about um i was writing down good lines and then

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i just gave up because there were so many of

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them there's a lot of like witty one -liners

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in this especially at the beginning like i feel

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like it hits like a lot hard oh yeah they got

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all their best writing out yeah and then they're

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like now it's just gonna be like zombie heads

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popping and then occasionally we'll give you

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another good quip yeah yeah okay so she leaves

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um she gets bumped into a trash can and cuts

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her leg and then she goes to a barbecue joint

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called the bone shack tight name yeah my favorite

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is later when it's very on fire and all you see

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is the barbecue sign i was like spot on yeah

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Art masterpiece. Yeah. Oh, so we kind of forgot

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one part. So Bruce Willis wants all the DC to

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write from the weird drug dealer. Naveen Andrews,

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the scientist who also has the weird ball jar.

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And I just did not want to miss the ball jar.

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I was going to get to that. The most 80s scientist

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ever, including the blazer with the rolled up

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sleeves and the headband. Yeah, that was a pretty

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good look. Why did he have the ball? Why was

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that a thing? He liked to collect balls. Yeah,

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when you're a bad guy, you like to cut off balls.

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And he had the knife and the cool scissors for

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it. He had the cool ball tools. He did have cool

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ball tools. What was the middle part of the ball

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scissors for? I think just an anchor point. It

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was like a scissor with a knife in the middle.

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I think you just get that into the taint and

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then it... Oh, I thought maybe it was a sounding

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situation. It goes up the middle. I don't like

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that either. I don't like any of this. maybe

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it's there like it's not sharp or anything it's

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just there in the center to split the balls so

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that way you get one ball around either side

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so when it cuts oh that makes more sense it does

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make sense you can watch them individually and

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you know maybe it protects the ball the gonad

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yeah i'll say this though when they do cut off

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someone's balls they come out one at a time they

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throw one over their shoulder and then the other

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one comes later yeah so uh i was that with the

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scissors or was that when he had his i was sure

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that was this is like hook knife yeah i think

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it was the scissors but yeah and then like Immediately,

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the hubris of having a ball jar smashes on the

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ground. He ends up getting a face full of balls.

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But then he's just stuffing them in his pocket.

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He scrambles like, yeah, he's like, no, not my

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balls. The stuffing the balls in his pocket was

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probably one of the funniest things in this film.

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Incredible, incredible scene. Like, I don't even

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think Naveen Andrews is a great actor, but I

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was just like, this is amazing. This is amazing.

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Goopy ball on your face, shuttling him in your

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pockets, running away. He does have my favorite.

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He does have my favorite onscreen death in this

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film. You know, thinking back to Con Air and

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like having to make a fake Dave Chappelle, I

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was also really laughing at the idea of having

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to make a fake Naveen Andrews like exploded head

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doll like that because it does look like him.

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Just the. Yeah. The actual practical effects

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for like the gore and like the exploding heads

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and like torsos. Best part of this film. So Cherry

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Darling gets to the bone shack, which really

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does sound like a porno. And meets her ex -boyfriend.

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El Rey. Played by Freddy Rodriguez. Based on

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the context clues, is also a former. Badass.

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Army soldier. But he's really good at twirling

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guns. Okay. That boy's got the devil in him.

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I love the scene where he gets the guns and they're

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like, he's showing off with his like, he's showing

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off his cool gun tricks and his cool gun twirls,

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but they have to keep cutting like the shot.

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Yeah. I mean, it makes it look like it's a far

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lower budget film. Yeah. Which is great. So let's

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see. So Fergie is there. Fergie is the girlfriend

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of this doctor and doctor's wife situation. The

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doctor being some sadist played by Josh Brolin.

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Pretty good job. Not Kurt Russell. Not Kurt Russell.

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When the movie started, I was like, which one?

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Which movie is this? Is this the Kurt Russell

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one? They have a kid together who's a dipshit.

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So Sean, you saw the actual movie, right? Like

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the actual two releases. Not like the double

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feature. Was there a post credit scene with the

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kid? Yes. OK, I didn't see that because the version

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I had didn't have that. I didn't see that. That

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it's I just watched like I just rewatched Planet

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Terror before this and I like was skipping to

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the end to see if like the extra trailers were

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at the end of it. And that's the first time I

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saw it, whereas it's just the kid on the beach

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at the end of the film with all of his pets.

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For our listeners, the kid dies in the film,

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shoots himself in the face. yeah like definitely

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dead um but then at the end of the movie it's

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just him on the beach with his animals so shrug

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I don't like beaches. What did this in the double

00:25:07.990 --> 00:25:13.089
feature? Whoa. Whoa. Hold on, Sean. No, I don't

00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:14.869
care for beaches. You don't like beaches? No.

00:25:15.049 --> 00:25:17.509
I also don't really like beaches. Fuck beaches.

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Beaches suck. You guys are all anti beach. Yeah.

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And I lived in Florida for 10 years. Damn. All

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right. I kind of like beaches. I'm pro beach.

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They're boring. They are boring. It's where dirt

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meets water. What was the runtime for this? This

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one was 90. 90. Okay. So. I was wondering if

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they, you know, maybe cut the double feature

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for time, but it doesn't sound like it. I looked

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up. I actually looked up the Wikipedia page that

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is just now because I feel bad for not remembering

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the plot. And as I'm sitting here reading the

00:25:45.180 --> 00:25:46.900
plot, as we're all talking about it, I don't

00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.339
feel bad for not remembering the plot anymore.

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It's incredibly stupid. Remarkably thin. Yeah.

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There's barely a plot. Cherry Darlene, Rose McGowan

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gets. her and the el rey get attacked by zombies

00:25:58.259 --> 00:26:01.799
she gets her leg ripped off torn off right he

00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:04.579
gets arrested because the cops don't like him

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they go to the hospital yeah i mean the main

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share the sheriff played by the third best bean

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michael bean michael bean third to sean bean

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best bean and second best bean mr bean yep sean

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mr michael that's how it goes Holy shit. So I

00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.380
went to Rachel's Teatro Zanzani show last night

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and they had a character named Mr. Peepy, who

00:26:27.339 --> 00:26:31.559
basically was a Mr. Bean type person, you know,

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sort of walking around and making strange sounds

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that are almost like talking. But he did this

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.119
thing where he juggled three ping pong balls

00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:40.920
with his mouth. That was incredible. It was really

00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.440
good. Do you get his number? Yeah, man. Fuck

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.359
yeah. Let's let's throw up. We got at least three

00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.750
balls right here. Yes. I got a whole bag of balls.

00:26:50.569 --> 00:26:53.670
Call Naveen Andrews. A weirdly fancy jar for

00:26:53.670 --> 00:26:56.230
your balls. Yes. It looked like the thing that

00:26:56.230 --> 00:27:00.490
in the rock that they kept the balls in. I think

00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.400
that was also called DC2. well when you uh it

00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.700
wasn't when you have so many balls that you want

00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:08.859
to display you really splurge on your ball container

00:27:08.859 --> 00:27:11.480
ball yeah i wonder i want it to be one of those

00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:13.240
things where like it has you put a light bulb

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.960
in the bottom of it and just sort of like a lava

00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.279
lamp eventually they start moving fast you gotta

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:24.259
warm up though the balls bit reminded me of the

00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:27.059
bruce willis scenes for some reason uh is bruce

00:27:27.059 --> 00:27:28.900
willis actually in this movie with anybody or

00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:31.000
is he just shot separately I think he might be

00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.839
shot separately. I don't think he's ever actually

00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.140
on screen at the same time with anybody. I mean,

00:27:36.140 --> 00:27:37.660
maybe with some like background actors running

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:39.700
around. Right. There would be people standing

00:27:39.700 --> 00:27:42.259
behind him or something. Yeah. OK, so, yeah,

00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:44.339
plot line. Let's see. Let's let's speed run this.

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.180
So Cherry Darling loses her leg. The doctors

00:27:47.180 --> 00:27:49.880
are all at the hospital. Lady Doctor escapes

00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.440
from bad husband doctor after Fergie is trying

00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.359
to kill her brain. Yeah, she leaps right out

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.579
of the window. Yeah, that's pretty cool. A bunch

00:27:57.579 --> 00:28:01.000
of trash. When she opens up the door and like

00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.720
she can't. I forgot about that. Like when I first

00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.140
from like initial watching and then the other

00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:09.940
day it was just like when she shoves her hand

00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:13.140
down in there and the like slips and falls. Oh,

00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:16.059
God. Breaks her wrist. That's the part of this

00:28:16.059 --> 00:28:18.640
film that I always forget about and hate. Yeah.

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.519
Yeah. It gets a reaction. Yeah. Like after he

00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.769
she gets drugged up, she loses like. you know

00:28:26.769 --> 00:28:29.029
find muscle control in her hand so there's a

00:28:29.029 --> 00:28:33.809
lot of like flopping around to do stuff she tries

00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:35.269
to open the door by like sticking her hand in

00:28:35.269 --> 00:28:37.150
the handle and like opening hitting the latch

00:28:37.150 --> 00:28:40.549
with her foot what else i mean what there's nothing

00:28:40.549 --> 00:28:42.509
important in this movie it's like it's incredibly

00:28:42.509 --> 00:28:48.450
stupid uh so they patch up cherry's leg at the

00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:51.109
hospital right and for some reason at the bottom

00:28:51.109 --> 00:28:53.339
they put in this giant Well, they put in that

00:28:53.339 --> 00:28:59.759
giant metal square. Yeah. Future mounting. They

00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.960
give her like a Barrett arm from Final Fantasy

00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.019
7. That comes back to play. Yeah, sure does.

00:29:06.259 --> 00:29:09.460
And then jam a table leg on it, which works somehow.

00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.900
No, the hospital didn't do that. No, they were

00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:16.980
a little more delicate about the situation. Them

00:29:16.980 --> 00:29:18.779
escaping from the hospital is one of my favorite

00:29:18.779 --> 00:29:22.299
scenes. Just Rose McGowan like. On the fake leg,

00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.119
just like stumbling around. It's done so well.

00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.799
And El Rey just like fucking working those knives.

00:29:28.140 --> 00:29:31.440
Yeah, with butterfly knives. He never misses.

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.220
Yeah, it was a good line. Escaping from the hospital

00:29:38.220 --> 00:29:41.640
with the cops, they get back to the bone shack

00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:47.099
and we get the history. behind cherry darling

00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:51.200
and lra um cut to sex scene cut to film burning

00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.119
away and scene missing sorry and then other movie

00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.160
or just we're gonna just skip all the boring

00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:01.380
parts and just get to the action they spent so

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:04.799
much time on that sex scene too it's like really

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.700
luxuriating in it it was like all right i understand

00:30:07.700 --> 00:30:11.920
what's going on here but like come on yeah it's

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:16.109
no big top peewee makeout scene but But what

00:30:16.109 --> 00:30:20.410
is? This movie does one thing right that I do

00:30:20.410 --> 00:30:24.250
absolutely love from this type of cinema. Having

00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:26.170
just rewatched the original Highlander, which

00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:29.890
I'd put as like a high budget grindhouse film

00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:34.930
in a lot of ways. The monster, enemy, whatever,

00:30:35.089 --> 00:30:38.890
like a bad thing coming just out of the periphery

00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:41.869
of everyone there and nobody saw it. Like when

00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:44.049
the cop's going to give the deputy his ring.

00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.400
And the zombie like jumps out of just to the

00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.220
right of the camera and nobody saw him. Nobody

00:30:51.220 --> 00:30:54.279
notices it. Yeah, right. Yeah. But I feel like

00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.700
that's that kind of shit's intentional in this,

00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.799
right? Like it's very purposefully dumb, right?

00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.539
Yeah. Now, like I said, I just rewatched Highlander

00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:06.460
and every like fight scene is Clancy Brown coming

00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:10.039
just slightly to the left. Chris Lambert just

00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.539
like coming just. They've been having like a

00:31:12.539 --> 00:31:14.180
five minute conversation and Clancy Brown just

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:18.059
like jumps out of. Just to the left and no one

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:21.500
saw him there. Well, he is blind. Yeah, well,

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:23.180
it makes sense when you realize Chris Lambert

00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:27.500
is legally blind. Plotline stuff, John, anything

00:31:27.500 --> 00:31:30.839
else that you feel like to talk about? no it's

00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.519
just a it's it's a there's a lot of badass action

00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:38.960
scenes rose so rose mcgowan slash cherry um eventually

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.920
replaces table leg with a gun grenade launcher

00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.059
yeah ray does that i don't remember what it is

00:31:45.059 --> 00:31:47.180
it's that cool gun that's got like yeah like

00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:49.480
an m16 or whatever like whatever it's got a grenade

00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.420
launcher on it it also has a bayonet but the

00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:55.900
blade doesn't stick past the barrel so why because

00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:58.640
it looks cool for chopping yeah it's only for

00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.990
chopping Also, from the school of action movies,

00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:04.309
John Woo action movies where no one has to reload

00:32:04.309 --> 00:32:07.789
at the end of this film, she's like grenade launching

00:32:07.789 --> 00:32:10.609
herself over walls and shit. I was so hoping

00:32:10.609 --> 00:32:12.269
that was going to happen at some point and then

00:32:12.269 --> 00:32:15.109
it did. Yeah, worth it. It's like stand up in

00:32:15.109 --> 00:32:16.630
the movie theater clapping. You're like, hell

00:32:16.630 --> 00:32:20.089
yeah, this is for me. Yeah, the rocket jumps

00:32:20.089 --> 00:32:23.029
great. As I'm watching this film and I'm kind

00:32:23.029 --> 00:32:26.029
of like, you know, debating whether or not, you

00:32:26.029 --> 00:32:29.200
know, genre like. genre picture works like is

00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.400
this a spoof is it not is it too serious is it

00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.599
like going far enough and it's only this last

00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.480
like 10 minutes of the film when it gets to just

00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.059
this craziness i'm like this is what this entire

00:32:38.059 --> 00:32:39.240
movie should have been we shouldn't have been

00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.559
building up to this we should have just started

00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.019
at 10 and kept going i don't know i thought it

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:48.759
was fun nonsense i really enjoy this so i started

00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.579
got up early this morning and watched started

00:32:50.579 --> 00:32:53.859
watching it with headphones on um And then Marcy

00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.220
got up about 45 minutes and she, you know, had

00:32:56.220 --> 00:32:59.700
a cup of coffee and sat down and started watching

00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:01.460
it with me. And she's like, this is awesome.

00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:05.859
Like, it's just a fun, stupid watch. There's

00:33:05.859 --> 00:33:08.839
stupid, bad movies, which is kind of the hallmark

00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.099
of the genre, the genre that they're working

00:33:12.099 --> 00:33:15.240
off of. And as like actual grindhouse films,

00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.339
I don't think they're really. Well, I mean, they

00:33:19.339 --> 00:33:22.690
can't really be. actual grindhouse films 30 million

00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:25.930
dollar budget yes exactly by two massive you

00:33:25.930 --> 00:33:28.230
know at the time superstar directors yeah but

00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:31.970
as films of like oh you know i saw and i like

00:33:31.970 --> 00:33:36.269
these films clearly too much money and too much

00:33:36.269 --> 00:33:40.630
talent can make it like just look inauthentic

00:33:40.630 --> 00:33:43.950
but yeah it feels like like these directors know

00:33:43.950 --> 00:33:47.609
the style and they're just having a lot of fun

00:33:47.609 --> 00:33:52.230
with it um I enjoy watching both of these movies.

00:33:52.269 --> 00:33:58.349
I liked the effects a lot in Planet Terror. And

00:33:58.349 --> 00:34:01.009
the comedy for me was really good. Yeah. Yeah.

00:34:01.089 --> 00:34:03.609
I mean, it's it's just a fun, dorky little watch.

00:34:03.690 --> 00:34:05.369
You're not you're not going to be a better person

00:34:05.369 --> 00:34:07.230
for watching. You might be a worse person. No,

00:34:07.230 --> 00:34:10.809
probably not a worse person. I watched the two

00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:13.050
movies backwards because I had remembered liking

00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:16.030
Death Proof the first time I saw this in theaters

00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:19.210
back in 2007. And I was like, I'm going to start

00:34:19.210 --> 00:34:22.050
there. And I wish I hadn't. Well, maybe I'm glad

00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:24.130
that I did. But I ended up liking Planet Terror

00:34:24.130 --> 00:34:27.150
a lot more than I remembered because it was like

00:34:27.150 --> 00:34:29.869
very dumb. And it was the right kind of dumb

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:33.590
for me at my age right now, maybe. So I was as

00:34:33.590 --> 00:34:36.309
I was watching this or as I was watching Death

00:34:36.309 --> 00:34:38.489
Proof, I was like, these movies should have been

00:34:38.489 --> 00:34:40.949
in reverse order. I feel like I would have been

00:34:40.949 --> 00:34:45.190
much more into the kind of slowish burn of Death

00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:47.869
Proof at the beginning, whereas coming off of.

00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:51.119
um planet terror i was like it's kind of boring

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.320
i think that was probably an intentional well

00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.219
my understanding is the way this originally happened

00:34:57.219 --> 00:34:59.519
was robert rodriguez was just like i got this

00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.480
fun schlocky idea for like a grindhouse style

00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.599
film that he was trying to sell to tarantino

00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.559
to like help produce and he's like that's great

00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.460
i'll make one too and tarantino just kind of

00:35:09.460 --> 00:35:12.940
like glommed onto this as a project and probably

00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:15.440
helped get some funding for it overall i don't

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.820
know rodriguez had all that spy kids money But

00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:25.420
in terms of like commercial commercials and advertising

00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:30.559
this film, I don't think that if they went. Death

00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:31.940
Proof forward, because I remember the original

00:35:31.940 --> 00:35:35.340
ad campaign was all Planet Terror and like some

00:35:35.340 --> 00:35:37.340
just shots of like car chases from Death Proof.

00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:38.940
But I think if they went Death Proof forward,

00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.739
this wouldn't have gotten as much buzz around

00:35:41.739 --> 00:35:47.199
it in the mid aughts or interest. The main thing

00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.599
I remember from the advertising was Gun Leg.

00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:53.179
Yeah. And I was 17 when this came out. Perfect

00:35:53.179 --> 00:35:57.159
age for Gun Leg. For Gun Leg. Never saw it. Yeah.

00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.920
Interesting. Yeah. Well, I remember when this

00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:01.340
came out because I did see it in theaters with

00:36:01.340 --> 00:36:03.159
friends like opening night and thoroughly enjoyed

00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.960
it. I think having the shorter of the two because

00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.099
the Tarantino films two hours. I think if you

00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:11.820
would have gone into that, then there was a break.

00:36:11.900 --> 00:36:14.780
I think people might have walked. um but i remember

00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:16.920
after seeing it loving it when i originally saw

00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.320
it and like going to college talking to just

00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.039
average people about the film and they're like

00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:23.659
a double feature i don't know if i could sit

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:26.579
in a theater that long i'm like you've watched

00:36:26.579 --> 00:36:28.099
all of the lord of the rings films in the theater

00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:29.599
you could have sat through this it's not that

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:33.000
bad too long you get a fucking intermission i

00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.599
love an intermission yeah well i went to see

00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.840
the hateful eight um so quinn tarantino did the

00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.199
hateful eight and that was on some fancy film

00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.440
whatever and they only showed it in that fancy

00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.900
film in like a dozen, maybe two dozen theaters

00:36:47.900 --> 00:36:50.699
around the country. And one of them was near

00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:52.960
me in Florida and actually went and did it. And

00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.579
they did that whole shtick. There was like an,

00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.780
like a solid 15, 20 minute intermission in the

00:36:57.780 --> 00:36:59.760
middle. Cause it's a long movie. Yeah. And like,

00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.980
you know, you got like this big handout thing.

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.139
It was a whole extra deal. But yeah, intermission

00:37:05.139 --> 00:37:07.599
is kind of nice. I mean, as a person who definitely

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.420
has to pee every movie somewhere in the middle,

00:37:10.500 --> 00:37:14.380
like I'm pro intermission. Well, I will say when

00:37:14.380 --> 00:37:16.139
this movie came out, there was no intermission.

00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.219
It's a bench. Watch movies at home. I just be

00:37:19.219 --> 00:37:24.260
on the couch then. You're right. Yeah, the trailers

00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:28.440
exist not as an intermission, but as just a transitionary.

00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.360
And I remember my friends and I went to the midnight

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.099
show of this, so we didn't get home till like

00:37:33.099 --> 00:37:37.780
4 a .m. Yeah. OK, well, let's switch to Death

00:37:37.780 --> 00:37:40.139
Proof then and we can talk about Tarantino's

00:37:40.139 --> 00:37:44.820
love of feet. yeah feet on display it's so it's

00:37:44.820 --> 00:37:49.579
so egregious in this film well it's in a lot

00:37:49.579 --> 00:37:53.380
of his shit i remember uh pulp fiction yeah i

00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:55.179
know and i've like i've never paid that much

00:37:55.179 --> 00:37:57.460
attention to it until i knew about it and then

00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:59.599
the first shot of this film is just bare feet

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.699
well so so maya hawk was getting interviewed

00:38:02.699 --> 00:38:07.179
and uh her mom's uma thurman and her mom because

00:38:07.179 --> 00:38:09.199
my did something with Tarantino. I can't remember.

00:38:09.539 --> 00:38:13.420
Uh, I think it's, um, once upon a time in Hollywood,

00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.019
she's one of the characters in there. And her

00:38:16.019 --> 00:38:19.480
only advice to her daughter was keep your shoes

00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:27.500
on. Uh, pervy ass Tarantino. I enjoy this film

00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:31.099
more personally. Um, so how do we want to discuss

00:38:31.099 --> 00:38:32.519
this movie? Cause technically I feel like it's

00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.329
two movies. Well, yeah, I mean, that's a good

00:38:35.329 --> 00:38:37.630
point. I mean, there's sort of the invincible

00:38:37.630 --> 00:38:40.570
version of Stuntman Mike. And then there's the

00:38:40.570 --> 00:38:43.550
other. There's yeah, there's the initial with

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:47.230
Jungle Julia, the girls night at a bar. And there's

00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:50.289
this creepy Kurt Russell character, Stuntman

00:38:50.289 --> 00:38:52.190
Mike, who's just kind of hovering around all

00:38:52.190 --> 00:38:55.829
night. And then yet another Rose McGowan. At

00:38:55.829 --> 00:38:58.590
the end of the film, serial killer, but uses

00:38:58.590 --> 00:39:02.579
his car as a murder weapon. Nice little concept.

00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.880
Nice slow burn. A lot of fun. It's done in the

00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:11.019
same grindhouse effect as Planet Terror. It's

00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:13.980
got the grain filter. Technically takes place

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:15.480
in the same universe because we see the hospital,

00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.199
the sheriff, and the doctor. Jungle Julia gets

00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.079
a shout out in Planet Terror. yeah which was

00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.980
also interesting because they they say like you

00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:29.619
know rest in peace jungle julia in planet terror

00:39:29.619 --> 00:39:32.320
um which obviously doesn't mean jack shit to

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:33.900
you at that time if you're watching it in sequence

00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:36.539
but i thought again if these were flipped movies

00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:38.940
you would get more of that but you know whatever

00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:42.420
i guess the world is ruined at the end of no

00:39:42.420 --> 00:39:43.940
that makes even more sense the world is ruined

00:39:43.940 --> 00:39:46.840
at the end of planet terror so yeah yeah so we

00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.500
have that and uh so and apparently planet terror

00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:53.730
takes place in austin if this is the case sure

00:39:53.730 --> 00:39:56.130
yeah but then we have you know we have that great

00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:58.369
like murder scene where kurt russell like drives

00:39:58.369 --> 00:40:00.829
through the car and we see each girl's death

00:40:00.829 --> 00:40:03.309
in the car get more and more gruesome with each

00:40:03.309 --> 00:40:06.090
death what was the deal with the cigarette lighter

00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:09.510
because he pulls his cigarette no that's uh the

00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:12.010
headlights in old cars your headlights were a

00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:15.150
little pole thingy yeah before my time and then

00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:17.710
hard cut from there and then we go to the hospital

00:40:17.710 --> 00:40:20.679
scene then we get a hard cut to just a tarantino

00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.800
film it starts off in black and white they lose

00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.219
the grain filter and it's just 14 months later

00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:29.059
i think is the time transition but it's another

00:40:29.059 --> 00:40:33.199
movie and outside of crazy guy in a car there's

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:37.179
no connection yeah i never really yeah you're

00:40:37.179 --> 00:40:39.199
right it was super disconnected i never understood

00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.820
the motivation like yeah you know serial killer

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:43.500
whatever like you need to have a little bit of

00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:46.000
a motivation yeah it's more than yeah find people

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.000
who have like hot cars or something that you're

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.699
like no i'm the better i'm the better driver

00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:52.219
you know whatever it might be but it just seemed

00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:55.280
like sort of random because it was jungle julia

00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.420
butterfly who also was a dancer i think maybe

00:40:58.420 --> 00:41:02.000
i can't remember um just like two random yeah

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.309
i think friends of theirs and yeah yeah i don't

00:41:05.309 --> 00:41:06.909
know i feel bad for butterfly she got fucked

00:41:06.909 --> 00:41:09.590
yeah well there's connections you know it's groups

00:41:09.590 --> 00:41:13.130
of girls uh four girls each time yeah uh one

00:41:13.130 --> 00:41:16.050
of them at least has to be black it's true uh

00:41:16.050 --> 00:41:19.090
one of them has to be from somewhere else because

00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:22.789
they have an accent uh new york and not australian

00:41:22.789 --> 00:41:25.070
yeah i found myself getting annoyed by a lot

00:41:25.070 --> 00:41:28.210
of the the extended lingering shots um not just

00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:30.329
defeat but like when kurt russell's like taking

00:41:30.329 --> 00:41:33.099
photos of the second group of girls uh coming

00:41:33.099 --> 00:41:35.739
out of the airport and we just have like 90 seconds,

00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.599
two minutes of just like shutter shots and stuff.

00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.199
Like we get it. He's creepy. Move on. This movie

00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.539
is two hours long. I don't need this. It's certainly

00:41:43.539 --> 00:41:49.719
not two minutes. It's over a minute. I, okay.

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.219
I like the concept, the idea of a stunt man with

00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:57.880
a death proof car using that to go kill people.

00:41:58.489 --> 00:42:00.570
That sounds super cool, but like the movie just

00:42:00.570 --> 00:42:03.409
did not pay off on that at all. No, it set it

00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:07.429
up and then just totally fucked it over. Not

00:42:07.429 --> 00:42:10.170
to say that the ending isn't still kind of fun,

00:42:10.329 --> 00:42:14.789
but they just feel disconnected. I did not like

00:42:14.789 --> 00:42:17.469
this nearly as much as I liked Planet Terror.

00:42:18.710 --> 00:42:21.269
And I think part of it was because of the order,

00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:22.929
like I was talking about earlier, is like Planet

00:42:22.929 --> 00:42:26.880
Terror is just like. constant action one -liners

00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.539
like real fun and then you switch to this and

00:42:28.539 --> 00:42:30.500
it's more of a slow burn before you get to any

00:42:30.500 --> 00:42:37.440
real like action or anything and um yeah it just

00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.179
doesn't have enough to really like pull you in

00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:43.840
or at least me yeah yeah it's a long burn to

00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.559
even get to the first kill scene and then you

00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:48.079
know all these people even like trying to pay

00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.190
attention to as characters get fucking definitely

00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:54.789
murdered in gruesome ways butterfly's face gets

00:42:54.789 --> 00:42:57.769
tired off but i mean it works as a horror it

00:42:57.769 --> 00:42:59.730
works as a short little slasher horror film it's

00:42:59.730 --> 00:43:02.269
like because each movie is about 60 each half

00:43:02.269 --> 00:43:04.130
is about 60 minutes and it works where you have

00:43:04.130 --> 00:43:06.750
the killer kind of like you get to know him like

00:43:06.750 --> 00:43:08.769
he seems like a nice enough guy a little creepy

00:43:08.769 --> 00:43:11.389
a little you know but and then you get to the

00:43:11.389 --> 00:43:15.050
murderizing and then the second half isn't about

00:43:15.050 --> 00:43:18.179
him at all and he's barely the only association

00:43:18.179 --> 00:43:20.920
is he shows up at the end like he sees the girls

00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:22.480
at the beginning and then he shows up at the

00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:26.300
end but there's not the same bill to it to his

00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:29.179
attack on them yeah that that second one definitely

00:43:29.179 --> 00:43:31.159
doesn't make any sense i mean it's a love letter

00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:36.079
to um old hollywood stunt driving uh the australian

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.539
chick is a stunt woman new zealand they did all

00:43:39.539 --> 00:43:42.719
that stuff new zealand um yeah they specifically

00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.679
call that out yeah that's you know so it's a

00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.400
love letter to that and that part's great but

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.380
it's just an excuse to have that chase sequence

00:43:50.380 --> 00:43:55.320
without having an actual plot yeah i will say

00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.340
this the chase sequence is pretty solid pretty

00:43:57.340 --> 00:43:59.219
good i really enjoyed them as chase sequences

00:43:59.219 --> 00:44:03.119
yeah i did like that um i also liked the transition

00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.360
from stuntman mike being this sort of like invulnerable

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.760
asshole like force to getting shot and being

00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.119
like a super bitch baby yeah like squealing almost

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.099
the beat down he gets at the end is also terrific

00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:19.219
pretty fantastic yeah also i like the clips like

00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:22.039
in the middle like um it would cut to two different

00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.119
shots without actually like moving the camera

00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.659
it's like they cut out like you know 10 frames

00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:31.360
or something it just goes yeah Uh, also, uh,

00:44:31.579 --> 00:44:33.679
the three girls who go off in the car, uh, bad

00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.099
friends. Cause they left their, uh, they left

00:44:36.099 --> 00:44:41.139
their one friend there with sling blade. Her

00:44:41.139 --> 00:44:47.860
last line in the film is gulp. Especially because

00:44:47.860 --> 00:44:52.219
they, they dress like a cheerleader. They tell

00:44:52.219 --> 00:44:53.840
them she's like a porn star or something. Yeah,

00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.500
exactly. Oh, was it one of those pornos? It's

00:44:57.500 --> 00:44:59.539
like, here you go, Lee. Enjoy entertaining this

00:44:59.539 --> 00:45:03.019
guy while we steal his car. Bye, friend. All

00:45:03.019 --> 00:45:05.760
because the one girl wanted to drive that specific

00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.119
car. Yeah. And then never drove it. Yeah. She

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.159
wanted to ride on the hood of that specific car.

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.039
Oh, yeah. It started with she wanted to drive

00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.639
it. And then once she was there, she was like,

00:45:16.739 --> 00:45:19.440
I want to do the ship's mast. Ship's mast. Yeah.

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.960
Oh, I will say my favorite quote from these films

00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.800
does come from Death Proof. And it's. the connecting

00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.760
bit of death proof and, uh, planet terror when

00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.039
they're in the hospital and you have, uh, the

00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:37.360
doctor's, um, dad, uh, sheriff goes talking about

00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:41.099
why Kurt Russell killed these girls. Well, I

00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:45.480
guesstimate it's a sex thing. My favorite line

00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.719
from this movie or these movies was in the machete

00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:52.000
trailer. He's talking to his priest buddy, trying

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.929
to like pull him in and he goes, like a cheech

00:45:54.929 --> 00:45:57.590
marin yeah and he goes like thanks bro i mean

00:45:57.590 --> 00:46:05.489
padre to uh very enjoyable scripts of bad writing

00:46:05.489 --> 00:46:08.710
but like purposefully bad writing i feel like

00:46:08.710 --> 00:46:11.650
yeah which is kind of how i get to the point

00:46:11.650 --> 00:46:14.150
of like i mean they miss the mark of being actual

00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:18.210
grindhouse films but they're uh they're still

00:46:18.210 --> 00:46:20.230
enjoyable well i think this is a good time then

00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:22.050
to talk about some of that shit right like you

00:46:22.050 --> 00:46:24.409
you did a bigger dive into the actual grindhouse

00:46:24.409 --> 00:46:26.670
movies so like one what movies did you watch

00:46:26.670 --> 00:46:29.909
two which ones were best and then three you know

00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:34.130
like what's your takeaway on that genre uh so

00:46:34.130 --> 00:46:38.789
okay yeah there's since it's kind of a broad

00:46:38.789 --> 00:46:44.489
genre that's mostly you know uh best characterized

00:46:44.489 --> 00:46:49.900
by like low budget action horror And I watched

00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:52.440
a couple different types of movies. So I watched

00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.380
a couple of Pam Grier movies. I watched Coffee

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:59.559
where she is a shotgun toting nurse that goes

00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.320
around and kills bad people. Like she's just

00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:07.079
a nurse vigilante with a shotgun. Pretty cool.

00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.099
Then I watched a movie called Dead End Drive

00:47:10.099 --> 00:47:13.860
-In. This one's a post -apocalyptic. movie where

00:47:13.860 --> 00:47:17.719
jails or uh drive -in movies are used as uh jails

00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.380
for people and so this kid and his girlfriend

00:47:21.380 --> 00:47:24.159
go there and like they're kind of shitty people

00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:26.619
and while they're watching the movie the cops

00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:29.440
steal the tires off of his car so they can't

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.460
leave and it's in the middle of nowhere so that's

00:47:32.460 --> 00:47:35.599
how these kids get stuck in there and it's all

00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:39.179
uh an adventure of trying to like get all their

00:47:39.179 --> 00:47:40.880
stuff to get out but it's like as soon as he

00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.280
gets tired somebody steals part of his engine

00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.940
so it's like oh well it's like the surfer yeah

00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:48.840
you just always stuck there you definitely can't

00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:54.059
just walk nope i watched uh white mom black mama

00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:58.059
white mama which is pam greer and some white

00:47:58.059 --> 00:48:00.500
lady i love how much pam greer is in all of these

00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:04.780
like so cool the lady from archer was she an

00:48:04.780 --> 00:48:07.500
archer yeah she's one of the voices in archer

00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.079
uh so yeah i'm gonna continue on uh they're like

00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.360
handcuffed together and they're escaping from

00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.099
prison but they're like two completely different

00:48:19.099 --> 00:48:22.039
kinds of people like pam greer is a prostitute

00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:28.280
and uh different one yeah is the character name

00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.480
oh yeah it's judy greer is the actress and then

00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.780
pam is the badass character i think we combined

00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:39.429
not played by judy greer Correct. Carol slash

00:48:39.429 --> 00:48:43.530
Cheryl slash Charlene. Sorry. Outlaw country.

00:48:44.449 --> 00:48:47.869
Nailed it. So, yeah, it's a prostitute and a

00:48:47.869 --> 00:48:50.769
revolutionary like handcuffed together as they

00:48:50.769 --> 00:48:53.010
try to escape jail. But they have different motivations,

00:48:53.050 --> 00:48:56.050
so they have to work all that out. That sounds

00:48:56.050 --> 00:48:58.409
great. Yeah, these movies sound kind of awesome.

00:48:58.469 --> 00:49:01.170
Dude, they're all fucking great. That also makes

00:49:01.170 --> 00:49:02.849
me think of Crippled Masters again. But, you

00:49:02.849 --> 00:49:04.809
know, I don't know to dive into that right now.

00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.659
so after that i went a little harder and i went

00:49:08.659 --> 00:49:13.119
to ilsa she wolf of the ss and that one is uh

00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.519
kind of like a combined story about a lot of

00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.119
the different horrors that were going on in the

00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.860
concentration camps of like medical experimentation

00:49:21.860 --> 00:49:25.460
and torture and all that wrapped into something

00:49:25.460 --> 00:49:29.579
that's borderline a porno and because every woman

00:49:29.579 --> 00:49:32.320
in this movie you will see topless at some point

00:49:32.809 --> 00:49:36.030
there's pretty good sex scenes in it no no pen

00:49:36.030 --> 00:49:39.269
but uh you know you get everything up to that

00:49:39.269 --> 00:49:44.389
point um you gotta earn that x rating yeah but

00:49:44.389 --> 00:49:48.610
that was pretty good lots of uh a very very gory

00:49:48.610 --> 00:49:53.659
kind of booby -filled movie so speaking of pam

00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:55.559
greer we should probably mention jackie brown

00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.059
since the time with quentin tarantino right which

00:49:58.059 --> 00:50:01.460
came out in i literally just looked at it 90s

00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:04.820
i was gonna say early 90s right 97 oh later than

00:50:04.820 --> 00:50:07.380
i saw 10 years before this but you know he's

00:50:07.380 --> 00:50:10.159
already got that kind of he's already delved

00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.860
into well that's black exploitation but yeah

00:50:12.860 --> 00:50:15.880
you know well all the exploitation films fit

00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.809
nicely into grind houses i like that there's

00:50:18.809 --> 00:50:21.409
a canadian exploitation sub -genre of that too

00:50:21.409 --> 00:50:28.110
what can exploitation oh well ilsa is a canadian

00:50:28.110 --> 00:50:30.949
film there we go perfect i got to claim i was

00:50:30.949 --> 00:50:32.750
watching foreign films that day that's right

00:50:32.750 --> 00:50:34.949
it's an art house film uh it's from another country

00:50:34.949 --> 00:50:38.909
it's okay i can watch this all the german peace

00:50:38.909 --> 00:50:42.969
stuff art film yeah but uh just watching all

00:50:42.969 --> 00:50:45.639
of them like they have kind of certainly different

00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.519
styles and different fields but it they all kind

00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.079
of they they jive the same way and like your

00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:55.400
acting is going to be pretty straightforward

00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.340
like uh just line deliveries and people like

00:51:00.340 --> 00:51:02.519
making it to where they need to stand like hitting

00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.019
all their marks and stuff like that that's the

00:51:05.019 --> 00:51:08.719
baseline yeah not a lot of retakes yeah no that's

00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:13.230
true film's expensive so um and In that, I can

00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:18.090
see the way Rodriguez and Tarantino were emulating

00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:21.570
the styles, but clearly there was just too much

00:51:21.570 --> 00:51:26.550
talent behind the work and too much money. Going

00:51:26.550 --> 00:51:30.969
to the talent behind the work, getting Hollywood

00:51:30.969 --> 00:51:35.150
actors, good Hollywood actors, to act bad is

00:51:35.150 --> 00:51:39.119
its own special kind of hell. yeah i bet everybody

00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.980
had a lot of fun filming these yeah i agree with

00:51:41.980 --> 00:51:45.800
that i'm sure i'm sure it was fun i just i watching

00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.739
good actors try and be bad actors is just painful

00:51:49.739 --> 00:51:52.539
for me yeah i would have preferred if these were

00:51:52.539 --> 00:51:57.099
like nobodies yeah Like the most we got, the

00:51:57.099 --> 00:52:00.460
best bad acting that seems very authentic is

00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:03.199
the kid who shoots his head off, which is one

00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.900
of Rodriguez's kids, I believe. Every kid is

00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:09.260
a terrible actor. They're so bad. They don't

00:52:09.260 --> 00:52:11.280
even know who they own are. One every generation

00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.860
turns out to be a good actor. I mean, fuck, dude.

00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:17.599
If I were a director, 100 % I would put my kids

00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.059
in these things. Why not? It's fun. Give it an

00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:23.119
opportunity for them to just have fun being silly.

00:52:23.630 --> 00:52:25.869
Like you get to hang out with your dad. That's

00:52:25.869 --> 00:52:29.389
how you get a Jaden Smith. Well, I mean, okay.

00:52:29.449 --> 00:52:31.909
So for every, for every Jaden Smith you get.

00:52:31.949 --> 00:52:34.110
What about the Apatow kids, right? Like they're

00:52:34.110 --> 00:52:36.869
in all of his movies and they don't, they seem

00:52:36.869 --> 00:52:40.309
normal teenagers by now. Probably. Yeah. I haven't

00:52:40.309 --> 00:52:42.530
heard any crazy shit. Yeah. But yeah, I mean,

00:52:42.550 --> 00:52:48.150
Jaden Smith is a outlier. Sofia Coppola. She

00:52:48.150 --> 00:52:50.230
just is a shitty actor. She's a fine director.

00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.119
Yeah, I'm just saying, like, don't don't cast

00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.440
your shitty kids in fucking movies. Cast other

00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.739
people's shitty kids in your shitty movies. That's

00:52:58.739 --> 00:53:01.000
right. But at least make sure those kids can

00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.260
fucking act. Yeah. I don't know. All in all for

00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:06.599
this, like, I felt pretty good about watching

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.719
it other than the time commitment, which was

00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.280
a stark reminder of the fact that we used to

00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.780
do two movies every single fucking episode. I

00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:16.219
don't miss that. Wow. That was a lot that we

00:53:16.219 --> 00:53:19.139
put on our plate for two and a half years or

00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:25.210
whatever it was. I think I will say my final

00:53:25.210 --> 00:53:26.710
thoughts on both these films. I enjoyed Death

00:53:26.710 --> 00:53:29.869
Proof a lot. I don't know that I'll ever watch

00:53:29.869 --> 00:53:33.630
Planet Terror again. It just does not instill

00:53:33.630 --> 00:53:38.590
joy in me at 41 as it did when I was 27. I think

00:53:38.590 --> 00:53:41.369
I lean pretty heavily in the same direction.

00:53:41.550 --> 00:53:46.039
I like Death Proof a lot. I like the suspense

00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.380
aspect of it. The kind of film where it's like

00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:54.519
you see Mike the Hunter and then you see the

00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.079
aspect of like the prey seeing Mike the Hunter.

00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.280
So it kind of flips the narrative in that on

00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.340
the split. I like the character that Kurt Russell

00:54:05.340 --> 00:54:10.030
gave. uh overall i like that movie a lot um and

00:54:10.030 --> 00:54:13.690
you know i fucking love car chases and cool stunt

00:54:13.690 --> 00:54:17.070
work so it's it's definitely filmed better it's

00:54:17.070 --> 00:54:19.469
a more beautiful film like i think it needed

00:54:19.469 --> 00:54:21.710
to not have the film grain garbage on it i mean

00:54:21.710 --> 00:54:24.210
that filter could have been deleted from both

00:54:24.210 --> 00:54:26.610
films and it would have been better i think if

00:54:26.610 --> 00:54:28.590
i watch death proof again i'm gonna watch the

00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:32.469
first half the actual like slasher film and then

00:54:32.469 --> 00:54:34.369
i'm gonna watch the last 20 minutes and i'm just

00:54:34.369 --> 00:54:39.809
gonna cut out All of the second group of girls

00:54:39.809 --> 00:54:43.909
like. Yeah, they're hanging out at a coffee shop

00:54:43.909 --> 00:54:45.389
or whatever. I don't need to know anything about

00:54:45.389 --> 00:54:48.829
these characters other than two of them are stunt

00:54:48.829 --> 00:54:50.969
women and they're going to get in a chase later.

00:54:51.469 --> 00:54:54.710
But Planet Terror, I liked enough. You know,

00:54:54.730 --> 00:54:57.030
I enjoy myself when I watch it. I don't think

00:54:57.030 --> 00:55:03.750
it's really that good. Even for like what I think

00:55:03.750 --> 00:55:06.780
it's trying to be. But, you know, it's enjoyable

00:55:06.780 --> 00:55:09.260
and it's fun. It's got great special effects.

00:55:09.340 --> 00:55:12.519
And I love good practical effects like popping

00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.440
the big like pustules on their faces. Oh, so

00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.980
gross. Oh, yeah. Greg Nicotero, by the way. Same

00:55:17.980 --> 00:55:22.159
guy that did Walking Dead and then actually took

00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.119
that show over. Like kind of a famous makeup

00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.860
guy. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean,

00:55:26.860 --> 00:55:28.360
you think about like that when they're driving

00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.099
El Rey's truck, you know, to escape towards the

00:55:31.099 --> 00:55:33.219
end. And it's just like. People getting slammed

00:55:33.219 --> 00:55:35.360
by it and turning into balloons. Does he call

00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.840
it the killdozer? He does. He does at one point.

00:55:38.300 --> 00:55:42.280
Oh, the helicopter. The helicopter is what I

00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.820
was going to mention. That was awesome. Also,

00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:49.880
that's not how physics work. No. No. The minibike.

00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:51.800
Did we need the minibike? Oh, my God. Was there

00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.619
a payoff to the minibike? Oh, my God. I don't

00:55:53.619 --> 00:55:55.679
care. No, it was amazing. Just seeing him with

00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.860
his legs splayed out in silhouette was incredible.

00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:02.760
Doing the wheelie as he rides off. uh that's

00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:04.800
just like that's the kind of fun that i got from

00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.019
that one that like i wanted both of them to have

00:56:07.019 --> 00:56:09.659
more of well planet terror is definitely like

00:56:09.659 --> 00:56:14.480
a a whole uh yeah horror comedy or whatever uh

00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.159
the comedy aspect is ingrained in it it's intentional

00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.900
and it's meant to be there and yeah yeah i would

00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:23.699
much rather watch planet terror over death proof

00:56:23.699 --> 00:56:27.960
um no that's fine Yeah, I know. My vote doesn't

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.340
count. I think what I've learned from this episode

00:56:30.340 --> 00:56:33.280
is I don't really care for either of these directors

00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:38.539
at this point in my life. Fair. So I don't remember

00:56:38.539 --> 00:56:40.059
who it was. Somebody was talking about how terrible

00:56:40.059 --> 00:56:42.460
it is watching good actors be bad actors. It

00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:47.579
was Sean. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. I like when

00:56:47.579 --> 00:56:50.760
I can see intentionality behind art and like

00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.949
watching these people clearly have. a blast being

00:56:53.949 --> 00:56:57.210
bad actors like it was just fun for me it was

00:56:57.210 --> 00:57:00.449
like watching um like a band on stage that's

00:57:00.449 --> 00:57:02.789
clearly having fun kind of thing i don't know

00:57:02.789 --> 00:57:05.690
it just gives me the warm and warm fuzzies you

00:57:05.690 --> 00:57:07.929
know i think back to some of my favorite low

00:57:07.929 --> 00:57:13.699
budget like films ice pirates You have a couple

00:57:13.699 --> 00:57:15.679
of people who went on to do great things, but

00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.019
you have like the main guy. I have no idea who

00:57:18.019 --> 00:57:20.340
the main guy is and he hams it up and he's cheesy

00:57:20.340 --> 00:57:21.940
and you know, he's trying his fucking hardest

00:57:21.940 --> 00:57:24.539
and that's why it works. See, I don't like that.

00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.559
As opposed to Bruce Willis being like, just kind

00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.500
of trying to act bad. And I'm just like, this

00:57:30.500 --> 00:57:34.000
is just weird and just stilted in a way that

00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.659
isn't authentic and doesn't like, it just seems

00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:42.110
a little try hard to be bad. Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:42.250 --> 00:57:44.210
I the Bruce Willis of it is hard because I think

00:57:44.210 --> 00:57:46.449
he's actually just kind of a shitty actor. But

00:57:46.449 --> 00:57:50.389
I literally turned to Marcy as we were watching

00:57:50.389 --> 00:57:52.789
this and I was like, I miss Bruce Willis. Yeah,

00:57:52.929 --> 00:57:55.230
me too. I mean, the classics are the classics,

00:57:55.289 --> 00:57:57.710
but like beyond the classics, it's like it's

00:57:57.710 --> 00:58:00.349
a bunch of dog shit. Yeah. Well, I was just kind

00:58:00.349 --> 00:58:01.849
of also thinking about just kind of like what

00:58:01.849 --> 00:58:03.849
went down with them, you know? Oh, totally. No,

00:58:03.889 --> 00:58:06.449
it's very sad. I mean, so much of his later output

00:58:06.449 --> 00:58:08.469
was just to try and make money for his family

00:58:08.469 --> 00:58:10.730
because he knew he was on borrowed time. Well,

00:58:10.769 --> 00:58:13.989
let's end on that beautiful high note. We miss

00:58:13.989 --> 00:58:17.429
you, Bruce Willis. Yeah, we love you. If you

00:58:17.429 --> 00:58:18.809
ever hear me say this, you're going to forget

00:58:18.809 --> 00:58:26.150
it immediately. Oh, I made myself sad. I know.

00:58:26.630 --> 00:58:28.989
Next up, we got Astro Boy, which I have never

00:58:28.989 --> 00:58:31.250
seen before, so I'm kind of interested in this.

00:58:31.409 --> 00:58:34.070
One of you watch like the old school like anime.

00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:36.059
Oh, yeah, we'll check some out. You know, I want

00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:37.960
to see some of it, like the inspiration behind

00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:43.500
a weird full 3D movie. Like why? Why Nick Cage

00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:46.820
is the dad creator? We will find out. This is

00:58:46.820 --> 00:58:48.920
my friend Tiffany's like favorite Nick Cage movie.

00:58:49.099 --> 00:58:50.760
So I'm excited. She's talked this up to me, so

00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:54.440
I'm excited to see it. It'll be great. So, yeah,

00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:56.659
thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh, Josie, Matt,

00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.019
Adam, Bill, Stuart and Willow. And to our cage

00:58:59.019 --> 00:59:02.599
dancers, John. Hi. And Freeman, Nathan and Cameron.

00:59:02.699 --> 00:59:05.389
I paid to be here. That's true. You have. You've

00:59:05.389 --> 00:59:08.030
earned it. You've earned it by paying us. And

00:59:08.030 --> 00:59:10.590
a special thanks to our for our intro music to

00:59:10.590 --> 00:59:12.809
Bill Panks. And thank you all for listening.

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And we'll be back in two weeks for more antics.
