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Oh, God. Oh, my God. So, yeah, gray hairs grow

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fast. Oh, yeah, they're super slick. That's because

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they're... No. They're coarse. They're coarse.

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So they like push through. That makes no sense.

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That doesn't make sense. If they were so coarse,

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why don't they get sandpaper stuck? Why are my

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follicles getting bigger? And they stand up.

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Now I'm creeped out. Why are they always wet?

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Yeah, well, I love a good wet hole. God, fuck.

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Strong start. I'm very tired. I did not sleep

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almost at all last night. Oh, nice. Yeah, right.

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I got my four hours. Has anyone here ever tried

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to like talk to Google, not like Google AI, but

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someone at Google? Oh yeah. Every once in a while

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I've, I've had to deal with that for like SEO

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shit. Yeah. That's what I'm currently dealing

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with today. I ended my day with an email from

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Google. They've been swapping our business hours

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for us every day, even though, you know, to what

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isn't our business hours. And they finally emailed

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me today and they're like, we found the problem.

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There's this, uh, Email that has access to your

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account that keeps changing them. You should

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contact them and tell them to stop. To which

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I replied, you mean me? Because they sent me

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back my email responding to that email address.

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Nice. Wow. Real good attention to detail. So

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why'd you keep changing it? Yeah, stop fucking

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with the dates and times, Sean. The best part,

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though, was my boss was on this email thread

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and just replied to me with woof. OK, so they're

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dipshits. I get it. I deal with tech support

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with all sorts of companies all day, all week

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long. It's terrible. Every once in a while you

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get like an actually good one. And I'm always

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surprised by it. give them extra thanks at the

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end usually i just get furious oh yeah i know

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i always start with the yelling yeah and i let

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them like work out like whether they want to

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be a calming agent or just one of those people

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that like juices me up even more and gets me

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hotter and then i elevate to their supervisor

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well how do you guys feel about jesus god damn

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it i had a segue and everything roll it back

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go ahead you know who didn't have this problem

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jesus That's true. I'm sorry. The boy. Yeah.

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The boy. Joshua. He does get called Joshua once.

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He does. That's true. One time. Which is cool

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people for Jesus, I guess. Yep. Praise Joshua.

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That's like how Alfredo seems like a cool name,

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but it's just Alfred. Or Arturo. It's like, it's

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Arthur. Eduardo. These are just dork names. Yeah,

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these are just good old -fashioned real people

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names with O's at the end. Kinda. Alright, Peter

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O. Nico. Yeah, Nico. Nico! Oh my god. That actually

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works. Nico is what it is. Nico wafers. Nico

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wafers are my favorite, man. I love just jamming

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some. anus flavored nico wafers uh also welcome

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back to cage magical and roundabout way me to

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nicholas cage i'm your host sean here with my

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co -host nick and our producer peter hello and

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our special guest josie hi josie hi yeah long

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time listener long time our first patreon supporter

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no never called or wait you weren't our first

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josh was never mind doesn't matter you were an

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early patreon supporter i feel like josie was

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an early hostage to this endeavor she didn't

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have much choice in this one she got roped along

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i mean i like to watch movies and if nick will

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sit down and watch a movie with me i guess Yeah,

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it's kind of a win -win in that way, except you've

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had to watch a lot of bad movies. And them multiple

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times. How do you feel about Nicolas Cage? Yeah.

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I like most of the stuff we watch. There's some

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that I don't want to watch again. Yeah, but usually

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once is enough. Yeah. In those situations, it's

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like, oh, okay, I watched it. That's pretty good.

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Yep. There are still some that I would watch,

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you know, multiple times. There was a part of

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me that was like, how do I watch this again?

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I kind of wanted to. not sure why this movie

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oh this movie yeah that is an incorrect that

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is an incorrect assumption uh yeah we'll talk

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about that because i actually also kind of wanted

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to watch it again i would watch it again but

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yeah this is one of those movies i'd only watch

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the highlights of mostly i want to see uh jesus

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and satan throw hands again oh yeah yeah okay

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spoilers yeah so we we watched the brand new

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uh carpenter's son went to a movie theater had

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the whole experience there were other people

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there were people there were people in your theater

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too right sean yeah no there were and it was

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weird yeah for a movie that i saw no advertising

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for not even on like reddit or anything like

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that uh there were maybe two posts that i ever

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saw about it outside of our own conversations

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We knew at least one of the groups of people

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as we were leaving, they were like, are you guys

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religious or Nick Cage people? Oh, yeah. Like,

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yeah, no, we're religious about Nicolas Cage.

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That's true. Throughout this whole film, I was

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trying to like stifle mad cackling at just how

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hilariously bad parts of this were. And I stopped

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myself because religious people are weird about

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Jesus. And I didn't want to get punched. Go figure.

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oh i don't know from what i hear most of the

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religious people who see this film end up just

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walking out because of the the blasphemes but

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one dude was crying at the end of this film oh

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that's so cool what i had questions why i mean

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i don't see why is it because is it because the

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devil lost or they were confused because it was

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so annoyingly vague but not at the same time

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Did they finally bust? I just figured like if

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this guy's crying, if this guy's crying at a

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Jesus movie, he probably doesn't want to be asked

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by the guy in a dress and heels what his deal

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is. that's probably fair i think the question

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goes both ways at this point and you just have

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to accept that it's okay but also most people

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strangers don't like to be asked what's your

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deal yeah hey dude that's not really a thing

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that you should ask people unless they work at

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a casino josey were you raised religious at all

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um i went to catholic school for kindergarten

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and first grade okay and then my brother graduated

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eighth grade from the school and i had no one

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to walk home with so i got put in public school

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so that i could go home with friends okay i had

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a similar experience because i went to catholic

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school for kindergarten first grade and then

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i got held back in the first grade and then my

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parents took me out of that school that's because

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they knew you were bad to the core were you held

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back or held down Show us on the doll where the

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priest touched you, Sean. I was too mouthy for

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that. That's their favorite kind of kid. The

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mouthy ones. No, because I would talk. They can't

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have kids who talk. No, I just first day of first

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grade, I told my teacher, Miss Cooch's, I hate

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you and don't have to do what you say. And then

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proceeded to do that for an entire school year.

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Oh, lovely. I had a sister, Amanda. Sister. Sister

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Amanda was our... That's like the lady version

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of name with an O. This is name with an A. So

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it's just Amanda? Yeah. See how they added an

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A on the end? Here's the extra sound, the ah.

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I don't know. I think I'm pretty on record for

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having a speckled past with Catholic raising.

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I think I talked about like... Getting held back

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in like my first communion school, all my Sunday

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school classes and stuff. Too many questions.

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Well, I was drawing pictures. I was drawing pictures

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of kids misbehaving. And that's right. The nun

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was just like, we're not so sure about this one.

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Let's hold him back. You were OK. You were held

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back in Sunday school. I was just asked to not

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be returned. Yeah, they just they told my parents,

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little Sean can't come back. Yeah, well, that's

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what churches are for dumping children. Exactly.

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Come on. Like, obviously, your parents had a

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plan. So I did K through eight in Catholic school

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and, you know, was then expected in high school

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years to continue going to church, which basically

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meant me going to the super early mass before

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I went to work in a restaurant and standing outside

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of it, eating McDonald's and listening to the

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priest's voice so I could hear at least a bit

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of what they talked about so I could tell my

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dad that I went to church. um so that's my relationship

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with it um but sticks one of the things that

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i always was interested though was about like

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this middle section of jesus's life where it's

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like what happened when he was like a little

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shit teen yeah you know yeah it's sad that they

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don't really ever try to address it like uh on

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the record or anything on the record all these

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damn apocryphal records so instead you get a

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nicholas cage movie Have you read the Christopher

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Moore book, Lamb? Yes. The Gospel According to

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Biff, Jesus's Best Friend. I forgot about that

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book. I really liked it. I love Christopher Moore,

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and I've read all of his books, but that's a

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good one. If you listen to it, it's read by Fisher

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Stevens. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. He's my favorite

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Indian. What? It's a good one. He plays and he

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played it. I mean, he's a notably not Indian

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guy who played an Indian guy in short circuit

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and short circuit, too, I assume. What kind of

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Indian like Ben Kingsley Indian or like? Yes.

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Yes. I mean, they give him brown face for that,

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for sure. Hell yeah. Yeah. Short circuit, huh?

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I'm going to watch that in a minute. Same. I

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think it's time to go home and commit a crime.

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uh speaking of brownface i was just reminded

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that the prince of persia movie exists and no

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one in that is uh nope persian that yeah well

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i mean kind of similar vibes for this movie it's

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like they did not get anybody middle eastern

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at all case in point nick cage i do appreciate

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that the uh the white male bearded character

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in this wasn't jesus they actually got someone

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with melanin to play jesus that's true yeah that's

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his name right yeah yeah It's Jupe, not Jupe?

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Yeah, it's Jupe. Hoopa? Yeah, so Nick Cage is

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the carpenter. Noah Jupe is... the boy fka twigs

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is the mother i had to say that i did too it's

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just fka i did one of those things it was like

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how do you pronounce this and it was a video

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and it was like fka twigs and i was like yeah

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you probably could have cracked that code you

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immediately tried like just sounding it out though

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right oh yeah twigs this can't be it i'm going

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to google oh why are the hours wrong on her name

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ah curses Goddamn Google. FKA twigs. Yeah. Yeah.

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That was something. Yeah. Peter hit it on the

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head. This movie is about like, yeah, that the,

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the middle, the middle of Jesus's life when he

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was a shitty teen and hit it on the head. Is

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that an, is that a carpenter pun? There was a

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lot of, you're not my dad energy. You're not

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my daddy. There was a lot of that. Yeah. Which

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is also true. Yeah. I mean, depending on what

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you believe. I mean, it's true in every sense.

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Like, I don't think he is Nicolas Cage's child.

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Well, that's true. And the carpenter was all

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mad because, you know, God gave him a sign one

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time and he's been like riding that high ever

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since. Yeah, it bugged me. OK, I don't know much

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about the Bible, but I thought Joseph and Mary

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were like a couple. And then she just happened

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to have. divine baby but they were not at all

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a couple in this movie and he did not love her

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she did yeah it was weird i think i think there's

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usually like very big age gap partnership in

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the bible and it was like arranged marriage type

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of shit yeah she was definitely there to like

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just bear bear children and do things for him

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that seemed to be the vibe i will say my initial

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thought about the my initial like thought when

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this movie started when you just see mary like

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shitting out a baby like just squat down shitting

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out the kid um was just like wow they actually

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are not hiding the fact that that is supposed

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to be a child having a baby because she looks

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13 with just a bunch of lip filler Which I think

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is what Mary was supposed to be in the story,

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like 13 or 14 or something like this. Yeah. I

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mean, is God a perv? Yes. I mean. Hard to argue

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with that. The other two thoughts I had during

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this movie was, one, the way they do Jesus being

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Jesus is he has like superpowers. He has mutant

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powers. He has like the Superman. That's called

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just Christianity. Yeah. That's how they do it

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across the board. He can just hear and sense

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everything. And it's just like, it's the very

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lazy Superman overstimulated thing. The two thoughts

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I had going into this or watching this film was

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still better than 90 % of the Fox X -Men movies.

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Yeah. And these new Star Wars movies do fucking

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suck. Because Jesus uses the force to kill a

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child. yeah we'll get there yeah i like the long

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distance he sniped that kid right out did yeah

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like fuck you just dropped his ass okay josey

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laser give us give us the the plot rundown of

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this this lovely movie obviously we now know

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that jesus was butt born yeah shit out shit out

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i know how babies work i'm gonna have to put

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a content warning on this in a different way

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I don't really know. It's just Bible -y stuff,

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right? Well, they're like shunned from everywhere

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they go. So they're like always on the run. Well,

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also, they're worried about the king trying to

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find them because they don't want to have him

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be thrown on the baby burn pile. That was rough.

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Intense. That was a cool way to start this movie.

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That's pretty hardcore, right? All right, guys,

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let me security like baggage check. Oh, baby

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on the pile. Does it have a penis? Throw it in

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the fire. That was my problem with that part.

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As a king, don't you want more subjects? Why

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are you throwing all of the babies away? So,

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OK, so the Bible stuff that you're missing out

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on is that the king, Herod, learns that there's

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a baby to be born that will be the new king of

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kings. So as current king, he's like, fuck that

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shit. Every baby born right around this time,

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that's a boy. Kill him. see i've never read any

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oh look at me diving deep into my memories this

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is good which also just god being a bit of a

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hypocrite here seen as he's the whole like you're

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not allowed to worship anyone but me because

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i'm sensitive about that shit but you know don't

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don't throw my son on the baby on the baby uh

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pyre all of my well the son is also him that's

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right all of my three things bible knowledge

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is from uh androloid weber musicals so that's

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a good way to consume it problem joseph and the

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amazing technicolor dreamcoat and jesus christ

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superstar there you go you got everything you

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need yeah and i'm bound by law to continue saying

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that Dreamcoat is still the best musical in the

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world and always will be. I've done it twice.

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It's so awful. Never seen it. God, it's so awful.

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Why are you required to say that again? I lost

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a bet in college. But it was like a game of rock,

00:17:00.149 --> 00:17:02.629
paper, scissors. It was very low stakes. Yeah.

00:17:02.750 --> 00:17:04.589
But I'm going to hold to it because I'm a man

00:17:04.589 --> 00:17:07.890
of integrity. I appreciate that. Oh, are you?

00:17:08.390 --> 00:17:10.130
That's what I said. Those are the words that

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I recorded. All right. That's why you and Jesus

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are so similar. Yeah. That and our Technicolor

00:17:15.549 --> 00:17:19.829
Dreamcoats. Okay, so they escape the burn pile

00:17:19.829 --> 00:17:23.490
by having him in a saddlebag? Yeah, I think so.

00:17:23.730 --> 00:17:25.529
I thought he was going to be in that roll in

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the back and they were just going to lay him.

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Like they burritoed him. It's called swaddling.

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Yeah, so they run away. And they just keep finding

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new villages to stay in. And he, Joseph, well,

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the carpenter gets a job and then they get found

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out and then they run again. They finally find

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a village when he's like, what is he? Probably

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15. I like that when they find the housing, a

00:18:00.579 --> 00:18:02.940
guy is just like. It's down that way and then

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on the left and they just like wander around

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in the cave. Randomly find a house that's unoccupied.

00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:12.099
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. It's plague

00:18:12.099 --> 00:18:15.980
times, right? Or leprosy times. Yeah, the way

00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:17.740
they check if like demons have come into the

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house is they put sand on the doorway and if

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there's chicken feet in it, you know that a demon's

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been in there. So they can only move to towns

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without chickens. Yeah. Yeah. That chicken had

00:18:31.069 --> 00:18:36.349
very just even steps too. Like it was two chicken

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feet just right next to each other. And then

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like a couple of inches later, two more chicken

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feet. Like you just. Oh, just hopping. Maybe

00:18:41.190 --> 00:18:43.089
it hops. It's a hopping chicken. Just doing a

00:18:43.089 --> 00:18:46.869
cock hop. Like a. The cock hop. What roosters

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are known for there. You going to the cock hop

00:18:48.789 --> 00:18:52.009
later? Yep. I was thinking maybe like a crow.

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Cock a hop -a -loo. That doesn't work. That's

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terrible. I liked it. So because. Joseph can't

00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:06.259
relate to his not son. Joseph like locks Jesus

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like in a shed every night. Yeah. This is so

00:19:10.019 --> 00:19:14.740
dumb. It's so weird. Because like Jesus can just

00:19:14.740 --> 00:19:16.380
reach through the slats and pull out the bit

00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:18.660
of wood that locks him in the shed. I loved that.

00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.900
I loved it. It's just like a bunch of like kind

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of open, not even like processed lumber or anything.

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It's just like. Here's a bunch of raw wood kind

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of lashed together in the resemblance of like

00:19:33.259 --> 00:19:36.480
a prison cell. Yeah. And you can just reach out

00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.859
and move your kind of like. I will say as a parent,

00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:42.740
there's definitely a window of time. And Jesus

00:19:42.740 --> 00:19:44.859
at 15 is beyond that. But where you can kind

00:19:44.859 --> 00:19:46.500
of just like close a door and a kid is like,

00:19:46.579 --> 00:19:52.039
guess that's that. I mean, you get a laundry

00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.019
hamper and a heavy enough book and you're fine

00:19:54.019 --> 00:19:56.920
for at least 20 minutes. Yeah, 15 -year -olds

00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:01.660
can't figure out a laundry hamper. Nah. But yeah,

00:20:01.700 --> 00:20:05.519
so he breaks out a lot. Also, he makes a new

00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:11.240
friend in the town who just happens to be Satan.

00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:17.890
Satan? Yeah. Is it not a skewered meat? uh well

00:20:17.890 --> 00:20:26.130
there's satay and there's also satan satan satay

00:20:26.130 --> 00:20:30.970
yeah yeah a fake meat satay i will say uh i will

00:20:30.970 --> 00:20:35.130
say uh the fake meat uh satan um that fucking

00:20:35.130 --> 00:20:37.680
you know That's end of days for me. That just

00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.380
runs right through. Doesn't it go right through

00:20:39.380 --> 00:20:43.980
everybody? It's like huge amounts of just consuming

00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:47.980
gluten. It's only the gluten. It's all farts

00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:50.619
for me. Like I eat it and I'm just like loud

00:20:50.619 --> 00:20:54.079
ass clappers all over the place. Now that clears

00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:58.700
me out. Oh yeah. So we all agree, satan is bad.

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Yeah, it's not good. This is not a pro satan

00:21:03.180 --> 00:21:07.720
podcast. I guess we're with Jesus on this one.

00:21:08.140 --> 00:21:13.700
Yeah, he makes friends with this little kid and

00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:19.680
like the like she she lives with the. The lepers

00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:21.500
and everything with the sick, she doesn't have

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a family and she's got like weird cutting scars

00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:27.529
like she was the first like. I don't know, emo

00:21:27.529 --> 00:21:30.930
kid, like first tortured soul. Yeah. But it's

00:21:30.930 --> 00:21:33.549
like on her face and like, oh, but they play

00:21:33.549 --> 00:21:35.809
this stupid game where it's like, see how close

00:21:35.809 --> 00:21:38.009
you can get to touching the leper without touching

00:21:38.009 --> 00:21:42.890
him. And then she's like, how fun is this? Yeah.

00:21:42.890 --> 00:21:45.869
Aren't we having such a good time over this basically

00:21:45.869 --> 00:21:48.630
dying person? They hadn't invented Nintendo yet.

00:21:49.150 --> 00:21:52.529
That's true. Pac -Man hadn't shown up on the

00:21:52.529 --> 00:21:56.309
scene yet. This is what we had to do. Yeah. I

00:21:56.309 --> 00:21:58.250
mean, you know, Stand By Me is about going and

00:21:58.250 --> 00:22:00.250
finding a dead body. You know, it's like times

00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:03.730
haven't changed that much. Yeah. The 80s aren't

00:22:03.730 --> 00:22:06.730
that far away. Then she then she like pushes

00:22:06.730 --> 00:22:09.349
Jesus onto the dead body and or onto the leper

00:22:09.349 --> 00:22:15.049
and he gets cured. Yeah. And then but it's a

00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:16.829
slow burn because he was still kind of ugly.

00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.680
Well, he was only, like, cured on that one spot

00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:24.940
where he, like, fell on him. Yeah. Touch me more.

00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.759
Yeah, that's so creepy, too. Like, hey, man,

00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:30.039
you cured my ear. I need you to touch me all

00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.000
over. Just give me the full. Yeah. The leper

00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.339
show up to his shed and, like, grab him. That

00:22:35.339 --> 00:22:37.779
was, like, the one creepy part was when he goes

00:22:37.779 --> 00:22:39.460
back into his shed and, like, the hand comes

00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:42.279
out of the shadow. Yeah. Yeah, and he brings

00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.740
the whole leper colony with him. yeah do you

00:22:45.740 --> 00:22:49.559
think this is uh the story that inspired all

00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:51.420
the catholic priests like they're just out there

00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:55.400
trying to cure the little kids and they're like

00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.319
them of their innocence yeah they're like we

00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.559
have to touch you we'll let us touch the pain

00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.200
away oh no gross but yeah you're right that was

00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:09.420
like the the almost horroriest moment in this

00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:11.460
there's a couple other ones where it's like jesus

00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:13.480
is visions of the future and he sees himself

00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:17.140
crucified and yeah him in the the tomb in the

00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:19.680
shroud which like you know it's a jump scare

00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:22.380
oh he's breathing but like that visual was kind

00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:24.039
of cool yeah there were some really cool visuals

00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.720
the visuals of like him on the cross i thought

00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.299
was well shot like this one thing about this

00:23:29.299 --> 00:23:33.380
film is like they actually had probably a decent

00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:35.480
dp like i didn't check to see who it was like

00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.220
i mean probably fucking nobody no i mean visually

00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:40.460
correct they did look very good work i mean like

00:23:40.460 --> 00:23:42.819
i liked a lot of uh the visuals on this film

00:23:42.819 --> 00:23:47.920
for a very colorless palette of desolate landscape

00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:53.079
i guess yeah yeah pretty good house paint hadn't

00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.779
really made its way no i get that i get that

00:23:55.779 --> 00:24:00.940
but except for her uh shawl that was so blue

00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.339
yeah well that's also a mary thing mary's iconography

00:24:04.339 --> 00:24:08.519
is all blue that i know but yeah it's like where'd

00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.579
she get those fucking dyes how did you get that

00:24:10.579 --> 00:24:13.940
dye maybe jesus blessed it's god blessed yeah

00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:18.299
one of the visuals that i did not enjoy was um

00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:22.319
later he has a vision of hell and it's just this

00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.059
like oh it looks like a weird like writhing sort

00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:27.559
of arm it's a butthole but everything it's it's

00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.680
they look like they look like bodies kind of

00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.319
yeah but they're like weird butt bags like they're

00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:35.220
they're not like actually human beings they're

00:24:35.220 --> 00:24:38.059
sort of like just amorphous blobs and suffering

00:24:38.059 --> 00:24:41.759
if you had a bunch of like writhing yeah maggots

00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.650
on your butt like a if the sarlacc pit was covered

00:24:45.650 --> 00:24:48.369
in maggots yeah and that's kind of what it looked

00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:51.150
like it was not done well enough for me to like

00:24:51.150 --> 00:24:53.190
that one they should have gotten a bunch of people

00:24:53.190 --> 00:24:54.990
and put them in sacks and painted them white

00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:56.529
and then had them right that would be pretty

00:24:56.529 --> 00:25:00.569
crazy if you got like 70 dancers in sex oh yeah

00:25:00.569 --> 00:25:03.690
and just really let them like go at it or well

00:25:03.690 --> 00:25:05.730
they'd be fucking in those sacks too by the way

00:25:05.730 --> 00:25:11.240
like the labyrinth when the hands Catch her on

00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.460
her way down and they talk. Those guys, that

00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:16.900
would have been interesting. That's effective.

00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:21.299
The weird CG butt bags did not do it. Oh, it

00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:23.400
would be so cool if they got those little flame

00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:29.059
Muppets from... And that was hell. Fire eaters.

00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:32.119
Thank you. That would be good. That's a good

00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.700
hell. That is hell. The main conflict in this

00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:42.160
film is between Joseph and it's just you know

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.099
joseph or the carpenters you know mean to his

00:25:45.099 --> 00:25:50.259
son and then his son rebels and then uses his

00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:53.160
powers then the town comes after them and well

00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.440
he rebels because satan well and also like whispers

00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:01.240
in his ear yeah yeah true so it's just i mean

00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.880
it ultimately comes down to jesus is a teenage

00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.019
boy he's horny he he's you know peeping on his

00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:10.839
mute neighbor um oh yeah lilith and then yeah

00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:16.660
and then yeah and then you know uh you know uh

00:26:16.660 --> 00:26:19.440
satan comes and like whispers stuff in his ear

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.839
and he's like you know you know come find me

00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.640
with all the sick people you know they fuck right

00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.140
i did like that the carpenter is tasked with

00:26:29.140 --> 00:26:33.279
making an idol and that like peeves jesus off

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.059
because that's kind of god's whole thing you

00:26:35.059 --> 00:26:37.480
know Oh, you know, he didn't want to do it either

00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.119
because he's like a good holy, holy different

00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:45.019
religion. Yeah. OK, here's what I fucking hate

00:26:45.019 --> 00:26:47.779
in this or any movie where we're just supposed

00:26:47.779 --> 00:26:50.779
to feign disbelief that because everyone speaks

00:26:50.779 --> 00:26:53.920
English because it's an it's a movie filmed in

00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.980
English. There's always the scene where background

00:26:56.980 --> 00:27:01.339
people are speaking a different language. That

00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:04.150
was kind of weird. Yeah, I think they should

00:27:04.150 --> 00:27:06.910
have gone the full like Mel Gibson Passion of

00:27:06.910 --> 00:27:09.009
the Christ where everyone had to learn Aramaic

00:27:09.009 --> 00:27:12.329
or some shit. Yeah. Give me subtitles. I also

00:27:12.329 --> 00:27:17.210
just like subtitles. It might have kind of cleaned

00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:21.150
up Cage's performance. If he was speaking a different

00:27:21.150 --> 00:27:22.609
language, because then we wouldn't be looking

00:27:22.609 --> 00:27:25.549
at his face when he's talking. That's true. It

00:27:25.549 --> 00:27:29.390
was a little blocky. Yeah. I think FKA Twigs

00:27:29.390 --> 00:27:32.869
had probably the best line delivery of the three.

00:27:33.269 --> 00:27:35.690
Like she actually kind of got into more of a.

00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:38.490
When she finally had a rhythm. Room to speak.

00:27:38.630 --> 00:27:40.849
Yeah. Once she was allowed to speak. Because

00:27:40.849 --> 00:27:44.430
most of it is just her like in blue. To Josie's

00:27:44.430 --> 00:27:47.680
point, just like standing and looking. pouty

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.380
face pouty faced yeah yeah she is shockingly

00:27:51.380 --> 00:27:55.599
older than i thought she was i mean she's she's

00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.259
what like she's an adult 38 or something yeah

00:27:59.259 --> 00:28:02.700
yeah i assumed she was younger oh yeah she has

00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:05.619
a very young face yeah no yeah she's been on

00:28:05.619 --> 00:28:08.319
the scene for a while just not as much she was

00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.380
born in 88 oh okay so she's only like four years

00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:13.900
younger than us she made better choices than

00:28:13.900 --> 00:28:17.140
i did yeah she was in the crow remake so maybe

00:28:17.140 --> 00:28:22.420
she didn't oh yeah i didn't see that but it made

00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:26.380
me angry to look at the images of it oh yeah

00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:28.920
yeah everything i read about that movie is that

00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.720
it was not worth watching so well the original

00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.720
is one of my favorite movies so and the best

00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:42.299
soundtrack of ever yeah that's a good uh no spawn

00:28:42.299 --> 00:28:45.039
the motion picture did you did you look at that

00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.839
soundtrack of course i did no this okay one second

00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:50.859
uh talk amongst yourselves for a second i need

00:28:50.859 --> 00:28:54.319
to i'm gonna share this once i find it let's

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.240
see i'm gonna look through my notes idolatry

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.519
baby burn pile weird way of praying with claw

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.619
hands oh yeah that was really weird that that

00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:03.279
pose that they would do when they were praying

00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.619
oh yeah it looks so fucking intense gripping

00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:10.940
the air grabbing god by the fucking nuts It's

00:29:10.940 --> 00:29:12.660
the best way to get his attention. Yeah, true.

00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.220
Yeah. So we had, you know, pretty much all of

00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:19.119
it. You know, I didn't fall asleep through this

00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.440
movie at all. See, I feel like that's a testament

00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.539
to you left. I had a coughing fit and then I

00:29:24.539 --> 00:29:26.880
went and got a cider. I went and got a beer.

00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.579
Yeah. I stayed up through the whole thing. I

00:29:30.579 --> 00:29:33.579
almost fell asleep. I almost fell asleep during

00:29:33.579 --> 00:29:36.680
this movie. I fall asleep during almost every

00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.369
movie. Like early on in this film, like in the

00:29:39.369 --> 00:29:43.069
first 20 minutes, I was nodding off. The baby

00:29:43.069 --> 00:29:46.150
burn pile didn't get you going. Everything after

00:29:46.150 --> 00:29:48.750
that was just like, that's true. Fuck it. They

00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:50.289
started, they started, they came in hard. They

00:29:50.289 --> 00:29:52.490
came, they came in hard. Then it was all downhill

00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:55.630
until like, Jesus is like pulling snakes out

00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:58.579
of people's throats. Yeah. That was pretty cool,

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.839
too. Those snakes had weird heads. They really

00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.079
did. Are those real? I think that is a type of

00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.319
actual snake. Oh, okay. Because I was like, I've

00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.059
never seen anything like that before. It's a

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:11.940
Saharan horned viper. Oh, okay. And it actually

00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:14.779
does look just like that. Yeah. Thick body and

00:30:14.779 --> 00:30:19.119
all. Thick with two Cs. It's apparently, like,

00:30:19.180 --> 00:30:22.839
science name is Sarastes sarastes. Awesome. I

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.650
love a good double name. Yeah. That was the most

00:30:25.650 --> 00:30:28.450
egregious CG in the film and it wasn't terrible.

00:30:28.869 --> 00:30:33.450
The butt bags were worse than that. They're not

00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:35.809
in focus enough where I find that it was like

00:30:35.809 --> 00:30:40.250
that distracting. Fair enough. That scene with

00:30:40.250 --> 00:30:45.950
all of the people in chains and on the cross

00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:49.730
being crucified and stuff was crazy too. Like,

00:30:49.730 --> 00:30:54.579
why? Why were they there? Yeah. All of them.

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:57.160
Is that. That's pretty much it. Who decides that

00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.220
though? Like they didn't really. Who decides

00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:03.079
it now? The Pharisees. Yeah. Yeah. But they're

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.720
like out in the middle of nowhere. It was sort

00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.160
of the middle of nowhere. It was weird that they

00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.000
had like a whole, you know. Plus there was that.

00:31:10.099 --> 00:31:12.240
Gibbet. Sort of thing. Other religion with the.

00:31:12.980 --> 00:31:16.259
Right. With the weird like beard god. Yeah. What

00:31:16.259 --> 00:31:20.000
was. Whose religion were they sinning? That's

00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.619
a. That's actually a pretty good fucking point.

00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:26.539
Yeah. I do like how Jesus's ultimate way of rebelling

00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:29.079
against his father is like, I'm going to go.

00:31:29.099 --> 00:31:31.140
I'm going to go commit some miracles. You can't

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:36.700
stop me. Yeah. What a rebel. But that does bring

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:39.480
us to when he just fucking kills that kid who's

00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:40.799
going to. Well, I was going to say before that.

00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:45.319
Yeah. The carpenter and the mother are like going

00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.019
to skip town. And then the carpenter goes to

00:31:48.019 --> 00:31:50.319
find their son. And then Mary just gets cold

00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:55.599
cocked. oh yeah i forgot about that and then

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.420
yeah then we have uh yeah uh one of the one of

00:31:59.420 --> 00:32:02.200
the local boys uh local children that uh jesus

00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.359
is like a tutor of or like meets in the class

00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:10.359
with or something yeah um spies spies the boy

00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.640
like in the forest and yells you know he's here

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.450
and then jesus snipes him with you know his force

00:32:17.450 --> 00:32:22.910
powers his mind bullets his mind bullets that's

00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:28.950
telekinesis kyle and then uh satan and jesus

00:32:28.950 --> 00:32:32.589
fucking uh fucking throw hands they have a good

00:32:32.589 --> 00:32:35.869
tussle yeah i like when i fight i like when it

00:32:35.869 --> 00:32:40.500
cuts into like uh joseph's view right and you

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:44.180
can see like weird creepy like old lady yeah

00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:46.819
yeah i couldn't tell i mean i think satan is

00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:50.000
very like gender ambiguous for everybody right

00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.099
and yeah i couldn't tell if that was supposed

00:32:52.099 --> 00:32:54.740
to be like an older lady or an older dude even

00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:57.740
the little girl is kind of ambiguous which fingernails

00:32:57.740 --> 00:33:01.000
for sure it's very yeah ambiguous uh in terms

00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.119
of gender because you know If there was one thing

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.220
the Christians are scared of, it's us non -binaries.

00:33:08.220 --> 00:33:10.119
That's probably why everyone's up in arms. It's

00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.019
like, this isn't a bad portrayal of Jesus, I

00:33:12.019 --> 00:33:16.079
don't think. It's just too scary. One of the

00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:17.900
things that I thought was kind of a cool effect,

00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:22.579
speaking of all the cutting scars on Satan, was

00:33:22.579 --> 00:33:25.900
as it progressed, those started to open up. Oh,

00:33:25.900 --> 00:33:28.680
yeah. As we got to the climax of the entire film,

00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.599
they were like gaped wounds. Yeah, they were

00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.619
pretty gross. Yeah. bloody hands and faces and

00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:40.700
stuff yeah when when jesus and uh and satan were

00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:42.640
uh were throwing down in the theaters when i

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.720
finally kind of like lost lost it and started

00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.200
audibly laughing at the film i laughed a couple

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.680
i i at least laughed once i don't remember what

00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.420
it was about same yeah I was trying to remember

00:33:55.420 --> 00:33:57.619
and it just completely. It was something that

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:01.240
was totally heavy handed. It was when the carpenter

00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.920
died and yeah, like a little halo appears around

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:11.860
his head. I really wanted him to like be one

00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:16.039
of the weasels that laughs themselves to death.

00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.179
And then he would have like. his ghost just floated

00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:22.239
up that would have been that's what it was incredible

00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.440
yeah because that's what i thought of roger rabbit

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.980
is amazing yeah i need to re -watch that i bet

00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:30.719
the dogs would go crazy if we watched it though

00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.639
because the weasels probably let their control

00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.039
of that lapse like it went back to the original

00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:41.559
went back to the uh creator interesting who apparently

00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:43.860
now wants to make a live action Jessica Rabbit

00:34:43.860 --> 00:34:46.760
movie. So I feel like that guy doesn't know what

00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.679
to do with that property. I'm on board for this.

00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.659
Everything about this seems correct to me. She

00:34:52.659 --> 00:34:58.000
will fall over and break an ankle. So my main

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.980
question at the end of all of this was, ultimately,

00:35:02.019 --> 00:35:05.179
who is this movie for? Because I don't know.

00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.059
Because the way it was originally kind of...

00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.800
sold from what i understood was this is supposed

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.340
to be like a horror horror movie i mean that's

00:35:14.340 --> 00:35:16.840
certainly how they presented it in trailers yeah

00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.480
well and there are certainly elements near the

00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.260
end that i think the nature of the story itself

00:35:23.260 --> 00:35:25.980
kind of just lends itself to that sort of like

00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:30.239
supernatural scare um i'm not no i'm not saying

00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.079
this movie was scary at all it's not no but um

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.340
it felt like like near the end they had a little

00:35:36.340 --> 00:35:40.719
bit of that sort of uh supernatural tension and

00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.219
i liked that i liked it when it when it was doing

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.619
that i wish the movie had more of that throughout

00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:48.820
it uh it seemed to really kind of just come up

00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:50.699
in the end like the first two -thirds of the

00:35:50.699 --> 00:35:56.039
movie are joseph being a dick and like praying

00:35:56.039 --> 00:36:00.199
a lot and jesus being a kid like touching lepers

00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:07.119
this almost seems like the ip ran uh what's the

00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.500
copyright or whatever that is public domain the

00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:15.500
public domain ran out on this so because there's

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:19.139
steamboat willie there is a horror movie about

00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:24.039
steamboat blood and honey so maybe it's time

00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.000
for the bible so maybe we're gonna get like lots

00:36:27.809 --> 00:36:32.389
here's here's our new one jesus the pope forgot

00:36:32.389 --> 00:36:35.309
to mail out a check at the end of the year it's

00:36:35.309 --> 00:36:40.909
like oh no jesus is public domain we lost all

00:36:40.909 --> 00:36:43.969
those bible stories there's gonna be so many

00:36:43.969 --> 00:36:47.730
different like weird teen christ stuff yeah this

00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:51.110
is like skateboarding jesus i love fucking radical

00:36:51.110 --> 00:36:53.769
you're gonna get like jesus peeing on things

00:36:53.769 --> 00:36:55.889
they're gonna replace calvin yeah on the back

00:36:55.889 --> 00:37:02.829
of trucks some god nuts yeah i don't know i've

00:37:02.829 --> 00:37:04.789
said what i have to say about this film it it's

00:37:04.789 --> 00:37:11.030
fine i did not enjoy it so i had never like heard

00:37:11.030 --> 00:37:14.050
anything like i i knew these things this story

00:37:14.050 --> 00:37:16.889
existed but i didn't know anything about it uh

00:37:16.889 --> 00:37:21.349
sean have you ever read any of the uh infancy

00:37:21.349 --> 00:37:26.250
gospel of thomas no no peter have you read or

00:37:26.250 --> 00:37:30.730
heard any of it very little so i wanted to know

00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:33.389
about it and i was like really trying to think

00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:36.969
like what am i gonna like talk about with this

00:37:36.969 --> 00:37:40.869
one um first i was like i'll just troll the christian

00:37:40.869 --> 00:37:42.349
subreddits and i was like that's not very fun

00:37:42.349 --> 00:37:49.389
so i lowercase l learned about the uh the infancy

00:37:49.389 --> 00:37:51.650
gospel of thomas which is what this movie is

00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:56.190
kind of like based on like that is the the general

00:37:56.190 --> 00:37:59.769
gist of it and so i watched two youtube videos

00:37:59.769 --> 00:38:03.110
and i read the wikipedia page for it and boy

00:38:03.110 --> 00:38:08.070
howdy is it super cool i fucking love the infancy

00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:14.929
gospel of thomas and i'm going to read you the

00:38:14.929 --> 00:38:17.309
notes that i took while i was learning about

00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:21.710
it so It all starts when some dude catches five

00:38:21.710 --> 00:38:24.329
year old Jesus playing in the mud. He was like

00:38:24.329 --> 00:38:28.110
making clay on the Sabbath. That dude reprimands

00:38:28.110 --> 00:38:33.730
Joseph and Joseph's like, you know, hey, Jesus,

00:38:33.789 --> 00:38:35.969
you know, you can't be doing that. And Jesus

00:38:35.969 --> 00:38:38.550
says to the dude who reprimanded Joseph, he's

00:38:38.550 --> 00:38:41.329
like, your fruit will have no root and your shoot

00:38:41.329 --> 00:38:43.869
will be withered like a scorched branch in the

00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:50.809
wind and then fucking kills the dude's kid. jesus

00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:53.969
is like fucking talk to me like that boom now

00:38:53.969 --> 00:38:59.070
your kid's dead end of the line i did enjoy the

00:38:59.070 --> 00:39:02.150
film when uh jesus gets pissed off with the uh

00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:05.710
with the teacher with the priest um And like

00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:07.329
the priest brings him back to Joseph. It's like,

00:39:07.349 --> 00:39:09.210
you know, your child knows things he should not

00:39:09.210 --> 00:39:11.550
know. It's like, what did you say to him? I told

00:39:11.550 --> 00:39:17.750
him when he would die. Jesus went hard. So let

00:39:17.750 --> 00:39:20.070
me burn through this because I got like three

00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:24.710
pages. But I want to talk about my research.

00:39:25.070 --> 00:39:28.619
Yeah. uh that sounds like the spawn soundtrack

00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:32.300
uh so the village boy some other village boy

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:34.920
is running past and he bumps into five -year

00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.019
-old jesus and like doesn't apologize or something

00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:43.699
so jesus turns and he says curse be you because

00:39:43.699 --> 00:39:46.340
of your leader i don't know And kills that boy

00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:49.659
in the street, too. Damn. Yeah. Little five year

00:39:49.659 --> 00:39:51.880
old Jesus was a fucking serial killer. I mean,

00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.400
I will tell you, kids are crazy. Yeah. And you

00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.219
give a kid God powers, God powers. It is God

00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:03.099
who has zero like personal skills. Like also

00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:06.059
Old Testament, God was a dick. You murk people

00:40:06.059 --> 00:40:08.000
all the time. Yeah, it was like this whole thing.

00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.019
So you just put that in a five year old's body,

00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.619
like full comprehension of everything. And like.

00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:17.559
normal god doesn't take shit why would five -year

00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.320
-old god take shit so some villagers see that

00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.679
and they get pissed and they tell joseph that

00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.159
like the family's gotta go and so jesus this

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.980
is like the last time i'm gonna pull a quote

00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:33.800
from the the translations but jesus says to joseph

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.920
since you know wise words you're not ignorant

00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.280
of where they come from they were spoken of a

00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.920
five -year -old and they won't be raised and

00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.639
they will receive their punishment. So he's basically

00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:48.420
like, you're going to let these motherfuckers

00:40:48.420 --> 00:40:51.280
talk to a kid like that. I'm going to punish

00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.280
them now. And to punish all the villagers for

00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.880
calling him out on shit that they all saw murder.

00:40:57.059 --> 00:40:59.659
He makes them all go blind. He's like, yeah,

00:40:59.659 --> 00:41:00.900
I'm not going to kill you, but I'll make this

00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:04.039
whole village go blind. Jesus. Yeah. So what

00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.539
I'm getting is the new Testament is just Jesus

00:41:07.539 --> 00:41:09.949
pulling in. My name is Earl. Yeah, pretty much.

00:41:10.630 --> 00:41:15.289
So some dude like Zacharias or something tries

00:41:15.289 --> 00:41:18.909
to tutor Jesus, but then he's like, fuck that.

00:41:19.469 --> 00:41:22.090
Jesus is like, fuck that. You're a worm to me.

00:41:22.130 --> 00:41:26.150
You don't know shit. You can't even possibly

00:41:26.150 --> 00:41:31.449
come to my level of learning. And he gets all

00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:33.750
arrogant and tells the village, I was playing

00:41:33.750 --> 00:41:36.070
with you because I know you're small -minded

00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:39.599
and amazed with small things. oh yeah sorry that

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.059
was my last quote from this and that's when i

00:41:42.059 --> 00:41:44.559
realized that the gop really is the party of

00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:49.519
jesus but everybody's like okay and then fucks

00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:50.860
off they're like totally fine with it they're

00:41:50.860 --> 00:41:53.579
like well yeah okay all right we're small -minded

00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:57.760
people that's what we get so jesus goes with

00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.800
uh zach and but he's like a shitty student because

00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.480
he already knows everything so he And has a dick

00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.539
attitude. Yeah. So he chews Zacharias out and

00:42:09.539 --> 00:42:13.739
then he does it so effectively that Zacharias

00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:17.079
becomes his student. And then he gets so stupid,

00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.579
like he feels so stupid about everything that

00:42:19.579 --> 00:42:22.800
he quits teaching forever. This little five year

00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.820
old just owns you so bad that you're like a grown

00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:29.199
ass, like, you know, educated Jewish man. And

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.280
you're like, I can't, you know, I can never teach

00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:37.820
letters again. And so Jesus was like, well, he's

00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:39.559
like, watch this and makes all the blind people

00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.420
see again. And he brings back all the kids that

00:42:43.420 --> 00:42:46.599
he killed and nobody fucked with Jesus anymore.

00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.239
They're just like, OK, well, clearly we don't

00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.260
fuck with that one. So time goes on and Jesus

00:42:55.260 --> 00:42:57.159
is up like playing on a roof. He's like eight

00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.480
now. Time goes on and he's like playing on a

00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.070
roof with some other kid. it's you know those

00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:05.449
flat roof houses and this kid falls off the roof

00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:09.369
while they're playing and the parents blame jesus

00:43:09.369 --> 00:43:11.849
they're like oh i mean you've got a track record

00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:15.170
uh you totally killed our kid and jesus was like

00:43:15.170 --> 00:43:18.989
it wasn't me And so he goes down to the shower.

00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:25.710
It wasn't me. Exactly. He pulls a shaggy. So

00:43:25.710 --> 00:43:28.050
he goes down to the street where the kid's still

00:43:28.050 --> 00:43:31.250
fucking laying and he brings the kid back to

00:43:31.250 --> 00:43:34.710
life just so the kid will tell his parents that

00:43:34.710 --> 00:43:37.809
Jesus didn't kill him. And then like while the

00:43:37.809 --> 00:43:39.869
parents are like so ecstatic to have their kid

00:43:39.869 --> 00:43:43.369
back, he lets the kid die again. He's just like.

00:43:43.710 --> 00:43:45.409
that's it you can go back to death because it

00:43:45.409 --> 00:43:46.889
was a natural death natural death it was meant

00:43:46.889 --> 00:43:51.190
to be jesus cast speak with dead yeah yeah five

00:43:51.190 --> 00:43:53.269
questions that's the you know what i know my

00:43:53.269 --> 00:43:54.989
dnd five questions is all you get that's all

00:43:54.989 --> 00:43:57.630
you get yeah jesus asked five times did i kill

00:43:57.630 --> 00:44:03.269
you and he's like no no no so uh jesus was kind

00:44:03.269 --> 00:44:06.210
of like right about stuff and he does some like

00:44:06.210 --> 00:44:11.050
crazy miracles and stuff like uh my favorite

00:44:11.050 --> 00:44:14.239
one here is like he He literally stretched the

00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.639
length of some of his dad's lumber so that the

00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.440
wood would be the right length for a project

00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.800
he was making. Like it was too short. So just

00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.940
like in the movie, he made those shelves too

00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:29.420
short because he's a shitty carpenter. So he

00:44:29.420 --> 00:44:33.400
did that, which was pretty cool. And apparently

00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.960
he never learned to read. in these like they

00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.719
three times they try to get teachers for Jesus

00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.420
to teach him how to read like he knows all this

00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:45.099
stuff and like at one point like somebody tries

00:44:45.099 --> 00:44:47.840
to teach him his letters and he goes so hard

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.820
on this guy like he gives like the most like

00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:55.340
divine description of the very first letter of

00:44:55.340 --> 00:44:57.840
the alphabet like enough to like make this guy

00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.300
like shatters his soul he's like how can I know

00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:03.300
anything when this guy knows like the shape and

00:45:03.300 --> 00:45:07.250
the rhythm and the like the the like depth of

00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:11.369
you think you know the letter a alpha like jesus

00:45:11.369 --> 00:45:15.610
christ so uh joseph gets him like a second teacher

00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:18.469
after zach uh this guy's name is levi if i remember

00:45:18.469 --> 00:45:22.829
right uh and this teacher fights jesus and totally

00:45:22.829 --> 00:45:26.929
slaps him so jesus just straight kills him i'm

00:45:26.929 --> 00:45:29.349
still hung up on how we went from jesus cast

00:45:29.349 --> 00:45:32.849
speak with dead to performing miracles Like stretching

00:45:32.849 --> 00:45:39.710
wood. Bring back the dead. Close up magic. So

00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:42.829
after he kills his second teacher, Levi, Joseph

00:45:42.829 --> 00:45:47.010
and Mary ground him. So they lock him in the

00:45:47.010 --> 00:45:49.809
house. You're not allowed to leave the house

00:45:49.809 --> 00:45:51.949
because you keep fucking killing people. Don't

00:45:51.949 --> 00:45:53.829
do any close up magic on this fucking lock. It's

00:45:53.829 --> 00:45:56.050
very hardcore. Don't even think about moving

00:45:56.050 --> 00:46:01.119
my two by four either. So after that, a third

00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.820
dude is like, you know what? I think I got this.

00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.679
I could change him. I can teach Jesus. So Jesus

00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.159
goes to school like he just comes in and he's

00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.440
like complimentary and he's nice to Jesus. And

00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.639
so Jesus goes to school with him and he just

00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.880
impresses everybody. And the teacher, like instead

00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.860
of like trying to get him to do what he wants,

00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:22.380
he's just like, oh, yeah, go on, like speak your

00:46:22.380 --> 00:46:25.739
mind, like just just do it. And so Jesus just

00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:30.199
kept speaking and the teachers. say he did like

00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.679
great and essentially it's like you graduated

00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.960
so he went to school for a day and the teachers

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.699
were like you got it all man we don't need to

00:46:39.699 --> 00:46:42.400
do anything everybody claps as he leaves and

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.809
he probably he's like homecoming prince amongst

00:46:46.809 --> 00:46:49.190
men all those rivals are wiping a tear of joy

00:46:49.190 --> 00:46:52.849
out of their eyes god i begrudgingly love this

00:46:52.849 --> 00:46:56.590
okay so his last two teachers went blitheringly

00:46:56.590 --> 00:46:59.230
insane third teacher was like you're good you

00:46:59.230 --> 00:47:01.489
graduate here's your diploma leave yeah i guess

00:47:01.489 --> 00:47:05.269
smart yeah and so they were just cool so as like

00:47:05.269 --> 00:47:08.269
a i don't know like a parting gift to the school

00:47:08.269 --> 00:47:10.869
jesus was like you know you were cool so i'll

00:47:10.869 --> 00:47:13.889
bring back that last teacher that i killed like

00:47:13.889 --> 00:47:18.340
teacher three you're cool I'll let Levi come

00:47:18.340 --> 00:47:20.760
back. So he does. And he does more like good

00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.960
miracles and stuff. And everybody decided that

00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.119
he was holy or something. But yeah, so he like

00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.239
he gets all like holy and stuff. And so one time,

00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:32.320
like his parents and he were going to like Jerusalem

00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.920
for Passover. And when they were leaving, Jesus

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.760
was just like, you know what I'm going to do?

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:41.480
I'm going to fucking hide out. and stay and they

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:43.380
leave without him and they just don't realize

00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:45.260
like they think he was in the back of the wagon

00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:48.800
home alone yeah he home alone himself in jerusalem

00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:53.820
and joe pesci shows up and they figure out he's

00:47:53.820 --> 00:47:56.460
not there they like run back to go find him and

00:47:56.460 --> 00:47:59.679
jesus was just like they looked for him for like

00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.300
three days and tell me he threw a party they

00:48:02.300 --> 00:48:04.519
found him in one of the temples and he was just

00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.059
surrounded by all the like priests and scholars

00:48:07.059 --> 00:48:10.849
giving like theological just like debates and

00:48:10.849 --> 00:48:13.469
like not being mean but like talking to people

00:48:13.469 --> 00:48:15.389
and like going back and forth the few things

00:48:15.389 --> 00:48:17.710
that's actually in like regular new testament

00:48:17.710 --> 00:48:20.670
too yeah so and some of these things are actually

00:48:20.670 --> 00:48:25.869
like also referenced in the quran and uh the

00:48:25.869 --> 00:48:28.909
the torah maybe i don't remember i don't know

00:48:28.909 --> 00:48:31.349
no probably not the torah yeah that kind of predates

00:48:31.349 --> 00:48:34.860
this yeah um other things though But so his parents

00:48:34.860 --> 00:48:36.179
chew him out for sneaking off. It's in Torah

00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:41.820
2. Torah 2. The revenge. He just kind of brushes

00:48:41.820 --> 00:48:44.460
it off. And then like a bunch of ladies were

00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:47.239
like, oh, my God, to marry. They're like, oh,

00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.739
my God, you birthed God. You're so cool and great.

00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:53.300
And that's where she kind of gets into her like.

00:48:53.869 --> 00:48:57.510
super cool like i'm the mother of god like uh

00:48:57.510 --> 00:49:02.690
state yeah and so everybody that's the one yeah

00:49:02.690 --> 00:49:05.289
then yeah and then everybody's cool and jesus

00:49:05.289 --> 00:49:09.170
stops acting like a bitch so part of that was

00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:13.230
a retelling of what sean went through in the

00:49:13.230 --> 00:49:15.900
first grade I was going to say, I'm like, am

00:49:15.900 --> 00:49:20.159
I Jesus? Yeah. How many of your teachers did

00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.659
you kill and then bring back? Oh, none of them.

00:49:23.659 --> 00:49:26.280
None of them have been brought back. Bring back

00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:31.780
Sister Amanda. All right, Josie, what are your

00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:36.219
final thoughts on this one? I would rewatch it

00:49:36.219 --> 00:49:39.699
just to see what I actually missed now that I

00:49:39.699 --> 00:49:44.250
know more things. i want that movie it was super

00:49:44.250 --> 00:49:47.829
vague yeah i want this mixed with bright burn

00:49:47.829 --> 00:49:51.969
oh my god i mean that's kind of what this is

00:49:51.969 --> 00:49:54.530
and it's what i feel like it's spiritually what

00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:59.190
it spiritually what it wants to be but yeah no

00:49:59.190 --> 00:50:02.429
i feel like it needs to go harder one way or

00:50:02.429 --> 00:50:05.369
the other it's very middle of the road until

00:50:05.369 --> 00:50:08.190
the last the third act is when it's like this

00:50:08.190 --> 00:50:09.730
is the movie we should have had the whole time

00:50:10.510 --> 00:50:13.010
Yeah, I want more moody team Jesus. I wanted

00:50:13.010 --> 00:50:16.090
more horror elements. I know you guys aren't

00:50:16.090 --> 00:50:18.889
horror people, but I am. So you can do some fucked

00:50:18.889 --> 00:50:20.389
up shit with that. You're right. It's like do

00:50:20.389 --> 00:50:23.989
more like crazy murking people off or like miracles,

00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:26.349
you know, like both of those things are fascinating

00:50:26.349 --> 00:50:29.429
to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just have Jesus like

00:50:29.429 --> 00:50:35.860
wither somebody. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. all right

00:50:35.860 --> 00:50:38.559
so uh on the cage oh on the cage spectrum good

00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.559
cage bad cage bad cage good cage good bad bad

00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:46.659
good i'm going bad cage yeah yeah that's fair

00:50:46.659 --> 00:50:50.659
that's fair yeah i mean just because he's a carpenter

00:50:50.659 --> 00:50:53.059
it doesn't like it doesn't excuse those wooden

00:50:53.059 --> 00:50:59.360
wooden deliveries like my faith is shaken but

00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.300
i mean like That's pretty cool because Joseph

00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:05.000
was a total dick about religion in the in the

00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.960
text as well. That's true. So it's like, well,

00:51:07.059 --> 00:51:09.280
I mean, like, really, everything's pretty close.

00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.420
It just missed. Shitty cage, like an OK movie.

00:51:15.780 --> 00:51:18.440
Yeah, I'm with it. I would watch it again. I'm

00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.820
curious, but there's no chance that I would ever

00:51:22.820 --> 00:51:25.670
watch this movie. If not for the cast that it

00:51:25.670 --> 00:51:28.750
has. We could get some peyote and watch it. I'm

00:51:28.750 --> 00:51:30.369
sure that would make this movie interesting.

00:51:30.750 --> 00:51:32.610
Yeah, we can watch more of that. Like Horned

00:51:32.610 --> 00:51:36.949
Snake. Yeah. Horny Snake. Here was the research

00:51:36.949 --> 00:51:39.530
I did after watching this movie. Google. Did

00:51:39.530 --> 00:51:42.889
Jesus ever kill someone with the force? AI overview?

00:51:43.090 --> 00:51:46.110
No. According to the canonical gospels, Jesus

00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:48.949
did not kill anyone with the force. Yeah. So

00:51:48.949 --> 00:51:50.809
you got to ask Grok on Twitter. It'll tell you

00:51:50.809 --> 00:51:54.670
that Elon Musk is like hotter than Jesus or that

00:51:54.670 --> 00:51:58.590
Jesus was a Nazi or that Jesus was a Nazi. Whatever.

00:51:58.909 --> 00:52:03.789
I would give this one a skip. Fair enough. I

00:52:03.789 --> 00:52:06.969
mean, it made no money for it again. Well, not

00:52:06.969 --> 00:52:11.090
many people did. It made one hundred thousand

00:52:11.090 --> 00:52:15.489
dollars. Oh. I had so many like I had such a

00:52:15.489 --> 00:52:17.570
hard time finding this film playing at a reasonable

00:52:17.570 --> 00:52:20.150
hour, like most nights I couldn't find a screening

00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:25.090
before 10 p .m. Sunday, there was like I found

00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:28.250
a 630 showing, but I had to drive out to Tiger

00:52:28.250 --> 00:52:32.110
to like. See it, which is just like that's a

00:52:32.110 --> 00:52:34.250
weird amount of like distance to drive for a

00:52:34.250 --> 00:52:38.210
movie I don't want to see. But are obligated

00:52:38.210 --> 00:52:44.429
to see. Yeah, this is my cross to bear. That's

00:52:44.429 --> 00:52:45.010
all folks. That's all I got. And now it's everyone

00:52:45.010 --> 00:52:47.670
else's cross to bear. Yeah. Well, thank you all

00:52:47.670 --> 00:52:50.170
for listening. And next up, we actually are going

00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:51.750
to do Grindhouse. I know I said that last time,

00:52:51.829 --> 00:52:53.889
but then this movie came up and I had forgotten

00:52:53.889 --> 00:52:56.690
that it was on the agenda. So Grindhouse coming

00:52:56.690 --> 00:52:59.829
up with Cage Dancer John. So thank you to our

00:52:59.829 --> 00:53:02.130
Sparkle Buddies, Josh, Josie. Hello, Josie. That's

00:53:02.130 --> 00:53:04.289
me. That's you. Thanks, Josie. Matt, Adam, Bill,

00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:06.110
Stuart, and Willow. And to our Cage Dancers,

00:53:06.190 --> 00:53:08.489
John, Freeman, Nathan, and Cameron. And to Bill

00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:11.230
Panks for our intro music. Yeah, I don't know.

00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:18.530
yay jesus hey boo satan don't forget kids they

00:53:18.530 --> 00:53:20.530
pay us enough money and you can be on our show

00:53:20.530 --> 00:53:46.510
too that's right once one time Does he know this

00:53:46.510 --> 00:53:53.269
one? Only the good ones know the thumb trick.

00:53:53.489 --> 00:53:55.610
I think that was on one of the scrolls that I

00:53:55.610 --> 00:53:56.550
didn't catch on Wikipedia.
