oh god oh my god It's like the worst Foley work.
Just like shaming ghosts. Thunking along. Ghost
shaming and thunk noises. You're a whore. What
is this? A family reunion? Fucking get out of
here. How many chicks you been with with belly
button rings? I was talking to Pete about this
today. One. One? Yeah. I'm only a one too. No
one as well. I've been a bit of a who. So a lot.
Yeah. Like I don't have a tangible number. Allegedly,
every chick Pete has ever dated has had a belly
button ring. Interesting. Yeah, that's weird.
That is a weird Pete fact. Yeah. I like that.
I like that knowledge. Pete got married at like
12, right? Yeah, that's about right. So his dating
was one and she had a belly button ring. Yeah,
I think you've got the measure of it, Sean. Yeah.
So earlier today I saw a, you know, a screen
capture of something from a Facebook group called
Halloween Freaks. And this guy, this guy, Ted,
just said. If you're like me, you know that Halloween
is the perfect time for fucking and sucking and
dripping wet with sex fucking pussies and hard,
frightening cocks. Like this if you agree. And
Andrea had to come back with, this is not what
this page is about. But Willem Dafoe did like
that. Yeah, absolutely. With frightening cuts.
Yeah, just an eggplant emoji. Thanks. Oh, man.
I love this time of year. Freaks come out at
night. Well, I'm fucking exhausted and got my
flu shot yesterday and it's fucking wiped me
out. So welcome back to Cage Magic Hole and a
roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage. My name's
Sean. I'm here with... Nick. And our producer...
Peter, hello. This week, we watched the movie
Sunny, which was directed by Nicolas Cage. yeah
his one and only yeah which is kind of badass
and also weird that this is his one choice yeah
i get it based on everything i know about the
man which is very little i get it so i don't
know anything about the source material for this
aside from you know little little bits of trivia
or whatever i'm curious if it was also written
to be set in new orleans or if nicholas cage
took it and reset it in new orleans because that
sounds about right it does sound about right
that he would have put it there as like a passion
project right because the author set it up as
autobiographical or semi -autobiographical where
did you guys watch this movie at home thanks
nick i had a really hard time finding it on the
less uh up and up platforms the first one i downloaded
was a um a movie claiming to be sunny but it
was sunny s -o -n -i a hindi film from 2018 yeah
uh josie started that one and she's like it's
right here it's free and there's no ads and i'm
like easy peter said this isn't the one for us
yeah so then weirdly enough the one i found is
named sanny oh sanny yeah and that is the correct
one but we wouldn't recommend trying to find
this in the uh more dubious parts of the internet
especially given the fact that you wouldn't necessarily
know Going into it, you're like, okay, it's a
movie about a male sex worker. This porno sure
looks like it could be it. Sure. I mean, yeah.
James Franco's changed. Yeah. I mean, has he?
Hey, Nick, can I read you my quick review I said
to Peter last night? Uh -huh. I finished it.
All in all, positive in the film, despite it
not really having much of a plot. Well shot.
Acting was serviceable to good. Nothing atrocious.
The weird self -insert brings the whole thing
down from drama to farce, but otherwise, it's
a movie I watched. I'd put it a little bit above
it's a movie I watched, but your review is pretty
fucking accurate. Yeah, yeah. Most of those points
are pretty spot on there. I did feel a little
better about the acting, especially James Franco.
Just as a character piece for him. I think he
did a pretty good job about it. I mean, it's
James Franco. Yeah, I mean, we can get the hard
part of that over. He seems like a douchebag.
He's done douchebag shit. He is a good actor,
but like, fuck that guy. Yeah, but his weird
face. OK, I got to talk about his face for a
minute. He does squint a lot in his face. It's
one of those like everything turns into a raisin.
Like it's like it's all squinched up face. So
he smiles and everything is just. I do love his
smile. His smile is actually kind of infectious
for me because it's just so big and everything
about it is smile. OK, OK, I can give that to
you. I had a note of I hate his smile, but it's
mostly because I hate his squinch face. Well,
I hate everything above the nose. Just mouth
zone. Yeah, pretty good. He mouth smiles real
good. You know, I'd fucking I'd trade Leto in
a second. Oh, any day. Any day. Wait. You can
bring Franco back. I won't watch his movies,
but I'll hate him less than Leto. Oh, okay. Perfect.
No, I agree with you. For a second, I was like,
what? Are you super pro -Leto all of a sudden?
No. Watch the new Tron Aries and just really
fucking hot for Leto. Sean was the only person
to watch it. My favorite thing I've seen about
Tron Aries is a thing on the internet where someone's
like, movie Tron Jared Leto's name is John his
name is John Tron none of you will deny this
because none of you will admit to have seen this
film I do love John Tron and what you said earlier
was Jonathan Tron I added to the joke yeah prove
me wrong go to the movie you're not gonna do
it you morbius fuck Oh, yeah. So James Franco
comes back after being dishonorably discharged
from the military. So he's done with his Army
career, decides to go back to New Orleans before
heading out to take up a job with a buddy running
a bookstore in Texas. So he comes back to New
Orleans. We get introduced to his life where,
you know, he lives with his mom, who is the I
wouldn't even say the madam. She just runs a
whore in like a whorehouse, like singular whorehouse.
Yeah. And you only have the one bedroom. Yeah.
One bedroom has to share it with whore. And hey,
I'm getting all my whore. commentary in now you
asked for this yeah watching watching this film
i was just like well not even not even gonna
try yeah this is this is nick's film uh so let's
talk about your quote now i'm working through
them all right now yeah uh so he gets to come
home share a room with a whore and uh his mom's
pressuring him into being a whore again because
she raised him as like the best male whore in
new orleans and but he doesn't want to do that
so he tries to get out of it but the life sucks
him back in and it's him dealing with all the
horrible consequences of being a whore yeah it's
pretty good there's also like a dad theme And
complications with mom. Yes, there are some daddy
problems and some mommy issues. I mean, I'd say
the biggest mommy issue is she was whoring out
her son at age 12. Yeah, super fucked up. Like
all of it is pretty fucked up. Yeah. So, yeah,
like the little cast rundown. So you got James
Franco as the main character, Sonny. You've got
Brenda Blethen as Jewel, his mom. Harry Dean
Stanton is Henry, who for most of the movie,
you just is like, OK, this guy who's been around
in his life, who's sort of a fuck up drunk gambler.
Yeah, but he fucking kills it. This is great.
One of my favorite Harry Dean. And he turns out
he's his dad, but that's later. We'll figure
that out. Mina Savari in like, so she's been
in at this point, like American pie and American
pie too. And American beauty, a lot of American,
all American, all American actress. And then
like her career, like she doesn't fall off in
like a crazy way. She just sort of goes the way
of like. aging women actresses where she becomes
like a tv actor after her film career kind of
tails off so she made stuff like last year she's
still in the scene interesting um but this is
one of her last like big leading roles for a
while um and then beyond that like nick cage
plays a Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, your name's acid
yellow. You don't go around in chartreuse. That's
true. That's confusing. That's very confusing.
And that's kind of it. The only other one that
I liked was that dude who gambles with his with
Harry Dean Stanton. Oh, yeah. With the fucking
giant cigar. Who is that guy? He looks super
familiar. Yeah. His name is Seymour Castle. He's
been in like a billion things. He's just one
of those like bit actors that, you know, his
face. and like his face looks like it always
should have a cigar and in this movie it does
yeah that's sunny folks that is kind of sunny
how nick how do you feel as a person who likes
new orleans how did this rep new orleans for
you uh god it made me want to go back to the
70s because every time i've been to new orleans
zero prostitutes this is set in 1991 isn't it
what a shame yeah no toots at all the only toots
i got were from some dork's trombone did you
ever see a guy lick a guitar oh i saw some mean
licks on guitar but uh i don't know if i saw
a guy lick a guitar that guy was pretty wild
he was pretty wild that drunk ass scene have
you ever had like whiskey and club sodas and
like slammed it on the table to ultra fizz it
out no none of that made sense sean did you have
you had that experience like what the fuck was
he doing i wanted to ask if if anyone knew what
was going on there okay so later in the movie
we'll get to it but sunny is like timeline doesn't
matter yeah everything's gone out the window
his life has fallen to shit he's back in the
game he's sad about the game his dad has died
We'll talk about that. He learned who his dad
was. He learned who his dad was. So he goes out
and he gets fucked up like big time. And he's
drinking whiskeys and like club soda. But he
fills it up, puts a napkin on top of this cup
and then slams it. Right. To make it all fizz
up. But why? I don't know. I can only imagine
that it's probably like a different like mouth
feel like the. the drinking experience has to
be different because you're drinking something.
Yeah. That's like ultra fizzy. Like the bubbles
are just going crazy at that point. And then
you slam a whiskey soda that way. I mean, I want
to try it. I'm curious about it. But I can't
imagine being a bartender and allowing that.
The fucking mess of it. And then every time,
a new napkin. So what's he doing with those other
napkins? He's throwing them on the ground. You
gotta fucking clean that shit up. Yeah, it was
interesting. But if there was ever a city to
do it, I think New Orleans would be pretty into
that. Most of the action of this movie takes
place around Bourbon Street and the adjacent
blocks, which is just as... i mean like no whores
but it's just as wild now as then i'm ready to
go back to new orleans this movie fueled me up
yeah it's a pretty good like interesting picture
of new orleans i mean like it's definitely gritty
crappy you know like here's the which is still
new orleans like yeah right without the prostitution
or the visible prostitution right uh that's still
new orleans like i don't know if katrina really
fucked that city up or not i mean that's a obviously
it did and that's a take that i will sure fucked
it up in a different way like fucked up the culture
of it maybe not you know right that the culture
of it and well the heart of the city is still
very strong right you know the restrictive aspect
aspect of it is really like republican douchebags
fucking with no puritanical rules fuck off but
josie and i were talking about it and she's like
this is a great city to film like this kind of
period piece because the architecture of these
parts of the city have not changed. I mean, there
are buildings and homes there that have existed
for like 150, 200 years. Sean, have you been
to new Orleans? No. Okay. Let's go on a, um,
cocaine fueled trip to new Orleans. Oh, I can
show you all the places that Nicholas Cage has
lived and the place where he will rest. Oh, that's
right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His pyramids. I do feel
like we need to go see his mausoleum. It's pretty
sweet. Yeah, I agree. He actually has two plots.
He bought two plots, one for me and one for him.
He just doesn't know it yet. He was one of the
last people that was able to buy into St. Louis
Cemetery. That's wild. So you can't you can't
buy into it anymore. So because people like us
want to buy in now. taking down property value
yeah exactly yeah my bones are gonna ruin this
property value so this movie like i feel like
it has a strong start like the whole thing is
like he gets home from the army he wants to start
a new life get clean get away from his like the
mom who like made a made a whore out of him does
nothing to actually do that well he tried the
one thing he tried he tried to he tried to he
tried to get a job at the suit shop yeah and
was immediately like no and then straight up
no also those ladies solicited him while he was
there yeah which is bad business bad biz i understand
i was so what i was gonna say is like you know
he wants to get out of the life but you know
everyone through like circumstance and manipulation
gets pulled back in and as soon as he's back
in every trick every lady john like shorts him
and you know he gets more and more agitated by
the whole thing and kind of halfway through the
film he's just like well this is who i am now
this is this is all i can ever be and then it's
just kind of sad the rest of the film yeah it
is very heartbreaking to uh watch him come back
with like full of vigor he's got an enthusiasm
for books and literature and everything about
his life from the moment he gets back into new
orleans it's just like sorry dude sorry sonny
you're the best dick for hire in town and that's
all you'll ever be so that was that was one of
my questions for you actually nick is like What's
it like being the best dick for hire? Yes, thank
you. No, my question is like these movies are
all sort of like predicated on the fact that
like you come back to your town and like everyone
fucking knows you and you're pulled back into
the game. But like New Orleans isn't a small
city, right? I mean, it's not like huge, but
the idea that like the second he gets back, everyone's
like, that's that best dick I've ever had. It's
like, oh, hey, Sonny, I'm at the grocery store.
Look at this eggplant. And he's like, yeah, I
know. uh it's kind of not like obviously i've
never lived there but it's regional like everything
he's talking about is like the quarter he even
mentions like i can't go anywhere in the quarter
without being recognized for what i am for being
a big dick whatever swanger so yeah most of it
and we're still talking about the 70s and stuff
too or i think it's 70s 70s 80s something like
that that kind of was 91 that's what like it
didn't say 1991 in the beginning of the film
oh i can't read um just like sunny i pretend
i'm real good pretender he's also working like
richer people it's not just his neighborhood.
Like they're kind of far afield. Like they go
to the house to work the double. Yeah. Yeah.
There's a little bit of time spent outside of
the quarter for sure. So, but so like he gets
to that point where he's like, well, this is
who I am. But then what's the, what's his girlfriend's
name? What's the, her name's Carol. Carol. She
decides that, you know, maybe they can't change,
but they could at least hope for, they can at
least try for anything else. And rather than,
you know, him being like, sure, he's just like,
nope, this is who we are. This is all we'll ever
be. And so first half hopeful. Second half crushes
someone else's hope. Yeah, he's doing exactly
what his mom did to him. Yeah. So it's real sad.
Is this movie good? I think it is. I think it's
actually kind of good. I don't think like, OK,
despite my like very it's fine review of it.
It is fine. Like, and the, like I said, the acting
is for the most part good. Uh, I only have a
few, there's only a few things where I'm just
like, I don't know about that, but the acting's
good. It's directed shockingly well for, um,
I didn't expect it to be directed well at all.
Like it's beautiful. The score is actually really
good. It's really good. Nicholas Cage is as an
actor, the weakest moment of this. Yeah. Totally.
Oh, that's a whole different movie. Yeah. Yeah.
I would watch that movie, but well, I would have
to watch that movie. It meanders a bit. It's
there's not a strong through line throughout,
but like it's, it's well done. Like you can tell
the people who made it cared about what they
were making and they made something that I don't
know how culturally important it is, but it isn't
bad by any means. yeah it could have used a little
more like structural through line for it um everything
that happens with the characters is pretty much
in line and it tracks well but there's just not
something that really makes it go scene to scene
unfortunately yeah um beyond just beating sunny
down yeah if and if they would have spent more
than like two scenes hinting about the daddy
issues like if that was like his through line
like his dad wasn't around so his mom took advantage
of him his dad wasn't around so he went to the
army if like that was the through line throughout
then that would have tied up the made the ending
and his like kind of heel turn makes so much
more sense yeah and that one scene where he pulls
the picture down off the wall right it's like
well i didn't really love that story of it i
mean like i enjoyed the story of like oh my daddy
came in and protected my mom scared some dude
off yeah i mean like it just sort of came out
of nowhere it felt like it was just kind of added
in or like a scene was built to tell that story
yeah there was nothing bringing us to that story
Yeah, like I said, I just don't think there's
much of a through line throughout that carries
the entire that carries it from scene to scene
or carries the entire narrative. So my feeling
on this is like I really like this movie and
I think it was actually pretty good overall.
But like it's there's basically nothing happens.
You know, there's like it's so thin overall,
even though like I liked it because it's so like
specifically character driven. So like what I
what I want to talk about is like the performances
of sort of the main. three characters you know
it's like carol carol and sunny jewel and oh
i guess henry um his dad yeah i love that scene
where uh henry and sunny were talking and uh
henry was like oh you gotta think about the the
consequences and sunny's like oh you think i
shouldn't get out also you think i should just
stay and he's henry's like no but You got to
realize, like, just be prepared because the things
that you don't have to think about, the things
that normal people think about, like paying bills,
like going to PTA meetings, like it's hard in
a different way. Coming from somebody who makes
his living picking pockets and stealing. Right.
Talking to a male whore. OK, so let's get back
to the dad, because I think he's my favorite
character in this. I really liked him a lot.
So we'll go back to really well. Yeah, we'll
go back to Harry Dean Stanton. But how about
we do the mom, Brenda Blethen Jewel? What did
you all think of her accent? It was the weakest.
Yeah, well. uh i think it's i mean it tried the
hardest it did try the hardest uh there are definitely
times in it it's it veers very close to channing
tatum's gambit oh yeah yes yeah i don't know
a lot of uh off the beaten path women from louisiana
like i don't know a lot of like accents from
parishes outside of sure yeah uh the main portion
of new orleans or anything uh the the tourist
areas i don't know the the accents of the people
who do not get a lot of like outside influence
it it could be relatively accurate it was very
distracting uh especially in the beginning i
was like oh that's what we're doing like i got
over frank fucking franco's accent pretty quick
yeah i had a note immediately i was like and
then it was like yeah it's all right yeah i i
kind of settled into it and i was like okay yeah
actually there is a little bit of that like kind
of wet drawl sort of thing gross yeah wet drawl
yeah but the mom was extra and it was yeah a
little off putting it it took me out of it a
lot but then at the same time I mean, I have
a dad who says Creek instead of Creek. Fair enough.
He was raised in Oregon. Like, why does he do
that? I don't know. Rural areas. Wash your hands.
He says Washington. Yeah. And I live in Washington.
Yeah, I live in Washington to him. He lives across
the river from Washington. And it's Washington.
It's across the Creek. Yeah. Just across. The
Columbia Crick. That thick crick. I don't like
that. I don't like that either. Yeah, you shouldn't.
So, yeah, I mean, rural accents are fucking weird.
Yeah. They take bends, man. So she reminded me
like in in a very like more humanized, toned
down version of the mom from Wild at Heart. That's
exactly what I was thinking. And also Harry Dean
Stanton from that. Like he's he's a very different
character. He's almost like the fusion of that
character from Wild at Heart and the character
from that Dennis Hopper played in Rumblefish.
The dad, the drunk dad from that. It's like if
you. slam fucked those two together like aesthetically
and character wise i don't want to think about
harry dean stanton and just harry dean stanton
and dennis hopper slam slam fucking listen man
And you have problems with the things I say.
Sometimes I can get you. But no, I kept thinking
about that. Like the aesthetic of Dennis Hopper's
character from Rumblefish is exactly what this
is. It's all like the hat, the style, kind of
the fuck up drunk. You know, he's like kind of
a nice, likable guy, even though you're like
you're a fuck up. He's affable. Yeah, he's very
affable. You're sort of just like, yeah, I probably
drank with that guy. You know, like, oh, we absolutely
drink with those guys. They're our favorite guys.
That's true. I just OK, just for funsies. I just
Googled was Harry Dean Stanton ever young? What
the fuck? He only ever looks like he only ever
looks like a 68 year old man. I mean, it's a
good question. The first thing that came up,
yes, Harry Dean Stanton was young. Great. Thanks,
AI. Fuck you, AI. Yeah, I don't believe that.
At one point, Harry Dean Stanton was a child.
Prove it, bitch. Yeah, that looked like a 68
-year -old man. Numerically, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
He's got some kind of weird version of Benjamin
Buttons where he came out 68 and he stayed 68.
Just stayed that the entire time. He's a Highlander.
all right well let's talk about him then because
like he's he's probably my favorite character
in this entire thing like yeah yeah yeah um i
i think i kind of like his whole like vibe like
we kind of get introduced to him is our first
introduction like him being in jail yeah yeah
and carol having to go blow the bonds person
to get him out jules running this like scam behind
the scenes She's always using money as kind of
motivation for the game. So like I can absolutely
see somebody like that being like, oh, well,
my fuck boy is in jail. I could pay money to
a bondsman or I could just have some other mouth
suck his dong off. And I mean, one of those has.
zero repercussions to me sure yeah true i mean
that that's the pimpin game to get back to henry
like that's how we get introduced to him right
uh henry comes back he's you know lumpy ass harry
dean stanton and he looks like a melted candle
like just always oh man one of those decorative
candles that you get at the county fair yeah
yeah there you go put a hat on it yep borrow
john's hat put it on the candle wait just because
just because we name dropped john i did want
it the one thought i had the one note i made
for this film is when harry dane sand does eat
it in this film spoilers and like his car gets
exploded by a semi -truck and all that's left
is flaming flaming wreckage and a hat in the
middle of the road i'm like that's how john's
gonna go Okay, we gotta just talk about it. His
character's fine. It doesn't matter. He just
has these moments with Sonny. It's nice. He's
a father figure. He has dad moments. Dad moments
with Sonny without knowing that it's his son.
It was pretty clear after the first one. Without
knowing, it was his dad. Let me rephrase. And
then he leaves a gambling situation. And he finally
wins. He wins a game of gin and he's like, everything's...
Coming up Millhouse and he leaves, he gets in
his car and as he turns his car on and starts
to drive, Josie's like, uh -uh, don't do it.
And he like pulls three feet out, a semi hits
him and his car explodes. Like what the fuck
is in that car? Fireball. Yeah. Like that, that
part of the movie, I was just like, what? Yeah.
Happened. I thought the waiter was going to like,
just come out and fucking knife him. Like the
waiter, he. threatened like two scenes earlier
yeah he's like i gotta close up i gotta close
up oh that waiter oh that waiter was a dick yeah
i knew he was about to die i just didn't see
death by exploding car after semi -truck collision
being the cause yeah like that's that's the weirdest
weirdest way to introduce his death like because
you're right he he threatens this waiter earlier
because they go out on a fancy date and uh for
jewel's birthday yeah for jewel's birthday and
she's like kind of it's kind of all she wants
yeah so she has her shoes off and the waiter
comes over and is a super dick and he's just
like well as you learn to use plates and napkins
you know it's like oh fuck off dude yeah he was
a fucking piece of shit But yeah, Harry Dean
Stanton then threatens to kill that guy. Oh,
and he has such a good scene of it, too. Like
he pockets one of the knives off the table and
then gets it right up the nose. Yeah. So, yeah,
like to your point, Sean, like it would have
been more interesting, I think, in a lot of ways,
if that guy had been like, fuck this guy, I'm
going to get mine, you know, but instead it's
just a random truck and your car full of explosives.
He got he got he got little girl in Wicker Man
for real. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.
Nick Cage wakes up on a dock. That's the scene.
sees harry dean stanton in the water dives in
after him the water explodes what so he's dead
then they see his grave and it's like oh that's
your daddy it's like oh fuck why didn't you tell
me well he was worried he was a failure we're
all failures yeah that was like the one like
that was the one line that really like i really
enjoyed his jewel is like it's easier to say
than to live with oh yeah yeah i really like
that that was probably my most uh impactful line
if i had to pull one from this film it's a solid
line it's a great scene that again just falls
flat because nothing really builds to it there's
no like emotional arc there yeah it was pretty
weak throughout it was definitely i don't know
even a tertiary concern if that yeah That delivery.
I really liked Franco in that his reaction to
the lines were really good. I felt like his emotions
were pretty justified. Franco does have some
good like cage out freak outs in this film. Oh,
like when he and Scott Kahn are double teaming
those sisters. Yeah. Oh, and when he's like finds
out she's like addicted to cough syrup. Yeah.
Which also that was such a fucking weird thing.
We pivot. We pivot. OK, so he he goes on this
double date with his buddy in Texas who ends
up not being able to get him a bookstore job.
Scott Kahn of gone in 60 seconds. Kahn in 60
seconds. Kahn in 60 seconds. Son of James Kahn
of Hollywood. No, that's the fucking flying Elvis's
one. Oh, Honeymoon in Vegas. Honeymoon in Vegas.
Yeah. That's his dad. Oh, nice. Yeah. Well, you
know, I see it. I see it a lot. Yeah. So they
go on a double date with these sisters and obviously
they end up back at sister's house. And so Franco
hooks up with this chick. They're in bed and
she's like, oh, my God, you're so good at that.
You should do that for a living. He's like, oh,
I do. And then he explains all this thing about
like being a whore. uh in his words i'm a whore
then she's she gets uncomfortable and then she
goes to the bathroom and she's just drinking
cough syrup and he interrupts her and is like
what's this and he starts getting super fucking
aggro about it and he's like oh you're addicted
you're addicted to coding and he's smashing things
and he's just pulling everything out he's yelling
and he's freaking out he's fucking naked and
We never saw Franco's dong. No, no dong. Yeah,
close. We got close a couple times. A lot of
almost dong. A lot of butt. Lots of James Franco
butt. Very fit James Franco. Yeah. At least three
sets of boobs. Okay, so there was codeine woman.
Codeine woman. There was the older woman trick
that he used to have. Right. And, oh, the woman
at the, like, fancy party? No, he just like tore
her top. Oh, no. What about the cop one? Yeah.
No, we didn't actually get to see that because
he gets her on the bed and handcuffs her. There's
a scene where he's requested to go for a dress
event and it's he has to dress up like a cop
and do cop stuff. And then he has to fuck her
with the nightstick. Yeah. And she sucks off
the nightstick. It's like everything about that,
like. fuck cops but not that way yeah i'm really
glad he looked as uncomfortable with that situation
as i felt yeah so i'll re -watch it someday and
i'll i'll text everybody that listens to this
all 13 of you uh what that boob was the missing
boob the missing boob yeah the okay one of the
things we mentioned in that though they they
get um he and mina savari get contracted to go
to like a double date you know you fucked the
man i fucked the guy or the the lady and um oh
gosh yeah and it's like this big fancy party
and there's this scene where he's like eating
a sandwich in the kitchen oh yeah crushing it
into his fucking mouth and I don't know. I can't
remember. I think I was talking to you when I
was coming back from somewhere the other day.
And there was some comedian a while ago that
was making fun of James Franco, maybe at his
roast back in like 20 or 2006 or something like
that. They were just like, James Franco just
always looks like a person who's eaten a white
bread sandwich. And you can just see the like
leftover white bread in the mouth, like stuck
in the teeth. And that's exactly what I was thinking
about that moment. And then immediately he's
just like, I'm going to fuck you. Yeah. Tears
her blouse and throws her on the ground. Yeah.
He had no fucking care for like, I don't know.
fucking rhyme or reason in that it was just like
oh okay well the party's over i got caught eating
a sandwich in the kitchen better fuck this hoe
better fucker and then we're gonna go watch you
mina safari fuck this dude and he's just gonna
be like oh gee whiz gee oh gee whiz that's it
that's it gee whiz i loved how like fucking exasperated
her face was during that whole fucking scene
that was a great scene but the fucking wildest
part was when the kids come in at the end oh
dad are you done fucking your horse yeah your
casual saturday night yeah i can't wait to throw
a fancy dress party you're all invited oh thanks
i wear a turtleneck so i think we're at the point
we got to talk about Nick Cage we got to talk
about Nick Cage in this movie and his performance
and like the weirdness of the insertion of him
as a character um but like I do I do understand
why Tommy Wiseau saw this movie and was like
franco that's my guy because of these scenes
where he's like fucked up he's crying he's like
intense he's all over the place he's violent
he's crazy yeah like i that's the part that i'm
sure he watched and was like he's a slave to
the emotions right oh actually uh mentioning
that real quick before we get into like right
before the acid yellow scene When he's super
drunk and he's just outside that bar and there's
the time lapse. Oh, yeah. And he's just standing
there with like the like the classic hurricane
kind of glass. And everybody's like zipping around
behind him. But he's just kind of wobbling because
he's so fucked up. I thought that was really
well. That was cool. I like that a lot. That
was a good shot. Oh, my thought there was just
like the return of a guano vision. Oh, yeah.
Well, it was also like I think Whippet was playing
in the background of that scene, too. great just
like again like sound design music design in
this was really really well done yeah a lot of
the technical aspects of this film were very
tight yeah so yeah nick k nick cage's character
acid yellow is introduced right after this bender
scene um right after harry dean stanton's death
franco find out about his father goes on this
bender um and shows up at the door of the pimp
acid yellow um Because he wants to he wants a
date, but with a man and just this were introduced
to one of the weirdest Nick Nick cages ever.
Fake nose. Classic of this era. The season three.
Yeah. What is with the prosthetic noses? Why?
I think I think that it was something that he
was doing for a period of time that helped him.
Like, I'm a new character. Right. He was going
through shit like he was fucking with his teeth.
He was fucking with like. his hairline all this
stuff it's like you get to be a new person if
you like change some part of it allowed him to
disassociate with the celebrity nick cage to
do these indie things i mean that's my that's
my stretch on it i don't know or he just is like
i'm gonna be a weird dude in a ferrari who goes
is everyone okay yeah i don't know yeah it was
it was a choice but yeah so he has like five
minutes less than five minutes of screen time
and most of what we see of him is through blitzed
out first person yeah drunko vision is a good
way to put it yeah sort of fisheye flared out
on the edges I'm not the biggest fan of drunk
drunk vision in a film as a device unless like
especially this late in the game but the juxtaposition
of like Nick Cage, all blurry and like blitzed
out from Franco's point of view. And then just
turning to Franco and it just being kind of a
normal shot because no one else is that gone.
The group, the green poodle on the bar was green
and red. Yeah. A weird mini poodle. Yeah. I don't,
I didn't understand that. I didn't understand
most anything about that. It was a very eccentric.
Yeah. Like home. And it's so, it's so out of,
it's so tonally out there for this film. Like
it, it's a different film and it's not a good
film at that point. It's a very brief sequence,
but it just like it. it takes what trust we have
in the storytelling up to this point it's like
all right we're done i will add just like a point
for clarification uh in this scene he didn't
show up there because he wanted to fuck a dude
he showed up there yeah because he had some extra
energy to burn as you said and he was clearly
just going there to beat somebody up and The
time of the film, yes, he's going to go up and
beat up a gay guy because nobody's going to report
it. This did have my favorite quote of the entire
movie. It was Nick Cage. He does a line and he
goes, I love Kukak. That was my quote, too. I
like that. Yeah. No, it's just it's sick cane
sword, though. Nick Cage pulls out a cane sword.
He does pull out a cane sword. But it's also
like the oldest like schlubby man running after
someone like I'm going to get you. You know,
I even watch this on one and a half speed because,
you know, I do. Yeah. Yeah. Even that I was like,
that's slow, dude. That's a slow run. I just
like for me, like the way you put it, Nick, makes
a lot of sense in terms of like why he would
like go there to beat up a guy. same effect you
could have just had him fight a guy in a bathroom
you could have had him just pick up a john and
do it like the whole the nick cage of it all
and going specifically to a male whorehouse it
didn't need to be there it didn't need to be
its own location and i feel like even for the
timing of this film like a lot of the implications
of nick cage's character are in poor taste yeah
i just i just like this movie loses loses half
a star just for this losing half a point just
for this scene it's kind of too bad because i
feel like had he not included himself in that
crazed character this movie would be better it's
it's kind of still how i feel about the whole
thing it's like it's all sort of like a medium
good for me and this makes it like a little dip
where it could have just maintained the medium
good like i don't think this movie is like oh
fuck what a transcendent piece of art but it's
something you know yeah no it's got legs to it
yeah clear like i said clearly everyone involved
cared about what they were making yeah yeah which
is not what i was expecting going into this entire
week you know no i expected this to be a muff
a must a muff a muff i also expected muff i expected
this to be a must a much i expected this to be
a much rougher watch before before we get into
the kjo grid the very limited grid we can have
for this one i do want to just discuss the end
of the film where like god name sorry my brain
today uh girlfriend yeah carol uh carol um the
guy the gets a car from he's a car dealer and
he's like oh is it the same dude yeah yeah that's
why at the end she's like he wants the car back
we're gonna drive it to mexico got it yeah okay
uh so it's she says a couple times in the movie
that every time like he always asks her to marry
him and so since frank goes like we're not we're
not leaving i'm not leaving this life you know
she's like he's gonna ask me again i'm gonna
say yes and she does so they go to drive off
and there's the scene where like she's crying
in the car and like franco's running up after
her and they have the moment in the street where
they embrace hard cut to franco just in front
of his mom's door again i'm like i like that
yeah yeah i like the reality of that yeah the
of the person imagining a better life but like
unwilling to take the steps to do it for themselves
yeah and just living in the fucking shit that
they've developed for themselves yeah it's fucking
real yeah the ending um the the scene with the
mom uh saying you know um it's easier to say
we're all fuck -ups than hard it's harder to
live with that with that like um his his freak
out in the bathroom with a girl and like how
it's supposed to be different on like this side
of things like there's all these little moments
of genius like that like if we could extrapolate
that into a whole film great movie instead we
just kind of get these small little kind of hints
of it all yeah and it doesn't hold together which
is really i think the shame of this film and
makes me wish nick cage maybe directed another
film yeah so he kind of got into this window
where it was like this movie was panned critically
it made no money you know it was a total fucking
loss like what 130 000 worldwide yeah like disgustingly
small amount of money that's 130 000 yeah i think
that there's a part of it that like it tied into
the weird like tax failure of the next decade
that he has you know where it's like I can't
take risks. I can't do this and like fall back
on, you know, my fortune or my name or any of
these things that like I think he he stopped
directing because this hit at the wrong time.
And that sucks because it's actually not bad.
Yeah, I would love to see him try again. Yeah.
And he might never, you know. No, he probably
won't. We'll probably never see another Nicolas
Cage directed piece. And it's too bad. Yeah,
because it really is not bad. And, you know,
he he managed to get a crew together and like
good actors and like James Franco aside, you
know, he was a hot commodity at that point. Like
the people he surrounded himself with were artists
with a vision that seemed to jive with what he
was doing. And it fucking worked like it's way,
way better and way prettier and way more put
together than I ever thought that this was going
to be going into this. at a time where like his
like a -list stardom was waning as well like
this would have been a great transition if this
would have if this would have worked out yeah
um in retrospect kind of glad it didn't because
now we have like pig and mandy and joe but totally
you know imagine a world where like nick cage
kept making movies kept like directing what it
wait in what way like just remained an a -lister
forever Oh, sure, sure. No, I think Sean meant
more, like, if he had the chance to become a
director instead of... Like, if this movie would
have hit, would he have, like, pivoted more to
behind -the -scenes work? Right. I think he's
always been a movie star. Yeah. Like, he's always
described himself as a movie star. So, like,
dipping his toes in here and there, probably.
But, yeah, I mean, like, to your point, though,
like, that would be crazy to lose Nicolas Cage
as an actor. Right. Or just at least we might
have gotten less. I mean, certainly season one
and season two would be different. Yeah. All
right. Well, let's just do the grid because we
have to. Good movie, good cage, bad movie, bad
cage, good, bad, bad, good. Yeah. Where do you
put this one? All my critiques of the movie aside,
it's well made. It's the people who make it care
what they're doing. It's like that comes through
very well. And that. means a lot as you know
for me it's not boring um it just you know is
missing some could have used an edit uh i think
the movie was over edited yeah or got over edited
there's an editing issue i think the movie itself
is pretty good nick cage is the worst part of
this film yes yeah as an actor right right nick
what do you think uh i totally agree for once
um i hate to put that on right on record but
yeah uh nicholas cage is a we got a bad performance
in a movie that is structurally sound yeah so
it's a good film if you're interested in character
work that doesn't have a lot of like action to
it it's pretty solid film yeah i agree So next
episode, we've got the ant bully, which I'm sure
is going to be a very, very different vibe. I
can't wait to hear how many times they say whore.
Oh, so many. You're just an ant whore. Yeah.
Well, you're a whore, ant. There's probably like
a special ant word for whore. We're going to
pick it up. We're going to find out. Yeah. Yeah.
He plays like a wizard. I don't know. I think
he shrinks a boy. That sounds bad. So bad. Wait,
he's not the titular ant bully? Well, so the
ant bully, the main character is a turd to ants
in his yard because he is being bullied by a
human bully. And then he's projecting. So he's
like the destroyer of their world. So the ants
do magic and shrink him. So then it's a honey,
I shrunk the kid situation. Nice. And I think
the antagonist is a person hired to kill ants
in the yard. Mm hmm. Like or exterminator. Or
Orkin? An Orkin. Yeah. Okay. John Orkin. Well,
I can't remember. What's that? An Orkin man.
Yeah, an Orkin man. Okay. So I think that's it.
But yeah, Nick Cage is the wizard who shrinks
the boy. His name is like Zok or Zog or I don't
know. Fucking ant shit. Ant shit. Yeah. Whatever
the racist or. you know misogynistic word for
racist against ants i guess it's speciesist speciesist
i can't wait to get speciesist on something fuck
them grasshoppers yeah fucking hoppers oh god
i don't like that at all this already feels dangerous
all right thank you all for listening thank you
to our sparkle buddies josh josie matt adam bill
stewart and willow and our Rage Dancers, John
Freeman, Nathan and Cameron and to Bill Panks
for our intro music. And yeah, that's fucking
it. Come back for the ant bully and figure out
what ant racism is. Speciesism. Speciesism. Spisms.
I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Yeah.
Fucking hopper lover. Bye bye. bye bye all right
that's good enough hold on wait before you stop
that i've got something that i brought here for
us oh lord what is it what is it i got this in
the mail today I don't know what this is, Sean.
What could I have gotten in the mail today? I'm
about to watch Nick murder Peter. It's terrifying.
It's a knife. It's a gun from the mail. Yes!
It's the LaBuzzy! We got a LaBuzzy! Send me a
photo that I'll put it on our fucking Instagram.
Oh my god, it even says Buzzballs on it. Oh my
god. That's fucking fantastic. I love the LaBuzzy.