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Oh, God. Jesus Christ. Welcome back, Shay. Four

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-timers club. Look at you. Starting off. Thanks,

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guys. One more time, you get a jacket. Yeah,

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that's right. I should make cage match jackets.

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Wood wear. Yeah. I mean, if we get a really good

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one, like quality stitching of his face on a

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jacket. Fuck yeah. I'm into that. I would advertise

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the fuck out of this podcast by wearing that

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jacket all year round. I still think about that

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guy at the Rilo Kylie concert who had the face

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off shorts. Oh, yeah. one face on each cheek

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it's a perfect divide at the uh at the line but

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it was on front and back yeah i feel like you

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would get weird bulging with their nose and mouth

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zone on the front you're maybe i'm being too

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generous for myself Shay, if you did not get

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a message from me because I don't remember if

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I told you about it, we are watching the movie

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Mandy in the theater that we rented out for the

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finale on the 23rd. It's a Thursday night. OK,

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which probably not the best for your drive, but

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OK, cool. And if you haven't seen Mandy, it's

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a fucking trip. I don't think I have. So I probably

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I can't tell if it's up your alley or not. Like,

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how do you feel about gross horror adjacent?

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cult movies it really depends i it honestly some

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of them i can stand and some of them i'm like

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why have i lost two hours of my life how do you

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feel about cult leader penises and bathrobes

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oh sorry kimonos yeah it is a kimono body parts

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in general don't freak me out so oh no wait this

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is yeah like it's not like willem dafoe's penis

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no which was apparently terrifying wait Speaking

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of scary penises, here's what happened to me

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yesterday. Yes. Oh, yeah. Go on, please. So I

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have I printed a xenomorph chestburster for my

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friend who's pregnant for a Halloween costume.

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And it just it's this. Big phallic thing, and

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I was on a call with my therapist yesterday and

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didn't realize that it was just sitting right

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here, so it looked like there was just a big

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red dildo behind me the entire call. And then

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I saw it and realized I've had several work meetings

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today. Fucking awesome. Good call. Good cock.

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Yeah, yeah. Someone's calling HR right now. Yeah,

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exactly. Those cowards. I have not heard anything

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yet. Well, you've removed it now, so maybe. The

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next meeting. OK, crafting those emails generally

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take a little bit of time to like HR is not going

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to like have a blanket dildo in the background.

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I say you beat him to the punch and you just

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write an email back and be like, so regarding

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the dick in my background, it wasn't. And then

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direct them to the Xenomorph Wikipedia page.

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It's just subject line. Ari, my wang. My wang.

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Wang. Wang. Ah, Peggy Sue. What a fucking stupid

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movie. Indeed. It's the lovely month of October

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and the perfect time for a Christmas movie. It

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comes earlier and earlier every year. Before

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we get into that, welcome back to Cage Match,

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calling around about Wave Media, Nicholas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co -host. Nick.

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And our producer. Hello, Peter. I'm here. What?

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First time returning guest. Shay. Welcome back.

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Welcome back. hey hey y 'all and your second

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animated uh review yeah you you've made um you've

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forced me at at you forced me to watch some interesting

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things Listen, the Boom Boom Pow still fucking

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hits. This movie could have used some Boom Boom

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Pow. Yeah, this movie could have used some Black

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Eyed Peas. Yeah. And more Tracy Morgan. Oh, okay.

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So speaking of the music of it, though, holy

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fuck. The music at the end, Kate Winslet singing

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that song. What the fuck? That started rolling

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and we were just like, I'm done. Yeah, nope.

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I think. For context to our listeners, we're

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discussing Christmas Carol, colon, the movie

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from 2003. 2001, which most people would probably

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assume was that Robert Zemeckis like hot piece

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of shit. I did. Most people do. This is a British

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movie that came out and to no fanfare after a

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six million pound budget. It made like no money.

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Every pound that went into it. And every pound

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that was excluded from it. So so part of the

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challenge of this movie was definitely fucking

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finding it. Right. Yeah. It was not on any services

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that I could. Dug it up on the Internet Archive.

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Did you find it somewhere? I rented it on Amazon

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for two bucks. Did it look as dog shit as the

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version I found for everyone? Probably. I was

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looking for the version you sent. I couldn't

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I couldn't find it. So I'm like, I'll just rent

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it. Wow. OK. It did not look good. I believe

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I texted you. that this movie looks like shit

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yeah i think i said the same thing to peter but

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i was like it's not because of the video quality

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if you know what i mean right the video quality

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actually does it a service in blocking us from

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having to see it so much like i've never been

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so so thankful for pixels yeah i i got like i

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always get like a cascade of texts from everybody

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who's watching these movies and this was like

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very consistent messaging coming across Can I

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just say three things at the top? Yes. One, how

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dare you make me watch a Christmas movie in October?

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Two, how dare you make me watch this movie at

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all? Ever. Ever. Three, I liked the mice. Okay.

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Yeah, that's one of my bullet points. We're going

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to get there. Yeah, I just needed to just get

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my three. I do. I do want to share my initial

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text to Peter. I just from my from my couch with

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my phone, just took a photo of a still of the

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character Joe when he's first introduced to with

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the caption. I found a gear heart in this movie.

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Which one's Joe? Joe is the guy who's shaking

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people down for money. Oh, Joe fucking rock.

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See? Yeah, he was the best part of this movie.

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I agree. So it's a Christmas carol. We all know

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the story. We don't need to recap it because

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they don't. change it at all except they add

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cartoon mice because it's a cartoon well they

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also have the sandwiching of charles dickens

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reading it to a crowd of people yeah so there's

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the live action intro and outro yeah depending

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on which version you got yeah which version you

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get because they cut that out for dvd release

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but it added so much quality it was so worth

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it uh but here's my question just about the christmas

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carol story in general what the fuck does bob

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not bob cratchit uh fucking tiny tim's dad yeah

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crash it what does it do yeah i don't know he's

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like a book tallier he's like yeah he's just

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like he just writes in a book he keeps the books

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he's the accountant he's an excel spreadsheet

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yeah yeah but he doesn't he's not looking at

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anything he's not talking anybody he's just writing

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in a book i don't know He's got it all in his

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head, okay? Yeah, he's got a very talented brain.

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How dare you? It's a beautiful mind. Do you know

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how many more pounds they would have had to pay

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to animate pages next to him that he shuffles

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through aimlessly looking for receipts? They

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spent a large amount of their budget on the animated

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3D mice at the beginning and end. Yeah. I did

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like the transition from 3D mouse to 2D mouse.

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Yeah, I will say, though, that 3D mouse, you

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remember that movie? way in the 80s i think it

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was released and it had the little live action

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but animated little mouse in a car driving around

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god what is it like a stewart little kind of

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thing or kind of but it wasn't that it was like

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no was richard gear in it no i'll was it in richard

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gear i'll think about it was it in richard gear

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yeah that's an important question which small

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rodent was in richard Anyway, it reminded me

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of the 80s. OK, when you remember, just yell

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it out randomly, no matter who's talking, just

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so we can have it for later. You're maybe our

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most podcast guest ever. So you know how this

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works and we know you. One of the things that

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I was sort of realizing because I looked at this

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is like the last movie we reviewed was Deadfall

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1993. This movie is September 15th, 2001. And

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it's like that's a big gap right there. But it's

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a testament to the shit that he was doing. successfully

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in that window of time between 93 and 2001 because

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we hit all of those movies. This seems like a

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weirdly small role for him at this point in his

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career. I don't understand why he did this based

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on the enthusiasm of his performance. I don't

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know that he did do this. I think they just caught

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him like sleep talking. And he just knew the

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lines. He didn't even attempt the accent. Like,

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he could have slaughtered a British accent. No

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accent. No, like, ghost noises. It was just like,

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I am Marley. Oh, you thought that was a British

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accent? I thought he was attempting. I thought

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there was some, like, dropped R's, you know?

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Because I was trying to tune in on that as well.

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But it was only like, it was like three words.

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I felt like he was. Trying to slide in there,

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but again, only attempting and it was horrible.

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It's pretty bad. Yeah. Maybe he's only got three

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British words and he tries to slide those in,

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but the rest is like Boston Cop. Oh, the mouse

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and the motorcycle. Oh, I do remember that. But

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that mouse was better and that was 1987. That's

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all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. See, Shay,

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this is why we couldn't figure it out. You said

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car. I did say car. I did say car. My brain,

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it turned it into a car in my mind, in my mind's

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eye. I mean, a motorcycle is just half of a car.

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I knew it was a vehicle. I mean, a car is just

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two motorcycles with a little house in the middle.

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Right. Yeah. You understand how this works. Yeah.

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I'm on IMDb right now. This was like so the director

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of this movie, Jimmy T. Murakami. This was his

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final like film. Well, his final like important

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film is like biggest one. He did a music, a Kate

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Bush music video after this. Yeah. This was his

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last like film, like feature film. I hadn't realized

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that I actually knew this director when we were

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watching this. And one of the things that kind

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of came across to me when. they're doing the

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ghost of Christmas present, right? Where he's

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like flying around the city and it's very, you

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know, swirly animation. And it's like, Oh, this

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is actually kind of well done. And it, it reminded

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me of this old short called the snowman that

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I saw when I was younger, which is like sort

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of a, they made a book about, you know, exactly

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what I'm talking about with that one theme, the

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music. Yeah. You know exactly what I'm talking

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about. yeah no i know i wish i could so rachel

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hates that movie because she's like that music

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makes me like sad immediately when i hear it

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because you know the snowman ultimately like

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melts or some shit you know whatever it's not

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yeah um but it's the same director oh So that

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was one of his early movies. And then he used

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a lot of that same technique for this one. So

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like some of that, because that movie is kind

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of trippy in its visuals. And a lot of that flying

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scene feels sort of like magic trip, you know,

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and I was like, ah, this is why this feels so

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fucking familiar. It's one of the only scenes

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that has any real kind of like art direction

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behind it. They kind of try and do something

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different also with the ghost of Christmas future

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where. It's more of a still and very rough. Maybe

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the budget ran out at that point. I don't know.

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The ghosts are the only mildly interesting thing

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to look at in this movie. Yeah, mildly. Very

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mildly. Do y 'all watch King of the Hills? Are

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you pretty familiar with it? Yes, I'm pretty

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familiar. Is this snowman music? Yeah. So like

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Enya is just doing snowman music? Pretty much.

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Cool. You know what? I completely lost. I'm going

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to put that on the speaker out in my Halloween

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display now. Fantastic. It just really confused

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everyone. What were you saying? I don't even

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remember. Oh, I said something about King of

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the Hill. Oh yeah, King of the Hill. You were

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familiar with it. And there's one episode. I

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have it on DVD. So I've seen. I think like the

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first season and the second season, like a million

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times. And there's an old woman in one episode

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where there's a tornado at the trailer park and

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they're all like going down into the cellar.

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And she's like, get in the Frady hole. And it's

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like trying to get down there. The ghost of Christmas

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past. was so that woman was so that when she

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was in the old mode like old decrepit mode i

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was like get in the frady hole in my mind i can't

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stop i can't stop your listeners have now i've

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lost them all i'm sorry no no i think there's

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a good over overlap of our listeners that also

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are interested in king of the hill anyway and

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frady holes for sure that's okay the ghost of

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christmas house was like of all this was just

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the hardest thing to look at because it was so

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blown out to every other like thing on screen

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sure yeah the vibrancy of color for that oh sure

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yeah no one wants a blown out frady hole yeah

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yeah i don't i don't really know what to say

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about this film it's because it is just a christmas

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carol they didn't do anything with it so like

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cookie cutter like josie kept mentioning like

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hey did they just rip this off from the muppets

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christmas carol because like even the character

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design was the same some actions and stuff were

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done the same it's always kind of the same i

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mean yeah i was thinking of the scrooge mcduck

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christmas carol where like pete's the best one

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is with michael cain right like the uh is that

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like is that his name the best one is the racist

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one Wait, what's the racist one? Oh, that is

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the one. That is Muppets. You're thinking of

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White Christmas. Oh, yeah. I was thinking of

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Muppets because the only thing that's not a Muppet

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is Michael Caine. Yeah, and that one is good.

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Yeah, that is the best one because the Muppets

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fucking rock. Right. But so this one did have

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something that I thought was like, where is this

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story from? Because I had not seen it because

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usually the Christmas carol ends after he's like.

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yay everyone merry christmas merry christmas

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and then it's done but like you said there was

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like this song that that happens with with bell

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and and a whole story about a hospital and i

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don't remember oh yeah any of that there was

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a lot more like tiny tim oh yeah like attention

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this is the one version of this story where like

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it has a happy anywhere tiny in there because

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at the end they're like and tiny tim was fine

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i'm like no that's not how that story goes yeah

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tiny team has black lung like that's it kids

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love working in factories shut up that's true

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they've got small hands they have tasks to do

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tiny tim is tiny tim is canonically 33 at this

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point in his life yeah i did enjoy when tiny

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tim got bucket of water thrown on him while he

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was caroling that was nice scrooge is a big fuck

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i was like fuck that kid though yeah fair enough

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carol's suck also wouldn't it be funny if that

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wasn't a bucket of water but it was just like

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a waste bucket yeah he throws out his uh chamber

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pot on him yep there you go just frozen turds

00:17:04.170 --> 00:17:08.299
and little timmy's hair suck it dickhead okay

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so i mean we watched this movie because nicholas

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cage does the voice of joseph marley it kept

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throwing me off though it kept throwing me off

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though that the scrooge character design kind

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of looks like a caricature of nick cage oh yeah

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for sure yeah yes has that very oval face yeah

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certainly had he never gotten the hair plugs

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a future version yeah so the bell story i mean

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okay That is, like, a piece of it. Because other

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iterations do it and play it up differently.

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This one, like, hit it harder. But the thing

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that has never made any sense to me... There's

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just more of it, I felt. He's, like, always painted...

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And in particular, this Zemeckis one, where he's,

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like, a really old piece of shit. Like, he looks

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like shit. He is a shit. Right, his skin tone

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is, like... And he has this, like, beautiful

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woman that also had fallen in love with him because

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of a dance at fucking Fezziwigs. I'm like, none

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of this makes any fucking sense. Like... This

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one maybe played it a little bit better where

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he was like young and almost charming for a period

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of time. Yeah, they kind of gave him a better

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youth story. I feel like he was actually kind

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of decent. Has anyone ever actually read the

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story? I never have. I don't like books. I've

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only ever seen adaptations of it. I've done a

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stage show of it, and I've seen the Muppet Christmas

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Carol and maybe one other Christmas Carol. And

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who were you? A stagehand. Oh. As God intended.

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I'm not going to go read it, but I am curious

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if this is maybe more of an accurate depiction

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than we're used to seeing by a Muppet. Yeah.

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Or Zemeckis. Unless with the live action. charles

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dickens character set at the end he's like i

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know this is a different version it's true than

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i've written before that's my weird british that's

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such a good british accent no i was so confused

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when that when it started with the live action

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thing because that same actor in the same makeup

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plays charles dickens in season one of the new

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doctor who that's right so i like i turn this

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on and like the opening is kind of the same and

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i'm like Am I watching Doctor Who? Because if

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I am, that's what I'm doing for this week's podcast.

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Yeah, you would have had a better time, I'm sure.

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It would be weird if this movie was just a special

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like Christmas episode of Doctor Who. There was

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like an animated doctor in it. And see, this

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is already better. Yeah. And I don't even care

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for Doctor Who, but it would be better. I also

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like when Charles Dickens gets out of the cart

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and he's greeted by. the theater manager is like

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do you have snow in england did you not read

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the book yeah right it's cold as shit there no

00:19:58.869 --> 00:20:02.930
how cool was joe i was just gonna say let's talk

00:20:02.930 --> 00:20:06.069
about joe yeah i love anybody who has like cut

00:20:06.069 --> 00:20:08.450
off glove hands oh yeah that's like a certain

00:20:08.450 --> 00:20:12.269
vibe and he was just like a slab of meat he was

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a big old thick one he was good just shaking

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people down for all their hard -earned money

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putting people in debtors prison oh well i mean

00:20:19.769 --> 00:20:21.970
the cops did that fuck the cops yeah that was

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such like a cheery scene too it's like everyone

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having a horrible time getting thrown in debtors

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prison yeah like scrooge is just sort of like

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i'm gonna put a log on the fire well and there

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okay so there's the thing like in every animated

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version of this i've ever seen any version of

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the story i've ever scene it's just like they

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always just depict scrooge like he's a skinflint

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he's just cheap he's just a cheap guy who is

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what was the term skinflint isn't that a good

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one that is a good one i've never heard skinflint

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before and flute what skinflute is a different

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thing is it like a flint and steel where with

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like enough rubbing it starts a fire the old

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skinflint but he's like he's always just basically

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as a really hard steel though who's just mean

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like right people hate him just because he's

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mean whereas in this he's like no he is buying

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debts from the bank and throw and having people

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thrown in debtor's prison so all of their earthly

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belongings could be sold and he could get what

00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:18.599
little money he can from it yeah he's like sally

00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.519
may genuinely a horrid like character in this

00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:25.640
one and i'm like okay this makes more sense why

00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:29.130
everyone hates him Cause I'm shitty and people

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tend to like me. I think this is the big, like

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beef that I have with the entire Christmas Carol

00:21:35.009 --> 00:21:38.190
story in general is that like, it's about this

00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:40.910
guy who's a piece of shit, right? He sucks. He's

00:21:40.910 --> 00:21:43.950
a miser. He's a skin Flint, whatever. He plays

00:21:43.950 --> 00:21:47.250
the skin flute all the time. Yeah. It's like,

00:21:47.250 --> 00:21:50.750
and he just sucks and he sucks so bad. And then

00:21:50.750 --> 00:21:53.150
magically someone's like, Hey bitch, you're going

00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:55.490
to die soon. Or maybe not even soon. You're going

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to die. And he's like, No! Oh, yeah. The concept

00:22:01.349 --> 00:22:03.869
of mortality never crossed his mind. And that's

00:22:03.869 --> 00:22:05.630
it. And then he's like, fuck, I'm giving all

00:22:05.630 --> 00:22:07.910
my money to the poor. Like, you, street urchin,

00:22:07.930 --> 00:22:10.269
poor, here, have money, whatever. I don't give

00:22:10.269 --> 00:22:12.210
a fuck. Buy a turkey. I don't care if you steal

00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:14.390
from me. It's like, there's no chance that a

00:22:14.390 --> 00:22:16.890
rich person is ever going to do that. ever ever

00:22:16.890 --> 00:22:19.990
ever i'm gonna i will say this is i will give

00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:22.490
credit to this movie in one respect also at the

00:22:22.490 --> 00:22:25.390
end when he wakes up from uh the night and he's

00:22:25.390 --> 00:22:27.970
having his like what day is it moment he's still

00:22:27.970 --> 00:22:29.990
kind of shitty and then he's like no be better

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and he like apologizes to the kid but then he

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goes back into his apartment and starts getting

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ready and then he starts like having his normal

00:22:36.609 --> 00:22:38.549
horrible thoughts and he has to remind himself

00:22:38.549 --> 00:22:41.900
like no we're going to be better and i actually

00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:44.279
kind of appreciated that he's not instantly better

00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:47.019
he just knows he has to try harder that's true

00:22:47.019 --> 00:22:49.420
i noticed that as well i suppose i appreciated

00:22:49.420 --> 00:22:53.160
that aspect of this uh this rendition yeah that

00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.240
was definitely different from other iterations

00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.349
but yeah Like, could you imagine there's that

00:22:58.349 --> 00:23:01.509
CEO who's like taking his son's blood or whatever

00:23:01.509 --> 00:23:04.849
to try and get younger? Oh, for the fucking.

00:23:05.190 --> 00:23:06.950
I don't remember what company he works for, but

00:23:06.950 --> 00:23:08.829
it doesn't matter. You know who I'm talking about?

00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:12.069
Brian something. Brian Johnson or something like

00:23:12.069 --> 00:23:15.650
that. He's like getting his son's blood infusions

00:23:15.650 --> 00:23:18.829
and they have like come masturbation competitions

00:23:18.829 --> 00:23:23.650
together. Yeah. That dude is never. It doesn't

00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:25.269
matter how many fucking ghosts come to him and

00:23:25.269 --> 00:23:27.079
are like, hey, bitch, you're going to die. He's

00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:28.640
going to be like, whatever, I'm living forever.

00:23:28.819 --> 00:23:32.160
Yeah, he's taking all my money. He knows that

00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.740
he's like, well, yeah, that's why I'm a man.

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.940
That's why I'm doing as much of this shit as

00:23:36.940 --> 00:23:40.259
I carry me with my money. Yeah, that's why I'm

00:23:40.259 --> 00:23:44.200
living it. In fact, stuff my body with money.

00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.319
stuff my body with money if anybody wants my

00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.460
money they'll have to get it from me national

00:23:50.460 --> 00:23:53.480
treasure three that guy spends like five hours

00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.839
a day in like an isolation chamber i just i can't

00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.220
wait till the day he's told he's dying and he

00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:03.519
has to just think back on the thousands of hours

00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:09.359
he spent not doing anything i'm not gonna lie

00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:12.259
if you told me that i could spend five hours

00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:15.559
a day not being bothered by people i would be

00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.400
like fuck yeah give me five hours of nothing

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:20.279
think how rejuvenating that would actually be

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.059
to have five hours of just dead ass peace yeah

00:24:23.059 --> 00:24:25.700
i wouldn't have to worry about like work texts

00:24:25.700 --> 00:24:29.140
or emails nothing nothing i could just hang out

00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:31.460
like there's not even like a magnet that's a

00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:34.410
like doing anything to your systems unless i

00:24:34.410 --> 00:24:37.769
wanted it to maybe you do yeah it enhances the

00:24:37.769 --> 00:24:42.549
isolation it just pulls on my prince albert just

00:24:42.549 --> 00:24:47.029
right jesus i gotta balance it i mean if i'm

00:24:47.029 --> 00:24:49.769
rich i'm definitely getting a dong piercing so

00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:51.769
all right i mean i think the poors can get a

00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:53.490
dong piercing too i don't know that they're that

00:24:53.490 --> 00:24:56.670
expensive no well no the money if you need if

00:24:56.670 --> 00:24:59.109
you really need that no but i need to have the

00:24:59.109 --> 00:25:04.900
money to back it up in my 40s like like i need

00:25:04.900 --> 00:25:07.579
to be able to be like yeah i've got a fucking

00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:11.480
three ounces of steel hanging off my dick but

00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.339
how many people do you are you planning on showing

00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:16.680
this to where you need to i have a dick piercing

00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:18.980
i'm gonna show everybody to all the people but

00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:20.880
it's gonna be like the marley stuff where it's

00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.660
just like chains and hanging boxes oh man yeah

00:25:23.660 --> 00:25:27.690
yeah that's how you elongate i'll get I'll get

00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:30.029
a like a Catholic, what are those things called?

00:25:30.069 --> 00:25:33.329
A censor. I'll just be burning incense and dangling

00:25:33.329 --> 00:25:36.809
it off my dick all day. I'll be conducting rites.

00:25:36.809 --> 00:25:39.490
I'll be like, I'll have the little like broom

00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:42.309
splashing water on people just being like, but

00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:46.190
it's not water. It's never water. I've seen I've

00:25:46.190 --> 00:25:51.769
seen this in 40K. Oh, man. Was anyone else like

00:25:51.769 --> 00:25:54.029
underwhelmed by the amount of chains Marley had?

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:56.460
He just had like the one chain around his waist.

00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.819
Yeah. And then he was like, can you sit down

00:26:00.819 --> 00:26:02.900
or something like that? And he was like, yes,

00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:06.180
I can. And he like throws the box over the chair.

00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.279
I was like. What is this sassy nonsense that's

00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:09.839
happening between them? Weirdly enough, that

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.700
is in most of the representations of this. Because

00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:15.799
I watched three different versions of this movie.

00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.500
In preparation for this? In preparation for this,

00:26:18.539 --> 00:26:20.500
because I could only watch a little bit of this

00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:22.359
before. I was like, this is so bad. I'm going

00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:23.799
to watch the whole thing, and I'm going to do

00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.339
something else with my time. A masochist. Well,

00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.759
I needed something to talk about. Fuck. I just

00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.920
planned on getting drunk. I mean, it's working

00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:35.299
great. This is great content. I'm talking more

00:26:35.299 --> 00:26:37.299
the more I drink, and that's fine. All right,

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.700
so we know Nick's midlife crisis is dong piercing.

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:43.960
What's someone else got planned? With an incense

00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.200
attachment. I mean, I had two children, so I

00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:50.559
think that's basically it. Yeah, do you feel

00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:55.200
your mortality is more at ease? Listen, man,

00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.099
they're going to have young blood that I can

00:26:57.099 --> 00:27:00.119
infuse at some point and become youthful forever.

00:27:01.699 --> 00:27:03.960
That's good. I don't know what my midlife crisis

00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.839
is. Purchasing overalls? I'm not sure. Whoa.

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.220
Sick. Okay. Nice. Does it have like the bib pocket?

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.180
Yeah. Okay. Well, fuck yeah. What do you keep

00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:16.960
in there? I mean, probably some weed. Yeah. A

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:18.819
weed pen. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's

00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:20.420
where that goes. Sunglasses maybe. It's like

00:27:20.420 --> 00:27:22.359
no tools. Nothing you actually need in there.

00:27:22.500 --> 00:27:23.880
Well, sunglasses. Well, I'm sorry. Things you

00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.779
need. Excuse me. And my weed pen. All right.

00:27:26.859 --> 00:27:31.599
I recently got some overall shorts. their shorts

00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.660
with overall yeah okay i got those two maybe

00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:35.559
i had tip to marissa yeah that's probably we

00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:38.160
did it all for her birthday it was like seven

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.180
of us got them i love it yeah i feel cute in

00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:44.519
them so good what there you go you know what

00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:50.339
i'm picturing it that's perfect i love it but

00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:54.059
this movie um okay wait okay well you got to

00:27:54.059 --> 00:27:56.740
bring us down no i wasn't gonna i wasn't gonna

00:27:56.740 --> 00:27:58.500
bring it down because i was i was gonna bring

00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:01.859
up another movie that it The reason why I actually

00:28:01.859 --> 00:28:05.019
did kind of like the mice, even though the squeaks,

00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.400
it was like, there was a lot of squeaks. Like

00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:09.799
we didn't need, especially when they're not even

00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.480
telling us what the mice are saying to each other.

00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:16.759
It's just like, it's just like, yeah, a pantomime

00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.880
of what they're trying to say. But it reminded

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.500
me a little bit of the secret of NIMH. the way

00:28:23.500 --> 00:28:25.940
that they were they were drawn similarly looked

00:28:25.940 --> 00:28:29.039
a little bit so that maybe i think gave me a

00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.640
little bit of a nostalgic feel but also secret

00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.099
and m better better animation better animation

00:28:36.099 --> 00:28:38.759
also from the 80s this movie like the mice were

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.319
the only things that were like consistently well

00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.960
animated like as opposed to all the people who

00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.700
peter you said they looked like you know almost

00:28:48.700 --> 00:28:51.339
rotoscoped yeah it's like bad rotoscoping yeah

00:28:52.029 --> 00:28:55.430
yeah the animation of the people i loved when

00:28:55.430 --> 00:28:58.930
perspective didn't match up with the action like

00:28:58.930 --> 00:29:02.490
you're riding a horse and you're going like up

00:29:02.490 --> 00:29:05.210
and to the left and it just looks like you're

00:29:05.210 --> 00:29:09.670
the same animation being shrunk but like just

00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:12.470
kind of dragged across and it's like that's not

00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:14.650
how horses move their mouse and was just like

00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:18.769
putting this here it was like select all push

00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:24.349
screen record the animation was bad and i love

00:29:24.349 --> 00:29:26.190
like there's it's bad the whole way through but

00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:27.809
there are those little moments where like you

00:29:27.809 --> 00:29:30.210
can see that they just They either ran out of

00:29:30.210 --> 00:29:32.190
money or they stopped carrying the Fezziwick

00:29:32.190 --> 00:29:35.230
dance scene because like it lasts all of like

00:29:35.230 --> 00:29:37.650
four seconds. Like we need to loop this thing

00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:41.829
for a solid minute. So you cut away and then

00:29:41.829 --> 00:29:44.829
you cut back to the same like three jigs maneuvers

00:29:44.829 --> 00:29:47.549
and then you cut away and then you play it backwards.

00:29:47.829 --> 00:29:52.490
Ooh, reverse jig. I was trying to like watch

00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:57.579
this and then I started. At the same time, finding

00:29:57.579 --> 00:30:01.319
clips on YouTube of the other Christmas Carol.

00:30:01.500 --> 00:30:04.640
The Zemeckis one? I only watched a couple of

00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.220
clips because that's another one that like you

00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.339
can't find anywhere. And I just didn't want to

00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:10.980
pay. I didn't want to pay for it because I wasn't

00:30:10.980 --> 00:30:14.220
going to watch another full. Which is a half

00:30:14.220 --> 00:30:17.619
hour longer at least. This movie was already

00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:19.859
too long. The Fezziwig scene is like fucking

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:22.900
15 minutes in that. I found a clip and I had

00:30:22.900 --> 00:30:27.140
no idea what was going on. It was probably with

00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:29.539
the, I think it was with the Ghost of Christmas

00:30:29.539 --> 00:30:33.980
Present. And I can't even, he was in this like

00:30:33.980 --> 00:30:38.819
empty room. Man, I don't even know. I don't know

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:41.880
what was happening. It was really weird and creepy.

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.579
And that kind of level, it's like for those listeners

00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:48.779
who don't know, this is one that's really super

00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:53.700
3D. It was meant to be an IMAX 3D movie. Right.

00:30:54.170 --> 00:30:57.210
That kind of animation where it's almost real

00:30:57.210 --> 00:31:01.309
really fucking creeps me out. And I can't do

00:31:01.309 --> 00:31:02.950
it. It's horrible. I just can't do it. It's like

00:31:02.950 --> 00:31:06.049
you're not a Polar Express guy. It doesn't it

00:31:06.049 --> 00:31:07.630
doesn't matter. Like you're not going to hurt

00:31:07.630 --> 00:31:10.309
my feelings because I don't like any Christmas

00:31:10.309 --> 00:31:12.230
story. I understand people who appreciate the

00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:16.470
story. But yeah, that kind of animation, it really

00:31:16.470 --> 00:31:19.720
hurts my brain. It's repulsive. like zemeckis

00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.400
went so hard in on this and i was telling peter

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.359
this that in like 2005 in an interview he was

00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.400
talking about like his dream for this animation

00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.740
style he's like i want to remake yellow submarine

00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:34.700
with tom hanks but as all of the needles gross

00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:37.339
it's the only time i've ever thought about like

00:31:37.339 --> 00:31:41.720
honestly thought about murder So my quote, my

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.619
quote to Sean was the Zemeckis movie and tech.

00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.680
It looks like hot, shiny diarrhea was extruded

00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.000
directly into my eyes. It is. It's like it's

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.059
repulsive. It offends my eyes to look at that.

00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.480
It's like I think about certain kids TV shows

00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.380
that just like offend me because I have children.

00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:03.339
Caillou doesn't bother me that much, but like

00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:05.339
I don't want to watch that show. Sure. But the

00:32:05.339 --> 00:32:07.759
art design of that isn't like repulsive. Oh,

00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.549
sure. OK. The design of Peppa Pig looks terrible.

00:32:10.670 --> 00:32:13.809
It's just badly drawn, even though the show is

00:32:13.809 --> 00:32:18.529
not bad. It's cheap. Cocomelon is one of those

00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:21.049
things that is like a horribly cheap animation

00:32:21.049 --> 00:32:23.549
thing that just looks like shit. And this is

00:32:23.549 --> 00:32:26.430
exactly that. It's like, why would you choose

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:29.529
to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on this

00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:32.630
technology to like basically rotoscope Jim Carrey

00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:36.250
as all the ghosts and Ebenezer just looking like.

00:32:36.569 --> 00:32:39.529
hot diarrhea straight to the eyes like it just

00:32:39.529 --> 00:32:42.450
looks like shit yeah it takes all the joy out

00:32:42.450 --> 00:32:45.230
of animation and like he genuinely thought this

00:32:45.230 --> 00:32:47.569
was like the future of filmmaking oh totally

00:32:47.569 --> 00:32:49.589
okay and do you know why it was so bad do you

00:32:49.589 --> 00:32:51.829
know why he he did this you know why he like

00:32:51.829 --> 00:32:57.779
went down that rabbit hole money he made um skinflint

00:32:57.779 --> 00:33:00.119
and tom hanks castaway he made castaway and he

00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.680
between the island scenes where tom hanks is

00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.880
really skinny and beforehand when he was like

00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.339
a normal weight they had to like stop shooting

00:33:08.339 --> 00:33:09.880
for eight months so tom hanks could lose all

00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:11.720
the weight and gain hair so he filmed another

00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.059
movie in that eight month period and he was just

00:33:14.059 --> 00:33:16.099
like this sucks that i can't do what i want when

00:33:16.099 --> 00:33:19.200
i want we're just gonna animate everything oh

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.480
that's why he did that oh i was gonna say so

00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:26.009
he did this as a temper tantrum kind of That

00:33:26.009 --> 00:33:29.569
sounds awful. Yes. It feels like it. It feels

00:33:29.569 --> 00:33:31.730
like a child having a temper tantrum. He's like,

00:33:31.789 --> 00:33:34.569
I want to do it my way. Yeah. He got to animate

00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:37.190
a naked Angelina Jolie, though, so also kind

00:33:37.190 --> 00:33:39.410
of just like a child. Wait, hold on. Back up.

00:33:39.410 --> 00:33:42.130
Anyone could animate a naked anyone. Oh, okay.

00:33:42.990 --> 00:33:48.089
She plays Grendel's mom. Oh, nice. Yeah. Grendel's

00:33:48.089 --> 00:33:55.039
mom has got it going on. jesus fuck you sean

00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.779
that shouldn't have made me laugh yeah that shouldn't

00:33:57.779 --> 00:34:00.460
have made me laugh i'm not even drinking y 'all

00:34:00.460 --> 00:34:03.000
that was just i don't know that was the most

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.579
unexpected shit okay so so what is if not the

00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:10.519
best christmas carol movie like what is the best

00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.179
christmas movie so like best christmas carol

00:34:13.179 --> 00:34:16.059
movie jingle all the way I will hear no notes.

00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:18.599
Is that a Christmas Carol movie or is that just

00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:20.079
a Christmas movie? Oh, you said Christmas Carol

00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.820
or Christmas movie. Jingle All The Way is the

00:34:23.820 --> 00:34:26.559
best Christmas movie. Absolutely not. I'm still

00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.519
a Gremlins guy. Die Hard's a pretty high up there

00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.659
one. I love a rom -com personally, so I could

00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:37.940
watch The Holiday probably like 30 ,000 times.

00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.250
It's my guilty pleasure, but also... I don't

00:34:41.250 --> 00:34:43.150
really feel all that guilty about it. You can

00:34:43.150 --> 00:34:47.230
hear Jude Law say, hi, I'm daddy. And yes, and

00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:51.570
I, exactly. I've never heard of this movie. Also

00:34:51.570 --> 00:34:54.590
though, a movie with Kate Winslet, just tying

00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:56.469
it back. It's true, tie it all in. Tying it back.

00:34:57.289 --> 00:35:00.309
She doesn't sing either. She does not well. She

00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.849
does say a screwedly do in that movie. That's

00:35:03.849 --> 00:35:07.340
true. There is. There is. So it's got Scroodley

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:11.260
Doo and I Am Daddy. Okay. Can I just get like

00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:14.760
an audio clip of Scroodley Doo added in somewhere?

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.119
Yeah, please. Because I want to hear that in

00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.860
like a week. Yep. I won't look it up myself.

00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:21.719
That'll be part of our outro. We'll get Shade

00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:30.119
to just say Scroodley Doo. Okay, that movie is

00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.510
actually pretty good. That's like... Also, it's

00:35:32.510 --> 00:35:34.849
just cute. It's prime Jack Black for me where

00:35:34.849 --> 00:35:38.550
he's not like way over the top, like, you know,

00:35:38.550 --> 00:35:40.510
but he's still Jack Black. He's still Jack Black.

00:35:40.530 --> 00:35:43.389
He's still giving himself. But it's it fits this

00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:46.829
particular role, in my opinion. And it's I just

00:35:46.829 --> 00:35:50.469
like feeling good sometimes and not thinking

00:35:50.469 --> 00:35:55.010
about too much. plot or whatever it's a christmas

00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:57.030
film the plot's pretty thin regardless it's basically

00:35:57.030 --> 00:35:59.889
a wife swap christmas movie yeah that's it it's

00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:03.670
so and it's so crazy wife swapping wasn't it

00:36:03.670 --> 00:36:06.210
it's two friends who like it's a house swap you're

00:36:06.210 --> 00:36:09.409
bringing me right back oh never mind that's right

00:36:09.409 --> 00:36:12.389
they aren't partnered no that's why there's romance

00:36:12.389 --> 00:36:16.070
and a rom -comery of it all right i kind of like

00:36:16.070 --> 00:36:18.510
that no i'll just stick to porn hub that's fine

00:36:18.510 --> 00:36:21.239
you do that Yeah, all kinds of good Christmas

00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.000
stuff there, I'm sure. Yeah, they've got all

00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.500
the holidays on Pornhub. Pornhub doesn't discriminate.

00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.920
That's my favorite thing about them. Oh, what's

00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.420
their ID category like? Their what? ID. I'll

00:36:32.420 --> 00:36:36.260
check it out. Yeah. I'll give you a report. I

00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:38.380
didn't care for the mice. I'm just going to say

00:36:38.380 --> 00:36:41.119
it. Oh, now we can fight. Good. Yeah, that part,

00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:44.610
like I felt. It was so forced and it's like,

00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:48.409
quit fucking cutting to mice. Oh, I just also

00:36:48.409 --> 00:36:51.590
wanted the movie to end. Yeah. And the fact that

00:36:51.590 --> 00:36:54.630
it was always like. Here's a thing that now we're

00:36:54.630 --> 00:36:57.289
going to just interject into the scene. And why

00:36:57.289 --> 00:37:00.469
was Ebenezer always nice to the mice? What was

00:37:00.469 --> 00:37:03.510
up with that? Like he was giving them food. He

00:37:03.510 --> 00:37:06.329
was like talking to them nicely. Like if Cratchit

00:37:06.329 --> 00:37:07.969
had wanted a piece of cheese, he would be like,

00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:10.809
get fucked Cratchit. Yeah. But meanwhile, he's

00:37:10.809 --> 00:37:12.789
like, here's a fucking bowl of porridge. Fucking

00:37:12.789 --> 00:37:16.630
chill. Share it with your rat friend. Yeah. Invite

00:37:16.630 --> 00:37:20.059
more rats into my super nice house. I don't know

00:37:20.059 --> 00:37:23.739
about anyone else, but sometimes I'm like animals

00:37:23.739 --> 00:37:27.079
greater than people. That's all I'm saying. Yeah,

00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.260
that's reasonable. If there is a movie, I could

00:37:30.260 --> 00:37:33.760
watch a movie where a thousand people die, murdered,

00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.260
it's violent. I'm just like, okay. You know,

00:37:38.260 --> 00:37:41.460
and then I, if there's an animal that dies, I

00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:44.320
will fast forward sometimes. I will walk out

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.639
of the room because I will cry. And that's just

00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.360
not, so. In some regard, I didn't hate it, but

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.639
I was also like, why? Because that's not a part

00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:55.500
of it. It's a why thing for me. It's like, why?

00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.920
Why do we do this? Why is it doing it? I agree.

00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.619
The mice, it was a gimmick, but I didn't like

00:38:01.619 --> 00:38:05.960
it for the storyline that they added or didn't

00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.579
add. I just like the animation. That's fine.

00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.739
I was 20 minutes into this film and I'm texting

00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:13.639
Peter. I'm like, I can't tell if there's one

00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.130
or two mice in this film. Oh, yeah. Yeah, when

00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:19.690
it became two mice, it kind of clarified and

00:38:19.690 --> 00:38:23.190
like made it easier. But I also at the same time,

00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:26.090
not easier. I liked it when one mouse got excluded

00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:29.269
from the joy ride. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you couldn't

00:38:29.269 --> 00:38:30.949
make it through the window. It was like, fuck

00:38:30.949 --> 00:38:35.409
you, mouse. He has sin in his heart. Yeah. Rat

00:38:35.409 --> 00:38:39.590
bastard. The whole mice like subplot did not

00:38:39.590 --> 00:38:41.550
care for it, didn't add anything to it. I don't

00:38:41.550 --> 00:38:42.969
think there's anything wrong with like showing

00:38:42.969 --> 00:38:47.119
Scrooge has like a soft side for like. not people

00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.940
like for him just being like oh here's this tiny

00:38:49.940 --> 00:38:53.539
helpless animal that doesn't take anything so

00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:55.400
like i'll give it cheese like showing he's not

00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:57.880
a complete inhuman monster it's taking cheese

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.420
he's giving it cheese i i just think i think

00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:06.420
scrooge providing charity to anybody is antithesis

00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:10.179
to the character and i don't like it until like

00:39:10.179 --> 00:39:11.940
the end well i don't like the end either i don't

00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:15.099
like the movie but i don't like the beginning

00:39:15.099 --> 00:39:17.940
it's just inconsistent i think it's just super

00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:21.320
inconsistent and well yeah well they have that

00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:25.940
shitty ass song i know yeah so this movie is

00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:28.920
not good yeah um but let's let's get back to

00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.239
the the core of what we're doing here which is

00:39:31.849 --> 00:39:34.250
about nicholas cage let's talk about his his

00:39:34.250 --> 00:39:36.650
three little vignettes that he gets because he

00:39:36.650 --> 00:39:38.610
has well i guess four if you count him being

00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.170
the door knocker or whatever but he wasn't the

00:39:41.170 --> 00:39:44.929
door knocker oh he's is he not no that's that's

00:39:44.929 --> 00:39:49.050
um wait yes never mind sorry marley yeah yeah

00:39:49.050 --> 00:39:51.590
yeah okay sorry sorry so you have him being the

00:39:51.590 --> 00:39:54.590
door knocker and then you have him door knocker

00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:57.130
sounds like a slur and then you got up there

00:39:57.130 --> 00:40:00.860
with skin flint actually talking to scrooge for

00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:02.719
a period and then he has like two other little

00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.559
bits that don't mean anything you know it's just

00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.360
like reminder stuff about the chains and suffering

00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.019
there was one background character that laughed

00:40:11.019 --> 00:40:13.179
and it sounded a lot like nicholas cage in the

00:40:13.179 --> 00:40:16.280
beginning i think it was in my head canon it

00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.179
was they probably just caught him on on mike

00:40:19.179 --> 00:40:20.940
laughing and they're like we're gonna put it

00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:23.079
in put that in there just put hey we need some

00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.639
laughter right here so i mean i guess i guess

00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.619
we're at the point of like cage grid You know,

00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:34.360
like bad movie, bad cage. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This

00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.539
is rough. This is bottom left. It's bad movie,

00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.400
bottom, bad cage. Yeah. He was like high on something

00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.260
when he signed this contract. He was like, or

00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:45.699
when he told his agent. Yeah. He was like, ah,

00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.000
yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds good. Can I record

00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.960
my lines on an on a plane? Yeah. I'm pretty confident

00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.179
that he had watched the snowman and was like

00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:59.659
Murakami, man, like artist. yeah that makes sense

00:40:59.659 --> 00:41:01.760
i want to be i want to be in a murakami film

00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.559
and this was this was the one i mean honestly

00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.199
if i didn't know nick cage was in this i would

00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.559
not have recognized his voice because not a chance

00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.320
he's like again this is this is after like kind

00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.880
of his peak time this is kind of on the down

00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.940
slope and the performance really gives me like

00:41:18.940 --> 00:41:22.840
late 80s cage like in terms of the voice the

00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.960
projection like all of it just like this seems

00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.659
like so much earlier in his career than it is

00:41:27.659 --> 00:41:30.780
yeah it's a really flat line read the speech

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:36.099
was it was just weird it was just weird i don't

00:41:36.099 --> 00:41:40.239
remember it ever being that bizarre it was but

00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.179
it was also just bizarre i was like what is he

00:41:42.179 --> 00:41:45.380
even saying i don't this was by far probably

00:41:45.380 --> 00:41:49.360
the boringest marley that has ever been portrayed

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:55.380
there's no highs or lows it's just mid who plays

00:41:55.380 --> 00:41:59.659
marley in the muppets it's two it's the is it

00:41:59.659 --> 00:42:03.460
the old guys it's all guys yes it's the i can't

00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:06.179
remember it's maybe marley and marley or something

00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:11.260
like that we're marley and marley that's what

00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:13.300
it is there you can use that one too i'll give

00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:15.940
you free incredible free reign over that sound

00:42:15.940 --> 00:42:20.170
soundbite too if you need it That's actually

00:42:20.170 --> 00:42:22.369
part of the disclaimer. Thank you for releasing

00:42:22.369 --> 00:42:28.349
all your rights. Enjoy the Shay AI bod. Thanks

00:42:28.349 --> 00:42:32.570
for the consent, finally. We've been stealing

00:42:32.570 --> 00:42:34.630
it for the last three, but this fourth one really

00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:38.849
got locked in. I've been told consent matters,

00:42:38.889 --> 00:42:42.780
so we need that from you. So, yeah, shit. I mean,

00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.599
I don't know. Is there anything else to say about

00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.599
this movie or the performances or Christmas in

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.619
October? Don't watch it, y 'all. Don't watch

00:42:49.619 --> 00:42:52.579
it. Please don't. I mean, it's a ghost story,

00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.960
but it's the boringest of ghost stories. It's

00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.219
just prudes. It's like if you got haunted by

00:42:59.219 --> 00:43:01.619
that fucking ant you didn't want to see at Thanksgiving.

00:43:02.019 --> 00:43:05.199
Right. And if you need to watch a Christmas Carol,

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.460
you know which one to go to. That's all I'm saying.

00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.440
You know which one? The Muppets. Always. Or possibly

00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:18.039
Scrooged. Yeah, that one's pretty funny. I haven't

00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.780
seen that in a hot minute. Yeah, it has its moments.

00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.340
I guess Bill Murray had a really hard time with

00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:26.599
the director of that one. But Carol Kane as the

00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.260
ghost of Christmas present, I think is pretty

00:43:29.260 --> 00:43:32.500
fucking funny. She's good. Her voice is so bad

00:43:32.500 --> 00:43:36.400
and great. In everything. In everything. Just

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.639
always. Was she dead? Did she die yet? I hope

00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.260
not. No. I mean, she's got to be pretty old now.

00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.159
I don't think she died. She is not dead. I was

00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.820
like, she did Kimmy Schmidt recently. She did

00:43:48.820 --> 00:43:50.099
do Kimmy Schmidt. Yeah, I'm like, there's no

00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:53.340
way she's not dead. She's 73 years old, in case

00:43:53.340 --> 00:43:55.159
you're wondering. Alive and well. That's younger

00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.039
than I thought. Kimmy Schmidt seems older. It

00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.519
was a while ago. A while ago. Well, yeah, but...

00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.860
That was pretty early Netflix, like, original

00:44:02.860 --> 00:44:06.539
series. Yeah, I know it was a while ago. But

00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:09.940
really, it wasn't. People die all the time. Literally

00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:12.880
every day. But I'm glad that Carol Kane is still

00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.840
alive in 73. Yeah. Well, Carol Kane. All right.

00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.019
On that note. The best Carol that we've spoken

00:44:20.019 --> 00:44:24.119
of today. The only Carol that matters. The only

00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.500
one that matters. Yeah, well, fuck. I mean, I

00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:29.559
think that's kind of it, right? Yeah, fuck this

00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.460
movie. That sucks, and I'm actively angry that

00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:36.380
I had to watch A Christmas Carol, colon, the

00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:40.360
movie. What a stupid -ass title, too. Who puts

00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.000
colons in the middle of their titles? Especially

00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.440
to declare it's a movie, that you are going to

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.719
the movies to go watch a movie. Right. Yeah.

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:54.079
And that already is in movie form. Multiple times.

00:44:54.099 --> 00:44:57.260
Multiple times. It's not like it's a new concept

00:44:57.260 --> 00:45:02.059
for the story. the first time the movie just

00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:05.000
put on by a bunch of fucking colonizers yeah

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.409
well I'm gonna go I need to go cleanse my my

00:45:09.409 --> 00:45:12.769
eye palette and watch the muppet one now my eye

00:45:12.769 --> 00:45:16.070
and ear palette really and all your watch that

00:45:16.070 --> 00:45:20.710
one yeah i'll cleanse all my holes all holes

00:45:20.710 --> 00:45:24.070
are important holes peter oh man all holes matter

00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:28.449
good point so unfortunately next up we've got

00:45:28.449 --> 00:45:31.269
the movie sunny which is starring james franco

00:45:31.269 --> 00:45:36.190
boo um but Nick Cage does play a character named

00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:39.789
Acid Yellow, who wears a fake nose. Once again,

00:45:39.849 --> 00:45:43.010
there's a very consistent trend in the movies

00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:45.230
in his back catalog that didn't make the 64.

00:45:45.550 --> 00:45:49.889
He has a lot of fake noses. That's wild. And

00:45:49.889 --> 00:45:53.250
it's got Harry Dean Stanton, too. Oh, OK. All

00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:56.690
right. Is it a Christmas film? No, I think it's

00:45:56.690 --> 00:45:58.769
about a male prostitute. Fuck yeah. Is Harry

00:45:58.769 --> 00:46:01.969
Dean Stan playing another polygamist? Probably.

00:46:02.269 --> 00:46:05.630
I don't know. Let's assume yes until proven otherwise.

00:46:08.389 --> 00:46:10.570
Cool. Well, thanks for having me, y 'all. Yeah,

00:46:10.570 --> 00:46:12.349
thanks for coming back for number four, Shane.

00:46:12.449 --> 00:46:15.889
Next animated film. You're first on our docket.

00:46:15.989 --> 00:46:17.429
Oh, yeah. Do you want to come back for Ant Bully?

00:46:17.630 --> 00:46:21.289
Let me know. Yeah, sure. Why not? whatever you

00:46:21.289 --> 00:46:23.369
need as long as it gets me my jacket or would

00:46:23.369 --> 00:46:30.050
you prefer uh astro boy i'm genuinely i'm actually

00:46:30.050 --> 00:46:31.909
kind of excited for astro boy my friend tiffany

00:46:31.909 --> 00:46:33.590
talks it up a lot it's her she says it's her

00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:36.429
favorite nick cage movie okay interesting as

00:46:36.429 --> 00:46:39.090
somebody with kind of a natural astro boy like

00:46:39.090 --> 00:46:42.409
hair swoop uh it appeals to me is that another

00:46:42.409 --> 00:46:47.690
oddly like 3d animated style i mean it's a 3d

00:46:47.690 --> 00:46:50.409
animation one but i don't think it's like trying

00:46:50.409 --> 00:46:53.429
to be well crazy for anything i don't know i'm

00:46:53.429 --> 00:46:55.809
weird about those movies but well i'll uh check

00:46:55.809 --> 00:47:00.050
it out i'll let you know but yes good you're

00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:04.050
our animation guru now because we have to have

00:47:04.050 --> 00:47:05.869
somebody to balance out nick for just hating

00:47:05.869 --> 00:47:09.429
every animation ever i don't hate every animation

00:47:09.429 --> 00:47:13.090
ever it just happens to be that like spider verse

00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:16.889
shit aside most of it is nicholas cage has not

00:47:16.889 --> 00:47:20.880
put out a good animated film crudes and crudes

00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.139
too it's amazing it's not amazing it's just mid

00:47:25.139 --> 00:47:30.480
but it's good punch monkeys are good it's a mid

00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.929
that you can enjoy yeah you that i can enjoy

00:47:34.929 --> 00:47:38.949
yes more than this movie yeah well thank you

00:47:38.949 --> 00:47:40.769
to everyone listening and making it through this

00:47:40.769 --> 00:47:44.010
ride thank you to our sparkle buddies josh josie

00:47:44.010 --> 00:47:46.409
matt adam bill stewart and willow and to our

00:47:46.409 --> 00:47:48.869
cage dancers john freeman nathan and cameron

00:47:48.869 --> 00:47:52.329
and to bill panks for our intro music um if you

00:47:52.329 --> 00:47:55.030
guys want to come to watch mandy in a couple

00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:57.909
of weeks uh it will be playing at the beacon

00:47:57.909 --> 00:48:03.369
in seattle on the 23rd of october 7 30. Which

00:48:03.369 --> 00:48:05.210
will be like a week after this comes out, so.

00:48:05.429 --> 00:48:11.510
Yeah, so in one week. The song. Scroodly do me.

00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:15.730
Scroodly do. Doodly do. Oh my god, we both said

00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:22.650
scroodly. Yes. I'm holding Betty's hand.
