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Oh, God. Oh, my God. It's been a few months now

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that I've been hearing you guys talk about...

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Buzzballs? Yeah. This is my inaugural... Ballin'.

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Yeah. And my first and only ball. I'm not sure

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how much of it this would take to, you know,

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do away with two years of sobriety, but we'll

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find out. I don't think this is going to make

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you want to drink. No. Oh! Yeah. Pretty sure

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you're safe on having a little taster of that

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one. I could go again. It's like Boone's Farm.

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Yeah. It's like Smarties. Like the candies, but...

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No, that's like the medicine my dad used to make

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me take. Like the fucking, like, red shit. oh

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that's boone's farm okay yep oh man well if uh

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tiffany if you're ever listening to this which

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i know you won't be but no you're right that

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was awful tiffany's my uh florida friend who

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uh when i'm like my friends have been drinking

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buzz balls they're this she was just like no

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i'm from florida i know Yeah, well, I mean, it's

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a Texas product, so it's made like founded by

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women. So we're allies. Also, shout out to Josie

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for providing this. So this this week, we've

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got our our buzzball provided by Josie and we

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are drinking the I'm guessing it's a seasonal

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one. It's a witch's potion and it is caramel

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apple flavored. that's not what i get it's supposed

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to be candy apple yeah holy shit it's like those

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stupid fucking suckers it's kind of like us just

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a bunch of stupid suckers pretty much peter you're

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my sponsor now okay great i'll give you uh 10

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of whatever we get for one of your kidneys don't

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worry 10 that's not bad It's my kidney, though.

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I'm the one doing all the work here. That's just

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10 % of our next buzzball. I'm trading organs

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for buzzballs these days. Just replace them in

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your body with buzzballs. Even though I found

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a much cheaper place to get buzzballs. Inflation's

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really hitting hard. This just tastes like a

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whore hangover. Yeah. It's not going to be good.

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Yeah, it's a little sour. A little horny. A little

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bit horny. exactly a buzz ball sour and horny

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yep speaking of sexy that's not a segue we have

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a freeman here who's looking sexy aloha looking

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fit yeah freeman long time are you a cage dancer

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or sparkle buddy shit i'm a cage dancer long

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time listener first time caller i've said it

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a million times how do i know it is it is freeman's

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first time yeah and you you picked a a surprisingly

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fun movie I enjoyed it much more than than the

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reviews. But, you know, that's because I'm my

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first. So this week on Cage Magical and Roundabout

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Way meeting Nicolas Cage, I'm your host, Sean.

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Here's my host, Nick, and our producer, Peter.

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Hello. And we are discussing the 1993 movie Amos

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and Andrew. They're all the information up front.

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Yeah. I mean, we'll go through characters and

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actors and stuff because it's actually fucking

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dotted with good actors. Yeah. We just haven't

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gotten all that information out at the beginning

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of it. No, we've been terrible. sorry john i

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saw so when i watched the start of this movie

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last night i saw the what i'm assuming was the

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poster art from the original release of nick

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cage and sam jackson handcuffed together with

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a cop driving behind him and my immediate thought

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was to text peter nick and say i call not sam

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jackson just to be safe and i think that's a

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cowardly move This is a movie with some blackface,

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inadvertently. It's not inadvertently. It's very

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inadvertently. It's night ops. Is there two or

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three blackface moments in this? There's three.

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But one guy twice. Yes. He just really likes

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his night ops. Yeah, night ops. So Freeman, as

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our guest, you get the lovely job of trying to

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give a plot summary for us. um as best you can

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i i planned ahead here oh a script i like it

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yes yes uh oh yeah just the wikipedia article

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nice rich and famous but not famous enough black

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man andrew sterling buys a summer home on some

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massachusetts island his racist neighbors unaware

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of their new neighbor try and get the guy killed

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in his own home for being black uh the villains

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in this whole thing are most definitely phil

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and judy gilman Uh, they're, I love the Gilman's

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are so horny and racist. They're just so like,

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it's just immediately. They just, they just,

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I mean, they just pull the covers off blatant

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racism. Uh, they said everything in motion, uh,

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and the local sheriff just eats it up. It's an

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election year. It is. It is. Uh, he decides that

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he's going to put on a spectacle, uh, and help

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this out with his political aspirations. Of course,

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they end up screwing it all up and then they

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need a fall guy. Enter Nicolas Cage, Amos O'Dell.

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Amos is already in police custody, so it's nice

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and handy. They can just take him and and try

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to make him be the fall guy for all this after

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they finish shooting up poor Andrew Sterling's

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home. It's it's just awful. Did you write it's

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just awful? No, no, no. uh it was a killer delivery

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like inflection cues since this is a comedy just

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things keep going wrong and wrong it's like everything

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that can go wrong pretty much does nobody manages

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to do anything uh right it gets a little over

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kind of long and drawn out i get a little bit

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like just like come on guys like move things

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along but it is tidy it does it trucks right

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along tight 90 Yeah. And I mean, like everything

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ties up nicely, like they lay out the jokes,

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they set them up, knock them down. Yeah. At some

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point, it gets confused that there must be a

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hostage situation. And then it comes out that

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Andrew Sterling is the hostage. Cue up my probably

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my favorite character in this whole thing is

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Reverend Fenton Brunch. Oh, he's so good. That

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was my second text after starting this movie.

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Giancarlo Esposito. So fucking good. Yes, I did

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not expect that. Oh, that brought me a lot of

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joy. I really loved the multiple buses loading

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up with all the protesters and the singing and

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that they were all going to the island to save

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Brother Sterling. But somehow, though, because

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the police are just such morons early in this

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whole hostage situation, Amos and Andrew just

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walk out the back door of Andrew's house and

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go next door to the neighbor's place, the Gilman's.

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And and they just hide out there. We get all

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kinds of conflict. Then the Gilman's come home.

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And they're like, and Nicolas Cage is like, I

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want my I want your car. And poor Mr. Gilman

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is like, no. I'm not giving you that car. It's

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a gift from my wife. Yeah, his second wife. And

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so then Nicolas Cage turns to Mr. Gilman's wife,

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Phil's wife, and says, hey, Judy, I'm sorry.

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We got to take the car. Yeah. And to that point,

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Phil's like, no, no, not Judy. It was my second

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wife that gave me this car. Judy is my fucking

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wife. Yeah, apparently the third wife. The other

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bit in here is that for some reason, Nicolas

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Cage keeps ordering pizza everywhere he goes.

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Well, he has been in jail. Yeah. Well, and the

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second reason, the second time he orders pizza

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is because he's trying to steal the pizza van

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so he can have a getaway car. Yeah. Yes. I think

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also, though, he did see if you if you remember,

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we did see the pizza girl going into the police

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station. That's his other quirky character trait

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is he likes underage girls. They should have

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probably played that a little different because

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he's like a pretty likable criminal. And then

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it's like drop that in there. Come on. Yeah,

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I honestly thought they were going to lead into

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it a little more. And I was like, oh, no, how

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taboo is this going to go? Yeah, I was I was

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kind of worried when he asked her age and she

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said 17 and then he. didn't stop that like something

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really awkward was gonna happen it was uh it

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was endearing and heartwarming that she just

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wrote his phone number her phone number on his

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hand yeah and we never see her again thankfully

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yeah we see her one more time she drops the tape

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off with the press true oh that's true yeah debbie

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does give the press the tape that's that's a

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good point uh ultimately It gets down to the

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point where Andrew's just trying to get home

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and have a quiet night. Amos just wants to get

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off the damn island. He wants to get to Canada

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and probably just get off in general because

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he's been in prison. And so he ends up getting

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the car and Andrew decides, I think that he's

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just going home. He's just done with all this

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stuff. He wants a quiet night. But then he's

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out in the middle of this field and he sees his

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house on fire. And then he can hear the bloodhounds

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chasing after him. And at this point, Bloodhound

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Bob. Yes, Bloodhound Bob. And at this point,

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then what? Amos shows up in the car driving through

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the field, picks up Andrew. And then next thing

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you know, they're on a boat leaving the island.

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Yeah, they just like get out. They just did.

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That's it. Yeah. And I'm just like. this is a

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this is an island like the police are trying

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to control this whole situation it's like maybe

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put out a bolo for like white guy black guy in

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a car there was a random checkpoint on the island

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but no checkpoint at the ferry terminal like

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it's an island yeah they are really bad cops

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that's that's my feeling on this one the theme

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of this entire movie is cops are dumb dumb dumbs

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all right so this we touched on at the beginning

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but like this this movie is packed with fucking

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actors right so nick cage is amos odell sam sam

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jackson i love nicholas cage yeah he's great

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uh sam jackson is andrew sterling brad dorff

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is uh donnie donaldson um he's probably most

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famous for most of us as grimo worm tongue uh

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from the lord of the rings sean doesn't know

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what that is i don't know what a harry potter

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is either yeah nerd dabney coleman is the chief

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of police um who's that so he was in like tootsie

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and war games back in the day with um what broderick

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yeah when he was a little boy before he killed

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a guy yeah and then you've got mail he's just

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like one of those guys who's been around for

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a long time he's played like a doofy cop before

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too yeah with a mustache definitely seen him

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around i don't know what he's been that's this

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movie is i've seen them you know it's like yeah

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that face a lot of character actors so michael

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learner is the gilman yeah phil phil gilman um

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and he's just another one of those he's been

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in like barton fink harlem knights he's just

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in he was in the godzilla movie with matthew

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broderick um after he killed a guy yeah maybe

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i don't know matthew broderick ran that guy over

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carlo esposito and then my favorite is is uh

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bob balaban who plays the the guy who is like

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a hostage negotiator on the phone he's so good

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yeah rafink rafink yeah that was my favorite

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running bit throughout the whole thing because

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he's like calls into andrew's house after amos

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andrew have left uh the chief of police is just

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tied to a chair he can't talk and he's just talking

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through the voicemail and just like yes like

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turns out like just regressing his own memories

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like i wanted a pony my parents got me a turtle

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nine turtles but i still wanted that pony My

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favorite quote of his is actually my favorite

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from this movie. It's just this scene where like

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there's mayhem going on everywhere. He's in the

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cop car with this like remote sat phone or whatever.

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And he's just talking to nobody. He's just monologuing.

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I remember my 11th birthday. I had a party and

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my mom and dad hired a clown. It was a very,

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very funny clown. And he juggled and did magic

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tricks. My friend Ruby peed on the floor. She

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was really embarrassed, but I had a good time.

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Then my mom called him for my 12th birthday and

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his wife answered and said, oh, he's not a clown

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anymore. He's going to go to school to be a dental

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technician. I don't think I'll ever forget that

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moment. Driving this guy to kill everybody. Yeah,

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I enjoyed this film. I'm just going to say that

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up top that this was a fun movie that people

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could pick apart me, but still enjoy. I really

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enjoyed myself with it. just like what second

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scene getting a close -up on a lawn jockey uh

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it really set the tone for me and i was like

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oh okay that's gonna be the problem in this movie

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and it was yeah immediately too i mean like the

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conflict starts four minutes in or something

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like that it's like they they see sam jackson

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driving a car they think it's somebody else then

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they see him in his now home don't realize he's

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supposed to be there and They think it's like

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their neighbor because these are summer homes.

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So they're like they don't see people often,

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but they think it's like one of the neighbors

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and one of the neighbor's kids is like being

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held hostage. The Gilman's. You're right. They

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are the villains. They are the villains like

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from the jump. And then as soon as like Amos

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and Andrew are in the house and they realize

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that they made a mistake, they're trying to like

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play all nice, all goody goody. It's like, oh,

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we'd love to have you and your wife over. Even

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if she is white. Even if she is white. But then

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like. Turns out she's not. Yeah, Amos has. Oh,

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spoiler. Amos has their like their interview

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with the press junket. They're not actually the

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press, but they want to like they're kind of

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like ambulance chasers. Yeah, they're like that.

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What's his face from Nightcrawler? Like they

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just go out and take. Oh, yeah. That was a good.

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That is a fun moment, though, when I would. Cage

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puts on the video and he knows that it's outing

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these people being racist shits. And they're

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just watching. He's just played it back and forth.

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I'm no racist, but when you see a black man in

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a house carrying a serial killer, you know what's

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going on. Oh, yeah. I love I'm no racist. And

00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:11.049
then they have a dog named Rommel. this is one

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of those also that dog is awesome that dog was

00:14:13.450 --> 00:14:16.570
great i do love the line of like uh sam jackson

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andrew is allergic to dogs and rama wants to

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shake shake his hand and nicholas cage is like

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shake his hands like that dog doesn't like black

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people's like well he's not gonna like the next

00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:32.049
one if you don't shake his hand yeah No, yeah,

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Amos is very pragmatic when it comes to that

00:14:34.149 --> 00:14:36.789
stuff. I really appreciate him calling because

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Samuel Jackson is great at getting righteous.

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Yeah, he cuts through it pretty, pretty well.

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But, you know, there are points where I'm like,

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there hasn't been a joke in a minute. And I'm

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like, this is touching on some serious, like

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racial stuff. Like the chief of police, like

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gets his boots knocked off when he's like. tied

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up and like he runs out he gets home alone with

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broken glass i'm like all right there's the comedy

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yeah i love dabney coleman after his feet got

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fucked up with the glass anytime he's running

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or walking he has to do that like high stepping

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thing yeah why did he call him the n -word when

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he went in so he goes into the the chief of police

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goes into the house because he he technically

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holds all the cards yeah and he's being a super

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racist douche and then sam jackson clocks him

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brian pans him Yeah, just pan to the head. Not

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a good clank, but like, why did he say that?

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I felt like he was trying to lean into the character

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bit to try to control Amos more. The kind read

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is, I don't care about this person, so you don't

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hold any, like, comments here. Trying to erase

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Amos' leverage. But you could have done that

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without dropping the N -bomb. Yeah. Yeah, he

00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:50.740
does get paid for it. So, I mean, and then later

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on, he's, you know, going to he says he's going

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to charge Andrew with the attempted murder. Yes.

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For clocking him in the face. I forgot about

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that part. Yeah. So, you know, just bad cops

00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.519
all over. And that kind of I feel like that gets

00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.299
Andrew on the run with Amos. Yeah. So that that

00:16:06.299 --> 00:16:07.919
kind of brings them a little more as kindred

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spirits at that point. I will say certainly helps

00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.639
endear their friendship at the end. I'm like,

00:16:12.659 --> 00:16:14.519
this wasn't earned, but I'm glad they found it.

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You only need 90 minutes. I know, but like they

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like they're just kind of like Andrew's a hostage.

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They have a talk about like race relations. They

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get into a tussle in the backyard. They're best

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friends. Yeah, well, I'm yeah, I'm not going

00:16:32.870 --> 00:16:35.309
to say that like they really nailed it, but I

00:16:35.309 --> 00:16:38.529
enjoy their time on screen together. Yeah, certainly.

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Like, I don't think either of them changed much.

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Sam Jackson did find his way a little more back

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towards the center because of Amos is constant

00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:52.179
calling him on his shit. Yeah, which was good.

00:16:52.299 --> 00:16:55.759
I can't say that Amos became a better person

00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.659
through this film. No, still has lousy sense

00:16:58.659 --> 00:17:00.320
of direction. I mean, he still tried to man on

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that 17 year old. Yeah, it's true. He was originally

00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.819
arrested for delinquency, aiding in the delinquency

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of a minor. That was the official charge. The

00:17:10.420 --> 00:17:13.460
lines on all that are rough. Freeman, you said

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that you were going to try and watch this twice.

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Did you end up watching it twice? How did it

00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:18.579
hold up on the second watching within, you know,

00:17:18.579 --> 00:17:20.519
two weeks or whatever? Well, so the first one

00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:24.660
I was with Elizabeth. uh and we watched um well

00:17:24.660 --> 00:17:27.019
like as she said she i just put it on and she

00:17:27.019 --> 00:17:30.480
reluctantly was in the room uh about a half an

00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.720
hour in she's kind of starting to pay attention

00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.640
the last third she definitely was like okay i'm

00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.319
on board with this and i think she enjoyed it

00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.380
we had a good laugh the first go around the second

00:17:40.380 --> 00:17:44.599
go you know where everything is going so it's

00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.980
not quite as funny but also like there were things

00:17:48.980 --> 00:17:51.539
I was excited for that I was happy about. Like,

00:17:51.539 --> 00:17:54.200
like honestly, like the whole scene where the

00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:56.299
chief of police does drop the N word and then

00:17:56.299 --> 00:17:58.180
gets clocked with the frying pan. I know that's

00:17:58.180 --> 00:18:02.299
coming. Like, and, and I feel like this was Samuel

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Jackson is like in his prime where he's like

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full throated and he gets onto these righteous

00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:11.200
like speeches and it's just, it's hard not to

00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.559
love that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I will say this

00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.609
too. To the point is like it's very hard to not

00:18:19.609 --> 00:18:23.150
have some kind of not necessarily bias, but like

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you're watching it twice in like a week, two

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weeks. So it's hard not to remember all these

00:18:30.529 --> 00:18:35.950
jokes and have some kind of like preempt disassociate

00:18:35.950 --> 00:18:38.869
with a lot of the humor. Like if you had given

00:18:38.869 --> 00:18:41.519
it a couple months. like you may have forgotten

00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:43.480
one or two of the little things yeah comedy is

00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:45.440
hard because it relies so much on like surprise

00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.920
right yeah i mean john and i were talking about

00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.940
this he watched it with me and he we had subtitles

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originally but our version of it had commercials

00:18:51.819 --> 00:18:53.839
and shit and it was like this is terrible um

00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.180
and we were talking about how subtitles there's

00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:57.940
like a couple times when you don't really want

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them it's like comedies and stand up comedians.

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And it's like same vibe. It spoils it because

00:19:03.819 --> 00:19:05.900
you see it that split second. Your brain is processing

00:19:05.900 --> 00:19:07.940
the joke already. It's kind of the same thing.

00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:10.240
You've already watched it recently. You're going

00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.019
to know what's coming, right? Like, you know

00:19:12.019 --> 00:19:13.279
that there's going to be the jokes about whatever

00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:16.000
pizza or like sex toys with white people. Oh,

00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:20.279
dude, the sex toy drawer with the tube of sex

00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:23.420
grease, sex grease. I love sex grease. I knew

00:19:23.420 --> 00:19:25.859
that was coming. White people are weird and crazy

00:19:25.859 --> 00:19:28.720
or whatever he says. Yeah, he just says. white

00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:31.880
people my favorite was when he leans in on them

00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:34.759
uh later when they tie him up with the bdsm gear

00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.940
and he's just like perverts i think that's my

00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:41.059
favorite quote sam jackson don't yuck their yum

00:19:41.059 --> 00:19:43.259
but they did call the cops on you so you know

00:19:43.259 --> 00:19:45.539
yeah i mean they suck you have you have other

00:19:45.539 --> 00:19:46.980
things you can criticize about them leave their

00:19:46.980 --> 00:19:49.140
sex life out of it i was i looked it up because

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i was curious you know sex greases no i got the

00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:57.220
idea on that one i cracked that code um no i

00:19:57.220 --> 00:20:00.420
was me later yeah i'll let you know um so michael

00:20:00.420 --> 00:20:03.859
michael learner phil gilman he's 17 years older

00:20:03.859 --> 00:20:05.640
than the actress who plays his wife and it's

00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.039
like oh okay i mean that tracks for what the

00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.539
third wife situation is there absolutely but

00:20:10.539 --> 00:20:13.019
yeah just looking at them i was like how is this

00:20:13.019 --> 00:20:16.700
working it's like ah well he was a lawyer and

00:20:16.700 --> 00:20:22.000
he worked on the chicago seven which side yeah

00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:28.440
uh when they uh when the police uh chief does

00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.000
bring nick cage in and sends him into the house

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the part where nick is kind of prancing through

00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:38.380
uh the the entryway to the house and he looks

00:20:38.380 --> 00:20:41.359
back and he's like jumping and i just like i

00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.880
felt like that was just like a little kind of

00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:46.700
uh hat tip to like all of his physical comedy

00:20:46.700 --> 00:20:49.220
and he's just like i'm gonna go prancing into

00:20:49.220 --> 00:20:52.460
the house now and like Yeah. And it absolutely

00:20:52.460 --> 00:20:55.000
works in this situation, too, because, you know,

00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.680
he knows he's just there to be like a fall guy.

00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:00.980
Yeah. And he's going to get released. So he's

00:21:00.980 --> 00:21:04.740
just having fun with it. But yes, it definitely

00:21:04.740 --> 00:21:09.119
smacks pretty well of some of his older prancy

00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:13.140
moments. I do like Nick Cage's little slapdash

00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:16.680
MacGyver invention when he brings Andrew out

00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.170
on the porch where he gets a coat hanger. Tapes

00:21:19.170 --> 00:21:21.549
it to the front of the shotgun and has it around

00:21:21.549 --> 00:21:24.730
Andrew's neck to like lead him. Yeah. One million

00:21:24.730 --> 00:21:27.450
dollars in a helicopter. I love the million dollars

00:21:27.450 --> 00:21:30.910
in a helicopter. It just kept coming back. Oh,

00:21:30.950 --> 00:21:33.289
man. Why did why did the press show up? Was it

00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:35.349
because of Reverend Brunch? No, it's because

00:21:35.349 --> 00:21:37.789
of the Gilmans, because they're like, we should

00:21:37.789 --> 00:21:39.329
be on the news. This should be big news. So,

00:21:39.329 --> 00:21:42.289
yes, the Gilmans are the villains. So, yeah,

00:21:42.349 --> 00:21:44.569
they keep escalating the situation. They make

00:21:44.569 --> 00:21:46.549
it worse every time. I mean, also, if the cops

00:21:46.549 --> 00:21:50.430
would have just been like. we got told there

00:21:50.430 --> 00:21:53.109
was a black guy we're sorry um it would have

00:21:53.109 --> 00:21:55.390
sucked for them but you know what in america

00:21:55.390 --> 00:21:57.470
guys still would have been elected yeah he would

00:21:57.470 --> 00:21:59.029
have won his election probably probably would

00:21:59.029 --> 00:22:00.970
have gotten more votes you just put donnie on

00:22:00.970 --> 00:22:03.990
administratively for a couple weeks exactly boom

00:22:03.990 --> 00:22:06.470
slap on the wrist for old donnie yeah yeah oh

00:22:06.470 --> 00:22:11.430
fuck it when so you said earlier the second time

00:22:11.430 --> 00:22:15.450
you texted us was uh uh reverend brunt and brunch

00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:18.269
but it was actually when donnie paints his face

00:22:18.269 --> 00:22:21.170
black or like rubs dirt all over and you're like

00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:25.269
also not this guy do not want to be this guy

00:22:25.269 --> 00:22:27.250
in the photos uh you know you could just do a

00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:30.289
whole no i'm not you could do a whole photo montage

00:22:30.289 --> 00:22:34.890
of uh any one of us randomly selected in blackface

00:22:34.890 --> 00:22:37.250
i'm sure that would work fine just just freeman

00:22:37.250 --> 00:22:40.180
in blackface i'm not doing i'm not doing fuck

00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:43.740
all with that we're not replacing sam jackson

00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:45.619
and we're not doing any blackface characters

00:22:45.619 --> 00:22:49.019
that's probably for the best i found one of the

00:22:49.019 --> 00:22:51.819
scenes where there's a couple different non -blackface

00:22:51.819 --> 00:22:55.119
people hanging out with nick cage so does sean

00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:59.559
have to be a 17 year old girl judy gilman no

00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.259
amazingly they're never like officially in a

00:23:02.259 --> 00:23:04.839
scene at the exact same time so it's it's in

00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.839
the um it's before they have like enlisted amos

00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:11.650
fully into the like scheme they're in the like

00:23:11.650 --> 00:23:14.309
interrogation room or whatever so it's it's dabney

00:23:14.309 --> 00:23:17.069
coleman the chief of police and then um donnie

00:23:17.069 --> 00:23:20.380
yeah kind of in the background yeah Cage with

00:23:20.380 --> 00:23:24.180
his fucking foreplay tattoo. Donnie in white

00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:27.400
face. Yeah, the foreplay tattoo is so dumb and

00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.980
funny. His tattoos look so shit. They are so

00:23:29.980 --> 00:23:32.440
drawn on. His gold tooth. His gold tooth. I actually

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:33.640
kind of liked the gold tooth. I love the gold

00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.859
tooth. Also, I love like yet another Nick Cage

00:23:35.859 --> 00:23:38.859
movie starts where Nick Cage is working out in

00:23:38.859 --> 00:23:41.579
a jail cell. Yep. Yeah, doing handstand pushups

00:23:41.579 --> 00:23:44.380
or whatever. I mean, go with what you know, right?

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.759
Yeah, it's a small space. Yeah, so this came

00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:50.500
out in 93. Yeah. 94 was a pretty good year for

00:23:50.500 --> 00:23:52.980
Nicolas Cage. Yeah. And then 95, he was in Kiss

00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:55.440
of Death with Sam Jackson again. Ooh, nice. Yeah.

00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.480
Bigger. Much bigger. Much bigger. Sea monkeys.

00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.180
Oh, sea monkeys. They did earn their friendship.

00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.420
All right. Deep conversations. Yeah, that was

00:24:05.420 --> 00:24:08.319
a great conversation. While Cage smokes the last

00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:13.339
of the gilded joint. I wanted my family to be

00:24:13.339 --> 00:24:17.079
more like sea monkey family. The big smiles on

00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:20.519
the box. I did get sea monkeys when I was younger

00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.599
and they were such a fucking waste. It's like

00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.460
it was kind of cool. Well, they're just like

00:24:24.460 --> 00:24:27.799
shrimp. Yeah. And it was cool to see them hatch.

00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:29.359
And then they're like fluttering around and then

00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.019
they literally just all die. And there's just

00:24:31.019 --> 00:24:34.099
these corpses like waving around on the bottom

00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:36.799
of this little jug. Yeah, that's so cool. And

00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.000
it stinks. Yeah, they're they're pretty gnarly.

00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.000
I didn't have a lot in terms of quotes from this

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.420
film, but. The one that I that resonated with

00:24:43.420 --> 00:24:45.079
me the most because it's definitely something

00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.039
I fucking said. Nick Cage talking about his phobia

00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:49.900
of needles and Sam Jackson like you got them

00:24:49.900 --> 00:24:51.180
tattoos. They did those with needles, right?

00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:55.440
He's like, yeah, but I was drunk. And the tattoo

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:59.039
show. Yeah, you were definitely drunk. Yeah,

00:24:59.099 --> 00:25:03.039
I do have a tattoo that I do not remember getting.

00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.759
Which one is it? My TARDIS. Oh, really? Yeah.

00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:09.140
Interesting. I was in San Francisco, so it's

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:11.670
fucking cold. So like. By the time I came to

00:25:11.670 --> 00:25:13.950
in a coffee shop with my buddy Tony, I'm all

00:25:13.950 --> 00:25:16.309
bundled up and we're just talking like I sober

00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:18.190
up and I'm driving back to my buddy's place because

00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:20.349
I'm crashing at a friend's house. And he like

00:25:20.349 --> 00:25:21.730
text me. He's like, hey, where are you at? And

00:25:21.730 --> 00:25:24.029
I'm just like, I'm driving back. It's like I'm

00:25:24.029 --> 00:25:25.890
like, oh, and he's like, what? And I like roll

00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:28.849
up my sleeve and I'm like. I think I got a tattoo.

00:25:29.589 --> 00:25:32.009
Freeman, do you have tattoos? Just one. Just

00:25:32.009 --> 00:25:34.250
a little tribute from my dad when he passed away.

00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:36.490
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I can remember.

00:25:37.130 --> 00:25:39.309
Yeah, he had a, after this, I can go upstairs.

00:25:39.470 --> 00:25:41.930
We've got a family photo book that we got from

00:25:41.930 --> 00:25:45.250
my family when we visited this summer. And there's

00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:48.549
some pictures of my father before he met my mother

00:25:48.549 --> 00:25:51.089
when he was younger and some photos of him that

00:25:51.089 --> 00:25:53.289
I had never seen. And I think one of them has,

00:25:53.430 --> 00:25:56.349
no, no. I mean, I saw plenty of that growing

00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:59.000
up. My parents walked around naked. I got a weird

00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:03.140
household. No, same. So he used to have a tattoo

00:26:03.140 --> 00:26:06.680
on his arm that just said, fuck you. And then

00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.619
he got a cover up tattoo. And so the surfboard

00:26:10.619 --> 00:26:13.079
for his devil and surfboard, the surfboard covered

00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:16.079
up his fuck you. OK, so did your parents have

00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:20.240
any tattoos or do they? No, no. If they got a

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.220
tattoo, what do you think your dad would have?

00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.140
if there was one thing to immortalize on his

00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:29.900
body i mean my my parents are fairly catholic

00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:34.059
so i think it would be for him like a cross but

00:26:34.059 --> 00:26:37.339
like a cool denny trejo cross but like what it

00:26:37.339 --> 00:26:39.180
really should be is probably like a gin and tonic

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:41.880
oh cool yeah that'd be sick You mean your dad

00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.420
wouldn't get a tattoo that said born to lose?

00:26:44.380 --> 00:26:46.440
No. Pops had one of those right on his forearm.

00:26:46.819 --> 00:26:50.299
He had all kinds of good tats. And my mom, I

00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:52.400
don't know. My mom really loves swearing. So

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.299
I think she might just, she could have fuck you.

00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.579
A secret fuck you. Somewhere dad would never

00:26:56.579 --> 00:27:02.319
see. My dad only has one tattoo, but it's a,

00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:07.119
it's a dude on a motorcycle doing a wheelie through

00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.559
a giant skull that split in half with flames.

00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:13.609
jumping out the back of it all and it says uh

00:27:13.609 --> 00:27:21.210
i love my son no oh it's basically like a live

00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:25.230
fast die young kind of tattoo the hell yeah that

00:27:25.230 --> 00:27:28.809
is awesome that's pretty amazing he's an old

00:27:28.809 --> 00:27:32.390
biker yeah i get it my ex uh father -in -law

00:27:32.390 --> 00:27:35.329
meredith's dad had didn't have any tattoos but

00:27:35.329 --> 00:27:38.710
had like an enamel tooth put in at one point

00:27:38.710 --> 00:27:43.859
and had it custom done with the uh cyanide pill

00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:48.160
no maybe john's john's weird uh no he had uh

00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.240
the um rolling stone lips put on there so it's

00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.140
super tiny but like he'd like open his mouth

00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:54.140
like if you look to the back of his mouth you

00:27:54.140 --> 00:27:58.160
can see that that's so weird and specific yeah

00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.660
all right okay Where do you guys put this movie

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:04.940
in the like comedy bracket of Nick Cage movies?

00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.559
Not in like comedies broad. In terms of Nick

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.259
Cage movies, it's up there because there aren't

00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:12.119
a lot of great comedies in his bracket. Yeah,

00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.480
that's very true. It's like it's it was funnier

00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.599
and more fun than I thought it was going to be.

00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:18.259
Certainly. That was kind of one of my one of

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:19.619
my thoughts going through this was like, hey,

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:23.339
I know you had the unenviable task early on of

00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:27.220
trying to. gather and assemble the original cast

00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:30.039
of your brackets and you had to make some just

00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.539
split decisions uh based on reading uh watching

00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:37.839
trailers and reading a handful of reviews yep

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.180
it was a fever dream so uh my question to you

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:44.160
then mr peter producer would be of the other

00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.380
comedy elements in or the other movies in the

00:28:47.380 --> 00:28:49.759
comedy half of the bracket what would have you

00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.400
thrown out knowing what you know now well it's

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.720
kind of funny because like i think honestly what

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.940
would have gotten punted is a 16 seed which was

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:00.339
army of one i was just thinking about that i

00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:02.160
think that's the one that would have been 86

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.019
for it because this one was really low rated

00:29:05.019 --> 00:29:07.319
so good is the only reason amos and andrew didn't

00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:09.140
make it in and the preview trailer for it is

00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:12.259
not that good fair so like all the different

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:14.420
bits and pieces of it it's like watching the

00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:15.819
trailer for army of one i was like we have to

00:29:15.819 --> 00:29:18.180
put this in that voice is fucking insane yes

00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:23.099
you know exactly america makes the best chicken

00:29:23.099 --> 00:29:25.819
wings so so like at that point it's like that's

00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:27.200
the one that would have gotten punted and then

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.059
i don't think there's any chance amos and andrew

00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:30.680
would have made it as far as army of one would

00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.049
have gone very true So I think that it's still

00:29:33.049 --> 00:29:37.430
like I stand by it. I mean, like it could happen

00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:39.150
to you probably is one that I would I would hot

00:29:39.150 --> 00:29:41.690
swap this for that without blinking an eye. I

00:29:41.690 --> 00:29:43.829
would have kept it. I would lose family man personally.

00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:46.569
Yeah, I can see that. That movie's not funny

00:29:46.569 --> 00:29:48.910
at all. I mean, the best part of that movie is

00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:50.710
just Jeremy Piven. I was going to say Piven is

00:29:50.710 --> 00:29:52.210
the best part, which I never would say about

00:29:52.210 --> 00:29:54.630
anything ever. Yeah, this is the one time that

00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:56.490
sentence will be uttered. Or Trapped in Paradise.

00:29:56.910 --> 00:29:59.089
Nope, I stand by that fucking movie. That movie

00:29:59.089 --> 00:30:01.569
is god awful. It's so fucking stupid and it's

00:30:01.569 --> 00:30:04.650
pretty funny. I need to rewatch that again. I

00:30:04.650 --> 00:30:06.630
was literally just talking about that at a bar

00:30:06.630 --> 00:30:08.470
with somebody who randomly was like, did you

00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:11.630
ever see that one Nick Cage movie with John Lovitz?

00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:16.789
And I was like, yes. Of course I have. Yeah.

00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.319
I mean, yeah, I'm looking at other stuff. I'm

00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.140
like, I just did not enjoy Matchstick Men, which

00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.500
I should have because I liked everything else.

00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:25.200
Like, I love the cast. I liked the director.

00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.799
I just didn't like the movie. It was too predictable

00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.519
for something that was supposed to have a twist

00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.799
to be like, oh, yeah, the girl's totally playing

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.240
him. She's conning the con artist. And it's like,

00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:37.259
I saw that coming halfway through the movie.

00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.539
And it's like, I don't have fond memories of

00:30:39.539 --> 00:30:41.380
High Noon in Vegas, but I'm glad I was on there.

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.539
i mean roy bacon maybe yeah it's got the skydiving

00:30:45.539 --> 00:30:48.460
elvises thing i will say about honeymoon in vegas

00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:51.720
is when i went to that nicholas cage themed drag

00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.420
show somebody did a honeymoon in vegas act as

00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:56.920
a flying elvis which is fantastic yeah did they

00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.720
parachute into the drag show no coward for real

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.579
i mean there was a roof it was a small place

00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:05.700
hopefully there was some coward Hopefully there's

00:31:05.700 --> 00:31:08.240
at least some silk involved. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.440
there was that. You understand art. Yeah, there

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.660
was that. But yeah, there were no like aerial

00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:16.259
acrobatics. Were there aerial acrobatics? Yeah!

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.619
Oh, nipples, dude. Nipples fucking rock. We maybe

00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:25.160
have been doing this too long. I don't know.

00:31:26.420 --> 00:31:28.039
How many more movies we got left before we never

00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:29.799
have to talk to each other again? Still like

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.579
20. Well, and the man keeps making movies. Yeah.

00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.880
I'm still waiting for one of his shows to come

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.799
out so we can like talk about those for a few

00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.019
weeks. You can serialize it. Yeah, shows will

00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:43.599
be great. I really can't wait for Carpenter's

00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.059
Son 2. Oh my. The Jesus horror movie. Oh, people

00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:48.759
are really mad about it already. Oh, yes. Have

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.640
you been reading, like, the reviews on trailers?

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.019
I have not. They're just people just being, like,

00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.759
real angry. Like, just, like, fucking Bible beaters

00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.880
and Jesus freaks just freaking out. Like, did

00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.299
we really need a horror movie about Jesus? We

00:32:01.299 --> 00:32:03.240
got one about Winnie the Pooh, so fucking suck

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.480
it up. Also, Jesus has been in the public domain

00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.640
for so much longer. Jesus is part of the public

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.940
domain. So, yeah, he plays... ostensibly a jesus

00:32:12.940 --> 00:32:15.660
dad character he's the carpenter's dad you know

00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:17.920
and the carpenter's son of the movie but it's

00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.099
also like some weird horror shit biblical kind

00:32:21.099 --> 00:32:24.099
of crap so who knows it's probably gonna be dog

00:32:24.099 --> 00:32:27.900
shit but oh man fuck yeah we'll go see that absolutely

00:32:27.900 --> 00:32:30.759
no if it's at least as good as long legs i'll

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.420
be happy yeah there you go so so yeah i just

00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:36.559
pulled up the uh carpenter's son trailer uh first

00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.240
one they're not even trying to hide it anymore

00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.279
everything out beyond that Bible verses. What

00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:43.700
are they not even trying to hide? Don't make

00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:45.259
me do the work of looking up what you're going

00:32:45.259 --> 00:32:47.519
to say in the Bible. Father, forgive them for

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:54.680
what they know not what they do. Ugh. Yeah, just

00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.299
a lot of that. Although I like the last temptation

00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:02.920
of Cage. Nicolas Cage in Jesus Christ was not

00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.140
on my bingo card for 2025. That one's good. I

00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:09.220
think he's the dad. I don't think he's Jesus.

00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.180
I think he's a little old to be the son in The

00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:14.799
Carpenter's Son. He's got range. Wait, wait,

00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.619
if he's the dad, that... But not the father.

00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:25.960
Oh, fucking... Oh, people and their religion

00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.559
are crazy. We are truly living in a godless world.

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.220
Just speed running the end times with this one.

00:33:30.460 --> 00:33:33.019
Okay. Who are your favorite? Who's your favorite

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:36.380
character from this movie? Freeman, you can start.

00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.920
Maybe it's an outside angle. I'm going to go

00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:46.339
with Stacy. It's a delivery girl. Okay. I appreciate

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:49.160
that. She shot down Nick Cage. Yeah. She played

00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.940
very curious. She really leaned in like like

00:33:51.940 --> 00:33:54.640
she was interested in him. But then she's like,

00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:56.759
no, you're old and you're a creeper. And I'm

00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:00.980
getting off this island. Nice. Good pick. I really

00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:05.599
liked Phil Gilman, not as a human being, but

00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.280
as a heel throughout the movie. Pretty good.

00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.639
He is always got playing the angle. Yeah. And

00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:16.039
he's just so dislikable. The fact that he was

00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.469
willing to like. let amos kill his current wife

00:34:21.469 --> 00:34:26.170
over like rather than give up the like mercedes

00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:29.550
that he was given by his second wife this is

00:34:29.550 --> 00:34:34.789
so good i like the dog rommel yeah yeah uh also

00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:40.530
you're a big rommel fan too i liked i liked the

00:34:40.530 --> 00:34:45.989
the press guy Oh, the weird eyebrows guy? No,

00:34:46.050 --> 00:34:49.150
it was Andrew. His last name was Lake. Waldo

00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:53.070
Lake. I liked him. He was a pretty good character,

00:34:53.170 --> 00:34:55.969
you're right. When the cop's like, I need to

00:34:55.969 --> 00:34:57.530
confiscate that tape. He's like, I have a First

00:34:57.530 --> 00:34:59.170
Amendment right. And Chief Police just goes,

00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:01.829
fuck the First Amendment. I'm like, oh, that's

00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:05.349
real. Oh, this actually had a... Sorry, I know

00:35:05.349 --> 00:35:08.050
you're about to say yours. This had a joke that

00:35:08.050 --> 00:35:13.630
I had to look up when... Amos first goes with

00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:17.309
the... We're Amos and Andrew. Oh, the Amos and

00:35:17.309 --> 00:35:20.269
Andy thing? Yeah. Oh, you didn't know that? No.

00:35:20.329 --> 00:35:23.289
You think I listen to a lot of 1920s radio plays?

00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:26.510
There's history. I don't know, man. Like, I know

00:35:26.510 --> 00:35:28.429
about it. I don't know. Well, I think that's

00:35:28.429 --> 00:35:29.250
the setup of the whole... I mean, I might have

00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:31.110
known about it. This whole movie. The whole reason

00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:33.389
it's called that. Yeah. It's a lean... Like,

00:35:33.389 --> 00:35:36.090
all of this is just like an over -the -top, like...

00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.820
we're just going to make an example. I feel of,

00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:41.619
of like racist themes, right? Like it's just,

00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:43.860
we're going to lay in layer over and over. Hence

00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:46.900
the dog Rommel. Right. And if anyone doesn't

00:35:46.900 --> 00:35:50.239
know, so Amos and Andy was a radio play for quite

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.179
a while. That was incredibly, incredibly popular.

00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:57.679
But it was just like minstrel, blackface -y kind

00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.639
of whatever. Which they were on the radio. They

00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.099
didn't have to do the blackface, but they did.

00:36:01.179 --> 00:36:03.119
They sure definitely did. Yeah, but it was...

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.019
You can hear it. Got them into character. Written

00:36:05.019 --> 00:36:07.099
and voiced by two white guys. Two white guys.

00:36:07.099 --> 00:36:10.949
Of course. So, yeah. Yeah, so... At some point,

00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:12.989
you know, Nick Cage is like, oh, it's us. It's,

00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:14.789
you know, we're Amos and Andrew. And he's like,

00:36:14.889 --> 00:36:17.929
oh, no, you do not get to say that. I'm not even

00:36:17.929 --> 00:36:19.909
going to educate you on the history of that one.

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:22.510
I will say like. So, yeah, going to like, you

00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:25.269
know, this is just like, you know, the absurdity

00:36:25.269 --> 00:36:28.840
of like all racism. So when the. church group

00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.440
shows up when brunch shows up and like he instigates

00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:38.000
a riot at the house and which leads to the house

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.239
being burned down and then he books it real quick

00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.579
yeah oh we set this man's house on fire we gots

00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:46.920
to go like yeah well my favorite character was

00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.199
dabney coleman as the chief i think that is such

00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.059
a well done comedic role for somebody playing

00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:54.219
it straight but you know just always obsessed

00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:56.659
with his like polling numbers and everything

00:36:56.659 --> 00:37:00.179
and just like him getting more mummified as he

00:37:00.179 --> 00:37:02.679
gets more and more hurt the entire time well

00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.179
and he just keeps like at any point he doesn't

00:37:05.179 --> 00:37:07.599
win no at any point he could have just just makes

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.519
it worse gone too far yeah and just yeah makes

00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.420
it worse oh i know why they got off the island

00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:16.079
because according to because uh fucking what

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.940
was dilbert dabney fucking blackface cop donnie

00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:23.460
donnie uh Donnie Donaldson. Donnie Donaldson.

00:37:23.460 --> 00:37:25.260
Cause they find it. Cause Donnie breaks back

00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:27.920
into the house. Cause they think that Amos is

00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.460
still in there. And then the SWAT comes in and

00:37:30.460 --> 00:37:33.219
he gets flash banged. And then they pull him

00:37:33.219 --> 00:37:34.699
out and be like, we got Amos. We got Amos in

00:37:34.699 --> 00:37:36.239
front of the press. And then they realize it's

00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.079
Donnie. So they take Donnie in and they're like,

00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.639
we caught him. Yeah. But then they still bring

00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.579
the bloodhounds to look for the hostages that

00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:45.340
they couldn't find. So they're searching. They,

00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:47.739
but they want, they don't want the press to know

00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:51.840
that. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. Oh, and one

00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.300
extra bit from the second playthrough, because

00:37:54.300 --> 00:37:56.159
I didn't let it run to the end of the credits

00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.460
on the first playthrough. There is an extra scene

00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:00.539
at the end of the dogs running through a field

00:38:00.539 --> 00:38:02.760
with Rommel. We forgot the most important thing

00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:05.159
about this movie. The Sir Mix -a -Lot song. Yes!

00:38:05.420 --> 00:38:09.159
I miss when movies had raps. Yeah, when you have

00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:11.639
just a wrap -up song at the end that kind of

00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.039
tells you everything. And as a kid that grew

00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.480
up in the Seattle area, as soon as I hear Mix's

00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.340
voice, I turn to Elizabeth and I go... That's

00:38:19.340 --> 00:38:22.699
fucking Sir Mix -a -Lot! And I'm like, why? Just

00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:26.159
fucking why? There is absolutely no reason for

00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:27.920
Sir Mix -a -Lot to be there. What was the last

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.239
line of the song? I just, I can't remember. It

00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.280
was the N -word. Sir Mix -a -Lot's famous first

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:43.860
N -word. There was a guy who had Sir Mix -a -Lot's

00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:46.219
previous phone number. This was just like maybe

00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:49.780
eight years ago. And he would constantly be getting

00:38:49.780 --> 00:38:51.900
text messages and stuff from people trying to

00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:56.199
get a hold of Sir Mix. I don't know. I don't

00:38:56.199 --> 00:39:00.079
know what I should call him. Mr. Mr. Mr. Lock.

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:05.940
Mr. Mr. A lot. Mr. Sir Mix. A lot. And he would

00:39:05.940 --> 00:39:08.619
have to like keep telling me like this is not

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:10.699
his phone number anymore until eventually Sir

00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:13.280
Mix a lot actually was like, hey, I hear you

00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.780
keep getting my messages. Amazing. Did he make

00:39:16.780 --> 00:39:18.900
a voicemail that was like, yay, it's Sir Mix

00:39:18.900 --> 00:39:21.860
-a -Lot. You got the wrong fucking number. He

00:39:21.860 --> 00:39:24.579
raps it. He's like, hey, if you're looking for

00:39:24.579 --> 00:39:28.139
Sir Mix -a -Lot, I'm not going to go any further

00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:30.880
with that because that borders on racist again.

00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:32.719
If you think it's the number, it is not. Oh!

00:39:34.699 --> 00:39:38.610
Thank you. Thank you. Cut it. We're done. this

00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.349
podcast is over i was surprised to learn that

00:39:41.349 --> 00:39:44.050
mix was straight uh straight edge like oh yeah

00:39:44.050 --> 00:39:47.690
like like just completely no booze no drugs he

00:39:47.690 --> 00:39:49.630
seems like he'd be pouring cognac all over i

00:39:49.630 --> 00:39:51.969
ended up backstage at one of his i guess you

00:39:51.969 --> 00:39:54.920
don't have to drink the cognac a bunch of guys

00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:56.719
were like, let's, let's light a joint and pass

00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:58.380
it around. And I'm standing with them. And all

00:39:58.380 --> 00:40:00.599
of a sudden Mick smells it. And he's like, all

00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.980
y 'all tossed out. And we all got tossed out

00:40:02.980 --> 00:40:05.179
of the, uh, the green room. Cause I was standing

00:40:05.179 --> 00:40:07.840
by the idiot smoking the joint. And, uh, why

00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.840
is it called the green room? I know. I was like,

00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:11.920
I was like, don't be a bummer, man. When I saw

00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.599
Sir Mix a lot, they had a hype man just throwing

00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.280
Dick's burgers out. That's over the crowd. So.

00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.420
Yeah. So like, you're just in the crowd eating

00:40:22.420 --> 00:40:25.780
a. Dick's Burger watching Sir Mix -a -Lot. Most

00:40:25.780 --> 00:40:28.380
Seattle thing I've done in a long time. I wish

00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:31.820
I had a Sir Mix -a -Lot story. Yeah. Final thoughts.

00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.579
Freeman. Fenton Reverend Brunch. Try that one

00:40:37.579 --> 00:40:42.019
again. Reverend Fenton Brunch. Brunchin' Frontin'

00:40:42.019 --> 00:40:47.150
Brunch. Take two. Big balls! My final take. Don't

00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:49.829
drink buzz balls, kids. Yeah, we're going to

00:40:49.829 --> 00:40:52.329
lose. I'm going to lose us the sponsorship we

00:40:52.329 --> 00:40:55.369
don't have. Yeah, right. No way. Peter will cut

00:40:55.369 --> 00:40:58.869
that drink. We're talking about robo trip in

00:40:58.869 --> 00:41:00.909
last episode. Yeah, we're looking for big ball

00:41:00.909 --> 00:41:04.829
money. Sea monkeys. I want my family more like

00:41:04.829 --> 00:41:08.710
a sea monkey family. Yeah. Nick, Sean, final

00:41:08.710 --> 00:41:12.369
thoughts. I think this movie is a real treat.

00:41:12.469 --> 00:41:15.630
I think people should watch it. Unless you have

00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:19.769
problems with racism. Well, no, I mean, like

00:41:19.769 --> 00:41:22.690
everybody should have problems with racism. If

00:41:22.690 --> 00:41:25.269
you have problems with people being portrayed

00:41:25.269 --> 00:41:28.809
as racist, then you might have an issue with

00:41:28.809 --> 00:41:31.969
this. Yeah, that's fair. If you're like those

00:41:31.969 --> 00:41:34.070
nice white people can't be racist. They said

00:41:34.070 --> 00:41:36.130
so at the beginning. And I trust white people.

00:41:36.210 --> 00:41:38.429
Yeah, I will say might be part of the problem.

00:41:38.489 --> 00:41:41.230
I will say through the lens of time and media

00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:43.489
literacy. there are aspects of this that probably

00:41:43.489 --> 00:41:45.670
don't hold up great but i don't think it's atrocious

00:41:45.670 --> 00:41:48.130
in any way yeah i agree with that yeah i think

00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:49.889
all in all this was kind of a surprise movie

00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:52.289
for me where it's sort of like oh this was better

00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:54.469
than i thought and i even had you as a heads

00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:57.710
up being like it's not that bad and it was better

00:41:57.710 --> 00:41:59.110
than you thought better than i thought i had

00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:02.730
a good time um but yeah so next next episode

00:42:02.730 --> 00:42:08.699
we've got 1993's deadfall which is uh starring

00:42:08.699 --> 00:42:11.440
Michael Biehn, your favorite. And he marks it

00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.300
as one of his worst movies ever. Awesome. I love

00:42:14.300 --> 00:42:17.500
Michael Biehn. Yeah. So that's going to be something.

00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.079
Wait, did you want to say something on Mike?

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.639
Well, my mom came through. I texted her asking

00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.159
what my dad's tattoo says. And it's even better

00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.599
than I remembered. It says death is certain.

00:42:28.699 --> 00:42:32.199
Life is not. I love your dad. Dude, my dad's

00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:35.460
pretty chill. That's pretty good. All right,

00:42:35.460 --> 00:42:36.860
well, thank you all for listening. Thanks to

00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:39.320
our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Josie, Matt, Adam,

00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.599
Bill, and Stuart. And to our Cage Dancers, Ira,

00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:46.780
John, Freeman, Nathan, and Cameron. And to Bill

00:42:46.780 --> 00:42:49.039
Panks for our intro music. And yeah, we'll see

00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.340
you in two weeks for Michael Biehn's least favorite

00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:57.480
movie. Deadfall. He got paid for Alien 3, so

00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:02.920
I, you know. So... Where are we putting this?

00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:04.480
I don't know. He got paid a lot to like being

00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.860
to die. Like, yeah. Or actually, I don't even

00:43:06.860 --> 00:43:08.260
think he was in it. I think they just used like

00:43:08.260 --> 00:43:12.119
a photo of him. But he got paid for it. That

00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:13.500
would be my favorite movie. Get paid a bunch

00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:16.139
of money to not do anything. Yeah. That sounds

00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:20.480
awesome. Let's get rich. Buzz balls. Yeah. Buzz

00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.300
balls. I think that's their theme song. Buzz

00:43:24.300 --> 00:43:27.860
balls. We can we can write a buzz ball. Texas.

00:43:29.179 --> 00:43:33.210
Texas. Buzz balls. Oh, we got to make some truck

00:43:33.210 --> 00:43:37.969
nuts with those. Holy fuck. Buzz nuts. That's

00:43:37.969 --> 00:43:39.869
actually pretty good. Yeah. If you want to get

00:43:39.869 --> 00:43:43.730
pulled over real fucking fast, give yourself

00:43:43.730 --> 00:43:48.769
some big buzz balls, biggies, truck nuts. One

00:43:48.769 --> 00:43:51.449
of my favorite. Just swanging and dangling. One

00:43:51.449 --> 00:43:54.210
of the best jokes I ever came up with off the

00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:56.570
cuff, and it didn't get any attention, which

00:43:56.570 --> 00:43:58.380
pissed me off. It was on. Back when I was on

00:43:58.380 --> 00:44:01.079
Facebook, a friend of mine from high school said,

00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.659
we just like asked, like, why is there no female

00:44:03.659 --> 00:44:05.599
equivalent of trunk nuts? And in her comments,

00:44:05.659 --> 00:44:08.960
I just wrote camel toe. And nobody laughed at

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.719
it. Did you spell it T .O .W.? Yeah. Good. No

00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.559
one laughed. Fuck them. Well, Facebook is full

00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.559
of losers. That's true. This was in Facebook

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:24.579
was cool. Fuck you, Facebook. The end. Bye. Bye.

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:37.880
moved on to reddit bye bye i have two questions

00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.000
for you peter yeah first question how many buzz

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.679
balls to get you a tattoo second question think

00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:45.440
about it how many buzz balls to get you a tattoo

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.659
of freeman's mustache holy shit Just get a tattoo

00:44:49.659 --> 00:44:52.460
of a mustache under your mustache. That's smart.

00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.860
Anytime I shave it off, I still am mustached.

00:44:54.860 --> 00:44:57.179
Yeah, you're still safe. That's a good idea.

00:44:57.420 --> 00:44:59.900
I was thinking on your butt, but whatever. Buttstache?

00:44:59.900 --> 00:45:03.780
Just put it wherever. It's a fine mustache. I

00:45:03.780 --> 00:45:06.960
think I would have to have two biggies. Three

00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.840
full leaders? Three full leaders. Now, they wouldn't

00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.079
legally be allowed to give you one. One of our

00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.659
friends probably can do a tattoo. Yeah.
