WEBVTT 00:00:01.660 --> 00:00:23.500 Oh, God. Oh, my God. So what's your favorite 00:00:23.500 --> 00:00:28.149 water sport? that's conducted in russian hotel 00:00:28.149 --> 00:00:32.770 rooms does the do they involve water beds no 00:00:32.770 --> 00:00:35.789 typically no there is some water on a bed usually 00:00:35.789 --> 00:00:43.229 yeah it's pee stuff yeah oh no oh god i drank 00:00:43.229 --> 00:00:45.090 a soda before i came over here so i'm gonna be 00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:47.469 fucking it's a terrible idea yeah why'd you do 00:00:47.469 --> 00:00:50.250 that i took a nap and then i was like i'm tired 00:00:50.250 --> 00:00:52.649 so i needed like a little energy but i didn't 00:00:52.649 --> 00:00:54.890 want to drink coffee yet well also because it's 00:00:54.890 --> 00:00:58.799 fucking hot and so i had like half a soda i was 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:00.899 like soda's gross and then i threw it away in 00:01:00.899 --> 00:01:03.460 your garbage oh good yeah yeah thanks well technically 00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:06.060 you're recycling i mean i appreciate that rachel 00:01:06.060 --> 00:01:07.359 would get mad at me if it was in the garbage 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.319 can so she would blame me too yeah why are you 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.200 drinking coca -cola god on a hot day it's not 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.939 even the true sugar cane stuff god nope it was 00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:21.379 not it was just full -on gross ass normal soda 00:01:21.379 --> 00:01:24.939 corn syrup soda what's the temperature corny 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:29.379 up there it's like 90 ish yeah yeah so it's about 00:01:29.379 --> 00:01:31.459 the same here yeah well i mean you're not that 00:01:31.459 --> 00:01:34.579 far far away well portland is actually usually 00:01:34.579 --> 00:01:37.640 a good five to ten over us especially on the 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:40.219 hot yeah yeah all right that's fair something 00:01:40.219 --> 00:01:44.079 about marine layers closer to hell speaking of 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.379 hell our brows what Oh, the head coach for Baylor 00:01:48.379 --> 00:01:52.480 that helped with sexual assaults. Yeah, that 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:54.079 guy. Fuck yeah, this is a good conversation. 00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:58.299 What was his favorite water sport? It was probably 00:01:58.299 --> 00:02:03.120 water rafting. I quit. Oh, gross. That's where 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:08.659 you just fill a big water raft with piss. Did 00:02:08.659 --> 00:02:11.039 any of you guys ever know somebody to put pee 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:14.020 in a super soaker? No, I never knew anyone who 00:02:14.020 --> 00:02:15.840 actually did the pee in the super soaker. Do 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.759 I know one now? No, everybody wants to. Like, 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.000 peeing in the super soaker sounds like the greatest 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.379 thing in the world. Right. But you never get 00:02:25.379 --> 00:02:29.180 that back. That's always the pee super soaker, 00:02:29.180 --> 00:02:31.960 no matter how many times you boil it. Oh, yeah, 00:02:32.020 --> 00:02:33.379 that's fair. People are boiling their super soaker? 00:02:33.819 --> 00:02:36.460 No, there's always pee in the super soaker after 00:02:36.460 --> 00:02:38.949 you put it in. I mean, so there's never and it's 00:02:38.949 --> 00:02:42.050 never known as anything else. That's fine. I 00:02:42.050 --> 00:02:43.969 mean, especially when like when you're of the 00:02:43.969 --> 00:02:47.069 age where you have a super soaker, you didn't 00:02:47.069 --> 00:02:48.710 buy that and you know you're not getting another 00:02:48.710 --> 00:02:51.479 one if you ruin it. That's a good point. mom 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.060 is definitely not giving you a new one that you 00:02:53.060 --> 00:02:55.520 filled with piss you know it's like hey guess 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.419 what sean you get to keep that one forever enjoy 00:02:58.419 --> 00:03:00.520 your piss soaker whatever i'd be piss soaking 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.860 everything then i'd be like okay mom this is 00:03:02.860 --> 00:03:04.819 what we're doing now mr mcdonough wet himself 00:03:04.819 --> 00:03:11.340 do this is super soaker still a brand i mean 00:03:11.340 --> 00:03:15.699 the need for water guns hasn't gone away Did 00:03:15.699 --> 00:03:18.139 you guys ever have the backpack one? Oh, yeah. 00:03:18.379 --> 00:03:19.979 No, actually, I didn't have it, but a friend 00:03:19.979 --> 00:03:23.039 did. Yeah, it's always a friend. It's always 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.060 the rich friend, too. It's always the one that 00:03:25.060 --> 00:03:27.979 has the mansion on the hill. That's, I guess, 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.400 for the Eastern Washingtonian here, literally 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.520 the friend that had an airstrip in his backyard. 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.900 Like, yeah, that guy. Yeah. Of course that dude 00:03:36.900 --> 00:03:39.000 has the backpack. I didn't associate with any 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.199 people like that. My rich friend just had like 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.699 a bigger house than I did. Yeah. He just got 00:03:45.699 --> 00:03:47.919 to watch TV in the hours that I didn't get to 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:49.479 watch TV. I was like, oh man, his life is so 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:51.879 rich. He didn't have a private fucking jet. He 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.360 didn't have a pool in a Cessna's backyard. No. 00:03:55.210 --> 00:03:57.289 No, no, he still drank from the hose, but he 00:03:57.289 --> 00:03:59.789 had the super soaker that had the backpack attachment. 00:04:00.169 --> 00:04:04.409 A backpack full of piss. Yeah. How long do you 00:04:04.409 --> 00:04:06.729 think it would take to fill that backpack? Well, 00:04:06.810 --> 00:04:08.629 if we all pool our resources, I think we could 00:04:08.629 --> 00:04:10.930 do a pretty good job. Yeah, I mean, you've got 00:04:10.930 --> 00:04:13.129 the whole hose there. So you just put the hose 00:04:13.129 --> 00:04:15.830 in your mouth. Oh, yeah. You just let it cycle 00:04:15.830 --> 00:04:18.750 through. That's true. And eat asparagus at the 00:04:18.750 --> 00:04:23.779 same time. So obviously, we're talking about 00:04:23.779 --> 00:04:26.959 The Boy in Blue. Which is a movie with Nicolas 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:32.019 Cage. And zero piss. Zero piss. Honestly, I expected 00:04:32.019 --> 00:04:35.720 more of that. Yeah, I mean, if you're already 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.759 out on the water, I'm surprised we didn't see 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:40.420 more of those guys just wanging one off the side 00:04:40.420 --> 00:04:43.699 of their little boat and just having a piss mid 00:04:43.699 --> 00:04:46.540 -row. It's very unrealistic if there's somebody 00:04:46.540 --> 00:04:48.220 not pissing off their boat at some point during 00:04:48.220 --> 00:04:51.259 the film. Yeah. i think he just ran into other 00:04:51.259 --> 00:04:53.300 people's boats for a reason to jump in the water 00:04:53.300 --> 00:04:56.519 and then take a leak very valid take i never 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.379 thought because it was the 1800s so like propriety 00:04:59.379 --> 00:05:05.819 dumb yeah he did wear cool like uh dude capris 00:05:05.819 --> 00:05:09.259 he definitely wore the old school henleys that 00:05:09.259 --> 00:05:11.800 are i don't get why that's still a thing but 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.819 that's definitely still a rowing thing wait explain 00:05:14.819 --> 00:05:19.620 so like uh the henley is a regatta over in england 00:05:19.620 --> 00:05:22.379 still um one of the places that they actually 00:05:22.379 --> 00:05:24.480 still they're that they actually showed it on 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:28.779 the tips but yeah they legitimately have these 00:05:28.779 --> 00:05:30.899 really stupid shirts that have like a little 00:05:30.899 --> 00:05:33.439 instead of like the buttons right there it's 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.100 like a little thin piece of fabric right down 00:05:36.100 --> 00:05:38.779 the center like where the buttons would be for 00:05:38.779 --> 00:05:42.040 like your normal polo and it's like yeah no that's 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.660 a apparently that's a henley shirt that they 00:05:44.660 --> 00:05:47.019 can wear while they're rowing it's very stupid 00:05:47.019 --> 00:05:50.920 but also very british seems to work yeah i mean 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.160 fucking he could row yeah every i said everybody 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.279 wearing one of those in this movie fucking road 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:01.139 yeah well the crazy bit is i mean shoot we can 00:06:01.139 --> 00:06:03.860 go into all the rowing stuff here in a bit but 00:06:03.860 --> 00:06:08.480 oh yeah we're going deep on the road Most of 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:12.620 my notes are on all of the rowing stuff. For 00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:14.459 anyone who doesn't know Hayden, he is a slut 00:06:14.459 --> 00:06:18.480 for sports. What? And a real coxswain, like a 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.120 professional coxswain. And the coxswain is the 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.120 guy who sits in the boat and tells other boys 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.639 how to stroke the boat. You're welcome. Yeah. 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.079 yeah you're good at telling never mind both boys 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.160 had a both boys had a stroke keep it short boys 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:36.139 so in all honesty i only i only i wrote in college 00:06:36.139 --> 00:06:39.800 i wrote in college but like yeah we were only 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.060 in the fours and the eights for for rowing side 00:06:43.060 --> 00:06:46.079 of things so the sing is that how many boys yeah 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:50.519 okay so the singles was always there was no person 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.459 in there although back in the day apparently 00:06:52.459 --> 00:06:55.209 like i was looking through some old records And 00:06:55.209 --> 00:06:57.990 they had a coxed pair, which was literally just 00:06:57.990 --> 00:07:00.370 two people in a boat with somebody steering the 00:07:00.370 --> 00:07:06.129 boat, which is so bad. So bad. That's where you 00:07:06.129 --> 00:07:08.029 just propel yourself somehow by jerking each 00:07:08.029 --> 00:07:11.850 other off. Yeah, it's like one of those old -timey 00:07:11.850 --> 00:07:15.889 railroad carts. The pull carts. Yeah. But it's 00:07:15.889 --> 00:07:17.689 like, as you row, you're just jerking your buddy 00:07:17.689 --> 00:07:19.589 off. Yeah, I mean, everybody wins. It would be 00:07:19.589 --> 00:07:23.069 very impressive just to have the dexterity. They 00:07:23.069 --> 00:07:24.769 would have to be, like, monkey -deep goofy to 00:07:24.769 --> 00:07:26.930 be able to reach around and just have the bubblegum 00:07:26.930 --> 00:07:29.930 arms. Uh -huh. I don't get that reference. Oh, 00:07:29.949 --> 00:07:32.649 my God. Oh, you're not inert enough for that? 00:07:32.810 --> 00:07:37.519 Sean only deals in sports, Hayden. Yeah. Welcome 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:39.300 back to Cage Magical and Around a Bow Wave meeting 00:07:39.300 --> 00:07:42.079 Nicholas Cage. I am regretting all of my life 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.839 decisions. My name is Sean. I'm here with my 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:48.019 co -host, Nick, and our producer, Peter. Hello. 00:07:48.540 --> 00:07:50.439 And you've already met Hayden. We don't need 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.399 to introduce him again. I already know Hayden's 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.180 favorite water sports, so it's OK. And as Peter 00:07:58.180 --> 00:07:59.879 alluded to earlier, we're discussing the boy 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:02.079 in blue. What made you think you wanted to get 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:04.439 in a boat with other dudes and just be the guy 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.769 who yells? uh if you want me to be truthfully 00:08:07.769 --> 00:08:09.670 honest about this and not joking about it it 00:08:09.670 --> 00:08:12.110 was literally i would we're an honesty podcast 00:08:12.110 --> 00:08:16.029 so yeah very honesty podcast i was i was on a 00:08:16.029 --> 00:08:20.050 european trip right between uh my uh it was basically 00:08:20.050 --> 00:08:23.069 my graduation gift and there was a guy that wrote 00:08:23.069 --> 00:08:25.290 in in high school that was on the trip and he 00:08:25.290 --> 00:08:27.449 was like you'd be really good at yelling at people 00:08:27.449 --> 00:08:31.680 so That's the weirdest take. I would never pick 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.559 that for you. You're like the nicest motherfucker. 00:08:36.059 --> 00:08:38.080 And so I was light enough to do it. I think I 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.320 get to read through the lines here. What he was 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:45.200 telling you is you never shut the fuck up. Yeah, 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.200 you're small and you don't shut up. These are 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.440 good traits. Don't worry. They're better now 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.299 that I'm in Portland. Okay, so some foreigner 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:56.159 told you to yell at people in boats and you were 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.639 like, you know what? I could do that. And so. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.200 I started, I had no experience going into college 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:05.100 and won a national title my first year. And then 00:09:05.100 --> 00:09:07.620 from there, just kind of fell in love with yelling 00:09:07.620 --> 00:09:10.299 at people in the back of the boat while not knowing 00:09:10.299 --> 00:09:13.059 completely how to row. Which, if you're somebody 00:09:13.059 --> 00:09:15.100 in rowing, that's about right. You won a national 00:09:15.100 --> 00:09:17.580 title or the people rowing the boat won a national 00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:19.379 title? We all won a national title. Yeah, they 00:09:19.379 --> 00:09:20.639 couldn't have done it without him. It is a we. 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:26.100 It is a we. He was a we. You didn't we. Nobody 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:29.519 we's. We established there's no we -ing in rowing. 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.019 I have to say for this movie, the cover of this, 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.740 the cover I've seen and the photo of Nick Cage 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:38.779 I've seen specifically for this movie, not what 00:09:38.779 --> 00:09:40.480 I was expecting this movie to be. I was expecting 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.480 a rough tumbling street fighting man. He kind 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.320 of was. Yeah. Yeah. They just kind of. I'm looking 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:49.139 at this jacked picture of Nicolas Cage with a 00:09:49.139 --> 00:09:52.820 headband with a bandana all like sweated up. 00:09:52.820 --> 00:09:54.620 And I'm like, he's going to go kick some ass 00:09:54.620 --> 00:09:57.899 down by the docks. Oh, no. See, you're still 00:09:57.899 --> 00:10:01.919 stuck up on. rumble fish rumble fish like we 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.340 want everything to be a fish yeah i love rumble 00:10:04.340 --> 00:10:06.179 fish i mean he did look like he was supposed 00:10:06.179 --> 00:10:09.759 to be an extra in mulan but still he is jacked 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.720 as fuck this is probably the strongest cage has 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.500 ever looked right definitely the like cleanest 00:10:14.500 --> 00:10:17.039 like leanest muscle and literally just based 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.679 off of the rowing footage it looked like he was 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:21.299 the person actually rowing in a lot i think he 00:10:21.299 --> 00:10:23.059 was i mean he doesn't really fuck around like 00:10:23.059 --> 00:10:26.320 i think now that he's like older and fatter i 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.759 think he doesn't do a lot of the stunts as much 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.639 or they cater the stunts a little bit down yeah 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:34.919 for sure oh i do want to say a nice uh through 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.759 line in his career still banging with pants on 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.259 yeah yeah that's the only way to fuck especially 00:10:41.259 --> 00:10:44.340 while cops are knocking on the door apparently 00:10:44.340 --> 00:10:48.139 he's always ready for a gunfight He never disrobes 00:10:48.139 --> 00:10:51.940 before. Was that the worst sex scene we've seen 00:10:51.940 --> 00:10:56.960 of him? Vampire's kiss. Total lack of passion. 00:10:58.620 --> 00:11:00.539 Even with the yogurt. There was passion with 00:11:00.539 --> 00:11:03.139 this one, at least. Yeah, it seemed like he was 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:06.720 trying to have a good time with Dulcy. i do like 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.399 her oh face at the end yeah i don't know i still 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.340 think uh drive angry has some pretty passionless 00:11:13.340 --> 00:11:16.740 sex like he's got the sunglasses on and everything 00:11:16.740 --> 00:11:18.940 that was like the style it's like crank style 00:11:18.940 --> 00:11:21.440 where he just has to keep going you know if i 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.100 don't fuck or drink i've got to go back to hell 00:11:24.100 --> 00:11:27.240 i guess yeah you got to keep sinning to stay 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.399 out of hell that's right that's right so hayden 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.159 why don't you tell us what like the plot of this 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:36.250 film was uh so the plot of the film dude dude 00:11:36.250 --> 00:11:39.409 doesn't want to go row uh literally my entire 00:11:39.409 --> 00:11:42.970 favorite quote in the movie is at the very or 00:11:42.970 --> 00:11:44.909 is close to the very beginning and one of his 00:11:44.909 --> 00:11:49.029 very first lines rowing in the hot sun too much 00:11:49.029 --> 00:11:54.929 like work legitimately that's the or so it goes 00:11:54.929 --> 00:11:57.750 from there to a guy that actually turns out to 00:11:57.750 --> 00:11:59.830 be one of the best rowing champions of all time 00:11:59.830 --> 00:12:02.070 if you go by the amount of consecutive races 00:12:02.070 --> 00:12:04.500 and all that Had you ever heard of Hanlon? No. 00:12:04.580 --> 00:12:07.320 Yeah, I didn't either. What? He's early 18. A 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.700 professional coxswain like yourself had never 00:12:09.700 --> 00:12:13.320 heard of Ned Hanlon? 1800s, man. Canadian rower 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:17.480 from 1878? World champion Ned Hanlon with 200 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:21.279 consecutive wins? I got to be honest, anybody 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:26.419 before 1900, I have not heard of, and I'm okay 00:12:26.419 --> 00:12:28.860 with saying that. Who's your favorite rower? 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:32.830 Rower? Yeah. Okay, well, hold on. Who's your 00:12:32.830 --> 00:12:34.850 favorite coxswain? Let's start there. Oh, my 00:12:34.850 --> 00:12:40.409 God. Man, there's a few coxswain tapes I used 00:12:40.409 --> 00:12:42.370 to actually listen to back in the day, but I 00:12:42.370 --> 00:12:46.269 totally don't know their name because I would 00:12:46.269 --> 00:12:48.529 have actually written them down and everything, 00:12:48.610 --> 00:12:51.009 but no, I didn't. I generally don't learn their 00:12:51.009 --> 00:12:53.169 names either. It's just all about getting what 00:12:53.169 --> 00:12:56.250 I want and then... closing the tab what is a 00:12:56.250 --> 00:12:59.870 coxswain tape is it just men yelling grown men 00:12:59.870 --> 00:13:02.549 yelling the word row over and over again so essentially 00:13:02.549 --> 00:13:06.309 like as it's just like any other thing like for 00:13:06.309 --> 00:13:07.889 you guys you know how you guys record yourselves 00:13:07.889 --> 00:13:09.909 and you make you actually listen back to the 00:13:09.909 --> 00:13:12.230 episode sometimes at least i hope sometimes you 00:13:12.230 --> 00:13:14.769 do yeah that's actually probably saying with 00:13:14.769 --> 00:13:18.970 a voice like this no but uh we used to i used 00:13:18.970 --> 00:13:22.980 to listen back to other people's uh especially 00:13:22.980 --> 00:13:26.000 like from the Olympics and some of the world 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.200 trials, I would listen to some of their, to some 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.340 of their cadences and try to pick up on some 00:13:31.340 --> 00:13:33.120 of the calls that they would, or that some of 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.240 these people that were a lot better than me would 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.460 make. Oh, okay. Just to see if I, if it would 00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:41.240 work for practices and things. So you're not 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:45.840 just on the back, just screaming now, now. now 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.059 now now now that's all it was it was just seems 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:54.179 easy yeah it's it's essentially now essentially 00:13:54.179 --> 00:13:56.340 you're just trying to make like the coxswain 00:13:56.340 --> 00:13:58.720 which is not in this movie at all whatsoever 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.820 it literally essentially there we're just trying 00:14:02.820 --> 00:14:04.580 to help make sure that we stay on a race plan 00:14:04.580 --> 00:14:07.000 to make sure and try to make sure that we try 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.110 to win the race as best as possible Isn't that 00:14:09.110 --> 00:14:11.190 literally everyone's job on the team, though, 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:13.830 except they actually do something? Yes, but they're 00:14:13.830 --> 00:14:16.070 tired, so they don't want to make strategic calls, 00:14:16.169 --> 00:14:18.470 but I do. Yeah, the coxswain is the only one 00:14:18.470 --> 00:14:20.389 who gets to see where you're going, right? Yeah, 00:14:20.429 --> 00:14:22.190 because everybody's turned backwards and they 00:14:22.190 --> 00:14:23.330 can't see what's in front of them. That makes 00:14:23.330 --> 00:14:26.230 sense. Yeah, right. So there is some benefit. 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:30.190 Which is why they keep on making the insult of, 00:14:30.309 --> 00:14:32.850 I'm going to piss down your back, which is such 00:14:32.850 --> 00:14:35.110 a weird one. Now we're back to piss again. Yeah, 00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:38.899 yeah, yeah, yeah. um so if you had to tell the 00:14:38.899 --> 00:14:42.940 boat to move like turn 15 degrees starboard how 00:14:42.940 --> 00:14:45.440 would you do that i would just do it i have the 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.279 rudder i can just use the rudder and oh that's 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.779 cheap you gotta or the more fun way to do it 00:14:52.779 --> 00:14:55.080 like if there's a massive degree that you have 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.399 to move and you can't uh do it just do it the 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.259 rudder there's at points there would be people 00:15:01.259 --> 00:15:03.399 that would actually stick their hand into the 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.399 water off the side of the shell and that would 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:08.799 give you more drag yeah and so it would actually 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.139 it would basically basically drift it's like 00:15:12.139 --> 00:15:15.779 an ebay it's a massive drift that's sick i actually 00:15:15.779 --> 00:15:17.480 pulled that off in a couple races once and i 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.019 felt like such a badass oh yeah you fucking tokyo 00:15:20.019 --> 00:15:22.860 drifted the boat it was great nice i'm really 00:15:22.860 --> 00:15:26.519 excited about that did you ever use any accents 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:32.299 or do any like voice work i tried and they made 00:15:32.299 --> 00:15:38.759 fun of me so much what did you do so so it wasn't 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.679 it wasn't scottish or south african it would 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.559 be it was always english because our uh our coach 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.139 at the time that when i first started he was 00:15:48.139 --> 00:15:51.399 english he literally wrote for cambridge so i 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:55.240 tried to to mimic his voice or i would uh mimic 00:15:55.240 --> 00:16:00.240 our uh our uh head coach's voice because he he 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.240 had a just an iconic for for us at washington 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.960 state at the time he had a really iconic just 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:12.399 cadence just like ha all righty gentlemen let's 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:17.519 go so it was always fun i didn't even have to 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.379 ask you to do that yeah that was great so did 00:16:20.379 --> 00:16:28.159 you first and then all right so ned hanlon uh 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.340 -huh i really enjoyed reading about this dude 00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:32.220 because i was like what the fuck this is a weird 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.279 character and cage doesn't play like a he doesn't 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.259 do a great job this is not his finest acting 00:16:36.259 --> 00:16:40.059 you know he's very like nonchalant american in 00:16:40.059 --> 00:16:43.200 as a canadian hero but i was reading about him 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.690 i think he says a once yeah So, all right, Hanlon, 00:16:46.750 --> 00:16:50.350 who was only 5 '8", weighed a mere 150 pounds, 00:16:50.509 --> 00:16:52.590 yet his powerful stroke enabled him to beat larger, 00:16:52.690 --> 00:16:54.970 stronger men. While he rarely rode at more than 00:16:54.970 --> 00:16:56.789 30 strokes per minute compared to as many as 00:16:56.789 --> 00:16:58.809 42 for his rivals, he usually led from the start, 00:16:58.909 --> 00:17:01.389 often toying with opponents. During his championship 00:17:01.389 --> 00:17:04.170 race against Morris, he slowed down, twice stopped 00:17:04.170 --> 00:17:06.109 altogether to enable the American to make a race 00:17:06.109 --> 00:17:08.740 of it, and he still won by three lengths. He 00:17:08.740 --> 00:17:12.059 competed with icy calm and mastered psyching 00:17:12.059 --> 00:17:14.519 out opponents with timely taunts. He had no qualms 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.039 about humiliating those who he disliked. While 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.680 racing the arrogant tricket, he chatted with 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.920 spectators, blew them kisses, stopped and waited, 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.720 faked a collapse, rode in zigzags while the Australian 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.160 labored in his wake. And on one occasion, Hanlon 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.579 crossed the line so far in front that he leisurely 00:17:28.579 --> 00:17:30.220 rode back to his opponent and then beat them 00:17:30.220 --> 00:17:32.880 again. So essentially, you know what that means? 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.380 Especially during this time. You know what that 00:17:36.380 --> 00:17:39.519 sounds like? What does it sound like? It sounds 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.220 like an interesting movie. It was all of that 00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:46.000 shit. I know. I mean, I wish they had done a 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.740 little more of that kind of stuff. That was half 00:17:47.740 --> 00:17:50.859 of my notes, by the way, was just how much of 00:17:50.859 --> 00:17:53.839 a thing that they tried to make this up. But 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:58.660 now knowing that bit more so than it makes a 00:17:58.660 --> 00:18:02.200 lot more sense. But I will say this. It sounds 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.460 like everybody of the time period didn't know 00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:09.059 how to use their legs. that is exactly like as 00:18:09.059 --> 00:18:11.680 somebody trying to analyze this because the entire 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.440 thing was he was the first person to use a slidey 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.000 seat yeah instead of a greasy butt instead of 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:20.200 a greasy butt on a literally just a board a board 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.740 but literally bum boys oh greasy bum boys but 00:18:23.740 --> 00:18:26.750 literally The entire rest of the field didn't 00:18:26.750 --> 00:18:28.230 know how to use their legs in the rowing stroke, 00:18:28.390 --> 00:18:31.210 which is where 80 % of your power comes from 00:18:31.210 --> 00:18:34.990 if you listen to any rowing coach. So literally, 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:37.430 they're not using 80 % of their power source. 00:18:37.690 --> 00:18:40.930 If you didn't use your legs, it would be the 00:18:40.930 --> 00:18:43.890 biggest handicap of all time to give somebody. 00:18:44.390 --> 00:18:46.529 So the sliding seat really changed the game. 00:18:47.089 --> 00:18:52.369 100%. It's honestly the biggest outside of... 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.859 moving outside of ores and or literally the carbon 00:18:56.859 --> 00:19:00.720 fiber like rowing shell it's the it's the biggest 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.460 invention to rowing yeah i mean doing this was 00:19:03.460 --> 00:19:09.039 a real bitch just hand paddling your way i'm 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:11.640 sculling i'm sculling i'm sculling what i found 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.880 fascinating about this story was the opening 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.759 like the opening like text crawl that said you 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:24.420 know before baseball and football there was called 00:19:24.420 --> 00:19:27.720 whatever it's called ruined and i all i could 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.099 think was man there really was a sport more boring 00:19:31.099 --> 00:19:37.940 than baseball yeah it's soccer but oh oh 90 minutes 00:19:37.940 --> 00:19:40.400 of dudes running around in a field to get a draw 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.599 and be happy about it fuck off sorry a tie a 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.849 tie but legitimately like back in the day like 00:19:48.849 --> 00:19:53.009 even in seattle and across over to like the east 00:19:53.009 --> 00:19:56.210 coast like rowing was one of if not the biggest 00:19:56.210 --> 00:19:58.650 sport like there were there were crowds back 00:19:58.650 --> 00:20:01.769 in the day that were like 50 plus thousand watching 00:20:01.769 --> 00:20:04.730 rowing races back in the early like 1900s in 00:20:04.730 --> 00:20:06.450 seattle i mean there really wasn't much to do 00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:09.450 there was no booze because of fucking prohibition 00:20:09.450 --> 00:20:14.720 prohibition assholes no tv no But they do say 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:15.680 that they want to shoot you. You're fucking with 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:20.059 your clothes on. Yeah. Did anybody else find 00:20:20.059 --> 00:20:22.960 the cops in this just really freaking weird? 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:25.460 Well, we've always watched Nick Cage movies and 00:20:25.460 --> 00:20:27.720 noted that the cops suck. There's only one cop 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.519 that we've ever counted as good, and it was because 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.319 Nick hated the movie and he killed one of the 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.480 main characters. That's true. I didn't like that 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:36.259 cop. Otherwise, all the cops are bad. They shoot 00:20:36.259 --> 00:20:39.339 so fucking fast. They're just assholes and bumbling 00:20:39.339 --> 00:20:41.619 morons. Typical cops. Typical cops. Yeah, cops 00:20:41.619 --> 00:20:45.079 suck. Fuck the police. I do love at the beginning 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:47.400 of this film when the cops try and like get him 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.180 while he's bootlegging. They like grab the they 00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:53.160 grab the rope to pull him in and like he just 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.279 cuts the rope, hops out of the boat, which is 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:58.480 like six inches deep and like starts running 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:00.119 away. They could have just walked up to the boat 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.339 and grabbed him. Yeah, you would think. Well. 00:21:02.829 --> 00:21:05.069 He was kind of out there. It was just a really 00:21:05.069 --> 00:21:08.309 shallow shore there. But yeah, they could have 00:21:08.309 --> 00:21:10.769 made a run for it instead. But, you know, cop 00:21:10.769 --> 00:21:14.230 boots, maybe. Maybe they don't get paid enough 00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:16.890 to. They didn't want to. They didn't want to 00:21:16.890 --> 00:21:19.190 clean all their nice, clean uniforms, you know, 00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:21.769 or they were rich. I think all the races should 00:21:21.769 --> 00:21:23.630 have been bootlegger races where it's all at 00:21:23.630 --> 00:21:25.329 nighttime and you have a boat full of fucking 00:21:25.329 --> 00:21:27.829 booze. That would have been sick. Outrunning 00:21:27.829 --> 00:21:32.589 the cops? Well, in that first scene where, or 00:21:32.589 --> 00:21:34.549 not first scene, it was when he gets back to 00:21:34.549 --> 00:21:36.769 his house where they're like, you should see 00:21:36.769 --> 00:21:39.509 him when he's running away from the cops. Like 00:21:39.509 --> 00:21:42.880 that would, I wanted to see more of that. More 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.140 of the booze running? Yeah, like where he, I 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:47.180 mean, shoot, in the one scene we do get of him 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:49.619 running from the cops, he literally rose through 00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:53.019 one of their own boats. Yeah. Oh, I do have to 00:21:53.019 --> 00:21:56.000 say, this movie kicks ass. It has boat chases. 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:57.480 It does have boat chases. The whole movie is 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.140 boat chases. It's mostly boat chases, yeah. Yeah. 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.059 And I love boat chases. This movie is like 60 00:22:04.059 --> 00:22:09.099 % boat chase, 40 % montage. Yeah. Very fair. 00:22:09.579 --> 00:22:12.230 Honestly, this movie is... Two separate training 00:22:12.230 --> 00:22:16.789 montages. Yeah, but they don't feel like montages. 00:22:16.789 --> 00:22:21.769 They feel like easygoing montages. Or sabotage 00:22:21.769 --> 00:22:25.950 montages. Was there a sabotage montage? Well, 00:22:25.970 --> 00:22:27.829 maybe not. No, there was just sabotage. Just 00:22:27.829 --> 00:22:31.750 sabotage. Just regular sabotage. Was it two or 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:34.109 three sabotages in this? I got really confused. 00:22:34.309 --> 00:22:36.990 So, okay, they try to poison him at one point. 00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:39.859 Yeah. Oh, yeah. They try to beat the shit out 00:22:39.859 --> 00:22:41.859 of him a couple times. Okay, so there's three. 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:43.740 Some of these are just good -natured fun, though. 00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:47.240 Yeah. Then his buddy Bill tries to sabotage Trickett 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.940 by fucking with his seat, but I was very confused 00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:51.420 while I was watching that because I was like, 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.319 is Bill being an asshole and fucking with Cage's 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.599 seat? That was one that I actually understood 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.839 what was going on there because they were all 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.099 on the same payroll as Dingle McCringleberry. 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:04.740 Yeah, Dingle McCringleberry. Are you talking 00:23:04.740 --> 00:23:08.130 about Knox? Knox. Knox. Also, Christopher Plummer 00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:11.109 as Knox was great. I loved him. Yeah. Amazing 00:23:11.109 --> 00:23:13.490 mustache. Amazing mustache. The real star of 00:23:13.490 --> 00:23:16.569 this movie are the mustaches. Very much so. Knox 00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:18.289 had one of my favorite quotes. I don't know if 00:23:18.289 --> 00:23:21.049 anybody else had that same quote, but. All right. 00:23:21.069 --> 00:23:25.450 So his. So Bill and Knox and Cage are sitting 00:23:25.450 --> 00:23:28.809 around and Knox is trying to convert. cage to 00:23:28.809 --> 00:23:32.369 come be his like his dude and bill says big words 00:23:32.369 --> 00:23:36.289 don't butter the beans colonel oh i'll see to 00:23:36.289 --> 00:23:40.809 it that everyone's beans get buttered it is such 00:23:40.809 --> 00:23:44.670 a good quote yeah that is a good one butter them 00:23:44.670 --> 00:23:48.630 beans uh if we're just doing some light quote 00:23:48.630 --> 00:23:52.170 work right now uh my my quote from this movie 00:23:52.170 --> 00:23:57.470 is boats are life who said that is that walter 00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:01.730 actually nobody said it i just forgot to write 00:24:01.730 --> 00:24:04.029 down a quote and then i went to like look up 00:24:04.029 --> 00:24:05.869 something again on the way and i was like oh 00:24:05.869 --> 00:24:07.869 there's only one quote apparently on the internet 00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:12.809 it's just something from nox so boats are life 00:24:12.809 --> 00:24:16.289 my quote is uh when they're trying to get um 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:19.490 when bill's trying to get a boat for nick cage 00:24:19.490 --> 00:24:23.509 at the beginning of the movie and the guy he 00:24:23.509 --> 00:24:27.039 like had a deal with renegs they meet this kid's 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:28.819 like this kid's like i can get you a boat it's 00:24:28.819 --> 00:24:32.759 like where it's like my quote is cost you a dollar 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:37.980 and one of them cigaroos that was really good 00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:41.019 i love a good street urchin yeah right it's like 00:24:41.019 --> 00:24:44.900 that kid's gonna be dead in two years a dollar 00:24:44.900 --> 00:24:48.299 line made me think of a god what's the movie 00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:50.640 a million ways to die in the west when they bet 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.900 a whole dollar that pulls out a dollar bill Everyone 00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:55.259 takes off their hat. It's like, take off your 00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:58.740 hat, boy. That's a dollar. I never saw that movie. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.339 Yeah, me either. It's actually pretty funny. 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.980 It was right in like the saturation of Seth MacFarlane 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:08.259 for me where I was like, I don't know. Yeah, 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:12.099 I get it. I did also like the fact that Walter, 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.319 as soon as he unveils the boat to these guys, 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:18.259 that he's just so on the defensive. Like, yeah, 00:25:18.299 --> 00:25:21.000 this guy's making fun of me, too. And you think 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.920 I'm queer in the head? Oh, yeah. Everybody thinks 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:28.440 Walter's a kook. That was weird. That was a weird 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.500 term of phrase, too, for that. Like, was that 00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:33.980 queer? Like queer in the head. Is that like for 00:25:33.980 --> 00:25:36.539 the time period? Absolutely. Just strange in 00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:39.240 the head. Just weird. I guess I'd never heard 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:41.660 that term of phrase before watching this one. 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.119 You can still be queer in the head and straight 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.400 in the bed. Where is your curly mustache, sir? 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.140 I know. I should have a sweet ass mustache like 00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:54.349 the colonel. Oh, that's what my nap did. I was 00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:56.869 supposed to go down to the fucking party store 00:25:56.869 --> 00:26:00.789 and buy a mustache today. Oh, fuck. Damn, that's 00:26:00.789 --> 00:26:02.170 disappointing. I don't think I have one in the 00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:05.829 costume box. I'm sorry. I'm looking at this cast 00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:09.230 on IMDb and like half the cast does not have 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:14.650 like photos. Yeah, I mean. This movie was made 00:26:14.650 --> 00:26:18.390 for the CBC. If I remember right. Because it 00:26:18.390 --> 00:26:22.119 was weird that they cast Nick Cage, period. Yeah, 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.920 except that he's, you know, in pretty good shape 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.400 and he's had a couple of movies under his belt 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.299 at this point. He was a bit of a name, but like 00:26:29.299 --> 00:26:31.660 it's weird for him to be a Canadian hero character 00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:34.259 as a non -Canadian, you know, when you could 00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:36.279 have probably found a jacked Canadian actor. 00:26:37.220 --> 00:26:40.460 Probably the people that made this film absolutely 00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:43.539 put a lot of care into the into the rowing side, 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.400 because I've seen a lot of movies when it comes 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.890 to this. and the rowing on it is, I mean, don't 00:26:49.890 --> 00:26:52.109 get me wrong, the rowing's not great in this, 00:26:52.269 --> 00:26:56.230 but it's still better than, even at points. What's 00:26:56.230 --> 00:26:58.869 your favorite rowing movie? At this point, it 00:26:58.869 --> 00:27:01.650 kind of defaults to Boys in the Boat, but like, 00:27:01.690 --> 00:27:04.769 the rowing in that, you could argue that it's 00:27:04.769 --> 00:27:08.210 worse than the stuff in this film. Yeah, what's 00:27:08.210 --> 00:27:10.430 like the field of dreams of rowing movies? So, 00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:12.509 Boys in the Boat, which is a fairly recent film, 00:27:12.630 --> 00:27:16.619 name another rowing movie. I can't because I 00:27:16.619 --> 00:27:20.400 don't know. Because I don't care. This is his 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.960 third starring lead. This is his third starring 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.420 role. So, I mean, it's still pretty new. Valley 00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:28.140 Girl and Birdie. Right. Which, I mean, Birdie's 00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.000 a great movie. Valley Girl is still high on my 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.779 list, but arguably not a great Nick Cage performance. 00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:35.960 Better than this. This is like one of the laziest 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.680 ones, I feel. For his early career, it's pretty 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.400 lazy. Yeah, I feel like he probably just wasn't 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.220 given a whole lot. on this one but he could have 00:27:44.220 --> 00:27:47.259 also been bored the the structure of the movie 00:27:47.259 --> 00:27:49.880 is very much still like valley girl honestly 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.160 he he's a great cast for the character just based 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.319 off of the iron or just looking at the description 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.059 of the guy but we need more showboat oh yeah 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:01.880 i agree especially that that description that 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.519 i read you know it's like if they had played 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.180 that part up where he's like really kind of a 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:09.220 piece of shit yeah just just making the most 00:28:09.220 --> 00:28:12.339 arrogant asshole on the water to the point where 00:28:12.339 --> 00:28:15.119 he does it he just throws a wrench back after 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.000 he after his rigor breaks right like where his 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.480 oar connects to the boat just like just throw 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.220 it back to the dude that swam across and just 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:26.059 tighten it by fingers like that would be funny 00:28:26.059 --> 00:28:28.980 as fuck yeah i mean they definitely put in the 00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:32.680 effort to make this uh a competitive issue like 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.460 yeah we have to show him like struggle and overcome 00:28:35.460 --> 00:28:38.589 almost lose yeah I mean, this is the problem 00:28:38.589 --> 00:28:42.690 with like an actual semi like this is essentially 00:28:42.690 --> 00:28:44.769 a biopic and it's one that wants to just paint 00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:48.690 the guy as like this virtuous, like all around 00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:52.210 likable good guy with no flaws, which makes for 00:28:52.210 --> 00:28:55.569 a very uninteresting character. Oh, look at this 00:28:55.569 --> 00:28:58.569 guy that was a drunk and now he's sober. I mean, 00:28:58.589 --> 00:29:00.289 they did try to play up some of that stuff where 00:29:00.289 --> 00:29:02.569 it's like he's missing a race or, you know, kind 00:29:02.569 --> 00:29:04.410 of fucking up and people are losing their money 00:29:04.410 --> 00:29:06.549 on him and all that kind of shit. Yeah, but. 00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:10.329 When he did get that egregious foul. His whole 00:29:10.329 --> 00:29:13.990 character is, in the beginning, a booze runner. 00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:18.980 Is that second race? I thought was so freaking 00:29:18.980 --> 00:29:21.279 funny and probably even more indicative to the 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.819 time, too. He was like too hungover. He was too 00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:27.920 hungover. So everybody else puts the money on 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.579 him, but they don't want to lose their money. 00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:35.259 So they just throw the race for everyone just 00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:37.700 so they win their money. Yeah, I like the people 00:29:37.700 --> 00:29:39.759 on the shore just like somebody fucking row. 00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:44.160 I crapped my back. I can't row. Yeah, that was 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.930 pretty good. I like that. When he's at the fair 00:29:46.930 --> 00:29:49.950 before like his first race, what was that like 00:29:49.950 --> 00:29:52.789 steam powered like thing playing Camptown races? 00:29:53.669 --> 00:29:55.569 that's that's how much i cared about the plot 00:29:55.569 --> 00:29:57.009 of this film is like i just want to talk about 00:29:57.009 --> 00:29:59.490 like weird background shit well i mean that's 00:29:59.490 --> 00:30:00.970 the thing is there there isn't a crazy amount 00:30:00.970 --> 00:30:02.930 of plot to talk about it's like people are betting 00:30:02.930 --> 00:30:06.250 on him he kind of fails other people buy in and 00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:08.170 believe in him and he comes back and he's a victor 00:30:08.170 --> 00:30:12.509 yay you see one of the earliest ever rowing machines 00:30:12.509 --> 00:30:14.990 of all time which i want to call tortured devices 00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:21.029 because they suck Okay. Pains on the books. Those 00:30:21.029 --> 00:30:23.769 machines are torture. Rowing machines aren't 00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:27.170 cool anymore. 1878, get fucked. Yeah. Now, was 00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:29.630 it just the rope kinds that you didn't like or 00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:32.470 all rowing machines? Honestly, rowing machines 00:30:32.470 --> 00:30:35.650 in general, like as somebody that didn't have 00:30:35.650 --> 00:30:38.250 to hop on them as much. Because you weren't rowing. 00:30:39.789 --> 00:30:43.170 Admittedly so. The only guy on the boat who wasn't 00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:45.569 responsible for rowing. Hayden's rowing machine 00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:47.269 was a microphone that he just had to lean into 00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:51.289 and talk into. Correct, basically. But legitimately, 00:30:51.730 --> 00:30:56.309 they looked... I mean, I've never been a big 00:30:56.309 --> 00:30:58.589 fan of just machines in general that are cardio 00:30:58.589 --> 00:31:02.930 machines. Sure. Like treadmills or any of that. 00:31:02.990 --> 00:31:07.160 But like rowing machines in just general? They 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.579 make you hurt way more than all the rest of them 00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:12.000 besides maybe the Versa machines, which are like 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.000 the mountain climbing ones. But that's about 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.039 it. Like it, they make you hurt way more. And 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.819 when you're doing it right, you hurt the most. 00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:24.279 It's one of those that like you don't get the 00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.960 gratification of going any further. You just 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.960 get bigger numbers on a screen and a louder fan. 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:36.059 Yeah, I do like that loud fan. I was contemplating 00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:38.480 somehow borrowing one of these machines from 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.440 somebody and making you row this entire time. 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.380 Oh, that would suck. I think Bill has one. I 00:31:43.380 --> 00:31:45.640 know. Yeah. Oh, man. He actually has a good one, 00:31:45.660 --> 00:31:47.859 too. I think he has one of those. How would you 00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:50.240 sell the microphone for that? We would have had 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.160 to get some sort of lapel. Yeah. No, you wouldn't. 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.660 You would get me one of the like. Oh, yeah. The 00:31:55.660 --> 00:31:58.000 headsets with the little microphone in front. 00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:03.720 Like the. like the slap chop guy yeah you're 00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.660 gonna love my nuts watch this you're gonna love 00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:09.119 you would have to you would have to be like hi 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.980 it's vince from slap chop i'm gonna make great 00:32:11.980 --> 00:32:14.779 food all day you would have to make it to where 00:32:14.779 --> 00:32:17.960 like you it's like a push to talk so that way 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.980 you wouldn't just hear me breathing the entire 00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.839 time just heavily just you know you hate making 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:29.400 salad Now I got to listen to Slap Chop Remix. 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:36.279 Fucking amazing. I can't wait. Oh, God. Didn't 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.779 that guy get beat up by a prostitute? She bit 00:32:37.779 --> 00:32:42.500 his tongue and like punched him in the face. 00:32:42.500 --> 00:32:45.720 His mugshot is so good. I love that his name 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.859 is Vince Offer and he's a sales dude. That's 00:32:50.859 --> 00:32:54.720 brutal. That is Christian name. That is a government 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.400 name. I think he's Jewish, but it is his government 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:03.759 name. Oh, man. Hi, it's Vince from Slapjob. Gonna 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.440 make great food all day. The skin comes right 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:13.039 off. Jesus Christ. That's amazing. I haven't 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.880 thought about that in so long. Okay, let's say 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.849 something nice about this movie. Well, OK, so 00:33:19.849 --> 00:33:21.390 hang on before we do that, because that's a good 00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:24.410 idea. Let's do let's do something that I think 00:33:24.410 --> 00:33:26.309 is a boring part of this movie. What do you think 00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:29.529 about the relationship storyline arc in the whole 00:33:29.529 --> 00:33:32.150 thing with the lady who looks like Olivia Colman, 00:33:32.190 --> 00:33:35.549 but isn't an afterthought? I mean, again, it's 00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:37.250 just it's a biopic. It just goes by the numbers 00:33:37.250 --> 00:33:41.690 like they meet, they court, they marry the end. 00:33:42.490 --> 00:33:44.289 Yeah, I guess the drama is that she was previously 00:33:44.289 --> 00:33:49.000 engaged. Yeah, I enjoyed that, you know. She 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.779 gets paid basically or like instructed by her 00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:56.500 uncle to lead him on just to like get him in 00:33:56.500 --> 00:34:00.700 their rowing pocket. And then it's like, oh, 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.140 no, I can't. I feel guilty, but there's another 00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:07.660 man. And then it's like, I'm going to not be 00:34:07.660 --> 00:34:10.699 with you. That pisses him off. And that really 00:34:10.699 --> 00:34:14.650 gets him hot. I loved. when he like chases down 00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:18.449 the carriage and he's just like and he like takes 00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:20.110 his shirt off and he's just right there he's 00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:23.730 like fucking look at me no i know what my favorite 00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:28.909 quote was it was when uh cage early on said i 00:34:28.909 --> 00:34:33.130 look bigger without my clothes on oh god that 00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:35.909 was a fucking slap of a line i fucking loved 00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:38.269 it yeah honestly margaret had a few good lines 00:34:38.269 --> 00:34:40.820 too yeah I mean, her character is pretty good. 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.039 The romance is kind of lame. Yeah. Also, I loved 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.980 watching him chase that carriage down, but I 00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:48.179 was watching it at 2x at that point, and it is 00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:51.260 hilarious. A little Benny Hill music. Well, because 00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:53.000 I was just like, oh, shit, he's really cooking. 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.219 I was like, oh, right, right. Double speed. Honestly, 00:34:59.619 --> 00:35:03.059 the what was it when he takes her out on the 00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.030 water for the first time? With the old lady. 00:35:05.030 --> 00:35:08.590 With her aunt there, just on the boat. And she 00:35:08.590 --> 00:35:10.969 just is like, yeah, I give you permission to 00:35:10.969 --> 00:35:13.750 kiss me. Oh, yeah. Do you want to wake up now? 00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:17.889 Yeah. Yeah, she was pretty fun, actually. He 00:35:17.889 --> 00:35:20.389 got his beans buttered for sure. I did. I did 00:35:20.389 --> 00:35:23.030 enjoy his. I did enjoy his friendship with Bill. 00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:25.449 They kind of they had a good thing. And they 00:35:25.449 --> 00:35:27.429 even had a call back to their like, you take 00:35:27.429 --> 00:35:30.130 the two on the right at the end when Bill's getting 00:35:30.130 --> 00:35:33.989 his ass kicked. Yeah. Bill comes around. Yeah, 00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:36.150 the ending being a freeze frame of them about 00:35:36.150 --> 00:35:39.130 to fight some dudes is pretty solid. Yeah, I 00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:41.389 do like you take the two on the left when they're 00:35:41.389 --> 00:35:44.489 only fighting two guys. But that is good imagery. 00:35:44.730 --> 00:35:48.110 Yeah, this is like one of the most 80s films 00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:53.170 that's ever been just. You mean 1880s? I will 00:35:53.170 --> 00:35:55.690 say the soundtrack, like all the songs. fucking 00:35:55.690 --> 00:35:58.530 this oh yeah the synth music was kind of strange 00:35:58.530 --> 00:36:01.409 the all the music and then the title crawl at 00:36:01.409 --> 00:36:04.690 the beginning and the end the jump cuts from 00:36:04.690 --> 00:36:06.889 where there's music being played and then just 00:36:06.889 --> 00:36:09.170 all of a sudden nothing yeah that was kind of 00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:10.809 strange i thought there was like a weird cut 00:36:10.809 --> 00:36:13.070 you know like it just all of a sudden was dead 00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:15.570 is whoa what the fuck you're like how did you 00:36:15.570 --> 00:36:17.909 get here pay attention to this scene now yeah 00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:19.750 immediately forget that music don't worry about 00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:22.510 it he's got a shirt on now yeah don't listen 00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:25.889 to that music first time i watched this film 00:36:25.889 --> 00:36:28.269 i was really bored and kept like oh just the 00:36:28.269 --> 00:36:31.590 first time kind of coming in and out of it i 00:36:31.590 --> 00:36:33.329 paid you know second time when i knew what was 00:36:33.329 --> 00:36:35.070 going on i noticed a few more things but i kept 00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:37.309 like getting in and out and easily distracted 00:36:37.309 --> 00:36:40.010 yeah every time i'd like look back at the screen 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:42.469 and like being a complete completely different 00:36:42.469 --> 00:36:46.150 place i'm like what did i miss i rewound a few 00:36:46.150 --> 00:36:48.630 times like no it's just that's just a weird cut 00:36:48.630 --> 00:36:51.829 yeah the editing in this movie wasn't terrific 00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:55.159 um you know there's there's technical aspects 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.219 of this movie that we're just kind of but did 00:36:59.219 --> 00:37:02.039 you guys see what the box office was on it no 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.079 i didn't oh is it in canadian money so yeah it's 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.159 both yeah so what do you think the budget of 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:14.139 this was canadian dollars 1989 1989 18 million 00:37:14.139 --> 00:37:18.099 canadians far less i would have gone i probably 00:37:18.099 --> 00:37:21.989 would have gone i would have gone 10 $10 million? 00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:26.110 Less. $4 million, Canadians. Yeah, $7 .7 million 00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:29.369 was the budget for this movie. And then what 00:37:29.369 --> 00:37:32.789 do you think it made box office? $2 million. 00:37:33.869 --> 00:37:36.469 It has a two in it. It's not that big, though. 00:37:36.849 --> 00:37:43.170 Oh, no! Was it $200 ,000? $275 ,000. No! Oh, 00:37:43.789 --> 00:37:47.590 wow. Nice. That's so bad. That's pretty rough. 00:37:47.789 --> 00:37:52.019 But also, let's be real. the it's a story of 00:37:52.019 --> 00:37:55.340 the first guy to have a slidey seat yeah that's 00:37:55.340 --> 00:37:57.940 that's the first not grease bum boy he was the 00:37:57.940 --> 00:38:01.559 first guy to not put grease on his butt which 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.199 honestly the scene of everybody everybody putting 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.940 up yes exactly everybody getting lubed up in 00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.360 uh freaking philly and just laughing and having 00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.679 a good time at it oh yeah they're like oh that 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.599 guy's not greasing his butt what a chump so what 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.639 you're saying is he was the first First person 00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.320 to raw dog it. Yeah, he is the first person to 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.719 raw dog it. You're right. Nick Cage never wraps 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.699 it. Never does. But speaking of all the races 00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:31.380 and stuff, I was looking through... We're jumping 00:38:31.380 --> 00:38:34.699 right into the racism, right? Obviously. I want 00:38:34.699 --> 00:38:36.980 to tell you about all the races. All into the 00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:41.840 races. That was some of my very first notes on 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:45.909 this. The opening scene. on there oh and they're 00:38:45.909 --> 00:38:48.090 like paddle boats yeah when they're literally 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:51.469 in the big tanker like rowboats and stuff uh 00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:54.389 very much so they're very much in dinghies the 00:38:54.389 --> 00:38:57.250 guy that was leading the race looked like he 00:38:57.250 --> 00:39:00.329 was rowing the freaking slowest he was the slowest 00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:02.769 freaking boat in there you look at like the strokes 00:39:02.769 --> 00:39:05.550 that he's making there they're the shortest of 00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:09.139 the strokes And he is rowing like it's like the 00:39:09.139 --> 00:39:11.000 slowest. You go with what you know, man. He is 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.400 like the slowest stroke rate and the smallest 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.039 stroke. And it's just like, how the hell are 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.059 you in front of all these other guys that look 00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:20.619 like they're rowing halfway competently? And 00:39:20.619 --> 00:39:25.079 it's just like, what the actual hell am I watching? 00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:28.619 Oh, man. For that first race. Although it was 00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:32.360 really funny seeing him throw literally cages. 00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:35.989 or side oh yeah yeah i know i love that bill 00:39:35.989 --> 00:39:39.170 just being like yep i'm just gonna take my or 00:39:39.170 --> 00:39:43.429 just yeah i was testing you i do i do like how 00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:45.690 yeah bill and him race the beginning and bill 00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:47.849 cheats and then the next scene when they are 00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:50.349 introduced bill's like opening gambit he's like 00:39:50.349 --> 00:39:53.630 i saw you in the race today bill fucks we can 00:39:53.630 --> 00:39:56.369 tell you know what i'm looking forward to most 00:39:56.369 --> 00:39:59.150 about this episode whatever what you're gonna 00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:01.550 do with all of those clean cuts of hayden talking 00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:04.440 about stroking it's just gonna be a super cut 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.079 we're actually gonna cut us out it's just gonna 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.760 be hayden yeah actually nick and i have been 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.579 muted this entire time yeah it's gonna be the 00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:15.320 new slap shot remix hi it's hayden with stroking 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:22.260 you're gonna love my skin all day short strokes 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:29.219 watch this you're gonna love my nuts holy shit 00:40:29.219 --> 00:40:31.059 we gotta watch that immediately oh absolutely 00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:34.199 I don't know if I like this movie. I think I 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.119 don't. I get it. I think it was a little too 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:43.519 biopic 80s for me, but like I didn't hate it. 00:40:44.059 --> 00:40:47.980 I thought it was better than what the Rotten 00:40:47.980 --> 00:40:51.179 Tomatoes was in terms of just percentage. I didn't 00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:53.360 even look at what it was. It was like a 50 something. 00:40:53.579 --> 00:40:56.420 It was like a 54. That's not bad. Yeah, I'd put 00:40:56.420 --> 00:41:00.519 it about about a 54, 56. Like I was expecting 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.780 to. just absolutely hate the majority of this 00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:06.980 and it was like you know what not nearly as bad 00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:10.159 yeah and well and ultimately that's my problem 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.760 with the film is it's not good but it's not bad 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.840 enough where it's entertaining it's very mid 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.900 and that's the worst thing a film can do for 00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:20.079 me that's fair yeah i mean if something's a real 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:21.880 stinker it's easy to then like dunk on it and 00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.719 have fun with that if something's really great 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.380 obviously you know you cheers it on but when 00:41:26.380 --> 00:41:29.559 something is just like it's good enough for what 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.179 i needed of it yeah i watched an hour and 40 00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:36.380 minutes of that also okay so for the final race 00:41:36.380 --> 00:41:38.920 did you guys think any of that was weird at all 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:43.280 in the final that final race against uh tell 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.059 me about the stroke what was wrong with the stroke 00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:49.260 yeah okay so like so short or long was it weak 00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:53.119 so the entire time for me looking at this because 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.530 believe it or not the actor for a trick it the 00:41:56.530 --> 00:42:01.030 Aussie guy, he actually has a fairly solid, he 00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:04.489 actually rode fairly competent. He actually gets 00:42:04.489 --> 00:42:06.929 to full slide, which means he actually takes 00:42:06.929 --> 00:42:09.670 a full stroke. Hi, it's Vince with Slap Chop. 00:42:11.489 --> 00:42:14.510 He takes a full stroke. He actually looks like 00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:18.250 he knows what he's doing. He rose halfway clumsily, 00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:21.130 but hey, he actually knows, he actually does 00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:26.460 one. Cage, on the other hand, on this. He only 00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:29.199 gets to like half slide. He only ever takes like 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.019 half a stroke. Do you think he's too tall for 00:42:32.019 --> 00:42:35.239 the boat provided for him? Oh, no. That it literally 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.159 is just he got too uncomfortable and you can 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.179 kind of tell with the way he's coming forward 00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:42.480 and everything. Like that's one of those things 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.780 that it's it's I guess those little things where 00:42:44.780 --> 00:42:47.079 it's like, come on, man. I know you're racing 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.699 this guy. Just just just cut the footage to where 00:42:50.699 --> 00:42:53.949 like he actually takes a full stroke. during 00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:56.349 those pieces and just keep re -showing that stroke 00:42:56.349 --> 00:42:59.809 one stroke i don't care i don't care they cut 00:42:59.809 --> 00:43:04.329 it well like come on like these guys these the 00:43:04.329 --> 00:43:06.449 way that they cut this movie in terms of the 00:43:06.449 --> 00:43:10.829 rowing side otherwise i mean yes they the margins 00:43:10.829 --> 00:43:14.530 on this for like the the fact that cage was literally 00:43:14.530 --> 00:43:18.050 down like what looked like over like 500 meters 00:43:18.050 --> 00:43:21.349 at one point like four to 500 meters like he 00:43:21.349 --> 00:43:24.429 was he was down an entire curve around a river 00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:28.489 at one point in the final yeah like that was 00:43:28.489 --> 00:43:30.809 something i was like okay guys come on now can 00:43:30.809 --> 00:43:33.090 you can you don't have to embellish that bad 00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:34.449 yeah i mean that's the kind of stuff where i 00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:36.269 think if they had set up earlier that like he 00:43:36.269 --> 00:43:38.710 is this badass that like just toyed with people 00:43:38.710 --> 00:43:40.670 where it's like oh you can make up ground like 00:43:40.670 --> 00:43:44.809 maybe that would be more of a play yeah that 00:43:44.809 --> 00:43:48.449 seems like a whole nother like story to try to 00:43:48.449 --> 00:43:51.059 add on yeah So they were definitely trying to 00:43:51.059 --> 00:43:54.800 just hit like a couple historical markers and 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.159 Canada can't make fun of their own guy. Yo, did 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.900 you guys know when Canada got their flag? I didn't 00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:04.559 realize this. It was like 1960. Really? Yeah, 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.260 man. 60s? That's why they have all those British 00:44:06.260 --> 00:44:08.260 flags. I mean, I kind of got the British flag. 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:09.880 I mean, they were still like a British colony. 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:11.679 Not at that point. They had just become their 00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:13.519 own. That was like their big thing. It was their 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.619 like, yay. Hey, we're our own country. Now stop 00:44:16.619 --> 00:44:19.380 drinking beer. Yeah, no more booze and we're 00:44:19.380 --> 00:44:21.460 going to still wave the same flag. Well, that 00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:23.300 was the whole. Thank God we've thrown off the 00:44:23.300 --> 00:44:25.639 shackles of British tyranny and we can finally 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.480 be sober. Fuck me. So where do you guys put this 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.050 in the like grid good cage? Bad movie, good, 00:44:34.130 --> 00:44:39.650 bad, bad, good. Sean, bad, good, bad. Bad, caged, 00:44:39.750 --> 00:44:43.969 mediocre movie. It's like it's not, again, it's 00:44:43.969 --> 00:44:45.690 not bad enough to be entertaining, so I don't 00:44:45.690 --> 00:44:49.530 even want to give it that much credit. I'd give 00:44:49.530 --> 00:44:52.630 it a fine, fine. I don't think it's like a bad 00:44:52.630 --> 00:44:56.090 performance. It's not necessarily like riveting 00:44:56.090 --> 00:45:01.000 or like impassioned, but. He's not doing things 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.900 that take me away from the film. Fair enough. 00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:08.219 Yeah. I mean, this could be just directorially. 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.659 So this could be one of those things where he 00:45:10.659 --> 00:45:14.280 just didn't have any kind of room to play with 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.219 the character. They're just like, no, we need 00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:18.320 it this way. Just do it this way. Ned Hanlon 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.519 strokes this way. Yeah. He's always at a 45 when 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:26.460 he strokes this way. Just solid. Yeah. So what 00:45:26.460 --> 00:45:29.980 are you straight in the middle? It's it's one 00:45:29.980 --> 00:45:32.980 of those are just like like looking at this. 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.940 From my perspective, I'd I'd probably go maybe 00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:41.239 just a six. But it is your second favorite rowing 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:46.420 film. There's not many. This is this is easily 00:45:46.420 --> 00:45:51.519 like, oh, well, is this the Rudy of rowing? It's 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:55.360 worse. Oh, Rudy was off sides, by the way. Rudy. 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.230 I mean, that's just not a good movie. it's heart 00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:02.869 well it's heartwarming i guess but that's also 00:46:02.869 --> 00:46:05.670 not a nick cage film that's true yeah i think 00:46:05.670 --> 00:46:07.989 if i were to give this movie a percentage rating 00:46:07.989 --> 00:46:11.269 i would give it a 54 oh yeah let's let's all 00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:13.449 grade it differently so we've got a 54 we've 00:46:13.449 --> 00:46:17.730 got a six six uh i'll give it like two and a 00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:20.349 half bags of chips okay how many strokes do you 00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:24.389 give it sean yeah oh i mean at no point was i 00:46:24.389 --> 00:46:27.340 excited during this movie so i guess a lot of 00:46:27.340 --> 00:46:30.840 strokes just like nothing nothing about this 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.380 movie brings me to climax yeah fair enough i 00:46:33.380 --> 00:46:35.239 don't know final thoughts what do you got anything 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.980 to wrap this sucker up this movie would have 00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:41.960 been great if reese darby played trinket yes 00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.519 i had the same thought except he would have been 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:50.960 like what four or something like that yeah no 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:55.539 he's older than that 10 i don't know Yeah. Maybe 00:46:55.539 --> 00:46:59.079 he was that kid who wanted a cigaroo. He just 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.780 got that nice cigaroo. I'm Reese Darby. Honestly, 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.139 could we have made Trickett be the main character 00:47:06.139 --> 00:47:08.340 of this and just had a lot more fun with this 00:47:08.340 --> 00:47:12.059 movie? Because Trickett was such a better character. 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.019 Oh, yeah. But then we'd be making an Australian 00:47:14.019 --> 00:47:17.239 movie. Well, Hayden, thanks for being here. Thanks 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.260 for telling us about rowing and stroking and, 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:23.519 you know, yelling at dudes. Yeah. And legitimately, 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.079 I was a little bit more surprised on the rowing 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.619 side, because honestly, boys in the boat didn't 00:47:31.619 --> 00:47:34.219 do as great of a job on the rowing side, even 00:47:34.219 --> 00:47:36.420 though they at least made it to where it was 00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:39.500 the same actors that were rowing. Do you think 00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:42.239 they had a stroke coach? They probably they had 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.780 to have. They had to have. They had to have had 00:47:44.780 --> 00:47:49.099 a coach on the on the lodge. They had to. My 00:47:49.099 --> 00:47:51.639 dream job. Do they want to call it a stroke coach? 00:47:51.980 --> 00:47:55.380 No. No, they call it a coxswain. They had a coxswain 00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:57.260 in the back, but they obviously had a coach on 00:47:57.260 --> 00:48:01.880 the launch for sure. But no, it was better than 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.460 expected. A coxswain in the back and a coach 00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:07.239 on the launch. You know what? I'm just going 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.119 to say what we're all thinking. Dragon boating, 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.119 better. Better. You got the guy with the drum. 00:48:12.179 --> 00:48:13.659 You got the person who has to lean off the front 00:48:13.659 --> 00:48:15.760 of the thing and grab the flag. Much more interesting. 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.320 All right. Well, thank you all for listening. 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.420 You can find us on social media if you really 00:48:20.420 --> 00:48:23.800 care, or if you want to talk to us on Patreon, 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.440 we're on there at cage match pod or cage match. 00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.559 Nope. Cage match. And thank you to our sparkle 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.219 buddies, Josh, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam, Bill, 00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:37.599 and Stuart. And to our cage dancers, Ira, John 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.179 Freeman, Nathan, and Cameron. Also thanks to 00:48:41.179 --> 00:48:44.980 Bill Panks for our intro music. And that's that. 00:48:46.019 --> 00:48:55.480 Nice. Gonna make great food all day. Bye -bye. 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:03.719 Aiden, why aren't you on the Patreon? Honestly? 00:49:04.969 --> 00:49:06.909 That's a very valid question, and I appreciate 00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:10.090 it. Now is the time where we just bring people 00:49:10.090 --> 00:49:12.050 on who have never given us money and be like, 00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:14.750 hey, why haven't you paid us yet? Or listen to 00:49:14.750 --> 00:49:17.949 our show. We have a special tier of Patreon for 00:49:17.949 --> 00:49:20.190 people who haven't paid. It's really expensive. 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:24.369 Nice. But it helps you catch up. I was going 00:49:24.369 --> 00:49:25.829 to say, I guess Hayden is a silent investor. 00:49:26.170 --> 00:49:29.670 That's true. I was one of the investors in the 00:49:29.670 --> 00:49:31.690 board. You were a progenitor of the original 00:49:31.690 --> 00:49:34.829 tech that we got started with all this. And we 00:49:34.829 --> 00:49:37.349 did record in your room one time. Wait, what? 00:49:37.469 --> 00:49:41.110 Never mind. Don't worry about it. What did you? 00:49:41.190 --> 00:49:43.829 Okay. Where would you guys put the freaking microphones? 00:49:43.849 --> 00:49:45.789 Just like on the bedpost? We probably put it 00:49:45.789 --> 00:49:49.230 on the table. Yeah. Oh my God. We did a full 00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:51.769 set up. I want a video of this. If you listen 00:49:51.769 --> 00:49:53.309 to our podcast, you would have heard the story 00:49:53.309 --> 00:49:54.889 like five times by now. That's also the episode 00:49:54.889 --> 00:49:57.889 where I got really mad at everybody. It was also 00:49:57.889 --> 00:50:00.250 Doggy Dog. It was a terrible episode. It was 00:50:00.250 --> 00:50:02.190 a bad day. Doggy Dog and Ghost Rider? Fuck that. 00:50:02.469 --> 00:50:07.989 Was Rosie at least on the bed? No. No. Her little 00:50:07.989 --> 00:50:09.510 clickety -clacks are too loud. Hayden, why did 00:50:09.510 --> 00:50:12.670 you have a computer chair but no desk? Because 00:50:12.670 --> 00:50:15.429 I didn't need one. I'm a flight attendant. Stroke 00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:18.369 practice. Stroke practice. Also, running around 00:50:18.369 --> 00:50:21.289 the apartment on hardwood floors with a rolly 00:50:21.289 --> 00:50:23.170 chair? Great. Yeah, fair enough. That's true. 00:50:23.829 --> 00:50:27.230 Respect that. Underrated. I get it. All right. 00:50:27.269 --> 00:50:29.110 Thanks for being here, Hayden. Hey, that's Eric's 00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:32.929 cup chair to you. Cuck chair? Cuck chair. Wait, 00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:34.829 you want an Eric chair or a cuck chair? No, that's 00:50:34.829 --> 00:50:37.309 only Eric's cuck chair. I'd never have used it 00:50:37.309 --> 00:50:40.050 since because of it. Oh, boy. All right. We'll 00:50:40.050 --> 00:50:41.869 end on that note. Wait, no. I need context here.