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I was getting coffee this morning and walking

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the dogs because it's going to get fucking hot

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here soon. I was just like chatting with the

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woman about her lack of AC. And in the middle

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of the conversation, I'm like, shit, I'm supposed

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to be on a podcast. I got to go high priority

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shit. Which is how I'm going to now leave every

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conversation I don't want to be. Oh, shit. Oh,

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I'm supposed to be on a podcast right now. Bye.

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That's right. Actually, that's a pretty good

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exit line. Yeah. Unless you've used it numerous

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times and then people are just like, he's very

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unreliable. That's a very irresponsible person.

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Like, man, can't count on Sean. Start entering

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rooms. Is there somewhere you need to be? Yeah.

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Shouldn't you be on a podcast right now? Fucking

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generally, there's somewhere I need to be. And

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I always forget I'm trying to get better about

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putting stuff on my calendar. Hmm. Do you have

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a physical calendar? No, I should. Yeah, you

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might need that. That's like then I get fucking

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obstinate about it. I just keep writing things

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on the. It's just you're stuck in March and you

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just keep writing it on March 5th. Same difference.

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Yeah, it's March weather. Fives are fives. I

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fives are fives. I was supposed to put something

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in my calendar for next week, and then I got

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tripped up on how we still celebrate Flag Day

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and forgot what I was doing and then like went

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like, Oh, what was that thing I put in my calendar?

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That's right. You were thinking about Flag Day

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and forgot to write it down. It'd be cool if

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we could like just bring in some other flags

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like 2025 is the year of the. I don't know. Tiger

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flag. And it's just a flag with a tiger on it.

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And we celebrate that flag for the year. Yeah,

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it's like, hell yeah. Tiger flag. Tiger flag.

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And then next year, it's something else. It's

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like one of the flags from in front of a McDonald's

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just with the arches and everything. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's like, oh, cool. Your time to shine. That

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is a better symbol of American capitalism and

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American, like, superiority than the current

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flag. Also, it's unfortunate that Flag Day falls

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on Trump's birthday, too. So does it? Yeah, no.

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Yeah, what a bitch. I got to fucking see dogma

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in the theater last night. Oh, yeah. I haven't

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seen them in a really long time, but I remember

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liking it. It's been well, it's been out of print

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for like over a decade because of fucking Harvey

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Weinstein. Mm hmm. I think. They finally got

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the I think the rights finally got like turned

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over or he let him go because he was holding

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on to them out of spite for like him and Kevin

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Smith had a falling out long before all the Weinstein

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stuff came out. So Weinstein was holding on to

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it out of spite. It holds up better than I thought

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it would. I forget how terrible the acting is

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in a. Yeah, it's not good. You look in any Kevin

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Smith film. Yeah. Not a priority, but shit golems.

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Hell yeah. I feel like Clark gets a pass because

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it's his first film. But it really does set the

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template of like no one acts. Yeah. But like

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this is a movie of really good actors and well,

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I say that it's fucking Chris Rock and Selma

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Hayek. Those are the really good actors. Those

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are the two you're pulling out. No, I was going

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to say it has really good actors thinking of

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Alan Rickman. Then I thought about the rest of

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the cast. I'm like, never mind. The movie has

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Alan Rickman. Those are the only movies with

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only scenes with chemistry. Yeah. Yeah. I kind

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of like the Alanis Morissette as God, though.

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Yeah. She's sort of a charming doofus. Yeah.

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She doesn't say anything. Yeah, it's perfect.

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She does say boop. She does say boop. I do appreciate

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this is now a dogma podcast. That's my last thought

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on it. I do appreciate the Chekhov's gun of Alan

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Rickman saying to hear the voice of God, your

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brain would melt and your heart would explode

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out of your chest. And that's exactly what happens

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to Bartleby at the end of the film. Yeah. What

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I'm saying, it was cool to see on the big screen

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and holds up better than I thought. That's cool.

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I think he was considering a sequel to it from

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something I saw online. After I think they resubmitted

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this for can or something like that. I don't

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know. Interesting. I saw headlines didn't read

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story. I same. Yeah, I have not seen clerks three.

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I enjoyed clerks two for what it is. I just like

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those characters. And I was always a fan of the

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cartoon show. So I'm like, you can do more with

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these two. But I don't need a heartwarming movie

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about how Randall has a heart attack and is dying.

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That's not what I want Randall for. Yeah, not

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at all. So. Welcome back to cage match. I have

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not figured out a new intro for whatever the

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fuck we're doing now. Today, we're discussing

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fast times at Ridgemont High, and I feel like

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we should discuss this movie just as much as

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Nick Cage is in it. So let's keep talking about

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dogma. It's worth talking about. Yeah. But yeah,

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it is. It's remarkable how little he's in this.

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But yeah, we introduce yourselves. Oh, I'm Sean.

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I'm Nick. And I'm producer Peter. Welcome back,

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everybody. Season three, baby. Three. OK. Yeah.

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Four. Three. When? I don't know. Ten. Well, you

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know, I keep thinking about Daryl on his Defoe

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podcast. They like break it down in such a strange

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way. They're on like season 12 and it's like

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and we're in 2005 for Willem Defoe. It's like,

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what the fuck? Well, to be fair, that's fucking.

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British UK style. Yeah. Like they have a different

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numbering system like they have like their seasons

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are eight episodes long. Yeah. Fives are still

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fives, though. So. But yeah, obviously, fast

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times at Ridgemont High. Yeah. I thought I had

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not seen this movie before. And then as soon

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as we started it, I was like, oh, I've seen this

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entire movie. I know what I'm doing now. And

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that was a relief. I really like Spicoli. Spicoli

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makes me laugh. Yeah, his interactions with Mr.

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Hand. Crack me up. That is absolutely the best,

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like two part buddy. Yeah, they're the greatest

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duo. Yeah. So because everything else is sort

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of just like weird vignette characters that have

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no arcs for the most part. Sean and we're talking

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about that. It's like, who is this movie actually

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about? Yeah, I would assume it's about the girl

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who? Yeah, Stacey. Yeah. Judge Reinhold's sister.

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Who just wants to bang. Mm hmm. Played by Jennifer

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Jason Lee. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. This is one of those

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movies I missed when I was like the appropriate

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age to like like this, like I enjoyed the performances.

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I thought the stories were fine. I didn't dislike

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the movie. I enjoyed watching it. But the relatability,

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I feel at 40 completely out the window. Oh, yeah.

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It's definitely a movie for teenagers. Yeah.

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So something about a fucking. Teenage sex romp

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hits different at 40, especially when the primary

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character is supposed to be 15. Mm hmm. And there

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is grout. There is like full frontal nudity of

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an actress who is 19 at the time. And I'm like,

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this is early uncomfortable. I do not like any

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of this. Did I sleep through Bush? Like, no.

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Yeah. OK. So just boobs. Yeah. Full boobal nudity.

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Yeah, Phoebe Cates and Jennifer Jason Lee boobs.

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Yeah. Yeah. I'll see you got the names. I yeah,

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I never get the names. That's just like sweet.

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There's Stacey and Linda with our character names.

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Nice. Yeah, I was realizing too that like I had

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never seen this movie and most of my reference

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was just the Reinhold clip of like his fantasy,

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but mostly from The Man Show, which I don't know

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if you ever saw that episode where they did it.

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They lampoon it, but it's like. That maybe it's

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Jimmy Kimmel coming out of the pool, taking off

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his top and having Corolla's in the bathroom,

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eating a corndog while watching. Awesome. Yeah.

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That's about all I remember from the show. Oh,

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I want to talk about trampolines. There was that

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there was the guy who could drink beer fast.

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Yeah, he's dead now. Well, yeah, he probably

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has esophageal cancer that got him. Well, that's

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upsetting and a downer. Yeah. I was going to

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talk about how Judge Reinholdt was whacking up

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in the toilet, like on his knees in front of

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it, just whacking one into it. Yeah, good old

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Judge. Fucking knock. And he wasn't even so put

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out by it either. Yeah, right. How do we want

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to break down this movie since it is mostly the

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yes. Do we each want to take like a character's

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arc and just like do a quick like run through?

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No. Are we just giving up the pretense of like

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discussing what the movies actually happens in

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the movie? Oh, we could give it a try. Give a

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quick summary. So it's the final year of some

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some of these students high school careers. Judge

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Reinholdt is a senior. He and his girlfriend

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break up because she just has, you know, so much

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more life to live, which was a relief to him.

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Well, he wants to break up with her because she

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won't put out. Yeah. Which is reasonable. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's a high schooler movie. Yeah. Yeah.

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So it's just the story of like the last year.

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There's one girl who works at OK. So most of

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these people work at the mall in some form of

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food or another. One of the servers at the pizza

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place. Hooks up with an older guy and they bang

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in the dugout At the point. Yeah, they call it

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the point weird She just kind of become like

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that's her association with dating now is just

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banging. So she becomes a banger a people banger

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then who else is miss their spicoli he's a Like

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a stoner surfer kid played by Sean Penn Yeah,

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he's the best. I love when they enter the restaurant

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and just take their shirts off and it's like,

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hey, what's the sign say? No shirt, no shoes,

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no dice. Oh, that's right. Shirts on boys. I

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do like I do like it's like I know you had shirts

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on when you came in here. Yeah. That was fun.

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So, yeah, he's kind of a dingus and he's. Most

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of his story is centered around this one class

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with his history class with Mr. Hand, who's just

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a very strict kind of guy, which doesn't work

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with somebody like Spicoli. Judge Reinholdt is

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going through a series of jobs. Yeah, he gets

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fired a lot. Yeah. Oh, did you guys look at the

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IMDb of his boss? His boss, Dennis Taylor, the

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one who fires him for, you know. Call him the

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customer piece of shit or whatever. His IMDb

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profile picture is awesome. Oh, I didn't see

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it. Oh, perfect. Wow. I believe that's probably

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from Voyage of the Rock Aliens. That that has

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big voyage of the Rock Aliens energy. It is weird

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to see. Oh, my God. That's amazing. Pretty good,

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right? Is strange to see because this movie.

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What year did this movie come out? 82. So it

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is like weird to see there are actors in this

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film who I'm like, I know that person. It isn't

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till the credits. I'm like, it's like, holy shit,

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that's that's a very young Forrest Whitaker.

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He looks like a fucking giant dude in this. I

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mean, Forrest Whitaker is is pretty big. He's

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like 6 '2", but he looks massive by comparison

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to like, yeah, demone or rat or something like

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that. Demones a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. OK.

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He's a he's a little snake. But, you know, he

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did it for the right reasons. No, he didn't.

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And then immediately. So, yeah, there's the other

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story of what is it? Mark Rat Ratner and Mike

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DeMone. Mark works at the mall and has a crush

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on Stacey and gets all of his advice from his

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cooler friend, Mark. who everyone fucking knows

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is a skis bag. Yeah. And like we're introduced

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to Forest Whitaker's character because Mark's

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like, hey, man, like just trying to like be like,

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I'm friends with this guy and guys like, don't

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fuck with my car. I like how they handled Spicoli

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fucking up his car. That was clever. Yeah, because

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they have like the big game against the rival

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school, Lincoln, which also assassinate Lincoln

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stickers. Yeah, pretty good. I don't think high

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school ever lived up to the movies about high

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school. Which is probably for the best, considering

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the amount of statutory rape that's in these

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films. Yeah, that's true. God, you're such a

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downer. Just let the kids fuck. Like I said,

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like these movies hit differently at 40. I suppose.

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Especially when I don't have like, oh, this was

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a fun movie I used to like. Yeah. I could go

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back and watch Revenge of the Nerds. It's not

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cool. Yeah, that one doesn't does not age well.

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No, those ones are very much in the. We're going

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to have very questionable. Yeah. Material, but

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it's lots of boobs and then porkies has a hand

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job. Oh, yeah. I do like the take on this, like

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female director. So I do like the like we're

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going to do the reverse porkies where it's the

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girls who are like the sex obsessed ones and

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all the guys are kind of like. Just don't touch

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my no area. Dorky boys in high school, right?

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Yeah. Even, you know, Damone is this like slick,

00:14:37.820 --> 00:14:40.899
cool guy, but he busts a nut in 20 seconds, you

00:14:40.899 --> 00:14:44.519
know. I love that. It's like, I think I came.

00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:48.600
Didn't you feel it? I think so. Sure. I think

00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:54.220
I felt something. Yeah. And then this fun, like

00:14:54.220 --> 00:14:56.360
awkward teenage comedy comes to a screeching

00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.179
halt when she's like, I'm pregnant. I need an

00:14:59.179 --> 00:15:02.940
abortion. Yeah. Hey, that's life, baby. But then

00:15:02.940 --> 00:15:04.980
we get that sweet moment with her and Judge Reinhold

00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:09.799
and they like bond. Yeah. Get your older brother

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to drive you to the bowling alley across from

00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:15.240
the abortion. It's kind of interesting that Amy

00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.539
hasn't really done anything else. You know, I

00:15:17.539 --> 00:15:21.139
mean, since sorry, she did like clueless, you

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know, is a notable one. But then there was. Not

00:15:25.269 --> 00:15:30.590
much else a couple more called loser vamps And

00:15:30.590 --> 00:15:33.769
that's it Interesting. Is she still alive? She

00:15:33.769 --> 00:15:36.649
is alive. We should write a letter to her Hey,

00:15:36.649 --> 00:15:38.250
why aren't you doing she has an upcoming credit

00:15:38.250 --> 00:15:41.269
for clueless, which you know, I don't know what

00:15:41.269 --> 00:15:46.110
that actually means Stage revival she did. She

00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:48.509
was a writer. I'm look who's talking. Oh, there

00:15:48.509 --> 00:15:53.590
you go. Yeah But not look who's talking to Now,

00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:58.429
let's find out. That's important right now. All

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the hot hits. But I thought this was a fun little

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film. If you, you know. Aren't a prude like one.

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I just set aside the few scenes with. Yeah, if

00:16:08.950 --> 00:16:11.970
you're not a prude, if you set those scenes aside

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and watch the movie without those, it holds up

00:16:14.570 --> 00:16:16.990
just as well. If you have joy in your heart.

00:16:17.429 --> 00:16:20.509
Yeah, she did. Right. Look, who's talking to.

00:16:20.830 --> 00:16:25.980
Okay. Good. But I really like just the the slice

00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:30.200
of life action. I love the. Sorry, I'm just really

00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:32.620
into this Judge Reinhold character, too. Yeah,

00:16:32.980 --> 00:16:36.820
he's a Brad's a lot of fun and all of his jobs

00:16:36.820 --> 00:16:40.980
just suck. Yeah, he's getting through it. I'm

00:16:40.980 --> 00:16:42.720
glad nothing ever happened to his car because

00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.919
it starts out and he's like I only got four payments

00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:50.000
left on this bad boy Yeah, and I was like don't

00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.460
fuck up the car I like when he got fired and

00:16:52.460 --> 00:16:54.019
then he bangs on the bathroom door and he's like

00:16:54.019 --> 00:16:56.000
I hope you had a good piss Because he had to

00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.980
replace the guy at the register. Yeah Reinhold

00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:02.250
has some pretty good lines In terms of a structural

00:17:02.250 --> 00:17:05.569
arc, he has the best one in the film. I feel

00:17:05.569 --> 00:17:07.609
like the movie starts off with him on top of

00:17:07.609 --> 00:17:10.529
the world flipping burgers. He's got a good job

00:17:10.529 --> 00:17:13.990
on top of the world flipping burgers. He's like

00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:16.849
a junior manager. Yeah. I mean, that's how he

00:17:16.849 --> 00:17:20.009
sells it. Right. Yeah. He's like, I got a good

00:17:20.009 --> 00:17:23.069
job. It's my senior year of high school. You

00:17:23.069 --> 00:17:26.930
know, I'm going to like, so my wild oats. Mm

00:17:26.930 --> 00:17:29.660
hmm. And then immediately, he gets fired and

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he gets fired because a shitty customer like

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starts fucking yelling at him, calling him names,

00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.180
and he like gets frustrated, stands up for himself,

00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:40.099
goes through a slew of fucking shitty jobs, including

00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:45.160
having to dress like a pirate. As a waiter. And

00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:46.720
at the end of the. Which is also his masturbation

00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:50.980
outfit later. At the end of the film, he's like,

00:17:51.460 --> 00:17:54.720
it's his first day being, you know, the night

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shift at a gas station like. Quick Mart and gets

00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.960
held up. Another rude customer is like yelling

00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.180
at him and stressing him out. And he's, you know,

00:18:06.299 --> 00:18:09.160
throws coffee on the guy and like saves the day

00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:13.759
and makes assistant manager. Yeah, I know. When

00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.779
when I got to that point, Rachel had just gotten

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home and she was like, how much of this movie's

00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:18.420
left? I was like, I don't know. I think the credits

00:18:18.420 --> 00:18:19.940
are about to roll. And then it was like, and

00:18:19.940 --> 00:18:21.740
now Brad has a new job. Like, what the fuck?

00:18:21.819 --> 00:18:23.880
How much more is in this movie? I was like, oh,

00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:26.799
still nothing. But yeah. Well, that was the thing.

00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.500
It's like I'm I'm not a huge fan of like the

00:18:29.500 --> 00:18:34.119
vignette style of film, completely disjointed,

00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.400
like a ray of scenes like the characters were

00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.279
likable, but they're not being a through line,

00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.779
you know, kind of, you know, made it hard for

00:18:43.779 --> 00:18:48.440
me to maintain interest. And it covers like an

00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.000
entire year, too. So like the time frame isn't

00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.200
like, oh, here's three weeks. It's. Here's an

00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.460
entire school year. Yeah. A little less to connect

00:18:58.460 --> 00:19:01.539
to things too. Yeah. That way. Unless you're

00:19:01.539 --> 00:19:03.539
Stacy, then you're connecting all over the place.

00:19:03.579 --> 00:19:06.980
All over the place. And in the end, she learns

00:19:06.980 --> 00:19:09.740
that she just wants love and a boyfriend. And

00:19:09.740 --> 00:19:14.119
she gets with the little theater usher kid. The

00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:15.759
one who's had a crush on her the whole time.

00:19:16.579 --> 00:19:19.109
He seems like a nice boy. Yeah, they seemed fine

00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:21.210
for each other. I did like that he did like the

00:19:21.210 --> 00:19:24.450
classic, put up your dukes kind of fighting style

00:19:24.450 --> 00:19:26.150
when he was trying to beat up Mike DeMone. Yeah,

00:19:26.250 --> 00:19:29.809
his fisticuffs skills were undoubtedly top notch.

00:19:30.029 --> 00:19:34.869
Yeah. What was your favorite Spicoli bet? I like

00:19:34.869 --> 00:19:37.009
when he ordered the pizza to the class. Yeah,

00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:39.269
ordering the pizza in the class was pretty good.

00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:43.269
That could be that that's probably the best one.

00:19:43.589 --> 00:19:47.220
I like when he's having that dream also. His

00:19:47.220 --> 00:19:51.579
little like sex dream. Yeah. Yeah. He was just

00:19:51.579 --> 00:19:54.519
like a bad ass surfer. And there were like women

00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:57.160
just throwing themselves at him. It was great.

00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.799
You had a sweet trophy. Yeah. I kind of liked

00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:02.559
his relationship with his little brother. Yeah.

00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.460
Just like so contentious. I will say I do find

00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:10.200
it interesting how who got like Sean Penn gets

00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.759
top billing in this film for having a character

00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.519
who has. Practically no association with any

00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.299
other character in the film, except he meets

00:20:18.299 --> 00:20:20.980
up with Judge Reinhold twice, but they don't

00:20:20.980 --> 00:20:23.420
really have like an arc or like aren't friends.

00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.440
Like Reinhold comes. Intersect. Yeah. Comes in

00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.799
second. Jennifer Jason Lee, Phoebe Cates after

00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:34.160
that. But yeah. And like Jennifer Jason Lee is

00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:36.240
again, arguably who this movie is about. So I

00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.640
just I find it interesting. Like the like the

00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.519
way they broke it down. And then Nicholas Coppola.

00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:47.859
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's talk about that. He's

00:20:47.859 --> 00:20:51.480
in the background twice. Oh, he's in it four

00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.299
times. Four times. So some of them are just really

00:20:54.299 --> 00:20:56.799
fast. So like, I think I think I spotted him

00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:58.940
at the dance. Yeah, he was at the dance. I missed

00:20:58.940 --> 00:21:02.420
the dance one, but he was at the burger joint

00:21:02.420 --> 00:21:04.480
or something. Flipping burgers. That's that's

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.460
the most acting he does like a close up on him

00:21:06.460 --> 00:21:09.680
for a second. Right. So he's cracking eggs in

00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.019
that that breakfast scene. And then there's the

00:21:13.019 --> 00:21:15.039
one moment where the customer is being a shit

00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:19.740
and it shows Brad's bud, Nick Cage and whoever

00:21:19.740 --> 00:21:21.000
the other guy is. And they're both standing in

00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.480
the window and then they kind of just duck down.

00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.299
That's the acting. Then there's at the football

00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:30.059
game, too. Yeah. He's cheering in the crowd once.

00:21:30.619 --> 00:21:33.240
And he's we're first introduced to him when he's

00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.859
at when Judd Reinhold pulls up in the car and

00:21:36.859 --> 00:21:38.779
there's a line about like four more payments.

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He's right there as well. Oh, I didn't catch

00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:44.099
him there. They were all gathered around the

00:21:44.099 --> 00:21:47.619
parking space. So he makes a woo sound. He makes

00:21:47.619 --> 00:21:51.180
like five, five times on screen, baby. Something

00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:53.680
like that. Yeah. But it's cool. I mean, it's

00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.319
interesting that this was where you really made

00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:59.000
the switch from using his true family name. You

00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.440
know, it's like coasting along on that wasn't

00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.680
working. So switch it up. Appreciate that power

00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:09.039
man. Power man. But yeah, I mean, like for what

00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:14.220
it is, I think he did a fine job. Like it's face

00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:16.640
acting mostly. Yeah, that's right. Have I told

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.519
the White Power Man story on this podcast? The

00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.380
White Power Man. Yeah. I don't believe you've

00:22:23.380 --> 00:22:28.180
told the White Power Man story. So Nick Cage

00:22:28.180 --> 00:22:31.000
character, Nick Cage, Nick Cage's screen name

00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:35.789
comes from Luke Cage Power Man. Back in my. convention

00:22:35.789 --> 00:22:39.269
working days. There was this like big fat white

00:22:39.269 --> 00:22:42.450
guy dressed as like classic like yellow blouse

00:22:42.450 --> 00:22:47.319
tiara like Luke Cage. Mm hmm. And just from across

00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.400
the room, you hear me yell, look, guys, it's

00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:55.059
the white power man. And the guy stops in the

00:22:55.059 --> 00:22:57.380
middle of the convention floor, looks down and

00:22:57.380 --> 00:23:01.619
is like, just like mortified. What have I done?

00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:06.079
I have made a critical error. That's incredible.

00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.259
That's the white power man story. Nailed it.

00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.240
Short and sweet. Love it. Just like Nick Cage's

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.789
performance. Yeah, he never, never milks it or

00:23:16.789 --> 00:23:20.630
goes too long. Not in this film. No, not a lot

00:23:20.630 --> 00:23:23.230
of opportunity for him to do much in this. Yeah.

00:23:23.269 --> 00:23:26.190
Of all the Nicolas Cage films, this was not one

00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:30.670
of the worst. It's true. Yeah. Which is says

00:23:30.670 --> 00:23:33.450
a lot. I do kind of appreciate is like the two

00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:36.650
the two major movies we saw where Nicolas Cage

00:23:36.650 --> 00:23:38.950
plays second banana was Racing with the Moon

00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:42.900
and Zandily, which was Sean Penn and. Judge right.

00:23:42.980 --> 00:23:45.759
Yeah, that's actually kind of funny. I know it's

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.779
weird. We were reading that Nick Cage book and

00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:50.339
they were talking about sort of the falling out

00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:52.480
of Sean Penn and Nick Cage. And I don't know

00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.259
what happened. Yeah. Couldn't sanction his buffoonery.

00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:59.859
What about falling out of Nick Cage and Judge

00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:02.519
Reinhold? Yeah. Well, I mean, he did shoot him

00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.539
or whatever. No, he let him drown. Isn't that

00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:08.730
what happened? Didn't Judge Reinhold drown? In

00:24:08.730 --> 00:24:12.490
Zonda Lee, I got to need to remember. We watched

00:24:12.490 --> 00:24:14.170
that. I'm pretty sure he just let himself drown.

00:24:14.289 --> 00:24:18.869
Yeah, probably. What? God, I always like I go

00:24:18.869 --> 00:24:20.670
back and watch something from the 80s and it's

00:24:20.670 --> 00:24:23.150
like starring Judge Reinhold. Mike, really? And

00:24:23.150 --> 00:24:24.549
you're like, hell, yeah, this is going to be

00:24:24.549 --> 00:24:27.569
a good movie. Yeah. Handsome, great years. Yeah.

00:24:27.630 --> 00:24:29.089
But it's one of those things where I'm like,

00:24:29.170 --> 00:24:31.130
oh, yeah, I forgot Judge Reinhold was a thing.

00:24:31.809 --> 00:24:35.329
Yeah, he really had a moment. Yeah. And they

00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:39.700
were all bangers. Except for. Oh, what was it

00:24:39.700 --> 00:24:41.900
that we looked up? There's some like. No, I think

00:24:41.900 --> 00:24:44.140
we decided that there were no, no mistakes. Okay.

00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:45.779
Mistakes that we were not going to look up anything

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:49.299
else. Perfect. Another way clerks the animated

00:24:49.299 --> 00:24:54.240
series before the curve is they did the judge

00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:58.059
judge Reinhold joke before Arrested Development.

00:24:59.140 --> 00:25:02.539
Art and media peaked at clerks the animated series.

00:25:04.700 --> 00:25:07.609
Tell me I'm wrong. He's been in a lot of stuff,

00:25:07.609 --> 00:25:09.349
but we are just going to stick with the statement

00:25:09.349 --> 00:25:11.509
that Judge Reinhold has never done a bad movie

00:25:11.509 --> 00:25:15.150
or piece of media. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's rocking.

00:25:15.369 --> 00:25:18.829
He's crushing it. Prove us wrong. Is that our

00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:22.289
next podcast judging Reinhold? Oh, no. Not a

00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:25.269
chance. You don't want to watch all of Judge

00:25:25.269 --> 00:25:28.450
Reinhold's films. I mean, I would watch all of

00:25:28.450 --> 00:25:32.970
the Beverly Hills cop films. I would watch Zanderle

00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:37.049
again. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Fast times again

00:25:37.049 --> 00:25:40.250
gremlins gremlins or whichever one he's not in

00:25:40.250 --> 00:25:44.569
gremlins to gremlins Whichever one he's in the

00:25:44.569 --> 00:25:47.529
first just in gremlins. Yeah, and I know this

00:25:47.529 --> 00:25:50.829
because of clerks the animated series mm -hmm

00:25:50.829 --> 00:25:53.990
when Randall is trying to get his $7 back for

00:25:53.990 --> 00:25:56.410
every bad movie He's went to and he gets Spielberg

00:25:56.410 --> 00:25:58.509
in there and he's like might I remind the judge

00:25:58.509 --> 00:26:00.309
he's never been in a Spielberg movie It's like

00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:03.930
I was in gremlins, but gremlins to I'll allow

00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:08.450
it Gremlins 2 seems like more of a Judge Reinhold

00:26:08.450 --> 00:26:11.369
kind of vehicle. You would expect him in there.

00:26:11.950 --> 00:26:14.230
Yeah. Oh, Gremlins also had Phoebe Cates. I forgot

00:26:14.230 --> 00:26:17.190
about that. Well, yeah, I don't know what else

00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:19.450
we had to have to say about this one. I mean,

00:26:19.529 --> 00:26:22.970
as far as Nick Cage movies go, he was present.

00:26:23.069 --> 00:26:26.509
He was available in some scenes. Yeah. Yeah,

00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:29.339
it's great. It's where it all started. When we

00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:32.480
first when we first were starting this process

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.240
and we were just coming up with like what it

00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.720
was going to look like. I was talking to Andy

00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.059
about it and he's like, fast times are reaching

00:26:37.059 --> 00:26:40.619
my best Nick Cage movie. I'm like, it's not the

00:26:40.619 --> 00:26:42.240
star of that film. I hadn't seen it yet, but

00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:43.839
I knew he wasn't the star. I knew he's just like

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.299
a bit player. And now that like in retrospect,

00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:53.980
I'm like. Has he seen it in the movie? I mean,

00:26:54.099 --> 00:26:56.559
unless it's like Andy's favorite movie and Nick

00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.700
Cage is also in it. So he's just like, that's

00:26:58.700 --> 00:27:01.539
the best Nick Cage movie. That's not the only

00:27:01.539 --> 00:27:04.119
way you could go about it, though. Yeah, I don't

00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.000
know. I think overall, it was, you know, it's

00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.720
a nice weird walk down memory lane for how movies

00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.559
used to be. Yeah. It gave me like big Valley

00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.420
Girl vibes. For sure. I will say this movie is

00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:21.079
cut. Really? Well, it is a it's like it's the

00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.559
editing is really quick. It doesn't like it doesn't

00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.700
have that thing of like 80s early film where

00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:30.180
it's like much longer shots and much longer like

00:27:30.180 --> 00:27:33.599
dead time between scenes. It cuts like a modern

00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.339
film. Yeah, the scenes don't linger for sure.

00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.660
Yeah. I wanted more Mr. Hand, though could have

00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:45.400
always used more hand more hand job. OK, I really

00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.200
enjoyed last thing I'm going to say, I think

00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:53.420
when Mr. Hand came to tutor Spicoli in his room

00:27:53.420 --> 00:27:56.140
and he just like looks around and it's just all

00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:59.500
the nudie magazine stuff taped up on this wall.

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:05.599
And he's just so disappointed. All right. Any

00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.579
final thoughts on fast times at Ridgemont High?

00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:10.619
If you're watching this movie for Nick Cage,

00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.380
don't. Yeah. But if you're watching it for Judge

00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:18.680
Reinhold, cool. Yeah. And Spicoli. Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.059
Sean Penn and Judge Reinhold crushing it. Yeah.

00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.839
I don't know that we I don't know if the trailer

00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:30.079
dropped between episodes or between like we'd

00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.099
wrapped up the original run like season two,

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but I don't know that we've ever discussed the

00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.980
Spider -Man noir trailer. No, we haven't talked

00:28:40.980 --> 00:28:45.019
about that. I don't think so. I am so excited

00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:47.319
for how terrible this thing is going to be. I

00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.559
have no hope that this is going to be good. Man,

00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.660
I hope Judge Reinhold plays a Nazi in it. That'd

00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:57.400
be so good. Or a Nazi sympathizer and then Spider

00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.839
-Man can beat him up. It's going to be a thing.

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Yeah, I mean, it will exist. I don't know if

00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.859
I have hugely high hopes for. No, I don't. I

00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:09.859
think it's going to be bad, but I'm here for

00:29:09.859 --> 00:29:11.839
it. And I'm looking forward. We need to keep

00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.579
this whatever this stick is going to turn into

00:29:14.579 --> 00:29:16.519
with the cage. We need to keep it going long

00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.720
enough so we can get to and review Spider -Man

00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.460
Noir episodes of noir. Yeah, that's fine. In

00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:30.559
the realm of like all the Sony Spider -Man movies

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like. the the new things like the Madame webs

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and the vampire boy. I don't know why I'm blanking

00:29:38.140 --> 00:29:40.880
on all of this right now. Yeah. Morbius and Craven

00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.339
and things like that. How do you think it's going

00:29:43.339 --> 00:29:46.359
to hold up? Like, are you expecting like a venom

00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.039
level bad where it's like bad but enjoyable?

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Or are you looking for Madame Webb where it's

00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:56.579
just like unwatchably bad? I never did you watch

00:29:56.579 --> 00:30:00.140
it? Oh, yeah, I watched it. I waited till It

00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.700
was like on Max or something. But yeah, it is

00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:07.119
not good. I have not watched any of outside of

00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.259
the Spider -Verse films. I've watched no Sony

00:30:09.259 --> 00:30:12.099
output for any Spider -Man media. Oh, it sounds

00:30:12.099 --> 00:30:13.619
like you need. You haven't even watched like

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:16.640
the Venom movies. Oh, those ones are actually

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.279
all right. Yeah, they look fine. I like Tom Hardy,

00:30:19.339 --> 00:30:21.500
but I'm just like, yeah, I don't care about this

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:24.440
character outside of his association with Spider

00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:29.069
-Man. Yeah. So Madame Webb was just. Terrible.

00:30:29.230 --> 00:30:33.109
Like the acting was awful. The story was bad.

00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:38.650
The characters were bad. And it it's just such

00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:42.029
a train wreck. Definitely worth watching. Sometimes

00:30:42.029 --> 00:30:45.569
shitty things are worth watching. Yeah. Morbius

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:50.950
was bad in a way that's not like hyper entertaining.

00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:55.349
It's just a bad film and it stars Jared Leto

00:30:55.349 --> 00:30:58.690
and that's. also bad. I mean, the best thing

00:30:58.690 --> 00:31:01.589
to come out of Morbius is the Internet trolling

00:31:01.589 --> 00:31:03.950
Sony to get them to do a second theatrical release.

00:31:04.349 --> 00:31:09.710
Yeah, it's more been time. Is Craven even out

00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:12.970
or is that like? I have no clue. I mean, yeah,

00:31:12.970 --> 00:31:16.329
it came out. It was bad. OK. I mean, I assumed

00:31:16.329 --> 00:31:18.690
it was bad. That was with the three name guy

00:31:18.690 --> 00:31:21.630
from fucking kickass, wasn't it? Aaron Taylor

00:31:21.630 --> 00:31:23.950
Johnson. That's the one. Those are the three.

00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:27.009
I need to watch Craven and then I'll let you

00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:31.109
know where I feel it sits. Yeah. I agree. I think

00:31:31.109 --> 00:31:34.549
Spider Noir is going to be pretty fucking terrible.

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One second. I saw this article the other day.

00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:39.049
I didn't read it because I didn't care. But because

00:31:39.049 --> 00:31:40.990
we're talking about it, Dakota Johnson opens

00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:43.869
up about the Madam Webmas. Quote, it wasn't my

00:31:43.869 --> 00:31:48.250
fault. Yeah. Yeah. I would point fingers elsewhere,

00:31:48.349 --> 00:31:52.410
too, if I were part of that. Yeah. She also like.

00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.740
kind of just shrugged off the, oh, it's a flop.

00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.200
It fucking happens. Like, what am I supposed

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.480
to do about that? Sometimes shit, shit. Yeah.

00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:05.460
Sometimes it's shit from a butt, you know. Is

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:09.539
that shit from a butt? That is one of my favorite

00:32:09.539 --> 00:32:11.880
subreddits is that shit from a butt and it's

00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:18.220
just pictures of food that looks like shit. I

00:32:18.220 --> 00:32:20.359
love the Internet. Yeah, thank you all for listening.

00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:22.839
If you are interested in supporting us on Patreon,

00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.200
which seems insane to say at this point, but

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.460
thank you. Apparently we're going to keep going.

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:29.759
Yeah, we're doing this shit. We're going to run

00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:30.940
through the back catalog. Are we just going in

00:32:30.940 --> 00:32:32.680
chronological order now? I think so. We're going

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:33.960
to figure it out. There are a couple of movies

00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.980
that are like very short performances like this

00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:38.339
where we have to just sort of decide if we're

00:32:38.339 --> 00:32:40.819
going to do a few at the same time or if we're

00:32:40.819 --> 00:32:43.940
going to do movie reviews of movies that he's

00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:46.700
barely in, you know, so we'll figure it all out.

00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:49.230
What would be next if we were just going chronologically?

00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:52.150
Maybe Rumblefish. Yeah, I think we should do

00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:54.089
that one. That's a that's a Francis Ford Coppola,

00:32:54.230 --> 00:32:57.349
right? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, that is. Yeah.

00:32:57.369 --> 00:33:00.049
Cool. Yeah, we'll do that one. I think and we'll

00:33:00.049 --> 00:33:02.109
probably try and have a guest for that, too.

00:33:02.430 --> 00:33:06.869
That's a 7 .1 stars on IMDb. Yeah, I think he's

00:33:06.869 --> 00:33:11.769
like a medium character in it. So we'll find

00:33:11.769 --> 00:33:17.009
out. Thank you to our Sparkle buddies, Josh.

00:33:17.670 --> 00:33:20.589
Wait, it's different. Josh, Josie, Rico, Matt,

00:33:20.730 --> 00:33:23.630
Adam, Bill and Stewart. And to our cage dancers,

00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:25.869
Ira, John Freeman, Lance, Nathan and Cameron.

00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:30.450
Nice. Oh, my God. In a few weeks, we'll get to

00:33:30.450 --> 00:33:33.650
finally watch the boy in blue. Yeah. Greasy bottom

00:33:33.650 --> 00:33:40.250
boys. Greasy bottom boys. All right. Good enough.

00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:49.980
It's our new sign off. Good. Fucking nailed it,

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:51.500
boys. Good enough.
