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Oh, God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wait, maybe your knives

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did it to my knives then. Oh, your knives did

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it too? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Yeah, it is.

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Your knives gave Peter's knives herpes. Yeah,

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exactly. They gave it AIDS. You should talk to

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Pete about the cure for that. Yeah, I love that

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Pete got over AIDS. It's super cool. It's so

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good. Thanks, Pete. But he's dying with that

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secret because he's not letting anybody else

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get over AIDS. Nope. Sorry, everyone else. Sucks

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to be you. sucks to your asthma pete figured

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out it's jacking off a lot and peeing into a

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crisper you know i'm glad i'm glad we finished

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the uh the bracket scene is this this is the

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one that'll get us canceled yeah we're off the

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rails now say your worst shit i'm not even gonna

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edit yeah no that's that's the cold open right

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there who do i have to impress now no one yeah

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we're really living up here now uh i got us some

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buzz balls hell yeah buzz balls buzz balls yeah

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it um it's not great but it's also not horrible

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right i've made worse mistakes yeah me too yeah

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yeah so sean you you had the fun experience of

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watching this solo nick and i had the fun experience

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of watching it with people and nick has also

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re -watched it solo or maybe with josie i don't

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know i mean she was there yeah but yeah We didn't

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talk, so. I did not rewatch it because I didn't

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have time nor desire. Yeah. What Peter is alluding

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to is the fact that this is Cage Magical and

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a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage. I'm

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your host, Sean, here with my co -host. Oh, that

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was weird. I didn't like that one at all. That's

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a buzz ball. Yeah. Nick. I'm Nick. And our producer.

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Peter. Hello. And Peter is. Talking about the

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new movie with Nicolas Cage in it, The Gunslingers.

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Sean, did you look if it was showing anywhere

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near you in a movie theater? God, no. I mean,

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to be fair, I did just drive to and from Seattle

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in a 36 -hour period and then kind of just crashed.

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I wasn't going out. Yeah, that's fair. You could

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have gone out that Thursday night, the midnight

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showing. It'll be fine. We looked around us and

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even for people who don't live here, basically

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it was about 50 to an hour away from us. And

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the only showing on its opening day was at 1045

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in the morning. Yeah. A real banger of a time

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slot. Yeah. Fandango's got watch at home. Yeah,

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that sounds about right. Yeah. Ooh, it's Rotten

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Tomatoes score went down to 5%. Yesterday it

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was 6%. Oh, and it started at 7%, so I mean...

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Hmm, is that audience or critics? It doesn't,

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there is no audience score. Well, let's go rate

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this fucking movie. 100%. Yeah, let's get into

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it. We're going to balance the scales. We're

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correcting this wrong. Okay, so my main critique

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of this film is I can't remember... Anyone else

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in this film besides Nicolas Cage, because everyone

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else is just some version of half bearded white

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guy, except for the Chinese guy who had a sweet

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ass wig. Sick wig. What's her name? Like Zima.

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Zima. Yeah. And then what's her name? Yeah. Yeah.

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You're better than I am. What's her name from

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The Hangover? Heather Graham. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Well, you can't forget the dwarf of it all. Well,

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the real standout of it all, I think, was Stella

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Rose. Oh, my God. Stallone. Scarlet Rose. Scarlet

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Rose Stallone. Yes. Stella Rose would have been

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a weird one. Stella Stallone. I wouldn't put

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it past him. I mean, how many George Foremans

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were there? It's true. Yeah, she gave it easily

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the shittiest performance in the entire thing.

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Oh, she gave the shittiest performance of like

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my. 2025 i don't think i've seen a worse performance

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than really bad that stone face killer well i

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want to say like i couldn't keep track of who

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was who at the big end gunfight they string up

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three guys one of which who is like the love

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interest to like fucking scarlet rose's character

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i do not remember being in that film at all up

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to that point yeah i mean he was in it for just

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like a couple like reactions basically he would

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have reactionary lines like oh where did bella

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go oh i gotta go do things and then like walk

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off yeah the villain is recognizable because

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his face is all bernie he's got an eye patch

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and he wasn't being hung he wasn't being hung

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also just start the movie where it starts And

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red bandanners. Face bandanners. Bandanners.

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Yeah, okay, so who wants to give the plot summary

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of this one? There's a town that wanted criminals

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go to where they fake their own deaths and start

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anew. Yeah. And Stephen Dorff is one of those

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criminals. He's a criminal, which we see as crime.

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Because he killed a Rockefeller. You can't fuck

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with the Rockefellers, man. Yeah, apparently

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not. You know, they could have just said that

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and not shown us that needless fucking epilogue.

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Yeah, it was pretty wild, especially just putting

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us into that scene. And it's like, oh, here's

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some chaos. I did appreciate all the people on

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fire, though. A lot of fire. Lots of people on

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fire in this movie. But also his brother goes

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up, get shot. near a fire but doesn't fall into

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the fire just get shot and immediately erupts

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in flame yeah oh his brother being the villain

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for the film right yeah so in the beginning in

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his defense he was very drunk and very covered

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in booze oh i thought you were gonna say he was

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a little bit drunk and a little bit a little

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horny i mean why wouldn't you you're a bandit

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you're there for banditry what do you think that

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bandana is for i i wanted to get this movie a

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little bit of credit, because they do show, uh,

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Stephen Dorff's character when he goes to the

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town, like, how, like, they baptize him, and

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they, like, they hang him, and they, like, they

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show us a hanging, and, like, there's photo evidence

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of the hanging, but, like, they have him in the

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gallows, they drop the foot out, you see the

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body drop, but apparently doesn't die, they don't,

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which, you know, they show at the end, you know,

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them saving some people who were hanging, but

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I thought, like, maybe it was, like, a fake door,

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just, they fake it some way, so when The guys

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get like hung when the three guys get hung in

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the end, nothing happens. And then they all start

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kicking ass. That's what I thought too. I even

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called it. We were watching with a group of our

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friends and I was like, Oh man, the fucking gallows

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are fake and nobody knows that they're fake.

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They're going to drop. And then suddenly just

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start blasting motherfuckers from like these

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nooses that are not actually strangling them.

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And I'm like, that would have been tight as hell.

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Yeah. No, but we did get the best, the best line

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read from that movie at that scene, but we'll

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get there. Cause we do need to talk about. Nick

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Cage. My first comment. The wanted poster of

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Nicolas Cage's character is just a photo of him

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from the gunslinger. Yeah, sure. I mean, you're

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not going to do like two different makeup and

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costuming looks. No, I mean, not the gunslinger.

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Sorry. Fucking the old way. Oh. The same hat,

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the same bandana. It's just a photo, a printed

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photo of him, mind you, from the old way. I didn't

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even notice that. I didn't notice that either.

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That's a good hat tip. But that's really stupid,

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too. Agreed. But, like, I don't know. Nick Cage's

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character is the only one who's kind of, like,

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got a gimmick. Like, you got one dude who, like,

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has knives. You have one guy named Doc, who's

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ostensibly a doctor. And then you have Nick Cage,

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who talks like this, man. And he made a promise

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to God to not kill anymore. Yeah, because the

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little babies and angels, you got to take care

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of them. You got to read the Bible. The Bible

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is good. I'm trying to get in there. And he's

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wearing those Hot Topic sunglasses. I'll take

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a little more of that. My theory is that he was

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just paid to put his name on the poster and they

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just like let him do whatever he wanted. I mean,

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we know for sure that Nick Cage loves Westerns,

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right? Like he's super into these. It's his third

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one in like. the last like clearly two years

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right so there's something about it the storytelling

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aspect of it the the history of westerns clicks

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for nick cage this movie did not click for me

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um i did think his voice while stupid as fuck

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was pretty fun yeah I really wish that Patreon

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listener John had been correct that it was because

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of a failed hanging, which maybe it is. Yeah,

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sure. They could have just said so. I mean, he

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could have been one of the earlier residents

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of Redemption. Before they figured out their

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trick noose. Yeah, before the trick noose, which

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I'm sure is just like the rope going down because

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it never tightened on their necks when they hung.

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Right. So it could just hook to like a harness.

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in the back the taint yeah or the taint yeah

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but a lot to grip there so you just hold the

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rope between your butt cheeks and you just squeeze

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really hard and if you can keep yourself up you

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get to join refuge or whatever it was called

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i'm gonna say a couple nice things about this

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movie because of all the westerns that he's been

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in this is by far the least shitty in terms of

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like fucking plot and like shit happening because

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There's a lot of like when he gets to when Stephen

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Dorff gets to town, like he has to like relinquish

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his guns and like all the stuff. And then later

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on, there's like a cave where they keep all the

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guns where they need to go and get them to like

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hold on the fucking cave with all the candles

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lit as if somebody was just down there like.

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two hours prior and everything is set up as little

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pedestal idols with people's weapons just sitting

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atop them was ridiculous. I didn't say it was

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good. I said it's the best of the three Westerns

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we've watched. Fair enough. Oh, yeah, I guess

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we should probably tell everyone, spoiler alert,

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we're going to ruin this movie if you want to

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watch it. We're going to ruin this movie. You

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didn't. The only reason you knew this movie existed

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is because you're listening to this podcast.

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Also, I will contend that Brian Skiba ruined

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this movie, but he directed it. well okay i mean

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so getting back to the absolute beginning of

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this entire thing we sort of joked about how

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you can tell how bad a movie is going to be by

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how many production houses are you know their

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title cards show up oh i didn't go back and like

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count did anyone count it was nine nine is a

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lot it's a lot that beats the old way by one

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yeah and i mean you can tell like certain characters

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are in there because of that it's like you put

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money from the middle east and now you have a

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middle eastern guy in the situation for some

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reason oh is that the guy that got shot and passed

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out and then like came back at the end and ran

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away that got blown up and then yeah i did text

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you guys um last night as i was starting this

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movie like three minutes into that first gunfight

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where the brother goes up on fire i'm just like

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i can't tell that this is just another prolonged

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title card it really honestly could have been

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it was like red bandana productions red bandana

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everyone is pretty bad in this movie um the dwarf

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like tries but doesn't really what's that gonna

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get him yeah yeah also he's bad with guns oh

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we gotta talk about the kid oh little miss jam

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and toast yeah little jammy bread girl i don't

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know what it is but the fact that like half of

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her involvement in the film was just eating bread

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and jam tickles me so much i think it's because

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she was so distracting on set that they were

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just like i don't know fucking sit down just

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give her some bread i don't know yeah enjoy some

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wonder bread and smuckers like fucking shut up

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kid yeah yeah her character is terrible heather

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graham's character is terrible they don't really

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have a point other than like kind of that surprise

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twist oh it's actually your kid which is never

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really a surprise because like If the brother

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had never said that the lady was Heather Graham

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was his wife, I never would have assumed she

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wasn't Dorf's wife. Right. Like I literally or

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legitimately believed that she was just following

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him because she was like, oh, that son of a bitch

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trying to run out on me. Yeah. I mean, she comes

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into town and is like, Thomas Keller, you know

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him? It's like, OK, the old lady. Yeah. Super

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weird. Was she riding with the posse and then

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got ahead of them one day? That's what she says.

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She says that she beat up her husband and stole

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his horse. Oh, nice. Which is how he knows that

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she's there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How do I remember

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that? You've watched it twice. Well, the first

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time I was remarkably high. That's fair. And

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the second time I was remarkably on my phone.

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So I will say this movie is considerably better

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with people because dumb movies with people.

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is at least entertaining can be fun dumb movies

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by yourself less entertaining not yeah not not

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a good movie not a fun movie not nearly as bad

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as i assumed it would be based on everything

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everyone had told me i'm like this is serviceable

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it's just not good whereas like butcher's crossing

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there's no plot there's no story there's no like

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it's just a bunch of like footage of buffalo

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and nick cage like being weird or the old way

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which is just shot very poorly well okay so that

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actually brings up a good question for me i know

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that we are you know obviously the finest of

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film critics um so i'm curious which of these

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three was like film production wise you know

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director of photography wise the worst because

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in my mind this one looks terrible yeah i think

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this one is like the worst to look at from my

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point of view because uh it just looks like those

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i don't know uh early 2000s or whatever ultra

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high def like tv shows the yeah the perspective

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just seems off like everything is too in focus

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everywhere i will agree like in terms of like

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just set everything this does look it looks cheap

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um i will say i just i hated the actual like

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cinematography and like the really bad shot reverse

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shot of the old way so much the light the bad

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lighting cues in the old way i mean again i'm

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someone's gonna hyper fix it on that stuff but

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no i just i cannot watch that movie yeah i would

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need a refresher but i'm not gonna ever watch

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the old way again i'm sure i will watch the old

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way again i mean we can do the western triumvirate

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get wild wild west i'm sure we could rent the

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beacon you know for a triple dip yeah play them

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all at three times speed so we don't only have

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to pay for one film's worth of time now you're

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talking my language baby speed run yeah so what

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all of these movies do is the really bad cg blood

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yeah like whenever anyone gets shot they use

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and are squibs just really expensive i'm sure

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i'm i'm sure it's only like three or four like

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practical effects in general are more expensive

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than just having somebody in china push a button

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i bet if you could like screenshot those like

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the blood explosions it's the same like animation

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just reused yeah i mean probably they're not

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rendered move that animation around on the body

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wherever it needs to go Yeah. Yeah. It's, they're

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like, you know, they're always, and it's just

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like, it's one of those things where it's just

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like, it would be less distracting if they just

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fell down, especially because the animation always

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hits about a beat or two before somebody reacts

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to it. There were three bodies I can think of

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where like a guy would get shot in the shoulder,

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stop, fall over. Yeah. I mean, I've never been

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shot, so I can't say how I would react to getting

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shot, but it does seem a little hokey. i mean

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i'm sure that you know impact inertia would like

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you'd you'd do more than just like fall over

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you'd like move a bit yeah you'd get spun a bit

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oh well like depends on it would depend on the

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caliber of the handgun i always think about the

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uh the simpsons when everyone is shooting each

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other with derringers just getting closer and

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closer to each other on the subject of shootings

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and stuff i find it so funny that like everybody's

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a terrible shot until they hit and then they're

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always like right on the heart right in the eye

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it's like always kill shots or nothing yeah wait

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how did how does the brother die ultimately i

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was just gonna say get shot in the eye patch

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yeah like through the back of all the things

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that i remember from this movie that part is

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completely a dead blank for me well and get shot

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in the head get shot in the eye like eye patch

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the hole in the eye patch and then bad cg blood

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runs down his face see that's the one like we

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we all know little salsa on the cheek yeah you

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got it yeah nice and easy the only thing more

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authentic is to actually shoot your artists but

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rust kind of ruined that for everybody thanks

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baldwin Lock him up. Do you guys want to produce

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a movie? Yeah, probably. Sure. Yeah, let's do

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it. uh what's 15 bucks gonna get us we can afford

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a western i'm pretty sure ah costuming oh speaking

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of costuming elizabeth will be mad at me if i

00:19:01.220 --> 00:19:04.920
don't mention that the uh the knitting on some

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of these things is definitely from machines and

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not from hands um which is bullshit they should

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have hand stitched everything should have been

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handmade hand woven everything the first shot

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of this movie it shows like new york city or

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whatever like in 1902 with like a weird thunderstorm

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You mean that sweet CG animated backdrop? Yeah,

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they could have said so much about it instead

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of rendering that on like effects later. Yeah,

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you could have filmed literally any facade of

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a building and been like, this is New York. You

00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.099
also just don't need it. Yeah. Because the very

00:19:40.099 --> 00:19:45.119
next scene of him like out West, just like filling

00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:46.640
up his water bottle and the bounty hunter shows

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up, exposits everything we just saw. Yeah. Also,

00:19:50.990 --> 00:19:54.329
that guy was a fucking douche. Oh, yeah. Fucking

00:19:54.329 --> 00:19:57.029
peeing in the river. Captain Waterpisser. Yeah.

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Fuck him. What was that song he was singing?

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Yankee boy, let me go home. Yankee boy, suck

00:20:04.490 --> 00:20:09.589
a ball. Yankee boy, suck a ball. I think it was

00:20:09.589 --> 00:20:13.609
that. Yeah, I think he nailed it. I know my Civil

00:20:13.609 --> 00:20:16.829
War time stuff. Hey, what's up with him being

00:20:16.829 --> 00:20:20.970
like. General Robert E. Lee, they're saying he's

00:20:20.970 --> 00:20:22.970
going to come back and do this and that. I'm

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like, he fucking died 70 years before this film

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took place. Do you think he's... Time traveled

00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:34.170
slowly back then. Yeah, right. News traveled

00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:35.609
slowly back then. They didn't have the internet.

00:20:35.890 --> 00:20:38.269
I guess, but if you were part of the Civil War,

00:20:38.349 --> 00:20:42.250
you probably know. Okay, so we got to talk about

00:20:42.250 --> 00:20:43.630
another costuming thing because it just popped

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back in my head. Speaking of heads, Stephen Dwarf's

00:20:46.390 --> 00:20:49.009
fucking hat. The second hat that they give him.

00:20:49.390 --> 00:20:52.309
What is wrong with that hat? It's camel toe hat.

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So bad. It is so weird. Like, I don't know why

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it goes all the way up and then just like pushes

00:21:02.529 --> 00:21:05.309
the little cowboy parts really close to each

00:21:05.309 --> 00:21:09.349
other. It's like lames on top of his head. And

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I love it. Every time I saw it in silhouette,

00:21:12.769 --> 00:21:16.170
it cracks me up. so many weird costume choices

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like the one uh female bad guy who just had like

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oh the smoky eye oh yeah yeah what was her deal

00:21:24.769 --> 00:21:28.589
anyways so also that like the only costume i

00:21:28.589 --> 00:21:31.289
didn't hate was nick cages and it's so just like

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it's it's just it's so weird yeah it's not it's

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very anachronistic it doesn't fit i liked a scorpion

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belt which you know is just nick cages belt that's

00:21:40.970 --> 00:21:43.880
pretty cool totally I did have to look up and

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yes, there are scorpions in Kentucky. OK, good

00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.059
to know. I mean, he could have been not from

00:21:50.059 --> 00:21:53.779
Kentucky, but. Well, there were scorpions shown

00:21:53.779 --> 00:21:57.920
in the like. Opening scene, I believe you. Yeah,

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there was a scorpion walking across a little

00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.180
thing and it's like, that's weird. And I got

00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:06.000
home and was like, oh, scorpions, Kentucky. If

00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.009
this if this movie would have come out. in the

00:22:09.009 --> 00:22:11.170
early aughts like around the time of like van

00:22:11.170 --> 00:22:13.750
helsing it probably would have been fine because

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it even has like well dorf would have been relevant

00:22:15.670 --> 00:22:19.089
and credits but it also has like the the end

00:22:19.089 --> 00:22:20.670
credit did you listen to the song at the end

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credits not a chance it's got it's got very new

00:22:24.849 --> 00:22:26.910
metal it's got a very new metal western feel

00:22:26.910 --> 00:22:32.009
it's like it's so bad okay sing a bit of it that's

00:22:32.009 --> 00:22:35.470
gonna be our outro Rap me the rap part. No, yeah,

00:22:35.589 --> 00:22:41.049
you sing. No, that was the 90s. Hey, that's new

00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.329
metal. It's all about weird rap rock. Ah, fair.

00:22:47.150 --> 00:22:51.789
It's the blend, the fusion of style. But yeah,

00:22:52.069 --> 00:23:00.259
I give this movie a solid eh. We have to talk

00:23:00.259 --> 00:23:02.700
about the best line in the movie, which is fucking

00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:05.740
when Nick Cage is trying to save the hanging

00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:11.960
guys. Help me! Good God! Help me, y 'all! Help

00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.259
me, God! Help me, Jesus! Good God, y 'all! Good

00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:19.099
God! It just goes full James Brown. Yeah, I know.

00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:20.980
It was so bad. I think he was just trying to

00:23:20.980 --> 00:23:25.190
channel rock and roll. Like black people. It's

00:23:25.190 --> 00:23:27.430
like James Brown. James Brown. Really fucking

00:23:27.430 --> 00:23:31.329
strangled. Yeah. Oh, man. I think my favorite

00:23:31.329 --> 00:23:34.549
was when they were passing around the flask at

00:23:34.549 --> 00:23:37.150
the end. He's like, I'm trying to get into heaven,

00:23:37.309 --> 00:23:40.509
but I'm going to have a little bit of that. Well,

00:23:40.509 --> 00:23:45.250
I do love a little Kentucky bourbon. Or when

00:23:45.250 --> 00:23:50.089
they were. helping the dude who got shot and

00:23:50.089 --> 00:23:52.950
they like go to hand him a bottle of whiskey

00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:55.430
and the bartender is just like, not that that'll

00:23:55.430 --> 00:23:57.369
blind him. And then everybody kind of looks at

00:23:57.369 --> 00:24:00.670
it. It's like, Oh, why do you have, it's like,

00:24:00.730 --> 00:24:06.150
you've been serving me this for years, sir. Okay.

00:24:06.250 --> 00:24:10.250
Wait, does this movie rule? I mean, it's dumb.

00:24:10.430 --> 00:24:12.890
Yeah. It's just a dumb movie. It's fun to watch

00:24:12.890 --> 00:24:14.869
with other people. That's how it's enjoyable

00:24:14.869 --> 00:24:17.960
is just to watch and make fun of. It exists on

00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:22.680
that level. It is not something. I, as somebody

00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.359
who has experienced it both ways, would recommend

00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:29.240
anybody do in the latter form of watching by

00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.779
yourself. Yeah. Or even silently with your partner.

00:24:33.299 --> 00:24:35.900
That's also fair. You have to be inebriated.

00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:41.140
And you probably should be with at least four

00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:44.339
people. Yeah. Sean, were you just white knuckling

00:24:44.339 --> 00:24:46.240
it or did you get somebody to watch it with you?

00:24:47.050 --> 00:24:55.549
No, I was on my own. Bless your heart. I love

00:24:55.549 --> 00:25:03.329
his shaky hands. I love that camera he had that

00:25:03.329 --> 00:25:07.289
he never had to like reload the film. Yeah. I'm

00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:09.109
not sure how that worked back then. I don't think

00:25:09.109 --> 00:25:12.150
it was that way. It was a single plate. You would

00:25:12.150 --> 00:25:13.970
like take the plate out and like, yeah. Yeah.

00:25:13.970 --> 00:25:16.400
Well, he wasn't like taking like. Shot after

00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.539
shot. He did during the hanging. Did he take

00:25:19.539 --> 00:25:21.700
a couple shots? There's like a pacing thing where

00:25:21.700 --> 00:25:23.319
it's just him with the music where it's like.

00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.619
Hmm. Yeah. Well, of all the things to care about,

00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:34.359
his camera was pretty low. Let's talk about glasses

00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.859
for a second. Oh, man. The one of the coolest

00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:40.940
part of his glasses or a part of his outfit.

00:25:41.539 --> 00:25:43.900
His bowler hat was pretty good. Bowler hat was

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:46.619
pretty good. I did like the hat. I like the bandana.

00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.660
Scorpion belt. He was good at shooting a gun.

00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.539
But yeah, the glasses. When you're good with

00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:56.440
a gun, you get a scorpion belt buckle. For stinging.

00:25:56.819 --> 00:26:00.279
With bullets. That's like the black belt of gun

00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:07.440
-fu. Scorpion belt buckle. I am upset that in

00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.720
the fight scene where he finally picks up his

00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.970
guns, he... Like when he's empty, he just tosses

00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:16.849
his guns. It's like those are your fucking signature

00:26:16.849 --> 00:26:20.609
weapons. Like what does it save you to throw

00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:22.289
them away? Just put them back in your holster.

00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:26.490
OK, great. You're carrying approximately. Eight

00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:30.049
pounds of metal. Probably not a big deal. It's

00:26:30.049 --> 00:26:33.230
on your legs. Just holster them. They're your

00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:37.670
guns, man. Don't just throw firearms on the ground

00:26:37.670 --> 00:26:40.579
and run away from them. Coward. But the guns

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:44.799
are the tools of the devil. Yeah. I'm so glad

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:46.839
I get to do that dumb fucking voice this episode.

00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:51.200
Yes. Hey, person who looked at his poster, what

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:56.059
was he wanted for? Yeah. I just looked at the

00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:57.940
photo. Butt banditry? I couldn't read any of

00:26:57.940 --> 00:27:01.880
that. Butt banditry. Not allowed back then. That's

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.200
why he's so into Jesus now. It's like, I'm repenting

00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:11.779
for all that ass I slayed. Just crushing pussy

00:27:11.779 --> 00:27:16.099
ass. Hey man, a hole's a hole in the wild west.

00:27:16.380 --> 00:27:20.099
Pussy's as good as pussy. I had to channel Daryl

00:27:20.099 --> 00:27:24.000
for that one. I did Google the old way just to

00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:25.740
see if it was the same. I'm pretty sure it was

00:27:25.740 --> 00:27:29.259
the same photo of him from the old way. But I

00:27:29.259 --> 00:27:30.940
forgot about his mustache in the old way in the

00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:33.519
beginning. Only in the beginning. He does shave

00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.700
it promptly so we know there's a time shift.

00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.049
Yeah. Which is one of those things, one of those

00:27:39.049 --> 00:27:41.569
little details I appreciate in a film. Yeah,

00:27:41.609 --> 00:27:45.690
when hair changes. Yeah. Well, I have to say,

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:51.230
I may have enjoyed my buzzball more than I enjoyed

00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:54.930
this movie. I mean, for starters, it didn't take

00:27:54.930 --> 00:27:59.109
nearly as long to get through. Fair. Yeah. Left

00:27:59.109 --> 00:28:01.640
about the same taste in your mouth. Okay, so

00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:03.480
I just pulled up the scene. You cannot read what

00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.819
he's wanted for, but he is worth $5 ,000. Ooh.

00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.859
Old West money. Yeah. That's in back then money.

00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.599
Yeah. That's in like, you can still bite the

00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:17.099
gold money. Oh, well, did you see the price of

00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:21.759
beer back then? No. It was a nickel. Oh, it's

00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.170
highway robbery. Yeah, that seems high. But I

00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:26.990
suppose if you have a weird outlaw town where

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:29.990
everyone is a ghost, then imports might be difficult.

00:28:30.029 --> 00:28:31.710
It might be a little more challenging. You're

00:28:31.710 --> 00:28:34.710
paying people off and passing it on to the consumer.

00:28:34.990 --> 00:28:37.349
Speaking of gold, what was up with the weird

00:28:37.349 --> 00:28:40.730
shaped fucking gold nuggets strewn about the

00:28:40.730 --> 00:28:45.130
cave room? Also, it was just candles, guns and

00:28:45.130 --> 00:28:50.049
like wanted posters and fucking irregularly shaped.

00:28:51.379 --> 00:28:54.319
Rhombuses of gold. Yeah. It is just weird nugs.

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.240
I'm looking at them right now. Yeah. Just kind

00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.799
of about. Who does that? Who just keeps their

00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:04.440
gold loose in a cave? Fucking weirdos. Jericho.

00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.220
It's protected by all the guns. Fucking. Yeah,

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.859
the guns that just go off. Yeah. A bunch of traps,

00:29:11.059 --> 00:29:13.359
Indiana Jones style. So you walk into the cave,

00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:14.700
you don't know the right steps. You just get

00:29:14.700 --> 00:29:17.180
shot by a bunch of guns. It's just a spider web

00:29:17.180 --> 00:29:21.180
of string everywhere connected to triggers. Good

00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:23.200
thing Stallone's daughter knows all the tricks.

00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.259
Oh, Stella Monroe. She fucking sucks. She was

00:29:27.259 --> 00:29:30.779
the worst. Absolutely the worst part. All right.

00:29:31.099 --> 00:29:33.539
Final thoughts on this one. We got a half hour

00:29:33.539 --> 00:29:38.539
of content. We're good. All of it golden. Yes.

00:29:38.700 --> 00:29:44.380
Our part is golden, yes. We're at least a 14

00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:47.400
% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah.

00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.859
The Gunslingers, don't watch it. Yeah, I say

00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:53.460
watch it if you've got friends who want to watch

00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:56.319
something with you that is stupid. Yeah, don't

00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.299
set out on this to like watch something. Like

00:30:00.299 --> 00:30:03.700
you're going to be proud of watching later. Yeah,

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.640
you can just watch it and not tell anybody and

00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.519
be OK. And you can watch it with other people

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.420
and like everybody swears themselves to like

00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:16.859
secrecy over it. That's OK, too. But no one's

00:30:16.859 --> 00:30:21.960
going to have good things to say. True. Unless

00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.500
you're drinking buzz balls. Buzz balls. This

00:30:24.500 --> 00:30:26.960
episode is sponsored by buzz balls. Yeah. It's

00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.140
women owned. So fucking deal with it. Yeah. Go

00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:33.559
get your buzz balls. Cage match. Buzz balls.

00:30:34.019 --> 00:30:37.259
Wham. That's what we're doing now. We're saying

00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:40.079
wham. Yeah. We're going full shock jock now.

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:44.700
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for listening. And thanks

00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:47.200
for those of our fans who watch this with us.

00:30:49.069 --> 00:30:51.170
Yeah. Thank you for listening. Thanks to our

00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:54.309
patrons. Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam,

00:30:54.329 --> 00:30:56.109
and Bill are sparkle buddies. Josh. What are

00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:57.089
you still fucking doing here? The podcast is

00:30:57.089 --> 00:30:59.750
over. Shut up. Yeah. What are you still doing

00:30:59.750 --> 00:31:02.170
here? Have you confirmed that these people are

00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:04.369
still supporting us? As far as I know. Oh, okay.

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:06.519
Cool. Yeah, give us your money. We got to keep

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.299
making content. So anyway, thank you to our Sparkle

00:31:09.299 --> 00:31:11.299
Buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam,

00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.460
Bill, and Stuart. And to our cage dancers, Ira,

00:31:15.619 --> 00:31:19.500
John, Freeman, Lance, Nathan, and Cameron. Yeah,

00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:22.680
you guys are awesome. Fuck, I got nothing else

00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.799
to say. We've got this coming out. Our finale,

00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:29.799
you've all heard at this point, I assume. Unless

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.779
this is your first episode, in which case, fuck

00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:33.119
you. You got to start over from the beginning.

00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:37.150
um he still would have heard this before this

00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:40.329
even if he started at the beginning shut up nick

00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:47.589
and your brain steward and then yeah come back

00:31:47.589 --> 00:31:50.230
uh pretty soon for our dnd game and the surfer

00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:52.650
and the surfer we're gonna do both of those hopefully

00:31:52.650 --> 00:31:57.549
a good film yeah it looks eat the rat i i am

00:31:57.549 --> 00:32:04.000
expecting this to be as good as as sympathy for

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.160
the devil that's the expectation i have set for

00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.819
this film already and it better not disappoint

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:12.200
me okay so i'm giving myself homework because

00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.819
i still have not watched that one oh josie hasn't

00:32:14.819 --> 00:32:16.359
either so if you want to watch it sometime we

00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:17.759
can get together yeah let's do that that sounds

00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.200
fun um i would like to see that because you guys

00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:21.819
really kind of talked it up in a way that i was

00:32:21.819 --> 00:32:25.700
not anticipating so yeah it'll be interesting

00:32:25.700 --> 00:32:30.789
for me to see if it still holds up uh after A

00:32:30.789 --> 00:32:33.430
year? Does he talk like this the entire time?

00:32:33.809 --> 00:32:37.930
Boston accent. Oh, ooh, all right. Intentionally

00:32:37.930 --> 00:32:41.130
Boston, if I recall. Well, I didn't expect to

00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:42.750
end this thing with a rock hard. He has a great

00:32:42.750 --> 00:32:44.609
crime jacket. Yeah, crime jacket. Crime jacket,

00:32:44.609 --> 00:32:50.089
too. And sick red hair. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

00:32:50.829 --> 00:32:56.009
Steert. Baby!
