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Oh, God. Oh, my God. Right. Which one am I? Three.

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The usual. you right now the usual it's been

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six months yeah exactly come on i'm number one

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where i where i live in my home studio in your

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own heart yeah oh fuck no i'm like seven in my

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own heart well hey look at us we did it and now

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we're recording in person i'm not i'm not a fan

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of this in person yeah yeah it's lost its charm

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yeah it's hard to Don't subjugate yourself to

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the radiance that is my presence. I've missed

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you, too. As you should. I don't know. It's it's

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eight in the morning. I've only had one cup of

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coffee. So this is you're doing, though. Yeah.

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So welcome back to Cage Match. Cooling around

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about way of meeting Nicholas Cage, which hasn't

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worked. And at this point, probably won't. Yeah.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co -host, Nick.

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And our producer. Peter, hello. And Rosie and

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Ben are with us in the studio today because I

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drove up from Portland and I could not find a

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dog sitter. So yeah, if you hear the clickety

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clack click clacks, that's Rosie. And if you

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hear a clippy clop clip clop, that's a judge.

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Speaking of judging, that's what we do on this

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podcast. We started with 64 Nicolas Cage films

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and we're down to the final two. That's math.

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Is that math? Eventually. Wait, we've been doing

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math this whole time? Yeah, it's a trick. Sean,

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this has actually been one big long con to get

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you that GED. We're going to get you there, buddy.

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Congratulations, you did it. Next podcast is

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going to be reading comprehension. I wouldn't

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hold a breath on that one. Well, yeah, you guys

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want to talk about what we actually did for the

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finale? I mean, most of the people who listen

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probably already know. Yeah, you were there.

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There are other people who listen to this show

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who we don't know. Yeah. Which is shocking. Weird.

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And thank you for listening, whoever you are.

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Also, thank you for those who have just jumped

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on. Yeah. Stuart. Yeah. Thanks, Stuart. You'll

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have you have three years of episodes to catch

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up on. Then you can listen to this episode. So

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you can't listen to it, Stuart. Yeah. So we were

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able to gather and. put on a double feature of

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our final two selection at a local movie theater

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a little little uh i don't know if they're an

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art house they're a hole in the wall yeah it

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used to be like a yoga studio and then they took

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it over and they run yeah like predominantly

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art house movies but i was talking to cameron

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patron cameron and he was saying that the last

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time he had been at beacon they were doing like

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a kaiju week or something like that or a month

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even i don't remember he was like yeah i'm gonna

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watch as many godzillas as i can this is gonna

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be amazing It's incredible because they do zero,

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so far as I can tell, marketing about what they're

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showing when and where. Yeah, you just have to

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be in the know. You have to just pop in. I was

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getting coffee at my old local shop yesterday,

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and they asked me why I was in town. I'm like,

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oh, we're finishing up a cage match. We rented

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out the Beacon, doing a Nick Cage double feature,

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and a woman who was just having coffee in the

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shop was like... i did not see this i just checked

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their calendar when when could i have bought

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tickets yeah i guess when you rent the beacon

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they don't put anything on there i wonder if

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we had said so if they would have popped it on

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their site or something yeah this is open if

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you did want people to buy tickets yeah so yeah

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next time we have a two cage movie finale we

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can do that in three and a half more years we're

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starting from the top yeah this time we're gonna

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fight to find the worst nicholas cage only the

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stinkers and the ones where he's in it for less

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than a minute what do we need we need 14 more

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movies to have another bracket yeah something

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like that we're not doing that but it was really

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nice to get everybody together and see everybody

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and meet the the folks that i've never met before

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like cameron and yeah that was cameron was the

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one that cameron is the one that you got into

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the show yeah you spoke to them That's your fault.

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Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Outside

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the bird. Yeah, I believe it was the hummingbird

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situation. Yeah. It's a really cool experience.

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I think more people should take advantage of

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that if you're in the South Seattle area. Or

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even, you know, beyond that, like people who

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don't live in this area and have wanted to do

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something like that. Most movie theaters have

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the option of renting for like not that much

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money if it's at weird hours. Yeah. So. Look

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into it. Shout out to The Beacon. Thank you.

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Even though I don't know any of their listens

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to us. Probably not, but who cares? Yeah. Shout

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out to them either way. It's a great place. Tell

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them Cage Match sent you. Yeah, right. You'll

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get a discount. No, you won't. You won't. But

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yeah, what do you guys think about the actual

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experience of watching with people versus like

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most of how we've watched these movies is either

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solo with. the three of us or like you guys had

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the one experience of wild at heart in the theater

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right yeah well wild at heart and uh moonstruck

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that's right yeah i thought it was great it was

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uh it was interesting to me watching pig with

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a group especially a group uh including so many

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people who hadn't seen it before the the humor

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came back out and it was I actually was sitting

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there and I was like, oh, maybe this is how Meredith

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ended up thinking that this was a comedy. And

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then I was like, no, it's still not a comedy

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and they're still wrong. It's a dark comedy.

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I did have the same thought, though. I was like,

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there was more laughter in moments that I didn't

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really think or that would have only kind of

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like elicited like a little bit of a tweak of

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the smile or a little from me originally that

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it was like, oh, that is kind of funny. That's

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funnier than I thought. Yeah. Well, we've seen

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it so many times. Well, that was going to be

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my experience with this is because, I mean, I'm

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not. I'm not a fan of being around that many

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people. Not many people are a fan of being around

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you. I'm fine. That's my whole that's my gimmick.

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That's my shtick. That's just acceptance. That's

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accepting that you're not meant for public consumption.

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That's fine. That's why I do this from a bunker.

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Getting to engage with these movies again in

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a way where there are no distractions. There's

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nothing else to like. pull me out of the moment

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i don't have access to my phone i don't have

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anything to like i don't have the dogs i can

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just like sit i'm just sitting there taking the

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movies i took so much more from both of these

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films that i just watched like less than two

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weeks ago it was kind of like a first watch again

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just because i was so engaged with both of them

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yeah it was a really interesting scene like what

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does and doesn't get picked up on yeah especially

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with the raising arizona like re -watching comedies

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is always kind of tricky because yeah comedy

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relies so much on like the unexpected and that

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fresh that fresh watch that watching it again

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in that space i'm like i already knew it was

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great i'm like this movie's so much better than

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i like i remembered it being yeah yeah the rest

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of the audience reminds you that everything that

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you know is coming is still funny yeah yeah exactly

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yeah all the john goodman freak out in the car

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stuff that's what it's just like rolling i just

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love just the articulation of people's faces

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and just the way just words are pronounced the

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car ride went after the botched mugging after

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the big chase and she's just losing her shit.

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You son of a bitch. For me, it really was about

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that communal aspect. It just felt more fun or

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interesting. And like I've most of these movies

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I've watched on my fucking computer at one and

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a half speed. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes I

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was watching these movies at normal speed. traumatizing

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it's so slow never get that much of my life a

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90 and a 94 minute movie god damn no it's it's

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really interesting i mean i think that there

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is really something to be said about like having

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great audio and having a big screen you know

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and the properly dimmed room and all that kind

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of stuff it's like that does make those in particular

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pig for me it made that much more powerful in

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a lot of ways yeah because that is a movie that

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is you know all about the environment and the

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scene and setting the light. And, you know, like

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Raising Arizona is basically blown out lighting

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all the time because it's supposed to be. Ever

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talked about the cinematography for Pig? Like

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who that cinematographer was? Probably. One of

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the things I wanted to touch on is like our experience

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in doing this project has changed so much. So

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like back in the beginning, like we did talk

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about that and we talked about that as well as

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we could for three doofuses. Yeah. We're still

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three doofuses. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, we've

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changed a little bit of the tone of how we do

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it. You know, now instead we would talk about

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how salsa on your face looks a lot like getting

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beat up. Yeah. It's very convincing. I believe

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it. I mean, I'm always taken aback by how beautiful

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that film is shot. And just, yeah, seeing it

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on a bigger screen in a theater just really made

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me appreciate those little things so much more.

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Just the shots from like outside windows, just

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the framing devices. It's such a beautiful film.

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I think the theater experience helped me appreciate

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the audio design for Pig a lot more because so

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much of it is reliant on like silence and whatnot,

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which was great. Although one of the best. one

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of the best lines in the movie got laughed over

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i know but i mean so i mean the setup for it

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is still it was funny people who have not heard

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the movie or seen the movie before it's like

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of course you would laugh at that but yeah you

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missed the nick cage fuck seattle line yeah i

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told bill about that over dinner he's like oh

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he's like i live there i'm like yeah i like that

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place yeah uh although every time i go to uh

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the thunderbirds game they do a little hype up

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thingy when things are going well and they play

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that song. That's like, but when they get to

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the like, regardless of who they're playing,

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it's always Portland sucks. Portland sucks. Like

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they were playing Vancouver, Canada one day.

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It's just like, I love it. Everybody, all fans.

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Vancouver, Seattle, Portland sucks. Portland

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sucks. That's amazing. That is amazing. I love

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that. It's one of the best things about going

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to T -Birds games. One of the things that I was

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talking to Ira, patron Ira, who came not to the

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movie itself, but came afterwards to hang out,

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which is great. Yeah, he was helping somebody,

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his in -laws move. Yeah. So he can make it. He's

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a good guy. Yeah. But he was talking about how

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speaking of sound design in Raising Arizona,

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like the yodeling stuff has always been like

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a little just like, OK, this is crazy, you know,

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but he was talking about how it got him really

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into like a certain genre of music. And it was

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that movie that did it. So watching that movie

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yesterday in the theater, it really did matter

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more like that music made more impact for me

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than it has ever had in the past. Also, at one

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and a half speed, it sounds really fucked up.

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You're only into fast yodeling. Yeah, speed yodeling.

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All this slow yodeling. Slow yodeling sounds

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like a sex move. Slow yodeling? I don't like

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that at all. Yeah, slow yodeling does sound like

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a bad sex move. It sounds like something John

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would be good at for some reason. I don't know

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why. Because it involves a hat. Yeah, exactly.

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Silly hat with a little feather. Drop down in

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the comments and let me know what you think slow

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to lean includes. And we'll try to put up a video

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on our Pornhub account. We're getting there.

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It'd be great if this were the one video that

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got like. Got a bunch of engagement. Yeah, right.

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Finally. Finally. This is the one that gets us

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discovered only for them. They have like three

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more non -episodes and then we're gone forever.

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This is when Peter discovers the little tab for

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like, oh, click here to allow comments. Oh, OK.

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Let's do this. Oh, shit. i should have produced

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better uh i do want to talk about that for a

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second uh fucking great job putting this together

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peter oh i thought you were talking about the

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comments it's like yeah let's let's discuss our

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comments let me bring up all three of them yeah

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one of which was very nice yeah no that's fine

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that guy sucks uh but no peter put together a

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great show uh put together i had no idea what

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the in memoriam you were telling us was peter's

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like yeah we're gonna have a little in memoriam

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section i'm like did somebody fucking didn't

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it cage die like i know i don't watch the news

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but i think someone would have told me about

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that probably probably um but no it was a little

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clips from a bunch of the movies that didn't

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make it most of which were contenders at one

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point most and a good chunk that weren't yeah

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like ghostwriter one jujitsu jujitsu adaptation

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never a contender it was never a contender adaptation

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a great film though i still think we need to

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do uh an adaptation primal episode just for just

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for fun i'm kind of into that idea yeah i would

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do it Yeah, I mean, I feel like both of those

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movies deserve a rewatching by me. I said I would

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rewatch Primal. At normal speed? At normal speed.

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I'll do it like a regular person. I said I would

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rewatch Primal. Yeah. Yeah, so stay tuned for

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that. The adaptation Primal is going to be a

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real doozy when we kick adaptation again. That's

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the episode that stops Nick and I from being

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friends. Impossible. We'd have to be friends

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in the first place. Boom. Ooh, snap. Yeah, I

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got there before you. You got smoked. it's loaded

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so got me good oh man yeah no it's fun i feel

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very bittersweet about this entire experience

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right now it's like i put a lot of work and enjoyment

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and annoyance into this you know it's like it's

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been really cool seeing the the turnout and people

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actually caring and all that kind of stuff so

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it's like bittersweet is the only word i really

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think of I will say this process of making this

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podcast with the two of you is. I've never seen

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Peter. I've never seen you more elated. Happy.

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Those are the same word. Just the cackling from.

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Oh, yeah. Next, but also just the most mad I've

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ever seen you just trying to rein us two idiots

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in. I know. I wish I had the raw audio from the

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what was it? Ghostwriter and. oh my god with

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this this one why are you fucking jerking off

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at me uh that one i think we were recording in

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summertime too it was like hot in your old apartment

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they were they were juggling bowling balls upstairs

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yeah everything just was like we kept having

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to stop so i kept drinking yeah the green place

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was just the worst between like the person watching

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tv next door Bridge we had to unplug in order

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to record because it was too loud. Those are

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the good old days. The bad equipment that we

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had to start with. The super squeaky benches.

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Yep. Hayden just sometimes coming home. Yeah.

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And then having to be like, Hayden, go sit in

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your room quietly. Make no noise. Yeah, we've

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got the living room today. And then bad episodes

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don't always get recorded from Hayden's room.

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That's right. He was a perfect storm of shit

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for that episode. I love how his furniture included

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his bed. Expensive computer chair, but no desk.

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Yeah. Or computer. Or computer. So you know what

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that chair was for. Cucking. Expensive computer

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cuck chair. but yeah it's been interesting the

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process you know we've jumped around to lots

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of different locations you've moved away like

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having to deal with different technology challenges

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all sorts of shit it's like it's been it's been

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a lot to learn but it's been really i would i

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would say rewarding for the most part yeah yeah

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cut down the setup time for remote people to

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a pretty reasonable yeah three or four mistakes

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i mostly remember the process now uh yeah having

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not had to thought think about that aspect of

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it for a while just staring over a pool of wires

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be like what goes where yeah exactly i know these

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go in things and we never just thought to write

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it down nope that would have been the coward's

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way yeah let's do uh before we actually get into

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voting on these two movies let's do just sort

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of a retrospective like what's like something

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really fun, stupid, memorable, anything that

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you've had in this process that you maybe just

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want to speak on. I've enjoyed, especially in

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the early days, like listening to the sheen of

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like, we made a thing still like going on and

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not having listeners yet. So like our numbers

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were us. Yeah. I mean, kind of. Yeah. But just

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like listening to like. and again i was drinking

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at this point still i mean i don't fucking remember

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the shit i say on this no matter what but there

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were definitely times where like i'd be listening

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to an episode of ours and i would listen to it

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i'm like i should have said this that would have

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been funny and then five seconds later passion

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went polydickle my god it yes so just appreciating

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just being able to appreciate me yeah oh pass

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me our dumbassery and our friendship in like

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a tangible way where i'm like now we like i can

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go back and listen to peter lose his shit over

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fucking next whenever i want and it's such a

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nice memory to actually have captured yeah i

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think that's a good that's a good way to think

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about it i mean for me i think a piece of it

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is that sort of archival aspect like even though

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my computer got stolen that one time and i lost

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a bunch of shit that i've done like all the art

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still exists that's going to exist in some sort

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of internet archive probably forever until the

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internet archives meltdown into the ocean there

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is a small but a very real possibility that this

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could end up someday in the library of congress

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fuck yes i am really excited for when my brain

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inevitably goes and i'm like fucking just in

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a shitty retirement home like just babbling to

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myself listening to episodes of us talking yeah

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and me just talking back that'll be uncomfortable

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for everyone it'll be really weird when you actually

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sync it up exactly and you start just knowing

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all the words yeah and you've got stand -in old

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people to sit down and pretend to be me and peter

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and then you just say the lines at them and then

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they just drool yeah yeah perfect love it just

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like us yeah Yeah, what about you, Nick? You

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know, I really appreciate that this podcast has

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ignited a love of Nicolas Cage films in me because

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this was something like, I don't know, when we

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first started this out, I had maybe seen seven

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Nicolas Cage films total. Yeah, I was pretty

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similar. I think I had seen Raising Arizona,

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Con Air, Face Off, The Rock. guarding Tess of

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all things and then maybe one more and I couldn't

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even tell you what it would have been yeah Amos

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and Andrew yeah I mean there's something I mean

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because yeah when I pitched this idea as mostly

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just like this would be a funny bit I yeah I'd

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seen maybe like five or six Nick Cage movies

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my understanding of Nick Cage was just the jokes

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of like you know He's a bad actor in good movies.

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Like, is he secretly a genius? Like, Nick Cage

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is bad. And we've watched most of his films now,

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and he leaves it all on the table. Out of most

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of the movies I've seen, I can think of maybe

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two movies where I don't think he fucking cared

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at all. I think in most cases, he's trying something,

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and he's putting something in there. I'm like,

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I can say I think he's a great actor in a world

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that doesn't appreciate him. It's the rest of

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our fault. my turn on that is just uh yeah he's

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a good actor who makes questionable judgment

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like in how he performs yeah i mean i think that

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at least he usually gives it his all yeah i mean

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there are a couple of those movies that you know

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the left behinds of it all where it's just like

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oh boy this is really just you needed some money

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yeah yeah but just doing this for the brother

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yeah then he got some of those where it seems

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like he was doing it for the money but also was

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like but wait they kind of need me i get to do

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weird shit now yeah which is great well like

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i'm what i've heard of gunslinger so far my assumption

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is and this is like the same with like jujitsu

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it's like he's there to get his name on a poster

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so they just bring him in they're just like do

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whatever you want we don't care you're literally

00:21:06.700 --> 00:21:10.319
we're paying for your name so those types of

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performances are the most fun for me yeah yeah

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i agree with that i you know not to get ahead

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of it but i'm looking forward to re -watching

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gunslingers before we record so i'm excited to

00:21:22.900 --> 00:21:25.980
watch it i will also watch it again i will definitely

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be less inebriated than i was the first time

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i watched it well so i think we can we can kind

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of move into the actual voting aspect of this

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now but i think one of the things that i'm really

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pleased with from this experiment because looking

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at it at first it was like great idea we'll watch

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all these movies and it'll you know whittle them

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down and then it was like oh my god fuck we watch

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these movies like a bunch yeah each of these

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movies that goes the distance gets watched six

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times in our timeline minimum yeah minimum yeah

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so and that's yeah not counting any of the re

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-watchings that you guys did any of the stuff

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like clip at you know cutting clips from stuff

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any of that you know it's like that's a lot yeah

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that's a lot but it did prove out in my mind

00:22:03.579 --> 00:22:07.569
the the theory that like these are the Best movies

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because you can watch them forever. Like you

00:22:11.730 --> 00:22:13.170
can just keep watching it. You know, a lot of

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people have said, oh, yeah, I've watched Raising

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Arizona like 50 times. Yeah. Yeah. So I think

00:22:18.289 --> 00:22:21.329
that we did kind of accidentally prove our point,

00:22:21.369 --> 00:22:25.410
you know? Yeah. Without science, you know, trying

00:22:25.410 --> 00:22:28.970
too hard. Yeah. Or well, too much. Yeah. Without

00:22:28.970 --> 00:22:32.289
the thought involved in science, we managed to

00:22:32.289 --> 00:22:35.029
science this out. Yeah. And that's good. Good

00:22:35.029 --> 00:22:39.930
for us. it's been a real a real thing like the

00:22:39.930 --> 00:22:43.509
the fatigue that you feel in some films uh wasn't

00:22:43.509 --> 00:22:45.690
necessarily present in the keys which is great

00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:48.109
yeah and i mean we just we just did the final

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four a week ago yeah a week and a half so i rewatch

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i like i'm re -watching these movies in the same

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month right within two weeks of each other i've

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like sat down and watched both these movies through

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and i'm like these still are great like i was

00:23:02.349 --> 00:23:06.829
enjoying every moment of these films neat i'm

00:23:06.829 --> 00:23:08.869
just gonna start speeding up that timeline just

00:23:08.869 --> 00:23:11.369
start watching pig and raising arizona every

00:23:11.369 --> 00:23:14.509
like other day and then every day and then always

00:23:14.509 --> 00:23:19.869
kind of like how i listen to how do i live yeah

00:23:19.869 --> 00:23:22.650
exactly i'm gonna get like special glasses that

00:23:22.650 --> 00:23:25.380
can project one movie on each lens. Will they

00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:29.900
be little crosses? Absolutely. And I'll start

00:23:29.900 --> 00:23:32.819
talking like this. I don't get this reference

00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:37.279
yet. Oh, you're going to love it though. So,

00:23:37.339 --> 00:23:39.180
you know, it's never really mattered for us when

00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:41.720
we've done the decision -making process, but

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we did have everyone in the audience vote using

00:23:44.180 --> 00:23:47.599
little bunnies that they had to put into a box.

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This is your moment people. Yeah. So what was

00:23:51.099 --> 00:23:54.690
the final tally? So the final tally for the people

00:23:54.690 --> 00:23:57.109
who voted and didn't steal the bunnies. Yeah,

00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:59.250
there were some abstentions. Which is fine. I

00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:02.430
respect their choice to steal. They voted for

00:24:02.430 --> 00:24:07.470
Conair. I respect that more. Was we had 19 votes

00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:14.769
for Raising Arizona and 20 votes for Pig. So

00:24:14.769 --> 00:24:17.210
it was wildly close. All those people who held

00:24:17.210 --> 00:24:19.529
out but really thought Raising Arizona was the

00:24:19.529 --> 00:24:22.910
better one. You lost the chance to make the majority.

00:24:23.329 --> 00:24:26.069
Yeah, for real. All it would have taken. Well,

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:28.849
now, because I don't want to be told what to

00:24:28.849 --> 00:24:33.509
do, I feel like I should go for a zero. You got

00:24:33.509 --> 00:24:36.519
to do what your conscience tells you. Yeah. fuck

00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.680
it primal yeah primal primal primal all the way

00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:45.259
baby great white jag you need to cut the podcast

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right just dead air dead air patreon yeah no

00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.880
no outro nothing it's like done primal this one's

00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.640
for you stewart yeah uh michael and over the

00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:58.759
course of the next five years michael will finally

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listen to this podcast and get to the last episode

00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:05.250
it's kind of the equivalent of like It was all

00:25:05.250 --> 00:25:09.690
a dream. Yeah. Going into this, I was so sure

00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:14.170
that like Pig was like just a solid. It's Pig.

00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:16.990
It's got to be Pig. But again, getting that fresh

00:25:16.990 --> 00:25:19.150
watch of Raising Arizona in that space, like

00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:21.950
where I'm just locked in and I'm enjoying it.

00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:24.529
This movie is so great. It stood the test of

00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:27.470
time so well and it will continue to. And it

00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:31.529
is so approachable and perfect. And everyone's

00:25:31.529 --> 00:25:34.410
performance is outstanding. that just the whole

00:25:34.410 --> 00:25:37.029
time i'm watching i'm like it might be a reason

00:25:37.029 --> 00:25:40.849
yeah racing arizona also get elevated pretty

00:25:40.849 --> 00:25:43.890
hard just by being in the theater i think that's

00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:47.549
one that benefited a lot from the larger format

00:25:47.549 --> 00:25:53.470
whereas pig you can really interact with it almost

00:25:53.470 --> 00:25:56.990
to the same level in a home situation yeah i

00:25:56.990 --> 00:26:00.029
agree with that as uh the the cinema experience

00:26:01.550 --> 00:26:03.910
which was still terrific to see it in. I mean,

00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:05.589
like you said, and like you said with Pig, like

00:26:05.589 --> 00:26:08.250
those comedic moments stand out a lot more when

00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:11.109
you're in a room. So being able to enjoy that,

00:26:11.210 --> 00:26:14.670
enjoy a comedy with people like that was elevated

00:26:14.670 --> 00:26:18.190
Raising Arizona a lot more in my mind. Yeah.

00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:22.049
Well, why don't you go first, Sean? Tell me what

00:26:22.049 --> 00:26:27.160
you think and I'll take the opposite. Classic

00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.019
Cage match. I'll explain it poorly and just really

00:26:30.019 --> 00:26:33.339
get you angry. Super classic Cage match. I think

00:26:33.339 --> 00:26:38.039
of this entire experiment, the best thing I'm

00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.660
taking away from this is Pig. I love that movie.

00:26:40.819 --> 00:26:45.140
Huge respect for Nicolas Cage, giving that performance

00:26:45.140 --> 00:26:48.400
when he did in his career. And the fact that

00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.299
that movie, more than I think most of the stuff

00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:53.259
he's done in 20 years, really shows. those chops

00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:55.559
like he is that still that amazing character

00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.660
actor and when he is given the right material

00:26:57.660 --> 00:27:00.339
and a love for the material he just disappears

00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:05.059
into that role and he is the world's greatest

00:27:05.059 --> 00:27:06.940
actor because he can still do stuff like that

00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:10.960
raising arizona's classic raising arizona is

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damn near a perfect movie and i love it so much

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and getting that fresh watch i really sells me

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like that's that's his best film like for this

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like that's the most rewatchable film That's,

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well, like I said, Pig's my favorite film, but

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Raising Arizona is his best. I'm inclined to

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agree that Raising Arizona against every bone

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in my body. Wow, we really just have to commit

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to this video. No, I agree. Raising Arizona is

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.279
like the epitome of a Nicolas Cage film. It's

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.019
got just. big choice performance it's got a great

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:56.220
character it's acted out phenomenally um great

00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:59.559
direction great script everything uh it's fucking

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nines all over the place is that what people

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say nines dimes fucking it's good skibbity toilet

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um and pig is a beautiful film with great sentiments

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and Terrific performance and will always be something

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.140
that. I enjoy raising Arizona for sure. For me

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is the choice in this. It's like you said, it's

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a near perfect film. Yeah. Right on. I mean,

00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.920
I disagree with you guys, but whatever. We're

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solidly back into a position where your opinion

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doesn't matter. I know it's great. So I love

00:28:40.339 --> 00:28:42.220
not having the pressure of this. We're going

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to go with the minority vote. No, I think from

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the beginning for me, Pig was always my favorite.

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It shouldn't have been a surprise because it's

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rated well. Everybody loves that movie when they

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see it. It really did surprise me how much I

00:28:54.769 --> 00:28:56.869
like it and how much I still want to rewatch

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it. But I totally am fine with Raising Arizona.

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I think it's a great movie. I enjoyed it every

00:29:02.269 --> 00:29:05.309
single time I've watched it more. So, you know,

00:29:05.309 --> 00:29:08.569
each experience has grown for me, even though

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I still would prefer Pig to be the winner. But

00:29:10.650 --> 00:29:12.990
yeah, Raising Arizona, great movie. Yeah, I'm

00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:16.170
going to just... the nick cage of it all when

00:29:16.170 --> 00:29:18.569
you think of nick cage when you think of those

00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:20.829
performances that really have made him the name

00:29:20.829 --> 00:29:24.769
he is hi mcdonough is definitely up there and

00:29:24.769 --> 00:29:30.450
just it's so good yeah yeah the nick cage of

00:29:30.450 --> 00:29:33.309
it all yeah you know the whole reason we started

00:29:33.309 --> 00:29:38.069
this yeah exactly all right fuck yeah raising

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arizona Good work, Coen brothers from 1987. Right?

00:29:41.299 --> 00:29:44.019
Yeah. You stumbled into something nice. Yeah.

00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.559
Well, yeah. Do you have any final thoughts? Thank

00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.099
you, everybody who came on this ride with us

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and encouraged our chicanery for this long. Yeah.

00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.559
Or at least not just straight up canceled us.

00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.759
Yeah. And thanks to all of our guests. Peter,

00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.619
list out all of our guests. In order. Okay. I

00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:07.559
actually can do that. Yes. Oric. Eric. Gary and

00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.859
Rox. Meredith and their brother Evan. And speaking

00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:14.759
of siblings, Alex and Sammy, Shay, my brother

00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:19.680
Phillip, Marissa, Daryl Edge, John, Josh, Jimmy

00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.960
Harad, Brandon, Derek and Ryan of the Coming

00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.700
of Cage podcast, Josh and Rich of the Nick Cage

00:30:25.700 --> 00:30:30.079
Fight podcast, Petros, Alex Guy, Linda, Donnie

00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.200
and Adrian of Cage's Kiss podcast, Seth, Brian

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.519
Kim McCormick, Chris Koffel, Ian, Lunchbox, Lauren

00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.950
Freeman, Tank, Alec, Ross, Carlos, and of course,

00:30:42.009 --> 00:30:45.029
Hornquack. But yeah, no, I mean, all our guests,

00:30:45.029 --> 00:30:46.450
it was awesome. It was a very fun experience

00:30:46.450 --> 00:30:48.109
to have that. I think that's one of my favorite

00:30:48.109 --> 00:30:51.490
takeaways is the guesting on here really changed

00:30:51.490 --> 00:30:53.650
our game. Not having to just talk to us. Yeah.

00:30:53.769 --> 00:30:56.990
Yeah. I mean, the guests really helped with this.

00:30:56.990 --> 00:31:00.950
Yeah. And I appreciate all of them. Me too. Thank

00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:03.410
you all for coming on this trip with us. Yeah.

00:31:03.509 --> 00:31:05.630
And, you know, special thanks to our patrons.

00:31:05.769 --> 00:31:07.789
I'm really amazed that you guys supported us

00:31:07.789 --> 00:31:10.269
this entire time. To our Sparkle Buddies, Josh,

00:31:10.390 --> 00:31:13.410
Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam, Bill, and Stuart.

00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:16.549
Right at the end. Thank you, Stuart. Stuart.

00:31:16.690 --> 00:31:20.670
Stuart. To our Gage Dancers, Ira, John, Freeman,

00:31:20.769 --> 00:31:24.380
Lance, Nathan, and Cameron. It was awesome celebrating

00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:25.660
with the people who could come to the movie.

00:31:26.339 --> 00:31:29.359
And we're not done making content. There's stuff

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.279
that's going to come out still. They've got bonus

00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.039
episodes. He's got movies coming out. He's got

00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.900
movies. He's got shows. You'll get surprise drops

00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:39.180
occasionally. We've got older films to talk about,

00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:43.259
too. Yeah. So we're not gone. But we are forgotten.

00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:47.200
We're just done arguing in the same format. Yeah,

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.759
correct. No more. No more voting. Yeah. Now we

00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.950
get to just enjoy things. For fun. Gross. Yeah.

00:31:56.150 --> 00:32:00.430
All right. Well, thanks. Sean. Nick. Badass.

00:32:00.509 --> 00:32:03.829
We did it. B -A -D. Yeah. Slow to us out of here.

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Bye. Bye. Rosie, come here. You're going to go

00:32:31.490 --> 00:32:33.349
to the bathroom. You're going to whine in there,

00:32:33.430 --> 00:32:39.430
but just don't bark, okay? Famous last words.

00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:44.150
Yeah. That's what I say to all my dates, too.

00:32:44.569 --> 00:32:46.490
You're going in the bathroom. You can whine,

00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:53.289
but don't bark. No barking. Yeah, how many dogs

00:32:53.289 --> 00:32:59.089
got bit at Pete's house? Fucking... Benjamin

00:32:59.089 --> 00:33:02.089
Franklin Gates and Ozzy just bite each other's

00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:04.809
faces. Yeah, that's what they do. Dog makeouts.

00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:10.309
Touching tongues. It's an intimate moment. Yeah,

00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:14.349
that they do on other people's laps. Yeah, do

00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:17.750
that in private, you fucking pervs. Yeah. Ozzy

00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:19.769
can't help it. He's got that St. Helens in him.

00:33:21.369 --> 00:33:23.950
I know the feeling. I'm about to start biting

00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:25.150
faces and licking mouths.
