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Oh, God.

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Oh, my God.

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Look at how big my beer is.

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Oh, it's so big.

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I mean, compared to your head, which is ginormous,

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that's a big bear.

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At 32 ounces.

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Whoo.

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I just went and had

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happy hour dinner and drinks with my coworker,

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Alyssa, and we went to.

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I mean, you know, since we're going to talk about pig today,

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this is kind of fitting because we went to like

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get fancy oysters and like fancy expensive food on happy hour

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that I generally can't afford.

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You went highfalutin.

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Yeah, they had a really juicy like fucking White Castle Burger,

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the steam burger

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with like gourmet cheese.

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Did it give you gourmet shits like a White Castle Burger?

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We'll see. Only true form.

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Yeah, exactly.

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If we have to stop halfway through the podcast.

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This is this podcast is now an unofficial race your body competition.

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Now, the question is, were the little burgers, were they square?

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Yes. Oh, OK.

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Did they have the holes in them?

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No, but it was steamed.

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It was a cowards.

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I do love a steamed ham.

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I like when I ordered it because it was like the steamed burger

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and I was getting like we were getting oysters and I was like, I'm like,

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is this a Simpsons reference?

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And then when I when they brought it out, I'm like, wait, no, White Castle.

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This makes sense now.

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What's the name of the joint you went to?

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Canard.

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This does sound highfalutin.

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But no, it was it was super fancy.

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They had the cheapest pens, though, like Alyssa and I both got our bills

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and neither of our pens worked.

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I respect the attention to craft.

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And then the second place we went, they had a fondue.

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And I'm like, oh, fun.

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Don't mind if I do.

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Exactly.

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And they did not bring us little plates.

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So I was precariously balancing dripping like hot cheese over my dress.

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I'm like, this is this is less than ideal.

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I'm going to leave an angry review on Yelp that no one will read.

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Oh, that's weak.

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You should have just let it drip and then use the bottom of the dress

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to like wipe your face, showing everybody your Johnson.

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Yeah, that's leveling up.

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I mean, I'm wearing undergarments.

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Coward, coward.

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It's not a kilt.

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It's also as Nick and I had discussed previously to you getting on Peter.

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It's fucking cold down here.

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You mean in your nether region or?

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Yes.

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Cold from inattention.

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If I weren't wearing if I weren't wearing leggings

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and I decided to give everyone a show, they wouldn't.

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It would have been trivial.

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There wouldn't have been much to say.

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Not if that hand the waiter had gotten in there.

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Soft waiter hands.

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Yeah. That tip don't come cheap.

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Monetary tip. My tip comes cheap.

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I'm a cheap.

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Yeah. Thank you for clarifying.

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All right. Pig it is pig wins next episode.

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OK, good. Thanks, guys.

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Glad we postponed until today.

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I have stuff to say.

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I saved something new up in here for when we talk about Joe.

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And we'll see if I remember it.

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I had I had thoughts about

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both of these movies in regards to Nicholas Cage.

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I mean, that is what do we do here, Sean?

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Welcome back to KG.

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Matt Carlin around about Nicholas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick

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and our producer Peter. Hello.

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And this week might be the best setup to that bit we've ever done.

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Yeah, actually.

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I mean, I mean, it is I guess giving like the thesis,

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which we should do anyway, and don't most of the time.

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I'm hey, last episode, I didn't get into this till like the back 20 minutes.

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Yeah, I liked it. It was good.

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Yeah. Hey, I'm impressed that it only took us almost three years

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to figure out how a podcast works.

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And we're almost done.

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I mean, we have most of it figured out.

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You need microphones, I guess, headphones.

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They're called cans in the business, Peter.

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Love a good can.

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I do, too.

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I've got a folded towel, you know, just sitting here

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at the ready, the waiter comes. Yeah.

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So I can put it over my waist for, you know, discretion.

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Yeah, it's modest. Yeah.

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I'm not fucking Peewee Herman out here.

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It's like that.

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It's like that's something that baby

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that you have to eat like with a sheet over your head to hide your shame.

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Oh, yeah. The or to lawn. Yeah.

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I know fancy food stuff.

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Have you guys ever seen a duck press?

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A duck breast.

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Press P.R.E.S.S.

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I'm like I'm imagining like a wine press, like a great press,

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but for just with a bunch of ducks in it.

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You like cook a duck and then you put it into this like medieval torture device

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that has like a whole bunch of screws and like cranks.

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And then it crushes and pulverizes the duck into a goo.

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And then you I can't I think you cook it somehow more than that,

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but I don't remember what else gets added to it.

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And then you eat that.

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It's like you. You had me at goo.

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So it's like a shittier panini press.

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God,

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the press is already.

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Yeah. But what if you could

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liquefy your panini and eat it that way?

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That be that might be an upgrade, honestly, to a panini.

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That's just like how many of us have owned a panini press?

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I've owned a George Foreman.

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I mean, if you count a George Foreman grill

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and then you just put a book on top of it and that's a panini press.

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Yeah.

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But can Hornback once told me that every like every sandwich should be paninied

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a panini press makes every sandwich better.

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And like the panini is the ultimate sandwich.

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I'm like, do you have a panini press?

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I'm like, and he said yes.

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And I'm like, how many times have you used it?

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He's like once I'm like, that's everyone who's ever owned a panini press.

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Yeah. I mean, I think you could make a case

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that like a toasted sandwich is potentially superior.

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OK, hold on.

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I want to say that Hornback using a kitchen appliance

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even once validates his existence.

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Nothing validates his existence.

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Not his the panini press. Sorry.

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The panini press. Yeah.

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Was it this podcast or just a general

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chicanery when we came up with the panini press?

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That seems like an orc.

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It was not.

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It was not this podcast, but it does seem like an orc.

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It's to get the ridges.

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So on this podcast, we talk about Nicolas Cage movies.

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Obviously, we started with a bracket of 64 films,

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narrowed it down to 32, then the slicks teen.

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Now we're in the master eight.

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But you got to say it faster. The master eight.

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I don't get it.

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The waiter does.

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Ah, there we go.

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This week, we are discussing Pig V.

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Joe, two movies that have three letters in the name.

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And Beards.

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He's got a he's got a sidekick.

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He does have a sidekick in both.

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It is kind of like a buddy movie in both cases.

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And they both start star Nicolas Cage.

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You know, it's kind of sad that I immediately just

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I didn't think of a mirror.

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I thought you were referring to handpan

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as his kid sidekick.

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You know, that kid who was in the movie for one scene.

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I do love handpan.

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What's a persimmon?

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You fucking dumb kid.

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Yeah.

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Parents don't teach you anything anymore.

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I still maintain that kid's going to wind up on a fucking bill card in one day.

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Yeah, I mean, the total lack of stranger danger is pretty troubling.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, if a dude's in your backyard, he must be OK to talk to, though,

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because why else would he be in your backyard?

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I come across my fair share of unhoused people in the city, and

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generally, they've all been quite polite.

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There's only been one guy.

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There's only been one guy.

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He came in hot.

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I got to a bar after a dinner thing, and pretty much as soon as I got in there,

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the bar backslash bouncer just like ran into the bar,

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like a lock in it behind him and like this other guy just like him

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and like just slammed his hand against the glass and was like holding a

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Where's Waldo book up to it?

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Because he was excited about finding Waldo.

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I don't know. We were told the guy has a knife.

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He likes to show it to people and they're like, we're just not dealing with it

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tonight. We're all like, they're not fair at all.

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Yeah, I think that's a reasonable choice.

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I want to see the knife, but I really I want to see if they found Waldo.

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Oh, it's just that dickhead who circles Waldo and Sharpie on every page.

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That shit bugs me.

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Do it at the dentist's office.

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Like, here you go, fuckers.

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Yeah, we all we all know that Nick was more of an odd lot.

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I do love odd law.

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I also love finding the wizard.

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What was the dog's name?

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Wall dog dog.

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Wait, say yours again, Sean.

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Dog down.

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I don't think that's a good word.

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Yeah, obviously, it's a dill dog.

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Now you're thinking of the dog from Dilbert.

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Wolf, his name was Wolf.

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That doesn't follow convention.

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Dill dog. It does not.

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What was Lady Waldo?

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Wenda. Yeah, that's rough.

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I'm pretty sure Waldo and Wenda are the same person.

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Waldo does have kind of an its pat sort of vibe.

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Yeah, I'm looking at I'm looking at a side by side right now.

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I mean, I'm the last person that can, you know,

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fucking throw stones in this in regards to this.

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Yeah, for real.

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I think I found our next Halloween costume group.

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Halloween costume.

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Make it a solo costume and just keep leaving the room and changing.

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It always bugs me when large groups of people all dress up as Waldo

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to go out on Halloween.

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No, you all dress up as almost Waldo.

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You have one person dressed fully as Waldo.

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But everybody wants to be Waldo, then

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only one person gets to be Waldo, then.

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Yeah, that's the bit.

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Well, I don't think I want to do this costume with you.

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All right. Let's just all go as a hornback.

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I do want to do that costume.

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I want to be two hornbacks in a horse costume.

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We have to both show up as horse butts.

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Yes.

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I love this movie.

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I absolutely adore this movie.

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Still, to this day,

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I don't I don't have much else to say about it other than it's great.

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It continues to be great.

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Yeah. One of these days, I want to try.

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I mean, this doesn't have to be anything, but I just want to make the food from pig.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a great idea.

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If it makes it to the the final two,

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we should have that be served at the movie theater. Sure.

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But only one item, Amir's disappointing French toast.

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It's like, sorry, I don't cook much.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Set off the set off the smoke detector.

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I was just going to bring one.

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I'll take a baguette.

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Yeah, actually.

258
00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:29,420
So the journey of pig, it first went up against left behind.

259
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Left behind.

260
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Maybe we got that one wrong.

261
00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:36,760
No, we did not.

262
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That movie is so terrible.

263
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I was thinking about that because I was re listening to the episode.

264
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And the only thing that was funny about that was that

265
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Nick got to make a lot of left behind jokes.

266
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And she was left behind.

267
00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,500
Oh, yeah, that that never gets old.

268
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I, you know, honestly, I like thinking back on left behind,

269
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like all the weird piles of clothes and like the way she like

270
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took her brother's clothes and backpack and was like carrying it around.

271
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Like it was going to rehydrate into him or some shit.

272
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Yeah. And like all the clothes, like falling out of the sky

273
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in the mall or whatever, like as if everybody was like,

274
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Oh, I'm getting raptured.

275
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Now is the time for me to jump off this like sky bridge

276
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and like, Oh, pants.

277
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Woohoo.

278
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It's raining pants.

279
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I just think it's the parents who really didn't like those kids.

280
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And all of a sudden, these kids are gone and they're celebrating.

281
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They're just like, yes.

282
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They chuck the stuff in the.

283
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Yeah. Fuck your pants, dad.

284
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I'm just thinking about how

285
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detrimental actual Christians

286
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who aren't assholes that would actually get raptured.

287
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And I don't think it's as many as Thanos's snap would take out.

288
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I don't think the economy will.

289
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It's definitely not 50 percent of the world, so.

290
00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,320
Yeah, that's a pretty high.

291
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Plus, his snap was universal.

292
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Yeah, but we're America.

293
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We don't care about that.

294
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America first.

295
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We always get raptured.

296
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What if God had it wrong

297
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or like had a speech impediment and instead of rapturing everybody,

298
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he raptured everybody and we all got turned into raptors.

299
00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,220
This is a Chuck Tingle situation.

300
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I am 100 percent here for that religion.

301
00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:37,920
We've just you have just invented a new religion.

302
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,200
Guys, Chuck Tingle is going to be at Emerald City Comic Con this year.

303
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,840
So if you need to like go meet Chuck Tingle.

304
00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,980
That's the time to do it.

305
00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:52,400
Love is real.

306
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That's what he says.

307
00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:59,520
I think I've only listened to his podcast once or twice.

308
00:13:59,780 --> 00:14:02,420
It's pretty hilarious.

309
00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:04,860
So let's see, what is your favorite meal from Pig?

310
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,520
Maybe the shitty takeout food that he gives to Edgar.

311
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,980
I don't know that.

312
00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:13,560
What was that thing he made that in the first one?

313
00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,020
The result of the rustic tart.

314
00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:16,920
It does look pretty good.

315
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,800
Yeah, that looks that looks pretty good.

316
00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,060
I want that.

317
00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,040
Yeah, I don't want to have to like live in a dirty cabin to make it.

318
00:14:24,260 --> 00:14:26,400
Like if I can just make them at home, that'd be great.

319
00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,180
Wouldn't be rustic.

320
00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:30,240
I mean, you could just start a fire in your courtyard and cook it out there.

321
00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,180
You do have to have hands washed only loosely in a river.

322
00:14:35,180 --> 00:14:38,220
Soaps overrated.

323
00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:40,620
That's all the friction.

324
00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:41,720
I have an immune system.

325
00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,680
Get that waiter over here.

326
00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,380
What's it good for if I'm not putting it to work every once in a while?

327
00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:46,080
Need me some friction.

328
00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,160
Yeah. You need that.

329
00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,420
That farmer friend.

330
00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,960
Yeah, those callous hands will just blast the dirt right off.

331
00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:58,000
I need your help starting a fire.

332
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,540
Yeah, just rub this stick between your palms.

333
00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:05,140
Oh, yeah, I just.

334
00:15:05,140 --> 00:15:08,580
One of those until just sparks.

335
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,320
Let's see.

336
00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,560
So it one of the things left behind the frozen ground and eight millimeters.

337
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,660
Frozen ground.

338
00:15:19,660 --> 00:15:20,360
Rest in ground is.

339
00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,660
Yeah, that wasn't too bad for like

340
00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:26,300
just a Nicolas Cage, quote unquote, thriller or whatever.

341
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,940
Like in retrospect, it's like maybe a C plus as a film goes.

342
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,960
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

343
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,180
But in terms of things that got eliminated, it wasn't that bad.

344
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,940
No, it was pretty decent overall.

345
00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:42,280
And I mean, it did have 50 Cent in the wig, which is.

346
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,380
Oh, hell yeah.

347
00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:45,020
I forgot about that.

348
00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:47,820
I mean, eight millimeter really.

349
00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:51,680
I mean, we talked about this got by as far as it did because of its matchups.

350
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,160
Not that it doesn't deserve to be remembered fondly, but.

351
00:15:55,860 --> 00:16:00,000
Yeah, I actually it kind of has grown on me in retrospect to like

352
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,660
I think you guys liked it more than I did.

353
00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:04,840
And I've thought about that movie more than I thought that I would.

354
00:16:05,860 --> 00:16:10,040
Yeah, it's a I, you know, I still enjoy eight millimeter.

355
00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880
It's one that I would rewatch.

356
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,920
In the right mood, but

357
00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:20,720
which I don't know what the mood is for watching.

358
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,760
You got to be in a Dino Dino velvet.

359
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,620
Yeah, I got to want to hear like a lot of background,

360
00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:28,820
a effects twin and whatnot.

361
00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:33,560
I mean, so what's interesting to me is like Pig, obviously, is a very good movie.

362
00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,000
It's well regarded by everybody.

363
00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,460
It's very well regarded by us.

364
00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:40,480
It wasn't like a surprise necessarily, even though I think it's a surprise

365
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,700
that we loved it as much as we did.

366
00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:44,640
And that sort of grew over time.

367
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,540
I think that its path to this point has been kind of easy.

368
00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:50,320
Yeah, but.

369
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,860
It's also good, so clearly it deserved.

370
00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:57,080
It was what, like a one seed for us.

371
00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,080
Yeah. Yeah.

372
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,740
So it's the only one seed left in the race.

373
00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:04,420
Yeah, correct. Yeah.

374
00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:10,060
It hasn't had any challenges up until theoretically this week.

375
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,560
Yeah.

376
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,400
Joe. Yeah, Joe was much more hard fought to get here

377
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,500
because Joe went up against some like good things.

378
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,200
Joe's path was tough.

379
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,540
I mean, I'm biased because I thought Zanderle was.

380
00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:25,540
I love Zanderle.

381
00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:29,040
Not saying Zanderle isn't great.

382
00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:31,480
Didn't deserve to go forward.

383
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,040
No, it didn't deserve to go forward over.

384
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,620
Joe. There's no world where Zanderle comes out, came out of this on top.

385
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,960
Yeah. Just like in that movie.

386
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,960
I don't think Zanderle was a top at all.

387
00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:43,660
But remember Steve Buscemi? Yeah.

388
00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:44,460
And then.

389
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,000
I forgot. I forgot.

390
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,760
I was forgetting that movie.

391
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,540
Kind of like in Conair. Boo.

392
00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:56,080
I can't make a make an argument for him in Zanderle.

393
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560
I think he's just in it for some reason.

394
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160
Yeah, he's just like a guy on a work crew.

395
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,160
Pretty much right.

396
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,200
No, he's on like work release or something.

397
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,460
And then he runs away.

398
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:07,960
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

399
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,160
Steals the TV.

400
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,160
Yeah.

401
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,160
Maybe it's Garland Green.

402
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,600
Maybe it's Garland Green.

403
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,140
So yeah, Zanderle and then it went up against bringing out the dead.

404
00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:20,140
And then.

405
00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:21,640
Great movie. Yeah, totally.

406
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,640
And then leaving Las Vegas.

407
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,640
Also great movie.

408
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,080
Also a movie that you have to be in a really specific mindset to watch.

409
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,960
Yeah, I mean, I stand by the decision to have Joe go over that one.

410
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,560
I think it's a great movie in general, but mostly because of the performance.

411
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,460
You know, like I just don't want to watch that movie ever again.

412
00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:41,460
Oh, my God. If I never have to hear Sting

413
00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:45,460
start that damn song and never finish it.

414
00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,460
That is sort of his M.O.

415
00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:50,460
Oh, man.

416
00:18:50,460 --> 00:18:52,440
Never stop, never stopping.

417
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,940
Fucking sting with his non-complete agreements.

418
00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:00,440
Yeah. How was watching Joe?

419
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,940
How was watching Joe again this time?

420
00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,440
I really liked it. Like I said, oh, I did notice.

421
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:10,920
Did did you guys ever acknowledge how fucking short that other cop is in the background?

422
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:17,420
Like when Earl is releasing Joe and Sting,

423
00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:22,700
and then there was a cop bringing in another guy, he's like five foot flat.

424
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:24,940
Like this guy is fucking small.

425
00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:30,400
Oh, man. Now I want to watch like kind of in the scene.

426
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,280
And then you see him in the background, like booking somebody

427
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,580
and he looks like a bald child.

428
00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:40,720
Holy shit, that guy is really short.

429
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,420
He's like the guy he's escorting is like three feet taller than him.

430
00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:49,060
Oh, dip. Yeah.

431
00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,160
Yeah, that guy is tiny.

432
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,400
I mean, what was the director on Joe again?

433
00:19:56,340 --> 00:19:57,900
David Gordon Green.

434
00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:02,100
I mean, he does have that thing for just like extras, just being, you know.

435
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:04,980
Oh, yeah.

436
00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:06,720
It's pretty interesting.

437
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,920
I really like that about him.

438
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,220
And I mean, I think things have changed because now he's like directing

439
00:20:10,220 --> 00:20:13,460
the Halloween series and stuff like that, which is sort of strange.

440
00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:17,960
But his original like take was basically like

441
00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:22,100
slices of Americana and real life people and sort of like

442
00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:24,960
the normal version of David Lynch.

443
00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:28,340
How big is his head?

444
00:20:28,340 --> 00:20:31,740
Not that big. Oh.

445
00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:35,100
I mean, the thing that always stands out

446
00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:39,540
in this movie to me is just the physicality of Nicholas Cage in this film.

447
00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:41,680
He is a fucking brick shithouse.

448
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,960
He looks natural at that size.

449
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,820
Yeah, I agree.

450
00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:48,300
I remember the point I was going to make earlier that I completely forgot.

451
00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:49,200
It's just like.

452
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,160
There's always that like view of like Nicholas Cage is this crazy guy,

453
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,560
which, you know, fucking he is.

454
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,600
But like, I feel like in this is in like the serious category

455
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,840
that we've set him up in specifically is where I don't know if it's the directors.

456
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,020
I don't know if it's just the roles he's picked for these.

457
00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:10,780
But like, there's so much more of a commitment to so many of these characters.

458
00:21:10,780 --> 00:21:14,520
And like, you really see the character actor work in like these

459
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,160
and this category of the bracket.

460
00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:21,600
In a way that I don't feel like you see.

461
00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:23,800
Outside of like maybe a weatherman.

462
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,800
Certainly in the movies we've chosen to move forward,

463
00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:31,900
I would not say he committed much to left behind.

464
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:37,280
You could say that his performance was left behind.

465
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,820
Left behind those reach.

466
00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:41,160
And I'm sorry.

467
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,020
It was it's OK.

468
00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:45,520
Are you me?

469
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,820
Welcome back to Cage match.

470
00:21:46,820 --> 00:21:48,200
Colin, round about with.

471
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,200
This cage.

472
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:53,000
You know, I mean, but then, you know, he's also been in like

473
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,500
Captain Correlli's Mandolin, which he committed to.

474
00:21:56,500 --> 00:22:02,380
Sure, but that was kind of a goofy or film or a goofier role in that film.

475
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,980
I don't miss that movie.

476
00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:09,360
I don't know that it's going to make a natural appearance in my life, but

477
00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:12,760
it was fine.

478
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,060
Maybe a C minus.

479
00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:19,060
I know I feel like for when we do the the double feature finale,

480
00:22:19,060 --> 00:22:22,660
we need to just go like find a loose bargain bin of DVDs

481
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000
and just put one under every seat.

482
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,160
Just a grab bag of miscellaneous.

483
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,500
Nick Cage DVDs.

484
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,240
I said we just lock the doors

485
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,340
and make everyone watch Captain Correlli's Mandolin so they can suffer like we did.

486
00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:38,180
OK, that's an interesting question that we're going to sidebar on.

487
00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,980
What movie other than Captain Correlli's?

488
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:44,640
What two movies would you force everyone to watch that suck?

489
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:49,720
You just say 100 percent you get so.

490
00:22:51,820 --> 00:22:55,460
It's a doublehead doubleheader of jujitsu twice and then jujitsu twice.

491
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,860
I don't Captain Correlli's.

492
00:23:00,860 --> 00:23:02,840
It's got it's got charming moments.

493
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,500
It's got the beach scene.

494
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:08,000
It's got like it's got fun little moments.

495
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,880
It's got him like not playing the mandolin for an extended period of time

496
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,980
because he has to wait for the like the horn section.

497
00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:20,620
Boy, I know I would throw Primal in there.

498
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,820
Boy, I want to say

499
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:28,520
army of one would come back.

500
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,460
Yeah, I mean, my pick is definitely Prisoners of the Ghosts land.

501
00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:35,000
Yeah, Gavanna Gavanna.

502
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,080
I I will always be ready for that.

503
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,420
I am so ready to show that I've after doing this for like

504
00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:48,920
two more years, I am ready to like just go back to that.

505
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720
I think another one that I would put into the conversation

506
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760
just because it still makes me laugh so much now is next.

507
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,060
It's like that movie sucks.

508
00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:01,960
It's so bad, but like it is pretty fun and fun.

509
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760
It's the most exploding Jessica Alba's of any film,

510
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,940
which is zero of those Beals.

511
00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:09,300
Yeah. Oh, yes.

512
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:12,380
You know, I would be excited for some drive angry also

513
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:16,680
that that scene of him like, yeah,

514
00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:20,520
getting laid and drinking

515
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,420
and then getting into a gunfight while still getting laid was just too good.

516
00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:26,400
I mean,

517
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,800
all right. So let's see, Joe.

518
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,420
My favorite scene still has got to be the the.

519
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,260
I mean, it's just so funny and it's so stupid

520
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,280
and I hadn't remembered until re listening to the podcast

521
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,600
that when they go and talk to that lady about the dog,

522
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,680
they're both just making the cool face.

523
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,420
And I'm like, also very drunk.

524
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520
It's like that is so funny to me.

525
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,420
Just like, what did that lady think?

526
00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:56,620
It's a dog that looks like a cow.

527
00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,620
Well, lots of dogs can look like cows.

528
00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:05,820
I just love how

529
00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:08,260
Joe is just hitting on that lady, too.

530
00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:11,540
So I go call me sometime.

531
00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:12,540
Oh, yeah.

532
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,300
They're going to write my number on this beer can.

533
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,900
This is a drunk adolescent wanders around in your front yard.

534
00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:24,180
Don't worry about it. He's cool.

535
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:27,220
And then she's like, ask scary if he's

536
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,120
if he's driving

537
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,380
because clearly Joe was too drunk.

538
00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:37,320
It is really good.

539
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,700
This movie is really good.

540
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,200
The chemistry between

541
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,100
Ty Sheridan and Nicholas Cage is terrific.

542
00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:47,140
Yeah, I mean, I think that's really what it hinges on.

543
00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:51,400
Right. Like if you had a crappier teenage actor

544
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,040
or a not Nick Cage in this role, I just don't think it plays the same.

545
00:25:56,940 --> 00:26:00,620
I was I was coming into this kind of ready to be like, I don't like

546
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520
Nick Cage is great in this,

547
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,820
but I was kind of ready to come into this just with

548
00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:12,060
I don't know that this movie necessarily hinges on it being the cage,

549
00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:14,600
but I just have like IMDb open up right now.

550
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
And I'm just watching like little vignettes of

551
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,900
Joe just out of the corner of my eye and just

552
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:25,840
every look, every just little like every little just Nick Cage,

553
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,140
just Nick Cage smoking a cigarette.

554
00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:29,400
And I'm like, no, it has that it has to be that face.

555
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,980
It has to be that fucking guy.

556
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:34,240
I don't think that people really.

557
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,920
Understand it and appreciate.

558
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,820
How good of a physical actor he is.

559
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:44,380
It's only something I'm coming to really kind of appreciate

560
00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:49,220
several hundreds of hours into this experiment. Yeah.

561
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,200
Yeah. His Nicholas Cage's physical performances are terrific.

562
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,060
I think that's I mean,

563
00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:01,800
that's kind of like what his whole deal hinges on, like all of his freak outs,

564
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,480
like their big physical things

565
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,480
that tie into the emotional experience that he's providing.

566
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,220
But his physicality is just on point.

567
00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:18,020
And everything from like.

568
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:21,020
Yeah. On in 60 seconds.

569
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:22,360
Let's ride.

570
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200
To the fucking

571
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840
ghost rider.

572
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,660
But I mean, even beyond just like the like the Meeble below is

573
00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:35,240
I'm just looking at the cover of Joe and just like, yeah,

574
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,540
the way he just holds his body, just like

575
00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:40,200
it's so good.

576
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,740
It's like so many minor things that like the shadow of

577
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,380
Nick Cage, the crazy man, I feel like really

578
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,480
covers up like for most people how good he really is at his job.

579
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,420
Yeah.

580
00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:57,780
Let's see any other new thoughts on Joe

581
00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:01,920
from either listening back to us or from watching it a fresh time.

582
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,420
I'm still not.

583
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:08,360
And this is just a personal like.

584
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,000
Personal gripe.

585
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,900
I'm still not really sold on just like

586
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,340
getting a bunch of not actors to ad lib a bunch of lines.

587
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:16,340
Oh yeah, like the workers and stuff.

588
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:19,400
A lot of the like talk around Joe and just the Joe.

589
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Yeah, just Joe like them saying Joe for every other word.

590
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,780
I'm just like.

591
00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:26,920
Yeah. And that's certainly far more

592
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:29,680
evident when you've got subtitles on

593
00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:35,360
because when it's just background pattern, it's whatever.

594
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,420
They do say his name a lot.

595
00:28:37,420 --> 00:28:40,520
But I some of it I enjoy because,

596
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,600
well, I've worked with people just like them.

597
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,040
And so like the whole Slim Jim and Salami conversation.

598
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,140
Yeah, that gets me.

599
00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:52,840
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

600
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Yeah. Some really funny, good ad lib stuff from that.

601
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,540
Yeah. And I know like I know it's all meant to like

602
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,940
show a bit like a much more kind of like real feeling

603
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:04,880
and down to earth thing.

604
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,020
But I can, you know, suspend disbelief.

605
00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:12,400
So it just like it just distracts me from other things.

606
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
And again, that's a personal gripe and.

607
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Toned it down and cleaned up art a little bit of it.

608
00:29:18,460 --> 00:29:21,300
Just made it more background,

609
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:24,800
but didn't have to be so direct. Yeah.

610
00:29:26,140 --> 00:29:27,640
Yeah, I think the only other thing about this movie

611
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,220
that I like probably would change or reduce or adjust a little bit

612
00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:34,620
is his relationship with that woman who comes and stays with him

613
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:38,180
for a period of time, like doesn't do enough for me.

614
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:41,660
Yeah. And then she's just sort of gone.

615
00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:45,060
I still yeah, I mean, I think that just goes to show like

616
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
this is just who he is to a lot of people. For sure.

617
00:29:48,260 --> 00:29:51,900
Even Tye Sheridan, he's just like he's just the one guy

618
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:55,540
who kind of has his shit together, who feels responsible for it.

619
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,780
It seems like the only person he like, aside from Gary,

620
00:29:59,780 --> 00:30:04,840
the only person he ever had any kind of like desire

621
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,580
to be around was Merle.

622
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,520
So just in regards to like getting here and just these kind of being

623
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,560
the culmination of like what we've determined are his like serious films.

624
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,100
I think in regards to like what comedy wound up being, you know,

625
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,360
there's a he said a lot of those probably could have worked their way in here.

626
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,560
I don't know. Both these movies are so good for just.

627
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:35,060
His gravitas.

628
00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:36,700
Like I said earlier, I don't know if it's the director

629
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:39,140
or just how much he cares about like these roles

630
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:41,940
that just bring out these performances.

631
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,200
I like I thought about

632
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640
the interview where he talks about doing Spider-Verse.

633
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,380
Now he kept doing the lines and, you know, the director's like,

634
00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:51,140
give me more, give me more and tell eventually like,

635
00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:53,380
oh, you just want me to go full neck cage.

636
00:30:53,380 --> 00:30:56,580
You're just like, so on, he, you know, he's in on it.

637
00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:02,960
But like when we get those like really zany performances,

638
00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:07,300
it seems maybe at this point in his career, like a little more like.

639
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,260
That's what he's hired to do that.

640
00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:13,160
Yeah. Well, I mean, that was something that came up.

641
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,000
God, I hate having to reference this in G-Force when

642
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,840
he was like, oh, I can be anybody.

643
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,880
I'll be the mole because then I can use a different voice.

644
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,120
And I don't I don't have to just be Nicolas Cage. I can.

645
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,260
I can be. Speckles. Yeah.

646
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,420
Fuck.

647
00:31:34,420 --> 00:31:36,920
Speckles. Yeah.

648
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,360
The nodes. Nudes.

649
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200
That is also a movie I end up thinking about more than I should.

650
00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:48,100
They fucking cry.

651
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:50,500
Oh, you know, I was fucking I was in the gym the other day,

652
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,380
and I cannot stop just juggling about the crude.

653
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,740
Fucking the punch monkeys.

654
00:31:57,740 --> 00:31:59,180
Punch monkey scene is great.

655
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:03,020
I still I love that clip of them just shoveling food into their gobs.

656
00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:05,320
I was thinking about.

657
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,980
I completely forgot that we ever watched that movie.

658
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,260
And I know.

659
00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:13,200
I'm always a fucking.

660
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,660
I mean, that makes sense.

661
00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:15,460
That's fine.

662
00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:18,460
Just say so much to say that the movie slaps

663
00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:22,260
is an insult to movies that indeed slap.

664
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,300
Well, it slaps and it punches and it kicks.

665
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:29,380
Well, not.

666
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:30,340
Probably.

667
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Not as bad as G Force, but.

668
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,180
I'm still surprised, though, with like those like family animated films

669
00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:40,640
that like he still comes hard in the recording booth.

670
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,880
That's a quite a sentence, Sean.

671
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,140
I'm going, oh, you you want a full Nick Cage?

672
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,680
All right.

673
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,460
So did you have other comparative thoughts for Joe and Pig?

674
00:32:57,980 --> 00:33:00,380
They both have.

675
00:33:00,380 --> 00:33:02,560
Food.

676
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,100
They're both depressing, but end up lifting.

677
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160
I mean, yeah, neither of them end well for Nicholas Cage.

678
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,680
I don't I don't feel like he's come out ahead on either one.

679
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:17,800
I think he comes out ahead and pay.

680
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,740
He makes a friend.

681
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:24,040
He has he's kind of like gets to process.

682
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,380
Yeah, he's processing a little bit of his trauma.

683
00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:28,080
Yeah, I mean, he comes out the other side.

684
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
OK, so if say.

685
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,020
If Pete died,

686
00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:41,600
but I made another friend who was going to talk and be annoying.

687
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,100
Does that make me come out ahead?

688
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,000
Maybe Pete's the wrong one to if if somebody we all like to died,

689
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:54,440
but you got to have one other friend.

690
00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:56,540
Yeah.

691
00:33:56,540 --> 00:33:58,980
And then we hot swapped them out.

692
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:00,420
If Pete died.

693
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:03,480
Clearly, Pete is the pig in this situation.

694
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,220
I don't think just getting a new friend means he comes out.

695
00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:11,260
He also gets a new pig.

696
00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:12,860
He doesn't get in.

697
00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:14,600
He hasn't gotten a new pig.

698
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,300
What isn't that like at the end?

699
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,540
You hear you hear you hear a new pig.

700
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,080
That's a that's a weird thing to say about Bruce Springsteen.

701
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:29,380
Yeah, I don't think he gets a new pig at the end,

702
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:31,680
like he might get a pig in the future, but

703
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,920
he never needed the pig.

704
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Like not at the end of the film, but like he does get another pig eventually.

705
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,660
Like they allude to that.

706
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:44,700
This is like learning about Smalls's fake backstory from Nick.

707
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,940
Yeah, except for Smalls's fake backstory was fucking good.

708
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,300
I think you've.

709
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,140
Found more in it than I did,

710
00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:04,920
because the way I see it is he didn't get his friend back.

711
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,420
He may have gotten a new friend, but this new friend is clearly annoying

712
00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:13,880
and he's going back to the woods to be by himself again.

713
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:18,420
But he will see a mirror on Thursdays. Yeah.

714
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:21,360
Yeah, I mean, I'm with John.

715
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,160
I find this movie more on the uplifting side than than Joe.

716
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,340
I mean, like Joe ends because Gary is like, oh, I'm coming out

717
00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:31,380
of the bad side of things and, you know,

718
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:34,200
life might not be totally shit.

719
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,120
Joe ends, you know, in a sad way, but sort of uplifting way to me.

720
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680
And I don't know, I just feel optimistic for some reason.

721
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:46,380
It seems like her pig ends with me feeling more optimistic.

722
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:50,560
I think I think Peg has has a beautiful and it has just a beautiful,

723
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,700
beautiful story about like loss and just humanity and the people around us

724
00:35:55,700 --> 00:36:00,800
and how we never lose them. I think it's about pig manatee, but that's

725
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,900
again, difference of opinion.

726
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,380
All right. So should we put it to the vote?

727
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:12,780
I mean, I'm never going to be, you know, I mean,

728
00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:13,940
I'm never going to be unbiased about this.

729
00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:17,720
Pig is my favorite film from this entire like thing we've done.

730
00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:22,220
So it's hard for me to vote against that in this in this context.

731
00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:25,220
And so when it comes down to like, what's a movie?

732
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,560
I'm going to suggest to most people.

733
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,500
It's going to be Pig more often than Joe,

734
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,360
and that I've suggested everyone I've talked to about Nicholas Cage watch pig.

735
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,400
Yeah, pigs got the.

736
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,300
I think the stronger script, the better performance,

737
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:45,440
better story.

738
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,440
I really like Joe, but everyone likes Joe, except that one guy.

739
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Yeah, but he probably has reason.

740
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,060
He went through a windshield at four in the morning.

741
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,320
Yeah, and give a fuck.

742
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,300
But yeah, you know, I'm all for pig here.

743
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,160
It's it's a terrific film.

744
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,500
I love love watching it, and I would love other people to love watching it.

745
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,700
Next person who watches it.

746
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,580
Tell me if there's a pig noise at the end.

747
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:18,780
100% is a pig noise at the end.

748
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:21,780
All right. So so pig is the winner. Shocking.

749
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:23,020
Yeah, a huge development.

750
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,620
Events is it?

751
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:26,220
No.

752
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,420
Yeah, so people will be going up against either Wild at Heart or Vampire's Kiss,

753
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:34,420
which interesting head to head.

754
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Yeah, it's going to start getting weird.

755
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,620
Yeah. I mean, next we're doing the weird movies, but I mean,

756
00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:44,240
just the matchups are getting action versus comedy, serious versus weird.

757
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,540
I will say, OK, so going back to my weird like fucking brain fart

758
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:50,840
earlier in terms of like

759
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Nicolas Cage's physical acting and just the presence he brings to a movie.

760
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,880
I have rethought my take on.

761
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,420
Conair and him not be necessary for that role.

762
00:38:01,420 --> 00:38:05,120
Like, no, it just that that big dumb head needs to be is Cameron Powe.

763
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,820
Yep, there's no other poe.

764
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:11,200
Now, I'll admit what I'm wrong.

765
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,960
I guess.

766
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,300
This one thing I finally admit the truth.

767
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:20,740
Not primal, I will never admit that's good.

768
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:24,080
But you'll admit that it's necessary.

769
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,680
I will watch it again.

770
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,820
I do want to like I do want to watch it with you, Nick,

771
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:33,660
just because I think watching it alone for this was not the mindset to watch that in.

772
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,320
Well, you're in luck because I bring it with me everywhere I go.

773
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:40,660
There you go.

774
00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:43,060
Nick is going to be over in 10 minutes. 15.

775
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,600
I'm on the bottom of Portland.

776
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,300
Yeah.

777
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:50,540
There you go. Well, you can come find us on social media at Cage underscore

778
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:53,540
match underscore pod or a Patreon at Cage match pod.

779
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,940
Thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam and Bill

780
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:04,180
and to our cage dancers, Ira, John Freeman, Lance, Nathan and Cameron.

781
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:06,180
Who?

782
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:08,280
Not my best.

783
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,020
You can clean it up in post.

784
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:14,720
I won't.

785
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,980
Pigs have corkscrew penises.

786
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,760
That was ducks.

787
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
They do, too. Terrifying.

788
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,760
Yeah. Nature isn't so cool and unique.

789
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,400
Lots of animals have corkscrew penises.

790
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,380
Raccoons have a bone in their wiener.

791
00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:38,300
Oh, the pig manatee.

792
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:39,040
I think.

793
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,340
Oh, my.

794
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,340
I.

795
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:53,440
I still think it would be great if Wallace and I did a horse costume

796
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:56,740
like team dress up

797
00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:00,860
and he could be the the horse's head and I would be the horse's ass, but

798
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:04,820
he's only a foot tall, so it would be hilarious.

799
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:09,960
Yeah. Wallace is a dog.

800
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,160
No, I googled

801
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:16,400
Wenda to see if that was right.

802
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,740
And this is like one of the first images that showed up in the Google.

803
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:22,500
Video. Look at the thing.

804
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,920
So, dear listener, it is Wenda sitting on the toilet, waving happily.

805
00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:33,820
Oh, good. I'm glad I didn't click on that.

806
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:36,720
That's lovely.

807
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,280
Yeah, I'm on hotel Wi-Fi.

808
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,260
I don't need them knowing I'm looking at that shit.

809
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,340
I think a rough one that would be like a lock the door

810
00:40:48,340 --> 00:40:50,760
and everyone would have to suffer is dangerous.

811
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,700
Just so boring.

812
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,940
I mean, Zandily.

813
00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:01,140
And it's it's like just in the middle of the most mid.

814
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,780
No, Zandily is a good secret one.

815
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:06,740
What you don't want to show anybody.

816
00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:08,720
Yes, it's for me only.

817
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,460
That's my precious.

818
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:13,060
No, back.

819
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,820
Mid is the best way to describe Bangkok dangerous, like

820
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:17,720
y'all shat on it so much.

821
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,960
And I'm just like, this movie is so.

822
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,040
It is what it is, which is ultimately nothing.

823
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,540
Yeah, like it's not.

824
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:26,440
That's the problem.

825
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,000
It's not bad and it's not great.

826
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,840
It's just fucking.

827
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,240
It's just nothing.

828
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,840
It's lukewarm tap water.

829
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,740
It's yesterday's tap water.

