Hey everybody, it's producer Peter.
The recording with our friend Lunchbox, Nick Cage, artist and tattoo artist got a little
funky with the audio.
We ended up having to use sort of our scratch track from discord to make sure everything
was as audible as possible.
And it's not perfect at all times.
So I apologize for that.
But I think you can still get the gist and have a good time with us.
So thanks for listening.
Yeah I love the fact that we had to have a conversation about your government name and
your actual name.
I probably forgot your government name, but I do thoroughly respect the application of
the term.
How did you end up as Lunchbox?
Well my name I was born with was a little too common down in California where I was
going to college.
There's like five of us in the circles.
We all ended up getting nicknames.
It originally came from dogma.
The sound Bob was called Lunchbox once.
And between that just my eating habits back then kind of stuck.
And then I kept it professionally because like my names were way too common.
Matthew and Chris are names people forget all the time.
Yeah that makes a ton of sense.
It's surprising how often people forget their artists name.
They just go into a tattoo shop.
They're like I don't know.
It's like out of the ages and tattoos.
It's like that's not a good clue man.
He's like mid height.
He had short hair.
So yeah no people remember this much more.
I get a lot more comments on my name than they used to.
I have a very generic appearance so I blend into a lot of.
It's fucking true.
Every time I go out I see someone who I think is you but it's not you.
Because I don't go out.
Just one of those faces.
That's part of it.
Yeah.
That was your first clue.
It's beyond just face.
It's like a walk in a body too.
You're just like an everyman.
Just a confidence.
Yeah.
It's the confidence.
Yeah that's really what gets it.
It's a confidence man.
That's it.
Yeah exactly.
You get it.
Now that I think about it I don't ever see you out.
I see you in my house and I see you at the bar.
Yeah.
But never in between.
I've got a tunnel.
It takes me between the two.
So are you just the silver four door car of people?
Because like that's what I drive.
I get it lost in a parking lot all the time.
Like I constantly forget where I park because it has no distinguishing features.
I actually tried to go the opposite way when I bought my last car and I bought just a bright
orange Subaru.
I always can find that.
Yeah it was good for like a couple months and then all of a sudden it's like there's
three bright orange Subarus on my block.
Every time I see one I'm like oh it's Nick.
It's not.
They're foreign this neighborhood alone.
Not including when you come to visit.
It's the burden of being a trendsetter.
I guess.
Everybody kind of looked at me in that thing and it's like oh yeah you know that kind of
looks like it was me driving it like you get a gauge of like how good you would look whenever
I sit in a vehicle and you're like yeah.
OK that could work.
See I don't see that.
I don't look anything like you.
No I mean maybe if I sat in a front of a taco truck.
Whoa alright.
What?
Sean likes to eat.
I do.
And I do like tacos.
Tacos are good.
Undeniably.
They look at you like you're a little bit weird.
They don't know what I look like Peter.
That's true.
Yeah they do.
They look at your face all the time on the art.
That's fair.
They don't know which one is which.
You're the one that looks like everybody.
What was the last drawing I had posted?
And can I post pictures in this channel?
What number did I get to?
The answer in general is X-Men 97 is so good.
It is.
It's great.
Is it?
I've been hearing that.
It's amazing.
I got a Cyclops tattoo because I got so into X-Men 97.
That's pretty hardcore.
It's right next to my Magneto tattoo that I've had for 10 years now.
Oh god it's Brent Ryan versus Bill Furpo.
Fucking Bill Furpo.
I hate that that is a name that I just always remember.
What's that from?
Trapped in Paradise.
Oh.
No full disclosure I have not watched all of these.
You haven't watched all of them?
Not all of them.
I've watched a lot of them.
What's your body count at this point?
I don't know what my body count is.
I've seen most of the Nick Cage movies or at least the relevant ones I feel.
I thought I had seen a lot of the relevant ones before too but it turns out I had only
watched like seven Nicolas Cage movies.
Now you've watched like 70.
Yeah.
I think it's over at 74.
74?
Yeah.
I haven't started, because we were gonna watch Unbearable Weight of Massive Town.
My brother got this idea for us to watch everything that was even vaguely mentioned in that movie.
Okay.
So you've seen The Crudes?
Yes.
I watched The Crudes too.
I had a friend, we had a friend of ours who watched it with us just describe The Crudes
one.
Hey, we figured that'd be good enough.
And it was.
I lost at all.
Yeah.
I feel like you've probably got the gist pretty easily on that one.
Yeah.
that you watched that you regretted watching.
I think there were some stinkers in there.
There's got to be.
Was it guarding tests?
Candy Corelli's mandolin wasn't as boring as I expected it to be.
Oh, that was like shockingly not terrible.
It's so mediocre.
It's so it's just fine.
Yeah, I would.
I would also describe it as shockingly not terrible.
Like, how about that?
Yeah, perfect.
That's also what we came to last episode.
Yeah, again.
Again, like I'm sure like the first time we watched it, we're like,
I don't know, it's fine.
Yeah, but it's not that other movie.
So it was better than whatever it was that other time.
Yeah, yeah, like I know there are worse engagement for sure.
Well, I'm just going to jump right in here.
Otherwise, we're never going to get to it.
Welcome to Kate. Welcome back to cage match.
Colon around about way of meeting Nicholas Gage.
I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host colon Nick.
So you came in real hard on that colon and I got excited.
I wanted to colon.
And our son colon with acid yellow.
Sorry. Oh, boy.
Yeah. So what do we do here, Sean?
We here we take 64 Nicholas Cage movies as decided by us
in bracket style March Madness down to the two
catious films as decided by Nick and myself and sometimes Peter.
Yeah, but never our guests.
No, sorry, lunchbox.
It's fine. Also, who are you?
Who are you and why are you in our discord?
I was invited.
I started a year and some odd time ago.
Started the challenge of drawing every Nick Cage.
And now here I am.
It's a beautiful endeavor.
It is like there's certain sin to it.
I started to worry like maybe like a dozen in the end,
but like really after you've drawn him like 20 something times,
you kind of get like a Stockholm syndrome for it.
I feel. Yeah, we feel that we get it.
Yeah, like you see his face in your dreams and stuff.
We've been doing this for nearly what two years?
Yeah. Two years in July.
Yeah. Two years.
Yeah, it's a long time.
I've been doing this for at least a year.
Been drawing for longer.
But drug Nick Cage for a year or so.
It would be amazing if that was the way you started getting into drawing.
Kind of like the guy who was drawing in diesel every day.
I just have to draw this man.
And like this is going to look like my fashion in drawing.
He's my muse.
I must paint you.
There was a guy who is drawing Mike Trout every day until like something happened.
I was like, that's weird.
Like I didn't really follow it.
So I don't know if they improved or not or if they even stuck with it.
I saw like five Mike Trout drawings and I was like, that's a really weird thing.
Also, what a great name.
Thanks. Yeah, thanks for a lot of this.
I mean, we wouldn't have found each other if not for Reddit.
So there you go.
So, you know, there's something it did.
Star-crossed lovers.
Do you have a favorite Nicolas Cage you've drawn so far?
Oh, man, there has been some.
I think it's a draw him with the helmet on.
I enjoyed that.
That was a good one.
I liked drawing red just because I like red.
Big fan of Mandy.
I actually wore my cheddar goblin shirt for like, you know, sick.
Oh, yeah.
Nice representation.
I think I didn't want to seem like I came in biased, but I I'm wearing my wild at heart shirt today.
So I'm all nice.
I mean, I tried to go.
I do want a Willie's Wonderland shirt.
You wore a Willie Wonderland shirt.
I want one.
You're not on camera.
You could just say you're wearing a Willie's Wonderland shirt.
Say it now.
Take a fresh take.
Now I've already admitted I haven't.
I refuse to lie.
Good.
The sin would be just vocal.
We'd hear it.
We could tell why I wasn't your choice.
I'm integrity.
Yeah, you're integrity.
Said no one hosting a Nicholas Cage podcast.
Definitely not this podcast.
You know, it was fun was drawing the animated cages because it was kind of like this little island in the middle of all of his face is I get to draw something actually different.
Wait, did you draw G Force?
Yeah, yeah, I drew them all from G Force not long ago.
Yeah.
Speckles.
But I know what his character look like and I know its name, because that's what I said all the time.
Unfortunately, I remember all of the hamster names from that.
I was like, why is that stuck in my brain?
Okay, so there's Darwin, Juarez, Blaster and Hurley.
Yeah, what about Steve Buscemi?
I can't remember what the mice were named.
He was a hamster.
Hamster whatever fucking same thing.
God damn it.
Respect the film.
Respect the craft.
I don't know.
His name was probably like nibbles.
That sounds pretty good.
I believe that I'm not going to check.
Good enough for us.
We're a serious podcast.
Well, speaking of animated cages, I think we do have to discuss briefly the Spider-Man noir is happening.
Yeah.
Live action.
Spider-Man.
Yeah, this week in cage.
Yeah, seems like that's going to be a real deal.
You know, we might be living at the end of days, but fuck if it isn't a ride.
Yeah, I think it's a ride.
I think it's a ride.
Yeah.
So the surfer got a six minute standing Oh, at Cannes.
I know.
They say it's like a real return to like a Mandy ask kind of performance.
Pretty excited for the surfer.
And we also have long legs.
Which continues to show us like nothing.
Yeah.
I think the cage is a current trajectory and like more horror and creepy shit.
Yeah.
Creepy shit films.
I think, you know, he's moved past action.
He's too old for that.
Well, and definitely romantic comedy is out the window at this point.
I beg to differ.
We could have a return to figure.
I mean, it could be like an about Schmidt situation.
Mandy's a love story.
He's old at this point.
Mandy is a love story though, like I will agree with that.
It's a lost love story.
Sorry, spoilers.
I mean, like unforgivens kind of a love story, right?
That's not a big age movie.
There are movies that other people read.
It was a Clint Eastwood movie.
We don't watch those.
We don't have time.
I don't have time.
I'm about to have a baby.
I mean, not me, but.
Oh, geez.
It's fine. It's fine.
You're a man. You can say it.
That's true.
Don't limit yourself.
You're a man.
The world's your oyster.
Give birth.
You're a white man.
True.
So as I was saying on this podcast, we take two Nicholas Cage movies and decide which is the best cage film as decided by Nick and myself.
And this week we are discussing David Lynch's Wild at Heart and some other guys.
Willie's Wonderland.
Some other guys.
Willie's Wonderland.
Nailed it.
I want to talk about Willie's Wonderland.
Mostly I want to talk about the character of Tex.
McAdoo.
Tex McAdoo.
And why does he have a fake mustache on?
Well, because he's from Texas, so he needs a mustache.
But I'm sure they found the actor like a week beforehand.
I just love his shitty and grin is like, and now you're an employee.
Yeah, it just seems like such an odd thing.
OK, so you confirmed that the mustache was fake.
Oh, it's hella fake.
It looks like it's a piece of paper with like nine hairs across.
At least it wasn't CGI.
Take that, Joss Whedon's Justice League.
You had a relevant hot take.
Well, that was a removal removal of a mustache.
Right. Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, this is the inversion.
OK, you got me there.
I would love to see a fake like CG added mustache that like kind of slides in the frame and like animation doesn't snap.
That filter.
Yeah, every once in a while it kind of disappears and you have dog ears, a big tongue that just licks the audience.
You got it. It's a terrible movie.
So Lunchbox, had you seen Willy's Wonderland at this point?
No, no, this is the first time.
This is the first time I've seen Willy's Wonderland.
It was OK.
How do you feel about our namesake here not having a single line of dialogue?
That I liked.
Actually, one big criticism I'd have, I think the movie could have done better with less dialogue, even with a silent protagonist.
I feel like there was too much talking in the movie.
Yeah, those kids do talk a lot.
It's mostly exposition.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Like I think in my notes I wrote, I wrote where there was two separate exposition dogs that just tell you a story.
I mean, you could have cut dialogue in the super happy fun room or whatever when the kids are getting down.
You just need like sex, sex, sex.
Oh, quick look over.
Sex, sex, sex.
And then like the alligator is doing like nothing now.
So also I think it would have been great if the gator popped up out of the ball pit.
I was going to say that's my biggest beef with this movie is no kid dies in the ball pit by the alligator.
Yeah, why was there no monster in the ball pit?
I watched this with my wife and she said it was like, oh crap, a ball pit.
You know, there's snakes in that thing.
Like I don't like ball pit.
So it's a good there's just be in a ball pit.
Relax.
Crocodile just sits up like the undertaker.
This is kind of like wasted opportunity.
The movie like a couple more good decisions and they would have had a pretty solid like B or like if Sam Raimi had made this, it would have been great.
Fuck. Yeah.
If it was like puppets instead of like an excess of CG and if like they didn't talk so much because I feel like it definitely took me out of it every time they talked and then got all CG.
They cut around for them.
Our puppets like the ostrich was a puppet.
Yeah, I want you to tell him.
Ostrich is pretty solid.
They had the goods like Sub Zero spine.
Like that one was good.
That was a big fan of that one.
The ostrich and the gorilla are the two best fight scenes.
I feel I really enjoyed the nighty night fight again.
Enormous thick foam sword and like just suspending disbelief and being like that could totally cut a person in half.
It's like four inches of foam, but it could.
Yeah, it's got it's got Satan's edge to some sort of lacquer on it.
How long do you think he's taking those breaks?
I mean, he's taking a full 15, maybe just a 10.
Yeah, it seems like a 10.
How often did he take a break?
Because he's taking him like he's taking like six in that one evening.
One night, I guess, Tex never said how many breaks to take and he never takes a lunch.
So he doesn't take a lunch.
That's true.
Just punch pop.
He also renovates her business in a night, which seems a little much.
Where did the teen bodies go?
Yeah.
That was my I didn't think about this my first viewing and I thought about it today.
A bunch of teens died, but he finished cleaning that place up.
So are they just like in the dumpster?
Yeah, like they held up their end of the deal.
He agreed to this.
I think the animatronics eat them.
He did spend extra involved.
And that was all great.
Everything was a pinball machine, including his improvised disco dance.
That was my favorite scene for sure.
It just like power move at the end.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the kind of frosted lens, like kind of soft colors, like beaming through as he's just.
Oh, he's fucking feeling that.
Yeah, he's tripping out on whatever drink he's drinking.
He's gotten in the zone.
It's the pinball.
The first one is that they spent a lot of time on the pinball machine.
They do spend a lot of time with the pinball machine.
And I like that.
It's a nice break from the ridiculousness of the premise of the movie.
Is this a sequel to Tommy, the pinball wizard?
Yeah, the pinball pinball barbarian.
Where are we going to go with that?
Now, for headcanon, it makes me enjoy the movie to believe that this is just red on his way back from somewhere.
This is just like a noteworthy experience for him.
My headcanon is he's a high level like fighter or something that just happens to be in a low level dungeon.
He just has to clear it like it's less work for him to just do the quest than to go around and get his car fixed elsewise.
So he just shows up and it's like, fine, I'll kill your little monsters, but you're not going to get a word out of me for it.
I think he was a form in a former life. He was a costume mascot somewhere.
No, you think he's a water baby with water, baby.
What does that mean?
What does that mean, Nick?
I'm assuming it means he has water for brains.
Oh, I got you.
OK. Ostrich comes to life, tries to kill you.
Maybe that's a one off. You go back to clean when the gorilla like
surprises new say bots into the into the bathroom and gorilla greetings you.
All right. Maybe just preemptively take out a couple more animatronics.
Yeah, like he has some weird moral code against killing them when they're not trying to kill him.
Like beat the shit out of those fucking things.
To be fair, the like constraints of the quest were not killed the animatronics. It was clean up.
Clean up. Yeah. Yeah. If we're talking about quests, you're right.
That's actually wasting time destroying the robots.
It just takes away from the amount of cleaning.
It's vandalizing the property you're restoring anyway.
At some point, he was going to have to buff Willie's tough.
I do like how him and Willie, when they have their fight, Willie kicks his ass, throws him in the ball pit, then just like goes for a pee.
Yeah. Just walk wanders off so he can get up and go like load up his burlap sack with punch pop and
like tape a broom handle together instead of, you know, going and picking up that shotgun.
Yeah. I don't know how the sack of soda was the most effective way.
Well, when Willie stepped on the shotgun, he broke it.
So the shotgun was out of commission.
Here's something I noticed on this viewing when the sheriff gets like smacked in half, when it cuts back to so cool,
when it cuts back to Willie, the top half of the torso is just in the side of the camera.
I'm assuming it's just hanging from like a gurney or something.
So it's just like hanging there. There's just a fist hanging there.
There are some could be embedded in the wall, but probably not.
Yeah. So speaking of the burlap sack of punch pop, I love that he has that nice car.
And like by all accounts, like does not look to be a vagrant, carries all of his shit in a burlap sack.
Like one used potato sack. Show me a better sack.
Bindle. I don't I'm not. Yeah.
All right. I take it back.
Thank God this isn't a visual medium for everyone else yet.
Yeah. Find us on YouTube.
I was on a porn club account going. We stopped on that idea.
Yeah. Well, I just haven't had time to pursue it again.
So you keep getting distracted. Yeah. Every time I log in, like something else comes up.
It's sort of like edging for us being on that.
I think this is a very fun movie. I think it's a very low commitment film.
Like you don't need to ask much of yourself and you shouldn't ask much of this movie or your wife.
The thing about wife, my wife, until 13 minutes into this movie, thought we were watching a Willy Wonka movie.
Oh yeah. OK. Different.
Like when does Gene Wilder come out? It was often a very strange start.
Nick Cage is a mute Willy Wonka. Yeah.
She was rolling with it for 13 whole minutes. So I found myself.
I mean, I was watching on Hulu, which I think everyone probably was.
And you can skip like 10 second increments on Hulu like really rapidly.
And I found myself only jumping to the fight scenes because I just didn't give a shit about anything else.
They don't really build the tension between those terrible and like building any sort of tension.
It was just stuff happened. Yeah.
And like the the cuck dude, like who fucking cares?
Like you're pining after Liv and then the weird like chameleon is going to try and fuck you or whatever.
And you deserve to die.
Yeah, like the terrible, the terrible teenagers were just regular terrible, not like satire, terrible like the Tucker and Dale kids or something like that.
Yeah, I love that movie.
See, Doug or Dale's great because it's a good comedy and a good horror.
This was not good at either one of those.
Like I think somebody made your mom and dad episode that it was not a good horror movie.
It's not a good comedy movie.
It's not like something like the Evil Dead show where they do a good job both.
That's terrific because that's my opinion of mom and dad.
I have the exact opposite opinion here where it's like it's not like a great comedy.
It's not a great horror, but I don't know.
I feel like it's at least there's more commitment to I don't know.
Maybe I just like the character of the janitor more.
I do like the character of the janitor more than Brent.
There's something charming about this movie that I'll watch it.
I don't think I would say no if somebody was like, want to watch it.
I was like, sure. Why not?
But it's a little commitment for me. It's like it is 90 minutes.
You can just kind of go in and out of I do love I do love all the songs.
It's weird that it ends on Free Bird.
Yeah. Our second was so strange.
Like had they just because I mean, they made up new fucking songs for this movie.
Had they just made up a free bird esk tune.
Nobody would have thought twice about it.
That would have been fucking funny.
Also, for the license and right to play free bird, you could have like
made the Willy fight actually look good.
Don't call it the Willy fight.
It was. I mean, when Nick Cage pulls out his tummy sticks and
I do want the Willy's Wonderland theme to have it for reasons that are not going to go into.
So creepy.
It's a.
I respect it.
And we want you to have fun.
Hey, shoulders, knees and toes and toes.
This is still the only time that I ever hear anything beyond that part of that song ever.
And then I have to remember that it's like, oh, yeah, it's like shins and hips and tummies.
And no, that's years.
That's the weird horny version that they made. It is not that.
Those hips don't lie.
That's the Shakira version.
I disagree.
That's the if you sing it to a child, you do not do the tummies and hips.
I disagree.
I don't remember a second part of the song or second verse.
Like I remember that there is a second verse and it it does talk about other body parts.
Eyes, ears, mouth and nose, head, shoulders, knees and toes.
OK, but where do the tummies and the hips come in?
For killing teens. Nice.
Get us out of this one.
Some teens die in a wild at heart, so wild at heart.
Now we got to talk about the matrix.
You get segue now.
Take it back.
That was really grasping to
you don't need to get us out of there.
What teens died in that.
The car crash.
Oh, I mean, the people who are who are teens.
I mean, to be fair, if this were the 90s, we could be plain teens.
That's correct.
The other half of the Twin Peaks cast when they die.
Right. All right.
Yeah. Also, one of the two is Audrey Horn.
So there was that one of like six Twin Peaks people in this.
I forget how many. Yes.
Now we'll get yeah, we'll get into that in a minute.
You got to still talk about one more thing on Willie's Wonderland.
And the Willie's Wonderland, the matrix of Willie's Wonderland,
whether it's a good movie, a bad movie, a good Nicholas Cage performance,
a bad Nicholas Cage performance or somewhere in the middle.
Where where do you rank this film in this cage?
They're not great movie, but the cage performance was solid.
I think the janitor was the strong point of the whole movie.
That's how he overcame all those obstacles through strength.
Yeah, that's true.
The sheer tyranny of will.
Disgumption is too far.
Yeah, I'm with that assessment.
It is not a good movie like on paper.
This doesn't fly.
It's a great Nicholas Cage performance.
It's magnetic.
I'll use that magnetic is a good word for it.
Yeah, I am not not a good film, but a very entertaining performance
by Nicholas Cage.
I forgot when he is going to fight the fairy and the chameleon.
And he's got like is the menage a tour, a tour.
And you know, he it just like when he even profiled and he just starts
shaking when he kills a siren, Sarah.
Yeah, Sarah, siren or siren, Sarah,
by like snapping her neck.
Oh, with his legs, with his legs.
So he's just sitting on her face.
And I'm like, oh, you can't can't show this in England.
Did they face sitting in porn?
What? Oh, this would have been like a decade and a half.
We got to talk to Darryl.
Oh, I mean, that's Darryl right now.
Darryl. Yeah, Darryl.
Darryl, can you watch me sitting porn?
Can you sit on a face?
Sit aloud.
Now, the funniest part of the movie probably I found probably was
when he took his break in the middle of a fight and just handed the girl the blade.
That was one of my favorite parts.
That's what I wanted to know.
How long his breaks were, because like, how long was she fighting that chameleon?
Yeah, like how long was she just alone trying to stab that thing?
At least 10 minutes.
BBC article. Why are people face sitting outside of Parliament?
Why are people face sitting outside of Parliament?
So it was only a decade ago now.
That's still relevant.
Yeah, they banned a bunch of different sex acts in porn in British,
including face sitting.
Do they return them to the people?
Put them right back on the faces.
I'll do my research tonight.
Prohibition all over again.
Yeah.
So with face sitting instead of
a face sitting, where do you put this movie on the grid?
Bad, good, bad entertaining.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I had a good time.
I skipped most of a 90 minute movie by fast forwarding.
Yeah, I was going to say, it hardly qualifies as watching the movie.
That's like how most people watch porn.
You're just fast jumping through to the parts that are like,
until the face, it gets gooey.
That's good. Yeah. Until the face sitting.
Yeah. And then you're like, OK, I've seen enough.
I'm curious.
What was your favorite animatronic death in this?
Favorite animatronic death?
Not Willie's. He just kind of smashed him.
I liked the collie sticks he made out of like a mop.
And then the spine rip might have been my favorite because that was pretty good.
I remember the face sitting one.
The gorilla gorilla gets a curb stomped into a urinal like.
It's not necessarily the killing, but I'm still really a big fan of Tito
getting hit in the balls with the shotgun. Yeah.
Why did we have that?
Why did we make this curse? How does it feel?
Things feel pain. Bad idea.
Yeah.
You know, it was a brutal curb.
Stomp is when he killed that guy at the beginning of all the dark.
Oh, man.
OK, yeah, that's our transition.
Wild at heart. Yeah, that's not a bad segue.
Sorry, did step on your toes.
No, it's fine.
I'm not good at them, apparently.
I don't know why you're sour about this now.
You've had two years to learn how to segue that movie.
It starts fucking right right in there.
Yeah, starts out hot.
Credits over fire is our introduced to this movie is just.
This is so David Lynch and I
forgot how wildly David Lynch this movie is.
He is just the third main character.
Yeah, I love it.
I mean, you've got the weird high voice guy for no reason.
You've got the weird like murder of the mom's boyfriend.
Like, fuck, it's so David Lynch.
And the guy who quacked at the bar and spoke to me.
What do you tell me?
We weren't the pigeons spread diseases. Yeah.
Which is not the only enigmatic character he beats, because you also have Pete
from Twin Peaks. I forget what his character was.
Double off something.
He goes on about his dog and how his dog bites sometimes.
And you probably picture his dog.
Well, that was the guy that was that was a racer head to write.
Yes, he's the racer head guy. Absolutely.
This this movie is fucking wild.
So Peter and I watched this one to get.
Yeah. And weird on top.
Peter and I watched this one together in about 10 minutes into the film.
Peter looks at me and goes, is David Lynch a good director?
And I didn't have an answer.
Have you watched David Lynch make quinoa?
I have not, but I'm going to.
I have. I've been waiting.
Wait, is that on Pornhub or?
No, you can find it on YouTube or whatever.
It's cowards.
So he did like a series of things at one point.
I don't know. He was just posting videos like he would post the weather report
every day. But he would read the weather.
I'm aware of.
I want to pull the numbers out of a jar.
For this quinoa one, it's like a black and white video that he shoots at night.
And he's making quinoa.
He's telling you his quinoa recipe and he's just smoking over this pot
of water while it boils.
And then he goes outside to have a cigarette.
He just like rambles at you for like 20 minutes while the quinoa sets.
And then he goes back in and makes himself a plate of like barely visible quinoa.
Because it's nighttime and he's got like two lights on and it's in black and white.
And he just eats quinoa and probably smokes another cigarette while he does it.
OK, so he is a good director.
He's insane. I don't know.
I'm pretty sure I told this story when we first did Wild at Heart.
But I used to work at a Barnes and Noble and the person who like got guests to come
talk there, got David Lynch to come talk about a book he'd written.
But David Lynch won't do a public appearance if he can't smoke quinoa.
But David Lynch won't do a public appearance if he can't smoke inside.
So most places have to like get special dispensation from like the city to have
like indoor smoking just so he'll come and talk.
That is a power play.
David Lynch and David Chappelle like they're going to smoke.
So this movie is crazy.
I love it and hate it.
Like, I think it sucks and it's amazing.
It kind of describes David Lynch for me in general.
Like, it's a whole thing of he wants you to feel things.
And that's not always a good feeling he wants you to have.
No, he definitely keeps you like from being comfortable.
No, I feel disconcerted and very uncomfortable at certain parts of a lot of his movies,
especially anytime Bobby is on screen.
I just like feel slime on me.
So Bobby Peru, Willem Dafoe's character, he has such a profound impact on me
when I think about this movie that I forget that he's only in the last like 30 minutes.
And his head gets blown off.
Yeah. With the spine still attached.
Yeah, that's gross.
Not as gross as his teeth.
What's really impressive in this movie is I think this is the creepiest
Willem Dafoe I've seen and he can really play creepy.
Like this is creepier than poor things Willem Dafoe.
Yep. No, wait.
I don't know what's worse, his mustache or his teeth or his like persona.
Yeah, his personality.
Every single thing about his character is gross.
Oh, man. I will tell you, the thing that lives rent free in my brain
from this movie is Mr. Big Round Balls.
Oh, yeah. What a weird like is that a compliment or an insult?
It's like I had a friend of mine who in college would just his insult was
your big dick bitch.
And it's like, thank you.
So I got a question for all of you.
Fuck Mary Kill Bobby Peru's mustache,
Bobby Peru's teeth and Bobby Peru's personality.
Oh, boy. The mustache.
You know, OK.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Mary, the mustache, the mustache.
Kill the teeth.
Fuck his personality.
And there's no good options here.
They're all terrible.
God damn it, Nick.
You know what?
I think I'm going to fuck the teeth because they're small
and I don't think they'll get in the way.
They seem pretty gross and jagged.
Yeah, they're not going to offer up a lot of resistance.
This podcast is over.
I'm turning this podcast around.
Mary, the mustache and definitely kill his personality.
All right. Lunchbox, your take.
Oh, I don't know if I'll play this game.
Go ahead. Get canceled with me.
Mustache is maybe the most appealing.
So maybe very bad. Kill his teeth.
Oh, what does that leave?
Oh, that leaves me.
I'm talking about personality.
Also, I mean, the guys in this room seen my attempts at relationships.
I like an abusive relationship.
Oh, I don't like myself that much.
Don't don't be in a Bobby Peru.
If there's one thing everyone should take away from Wild at Heart
and this podcast, don't be Bobby Peru.
Don't talk about yourself in third person.
It don't take a leak in for the Lord Lord earn against your will.
Apparently, he actually did.
He accidentally non-functioning toilet.
But why did they why did they use fake audio for that?
It's so bad.
It's just like somebody dumping a bucket of water.
Well, they probably just looped it in.
So just to make it, you know.
I'm going to put my own version of that audio in right now.
I'm going to go dump a bucket of water in the yard.
The thing that sticks out that will not leave my brain
is the close up of Bobby Peru smiling with the stocking over his head.
Oh, yeah.
Also, why why stocking like how is that a convincing.
Because it's a classic.
Yeah, but it it is a class.
It's a fucking classic.
I mean, look at raising Arizona.
Look, they're just holding up a seed bank.
Is it supposed to be like a dark stocking?
Is that going to like because like they just look like them,
but their noses are slightly smashed and you can't tell their hair.
And I don't know, maybe from a distance.
Let's go get some stockings.
All right. I have some.
Some. Well, I don't want to wear your stockings.
And I don't want your giant head to stretch them out.
I would stretch the crotch part out really hard.
Then I'd put it on my head.
All right. So lunchbox, give us a give us a like top level
review of this movie.
Like what happens? Give us the overall story.
The overall story.
Geez, that's a way too many notes on all that hard.
So that could be problematic.
But what general stories you would have the love story between sailor and Lulu.
It starts off with fire and the curb stomping
at the very beginning of it.
Well, technically banister stomping.
But it's a pretty normal scene where they're just like at some gala
or something, take fear.
And this guy just casually talks to him.
And it's like, hey, I got hired to kill you.
And it just whips out a knife, tries to kill him.
It's head smashed.
Do do do.
Oh, I didn't get any metal.
But I looked it up.
It was Slaughterhouse by Power Man is that heavy metal song
that constantly plays.
Oh, that makes sense because they were all excited about Power Man playing.
Yeah, it's the band they go to see.
Yeah.
I know where this.
Yeah, Power Man knows Elvis.
They're classic.
They're classically trained.
I forgot how long that scene goes on for.
He sings the whole song.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, like the whole song.
This is like what?
At the beginning, after he gets out of jail and they go to the concert
and then the dude starts dancing with Lula,
Saylor gets all caught up in his dancing.
And then Saylor fights, stops the entire concert
to confront the dude and smash his face into a cigarette.
But the crowd and then he sees the concert with
he just gets the toss of a mic and just crew insert.
And then they go back to the room.
I love how he's just like,
you guys seem like real solid fellows and you got real big energy.
And like he calls Elvis big.
He's like, you guys, you know, this one hit it.
So he's been like, what, 20 minutes just driving
and banging in hotel rooms, smoking a lot of cigarettes.
I tried to count in the movie.
There's like 30 cigarettes smoking.
So this way.
Oh, so he does double dip a couple of times.
Yeah, this would be like the David Lynch equivalent of a
a drinking game, just a smoking game, just smoke
when they smoke and see if you can. God.
Put down a pack and a half of cigarettes in two hours.
Oh, I love the first time I saw the movie,
but she told him she was pregnant.
He lit two cigarettes.
I thought he was going to give her one.
I'm like, OK, we're going to have to start smoking with two cigarettes.
Yeah, he does that in prison again, too.
Later on, it's so good.
It's like this is how he deals.
Well, right into his son, he's never seen her daughter.
Peter and I were trying to figure this out.
How many films does Nick Cage miss like large swaths of his children's lives
because he's in jail?
Because there's a lot of crossover with Connery, except it's his kids.
Stolen.
Mm hmm. And he again gets a stuffed animal for the kid.
He has sailor has trouble getting the stuffed animal.
This kid for the record.
Yeah, no, he walks up and hands it to him.
Well, like so easy.
How hard, how difficult was that?
But then he does have an anxiety attack and bolts moments later.
I shouldn't be a daddy.
We're skipping right to the end, but he has an anxiety attack.
Oh, it's the break speed off of us gangsters
and then Laura Palmer and gives him some advice.
What does she tell him?
Like it's with your wild at heart.
Don't give up on love.
So he's like, all right.
I wrote down the specific line he told her.
But just saying,
uh, I'm a manslaughterer and a robber and I didn't have parental guidance.
I just love how they keep saying manslaughterer.
That's how is that the preferred nomenclature?
Yeah, manslaughter.
Well, he calls himself a murderer and like a larder and calls him out for it.
Yeah. Yeah.
She's like, you're exaggerating.
Just a manslaughterer.
I love the scene where at one point they jam out with the gas station
and it's like tapping along and like slaves them off.
And she smokes in the car in front of like three no smoking signs with the gas pump.
And then they're driving down the road like sailors sleeping.
And Lou was trying to like find some music.
And like literally every station she turns to is like rape, murder, slaughter,
a bunch of dead turtles, like probably a bunch of dead animals.
A bunch of dead turtles, like probably using the corpses of the river.
And she just has a panic attack and pulls over on the side of the road.
So they have to find some metal thrashing out.
Did he really flip out of that fucking car?
I hope he did.
It looks like it didn't look like it was cut.
Based on everything I've seen interview wise from him in that time period.
Yeah, I'd say he did.
He probably did do that back flip out of the car and then like, oh, wow.
Didn't you go on a talk show and do like a flip?
It was like super.
Yeah. Yeah, he was hyped.
Yeah, he was hyped for that maybe.
He understands how to make a movie Texas style.
I didn't see any cowboy hats, but yeah, they didn't make that porno Texas style.
And I wonder what do they mean by that?
And then they show you what they mean by that.
Everything's bigger in Texas.
And don't forget the silent cowboy and I'm assuming more than a producer
who just stared down.
It was just the cowboy and the business
to stare down sailor as he was gone.
He's right.
We're so far out of gas, I think.
This movie's so fucking wild.
Yeah. At heart.
I don't know.
I just feel like so much of it is like these weird vignettes and like
none of it really matters.
It's just sort of adventures of sailor and Lula.
Well, it's based off of a series of shorter pulp novels. Right.
So which I mean, it makes perfect sense that that would be
how this shook out, but it is pretty weird to watch as a sequence.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's tied together about as well as it could be, I think. Yeah.
A little more coherent than most of David Lynch's other stuff, though,
because he's not always the biggest fan of like
a literal logic, a kind of dream logic.
And time is fluid.
So like it's a lot more structured than it's difficult work, I'd say at least.
But it does have like the big grand of vignettes on the road,
kind of like the straight story did.
I did enjoy how no villains in this movie
got their comeuppance except for Bobby Purdue.
Peru Peru.
Yeah, Bobby Peru got his head.
Yeah, the mom never got her way.
In fact, her photo melted when it got wet.
They did the wicked witch thing.
She was the wicked witch.
For the water on the picture.
She didn't have a mental break.
So she kind of hurt.
Yeah, she got broken mentally.
And that was great.
But Santos didn't have anything bad happen to him.
No. Other than I guess he didn't get that pussy. No.
And what's her face? Isabella Rossellini just books it.
She's just gone in the wind with her bad hair.
Yeah, weird wigs.
So many weird bad wigs in this movie, but like clearly bad wigs.
I think Lynch just doesn't give a shit about that kind of stuff.
Yeah, I think he's got an aesthetic that kind of borders on like
more mental fuckery than visual
cohesion.
That's a necessity.
Yeah, I think that's a good assessment.
Yeah, I love it, though.
I really do enjoy it.
Josie and I were watching this and we're like, man,
it's probably about time to watch Mulholland Drive again.
Again, probably.
I so backed up wild at heart.
I loved the like, oh, man.
So I'm I really enjoy it.
I get into the the weird and wildness of a David Lynch aesthetic for the movie.
And I'll only talk about this one like for this moment.
But everything from like the cuts to fire
and like the the memories, like the way he shows memories, the
a really saturated filters on the lenses and everything.
It's such a he's a better Wes Anderson.
Like he has his own clear style that nobody else can do.
I'm so mad that I actually really agree with you.
Like this is fucking spot on.
Yeah, like nobody makes a David Lynch movie, but David Lynch.
Like nobody makes a Wes Anderson movie like Wes Anderson, but you could.
And you just need to know
130 like famous people to fill out the cast.
One Bill Murray.
Yeah. But I don't know.
I don't know something about David Lynch's style is so
just unbelievable to me.
And like, I just never know what's going to happen.
And so when I watch one of his movies, I'm like, oh, fuck.
Why is it this now?
Oh, OK. Like, oh, this room's all made out of giant red curtains.
Cool.
Well, oh, this is 30 minutes now.
OK, we're doing that.
Well, when Peter when Peter asked me, is David Lynch a good director?
My only thing was, I think he's a good director for David Lynch films.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's quite good at those. Yeah.
Not for the typical film, although he did almost make a star
which would have been bizarre.
I cannot imagine.
David Lynch is a rebel moon. Yeah.
Well, OK, just he made Dune.
So let's think about David Lynch's Dune.
Yeah, I try not to on a regular basis in a Star Wars setting.
So he's had Toto do a soundtrack.
Would Star Wars just be all yes?
Maybe. Yeah.
I want I want backward talking Darth Vader.
Yeah, that would be such a movie.
If only we could live in that reality one day one day.
But it would be it would be very unique to be the most unique Star Wars movie
they made.
It could just be a one off single episode of The Mandalorian and I'd be happy.
Yeah, if only we could get that 45 minutes of just like David Lynch
Star Wars story, that'd be pretty great.
It would just be the Christmas special backwards.
Oh, I like that.
You mean Tobor, it's robots spelled backwards.
Tobor, it's robots.
So on the grid of good movie, good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.
Where do we put Wild at Heart?
I think it is a good movie that is weird and I hate and love.
And it is a great cage performance. Now.
OK, I'll answer this.
But I also want to say like of the matchup, I think it's just awesome
that we had these two movies that have different approaches to the language
with Nicolas Cage saying nothing in one film and the almost romanticized
approach to language that you get in this movie because it like
they don't talk like people.
Like they're talking almost like it's a period piece.
But the period could really be, I mean, anytime pre cell phone.
Yeah. Just I don't know.
I love the way they said things like when they get in the car
to when Saylor and Lula get in the car to take off and it's like stab it and steer.
It's like that's a fucking great way to say just punch it, Chewie.
Yeah. Even mentions how she has a strange way of saying things.
Yeah. And it's the whole cast like everybody just talks kind of strangely.
But there's just a love affair for talking
and like the way you can say things in this film.
Well, you mentioned how like David Lynch has his signature.
Like if you know what to look for, you can tell some things to David Lynch thing.
And like odd dialogue is definitely one of them.
Like you have some pretty natural dialogue in Twin Peaks.
It was really just David Lynch doing David Lynch.
It's weirdly timed dialogue.
People almost seem out of sync.
Yeah. Like there's almost a meter to like how he writes things out
or has people say it that just kind of like throws it.
Yeah. Like working in a odd way, not like not the kind you usually see.
It's a very unique kind.
Yeah. It gets your attention for sure.
And it made me pay attention.
I could pull up any scene in this movie and be like, oh, man, I fucking love this.
I love this line right here just because of delivery or oddness.
I took note so many lines they they said because they were just great one liners.
I forget what the last thing you think.
Give me your top quote.
I do like the last one he told his what was the last advice he gave his son was
they win before you end up dancing at the end of a rope with no music.
The last advice he wanted to give his son before leaving his life forever.
Yeah, he's something he met like 10 minutes ago. Yeah.
Yeah, he's somebody just that the car is like, you know what?
You guys would be better off without me.
Peace. And Pace just gives him his cool look.
His cool guy face like, oh, I'm intimidated by this new daddy.
New daddy.
That envy the line.
My favorite line is probably the the line with the good witch.
The I'm a manslaughter and a robber and I didn't have parental guidance,
which he brings up at the beginning of the movie by telling her about
when he's describing how he started smoking at four years old, I think.
And he's like, my mom died of cancer.
My dad died of cancer drinking.
Pretty much everybody in my family died of that.
But I didn't really have much parental guidance.
At least that's what the public defendant kept telling me.
Yeah. And I like I was like, he was a good man.
He's stuck by me.
That's the closest to a father figure he ever had was his public defender.
Yeah, so that's the only guy he's had in his life.
It's like this.
This is a great, great film and such an interesting performance from that cage.
And one I don't think we've seen a performance like this.
We haven't seen from him really since.
It is pretty unique amongst the.
That's might be the lynchiness of it.
This film definitely came out in 1990 and it's a
before his big action movie turn
and kind of after some of his more adventurous early films,
Vampire's Kiss and stuff like that.
I don't know. It seems like it's such a first wave cage kind of film.
It was definitely a good peanut butter jelly of weirdness.
I think even read he got him out of method acting
because David Lynch was kind of looser with the script and rewrites
and wanted him to like play with the character more.
So I think it ended up influencing him a lot from what I read at least.
But it is a good blend. It's not his typical weirdness.
Yeah, I mean, you get a little bit of just David Lynch leaking in.
And it's really nice.
But there's the important thing of that was his actual jacket
that he gave Laura Dern afterwards.
So that's insane that it was just out of his closet.
It wouldn't be the first time he's brought his own personal properties
because like, well, maybe it was the first.
It might have been the first. Yeah.
But the car that he drives in Sorcerer's Apprentice was his car.
And that's pretty cool, too.
Well, and one thing I don't think I've heard anybody mention
is that that jacket is in a video game series.
Like there is a primary character in the Yakuza game series that wears that.
Majima wears that exact. And he's my favorite character in the whole series.
And it also represents individual freedom.
And whatever the line was.
Yeah, I've been trying to find like a good quality snake skin jacket
for the last two years now.
And I got to say, it's not something I'm going to find online.
I'm going to have to start going to like snake dealers.
Snakeman. Yeah, snakeman.
And start talking to.
This is how we actually meet Nicolas Cage.
You just in like talking to a snake dealer. Yeah.
Oh, I'm also Nick Cage's snake guy.
It would be beautiful.
Can we get that guy on the podcast? Probably.
I'll throw back in to where we were and say that I fucking love this movie.
It's a great movie and a great Nicolas Cage.
I'm high on this horse.
So I shouldn't be smoking horse.
Don't smoke horse.
That's when you get that weird high voice and talk about pigeons
or whatever the fuck. High on a horse.
That could be sniffing glue.
Oh, yeah. Get that hoof.
I'm a hoof man myself.
Huffing mouth disease.
You don't eat it.
All right. So what movie goes forward?
And we'll pitch it to lunchbox first.
Yeah. Which movie do you think should go forward?
Did I need to do the good cage?
Well, I mean, I went into this bias.
I think it's great cage. Great movie.
Even one of the lower David Lynch movies is better than most other movies.
In my opinion.
Yeah, they just offer so much.
They're rich in world setting and for nothing else.
And click. Oh, God.
Don't even. OK, we're going back.
We're talking about Dell.
Yeah, I love Dell.
I'm making a sandwich.
I love Crispin Glover and I love Crispin Glover.
I'm so glad you said that.
I had a whole like page on Dell.
He's one of my favorite bits of the movie.
It's the same thing for something that's like two minutes long.
Yeah, it's our second Crispin Glover
like cameo in a Nicolas Cage movie.
And it's just insane.
It doesn't leave an impression.
The guy obsessed with.
Who has cockroaches in his underwear.
He was putting a cockroach on his butthole.
On his anus.
Yeah, right on his anus.
Also like middle of the night in the dark.
Isla sandwiches.
What are you doing, honey?
I'm making my.
He's just destroying the sandwiches like he makes sandwiches
and then dices them up like with his face.
Oh, yes.
I just can't get over his weird like weird butthole dance with the roaches.
He's like, rising around.
He doesn't look sad, though.
I mean, would you with roaches on your butt?
Check back next week.
Let me see if that was on the something.
Yeah.
OK.
What are you going to rock paper scissors?
Well, I was going to finish this up real quick
so that I can get distracted again.
Get high on that horse.
Yeah. Lunchbox.
Your opinion. Yes.
My pain was wild at heart.
Well, yeah. Not to lead the witness.
Yes.
All right, Nick.
I'm a wild at heart guy.
This is definitely my movie.
You're wearing the shirt.
I was going to say Primal, but I guess I guess I'm outvoted here.
I'll go wild at her.
Hmm. If primal's on the table,
I'd have to go wild at heart.
Yeah. But I mean, I'm not going to say anything.
This is a great movie.
It's fucking weird and I am uncomfortable, but I really like it.
And Willy's Wonderland is fun and people should watch it.
It's 90 minutes.
Fucking crush it. Yeah.
But it's only 20 if you skip all of it like Peter did.
Yeah, man. It rules just like kind of get all to the action.
You know, that might be a better way to watch that movie.
You can skip all the teenagers doing dumb shit
and you can just get like him fighting robots and playing pinball and dancing.
It rules. Yeah.
I think it would have been way better if it was just no dialogue
and fighting monsters.
There's like a couple lines of dialogue from the sheriff.
Look at guy who owned the place at the beginning and end of the movie.
That's all you need. Yep.
You know, it just came to me now,
but I do really like that he doesn't talk much like Link never talks.
So he's just your silent protagonist.
I did have a thought of he very much seemed like a video game protagonist.
He was literally just walking around quietly dealing with problems,
taking quests as presented to him and doing the quest.
Yeah, he would engage in conversations.
Now, if only the D and D players would do that.
Oh, well, shit.
Thanks for being here. Lunchbox.
Do you have anything that you want to pitch and promote?
Yeah. Where can people find you? Yeah.
I'm always terrible at this.
You can find me on Instagram is the main place I post my art at lunchbox underscore
ink with the K because I think I'm clever.
That's where I post all my drawings and my tattoo stuff, which is my day job.
I manager over a tattoo shop over by UNCC over here in Charlotte. Cool.
And then I do digital illustration and such on the side when I'm not busy drawing.
Mo
I'm going to remember again if I do.
That's awesome.
I hope it's exactly the same.
He has 118 films and he's five upcoming on according to be including another
Lords of War, which is now the Carpenter's Son.
Oh, yeah. The horror Jesus movie.
Yeah. Horror Jesus.
The Gunslingers, Long Legs and Noir TV series.
I'm assuming that's Spider-Man.
Yeah. But it only says two episodes.
Interesting. We'll find out.
So one hundred and twenty something cages on the horizon.
One hundred and twenty three.
Yeah, you got it.
Yeah, I can do this. It's like 50 something more.
It's great.
I feel like I hope they've gotten better as I've thought.
Do you have a favorite Nicholas Cage hairstyle or hairline to draw?
Oh, that's a really good question.
I appreciate that question.
Raising Arizona hair is fun.
Oh, like those fights. Good hair.
I've got to do a lot of long hair cages, a lot of facial hair cages.
I like drawing the facial hair cages.
You know, you get some more distinct.
You know, you get to have some fun in the chin area instead of having to get it
just right.
I will say I do not care for his beard in Willy's Wonderland.
I think it needs to come back along the under jaw portion more.
Agreed. Like he cuts it too far away from the Adam's apple.
Not his strongest beard he's had.
It's not like red.
It's not like drive angry or yeah. Yeah.
Or Pete.
He was solving. Yeah.
Beard makes a good beard.
Pigs a good beard.
And he wears a union suit.
I think it's at a list of like the Ray Ray Ray, his facial hair or body.
We talk about Stern and Bush.
I go by Stern and Bush a lot.
Which Sean's ex wife apparently.
Yeah. Meredith sent me a voice message last week being like,
you're going to think I'm stupid for this, but
I thought you were saying Stern man Bush for the longest time.
Not Stern and Bush.
Which is 100% what it's going to be from now on.
It is a stern man Bush.
Just a gruff pubic area.
Yeah, you get it.
Hmm. Stern man Bush.
So you need to rate the Bush and the like facial hair her move,
which while that art did have stern and Bush some, I believe.
They did. He did.
Also, how far back the hairline is.
The that too.
The chest hair in Wild at Heart always gets me because it looks like
he had it shaved in like a capital I and then grew the pack hair back out
like he had shaved it away previously.
It's just thicker in the center and the underlining.
Well, because Valley Girl would have been around before that.
So he probably was shaved.
Yeah. Is that the one review that's on the beach and had like a Y on it?
It looked like it was in a permissible shape.
Yeah. I remember Valley Girl.
It looks very strangely intentional.
Like God doesn't grow a facial just hair in this sort of shape.
Our God does. Nicholas Cage.
Last thoughts, anything?
Both these movies are worth watching. Go watch them.
Yeah. But definitely watch Wild at Heart when you're ready to pay attention.
Oh, yeah.
Willy's Wonderland. You can chill.
Yeah, that's Willy's Wonderland while you make dinner. Yeah.
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Well, thanks so much for coming on.
Yeah, it was really nice to talk to you.
Thanks for having me. It was fun.
Yeah. Sometime when I go visit my brother down in Orlando,
I'll have to stop over
North Carolina and maybe get get a Nicolas Cage tattoo from you.
I have to tattoo Nick Cage at some point on somebody.
I am amazed you haven't.
Yeah, I don't know how I haven't.
Like I'll do it on myself. I need to tattoo myself several times.
I just started the project of tattooing my left arm, which has been fun.
Yeah, I hope to be your first person.
They're not non self non person.
Your first non person to tattoo Nick. I'm Nick.
You should get the pig from pig.
Oh, you should.
All right, man. Well, thank you so much for being here.
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me again.
You guys are. Bye bye.
Thank you.
Bye bye.
Now, just in case we need it,
I'm going to say we're going to talk to Darryl real quick about Bobby
Peru and put it in right here.
OK, we'll edit that out when we never get a hold of Darryl.
Correct. Yeah, OK.
I haven't seen that movie in such a long time.
My my real solid only memory of it.
Wait, there were tiny people in it at some point.
And then I think there was the like trash man,
like not trash person.
Let me rephrase.
There was the person by the dumpsters.
That's like a jump scare with the classic David Lynch like bar.
Just read trash bag out of nowhere.
Yeah, trash man.
That's all I remember.
I think there's a dead person.
Oh, no.