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Hey everybody, it's producer Peter.

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The recording with our friend Lunchbox, Nick Cage, artist and tattoo artist got a little

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funky with the audio.

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We ended up having to use sort of our scratch track from discord to make sure everything

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was as audible as possible.

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And it's not perfect at all times.

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So I apologize for that.

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But I think you can still get the gist and have a good time with us.

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So thanks for listening.

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Yeah I love the fact that we had to have a conversation about your government name and

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your actual name.

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I probably forgot your government name, but I do thoroughly respect the application of

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the term.

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How did you end up as Lunchbox?

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Well my name I was born with was a little too common down in California where I was

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going to college.

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There's like five of us in the circles.

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We all ended up getting nicknames.

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It originally came from dogma.

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The sound Bob was called Lunchbox once.

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And between that just my eating habits back then kind of stuck.

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And then I kept it professionally because like my names were way too common.

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Matthew and Chris are names people forget all the time.

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Yeah that makes a ton of sense.

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It's surprising how often people forget their artists name.

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They just go into a tattoo shop.

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They're like I don't know.

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It's like out of the ages and tattoos.

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It's like that's not a good clue man.

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He's like mid height.

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He had short hair.

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So yeah no people remember this much more.

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I get a lot more comments on my name than they used to.

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I have a very generic appearance so I blend into a lot of.

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It's fucking true.

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Every time I go out I see someone who I think is you but it's not you.

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Because I don't go out.

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Just one of those faces.

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That's part of it.

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Yeah.

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That was your first clue.

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It's beyond just face.

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It's like a walk in a body too.

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You're just like an everyman.

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Just a confidence.

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Yeah.

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It's the confidence.

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Yeah that's really what gets it.

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It's a confidence man.

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That's it.

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Yeah exactly.

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You get it.

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Now that I think about it I don't ever see you out.

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I see you in my house and I see you at the bar.

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Yeah.

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But never in between.

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I've got a tunnel.

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It takes me between the two.

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So are you just the silver four door car of people?

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Because like that's what I drive.

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I get it lost in a parking lot all the time.

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Like I constantly forget where I park because it has no distinguishing features.

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I actually tried to go the opposite way when I bought my last car and I bought just a bright

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orange Subaru.

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I always can find that.

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Yeah it was good for like a couple months and then all of a sudden it's like there's

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three bright orange Subarus on my block.

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Every time I see one I'm like oh it's Nick.

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It's not.

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They're foreign this neighborhood alone.

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Not including when you come to visit.

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It's the burden of being a trendsetter.

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I guess.

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Everybody kind of looked at me in that thing and it's like oh yeah you know that kind of

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looks like it was me driving it like you get a gauge of like how good you would look whenever

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I sit in a vehicle and you're like yeah.

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OK that could work.

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See I don't see that.

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I don't look anything like you.

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No I mean maybe if I sat in a front of a taco truck.

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Whoa alright.

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What?

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Sean likes to eat.

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I do.

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And I do like tacos.

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Tacos are good.

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Undeniably.

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They look at you like you're a little bit weird.

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They don't know what I look like Peter.

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That's true.

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Yeah they do.

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They look at your face all the time on the art.

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That's fair.

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They don't know which one is which.

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You're the one that looks like everybody.

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What was the last drawing I had posted?

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And can I post pictures in this channel?

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What number did I get to?

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The answer in general is X-Men 97 is so good.

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It is.

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It's great.

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Is it?

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I've been hearing that.

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It's amazing.

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I got a Cyclops tattoo because I got so into X-Men 97.

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That's pretty hardcore.

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It's right next to my Magneto tattoo that I've had for 10 years now.

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Oh god it's Brent Ryan versus Bill Furpo.

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Fucking Bill Furpo.

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I hate that that is a name that I just always remember.

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What's that from?

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Trapped in Paradise.

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Oh.

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No full disclosure I have not watched all of these.

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You haven't watched all of them?

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Not all of them.

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I've watched a lot of them.

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What's your body count at this point?

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I don't know what my body count is.

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I've seen most of the Nick Cage movies or at least the relevant ones I feel.

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I thought I had seen a lot of the relevant ones before too but it turns out I had only

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watched like seven Nicolas Cage movies.

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Now you've watched like 70.

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I think it's over at 74.

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74?

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Yeah.

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I haven't started, because we were gonna watch Unbearable Weight of Massive Town.

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My brother got this idea for us to watch everything that was even vaguely mentioned in that movie.

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So you've seen The Crudes?

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Yes.

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I watched The Crudes too.

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I had a friend, we had a friend of ours who watched it with us just describe The Crudes

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one.

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Hey, we figured that'd be good enough.

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And it was.

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I lost at all.

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I feel like you've probably got the gist pretty easily on that one.

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Yeah.

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that you watched that you regretted watching.

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I think there were some stinkers in there.

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There's got to be.

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Was it guarding tests?

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Candy Corelli's mandolin wasn't as boring as I expected it to be.

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Oh, that was like shockingly not terrible.

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It's so mediocre.

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It's so it's just fine.

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Yeah, I would.

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I would also describe it as shockingly not terrible.

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Like, how about that?

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Yeah, perfect.

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That's also what we came to last episode.

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Yeah, again.

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Again, like I'm sure like the first time we watched it, we're like,

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I don't know, it's fine.

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Yeah, but it's not that other movie.

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So it was better than whatever it was that other time.

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Yeah, yeah, like I know there are worse engagement for sure.

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Well, I'm just going to jump right in here.

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Otherwise, we're never going to get to it.

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Welcome to Kate. Welcome back to cage match.

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Colon around about way of meeting Nicholas Gage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host colon Nick.

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So you came in real hard on that colon and I got excited.

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I wanted to colon.

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And our son colon with acid yellow.

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Sorry. Oh, boy.

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Yeah. So what do we do here, Sean?

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We here we take 64 Nicholas Cage movies as decided by us

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in bracket style March Madness down to the two

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catious films as decided by Nick and myself and sometimes Peter.

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Yeah, but never our guests.

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No, sorry, lunchbox.

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It's fine. Also, who are you?

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Who are you and why are you in our discord?

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I was invited.

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I started a year and some odd time ago.

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Started the challenge of drawing every Nick Cage.

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And now here I am.

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It's a beautiful endeavor.

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It is like there's certain sin to it.

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I started to worry like maybe like a dozen in the end,

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but like really after you've drawn him like 20 something times,

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you kind of get like a Stockholm syndrome for it.

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I feel. Yeah, we feel that we get it.

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Yeah, like you see his face in your dreams and stuff.

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We've been doing this for nearly what two years?

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Yeah. Two years in July.

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Yeah. Two years.

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Yeah, it's a long time.

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I've been doing this for at least a year.

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Been drawing for longer.

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But drug Nick Cage for a year or so.

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It would be amazing if that was the way you started getting into drawing.

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Kind of like the guy who was drawing in diesel every day.

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I just have to draw this man.

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And like this is going to look like my fashion in drawing.

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He's my muse.

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I must paint you.

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There was a guy who is drawing Mike Trout every day until like something happened.

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I was like, that's weird.

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Like I didn't really follow it.

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So I don't know if they improved or not or if they even stuck with it.

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I saw like five Mike Trout drawings and I was like, that's a really weird thing.

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Also, what a great name.

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Thanks. Yeah, thanks for a lot of this.

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I mean, we wouldn't have found each other if not for Reddit.

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So there you go.

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So, you know, there's something it did.

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Star-crossed lovers.

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Do you have a favorite Nicolas Cage you've drawn so far?

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Oh, man, there has been some.

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I think it's a draw him with the helmet on.

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I enjoyed that.

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That was a good one.

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I liked drawing red just because I like red.

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Big fan of Mandy.

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I actually wore my cheddar goblin shirt for like, you know, sick.

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Oh, yeah.

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Nice representation.

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I think I didn't want to seem like I came in biased, but I I'm wearing my wild at heart shirt today.

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So I'm all nice.

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I mean, I tried to go.

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I do want a Willie's Wonderland shirt.

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You wore a Willie Wonderland shirt.

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I want one.

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You're not on camera.

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You could just say you're wearing a Willie's Wonderland shirt.

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Say it now.

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Take a fresh take.

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Now I've already admitted I haven't.

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I refuse to lie.

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Good.

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The sin would be just vocal.

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We'd hear it.

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We could tell why I wasn't your choice.

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I'm integrity.

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Yeah, you're integrity.

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Said no one hosting a Nicholas Cage podcast.

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Definitely not this podcast.

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You know, it was fun was drawing the animated cages because it was kind of like this little island in the middle of all of his face is I get to draw something actually different.

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Wait, did you draw G Force?

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Yeah, yeah, I drew them all from G Force not long ago.

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Yeah.

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Speckles.

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But I know what his character look like and I know its name, because that's what I said all the time.

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Unfortunately, I remember all of the hamster names from that.

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I was like, why is that stuck in my brain?

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Okay, so there's Darwin, Juarez, Blaster and Hurley.

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Yeah, what about Steve Buscemi?

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I can't remember what the mice were named.

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He was a hamster.

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Hamster whatever fucking same thing.

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God damn it.

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Respect the film.

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Respect the craft.

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I don't know.

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His name was probably like nibbles.

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That sounds pretty good.

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I believe that I'm not going to check.

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Good enough for us.

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We're a serious podcast.

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Well, speaking of animated cages, I think we do have to discuss briefly the Spider-Man noir is happening.

266
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Yeah.

267
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Live action.

268
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Spider-Man.

269
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Yeah, this week in cage.

270
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Yeah, seems like that's going to be a real deal.

271
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You know, we might be living at the end of days, but fuck if it isn't a ride.

272
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Yeah, I think it's a ride.

273
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I think it's a ride.

274
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Yeah.

275
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So the surfer got a six minute standing Oh, at Cannes.

276
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I know.

277
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They say it's like a real return to like a Mandy ask kind of performance.

278
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Pretty excited for the surfer.

279
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And we also have long legs.

280
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Which continues to show us like nothing.

281
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,880
Yeah.

282
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I think the cage is a current trajectory and like more horror and creepy shit.

283
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Yeah.

284
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Creepy shit films.

285
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I think, you know, he's moved past action.

286
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He's too old for that.

287
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Well, and definitely romantic comedy is out the window at this point.

288
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I beg to differ.

289
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We could have a return to figure.

290
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I mean, it could be like an about Schmidt situation.

291
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Mandy's a love story.

292
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He's old at this point.

293
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,880
Mandy is a love story though, like I will agree with that.

294
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It's a lost love story.

295
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Sorry, spoilers.

296
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,880
I mean, like unforgivens kind of a love story, right?

297
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That's not a big age movie.

298
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There are movies that other people read.

299
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It was a Clint Eastwood movie.

300
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We don't watch those.

301
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We don't have time.

302
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I don't have time.

303
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I'm about to have a baby.

304
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I mean, not me, but.

305
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Oh, geez.

306
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It's fine. It's fine.

307
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You're a man. You can say it.

308
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That's true.

309
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Don't limit yourself.

310
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You're a man.

311
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The world's your oyster.

312
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Give birth.

313
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You're a white man.

314
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True.

315
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So as I was saying on this podcast, we take two Nicholas Cage movies and decide which is the best cage film as decided by Nick and myself.

316
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And this week we are discussing David Lynch's Wild at Heart and some other guys.

317
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Willie's Wonderland.

318
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Some other guys.

319
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Willie's Wonderland.

320
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Nailed it.

321
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I want to talk about Willie's Wonderland.

322
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Mostly I want to talk about the character of Tex.

323
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McAdoo.

324
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Tex McAdoo.

325
00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,880
And why does he have a fake mustache on?

326
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880
Well, because he's from Texas, so he needs a mustache.

327
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But I'm sure they found the actor like a week beforehand.

328
00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,880
I just love his shitty and grin is like, and now you're an employee.

329
00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,880
Yeah, it just seems like such an odd thing.

330
00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,880
OK, so you confirmed that the mustache was fake.

331
00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,880
Oh, it's hella fake.

332
00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,880
It looks like it's a piece of paper with like nine hairs across.

333
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,880
At least it wasn't CGI.

334
00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,880
Take that, Joss Whedon's Justice League.

335
00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,880
You had a relevant hot take.

336
00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,880
Well, that was a removal removal of a mustache.

337
00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,880
Right. Yeah, that's fair.

338
00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:29,880
Yeah, this is the inversion.

339
00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,880
OK, you got me there.

340
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:40,880
I would love to see a fake like CG added mustache that like kind of slides in the frame and like animation doesn't snap.

341
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,880
That filter.

342
00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:49,880
Yeah, every once in a while it kind of disappears and you have dog ears, a big tongue that just licks the audience.

343
00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,880
You got it. It's a terrible movie.

344
00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,880
So Lunchbox, had you seen Willy's Wonderland at this point?

345
00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:56,880
No, no, this is the first time.

346
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,880
This is the first time I've seen Willy's Wonderland.

347
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,880
It was OK.

348
00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:08,880
How do you feel about our namesake here not having a single line of dialogue?

349
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,880
That I liked.

350
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:16,880
Actually, one big criticism I'd have, I think the movie could have done better with less dialogue, even with a silent protagonist.

351
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,880
I feel like there was too much talking in the movie.

352
00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880
Yeah, those kids do talk a lot.

353
00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880
It's mostly exposition.

354
00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,880
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

355
00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:32,880
Like I think in my notes I wrote, I wrote where there was two separate exposition dogs that just tell you a story.

356
00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:40,880
I mean, you could have cut dialogue in the super happy fun room or whatever when the kids are getting down.

357
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,880
You just need like sex, sex, sex.

358
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,880
Oh, quick look over.

359
00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,880
Sex, sex, sex.

360
00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880
And then like the alligator is doing like nothing now.

361
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,880
So also I think it would have been great if the gator popped up out of the ball pit.

362
00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,880
I was going to say that's my biggest beef with this movie is no kid dies in the ball pit by the alligator.

363
00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,880
Yeah, why was there no monster in the ball pit?

364
00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880
I watched this with my wife and she said it was like, oh crap, a ball pit.

365
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,880
You know, there's snakes in that thing.

366
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,880
Like I don't like ball pit.

367
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,880
So it's a good there's just be in a ball pit.

368
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,880
Relax.

369
00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,880
Crocodile just sits up like the undertaker.

370
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,880
This is kind of like wasted opportunity.

371
00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:28,880
The movie like a couple more good decisions and they would have had a pretty solid like B or like if Sam Raimi had made this, it would have been great.

372
00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,880
Fuck. Yeah.

373
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:39,880
If it was like puppets instead of like an excess of CG and if like they didn't talk so much because I feel like it definitely took me out of it every time they talked and then got all CG.

374
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,880
They cut around for them.

375
00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,880
Our puppets like the ostrich was a puppet.

376
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,880
Yeah, I want you to tell him.

377
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,880
Ostrich is pretty solid.

378
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,880
They had the goods like Sub Zero spine.

379
00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,880
Like that one was good.

380
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,880
That was a big fan of that one.

381
00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,880
The ostrich and the gorilla are the two best fight scenes.

382
00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:03,880
I feel I really enjoyed the nighty night fight again.

383
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:12,880
Enormous thick foam sword and like just suspending disbelief and being like that could totally cut a person in half.

384
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,880
It's like four inches of foam, but it could.

385
00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,880
Yeah, it's got it's got Satan's edge to some sort of lacquer on it.

386
00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,880
How long do you think he's taking those breaks?

387
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,880
I mean, he's taking a full 15, maybe just a 10.

388
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,880
Yeah, it seems like a 10.

389
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,880
How often did he take a break?

390
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,880
Because he's taking him like he's taking like six in that one evening.

391
00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,880
One night, I guess, Tex never said how many breaks to take and he never takes a lunch.

392
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,880
So he doesn't take a lunch.

393
00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,880
That's true.

394
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,880
Just punch pop.

395
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,880
He also renovates her business in a night, which seems a little much.

396
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,880
Where did the teen bodies go?

397
00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,880
Yeah.

398
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,880
That was my I didn't think about this my first viewing and I thought about it today.

399
00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,880
A bunch of teens died, but he finished cleaning that place up.

400
00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,880
So are they just like in the dumpster?

401
00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,880
Yeah, like they held up their end of the deal.

402
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,880
He agreed to this.

403
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,880
I think the animatronics eat them.

404
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,880
He did spend extra involved.

405
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,880
And that was all great.

406
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,880
Everything was a pinball machine, including his improvised disco dance.

407
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,880
That was my favorite scene for sure.

408
00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,880
It just like power move at the end.

409
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,880
Yeah.

410
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:32,880
Yeah, I like the kind of frosted lens, like kind of soft colors, like beaming through as he's just.

411
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,880
Oh, he's fucking feeling that.

412
00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,880
Yeah, he's tripping out on whatever drink he's drinking.

413
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:38,880
He's gotten in the zone.

414
00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,880
It's the pinball.

415
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,880
The first one is that they spent a lot of time on the pinball machine.

416
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,880
They do spend a lot of time with the pinball machine.

417
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,880
And I like that.

418
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,880
It's a nice break from the ridiculousness of the premise of the movie.

419
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,880
Is this a sequel to Tommy, the pinball wizard?

420
00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,880
Yeah, the pinball pinball barbarian.

421
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,880
Where are we going to go with that?

422
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:09,880
Now, for headcanon, it makes me enjoy the movie to believe that this is just red on his way back from somewhere.

423
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,880
This is just like a noteworthy experience for him.

424
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:22,880
My headcanon is he's a high level like fighter or something that just happens to be in a low level dungeon.

425
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:32,880
He just has to clear it like it's less work for him to just do the quest than to go around and get his car fixed elsewise.

426
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:39,880
So he just shows up and it's like, fine, I'll kill your little monsters, but you're not going to get a word out of me for it.

427
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,880
I think he was a form in a former life. He was a costume mascot somewhere.

428
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,880
No, you think he's a water baby with water, baby.

429
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,880
What does that mean?

430
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,880
What does that mean, Nick?

431
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,880
I'm assuming it means he has water for brains.

432
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,880
Oh, I got you.

433
00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,880
OK. Ostrich comes to life, tries to kill you.

434
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,880
Maybe that's a one off. You go back to clean when the gorilla like

435
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:11,880
surprises new say bots into the into the bathroom and gorilla greetings you.

436
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,880
All right. Maybe just preemptively take out a couple more animatronics.

437
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,880
Yeah, like he has some weird moral code against killing them when they're not trying to kill him.

438
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,880
Like beat the shit out of those fucking things.

439
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,880
To be fair, the like constraints of the quest were not killed the animatronics. It was clean up.

440
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,880
Clean up. Yeah. Yeah. If we're talking about quests, you're right.

441
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,880
That's actually wasting time destroying the robots.

442
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,880
It just takes away from the amount of cleaning.

443
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,880
It's vandalizing the property you're restoring anyway.

444
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,880
At some point, he was going to have to buff Willie's tough.

445
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:54,880
I do like how him and Willie, when they have their fight, Willie kicks his ass, throws him in the ball pit, then just like goes for a pee.

446
00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,880
Yeah. Just walk wanders off so he can get up and go like load up his burlap sack with punch pop and

447
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,880
like tape a broom handle together instead of, you know, going and picking up that shotgun.

448
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,880
Yeah. I don't know how the sack of soda was the most effective way.

449
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,880
Well, when Willie stepped on the shotgun, he broke it.

450
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,880
So the shotgun was out of commission.

451
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:22,880
Here's something I noticed on this viewing when the sheriff gets like smacked in half, when it cuts back to so cool,

452
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,880
when it cuts back to Willie, the top half of the torso is just in the side of the camera.

453
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,880
I'm assuming it's just hanging from like a gurney or something.

454
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,880
So it's just like hanging there. There's just a fist hanging there.

455
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,880
There are some could be embedded in the wall, but probably not.

456
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:49,880
Yeah. So speaking of the burlap sack of punch pop, I love that he has that nice car.

457
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:57,880
And like by all accounts, like does not look to be a vagrant, carries all of his shit in a burlap sack.

458
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,880
Like one used potato sack. Show me a better sack.

459
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,880
Bindle. I don't I'm not. Yeah.

460
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,880
All right. I take it back.

461
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,880
Thank God this isn't a visual medium for everyone else yet.

462
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,880
Yeah. Find us on YouTube.

463
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,880
I was on a porn club account going. We stopped on that idea.

464
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,880
Yeah. Well, I just haven't had time to pursue it again.

465
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,880
So you keep getting distracted. Yeah. Every time I log in, like something else comes up.

466
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,880
It's sort of like edging for us being on that.

467
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,880
I think this is a very fun movie. I think it's a very low commitment film.

468
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:41,880
Like you don't need to ask much of yourself and you shouldn't ask much of this movie or your wife.

469
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:49,880
The thing about wife, my wife, until 13 minutes into this movie, thought we were watching a Willy Wonka movie.

470
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,880
Oh yeah. OK. Different.

471
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:58,880
Like when does Gene Wilder come out? It was often a very strange start.

472
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,880
Nick Cage is a mute Willy Wonka. Yeah.

473
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,880
She was rolling with it for 13 whole minutes. So I found myself.

474
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,880
I mean, I was watching on Hulu, which I think everyone probably was.

475
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,880
And you can skip like 10 second increments on Hulu like really rapidly.

476
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:21,880
And I found myself only jumping to the fight scenes because I just didn't give a shit about anything else.

477
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,880
They don't really build the tension between those terrible and like building any sort of tension.

478
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,880
It was just stuff happened. Yeah.

479
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,880
And like the the cuck dude, like who fucking cares?

480
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:38,880
Like you're pining after Liv and then the weird like chameleon is going to try and fuck you or whatever.

481
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880
And you deserve to die.

482
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:49,880
Yeah, like the terrible, the terrible teenagers were just regular terrible, not like satire, terrible like the Tucker and Dale kids or something like that.

483
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,880
Yeah, I love that movie.

484
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,880
See, Doug or Dale's great because it's a good comedy and a good horror.

485
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,880
This was not good at either one of those.

486
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,880
Like I think somebody made your mom and dad episode that it was not a good horror movie.

487
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,880
It's not a good comedy movie.

488
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,880
It's not like something like the Evil Dead show where they do a good job both.

489
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,880
That's terrific because that's my opinion of mom and dad.

490
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,880
I have the exact opposite opinion here where it's like it's not like a great comedy.

491
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,880
It's not a great horror, but I don't know.

492
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,880
I feel like it's at least there's more commitment to I don't know.

493
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,880
Maybe I just like the character of the janitor more.

494
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,880
I do like the character of the janitor more than Brent.

495
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,880
There's something charming about this movie that I'll watch it.

496
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,880
I don't think I would say no if somebody was like, want to watch it.

497
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,880
I was like, sure. Why not?

498
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,880
But it's a little commitment for me. It's like it is 90 minutes.

499
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,880
You can just kind of go in and out of I do love I do love all the songs.

500
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,880
It's weird that it ends on Free Bird.

501
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,880
Yeah. Our second was so strange.

502
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,880
Like had they just because I mean, they made up new fucking songs for this movie.

503
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,880
Had they just made up a free bird esk tune.

504
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,880
Nobody would have thought twice about it.

505
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,880
That would have been fucking funny.

506
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,880
Also, for the license and right to play free bird, you could have like

507
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,880
made the Willy fight actually look good.

508
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880
Don't call it the Willy fight.

509
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,880
It was. I mean, when Nick Cage pulls out his tummy sticks and

510
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,880
I do want the Willy's Wonderland theme to have it for reasons that are not going to go into.

511
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,880
So creepy.

512
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,880
It's a.

513
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,880
I respect it.

514
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,880
And we want you to have fun.

515
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,880
Hey, shoulders, knees and toes and toes.

516
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,880
This is still the only time that I ever hear anything beyond that part of that song ever.

517
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,880
And then I have to remember that it's like, oh, yeah, it's like shins and hips and tummies.

518
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,880
And no, that's years.

519
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,880
That's the weird horny version that they made. It is not that.

520
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,520
Those hips don't lie.

521
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,620
That's the Shakira version.

522
00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:00,420
I disagree.

523
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:04,020
That's the if you sing it to a child, you do not do the tummies and hips.

524
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:05,620
I disagree.

525
00:25:05,620 --> 00:25:08,720
I don't remember a second part of the song or second verse.

526
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,220
Like I remember that there is a second verse and it it does talk about other body parts.

527
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:18,320
Eyes, ears, mouth and nose, head, shoulders, knees and toes.

528
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280
OK, but where do the tummies and the hips come in?

529
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,380
For killing teens. Nice.

530
00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:29,120
Get us out of this one.

531
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,880
Some teens die in a wild at heart, so wild at heart.

532
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,060
Now we got to talk about the matrix.

533
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,060
You get segue now.

534
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:39,320
Take it back.

535
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,020
That was really grasping to

536
00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:44,820
you don't need to get us out of there.

537
00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:46,180
What teens died in that.

538
00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:47,720
The car crash.

539
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,160
Oh, I mean, the people who are who are teens.

540
00:25:51,380 --> 00:25:54,980
I mean, to be fair, if this were the 90s, we could be plain teens.

541
00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:55,820
That's correct.

542
00:25:55,820 --> 00:26:00,060
The other half of the Twin Peaks cast when they die.

543
00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:00,880
Right. All right.

544
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,680
Yeah. Also, one of the two is Audrey Horn.

545
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,960
So there was that one of like six Twin Peaks people in this.

546
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:09,260
I forget how many. Yes.

547
00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:11,260
Now we'll get yeah, we'll get into that in a minute.

548
00:26:11,460 --> 00:26:13,860
You got to still talk about one more thing on Willie's Wonderland.

549
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:16,620
And the Willie's Wonderland, the matrix of Willie's Wonderland,

550
00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:20,020
whether it's a good movie, a bad movie, a good Nicholas Cage performance,

551
00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:22,320
a bad Nicholas Cage performance or somewhere in the middle.

552
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,980
Where where do you rank this film in this cage?

553
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,080
They're not great movie, but the cage performance was solid.

554
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,440
I think the janitor was the strong point of the whole movie.

555
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,480
That's how he overcame all those obstacles through strength.

556
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Yeah, that's true.

557
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,240
The sheer tyranny of will.

558
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,380
Disgumption is too far.

559
00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:43,080
Yeah, I'm with that assessment.

560
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080
It is not a good movie like on paper.

561
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,680
This doesn't fly.

562
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,420
It's a great Nicholas Cage performance.

563
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:51,240
It's magnetic.

564
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,440
I'll use that magnetic is a good word for it.

565
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,340
Yeah, I am not not a good film, but a very entertaining performance

566
00:26:58,340 --> 00:26:59,980
by Nicholas Cage.

567
00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:05,480
I forgot when he is going to fight the fairy and the chameleon.

568
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,580
And he's got like is the menage a tour, a tour.

569
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
And you know, he it just like when he even profiled and he just starts

570
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,820
shaking when he kills a siren, Sarah.

571
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Yeah, Sarah, siren or siren, Sarah,

572
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,820
by like snapping her neck.

573
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:24,740
Oh, with his legs, with his legs.

574
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:26,620
So he's just sitting on her face.

575
00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:29,280
And I'm like, oh, you can't can't show this in England.

576
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040
Did they face sitting in porn?

577
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:36,080
What? Oh, this would have been like a decade and a half.

578
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,580
We got to talk to Darryl.

579
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:39,180
Oh, I mean, that's Darryl right now.

580
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:40,880
Darryl. Yeah, Darryl.

581
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,780
Darryl, can you watch me sitting porn?

582
00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:44,240
Can you sit on a face?

583
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,420
Sit aloud.

584
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:48,440
Now, the funniest part of the movie probably I found probably was

585
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,820
when he took his break in the middle of a fight and just handed the girl the blade.

586
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,420
That was one of my favorite parts.

587
00:27:55,420 --> 00:27:56,180
That's what I wanted to know.

588
00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:58,820
How long his breaks were, because like, how long was she fighting that chameleon?

589
00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:03,620
Yeah, like how long was she just alone trying to stab that thing?

590
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,580
At least 10 minutes.

591
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:09,220
BBC article. Why are people face sitting outside of Parliament?

592
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:11,580
Why are people face sitting outside of Parliament?

593
00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:14,920
So it was only a decade ago now.

594
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,940
That's still relevant.

595
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:21,240
Yeah, they banned a bunch of different sex acts in porn in British,

596
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,340
including face sitting.

597
00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:24,440
Do they return them to the people?

598
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Put them right back on the faces.

599
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840
I'll do my research tonight.

600
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Prohibition all over again.

601
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,820
Yeah.

602
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,020
So with face sitting instead of

603
00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:36,620
a face sitting, where do you put this movie on the grid?

604
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,920
Bad, good, bad entertaining.

605
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Yeah, I'm with you.

606
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,120
I had a good time.

607
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,220
I skipped most of a 90 minute movie by fast forwarding.

608
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:49,540
Yeah, I was going to say, it hardly qualifies as watching the movie.

609
00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:52,380
That's like how most people watch porn.

610
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,340
You're just fast jumping through to the parts that are like,

611
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:57,620
until the face, it gets gooey.

612
00:28:57,620 --> 00:28:59,340
That's good. Yeah. Until the face sitting.

613
00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:01,880
Yeah. And then you're like, OK, I've seen enough.

614
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,540
I'm curious.

615
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,740
What was your favorite animatronic death in this?

616
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:07,220
Favorite animatronic death?

617
00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:09,580
Not Willie's. He just kind of smashed him.

618
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,140
I liked the collie sticks he made out of like a mop.

619
00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:17,620
And then the spine rip might have been my favorite because that was pretty good.

620
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,780
I remember the face sitting one.

621
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:23,180
The gorilla gorilla gets a curb stomped into a urinal like.

622
00:29:23,780 --> 00:29:27,980
It's not necessarily the killing, but I'm still really a big fan of Tito

623
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:30,480
getting hit in the balls with the shotgun. Yeah.

624
00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:32,740
Why did we have that?

625
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:34,480
Why did we make this curse? How does it feel?

626
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Things feel pain. Bad idea.

627
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,940
Yeah.

628
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:39,180
You know, it was a brutal curb.

629
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:41,720
Stomp is when he killed that guy at the beginning of all the dark.

630
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Oh, man.

631
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,180
OK, yeah, that's our transition.

632
00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:48,280
Wild at heart. Yeah, that's not a bad segue.

633
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,180
Sorry, did step on your toes.

634
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:52,440
No, it's fine.

635
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,520
I'm not good at them, apparently.

636
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,820
I don't know why you're sour about this now.

637
00:29:57,820 --> 00:30:01,920
You've had two years to learn how to segue that movie.

638
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,220
It starts fucking right right in there.

639
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:07,540
Yeah, starts out hot.

640
00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:11,580
Credits over fire is our introduced to this movie is just.

641
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:15,820
This is so David Lynch and I

642
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,620
forgot how wildly David Lynch this movie is.

643
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,380
He is just the third main character.

644
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Yeah, I love it.

645
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920
I mean, you've got the weird high voice guy for no reason.

646
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,280
You've got the weird like murder of the mom's boyfriend.

647
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Like, fuck, it's so David Lynch.

648
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,540
And the guy who quacked at the bar and spoke to me.

649
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:42,340
What do you tell me?

650
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,440
We weren't the pigeons spread diseases. Yeah.

651
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,420
Which is not the only enigmatic character he beats, because you also have Pete

652
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,420
from Twin Peaks. I forget what his character was.

653
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:56,040
Double off something.

654
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,120
He goes on about his dog and how his dog bites sometimes.

655
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:03,540
And you probably picture his dog.

656
00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:06,680
Well, that was the guy that was that was a racer head to write.

657
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,680
Yes, he's the racer head guy. Absolutely.

658
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,740
This this movie is fucking wild.

659
00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:14,080
So Peter and I watched this one to get.

660
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,940
Yeah. And weird on top.

661
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:22,520
Peter and I watched this one together in about 10 minutes into the film.

662
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,180
Peter looks at me and goes, is David Lynch a good director?

663
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,240
And I didn't have an answer.

664
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,580
Have you watched David Lynch make quinoa?

665
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,700
I have not, but I'm going to.

666
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,700
I have. I've been waiting.

667
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,700
Wait, is that on Pornhub or?

668
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,700
No, you can find it on YouTube or whatever.

669
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:42,200
It's cowards.

670
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000
So he did like a series of things at one point.

671
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,700
I don't know. He was just posting videos like he would post the weather report

672
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:52,900
every day. But he would read the weather.

673
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,600
I'm aware of.

674
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,900
I want to pull the numbers out of a jar.

675
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,880
For this quinoa one, it's like a black and white video that he shoots at night.

676
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,780
And he's making quinoa.

677
00:32:04,780 --> 00:32:09,300
He's telling you his quinoa recipe and he's just smoking over this pot

678
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,300
of water while it boils.

679
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,600
And then he goes outside to have a cigarette.

680
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,080
He just like rambles at you for like 20 minutes while the quinoa sets.

681
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:25,080
And then he goes back in and makes himself a plate of like barely visible quinoa.

682
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Because it's nighttime and he's got like two lights on and it's in black and white.

683
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,800
And he just eats quinoa and probably smokes another cigarette while he does it.

684
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800
OK, so he is a good director.

685
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800
He's insane. I don't know.

686
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,800
I'm pretty sure I told this story when we first did Wild at Heart.

687
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,800
But I used to work at a Barnes and Noble and the person who like got guests to come

688
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,800
talk there, got David Lynch to come talk about a book he'd written.

689
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,800
But David Lynch won't do a public appearance if he can't smoke quinoa.

690
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,940
But David Lynch won't do a public appearance if he can't smoke inside.

691
00:32:55,940 --> 00:33:00,740
So most places have to like get special dispensation from like the city to have

692
00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:04,040
like indoor smoking just so he'll come and talk.

693
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,280
That is a power play.

694
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,200
David Lynch and David Chappelle like they're going to smoke.

695
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,440
So this movie is crazy.

696
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,780
I love it and hate it.

697
00:33:17,780 --> 00:33:20,780
Like, I think it sucks and it's amazing.

698
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:23,780
It kind of describes David Lynch for me in general.

699
00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:27,940
Like, it's a whole thing of he wants you to feel things.

700
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:32,180
And that's not always a good feeling he wants you to have.

701
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:37,340
No, he definitely keeps you like from being comfortable.

702
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:42,300
No, I feel disconcerted and very uncomfortable at certain parts of a lot of his movies,

703
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,900
especially anytime Bobby is on screen.

704
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,400
I just like feel slime on me.

705
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:54,000
So Bobby Peru, Willem Dafoe's character, he has such a profound impact on me

706
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,580
when I think about this movie that I forget that he's only in the last like 30 minutes.

707
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:01,540
And his head gets blown off.

708
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,880
Yeah. With the spine still attached.

709
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Yeah, that's gross.

710
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,800
Not as gross as his teeth.

711
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,080
What's really impressive in this movie is I think this is the creepiest

712
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,780
Willem Dafoe I've seen and he can really play creepy.

713
00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:18,100
Like this is creepier than poor things Willem Dafoe.

714
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,640
Yep. No, wait.

715
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,540
I don't know what's worse, his mustache or his teeth or his like persona.

716
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:27,380
Yeah, his personality.

717
00:34:27,380 --> 00:34:30,040
Every single thing about his character is gross.

718
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,440
Oh, man. I will tell you, the thing that lives rent free in my brain

719
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,880
from this movie is Mr. Big Round Balls.

720
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:40,840
Oh, yeah. What a weird like is that a compliment or an insult?

721
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,540
It's like I had a friend of mine who in college would just his insult was

722
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,100
your big dick bitch.

723
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,880
And it's like, thank you.

724
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,600
So I got a question for all of you.

725
00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:58,200
Fuck Mary Kill Bobby Peru's mustache,

726
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,380
Bobby Peru's teeth and Bobby Peru's personality.

727
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Oh, boy. The mustache.

728
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,780
You know, OK.

729
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:07,180
No, no, no, no, no, no.

730
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,540
Mary, the mustache, the mustache.

731
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:10,900
Kill the teeth.

732
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:12,500
Fuck his personality.

733
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,300
And there's no good options here.

734
00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:17,300
They're all terrible.

735
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,040
God damn it, Nick.

736
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,800
You know what?

737
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,280
I think I'm going to fuck the teeth because they're small

738
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,700
and I don't think they'll get in the way.

739
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,540
They seem pretty gross and jagged.

740
00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:28,580
Yeah, they're not going to offer up a lot of resistance.

741
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:31,540
This podcast is over.

742
00:35:31,540 --> 00:35:33,040
I'm turning this podcast around.

743
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,280
Mary, the mustache and definitely kill his personality.

744
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,500
All right. Lunchbox, your take.

745
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,300
Oh, I don't know if I'll play this game.

746
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,240
Go ahead. Get canceled with me.

747
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,780
Mustache is maybe the most appealing.

748
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:49,240
So maybe very bad. Kill his teeth.

749
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:50,940
Oh, what does that leave?

750
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:51,840
Oh, that leaves me.

751
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,240
I'm talking about personality.

752
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:57,180
Also, I mean, the guys in this room seen my attempts at relationships.

753
00:35:57,180 --> 00:35:59,540
I like an abusive relationship.

754
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,640
Oh, I don't like myself that much.

755
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,740
Don't don't be in a Bobby Peru.

756
00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:08,080
If there's one thing everyone should take away from Wild at Heart

757
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,080
and this podcast, don't be Bobby Peru.

758
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,640
Don't talk about yourself in third person.

759
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,380
It don't take a leak in for the Lord Lord earn against your will.

760
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:21,540
Apparently, he actually did.

761
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,140
He accidentally non-functioning toilet.

762
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,540
But why did they why did they use fake audio for that?

763
00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:29,000
It's so bad.

764
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,240
It's just like somebody dumping a bucket of water.

765
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,740
Well, they probably just looped it in.

766
00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:37,280
So just to make it, you know.

767
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,700
I'm going to put my own version of that audio in right now.

768
00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:43,380
I'm going to go dump a bucket of water in the yard.

769
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,740
The thing that sticks out that will not leave my brain

770
00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:04,140
is the close up of Bobby Peru smiling with the stocking over his head.

771
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:05,740
Oh, yeah.

772
00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:09,680
Also, why why stocking like how is that a convincing.

773
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,040
Because it's a classic.

774
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,340
Yeah, but it it is a class.

775
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:14,780
It's a fucking classic.

776
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:16,500
I mean, look at raising Arizona.

777
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,880
Look, they're just holding up a seed bank.

778
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,440
Is it supposed to be like a dark stocking?

779
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,180
Is that going to like because like they just look like them,

780
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:26,100
but their noses are slightly smashed and you can't tell their hair.

781
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,440
And I don't know, maybe from a distance.

782
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Let's go get some stockings.

783
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,940
All right. I have some.

784
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:34,780
Some. Well, I don't want to wear your stockings.

785
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:36,700
And I don't want your giant head to stretch them out.

786
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:39,640
I would stretch the crotch part out really hard.

787
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,440
Then I'd put it on my head.

788
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,380
All right. So lunchbox, give us a give us a like top level

789
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:46,380
review of this movie.

790
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:49,200
Like what happens? Give us the overall story.

791
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,340
The overall story.

792
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:53,800
Geez, that's a way too many notes on all that hard.

793
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440
So that could be problematic.

794
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,640
But what general stories you would have the love story between sailor and Lulu.

795
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,300
It starts off with fire and the curb stomping

796
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,260
at the very beginning of it.

797
00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:10,800
Well, technically banister stomping.

798
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,940
But it's a pretty normal scene where they're just like at some gala

799
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:16,160
or something, take fear.

800
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,000
And this guy just casually talks to him.

801
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,040
And it's like, hey, I got hired to kill you.

802
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,400
And it just whips out a knife, tries to kill him.

803
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,200
It's head smashed.

804
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,900
Do do do.

805
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,300
Oh, I didn't get any metal.

806
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:32,800
But I looked it up.

807
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,340
It was Slaughterhouse by Power Man is that heavy metal song

808
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:37,900
that constantly plays.

809
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:41,460
Oh, that makes sense because they were all excited about Power Man playing.

810
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:43,340
Yeah, it's the band they go to see.

811
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:44,340
Yeah.

812
00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:46,660
I know where this.

813
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:47,900
Yeah, Power Man knows Elvis.

814
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:49,160
They're classic.

815
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,460
They're classically trained.

816
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:53,900
I forgot how long that scene goes on for.

817
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:55,100
He sings the whole song.

818
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:56,000
Yeah, it is.

819
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,340
Yeah, like the whole song.

820
00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:58,300
This is like what?

821
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:01,140
At the beginning, after he gets out of jail and they go to the concert

822
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:03,260
and then the dude starts dancing with Lula,

823
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Saylor gets all caught up in his dancing.

824
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,500
And then Saylor fights, stops the entire concert

825
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:13,000
to confront the dude and smash his face into a cigarette.

826
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,060
But the crowd and then he sees the concert with

827
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:20,460
he just gets the toss of a mic and just crew insert.

828
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,340
And then they go back to the room.

829
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:24,560
I love how he's just like,

830
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,560
you guys seem like real solid fellows and you got real big energy.

831
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,560
And like he calls Elvis big.

832
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,460
He's like, you guys, you know, this one hit it.

833
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,960
So he's been like, what, 20 minutes just driving

834
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,060
and banging in hotel rooms, smoking a lot of cigarettes.

835
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:43,760
I tried to count in the movie.

836
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,760
There's like 30 cigarettes smoking.

837
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,360
So this way.

838
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,300
Oh, so he does double dip a couple of times.

839
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:54,900
Yeah, this would be like the David Lynch equivalent of a

840
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,360
a drinking game, just a smoking game, just smoke

841
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,700
when they smoke and see if you can. God.

842
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:03,560
Put down a pack and a half of cigarettes in two hours.

843
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:06,160
Oh, I love the first time I saw the movie,

844
00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:07,800
but she told him she was pregnant.

845
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,040
He lit two cigarettes.

846
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,300
I thought he was going to give her one.

847
00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:15,260
I'm like, OK, we're going to have to start smoking with two cigarettes.

848
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,660
Yeah, he does that in prison again, too.

849
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:20,440
Later on, it's so good.

850
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,800
It's like this is how he deals.

851
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Well, right into his son, he's never seen her daughter.

852
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,220
Peter and I were trying to figure this out.

853
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:33,200
How many films does Nick Cage miss like large swaths of his children's lives

854
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,260
because he's in jail?

855
00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:38,020
Because there's a lot of crossover with Connery, except it's his kids.

856
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,260
Stolen.

857
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:42,520
Mm hmm. And he again gets a stuffed animal for the kid.

858
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:46,620
He has sailor has trouble getting the stuffed animal.

859
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:48,120
This kid for the record.

860
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Yeah, no, he walks up and hands it to him.

861
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,220
Well, like so easy.

862
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:54,320
How hard, how difficult was that?

863
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,620
But then he does have an anxiety attack and bolts moments later.

864
00:40:58,660 --> 00:41:00,760
I shouldn't be a daddy.

865
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,060
We're skipping right to the end, but he has an anxiety attack.

866
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Oh, it's the break speed off of us gangsters

867
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,620
and then Laura Palmer and gives him some advice.

868
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:11,460
What does she tell him?

869
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:13,360
Like it's with your wild at heart.

870
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,920
Don't give up on love.

871
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,960
So he's like, all right.

872
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,260
I wrote down the specific line he told her.

873
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:20,620
But just saying,

874
00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:26,020
uh, I'm a manslaughterer and a robber and I didn't have parental guidance.

875
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:29,920
I just love how they keep saying manslaughterer.

876
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,620
That's how is that the preferred nomenclature?

877
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:35,520
Yeah, manslaughter.

878
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,660
Well, he calls himself a murderer and like a larder and calls him out for it.

879
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:39,660
Yeah. Yeah.

880
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:41,020
She's like, you're exaggerating.

881
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,220
Just a manslaughterer.

882
00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:48,380
I love the scene where at one point they jam out with the gas station

883
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:51,580
and it's like tapping along and like slaves them off.

884
00:41:51,580 --> 00:41:55,920
And she smokes in the car in front of like three no smoking signs with the gas pump.

885
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,220
And then they're driving down the road like sailors sleeping.

886
00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:01,780
And Lou was trying to like find some music.

887
00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:06,380
And like literally every station she turns to is like rape, murder, slaughter,

888
00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:10,780
a bunch of dead turtles, like probably a bunch of dead animals.

889
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:15,580
A bunch of dead turtles, like probably using the corpses of the river.

890
00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:19,280
And she just has a panic attack and pulls over on the side of the road.

891
00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:22,620
So they have to find some metal thrashing out.

892
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:25,260
Did he really flip out of that fucking car?

893
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:26,780
I hope he did.

894
00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:29,480
It looks like it didn't look like it was cut.

895
00:42:29,820 --> 00:42:36,480
Based on everything I've seen interview wise from him in that time period.

896
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Yeah, I'd say he did.

897
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,880
He probably did do that back flip out of the car and then like, oh, wow.

898
00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,980
Didn't you go on a talk show and do like a flip?

899
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:46,960
It was like super.

900
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,260
Yeah. Yeah, he was hyped.

901
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:51,560
Yeah, he was hyped for that maybe.

902
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,060
He understands how to make a movie Texas style.

903
00:42:56,420 --> 00:43:00,780
I didn't see any cowboy hats, but yeah, they didn't make that porno Texas style.

904
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:02,380
And I wonder what do they mean by that?

905
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:04,560
And then they show you what they mean by that.

906
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:06,680
Everything's bigger in Texas.

907
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,280
Everything's bigger in Texas.

908
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,560
And don't forget the silent cowboy and I'm assuming more than a producer

909
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,060
who just stared down.

910
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:17,660
It was just the cowboy and the business

911
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:19,980
to stare down sailor as he was gone.

912
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:20,760
He's right.

913
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,020
We're so far out of gas, I think.

914
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:26,060
This movie's so fucking wild.

915
00:43:26,060 --> 00:43:28,120
Yeah. At heart.

916
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,720
I don't know.

917
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,260
I just feel like so much of it is like these weird vignettes and like

918
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:34,420
none of it really matters.

919
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:37,780
It's just sort of adventures of sailor and Lula.

920
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:41,580
Well, it's based off of a series of shorter pulp novels. Right.

921
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:44,720
So which I mean, it makes perfect sense that that would be

922
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,520
how this shook out, but it is pretty weird to watch as a sequence.

923
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,420
Yeah. Yeah.

924
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:54,560
I mean, it's tied together about as well as it could be, I think. Yeah.

925
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,520
A little more coherent than most of David Lynch's other stuff, though,

926
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,920
because he's not always the biggest fan of like

927
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,980
a literal logic, a kind of dream logic.

928
00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:07,120
And time is fluid.

929
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,880
So like it's a lot more structured than it's difficult work, I'd say at least.

930
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:13,720
But it does have like the big grand of vignettes on the road,

931
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:15,840
kind of like the straight story did.

932
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,080
I did enjoy how no villains in this movie

933
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,040
got their comeuppance except for Bobby Purdue.

934
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,180
Peru Peru.

935
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:27,540
Yeah, Bobby Peru got his head.

936
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:30,780
Yeah, the mom never got her way.

937
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:33,580
In fact, her photo melted when it got wet.

938
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,240
They did the wicked witch thing.

939
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,440
She was the wicked witch.

940
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,320
For the water on the picture.

941
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,640
She didn't have a mental break.

942
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,380
So she kind of hurt.

943
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:45,880
Yeah, she got broken mentally.

944
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,780
And that was great.

945
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:49,180
But Santos didn't have anything bad happen to him.

946
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:53,480
No. Other than I guess he didn't get that pussy. No.

947
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,080
And what's her face? Isabella Rossellini just books it.

948
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,380
She's just gone in the wind with her bad hair.

949
00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:03,060
Yeah, weird wigs.

950
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:08,020
So many weird bad wigs in this movie, but like clearly bad wigs.

951
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:11,320
I think Lynch just doesn't give a shit about that kind of stuff.

952
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,060
Yeah, I think he's got an aesthetic that kind of borders on like

953
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,280
more mental fuckery than visual

954
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,320
cohesion.

955
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,320
That's a necessity.

956
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Yeah, I think that's a good assessment.

957
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,580
Yeah, I love it, though.

958
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,820
I really do enjoy it.

959
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,280
Josie and I were watching this and we're like, man,

960
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,180
it's probably about time to watch Mulholland Drive again.

961
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:41,580
Again, probably.

962
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:44,080
I so backed up wild at heart.

963
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520
I loved the like, oh, man.

964
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,320
So I'm I really enjoy it.

965
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,280
I get into the the weird and wildness of a David Lynch aesthetic for the movie.

966
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,720
And I'll only talk about this one like for this moment.

967
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,120
But everything from like the cuts to fire

968
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,760
and like the the memories, like the way he shows memories, the

969
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,580
a really saturated filters on the lenses and everything.

970
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,980
It's such a he's a better Wes Anderson.

971
00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:21,360
Like he has his own clear style that nobody else can do.

972
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,900
I'm so mad that I actually really agree with you.

973
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:25,600
Like this is fucking spot on.

974
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,300
Yeah, like nobody makes a David Lynch movie, but David Lynch.

975
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:34,200
Like nobody makes a Wes Anderson movie like Wes Anderson, but you could.

976
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:38,820
And you just need to know

977
00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:43,520
130 like famous people to fill out the cast.

978
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:45,000
One Bill Murray.

979
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,160
Yeah. But I don't know.

980
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,320
I don't know something about David Lynch's style is so

981
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,820
just unbelievable to me.

982
00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:57,420
And like, I just never know what's going to happen.

983
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,420
And so when I watch one of his movies, I'm like, oh, fuck.

984
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:01,720
Why is it this now?

985
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:06,100
Oh, OK. Like, oh, this room's all made out of giant red curtains.

986
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:07,320
Cool.

987
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,260
Well, oh, this is 30 minutes now.

988
00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:10,220
OK, we're doing that.

989
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:12,760
Well, when Peter when Peter asked me, is David Lynch a good director?

990
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,600
My only thing was, I think he's a good director for David Lynch films.

991
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,420
Yeah. Yeah.

992
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:21,000
He's quite good at those. Yeah.

993
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,360
Not for the typical film, although he did almost make a star

994
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,920
which would have been bizarre.

995
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,760
I cannot imagine.

996
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,860
David Lynch is a rebel moon. Yeah.

997
00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:35,560
Well, OK, just he made Dune.

998
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,320
So let's think about David Lynch's Dune.

999
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Yeah, I try not to on a regular basis in a Star Wars setting.

1000
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560
So he's had Toto do a soundtrack.

1001
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,720
Would Star Wars just be all yes?

1002
00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:51,000
Maybe. Yeah.

1003
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,660
I want I want backward talking Darth Vader.

1004
00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:56,760
Yeah, that would be such a movie.

1005
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,000
If only we could live in that reality one day one day.

1006
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,160
But it would be it would be very unique to be the most unique Star Wars movie

1007
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,800
they made.

1008
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,800
It could just be a one off single episode of The Mandalorian and I'd be happy.

1009
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Yeah, if only we could get that 45 minutes of just like David Lynch

1010
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,220
Star Wars story, that'd be pretty great.

1011
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:19,260
It would just be the Christmas special backwards.

1012
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:21,160
Oh, I like that.

1013
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,500
You mean Tobor, it's robots spelled backwards.

1014
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,620
Tobor, it's robots.

1015
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:33,160
So on the grid of good movie, good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.

1016
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Where do we put Wild at Heart?

1017
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,320
I think it is a good movie that is weird and I hate and love.

1018
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,980
And it is a great cage performance. Now.

1019
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:45,920
OK, I'll answer this.

1020
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,960
But I also want to say like of the matchup, I think it's just awesome

1021
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,860
that we had these two movies that have different approaches to the language

1022
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:59,720
with Nicolas Cage saying nothing in one film and the almost romanticized

1023
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,020
approach to language that you get in this movie because it like

1024
00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:06,860
they don't talk like people.

1025
00:49:06,860 --> 00:49:10,680
Like they're talking almost like it's a period piece.

1026
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,760
But the period could really be, I mean, anytime pre cell phone.

1027
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Yeah. Just I don't know.

1028
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,920
I love the way they said things like when they get in the car

1029
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,460
to when Saylor and Lula get in the car to take off and it's like stab it and steer.

1030
00:49:25,460 --> 00:49:29,380
It's like that's a fucking great way to say just punch it, Chewie.

1031
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,180
Yeah. Even mentions how she has a strange way of saying things.

1032
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:40,540
Yeah. And it's the whole cast like everybody just talks kind of strangely.

1033
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:44,620
But there's just a love affair for talking

1034
00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:48,220
and like the way you can say things in this film.

1035
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:51,220
Well, you mentioned how like David Lynch has his signature.

1036
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:54,220
Like if you know what to look for, you can tell some things to David Lynch thing.

1037
00:49:54,220 --> 00:49:57,020
And like odd dialogue is definitely one of them.

1038
00:49:57,020 --> 00:50:00,040
Like you have some pretty natural dialogue in Twin Peaks.

1039
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,380
It was really just David Lynch doing David Lynch.

1040
00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:05,280
It's weirdly timed dialogue.

1041
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,940
People almost seem out of sync.

1042
00:50:06,940 --> 00:50:11,620
Yeah. Like there's almost a meter to like how he writes things out

1043
00:50:11,620 --> 00:50:15,320
or has people say it that just kind of like throws it.

1044
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,720
Yeah. Like working in a odd way, not like not the kind you usually see.

1045
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,780
It's a very unique kind.

1046
00:50:22,780 --> 00:50:24,920
Yeah. It gets your attention for sure.

1047
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,020
And it made me pay attention.

1048
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:31,820
I could pull up any scene in this movie and be like, oh, man, I fucking love this.

1049
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:37,140
I love this line right here just because of delivery or oddness.

1050
00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:42,420
I took note so many lines they they said because they were just great one liners.

1051
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:44,420
I forget what the last thing you think.

1052
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:46,540
Give me your top quote.

1053
00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:52,820
I do like the last one he told his what was the last advice he gave his son was

1054
00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:57,940
they win before you end up dancing at the end of a rope with no music.

1055
00:50:57,940 --> 00:51:01,980
The last advice he wanted to give his son before leaving his life forever.

1056
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:05,540
Yeah, he's something he met like 10 minutes ago. Yeah.

1057
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:08,340
Yeah, he's somebody just that the car is like, you know what?

1058
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:10,180
You guys would be better off without me.

1059
00:51:10,180 --> 00:51:13,940
Peace. And Pace just gives him his cool look.

1060
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:20,580
His cool guy face like, oh, I'm intimidated by this new daddy.

1061
00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:22,380
New daddy.

1062
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:24,180
That envy the line.

1063
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:27,680
My favorite line is probably the the line with the good witch.

1064
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,940
The I'm a manslaughter and a robber and I didn't have parental guidance,

1065
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:36,980
which he brings up at the beginning of the movie by telling her about

1066
00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:40,680
when he's describing how he started smoking at four years old, I think.

1067
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,580
And he's like, my mom died of cancer.

1068
00:51:43,580 --> 00:51:45,740
My dad died of cancer drinking.

1069
00:51:45,740 --> 00:51:48,040
Pretty much everybody in my family died of that.

1070
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,940
But I didn't really have much parental guidance.

1071
00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:52,540
At least that's what the public defendant kept telling me.

1072
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:55,580
Yeah. And I like I was like, he was a good man.

1073
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:57,820
He's stuck by me.

1074
00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:01,680
That's the closest to a father figure he ever had was his public defender.

1075
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,420
Yeah, so that's the only guy he's had in his life.

1076
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,880
It's like this.

1077
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,980
This is a great, great film and such an interesting performance from that cage.

1078
00:52:14,980 --> 00:52:17,080
And one I don't think we've seen a performance like this.

1079
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,020
We haven't seen from him really since.

1080
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,020
It is pretty unique amongst the.

1081
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:23,620
That's might be the lynchiness of it.

1082
00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:28,020
This film definitely came out in 1990 and it's a

1083
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,260
before his big action movie turn

1084
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,620
and kind of after some of his more adventurous early films,

1085
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Vampire's Kiss and stuff like that.

1086
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:46,020
I don't know. It seems like it's such a first wave cage kind of film.

1087
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:49,160
It was definitely a good peanut butter jelly of weirdness.

1088
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,320
I think even read he got him out of method acting

1089
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,420
because David Lynch was kind of looser with the script and rewrites

1090
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:57,860
and wanted him to like play with the character more.

1091
00:52:57,860 --> 00:53:01,820
So I think it ended up influencing him a lot from what I read at least.

1092
00:53:01,820 --> 00:53:04,860
But it is a good blend. It's not his typical weirdness.

1093
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,420
Yeah, I mean, you get a little bit of just David Lynch leaking in.

1094
00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:12,520
And it's really nice.

1095
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,120
But there's the important thing of that was his actual jacket

1096
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,220
that he gave Laura Dern afterwards.

1097
00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:21,520
So that's insane that it was just out of his closet.

1098
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,320
It wouldn't be the first time he's brought his own personal properties

1099
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,820
because like, well, maybe it was the first.

1100
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:29,320
It might have been the first. Yeah.

1101
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,320
But the car that he drives in Sorcerer's Apprentice was his car.

1102
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,320
And that's pretty cool, too.

1103
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Well, and one thing I don't think I've heard anybody mention

1104
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,320
is that that jacket is in a video game series.

1105
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,120
Like there is a primary character in the Yakuza game series that wears that.

1106
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:53,920
Majima wears that exact. And he's my favorite character in the whole series.

1107
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,920
And it also represents individual freedom.

1108
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,920
And whatever the line was.

1109
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,120
Yeah, I've been trying to find like a good quality snake skin jacket

1110
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,920
for the last two years now.

1111
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,120
And I got to say, it's not something I'm going to find online.

1112
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,720
I'm going to have to start going to like snake dealers.

1113
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,820
Snakeman. Yeah, snakeman.

1114
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:18,720
And start talking to.

1115
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,520
This is how we actually meet Nicolas Cage.

1116
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,320
You just in like talking to a snake dealer. Yeah.

1117
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Oh, I'm also Nick Cage's snake guy.

1118
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,320
It would be beautiful.

1119
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,120
Can we get that guy on the podcast? Probably.

1120
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,820
I'll throw back in to where we were and say that I fucking love this movie.

1121
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:39,620
It's a great movie and a great Nicolas Cage.

1122
00:54:39,620 --> 00:54:42,520
I'm high on this horse.

1123
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,720
So I shouldn't be smoking horse.

1124
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,320
Don't smoke horse.

1125
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,520
That's when you get that weird high voice and talk about pigeons

1126
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,420
or whatever the fuck. High on a horse.

1127
00:54:51,420 --> 00:54:53,420
That could be sniffing glue.

1128
00:54:53,420 --> 00:54:56,920
Oh, yeah. Get that hoof.

1129
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,520
I'm a hoof man myself.

1130
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Huffing mouth disease.

1131
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,520
You don't eat it.

1132
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,620
All right. So what movie goes forward?

1133
00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:06,520
And we'll pitch it to lunchbox first.

1134
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,920
Yeah. Which movie do you think should go forward?

1135
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Did I need to do the good cage?

1136
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,420
Well, I mean, I went into this bias.

1137
00:55:13,420 --> 00:55:15,120
I think it's great cage. Great movie.

1138
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,220
Even one of the lower David Lynch movies is better than most other movies.

1139
00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:20,720
In my opinion.

1140
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,420
Yeah, they just offer so much.

1141
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,220
They're rich in world setting and for nothing else.

1142
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,620
And click. Oh, God.

1143
00:55:29,620 --> 00:55:32,120
Don't even. OK, we're going back.

1144
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,520
We're talking about Dell.

1145
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,420
Yeah, I love Dell.

1146
00:55:35,420 --> 00:55:37,120
I'm making a sandwich.

1147
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,420
I love Crispin Glover and I love Crispin Glover.

1148
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,620
I'm so glad you said that.

1149
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:43,620
I had a whole like page on Dell.

1150
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:45,420
He's one of my favorite bits of the movie.

1151
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:48,220
It's the same thing for something that's like two minutes long.

1152
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:51,520
Yeah, it's our second Crispin Glover

1153
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120
like cameo in a Nicolas Cage movie.

1154
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,420
And it's just insane.

1155
00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,220
It doesn't leave an impression.

1156
00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:00,620
The guy obsessed with.

1157
00:56:00,620 --> 00:56:02,520
Who has cockroaches in his underwear.

1158
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,220
He was putting a cockroach on his butthole.

1159
00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:06,820
On his anus.

1160
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:08,220
Yeah, right on his anus.

1161
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:10,620
Also like middle of the night in the dark.

1162
00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:12,020
Isla sandwiches.

1163
00:56:12,020 --> 00:56:14,220
What are you doing, honey?

1164
00:56:14,220 --> 00:56:15,620
I'm making my.

1165
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:20,920
He's just destroying the sandwiches like he makes sandwiches

1166
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,220
and then dices them up like with his face.

1167
00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:25,220
Oh, yes.

1168
00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:29,720
I just can't get over his weird like weird butthole dance with the roaches.

1169
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,920
He's like, rising around.

1170
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520
He doesn't look sad, though.

1171
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,420
I mean, would you with roaches on your butt?

1172
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:40,020
Check back next week.

1173
00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:43,620
Let me see if that was on the something.

1174
00:56:43,620 --> 00:56:44,520
Yeah.

1175
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,820
OK.

1176
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:47,320
What are you going to rock paper scissors?

1177
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,720
Well, I was going to finish this up real quick

1178
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,020
so that I can get distracted again.

1179
00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:53,020
Get high on that horse.

1180
00:56:53,020 --> 00:56:54,120
Yeah. Lunchbox.

1181
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,520
Your opinion. Yes.

1182
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,420
My pain was wild at heart.

1183
00:56:57,420 --> 00:56:59,420
Well, yeah. Not to lead the witness.

1184
00:56:59,420 --> 00:57:00,720
Yes.

1185
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:01,820
All right, Nick.

1186
00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:03,020
I'm a wild at heart guy.

1187
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:04,720
This is definitely my movie.

1188
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:05,920
You're wearing the shirt.

1189
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,520
I was going to say Primal, but I guess I guess I'm outvoted here.

1190
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,620
I'll go wild at her.

1191
00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:13,720
Hmm. If primal's on the table,

1192
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:15,020
I'd have to go wild at heart.

1193
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:17,520
Yeah. But I mean, I'm not going to say anything.

1194
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,420
This is a great movie.

1195
00:57:18,420 --> 00:57:22,420
It's fucking weird and I am uncomfortable, but I really like it.

1196
00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:25,420
And Willy's Wonderland is fun and people should watch it.

1197
00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:26,120
It's 90 minutes.

1198
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,620
Fucking crush it. Yeah.

1199
00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:30,620
But it's only 20 if you skip all of it like Peter did.

1200
00:57:30,620 --> 00:57:34,120
Yeah, man. It rules just like kind of get all to the action.

1201
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,520
You know, that might be a better way to watch that movie.

1202
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:39,220
You can skip all the teenagers doing dumb shit

1203
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:43,920
and you can just get like him fighting robots and playing pinball and dancing.

1204
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,520
It rules. Yeah.

1205
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,720
I think it would have been way better if it was just no dialogue

1206
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,120
and fighting monsters.

1207
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,620
There's like a couple lines of dialogue from the sheriff.

1208
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:55,820
Look at guy who owned the place at the beginning and end of the movie.

1209
00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:58,120
That's all you need. Yep.

1210
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,920
You know, it just came to me now,

1211
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,920
but I do really like that he doesn't talk much like Link never talks.

1212
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920
So he's just your silent protagonist.

1213
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,520
I did have a thought of he very much seemed like a video game protagonist.

1214
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,820
He was literally just walking around quietly dealing with problems,

1215
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:18,220
taking quests as presented to him and doing the quest.

1216
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,920
Yeah, he would engage in conversations.

1217
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,920
Now, if only the D and D players would do that.

1218
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,020
Oh, well, shit.

1219
00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:27,920
Thanks for being here. Lunchbox.

1220
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,420
Do you have anything that you want to pitch and promote?

1221
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,820
Yeah. Where can people find you? Yeah.

1222
00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:34,320
I'm always terrible at this.

1223
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,120
You can find me on Instagram is the main place I post my art at lunchbox underscore

1224
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,020
ink with the K because I think I'm clever.

1225
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:44,720
That's where I post all my drawings and my tattoo stuff, which is my day job.

1226
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:50,220
I manager over a tattoo shop over by UNCC over here in Charlotte. Cool.

1227
00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:54,320
And then I do digital illustration and such on the side when I'm not busy drawing.

1228
00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Mo

1229
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,720
I'm going to remember again if I do.

1230
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,720
That's awesome.

1231
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,560
I hope it's exactly the same.

1232
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:36,100
He has 118 films and he's five upcoming on according to be including another

1233
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:40,140
Lords of War, which is now the Carpenter's Son.

1234
00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:42,000
Oh, yeah. The horror Jesus movie.

1235
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,780
Yeah. Horror Jesus.

1236
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:48,580
The Gunslingers, Long Legs and Noir TV series.

1237
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:50,080
I'm assuming that's Spider-Man.

1238
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,180
Yeah. But it only says two episodes.

1239
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:54,280
Interesting. We'll find out.

1240
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,220
So one hundred and twenty something cages on the horizon.

1241
00:59:58,220 --> 00:59:59,560
One hundred and twenty three.

1242
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,960
Yeah, you got it.

1243
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,460
Yeah, I can do this. It's like 50 something more.

1244
01:00:03,460 --> 01:00:05,300
It's great.

1245
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,340
I feel like I hope they've gotten better as I've thought.

1246
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:12,840
Do you have a favorite Nicholas Cage hairstyle or hairline to draw?

1247
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,180
Oh, that's a really good question.

1248
01:00:15,180 --> 01:00:17,280
I appreciate that question.

1249
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,080
Raising Arizona hair is fun.

1250
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Oh, like those fights. Good hair.

1251
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,260
I've got to do a lot of long hair cages, a lot of facial hair cages.

1252
01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:27,980
I like drawing the facial hair cages.

1253
01:00:27,980 --> 01:00:29,660
You know, you get some more distinct.

1254
01:00:29,660 --> 01:00:32,420
You know, you get to have some fun in the chin area instead of having to get it

1255
01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:33,860
just right.

1256
01:00:33,860 --> 01:00:38,220
I will say I do not care for his beard in Willy's Wonderland.

1257
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:43,800
I think it needs to come back along the under jaw portion more.

1258
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Agreed. Like he cuts it too far away from the Adam's apple.

1259
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,100
Not his strongest beard he's had.

1260
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,280
It's not like red.

1261
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,860
It's not like drive angry or yeah. Yeah.

1262
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,120
Or Pete.

1263
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,220
He was solving. Yeah.

1264
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:57,720
Beard makes a good beard.

1265
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,020
Pigs a good beard.

1266
01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:01,560
And he wears a union suit.

1267
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,900
I think it's at a list of like the Ray Ray Ray, his facial hair or body.

1268
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:08,300
We talk about Stern and Bush.

1269
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:10,400
I go by Stern and Bush a lot.

1270
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,440
Which Sean's ex wife apparently.

1271
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Yeah. Meredith sent me a voice message last week being like,

1272
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,040
you're going to think I'm stupid for this, but

1273
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,420
I thought you were saying Stern man Bush for the longest time.

1274
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,180
Not Stern and Bush.

1275
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,880
Which is 100% what it's going to be from now on.

1276
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,600
It is a stern man Bush.

1277
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,460
Just a gruff pubic area.

1278
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,000
Yeah, you get it.

1279
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,960
Hmm. Stern man Bush.

1280
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,800
So you need to rate the Bush and the like facial hair her move,

1281
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,940
which while that art did have stern and Bush some, I believe.

1282
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,340
They did. He did.

1283
01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:50,520
Also, how far back the hairline is.

1284
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,680
The that too.

1285
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,680
The chest hair in Wild at Heart always gets me because it looks like

1286
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,480
he had it shaved in like a capital I and then grew the pack hair back out

1287
01:02:01,580 --> 01:02:03,320
like he had shaved it away previously.

1288
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,460
It's just thicker in the center and the underlining.

1289
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:11,100
Well, because Valley Girl would have been around before that.

1290
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,460
So he probably was shaved.

1291
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:17,700
Yeah. Is that the one review that's on the beach and had like a Y on it?

1292
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,980
It looked like it was in a permissible shape.

1293
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:22,000
Yeah. I remember Valley Girl.

1294
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,380
It looks very strangely intentional.

1295
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:28,880
Like God doesn't grow a facial just hair in this sort of shape.

1296
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,520
Our God does. Nicholas Cage.

1297
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Last thoughts, anything?

1298
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,460
Both these movies are worth watching. Go watch them.

1299
01:02:37,460 --> 01:02:41,700
Yeah. But definitely watch Wild at Heart when you're ready to pay attention.

1300
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,660
Oh, yeah.

1301
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:44,860
Willy's Wonderland. You can chill.

1302
01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:48,100
Yeah, that's Willy's Wonderland while you make dinner. Yeah.

1303
01:02:48,660 --> 01:02:50,840
But yeah, thank you for being here.

1304
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,100
And anyone who is interested in chatting with us,

1305
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:57,640
we are on social media at Cage, underscore match, underscore pod on Twitter.

1306
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,940
Fuck you, Elon Musk.

1307
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:02,380
I'm never going to call it X and Instagram.

1308
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:05,040
And then if you are interested in supporting us on Patreon,

1309
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,980
we are there at Cage match and special thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh,

1310
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:13,320
Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam and Bill and our cage dancers,

1311
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Ira, John Freeman, Lance and Nathan.

1312
01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:18,720
Well, thanks so much for coming on.

1313
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Yeah, it was really nice to talk to you.

1314
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,100
Thanks for having me. It was fun.

1315
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:25,900
Yeah. Sometime when I go visit my brother down in Orlando,

1316
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:27,840
I'll have to stop over

1317
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,500
North Carolina and maybe get get a Nicolas Cage tattoo from you.

1318
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,680
I have to tattoo Nick Cage at some point on somebody.

1319
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:38,680
I am amazed you haven't.

1320
01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:40,220
Yeah, I don't know how I haven't.

1321
01:03:40,220 --> 01:03:43,720
Like I'll do it on myself. I need to tattoo myself several times.

1322
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,580
I just started the project of tattooing my left arm, which has been fun.

1323
01:03:47,980 --> 01:03:51,160
Yeah, I hope to be your first person.

1324
01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:53,860
They're not non self non person.

1325
01:03:53,860 --> 01:03:57,500
Your first non person to tattoo Nick. I'm Nick.

1326
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,960
You should get the pig from pig.

1327
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:01,440
Oh, you should.

1328
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,960
All right, man. Well, thank you so much for being here.

1329
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,200
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me again.

1330
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,380
You guys are. Bye bye.

1331
01:04:10,740 --> 01:04:12,080
Thank you.

1332
01:04:13,820 --> 01:04:15,580
Bye bye.

1333
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,260
Now, just in case we need it,

1334
01:04:21,260 --> 01:04:25,260
I'm going to say we're going to talk to Darryl real quick about Bobby

1335
01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:27,700
Peru and put it in right here.

1336
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:33,560
OK, we'll edit that out when we never get a hold of Darryl.

1337
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,360
Correct. Yeah, OK.

1338
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,300
I haven't seen that movie in such a long time.

1339
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:44,080
My my real solid only memory of it.

1340
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:46,440
Wait, there were tiny people in it at some point.

1341
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,680
And then I think there was the like trash man,

1342
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:54,140
like not trash person.

1343
01:04:54,140 --> 01:04:55,380
Let me rephrase.

1344
01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:57,660
There was the person by the dumpsters.

1345
01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:03,660
That's like a jump scare with the classic David Lynch like bar.

1346
01:05:03,660 --> 01:05:05,960
Just read trash bag out of nowhere.

1347
01:05:06,220 --> 01:05:07,960
Yeah, trash man.

1348
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,160
That's all I remember.

1349
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,340
I think there's a dead person.

1350
01:05:10,340 --> 01:05:31,580
Oh, no.