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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Yes. Hey, Nick, we kind of like matching or like similar themed shirts today.

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You know, we're space dudes. Right.

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This is planned. No, no.

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Well, if it were planned, I would have.

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No, I probably wouldn't have done it anyway.

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I don't know. You showed up with a turtleneck that one time.

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That's true. I did do that. Yeah.

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It was a inadvertent turtleneck party.

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Oh, wow. I don't think it was inadvertent.

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No, it was vertant. You're right.

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Yeah. It was just at Sean's expense.

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Yeah. I don't really see how it's at my expense.

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I like turtlenecks.

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In fact, I went pulling on after you guys got here. That's true.

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It was a slow burn, though.

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Yeah. Everyone just sort of slowly showed up with turtlenecks

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to this cocktail party that Sean was throwing.

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And then when Nick showed up, I'm like, you did this.

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Fantastic.

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Weird prank. Turtlenecks and chains.

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Good. Yeah. Good. So, yeah, we don't probably have to do too much.

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You know, getting to know you stuff.

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I say whatever the fuck I want to say.

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Fantastic. That's my brand.

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Fine. Yeah. Great. But stuff.

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Yeah. But stuff only.

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This is actually just my agenda for the night.

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It's just only here for the butt stuff today.

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I mean, we're going to talk. Try not to disappoint.

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Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know how much butt stuff was going on in there,

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but definitely that one guy was definitely murdered by but stuff.

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It was definitely. Yeah, there was murder by that stuff.

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Yes, that's true. That's true.

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A butt got real fucked.

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They got stuffed.

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It was butt stuffed.

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Ah, I just don't want to talk about mom and dad.

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I was do we just roll into it?

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Generally speaking, we trip ourselves over things until we suddenly get started.

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Oh, I usually usually by Sean making a good attempt at a segue.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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I'm glad you admit it. Yeah.

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I want to do it now. Good.

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Yeah, good. Then we are going to start. Good. Thanks.

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Welcome back to Cajamatch,

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going around about Nicholas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my cohost.

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I'm Nick and our producer, Peter. Hello.

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And special guest this week.

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Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself and tell the people what it is you do?

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My name is Brian Kim McCormick, and I'm an actor

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and produce all the things that you do in entertainment.

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So I've written, I've directed, I've edited, I've raised money.

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So jack of all trades, I guess, or starving artists.

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No, I'm not starving.

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So I'll just I'll just stick with artists.

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So I managed to get that far. So.

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Were you starving at one point?

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No, no, I've been pretty blessed, actually.

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I went to school to be a doctor or criminal profiler for the CIA

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and then pivoted into musical theater

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because that's what you do.

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And very actually, they were they just, you know, well, actually,

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you know, now they're very in their old age.

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All they care about is like, oh, we get to see you in things or this.

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You know, they're very popular in their retirement community

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because they can brag about me.

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So I'm glad I could bring that to them.

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But no, I I was a major hustler in my 20s.

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And so I was acting at night and then overnight working in like a hospital.

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And then I was also a semi pro gambler for a large period of time.

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We've had a weird amount of those on the show.

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Two is a weird amount. Yeah. Yeah.

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When talking about Nicholas Cage.

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You got to meet our Atlantic City boys. Yeah.

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Oh, hey, when my 10 years in New York,

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I spent a fair amount of time in Atlantic City.

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I love AC. You might know them already.

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What was your game of choice?

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I am a Texas Holden player.

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OK, no one ever says back around.

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I'm not, but I'd be willing to learn.

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You know, it's just it.

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A lot of these games cost a lot of money to to learn.

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So I paid my dues, I think, in poker with learning and losing money.

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And I still lose money, but I don't think as badly anymore.

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I do manage to make a little so.

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I think back around pretty easy, isn't it?

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Like two cards, whoever is closest to nine.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And then you make money or lose money.

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Well, if it's at a casino, chances are they they're going to be losing money.

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So, Brian, well, Sean is going and getting his dog for you.

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Yes.

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What is your relationship to our lovely Nicholas Cage?

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Oh, I guess a fan for sure.

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I mean, he has quite the career.

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And, you know, I think these two movies are great.

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Example of what I think he.

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Has evolved into, you know, I mean,

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I think my first real introduction to him was probably Raising Arizona.

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And then maybe again with like Conair and then just popping up everywhere.

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And then, you know, it never like I guess I was never a super fan.

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I'll say that. Like I enjoy his movies.

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I enjoy his work, but I'm never necessarily seeking out a Nicholas Cage movie.

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Although now he's pivoted into this weird

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horror action thriller side of his career.

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And that's horror is my favorite genre.

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So that is I you know, if he's in a horror something, I will watch it.

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I can't imagine him doing much of like a romantic comedy that I would be like,

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yes, I need to see Nicholas Cage woo somebody, but kill somebody.

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Yes, we need more romantic comedies with 60 year old men in them.

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Yeah. Right. Yeah.

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Bring back Rosie Perez. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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He did kind of have that every man like romantic lead for a minute.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But speaking of the horror stuff, he's got a new movie coming out soon.

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Arcadian. And it's yes.

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So far, like rating pretty well, like people dig it.

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So that's that's awesome.

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I'm excited to get a chance to go see that at some point soon.

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So we'll have some fresh content for everyone.

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Yeah. This old stage.

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Twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Get fucked.

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These are classic, though.

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I mean, I don't I enjoy mom and dad, actually.

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It's for well, most of it.

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Let's do it. Is your beef with it, the ending or lack thereof?

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Sure. I mean, here's here's my for both of them.

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Honestly, I'll put them in like a little lowercase H horror.

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I think they do fall in the category of the greater sphere of it,

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but I wouldn't necessarily class call it classic by any means.

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Mandy, a little bit more so, but we'll we'll get into that.

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But I think for me, the biggest pet peeve I have with mom and dad

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is that it's only an hour and 20 minutes, but it feels like an hour 45.

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And it ramps up really well.

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Like, I love the premise.

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I mean, who, you know, it really builds nicely.

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But as soon as we start focusing on the main family,

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all the stakes are gone because the kids are never really in danger.

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And unless you're the black kid.

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Well, OK, so well, I was going to bring that up.

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It's like the the keeping true to horror, like the worst things

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were happening to the minorities in the movie.

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But I'm but it kids also like the little boy I for also the daughter

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for being such kind of a bitchy teenager like who knew it all.

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She sure as hell didn't know what the hell was going on when kind of the signs

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were, you know, there was enough information for her to piece together

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that her parents are crazy.

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She needs to get her ass into her house, rip her brother out of the house

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and get the fuck out of there.

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But now she's like, I'm going to talk to you under the bed

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and we're going to sit like you don't got time for that.

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And then he just ruins everything because he's like, mom, dad, are you?

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Is it really you? So all of those pet peeves.

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But, you know, but the but, you know, getting up into it,

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it there was it started out as a very promising movie, I think.

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It's a fine time for all those kids who wanted a new dad

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to just get out and get a new dad.

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It'd be fine because old dad wants to kill you.

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Yeah, new dad. Right. Right.

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They're probably fucking chill as hell with you.

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Yeah, you don't even have blackmail old dad to get out of that relationship.

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You can just leave.

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You just swap. I mean, yeah.

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Little family swap action. Exactly.

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And then they started actually like crossing their own rules

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in their world building that that was getting like

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how much violence they were showing to the black kid.

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Like when he first got home, either he was drunk and all the things

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and he just hates black people and definitely not him to be his daughter's boyfriend.

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Or he's already breaking the rule for trying to knock him unconscious

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as a priority instead of going after his daughter.

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God, that big fucking meat hand.

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Yeah. Bounces his head off the ground.

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That was all. Yeah.

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I remember Peter and I watched this last night and going back into it,

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I was just like, you know, I really wanted this movie to go a bit harder

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with the violence. And then, yeah, when that scene happens, I'm like, no, never mind.

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This movie does go kind of hard at times.

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My concern with the violence in this is that every time they have a good

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like action scene or like something like really tense

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or building is happening, they cut away to some like

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fucking yogurt story 10 years ago.

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And it's like, come on, just fucking stay with the movie. Yeah.

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I didn't need to know that Josh hit a fucking dead bird

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in his dad's T-bird or whatever.

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Well, also those weird flashbacks, I think they could have worked

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if they would have like put them in relevant points in the story.

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Agreed. Like when the kid like runs into the car

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didn't like run away from his dad. Do it then.

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Why the fuck did the kid start the car and then just get out?

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I wondered that too.

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Because fucking Josh. God damn it.

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So many think again, because he's a dumb kid.

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He's the one who was like, oh, they must be like it wasn't for his sister.

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He would undo their their their

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restraints at the end of the movie.

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And do what do we think happened?

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I mean, they have to just rot.

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They dragged the parents into the basement, tied them up,

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and then sat there waiting for them to wake up when they could have just left.

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Or call the police because the cops weren't going to kill you. Yeah.

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Yeah, literally no one else is going to kill you.

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Like, that's it. Yeah.

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It's those two fuckers. A minority. Well, right. Yeah.

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I mean, the cards were stacked against him anyway. Yeah.

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Why was that lady so concerned with the kid leaving the PSA tease?

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Like, you got more time.

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This is really going to affect your life.

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It's like, no, it's the fucking PSA tease.

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Right. And that's the thing, actually, I felt bad about.

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I felt weird about too, is that, you know, he's trying to be set up

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as this character who's the smart one.

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He texts, you know, I crushed this test.

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And then what did he say?

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He said there was some word he used and I was like, I don't think that's a real word.

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I think if you put that on the piece that you would have failed,

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I think it was like hugest or something.

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He used some huger.

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He used some weird word.

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And then again, if he's going to be the brains of the like the show, the movie,

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then like it seemed he was only literally there to be the punching bag.

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Like any time there needed to be violence instead of hitting the daughter,

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they were like, let's just hit the black man.

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Which in 2017 maybe didn't sit as bad as now.

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It's like, oh, yeah, that's a little weird.

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A little bit worse now. We're still figuring things out.

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Yeah. Right. Exactly.

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Punch your daughter. It's fine.

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But I think the I think the most horrific scene in the movie, though,

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was after the sister gives birth and whether or not she was going to kill that baby.

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And that was the line where I was like, where is this movie?

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Is it going to cross it?

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Is it going to go there and be really fucked up?

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Or is it going to stay?

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Opportunity to bite its head off.

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I just go Ozzy Osborne on it and just like write it in.

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I do want to say, though, Nick, you did bring up a good point about

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him being able to hit his daughter's movie.

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She did try and light him on fire.

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True. So by our own rules, he gets one punch.

245
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Yeah, one punch. So that's fair.

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For your context, Brian, we with the Wicker Man,

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we decided that if someone is trying to light you on fire,

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then you can gender, you can punch them no matter what.

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All right. There.

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She wants to punch.

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But even that fire, like, and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Maybe I maybe I don't know how gas works enough.

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But based on the way and how much gas had filled that basement

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after it was lit, I think it would be a much bigger explosion

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and also have gone back through the hose and like wherever the main source

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and just, you know, that was like a gentle

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like fart lit on fire and blew him across the room.

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We want to get technical.

259
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Honestly, it probably would not have ignited.

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Oh, it's a very specific like you've got a backdraft situation

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where the door is introducing oxygen.

262
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Yeah. And so you do have the gas fuel.

263
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OK. Oxygen.

264
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Because I've been watching a lot of Mythbusters.

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I burn a lot of things and like stoichiometry is a thing.

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Well, it is convenient that he like struck the matches

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and then just held the door open and then, you know,

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allowed the matches to be able to catch nicely.

269
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The idea of that trap, though, that was a pretty cool.

270
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It was a good trap. Yeah.

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It was her best idea of the entire movie.

272
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She finally proved her worth.

273
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This movie needed to home alone a bit harder.

274
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Yes. And that would have been great.

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A little bit of like comedy in it, like put the parents to the ringers.

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That would have been fun.

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I think this movie just had like three ideas and that's like where they left it.

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It's like, oh, man, we'll have parents attacking children.

279
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OK, I like it. And at one point, we're going to have like a sawzall

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and we'll say it's all like, OK, you're a new homeowner.

281
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You just discovered this tool. Yeah. Write it into the movie.

282
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That's fine. And we'll punch a black kid.

283
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OK, we got ourselves a film. Let's green light this.

284
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This is terrible.

285
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I mean, it is from the guy who made Crank.

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Like it does feel like from the guy who made feels like also

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a ghostwriter, Spirit of Von Johnson and Spirit of Von Johnson.

288
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You're right. A movie that I think fucking rules.

289
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Yes. Yeah.

290
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So this is really like a low point in that director's career.

291
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Yeah. I mean, it was entertaining.

292
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I had fun up till maybe like the last 20 minutes.

293
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I do love the directors like frenetic, like energy

294
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when it comes to action and chasing, like that's all fun to watch.

295
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And like the payoff of the grandparents coming over is.

296
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Yeah, yeah, that is.

297
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That was a fun, delightful, stupid.

298
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That's the entire movie.

299
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My favorite part of the movie is just the old man

300
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getting like weird war story ish over like stabbing his kid.

301
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But that is another situation where the rules are broken

302
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because the mother-in-law tries to kill Kendall.

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Kendall. Exactly.

304
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That's a stripper name.

305
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Unless this is just how she is.

306
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And she's always hated Kendall and like, you're not good enough for my son.

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You whore that I'm trying to kill my that I'm trying to kill Brent.

308
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Yeah. Right.

309
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Yeah, exactly.

310
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Brent, what a terrible name.

311
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Brent is a shitty name.

312
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Brent and can Brent and Kendall.

313
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Have you known many Brent's?

314
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I have known three Brent's actually, which is really maybe one.

315
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Many brands. I think I know too.

316
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I have a friend named Brett who everyone thinks is named Brent.

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I would change my fucking name if I was named Brett

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and everyone called me Brent.

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That's horrible.

320
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Like both are bad names.

321
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Sorry, Brett. Brett doesn't listen to this. Good.

322
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No, Brett's listen to this.

323
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This is Brett free.

324
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Brett Airwaves.

325
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I mean, I grew up in Minnesota, so we were against the Brett.

326
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All the. Yeah, we're we're calling it now.

327
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We're an anti Brett podcast.

328
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Anti Brett, anti Brent.

329
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If it sounds like you play lacrosse, get the fuck out of here.

330
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We're not into this.

331
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You're out of here, Mackenzie.

332
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That applies to male Mackenzie's, male Kenzie's.

333
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That's what I was thinking.

334
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Yeah, Kenzie.

335
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Clarification.

336
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Lady Mackenzie's can listen if they like.

337
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Yeah, that's fine. Lady Lacrosse.

338
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You're cool. Yeah.

339
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You can listen to this podcast, but you won't.

340
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That does fit my type.

341
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My feeling on this movie is that it was way more fun than it deserves to be.

342
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It is not a good movie, but it is kind of a delight.

343
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I think that's a credit to your actors in it.

344
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Like without Nicholas or even her.

345
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I mean, they were both great together.

346
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I would have watched them and could have cared less about the kids.

347
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I mean, if they wanted to kill the kids from the start and just deal with,

348
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oh, we just killed our kids. Now, what do we do?

349
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That would have been OK to me, too.

350
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Was it weird to anyone else that like they never established him

351
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as being like a great father?

352
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They always establish him as being kind of unhinged.

353
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So yeah, the weird event doesn't seem to matter.

354
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It's just like he kind of woke up one day and was like,

355
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I'm going to go with the flow today.

356
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Let's see what let's see what the people are doing.

357
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,600
Yeah. Oh, we're killing kids today.

358
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,860
Nice. I've been thinking about this.

359
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Maybe I could knock off one or two more that are just not on the list.

360
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Where do you think the signal started?

361
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Who sent who's attacking us?

362
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I just like the fact that that's a part of it is just upsetting to me.

363
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I'm like, why is that even there?

364
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Just have them start killing people.

365
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I just needed this movie to have like two more months in the writing room.

366
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This needed to be developed so much more for me.

367
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Like I watch it and I'm just like, why is that happening?

368
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Why is that happening?

369
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There's not even like an attempt at it.

370
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This movie bothers me.

371
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And I had to review or revisit like why it went forward.

372
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And it's because it was going up against Next or something.

373
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Yeah, it was next.

374
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No amount of exploding.

375
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Jessica Beals would say of next.

376
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I don't know.

377
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Now that I've watched Mom and Dad again, I kind of think I should have gone back in time.

378
00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:04,120
No, no. This is where this is worth talking about.

379
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It's enjoyable.

380
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It's a struggle for me,

381
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but it's not horror enough or comedy enough for me.

382
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True. I think is my problem.

383
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It's like everything just falls a little short.

384
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There's moments I enjoyed for sure.

385
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I liked the grandparents.

386
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I liked when the mom gave birth

387
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and then she stands up and the umbilical cords just dragging on. Yeah.

388
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,420
Yeah, that was gnarly. That was pretty gnarly.

389
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I'm sad they didn't bite the umbilical cord to get it away fast enough.

390
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,220
Like, oh, but I think I just want more biting in this.

391
00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:39,560
There's a couple bites.

392
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There was a there was some biting because the daughter bites Kendall.

393
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Yeah, which was a gunshot wound, which damn.

394
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I did. I did appreciate the use of a hanger as a weapon by the mom.

395
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Yeah, that was pretty how she got it through his cheek.

396
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That's impressive.

397
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And nobody tried to just restrain the hanger arm.

398
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,540
It's like, no, just hold the closet.

399
00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:04,780
Why didn't they wrap the fucking closet door shut?

400
00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:08,220
Exactly. There was a thing right there on the handle.

401
00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:12,160
And and it's just like that's another example of dumb kids.

402
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,100
Like kids are the worst.

403
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,860
We should kill them. The whole movie.

404
00:20:15,860 --> 00:20:17,800
These kids, they've been trying to kill you.

405
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And now you're just going to like chill out

406
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in this while she's behind this closet where she's already proven

407
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,440
that she's like close to breaking out and we're just going to laugh about it.

408
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,080
Like you deserve the hanger then that that she that's what you get.

409
00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:33,940
You hear that, fetuses?

410
00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:44,020
I hope my ex-girlfriend's new girlfriend keeps listening to this podcast.

411
00:20:44,020 --> 00:20:47,680
But I think I also enjoy this

412
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because I've just seen a string of bad horror movies in theaters.

413
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And so it's just like this is at least a better than them.

414
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Even with all of its flaws.

415
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Without getting into it too much for Mandy, I do appreciate that.

416
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,200
Both these movies are kind of like attempts at schlocky,

417
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like 70s, 80 B movies with a budget and with Nicolas Cage.

418
00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:13,780
Yeah. Well, mom and dad probably didn't even have that huge of a budget.

419
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I had enough of a budget for Nicolas Cage. Sure.

420
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But it was also like the beginning of him coming back.

421
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So he probably wasn't bringing in more than a couple of mills.

422
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They just rented a house and like they got an Airbnb for a weekend.

423
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,420
Right. And they're like, hey, guys, check it out.

424
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I slapped together this script and that house probably was set up

425
00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,600
that way, too, with all the dumb fucking stuff on the walls.

426
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,240
Oh, yeah. You didn't even have to do any set dressing.

427
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,400
That's suburbia to a T.

428
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From a visual perspective, like what do you think of this movie overall?

429
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,380
I think editing saved it.

430
00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:49,940
And but I also love I like the color palette that they use in it.

431
00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:53,220
And I like a little bit of washed out suburban look.

432
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,380
Yeah. Suburban lighting.

433
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Everything is just a little bit soft.

434
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,720
And I think it's a good contrast to Mandy in the sense that like

435
00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:05,400
Mandy is a visual art piece.

436
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,340
And this is like a movie like this is something you can watch at home.

437
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:13,200
Mandy is something that was better in the theater or in a nice,

438
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like big screen, complete darkness.

439
00:22:15,980 --> 00:22:17,540
Just be immersed in that world.

440
00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:20,940
But mom and dad could just, you know, you could have commercial breaks on TBS

441
00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:24,120
and be cooking dinner and you'd catch everything important.

442
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,620
Yeah, it's pretty well put.

443
00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:31,660
So you watch it. OK, this is a slight off shoot.

444
00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:33,280
You watch a lot of horror movies.

445
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,200
What would you say is one horror movie slightly better

446
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,100
and one horror movie slightly worse than this?

447
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,040
What are its neighbors?

448
00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:46,240
OK, that's a great question.

449
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,640
Wow. OK, I think something similar in vain,

450
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,040
but kind of gives you like the violence that you want.

451
00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:56,520
And it was that horror movie that came out.

452
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,920
And I apologize, I don't remember the name.

453
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,260
Mayhem. Stephen Youn is in it.

454
00:23:02,260 --> 00:23:05,900
It's the office. They I think Blumhouse produced it.

455
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,340
Every employee has to like kill another employee to like move on to the next round.

456
00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:14,440
And to me, it works because it's similar in like visual.

457
00:23:15,020 --> 00:23:19,540
It's a little high paid, fast edit, you know, quick kill, lots of violence.

458
00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:22,780
But it ups the violence more because it's all adults.

459
00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:27,060
And so and then slightly worse.

460
00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:30,760
I'll go with what was in theaters recently.

461
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,840
I I'll I just saw immaculate.

462
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,740
That was long and boring and the payoff was not good.

463
00:23:39,740 --> 00:23:43,140
So mom and dad is definitely shorter than.

464
00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:45,780
OK, so yeah, that's the bonus point.

465
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,120
But but immaculate does have

466
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umbilical cord biting off in it.

467
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So you do get that. That's awesome.

468
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Sorry, spoiler. I apologize.

469
00:23:56,860 --> 00:23:58,700
I should I shouldn't.

470
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,520
I don't think there's a huge overlap of people who listen to our show

471
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,560
and people who care about a spoiler for immaculate.

472
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,400
People who listen to our show and then actually watch movies.

473
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,140
Nobody watches the movies we talk about.

474
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:12,780
You'd be surprised.

475
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:14,080
Nathan does.

476
00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:17,680
We do have a couple of friends, though, who don't listen to our podcasts

477
00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:20,340
because they say they haven't watched the movie and they want to watch the movies

478
00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:24,820
first. I'm like, you never go watch 60 for Nick Cage movies.

479
00:24:24,860 --> 00:24:26,420
Not a fucking chance.

480
00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:27,380
That's a lot.

481
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:29,380
Like, we don't even want to do that.

482
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:31,560
And we have we have done that.

483
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,320
We've watched more than that.

484
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,660
Yeah, that's true.

485
00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:37,700
Yeah, this is going to be we'll have something like 70 episodes

486
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:40,200
by the time we're done with the bracket and some bonus episodes.

487
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,540
So, so yeah, we're in the thick of it for sure.

488
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Do you have a prediction of what do you all have your favorite front runners

489
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or what you think?

490
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,140
I mean, without giving too much away, I think I've got a couple of like top dogs

491
00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:55,820
that I would be pretty satisfied to see make it all the way.

492
00:24:55,820 --> 00:25:00,120
I don't think there's going to be one that I'm going to be like, fuck you.

493
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:04,700
Yeah, I've got maybe a top five, but I don't think there's some

494
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:07,600
like really strong ones in some of the categories.

495
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,940
I don't know. I feel like some categories just are better vehicles

496
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:12,280
for Nicholas Cage, for sure.

497
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Romantic comedy is not the best for him.

498
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,940
Sure. Captain Crowley's mandolin all the way, baby.

499
00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:17,940
Oh, yeah.

500
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,740
I enjoy that movie.

501
00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:23,020
It's a good movie, but I just I cannot imagine that one making it.

502
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,660
It's fine if you're a fascist sympathizer.

503
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:29,660
We do live in America.

504
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,120
I just love Mondra's, that dumb fuck

505
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,820
getting shot in the ass by a cannon.

506
00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:37,200
Yeah, that's pretty good. His best role.

507
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,360
It is probably his best role.

508
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,540
There's the butt stuff.

509
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:45,540
We found it on the matrix of good movie.

510
00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:48,300
Good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.

511
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:53,080
Where would you put this movie and this Nicholas Cage performance?

512
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,340
I would say this is average for him.

513
00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,680
I think he this is pretty Nicholas Cage, but he didn't go.

514
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,100
He had a few moments, you know, a few eye looks or things.

515
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,600
But I think he could have, as you were saying,

516
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,060
he could have even gone further with his crazy.

517
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,260
So I but it was it was an average good performance.

518
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,300
I think for me, I would put the movie as bad

519
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:21,240
and his performance as square in the middle mid

520
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400
other than some of those like good snapshots of him,

521
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,080
him getting blown up in slow mo pretty fucking solid.

522
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280
Good phase. Now, that's not an acting.

523
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,440
He's a better actor. He got blown up for real.

524
00:26:34,740 --> 00:26:37,320
But like so, you know, a bad and a mid.

525
00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:40,380
And I like this movie a lot.

526
00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:45,100
Like I think it's fun and stupid and it's an easy short movie to watch.

527
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,660
Yes, could be shorter. Could be.

528
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:51,740
Or just faster. Just cut a little like move things along faster.

529
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,140
Yeah. Yeah, faster.

530
00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:56,280
I enjoyed this movie a lot more than I thought I would on the rewatch.

531
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,940
Like all the problems I remember having with it.

532
00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:01,120
I'm like, no, this is just dumb fun.

533
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:03,820
I it's not a good movie, but it's a fun movie.

534
00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:08,820
So I put it on like I put on the leaning on the bad side of like fine.

535
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,820
As for Nick Cage, I think he does some good work in this.

536
00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:16,420
I really like the crazy to like normal switch.

537
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:18,260
He does a few times.

538
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:23,800
And he has worked with this director before and with Spirit of On Johns and.

539
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,700
He gave exactly what I think he was supposed to give for this movie.

540
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,480
I think he did his job. Josh.

541
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:40,580
I think this is a bad movie and a bad take from Nicholas Cage

542
00:27:40,580 --> 00:27:44,280
and that's not necessarily all his fault.

543
00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:47,380
I think it's just Primal's fucking gold.

544
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,860
Primal, he had something to sink his teeth into.

545
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:55,920
I just don't feel like he had a like anything given to him

546
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:57,460
for like a script.

547
00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:00,120
It's like, here's some dailies and we're just going to work through this

548
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,260
and just give us whatever you want.

549
00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:04,940
I'm not going to bother directing you.

550
00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:09,540
Nothing felt like, I don't know, strong about his performance.

551
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:14,000
Like it was just like, I'm going to read the line and I'm going to do something.

552
00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:16,980
And that's how I'm going to collect my money today.

553
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,580
I don't think he cared about it.

554
00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:21,720
And I could be completely wrong.

555
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,780
I'd be surprised if this is a role he cared about.

556
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:26,820
I watched some interviews from this one.

557
00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:27,820
He likes the director.

558
00:28:27,820 --> 00:28:29,520
He likes to interview.

559
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,460
And he likes to say positive things about the shows and movies.

560
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:35,860
He does. It's true, because he wants people to watch them.

561
00:28:35,860 --> 00:28:37,160
Because that's how he gets paid.

562
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,500
It doesn't work for your career if you just dog shit.

563
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:43,200
Yeah. When you when you go out on a press tour and you start bagging on your job,

564
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
they will start wondering why they hired you.

565
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Don't come watch this movie. It sucks.

566
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,640
I didn't even the Madame Web effect.

567
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,840
Hmm. Yeah.

568
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,620
So and yeah, I think this comes down to a movie

569
00:28:54,620 --> 00:28:56,620
I wouldn't even recommend to somebody.

570
00:28:56,620 --> 00:28:58,580
I would highly recommend this movie to people.

571
00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:00,320
I would I would recommend.

572
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,720
This is why people don't talk to you, though.

573
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,620
No, there are a lot of reasons people don't talk to me.

574
00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,220
It's high on the list. Mom and dad.

575
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,400
No, because people are always asking for like accessible horror to what I can.

576
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,660
It's not too gory.

577
00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:14,640
It's not too scary.

578
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,340
And it's got a familiar face.

579
00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:18,900
So, you know, you can be comfortable.

580
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:20,880
But yeah, I would push this movie.

581
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,180
That's fine. I mean, you're only a guest for one night. Great.

582
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,560
Well established that our guests have no power at all,

583
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,820
but we still want their opinion. Yes.

584
00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:38,460
I mean, I can see why there would be an appeal for it.

585
00:29:38,460 --> 00:29:40,720
It's not a movie for me.

586
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Aside from a couple of scenes in it where I'm like, OK,

587
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600
that would have been cooler if they fleshed it out.

588
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240
It could have used a couple more dead kids.

589
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,280
Or it could have used like a bunch of old people breaking out at the end

590
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,980
and like a big like everybody like getting the pit, like, yes.

591
00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:01,020
In the middle, old people versus baby boomers.

592
00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:03,020
Fight. That would have been cool.

593
00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:07,460
Yeah. Like once we've established that, like grandparents are fighting back.

594
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,200
Absolutely. Then you like. Yes.

595
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Cut through because you don't want to spoil that.

596
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,960
That was a good reveal. Yeah.

597
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160
It's just like the doors breaking down in an old folks home.

598
00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:22,240
Yeah. Like they're Vietnam, like trauma.

599
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,380
Yeah, that would.

600
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,540
Siphalus because it's an old folks home.

601
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,220
Yeah, it is rampant. Old folks.

602
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,060
Fuck. That's how they kill you the slow way.

603
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:38,220
They just come back and have sex with you.

604
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:40,100
Hopefully not parents having sex with their kids.

605
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,400
I was going to say that takes a weirder angle with this movie.

606
00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:47,640
Well, we got to stay kind of close to the the core concept.

607
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,100
Oh, I was really wondering,

608
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:53,700
would this be an awesome way to find out you were adopted? Oh, yeah.

609
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:56,880
That like you just come home and like have a nice dinner

610
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,280
with your no longer parents and or not so parents.

611
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,680
It's like, oh, shit.

612
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,780
You know how everybody else is like killing?

613
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:07,420
Like if you never if you didn't know you were adopted,

614
00:31:07,420 --> 00:31:10,460
how conflicted would you be if like you got home, your parents

615
00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:12,000
aren't trying to kill you?

616
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,420
Yeah, I feel like I'd be pretty happy about not being dead, but

617
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,900
I'd have some feelings. Yeah.

618
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,000
I would be terrible, though, because like if you survive

619
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,740
and you're just out in the world, there's someone out there

620
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,640
who desperately wants to kill you.

621
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,480
Mm hmm. If they can find you.

622
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720
And they might not even know why. Yeah.

623
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,260
So if you don't have a public job like Weatherman,

624
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,660
you just see a picture of somebody.

625
00:31:32,660 --> 00:31:34,120
Why do I want to kill that person?

626
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Really want to fuck that guy up?

627
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,100
That's just normal weatherman feeling.

628
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,300
I mean, there are definitely people like that out there.

629
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,560
Yeah, true enough.

630
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Any final thoughts on this one?

631
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,100
It's a romp.

632
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,900
It's a romp.

633
00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:54,280
A romp and a romp. Perfect. Mm hmm.

634
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:57,840
Mandy. Nice.

635
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,920
I like your new segues.

636
00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:01,820
What's a segway?

637
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,220
Very clear.

638
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:07,420
I fucking love Mandy.

639
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,220
I'm just going to say that this movie is awesome.

640
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,500
It's terrific.

641
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,520
I actually know exactly what you were talking about.

642
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560
And I watch it big screen

643
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,560
with like the the backlighting on the TV and all the lights off.

644
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,500
And oh, it's such a visual feast.

645
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,700
I fired up the volcano and I just got. Yeah.

646
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,600
Really into this movie.

647
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Good.

648
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,040
And the scenes where like the cultist is like staring

649
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,400
and he's on drugs and I'm on drugs.

650
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440
And we're just doing this together.

651
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,740
You're there. You're vibing.

652
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:41,820
He's fucking failing at a tuck and pose.

653
00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:44,620
Just Buffalo Bill and all over my screen.

654
00:32:44,620 --> 00:32:48,780
It's like nose shaped dick.

655
00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:52,160
I just such a good movie.

656
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
I love the scene where he's like staring at you

657
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,260
and he's doing his little dance and the beams of the house

658
00:32:57,260 --> 00:32:59,700
are like right behind his head to like be like beams

659
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:01,460
coming out of his life. Oh, yeah.

660
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:02,900
Just this movie is nice.

661
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,640
So well.

662
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Yeah.

663
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,480
This movie will always remind me of like heavy metal.

664
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,540
Yeah, it's like a live action heavy metal.

665
00:33:13,540 --> 00:33:18,620
Right down to like Mandy is kind of like a like a druid lady

666
00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:24,780
and Nicolas Cage is a paladin who is out there like on his.

667
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:26,960
Making his act. Yeah.

668
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560
So I'm glad you brought that up, because actually when I was

669
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,320
watching this, I was texting Sean because this movie like

670
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,860
it's grody to me.

671
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:35,500
Like I don't super love it.

672
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:39,860
I think it is a visual masterpiece, but I don't generally

673
00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:43,840
love like the storyline, the grossness of it.

674
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,400
I was thinking like, fuck, I kind of wish this were like a really,

675
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,320
really intense animated movie, like something like that,

676
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,380
where you can just go fucking wild, take the same visual concepts,

677
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:58,620
but just like take it to that next level because of animation.

678
00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:02,960
And that to me is kind of like where it hits the sweet spot for me.

679
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,700
This one, like watching Mandy's boring face, like pulsing in and out

680
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,760
for fucking an hour, like I'm not into it.

681
00:34:11,140 --> 00:34:13,000
It just doesn't do it for me.

682
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,100
I love that slow build. I don't know why.

683
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:16,240
Yeah, nothing really happens.

684
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:20,400
You have to be in the right mind hour, but it just it goes and like.

685
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:22,240
I mean, things are happening. Yeah.

686
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:25,180
There's plot points hitting hard the whole time,

687
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,880
but he doesn't start killing people.

688
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,180
He doesn't fight back. Yeah.

689
00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:31,660
The thing I noticed is, yeah, you have that hour

690
00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:35,260
and then he goes gets the crossbow and the axe

691
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:39,020
and then you get the Mandy title card and then it's just him.

692
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,060
Yeah. Pick up.

693
00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:44,460
And I'm like, you could start the movie here and it would still be amazing.

694
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,200
But I would have preferred that.

695
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,340
I love an hour of just the protagonist being just beaten down.

696
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:53,680
Oh, yeah. Physically and emotionally.

697
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,540
And like the audience is feeling shitty.

698
00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:59,980
Yeah. And then it's like, finally, you get that moment of resistance

699
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:02,180
and fighting back and it's like, fuck, yeah, let's do this.

700
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:02,880
I'm here with you.

701
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,520
I'm not saying that's how you should do the movie.

702
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080
I'm saying this could be a separate film and it still would. Sure.

703
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:09,960
Go hard. Yeah.

704
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,160
And I love to that even at that halfway mark, after he gets his weapons,

705
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,560
we feel like he's on his, you know, he's going to go fuck some people up.

706
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,160
He gets fucked up like immediately.

707
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,840
And it's like, OK, no, he's still not invincible.

708
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Like still just a dude.

709
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,500
It's going to be a struggle. Yeah.

710
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,040
So and then he does all the drugs.

711
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,680
All of them.

712
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,140
He does set out on his crusade starting off by like slamming

713
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:35,020
half a bottle of vodka. That's true.

714
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:40,520
So it's no wonder that like his initial like endeavors fail.

715
00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:44,960
Yeah. Man, I want some of that weird, like gross dark Vaseline.

716
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,700
The demon semen.

717
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,360
Give me some of that shit, man.

718
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,400
Like turns the world into a cartoon.

719
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,060
Yeah. Yeah. I want to fuck with that.

720
00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:57,300
It gives you cool like Indiana Jones face melting skills. Right.

721
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,780
Have any of you watched Beyond the Black Rainbow?

722
00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:03,240
No, I still need to see it.

723
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:07,780
I say that I'm going to about every three weeks and I still haven't done it.

724
00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:08,780
I really want to watch it.

725
00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:11,560
I watched the trailer for it and it was like right up against me

726
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,920
watching this movie and I was like, I'm not going to watch that right now.

727
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,860
Yeah, it's another like hugely visual. Yeah.

728
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,960
Yeah. Yeah. I actually thought it was the same DP, but it's a different guy.

729
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,060
So that was kind of shocking.

730
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:27,440
This DP, though, also did dream scenario, which was kind of interesting.

731
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,800
Fun fact. Yeah.

732
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,100
We should watch Beyond the Black Rainbow at some point. Yeah.

733
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,360
And the core and the core.

734
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,300
Brian, have you seen the core?

735
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:35,300
I love the core.

736
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:36,360
The core fucking rules.

737
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,600
The core is so good.

738
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,260
I have to watch this movie.

739
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:42,040
Oh, you've never seen it.

740
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,240
I've never seen the core. Sean's never seen it.

741
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,200
Oh, you know the premise, though. Yeah.

742
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,780
Yes. OK, good.

743
00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:51,280
I showed him the orange being sprayed on fire.

744
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,520
So he gets it.

745
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:55,520
That's all you need to know.

746
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,880
Oh, I was working at Hollywood video in Chanhassen, Minnesota

747
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,460
when that movie came out.

748
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:04,060
And so when it came, we could rent it.

749
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:07,620
I was just like, wow, this this is quite a premise.

750
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,060
And what a cast, though.

751
00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:10,740
I mean, it's incredible.

752
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:13,500
You got the tooch. Yeah.

753
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,500
Got a little so, you know, it's going to be big.

754
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,640
Absolutely. Aaron Eckhart.

755
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,380
Everything he touches is gold.

756
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:22,100
Yeah. I think Hillary Swank thought she was going to get a third.

757
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:25,040
Probably. Oh, my God. Yeah.

758
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,880
That was just for us.

759
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,320
T.J. Qualls, everybody.

760
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,280
They got everybody.

761
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,280
All those.

762
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,120
Dude, I ran into T.J. Qualls recently.

763
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:36,660
Really? Yeah, he was.

764
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:39,120
Well, he was at a bar, I think, in Sherman Oaks

765
00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:41,860
and doing like karaoke.

766
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Cool. Fuck. Yeah.

767
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,900
He wasn't participating, but he was there with some friends and was like, oh, wow.

768
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Yeah, I think he's great and everything.

769
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:53,340
Yeah. And T.J. Qualls is one of those celebrities that like,

770
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:59,440
you don't see that guy out and you're like, maybe that's T.J. Qualls. Right. No, no.

771
00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:01,440
He's got a face.

772
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,880
He sure does. And he's tall, too, right?

773
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:05,960
Yes. Taller than me. Five eight.

774
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,280
So he's at least five, nine, five, ten.

775
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,320
Well, one thought I had watching this film,

776
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,460
Peter and I were kind of texting about it because Peter was like,

777
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:18,800
this isn't for me and I'm just on a fucking ride.

778
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:21,440
And I'm just like, all right, how can I describe

779
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,520
this film in a way that really like maybe it'll get it across?

780
00:38:24,820 --> 00:38:27,920
The first thing is I love weird cosmic horror.

781
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,060
I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of gore unless it's like

782
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,020
evil, dead, hyperviolence.

783
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:37,100
It's where it goes from the point of like, I'm uncomfortable with.

784
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,460
The amount of blood.

785
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:43,400
You know, that looks too real to just like it's so stupidly over the top.

786
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,000
I'm like, that can never happen.

787
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,780
Yeah. And this movie rides more of the gross line for me, but I'm here for it.

788
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:54,080
And I think it's because it's starting to start to get into that weird.

789
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,220
Maybe demons, maybe, you know, looking past the veil

790
00:38:58,220 --> 00:39:03,820
and him becoming like mad, which is just my jam for horror.

791
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,120
And the other thought I had was

792
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,300
this is kind of a weird dissection of like the slasher film.

793
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,660
Mm hmm. You have the hippies who are all into drugs and bad things

794
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:19,440
and they have to be punished and the monster is just one they created.

795
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Yeah. And all the classics acts chainsaw crossbow chainsaw fights.

796
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,140
So good.

797
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:31,740
It felt to me like it was a giant Dungeons and Dragons campaign.

798
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:36,920
Oh, yeah. This is just people making this story up as they go.

799
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,660
And they're like, and then blood spewed everywhere, man.

800
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:44,200
And he chopped his guy's head off and he got in the car and there was flame.

801
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,760
And there was tigers.

802
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,700
And then like their faces melted.

803
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:52,740
Like, yeah, I think for me, violence, when it's merited,

804
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,780
I don't, you know, depending on what you're trying to get at, like saw to me,

805
00:39:56,780 --> 00:40:00,200
I think the first one was important for the genre.

806
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,120
But now that we're on like 13 or 14 or whatever,

807
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,720
I think it's kind of jumped the shark and and even, you know, but like this,

808
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,820
it is over the top, but it feels within the world of the art that it's created.

809
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,460
Like, you know, it doesn't feel for me gratuitous.

810
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:22,360
It just feels that it's visually like, yes, you need to be covered in blood

811
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,940
so the red lights can bounce off of your red skin.

812
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:28,900
And we get this stunning visual and in the whites of your eyes pop.

813
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,400
So we really see that Nicholas Cage crazy.

814
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:37,980
Like that one look he does after he snaps the neck of the one drug dealer.

815
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,180
It's bug eyed. I was like, that is classic Nick Cage.

816
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:42,480
Yeah. Yeah.

817
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,780
How does the saw film have a shark trap yet?

818
00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:49,160
A shark trap? Like, have they like have they done a shark in a saw film?

819
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,820
Have they jumped the shark actually?

820
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,060
Like is the way to get out of the danger to jump over a shark?

821
00:40:55,060 --> 00:40:57,860
Yeah, I hope so. I don't think so.

822
00:40:57,860 --> 00:41:00,700
I don't not yet. OK, I have this rock.

823
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,640
Yeah, I have to ask you about one of my favorite horror sequels.

824
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,900
And I don't. Yes. I don't watch a lot of horror movies.

825
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,440
I've seen it after I've said how many I watch.

826
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,940
I do. I know already what this is going to be.

827
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:14,340
So human centipede, too.

828
00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:17,680
Oh, wow. I've seen the trilogy. Yes.

829
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,680
OK, I have not seen the third one, but you don't need to.

830
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,260
I didn't think I needed to after I watched the second one,

831
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:26,900
because it it truly had peaked at that point.

832
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:31,860
Oh, God. In like super meta and just like

833
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,600
the results seem obvious from the get go.

834
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,440
He's a security guard.

835
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,400
He stapled mouths to buttholes.

836
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,900
People are dying, obviously.

837
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:45,480
Yeah. Yeah.

838
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:49,240
Oh, what a great movie review.

839
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,480
It gives you what you want.

840
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,060
You've gotten a lot better at succinctly like breaking down a film.

841
00:41:56,860 --> 00:42:01,220
But that ending that and like that's again another baby.

842
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:03,100
And like it that's fucked up.

843
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:07,400
Like that's to me. I was like too much, too much.

844
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,740
We really did. But in this, you know, in that universe, there isn't too much.

845
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:14,380
I guess, you know, it's actually now that I think about it,

846
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:17,200
I'm surprised number four hasn't randomly been like.

847
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:21,880
Tease that it's coming because it's been a while since three came out.

848
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,320
Yeah, the people need more human centipede.

849
00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:27,360
Bigger, longer. It's pretty.

850
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:31,060
Oh, God. I mean, a pediar.

851
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:35,160
On some number two, actually, like I do like it as a sequel,

852
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,460
as in how do you do a follow up to the first one?

853
00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:41,100
Like, I think it's an interesting meta storyline.

854
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,340
Involving the security guard,

855
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:47,280
which I think is, you know, pretty smart on his end.

856
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,680
But Tom, it was Tom Six.

857
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Yeah, it just gets twisted from there.

858
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Well, the human centipede movie gets twisted, guys.

859
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,220
Oh, God. You know what number three is about? I don't.

860
00:43:00,980 --> 00:43:03,660
My succinct summary of it.

861
00:43:03,820 --> 00:43:09,060
No, it's in a men's prison at a correctional facility.

862
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:12,440
Oh, yeah. And a warden decides to.

863
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,600
Put the practice.

864
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640
I bet the scenes in the exercise yard were so good.

865
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:24,440
Oh, it's definitely the longest human centipede.

866
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,280
Oh, hell, yeah. The human.

867
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,280
Like, yeah, I think that's what actually I think that might be part of it.

868
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,920
I think he tried to get like 100.

869
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,760
I think that was a goal. OK, guys.

870
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,820
All right. Human centipede for apparently the mindset for this is just

871
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:41,300
my new job. So goodbye.

872
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,700
Hey, electrician.

873
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,100
Hello, centipede.

874
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,860
Even if it doesn't get made, as long as you sell it for real,

875
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:49,140
this is going to be a field of dreams.

876
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:50,680
If you build it, they will come.

877
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
So, guys, I'm glad you're here.

878
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,940
I brought some tape and a safe.

879
00:43:54,940 --> 00:43:57,540
What are you doing now? Yeah.

880
00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:58,940
You heard it here first.

881
00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:03,720
One of our friends went to college with somebody who wrote like Sharknado

882
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:08,280
or like a lot of versus something and just like makes residuals off of that.

883
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,920
All the time. That's incredible.

884
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,400
That's the American dream.

885
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,320
Passing income like that. Absolutely.

886
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,060
Every once every once every year, you just get a check for like, right.

887
00:44:17,060 --> 00:44:19,200
No reason. It's like, well, I did that.

888
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,300
And that's actually one thing I've learned since moving to L.A.

889
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:26,740
is just having to just be less precious about needing to actually write

890
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,480
anything to completion.

891
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,440
You can just sell a tornadoes with sharks.

892
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,780
I don't do anything to completion.

893
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:36,780
That's that's called edging.

894
00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:37,820
You need to get elevator.

895
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:40,980
OK, you all know my beef with Sharknado.

896
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,720
I don't I don't recall your beef with Sharknado is it.

897
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,020
Tara Reed. Like so meteor, a lot.

898
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:52,700
Me meteor meteorologically sound college classes was call

899
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:55,000
was a bad science at the movies.

900
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,140
And it was just about that sounds cool.

901
00:44:57,140 --> 00:44:59,480
We watched art school. I went to art college

902
00:45:01,180 --> 00:45:02,540
where we watched.

903
00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:05,580
We watched if you couldn't tell science fiction films.

904
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:09,280
And our teacher, who was like a geologist, would just pause the movie

905
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,260
and just rant at us about how none of the science made sense.

906
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,820
It was a hoot. Oh, you're going to fucking love the core.

907
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,560
I'm surprised we never watched the core.

908
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,400
Also, you know what?

909
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640
We might have because we didn't actually watch the full movie.

910
00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:25,180
She would just skip around to scenes to yell at us about the science.

911
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,400
But the final year was your college accredited.

912
00:45:29,540 --> 00:45:32,040
Yes. How?

913
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,840
Art school, I can credit something.

914
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:40,380
Yeah. So our final project was to make to pitch our own bad science movie.

915
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:44,860
And New York had just had that hurricane and the city was flooded.

916
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:47,200
So I came up with Gator Kane.

917
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,400
Gator a movie about a hurricane hitting New York,

918
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,900
getting all the gators out and going to town two years later.

919
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:54,900
Sharknado is a thing.

920
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:57,540
I mean, you could probably still push Gator Kane.

921
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,300
You could sell that easy.

922
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,080
Not after this podcast, because someone else is going to do it

923
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,180
before my lazy ass does.

924
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:04,940
Yeah, it's Nick.

925
00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:07,980
No, I'm balls deep in human centipede for.

926
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:15,020
I've been actually working of a script like a quick outline.

927
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,460
As I was talking. Yeah.

928
00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:21,920
Man has podcast decides to centipede goes too far.

929
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,600
That's a good three act. Yeah.

930
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,860
That's what I was signing my NDA for.

931
00:46:29,860 --> 00:46:32,100
Goes too far.

932
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,040
Goes too far. So with Mandy, like what's what's your favorite part from this movie?

933
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Like each of you just go for it.

934
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,680
The chainsaw fights pretty bad ass.

935
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,320
Chainsaw fights really cool.

936
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,560
I just the whole thing is such just a visual treat and it just.

937
00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:51,720
It turns into a cartoon at times.

938
00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:54,660
Yeah, just all of it. Yeah.

939
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,500
That's what I mean. I meant literally a cartoon

940
00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,960
and the animation looks very much like heavy metal.

941
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Mm hmm. I think that's what really gets me is like the structure of it

942
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,680
is my favorite part. I know that's not like a scene.

943
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,240
Still a thing to like about a movie. Yeah. Yeah.

944
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Yeah. The wall of color.

945
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:16,220
Yeah. Just constant like saturation.

946
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:18,580
I'm having a hard time picking one thing that I like about it

947
00:47:18,580 --> 00:47:20,460
because I love all of it.

948
00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:21,980
Yeah, I agree.

949
00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:23,060
Why don't you prime us?

950
00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:24,700
Give us yours and we'll steal it.

951
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:26,900
We'll edit you out and say this was my favorite part.

952
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,760
Good thing we have an individual track for you.

953
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,700
Oh, I think it's it's just so beautiful.

954
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,500
I mean, it just you do have to be in the right mindset.

955
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:41,900
Like if you're looking for something fast and fun and furious, it's not this.

956
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,540
Like you do have to settle into a world.

957
00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:49,280
And again, like we were saying, I think it helps when you set your own atmosphere.

958
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,380
But once you're there, man, oh, my God, like it's like a it's

959
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:59,020
it's almost like you're on a psychedelic with them.

960
00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:04,460
Yeah. And because it's just the visual is such a feast all the time.

961
00:48:04,820 --> 00:48:09,060
And it's just and it just seems so classic of a story, you know,

962
00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:12,360
bad people come in, kill your wife.

963
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,260
It's like Gladiator, but on like shrooms.

964
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:17,560
They want your wife. She laughs at their penis.

965
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,400
Yeah. Murder ensues.

966
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,940
I like they don't even just kill her.

967
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:24,280
They fucking burn her in a sleeping bag.

968
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Yeah. And in front of him. Oh, I love how once she starts laughing

969
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,840
at him, his first reaction is just starting masturbating frantically.

970
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,880
So yes, that's OK.

971
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Well, he's a grower, not a shower.

972
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,120
There's a couple of scenes that really stand out.

973
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,380
He was a shower.

974
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,720
I love Cheddar Goblin.

975
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,420
Cheddar, yes, Cheddar Goblin.

976
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,100
And I love the Jeremiah sound sand song.

977
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,100
It's so fucking mad and it's incredible.

978
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:54,400
Do do do do do do do do.

979
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,340
So your favorite parts are the comedy parts that take you out of the movie,

980
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,780
which is fine, because I think they're there to add a little bit of like

981
00:49:02,780 --> 00:49:07,040
leavening to like give you an emotional break from.

982
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,780
Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's to remind you that it's like

983
00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:12,120
all the violence that's about to come.

984
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,720
It's OK. Well, even beyond that, it's a real comedy.

985
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,100
There's there's like snapshots of violence that stand out, too.

986
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,960
It's like the dude, the fucking mouth breathing window rolling up and down.

987
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,040
Oh, my God. Taking the axe to the dome.

988
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,600
Like the visual of that is really like impressive.

989
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Like I love that his death is just as funny as his life.

990
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:36,240
Like I love him just playing with the windows

991
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:40,320
and like the obvious irritation that Brother Swan has with it all.

992
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:45,620
And then like when he's dying, he's just like drying off his car after he washes it.

993
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:48,920
And then he gets like a non fight.

994
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,560
Yeah, it's just the axe comes out of the air and kills him.

995
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,060
And that's it. That's all inherited.

996
00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:57,860
Yep. I love it. I love all of it. I can't.

997
00:49:57,860 --> 00:50:01,000
Yeah, I think my favorite part might be the allowances

998
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,660
for the supernatural in this world. Yeah.

999
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,640
Yeah. Of the little demon ocarina.

1000
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,940
I love the horn of a brexus.

1001
00:50:10,940 --> 00:50:12,700
Yeah. Ocarina of Grime.

1002
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:15,220
Oh, all right. That's pretty good.

1003
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:18,240
The cool little like dagger.

1004
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:21,920
And I love that these supernatural like artifacts

1005
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,680
have a cool strobing green light when you present them.

1006
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Yes. It's I mean, it's so like weird.

1007
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,520
So much attention to detail.

1008
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,300
Yeah. But it's like this is part of the world.

1009
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,900
It's like, did you bring the horn of a brexus?

1010
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:39,300
Oh, I did bring the horn of a brexus.

1011
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:42,940
Also, I also love a galactic shout out shout out in anything.

1012
00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:47,180
Oh, yeah. So in the again, in the matrix of a good movie,

1013
00:50:47,180 --> 00:50:50,060
good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.

1014
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,280
Where do you slot Mandy and Nick Cage?

1015
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,220
Good movie. Good.

1016
00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:58,000
Nicholas Cage. Great movie.

1017
00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:01,660
Even. Yeah, I'm right there with you.

1018
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:05,560
Like his performance in this is he doesn't say a lot,

1019
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,500
but he does a lot with that.

1020
00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:12,040
Him chugging bathroom vodka in his tighty whitey's

1021
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,680
and that awesome tiger shirt.

1022
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,640
Yeah. His emotions are like out there.

1023
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,380
I got permission to have a life size replica of the axe

1024
00:51:20,380 --> 00:51:23,420
to put above my Nicholas Cage blu ray collection.

1025
00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:26,160
So we're it's only three hundred dollars.

1026
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,020
So oh, that's nothing.

1027
00:51:28,020 --> 00:51:31,100
I know. So I looked it up immediately.

1028
00:51:31,420 --> 00:51:34,300
Oh, my God. Yes. Get it. I support that.

1029
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Nick and I have discussed at the end of this getting

1030
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,640
we have to get like commemorative tattoos from something

1031
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Nick Cage related, and I think I'm going to get the axe.

1032
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:49,740
Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm still pushing the fake teeth from Vampire's Kiss.

1033
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:51,780
That's a great one. That's also really good.

1034
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:53,640
All right. So, Nick, what do you think?

1035
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,660
I think this is an outstanding movie and a terrific performance.

1036
00:51:59,020 --> 00:52:02,660
I think everything that he brings

1037
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,720
in lieu of like a vocal performance, like all of his just like

1038
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:12,860
super on point reactions and emotions are just they blow me away.

1039
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,020
Like the way he connected, like Panos must have done

1040
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:22,460
just a terrific job communicating with Cage about what he wanted

1041
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:26,360
the role to be because it just gets me.

1042
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,400
It's terrific.

1043
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,600
Even the scenes that are like purely Nicholas Cage, like in the car

1044
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,780
when he's covered in gore and he's just like staring over.

1045
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:40,140
And it's like, that's do you think it's the acid scene from?

1046
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,580
I'm very away to massive talent is a little link to that.

1047
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:46,260
The back and forth.

1048
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:48,520
It's a very specific shot. I'd like to think it is.

1049
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,820
I like, oh, just the camera shot. Yeah.

1050
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,620
Yeah, I could see that.

1051
00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:58,760
I could see it also as like there's only so many ways

1052
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,440
to film an interaction between two people in the front of a car.

1053
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,040
That's fair. We've seen Drive Angry. Yeah.

1054
00:53:05,540 --> 00:53:08,040
OK, so I've turned the corner on this movie overall.

1055
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,920
I do think that it is probably a great, great.

1056
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:12,920
I do think that I don't like it.

1057
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,860
There is fine. Yeah.

1058
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:20,060
Like, I don't think it's for me, but I do respect it for the art of it,

1059
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,360
for the insanity of it, for the performance of it.

1060
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:27,960
How did you view it sitting alone in a chair in my living room

1061
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:33,840
with the lights on on a laptop? So Peter made every choice.

1062
00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:36,940
I have watched it in a more cinematic way before.

1063
00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:40,220
The first time I watched it was a little more cinematic and it still didn't

1064
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,120
tickle me. But you know, fair, fair.

1065
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,080
That's a good point, though.

1066
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,320
I mean, I think so part of the experience for me in this round

1067
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,160
to that we're in, we're in 32 down to 16.

1068
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:55,800
Watching it with people, watching movies with people

1069
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,660
enhances my experience of it.

1070
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:01,840
I think that I gain more from having that live interaction

1071
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,680
of laughing at some absurdist shit in Mom and Dad or

1072
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:11,820
marveling at a visual freeze frame from Mandy, you know, that it's

1073
00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:14,340
much more fun for me to watch it with someone.

1074
00:54:14,620 --> 00:54:18,420
So next time we'll provide a film party for you.

1075
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,360
And that's a beautiful pitch for why we should go to the theaters.

1076
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:28,120
I like to read Peter, if you were lonely, you can just tell us.

1077
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,160
You don't have to like, oh, it took me 43 episodes to say it.

1078
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,160
I'm lonely.

1079
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,200
You know, to pretend you don't like good movies.

1080
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:40,580
I don't know if I get this one, guys.

1081
00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:42,780
Can you just come over and like with me?

1082
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:46,340
Yeah, you had your choice.

1083
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:49,720
So you had a child. OK, so I am part of the sad lads.

1084
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:54,960
I sort of asked and answered, but, you know, one movie

1085
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,320
advances in our bracket ology style.

1086
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,860
One movie must fall.

1087
00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:03,040
So Brian, as the guest, you get to go first, but your opinion doesn't matter.

1088
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,160
So you can say whatever the fuck you want.

1089
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,780
Well, I do think in this instance, I will probably

1090
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:13,280
end up agreeing with the hosts and the producer.

1091
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,520
I think it's Mandy that should move on.

1092
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,360
But I'm glad to know that mom and dad made it this far

1093
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,900
because it is definitely above the halfway mark of.

1094
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
I would agree with that.

1095
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,060
It's an opinion outside of like.

1096
00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:35,440
Adaptation, I can't think of outside of adaptation.

1097
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,600
I can't think of anything that hasn't gone past the first round

1098
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,540
that I would have like put this behind Primal.

1099
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:42,780
No, Primal so good.

1100
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:44,680
No, you're you're sleeping on Primal.

1101
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,620
I think you watched it on the wrong day.

1102
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,520
I watched it twice in both times.

1103
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,920
I could not.

1104
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,020
That was back when you were still drinking, though.

1105
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:52,720
It's fair.

1106
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,320
You got to watch it now when you can actually enjoy it.

1107
00:55:55,820 --> 00:55:57,500
I said I'd sit down and watch it with you.

1108
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,100
I know it's going to be good.

1109
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:01,960
I'm planning the whole event.

1110
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,100
There's going to be like sparkling cider

1111
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:10,240
and rose petals and a staple gun.

1112
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,880
Yeah. And some duct tape.

1113
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:12,880
Just bring your butthole.

1114
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,780
Yeah, that's all you got to bring.

1115
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:17,480
The prologue to human time.

1116
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,380
Before.

1117
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:23,720
So yeah, Mandy, I think I'm I'm full Mandy.

1118
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,360
Yeah, I've got a full Mandy right now.

1119
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:28,260
Well, Mandy.

1120
00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:31,320
Yeah, so next episode, we've got

1121
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Conair and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance

1122
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,200
and special guest Chris Cofell of film school rejects.

1123
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200
So that'll be a fun one. Fun.

1124
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Yeah. Good times.

1125
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,240
Brian, thank you for being here.

1126
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,240
Yeah, this is really nice.

1127
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,840
Have you? Yeah, this is great.

1128
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,080
If you are interested in being on the slicks, teen,

1129
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,980
which is the next part of the bracket, let us know.

1130
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:58,640
Obviously, it only gets sexier from here.

1131
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,420
Yes, I love it.

1132
00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:03,780
Oh, did we settle on final four?

1133
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:06,460
Scum? Yeah. Yeah. OK.

1134
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,060
And then I don't know what the championship is going to be.

1135
00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:12,200
And then just boring ass normal sex.

1136
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Missionary face to face, looking at each other and really feeling it.

1137
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:20,360
Oh, God. Lights on.

1138
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,840
It's going to be a weird blow job from Joe.

1139
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,880
What's your favorite color? OK.

1140
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,980
I gotta go.

1141
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:32,440
Yeah, Brian, anything that you want to promote pitch.

1142
00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:33,540
Shout out.

1143
00:57:33,540 --> 00:57:38,380
I'm in this weird karaoke competition thing, but it's karaoke knockout.

1144
00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:42,560
I thought I was signing up for literally a one night type of thing.

1145
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,200
Turns out it's a two month engagement.

1146
00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:47,700
And still just one paycheck.

1147
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:48,600
Oh, yeah.

1148
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,860
And you have to make it through all these rounds.

1149
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,900
And it's basically a giant popularity contest.

1150
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:58,180
But I've been very fortunate to have good friends and good supporters

1151
00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:01,680
have gotten me through what I believe will be this first major cut

1152
00:58:02,140 --> 00:58:03,680
through the group round.

1153
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,120
I mean, we've gone to the semifinals, but all of the votes reset.

1154
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,920
So but so what does it get me?

1155
00:58:10,220 --> 00:58:11,820
Ten thousand dollars.

1156
00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:15,260
If I make it all the way to the end, I sing in L.A.

1157
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,400
for some karaoke.

1158
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,640
And I will use that money to film a documentary in South Korea

1159
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,440
with two of my friends who the three of us were Korean adoptees.

1160
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,600
And coincidentally, this year's

1161
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,420
karaoke competition is benefiting an adoption organization.

1162
00:58:34,420 --> 00:58:35,940
Help us adopt.org.

1163
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:40,020
So it seems the universe is putting everything in alignment for me.

1164
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,660
It also feels that this is my year of reality competition winning.

1165
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,620
So I think.

1166
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:51,900
It's just going to happen, you know, manifest that the secret.

1167
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:55,060
So karaoke knockout dot org

1168
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:01,040
or slash Brian hyphen Kim hyphen McCormick.

1169
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,580
I think that's how you get to me.

1170
00:59:02,580 --> 00:59:03,840
I'm not sure.

1171
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,720
Peter, if I didn't, I apologize.

1172
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,140
But if you know, we'll figure it out.

1173
00:59:08,140 --> 00:59:10,020
Yes, thank you. I appreciate it.

1174
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:11,620
But yeah, that's the pitch.

1175
00:59:11,620 --> 00:59:14,660
Just yeah, just realized Brian and I probably Brian

1176
00:59:14,660 --> 00:59:17,320
and I would have survived mom and dad.

1177
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,420
Oh, yeah, there you go.

1178
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:19,800
Oh, I would have definitely.

1179
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,320
Unless Jackie Chan, this you might have to cut, but I don't know.

1180
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:26,660
Jackie Chan is potentially my father.

1181
00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:30,000
So, you know, he I don't know that I'd want him trying to come

1182
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,600
off after and try to kill me.

1183
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,540
But hold on.

1184
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:35,240
Is that something your mom told you like growing up?

1185
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,340
Like Jackie Chan was your father?

1186
00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:40,640
A long story made short.

1187
00:59:41,380 --> 00:59:43,320
Take as much time as you want on this.

1188
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Oh, great.

1189
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,020
Well, I I I was a Korean adoptee.

1190
00:59:48,020 --> 00:59:49,560
I came out of Seoul.

1191
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,100
I came here at three months old and my whole life.

1192
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,400
I just associated being Korean.

1193
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,300
But many, many, many people have said that I look like Jackie Chan,

1194
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:01,240
including white, Asian, all people.

1195
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,740
I've been chased down streets.

1196
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:04,540
I've been chased at casinos.

1197
01:00:04,540 --> 01:00:06,040
I've been asked for autographs.

1198
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,480
I've been asked to take pictures.

1199
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,880
It's just been there my whole life.

1200
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,220
And then I was working as an accountant in New York

1201
01:00:12,220 --> 01:00:14,340
as one of my survival jobs.

1202
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:18,880
And in that pool was a Chinese woman who told me that Jackie Chan

1203
01:00:18,980 --> 01:00:23,020
had been like in love with the South Korean woman for like almost a decade.

1204
01:00:23,420 --> 01:00:27,860
But felt like he couldn't marry her because he wasn't.

1205
01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:30,060
You know, they were living in two different countries.

1206
01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:31,700
He was poor. He wasn't famous yet.

1207
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:37,100
So and it was like right around the same time that I was magically born.

1208
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,640
And then so he wrote a memoir and he

1209
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,680
I was going to wait for his autograph at the Barnes and Noble in Union Square.

1210
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,920
And I was going to grab his water bottle and I was going to run out the store.

1211
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,780
Problem is with that store, though, is this book signing is up on like the third floor

1212
01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,960
and the only way to do it is escalators.

1213
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,120
You got to Jackie Chan your way out of. Yeah, Jackie.

1214
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,820
I would have jacked my way out of it.

1215
01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:05,900
So the problem is, then you got Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan and after you.

1216
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:07,360
Oh, yeah. God, right.

1217
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,740
And then you got him coming.

1218
01:01:08,740 --> 01:01:13,300
But he ended up canceling his session because I believe his wife

1219
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:17,400
found out about all of the women he slept with through the memoir.

1220
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,280
I don't think he privy to that.

1221
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,480
At least that's what my brain reminds me.

1222
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,380
Who am I forgetting to tell about all the illicit affairs?

1223
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:29,060
Well, it didn't have to be affairs.

1224
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:30,920
I mean, it could have been before. Right.

1225
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,220
Before marriage. That's true. That's true.

1226
01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:37,260
Who marries like an international film star and says

1227
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,400
he probably kept it in his pants.

1228
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,440
But and then I did a DNA test and it came back that I have

1229
01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:51,040
like 40 something Korean, 30 something Chinese.

1230
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,580
And the rest is Japanese.

1231
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,220
You hear that, Jackie Chan? Right. It's possible.

1232
01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:59,320
But so, yeah, that's the story about my potentially famous.

1233
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,780
I fucking love that. That is a terrific story.

1234
01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,760
That was better than my

1235
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,500
lazy attempt at making another dead parent joke. Yeah.

1236
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:09,360
So thank you for that.

1237
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,600
Yeah, you can. You're welcome.

1238
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,400
You can beat that dead horse the day you die.

1239
01:02:14,540 --> 01:02:15,660
Terrible.

1240
01:02:16,060 --> 01:02:17,340
That's a good episode.

1241
01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:18,040
I enjoyed myself.

1242
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,280
Well, I will definitely vote for you so long as you do not sing sweet Caroline.

1243
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:25,320
The moment you sing sweet Caroline, votes are out the door.

1244
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,160
Great. I will not. Thank you.

1245
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,160
So no worries on that.

1246
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,460
I will only vote for you if you sing sweet Caroline.

1247
01:02:30,460 --> 01:02:32,800
So it's a net neutral. You still got my vote.

1248
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,860
OK, thank you. There we go. Plus one.

1249
01:02:35,860 --> 01:02:37,500
There we go. All right.

1250
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,180
Well, thank you all for listening, Brian.

1251
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:40,600
Thank you for being here.

1252
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,540
Thanks for having me.

1253
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:42,940
You guys can find us on social media.

1254
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:45,540
Cage match pod cage underscore match underscore pod.

1255
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,140
You'll find us one way or the other.

1256
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:50,240
You can. Has Nick found you yet?

1257
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,980
He's right here. No.

1258
01:02:51,980 --> 01:02:53,980
Nick, the Nicholas.

1259
01:02:53,980 --> 01:02:56,260
Oh, sorry. Yeah.

1260
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:57,860
He's got better things to do.

1261
01:02:57,860 --> 01:03:02,360
No, he he doesn't seem to really do a lot of interaction with online

1262
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:04,960
with his anything like brand.

1263
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,000
That's unfortunate. It is.

1264
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,860
It's kind of too bad.

1265
01:03:06,860 --> 01:03:08,900
I mean, it'd be really fun to be able to play into that.

1266
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:12,340
No, we're just going to continue trying to stalk him through bars

1267
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:13,640
and stuff we know he goes to.

1268
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,100
Yeah, exactly.

1269
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:17,440
We're going to find him. Yeah.

1270
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,340
I believe in you.

1271
01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:22,580
Yeah. If you want to help fuel our Nick Cage meeting adventures,

1272
01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:24,940
we are on Patreon at Cage match.

1273
01:03:24,940 --> 01:03:26,780
Thank you to our current supporters,

1274
01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:30,820
Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam and our cage dancers,

1275
01:03:30,820 --> 01:03:33,080
Ira, John Freeman, Lance and Nathan.

1276
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,920
We really appreciate you guys.

1277
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,660
And we do have a signal chat now for the cage dancers.

1278
01:03:39,660 --> 01:03:41,800
We got to just move to this part.

1279
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,760
Everybody discards. We should discord.

1280
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,700
We'll discord discord.

1281
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:49,640
I do want to just also keep this kind of meta narrative going

1282
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,940
where last time I shouted out Nathan for joining that exclusive club

1283
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:56,580
of friends who text me things I say on my own podcast.

1284
01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:59,020
And this week I get a text from Nathan.

1285
01:03:59,020 --> 01:04:02,120
Sean, Nathan has joined the exclusive club of someone

1286
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,620
who randomly messaged me quotes from our podcast.

1287
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,120
So, yeah, double dip on that one, Nathan.

1288
01:04:09,020 --> 01:04:11,320
Love you, buddy. Bye bye.

1289
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,320
Oh, my.

1290
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,000
Good Galactus work.

1291
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,280
I love Galactus big war guy.

1292
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,940
Yeah, actually.

1293
01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:30,840
Who were you describing?

1294
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,740
Were you describing for John? Yeah.

1295
01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:35,740
OK. Yeah. Last episode, we were trying to explain for to everyone.

1296
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,180
Brian, are you familiar with war?

1297
01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:41,520
Uh, people being eaten.

1298
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,780
Yeah. But eaten whole is the big part of it.

1299
01:04:43,780 --> 01:04:46,220
Eating whole. Oh, I didn't know there was that specification.

1300
01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:49,220
Which makes it entirely impossible. So. Yeah.

1301
01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:53,160
It's a really dumb fetish.

1302
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,700
That's going to be the twist at the end of Human Centipede four.

1303
01:04:57,260 --> 01:05:00,640
The ass eats everybody else. Human Centipede four.

1304
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:06,080
The most ass eating you can legally put in a rated NC 17 movie.

1305
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,240
I think they're going to draw a line with how much ass eating I put in this movie.

1306
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,320
You're going to have to have debates with them and they're like,

1307
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,780
take one ass eating out. Just one.

1308
01:05:15,580 --> 01:05:17,460
You're like, no, it's my art.

1309
01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:18,420
I can't do it.

1310
01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:21,020
Each and every one of them is important to my story.

1311
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,660
That's right.

1312
01:05:22,660 --> 01:05:25,760
This is my lived experience.

1313
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,220
You are a millennial.

1314
01:05:27,220 --> 01:05:37,240
You will not silence me.