Oh, God. Oh, my God.
Yes. Hey, Nick, we kind of like matching or like similar themed shirts today.
You know, we're space dudes. Right.
This is planned. No, no.
Well, if it were planned, I would have.
No, I probably wouldn't have done it anyway.
I don't know. You showed up with a turtleneck that one time.
That's true. I did do that. Yeah.
It was a inadvertent turtleneck party.
Oh, wow. I don't think it was inadvertent.
No, it was vertant. You're right.
Yeah. It was just at Sean's expense.
Yeah. I don't really see how it's at my expense.
I like turtlenecks.
In fact, I went pulling on after you guys got here. That's true.
It was a slow burn, though.
Yeah. Everyone just sort of slowly showed up with turtlenecks
to this cocktail party that Sean was throwing.
And then when Nick showed up, I'm like, you did this.
Fantastic.
Weird prank. Turtlenecks and chains.
Good. Yeah. Good. So, yeah, we don't probably have to do too much.
You know, getting to know you stuff.
I say whatever the fuck I want to say.
Fantastic. That's my brand.
Fine. Yeah. Great. But stuff.
Yeah. But stuff only.
This is actually just my agenda for the night.
It's just only here for the butt stuff today.
I mean, we're going to talk. Try not to disappoint.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know how much butt stuff was going on in there,
but definitely that one guy was definitely murdered by but stuff.
It was definitely. Yeah, there was murder by that stuff.
Yes, that's true. That's true.
A butt got real fucked.
They got stuffed.
It was butt stuffed.
Ah, I just don't want to talk about mom and dad.
I was do we just roll into it?
Generally speaking, we trip ourselves over things until we suddenly get started.
Oh, I usually usually by Sean making a good attempt at a segue.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm glad you admit it. Yeah.
I want to do it now. Good.
Yeah, good. Then we are going to start. Good. Thanks.
Welcome back to Cajamatch,
going around about Nicholas Cage.
I'm your host, Sean, here with my cohost.
I'm Nick and our producer, Peter. Hello.
And special guest this week.
Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself and tell the people what it is you do?
My name is Brian Kim McCormick, and I'm an actor
and produce all the things that you do in entertainment.
So I've written, I've directed, I've edited, I've raised money.
So jack of all trades, I guess, or starving artists.
No, I'm not starving.
So I'll just I'll just stick with artists.
So I managed to get that far. So.
Were you starving at one point?
No, no, I've been pretty blessed, actually.
I went to school to be a doctor or criminal profiler for the CIA
and then pivoted into musical theater
because that's what you do.
And very actually, they were they just, you know, well, actually,
you know, now they're very in their old age.
All they care about is like, oh, we get to see you in things or this.
You know, they're very popular in their retirement community
because they can brag about me.
So I'm glad I could bring that to them.
But no, I I was a major hustler in my 20s.
And so I was acting at night and then overnight working in like a hospital.
And then I was also a semi pro gambler for a large period of time.
We've had a weird amount of those on the show.
Two is a weird amount. Yeah. Yeah.
When talking about Nicholas Cage.
You got to meet our Atlantic City boys. Yeah.
Oh, hey, when my 10 years in New York,
I spent a fair amount of time in Atlantic City.
I love AC. You might know them already.
What was your game of choice?
I am a Texas Holden player.
OK, no one ever says back around.
I'm not, but I'd be willing to learn.
You know, it's just it.
A lot of these games cost a lot of money to to learn.
So I paid my dues, I think, in poker with learning and losing money.
And I still lose money, but I don't think as badly anymore.
I do manage to make a little so.
I think back around pretty easy, isn't it?
Like two cards, whoever is closest to nine.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then you make money or lose money.
Well, if it's at a casino, chances are they they're going to be losing money.
So, Brian, well, Sean is going and getting his dog for you.
Yes.
What is your relationship to our lovely Nicholas Cage?
Oh, I guess a fan for sure.
I mean, he has quite the career.
And, you know, I think these two movies are great.
Example of what I think he.
Has evolved into, you know, I mean,
I think my first real introduction to him was probably Raising Arizona.
And then maybe again with like Conair and then just popping up everywhere.
And then, you know, it never like I guess I was never a super fan.
I'll say that. Like I enjoy his movies.
I enjoy his work, but I'm never necessarily seeking out a Nicholas Cage movie.
Although now he's pivoted into this weird
horror action thriller side of his career.
And that's horror is my favorite genre.
So that is I you know, if he's in a horror something, I will watch it.
I can't imagine him doing much of like a romantic comedy that I would be like,
yes, I need to see Nicholas Cage woo somebody, but kill somebody.
Yes, we need more romantic comedies with 60 year old men in them.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Bring back Rosie Perez. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
He did kind of have that every man like romantic lead for a minute.
Yeah. Yeah.
But speaking of the horror stuff, he's got a new movie coming out soon.
Arcadian. And it's yes.
So far, like rating pretty well, like people dig it.
So that's that's awesome.
I'm excited to get a chance to go see that at some point soon.
So we'll have some fresh content for everyone.
Yeah. This old stage.
Twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Get fucked.
These are classic, though.
I mean, I don't I enjoy mom and dad, actually.
It's for well, most of it.
Let's do it. Is your beef with it, the ending or lack thereof?
Sure. I mean, here's here's my for both of them.
Honestly, I'll put them in like a little lowercase H horror.
I think they do fall in the category of the greater sphere of it,
but I wouldn't necessarily class call it classic by any means.
Mandy, a little bit more so, but we'll we'll get into that.
But I think for me, the biggest pet peeve I have with mom and dad
is that it's only an hour and 20 minutes, but it feels like an hour 45.
And it ramps up really well.
Like, I love the premise.
I mean, who, you know, it really builds nicely.
But as soon as we start focusing on the main family,
all the stakes are gone because the kids are never really in danger.
And unless you're the black kid.
Well, OK, so well, I was going to bring that up.
It's like the the keeping true to horror, like the worst things
were happening to the minorities in the movie.
But I'm but it kids also like the little boy I for also the daughter
for being such kind of a bitchy teenager like who knew it all.
She sure as hell didn't know what the hell was going on when kind of the signs
were, you know, there was enough information for her to piece together
that her parents are crazy.
She needs to get her ass into her house, rip her brother out of the house
and get the fuck out of there.
But now she's like, I'm going to talk to you under the bed
and we're going to sit like you don't got time for that.
And then he just ruins everything because he's like, mom, dad, are you?
Is it really you? So all of those pet peeves.
But, you know, but the but, you know, getting up into it,
it there was it started out as a very promising movie, I think.
It's a fine time for all those kids who wanted a new dad
to just get out and get a new dad.
It'd be fine because old dad wants to kill you.
Yeah, new dad. Right. Right.
They're probably fucking chill as hell with you.
Yeah, you don't even have blackmail old dad to get out of that relationship.
You can just leave.
You just swap. I mean, yeah.
Little family swap action. Exactly.
And then they started actually like crossing their own rules
in their world building that that was getting like
how much violence they were showing to the black kid.
Like when he first got home, either he was drunk and all the things
and he just hates black people and definitely not him to be his daughter's boyfriend.
Or he's already breaking the rule for trying to knock him unconscious
as a priority instead of going after his daughter.
God, that big fucking meat hand.
Yeah. Bounces his head off the ground.
That was all. Yeah.
I remember Peter and I watched this last night and going back into it,
I was just like, you know, I really wanted this movie to go a bit harder
with the violence. And then, yeah, when that scene happens, I'm like, no, never mind.
This movie does go kind of hard at times.
My concern with the violence in this is that every time they have a good
like action scene or like something like really tense
or building is happening, they cut away to some like
fucking yogurt story 10 years ago.
And it's like, come on, just fucking stay with the movie. Yeah.
I didn't need to know that Josh hit a fucking dead bird
in his dad's T-bird or whatever.
Well, also those weird flashbacks, I think they could have worked
if they would have like put them in relevant points in the story.
Agreed. Like when the kid like runs into the car
didn't like run away from his dad. Do it then.
Why the fuck did the kid start the car and then just get out?
I wondered that too.
Because fucking Josh. God damn it.
So many think again, because he's a dumb kid.
He's the one who was like, oh, they must be like it wasn't for his sister.
He would undo their their their
restraints at the end of the movie.
And do what do we think happened?
I mean, they have to just rot.
They dragged the parents into the basement, tied them up,
and then sat there waiting for them to wake up when they could have just left.
Or call the police because the cops weren't going to kill you. Yeah.
Yeah, literally no one else is going to kill you.
Like, that's it. Yeah.
It's those two fuckers. A minority. Well, right. Yeah.
I mean, the cards were stacked against him anyway. Yeah.
Why was that lady so concerned with the kid leaving the PSA tease?
Like, you got more time.
This is really going to affect your life.
It's like, no, it's the fucking PSA tease.
Right. And that's the thing, actually, I felt bad about.
I felt weird about too, is that, you know, he's trying to be set up
as this character who's the smart one.
He texts, you know, I crushed this test.
And then what did he say?
He said there was some word he used and I was like, I don't think that's a real word.
I think if you put that on the piece that you would have failed,
I think it was like hugest or something.
He used some huger.
He used some weird word.
And then again, if he's going to be the brains of the like the show, the movie,
then like it seemed he was only literally there to be the punching bag.
Like any time there needed to be violence instead of hitting the daughter,
they were like, let's just hit the black man.
Which in 2017 maybe didn't sit as bad as now.
It's like, oh, yeah, that's a little weird.
A little bit worse now. We're still figuring things out.
Yeah. Right. Exactly.
Punch your daughter. It's fine.
But I think the I think the most horrific scene in the movie, though,
was after the sister gives birth and whether or not she was going to kill that baby.
And that was the line where I was like, where is this movie?
Is it going to cross it?
Is it going to go there and be really fucked up?
Or is it going to stay?
Opportunity to bite its head off.
I just go Ozzy Osborne on it and just like write it in.
I do want to say, though, Nick, you did bring up a good point about
him being able to hit his daughter's movie.
She did try and light him on fire.
True. So by our own rules, he gets one punch.
Yeah, one punch. So that's fair.
For your context, Brian, we with the Wicker Man,
we decided that if someone is trying to light you on fire,
then you can gender, you can punch them no matter what.
All right. There.
She wants to punch.
But even that fire, like, and correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe I maybe I don't know how gas works enough.
But based on the way and how much gas had filled that basement
after it was lit, I think it would be a much bigger explosion
and also have gone back through the hose and like wherever the main source
and just, you know, that was like a gentle
like fart lit on fire and blew him across the room.
We want to get technical.
Honestly, it probably would not have ignited.
Oh, it's a very specific like you've got a backdraft situation
where the door is introducing oxygen.
Yeah. And so you do have the gas fuel.
OK. Oxygen.
Because I've been watching a lot of Mythbusters.
I burn a lot of things and like stoichiometry is a thing.
Well, it is convenient that he like struck the matches
and then just held the door open and then, you know,
allowed the matches to be able to catch nicely.
The idea of that trap, though, that was a pretty cool.
It was a good trap. Yeah.
It was her best idea of the entire movie.
She finally proved her worth.
This movie needed to home alone a bit harder.
Yes. And that would have been great.
A little bit of like comedy in it, like put the parents to the ringers.
That would have been fun.
I think this movie just had like three ideas and that's like where they left it.
It's like, oh, man, we'll have parents attacking children.
OK, I like it. And at one point, we're going to have like a sawzall
and we'll say it's all like, OK, you're a new homeowner.
You just discovered this tool. Yeah. Write it into the movie.
That's fine. And we'll punch a black kid.
OK, we got ourselves a film. Let's green light this.
This is terrible.
I mean, it is from the guy who made Crank.
Like it does feel like from the guy who made feels like also
a ghostwriter, Spirit of Von Johnson and Spirit of Von Johnson.
You're right. A movie that I think fucking rules.
Yes. Yeah.
So this is really like a low point in that director's career.
Yeah. I mean, it was entertaining.
I had fun up till maybe like the last 20 minutes.
I do love the directors like frenetic, like energy
when it comes to action and chasing, like that's all fun to watch.
And like the payoff of the grandparents coming over is.
Yeah, yeah, that is.
That was a fun, delightful, stupid.
That's the entire movie.
My favorite part of the movie is just the old man
getting like weird war story ish over like stabbing his kid.
But that is another situation where the rules are broken
because the mother-in-law tries to kill Kendall.
Kendall. Exactly.
That's a stripper name.
Unless this is just how she is.
And she's always hated Kendall and like, you're not good enough for my son.
You whore that I'm trying to kill my that I'm trying to kill Brent.
Yeah. Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Brent, what a terrible name.
Brent is a shitty name.
Brent and can Brent and Kendall.
Have you known many Brent's?
I have known three Brent's actually, which is really maybe one.
Many brands. I think I know too.
I have a friend named Brett who everyone thinks is named Brent.
I would change my fucking name if I was named Brett
and everyone called me Brent.
That's horrible.
Like both are bad names.
Sorry, Brett. Brett doesn't listen to this. Good.
No, Brett's listen to this.
This is Brett free.
Brett Airwaves.
I mean, I grew up in Minnesota, so we were against the Brett.
All the. Yeah, we're we're calling it now.
We're an anti Brett podcast.
Anti Brett, anti Brent.
If it sounds like you play lacrosse, get the fuck out of here.
We're not into this.
You're out of here, Mackenzie.
That applies to male Mackenzie's, male Kenzie's.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah, Kenzie.
Clarification.
Lady Mackenzie's can listen if they like.
Yeah, that's fine. Lady Lacrosse.
You're cool. Yeah.
You can listen to this podcast, but you won't.
That does fit my type.
My feeling on this movie is that it was way more fun than it deserves to be.
It is not a good movie, but it is kind of a delight.
I think that's a credit to your actors in it.
Like without Nicholas or even her.
I mean, they were both great together.
I would have watched them and could have cared less about the kids.
I mean, if they wanted to kill the kids from the start and just deal with,
oh, we just killed our kids. Now, what do we do?
That would have been OK to me, too.
Was it weird to anyone else that like they never established him
as being like a great father?
They always establish him as being kind of unhinged.
So yeah, the weird event doesn't seem to matter.
It's just like he kind of woke up one day and was like,
I'm going to go with the flow today.
Let's see what let's see what the people are doing.
Yeah. Oh, we're killing kids today.
Nice. I've been thinking about this.
Maybe I could knock off one or two more that are just not on the list.
Where do you think the signal started?
Who sent who's attacking us?
I just like the fact that that's a part of it is just upsetting to me.
I'm like, why is that even there?
Just have them start killing people.
I just needed this movie to have like two more months in the writing room.
This needed to be developed so much more for me.
Like I watch it and I'm just like, why is that happening?
Why is that happening?
There's not even like an attempt at it.
This movie bothers me.
And I had to review or revisit like why it went forward.
And it's because it was going up against Next or something.
Yeah, it was next.
No amount of exploding.
Jessica Beals would say of next.
I don't know.
Now that I've watched Mom and Dad again, I kind of think I should have gone back in time.
No, no. This is where this is worth talking about.
It's enjoyable.
It's a struggle for me,
but it's not horror enough or comedy enough for me.
True. I think is my problem.
It's like everything just falls a little short.
There's moments I enjoyed for sure.
I liked the grandparents.
I liked when the mom gave birth
and then she stands up and the umbilical cords just dragging on. Yeah.
Yeah, that was gnarly. That was pretty gnarly.
I'm sad they didn't bite the umbilical cord to get it away fast enough.
Like, oh, but I think I just want more biting in this.
There's a couple bites.
There was a there was some biting because the daughter bites Kendall.
Yeah, which was a gunshot wound, which damn.
I did. I did appreciate the use of a hanger as a weapon by the mom.
Yeah, that was pretty how she got it through his cheek.
That's impressive.
And nobody tried to just restrain the hanger arm.
It's like, no, just hold the closet.
Why didn't they wrap the fucking closet door shut?
Exactly. There was a thing right there on the handle.
And and it's just like that's another example of dumb kids.
Like kids are the worst.
We should kill them. The whole movie.
These kids, they've been trying to kill you.
And now you're just going to like chill out
in this while she's behind this closet where she's already proven
that she's like close to breaking out and we're just going to laugh about it.
Like you deserve the hanger then that that she that's what you get.
You hear that, fetuses?
I hope my ex-girlfriend's new girlfriend keeps listening to this podcast.
But I think I also enjoy this
because I've just seen a string of bad horror movies in theaters.
And so it's just like this is at least a better than them.
Even with all of its flaws.
Without getting into it too much for Mandy, I do appreciate that.
Both these movies are kind of like attempts at schlocky,
like 70s, 80 B movies with a budget and with Nicolas Cage.
Yeah. Well, mom and dad probably didn't even have that huge of a budget.
I had enough of a budget for Nicolas Cage. Sure.
But it was also like the beginning of him coming back.
So he probably wasn't bringing in more than a couple of mills.
They just rented a house and like they got an Airbnb for a weekend.
Right. And they're like, hey, guys, check it out.
I slapped together this script and that house probably was set up
that way, too, with all the dumb fucking stuff on the walls.
Oh, yeah. You didn't even have to do any set dressing.
That's suburbia to a T.
From a visual perspective, like what do you think of this movie overall?
I think editing saved it.
And but I also love I like the color palette that they use in it.
And I like a little bit of washed out suburban look.
Yeah. Suburban lighting.
Everything is just a little bit soft.
And I think it's a good contrast to Mandy in the sense that like
Mandy is a visual art piece.
And this is like a movie like this is something you can watch at home.
Mandy is something that was better in the theater or in a nice,
like big screen, complete darkness.
Just be immersed in that world.
But mom and dad could just, you know, you could have commercial breaks on TBS
and be cooking dinner and you'd catch everything important.
Yeah, it's pretty well put.
So you watch it. OK, this is a slight off shoot.
You watch a lot of horror movies.
What would you say is one horror movie slightly better
and one horror movie slightly worse than this?
What are its neighbors?
OK, that's a great question.
Wow. OK, I think something similar in vain,
but kind of gives you like the violence that you want.
And it was that horror movie that came out.
And I apologize, I don't remember the name.
Mayhem. Stephen Youn is in it.
It's the office. They I think Blumhouse produced it.
Every employee has to like kill another employee to like move on to the next round.
And to me, it works because it's similar in like visual.
It's a little high paid, fast edit, you know, quick kill, lots of violence.
But it ups the violence more because it's all adults.
And so and then slightly worse.
I'll go with what was in theaters recently.
I I'll I just saw immaculate.
That was long and boring and the payoff was not good.
So mom and dad is definitely shorter than.
OK, so yeah, that's the bonus point.
But but immaculate does have
umbilical cord biting off in it.
So you do get that. That's awesome.
Sorry, spoiler. I apologize.
I should I shouldn't.
I don't think there's a huge overlap of people who listen to our show
and people who care about a spoiler for immaculate.
People who listen to our show and then actually watch movies.
Nobody watches the movies we talk about.
You'd be surprised.
Nathan does.
We do have a couple of friends, though, who don't listen to our podcasts
because they say they haven't watched the movie and they want to watch the movies
first. I'm like, you never go watch 60 for Nick Cage movies.
Not a fucking chance.
That's a lot.
Like, we don't even want to do that.
And we have we have done that.
We've watched more than that.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, this is going to be we'll have something like 70 episodes
by the time we're done with the bracket and some bonus episodes.
So, so yeah, we're in the thick of it for sure.
Do you have a prediction of what do you all have your favorite front runners
or what you think?
I mean, without giving too much away, I think I've got a couple of like top dogs
that I would be pretty satisfied to see make it all the way.
I don't think there's going to be one that I'm going to be like, fuck you.
Yeah, I've got maybe a top five, but I don't think there's some
like really strong ones in some of the categories.
I don't know. I feel like some categories just are better vehicles
for Nicholas Cage, for sure.
Romantic comedy is not the best for him.
Sure. Captain Crowley's mandolin all the way, baby.
Oh, yeah.
I enjoy that movie.
It's a good movie, but I just I cannot imagine that one making it.
It's fine if you're a fascist sympathizer.
We do live in America.
I just love Mondra's, that dumb fuck
getting shot in the ass by a cannon.
Yeah, that's pretty good. His best role.
It is probably his best role.
There's the butt stuff.
We found it on the matrix of good movie.
Good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.
Where would you put this movie and this Nicholas Cage performance?
I would say this is average for him.
I think he this is pretty Nicholas Cage, but he didn't go.
He had a few moments, you know, a few eye looks or things.
But I think he could have, as you were saying,
he could have even gone further with his crazy.
So I but it was it was an average good performance.
I think for me, I would put the movie as bad
and his performance as square in the middle mid
other than some of those like good snapshots of him,
him getting blown up in slow mo pretty fucking solid.
Good phase. Now, that's not an acting.
He's a better actor. He got blown up for real.
But like so, you know, a bad and a mid.
And I like this movie a lot.
Like I think it's fun and stupid and it's an easy short movie to watch.
Yes, could be shorter. Could be.
Or just faster. Just cut a little like move things along faster.
Yeah. Yeah, faster.
I enjoyed this movie a lot more than I thought I would on the rewatch.
Like all the problems I remember having with it.
I'm like, no, this is just dumb fun.
I it's not a good movie, but it's a fun movie.
So I put it on like I put on the leaning on the bad side of like fine.
As for Nick Cage, I think he does some good work in this.
I really like the crazy to like normal switch.
He does a few times.
And he has worked with this director before and with Spirit of On Johns and.
He gave exactly what I think he was supposed to give for this movie.
I think he did his job. Josh.
I think this is a bad movie and a bad take from Nicholas Cage
and that's not necessarily all his fault.
I think it's just Primal's fucking gold.
Primal, he had something to sink his teeth into.
I just don't feel like he had a like anything given to him
for like a script.
It's like, here's some dailies and we're just going to work through this
and just give us whatever you want.
I'm not going to bother directing you.
Nothing felt like, I don't know, strong about his performance.
Like it was just like, I'm going to read the line and I'm going to do something.
And that's how I'm going to collect my money today.
I don't think he cared about it.
And I could be completely wrong.
I'd be surprised if this is a role he cared about.
I watched some interviews from this one.
He likes the director.
He likes to interview.
And he likes to say positive things about the shows and movies.
He does. It's true, because he wants people to watch them.
Because that's how he gets paid.
It doesn't work for your career if you just dog shit.
Yeah. When you when you go out on a press tour and you start bagging on your job,
they will start wondering why they hired you.
Don't come watch this movie. It sucks.
I didn't even the Madame Web effect.
Hmm. Yeah.
So and yeah, I think this comes down to a movie
I wouldn't even recommend to somebody.
I would highly recommend this movie to people.
I would I would recommend.
This is why people don't talk to you, though.
No, there are a lot of reasons people don't talk to me.
It's high on the list. Mom and dad.
No, because people are always asking for like accessible horror to what I can.
It's not too gory.
It's not too scary.
And it's got a familiar face.
So, you know, you can be comfortable.
But yeah, I would push this movie.
That's fine. I mean, you're only a guest for one night. Great.
Well established that our guests have no power at all,
but we still want their opinion. Yes.
I mean, I can see why there would be an appeal for it.
It's not a movie for me.
Aside from a couple of scenes in it where I'm like, OK,
that would have been cooler if they fleshed it out.
It could have used a couple more dead kids.
Or it could have used like a bunch of old people breaking out at the end
and like a big like everybody like getting the pit, like, yes.
In the middle, old people versus baby boomers.
Fight. That would have been cool.
Yeah. Like once we've established that, like grandparents are fighting back.
Absolutely. Then you like. Yes.
Cut through because you don't want to spoil that.
That was a good reveal. Yeah.
It's just like the doors breaking down in an old folks home.
Yeah. Like they're Vietnam, like trauma.
Yeah, that would.
Siphalus because it's an old folks home.
Yeah, it is rampant. Old folks.
Fuck. That's how they kill you the slow way.
They just come back and have sex with you.
Hopefully not parents having sex with their kids.
I was going to say that takes a weirder angle with this movie.
Well, we got to stay kind of close to the the core concept.
Oh, I was really wondering,
would this be an awesome way to find out you were adopted? Oh, yeah.
That like you just come home and like have a nice dinner
with your no longer parents and or not so parents.
It's like, oh, shit.
You know how everybody else is like killing?
Like if you never if you didn't know you were adopted,
how conflicted would you be if like you got home, your parents
aren't trying to kill you?
Yeah, I feel like I'd be pretty happy about not being dead, but
I'd have some feelings. Yeah.
I would be terrible, though, because like if you survive
and you're just out in the world, there's someone out there
who desperately wants to kill you.
Mm hmm. If they can find you.
And they might not even know why. Yeah.
So if you don't have a public job like Weatherman,
you just see a picture of somebody.
Why do I want to kill that person?
Really want to fuck that guy up?
That's just normal weatherman feeling.
I mean, there are definitely people like that out there.
Yeah, true enough.
Any final thoughts on this one?
It's a romp.
A romp and a romp. Perfect. Mm hmm.
Mandy. Nice.
I like your new segues.
What's a segway?
Very clear.
I fucking love Mandy.
I'm just going to say that this movie is awesome.
It's terrific.
I actually know exactly what you were talking about.
And I watch it big screen
with like the the backlighting on the TV and all the lights off.
And oh, it's such a visual feast.
I fired up the volcano and I just got. Yeah.
Really into this movie.
Good.
And the scenes where like the cultist is like staring
and he's on drugs and I'm on drugs.
And we're just doing this together.
You're there. You're vibing.
He's fucking failing at a tuck and pose.
Just Buffalo Bill and all over my screen.
It's like nose shaped dick.
I just such a good movie.
I love the scene where he's like staring at you
and he's doing his little dance and the beams of the house
are like right behind his head to like be like beams
coming out of his life. Oh, yeah.
Just this movie is nice.
So well.
Yeah.
This movie will always remind me of like heavy metal.
Yeah, it's like a live action heavy metal.
Right down to like Mandy is kind of like a like a druid lady
and Nicolas Cage is a paladin who is out there like on his.
Making his act. Yeah.
So I'm glad you brought that up, because actually when I was
watching this, I was texting Sean because this movie like
it's grody to me.
Like I don't super love it.
I think it is a visual masterpiece, but I don't generally
love like the storyline, the grossness of it.
I was thinking like, fuck, I kind of wish this were like a really,
really intense animated movie, like something like that,
where you can just go fucking wild, take the same visual concepts,
but just like take it to that next level because of animation.
And that to me is kind of like where it hits the sweet spot for me.
This one, like watching Mandy's boring face, like pulsing in and out
for fucking an hour, like I'm not into it.
It just doesn't do it for me.
I love that slow build. I don't know why.
Yeah, nothing really happens.
You have to be in the right mind hour, but it just it goes and like.
I mean, things are happening. Yeah.
There's plot points hitting hard the whole time,
but he doesn't start killing people.
He doesn't fight back. Yeah.
The thing I noticed is, yeah, you have that hour
and then he goes gets the crossbow and the axe
and then you get the Mandy title card and then it's just him.
Yeah. Pick up.
And I'm like, you could start the movie here and it would still be amazing.
But I would have preferred that.
I love an hour of just the protagonist being just beaten down.
Oh, yeah. Physically and emotionally.
And like the audience is feeling shitty.
Yeah. And then it's like, finally, you get that moment of resistance
and fighting back and it's like, fuck, yeah, let's do this.
I'm here with you.
I'm not saying that's how you should do the movie.
I'm saying this could be a separate film and it still would. Sure.
Go hard. Yeah.
And I love to that even at that halfway mark, after he gets his weapons,
we feel like he's on his, you know, he's going to go fuck some people up.
He gets fucked up like immediately.
And it's like, OK, no, he's still not invincible.
Like still just a dude.
It's going to be a struggle. Yeah.
So and then he does all the drugs.
All of them.
He does set out on his crusade starting off by like slamming
half a bottle of vodka. That's true.
So it's no wonder that like his initial like endeavors fail.
Yeah. Man, I want some of that weird, like gross dark Vaseline.
The demon semen.
Give me some of that shit, man.
Like turns the world into a cartoon.
Yeah. Yeah. I want to fuck with that.
It gives you cool like Indiana Jones face melting skills. Right.
Have any of you watched Beyond the Black Rainbow?
No, I still need to see it.
I say that I'm going to about every three weeks and I still haven't done it.
I really want to watch it.
I watched the trailer for it and it was like right up against me
watching this movie and I was like, I'm not going to watch that right now.
Yeah, it's another like hugely visual. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I actually thought it was the same DP, but it's a different guy.
So that was kind of shocking.
This DP, though, also did dream scenario, which was kind of interesting.
Fun fact. Yeah.
We should watch Beyond the Black Rainbow at some point. Yeah.
And the core and the core.
Brian, have you seen the core?
I love the core.
The core fucking rules.
The core is so good.
I have to watch this movie.
Oh, you've never seen it.
I've never seen the core. Sean's never seen it.
Oh, you know the premise, though. Yeah.
Yes. OK, good.
I showed him the orange being sprayed on fire.
So he gets it.
That's all you need to know.
Oh, I was working at Hollywood video in Chanhassen, Minnesota
when that movie came out.
And so when it came, we could rent it.
I was just like, wow, this this is quite a premise.
And what a cast, though.
I mean, it's incredible.
You got the tooch. Yeah.
Got a little so, you know, it's going to be big.
Absolutely. Aaron Eckhart.
Everything he touches is gold.
Yeah. I think Hillary Swank thought she was going to get a third.
Probably. Oh, my God. Yeah.
That was just for us.
T.J. Qualls, everybody.
They got everybody.
All those.
Dude, I ran into T.J. Qualls recently.
Really? Yeah, he was.
Well, he was at a bar, I think, in Sherman Oaks
and doing like karaoke.
Cool. Fuck. Yeah.
He wasn't participating, but he was there with some friends and was like, oh, wow.
Yeah, I think he's great and everything.
Yeah. And T.J. Qualls is one of those celebrities that like,
you don't see that guy out and you're like, maybe that's T.J. Qualls. Right. No, no.
He's got a face.
He sure does. And he's tall, too, right?
Yes. Taller than me. Five eight.
So he's at least five, nine, five, ten.
Well, one thought I had watching this film,
Peter and I were kind of texting about it because Peter was like,
this isn't for me and I'm just on a fucking ride.
And I'm just like, all right, how can I describe
this film in a way that really like maybe it'll get it across?
The first thing is I love weird cosmic horror.
I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of gore unless it's like
evil, dead, hyperviolence.
It's where it goes from the point of like, I'm uncomfortable with.
The amount of blood.
You know, that looks too real to just like it's so stupidly over the top.
I'm like, that can never happen.
Yeah. And this movie rides more of the gross line for me, but I'm here for it.
And I think it's because it's starting to start to get into that weird.
Maybe demons, maybe, you know, looking past the veil
and him becoming like mad, which is just my jam for horror.
And the other thought I had was
this is kind of a weird dissection of like the slasher film.
Mm hmm. You have the hippies who are all into drugs and bad things
and they have to be punished and the monster is just one they created.
Yeah. And all the classics acts chainsaw crossbow chainsaw fights.
So good.
It felt to me like it was a giant Dungeons and Dragons campaign.
Oh, yeah. This is just people making this story up as they go.
And they're like, and then blood spewed everywhere, man.
And he chopped his guy's head off and he got in the car and there was flame.
And there was tigers.
And then like their faces melted.
Like, yeah, I think for me, violence, when it's merited,
I don't, you know, depending on what you're trying to get at, like saw to me,
I think the first one was important for the genre.
But now that we're on like 13 or 14 or whatever,
I think it's kind of jumped the shark and and even, you know, but like this,
it is over the top, but it feels within the world of the art that it's created.
Like, you know, it doesn't feel for me gratuitous.
It just feels that it's visually like, yes, you need to be covered in blood
so the red lights can bounce off of your red skin.
And we get this stunning visual and in the whites of your eyes pop.
So we really see that Nicholas Cage crazy.
Like that one look he does after he snaps the neck of the one drug dealer.
It's bug eyed. I was like, that is classic Nick Cage.
Yeah. Yeah.
How does the saw film have a shark trap yet?
A shark trap? Like, have they like have they done a shark in a saw film?
Have they jumped the shark actually?
Like is the way to get out of the danger to jump over a shark?
Yeah, I hope so. I don't think so.
I don't not yet. OK, I have this rock.
Yeah, I have to ask you about one of my favorite horror sequels.
And I don't. Yes. I don't watch a lot of horror movies.
I've seen it after I've said how many I watch.
I do. I know already what this is going to be.
So human centipede, too.
Oh, wow. I've seen the trilogy. Yes.
OK, I have not seen the third one, but you don't need to.
I didn't think I needed to after I watched the second one,
because it it truly had peaked at that point.
Oh, God. In like super meta and just like
the results seem obvious from the get go.
He's a security guard.
He stapled mouths to buttholes.
People are dying, obviously.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, what a great movie review.
It gives you what you want.
You've gotten a lot better at succinctly like breaking down a film.
But that ending that and like that's again another baby.
And like it that's fucked up.
Like that's to me. I was like too much, too much.
We really did. But in this, you know, in that universe, there isn't too much.
I guess, you know, it's actually now that I think about it,
I'm surprised number four hasn't randomly been like.
Tease that it's coming because it's been a while since three came out.
Yeah, the people need more human centipede.
Bigger, longer. It's pretty.
Oh, God. I mean, a pediar.
On some number two, actually, like I do like it as a sequel,
as in how do you do a follow up to the first one?
Like, I think it's an interesting meta storyline.
Involving the security guard,
which I think is, you know, pretty smart on his end.
But Tom, it was Tom Six.
Yeah, it just gets twisted from there.
Well, the human centipede movie gets twisted, guys.
Oh, God. You know what number three is about? I don't.
My succinct summary of it.
No, it's in a men's prison at a correctional facility.
Oh, yeah. And a warden decides to.
Put the practice.
I bet the scenes in the exercise yard were so good.
Oh, it's definitely the longest human centipede.
Oh, hell, yeah. The human.
Like, yeah, I think that's what actually I think that might be part of it.
I think he tried to get like 100.
I think that was a goal. OK, guys.
All right. Human centipede for apparently the mindset for this is just
my new job. So goodbye.
Hey, electrician.
Hello, centipede.
Even if it doesn't get made, as long as you sell it for real,
this is going to be a field of dreams.
If you build it, they will come.
So, guys, I'm glad you're here.
I brought some tape and a safe.
What are you doing now? Yeah.
You heard it here first.
One of our friends went to college with somebody who wrote like Sharknado
or like a lot of versus something and just like makes residuals off of that.
All the time. That's incredible.
That's the American dream.
Passing income like that. Absolutely.
Every once every once every year, you just get a check for like, right.
No reason. It's like, well, I did that.
And that's actually one thing I've learned since moving to L.A.
is just having to just be less precious about needing to actually write
anything to completion.
You can just sell a tornadoes with sharks.
I don't do anything to completion.
That's that's called edging.
You need to get elevator.
OK, you all know my beef with Sharknado.
I don't I don't recall your beef with Sharknado is it.
Tara Reed. Like so meteor, a lot.
Me meteor meteorologically sound college classes was call
was a bad science at the movies.
And it was just about that sounds cool.
We watched art school. I went to art college
where we watched.
We watched if you couldn't tell science fiction films.
And our teacher, who was like a geologist, would just pause the movie
and just rant at us about how none of the science made sense.
It was a hoot. Oh, you're going to fucking love the core.
I'm surprised we never watched the core.
Also, you know what?
We might have because we didn't actually watch the full movie.
She would just skip around to scenes to yell at us about the science.
But the final year was your college accredited.
Yes. How?
Art school, I can credit something.
Yeah. So our final project was to make to pitch our own bad science movie.
And New York had just had that hurricane and the city was flooded.
So I came up with Gator Kane.
Gator a movie about a hurricane hitting New York,
getting all the gators out and going to town two years later.
Sharknado is a thing.
I mean, you could probably still push Gator Kane.
You could sell that easy.
Not after this podcast, because someone else is going to do it
before my lazy ass does.
Yeah, it's Nick.
No, I'm balls deep in human centipede for.
I've been actually working of a script like a quick outline.
As I was talking. Yeah.
Man has podcast decides to centipede goes too far.
That's a good three act. Yeah.
That's what I was signing my NDA for.
Goes too far.
Goes too far. So with Mandy, like what's what's your favorite part from this movie?
Like each of you just go for it.
The chainsaw fights pretty bad ass.
Chainsaw fights really cool.
I just the whole thing is such just a visual treat and it just.
It turns into a cartoon at times.
Yeah, just all of it. Yeah.
That's what I mean. I meant literally a cartoon
and the animation looks very much like heavy metal.
Mm hmm. I think that's what really gets me is like the structure of it
is my favorite part. I know that's not like a scene.
Still a thing to like about a movie. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. The wall of color.
Yeah. Just constant like saturation.
I'm having a hard time picking one thing that I like about it
because I love all of it.
Yeah, I agree.
Why don't you prime us?
Give us yours and we'll steal it.
We'll edit you out and say this was my favorite part.
Good thing we have an individual track for you.
Oh, I think it's it's just so beautiful.
I mean, it just you do have to be in the right mindset.
Like if you're looking for something fast and fun and furious, it's not this.
Like you do have to settle into a world.
And again, like we were saying, I think it helps when you set your own atmosphere.
But once you're there, man, oh, my God, like it's like a it's
it's almost like you're on a psychedelic with them.
Yeah. And because it's just the visual is such a feast all the time.
And it's just and it just seems so classic of a story, you know,
bad people come in, kill your wife.
It's like Gladiator, but on like shrooms.
They want your wife. She laughs at their penis.
Yeah. Murder ensues.
I like they don't even just kill her.
They fucking burn her in a sleeping bag.
Yeah. And in front of him. Oh, I love how once she starts laughing
at him, his first reaction is just starting masturbating frantically.
So yes, that's OK.
Well, he's a grower, not a shower.
There's a couple of scenes that really stand out.
He was a shower.
I love Cheddar Goblin.
Cheddar, yes, Cheddar Goblin.
And I love the Jeremiah sound sand song.
It's so fucking mad and it's incredible.
Do do do do do do do do.
So your favorite parts are the comedy parts that take you out of the movie,
which is fine, because I think they're there to add a little bit of like
leavening to like give you an emotional break from.
Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's to remind you that it's like
all the violence that's about to come.
It's OK. Well, even beyond that, it's a real comedy.
There's there's like snapshots of violence that stand out, too.
It's like the dude, the fucking mouth breathing window rolling up and down.
Oh, my God. Taking the axe to the dome.
Like the visual of that is really like impressive.
Like I love that his death is just as funny as his life.
Like I love him just playing with the windows
and like the obvious irritation that Brother Swan has with it all.
And then like when he's dying, he's just like drying off his car after he washes it.
And then he gets like a non fight.
Yeah, it's just the axe comes out of the air and kills him.
And that's it. That's all inherited.
Yep. I love it. I love all of it. I can't.
Yeah, I think my favorite part might be the allowances
for the supernatural in this world. Yeah.
Yeah. Of the little demon ocarina.
I love the horn of a brexus.
Yeah. Ocarina of Grime.
Oh, all right. That's pretty good.
The cool little like dagger.
And I love that these supernatural like artifacts
have a cool strobing green light when you present them.
Yes. It's I mean, it's so like weird.
So much attention to detail.
Yeah. But it's like this is part of the world.
It's like, did you bring the horn of a brexus?
Oh, I did bring the horn of a brexus.
Also, I also love a galactic shout out shout out in anything.
Oh, yeah. So in the again, in the matrix of a good movie,
good cage, bad movie, bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.
Where do you slot Mandy and Nick Cage?
Good movie. Good.
Nicholas Cage. Great movie.
Even. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Like his performance in this is he doesn't say a lot,
but he does a lot with that.
Him chugging bathroom vodka in his tighty whitey's
and that awesome tiger shirt.
Yeah. His emotions are like out there.
I got permission to have a life size replica of the axe
to put above my Nicholas Cage blu ray collection.
So we're it's only three hundred dollars.
So oh, that's nothing.
I know. So I looked it up immediately.
Oh, my God. Yes. Get it. I support that.
Nick and I have discussed at the end of this getting
we have to get like commemorative tattoos from something
Nick Cage related, and I think I'm going to get the axe.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm still pushing the fake teeth from Vampire's Kiss.
That's a great one. That's also really good.
All right. So, Nick, what do you think?
I think this is an outstanding movie and a terrific performance.
I think everything that he brings
in lieu of like a vocal performance, like all of his just like
super on point reactions and emotions are just they blow me away.
Like the way he connected, like Panos must have done
just a terrific job communicating with Cage about what he wanted
the role to be because it just gets me.
It's terrific.
Even the scenes that are like purely Nicholas Cage, like in the car
when he's covered in gore and he's just like staring over.
And it's like, that's do you think it's the acid scene from?
I'm very away to massive talent is a little link to that.
The back and forth.
It's a very specific shot. I'd like to think it is.
I like, oh, just the camera shot. Yeah.
Yeah, I could see that.
I could see it also as like there's only so many ways
to film an interaction between two people in the front of a car.
That's fair. We've seen Drive Angry. Yeah.
OK, so I've turned the corner on this movie overall.
I do think that it is probably a great, great.
I do think that I don't like it.
There is fine. Yeah.
Like, I don't think it's for me, but I do respect it for the art of it,
for the insanity of it, for the performance of it.
How did you view it sitting alone in a chair in my living room
with the lights on on a laptop? So Peter made every choice.
I have watched it in a more cinematic way before.
The first time I watched it was a little more cinematic and it still didn't
tickle me. But you know, fair, fair.
That's a good point, though.
I mean, I think so part of the experience for me in this round
to that we're in, we're in 32 down to 16.
Watching it with people, watching movies with people
enhances my experience of it.
I think that I gain more from having that live interaction
of laughing at some absurdist shit in Mom and Dad or
marveling at a visual freeze frame from Mandy, you know, that it's
much more fun for me to watch it with someone.
So next time we'll provide a film party for you.
And that's a beautiful pitch for why we should go to the theaters.
I like to read Peter, if you were lonely, you can just tell us.
You don't have to like, oh, it took me 43 episodes to say it.
I'm lonely.
You know, to pretend you don't like good movies.
I don't know if I get this one, guys.
Can you just come over and like with me?
Yeah, you had your choice.
So you had a child. OK, so I am part of the sad lads.
I sort of asked and answered, but, you know, one movie
advances in our bracket ology style.
One movie must fall.
So Brian, as the guest, you get to go first, but your opinion doesn't matter.
So you can say whatever the fuck you want.
Well, I do think in this instance, I will probably
end up agreeing with the hosts and the producer.
I think it's Mandy that should move on.
But I'm glad to know that mom and dad made it this far
because it is definitely above the halfway mark of.
I would agree with that.
It's an opinion outside of like.
Adaptation, I can't think of outside of adaptation.
I can't think of anything that hasn't gone past the first round
that I would have like put this behind Primal.
No, Primal so good.
No, you're you're sleeping on Primal.
I think you watched it on the wrong day.
I watched it twice in both times.
I could not.
That was back when you were still drinking, though.
It's fair.
You got to watch it now when you can actually enjoy it.
I said I'd sit down and watch it with you.
I know it's going to be good.
I'm planning the whole event.
There's going to be like sparkling cider
and rose petals and a staple gun.
Yeah. And some duct tape.
Just bring your butthole.
Yeah, that's all you got to bring.
The prologue to human time.
Before.
So yeah, Mandy, I think I'm I'm full Mandy.
Yeah, I've got a full Mandy right now.
Well, Mandy.
Yeah, so next episode, we've got
Conair and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance
and special guest Chris Cofell of film school rejects.
So that'll be a fun one. Fun.
Yeah. Good times.
Brian, thank you for being here.
Yeah, this is really nice.
Have you? Yeah, this is great.
If you are interested in being on the slicks, teen,
which is the next part of the bracket, let us know.
Obviously, it only gets sexier from here.
Yes, I love it.
Oh, did we settle on final four?
Scum? Yeah. Yeah. OK.
And then I don't know what the championship is going to be.
And then just boring ass normal sex.
Missionary face to face, looking at each other and really feeling it.
Oh, God. Lights on.
It's going to be a weird blow job from Joe.
What's your favorite color? OK.
I gotta go.
Yeah, Brian, anything that you want to promote pitch.
Shout out.
I'm in this weird karaoke competition thing, but it's karaoke knockout.
I thought I was signing up for literally a one night type of thing.
Turns out it's a two month engagement.
And still just one paycheck.
Oh, yeah.
And you have to make it through all these rounds.
And it's basically a giant popularity contest.
But I've been very fortunate to have good friends and good supporters
have gotten me through what I believe will be this first major cut
through the group round.
I mean, we've gone to the semifinals, but all of the votes reset.
So but so what does it get me?
Ten thousand dollars.
If I make it all the way to the end, I sing in L.A.
for some karaoke.
And I will use that money to film a documentary in South Korea
with two of my friends who the three of us were Korean adoptees.
And coincidentally, this year's
karaoke competition is benefiting an adoption organization.
Help us adopt.org.
So it seems the universe is putting everything in alignment for me.
It also feels that this is my year of reality competition winning.
So I think.
It's just going to happen, you know, manifest that the secret.
So karaoke knockout dot org
or slash Brian hyphen Kim hyphen McCormick.
I think that's how you get to me.
I'm not sure.
Peter, if I didn't, I apologize.
But if you know, we'll figure it out.
Yes, thank you. I appreciate it.
But yeah, that's the pitch.
Just yeah, just realized Brian and I probably Brian
and I would have survived mom and dad.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
Oh, I would have definitely.
Unless Jackie Chan, this you might have to cut, but I don't know.
Jackie Chan is potentially my father.
So, you know, he I don't know that I'd want him trying to come
off after and try to kill me.
But hold on.
Is that something your mom told you like growing up?
Like Jackie Chan was your father?
A long story made short.
Take as much time as you want on this.
Oh, great.
Well, I I I was a Korean adoptee.
I came out of Seoul.
I came here at three months old and my whole life.
I just associated being Korean.
But many, many, many people have said that I look like Jackie Chan,
including white, Asian, all people.
I've been chased down streets.
I've been chased at casinos.
I've been asked for autographs.
I've been asked to take pictures.
It's just been there my whole life.
And then I was working as an accountant in New York
as one of my survival jobs.
And in that pool was a Chinese woman who told me that Jackie Chan
had been like in love with the South Korean woman for like almost a decade.
But felt like he couldn't marry her because he wasn't.
You know, they were living in two different countries.
He was poor. He wasn't famous yet.
So and it was like right around the same time that I was magically born.
And then so he wrote a memoir and he
I was going to wait for his autograph at the Barnes and Noble in Union Square.
And I was going to grab his water bottle and I was going to run out the store.
Problem is with that store, though, is this book signing is up on like the third floor
and the only way to do it is escalators.
You got to Jackie Chan your way out of. Yeah, Jackie.
I would have jacked my way out of it.
So the problem is, then you got Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan and after you.
Oh, yeah. God, right.
And then you got him coming.
But he ended up canceling his session because I believe his wife
found out about all of the women he slept with through the memoir.
I don't think he privy to that.
At least that's what my brain reminds me.
Who am I forgetting to tell about all the illicit affairs?
Well, it didn't have to be affairs.
I mean, it could have been before. Right.
Before marriage. That's true. That's true.
Who marries like an international film star and says
he probably kept it in his pants.
But and then I did a DNA test and it came back that I have
like 40 something Korean, 30 something Chinese.
And the rest is Japanese.
You hear that, Jackie Chan? Right. It's possible.
But so, yeah, that's the story about my potentially famous.
I fucking love that. That is a terrific story.
That was better than my
lazy attempt at making another dead parent joke. Yeah.
So thank you for that.
Yeah, you can. You're welcome.
You can beat that dead horse the day you die.
Terrible.
That's a good episode.
I enjoyed myself.
Well, I will definitely vote for you so long as you do not sing sweet Caroline.
The moment you sing sweet Caroline, votes are out the door.
Great. I will not. Thank you.
So no worries on that.
I will only vote for you if you sing sweet Caroline.
So it's a net neutral. You still got my vote.
OK, thank you. There we go. Plus one.
There we go. All right.
Well, thank you all for listening, Brian.
Thank you for being here.
Thanks for having me.
You guys can find us on social media.
Cage match pod cage underscore match underscore pod.
You'll find us one way or the other.
You can. Has Nick found you yet?
He's right here. No.
Nick, the Nicholas.
Oh, sorry. Yeah.
He's got better things to do.
No, he he doesn't seem to really do a lot of interaction with online
with his anything like brand.
That's unfortunate. It is.
It's kind of too bad.
I mean, it'd be really fun to be able to play into that.
No, we're just going to continue trying to stalk him through bars
and stuff we know he goes to.
Yeah, exactly.
We're going to find him. Yeah.
I believe in you.
Yeah. If you want to help fuel our Nick Cage meeting adventures,
we are on Patreon at Cage match.
Thank you to our current supporters,
Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam and our cage dancers,
Ira, John Freeman, Lance and Nathan.
We really appreciate you guys.
And we do have a signal chat now for the cage dancers.
We got to just move to this part.
Everybody discards. We should discord.
We'll discord discord.
I do want to just also keep this kind of meta narrative going
where last time I shouted out Nathan for joining that exclusive club
of friends who text me things I say on my own podcast.
And this week I get a text from Nathan.
Sean, Nathan has joined the exclusive club of someone
who randomly messaged me quotes from our podcast.
So, yeah, double dip on that one, Nathan.
Love you, buddy. Bye bye.
Oh, my.
Good Galactus work.
I love Galactus big war guy.
Yeah, actually.
Who were you describing?
Were you describing for John? Yeah.
OK. Yeah. Last episode, we were trying to explain for to everyone.
Brian, are you familiar with war?
Uh, people being eaten.
Yeah. But eaten whole is the big part of it.
Eating whole. Oh, I didn't know there was that specification.
Which makes it entirely impossible. So. Yeah.
It's a really dumb fetish.
That's going to be the twist at the end of Human Centipede four.
The ass eats everybody else. Human Centipede four.
The most ass eating you can legally put in a rated NC 17 movie.
I think they're going to draw a line with how much ass eating I put in this movie.
You're going to have to have debates with them and they're like,
take one ass eating out. Just one.
You're like, no, it's my art.
I can't do it.
Each and every one of them is important to my story.
That's right.
This is my lived experience.
You are a millennial.
You will not silence me.